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Living Proof with Beth Moore | Beth Moore - Yet For Love's Sake (Part 2) | December 24, 2024
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- I don't care how big we're growing in our business,
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- In our work, in our family, in esteem,
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- In public platforms, in government.
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- I don't care.
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- Because if we're not moving forward in transformation,
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- We're not moving forward.
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- There are so many things i love about paul in this letter
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- That i can barely stand it.
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- I love this part.
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- Look with me in verse 8:
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- "accordingly, though i am bold enough in christ
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- "to command you to do what is required,
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- Yet for love's sake,"
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- Everybody say those four words,
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- "i prefer to appeal to you--i,
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- "paul, an old man
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- And now a prisoner also for christ jesus,"
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- "i, paul, an old man."
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- I say this to my girls all the time:
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- Not man, but woman.
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- I say to them anytime i have to have them
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- Prefer me over themselves, over absolutely anything.
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- For instance, it might be that i'm the one
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- That ended up getting to wear the top instead of melissa,
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- And i say to her--she says, "mother, that's my top."
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- "i know it's your top.
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- Your mother is old.
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- "you're always a step ahead of me because you are your age,
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- I am my age."
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- I said, "we always--what does mother tell you?
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- We always prefer mother."
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- So we go back and forth.
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- It's sort of a joke, but you know what?
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- We put them first all this time.
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- It comes--there comes a time for the tables to turn.
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- And then it--there does, there does.
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- And then it's just like, "your mother is old!
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- Your mother is old."
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- Now, i don't know if y'all like this kind of stuff,
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- But i, i really do.
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- I want to show you, for somebody that's new to bible study,
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- I want you to know something.
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- This is something that i find fascinating.
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- I hope you'll think it is too.
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- The bible was not inspired in english.
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- It was inspired and given to the original writers,
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- This sacred, this holy word, this god-breathed speech
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- On the page was given in the old testament in hebrew
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- And a little bit of aramaic and the new testament in greek.
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- And so, one reason why we'll pull out a word to see what
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- It means in that language is the same thing it would be
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- In spanish or in, in french when we were going for something
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- That means--that has a little bit of a different nuance
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- To that particular language that we don't have.
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- It's just a beautiful way to do it.
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- And i want to show you what's happening here because
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- There are different ages that are, that are referred to
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- In the new testament, and i want you to see what they are.
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- There's "teknon," teknon.
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- When that particular word is translated in the new testament,
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- It will be "child."
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- This word is used when he says, in verse 10,
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- "i appeal to you for my child, onesimus--"
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- He is using that particular word.
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- Travis is like a son to me.
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- He's like--i mean, that's--i will sometimes just teasingly
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- Lean over to the rest of my team when he's up singing,
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- And i'll "go," "that is my boy."
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- I know that he is a grown man, but he is my loved one,
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- And so, there's that maternal feeling.
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- It's going into play here.
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- The next word, "neanias," it is used in terms of
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- A youth or a young man
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- With the emphasis being on being in the prime age of life,
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- So this would be-- it's used for paul
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- In acts chapter 7, in verse 58,
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- When it says that while they were stoning stephen,
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- That their cloaks were laid at the feet
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- Of a young man named saul.
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- That is the word that would-- that is right there
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- Translated into "young man" is neanias.
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- The next one, you see that word that looks like presbytes.
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- It would be pronounced "presbytes," "presbytes,"
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- And it is used right here as an "old man."
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- And then the last one is geron, "geron," and that means "agent."
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- And so, you know that in this room
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- And certainly on the other side of that screen,
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- You are falling into one of these categories.
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- Now, it's a wonderful thing, and i wanna speak once again
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- To those of us who are of seasoned years,
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- Because it goes to show in spiritual terms
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- We're all abraham's and sarah's, every single one of us.
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- We can still be bearing spiritual offspring
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- When we are 90 years old
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- If we got a mind to stay in the things of the faith.
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- Do you have spiritual mentors, people that can take you
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- Under their wing and raise you up in the faith?
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- And are you someone else's?
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- You come alongside me and think i don't--
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- What would i have to give 'em?
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- I have a good friend.
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- You know how she mentors women in the faith?
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- She teaches those women how to cook,
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- And right there in her kitchen,
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- She's got one of those islands right in the middle
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- Of her larger kitchen, she said right there,
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- Rolling out pie dough, right there in the crust,
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- Right there marinating the chicken,
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- Without anybody looking at anybody,
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- Working on the food,
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- Talking about the things of the faith.
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- In very challenging personal relationships,
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- You got so much to bring.
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- And we got so much need coming together as those generations
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- Whose father i became.
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- This is--one thing i want you to see here is that
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- He's just dripping with affection.
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- This is something so important to see about the apostle paul.
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- I don't know what you may associate with him,
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- But in the new testament, he is associated
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- With somewhere around 100 names,
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- And this was way, way before social media.
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- This is a man who had relationships.
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- He was loved by these people, and he loved them.
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- He called titus and timothy, "my dear children."
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- It was dripping with affection.
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- He's doing the same thing here: "onesimus,
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- "whose father i became
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- In my imprisonment."
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- I love how eugene peterson's translation says it
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- In the message: "while here in jail,
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- "i fathered a child, so to speak.
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- And here he is, hand-carrying this letter--onesimus!"
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- We can bear spiritual children well into our old age.
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- That brings us to number three, and it's this:
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- Involving other eyes on all sides
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- Is genius in volatile matters.
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- This is a word to take home with you.
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- Listen, this is an important word at christmastime
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- Or any other.
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- Did you notice that at the beginning of the letter,
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- Paul addresses it to philemon, "my beloved fellow worker,"
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- Apphia, who is most likely, most commentators will say
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- It's just almost obvious that this is a husband and a wife,
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- "apphia our sister," and "archippus are fellow soldier."
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- In all likelihood, that is their son.
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- And then he says, "enter the church in your house."
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- So it's a personal letter, but he says at the very end of it,
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- "give greetings to these,
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- And these are sending greetings to you."
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- So he's saying there's gonna be accountability here.
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- He says from the very beginning
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- That he is writing it alongside timothy.
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- In other words, timothy, who is well respected,
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- Very well respected.
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- "timothy is right with me.
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- "he knows i'm writing you, and i'm asking you this.
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- "these are my fellow workers.
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- "they are very aware.
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- "and i'm writing you, and i'm asking you,
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- Would you give them my greetings?"
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- Because you know what he's saying?
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- "i would really love them to know about this letter,
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- "because i'm holding you accountable to something
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- Of very profound importance."
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- I want you to notice with me that
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- When the new testament church was born,
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- It turned the social order completely upside down.
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- And it bears such importance for us to hear today,
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- And it bears such importance for us to hear particularly
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- At this time of year, that in christ,
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- It's family,
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- It's family.
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- There is no more caste system.
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- There is no one, no matter how much money and how little,
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- That is ever better than another.
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- We are family.
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- We are family.
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- We are brother and sister.
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- This is your blood kin.
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- And the most important part of it, "yet for love's sake,"
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- This is what's gonna annoy us, because this is where
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- The letter gets the traction that calls everybody
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- Past what they are able.
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- 'cause let me tell you something.
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- He's not just calling philemon to do what is right.
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- The law says, "do what is right."
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- Christ says, "do what is grace!"
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- You and i have been called much,
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- Much further in our relationships
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- And in our dealings than to simply do the right thing.
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- He's out in christ.
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- Our love is sacrificial, "yet for love's sake."
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- What is it?
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- When was the last time something because of christ pushed
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- You past where you knew you were even capable of going,
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- That you literally, that part of you
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- Was exercised strictly for love's sake
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- And for the sake of showing christ's likeness?
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- Here's the thing, 'cause we want to say today--originally
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- In my notes, i wrote down that the reason why i wanted to make
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- A huge distinction between just doing what is right
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- And doing what paul is calling upon philemon to do.
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- Because he is essentially saying to him,
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- "i'm gonna send him back to you.
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- "i'm gonna do what i feel like is the thing
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- "that i have got to do to respect you.
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- He has run away from you, probably taken his things."
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- He said, "i'm going to send him back to you,
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- "but when i send him back to you i am asking you to receive him,
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- Not as your slave, but as your very brother."
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- And he's calling him past-- i mean, he had any right.
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- The law would have given him any right to do anything he wanted
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- With onesimus when he knocked on that door, anything he wanted,
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- No obligation whatsoever to the law.
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- Yet paul was saying, "i'm asking you, you do the thing,
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- "not just that it's right, you do the thing that is christlike,
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- The thing that is christlike."
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- So, earlier in my notes, i was gonna put--because these days,
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- Everybody's got their own idea of what they think is right.
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- And then you know what the lord caught me on?
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- God reminded me.
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- You know how the word of god says
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- The holy spirit will remind you?
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- God reminded me of that passage at the very end
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- Of the book of judges that says, "and every man just did what
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- Was right in his own eyes," and it was mass pandemonium.
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- There was so much evil, so much licentiousness,
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- That it was, it was shocking,
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- Even in terms of what we would call astonishing today.
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- No, no, right is not enough.
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- Christ isn't just going, "do the right thing."
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- No, he's saying, "christlikeness, christlike."
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- What is christlike?
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- What would he do?
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- What would his love look like in this situation?
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- What would push us past?
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- What would just be the right thing into
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- "no, no, no, this is what would take jesus in me to do?"
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- What relationships do you have that you could tell me today
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- And that i could tell you to do--today require jesus
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- For you to conduct them?
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- I asked you today, do you have relationships that literally
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- Require jesus for you to conduct those relationships?
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- Can i see anybody's hand in the house?
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- Anybody's hand in the choir?
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- Oh yeah.
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- Oh that's where it starts showing.
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- And we wonder why, we wonder why
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- Because that's where
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- Christ starts showing up.
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- ♪ there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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- ♪ i will shout and sing ♪
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- ♪ let my praise be worthy of my king ♪
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- ♪ there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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- ♪ let the earth proclaim ♪♪
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- Hi, i'm beth moore, bible teacher, author,
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- And founder of living proof ministries.
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- Our passion is to see women come to know and love jesus christ
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- Through the study of scripture.
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- There's truly no greater joy.
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- Living proof ministries is a non-profit ministry,
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- And that means we rely on the help god brings us
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- Through donors like you.
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- Your gift will be used to fund our local houston area
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- Bible study, weekly teaching on our digital platforms
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- And app, new discipleship resources
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- And scholarships for women to attend
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- And his kingdom is advancing, and we would love for you
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- Thank you so much for supporting
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- Living proof ministries.
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- I'm gonna tell you this from a standpoint
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- Of having done this for 25 years.
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- I am more afraid of missing what god has for this group
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- Than i am of going out there to serve them.
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- One of my favorite things to hear from people
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- That have attended is, "he spoke straight into what i needed."
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- And i believe he can do that.
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- I think that if there are 800 people there or there were
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- 2,000 people there, he can do that with each one.
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- I love occasionally during our time of worship
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- To just glance around the room and i wonder to myself,
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- What's going on in that heart?
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- When we get away from our usual course of life
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- And we set ourselves to really listen and pay attention,
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- There is just no limit to what he would do.
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- And i believe god is so good that
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- If we will come attentively,
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- He will not pass us by.
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- I've got to tell you a couple of fun mandisa things
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- Because he is right, we do come together and pray
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- Because we're scared to death of what god's called us to do,
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- Just scared to death of it.
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- And so, boy, you better believe it.
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- We're taking it seriously, and we're back there
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- Just crying out, and we usually take the elements together.
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- And, and she's such a woman of prayer, and very--i don't
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- Know why, but very often, i'm totally in the throes
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- Of prayer but my eyes might be open.
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- And so, one of the things i loved about mandisa is that
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- The deeper she got into prayer-- this would be when she was--
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- (beth) because anybody in our praise team,
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- It's just the-- it's just the platform team
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- That's back there, and they're-- anybody, anybody can pray,
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- But when it would get to be her time,
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- The more earnest she would get in prayer,
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- The more the spirit would fall upon her,
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- Then she'd start lifting this foot here,
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- And it would just go up like this,
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- And it would just go up like this, go up like this.
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- And i would just watch it, because i'd always know
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- That it's the spirit rising right there.
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- That's the spirit rising right here.
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- And so, i always just love it.
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- I thought, we're not ready, we're not ready to go out there
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- Until mandisa's foot rises!
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- It's the foot rise.
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- And so, tonight, when we were all praying together,
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- I was going, "rise, foot rise!"
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- I don't know how you got away with not being with us
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- That weekend, because i remember you snuck away
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- And didn't tell us that you are auditioning for "american idol."
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- She did not tell us.
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- She went away and didn't tell us.
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- But we were together.
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- The rest of us were together, right?
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- And all of a sudden, we're together, and she calls,
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- And she's like, "guess where i am!"
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- And we're like, "i don't know where you are."
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- She goes, "i'm standing outside of the audition room.
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- I just got sent to hollywood on 'american idol.'"
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- And we freaked out.
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- Of course...we knew it was just a matter of time.
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- Yeah, we did.
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- We knew we were gonna lose her.
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- We knew we were gonna lose her.
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- We knew that we'd probably be working for her one day.
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- We did--no,
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- That is the absolute truth, and i'm gonna tell--again,
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- I wanna come back to this, because you know this voice.
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- And one of the things, 'cause one of the things i always
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- Remember is that she would hit a certain note
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- That would just bring the house down,
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- I mean, bring the house down every single time.
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- But as she spent more time with us, she got to where
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- She would talk a little bit before we did particular songs.
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- So, she would kinda take the microphone,
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- And, trav, that's when we knew.
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- That's when we knew that, that she wasn't just gonna sing.
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- She could bring it, i mean, bring it.
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- And we looked at one another.
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- We don't even remember who said it anymore.
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- We looked at one another and went,
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- "we will both work for her."
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- And i'll never forget when one time we were with her and
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- We went, "yes, we are both, it is like we are working for her."
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- Otherwise, we were just like watching people respond to her,
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- And it was just unbelievable.
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- I'll never forget.
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- I want you to know--first of all, i'm really blushing,
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- And i'm a black girl, and that actually
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- Is saying a lot when a black girl blushes.
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- I just found some old journals, and i was speaking at an event
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- Yesterday, and i was speaking about the process, the journey,
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- Of how i ended up where i was.
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- And i found some old journals from 2002, and i was weeping
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- As i read it, because so many notes that i took sitting under
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- Your teaching and so many stories that i wrote
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- Of what i was learning from you, and i am fully convinced
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- That the lord knew exactly what he was doing.
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- It's why he told me to come and work at lifeway
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- Even though i had a degree.
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- It's why he had travis call me up at lifeway.
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- It's why i got to sit under your teaching for 4 1/2 years.
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- It's because you all were such an integral part
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- Of where i am today and what i have learned.
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- And just the other day, somebody was talking to me about
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- How the word just kind of comes off my tongue, and i said,
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- "i want you to know, i get that from koinonia fellowship
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- With beth moore."
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- Because if there's anybody who loves the word--i've never met
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- Anybody who loves the word of god more than you.
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- And i remember you teaching on koinonia fellowship.
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- Remember tammy?
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- Tammy and i were sitting there taking notes, and you said that
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- Koinonia fellowship that when you spend time with somebody
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- And you can actually say to jesus,
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- "holy spirit, let me have what that is.
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- Give me that, that she has," and i prayed that.
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- And i want you to know i love the word of god,
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- And it's because i sat under the teaching of you,
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- And the holy spirit just give me--gave me everything.
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- And learned so much from you as a worship leader.
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- And honestly, i don't think i would be where i am today
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- If it weren't for you two.
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- (beth) no, we just had a blast.
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- Trav, anything?
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- Well, i'm just, i'm just struck by--
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- I kept thinking of mandisa's story, and, you know,
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- Just hearing it fresh tonight, it renews my faith even.
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- But i think about the verse that says, "man makes his plans,
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- But the lord directs his steps."
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- And we make our plans, women make their plans,
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- But the lord directs your steps.
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- And there is not something that would cause the lord
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- To favor mandisa over you or to favor beth over you.
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- They don't have a secret code that you don't.
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- They don't have a gift that's more important than yours.
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- You have full access to an abundant life right now,
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- And it doesn't, it may not look like exactly
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- What you think it looks--should look like.
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- You may walk through seasons of one heartache after another.
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- I think about the quote that you say a lot.
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- I've heard you say it, and i think about it:
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- "the goal of life is not the absence of pain."
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- God has not said, "i want you to have a safe, pain-free life."
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- The lord wants you to have a victorious life
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- And a full life.
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- And sometimes the only way that you can get there
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- Is through pain.
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- It's through loneliness.
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- And those seasons are ordained.
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- But as you think about--you know, i just think about--i was
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- Looking at mandisa and hearing her tell the story and i'm like,
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- She's a puzzle, this puzzle piece, this puzzle piece,
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- Puzzle piece, puzzle piece, puzzle piece, puzzle piece,
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- Puzzle piece, puzzle piece.
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- We are all pieces, and we come together as the body of christ,
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- And we can't do it without each other.
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- Have you ever put, you know, like one of those thousand-piece
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- Puzzles at christmas time, and you get to the end,
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- And there's a puzzle missing?
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- It drives you insane. i mean there's a piece missing.
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- It drives you insane.
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- It's just not complete without you.
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- And your piece matters as much as mandisa's, as much as beth's,
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- As much as mine.
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- And so, stepping into that obedience, even in--
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- Even in the painful times, even in the hard times,
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- And just trying to find a new place of surrender,
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- And surrender to what the lord would have for you
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- And watch him birth beautiful things out of your surrender,
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- Even in the dark places, and just to really live,
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- Just to really live, to really take him at his world, to show
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- Up at church on sunday and go, "okay, i may look foolish,
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- "but i'm gonna throw my hands up in the air,
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- "i'm gonna throw my head back, and i'm gonna give you
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- "everything i have in worship this morning.
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- I'm gonna give you everything i have in worship today,"
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- And just go for it in the spirit.
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- What do you have to lose?
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- Nothing, and you have everything to gain.
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- Go and take that which the lord has put before you
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- To walk in fullness and freedom.
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- And you may direct, you may make your plans, but the lord will
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- Direct your steps, and that surrender will take you there.
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- (beth) that is so good, that is so good,
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- Praise god, praise god.
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- ♪ now in the hope of who you are ♪
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- ♪ and in the peace you give my heart ♪
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- ♪ to think that love would come so far ♪
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- ♪ this hallelujah star ♪
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- ♪ oh hallelujah ♪
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- ♪ oh, there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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- ♪ i will shout and sing ♪
- 00:24:49.603 --> 00:24:52.406
- ♪ let my praise be worthy of my king ♪
- 00:24:52.406 --> 00:24:58.412
- ♪ there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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- ♪ let the earth proclaim ♪
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- ♪ singing glory to god on this christmas day ♪
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- ♪ oh, there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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- ♪ i will shout and sing ♪
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- ♪ and my praise be worthy of my king ♪
- 00:25:18.532 --> 00:25:24.638
- ♪ there is joy, joy, joy ♪
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- ♪ let the earth proclaim ♪
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- ♪ singing glory to god on this christmas day ♪
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- ♪ singing glory to god ♪
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- ♪ on this christmas day ♪
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- ♪ on this christmas day ♪
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- ♪ joy to the world ♪
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- ♪ on this christmas day ♪♪
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- Merry christmas!
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- Psalm 126:1 says, "the lord has done great things for us,
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- And we are filled with joy."
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- This is the verse that came to mind as i prepared
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- To share an end-of-the-year update with you.
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- It has been a tremendous privilege to serve you
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- Through this television program for the past 9 years.
- 00:26:36.644 --> 00:26:40.714
- There is truly no greater joy than to open god's word
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- With you each week and delight in the lord together.
- 00:26:43.617 --> 00:26:47.321
- At the end of 2024, we will be signing off of tbn.
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- I never in my wildest dreams
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- Thought god would open this door to have a television program.
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- It has been such a blast and such a grace gift.
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- In seeking the lord for the future
- 00:27:01.935 --> 00:27:03.604
- Of living proof ministries,
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- We have felt our time here was complete.
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- We plan to continue uploading new teaching content
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- To our youtube channel and living proof app.
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- We hope so much you'll join us there.
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- Thank you for the privilege to serve you.
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- I do not take this opportunity lightly.
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- On behalf of our entire team
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- At living proof ministries,
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- We pray god's richest blessings over you.
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