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Touré Roberts - End The Uncertainty

April 30, 2026 | 27:29

Touré Roberts - End The Uncertainty
The Potter's House pastor and author of "Knowing" explains how we can move beyond opinion to a place of confident trust.
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Life Today with James Robison | Touré Roberts - End The Uncertainty | April 30, 2026
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  • Male announcer: the following program is sponsored by friends
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  • Of life outreach international and the friends
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  • Touré roberts: there were moments of my journey where, if
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  • I would have just defined my life and what was possible in
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  • That moment, i wouldn't be here today.
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  • And if we do not give up before we grow up, we will be blown
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  • Away at how the potter can shape what was a mess into
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  • A masterpiece.
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  • Announcer: finding certainty in an uncertain world, next.
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  • [music]
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  • Randy robison: welcome to "life today."
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  • I'm randy robison.
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  • Blynda lane is with me.
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  • Blynda lane: i'm back, i'm with you.
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  • Randy: are you sure?
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  • Are you certain?
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  • You wanna be here?
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  • Are you certain you wanna be here?
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  • Blynda: i know.
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  • I know that i wanna be here.
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  • Randy: are you supposed to be here?
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  • We're joking, but you know, i feel like that a lot in my life.
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  • I'm like, "i thought this was," you know, just uncertainty,
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  • And it can be a little crazy at times.
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  • Blynda: it can be.
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  • So that's why i'm so excited about who we have today, because
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  • Touré roberts has written a book called "knowing" and what i love
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  • Is the subtitle "the journey to certainty in an
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  • Uncertain world."
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  • Randy: that's it.
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  • Blynda: touré, thank you so much for being with us today and for
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  • Helping us, because we all live in an uncertain world.
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  • We want to hear your perspective on, what was the reason behind
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  • Writing a book called "knowing?"
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  • Touré: thank you.
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  • Well, first of all, it's an honor to be here.
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  • I love "life today."
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  • I love you both.
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  • I love your family.
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  • This is just a blessing.
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  • So thank you for having me.
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  • But i was concerned because the world is getting more and
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  • More uncertain.
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  • There is unrest and instability, from economic instability to,
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  • You know, divide in america and abroad.
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  • All over the world we're seeing tensions.
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  • And i, you know, we are believers, and as believers, we
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  • Go through things that everybody else goes through, but god
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  • Expects us to go through them differently.
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  • It's kind of like what it talks about in thessalonians, how we
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  • Sorrow, but we don't sorrow as those who have no hope.
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  • And i felt that this moment of uncertainty, this moment of
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  • Chaos, in a lot of--with respect to a lot of things, is actually
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  • An opportunity to show the world how we can be stable even when
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  • Things are unstable.
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  • I used to be shaken in shaky times, until i discovered some
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  • Things, until i realized that in the midst of it all, god's got a
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  • Plan, and to align with that plan and have peace while we're
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  • Walking it out.
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  • And so, i'm excited about the book.
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  • I think it's gonna help a lot of people.
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  • Randy: it's interesting, you know, i'm one of those guys
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  • That, you know, stuff can be going on, chaos, and people can
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  • Be worried, and i'm usually pretty chill.
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  • I'm usually like i'm good, right?
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  • But when the uncertainty really hits home, family member or
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  • Personal finances, that's when i start, "aah, i don't know what
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  • To do."
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  • And my tendency is a little bit of, you know, what you call a
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  • Paralysis of uncertainty.
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  • Is that you, or is that just people you know?
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  • You've seen that one?
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  • Touré: no, i've seen it, i've lived it, i've been that
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  • Character in the story that you just illustrated.
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  • And the issue is, if we just take a moment and look back, if
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  • We take a moment and really check the track record and the
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  • Consistency of god meeting us, not in moments where we knew
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  • What the outcome was gonna be, but moments when we didn't know.
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  • It's like, you know, we'll have all this history with god, you
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  • Know, he brought us over this and brought us through that, and
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  • Then all of a sudden this new experience comes up, and now,
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  • All of a sudden, we forget that god is--
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  • Blynda: is he gonna be faithful?
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  • Touré: right, and i'm like, wait, we should have more faith
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  • In god being consistent than him being inconsistent by not seeing
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  • Us through.
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  • And so what it produces, it should produce, is a knowing.
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  • And that knowing settles you.
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  • We're not--i think you have to go beyond being a believer.
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  • I think that we have to move from being a believer
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  • To knowers.
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  • I think one of the greatest tricks of the enemy is to force
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  • Us to make it our business to ensure that we're okay,
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  • You know?
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  • Blynda: like, take control.
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  • Touré: oh yeah, oh yeah.
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  • Like it's our job to figure it out or to work it out, because
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  • If he can get us to expend all of our time, attention, and
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  • Effort trying to make it through, when first of all,
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  • That's god's job.
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  • That's god's business.
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  • Then he can distract us from purpose, from advancing the
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  • Kingdom, from preaching the gospel, from stretching
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  • Ourselves and stretching our hands out to others, because we
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  • Are preoccupied with taking care of ourselves.
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  • Blynda: okay, so you talk about that you felt a little bit like
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  • An impostor because you were guiding others to a deeper sense
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  • Of knowing, but you had your own unraveling happening.
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  • So how did just your own personal kind of spiritual
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  • Crisis help give you the solid foundation that you walk
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  • In today?
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  • Because you and your wife, you're co-pastoring the potter's
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  • House in dallas, so here you are today, you know, leading others.
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  • But that wasn't always the story.
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  • Touré: oh yeah, well, when i sat down to write this book that i
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  • Was extremely passionate about, and i get real vulnerable in the
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  • First chapter, i didn't feel certain in the midst
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  • Of uncertainty.
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  • There was a lot going on in my life.
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  • You know, writing a book is never easy, and, you know, i was
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  • Getting ready to assume the leadership of a congregation led
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  • By, arguably, one of the most prolific preachers in the world.
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  • And all of a sudden here, mr. knowing, mr. encourage the world
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  • With a book about being certain, felt very uncertain.
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  • And so in that chapter in particular, where i talk about
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  • That, i talk about the cocoon and i talk about how life is a
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  • Cocoon, you know?
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  • And if a cocoon could talk, the cocoon would say, one, this is
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  • Temporary, you know.
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  • Don't--this is not going to be--you're in a process.
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  • But let me tell you something, when you're going through
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  • Something, it doesn't feel like a process, it just feels
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  • Like pain.
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  • It feels like--
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  • Blynda: it's gonna be around forever.
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  • Touré: yes, you know?
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  • And so you gotta remember, "no, wait.
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  • Wait, hold on.
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  • This is a cocoon."
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  • So it's temporary, one, you're actually safe there.
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  • You never see a caterpillar, if we might borrow that metaphor,
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  • You never see a caterpillar that's unsafe.
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  • They're uncomfortable, but they're not unsafe, right?
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  • They're in a process, you know.
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  • And so just knowing those things, "this is temporary,
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  • I'm safe."
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  • And then, "it'll be worth it."
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  • You know, this is my hope.
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  • You know, when it gets--when life hits me hard, and life
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  • Does, you know.
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  • None of us are exempt.
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  • None of us get to escape life's rod, if you would.
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  • When life gets hard, i remember that if it's this hard, who am i
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  • Gonna be when i come out of this, you know?
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  • I think that the journey that god has us on, the journey of
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  • Transformation, we go from glory to glory and strength
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  • To strength.
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  • The challenge is commensurate with the outcome.
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  • So i could either sit there and say, "man, this is hard," and
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  • Sometimes, maybe i do.
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  • But when i get to my proper thinking, i say, "oh, it's gonna
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  • Be good," and the version of me that will emerge is equipped for
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  • The life that god has for me.
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  • Randy: yeah, it sounds like that scripture that says, "count it
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  • All joy when you face these various trials, knowing that it
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  • Will produce endurance."
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  • You go, "okay, i'm going through it right now."
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  • So, okay, so here's my question, because there's probably
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  • Somebody watching right now, you know who you are, and you're
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  • Like, "man, i'm like the most uncertain person in the world,"
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  • Or "i'm going through this time of uncertainty and i feel like
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  • I'm a failure," or "i don't know what to do," or "god has
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  • Abandoned me."
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  • But you're saying, no, this is a time of transformation.
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  • Touré: oh, yeah.
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  • Randy: what would you say directly to that person who is
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  • Feeling all of those uncertain feelings?
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  • Touré: oh yeah, first of all, i'd say, i get it.
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  • You know, life can--you know, sometimes life can flat out
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  • Hurt, and i really mean that, you know, and so i don't want to
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  • Be insensitive to what they're going through.
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  • I get it.
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  • What's better is the lord gets it.
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  • Scripture says it, you know, that we do not experience
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  • Anything that the lord can't identify with in all those
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  • Same ways.
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  • James said, "count it all joy when you go through
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  • Various temptations."
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  • Joy and happiness are not the same thing.
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  • Joy is a little bit more deep-rooted, but guess what joy
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  • Is based on?
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  • It says "knowing this," knowing.
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  • Back to knowing.
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  • That's the--knowing is the equalizer.
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  • Knowing is the lens, the film through which we look.
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  • I know something.
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  • I know that this is working.
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  • I feel it.
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  • It's heavy, it's laborious, it's dark, but there's something
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  • At work.
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  • Know again, "for we know that all things work together
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  • For good."
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  • So we have to trust god's heart when we can't see his hand.
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  • Blynda: you say in the book that the essence of knowing is
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  • Walking with god.
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  • And when i think about the person watching today and here,
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  • They're so encouraged by what you're saying.
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  • What does that look like though to walk out with god, every day,
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  • This knowing?
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  • Touré: i think it is to--to first of all, begin with
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  • Believing in god.
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  • There's a passage in hebrews that says that, "he who comes to
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  • God must believe that he is," and then it says that,
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  • Secondarily, "and he's a rewarder to those who diligently
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  • Seek him."
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  • God is, you know.
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  • We have to start there.
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  • And listen, god knows, if you hang out with me long enough,
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  • You're gonna say like david, in the process of time, "i've been
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  • Young, but now i'm old, and never have i seen the righteous
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  • Forsaken, nor his seed begging bread."
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  • So i think that walking with god is about trusting god, is about,
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  • You know, baby steps, if you must.
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  • But it's worth it, and he will never leave you, he will never
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  • Forsake you, and it's just a wonderful--i can't imagine doing
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  • Life without god.
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  • I can't even imagine it.
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  • Randy: so for the people that think, you know, man, these
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  • People on tv are up here, you know, they got it all
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  • Figured out.
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  • All these things that we go, no, god just wants you to bring what
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  • Little you've got, and he illustrated that by feeding
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  • Thousands of people with just very little brought by a boy,
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  • You know?
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  • And you go, okay, so wherever you're at right now, just bring
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  • It to god, and then you will start to go, "i know," because
  • 00:11:28.210 --> 00:11:33.816
  • You'll start to see it in your own life.
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  • That's the only way you're really gonna know.
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  • And by the way, if you wanna pray with somebody, you can call
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  • That number right now and somebody will just pray
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  • With you.
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  • They'll just walk alongside you a little bit.
  • 00:11:42.458 --> 00:11:44.894
  • But the idea here is that you get to that point that touré is
  • 00:11:44.894 --> 00:11:48.197
  • Talking about where you really know some things, and you're
  • 00:11:48.197 --> 00:11:50.699
  • Gonna have to do it by actually experiencing them.
  • 00:11:50.699 --> 00:11:54.270
  • Now, i gotta ask you this, touré.
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  • I mean, you--obviously, you grew up in the church and walking
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  • With jesus and all these things, right?
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  • Blynda: never made a mistake.
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  • Randy: your background's a little rough at times.
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  • Touré: yeah, it's quite colorful in certain places.
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  • As i look back over my life, i realize that god knew some
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  • Things about me that i did not know.
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  • And so there was an unfolding.
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  • There were moments on my journey where, if i would have just
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  • Defined my life and what was possible in that moment, i
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  • Wouldn't be here today.
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  • If i would have just stopped right there, you know, and--but
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  • My life was unfolding, and i think that that's important for
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  • People to understand.
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  • If you're breathing right now, if you're taking in air, that
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  • Means that your life is still unfolding.
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  • And god is a master, he is an absolute master, at taking
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  • Something that looks like nothing, or looks like little,
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  • Or looks irredeemable, and turning it into not just
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  • Something that's okay, but a masterpiece, i believe that in
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  • God's plan, and what god knew about us before he put us in our
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  • Mother's womb, i believe in that plan is a masterpiece.
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  • And if we do not give up before we grow up, if we do not give up
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  • Before the unfolding takes place, we will be blown away at
  • 00:13:25.461 --> 00:13:29.832
  • How the potter can shape what was a mess into a masterpiece.
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  • Randy: so true.
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  • Blynda: it's so amazing to think about sometimes, when our life
  • 00:13:37.072 --> 00:13:39.541
  • Falls to pieces, when everything is torn down, it's actually the
  • 00:13:39.541 --> 00:13:42.678
  • Greatest opportunity for god to build it back up into something
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  • Better than we could have ever imagined.
  • 00:13:46.448 --> 00:13:48.517
  • But i think some of us get--i mean, thinking about living that
  • 00:13:48.517 --> 00:13:51.387
  • Way feels like such freedom, but a lot of us, when we have caused
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  • Our own crumbling, in a way, we get stuck there thinking, you
  • 00:13:55.391 --> 00:14:01.297
  • Know, "i can't forgive myself, how can god forgive me?
  • 00:14:01.297 --> 00:14:03.666
  • How can i ever?"
  • 00:14:03.666 --> 00:14:05.000
  • So what would you say to the person who feels like where they
  • 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:08.003
  • Are today is maybe of their own doing, they're in a tough place.
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  • Where's the hope there for them?
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  • Touré: well, a couple of things.
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  • One is it may be of their doing, but god knew it.
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  • So whatever you did, you're unraveling your self-destructive
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  • Behavior or decisions, yes, that was you, but god knew before he
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  • Put you in your mother's womb that you would make those
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  • Mistakes and yet still has a plan.
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  • He specializes in the mess.
  • 00:14:37.933 --> 00:14:40.502
  • So in life, sometimes we end up in pieces, but god knows how to
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  • Take those pieces.
  • 00:14:46.408 --> 00:14:48.277
  • And there's that japanese art form, the name escapes me, where
  • 00:14:48.277 --> 00:14:52.548
  • It's just these beautiful bowls that are made from the
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  • Broken pieces.
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  • I can't think of the name of it.
  • 00:14:56.785 --> 00:14:58.153
  • Somebody knows what it is.
  • 00:14:58.153 --> 00:14:59.488
  • But it's--and what makes this thing valuable is that they took
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  • Those broken pieces and put them back together again.
  • 00:15:04.226 --> 00:15:07.529
  • So you can see the cracks, but they're lined in gold.
  • 00:15:07.529 --> 00:15:10.399
  • And that's what makes it valuable.
  • 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:11.867
  • So there's some people right now, and listen, i can testify
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  • Personally, where life was really chaotic, but god has a
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  • Way to do it.
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  • And i will say this about not being able to forgive yourself.
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  • Believe it or not, it is pride to believe that you are more
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  • Righteous than god.
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  • Blynda: because he's the one that has forgiven you.
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  • Touré: come on, he's saying, "i've forgiven you."
  • 00:15:34.456 --> 00:15:38.027
  • So are you more righteous than god to hold on to yourself?
  • 00:15:38.027 --> 00:15:41.096
  • And then the last thing i'll say about that is, you know, when
  • 00:15:41.096 --> 00:15:43.499
  • You think about like regret, and i understand remorse, because
  • 00:15:43.499 --> 00:15:46.602
  • That leads to repentance.
  • 00:15:46.602 --> 00:15:47.970
  • But regret is something different, because regret is
  • 00:15:47.970 --> 00:15:50.472
  • Charging a former version of you, or rather, it's charging
  • 00:15:50.472 --> 00:15:55.577
  • The current you, regret is charging the current you, with
  • 00:15:55.577 --> 00:15:59.014
  • What a former version of you--that's not fair to you.
  • 00:15:59.014 --> 00:16:01.917
  • And so, you gotta let it go, and you've gotta trust god.
  • 00:16:01.917 --> 00:16:05.287
  • And don't think that you're more righteous than god by holding
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  • Yourself in a prison, when god said, "hey, you're free to me."
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  • Randy: yeah, if he can forgive us then maybe i ought to
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  • As well.
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  • Touré: i think it might be smart.
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  • Randy: last thing quickly i do wanna ask you about, because
  • 00:16:16.331 --> 00:16:20.169
  • This, i think it's a powerful thing.
  • 00:16:20.169 --> 00:16:21.637
  • You talk about knowing, seeing, and saying.
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  • And i understand that just saying words is not
  • 00:16:25.541 --> 00:16:30.145
  • Necessarily--it's not like some incantation or weird thing
  • 00:16:30.145 --> 00:16:32.781
  • Like that.
  • 00:16:32.781 --> 00:16:34.149
  • But when we understand, when we go through that process of
  • 00:16:34.149 --> 00:16:37.119
  • Knowing what god says and who we are in him, and then seeing it
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  • Playing out in our lives, there is something special about
  • 00:16:41.190 --> 00:16:46.328
  • Speaking it.
  • 00:16:46.328 --> 00:16:47.663
  • I mean, even salvation, it talks about the confession of
  • 00:16:47.663 --> 00:16:50.365
  • Our mouths.
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  • What do you see as the power of the tongue?
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  • Touré: oh, it's everything.
  • 00:16:53.535 --> 00:16:54.937
  • And to your earlier point, you know, when god creates, he
  • 00:16:54.937 --> 00:16:58.707
  • Creates the words, you know?
  • 00:16:58.707 --> 00:17:00.209
  • "and god said, and then there was."
  • 00:17:00.209 --> 00:17:03.479
  • You know, hebrews 11 talks about how the world--the worlds were
  • 00:17:03.479 --> 00:17:09.084
  • Framed by the word of god.
  • 00:17:09.084 --> 00:17:11.687
  • And so when you--when god has spoken something to you and you
  • 00:17:11.687 --> 00:17:15.324
  • Have a knowing, and even if the knowing contradicts current
  • 00:17:15.324 --> 00:17:20.028
  • Situations and circumstances.
  • 00:17:20.028 --> 00:17:22.030
  • And so sometimes, you're looking at your situation and you're
  • 00:17:22.030 --> 00:17:25.167
  • Saying, "my circumstances are irredeemable, yeah, but god can
  • 00:17:25.167 --> 00:17:28.036
  • Create new circumstances," and that's the power of the tongue.
  • 00:17:28.036 --> 00:17:30.873
  • And so, saying proves that you really believe, because it's one
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  • Thing to think it and inside you know it, but when you have to
  • 00:17:35.410 --> 00:17:37.646
  • Formulate the words--
  • 00:17:37.646 --> 00:17:39.314
  • Blynda: and be held accountable to those words.
  • 00:17:39.314 --> 00:17:41.049
  • Touré: there you go, and be held--through community, through
  • 00:17:41.049 --> 00:17:43.418
  • Your friends, "hey, i'm--"
  • 00:17:43.418 --> 00:17:44.786
  • A lot of people don't wanna say something because if it doesn't
  • 00:17:44.786 --> 00:17:47.055
  • Happen, then they feel like a failure, whereas first of all,
  • 00:17:47.055 --> 00:17:49.191
  • Again, that's not your job.
  • 00:17:49.191 --> 00:17:50.893
  • Your job is not to bring it to pass.
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  • It's to believe what god said, and be so convinced, to have
  • 00:17:52.794 --> 00:17:56.899
  • Such a knowing about it, that you speak it, and then god
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  • Allows you to participate with what he has already preordained.
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  • Randy: that's it.
  • 00:18:03.639 --> 00:18:05.007
  • And you know what, it's gotta be--it's gotta be his words for
  • 00:18:05.007 --> 00:18:06.875
  • Our words to really have meaning, because i can say some
  • 00:18:06.875 --> 00:18:09.344
  • Dumb things, but when i--let me give you a good example, i'll
  • 00:18:09.344 --> 00:18:13.081
  • Give you a great example right now, for you guys that are
  • 00:18:13.081 --> 00:18:15.217
  • Watching, and i wanna invite you into this.
  • 00:18:15.217 --> 00:18:17.786
  • It says in scripture, god says, "when you're generous to the
  • 00:18:17.786 --> 00:18:21.757
  • Poor, you lend to god, and he will repay you."
  • 00:18:21.757 --> 00:18:27.563
  • So, blynda, we have an opportunity right now to be very
  • 00:18:27.563 --> 00:18:31.066
  • Generous to the poor through our mission outreaches, through
  • 00:18:31.066 --> 00:18:33.168
  • Mission feeding, and that's an interesting dynamic because you
  • 00:18:33.168 --> 00:18:36.939
  • Kind of enter into a contract that god's offering out of grace
  • 00:18:36.939 --> 00:18:40.475
  • To you, by the way, he doesn't owe anybody anything.
  • 00:18:40.475 --> 00:18:42.945
  • But he's saying, "i'm gonna repay you."
  • 00:18:42.945 --> 00:18:45.614
  • And once you know that--i know this, i've seen it, time and
  • 00:18:45.614 --> 00:18:48.116
  • Time again.
  • 00:18:48.116 --> 00:18:49.484
  • And so i can, with the confidence of touré's book
  • 00:18:49.484 --> 00:18:51.820
  • "knowing," i can tell you right now, if you will just step
  • 00:18:51.820 --> 00:18:55.357
  • Outside of yourself and just, out of obedience, be generous to
  • 00:18:55.357 --> 00:19:00.529
  • Some people in desperate need, god will find a way to
  • 00:19:00.529 --> 00:19:03.565
  • Bless you.
  • 00:19:03.565 --> 00:19:04.900
  • And it probably won't be monetarily, but he can do
  • 00:19:04.900 --> 00:19:07.236
  • Anything he wants.
  • 00:19:07.236 --> 00:19:08.604
  • I can tell you one thing.
  • 00:19:08.604 --> 00:19:09.938
  • We'll send you touré roberts's book, if you request it today.
  • 00:19:09.938 --> 00:19:12.441
  • But take a look, really, at this, and see, is there a way
  • 00:19:12.441 --> 00:19:16.511
  • That i can express god's love through generosity right now?
  • 00:19:16.511 --> 00:19:20.716
  • I would invite you into this.
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  • Watch this, and you'll understand.
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  • Randy: if we will remember all those children who are on the
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  • Edge of death, they're malnourished, they're hungry,
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  • And we will do something about it, we won't have to put another
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  • White cross into the sand.
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  • Let's not forget those for whom we were too late, but more
  • 00:20:47.769 --> 00:20:53.175
  • Importantly, let's not forget those who are within our reach.
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  • We can save lives.
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  • We can stop the cycle of death here, through mission feeding.
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  • Please do it today.
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  • And i can tell you, i've been there, i've seen it with my
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  • Mission feeding saves lives.
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  • Blynda: it's really an awesome book, and i just have really
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  • Jennifer rothschild: i was watching the news recently with
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  • My husband, and i don't remember what the show was about, but i
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  • And then he said this statement.
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  • He said, "well, i don't really care.
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  • I'm not that into longevity."
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  • And i just thought, that is such an unusual statement.
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  • I mean, let's be honest, most of us are really into longevity.
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  • We wanna live this life that god's given us, and we care
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  • About filling every day with purpose and living to the
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  • Fullest, but the more i contemplated what this man said,
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  • I realized that maybe the reason he wasn't that into longevity
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  • Was because he had a really clear view of eternity.
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  • You see, i know something about this man's story, and i knew he
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  • Was a believer in christ, and it made me examine my own story.
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  • I realized i don't need to be so focused on longevity if i'm very
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  • Clearly viewing eternity.
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  • Now, here's what i mean.
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  • We all start off in this life like this.
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  • It's a plum.
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  • We start off like this.
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  • Look, look how tight that skin is.
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  • I mean, this is plump, it's hydrated, it's young, it's
  • 00:25:12.701 --> 00:25:16.905
  • Beautiful, it's tasty, it's nutritious, it's all good.
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  • And we all start off like this, but the more life we live, the
  • 00:25:20.308 --> 00:25:24.279
  • More age we accumulate, the more time we spend here on planet
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  • Earth, do you know what happens to this plum?
  • 00:25:28.416 --> 00:25:31.319
  • It looks a little more like this, a prune.
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  • It gets dehydrated, it gets wrinkled, and no matter what,
  • 00:25:36.257 --> 00:25:40.195
  • Eventually this plum is gonna end up like this prune.
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  • And you know what?
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  • That's okay, because ecclesiastes chapter 3 tells us
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  • That we were made for eternity, and god makes all things
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  • Beautiful in its time.
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  • So, my friend, if you're feeling the--just the weight of life, if
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  • You're feeling how maybe just the calendar pages are turning
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  • So quickly and you feel like time is passing you by and
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  • You're not quite as young as you used to be, it's okay, because
  • 00:26:12.394 --> 00:26:17.966
  • You were made for far more than longevity.
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  • You were made for eternity, so let's keep our eyes fixed on
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  • Heaven, our forever home, where we will know as
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  • We have been known.
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  • And then can i just be honest with you?
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  • If you feel more like this prune than this plum, then just know,
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  • God really has made everything beautiful in its time, and you
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  • Are made for far more than time.
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  • You're made for eternity.
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  • It's so sticky.
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  • Shannon bream: if you are struggling, i get it.
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  • I've been in very, very dark places.
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  • And all i can tell you is that god is working.
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  • Announcer: shannon bream, next week.
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