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Lifting Up Texas

Lifting Up Texas

July 7, 2025 | 56:56

Lifting Up Texas
Join Sheila Walsh & special guests for a time of prayer & updates on recovery efforts from the flash flooding that took parts of Texas by storm this past weekend.
#News #Media #NaturalDisaster #DisasterRelief #Tragedy #Grief #Loss #Family #Help #CommunityOutreach #Compassion #Prayer #Faith

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Lifting Up Texas | Lifting Up Texas | July 7, 2025
  • We come to you tonight with heavy hearts, with everything
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  • That has happened in the texas hill country. we are grieving
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  • With those families tonight,
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  • Several times during the program. i will give you the
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  • Number for samaritan's purse, who are literally even as we are
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  • On the air, heading to kerrville to do what they can, as they
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  • Always do in a crisis. from what we know at the moment, over 100
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  • Lives have been lost, so many of them from camp mystic, from
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  • Little girls, 27 of them from camp mystic, a beloved christian
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  • All girls camp in kerr county where the worst of the flooding
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  • Broke out. at least ten girls and a counselor remain missing.
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  • From what we can tell, the river rose, 26ft in less than one
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  • Hour, which is hard to even comprehend how such a thing
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  • Would be possible. i tried to do a little research today, and
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  • This is what meteorology meteorologists were saying, that
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  • There were three factors at play here. the warm water of the gulf
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  • Fueled that moist atmosphere, and even more moisture came from
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  • The area over the pacific ocean to the west. and then there were
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  • Remnants of tropical storm barry also lingering in texas, because
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  • The jet stream, which is a current of air that moves
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  • Weather in weather patterns, was simply not there to push it. but
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  • What we saw, what you saw on your television screen, and what
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  • We're showing you now, is the aftermath of something that is
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  • Absolutely devastating. i can't imagine what it was like for
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  • Those little girls, you know, seven, eight years old, so
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  • Excited to be at this wonderful camp. camp mystic is a place
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  • That is beloved in texas hill country. it's a place where
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  • Generations of families go and spend the summer learning to
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  • Canoe, learning to fish, being together, the whole prayer. even
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  • There, as you see that honestly, that's one of the images that
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  • Got me the most those trunks. because i remember when barry,
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  • My husband, and i were getting our son ready to send him off to
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  • Camp, and having that trunk was a huge deal. it was something
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  • They decorated and they made it just their own. and when i saw
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  • The pictures inside those cabins that had been absolutely
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  • Decimated by the storm, and you would see pink sleeping bags and
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  • Soft plush toys absolutely ruined. but i have to say, our
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  • Our hearts are heavy for dick eastland's wife. he was the
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  • Director of this camp. camp mystic. he and his wife had been
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  • In their family since 1939, and he died trying to pull girls to
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  • Safety. he was not someone who stood separate from the tragedy
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  • That was unfolding in front of him. you'll see on your screen
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  • There right now is a number. samaritan's purse are literally
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  • On their way, even as we speak. you know, i was reading in psalm
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  • 6061 today, even as my heart was aching for those parents. july
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  • The 4th says something about when a tragedy happens on a
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  • Holiday that just makes it even more devastating. because every
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  • Time that holiday comes around, that's what they will remember.
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  • And so i read this in psalm 61, verse one and two says this.
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  • Hear my cry, o god, attend to my prayer from the ends of the
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  • Earth. i will cry to you when my heart is overwhelmed. lead me to
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  • The rock that is higher than i. throughout tonight's broadcast,
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  • We'll be talking with pastors who are literally there on the
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  • Ground in kerrville. some of them will be familiar to you.
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  • One of them is a very dear friend of tbn, almost like tbn
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  • Family, someone who was very loved by paul and jan crouch,
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  • And also the pastor of the baptist church there in
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  • Kerrville. those people are literally at the moment,
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  • Standing as the hands and feet of jesus to comfort these
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  • Families. while some of these children are still missing.
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  • That's one of our prayers tonight, and i'm going to invite
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  • You to join with me, that those children who are missing, that
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  • They would be found so that they could be returned to their
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  • Families. in fact, i would just love at the top of the program
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  • To just pause right now and invite you to pray with me.
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  • Let's pray for the families. let's pray for those who have
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  • Not been found yet. i'm praying for god to dispatch battalions
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  • Of angels to uncover where these children are, so that they can
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  • Be returned home to their family. let's pray for the first
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  • Responders. it broke my heart today listening to one of the
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  • First responders talk about what it's like when you suddenly come
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  • Across a little, a little lamb who has been lost. and, you
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  • Know, even though you know, they're safe in the arms of
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  • Jesus, your heart aches. so would you join me? even now?
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  • Let's pray together. father god. thank you that we get to use the
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  • Name father, that you are a father who understands what it's
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  • Like to lose a child. you're a father who is acquainted with
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  • Grief. i want to thank you that jesus understands human
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  • Suffering at the most desperate level. but tonight, as a family
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  • At tbn, we want to pray for those parents, lord, who still
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  • Don't know where their little ones are. lord jesus, would you
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  • Wrap your arms around them? would you help the first
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  • Responders find those little ones and bring them home to
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  • Their families? we pray, too, for the families whose children
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  • Survived and how they're now going to have to try and help
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  • Those children process this grief. we pray for teachers who
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  • Even now, probably are dreading a new school year because some
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  • Of the kids that should have been in their classroom will not
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  • Be there. lord, we pray for the pastors who are there, who are
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  • Being your hands and feet and your voice and your grace and
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  • Your mercy. lord, give them strength. give them wisdom for
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  • The for the first responders. hold them up, oh, lord. lord, we
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  • Have no words. we have no words. but we ask that you would do
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  • What only you can do and bring hope where there seems to be no
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  • Hope, because we ask it in the powerful name of jesus. amen.
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  • Throughout the program you will see a number on your screen, and
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  • That is a place where you can can give help. right now there's
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  • Some people have been bringing clothes and food, but there's
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  • Some other needs that are much more necessary right at the
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  • Moment. and samaritan's purse, as you know, here at tbn, we
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  • Consider them a dear partner who we trust. so they will be there
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  • On the ground. but now i'm going to be joined by eric
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  • Stackelbeck, who's our leading geopolitical analyst and
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  • Commentator, and he's just going to update us with the latest
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  • That we know right now about the situation. eric.
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  • >> there is an urgent need for prayer in texas tonight.
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  • Catastrophic flash floods have devastated the hill country
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  • Region, leaving over 90 people dead, including 27 children. it
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  • All unfolded in a matter of minutes on the 4th of july, as
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  • Torrential rains caused rivers like the guadalupe and llano to
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  • Overflow with terrifying force. one of the hardest hit areas was
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  • Camp mystic, a well known christian summer camp for girls
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  • In hunt, texas. of the 750 campers on site, dozens of girls
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  • And counselors were killed when the river rose 26ft in just 45
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  • Minutes. ten children and one counselor are still missing
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  • Tonight. camp director dick eastland lost his life trying to
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  • Save them. the stories emerging from this tragedy are
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  • Heartbreaking. nearly 900 high water rescues have taken place
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  • Since friday alone. while president trump has approved a
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  • Major disaster declaration and is expected to visit texas later
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  • This week. he released a statement saying may god bless
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  • The great people of texas, especially the parents who have
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  • Lost their children. texas governor greg abbott described
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  • The devastation as nothing short of horrific, and said the river
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  • Reached the tops of cabins and washed away entire structures as
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  • Rescue and recovery efforts continue. camp mystic has asked
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  • For continued prayers, respect and privacy for the families
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  • Affected. they said, quote, our hearts are broken. may the lord
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  • Wrap his presence around all of us. folks, we ask you to join
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  • The entire tbn family in praying for the people of texas. pray
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  • For the missing to be found. pray for healing for the
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  • Injured. pray for peace and comfort for every parent who
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  • Lost a child. and let's believe together for miraculous stories
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  • Of survival and god's presence to shine even in this darkest
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  • Moment.
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  • >> thank you eric. thank you for that update. you know, one of
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  • The things i found so moving they showed busses of girls have
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  • Been put onto busses who had survived and were moving out of
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  • The area. and i said to my husband, turn the volume up and
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  • I listened. and these little girls who were literally driving
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  • Past the swollen river looking at the devastation, we're
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  • Singing a song i used to sing when i was a little girl in
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  • Sunday school. they were singing that song about only takes a
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  • Spark to get a fire glowing. that's how it is with god's love
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  • Once you experience it. and to watch these young lives singing
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  • About songs that are buried deep in their hearts, even in the
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  • Midst of tragedy, was just so beautiful. and i know that the
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  • Love that was poured into their lives while they were at camp
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  • Mystic, something that will sustain them in the days to
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  • Come. but we're going to be joined now by a couple who are
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  • Very, very dear to us here at tbn. they were much loved by
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  • Paul and jan crouch and by the crouch family. in fact, dell
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  • Used to have a program on tbn. he was a wonderful singer, a
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  • Tremendous musician, i think. yeah, we have a picture there of
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  • Him singing on tbn. and many of you will remember him. he was
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  • Just he's such an amazing man. well, now he is the pastor. he
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  • And his wife, are pastor senior pastors of calvary temple church
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  • In kerrville. and i'm going to be joined now by dell and cindy
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  • Wade. dell, cindy, thank you so much for taking time to join us
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  • Tonight. absolutely, absolutely.
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  • >> thank you, sheila, for calling us. we appreciate it and
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  • Drawing attention to this. and we're standing outside our house
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  • Right now. and i feel a little awkward doing it because so
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  • Many other people have lost so much more than we have.
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  • And. and it. but i thank you all for drawing attention to
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  • The folks in kerrville and the surrounding area that's
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  • Been been through so many rough things, and we want to
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  • Thank god for pray for tweedy, eastland, and the
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  • Eastland family. can't mistake, can't mistake. they
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  • They're the owners and patriarchs and matriarchs of
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  • That. and dickie gave his life saving little girls. and what a
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  • Testimony of his love. and it's just like dickie and his whole
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  • Family is that way. absolutely.
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  • >> it's the holy family.
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  • >> yeah, they're all just wonderful people. but thank you
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  • For drawing attention to this.
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  • >> cindy, tell me, when did this become real for you? when did
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  • You realize something devastating was happening?
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  • >> well, i woke up that morning at 5:00 and i was going to have
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  • Some coffee, and i thought, you know what? it's 4th of july. so
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  • I laid down for a little bit and i could hear the surge protector
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  • Clicking on and off. and i thought, is that our electric?
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  • And it did. about the third time, i picked up my phone and
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  • Saw it was a flood alert, and i screenshoted it at 618. so i
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  • Thought, i'll get candles. and i walked around to our pantry,
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  • Got the candles, and there's a door that goes out to our
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  • Garage. and as i stepped, i thought i fell water and i
  • 00:14:02.865 --> 00:14:06.001
  • Thought, i bet our garage is leaked. and i opened the
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  • Garage door and it just flooded inside while i
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  • Slammed as much as i could turn my light on the phone,
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  • Went to wake him up and shined down the floor by the
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  • Front door and water was coming up there. i said,
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  • Dale, get up. and he said, what? i said, we are
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  • Flooding. and within 15 minutes he actually got out
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  • Of bed. stepping in.
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  • >> i stepped in, it, went through our house within
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  • Seconds.
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  • >> yeah. and we and it was dark outside. so i tried to
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  • Open our blinds, but since our electricity was off, we
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  • Didn't have our flood lights. nothing. and within
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  • 15 minutes we're standing in, what, two and a half,
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  • Three.
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  • >> feet, three foot. it peaked about three foot
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  • Inside our house. and then finally it set there a
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  • Little bit and it started receding. and as soon as i
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  • Could open the door, we started pushing water out
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  • And we had furniture. it's horrible, but furniture
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  • Floating. i'm saying we're standing outside of a
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  • Dumpster. let me kind of give you a little shot of
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  • This here.
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  • >> yeah.
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  • >> standing outside a dumpster we're having.
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  • Evidently, we're clearing house, but we've had people
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  • That showed up here that our church people and just
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  • People showed up and just jd in the middle of this thing, and
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  • I can i say this. there are so many heroes.
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  • >> yes, yes.
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  • >> kerrville, texas. right now, i have never seen so many heroes
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  • That have sacrificed everything to come here and risk their life
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  • For these precious people and our hearts and our prayers. at
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  • Calvary temple church, cindy and i, it goes out to all those
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  • Folks and they know we're here for them if they need us. we
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  • Have a shelter at our church and we're feeding and everything we
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  • Can bathe in. we're doing anything we can. they have
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  • Showers, we have it all. but it's a heartbreaking. but i
  • 00:15:35.991 --> 00:15:39.495
  • Told the church sunday, i said, i told cindy, laying
  • 00:15:39.495 --> 00:15:42.798
  • In bed, i wrote a song called i just hold his handi
  • 00:15:42.798 --> 00:15:46.068
  • Said, i'm going to sing that tomorrow. and i said, i don't
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  • Know what to preach now, cindy, because it has to change from
  • 00:15:48.904 --> 00:15:51.707
  • What i planned. and she said, what about i just hold his
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  • Hand? and i thought, my god, what a it couldn't be any
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  • Better. and so why not hold the hand of the man that
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  • Sees through the darkness? and god brought us hope and
  • 00:16:01.717 --> 00:16:06.121
  • Brought a lot of people hope in the midst of tragedy and
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  • Darkness. and i'm so grateful that he's faithful. yes. i'm so
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  • Grateful he's faithful. and thank you all for drawing
  • 00:16:12.528 --> 00:16:15.831
  • Attention to this. we love you guys, and we appreciate you all
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  • More than you'll ever know.
  • 00:16:17.966 --> 00:16:19.268
  • >> but god has used you both so much over the years through your
  • 00:16:19.268 --> 00:16:24.073
  • Music, through programing. but you stand now as a pastor.
  • 00:16:24.073 --> 00:16:27.743
  • You're both senior pastors of this church. how were you able
  • 00:16:27.743 --> 00:16:31.647
  • To get into the pulpit on sunday morning? i mean, how do.
  • 00:16:31.647 --> 00:16:34.883
  • >> you nine years this month?
  • 00:16:34.883 --> 00:16:36.351
  • >> 39 years? wow.
  • 00:16:36.351 --> 00:16:38.053
  • >> 13 wow, wow. how was that.
  • 00:16:38.053 --> 00:16:41.223
  • >> for you? i look that old.
  • 00:16:41.223 --> 00:16:43.125
  • >> are you standing strong after this many years?
  • 00:16:43.125 --> 00:16:45.794
  • >> but how.
  • 00:16:45.794 --> 00:16:47.062
  • >> do you calling? i will say this because he's very humble
  • 00:16:47.062 --> 00:16:49.398
  • When it comes to that. it is a calling that he has had on his
  • 00:16:49.398 --> 00:16:53.769
  • Life. anybody has offered saying come somewhere else. and he was
  • 00:16:53.769 --> 00:16:56.238
  • Called to kerrville pastor here. we love our community. we love
  • 00:16:56.238 --> 00:16:58.674
  • Our people, their families. you know, when they hurt, we hurt,
  • 00:16:58.674 --> 00:17:01.910
  • You know, in this moment right now, if it's not somebody we
  • 00:17:01.910 --> 00:17:06.281
  • Know that we know, somebody that knows someone, it's that close
  • 00:17:06.281 --> 00:17:09.118
  • Of a community and everybody. it's just a wonderful place.
  • 00:17:09.118 --> 00:17:13.322
  • It's kerrville is just.
  • 00:17:13.322 --> 00:17:14.623
  • >> the best people in the world. i know you hear that. and let me
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  • Say this, sheila, the next time you see a disaster scene on
  • 00:17:17.793 --> 00:17:20.863
  • Television, somebody being interviewed and they don't look
  • 00:17:20.863 --> 00:17:23.932
  • Up to snuff, it's because they didn't have anything to put on,
  • 00:17:23.932 --> 00:17:26.768
  • And they were probably cleaning their house when something
  • 00:17:26.768 --> 00:17:29.238
  • Happened and they didn't have time for tv makeup like we used
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  • To, like i used to all the time. and cindy, did they just show up
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  • And i have i can't even say on tv what i have the same pair of
  • 00:17:35.677 --> 00:17:40.716
  • Jeans i've been wearing two days in a row. it's just, you know,
  • 00:17:40.716 --> 00:17:44.086
  • You don't have anything. you can't dress up and i'll never
  • 00:17:44.086 --> 00:17:47.322
  • Criticize anybody again. when i see them on a disaster scene.
  • 00:17:47.322 --> 00:17:51.193
  • I'm telling you, i'm praying for them every time i see them. i'll
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  • Pray for you.
  • 00:17:54.596 --> 00:17:55.898
  • >> you're looking good to us, dale. you both look good. we're
  • 00:17:55.898 --> 00:17:57.900
  • Just so glad to see your faces. what do you think is.
  • 00:17:57.900 --> 00:18:00.903
  • >> thank you so much. you're so kind.
  • 00:18:00.903 --> 00:18:03.005
  • >> what do you think is the hardest thing at the moment?
  • 00:18:03.005 --> 00:18:06.408
  • What is the hardest thing you're seeing?
  • 00:18:06.408 --> 00:18:10.913
  • >> well, as of now, the death toll is at 104. and that is with
  • 00:18:10.913 --> 00:18:17.119
  • A little over two, two dozen children. and i think the
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  • Hardest thing is our family life center is set up for people to
  • 00:18:21.723 --> 00:18:26.929
  • Be able to be notified. red cross is set up there. our
  • 00:18:26.929 --> 00:18:30.832
  • Hardest thing is today they came in to do dna swabs because they
  • 00:18:30.832 --> 00:18:34.703
  • Have got bodies that they don't know who to match them with, and
  • 00:18:34.703 --> 00:18:38.106
  • So they're doing dna swabs to see if that's the relative. to
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  • Me, that was the hardest thing i don't know about you.
  • 00:18:41.210 --> 00:18:44.246
  • >> it was. and then these precious kids and then the
  • 00:18:44.246 --> 00:18:47.282
  • Heroism. yes. of people like vickie eastman.
  • 00:18:47.282 --> 00:18:50.886
  • >> yes.
  • 00:18:50.886 --> 00:18:52.354
  • >> throwing himself knowing, i mean, a young in-shape man who
  • 00:18:52.354 --> 00:18:58.093
  • Can't fight a raging river. but yet he threw himself in there
  • 00:18:58.093 --> 00:19:01.263
  • Trying to save those kids. yes, it it's a testament to he knows
  • 00:19:01.263 --> 00:19:05.367
  • He's going to heaven. yes, he knew where he was going if
  • 00:19:05.367 --> 00:19:08.837
  • Something didn't work out. and it's heartbreaking. i we cry, we
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  • Clean, we. i go to bed at night, i think, okay, i'm going to
  • 00:19:11.740 --> 00:19:15.777
  • Rest. i can't go to sleep because all this is going
  • 00:19:15.777 --> 00:19:17.746
  • Through my mind and all of the giving that people are doing,
  • 00:19:17.746 --> 00:19:21.183
  • Like y'all calling us and all this people reaching out to us
  • 00:19:21.183 --> 00:19:24.219
  • From all over the country and even other parts of the world
  • 00:19:24.219 --> 00:19:28.724
  • I've been reached out to, and they're saying they're praying
  • 00:19:28.724 --> 00:19:31.260
  • For us and we can't we can't say thank you enough. those two, if
  • 00:19:31.260 --> 00:19:35.564
  • I can find words better than thank you, i would be a very
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  • Wealthy man.
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  • >> how are you? this is almost a ridiculous question, but how do
  • 00:19:41.637 --> 00:19:45.040
  • You help people emotionally in this first few days? i mean, i
  • 00:19:45.040 --> 00:19:48.944
  • Just as a pastor, i can't imagine what it's like to find
  • 00:19:48.944 --> 00:19:53.882
  • Words for those who are hurting so badly.
  • 00:19:53.882 --> 00:20:00.355
  • >> it's hard to do whenever you're in the middle of a
  • 00:20:00.355 --> 00:20:05.427
  • Situation. i told i sent a post out on x the other day, don't
  • 00:20:05.427 --> 00:20:09.298
  • Get mad at god. get a hold of god because we see now. god
  • 00:20:09.298 --> 00:20:15.237
  • Sees tomorrow. and even though our hearts are
  • 00:20:15.237 --> 00:20:18.407
  • Broken, your heart's been broken. our hearts have been
  • 00:20:18.407 --> 00:20:21.276
  • Broken. we know what the broken hearts like and can imagine what
  • 00:20:21.276 --> 00:20:25.113
  • Some of these people are going through. but god does know and
  • 00:20:25.113 --> 00:20:28.850
  • We can't understand it. i heard doctor robert schuller on tbn
  • 00:20:28.850 --> 00:20:33.789
  • Years ago was interviewed by larry king. actually, he was it
  • 00:20:33.789 --> 00:20:38.160
  • Was he was on tv, but he was interviewed on whatever network
  • 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:42.164
  • By larry king. and larry king asked him about a tragedy, and
  • 00:20:42.164 --> 00:20:46.201
  • He said, doctor schuller, do you ever ask god why? and doctor
  • 00:20:46.201 --> 00:20:49.705
  • Schuller, i remember i wanted to hear the answer. i couldn't
  • 00:20:49.705 --> 00:20:52.607
  • Wait. and doctor schuller said in his dignified voice, white
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  • Hair. he said, oh, larry, i find when you ask god why you're not
  • 00:20:55.811 --> 00:21:00.148
  • Looking for an answer, you're looking for an argument. and i'd
  • 00:21:00.148 --> 00:21:04.486
  • Never forgotten that. there's nothing he tells us will satisfy
  • 00:21:04.486 --> 00:21:08.423
  • Us right now. but if we'll hang on to him, i. i told the church
  • 00:21:08.423 --> 00:21:13.128
  • Sunday, it's just like a little child walking with her mom or
  • 00:21:13.128 --> 00:21:15.864
  • Her dad, and they enter a place she's not sure of with in her
  • 00:21:15.864 --> 00:21:20.802
  • Subconscious. the first thing you'll see, i saw it just
  • 00:21:20.802 --> 00:21:23.572
  • Happened the other day. that little child will not look at
  • 00:21:23.572 --> 00:21:25.841
  • Her mom or dad, but that hand will go up to grab their hand.
  • 00:21:25.841 --> 00:21:29.711
  • >> wow.
  • 00:21:29.711 --> 00:21:30.946
  • >> that's right. and out of instinct, i'm going to grab a
  • 00:21:30.946 --> 00:21:33.382
  • Hold of the one that will walk me through this. yeah, and
  • 00:21:33.382 --> 00:21:36.184
  • That's what god the father will do if we'll reach out and not
  • 00:21:36.184 --> 00:21:39.755
  • Not question him. because no answer will satisfy. but grab
  • 00:21:39.755 --> 00:21:42.657
  • His hand and just let him lead through. because he sees around
  • 00:21:42.657 --> 00:21:46.428
  • The band, he sees through the darkness and he will be there.
  • 00:21:46.428 --> 00:21:49.865
  • And we'll look back on it and have hurt and heart in our heart
  • 00:21:49.865 --> 00:21:54.069
  • Have hurt and heart in our heart
  • 00:21:54.069 --> 00:21:56.104
  • Back and see how he walked with us every single step of the way.
  • 00:21:56.104 --> 00:22:01.076
  • >> how can we, as your tbn family, how can we pray for you?
  • 00:22:01.076 --> 00:22:08.650
  • >> you know, pray for the families, their hearts right
  • 00:22:08.650 --> 00:22:12.854
  • Now. pray for the first responders. i know everybody
  • 00:22:12.854 --> 00:22:16.458
  • Talks about that, but pray for them. i honestly, i, i have
  • 00:22:16.458 --> 00:22:21.630
  • Never i don't think we've ever seen such a outpouring from
  • 00:22:21.630 --> 00:22:27.235
  • Everywhere. i mean, everywhere i have, i have people calling me
  • 00:22:27.235 --> 00:22:31.973
  • Wanting to bring in every kind of organization in the world.
  • 00:22:31.973 --> 00:22:34.543
  • I've talked to samaritan's purse today, i've talked to bbc from
  • 00:22:34.543 --> 00:22:39.915
  • England is over here. they did an interview with me today. all
  • 00:22:39.915 --> 00:22:42.884
  • These different people, but the first responders in a little
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  • Bitty town east of us that probably has 2000 people. the
  • 00:22:45.987 --> 00:22:50.625
  • Fire department had 150 volunteers outside.
  • 00:22:50.625 --> 00:22:54.629
  • >> wow.
  • 00:22:54.629 --> 00:22:55.897
  • >> at a little bitty town of 2000. wow. and the we got coast
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  • Guard. and i want to say our governor has been a he's been
  • 00:22:59.734 --> 00:23:04.105
  • Abbott has been awesome. and our administration that we have now
  • 00:23:04.105 --> 00:23:08.743
  • I mean the president is going to be here friday. yeah. and they
  • 00:23:08.743 --> 00:23:11.913
  • He whatever it takes. he said whatever it takes in our house.
  • 00:23:11.913 --> 00:23:15.851
  • You know, cindy found out this morning went to our insurance
  • 00:23:15.851 --> 00:23:19.020
  • And they said you're not covered. wow. it's all you. and
  • 00:23:19.020 --> 00:23:23.158
  • So we're going, wow. you know, it sounds kind of weird. as old
  • 00:23:23.158 --> 00:23:26.761
  • As i am. this is the only home i ever owned. i never owned the
  • 00:23:26.761 --> 00:23:29.965
  • Home until this one. my kids were raised here. my grandkids
  • 00:23:29.965 --> 00:23:33.368
  • Were. they don't know any other house.
  • 00:23:33.368 --> 00:23:35.937
  • >> and every christmas is here.
  • 00:23:35.937 --> 00:23:37.873
  • >> every christmas is here. but, you know, it's just unbelievable
  • 00:23:37.873 --> 00:23:42.544
  • What's happened. and but insurance is not going to pay
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  • For it. they said if it burned down. and i'll be honest with
  • 00:23:47.082 --> 00:23:50.619
  • You, i shouldn't say this, but that somebody said we're
  • 00:23:50.619 --> 00:23:53.021
  • Going to try to turn the power back on today. and
  • 00:23:53.021 --> 00:23:55.724
  • When i found out if it would have burned down, they would
  • 00:23:55.724 --> 00:23:58.960
  • Have paid for it. i said, i hope everything shorts out
  • 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:02.030
  • And burns the thing down. i'm sorry, i shouldn't have
  • 00:24:02.030 --> 00:24:04.933
  • Said that. but anyway, you.
  • 00:24:04.933 --> 00:24:06.101
  • >> couldn't make it.
  • 00:24:06.101 --> 00:24:06.701
  • >> through.
  • 00:24:06.701 --> 00:24:07.035
  • >> this.
  • 00:24:07.035 --> 00:24:09.204
  • >> without that. anyway. god is faithful.
  • 00:24:09.204 --> 00:24:10.105
  • >> yes he is.
  • 00:24:10.105 --> 00:24:11.339
  • >> i'm going to prove it. i'll do an interview with you and
  • 00:24:11.339 --> 00:24:13.742
  • Show you later, okay? that god has been faithful through this.
  • 00:24:13.742 --> 00:24:17.145
  • >> coming out?
  • 00:24:17.145 --> 00:24:17.779
  • >> absolutely. coming out.
  • 00:24:17.779 --> 00:24:19.714
  • >> and we will keep praying for you. we love you. we are
  • 00:24:18.547 --> 00:24:22.551
  • Upholding your arms, and we will continue to pray for you. and
  • 00:24:22.551 --> 00:24:24.819
  • We'll come back to you. and maybe you'll give us that song
  • 00:24:24.819 --> 00:24:27.756
  • Next time.
  • 00:24:27.756 --> 00:24:29.324
  • >> helicopters are going up. now we've got.
  • 00:24:29.324 --> 00:24:30.625
  • >> i'm sorry, we got helicopters overhead. we love y'all. thank
  • 00:24:30.625 --> 00:24:33.762
  • You for calling and talking to us.
  • 00:24:33.762 --> 00:24:35.130
  • >> thank you.
  • 00:24:35.130 --> 00:24:36.431
  • >> love you. let's just let's do that. let's just pray for what
  • 00:24:36.431 --> 00:24:38.867
  • They ask. pray for the first responders. i just think that's
  • 00:24:38.867 --> 00:24:42.170
  • Got to be because so many of these people, their mothers and
  • 00:24:42.170 --> 00:24:45.173
  • Fathers themselves, it's one thing when, you know, some kind
  • 00:24:45.173 --> 00:24:48.910
  • Of tragedy happens and it's an adult perhaps has lost their
  • 00:24:48.910 --> 00:24:53.214
  • Life, as many in this have over 103 or 104, i think, cindy said.
  • 00:24:53.214 --> 00:24:58.920
  • But coming across the bodies of little children has got to be
  • 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:03.191
  • Absolutely devastating. so let's let them out. father god, we do
  • 00:25:03.191 --> 00:25:07.195
  • That right now. we ask for all the first responders, for those
  • 00:25:07.195 --> 00:25:12.434
  • Who are working for the fire brigades, for the national
  • 00:25:12.434 --> 00:25:16.538
  • Guard, for those swimmers who've been going in trying to find
  • 00:25:16.538 --> 00:25:20.875
  • Whatever they could, as the water is so muddy and so
  • 00:25:20.875 --> 00:25:24.312
  • Polluted. father, we ask. we don't just ask like normal
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  • Things. lord, you're a god of miracles. so i ask for miracles.
  • 00:25:28.450 --> 00:25:33.722
  • This isn't just like we just hoping for the best. you are a
  • 00:25:33.722 --> 00:25:37.792
  • God of miracles. so that's what we are asking for, lord. we're
  • 00:25:37.792 --> 00:25:42.030
  • Asking for miracles. we're asking for things that only you
  • 00:25:42.030 --> 00:25:45.634
  • Could do. things that will have to come back on after this and
  • 00:25:45.634 --> 00:25:49.237
  • Say that the only explanation is god, because there's no way that
  • 00:25:49.237 --> 00:25:53.141
  • Happened humanly. that's who you are, and that's who we're
  • 00:25:53.141 --> 00:25:57.646
  • Running to. and as del said, that's whose hand we are taking.
  • 00:25:57.646 --> 00:26:01.449
  • And lord, we just pray for your peace and your presence to rest
  • 00:26:01.449 --> 00:26:05.820
  • Upon that place. and i ask you, lord, that out of this tragedy,
  • 00:26:05.820 --> 00:26:11.526
  • It's what you're known for that what the worst that happens
  • 00:26:11.526 --> 00:26:17.265
  • Somehow, because you are a magnificent, majestic god. you
  • 00:26:17.265 --> 00:26:21.603
  • Even bring good from the greatest tragedy. so we ask for
  • 00:26:21.603 --> 00:26:27.242
  • People, lord, who did not know you up until this tragedy. lord
  • 00:26:27.242 --> 00:26:32.814
  • Jesus, would you show yourself real to them? i pray on behalf
  • 00:26:32.814 --> 00:26:37.152
  • Of dell and cindy. i join with them that those people would
  • 00:26:37.152 --> 00:26:42.557
  • Take your hand, would hold on to you, and that this would be a
  • 00:26:42.557 --> 00:26:48.329
  • Day of salvation, a day of salvation, and a day of
  • 00:26:48.329 --> 00:26:53.001
  • Miracles. lord, do what only you can do, and we ask it in
  • 00:26:53.001 --> 00:26:58.840
  • Jesus name. and i was reading something that billy
  • 00:26:58.840 --> 00:27:04.913
  • Graham said. i was doing a little research earlier, and he
  • 00:27:04.913 --> 00:27:09.284
  • Said, no matter what your situation may be, god is always
  • 00:27:09.284 --> 00:27:14.923
  • With you. you are never completely alone when you know
  • 00:27:14.923 --> 00:27:19.260
  • Christ. he went on to say, if there's something we need more
  • 00:27:19.260 --> 00:27:22.664
  • Than anything else during grief, it's a friend who stands with us
  • 00:27:22.664 --> 00:27:28.737
  • Who doesn't leave us. jesus is that friend. and that's our
  • 00:27:28.737 --> 00:27:35.110
  • Prayer. just as we're hearing miracle stories from across the
  • 00:27:35.110 --> 00:27:37.645
  • Seas, we're hearing of christ appearing to men and women in
  • 00:27:37.645 --> 00:27:41.249
  • Iran, showing himself, you know, the fastest growing church at
  • 00:27:41.249 --> 00:27:45.520
  • The moment is in iran. and then in china, where they've said
  • 00:27:45.520 --> 00:27:49.090
  • There is no god. god himself shows up in power. that's what
  • 00:27:49.090 --> 00:27:53.828
  • We're praying for this area in texas, too. and now i'm going to
  • 00:27:53.828 --> 00:27:57.899
  • Be joined by, oh gosh, someone we love so much here at tbn. we
  • 00:27:57.899 --> 00:28:02.871
  • Really secular news media refer to him as america's pastor, and
  • 00:28:02.871 --> 00:28:07.876
  • He has certainly more than earned that title. but we're
  • 00:28:07.876 --> 00:28:11.246
  • Going to be joined by my very dear friend max lucado and max.
  • 00:28:11.246 --> 00:28:15.717
  • What a joy it is. it's a joy to see your face, but such a hard
  • 00:28:15.717 --> 00:28:21.156
  • Situation to be talking to you about. but this is close to home
  • 00:28:21.156 --> 00:28:24.926
  • For you.
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  • >> very much so. thank you sheila, for allowing me to have
  • 00:28:26.261 --> 00:28:29.397
  • This opportunity. i send love from my home to you and all of
  • 00:28:29.397 --> 00:28:33.968
  • Your family. the guadalupe river is a long time retreat for me
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  • And my family. for our church. we've lived in san antonio since
  • 00:28:40.341 --> 00:28:46.748
  • 1988 and san antonio, where we live. we could be in kerrville.
  • 00:28:46.748 --> 00:28:51.419
  • That was a wonderful interview you did with pastor dale. we
  • 00:28:51.419 --> 00:28:55.190
  • Could be there in 45 minutes easily. and so we have always
  • 00:28:55.190 --> 00:28:59.727
  • Found the kerrville hill country area, where hunt and ingram and
  • 00:28:59.727 --> 00:29:05.834
  • Comfort are to be a great place to get away. we've been to, i
  • 00:29:05.834 --> 00:29:10.205
  • Think, every one of the camps that have been affected with
  • 00:29:10.205 --> 00:29:14.142
  • Retreats and conferences, we've held baptism services there.
  • 00:29:14.142 --> 00:29:18.513
  • It's a special place, a beautiful people, beautiful part
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  • Of the world, and our hearts are broken as we as we hear the
  • 00:29:22.517 --> 00:29:28.823
  • Increasing number of those who have died in this disaster.
  • 00:29:28.823 --> 00:29:32.427
  • >> you know, max, not only are you one of our most prolific
  • 00:29:32.427 --> 00:29:36.331
  • Writers and a pastor, but you're a dad, you know, and i was
  • 00:29:36.331 --> 00:29:40.835
  • Seeing those trunks, and i was remembering the times when barry
  • 00:29:40.835 --> 00:29:43.638
  • And i used to pack christian's trunk because he was off to
  • 00:29:43.638 --> 00:29:46.941
  • Camp. i just wonder, as a dad, how how are you? i don't even
  • 00:29:46.941 --> 00:29:53.214
  • Know the words. how are you processing this?
  • 00:29:53.214 --> 00:29:57.685
  • >> there is no more. there is. there's no greater challenge
  • 00:29:57.685 --> 00:30:02.123
  • Than for a parent to outlive their child. the most difficult
  • 00:30:02.123 --> 00:30:07.028
  • Eulogies that i have ever had to create and present were at the
  • 00:30:07.028 --> 00:30:12.767
  • Funerals of children who, for one reason or another, went on
  • 00:30:12.767 --> 00:30:18.273
  • To heaven before their parents did. it's heartbreaking. it's
  • 00:30:18.273 --> 00:30:23.278
  • Heartbreaking. and if ever there's a time that we need to
  • 00:30:23.278 --> 00:30:27.982
  • Lean into the promises of god, it is during a time like this,
  • 00:30:27.982 --> 00:30:32.620
  • If there's ever a time we need to be reminded that he knows our
  • 00:30:32.620 --> 00:30:36.224
  • Last day, from our first day, that nobody lives one day less
  • 00:30:36.224 --> 00:30:39.861
  • Or more than they were sovereignly intended to live.
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  • That the purpose of this life is to prepare us for the next life.
  • 00:30:43.665 --> 00:30:47.535
  • All these truths that we hold on to. this is when we really have
  • 00:30:47.535 --> 00:30:51.906
  • To hold on to them. you know, i, i never grow weary of the 23rd
  • 00:30:51.906 --> 00:30:56.344
  • Psalm. yea, though i walk through the valley of the shadow
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  • Of death, i will fear no evil, for you are with me. your rod
  • 00:31:00.014 --> 00:31:06.020
  • And your staff, they comfort me. you know, sheila, to get through
  • 00:31:06.020 --> 00:31:10.692
  • Something. then the shepherd would have to meet you on this
  • 00:31:10.692 --> 00:31:13.194
  • Side of the valley and walk you through it. and in my heart i
  • 00:31:13.194 --> 00:31:17.598
  • Just know that our precious jesus met those children and he
  • 00:31:17.598 --> 00:31:22.236
  • Walked them through these flood waters. he's promised to do
  • 00:31:22.236 --> 00:31:25.540
  • That, and he guided them home safely. that is never
  • 00:31:25.540 --> 00:31:30.178
  • To minimize the heartbreak, though that parents face.
  • 00:31:30.178 --> 00:31:32.714
  • There's there there just no words to minimize it. and i
  • 00:31:32.714 --> 00:31:36.250
  • Pray for them. may the lord bless them the grandparents,
  • 00:31:36.250 --> 00:31:39.721
  • The friends, the siblings, the teachers, the
  • 00:31:39.721 --> 00:31:44.125
  • Schoolmates. this is going to be a hard one for a long
  • 00:31:44.125 --> 00:31:48.496
  • Time.
  • 00:31:48.496 --> 00:31:49.630
  • >> you know, i've noticed, max, whenever tragedy hits
  • 00:31:49.630 --> 00:31:51.599
  • Our country, almost all of our news media seek you out.
  • 00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:56.270
  • I remember when 911 happened that they sought you out. where
  • 00:31:56.270 --> 00:32:02.310
  • Do you find the strength in the midst of something that's
  • 00:32:02.310 --> 00:32:05.847
  • Unspeakable? to be able to bring words of hope?
  • 00:32:05.847 --> 00:32:10.885
  • >> well, we do grieve, right, but we do not grieve like those
  • 00:32:10.885 --> 00:32:14.856
  • Who have no hope. and the passages in scripture that speak
  • 00:32:14.856 --> 00:32:19.460
  • Loudest to me and those speak loudly to you as well. sheila,
  • 00:32:19.460 --> 00:32:23.131
  • We're like where the apostle paul said that our brief and
  • 00:32:23.131 --> 00:32:26.300
  • Momentary troubles are not worth comparing with the glory that
  • 00:32:26.300 --> 00:32:30.238
  • Far outweighs them all. you know, this doesn't feel brief
  • 00:32:30.238 --> 00:32:34.242
  • And momentary. it does not. cancer does not feel brief and
  • 00:32:34.242 --> 00:32:39.447
  • Momentary. the widower, uyghur or widow does not feel like
  • 00:32:39.447 --> 00:32:43.251
  • What they're going through is brief and momentary. and
  • 00:32:43.251 --> 00:32:46.154
  • Yet the apostle paul says, when you compare the glory
  • 00:32:46.154 --> 00:32:50.358
  • That awaits us with the challenges that face us, the
  • 00:32:50.358 --> 00:32:55.229
  • Glory that far outweighs them all. and so it's that
  • 00:32:55.229 --> 00:32:59.100
  • Call to lift up our eyes, to set our hearts on heaven, to
  • 00:32:59.100 --> 00:33:03.071
  • Set our minds on things above, not things below.
  • 00:33:03.071 --> 00:33:07.809
  • Apart from christ. i don't know where to find hope, i
  • 00:33:07.809 --> 00:33:10.578
  • Really don't. i can understand why people get
  • 00:33:10.578 --> 00:33:14.182
  • Angry during a time of disaster. i can understand
  • 00:33:14.182 --> 00:33:17.251
  • Why we point fingers and get mad. that's that's just our
  • 00:33:17.251 --> 00:33:20.688
  • Human nature trying to find some solution. but the
  • 00:33:20.688 --> 00:33:24.292
  • Solution that god provides is that our lives here are
  • 00:33:24.292 --> 00:33:28.196
  • Brief there. but for a moment, regardless of how
  • 00:33:28.196 --> 00:33:31.632
  • Long we live, there are butr a moment. but the glory that
  • 00:33:31.632 --> 00:33:35.503
  • Awaits us far outweighs them all.
  • 00:33:35.503 --> 00:33:39.807
  • >> you know, max, i was thinking sometimes in the worst of
  • 00:33:39.807 --> 00:33:44.879
  • Circumstances, like something like this that was just
  • 00:33:44.879 --> 00:33:47.682
  • Unimaginable. and most of us will remember where we were when
  • 00:33:47.682 --> 00:33:50.785
  • We heard the news. i'm thinking of people who
  • 00:33:50.785 --> 00:33:54.155
  • Perhaps have, in the midst of all this. up until this
  • 00:33:54.155 --> 00:33:59.327
  • Point, as a nation, we were struggling a lot to. there's
  • 00:33:59.327 --> 00:34:02.330
  • A lot of loneliness, there's a lot of anxiety, there's a
  • 00:34:02.330 --> 00:34:05.099
  • Lot of depression. and i'm thinking, has there been a
  • 00:34:05.099 --> 00:34:08.936
  • Better time for people to find out who their good
  • 00:34:08.936 --> 00:34:12.206
  • Shepherd really is? and i'm wondering, max, as a pastor,
  • 00:34:12.206 --> 00:34:15.243
  • Would you take a couple of minutes? and maybe for those
  • 00:34:15.243 --> 00:34:18.045
  • Who feel like, you know what, i'm ready to find the
  • 00:34:18.045 --> 00:34:20.848
  • Shepherd for myself. would you lead people into a
  • 00:34:20.848 --> 00:34:24.118
  • Relationship with him?
  • 00:34:24.118 --> 00:34:25.453
  • >> it'd be a great honor. let this tragedy remind you
  • 00:34:25.453 --> 00:34:29.824
  • How fragile our lives are and how brief our time on
  • 00:34:29.824 --> 00:34:34.795
  • Earth is, and how wise a person is to make
  • 00:34:34.795 --> 00:34:39.667
  • Preparation for the life that is to come. let me lead
  • 00:34:39.667 --> 00:34:42.904
  • You in a prayer. and if this is your first time to ever
  • 00:34:42.904 --> 00:34:46.040
  • Say this prayer, then at the end of the prayer, then i'll
  • 00:34:46.040 --> 00:34:49.377
  • Be the first to welcome you into the family of god, and
  • 00:34:49.377 --> 00:34:52.580
  • You can be sure that he will write your name in the book
  • 00:34:52.580 --> 00:34:57.218
  • Of life, and the tragedies of this earth will pass
  • 00:34:57.218 --> 00:35:00.588
  • Away, but the glory that's yet to come will be a part
  • 00:35:00.588 --> 00:35:04.091
  • Of your future. just repeat after me, dear jesus, i'm a
  • 00:35:04.091 --> 00:35:09.263
  • Sinner. i need your grace. i confess to you that i have
  • 00:35:09.263 --> 00:35:14.135
  • Let you down. but i also confess to you that i now
  • 00:35:14.135 --> 00:35:18.039
  • Lift you up. i call upon you as my savior. i call upon
  • 00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:22.643
  • You as my king. i trust you with my life. i trust you
  • 00:35:22.643 --> 00:35:26.647
  • With my death. i give you my heart. in the name of jesus,
  • 00:35:26.647 --> 00:35:32.653
  • I pray. amen and amen.
  • 00:35:32.653 --> 00:35:38.426
  • >> that's beautiful. and as max said, he was the first o
  • 00:35:38.426 --> 00:35:40.962
  • Welcome you to the family of god. let me be the second to
  • 00:35:40.962 --> 00:35:45.132
  • Welcome you to the family of god. max, as we face the days
  • 00:35:45.132 --> 00:35:48.869
  • Ahead, what do you perceive the greatest needs to be? how can we
  • 00:35:48.869 --> 00:35:52.173
  • Continue to pray for people?
  • 00:35:52.173 --> 00:35:54.775
  • >> this is a time for the church to rally. i love that you have
  • 00:35:54.775 --> 00:35:59.046
  • Samaritan's purse number right there on the phone. we contacted
  • 00:35:59.046 --> 00:36:02.550
  • Our samaritan's purse representative today. we are
  • 00:36:02.550 --> 00:36:06.954
  • Equipping people in our church to muck out houses to go into
  • 00:36:06.954 --> 00:36:12.994
  • The area where people's homes have been so full of mud and
  • 00:36:12.994 --> 00:36:17.765
  • Slime. and we're equipping people with actual tools and
  • 00:36:17.765 --> 00:36:21.335
  • Training. wow. all the churches we need to we need to be the
  • 00:36:21.335 --> 00:36:24.605
  • First feet on the ground, boots on the ground to help people.
  • 00:36:24.605 --> 00:36:27.808
  • Let's write checks. let's give money, let's pray. let's help
  • 00:36:27.808 --> 00:36:32.179
  • Pastors. let's see what we can do. let's rally and be the
  • 00:36:32.179 --> 00:36:35.616
  • People that do our very best to help people who are passing
  • 00:36:35.616 --> 00:36:39.720
  • Through the very worst. this is the time for the church to be
  • 00:36:39.720 --> 00:36:43.124
  • The church. for us to love other people and to help like jesus
  • 00:36:43.124 --> 00:36:47.561
  • Has helped us.
  • 00:36:47.561 --> 00:36:49.397
  • >> that's that's beautiful. one of the things i was thinking, i
  • 00:36:49.397 --> 00:36:51.899
  • Remember when that devastating situation happened in columbine,
  • 00:36:51.899 --> 00:36:55.102
  • I happened to be in that area maybe two months later, and
  • 00:36:55.102 --> 00:37:00.174
  • Somebody had asked, would i be willing to have lunch with some
  • 00:37:00.174 --> 00:37:03.177
  • Of the mothers who had lost a child, which obviously was a
  • 00:37:03.177 --> 00:37:07.048
  • Holy honor? and i remember thinking, i don't think i've got
  • 00:37:07.048 --> 00:37:11.352
  • Words. and one of the mothers said to me, no, we don't need
  • 00:37:11.352 --> 00:37:14.555
  • Your words. we just need your presence. i think sometimes when
  • 00:37:14.555 --> 00:37:18.326
  • There's extreme grief, we almost shy away because we're scared
  • 00:37:18.326 --> 00:37:21.762
  • That we'll say the wrong thing. there really isn't a right thing
  • 00:37:21.762 --> 00:37:24.832
  • To say, is there? but it's a time for community, right?
  • 00:37:24.832 --> 00:37:28.602
  • >> and this is true everywhere. you know, sheila, there are so
  • 00:37:28.602 --> 00:37:31.839
  • Many things happening right now right on the west coast with the
  • 00:37:31.839 --> 00:37:35.242
  • Fires on the east coast, with hurricanes and floods in the
  • 00:37:35.242 --> 00:37:38.512
  • Midwest with tornadoes. this is a time for the church to rise
  • 00:37:38.512 --> 00:37:41.849
  • Up. we've got to be strong. i can't help but think that the
  • 00:37:41.849 --> 00:37:45.953
  • End is coming close. you know, christ warned us that in the
  • 00:37:45.953 --> 00:37:48.756
  • Latter days there would be a turbulent times. pestilences.
  • 00:37:48.756 --> 00:37:54.428
  • There would be earthquakes, there would be wars and rumors
  • 00:37:54.428 --> 00:37:57.164
  • Of wars. i mean, there's so much happening right now. i do not
  • 00:37:57.164 --> 00:38:00.634
  • Know the day. i do not know the hour, but i do see some signs.
  • 00:38:00.634 --> 00:38:04.438
  • And i do think it's time for the church to rally, to be strong,
  • 00:38:04.438 --> 00:38:08.676
  • To come together and to do our very best, to be the best
  • 00:38:08.676 --> 00:38:11.979
  • Servants possible in the communities where we live.
  • 00:38:11.979 --> 00:38:15.750
  • >> beautifully said. max, thank you so much for joining us
  • 00:38:15.750 --> 00:38:18.219
  • Tonight. we love you.
  • 00:38:18.219 --> 00:38:20.554
  • >> love you sheila, and all the very best to you and the
  • 00:38:20.554 --> 00:38:23.991
  • Wonderful tbn family.
  • 00:38:23.991 --> 00:38:25.126
  • >> thank you. you know, i remember i used to work with
  • 00:38:25.126 --> 00:38:27.762
  • This wonderful woman called barbara johnson. you might
  • 00:38:27.762 --> 00:38:30.664
  • Remember her. she wrote some crazy books, like stick a
  • 00:38:30.664 --> 00:38:33.768
  • Geranium in your hat and be happy. and i'm trying to think
  • 00:38:33.768 --> 00:38:35.970
  • What the other one was, but they were all kind of kooky titles.
  • 00:38:35.970 --> 00:38:39.840
  • And yet she had walked through such tragedy. she lost one son
  • 00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.511
  • In vietnam when they sent his body back. her husband simply
  • 00:38:43.511 --> 00:38:48.916
  • Felt he couldn't go to identify the body. it was overwhelming.
  • 00:38:48.916 --> 00:38:52.153
  • And so barbara went and she said, at first i didn't even
  • 00:38:52.153 --> 00:38:55.723
  • Recognize my own son. he had lain upside down in a rice paddy
  • 00:38:55.723 --> 00:38:59.693
  • For 2 or 3 days. then she faced the loss of another son to a
  • 00:38:59.693 --> 00:39:04.799
  • Tragic drunk driving. a drunk driver hit her son and took his
  • 00:39:04.799 --> 00:39:08.369
  • Life in canada. and i remember sitting with barbara because i
  • 00:39:08.369 --> 00:39:12.373
  • Had just heard of a friend of mine who had lost a child, and i
  • 00:39:12.373 --> 00:39:16.277
  • Was flying in so that i could be there. and i said, barbara, i
  • 00:39:16.277 --> 00:39:20.581
  • Don't even know what to say. and she said something that stayed
  • 00:39:20.581 --> 00:39:23.751
  • With me. she said, when the grief is the freshest, the words
  • 00:39:23.751 --> 00:39:28.489
  • Should be the fewest. but there's something about the gift
  • 00:39:28.489 --> 00:39:31.792
  • Of our presence. and so i'm thinking, you know, some of you
  • 00:39:31.792 --> 00:39:35.062
  • Are watching us from texas. some of you are watching us from
  • 00:39:35.062 --> 00:39:38.699
  • Nowhere near texas. but there's things happening in your
  • 00:39:38.699 --> 00:39:42.570
  • Community. there are people who are hurting right now in your
  • 00:39:42.570 --> 00:39:46.440
  • Community and in these days where people are struggling and
  • 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.411
  • Suffering and afraid. what a time is, max said, to rise up
  • 00:39:50.411 --> 00:39:54.748
  • And be the body of christ, to be those who others would say, tell
  • 00:39:54.748 --> 00:40:00.621
  • Me about this hope that you have, because it doesn't make
  • 00:40:00.621 --> 00:40:04.058
  • Sense to me. and then we can talk to them about the
  • 00:40:04.058 --> 00:40:07.328
  • Difference that jesus made. wouldn't it be wonderful if,
  • 00:40:07.328 --> 00:40:11.398
  • Even from something as tragic as this, the body of christ rose up
  • 00:40:11.398 --> 00:40:16.070
  • And began to see miracles happen? that's what i'm praying
  • 00:40:16.070 --> 00:40:20.307
  • For. i was brought up in a little church in scotland who
  • 00:40:20.307 --> 00:40:23.143
  • Believed that miracles ended when jesus went back to heaven.
  • 00:40:23.143 --> 00:40:26.380
  • Well, i don't believe that. i believe that miracles are still
  • 00:40:26.380 --> 00:40:29.316
  • Happening, and honestly, i believe we're going to see them
  • 00:40:29.316 --> 00:40:32.286
  • More now than we have. and one of the things amazing to me is
  • 00:40:32.286 --> 00:40:35.856
  • We're seeing them in our young people, you know, gen z, that so
  • 00:40:35.856 --> 00:40:39.793
  • Many people said, oh, they're, you know, they're not interested
  • 00:40:39.793 --> 00:40:42.062
  • In anything. i think that's not true. i think what they want is
  • 00:40:42.062 --> 00:40:45.533
  • Real, transparent faith, and i believe that they will be the
  • 00:40:45.533 --> 00:40:49.904
  • Ones who will ask god and then expect god to do miracles. one
  • 00:40:49.904 --> 00:40:55.009
  • Of my dearest friends, i texted her the other night and she told
  • 00:40:55.009 --> 00:41:01.181
  • Me that her brother in law is pastor on the ground there in
  • 00:41:01.181 --> 00:41:05.185
  • Kerrville. she said he's the most amazing man. he loves and
  • 00:41:05.185 --> 00:41:11.358
  • Cares for his people. and i said, do you think he would be
  • 00:41:11.358 --> 00:41:14.862
  • Willing to talk to us? you know, you never want to exploit people
  • 00:41:14.862 --> 00:41:17.965
  • In the midst of a tragedy. and she said, let me ask him. and he
  • 00:41:17.965 --> 00:41:21.869
  • Was very kind enough. his name is john wheat. he is pastor,
  • 00:41:21.869 --> 00:41:25.272
  • Senior pastor of trinity baptist church in kerrville. and, john,
  • 00:41:25.272 --> 00:41:29.643
  • I just have to say, thank you so much for your kindness, being
  • 00:41:29.643 --> 00:41:32.846
  • Willing to come on and talk to me, i, i love your sister in
  • 00:41:32.846 --> 00:41:37.785
  • Law, but through her, i've learned to love everything that
  • 00:41:37.785 --> 00:41:41.121
  • God is doing in and through your life there in that church.
  • 00:41:41.121 --> 00:41:44.858
  • Thanks for joining us.
  • 00:41:44.858 --> 00:41:48.162
  • >> thank you for helping us to share the story. it needs to be
  • 00:41:48.162 --> 00:41:51.732
  • Shared and god's presence that we're sensing right here. it is
  • 00:41:51.732 --> 00:41:55.035
  • Wonderful to sense the church at a distance, supporting the
  • 00:41:55.035 --> 00:41:58.973
  • Church that is local. and that's what we experienced this last
  • 00:41:58.973 --> 00:42:02.543
  • Several days.
  • 00:42:02.543 --> 00:42:04.445
  • >> so tell me, what has the what have the last few days been like
  • 00:42:04.445 --> 00:42:08.282
  • For you? you know, where were you when things happened and how
  • 00:42:08.282 --> 00:42:11.218
  • Were you brought into what was going on and how how are you
  • 00:42:11.218 --> 00:42:15.589
  • Doing?
  • 00:42:15.589 --> 00:42:17.725
  • >> we're doing as good as we can. we know that. we look to
  • 00:42:17.725 --> 00:42:20.995
  • The hills. where where does our help come from? it comes from
  • 00:42:20.995 --> 00:42:24.031
  • The lord. so we're relying on his strength and everything
  • 00:42:24.031 --> 00:42:26.667
  • That's taking place. on friday, we got a call early on to go to
  • 00:42:26.667 --> 00:42:31.472
  • One of our local elementary schools to just be there and to
  • 00:42:31.472 --> 00:42:34.608
  • Pray with people and say, we're waiting to hear about their
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  • Children. and through the 3 or 4 hours that we were there, we got
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  • Another call that they needed another place to set up as a
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  • Relocation center. and so we opened up our church, set up as
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  • Quickly as we could for parents to come to our place and come
  • 00:42:47.655 --> 00:42:51.258
  • Into our place. this was the group of parents that weren't
  • 00:42:51.258 --> 00:42:53.861
  • Being connected with their children right away. and we
  • 00:42:53.861 --> 00:42:57.231
  • Realized that this group of people needed to spend some time
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  • Together because they were going to be family over the next
  • 00:43:00.234 --> 00:43:02.870
  • Several days, and they found a place at our church that was
  • 00:43:02.870 --> 00:43:05.873
  • Kind of quiet from the community. the media didn't
  • 00:43:05.873 --> 00:43:08.175
  • Really know where they were and didn't know to come check on us,
  • 00:43:08.175 --> 00:43:11.712
  • And so we were able to provide a safe place for them, and they
  • 00:43:11.712 --> 00:43:14.748
  • Were able to come in, and they were great to have a place
  • 00:43:14.748 --> 00:43:18.786
  • There, the elementary school. but when they came to the
  • 00:43:18.786 --> 00:43:21.855
  • Church, they realized it was more of a home feel for them and
  • 00:43:21.855 --> 00:43:24.792
  • An almost an attitude of people that they love and love them.
  • 00:43:24.792 --> 00:43:27.628
  • And our church people had a chance to just surround them,
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  • And they had a place to sit and have their own space and grieve
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  • Together and hope together. and in doing so, they were in a
  • 00:43:34.635 --> 00:43:38.038
  • Place in their life to just open up and say, god, what can we do?
  • 00:43:38.038 --> 00:43:42.009
  • How can we continue to pray? it's interesting that they found
  • 00:43:42.009 --> 00:43:44.812
  • Their way to our worship center by themselves. off to go and
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  • Pray and listen and be in our worship center where we have a
  • 00:43:48.415 --> 00:43:51.585
  • Cross that was lit up several slip. they slept that night in
  • 00:43:51.585 --> 00:43:55.122
  • Our worship center. they slept on our in our in our facility.
  • 00:43:55.122 --> 00:43:58.492
  • Came back the rest of the day for the next day. and we're just
  • 00:43:58.492 --> 00:44:01.795
  • Here to be together. so the sheriff's department was one
  • 00:44:01.795 --> 00:44:04.198
  • That we were working with. they called us to ask if we would be
  • 00:44:04.198 --> 00:44:07.935
  • A place for them. we set up as quickly as we could, and they
  • 00:44:07.935 --> 00:44:11.772
  • Came and we were able to receive them with open arms. and for the
  • 00:44:11.772 --> 00:44:14.808
  • Next two and a half days, we grieved with them. we prayed
  • 00:44:14.808 --> 00:44:18.178
  • With them. they hoped that they would get word from the
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  • Sheriff's department and other local officials that they found
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  • Their children. as time went on, they they did find children, but
  • 00:44:22.783 --> 00:44:26.954
  • It wasn't the word that they wanted. and so we grieved with
  • 00:44:26.954 --> 00:44:30.290
  • Them and got to share with them in that time as well. for the
  • 00:44:30.290 --> 00:44:33.727
  • Next two and a half days, they were here with us. they were
  • 00:44:33.727 --> 00:44:36.830
  • With themselves together, and they prepared just for whatever
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  • Would take place. and as they left to go home sunday, most of
  • 00:44:39.433 --> 00:44:42.569
  • Them had already had an opportunity of hearing from a
  • 00:44:42.569 --> 00:44:45.773
  • Lot of what was taking place. they found several, but not all.
  • 00:44:45.773 --> 00:44:47.775
  • Some went home without knowing. so our prayer is still with
  • 00:44:47.775 --> 00:44:50.811
  • Those families that don't know where their children are. and
  • 00:44:50.811 --> 00:44:53.147
  • Our prayer is that god bring them all home. and we're hoping
  • 00:44:53.147 --> 00:44:55.983
  • And praying for that. we were blessed to get to be a part of
  • 00:44:55.983 --> 00:44:59.720
  • The church. our faith community here in kerrville is incredible.
  • 00:44:59.720 --> 00:45:02.556
  • Many churches were called upon. we just happen to be one who
  • 00:45:02.556 --> 00:45:05.058
  • Were called upon for a select group of people, and they came
  • 00:45:05.058 --> 00:45:07.828
  • And we were able to reach out and serve them and love on them.
  • 00:45:07.828 --> 00:45:11.665
  • And as they left, this is what we heard from them. they were
  • 00:45:11.665 --> 00:45:14.968
  • Going home. and they said, you know what? when we came here, we
  • 00:45:14.968 --> 00:45:18.005
  • Just felt like this was our, our, our living room. this was a
  • 00:45:18.005 --> 00:45:21.408
  • Place they felt comfortable and peaceful, and they were able to
  • 00:45:21.408 --> 00:45:24.411
  • Just sit and have their own space and spend time together. a
  • 00:45:24.411 --> 00:45:27.881
  • Lot of these parents didn't know each other, even though their
  • 00:45:27.881 --> 00:45:30.150
  • Children were at camp together. and before they knew this was a
  • 00:45:30.150 --> 00:45:32.953
  • Family that had bonded because of an experience. and we just
  • 00:45:32.953 --> 00:45:35.856
  • Got to bond with them. and our hearts are still with them as
  • 00:45:35.856 --> 00:45:38.759
  • We're waiting to hear word of what's taking place on the river
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  • Today.
  • 00:45:42.062 --> 00:45:43.363
  • >> it just feels so much like the heart of jesus to throw the
  • 00:45:43.363 --> 00:45:45.999
  • Church doors open and to invite people to come in and to find
  • 00:45:45.999 --> 00:45:49.403
  • Comfort. how can we best pray for you in the days ahead? what
  • 00:45:49.403 --> 00:45:54.041
  • Are the greatest needs?
  • 00:45:54.041 --> 00:45:56.009
  • >> well, you know the greatest things. you've already, i think,
  • 00:45:56.009 --> 00:45:58.545
  • Prayed for them already. our hearts are for these first
  • 00:45:58.545 --> 00:46:01.315
  • Responders, what they're doing on the river and what they're
  • 00:46:01.315 --> 00:46:03.884
  • Seeing and what they're doing. they're giving everything they
  • 00:46:03.884 --> 00:46:05.986
  • Can, doing the best that they can. and you know that that's
  • 00:46:05.986 --> 00:46:09.389
  • Our heart because they have to deal with it day in and day out.
  • 00:46:09.389 --> 00:46:12.826
  • Don't know, they get to lay it down because they're up the next
  • 00:46:12.826 --> 00:46:16.630
  • Day doing the same thing. we're still in that rescue and
  • 00:46:16.630 --> 00:46:18.999
  • Recovery time. and so our church was that place for them to come
  • 00:46:18.999 --> 00:46:22.135
  • And be here. we've transitioned now that now texans on missions
  • 00:46:22.135 --> 00:46:26.240
  • Have come to be on our campus facility, and they're setting up
  • 00:46:26.240 --> 00:46:29.710
  • Now to be ready for the next wave of relief and what they can
  • 00:46:29.710 --> 00:46:32.913
  • Do to help out.
  • 00:46:32.913 --> 00:46:34.615
  • >> wow. that's amazing. john, just let me ask, as a pastor who
  • 00:46:34.615 --> 00:46:37.217
  • Has walked for so many years with the lord, i'm thinking of
  • 00:46:37.217 --> 00:46:40.888
  • Some of our viewers who are walking through their own
  • 00:46:40.888 --> 00:46:43.423
  • Tragedies at the moment. what does this kind of tragedy do to
  • 00:46:43.423 --> 00:46:48.128
  • Your faith?
  • 00:46:48.128 --> 00:46:49.529
  • >> you know, i think the tragedies that we're facing
  • 00:46:49.529 --> 00:46:52.766
  • Right now are just day to day not knowing and also the day to
  • 00:46:52.766 --> 00:46:56.770
  • Day that we need the lord every day to do what we can to be in
  • 00:46:56.770 --> 00:47:00.841
  • The right places, at the right times, to have a good word, to
  • 00:47:00.841 --> 00:47:04.778
  • Share the hope that we have in christ is what we hold on to.
  • 00:47:04.778 --> 00:47:08.148
  • And we share that as often as we can. and just having that
  • 00:47:08.148 --> 00:47:12.452
  • Blessing to be the hands and feet of jesus knowing again that
  • 00:47:12.452 --> 00:47:13.787
  • We're the local church, being called upon now to be that close
  • 00:47:13.787 --> 00:47:17.090
  • Connection, that it's amazing. we have felt and sensed the
  • 00:47:17.090 --> 00:47:19.760
  • Church at a distance to be a part of this. and the church is
  • 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.297
  • Coming together, and we're so glad that texans on missions are
  • 00:47:23.297 --> 00:47:26.633
  • Here as well. we're here in front of the command center, and
  • 00:47:26.633 --> 00:47:29.169
  • Bob andrews is here also. and he's the guy that's in charge.
  • 00:47:29.169 --> 00:47:32.272
  • He's our blue cap in charge of all. the operation will be
  • 00:47:32.272 --> 00:47:34.708
  • Taking place next couple of days. i don't know if you want
  • 00:47:34.708 --> 00:47:38.645
  • To hear what they're going to do or not, but they're here on our
  • 00:47:38.645 --> 00:47:41.682
  • Campus to be the next wave.
  • 00:47:41.682 --> 00:47:43.250
  • >> oh that's fantastic. what are they going to do?
  • 00:47:43.250 --> 00:47:45.819
  • >> well, today has been our initial deployment day. we've
  • 00:47:45.819 --> 00:47:50.290
  • >> hey, nice to see you. i wonder if we can pick you up on
  • 00:47:50.290 --> 00:47:51.525
  • Brought in our infrastructure. infrastructure. we have our
  • 00:47:51.525 --> 00:47:54.628
  • This mic. just tell us what's what's the main thing that you
  • 00:47:54.628 --> 00:47:55.862
  • Command center behind us here. we have a shower and laundry
  • 00:47:55.862 --> 00:47:57.965
  • Hope to be able to do in the next few days?
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  • Unit, asset protection team, electrical folks, and we're kind
  • 00:47:59.166 --> 00:48:04.438
  • Of getting everything set up for our work teams to come in
  • 00:48:04.438 --> 00:48:09.843
  • Probably on wednesday. that's the plan. and between now and
  • 00:48:09.843 --> 00:48:15.282
  • Then, we'll start assessing the areas that have been damaged and
  • 00:48:15.282 --> 00:48:22.389
  • Need the assistance that we provide. we go in and clean out
  • 00:48:22.389 --> 00:48:27.361
  • The houses, do mold remediation and help the folks to develop a
  • 00:48:27.361 --> 00:48:33.834
  • Plan for how they restore their homes. and we're here to provide
  • 00:48:33.834 --> 00:48:38.705
  • Hope, healing and help.
  • 00:48:38.705 --> 00:48:40.674
  • >> texas men on a mission do the most phenomenal job. we are so
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  • Grateful for you. thank you. we will continue to pray for you so
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  • Much. thank you, sir, for what you are doing. and as you can
  • 00:48:47.581 --> 00:48:50.684
  • See, samaritan's purse are on the ground. there's a number
  • 00:48:50.684 --> 00:48:53.754
  • There on your screen that you can call. they need our help and
  • 00:48:53.754 --> 00:48:56.990
  • Our support at the moment. as you know, whenever something
  • 00:48:56.990 --> 00:49:00.260
  • Devastating happens, they are just the first people who are
  • 00:49:00.260 --> 00:49:03.163
  • There. in fact, i'm actually going to be joined by edward
  • 00:49:03.163 --> 00:49:05.632
  • Graham, who's the ceo of samaritan's purse, and he's just
  • 00:49:05.632 --> 00:49:09.703
  • Going to give us a little bit of an update as he heads out on the
  • 00:49:09.703 --> 00:49:14.174
  • Road as to what's ahead and what they're hoping to see happen.
  • 00:49:14.174 --> 00:49:16.676
  • So, edward, thanks for joining me.
  • 00:49:16.676 --> 00:49:19.613
  • >> thank you, sheila, and i appreciate you and tbn having me
  • 00:49:19.613 --> 00:49:22.416
  • On this evening. right now i'm actually in boone, north
  • 00:49:22.416 --> 00:49:25.185
  • Carolina, and i'm about to get on a plane and head to texas.
  • 00:49:25.185 --> 00:49:28.355
  • And as many of us enjoyed the 4th of july holiday, just the
  • 00:49:28.355 --> 00:49:32.125
  • Reports coming out of kerr county, texas, there in
  • 00:49:32.125 --> 00:49:34.828
  • Kerrville communities just breaks your heart. there's been
  • 00:49:34.828 --> 00:49:37.664
  • So much loss over 80 individuals right now. more than that have
  • 00:49:37.664 --> 00:49:42.335
  • Unfortunately lost their lives. and we've all heard the stories
  • 00:49:42.335 --> 00:49:45.572
  • About this little girl's camp, this christian camp, the head of
  • 00:49:45.572 --> 00:49:48.475
  • The camp who lost his life trying to save these girls. i
  • 00:49:48.475 --> 00:49:51.678
  • Can't imagine if you're a family member right now how much you're
  • 00:49:51.678 --> 00:49:54.581
  • Hurting and grieving right now for the loss of your loved ones
  • 00:49:54.581 --> 00:49:57.851
  • And samaritan's purse. we go during times like this in a
  • 00:49:57.851 --> 00:50:01.221
  • Crisis when those that are hurting and suffering, we go to
  • 00:50:01.221 --> 00:50:03.657
  • Places with equipment and resources not to do good works,
  • 00:50:03.657 --> 00:50:06.359
  • But to let people know they're loved and not forgotten, that
  • 00:50:06.359 --> 00:50:08.762
  • They're not forsaken. there's so much work to do right now in
  • 00:50:08.762 --> 00:50:12.199
  • This community, and i just ask that your listeners be praying.
  • 00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.769
  • I believe in the power of prayer, and often you'll hear
  • 00:50:15.769 --> 00:50:18.772
  • People you know make fun of hopes and prayers during a time
  • 00:50:18.772 --> 00:50:22.109
  • Like this. but that's exactly what this community needs. they
  • 00:50:22.109 --> 00:50:24.811
  • Need the love of the church to come around and lift them up.
  • 00:50:24.811 --> 00:50:29.049
  • After years of combat and seeing disasters all over the world, i
  • 00:50:29.049 --> 00:50:33.553
  • Personally don't have answers for a lot of this. you know that
  • 00:50:33.553 --> 00:50:37.224
  • Comes out of my own life. but scripture does. and my hopes in
  • 00:50:37.224 --> 00:50:39.793
  • My lord and savior and he knows these people are hurting. he
  • 00:50:39.793 --> 00:50:42.896
  • Knows that these little girls are loved and that they were
  • 00:50:42.896 --> 00:50:45.599
  • Valued and they were treasured. and he knows that the families
  • 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:48.969
  • Are suffering. but we go with our volunteers and we partner
  • 00:50:48.969 --> 00:50:51.171
  • With the local churches, and we'll go in and we'll muck out
  • 00:50:51.171 --> 00:50:53.840
  • And we'll clean out homes and those that have lost their
  • 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.743
  • Homes. reports over 150 to 200 homes destroyed. but our desire
  • 00:50:56.743 --> 00:51:00.413
  • Is just to come alongside and let these homeowners and those
  • 00:51:00.413 --> 00:51:03.350
  • That have lost let them know they're not forsaken, they're
  • 00:51:03.350 --> 00:51:06.586
  • Not forgotten. matter of fact, god loves them so much. he sent
  • 00:51:06.586 --> 00:51:10.090
  • His only son, his only son, to die on a cross. and that's why
  • 00:51:10.090 --> 00:51:13.026
  • We go to share the hope of the gospel and the name of jesus
  • 00:51:13.026 --> 00:51:16.796
  • Christ. but we can't do this without you. i ask your
  • 00:51:16.796 --> 00:51:19.432
  • Volunteers to be again praying for this part of texas, but pray
  • 00:51:19.432 --> 00:51:22.169
  • If you're available, go to samaritan's purse.org and you
  • 00:51:22.169 --> 00:51:25.305
  • Can sign up and volunteer. i need people willing to get
  • 00:51:25.305 --> 00:51:28.375
  • Dirty, willing to put on the work gloves. we have the
  • 00:51:28.375 --> 00:51:31.411
  • Equipment. we have the resources. many are watching and
  • 00:51:31.411 --> 00:51:33.446
  • Want to know. i just want to contribute. i'd want to help.
  • 00:51:33.446 --> 00:51:37.017
  • I'm praying for this community, but i wish i could do something.
  • 00:51:37.017 --> 00:51:39.653
  • Well, here's your chance. our volunteers. we have our
  • 00:51:39.653 --> 00:51:42.622
  • Equipment and everything's loaded up and gotten there. it's
  • 00:51:42.622 --> 00:51:45.225
  • Actually at a local church in the area, and we'll live at that
  • 00:51:45.225 --> 00:51:48.728
  • Local church. but we're looking for local volunteers and people
  • 00:51:48.728 --> 00:51:51.698
  • Willing to sign up and stay overnight at the church and go
  • 00:51:51.698 --> 00:51:54.634
  • Out with our teams, and we're going to begin work tomorrow.
  • 00:51:54.634 --> 00:51:57.771
  • We've already got teams on the ground, and our work orders
  • 00:51:57.771 --> 00:52:00.440
  • Begin tomorrow. but i'd ask that your listeners pray to get
  • 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.110
  • Involved and continue to pray for those that are suffering.
  • 00:52:04.110 --> 00:52:07.080
  • Thank you.
  • 00:52:07.080 --> 00:52:08.081
  • >> thanks, edward. and absolutely what a what a
  • 00:52:08.081 --> 00:52:09.916
  • Rallying call. let's do that. i remember when barry, my husband
  • 00:52:09.916 --> 00:52:13.553
  • And christian, our son, and i volunteered with samaritan's
  • 00:52:13.553 --> 00:52:17.457
  • Purse. it was actually in a devastating tornado that had
  • 00:52:17.457 --> 00:52:20.694
  • Impacted just south of oklahoma. and i have to tell you, there
  • 00:52:20.694 --> 00:52:23.763
  • Was something so beautiful about the way that they are very
  • 00:52:23.763 --> 00:52:27.300
  • Efficient. they know what they're doing. they don't waste
  • 00:52:27.300 --> 00:52:30.070
  • Time. they know what works. they know what doesn't work. but
  • 00:52:30.070 --> 00:52:33.073
  • After they clear off a home area because most of the stuff is
  • 00:52:33.073 --> 00:52:36.543
  • Lost, they make sure that they leave a bible. it's like the
  • 00:52:36.543 --> 00:52:40.080
  • First thing in your new home is a bible. and then we had the
  • 00:52:40.080 --> 00:52:44.851
  • Privilege of gathering around the homeowners and praying for
  • 00:52:44.851 --> 00:52:47.787
  • Them. so do pray for samaritan's purse. please give. and if you
  • 00:52:47.787 --> 00:52:52.058
  • Live close by, please volunteer. it's scripture says it's more
  • 00:52:52.058 --> 00:52:55.929
  • Blessed to give than receive, but it's only when you really do
  • 00:52:55.929 --> 00:52:59.566
  • It. you discover how true that is. you know, i was looking on
  • 00:52:59.566 --> 00:53:03.136
  • Camp mystics website today as i was praying for their staff. i
  • 00:53:03.136 --> 00:53:07.674
  • Wanted to see their faces, but i came across something that on
  • 00:53:07.674 --> 00:53:11.478
  • That final evening at camp mystic, this is the way that day
  • 00:53:11.478 --> 00:53:16.783
  • Would have ended. and with a loving, calming message, as it
  • 00:53:16.783 --> 00:53:21.888
  • Did for many, many, many years. the message each one of these
  • 00:53:21.888 --> 00:53:26.860
  • Little girls would have heard as they went to sleep that night
  • 00:53:26.860 --> 00:53:31.264
  • Was good night. camp mystic. for those of us who have placed our
  • 00:53:31.264 --> 00:53:36.870
  • Trust in christ, we have this promise, this hope. from
  • 00:53:36.870 --> 00:53:43.610
  • Revelation chapter 21. he will wipe every tear from their eyes.
  • 00:53:43.610 --> 00:53:49.983
  • There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for
  • 00:53:49.983 --> 00:53:56.222
  • The old order of things has passed away. behold, everything
  • 00:53:56.222 --> 00:54:02.595
  • Is made new. let's continue to pray for those who are suffering
  • 00:54:02.595 --> 00:54:08.201
  • And struggling. let's put it on a piece of paper where we'll put
  • 00:54:08.201 --> 00:54:12.706
  • It on a sticky note where you'll see it. continue to pray for the
  • 00:54:12.706 --> 00:54:16.142
  • First responders. pray for samaritan's purse. give what you
  • 00:54:16.142 --> 00:54:19.179
  • Can, volunteer where you can. but i was reading this beautiful
  • 00:54:19.179 --> 00:54:24.751
  • Blessing that moses gave to aaron, to the this priestly
  • 00:54:24.751 --> 00:54:29.589
  • Blessing that we find in numbers chapter six. and so i want to
  • 00:54:29.589 --> 00:54:34.728
  • Pray over you tonight. you know, matt and lori and the whole
  • 00:54:34.728 --> 00:54:38.631
  • Family here at tbn. we are here because we love you. we're here
  • 00:54:38.631 --> 00:54:43.269
  • Because we have a calling, the same calling that has been on
  • 00:54:43.269 --> 00:54:46.673
  • Our lives for 50 years. when paul and jan said yes to a dream
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  • That was far too big for them. but that's what happens when you
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  • Say yes to god. and so on behalf of all of us here at tv and we
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  • Pray this blessing over you, the lord bless you and keep you. the
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  • Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you. the lord
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  • Turn his face toward you and give you peace. in jesus name,
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