Steven Curtis Chapman - Faithful And True

July 11, 2025 | S25 E182 | 29:15

The acclaimed singer/songwriter shares the hardest moments of his life to show how God stays with us throughout it all.

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Life Today with James Robison | Steven Curtis Chapman - Faithful And True | July 11, 2025

Announcer: next on life today .
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♪ my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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Announcer: the most awarded artist
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In christian music history, steven curtis chapman.
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>> i feel like my journey has been that;
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It's been one foot in both, this very broken real world
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But longing for heaven and trying to use the gifts
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That god has given me to point people
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In that direction to share my journey.
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♪
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Betty: what an awesome
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Betty: what an awesome audience tonight!
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Betty: what an awesome audience tonight! welcome to life today !
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Audience tonight! welcome to life today ! thank you so much
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Welcome to life today ! thank you so much for joining us.
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Thank you so much for joining us. i'm betty and this is james.
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For joining us. i'm betty and this is james. james: they came
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I'm betty and this is james. james: they came to hear me sing.
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James: they came to hear me sing. i'm so good.
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Betty: i don't think so.
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Betty: i don't think so. james: see we've got a guy
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Betty: i don't think so. james: see we've got a guy that's won more grammys
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James: see we've got a guy that's won more grammys than anybody.
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That's won more grammys than anybody. betty: that's not you.
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Than anybody. betty: that's not you. james: no.
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Betty: that's not you. james: no. [laughter]
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James: no. [laughter] why do you make fun
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[laughter] why do you make fun of my singing?
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Why do you make fun of my singing? betty: sometimes truth hurts.
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Of my singing? betty: sometimes truth hurts. [laughter]
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Betty: sometimes truth hurts. [laughter] james: let me set you back.
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[laughter] james: let me set you back. when we get to heaven,
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James: let me set you back. when we get to heaven, you're going to listen
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When we get to heaven, you're going to listen to me sing the first year
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You're going to listen to me sing the first year because i'm flat going to
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To me sing the first year because i'm flat going to be able to sing in heaven.
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Because i'm flat going to be able to sing in heaven. do you believe that?
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Be able to sing in heaven. do you believe that? betty: yeah. i'm trying to.
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Do you believe that? betty: yeah. i'm trying to. [laughter]
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Betty: yeah. i'm trying to. [laughter] james: it's maybe too big
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[laughter] james: it's maybe too big of a miracle.
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James: it's maybe too big of a miracle. steven: still hard to imagine.
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Of a miracle. steven: still hard to imagine. james: welcome steven curtis
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Steven: still hard to imagine. james: welcome steven curtis chapman to life today .
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James: welcome steven curtis chapman to life today . [cheers & applause]
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Chapman to life today . [cheers & applause] i'm going to turn
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[cheers & applause] i'm going to turn this out here.
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I'm going to turn this out here. i want one of the cameras
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This out here. i want one of the cameras to come in and let me see
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I want one of the cameras to come in and let me see pretty tight here;
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To come in and let me see pretty tight here; get a camera that can
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Pretty tight here; get a camera that can come on in on him.
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Get a camera that can come on in on him. now here's what i told him
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Come on in on him. now here's what i told him when i held it up.
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Now here's what i told him when i held it up. we had dinner before
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When i held it up. we had dinner before we came out.
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We had dinner before we came out. you may be watching this
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We came out. you may be watching this early in the morning,
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You may be watching this early in the morning, you may still have
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Early in the morning, you may still have on your pajamas.
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You may still have on your pajamas. a lot of people say,
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On your pajamas. a lot of people say, "i'm glad i can see you --
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A lot of people say, "i'm glad i can see you -- glad you can't see me."
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"i'm glad i can see you -- glad you can't see me." you can watch us through
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Glad you can't see me." you can watch us through the day. but we tape in
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You can watch us through the day. but we tape in the evening.
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The day. but we tape in the evening. but i'm saying to steven and
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The evening. but i'm saying to steven and the group that was with us,
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But i'm saying to steven and the group that was with us, franklin graham happened
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The group that was with us, franklin graham happened to be there with us,
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Franklin graham happened to be there with us, and i said, "i see glory.
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To be there with us, and i said, "i see glory. i see the glory of god
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And i said, "i see glory. i see the glory of god on a father."
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I see the glory of god on a father." a father that lost a child.
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On a father." a father that lost a child. and this is the story;
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A father that lost a child. and this is the story; this is his story,
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And this is the story; this is his story, the lord's story in him,
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This is his story, the lord's story in him, "between heaven
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The lord's story in him, "between heaven and the real world."
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"between heaven and the real world." i got to hear him tell me
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And the real world." i got to hear him tell me about "the real world."
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I got to hear him tell me about "the real world." steven, what are you
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About "the real world." steven, what are you saying here "between heaven
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Steven, what are you saying here "between heaven and the real world"?
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Saying here "between heaven and the real world"? what does that mean to you
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Steven: well...
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Steven: well... it's good to be back
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It's good to be back with you guys.
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With you guys. thank you for what you do.
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Thank you for what you do. you will appreciate this
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Amazing examples of people
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Amazing examples of people who have been committed
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Amazing examples of people who have been committed with your life and with
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Who have been committed with your life and with the gifts that god has
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With your life and with the gifts that god has entrusted you to try to bring
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The gifts that god has entrusted you to try to bring god's presence and reality
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Entrusted you to try to bring god's presence and reality into the real world
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God's presence and reality into the real world where people are living,
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Into the real world where people are living, where you're living,
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Where people are living, where you're living, where we're living.
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Where you're living, where we're living. i have for as long as i can
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Where we're living. i have for as long as i can remember, that's what
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I have for as long as i can remember, that's what i've wanted to do with
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Remember, that's what i've wanted to do with the gifts that god's given me,
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I've wanted to do with the gifts that god's given me, writing songs
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The gifts that god's given me, writing songs and playing music.
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Writing songs and playing music. the first song i wrote
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And playing music. the first song i wrote i was 15-16 years old.
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The first song i wrote i was 15-16 years old. i tell the story
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I was 15-16 years old. i tell the story about growing up
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I tell the story about growing up in paducah, kentucky
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About growing up in paducah, kentucky in a family that didn't
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In paducah, kentucky in a family that didn't -- we grew up in the buckle
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In a family that didn't -- we grew up in the buckle of the bible belt
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-- we grew up in the buckle of the bible belt so we didn't -- my parents
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Of the bible belt so we didn't -- my parents grew up in church but
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So we didn't -- my parents grew up in church but they weren't walking
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Grew up in church but they weren't walking with the lord.
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They weren't walking with the lord. i get to share just
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With the lord. i get to share just a transformation that took
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I get to share just a transformation that took place in my family's life
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A transformation that took place in my family's life and watching god really
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Place in my family's life and watching god really transform and change
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And watching god really transform and change my parents; watching us
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Transform and change my parents; watching us go from a family that were
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My parents; watching us go from a family that were a lot of trouble,
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Go from a family that were a lot of trouble, a lot of struggles to just
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A lot of trouble, a lot of struggles to just my dad who didn't have
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A lot of struggles to just my dad who didn't have a father, whenever those
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My dad who didn't have a father, whenever those troubles would come, we would
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A father, whenever those troubles would come, we would end up on our knees together
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Troubles would come, we would end up on our knees together and i'd hear my dad pray,
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End up on our knees together and i'd hear my dad pray, "god, i don't know how
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And i'd hear my dad pray, "god, i don't know how to do this but i know
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"god, i don't know how to do this but i know you can give me wisdom.
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To do this but i know you can give me wisdom. you're the father
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You can give me wisdom. you're the father to all fathers.
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You're the father to all fathers. you can show me
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To all fathers. you can show me how to do this."
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You can show me how to do this." james: how old were you
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How to do this." james: how old were you when you started having
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James: how old were you when you started having that connection?
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When you started having that connection? steven: i was 7-8 years old.
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That connection? steven: i was 7-8 years old. but i started writing songs
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Steven: i was 7-8 years old. but i started writing songs and i realized early on
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But i started writing songs and i realized early on that god -- people would
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And i realized early on that god -- people would tell me, "god's given you
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That god -- people would tell me, "god's given you a talent, given you a gift."
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Tell me, "god's given you a talent, given you a gift." james: was it the writing
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A talent, given you a gift." james: was it the writing then at first?
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James: was it the writing then at first? steven: at first it was
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Then at first? steven: at first it was just singing.
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Steven: at first it was just singing. i sang with my family;
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Just singing. i sang with my family; i grew up singing in church
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I sang with my family; i grew up singing in church with my family.
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I grew up singing in church with my family. but i think even then
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With my family. but i think even then i began to see even as
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But i think even then i began to see even as a little boy the impact,
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I began to see even as a little boy the impact, the change in the real world
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A little boy the impact, the change in the real world that i lived in that had
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The change in the real world that i lived in that had a lot of friction and a lot of
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That i lived in that had a lot of friction and a lot of -- they were fighting
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A lot of friction and a lot of -- they were fighting and arguing but i began
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-- they were fighting and arguing but i began to see when god's word was
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And arguing but i began to see when god's word was brought in, when there was
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To see when god's word was brought in, when there was prayer and when seeking god
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Brought in, when there was prayer and when seeking god was brought into the middle
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Prayer and when seeking god was brought into the middle of that it brought peace
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Was brought into the middle of that it brought peace into the chaos,
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Of that it brought peace into the chaos, it brought purpose into
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Into the chaos, it brought purpose into this kind of craziness that
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It brought purpose into this kind of craziness that was going on in my family.
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This kind of craziness that was going on in my family. that began to mark me
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Was going on in my family. that began to mark me even as a young man.
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That began to mark me even as a young man. i began to write songs
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Even as a young man. i began to write songs really with a prayer;
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I began to write songs really with a prayer; that i would understand
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Really with a prayer; that i would understand as time went on that it was
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That i would understand as time went on that it was this desire to come to know
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As time went on that it was this desire to come to know who god is and then
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This desire to come to know who god is and then to make him known with
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Who god is and then to make him known with the gifts he had given me.
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And it's been an amazing,
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And it's been an amazing, amazing journey and i began
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Amazing journey and i began to look back on it and see
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To look back on it and see that throughout my life
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A man that i know you are
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A man that i know you are dear friends with as well,
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A man that i know you are dear friends with as well, chuck colson, who had
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Dear friends with as well, chuck colson, who had such an impact in the lives
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Chuck colson, who had such an impact in the lives of so many people.
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Such an impact in the lives of so many people. i got to go into prisons,
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Of so many people. i got to go into prisons, into death row cell blocks
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I got to go into prisons, into death row cell blocks with him and minister
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I had a chance to go
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I had a chance to go to the jungles of ecuador
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To the jungles of ecuador where jim elliot
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Where jim elliot and nate saint and those men
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And nate saint and those men were martyred and killed
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Were martyred and killed trying to take the gospel.
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These places in my journey
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These places in my journey in my life that were
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These places in my journey in my life that were very much the real world
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In my life that were very much the real world of brokenness and pain.
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Very much the real world of brokenness and pain. and yet, in those places
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Of brokenness and pain. and yet, in those places see how incredibly
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And yet, in those places see how incredibly god had shown up
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See how incredibly god had shown up in such a profound way.
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God had shown up in such a profound way. i feel like my journey
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In such a profound way. i feel like my journey has kind of been that.
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I feel like my journey has kind of been that. it's been one foot in both
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Has kind of been that. it's been one foot in both this very broken real world
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It's been one foot in both this very broken real world but longing for heaven
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This very broken real world but longing for heaven and trying to use the gifts
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But longing for heaven and trying to use the gifts that god's given me to point
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And trying to use the gifts that god's given me to point people in that direction,
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That god's given me to point people in that direction, to share my journey, realizing
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People in that direction, to share my journey, realizing that there is a whole lot
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To share my journey, realizing that there is a whole lot that's really unfixable.
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That there is a whole lot that's really unfixable. i wanted to call the book
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That's really unfixable. i wanted to call the book unfixable, actually when
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I wanted to call the book unfixable, actually when i started because i feel
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Unfixable, actually when i started because i feel like so much of my story
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I started because i feel like so much of my story i began to realize, even as
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Like so much of my story i began to realize, even as i was born into my family,
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I began to realize, even as i was born into my family, my mom and dad were at
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I was born into my family, my mom and dad were at a place and i share a lot
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My mom and dad were at a place and i share a lot about this, to really --
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A place and i share a lot about this, to really -- about to decide to give up
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About this, to really -- about to decide to give up on their marriage.
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About to decide to give up on their marriage. it was just not working
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On their marriage. it was just not working and my older brother was born
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It was just not working and my older brother was born and they made this really
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And my older brother was born and they made this really strange decision to either,
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And they made this really strange decision to either, they said, "i think we should
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Strange decision to either, they said, "i think we should either get a divorce
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They said, "i think we should either get a divorce or what if we have
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Either get a divorce or what if we have another child?
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Or what if we have another child? and maybe that will
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Another child? and maybe that will help fix this."
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And maybe that will help fix this." james: you were that fix?
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Help fix this." james: you were that fix? steven: i was born
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James: you were that fix? steven: i was born into that situation.
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Steven: i was born into that situation. i kind of came riding in.
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Into that situation. i kind of came riding in. literally! and obviously,
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I kind of came riding in. literally! and obviously, that's very much
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Literally! and obviously, that's very much a double-edged sword because
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That's very much a double-edged sword because i would realize throughout
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A double-edged sword because i would realize throughout my life that a whole lot
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I would realize throughout my life that a whole lot of my struggles have been
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My life that a whole lot of my struggles have been trying to fix everything
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Of my struggles have been trying to fix everything that's broken in the world
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Trying to fix everything that's broken in the world and having to constantly
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That's broken in the world and having to constantly realize that only god
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And having to constantly realize that only god can do that.
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Realize that only god can do that. as i have gone on
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Can do that. as i have gone on in my journey, ultimately
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As i have gone on in my journey, ultimately and we were together talking
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In my journey, ultimately and we were together talking about this, the last time
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And we were together talking about this, the last time we were together,
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About this, the last time we were together, and you guys since we were
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We were together, and you guys since we were together have walked
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And you guys since we were together have walked this road as well with
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Together have walked this road as well with the ultimate unfixable
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This road as well with the ultimate unfixable in my life and the ultimate
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The ultimate unfixable in my life and the ultimate place of having to trust god
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In my life and the ultimate place of having to trust god with brokenness was losing
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Place of having to trust god with brokenness was losing our little girl maria
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With brokenness was losing our little girl maria and how that, as well as
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Our little girl maria and how that, as well as many other chapters
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And how that, as well as many other chapters in my personal story
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Many other chapters in my personal story have brought me to a place
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In my personal story have brought me to a place to realize that the most
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Have brought me to a place to realize that the most profound places that
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To realize that the most profound places that god's shown up in my life
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Profound places that god's shown up in my life have been those places where
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God's shown up in my life have been those places where i can't fix it and i have to
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Have been those places where i can't fix it and i have to -- it's almost like
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I can't fix it and i have to -- it's almost like my pastor says we don't really
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-- it's almost like my pastor says we don't really ever cry abba father until
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My pastor says we don't really ever cry abba father until we first cry "uncle!"
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Ever cry abba father until we first cry "uncle!" until we're at a point
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We first cry "uncle!" until we're at a point where we have to just say,
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Until we're at a point where we have to just say, "god, i give up.
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Where we have to just say, "god, i give up. i can't do this.
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"god, i give up. i can't do this. i need you."
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I can't do this. i need you." but it was standing
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I need you." but it was standing in vanderbilt hospital,
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But it was standing in vanderbilt hospital, having heard the news
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In vanderbilt hospital, having heard the news that our little girl had gone
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Having heard the news that our little girl had gone to be with jesus.
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That our little girl had gone to be with jesus. and i never really shared this
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To be with jesus. and i never really shared this and i share in detail
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And i never really shared this and i share in detail in the book of that experience
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And i share in detail in the book of that experience of standing in the most...
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In the book of that experience of standing in the most... darkest place i would have
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Of standing in the most... darkest place i would have never even imagined standing,
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Darkest place i would have never even imagined standing, with my wife with me,
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My little girl started
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My little girl started breathing again.
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Breathing again. that's when i went in.
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That's when i went in. i knew the news was probably
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I knew the news was probably not going to be good.
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Not going to be good. i was determined to go in
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I was determined to go in and pray until they dragged me
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I'm not leaving until
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I'm not leaving until god gives our little girl
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I'm not leaving until god gives our little girl back to us.
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God gives our little girl back to us. and as my wife put her hand
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Back to us. and as my wife put her hand on my back and said,
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And as my wife put her hand on my back and said, "sweetheart," just whispered
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On my back and said, "sweetheart," just whispered to me that "i think
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"sweetheart," just whispered to me that "i think she is with jesus and
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To me that "i think she is with jesus and we need to let her go."
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She is with jesus and we need to let her go." as clearly as we're sitting
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We need to let her go." as clearly as we're sitting here talking right now,
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As clearly as we're sitting here talking right now, i was standing at
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Here talking right now, i was standing at the door of eternity.
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I was standing at the door of eternity. it is absolutely real
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The door of eternity. it is absolutely real and i even spoke to all
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It is absolutely real and i even spoke to all the doctors, and not because
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And i even spoke to all the doctors, and not because i felt like it was a moment
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The doctors, and not because i felt like it was a moment for me to make a statement
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I felt like it was a moment for me to make a statement or be a strong christian,
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For me to make a statement or be a strong christian, it was the first thing
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Or be a strong christian, it was the first thing that came out of me was,
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It was the first thing that came out of me was, "you stand here often
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That came out of me was, "you stand here often as doctors and surgeons and
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"you stand here often as doctors and surgeons and people who experience this,
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As doctors and surgeons and people who experience this, and i hope you don't miss
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People who experience this, and i hope you don't miss the reality of where
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And i hope you don't miss the reality of where you're standing.
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The reality of where you're standing. we're standing at
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You're standing. we're standing at the threshold, the door
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We're standing at the threshold, the door of heaven, eternity.
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The threshold, the door of heaven, eternity. it's what we were
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Of heaven, eternity. it's what we were all made for, it's what
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It's what we were all made for, it's what god created us for.
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All made for, it's what god created us for. we're all going to stand
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God created us for. we're all going to stand at this place and my hope
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We're all going to stand at this place and my hope is that you would know
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At this place and my hope is that you would know the one who gives me and
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Is that you would know the one who gives me and my wife hope to know that
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The one who gives me and my wife hope to know that this story is not over yet.
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My wife hope to know that this story is not over yet. the story is not over yet."
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A child or a loved one like
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A child or a loved one like that, it does make heaven
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That, it does make heaven more precious to you.
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More precious to you. but i feel like at the
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But i feel like at the same time god says,
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Same time god says, "i want to bring heaven
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As an example.
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As an example. you're my child and as
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As an example. you're my child and as a charge to you as my child,
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You're my child and as a charge to you as my child, i want heaven to live in you
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A charge to you as my child, i want heaven to live in you that it might flow over
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I want heaven to live in you that it might flow over to others so that they will
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That it might flow over to others so that they will receive jesus themselves."
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To others so that they will receive jesus themselves." james: wow!
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Receive jesus themselves." james: wow! well, tell us about the song
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James: wow! well, tell us about the song you're going to sing.
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Well, tell us about the song you're going to sing. steven: well, i've written
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You're going to sing. steven: well, i've written a lot of them over the years
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Steven: well, i've written a lot of them over the years but a lot of people have
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A lot of them over the years but a lot of people have asked me over the years,
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But a lot of people have asked me over the years, "what's your favorite song?"
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Asked me over the years, "what's your favorite song?" that's a common question.
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"what's your favorite song?" that's a common question. i really can't answer that
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That's a common question. i really can't answer that because they come from
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I really can't answer that because they come from all the different little
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Because they come from all the different little moments and chapters.
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All the different little moments and chapters. my family and my precious
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Moments and chapters. my family and my precious bride, mary beth, who by
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My family and my precious bride, mary beth, who by the grace of god, we're
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Bride, mary beth, who by the grace of god, we're 32 years and going strong.
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The grace of god, we're 32 years and going strong. but there is one song
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32 years and going strong. but there is one song that i've always said well,
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But there is one song that i've always said well, i'll put it like this.
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That i've always said well, i'll put it like this. if i had just enough breath
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I'll put it like this. if i had just enough breath left in my lungs,
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If i had just enough breath left in my lungs, if i was told, okay you can
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Left in my lungs, if i was told, okay you can sing one more song; of all
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If i was told, okay you can sing one more song; of all the ones you've written,
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Sing one more song; of all the ones you've written, what would it be?
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The ones you've written, what would it be? it's a song immediately
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What would it be? it's a song immediately i could answer that with
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It's a song immediately i could answer that with a song that i wrote,
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I could answer that with a song that i wrote, it was on my very first album
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A song that i wrote, it was on my very first album interestingly enough,
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It was on my very first album interestingly enough, and it's just carried
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Interestingly enough, and it's just carried all through the years
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And it's just carried all through the years that just simply says:
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All through the years that just simply says: my redeemer is faithful
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That just simply says: my redeemer is faithful and true.
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My redeemer is faithful and true. james: y'all want to hear him
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And true. james: y'all want to hear him sing that about
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James: y'all want to hear him sing that about the faithful and true?
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♪ as i look back on this road i've travelled ♪
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♪ i see so many times he's carried me through ♪
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♪ and if there's one thing that i've learned in my life ♪
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♪ my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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♪ my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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♪ and everything he has said he will do ♪
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♪ and every morning his mercies are new ♪
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♪ my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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♪ my heart rejoices when i read the promise ♪
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♪ that there's a place that i'm preparing for you ♪
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♪ i know some day i'll see my lord face to face ♪
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♪ 'cause my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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♪ my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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♪ and everything he has said he will do ♪
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♪ and every morning his mercies are new ♪
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♪ my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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♪ and in every situation he's proved his love for me ♪
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♪ when i lack the understanding ♪
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♪ he gives more grace to me ♪
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♪ my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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♪ and everything he has said he will do ♪
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♪ and every morning his mercies are new ♪
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♪ my redeemer is faithful and true ♪
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♪ jesus is faithful and true ♪
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[cheers and applause]
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James: how true.
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James: how true. absolute truth!
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James: how true. absolute truth! i think that this is just
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Absolute truth! i think that this is just phenomenal; your story is.
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I think that this is just phenomenal; your story is. what do you want to happen?
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Phenomenal; your story is. what do you want to happen? if you could say a simple
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What do you want to happen? if you could say a simple thing, people get the book,
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And you can get it online,
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And you can get it online, you can get it in
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And you can get it online, you can get it in the bookstores now --
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You can get it in the bookstores now -- go get it --
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The bookstores now -- go get it -- what do you hope happens
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Steven: well, my life has
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Steven: well, my life has been marked -- my life
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Been marked -- my life of faith has been marked
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The stories of followers
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The stories of followers of jesus, scripture
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The stories of followers of jesus, scripture throughout and i'm so thankful
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Of jesus, scripture throughout and i'm so thankful that god didn't edit out
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Throughout and i'm so thankful that god didn't edit out the messy parts
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That god didn't edit out the messy parts and the ugly parts,
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The messy parts and the ugly parts, the man after god's own heart,
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And the ugly parts, the man after god's own heart, david that's a scoundrel
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The man after god's own heart, david that's a scoundrel -- you read through the story
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David that's a scoundrel -- you read through the story and there's so much hope
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-- you read through the story and there's so much hope in that and i'm so thankful
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And there's so much hope in that and i'm so thankful god didn't --
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In that and i'm so thankful god didn't -- well, we're going to edit out
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God didn't -- well, we're going to edit out those parts so you only get
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Well, we're going to edit out those parts so you only get to see the glowing moments.
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Those parts so you only get to see the glowing moments. my hope in sharing this story,
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To see the glowing moments. my hope in sharing this story, because i wrestled a lot
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My hope in sharing this story, because i wrestled a lot with it because i would think,
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Because i wrestled a lot with it because i would think, well, how would i want
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With it because i would think, well, how would i want to invite people into this
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Well, how would i want to invite people into this and ask them to take
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To invite people into this and ask them to take the time to sit down and
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And ask them to take the time to sit down and read this if i'm just going
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The time to sit down and read this if i'm just going to tell them some stories?
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To take that journey?
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To take that journey? it's because step after step
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It's because step after step god has proven that he is
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And with me.
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And with me. i wouldn't be sitting here
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And with me. i wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation,
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I wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation, there is no way i could sing
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Having this conversation, there is no way i could sing that song were it not
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There is no way i could sing that song were it not for the grace of god --
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That song were it not for the grace of god -- every breath, every step.
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For the grace of god -- every breath, every step. and hopefully, by taking
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Every breath, every step. and hopefully, by taking that journey, sharing those
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And hopefully, by taking that journey, sharing those amazing mountains beyond
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That journey, sharing those amazing mountains beyond anything i ever imagined,
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Amazing mountains beyond anything i ever imagined, that god does more than
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Anything i ever imagined, that god does more than we ask or imagine.
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That god does more than we ask or imagine. how does a kid from paducah,
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We ask or imagine. how does a kid from paducah, kentucky get to play
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How does a kid from paducah, kentucky get to play on the stage at carnegie hall
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Kentucky get to play on the stage at carnegie hall -- besides practice, practice,
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On the stage at carnegie hall -- besides practice, practice, practice, like the joke goes.
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-- besides practice, practice, practice, like the joke goes. but by the grace of god.
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Practice, like the joke goes. but by the grace of god. but then to walk through
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But by the grace of god. but then to walk through the darkest valleys and
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But then to walk through the darkest valleys and to be able to tell here's how
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The darkest valleys and to be able to tell here's how god carried me and
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To be able to tell here's how god carried me and carried my family and i.
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God carried me and carried my family and i. this is the only reason
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Carried my family and i. this is the only reason i could share this story.
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This is the only reason i could share this story. my hope is those watching,
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I could share this story. my hope is those watching, those that will read it
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My hope is those watching, those that will read it will find themselves in
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Those that will read it will find themselves in those pages and say, "if god
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Will find themselves in those pages and say, "if god is faithful in that part
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Those pages and say, "if god is faithful in that part of his story, then god can
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Is faithful in that part of his story, then god can be faithful in this chapter
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Of his story, then god can be faithful in this chapter of my story."
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Be faithful in this chapter of my story." james: you want to say thanks
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Of my story." james: you want to say thanks to god for the way
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James: you want to say thanks to god for the way he's worked through steven?
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To god for the way he's worked through steven? thanks for blessing us.
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He's worked through steven? thanks for blessing us. [applause]
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Thanks for blessing us. [applause] you really have blessed us.
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[applause] you really have blessed us. steven, we're going to do
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You really have blessed us. steven, we're going to do something that blesses people
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Steven, we're going to do something that blesses people beyond words.
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Something that blesses people beyond words. i don't hesitate
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Beyond words. i don't hesitate to ask you to help.
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I don't hesitate to ask you to help. let me show you what
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To ask you to help. let me show you what your availability to god
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Let me show you what your availability to god to become a miracle
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Your availability to god to become a miracle in somebody's life --
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To become a miracle in somebody's life -- you never thought you could be
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In somebody's life -- you never thought you could be like a new testament miracle.
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You never thought you could be like a new testament miracle. you can be.
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Like a new testament miracle. you can be. you can be the answer
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You can be. you can be the answer to many mothers' prayer
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Now, we've drilled,
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With your help,
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Thousands of wells.
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The wells still average $4800.
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Can you give a well?
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So we're asking god,
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God raise up people
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Who are able to drill a well
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And they'll take joy
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In doing it.
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Raise up people
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Who will give $1200
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And then pray,
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"god give us three more
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To join me"
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-- $2400 and pray one will.
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But here's what i want you
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To understand: $48, betty,
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Has been the main gift
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That comes in to drill wells.
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Which drills water wells
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To take care
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Of ten people for $48 --
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$144 -- 30.
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So there is a level
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At which everyone watching
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Can participate.
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And you can be the answer
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To a mother's prayer,
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Her heart cry,
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To a healthy future
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For her children.
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Right now go on the website,
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Take your bankcard,
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Use it like a check.
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You should always
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Use them that way.
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Or you can dial the number.
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Many people are calling in
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Right now to pray.
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While they're calling,
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You can call and be
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An answer to prayer.
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Here's the gift
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And tell us what
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You're putting in the mail.
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If you write a check,
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Make it to life
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But let us know.
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Call and use your bankcard,
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Go on the website
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And use it.
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If you mail a check,
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Tell us what you're sending.
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We have some gifts for you
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That i believe will be
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A tremendous blessing to you.
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Please now, make that call,
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Make that gift.
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Every day, thousands of lives are lost
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To waterborne disease,
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And nearly half of those are children
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Under the age of five.
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Through mission: water for life
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You can give mothers hope and children a future
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As we provide clean, life-giving water
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For thousands of children and their families
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Before it's too late.
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With your gift today, you can help drill
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And establish 350 water wells this year.
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Your gift of $24
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Will help provide clean water for five children.
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A gift of $48 will help provide for ten.
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And $144 will help provide
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Life-giving water for 30 people
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For a lifetime.
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With a gift of any amount,
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We'll send you, prayers for my physical health,
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A bible-based collection of 52 prayers designed
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To bring strength, healing, and renewal to every area of your body
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Covering a wide range of physical needs.
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This beautifully crafted book encourages
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Intimate conversations with god.
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With a gift of $100 or more,
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Are a practical and meaningful way
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To carry a reminder of god's strength
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And protection throughout your day.
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Finally, please consider a gift of $1200
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To help provide water for 250 people
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Or a gift of $4800
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To help sponsor a complete well,
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And request our inspiring bronze sculpture,
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"lion of judah."
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Please call, write, or make your gift online today!
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James: its sure joy to hold
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James: its sure joy to hold this up, this amazing story.
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James: its sure joy to hold this up, this amazing story. steven, both of our journeys
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This up, this amazing story. steven, both of our journeys have inspired other people
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Steven, both of our journeys have inspired other people to begin to live amazed.
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Have inspired other people to begin to live amazed. that's when jesus sent
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To begin to live amazed. that's when jesus sent another of the same kind,
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That's when jesus sent another of the same kind, you can all live amazed.
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Another of the same kind, you can all live amazed. "you can be full of me.
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You can all live amazed. "you can be full of me. the one you've had here
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"you can be full of me. the one you've had here in the body now lives in you."
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The one you've had here in the body now lives in you." you have no idea what
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In the body now lives in you." you have no idea what god can do with you.
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You have no idea what god can do with you. this story -- by the way,
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God can do with you. this story -- by the way, and this is big.
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This story -- by the way, and this is big. this is a big book.
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And this is big. this is a big book. i don't think your publisher's
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This is a big book. i don't think your publisher's giving it away.
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I don't think your publisher's giving it away. why don't you encourage
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Giving it away. why don't you encourage your friends to go get one
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Why don't you encourage your friends to go get one online or in the bookstores;
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Your friends to go get one online or in the bookstores; will you?
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Online or in the bookstores; will you? join me saying thanks to god
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Will you? join me saying thanks to god for steven curtis.
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Join me saying thanks to god for steven curtis. [applause]
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Kyle: fulfilling purpose
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Kyle: fulfilling purpose is a hot topic these days.
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Is a hot topic these days. you can find
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You can find countless books, sermons,
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Countless books, sermons, conferences, and courses
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Conferences, and courses that sell the steps to it.
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That god has specific plans
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That god has specific plans for specific people,
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That god has specific plans for specific people, it's also clear
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For specific people, it's also clear that god's plans
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It's also clear that god's plans are fulfilled naturally
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That god's plans are fulfilled naturally as someone remains true
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Are fulfilled naturally as someone remains true to themselves.
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As someone remains true to themselves. you see, our differences
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To themselves. you see, our differences orient us toward our purpose.
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You see, our differences orient us toward our purpose. plus, as the bible assures,
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Orient us toward our purpose. plus, as the bible assures, god directs our steps.
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Plus, as the bible assures, god directs our steps. this means that purpose
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God directs our steps. this means that purpose just happens.
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This means that purpose just happens. let me show you.
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Just happens. let me show you. first, your differences
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Let me show you. first, your differences lead you to others like you.
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First, your differences lead you to others like you. that's what happened
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Lead you to others like you. that's what happened with matthew.
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That's what happened with matthew. he was a jewish tax collector.
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With matthew. he was a jewish tax collector. and those two identities,
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He was a jewish tax collector. and those two identities, jewish and tax collector,
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And those two identities, jewish and tax collector, weren't supposed
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Jewish and tax collector, weren't supposed to go together.
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Weren't supposed to go together. to be one was to be
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To go together. to be one was to be a traitor and a cheater,
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To be one was to be a traitor and a cheater, a sinner of the highest order.
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A traitor and a cheater, a sinner of the highest order. matthew wasn't hiding
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A sinner of the highest order. matthew wasn't hiding his profession
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Matthew wasn't hiding his profession when jesus recruited him
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His profession when jesus recruited him to be one of his disciples.
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When jesus recruited him to be one of his disciples. no, he was in
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To be one of his disciples. no, he was in the middle of it.
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No, he was in the middle of it. but, what the religious saw
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The middle of it. but, what the religious saw as a scandal,
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But, what the religious saw as a scandal, jesus saw as an opportunity.
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As a scandal, jesus saw as an opportunity. now, i don't believe that god
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Jesus saw as an opportunity. now, i don't believe that god created matthew as a cheat,
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Now, i don't believe that god created matthew as a cheat, in the same way
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Created matthew as a cheat, in the same way i don't believe
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In the same way i don't believe that god creates anyone
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I don't believe that god creates anyone for any sinful profession.
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That god creates anyone for any sinful profession. but matthew is a great example
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For any sinful profession. but matthew is a great example of how god repurposes
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But matthew is a great example of how god repurposes someone's past
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Of how god repurposes someone's past to relate his goodness
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Someone's past to relate his goodness to others who have
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To relate his goodness to others who have a similar story.
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To others who have a similar story. that's the first of many ways
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A similar story. that's the first of many ways that god used him.
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That's the first of many ways that god used him. after being chosen,
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That god used him. after being chosen, matthew immediately
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After being chosen, matthew immediately invited jesus
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Matthew immediately invited jesus to a dinner party
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Invited jesus to a dinner party where many tax collectors
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To a dinner party where many tax collectors and sinners
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Where many tax collectors and sinners were introduced to him.
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And sinners were introduced to him. your story has the same power
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Were introduced to him. your story has the same power to introduce people
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Your story has the same power to introduce people to the loving goodness of god.
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To introduce people to the loving goodness of god. that's him working
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To the loving goodness of god. that's him working with human nature.
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That's him working with human nature. we naturally attract
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With human nature. we naturally attract and relate to others like us.
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We naturally attract and relate to others like us. your differences also
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And relate to others like us. your differences also have a way of taking you
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Your differences also have a way of taking you where god wants you.
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Have a way of taking you where god wants you. consider the apostle paul.
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Where god wants you. consider the apostle paul. zealous is how
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Consider the apostle paul. zealous is how he described himself.
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Zealous is how he described himself. after his dramatic conversion
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He described himself. after his dramatic conversion from persecutor to christian,
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After his dramatic conversion from persecutor to christian, his life changed profoundly.
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From persecutor to christian, his life changed profoundly. yes!
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His life changed profoundly. yes! his thinking changed.
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Yes! his thinking changed. his desires changed.
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His thinking changed. his desires changed. his attitude changed.
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His desires changed. his attitude changed. but his over-the-top
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His attitude changed. but his over-the-top personality didn't,
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But his over-the-top personality didn't, and for good reason.
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Personality didn't, and for good reason. part of it
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And for good reason. part of it was paul's stubbornness
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Part of it was paul's stubbornness that caused him to focus
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Was paul's stubbornness that caused him to focus his efforts on the gentiles
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That caused him to focus his efforts on the gentiles rather than the jews.
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How uniquely suited
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How uniquely suited he was to reach them
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He was to reach them all along.
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All along. you see,
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You see, as a mosaic law scholar
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As a mosaic law scholar who was classically
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Paul was gifted
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Paul was gifted to teach scripture in a way
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Paul was gifted to teach scripture in a way that greeks could understand.
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To teach scripture in a way that greeks could understand. his background also gave him
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That greeks could understand. his background also gave him roman citizenship
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His background also gave him roman citizenship which opened many doors
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Roman citizenship which opened many doors in that world.
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Which opened many doors in that world. so, do you see?
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In that world. so, do you see? god used every aspect
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So, do you see? god used every aspect of paul's life,
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God used every aspect of paul's life, even his rough edges,
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Of paul's life, even his rough edges, to accomplish
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Even his rough edges, to accomplish what he was born to do.
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To accomplish what he was born to do. god will do the same with you.
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What he was born to do. god will do the same with you. your personality,
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God will do the same with you. your personality, your pedigree,
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Your personality, your pedigree, your style, your story:
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Your pedigree, your style, your story: they all play a role
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Your style, your story: they all play a role in your plan.
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They all play a role in your plan. together they have
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In your plan. together they have a unique power to reflect god
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Together they have a unique power to reflect god to people who need to see him.
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A unique power to reflect god to people who need to see him. that's incredible purpose.
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To people who need to see him. that's incredible purpose. but i propose that there is
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That's incredible purpose. but i propose that there is at least one more way
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But i propose that there is at least one more way god might use
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At least one more way god might use your differences,
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God might use your differences, and that's to shock people.
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Your differences, and that's to shock people. allow me to explain:
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And that's to shock people. allow me to explain: religious people
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Allow me to explain: religious people tend to believe that they
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Religious people tend to believe that they have god figured out.
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Tend to believe that they have god figured out. many are so sure
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Have god figured out. many are so sure about who he'll use
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Many are so sure about who he'll use and who he won't:
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About who he'll use and who he won't: who's in and who's out.
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And who he won't: who's in and who's out. it seems that god
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Who's in and who's out. it seems that god enjoys shattering
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It seems that god enjoys shattering their expectations though.
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Enjoys shattering their expectations though. the apostle paul's
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Their expectations though. the apostle paul's young missionary partner,
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The apostle paul's young missionary partner, timothy,
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Young missionary partner, timothy, he's my favorite
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Timothy, he's my favorite example of this.
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He's my favorite example of this. do you know timothy's story?
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Example of this. do you know timothy's story? he helped paul reach
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Do you know timothy's story? he helped paul reach the gentiles in a huge way.
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He helped paul reach the gentiles in a huge way. yet, many would have
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The gentiles in a huge way. yet, many would have never considered him
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Yet, many would have never considered him qualified to do so,
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Never considered him qualified to do so, because of the way
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Qualified to do so, because of the way he was born.
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Because of the way he was born. his mother was jewish
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He was born. his mother was jewish and his father was greek,
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His mother was jewish and his father was greek, and that was a big no-no
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And his father was greek, and that was a big no-no in those days.
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And that was a big no-no in those days. religious rules barred him
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In those days. religious rules barred him from many things,
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Religious rules barred him from many things, like being educated
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From many things, like being educated with other jewish boys
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Like being educated with other jewish boys and participating
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With other jewish boys and participating in jewish festivals.
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And participating in jewish festivals. he was different.
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In jewish festivals. he was different. human wisdom
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He was different. human wisdom would have suggested
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Human wisdom would have suggested a more mainstream candidate
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Would have suggested a more mainstream candidate to help paul.
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A more mainstream candidate to help paul. but god had a different idea.
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To help paul. but god had a different idea. at a time when people
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But god had a different idea. at a time when people were still arguing over food
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At a time when people were still arguing over food and ceremonial laws,
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Were still arguing over food and ceremonial laws, god chose someone
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And ceremonial laws, god chose someone whose very existence
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God chose someone whose very existence broke their rules.
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Whose very existence broke their rules. god used timothy
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Broke their rules. god used timothy to advance the church.
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God used timothy to advance the church. friend, your differences
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To advance the church. friend, your differences could be part of god's plan
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Friend, your differences could be part of god's plan to do the same today.
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Could be part of god's plan to do the same today. consider that you are molded
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To do the same today. consider that you are molded to break a mold.
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Consider that you are molded to break a mold. maybe, just maybe,
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To break a mold. maybe, just maybe, your life was meant
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Maybe, just maybe, your life was meant to express how god chooses
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Your life was meant to express how god chooses and uses people
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To express how god chooses and uses people that people never think
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And uses people that people never think he would.
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That people never think he would. that's huge purpose.
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He would. that's huge purpose. whatever the case,
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That's huge purpose. whatever the case, this is certain,
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Whatever the case, this is certain, you were designed
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This is certain, you were designed to be different.
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You were designed to be different. embrace that.
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To be different. embrace that. being your authentic,
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Embrace that. being your authentic, god-made self
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God-made self naturally takes you where striving never could.
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Into the likeness of the body of jesus christ.
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So on the way up, we're going to be changed.
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Steven Curtis Chapman - Faithful And True

July 11, 2025 | S25 E182 | 29:15

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