Beth Moore - Yet For Love's Sake (Part 2)

December 24, 2024 | S

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  • I don't care how big we're growing in our business,
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  • In our work, in our family, in esteem,
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  • In public platforms, in government.
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  • I don't care.
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  • Because if we're not moving forward in transformation,
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  • We're not moving forward.
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  • There are so many things i love about paul in this letter
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  • That i can barely stand it.
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  • I love this part.
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  • Look with me in verse 8:
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  • "accordingly, though i am bold enough in christ
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  • "to command you to do what is required,
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  • Yet for love's sake,"
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  • Everybody say those four words,
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  • "i prefer to appeal to you--i,
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  • "paul, an old man
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  • And now a prisoner also for christ jesus,"
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  • "i, paul, an old man."
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  • I say this to my girls all the time:
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  • Not man, but woman.
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  • I say to them anytime i have to have them
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  • Prefer me over themselves, over absolutely anything.
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  • For instance, it might be that i'm the one
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  • That ended up getting to wear the top instead of melissa,
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  • And i say to her--she says, "mother, that's my top."
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  • "i know it's your top.
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  • Your mother is old.
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  • "you're always a step ahead of me because you are your age,
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  • I am my age."
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  • I said, "we always--what does mother tell you?
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  • We always prefer mother."
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  • So we go back and forth.
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  • It's sort of a joke, but you know what?
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  • We put them first all this time.
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  • It comes--there comes a time for the tables to turn.
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  • And then it--there does, there does.
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  • And then it's just like, "your mother is old!
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  • Your mother is old."
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  • Now, i don't know if y'all like this kind of stuff,
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  • But i, i really do.
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  • I want to show you, for somebody that's new to bible study,
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  • I want you to know something.
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  • This is something that i find fascinating.
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  • I hope you'll think it is too.
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  • The bible was not inspired in english.
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  • It was inspired and given to the original writers,
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  • This sacred, this holy word, this god-breathed speech
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  • On the page was given in the old testament in hebrew
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  • And a little bit of aramaic and the new testament in greek.
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  • And so, one reason why we'll pull out a word to see what
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  • It means in that language is the same thing it would be
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  • In spanish or in, in french when we were going for something
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  • That means--that has a little bit of a different nuance
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  • To that particular language that we don't have.
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  • It's just a beautiful way to do it.
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  • And i want to show you what's happening here because
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  • There are different ages that are, that are referred to
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  • In the new testament, and i want you to see what they are.
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  • There's "teknon," teknon.
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  • When that particular word is translated in the new testament,
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  • It will be "child."
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  • This word is used when he says, in verse 10,
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  • "i appeal to you for my child, onesimus--"
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  • He is using that particular word.
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  • Travis is like a son to me.
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  • He's like--i mean, that's--i will sometimes just teasingly
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  • Lean over to the rest of my team when he's up singing,
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  • And i'll "go," "that is my boy."
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  • I know that he is a grown man, but he is my loved one,
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  • And so, there's that maternal feeling.
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  • It's going into play here.
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  • The next word, "neanias," it is used in terms of
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  • A youth or a young man
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  • With the emphasis being on being in the prime age of life,
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  • So this would be-- it's used for paul
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  • In acts chapter 7, in verse 58,
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  • When it says that while they were stoning stephen,
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  • That their cloaks were laid at the feet
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  • Of a young man named saul.
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  • That is the word that would-- that is right there
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  • Translated into "young man" is neanias.
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  • The next one, you see that word that looks like presbytes.
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  • It would be pronounced "presbytes," "presbytes,"
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  • And it is used right here as an "old man."
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  • And then the last one is geron, "geron," and that means "agent."
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  • And so, you know that in this room
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  • And certainly on the other side of that screen,
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  • You are falling into one of these categories.
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  • Now, it's a wonderful thing, and i wanna speak once again
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  • To those of us who are of seasoned years,
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  • Because it goes to show in spiritual terms
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  • We're all abraham's and sarah's, every single one of us.
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  • We can still be bearing spiritual offspring
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  • When we are 90 years old
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  • If we got a mind to stay in the things of the faith.
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  • Do you have spiritual mentors, people that can take you
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  • Under their wing and raise you up in the faith?
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  • And are you someone else's?
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  • You come alongside me and think i don't--
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  • What would i have to give 'em?
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  • I have a good friend.
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  • You know how she mentors women in the faith?
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  • She teaches those women how to cook,
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  • And right there in her kitchen,
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  • She's got one of those islands right in the middle
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  • Of her larger kitchen, she said right there,
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  • Rolling out pie dough, right there in the crust,
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  • Right there marinating the chicken,
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  • Without anybody looking at anybody,
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  • Working on the food,
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  • Talking about the things of the faith.
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  • In very challenging personal relationships,
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  • You got so much to bring.
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  • And we got so much need coming together as those generations
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  • Whose father i became.
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  • This is--one thing i want you to see here is that
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  • He's just dripping with affection.
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  • This is something so important to see about the apostle paul.
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  • I don't know what you may associate with him,
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  • But in the new testament, he is associated
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  • With somewhere around 100 names,
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  • And this was way, way before social media.
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  • This is a man who had relationships.
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  • He was loved by these people, and he loved them.
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  • He called titus and timothy, "my dear children."
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  • It was dripping with affection.
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  • He's doing the same thing here: "onesimus,
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  • "whose father i became
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  • In my imprisonment."
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  • I love how eugene peterson's translation says it
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  • In the message: "while here in jail,
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  • "i fathered a child, so to speak.
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  • And here he is, hand-carrying this letter--onesimus!"
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  • We can bear spiritual children well into our old age.
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  • That brings us to number three, and it's this:
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  • Involving other eyes on all sides
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  • Is genius in volatile matters.
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  • This is a word to take home with you.
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  • Listen, this is an important word at christmastime
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  • Or any other.
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  • Did you notice that at the beginning of the letter,
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  • Paul addresses it to philemon, "my beloved fellow worker,"
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  • Apphia, who is most likely, most commentators will say
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  • It's just almost obvious that this is a husband and a wife,
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  • "apphia our sister," and "archippus are fellow soldier."
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  • In all likelihood, that is their son.
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  • And then he says, "enter the church in your house."
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  • So it's a personal letter, but he says at the very end of it,
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  • "give greetings to these,
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  • And these are sending greetings to you."
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  • So he's saying there's gonna be accountability here.
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  • He says from the very beginning
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  • That he is writing it alongside timothy.
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  • In other words, timothy, who is well respected,
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  • Very well respected.
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  • "timothy is right with me.
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  • "he knows i'm writing you, and i'm asking you this.
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  • "these are my fellow workers.
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  • "they are very aware.
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  • "and i'm writing you, and i'm asking you,
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  • Would you give them my greetings?"
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  • Because you know what he's saying?
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  • "i would really love them to know about this letter,
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  • "because i'm holding you accountable to something
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  • Of very profound importance."
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  • I want you to notice with me that
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  • When the new testament church was born,
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  • It turned the social order completely upside down.
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  • And it bears such importance for us to hear today,
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  • And it bears such importance for us to hear particularly
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  • At this time of year, that in christ,
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  • It's family,
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  • It's family.
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  • There is no more caste system.
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  • There is no one, no matter how much money and how little,
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  • That is ever better than another.
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  • We are family.
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  • We are family.
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  • We are brother and sister.
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  • This is your blood kin.
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  • And the most important part of it, "yet for love's sake,"
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  • This is what's gonna annoy us, because this is where
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  • The letter gets the traction that calls everybody
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  • Past what they are able.
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  • 'cause let me tell you something.
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  • He's not just calling philemon to do what is right.
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  • The law says, "do what is right."
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  • Christ says, "do what is grace!"
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  • You and i have been called much,
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  • Much further in our relationships
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  • And in our dealings than to simply do the right thing.
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  • He's out in christ.
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  • Our love is sacrificial, "yet for love's sake."
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  • What is it?
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  • When was the last time something because of christ pushed
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  • You past where you knew you were even capable of going,
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  • That you literally, that part of you
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  • Was exercised strictly for love's sake
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  • And for the sake of showing christ's likeness?
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  • Here's the thing, 'cause we want to say today--originally
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  • In my notes, i wrote down that the reason why i wanted to make
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  • A huge distinction between just doing what is right
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  • And doing what paul is calling upon philemon to do.
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  • Because he is essentially saying to him,
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  • "i'm gonna send him back to you.
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  • "i'm gonna do what i feel like is the thing
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  • "that i have got to do to respect you.
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  • He has run away from you, probably taken his things."
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  • He said, "i'm going to send him back to you,
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  • "but when i send him back to you i am asking you to receive him,
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  • Not as your slave, but as your very brother."
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  • And he's calling him past-- i mean, he had any right.
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  • The law would have given him any right to do anything he wanted
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  • With onesimus when he knocked on that door, anything he wanted,
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  • No obligation whatsoever to the law.
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  • Yet paul was saying, "i'm asking you, you do the thing,
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  • "not just that it's right, you do the thing that is christlike,
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  • The thing that is christlike."
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  • So, earlier in my notes, i was gonna put--because these days,
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  • Everybody's got their own idea of what they think is right.
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  • And then you know what the lord caught me on?
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  • God reminded me.
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  • You know how the word of god says
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  • The holy spirit will remind you?
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  • God reminded me of that passage at the very end
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  • Of the book of judges that says, "and every man just did what
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  • Was right in his own eyes," and it was mass pandemonium.
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  • There was so much evil, so much licentiousness,
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  • That it was, it was shocking,
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  • Even in terms of what we would call astonishing today.
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  • No, no, right is not enough.
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  • Christ isn't just going, "do the right thing."
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  • No, he's saying, "christlikeness, christlike."
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  • What is christlike?
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  • What would he do?
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  • What would his love look like in this situation?
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  • What would push us past?
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  • What would just be the right thing into
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  • "no, no, no, this is what would take jesus in me to do?"
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  • What relationships do you have that you could tell me today
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  • And that i could tell you to do--today require jesus
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  • For you to conduct them?
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  • I asked you today, do you have relationships that literally
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  • Require jesus for you to conduct those relationships?
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  • Can i see anybody's hand in the house?
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  • Anybody's hand in the choir?
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  • Oh yeah.
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  • Oh that's where it starts showing.
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  • And we wonder why, we wonder why
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  • Because that's where
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  • Christ starts showing up.
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  • ♪ there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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  • ♪ i will shout and sing ♪
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  • ♪ let my praise be worthy of my king ♪
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  • ♪ there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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  • ♪ let the earth proclaim ♪♪
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  • Hi, i'm beth moore, bible teacher, author,
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  • And founder of living proof ministries.
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  • I'm gonna tell you this from a standpoint
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  • Of having done this for 25 years.
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  • I am more afraid of missing what god has for this group
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  • Than i am of going out there to serve them.
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  • One of my favorite things to hear from people
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  • That have attended is, "he spoke straight into what i needed."
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  • And i believe he can do that.
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  • I think that if there are 800 people there or there were
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  • 2,000 people there, he can do that with each one.
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  • I love occasionally during our time of worship
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  • To just glance around the room and i wonder to myself,
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  • What's going on in that heart?
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  • When we get away from our usual course of life
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  • And we set ourselves to really listen and pay attention,
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  • There is just no limit to what he would do.
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  • And i believe god is so good that
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  • If we will come attentively,
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  • He will not pass us by.
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  • I've got to tell you a couple of fun mandisa things
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  • Because he is right, we do come together and pray
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  • Because we're scared to death of what god's called us to do,
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  • Just scared to death of it.
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  • And so, boy, you better believe it.
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  • We're taking it seriously, and we're back there
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  • Just crying out, and we usually take the elements together.
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  • And, and she's such a woman of prayer, and very--i don't
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  • Know why, but very often, i'm totally in the throes
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  • Of prayer but my eyes might be open.
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  • And so, one of the things i loved about mandisa is that
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  • The deeper she got into prayer-- this would be when she was--
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  • (beth) because anybody in our praise team,
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  • It's just the-- it's just the platform team
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  • That's back there, and they're-- anybody, anybody can pray,
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  • But when it would get to be her time,
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  • The more earnest she would get in prayer,
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  • The more the spirit would fall upon her,
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  • Then she'd start lifting this foot here,
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  • And it would just go up like this,
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  • And it would just go up like this, go up like this.
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  • And i would just watch it, because i'd always know
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  • That it's the spirit rising right there.
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  • That's the spirit rising right here.
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  • And so, i always just love it.
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  • I thought, we're not ready, we're not ready to go out there
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  • Until mandisa's foot rises!
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  • It's the foot rise.
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  • And so, tonight, when we were all praying together,
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  • I was going, "rise, foot rise!"
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  • I don't know how you got away with not being with us
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  • That weekend, because i remember you snuck away
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  • And didn't tell us that you are auditioning for "american idol."
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  • She did not tell us.
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  • She went away and didn't tell us.
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  • But we were together.
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  • The rest of us were together, right?
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  • And all of a sudden, we're together, and she calls,
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  • And she's like, "guess where i am!"
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  • And we're like, "i don't know where you are."
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  • She goes, "i'm standing outside of the audition room.
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  • I just got sent to hollywood on 'american idol.'"
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  • And we freaked out.
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  • Of course...we knew it was just a matter of time.
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  • Yeah, we did.
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  • We knew we were gonna lose her.
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  • We knew we were gonna lose her.
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  • We knew that we'd probably be working for her one day.
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  • We did--no,
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  • That is the absolute truth, and i'm gonna tell--again,
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  • I wanna come back to this, because you know this voice.
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  • And one of the things, 'cause one of the things i always
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  • Remember is that she would hit a certain note
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  • That would just bring the house down,
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  • I mean, bring the house down every single time.
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  • But as she spent more time with us, she got to where
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  • She would talk a little bit before we did particular songs.
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  • So, she would kinda take the microphone,
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  • And, trav, that's when we knew.
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  • That's when we knew that, that she wasn't just gonna sing.
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  • She could bring it, i mean, bring it.
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  • And we looked at one another.
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  • We don't even remember who said it anymore.
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  • We looked at one another and went,
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  • "we will both work for her."
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  • And i'll never forget when one time we were with her and
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  • We went, "yes, we are both, it is like we are working for her."
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  • Otherwise, we were just like watching people respond to her,
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  • And it was just unbelievable.
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  • I'll never forget.
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  • I want you to know--first of all, i'm really blushing,
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  • And i'm a black girl, and that actually
  • 00:19:31.085 --> 00:19:32.620
  • Is saying a lot when a black girl blushes.
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  • I just found some old journals, and i was speaking at an event
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  • Yesterday, and i was speaking about the process, the journey,
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  • Of how i ended up where i was.
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  • And i found some old journals from 2002, and i was weeping
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  • As i read it, because so many notes that i took sitting under
  • 00:19:49.604 --> 00:19:53.140
  • Your teaching and so many stories that i wrote
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  • Of what i was learning from you, and i am fully convinced
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  • That the lord knew exactly what he was doing.
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  • It's why he told me to come and work at lifeway
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  • Even though i had a degree.
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  • It's why he had travis call me up at lifeway.
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  • It's why i got to sit under your teaching for 4 1/2 years.
  • 00:20:10.291 --> 00:20:13.461
  • It's because you all were such an integral part
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  • Of where i am today and what i have learned.
  • 00:20:15.763 --> 00:20:18.199
  • And just the other day, somebody was talking to me about
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  • How the word just kind of comes off my tongue, and i said,
  • 00:20:21.602 --> 00:20:24.605
  • "i want you to know, i get that from koinonia fellowship
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  • With beth moore."
  • 00:20:27.308 --> 00:20:28.676
  • Because if there's anybody who loves the word--i've never met
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  • Anybody who loves the word of god more than you.
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  • And i remember you teaching on koinonia fellowship.
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  • Remember tammy?
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  • Tammy and i were sitting there taking notes, and you said that
  • 00:20:38.185 --> 00:20:41.355
  • Koinonia fellowship that when you spend time with somebody
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  • And you can actually say to jesus,
  • 00:20:44.058 --> 00:20:46.193
  • "holy spirit, let me have what that is.
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  • Give me that, that she has," and i prayed that.
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  • And i want you to know i love the word of god,
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  • And it's because i sat under the teaching of you,
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  • And the holy spirit just give me--gave me everything.
  • 00:20:56.237 --> 00:20:58.706
  • And learned so much from you as a worship leader.
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  • And honestly, i don't think i would be where i am today
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  • If it weren't for you two.
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  • (beth) no, we just had a blast.
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  • Trav, anything?
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  • Well, i'm just, i'm just struck by--
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  • I kept thinking of mandisa's story, and, you know,
  • 00:21:12.420 --> 00:21:17.291
  • Just hearing it fresh tonight, it renews my faith even.
  • 00:21:17.291 --> 00:21:21.829
  • But i think about the verse that says, "man makes his plans,
  • 00:21:21.829 --> 00:21:24.965
  • But the lord directs his steps."
  • 00:21:24.965 --> 00:21:26.600
  • And we make our plans, women make their plans,
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  • But the lord directs your steps.
  • 00:21:29.770 --> 00:21:34.075
  • And there is not something that would cause the lord
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  • To favor mandisa over you or to favor beth over you.
  • 00:21:39.380 --> 00:21:43.184
  • They don't have a secret code that you don't.
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  • They don't have a gift that's more important than yours.
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  • You have full access to an abundant life right now,
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  • And it doesn't, it may not look like exactly
  • 00:21:53.861 --> 00:21:57.698
  • What you think it looks--should look like.
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  • You may walk through seasons of one heartache after another.
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  • I think about the quote that you say a lot.
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  • I've heard you say it, and i think about it:
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  • "the goal of life is not the absence of pain."
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  • God has not said, "i want you to have a safe, pain-free life."
  • 00:22:12.980 --> 00:22:17.952
  • The lord wants you to have a victorious life
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  • And a full life.
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  • And sometimes the only way that you can get there
  • 00:22:23.190 --> 00:22:25.659
  • Is through pain.
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  • It's through loneliness.
  • 00:22:27.027 --> 00:22:28.696
  • And those seasons are ordained.
  • 00:22:28.696 --> 00:22:30.731
  • But as you think about--you know, i just think about--i was
  • 00:22:30.731 --> 00:22:33.667
  • Looking at mandisa and hearing her tell the story and i'm like,
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  • She's a puzzle, this puzzle piece, this puzzle piece,
  • 00:22:36.937 --> 00:22:39.273
  • Puzzle piece, puzzle piece, puzzle piece, puzzle piece,
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  • Puzzle piece, puzzle piece.
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  • We are all pieces, and we come together as the body of christ,
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  • And we can't do it without each other.
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  • Have you ever put, you know, like one of those thousand-piece
  • 00:22:50.384 --> 00:22:53.387
  • Puzzles at christmas time, and you get to the end,
  • 00:22:53.387 --> 00:22:55.589
  • And there's a puzzle missing?
  • 00:22:55.589 --> 00:22:56.924
  • It drives you insane. i mean there's a piece missing.
  • 00:22:56.924 --> 00:22:59.059
  • It drives you insane.
  • 00:22:59.059 --> 00:23:00.461
  • It's just not complete without you.
  • 00:23:00.461 --> 00:23:02.897
  • And your piece matters as much as mandisa's, as much as beth's,
  • 00:23:02.897 --> 00:23:07.168
  • As much as mine.
  • 00:23:07.168 --> 00:23:08.669
  • And so, stepping into that obedience, even in--
  • 00:23:08.669 --> 00:23:11.972
  • Even in the painful times, even in the hard times,
  • 00:23:11.972 --> 00:23:15.309
  • And just trying to find a new place of surrender,
  • 00:23:15.309 --> 00:23:19.280
  • And surrender to what the lord would have for you
  • 00:23:19.280 --> 00:23:22.416
  • And watch him birth beautiful things out of your surrender,
  • 00:23:22.416 --> 00:23:25.686
  • Even in the dark places, and just to really live,
  • 00:23:25.686 --> 00:23:29.924
  • Just to really live, to really take him at his world, to show
  • 00:23:29.924 --> 00:23:33.861
  • Up at church on sunday and go, "okay, i may look foolish,
  • 00:23:33.861 --> 00:23:37.431
  • "but i'm gonna throw my hands up in the air,
  • 00:23:37.431 --> 00:23:39.733
  • "i'm gonna throw my head back, and i'm gonna give you
  • 00:23:39.733 --> 00:23:42.236
  • "everything i have in worship this morning.
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  • I'm gonna give you everything i have in worship today,"
  • 00:23:44.472 --> 00:23:47.007
  • And just go for it in the spirit.
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  • What do you have to lose?
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  • Nothing, and you have everything to gain.
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  • Go and take that which the lord has put before you
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  • To walk in fullness and freedom.
  • 00:23:57.718 --> 00:24:00.020
  • And you may direct, you may make your plans, but the lord will
  • 00:24:00.020 --> 00:24:03.624
  • Direct your steps, and that surrender will take you there.
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  • (beth) that is so good, that is so good,
  • 00:24:07.161 --> 00:24:08.963
  • Praise god, praise god.
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  • ♪ now in the hope of who you are ♪
  • 00:24:14.101 --> 00:24:19.773
  • ♪ and in the peace you give my heart ♪
  • 00:24:19.773 --> 00:24:25.779
  • ♪ to think that love would come so far ♪
  • 00:24:25.779 --> 00:24:31.385
  • ♪ this hallelujah star ♪
  • 00:24:31.385 --> 00:24:38.425
  • ♪ oh hallelujah ♪
  • 00:24:41.228 --> 00:24:44.598
  • ♪ oh, there is joy, joy, joy ♪
  • 00:24:44.598 --> 00:24:49.603
  • ♪ i will shout and sing ♪
  • 00:24:49.603 --> 00:24:52.406
  • ♪ let my praise be worthy of my king ♪
  • 00:24:52.406 --> 00:24:58.412
  • ♪ there is joy, joy, joy ♪
  • 00:24:58.412 --> 00:25:01.515
  • ♪ let the earth proclaim ♪
  • 00:25:01.515 --> 00:25:04.818
  • ♪ singing glory to god on this christmas day ♪
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  • ♪ oh, there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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  • ♪ i will shout and sing ♪
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  • ♪ and my praise be worthy of my king ♪
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  • ♪ there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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  • ♪ let the earth proclaim ♪
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  • ♪ singing glory to god on this christmas day ♪
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  • ♪ singing glory to god ♪
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  • ♪ on this christmas day ♪
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  • ♪ on this christmas day ♪
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  • ♪ joy to the world ♪
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  • ♪ on this christmas day ♪♪
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  • Merry christmas!
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  • Psalm 126:1 says, "the lord has done great things for us,
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  • And we are filled with joy."
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  • This is the verse that came to mind as i prepared
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  • To share an end-of-the-year update with you.
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  • It has been a tremendous privilege to serve you
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  • Through this television program for the past 9 years.
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  • There is truly no greater joy than to open god's word
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  • With you each week and delight in the lord together.
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  • At the end of 2024, we will be signing off of tbn.
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  • I never in my wildest dreams
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  • Thought god would open this door to have a television program.
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  • It has been such a blast and such a grace gift.
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  • In seeking the lord for the future
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  • Of living proof ministries,
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  • We have felt our time here was complete.
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  • We plan to continue uploading new teaching content
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  • To our youtube channel and living proof app.
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  • We hope so much you'll join us there.
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  • Thank you for the privilege to serve you.
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  • I do not take this opportunity lightly.
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  • On behalf of our entire team
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  • At living proof ministries,
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  • We pray god's richest blessings over you.
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