Rachel Faulkner Brown - Growing Through Grief

August 26, 2025 | S25 E214 | 29:14

The author of “Widow’s Might” reveals the source of comfort and hope through the loss of two husbands at an early age.

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Life Today with James Robison | Rachel Faulkner Brown - Growing Through Grief | August 26, 2025
  • Widowed at an early age, rachel experienced
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  • A roller coaster of emotions
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  • Never dreaming it could happen again.
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  • >> i thought i've got the card.
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  • I mean, i've got the suffering card, right?
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  • I think for me, i was like, well, i'm going to get
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  • The pass for the rest of my life,
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  • And that is not the gospel.
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  • "in this world, you will have trouble."
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  • I think for me, i just thought,
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  • I've already had my trouble, i won't have any more.
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  • >> right. surely god won't give me
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  • Something like that again.
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  • Tammy: hello, everybody.
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  • Tammy: hello, everybody. welcome to life today.
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  • Tammy: hello, everybody. welcome to life today. i'm tammy trent, and
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  • Welcome to life today. i'm tammy trent, and i'm so glad you're here.
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  • I'm tammy trent, and i'm so glad you're here. it's going to be a great day.
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  • I'm so glad you're here. it's going to be a great day. but, you know, maybe today
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  • It's going to be a great day. but, you know, maybe today you're holding something
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  • But, you know, maybe today you're holding something heavy.
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  • You're holding something heavy. maybe you've been hit by loss
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  • That took your breath away.
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  • That took your breath away. or you love someone
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  • That took your breath away. or you love someone who's walking through
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  • Or you love someone who's walking through the deep ache of grief.
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  • Who's walking through the deep ache of grief. you're showing up.
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  • The deep ache of grief. you're showing up. you're doing your best
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  • You're showing up. you're doing your best to keep going.
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  • You're doing your best to keep going. but underneath it all,
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  • To keep going. but underneath it all, you wonder how healing
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  • But underneath it all, you wonder how healing could ever reach this deep.
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  • You wonder how healing could ever reach this deep. that's where you are.
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  • Could ever reach this deep. that's where you are. i want to remind you
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  • That's where you are. i want to remind you that jesus sees you.
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  • I want to remind you that jesus sees you. he sees the tears
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  • That jesus sees you. he sees the tears you've carried in the quiet.
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  • He sees the tears you've carried in the quiet. the moment you said, i can't
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  • You've carried in the quiet. the moment you said, i can't believe this is my life.
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  • The moment you said, i can't believe this is my life. and the prayers
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  • Believe this is my life. and the prayers you've whispered
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  • And the prayers you've whispered with no words left.
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  • You've whispered with no words left. he's not just near,
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  • With no words left. he's not just near, he's working even in
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  • He's not just near, he's working even in the waiting, even when
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  • He's working even in the waiting, even when it doesn't make sense.
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  • The waiting, even when it doesn't make sense. because grief touches
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  • It doesn't make sense. because grief touches all of us eventually.
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  • Because grief touches all of us eventually. and today's conversation
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  • All of us eventually. and today's conversation is for anyone who has ever
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  • And today's conversation is for anyone who has ever loved deeply and lost,
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  • Is for anyone who has ever loved deeply and lost, or longed to know how to
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  • Loved deeply and lost, or longed to know how to show up for someone who has.
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  • Or longed to know how to show up for someone who has. it's about faith
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  • Show up for someone who has. it's about faith in the sorrow,
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  • It's about faith in the sorrow, strength in the unknown,
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  • In the sorrow, strength in the unknown, and the beauty of being met
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  • Strength in the unknown, and the beauty of being met by a god who restores.
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  • And the beauty of being met by a god who restores. rachel falkner brown
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  • By a god who restores. rachel falkner brown is my guest today.
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  • Rachel falkner brown is my guest today. she's someone who has lived
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  • Is my guest today. she's someone who has lived through the unimaginable
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  • She's someone who has lived through the unimaginable not just once but twice.
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  • Through the unimaginable not just once but twice. she's here to share from
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  • Not just once but twice. she's here to share from her heart in her brand-new
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  • She's here to share from her heart in her brand-new devotional, widow's might .
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  • Her heart in her brand-new devotional, widow's might . so whether you're a widow
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  • Devotional, widow's might . so whether you're a widow or someone simply looking
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  • So whether you're a widow or someone simply looking for strength in a hard season,
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  • Or someone simply looking for strength in a hard season, i believe this message
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  • For strength in a hard season, i believe this message is going to bring comfort,
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  • I believe this message is going to bring comfort, connection, and real hope
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  • Is going to bring comfort, connection, and real hope for your journey.
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  • Connection, and real hope for your journey. so welcome, rachel faulkner
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  • For your journey. so welcome, rachel faulkner brown, all the names.
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  • So welcome, rachel faulkner brown, all the names. i've got them all in there.
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  • Brown, all the names. i've got them all in there. i'm so glad you're here.
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  • I've got them all in there. i'm so glad you're here. rachel: oh, my gosh,
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  • I'm so glad you're here. rachel: oh, my gosh, it's such an honor!
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  • Rachel: oh, my gosh, it's such an honor! truly! truly!
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  • It's such an honor! truly! truly! tammy: i've known your name
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  • Truly! truly! tammy: i've known your name for a long time.
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  • Tammy: i've known your name for a long time. we talked about that earlier,
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  • For a long time. we talked about that earlier, kind of running in
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  • But, the first question
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  • But, the first question out of the box for me,
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  • Out of the box for me, or the first statement
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  • Or the first statement i should say is,
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  • I should say is, is the realization that
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  • We both became widowed
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  • We both became widowed within five, six days
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  • We both became widowed within five, six days of each other in 2001.
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  • Within five, six days of each other in 2001. so we have walked out
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  • Of each other in 2001. so we have walked out a journey that many have
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  • So we have walked out a journey that many have walked out, that gosh,
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  • A journey that many have walked out, that gosh, rachel, through the years
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  • Walked out, that gosh, rachel, through the years of my own loss, i've gotten
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  • Rachel, through the years of my own loss, i've gotten hundreds of emails
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  • Of my own loss, i've gotten hundreds of emails as i've talked and spoken
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  • Hundreds of emails as i've talked and spoken at women's conferences,
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  • As i've talked and spoken at women's conferences, done the interviews,
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  • At women's conferences, done the interviews, done the books, whatever,
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  • Done the interviews, done the books, whatever, i'll get tons of emails
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  • Done the books, whatever, i'll get tons of emails from people that will say,
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  • I'll get tons of emails from people that will say, i saw you speak at
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  • From people that will say, i saw you speak at women of faith 15 years ago,
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  • I saw you speak at women of faith 15 years ago, and i just lost my husband
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  • Women of faith 15 years ago, and i just lost my husband but it took me back
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  • And i just lost my husband but it took me back to that conversation.
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  • But it took me back to that conversation. so i hope that today
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  • To that conversation. so i hope that today will be the same.
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  • So i hope that today will be the same. that it's not a setup
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  • Will be the same. that it's not a setup for loss, but i think
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  • That it's not a setup for loss, but i think giving people tools
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  • For loss, but i think giving people tools and the understanding,
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  • Giving people tools and the understanding, or someone that's walking
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  • And the understanding, or someone that's walking through it right now
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  • Or someone that's walking through it right now that feels really stuck
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  • Through it right now that feels really stuck and hopeless.
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  • Your story started.
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  • Your story started. rachel: well, in 2001,
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  • Rachel: well, in 2001, where you and i both were,
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  • Where you and i both were, i mean, it was just
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  • We had been
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  • We had been college sweethearts.
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  • We had been college sweethearts. todd and i had been together
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  • College sweethearts. todd and i had been together almost eight years,
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  • Todd and i had been together almost eight years, and he went to play a game
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  • Almost eight years, and he went to play a game of pickup basketball
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  • And he went to play a game of pickup basketball after church.
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  • Of pickup basketball after church. we truly like that day,
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  • After church. we truly like that day, we had gone to eat barbecue,
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  • We truly like that day, we had gone to eat barbecue, we had started talking
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  • We had gone to eat barbecue, we had started talking about having our family, and,
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  • We had started talking about having our family, and, you know, three hours later,
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  • About having our family, and, you know, three hours later, i get the phone call
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  • You know, three hours later, i get the phone call from a friend and she says,
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  • I get the phone call from a friend and she says, rachel, todd's been hurt.
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  • From a friend and she says, rachel, todd's been hurt. and i'm like, okay,
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  • Rachel, todd's been hurt. and i'm like, okay, i'll be right there.
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  • And i'm like, okay, i'll be right there. he probably twisted his ankle.
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  • I'll be right there. he probably twisted his ankle. you know, he was playing
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  • He probably twisted his ankle. you know, he was playing basketball, normal stuff.
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  • You know, he was playing basketball, normal stuff. and i get there and,
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  • Basketball, normal stuff. and i get there and, you know, our doctor friend
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  • And i get there and, you know, our doctor friend who was there was doing cpr
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  • You know, our doctor friend who was there was doing cpr and i was like, this is not
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  • Who was there was doing cpr and i was like, this is not -- this is not a broken ankle.
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  • And i was like, this is not -- this is not a broken ankle. this is not, you know,
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  • -- this is not a broken ankle. this is not, you know, anything like that.
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  • This is not, you know, anything like that. and i went to the e.r.,
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  • Anything like that. and i went to the e.r., tammy, and, like --
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  • And i went to the e.r., tammy, and, like -- we drove down there
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  • Tammy, and, like -- we drove down there and there he was.
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  • We drove down there and there he was. i went back and they came in
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  • And there he was. i went back and they came in and said, "mrs. foust,
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  • I went back and they came in and said, "mrs. foust, we did everything we could."
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  • And said, "mrs. foust, we did everything we could." and i thought,
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  • We did everything we could." and i thought, i heard that on shows.
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  • And i thought, i heard that on shows. not like this isn't
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  • I heard that on shows. not like this isn't happening to me.
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  • Not like this isn't happening to me. 27-year-old picture-of-health
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  • Happening to me. 27-year-old picture-of-health men do not die.
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  • 27-year-old picture-of-health men do not die. so this was just so shocking
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  • Men do not die. so this was just so shocking because of who todd was
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  • So this was just so shocking because of who todd was and because, you know,
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  • Because of who todd was and because, you know, we were planning our future
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  • And because, you know, we were planning our future that morning.
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  • We were planning our future that morning. so i think the shock of loss,
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  • That morning. so i think the shock of loss, the way both of us lost,
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  • So i think the shock of loss, the way both of us lost, it makes it --
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  • The way both of us lost, it makes it -- it's so discombobulating.
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  • Out of nowhere, i think,
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  • Out of nowhere, i think, you've often said like,
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  • You've often said like, i don't know which is worse,
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  • I don't know which is worse, which is better, but
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  • Which is better, but there's something that happens
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  • There's something that happens when it happens like that.
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  • When it happens like that. i didn't get to say goodbye
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  • I didn't get to say goodbye to trent.
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  • For a dive, and i thought,
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  • For a dive, and i thought, he'll be back in 15 minutes,
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  • For a dive, and i thought, he'll be back in 15 minutes, and he never came back.
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  • He'll be back in 15 minutes, and he never came back. like i didn't get
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  • And he never came back. like i didn't get to say goodbye.
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  • Like i didn't get to say goodbye. it's just gone. it's final.
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  • To say goodbye. it's just gone. it's final. it's done with.
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  • It's just gone. it's final. it's done with. and then becomes the healing.
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  • It's done with. and then becomes the healing. so you got that news.
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  • And then becomes the healing. so you got that news. so what did you do?
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  • So you got that news. so what did you do? how did the healing begin
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  • So what did you do? how did the healing begin for you?
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  • How did the healing begin for you? rachel: yeah, it's so --
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  • For you? rachel: yeah, it's so -- i didn't know
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  • Rachel: yeah, it's so -- i didn't know what i was doing.
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  • I didn't know what i was doing. i did what i knew to do,
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  • What i was doing. i did what i knew to do, and that was really worship.
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  • I did what i knew to do, and that was really worship. and i would sit in my floor
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  • And that was really worship. and i would sit in my floor and i would listen
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  • And i would sit in my floor and i would listen to fernando ortega's
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  • And i would listen to fernando ortega's "give me jesus."
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  • To fernando ortega's "give me jesus." i don't know if you remember
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  • "give me jesus." i don't know if you remember that song.
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  • I don't know if you remember that song. so anne graham lotz had
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  • That song. so anne graham lotz had the book, give me jesus.
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  • So anne graham lotz had the book, give me jesus. in the back it had a cd
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  • The book, give me jesus. in the back it had a cd and she did like a spoken word
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  • In the back it had a cd and she did like a spoken word and fernando would sing,
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  • And she did like a spoken word and fernando would sing, and i would wail.
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  • And fernando would sing, and i would wail. i would wail in my room
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  • And i would wail. i would wail in my room just listening to that cd.
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  • I would wail in my room just listening to that cd. i would sing at
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  • Just listening to that cd. i would sing at the top of my lungs.
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  • I would sing at the top of my lungs. i would command my soul
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  • The top of my lungs. i would command my soul because i knew it was the
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  • I would command my soul because i knew it was the only place i felt better.
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  • Because i knew it was the only place i felt better. nobody was going to therapy.
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  • Only place i felt better. nobody was going to therapy. i don't know about you,
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  • Nobody was going to therapy. i don't know about you, but i mean, i didn't go
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  • I don't know about you, but i mean, i didn't go to therapy for 11 years.
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  • But i mean, i didn't go to therapy for 11 years. i was just -- i woke up
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  • To therapy for 11 years. i was just -- i woke up kind of fine, i didn't really
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  • I was just -- i woke up kind of fine, i didn't really struggle with depression.
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  • Kind of fine, i didn't really struggle with depression. but for me, i knew that
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  • Struggle with depression. but for me, i knew that was the only place
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  • But for me, i knew that was the only place that felt safe.
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  • Was the only place that felt safe. tammy: has it always been
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  • That felt safe. tammy: has it always been a safe place for you?
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  • Tammy: has it always been a safe place for you? you were always like, were
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  • A safe place for you? you were always like, were you quick to go to worship?
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  • You were always like, were you quick to go to worship? rachel: absolutely!
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  • You quick to go to worship? rachel: absolutely! i think for me, you're either
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  • Rachel: absolutely! i think for me, you're either a word person
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  • I think for me, you're either a word person or you're a worship person
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  • A word person or you're a worship person a lot of times,
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  • Or you're a worship person a lot of times, and i was a worship person.
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  • A lot of times, and i was a worship person. i mean, i'm both, but
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  • And i was a worship person. i mean, i'm both, but my number one is in the dark,
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  • I mean, i'm both, but my number one is in the dark, that's what i do.
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  • My number one is in the dark, that's what i do. i had a song after blair died.
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  • That's what i do. i had a song after blair died. i had a song after todd died.
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  • I had a song after blair died. i had a song after todd died. it was just, i think for me,
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  • I had a song after todd died. it was just, i think for me, it was so comforting.
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  • It was just, i think for me, it was so comforting. worship is comfort.
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  • It was so comforting. worship is comfort. tammy: so you just said
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  • Worship is comfort. tammy: so you just said something there.
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  • Tammy: so you just said something there. you said after blair died.
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  • Something there. you said after blair died. so we just talked about todd.
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  • You said after blair died. so we just talked about todd. so now you're saying
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  • So we just talked about todd. so now you're saying this happened a second time?
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  • So now you're saying this happened a second time? can you transition in from
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  • This happened a second time? can you transition in from as you are healing from todd,
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  • Can you transition in from as you are healing from todd, as a young, in your mid-20s,
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  • As you are healing from todd, as a young, in your mid-20s, you meet another love,
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  • As a young, in your mid-20s, you meet another love, get married and think
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  • You meet another love, get married and think this can't happen twice.
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  • Get married and think this can't happen twice. i'm sure --
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  • This can't happen twice. i'm sure -- rachel: i said it out loud.
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  • I'm sure -- rachel: i said it out loud. tammy: so were you ever
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  • Rachel: i said it out loud. tammy: so were you ever fearful of like
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  • Tammy: so were you ever fearful of like it could happen again?
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  • Fearful of like it could happen again? or now i'm afraid of death?
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  • It could happen again? or now i'm afraid of death? did you ever have to deal
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  • Or now i'm afraid of death? did you ever have to deal with fear because of
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  • Did you ever have to deal with fear because of your first loss?
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  • I thought i've got the card.
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  • I thought i've got the card. i mean, i have got
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  • I mean, i have got the suffering card, right?
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  • The suffering card, right? i mean, i have done
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  • I mean, i have done the hardest thing.
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  • The hardest thing. the number one stressor
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  • And i was like, jesus,
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  • And i was like, jesus, i have paid the price.
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  • And i was like, jesus, i have paid the price. i think for me, i was like,
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  • I have paid the price. i think for me, i was like, well, i'm gonna get the pass
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  • I think for me, i was like, well, i'm gonna get the pass for the rest of my life.
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  • Well, i'm gonna get the pass for the rest of my life. and that is not the gospel.
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  • For the rest of my life. and that is not the gospel. in this world
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  • And that is not the gospel. in this world you will have trouble.
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  • In this world you will have trouble. and i think for me, i just
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  • You will have trouble. and i think for me, i just thought, i've already
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  • And i think for me, i just thought, i've already had my trouble.
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  • Thought, i've already had my trouble. i won't have any more.
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  • Had my trouble. i won't have any more. tammy: surely, god won't
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  • I won't have any more. tammy: surely, god won't give me something
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  • Tammy: surely, god won't give me something like that again.
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  • Give me something like that again. rachel: oh, yeah!
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  • Like that again. rachel: oh, yeah! i think at the end of
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  • Rachel: oh, yeah! i think at the end of the day, i knew whatever came
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  • I think at the end of the day, i knew whatever came my way, i could handle it.
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  • The day, i knew whatever came my way, i could handle it. but i've already done
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  • My way, i could handle it. but i've already done the worst thing, so that
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  • But i've already done the worst thing, so that will never happen again.
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  • The worst thing, so that will never happen again. and joked with blair that
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  • Will never happen again. and joked with blair that that would never happen.
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  • And joked with blair that that would never happen. tammy: yes! well, okay.
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  • That would never happen. tammy: yes! well, okay. so tell me about that.
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  • Tammy: yes! well, okay. so tell me about that. what happened?
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  • So tell me about that. what happened? like how long in-between
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  • What happened? like how long in-between from your first loss
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  • Like how long in-between from your first loss did you have to walk that out
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  • From your first loss did you have to walk that out by yourself?
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  • Did you have to walk that out by yourself? how many years?
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  • By yourself? how many years? rachel: yes, it was
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  • How many years? rachel: yes, it was two years in-between.
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  • Rachel: yes, it was two years in-between. i was 23,
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  • Two years in-between. i was 23, and i remarried again at 25.
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  • I was 23, and i remarried again at 25. i was still just --
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  • And i remarried again at 25. i was still just -- most people hadn't even
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  • I was still just -- most people hadn't even married the first time
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  • Most people hadn't even married the first time by the time i got married
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  • Married the first time by the time i got married the second time.
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  • By the time i got married the second time. blair was ten years older,
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  • The second time. blair was ten years older, so he was 35.
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  • Blair was ten years older, so he was 35. loved the lord.
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  • So he was 35. loved the lord. was a fighter pilot
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  • Loved the lord. was a fighter pilot in the air force.
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  • Was a fighter pilot in the air force. he wore a flight suit.
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  • In the air force. he wore a flight suit. i mean, come on!
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  • He wore a flight suit. i mean, come on! tammy: dreamy -- top gun!
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  • I mean, come on! tammy: dreamy -- top gun! rachel: i can't say that
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  • Tammy: dreamy -- top gun! rachel: i can't say that didn't have a big part in it.
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  • Rachel: i can't say that didn't have a big part in it. he really loved the lord,
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  • Didn't have a big part in it. he really loved the lord, and i was just like,
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  • He really loved the lord, and i was just like, you need a wife.
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  • And i was just like, you need a wife. his in-laws were friends
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  • You need a wife. his in-laws were friends with my in-laws.
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  • His in-laws were friends with my in-laws. it was really perfect.
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  • With my in-laws. it was really perfect. it was kind of meant to be.
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  • It was really perfect. it was kind of meant to be. and so, we married and
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  • It was kind of meant to be. and so, we married and had just a beautiful life.
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  • And so, we married and had just a beautiful life. lived in new orleans.
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  • Had just a beautiful life. lived in new orleans. he flew the a-10, which
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  • Lived in new orleans. he flew the a-10, which is the really dangerous jet,
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  • He flew the a-10, which is the really dangerous jet, and he loved it, and i was
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  • Is the really dangerous jet, and he loved it, and i was selling pharmaceuticals.
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  • And he loved it, and i was selling pharmaceuticals. and we were living
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  • Selling pharmaceuticals. and we were living our best life just thinking,
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  • And we were living our best life just thinking, serving in our church and
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  • Our best life just thinking, serving in our church and planning our family, again.
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  • Serving in our church and planning our family, again. i missed out on that
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  • Planning our family, again. i missed out on that the first time so i was
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  • I missed out on that the first time so i was like, all right, let's go.
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  • The first time so i was like, all right, let's go. tammy: okay.
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  • Like, all right, let's go. tammy: okay. so you had children
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  • Tammy: okay. so you had children with blair?
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  • So you had children with blair? rachel: yeah. two.
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  • With blair? rachel: yeah. two. two children.
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  • Rachel: yeah. two. two children. he came home from afghanistan.
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  • Two children. he came home from afghanistan. we had our first baby, and
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  • He came home from afghanistan. we had our first baby, and then our second little girl,
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  • We had our first baby, and then our second little girl, we got blown out
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  • Then our second little girl, we got blown out by hurricane katrina
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  • We got blown out by hurricane katrina and we ended up
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  • By hurricane katrina and we ended up in columbus, mississippi.
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  • So tell me spiritually,
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  • So tell me spiritually, where were you?
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  • Where were you? where were you and blair,
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  • Where were you and blair, maybe even
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  • Before he went to heaven.
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  • Before he went to heaven. where were you?
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  • Before he went to heaven. where were you? were you in a good spot?
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  • Where were you? were you in a good spot? were you in a great place
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  • Were you in a good spot? were you in a great place together?
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  • Were you in a great place together? like, what did life
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  • Together? like, what did life really look like for you?
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  • Like, what did life really look like for you? you're carrying
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  • Really look like for you? you're carrying the loss of one.
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  • You're carrying the loss of one. did you feel like
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  • The loss of one. did you feel like you were totally over that?
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  • Did you feel like you were totally over that? and todd moving into --
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  • You were totally over that? and todd moving into -- what? what was that?
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  • And todd moving into -- what? what was that? paint a picture for us.
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  • What? what was that? paint a picture for us. rachel: well, the answer
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  • Paint a picture for us. rachel: well, the answer is yes and no.
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  • Rachel: well, the answer is yes and no. so spiritually for me
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  • Is yes and no. so spiritually for me personally, in november
  • 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:46.676
  • So spiritually for me personally, in november of 2007, i had this
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  • Personally, in november of 2007, i had this really interesting encounter
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  • Of 2007, i had this really interesting encounter in my car.
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  • Really interesting encounter in my car. i was in columbus,
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  • In my car. i was in columbus, mississippi, and i felt
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  • I was in columbus, mississippi, and i felt like the lord called my name.
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  • Mississippi, and i felt like the lord called my name. he invited me into
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  • Like the lord called my name. he invited me into this relationship that --
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  • He invited me into this relationship that -- the only way i could
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  • This relationship that -- the only way i could describe it was he was
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  • The only way i could describe it was he was inviting me to be --
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  • Describe it was he was inviting me to be -- he wanted to be my husband,
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  • Inviting me to be -- he wanted to be my husband, which is so freaky.
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  • He wanted to be my husband, which is so freaky. i was like, okay, how do you
  • 00:10:04.627 --> 00:10:06.228
  • Which is so freaky. i was like, okay, how do you explain that to someone?
  • 00:10:06.295 --> 00:10:07.730
  • I was like, okay, how do you explain that to someone? but it was like, i want
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  • Explain that to someone? but it was like, i want something more with you
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  • But it was like, i want something more with you than we have right now.
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  • Something more with you than we have right now. i called a friend.
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  • Than we have right now. i called a friend. i called my friend tina,
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  • I called a friend. i called my friend tina, and i said, "this just
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  • I called my friend tina, and i said, "this just happened in my car."
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  • And i said, "this just happened in my car." i didn't know anything
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  • Happened in my car." i didn't know anything about the manifest presence.
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  • I didn't know anything about the manifest presence. i didn't know people who
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  • About the manifest presence. i didn't know people who had encounters with god.
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  • I didn't know people who had encounters with god. i didn't know that language.
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  • Had encounters with god. i didn't know that language. and so i'm like, how do i put
  • 00:10:23.179 --> 00:10:25.181
  • I didn't know that language. and so i'm like, how do i put words around this thing
  • 00:10:25.247 --> 00:10:26.816
  • And so i'm like, how do i put words around this thing that just happened to me?
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  • Words around this thing that just happened to me? because i feel like
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  • That just happened to me? because i feel like god's like inviting me.
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  • Because i feel like god's like inviting me. this was november 2007.
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  • God's like inviting me. this was november 2007. blair goes, he ends up
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  • This was november 2007. blair goes, he ends up meeting with this mentor,
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  • Blair goes, he ends up meeting with this mentor, and that mentor says,
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  • Meeting with this mentor, and that mentor says, i will meet with you
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  • And that mentor says, i will meet with you if you read the hebrews
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  • I will meet with you if you read the hebrews hall of faith in hebrews.
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  • If you read the hebrews hall of faith in hebrews. and if you say, yes,
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  • Hall of faith in hebrews. and if you say, yes, that i will -- i will even
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  • And if you say, yes, that i will -- i will even surrender my job as a pilot
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  • That i will -- i will even surrender my job as a pilot for the cause of the gospel.
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  • Surrender my job as a pilot for the cause of the gospel. and blair came home
  • 00:10:45.935 --> 00:10:46.936
  • For the cause of the gospel. and blair came home and he said, "hey, rachel.
  • 00:10:47.002 --> 00:10:48.003
  • And blair came home and he said, "hey, rachel. this is what this mentor said.
  • 00:10:48.070 --> 00:10:49.238
  • And he said, "hey, rachel. this is what this mentor said. i won't meet with you
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  • This is what this mentor said. i won't meet with you unless that happens.
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  • I won't meet with you unless that happens. and i've got to
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  • Unless that happens. and i've got to really think about it."
  • 00:10:52.508 --> 00:10:53.509
  • And i've got to really think about it." and i'm like, well,
  • 00:10:53.576 --> 00:10:54.577
  • Really think about it." and i'm like, well, that's our insurance,
  • 00:10:54.643 --> 00:10:55.644
  • And i'm like, well, that's our insurance, that's your livelihood.
  • 00:10:55.711 --> 00:10:56.712
  • That's our insurance, that's your livelihood. i'm like the naysayer.
  • 00:10:56.779 --> 00:10:57.780
  • That's your livelihood. i'm like the naysayer. i'm like, oh, come on,
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  • I'm like the naysayer. i'm like, oh, come on, jesus isn't asking us
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  • I'm like, oh, come on, jesus isn't asking us to give up the pilot job.
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  • Jesus isn't asking us to give up the pilot job. and at the end of the day,
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  • To give up the pilot job. and at the end of the day, blair's like, i'm going
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  • And at the end of the day, blair's like, i'm going to meet with him.
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  • Blair's like, i'm going to meet with him. and he died a week later.
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  • To meet with him. and he died a week later. tammy: he died a week later.
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  • And he died a week later. tammy: he died a week later. so the surrender happened
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  • Tammy: he died a week later. so the surrender happened in his life,
  • 00:11:09.091 --> 00:11:10.092
  • So the surrender happened in his life, you're saying a week later.
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  • In his life, you're saying a week later. he's like, i surrender all.
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  • You're saying a week later. he's like, i surrender all. i give my whole life,
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  • He's like, i surrender all. i give my whole life, everything i have to jesus.
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  • I give my whole life, everything i have to jesus. whatever he wants is his.
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  • Everything i have to jesus. whatever he wants is his. i surrender it all.
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  • Whatever he wants is his. i surrender it all. and one week later.
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  • I surrender it all. and one week later. how did you reconcile that?
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  • Think was what happened
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  • Think was what happened in november had something
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  • In november had something to do with this.
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  • To do with this. like, there is no doubt --
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  • Like, there is no doubt -- oh, i've got chills.
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  • The lord was preparing me.
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  • The lord was preparing me. i don't know how to say it
  • 00:11:35.251 --> 00:11:36.519
  • The lord was preparing me. i don't know how to say it any other way, but
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  • I don't know how to say it any other way, but there was something more.
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  • Any other way, but there was something more. i really thought it was
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  • There was something more. i really thought it was about blair's funeral.
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  • I really thought it was about blair's funeral. i thought, oh, his funeral,
  • 00:11:42.992 --> 00:11:44.126
  • About blair's funeral. i thought, oh, his funeral, all these people are going
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  • I thought, oh, his funeral, all these people are going to come to know jesus
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  • All these people are going to come to know jesus at his funeral.
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  • To come to know jesus at his funeral. i could have never known
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  • At his funeral. i could have never known that it was so much bigger
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  • I could have never known that it was so much bigger than just a one-day event --
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  • That it was so much bigger than just a one-day event -- your life, my life.
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  • Than just a one-day event -- your life, my life. i mean, god was writing
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  • Your life, my life. i mean, god was writing a story that i could have
  • 00:11:54.236 --> 00:11:55.471
  • I mean, god was writing a story that i could have never imagined, and honestly,
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  • A story that i could have never imagined, and honestly, probably didn't want to,
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  • Never imagined, and honestly, probably didn't want to, let's be honest,
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  • Probably didn't want to, let's be honest, in the moment.
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  • Let's be honest, in the moment. i mean, i just wanted god
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  • In the moment. i mean, i just wanted god to be glorified at his funeral
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  • I mean, i just wanted god to be glorified at his funeral and my kids to be okay.
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  • To be glorified at his funeral and my kids to be okay. i mean, let's be honest.
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  • And my kids to be okay. i mean, let's be honest. and he was doing something
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  • I mean, let's be honest. and he was doing something so much more.
  • 00:12:09.218 --> 00:12:10.219
  • And he was doing something so much more. but i know that i know,
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  • So much more. but i know that i know, that i know that his funeral
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  • But i know that i know, that i know that his funeral would not have been,
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  • That i know that his funeral would not have been, and honestly, my life would
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  • Would not have been, and honestly, my life would not have been what
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  • And honestly, my life would not have been what it was without that surrender
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  • Not have been what it was without that surrender and without that encounter
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  • It was without that surrender and without that encounter in november.
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  • And without that encounter in november. because it just cracked
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  • In november. because it just cracked the door open that
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  • Because it just cracked the door open that there was more to god.
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  • All these encounters
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  • All these encounters are life-changing.
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  • Are life-changing. they're almost unexplainable
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  • They're almost unexplainable sometimes.
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  • Sometimes. but you just, you know,
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  • But you just, you know, you know that you know
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  • You know that you know that it's god.
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  • That's also watching
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  • That's also watching that feels like i've never
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  • That's also watching that feels like i've never had that encounter with god.
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  • That feels like i've never had that encounter with god. i've never had that.
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  • Had that encounter with god. i've never had that. i want it.
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  • I've never had that. i want it. i don't even know
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  • I want it. i don't even know what it looks like.
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  • I don't even know what it looks like. maybe it's not for me.
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  • What it looks like. maybe it's not for me. how does somebody find
  • 00:12:46.589 --> 00:12:47.690
  • Maybe it's not for me. how does somebody find an encounter with god?
  • 00:12:47.756 --> 00:12:49.058
  • How does somebody find an encounter with god? do you just say, okay, god,
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  • An encounter with god? do you just say, okay, god, i surrender.
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  • Do you just say, okay, god, i surrender. i'm open to an encounter.
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  • I surrender. i'm open to an encounter. how do you know
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  • I'm open to an encounter. how do you know it's an encounter from god?
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  • How do you know it's an encounter from god? how did you know?
  • 00:12:55.030 --> 00:12:56.065
  • It's an encounter from god? how did you know? but what would you say
  • 00:12:56.131 --> 00:12:57.099
  • How did you know? but what would you say to someone that just feels
  • 00:12:57.166 --> 00:12:58.267
  • But what would you say to someone that just feels like i'm ready for that?
  • 00:12:58.334 --> 00:12:59.368
  • To someone that just feels like i'm ready for that? i just don't know
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  • Like i'm ready for that? i just don't know how to get there.
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  • I just don't know how to get there. rachel: it's as easy
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  • How to get there. rachel: it's as easy as sitting with quiet space,
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  • Rachel: it's as easy as sitting with quiet space, eyes closed, asking jesus to
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  • As sitting with quiet space, eyes closed, asking jesus to bring up a joy-filled memory
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  • Eyes closed, asking jesus to bring up a joy-filled memory and see it, smell it,
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  • Bring up a joy-filled memory and see it, smell it, taste it, feel it, hear it,
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  • And see it, smell it, taste it, feel it, hear it, go through all your senses,
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  • Taste it, feel it, hear it, go through all your senses, and then invite jesus
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  • Go through all your senses, and then invite jesus into that memory.
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  • And then invite jesus into that memory. that's an encounter,
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  • Into that memory. that's an encounter, and it changes everything.
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  • That's an encounter, and it changes everything. i mean, everything changes
  • 00:13:21.457 --> 00:13:22.625
  • And it changes everything. i mean, everything changes when you know, the definition
  • 00:13:22.691 --> 00:13:24.326
  • I mean, everything changes when you know, the definition of trauma is feeling alone,
  • 00:13:24.393 --> 00:13:26.562
  • When you know, the definition of trauma is feeling alone, right, in your pain.
  • 00:13:26.629 --> 00:13:28.264
  • Of trauma is feeling alone, right, in your pain. and that is what most people
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  • Right, in your pain. and that is what most people that go through life
  • 00:13:30.099 --> 00:13:31.200
  • And that is what most people that go through life feel alone in their pain,
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  • That go through life feel alone in their pain, and jesus comes in
  • 00:13:32.635 --> 00:13:33.802
  • Feel alone in their pain, and jesus comes in and changes it.
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  • And jesus comes in and changes it. changes the script.
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  • And changes it. changes the script. tammy: i love that.
  • 00:13:36.138 --> 00:13:37.106
  • Changes the script. tammy: i love that. i remember hearing you say
  • 00:13:37.172 --> 00:13:38.173
  • Tammy: i love that. i remember hearing you say that in an interview.
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  • I remember hearing you say that in an interview. for a widow as myself,
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  • That in an interview. for a widow as myself, i thought, that is so good!
  • 00:13:41.377 --> 00:13:43.212
  • For a widow as myself, i thought, that is so good! it also helps me on days
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  • I thought, that is so good! it also helps me on days when i feel, just a little
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  • It also helps me on days when i feel, just a little stuck in the moment and
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  • When i feel, just a little stuck in the moment and i'm missing, and i'm just,
  • 00:13:48.284 --> 00:13:50.786
  • Stuck in the moment and i'm missing, and i'm just, maybe grief or just whatever
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  • I'm missing, and i'm just, maybe grief or just whatever still kind of just punches me.
  • 00:13:52.454 --> 00:13:53.622
  • Maybe grief or just whatever still kind of just punches me. my loss, still after
  • 00:13:53.689 --> 00:13:54.924
  • Still kind of just punches me. my loss, still after all these years, will,
  • 00:13:54.990 --> 00:13:56.158
  • My loss, still after all these years, will, sometimes, i'm sitting at
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  • All these years, will, sometimes, i'm sitting at the top of my stairs
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  • Sometimes, i'm sitting at the top of my stairs and i'm just.
  • 00:13:58.961 --> 00:13:59.962
  • The top of my stairs and i'm just. rachel: yeah. sad.
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  • And i'm just. rachel: yeah. sad. absolutely.
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  • Rachel: yeah. sad. absolutely. tammy: i'm -- just missing
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  • Absolutely. tammy: i'm -- just missing something so great.
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  • Tammy: i'm -- just missing something so great. and i think it reminds me
  • 00:14:14.243 --> 00:14:15.678
  • Something so great. and i think it reminds me that even for any of us
  • 00:14:15.744 --> 00:14:17.813
  • And i think it reminds me that even for any of us that feel the same kind of
  • 00:14:17.880 --> 00:14:21.517
  • That even for any of us that feel the same kind of pain and loneliness,
  • 00:14:21.583 --> 00:14:24.887
  • That feel the same kind of pain and loneliness, of just missing somebody
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  • Pain and loneliness, of just missing somebody knowing where you are,
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  • Of just missing somebody knowing where you are, i think it brings you back
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  • Knowing where you are, i think it brings you back in those moments.
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  • I think it brings you back in those moments. instead of sitting at
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  • In those moments. instead of sitting at the top of my steps
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  • Instead of sitting at the top of my steps and sitting in it for too long
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  • The top of my steps and sitting in it for too long because there's danger,
  • 00:14:37.866 --> 00:14:39.168
  • And sitting in it for too long because there's danger, i think, in sitting in it
  • 00:14:39.234 --> 00:14:40.569
  • Because there's danger, i think, in sitting in it for too long, i give myself
  • 00:14:40.636 --> 00:14:42.671
  • I think, in sitting in it for too long, i give myself permission to be in it,
  • 00:14:42.738 --> 00:14:43.939
  • For too long, i give myself permission to be in it, to feel, to experience
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  • Permission to be in it, to feel, to experience that encounter with god.
  • 00:14:45.274 --> 00:14:46.542
  • To feel, to experience that encounter with god. i think that's the key --
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  • That encounter with god. i think that's the key -- allow yourself to feel.
  • 00:14:48.243 --> 00:14:49.445
  • I think that's the key -- allow yourself to feel. be in it and expect
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  • Allow yourself to feel. be in it and expect an experience, an encounter
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  • Be in it and expect an experience, an encounter with god.
  • 00:14:52.848 --> 00:14:54.216
  • An experience, an encounter with god. when you close your eyes
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  • With god. when you close your eyes and you do go, you think
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  • When you close your eyes and you do go, you think on something lovely,
  • 00:14:57.720 --> 00:14:59.288
  • And you do go, you think on something lovely, something that brings you joy,
  • 00:14:59.355 --> 00:15:01.223
  • On something lovely, something that brings you joy, something that'll
  • 00:15:01.290 --> 00:15:02.257
  • Something that brings you joy, something that'll make you laugh.
  • 00:15:02.324 --> 00:15:03.459
  • Something that'll make you laugh. you think of a memory.
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  • Make you laugh. you think of a memory. i love that tool.
  • 00:15:04.526 --> 00:15:05.627
  • You think of a memory. i love that tool. it's a practical tool.
  • 00:15:05.694 --> 00:15:07.096
  • I love that tool. it's a practical tool. because i think also,
  • 00:15:07.162 --> 00:15:09.064
  • It's a practical tool. because i think also, if we go back and we also
  • 00:15:09.131 --> 00:15:10.199
  • Because i think also, if we go back and we also realize what god --
  • 00:15:10.265 --> 00:15:11.300
  • If we go back and we also realize what god -- and we remember what
  • 00:15:11.367 --> 00:15:12.401
  • Realize what god -- and we remember what god has pulled us through,
  • 00:15:12.468 --> 00:15:13.502
  • And we remember what god has pulled us through, what he's done in our life,
  • 00:15:13.569 --> 00:15:14.770
  • God has pulled us through, what he's done in our life, exactly what he's done,
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  • What he's done in our life, exactly what he's done, everything he's given us,
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  • Exactly what he's done, everything he's given us, the joy, the hope, i think
  • 00:15:17.206 --> 00:15:18.807
  • Everything he's given us, the joy, the hope, i think we're reminded of that.
  • 00:15:18.874 --> 00:15:19.975
  • The joy, the hope, i think we're reminded of that. then we believe he will
  • 00:15:20.042 --> 00:15:20.976
  • We're reminded of that. then we believe he will do it again then.
  • 00:15:21.043 --> 00:15:22.378
  • Then we believe he will do it again then. i can expect more than this
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  • Do it again then. i can expect more than this because of who god says he is
  • 00:15:24.747 --> 00:15:26.415
  • I can expect more than this because of who god says he is in my life, my identity,
  • 00:15:26.482 --> 00:15:27.816
  • Because of who god says he is in my life, my identity, and what he wants to do.
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  • In my life, my identity, and what he wants to do. amen!
  • 00:15:28.917 --> 00:15:30.686
  • And what he wants to do. amen! and that's what you've done.
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  • Amen! and that's what you've done. that's what i love about --
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  • I love this, that pain
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  • I love this, that pain is a superpower.
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  • Is a superpower. how can pain be a superpower?
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  • How can pain be a superpower? because people feel like,
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  • Because people feel like, uh-huh!
  • 00:15:41.797 --> 00:15:42.765
  • Uh-huh! that is not my superpower
  • 00:15:42.831 --> 00:15:43.766
  • That is not my superpower because it hurts so much.
  • 00:15:43.832 --> 00:15:45.701
  • Because it hurts so much. rachel: well, i remember
  • 00:15:45.768 --> 00:15:46.835
  • Rachel: well, i remember being in israel in 2019
  • 00:15:46.902 --> 00:15:48.871
  • Being in israel in 2019 and i will never forget
  • 00:15:48.937 --> 00:15:50.773
  • And i will never forget the bus driver saying,
  • 00:15:50.839 --> 00:15:51.974
  • The bus driver saying, the crops only grow
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  • The crops only grow in the valley.
  • 00:15:53.108 --> 00:15:54.510
  • In the valley. i thought, oh my goodness!
  • 00:15:54.576 --> 00:15:56.979
  • The fruit is grown,
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  • The fruit is grown, the fruit of our lives
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  • The fruit is grown, the fruit of our lives is grown in the valley.
  • 00:16:01.417 --> 00:16:03.886
  • The fruit of our lives is grown in the valley. it's not on the mountain.
  • 00:16:03.952 --> 00:16:05.154
  • Is grown in the valley. it's not on the mountain. on the mountain, you get
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  • It's not on the mountain. on the mountain, you get to look out and see
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  • On the mountain, you get to look out and see what god has done.
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  • To look out and see what god has done. yes, it's beautiful,
  • 00:16:08.857 --> 00:16:09.858
  • What god has done. yes, it's beautiful, but you don't learn
  • 00:16:09.925 --> 00:16:10.926
  • Yes, it's beautiful, but you don't learn on the mountain.
  • 00:16:10.993 --> 00:16:11.994
  • But you don't learn on the mountain. you learn in the valley.
  • 00:16:12.061 --> 00:16:13.262
  • On the mountain. you learn in the valley. i think for me,
  • 00:16:13.328 --> 00:16:14.329
  • You learn in the valley. i think for me, i've told my kids this
  • 00:16:14.396 --> 00:16:15.597
  • I think for me, i've told my kids this their whole life, i'm like,
  • 00:16:15.664 --> 00:16:16.899
  • I've told my kids this their whole life, i'm like, your pain will be
  • 00:16:16.965 --> 00:16:18.200
  • Their whole life, i'm like, your pain will be your superpower because
  • 00:16:18.267 --> 00:16:19.334
  • Your pain will be your superpower because you know things that
  • 00:16:19.401 --> 00:16:20.469
  • Your superpower because you know things that other children do not know.
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  • You know things that other children do not know. i hate that every day,
  • 00:16:22.438 --> 00:16:24.573
  • Other children do not know. i hate that every day, tammy, i hate it.
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  • I hate that every day, tammy, i hate it. i loathe it.
  • 00:16:25.908 --> 00:16:27.109
  • Tammy, i hate it. i loathe it. and at the same time,
  • 00:16:27.176 --> 00:16:28.243
  • I loathe it. and at the same time, it's made them, it's made me,
  • 00:16:28.310 --> 00:16:30.179
  • And at the same time, it's made them, it's made me, it's made you,
  • 00:16:30.245 --> 00:16:31.814
  • It's made them, it's made me, it's made you, it's made everybody listening,
  • 00:16:31.880 --> 00:16:33.315
  • It's made you, it's made everybody listening, i hate to say it,
  • 00:16:33.382 --> 00:16:34.416
  • It's made everybody listening, i hate to say it, but you don't learn
  • 00:16:34.483 --> 00:16:35.484
  • I hate to say it, but you don't learn in the good times,
  • 00:16:35.551 --> 00:16:36.618
  • But you don't learn in the good times, you learn in the pain.
  • 00:16:36.685 --> 00:16:38.554
  • In the good times, you learn in the pain. you can either
  • 00:16:38.620 --> 00:16:39.721
  • You learn in the pain. you can either let it defeat you
  • 00:16:39.788 --> 00:16:40.823
  • You can either let it defeat you or you can let it
  • 00:16:40.889 --> 00:16:42.057
  • Let it defeat you or you can let it empower you.
  • 00:16:42.124 --> 00:16:43.125
  • Or you can let it empower you. there's two choices.
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  • Empower you. there's two choices. tammy: there's always
  • 00:16:44.226 --> 00:16:45.194
  • There's two choices. tammy: there's always two choices, i think.
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  • Tammy: there's always two choices, i think. don't you think?
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  • Two choices, i think. don't you think? what do you think is
  • 00:16:47.396 --> 00:16:48.397
  • Don't you think? what do you think is the most important moment
  • 00:16:48.464 --> 00:16:50.732
  • What do you think is the most important moment or piece of recovery
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  • The most important moment or piece of recovery from grief?
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  • Or piece of recovery from grief? rachel: wow!
  • 00:16:55.204 --> 00:16:56.238
  • From grief? rachel: wow! that's a great question.
  • 00:16:56.305 --> 00:16:57.439
  • Rachel: wow! that's a great question. i think the moment is when
  • 00:16:57.506 --> 00:16:58.841
  • That's a great question. i think the moment is when you hit rock bottom,
  • 00:16:58.907 --> 00:17:00.375
  • I think the moment is when you hit rock bottom, what you decide to do
  • 00:17:00.442 --> 00:17:01.777
  • You hit rock bottom, what you decide to do in that place.
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  • What you decide to do in that place. because you can stay there
  • 00:17:03.412 --> 00:17:05.547
  • In that place. because you can stay there or you can ask for help.
  • 00:17:05.614 --> 00:17:07.416
  • Because you can stay there or you can ask for help. and i believe more than
  • 00:17:07.483 --> 00:17:08.717
  • Or you can ask for help. and i believe more than anything else, because
  • 00:17:08.784 --> 00:17:10.085
  • And i believe more than anything else, because i've seen it time and time
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  • Anything else, because i've seen it time and time again in our groups across
  • 00:17:11.487 --> 00:17:12.654
  • I've seen it time and time again in our groups across the country, but you cannot
  • 00:17:12.721 --> 00:17:14.289
  • Again in our groups across the country, but you cannot heal outside of community.
  • 00:17:14.356 --> 00:17:16.258
  • The country, but you cannot heal outside of community. you cannot heal outside
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  • That's with a therapist.
  • 00:17:18.527 --> 00:17:19.495
  • That's with a therapist. i believe it's more than
  • 00:17:19.561 --> 00:17:20.662
  • I believe it's more than just a therapist.
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  • Just a therapist. i believe there's so much more
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  • I believe there's so much more than just talking behind
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  • Than just talking behind a closed door to someone
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  • A closed door to someone who knows how to talk to you.
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  • Confess your sins
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  • Confess your sins one to another
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  • Confess your sins one to another so that you might be healed.
  • 00:17:30.772 --> 00:17:31.874
  • One to another so that you might be healed. not that grief is a sin
  • 00:17:31.940 --> 00:17:32.941
  • So that you might be healed. not that grief is a sin by any means, but
  • 00:17:33.008 --> 00:17:34.143
  • Not that grief is a sin by any means, but that confession, jesus did
  • 00:17:34.209 --> 00:17:35.777
  • By any means, but that confession, jesus did the work, but we have a part
  • 00:17:35.844 --> 00:17:37.646
  • That confession, jesus did the work, but we have a part in it, right?
  • 00:17:37.713 --> 00:17:38.881
  • The work, but we have a part in it, right? in that confessing,
  • 00:17:38.947 --> 00:17:40.048
  • In it, right? in that confessing, i'm struggling.
  • 00:17:40.115 --> 00:17:41.550
  • In that confessing, i'm struggling. i'm struggling.
  • 00:17:41.617 --> 00:17:42.851
  • I'm struggling. i'm struggling. i need help, it like,
  • 00:17:42.918 --> 00:17:44.887
  • I'm struggling. i need help, it like, literally unlocks
  • 00:17:44.953 --> 00:17:46.121
  • I need help, it like, literally unlocks your whole life.
  • 00:17:46.188 --> 00:17:47.189
  • Literally unlocks your whole life. tammy: totally.
  • 00:17:47.256 --> 00:17:48.457
  • Your whole life. tammy: totally. i think you said it there,
  • 00:17:48.524 --> 00:17:50.125
  • Tammy: totally. i think you said it there, community.
  • 00:17:50.192 --> 00:17:51.393
  • I think you said it there, community. the opposite of community
  • 00:17:51.460 --> 00:17:52.494
  • Community. the opposite of community would be isolation.
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  • The opposite of community would be isolation. we cannot isolate.
  • 00:17:54.129 --> 00:17:55.264
  • Would be isolation. we cannot isolate. so, if you're watching today,
  • 00:17:55.330 --> 00:17:58.100
  • We cannot isolate. so, if you're watching today, i pray -- i pray that
  • 00:17:58.167 --> 00:18:00.302
  • So, if you're watching today, i pray -- i pray that there was something
  • 00:18:00.369 --> 00:18:01.670
  • I pray -- i pray that there was something in this quick amount of time
  • 00:18:01.737 --> 00:18:02.938
  • There was something in this quick amount of time that we spoke about grief
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  • In this quick amount of time that we spoke about grief and about loss that
  • 00:18:05.073 --> 00:18:06.542
  • That we spoke about grief and about loss that there was a takeaway for you.
  • 00:18:06.608 --> 00:18:07.976
  • And about loss that there was a takeaway for you. maybe it's just that sitting
  • 00:18:08.043 --> 00:18:10.445
  • There was a takeaway for you. maybe it's just that sitting at the top of your steps
  • 00:18:10.512 --> 00:18:12.014
  • Maybe it's just that sitting at the top of your steps today and asking god to have
  • 00:18:12.080 --> 00:18:13.849
  • At the top of your steps today and asking god to have an encounter with him.
  • 00:18:13.916 --> 00:18:15.617
  • Today and asking god to have an encounter with him. just do something
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  • An encounter with him. just do something in my heart today, jesus.
  • 00:18:17.052 --> 00:18:18.320
  • Just do something in my heart today, jesus. like, stir something.
  • 00:18:18.387 --> 00:18:19.354
  • In my heart today, jesus. like, stir something. i don't want to be stuck here.
  • 00:18:19.421 --> 00:18:20.556
  • Like, stir something. i don't want to be stuck here. i don't want to carry this.
  • 00:18:20.622 --> 00:18:21.757
  • I don't want to be stuck here. i don't want to carry this. or i'm always living
  • 00:18:21.823 --> 00:18:22.758
  • I don't want to carry this. or i'm always living in fear of loss.
  • 00:18:22.824 --> 00:18:24.593
  • Or i'm always living in fear of loss. i think god wants to do
  • 00:18:24.660 --> 00:18:25.727
  • In fear of loss. i think god wants to do a work in your life today.
  • 00:18:25.794 --> 00:18:27.696
  • I think god wants to do a work in your life today. i pray that this has been
  • 00:18:27.763 --> 00:18:28.764
  • A work in your life today. i pray that this has been a blessing to you.
  • 00:18:28.830 --> 00:18:29.765
  • I pray that this has been a blessing to you. but don't isolate,
  • 00:18:29.831 --> 00:18:30.799
  • A blessing to you. but don't isolate, find community, whatever
  • 00:18:30.866 --> 00:18:31.800
  • But don't isolate, find community, whatever that looks like for you.
  • 00:18:31.867 --> 00:18:32.901
  • Find community, whatever that looks like for you. but just keep moving.
  • 00:18:32.968 --> 00:18:34.102
  • That looks like for you. but just keep moving. just keep moving.
  • 00:18:34.169 --> 00:18:35.571
  • But just keep moving. just keep moving. set yourself up for success.
  • 00:18:35.637 --> 00:18:37.639
  • Just keep moving. set yourself up for success. set that alarm every day
  • 00:18:37.706 --> 00:18:38.774
  • Set yourself up for success. set that alarm every day and wake up and put your feet
  • 00:18:38.840 --> 00:18:39.908
  • Set that alarm every day and wake up and put your feet on the ground,
  • 00:18:39.975 --> 00:18:40.909
  • And wake up and put your feet on the ground, and say, i did it!
  • 00:18:40.976 --> 00:18:42.077
  • On the ground, and say, i did it! i got through another day.
  • 00:18:42.144 --> 00:18:43.145
  • And say, i did it! i got through another day. i'm here.
  • 00:18:43.212 --> 00:18:44.213
  • I got through another day. i'm here. what do we do now
  • 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:45.547
  • I'm here. what do we do now with this day, jesus?
  • 00:18:45.614 --> 00:18:46.548
  • What do we do now with this day, jesus? with this day,
  • 00:18:46.615 --> 00:18:47.583
  • With this day, jesus? with this day, with this moment?
  • 00:18:47.649 --> 00:18:48.784
  • With this day, with this moment? god has got great plans
  • 00:18:48.850 --> 00:18:50.018
  • With this moment? god has got great plans for you and a great purpose
  • 00:18:50.085 --> 00:18:51.119
  • God has got great plans for you and a great purpose for your life.
  • 00:18:51.186 --> 00:18:52.154
  • For you and a great purpose for your life. this is not the end
  • 00:18:52.221 --> 00:18:53.355
  • For your life. this is not the end of your story.
  • 00:18:53.422 --> 00:18:54.423
  • This is not the end of your story. so start, living.
  • 00:18:54.489 --> 00:18:55.657
  • Of your story. so start, living. start living big.
  • 00:18:55.724 --> 00:18:57.059
  • So start, living. start living big. and i'm telling you right now,
  • 00:18:57.125 --> 00:18:58.360
  • There's some incredible
  • 00:18:58.827 --> 00:19:00.062
  • Children that i got to meet
  • 00:19:00.128 --> 00:19:01.763
  • In central america
  • 00:19:01.830 --> 00:19:02.898
  • Not too long ago,
  • 00:19:02.965 --> 00:19:04.199
  • And we were really living.
  • 00:19:04.266 --> 00:19:05.567
  • We were having the best time
  • 00:19:05.634 --> 00:19:07.169
  • Together because i got to go
  • 00:19:07.236 --> 00:19:08.470
  • Over there with life outreach
  • 00:19:08.537 --> 00:19:10.405
  • And i got to give them
  • 00:19:10.472 --> 00:19:11.940
  • Some christmas shoes.
  • 00:19:12.007 --> 00:19:13.242
  • It's one of my favorite
  • 00:19:13.308 --> 00:19:14.376
  • Outreaches we do
  • 00:19:14.443 --> 00:19:15.477
  • Here at life today .
  • 00:19:15.544 --> 00:19:16.845
  • Why? it's because
  • 00:19:16.912 --> 00:19:18.413
  • There's so much joy
  • 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:19.648
  • That's wrapped in the gift
  • 00:19:19.715 --> 00:19:20.983
  • Of a brand-new pair of shoes,
  • 00:19:21.049 --> 00:19:22.484
  • Especially when i get
  • 00:19:22.551 --> 00:19:23.852
  • To sit down and personally
  • 00:19:23.919 --> 00:19:25.220
  • Put them on the feet of
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  • These precious children
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  • All around the world.
  • 00:19:27.889 --> 00:19:29.591
  • And another highlight for me
  • 00:19:29.658 --> 00:19:30.892
  • Is always praying
  • 00:19:30.959 --> 00:19:32.261
  • With the families.
  • 00:19:32.327 --> 00:19:33.629
  • They had so many needs
  • 00:19:33.695 --> 00:19:34.896
  • When i was there.
  • 00:19:34.963 --> 00:19:35.964
  • Just so many, so many asking,
  • 00:19:36.031 --> 00:19:37.699
  • And can you help?
  • 00:19:37.766 --> 00:19:38.967
  • Just being in those spaces,
  • 00:19:39.034 --> 00:19:40.402
  • Just wanting to pray
  • 00:19:40.469 --> 00:19:41.570
  • With them.
  • 00:19:41.637 --> 00:19:42.571
  • Yet, they were so grateful.
  • 00:19:42.638 --> 00:19:44.106
  • We simply just showed up
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  • And gave everything we could
  • 00:19:45.340 --> 00:19:46.742
  • To lighten their load.
  • 00:19:46.808 --> 00:19:47.943
  • We have to do whatever
  • 00:19:48.010 --> 00:19:49.244
  • It takes, because this is
  • 00:19:49.311 --> 00:19:50.779
  • A simple need that doesn't
  • 00:19:50.846 --> 00:19:52.014
  • Cost much to meet, but
  • 00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:53.515
  • It could cost so much
  • 00:19:53.582 --> 00:19:54.850
  • If we don't.
  • 00:19:54.916 --> 00:19:56.218
  • It could cost a child
  • 00:19:56.285 --> 00:19:57.252
  • Their health or even worse,
  • 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:58.453
  • Their lives.
  • 00:19:58.520 --> 00:19:59.621
  • So here's what that would
  • 00:19:59.688 --> 00:20:00.822
  • Look like right now
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  • If you can help.
  • 00:20:01.923 --> 00:20:03.125
  • To manufacture
  • 00:20:03.191 --> 00:20:04.226
  • And deliver the shoes,
  • 00:20:04.293 --> 00:20:05.961
  • It costs $3.60 a pair.
  • 00:20:06.028 --> 00:20:08.930
  • That means your gift today
  • 00:20:08.997 --> 00:20:10.232
  • Of $36 will help provide
  • 00:20:10.299 --> 00:20:11.767
  • Ten children with their
  • 00:20:11.833 --> 00:20:13.702
  • Very first pair of shoes,
  • 00:20:13.769 --> 00:20:15.270
  • $72 will provide 20,
  • 00:20:15.337 --> 00:20:17.439
  • And $180 will help us secure
  • 00:20:17.506 --> 00:20:19.007
  • And ship christmas shoes
  • 00:20:19.074 --> 00:20:20.409
  • For 50 children just in time
  • 00:20:20.475 --> 00:20:22.010
  • For the holidays.
  • 00:20:22.077 --> 00:20:23.945
  • And on top of that,
  • 00:20:24.012 --> 00:20:25.180
  • We're also seeking to provide
  • 00:20:25.247 --> 00:20:26.748
  • Much needed cleft lip
  • 00:20:26.815 --> 00:20:28.150
  • And cleft palate surgeries
  • 00:20:28.216 --> 00:20:29.451
  • For children around the world.
  • 00:20:29.518 --> 00:20:31.586
  • So would you consider
  • 00:20:31.653 --> 00:20:32.788
  • Giving $500 to help provide
  • 00:20:32.854 --> 00:20:34.022
  • A child with a corrective
  • 00:20:34.089 --> 00:20:35.490
  • Surgery and give them
  • 00:20:35.557 --> 00:20:36.591
  • A brand-new smile?
  • 00:20:36.658 --> 00:20:38.527
  • If that's you, and
  • 00:20:38.593 --> 00:20:39.628
  • I believe it is, come on,
  • 00:20:39.695 --> 00:20:40.696
  • We can do this together.
  • 00:20:40.762 --> 00:20:41.897
  • Go online or call today
  • 00:20:41.963 --> 00:20:43.265
  • With your gift.
  • 00:20:43.332 --> 00:20:44.333
  • Because every day
  • 00:20:44.399 --> 00:20:45.400
  • Without shoes is a day
  • 00:20:45.467 --> 00:20:46.535
  • That a child is at risk.
  • 00:20:46.601 --> 00:20:49.237
  • Let's make this christmas
  • 00:20:49.304 --> 00:20:50.339
  • Unforgettable by spreading
  • 00:20:50.405 --> 00:20:52.007
  • The love of jesus one pair
  • 00:20:52.074 --> 00:20:53.342
  • Of shoes and one beautiful
  • 00:20:53.408 --> 00:20:55.077
  • Smile at a time.
  • 00:20:55.143 --> 00:20:56.712
  • Poverty is a killer, and because of it,
  • 00:20:58.046 --> 00:21:00.615
  • Children needlessly suffer
  • 00:21:00.615 --> 00:21:02.684
  • Not only from lack of food and clean water,
  • 00:21:02.684 --> 00:21:04.720
  • But also from a lack of things we take for granted,
  • 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.122
  • Such as a healthy smile
  • 00:21:07.122 --> 00:21:09.424
  • Or a protective pair of shoes.
  • 00:21:09.424 --> 00:21:11.526
  • Far too many children living in extreme poverty
  • 00:21:11.526 --> 00:21:14.029
  • Have never owned a pair of shoes.
  • 00:21:14.029 --> 00:21:16.098
  • And while that may seem minor,
  • 00:21:16.098 --> 00:21:18.233
  • Walking with bare feet puts them at risk
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  • Of painful infections, injury, and life-threatening diseases.
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  • But this christmas, you can bring hope and healing.
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  • Your gift today will help provide new shoes
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  • For 150,000 children in time for the holidays.
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  • And for some children, a beautiful new smile.
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  • Your gift of $36 will help provide shoes for ten children,
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  • $72 will help provide for 20,
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  • $180 will help provide shoes for 50,
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  • And a gift of $500 will help provide a cleft surgery,
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  • Restoring a child's smile forever.
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  • As a thank you for your gift of support,
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  • Be sure to request the beautifully crafted
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  • Yellow crystal shoe ornament,
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  • A treasure to display each christmas.
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  • With your gift of $100 or more,
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  • You may request this keepsake set featuring
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  • Four of life's colorful crystal shoe ornaments.
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  • Finally, please consider a gift of $1,000 or more
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  • To help provide over 275 pairs of shoes
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  • Or two children with corrective smile surgeries,
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  • And you may request the beautiful bronze sculpture, "lion of judah."
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  • Please call, write, or make your gift online today.
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  • Tammy: i hope you're going
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  • Tammy: i hope you're going online and giving the
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  • Tammy: i hope you're going online and giving the best gift that you can give.
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  • Online and giving the best gift that you can give. you must know it will make
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  • Best gift that you can give. you must know it will make an eternal impact on the lives
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  • You must know it will make an eternal impact on the lives of so many right now today.
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  • An eternal impact on the lives of so many right now today. rachel, i have truly,
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  • Of so many right now today. rachel, i have truly, truly loved my time with you.
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  • It's been a long time
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  • It's been a long time coming for us girls
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  • It's been a long time coming for us girls to just sit down.
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  • Coming for us girls to just sit down. i'm already crying again,
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  • To just sit down. i'm already crying again, but just to have a really
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  • I'm already crying again, but just to have a really good conversation;
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  • But just to have a really good conversation; it went really, really fast.
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  • Good conversation; it went really, really fast. but we've been through it,
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  • It went really, really fast. but we've been through it, and god is going to take us
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  • But we've been through it, and god is going to take us a long way still, because
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  • And god is going to take us a long way still, because we've got a lot still
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  • A long way still, because we've got a lot still to talk about.
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  • We've got a lot still to talk about. and you have incredible
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  • To talk about. and you have incredible ministries that you're doing.
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  • And you have incredible ministries that you're doing. tell us where people
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  • Ministries that you're doing. tell us where people can find you.
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  • Rachel: neveralonewidows.com
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  • Rachel: neveralonewidows.com is where they can connect
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  • Rachel: neveralonewidows.com is where they can connect in groups for community.
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  • Is where they can connect in groups for community. come to our conference.
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  • In groups for community. come to our conference. come to retreats.
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  • Come to our conference. come to retreats. and then through the book,
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  • Come to retreats. and then through the book, obviously, you can find
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  • And then through the book, obviously, you can find the book there
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  • Obviously, you can find the book there or on amazon.com.
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  • The book there or on amazon.com. tammy: make sure to go pick up
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  • A copy of widow's might .
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  • A copy of widow's might . it will bless you so much.
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  • A copy of widow's might . it will bless you so much. thank you so much
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  • It will bless you so much. thank you so much for being here.
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  • Thank you so much for being here. i love you, i appreciate you.
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  • For being here. i love you, i appreciate you. i love you,
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  • I love you, i appreciate you. i love you, and i appreciate you guys.
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  • I love you, and i appreciate you guys. thank you for watching.
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  • And i appreciate you guys. thank you for watching. we'll see you next time
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  • Thank you for watching. we'll see you next time on life today .
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  • ♪ there's torn-up pages in this book ♪
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  • ♪ words that tell me i'm no good ♪
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  • ♪ chapters that defined me for so long ♪
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  • ♪ but the hands of grace and endless love ♪
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  • ♪ dusted off and picked me up ♪
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  • ♪ told my heart that hope is never gone ♪
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  • ♪ god is in this story ♪
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  • ♪ god is in the details ♪
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  • ♪ even in the broken parts ♪
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  • ♪ he holds my heart ♪
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  • ♪ he never fails ♪
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  • ♪ when i'm at my weakest ♪
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  • ♪ i will trust in jesus ♪
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  • ♪ always in the highs and lows ♪
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  • ♪ the one who goes before me ♪
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  • ♪ god is in this story ♪
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  • ♪ so if the storm you're walking through ♪
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  • ♪ feels like it's too much ♪
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  • ♪ and you wonder if he even cares at all ♪
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  • ♪ hold on tight to what you know ♪
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  • ♪ he promised he won't let you go ♪
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  • ♪ your song of healing's written in his scars ♪
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  • ♪ god is in this story ♪
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  • ♪ god is in the details ♪
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  • ♪ even in the broken parts ♪
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  • ♪ he holds my heart ♪
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  • ♪ he never fails ♪
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  • ♪ when i'm at my weakest ♪
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  • ♪ i will trust in jesus ♪
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  • ♪ always in the highs and lows ♪
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  • ♪ the one who goes before me ♪
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  • ♪ god is in this story ♪
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  • ♪ if it reads like addiction ♪
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  • ♪ if it reads like disease ♪
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  • ♪ he's the one who frees the prisoner ♪
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  • ♪ he's the healer of all things ♪
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  • ♪ if it reads like depression ♪
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  • ♪ if it reads broken home ♪
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  • ♪ he's the one who holds your sorrow ♪
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  • ♪ he won't leave you here alone ♪
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  • ♪ god is in this story ♪
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  • ♪ god is in the details ♪
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  • ♪ even in the broken parts ♪
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  • ♪ he holds my heart ♪
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  • ♪ he never fails ♪
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  • ♪ when i'm at my weakest ♪
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  • ♪ i will trust in jesus ♪
  • 00:26:27.842 --> 00:26:31.346
  • ♪ always in the highs and lows ♪
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  • ♪ the one who goes before me ♪
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  • ♪ always in the highs and lows ♪
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  • ♪ the one who goes before me ♪
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  • ♪ god is in this story ♪
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  • ♪ god is in my story ♪
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  • >> so responding to stress, i believe is one of the ways
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  • That god helps build character in us.
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  • Dr. charles stone blends brain science
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  • And biblical truth. tomorrow!
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