Bill & Gloria Gaither: The Gaither Story Continues | Praise

January 16, 2025 | 55:14

Bill and Gloria Gaither reminisce about their long and successful career in the music industry. They talk about the impact of their music, their humble beginnings, and the power of gospel music in bringing people together. They also share stories about their personal lives and how their faith has shaped their journey. As they prepare to take over more airtime on TBN, they express their gratitude and excitement for the opportunity to continue spreading their message and sharing their music.

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Praise | Bill & Gloria Gaither: The Gaither Story Continues | Praise | January 16, 2025
  • (beeping sound)
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  • - bill, one or two times in your life,
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  • You've been back in a little green room area-
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  • - in this very room. - you know,
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  • In rooms like this,
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  • And your career is kind of being almost a conductor,
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  • A symphony conductor almost,
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  • Of the gospel music industry really.
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  • And i thought it was apropos
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  • If we would kind of start back here.
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  • We're at the what we call the huckabee theater,
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  • But mike, remember, just got tapped
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  • To be the ambassador to israel,
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  • So we're gonna have to almost rename this.
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  • We're thinking maybe the gaither.
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  • (matt speaks faintly) - sounds good to me.
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  • - the gaither theater- - yeah, yeah.
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  • - or something. - sounds real good to me.
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  • (both laughing)
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  • - [matt] but you've walked this walk a few times.
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  • We walk by, we say hello to the audio guy
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  • Who's mixing the stuff.
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  • - [bill] good memories.
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  • - hey, guys. - yeah.
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  • Make make me sound good.
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  • Okay? - yeah.
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  • - absolute. - here we go.
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  • - [bill] maybe i should tell the camera guy,
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  • Make me look good, okay?
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  • - [matt] yeah, right.
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  • And then you kind of check and make sure
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  • Everything's going good up here
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  • On the screen. - yeah.
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  • - [matt] and we step on out.
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  • - [bill] yeah, i remember this place.
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  • - yeah.
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  • So we are here in nashville.
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  • And, bill, we're gonna sit down
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  • And we're gonna invite our wives even to be a part of this.
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  • You think that's a good idea?
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  • You think that's a good idea to...
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  • - i think... - is it okay
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  • To have the wives a part of everything?
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  • - we've actually been talking.
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  • - yes, yes. (matt laughing)
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  • Remain seated, girls.
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  • Okay? (matt laughing)
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - [announcer] tonight on "praise" from nashville,
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  • Grammy award-winning musical artist
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  • And international christian music ministry leaders,
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  • Bill and gloria gaither.
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  • And now your host, matt and laurie crouch.
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  • - don't get up. - we're way ahead of you.
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  • - hey, bill, they probably edited us out
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  • And the show probably started out here.
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  • They don't have any idea what we were back there doing.
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  • - we've already started. (laughs)
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  • - and we're just gonna kind of continue our conversation
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  • Because we were up in alexandria, indiana.
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  • And if you're in alexandria, indiana,
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  • Right- - you came there on purpose.
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  • - you came there on purpose.
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  • (bill, gloria, and laurie laughing)
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  • That's the bill and gloria gaither line.
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  • And now you're here in nashville with us
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  • And we got lots to talk about.
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  • Bill, you're about to,
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  • Gloria, you guys are about to take over a lot more airtime
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  • Here on tbn.
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  • We're gonna have more gaither.
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  • More gaither is coming.
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  • Right? - i love it.
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  • - you have been so kind to us, matt, for so many years,
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  • And the response that we get from people
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  • As we travel all over the country and the world, say,
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  • "i see you every saturday night.
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  • ♪ precious memories, how they linger" ♪
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  • - yeah.
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  • Well, a lot of people don't realize that that camera
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  • And that old film camera that took that old record player
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  • And put the needle down and we hear precious memories.
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  • - [narrator] life is made up of moments.
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  • Like turning the pages of a photograph album,
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  • Our memories preserve for us the relationships and events
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  • That tell the stories of each of our lives.
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  • Happy, sad, joyful, and painful.
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  • The memories of our days make up the fabric of who we are.
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  • ♪ precious
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  • ♪ praise
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  • - that was in laurie and my studio
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  • In costa mesa, california back in about 1994,
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  • We created that open for "precious memories."
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  • And laurie and i,
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  • We get to say thank you again
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  • That you paid our house payment
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  • - he did. - for about 15 years
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  • Of our lives. - thank you, bill,
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  • And jesus and gloria.
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  • (all laughing)
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  • - not necessarily
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  • In that order. - maybe jesus,
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  • Gloria and bill. (laughs)
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  • - but i was editing gener8xion entertainment
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  • And bill gaither and your organization
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  • Partnered on creating "precious memories"
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  • At the very beginning, it was on tbn,
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  • Now continually for, what is that?
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  • - 21, 22. - 30 years.
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  • - yeah. - well, talk about.
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  • - 30 years, yeah. - 30 years.
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  • - [laurie] beloved people.
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  • ♪ praise the lord
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  • ♪ let's just praise the lord
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  • - that is who you guys are.
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  • You are so beloved by millions of people around the world,
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  • And, you know, our parents, my parents,
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  • My daddy absolutely adored you
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  • And so did my mom,
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  • But my dad had had a stroke back years ago,
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  • And all he wanted to do is watch
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  • The gaithers. - yep.
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  • - [laurie] and barry.
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  • - [bill] barry jennings.
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  • - your son-in-law. - son-in-law.
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  • - [laurie] someone had reached out, and i said,
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  • "i need to buy just a-"
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  • - [matt] the set,
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  • You know, the whole. - the set, you know,
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  • Of the thing, and next thing i knew, this huge box,
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  • I think of everything you guys had ever done,
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  • Showed up at my dad's door, and i cried.
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  • And he watched every one of 'em a million times,
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  • You know, just over and over. - back in the vhs days.
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  • - yeah.
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  • - you know, one of the thrilling things about that
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  • Is i've run into a lot of people who have,
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  • You know, 45, 50-year-old folks who'd say,
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  • "my dad," he said, "i didn't know you from adam,
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  • But my dad, my dad, in fact, i wasn't even sure-"
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  • - but we're really old. (laughs)
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  • - yeah, yeah.
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  • Said, "i wasn't really sure i even liked that kind of music.
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  • But my dad or my mom would come and say,
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  • "you've gotta watch this video,"
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  • They got me hooked. (laughs)
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  • ♪ driving alone
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  • I kind of feel good about
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  • Bringing some generations together.
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  • There are too many things that separate us anyway.
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  • I mean, we live in a very polarized culture
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  • And music's part of it.
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  • - [laurie] yeah.
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  • - if you don't think music's divisive,
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  • Take a vacation with your kids and try to find-
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  • - not anymore because
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  • They're not listening to the same thing,
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  • They've got their earphones on.
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  • - yeah, yeah, so they have found a way to tune us out.
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  • But music can also be very uniting too.
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  • And so, it's fun to see
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  • Some second generations come along and say, "we watch it."
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  • - we are now, if you just tuned in,
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  • We're in nashville, tennessee.
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  • This is a place that you have done your christmas specials
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  • And you're doing all sorts of specials
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  • And starting february 1st.
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  • - [bill] yeah.
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  • - a new time for you,
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  • 8:00 pm and 11:00 pm eastern time.
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  • Brand new prime time schedule starting february 1st,
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  • "bill and gloria gaithers: the homecoming friends,"
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  • Lots of singing,
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  • And some of the content made even right here
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  • Where we're standing. - absolutely.
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  • I have pastors who say to me,
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  • "bill, we'd like to get you at my church."
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  • I said, "you don't want me at your church,
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  • You want me to come and bring all of my talented friends
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  • To come to your church."
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  • So on saturday night at 8:00 pm,
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  • It won't just be gloria and me.
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  • But it'd be us with a lot of talented folks.
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  • - gloria, you're one of the deepest wells,
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  • I think i know,
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  • You love to talk about theology
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  • And everything's about the lord,
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  • And it's just like drinking from a living water well
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  • Being around you.
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  • But the way you guys even started out in music
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  • 'cause you've written so many of the songs,
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  • But you've been so humble in your, like, what you just said,
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  • "you don't want me, you want everyone i bring," you know?
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  • - and matt and i go. - that's not humble,
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  • That's just true.
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  • (all laughing) - yeah.
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  • And it's like us, it's like,
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  • You don't want us, you want them, you know?
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  • But your humbleness in that you both said,
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  • "you know, we don't sing well,
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  • But we know people that do."
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  • And i think i'm always kind of thankful that i don't have a.
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  • - gift, a big gift that i can just rely on
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  • Because i have to rely so much on the lord for anything.
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  • - don't we all? - that i would say or do
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  • To do anything.
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  • - that feels like kind of the theme.
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  • You know, my dad used to say
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  • That the lord didn't give the crouch family
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  • Any particular gifts,
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  • Or we thought tbn was for the purpose
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  • Of displaying those gifts.
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  • - yeah. (laughs)
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  • - and so, you know, god has chosen the foolish
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  • To confound the wise.
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  • And it feels like, you know,
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  • The last time we sat together, bill,
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  • You said we needed that powerhouse voice.
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  • We needed that lead singer in our world
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  • To really kind of do and create the atmosphere
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  • That we were looking for to create.
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  • And so god made you incomplete so he could fill it
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  • And continue to use you.
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  • But here we sit all these years later
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  • And you're responsible for more music,
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  • Recording more in the next few days here in nashville.
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  • It just keeps on going, doesn't it?
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  • - it's beautiful, i've often told god,
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  • I have this going argument with him,
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  • Like, "why didn't you give me a great voice?
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  • And why didn't you give me this, somebody else's gift?"
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  • And he said, "if i had, you wouldn't need each other".
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  • - mm. - mm.
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  • - and he said that in lots of ways, over and over.
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  • You know, back when sandi patty was a kid out of college,
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  • I said, "why didn't you give me that voice?"
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  • And he said, "because then you wouldn't need sandy,
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  • And sandy wouldn't need you."
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  • - mm. - yeah.
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  • - so, i mean, my gift is my pen.
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  • And i, like i said, i have a going argument
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  • With god about that,
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  • But now at this stage of my life,
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  • I'm just grateful for that gift.
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  • - she says her gift is her pen.
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  • When i started dating her,
  • 00:10:23.902 --> 00:10:25.637
  • She'd write these beautiful, beautiful notes.
  • 00:10:25.637 --> 00:10:29.708
  • It was so intimidating.
  • 00:10:29.708 --> 00:10:31.910
  • - [laurie] yeah.
  • 00:10:31.910 --> 00:10:32.877
  • - and she and i-
  • 00:10:32.877 --> 00:10:33.978
  • - i meant them to be loving.
  • 00:10:33.978 --> 00:10:35.280
  • - no. (all laugh)
  • 00:10:35.280 --> 00:10:37.215
  • - i mean, like a birthday, she'd go on and on and on.
  • 00:10:37.215 --> 00:10:40.051
  • It was so intimidating that when it was her birthday,
  • 00:10:40.051 --> 00:10:44.055
  • I would go to the drugstore and look and look,
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  • (all laugh)
  • 00:10:47.158 --> 00:10:48.460
  • And finally find one that was pretty good.
  • 00:10:48.460 --> 00:10:52.130
  • But at the bottom i'd say, "i love you too, babe."
  • 00:10:52.130 --> 00:10:55.800
  • (all laugh)
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  • I was not gonna compete. - no, no competition.
  • 00:10:57.402 --> 00:11:00.305
  • - i was not gonna compete with that.
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  • Hi, i'm bill gaither
  • 00:11:03.208 --> 00:11:04.709
  • And i'm thrilled to invite you
  • 00:11:04.709 --> 00:11:06.444
  • To the premier "gaither gospel hour",
  • 00:11:06.444 --> 00:11:09.114
  • Starting february the first,
  • 00:11:09.114 --> 00:11:11.116
  • Every saturday night at 8:00 pm,
  • 00:11:11.116 --> 00:11:13.418
  • And again at 11:00 pm eastern standard time,
  • 00:11:13.418 --> 00:11:17.055
  • We'll gather to celebrate faith, family,
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  • In the timeless power of gospel music.
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  • Mark your calendars and join us,
  • 00:11:23.361 --> 00:11:25.430
  • Only on tbn and tbn plus.
  • 00:11:25.430 --> 00:11:28.700
  • (gentle music)
  • 00:11:28.700 --> 00:11:33.304
  • (calm music)
  • 00:11:33.638 --> 00:11:35.673
  • - we want the real talkative version
  • 00:11:35.673 --> 00:11:37.976
  • Of who you guys are today, okay.
  • 00:11:37.976 --> 00:11:40.812
  • So if you guys could just go on and on and on for us,
  • 00:11:40.812 --> 00:11:44.616
  • This is what we're kind of looking for today.
  • 00:11:44.616 --> 00:11:46.050
  • - we're looking for the bill and gloria show.
  • 00:11:46.050 --> 00:11:47.085
  • That's scary. (all laugh)
  • 00:11:47.085 --> 00:11:48.586
  • - that's what we want.
  • 00:11:48.586 --> 00:11:51.022
  • - 62 years of marriage.
  • 00:11:51.523 --> 00:11:54.125
  • And it's been a very, very interesting marriage.
  • 00:11:54.125 --> 00:11:56.828
  • We were attracted, i think, to each other,
  • 00:11:56.828 --> 00:11:59.297
  • When we were both teaching school.
  • 00:11:59.297 --> 00:12:01.432
  • We met at the, at the alexandria high school,
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  • Alexandria-monroe high school.
  • 00:12:04.969 --> 00:12:07.238
  • She was teaching french and i was teaching english.
  • 00:12:07.238 --> 00:12:11.309
  • She had three majors, french, english, and sociology.
  • 00:12:11.309 --> 00:12:15.780
  • She graduated cum laude.
  • 00:12:16.281 --> 00:12:18.683
  • I graduated thank the lordy and got out of the place.
  • 00:12:19.784 --> 00:12:22.320
  • (all laugh)
  • 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:25.423
  • But the kids kept saying, "you've gotta meet miss sickal.
  • 00:12:25.423 --> 00:12:28.960
  • You gotta meet this young lady."
  • 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:33.097
  • So we did, started dating
  • 00:12:33.097 --> 00:12:36.034
  • And at lunch, talked a lot about politics.
  • 00:12:36.034 --> 00:12:40.238
  • - [matt] hmm.
  • 00:12:40.238 --> 00:12:41.272
  • - [gloria] literature.
  • 00:12:41.272 --> 00:12:42.473
  • - literature, theology, philosophy.
  • 00:12:42.473 --> 00:12:45.877
  • Not much about music.
  • 00:12:46.377 --> 00:12:48.079
  • We didn't say much about music.
  • 00:12:48.079 --> 00:12:51.349
  • In fact, i didn't even tell her that i wrote music
  • 00:12:51.349 --> 00:12:56.988
  • Until i was sure i had her.
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  • (all laugh)
  • 00:12:59.991 --> 00:13:02.227
  • - actually our meeting, this is the corniest, laurie.
  • 00:13:02.227 --> 00:13:07.031
  • He was coming from the office down the hall
  • 00:13:07.932 --> 00:13:09.968
  • And i was going to the office down the hall,
  • 00:13:09.968 --> 00:13:13.238
  • And he stopped
  • 00:13:13.238 --> 00:13:14.639
  • And pretended to drop his pencil in front of me.
  • 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:17.842
  • - [matt] got it.
  • 00:13:17.842 --> 00:13:19.410
  • - and he bent over to pick- - did you pick it up? (laughs)
  • 00:13:19.410 --> 00:13:21.779
  • - he bent over to pick it up
  • 00:13:21.779 --> 00:13:23.448
  • And said, "hi, what's your name?"
  • 00:13:23.448 --> 00:13:25.984
  • I said, "gloria sickal, who are you?"
  • 00:13:25.984 --> 00:13:27.619
  • And he said, "bill gaither, and i said, "bill".
  • 00:13:27.619 --> 00:13:31.656
  • - i have a friend that wants to meet your brother.
  • 00:13:32.690 --> 00:13:35.460
  • - oh my goodness. - and he said,
  • 00:13:35.460 --> 00:13:36.928
  • "that's the story of my life.
  • 00:13:36.928 --> 00:13:38.630
  • Everybody wants to meet my brother."
  • 00:13:38.630 --> 00:13:40.098
  • - everybody wants to meet my brother.
  • 00:13:40.098 --> 00:13:41.866
  • I had to be a fast talker.
  • 00:13:41.866 --> 00:13:43.635
  • - that's how we met.
  • 00:13:43.635 --> 00:13:44.936
  • - that's fun. - i love it.
  • 00:13:44.936 --> 00:13:46.070
  • - i met a wordsmith when i met her,
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  • And i look back and i think i was just attracted by the fact
  • 00:13:49.340 --> 00:13:53.945
  • That she was so articulate.
  • 00:13:53.945 --> 00:13:55.713
  • As kevin and mark lowery would probably say,
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  • I'm probably short in that area myself,
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  • And it served us well.
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  • For the most part, i have come up with a lot of the ideas
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  • And i can get the major, like "it is finished,"
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  • Which, you know, it was just-
  • 00:14:09.928 --> 00:14:11.462
  • - he's really good at hooks,
  • 00:14:11.462 --> 00:14:14.966
  • What we call hooks writing songs.
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  • We do a lot of talking about
  • 00:14:17.535 --> 00:14:19.437
  • What we believe and what we think.
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  • In fact, now that we're at this age,
  • 00:14:20.872 --> 00:14:22.674
  • We sit at the breakfast table till about 10
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  • And talk about politics, the news and everything.
  • 00:14:26.377 --> 00:14:29.547
  • Out of all those conversations
  • 00:14:29.547 --> 00:14:31.282
  • And what we're observing in the world,
  • 00:14:31.282 --> 00:14:33.384
  • He'll come up with the hook,
  • 00:14:33.384 --> 00:14:35.853
  • A phrase that you can hang that idea on,
  • 00:14:36.721 --> 00:14:40.325
  • And so he's really great at that,
  • 00:14:40.325 --> 00:14:43.795
  • And once we have that, that's the beginning.
  • 00:14:43.795 --> 00:14:46.464
  • - you go to work on it at that point.
  • 00:14:46.464 --> 00:14:48.132
  • - that's the beginning of the song.
  • 00:14:48.132 --> 00:14:49.867
  • - i start 'em, she finishes 'em,
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  • As far as lyric ideas are concerned.
  • 00:14:52.303 --> 00:14:55.340
  • We have a song like, "because he lives,"
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  • Or "i am loved," for instance,
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  • We just felt like people needed to know
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  • That they were loved and they need to say that,
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  • They need to get it through their lips,
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  • "i am loved, i'm loved."
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  • ♪ i am loved
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  • ♪ you are loved
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  • - when we came out with it 30, 40 years ago,
  • 00:15:15.426 --> 00:15:18.096
  • It was tough for men to say that.
  • 00:15:18.096 --> 00:15:20.565
  • - [matt] wow.
  • 00:15:20.565 --> 00:15:21.833
  • - it's not tough these days.
  • 00:15:21.833 --> 00:15:23.901
  • But ideas-
  • 00:15:23.901 --> 00:15:25.303
  • - the discussion for that was we sang,
  • 00:15:25.303 --> 00:15:28.439
  • "jesus loves me, this i know more,"
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  • Than any other thing with little kids
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  • From the time they're in sunday school,
  • 00:15:32.377 --> 00:15:35.046
  • But we said they don't believe it.
  • 00:15:35.046 --> 00:15:36.714
  • - [matt] oh, wow.
  • 00:15:36.714 --> 00:15:37.982
  • - you know, we said people don't believe it.
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  • If they did believe it, we would have a different world.
  • 00:15:39.517 --> 00:15:42.286
  • - right. - so that's how that,
  • 00:15:42.286 --> 00:15:45.223
  • It was turning that on its head.
  • 00:15:45.223 --> 00:15:48.526
  • - and in all fairness,
  • 00:15:48.526 --> 00:15:49.761
  • It's really sad to see christian folks
  • 00:15:49.761 --> 00:15:52.263
  • Who have followed the lord many, many years
  • 00:15:52.263 --> 00:15:54.532
  • With their fists double up.
  • 00:15:54.532 --> 00:15:57.035
  • Why are you so uptight?
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  • Don't you know that the one who knows you best
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  • Loves you most?
  • 00:16:02.673 --> 00:16:04.042
  • Unclinch your fist and let's try to approach it
  • 00:16:04.042 --> 00:16:07.345
  • From another way.
  • 00:16:07.345 --> 00:16:08.246
  • - there's a word right now
  • 00:16:08.246 --> 00:16:09.514
  • That it's being used a lot in government
  • 00:16:09.514 --> 00:16:12.216
  • And that is weaponizing, you know,
  • 00:16:12.216 --> 00:16:14.519
  • Different departments or whatever,
  • 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:16.387
  • But sometimes we weaponize the gospel.
  • 00:16:16.387 --> 00:16:18.790
  • - wow. - what we say may be true,
  • 00:16:18.790 --> 00:16:20.858
  • But how we're saying it is destructive.
  • 00:16:20.858 --> 00:16:23.394
  • - wow. - and for people to believe
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  • That god is loving, those of us who love him
  • 00:16:25.830 --> 00:16:30.268
  • Should not weaponize the gospel.
  • 00:16:30.268 --> 00:16:34.272
  • - gloria said, you know, the oh hymn, we sang,
  • 00:16:34.272 --> 00:16:36.874
  • And this is great because one of the first programs
  • 00:16:36.874 --> 00:16:40.678
  • We're gonna play will be singing the old hymn,
  • 00:16:40.678 --> 00:16:44.882
  • "i surrender all,
  • 00:16:44.882 --> 00:16:46.951
  • I surrender all, all to jesus."
  • 00:16:46.951 --> 00:16:49.954
  • ♪ all to thee my precious savior ♪
  • 00:16:50.755 --> 00:16:54.258
  • ♪ i surrender all
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  • - we're gonna sing that. - just ask me.
  • 00:16:56.561 --> 00:16:57.862
  • - we're gonna do the a cappella
  • 00:16:57.862 --> 00:16:59.330
  • With marsh hall doing the solo.
  • 00:16:59.330 --> 00:17:01.899
  • - aw. - and gloria says...
  • 00:17:01.899 --> 00:17:04.335
  • - this is the only war we fight,
  • 00:17:04.335 --> 00:17:06.704
  • And this is the only war we win by surrender.
  • 00:17:07.572 --> 00:17:10.641
  • - [matt] oh, wow.
  • 00:17:10.641 --> 00:17:12.243
  • - and we think of that song, that old song
  • 00:17:12.243 --> 00:17:14.679
  • As an altar call song if you grew up in church.
  • 00:17:14.679 --> 00:17:17.281
  • - oh, yeah. - which it's not.
  • 00:17:17.281 --> 00:17:19.884
  • It is a daily song.
  • 00:17:19.884 --> 00:17:21.586
  • - yes. - my goodness.
  • 00:17:21.586 --> 00:17:22.887
  • - and surrender is not just a one-time shot
  • 00:17:22.887 --> 00:17:25.456
  • To go down the altar and give your heart to god.
  • 00:17:25.456 --> 00:17:28.459
  • Surrender is a constant daily thing.
  • 00:17:28.459 --> 00:17:31.095
  • - i think so much of that is trust.
  • 00:17:31.095 --> 00:17:33.898
  • You put your trust.
  • 00:17:33.898 --> 00:17:35.199
  • I want somebody, if i'm going to give and love
  • 00:17:35.199 --> 00:17:38.503
  • And sacrifice for somebody, i want to trust them
  • 00:17:38.503 --> 00:17:43.774
  • To reciprocate that and some people don't do that.
  • 00:17:44.809 --> 00:17:49.013
  • But then the lord says, "i want you to trust me,
  • 00:17:49.013 --> 00:17:52.183
  • So you do the right thing, and trust me."
  • 00:17:52.183 --> 00:17:54.118
  • - that's it.
  • 00:17:54.118 --> 00:17:55.620
  • - dr. br lakin was an old evangelist, baptist evangelist.
  • 00:17:55.620 --> 00:18:00.825
  • Jerry falwell loved him and he had him there many times.
  • 00:18:01.959 --> 00:18:04.896
  • And he was just preaching a traditional sermon
  • 00:18:05.863 --> 00:18:10.401
  • On the last words of jesus on the cross, "it is finished,"
  • 00:18:10.401 --> 00:18:14.005
  • And he ended up very poetically,
  • 00:18:14.005 --> 00:18:16.641
  • As only a poet and a southern orator can do.
  • 00:18:16.641 --> 00:18:20.711
  • - let me tell how he ended it.
  • 00:18:21.345 --> 00:18:22.880
  • - she'll do it better, okay.
  • 00:18:23.481 --> 00:18:25.716
  • - he ended by saying, and he...
  • 00:18:26.350 --> 00:18:31.122
  • - jesus on the cross.
  • 00:18:31.622 --> 00:18:32.857
  • And he said, "and a drop of blood fell
  • 00:18:32.857 --> 00:18:34.559
  • From the wound in his head."
  • 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:38.496
  • - mingled with the sweat on his brow.
  • 00:18:38.496 --> 00:18:39.864
  • - "and fell to the bottom of the cross.
  • 00:18:39.864 --> 00:18:43.668
  • And it fell on a piece of sand.
  • 00:18:43.668 --> 00:18:45.536
  • And the sand said to the little blade of grass
  • 00:18:45.536 --> 00:18:49.307
  • That was coming in, 'it is finished.'
  • 00:18:49.307 --> 00:18:52.043
  • And the little blade of grass
  • 00:18:52.677 --> 00:18:55.313
  • Said 'it is finished' to the air.
  • 00:18:55.313 --> 00:18:57.582
  • And the little bird dropped,
  • 00:18:57.582 --> 00:18:59.350
  • Swooped down and picked the blade of grass
  • 00:18:59.350 --> 00:19:01.752
  • And took it up to the top of the tallest pine tree.
  • 00:19:01.752 --> 00:19:04.889
  • And the blade of grass said
  • 00:19:04.889 --> 00:19:06.157
  • To the pine tree, 'it is finished'."
  • 00:19:06.157 --> 00:19:08.559
  • And then he just did this whole thing.
  • 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.962
  • "and became an echo in the cosmos
  • 00:19:10.962 --> 00:19:14.332
  • That it is finished.
  • 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:15.900
  • And all of creation mourned.
  • 00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:20.338
  • And that even the sky darkened
  • 00:19:20.972 --> 00:19:23.708
  • And the storm came that split the earth in two
  • 00:19:23.708 --> 00:19:27.945
  • With an earthquake, saying 'it is finished'."
  • 00:19:27.945 --> 00:19:30.815
  • So anyway, he's like this.
  • 00:19:30.815 --> 00:19:32.049
  • And bill is punching me like this.
  • 00:19:32.049 --> 00:19:34.285
  • He said, "we gotta write this."
  • 00:19:34.285 --> 00:19:36.120
  • - [laurie] "there's a song."
  • 00:19:36.120 --> 00:19:37.688
  • - it is finished. - we were so moved
  • 00:19:37.688 --> 00:19:39.523
  • By the poetry of "it is finished."
  • 00:19:39.523 --> 00:19:42.460
  • - we kept...
  • 00:19:42.460 --> 00:19:43.894
  • So we went home and then he said,
  • 00:19:43.894 --> 00:19:46.731
  • "you thought anymore about that idea?
  • 00:19:46.731 --> 00:19:49.066
  • We could take that idea."
  • 00:19:49.066 --> 00:19:50.601
  • I said, "yeah, i thinking a lot about it.
  • 00:19:50.601 --> 00:19:52.403
  • I just,
  • 00:19:52.403 --> 00:19:54.272
  • It's bigger than we think.
  • 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:56.707
  • I can't write it right now."
  • 00:19:56.707 --> 00:19:59.310
  • - so she took the historical picture
  • 00:19:59.310 --> 00:20:04.282
  • And the historical story of the crucifixion.
  • 00:20:04.282 --> 00:20:08.219
  • And the first three verses
  • 00:20:08.786 --> 00:20:11.122
  • Are about the crucifixion and what jesus said.
  • 00:20:11.122 --> 00:20:14.058
  • And those are his words.
  • 00:20:14.058 --> 00:20:15.860
  • "it is finished."
  • 00:20:15.860 --> 00:20:17.461
  • But i think her, let me brag on her.
  • 00:20:18.229 --> 00:20:20.631
  • I think her genius
  • 00:20:20.631 --> 00:20:22.900
  • Is to say,
  • 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:24.702
  • "okay, what about monday and what about tuesday?
  • 00:20:25.670 --> 00:20:28.239
  • And what about wednesday at work?"
  • 00:20:28.239 --> 00:20:30.741
  • And the last two verses, i think,
  • 00:20:31.409 --> 00:20:33.811
  • I'll brag on her, are very special.
  • 00:20:33.811 --> 00:20:36.714
  • Yet, in my heart, the battle was still raging.
  • 00:20:37.615 --> 00:20:41.852
  • Not all prisoners of war have come home.
  • 00:20:41.852 --> 00:20:45.256
  • These were battlefields of my own making.
  • 00:20:45.256 --> 00:20:47.892
  • I didn't know that the war had been won.
  • 00:20:47.892 --> 00:20:50.828
  • Then i heard that the king of the ages
  • 00:20:50.828 --> 00:20:54.098
  • Had fought all the battles for me,
  • 00:20:54.098 --> 00:20:56.534
  • And victory was mine for the claiming.
  • 00:20:56.534 --> 00:20:59.970
  • And now praise his name, i am free.
  • 00:20:59.970 --> 00:21:03.507
  • It is finished. - it is finished.
  • 00:21:03.507 --> 00:21:05.710
  • - the battle is over. - the battle is over.
  • 00:21:06.644 --> 00:21:07.778
  • - i'm tired of fighting the war.
  • 00:21:07.778 --> 00:21:10.948
  • And i think if i were to say anything to modern christians,
  • 00:21:10.948 --> 00:21:15.986
  • I would say put your gun down,
  • 00:21:16.620 --> 00:21:18.956
  • Unclench your fist. - yeah.
  • 00:21:19.623 --> 00:21:21.826
  • - the battle is over. - we're fighting wars
  • 00:21:21.826 --> 00:21:23.561
  • That have already been won.
  • 00:21:23.561 --> 00:21:24.929
  • Satan has no power over us.
  • 00:21:24.929 --> 00:21:27.064
  • - amen.
  • 00:21:27.064 --> 00:21:27.898
  • - except to convince us
  • 00:21:27.898 --> 00:21:29.900
  • That the war has never been won.
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  • - right.
  • 00:21:31.102 --> 00:21:32.103
  • - that's his stroke. - yeah.
  • 00:21:32.103 --> 00:21:33.371
  • - yeah, that's beautiful theology. beautiful.
  • 00:21:33.371 --> 00:21:35.573
  • - and once we can throw that back in his face
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  • And say, "no, it is finished."
  • 00:21:38.943 --> 00:21:40.978
  • But it has to be finished
  • 00:21:40.978 --> 00:21:42.513
  • For me. - yeah.
  • 00:21:42.513 --> 00:21:44.181
  • - one of the biggest comments we get from people
  • 00:21:44.181 --> 00:21:46.817
  • Who have followed us for 60 years
  • 00:21:46.817 --> 00:21:49.987
  • Is this.
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  • "thank you for your music."
  • 00:21:51.222 --> 00:21:53.224
  • And here's the word.
  • 00:21:53.224 --> 00:21:54.625
  • "it got us through."
  • 00:21:54.625 --> 00:21:57.461
  • - yeah.
  • 00:21:57.461 --> 00:21:58.796
  • - yeah. - [bill] we didn't write
  • 00:21:58.796 --> 00:21:59.897
  • This one.
  • 00:21:59.897 --> 00:22:01.031
  • Andre wrote it.
  • 00:22:01.031 --> 00:22:02.566
  • I think one of the best songs of the last century.
  • 00:22:02.566 --> 00:22:04.869
  • - [gloria] absolutely. - [bill] through it all.
  • 00:22:04.869 --> 00:22:06.237
  • - [gloria] and through it all.
  • 00:22:06.237 --> 00:22:07.238
  • - [bill] through it all,
  • 00:22:07.238 --> 00:22:08.305
  • I've learned to trust in jesus.
  • 00:22:08.305 --> 00:22:10.408
  • I've learned to trust in god.
  • 00:22:10.408 --> 00:22:12.076
  • Through it all, i've learned to depend.
  • 00:22:12.076 --> 00:22:14.812
  • And laurie, you're right.
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  • The word trust then comes in.
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  • (light music)
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  • ♪ through it all
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  • ♪ i've learned
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  • ♪ to depend upon his word
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  • - mark lowry's right.
  • 00:22:30.594 --> 00:22:31.896
  • To whom else can we go? - yeah.
  • 00:22:31.896 --> 00:22:34.165
  • - there's no place else to go.
  • 00:22:34.165 --> 00:22:35.733
  • - yeah. - mm.
  • 00:22:35.733 --> 00:22:37.802
  • - that's the good news of the gospel.
  • 00:22:38.602 --> 00:22:40.571
  • That's the good news of the saturday night program.
  • 00:22:40.571 --> 00:22:44.275
  • - look at you. - that's right.
  • 00:22:44.909 --> 00:22:46.644
  • Bring it around. - and p.t. barnum
  • 00:22:46.644 --> 00:22:48.212
  • Comes back out again.
  • 00:22:48.212 --> 00:22:49.547
  • All of a sudden, there he is. - there he is.
  • 00:22:49.547 --> 00:22:51.549
  • - i love it.
  • 00:22:51.549 --> 00:22:52.783
  • I love it when i go into a truck stop,
  • 00:22:53.617 --> 00:22:55.453
  • An old trucker will look.
  • 00:22:55.453 --> 00:22:56.654
  • He won't even look at me.
  • 00:22:56.654 --> 00:22:57.955
  • He'll go, "you're bill gaither?" i say, "yeah."
  • 00:22:57.955 --> 00:23:00.591
  • "i watch you on saturday night."
  • 00:23:00.591 --> 00:23:02.593
  • I say, "well, thanks."
  • 00:23:03.093 --> 00:23:04.495
  • "don't get me wrong. i'm not religious or anything."
  • 00:23:04.495 --> 00:23:06.931
  • I love that!
  • 00:23:06.931 --> 00:23:09.800
  • It was just a chance to talk to people-
  • 00:23:08.566 --> 00:23:13.471
  • - yeah. - that,
  • 00:23:13.471 --> 00:23:14.839
  • Through the regular channels, you can't talk.
  • 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:16.607
  • And i've had that more than once.
  • 00:23:16.607 --> 00:23:18.943
  • - i love that. - and people say,
  • 00:23:18.943 --> 00:23:20.744
  • "why do you keep doing this?"
  • 00:23:20.744 --> 00:23:22.813
  • That will get me up on morning.
  • 00:23:22.813 --> 00:23:24.448
  • - yeah. - mm.
  • 00:23:24.448 --> 00:23:25.449
  • - because- - yeah.
  • 00:23:25.449 --> 00:23:26.984
  • - for whatever reason, they've been turned off.
  • 00:23:26.984 --> 00:23:28.919
  • You know, i mean, they've seen it.
  • 00:23:28.919 --> 00:23:29.920
  • You know, they've
  • 00:23:30.354 --> 00:23:31.722
  • - seen it all,
  • 00:23:32.089 --> 00:23:32.656
  • But they see a bunch of people having a good time
  • 00:23:33.657 --> 00:23:36.260
  • And talking about the joy of the lord.
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  • We're starting out with a song
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  • These days in the vocal band concert that my son wrote
  • 00:23:41.332 --> 00:23:44.935
  • With some friends here in nashville.
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  • I'm going to love, like i'm leaving
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  • Give more than i'm receiving,
  • 00:23:51.308 --> 00:23:53.577
  • Laugh until it takes my breath away.
  • 00:23:53.577 --> 00:23:56.347
  • I'm gonna say what needs saying
  • 00:23:56.347 --> 00:23:58.516
  • Pray what needs praying.
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  • I'm going to love,
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  • Like i'm leaving here today.
  • 00:24:02.052 --> 00:24:04.188
  • - my goodness. - oh.
  • 00:24:04.188 --> 00:24:05.422
  • - that's beautiful. - i love it.
  • 00:24:05.422 --> 00:24:06.624
  • - we have no guarantee of tomorrow.
  • 00:24:06.624 --> 00:24:08.192
  • But brother, i'm gonna love like i'm leaving here today.
  • 00:24:08.192 --> 00:24:11.228
  • And to see that old trucker say, "i'm not religious."
  • 00:24:11.228 --> 00:24:15.499
  • - i'm not religious. - i'm not religious.
  • 00:24:15.499 --> 00:24:16.834
  • - and he usually says, "neither was jesus."
  • 00:24:16.834 --> 00:24:18.569
  • - there it is. - it got him crucified.
  • 00:24:18.569 --> 00:24:20.237
  • - [host] it got him crucified.
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  • - hi, i'm bill gaither
  • 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.340
  • And i'm thrilled to invite you
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  • To the premier gaither gospel hour,
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  • Starting february the first, every saturday night at 8:00 pm
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  • And again at 11:00 pm eastern standard time.
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  • We'll gather to celebrate faith, family,
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  • And the timeless power of gospel music.
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  • (country music)
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  • - [host] since you're sitting here,
  • 00:24:53.771 --> 00:24:56.073
  • I want you to verify this story.
  • 00:24:56.073 --> 00:24:57.808
  • 'cause i tell people this sometimes
  • 00:24:57.808 --> 00:24:59.376
  • And they don't believe me.
  • 00:24:59.376 --> 00:25:00.844
  • So you're sitting here now you can verify it, right?
  • 00:25:00.844 --> 00:25:03.180
  • So one time in about late 1993,
  • 00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:08.852
  • You, milan lafever and i
  • 00:25:09.353 --> 00:25:11.989
  • Sat in a room in atlanta, georgia.
  • 00:25:11.989 --> 00:25:15.392
  • And you had come into atlanta.
  • 00:25:16.026 --> 00:25:19.129
  • I had come into atlanta.
  • 00:25:19.129 --> 00:25:20.497
  • We were meeting at milan's office.
  • 00:25:20.497 --> 00:25:22.499
  • Did that happen?
  • 00:25:22.499 --> 00:25:23.567
  • - yep.
  • 00:25:23.567 --> 00:25:24.768
  • - okay, and we talked about
  • 00:25:24.768 --> 00:25:26.837
  • The maybe three or four homecoming videos
  • 00:25:26.837 --> 00:25:31.976
  • That existed at that time, okay?
  • 00:25:32.610 --> 00:25:34.778
  • That were, let's say, shot with a camera and focus
  • 00:25:34.778 --> 00:25:39.316
  • And you had real mics
  • 00:25:39.817 --> 00:25:41.385
  • And you really mixed it later and all that kind of stuff.
  • 00:25:41.385 --> 00:25:43.287
  • You had done some real early ones
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  • With a little handheld camera
  • 00:25:45.723 --> 00:25:47.191
  • And all that kind of stuff that got so much attention
  • 00:25:47.191 --> 00:25:49.460
  • That really gave birth to
  • 00:25:49.460 --> 00:25:50.961
  • The homecoming family event. - absolutely, absolutely.
  • 00:25:50.961 --> 00:25:54.765
  • But i think there was four or five,
  • 00:25:54.765 --> 00:25:59.637
  • And i can tell you it was '94
  • 00:25:59.637 --> 00:26:01.305
  • Because when i talked- - you said '93.
  • 00:26:01.305 --> 00:26:04.408
  • '93 or '94, it was probably '93
  • 00:26:04.408 --> 00:26:07.111
  • Because when i talked to my mom and dad,
  • 00:26:07.111 --> 00:26:10.314
  • Paul and jan about what the homecoming videos were,
  • 00:26:10.314 --> 00:26:15.586
  • I had to actually show one to them
  • 00:26:16.353 --> 00:26:18.389
  • Because it was that early in the game.
  • 00:26:18.389 --> 00:26:20.491
  • - it was really new.
  • 00:26:20.491 --> 00:26:21.458
  • - that they hadn't seen one.
  • 00:26:21.458 --> 00:26:22.693
  • I had my mom and dad's attention
  • 00:26:22.693 --> 00:26:24.328
  • Because i owned their grandchildren, okay?
  • 00:26:24.328 --> 00:26:27.731
  • And there's my mom and dad
  • 00:26:28.298 --> 00:26:30.200
  • Playing on the floor with my kids
  • 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.037
  • And i slide over two or three of your homecoming videos.
  • 00:26:33.037 --> 00:26:38.308
  • And i said, "bill and gloria would like to edit these
  • 00:26:39.376 --> 00:26:42.946
  • Into half hour episodes
  • 00:26:42.946 --> 00:26:44.314
  • And put 'em on tbn."
  • 00:26:44.314 --> 00:26:45.883
  • And without even hard, you know, i think my dad glanced over
  • 00:26:45.883 --> 00:26:48.886
  • And he goes, "oh, i love bill and gloria, sure."
  • 00:26:48.886 --> 00:26:51.555
  • Then i come and meet with you.
  • 00:26:51.555 --> 00:26:53.257
  • That was the birth of "precious memories,"
  • 00:26:53.257 --> 00:26:56.160
  • The tv show now on the air for 30 years.
  • 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.996
  • - [ill] in fact, we did that first video
  • 00:26:58.996 --> 00:27:01.699
  • Mainly because the trio had had a great day
  • 00:27:01.699 --> 00:27:04.535
  • With all artists.
  • 00:27:04.535 --> 00:27:06.003
  • I don't care who they are, secular christian artist.
  • 00:27:06.003 --> 00:27:08.739
  • They have this period where they start,
  • 00:27:09.606 --> 00:27:12.209
  • They'll level off here.
  • 00:27:12.209 --> 00:27:14.044
  • And then they had like trio started when back in?
  • 00:27:14.044 --> 00:27:17.481
  • - 60?
  • 00:27:17.481 --> 00:27:18.515
  • - right after we
  • 00:27:18.515 --> 00:27:19.683
  • Were first married. - two, three.
  • 00:27:19.683 --> 00:27:20.584
  • And we had 20 great years.
  • 00:27:20.584 --> 00:27:21.719
  • - [gloria] and you'd sung before that
  • 00:27:21.719 --> 00:27:22.753
  • With your brother and sister.
  • 00:27:22.753 --> 00:27:24.121
  • - [bill] yeah, but we'd had 20 great years,
  • 00:27:24.121 --> 00:27:27.691
  • But it was leveling off and going down.
  • 00:27:27.691 --> 00:27:30.360
  • And so we said,
  • 00:27:30.360 --> 00:27:32.196
  • And then we started the vocal band out of the trio concerts.
  • 00:27:32.196 --> 00:27:36.867
  • But we weren't contemporary.
  • 00:27:36.867 --> 00:27:39.737
  • We weren't traditional.
  • 00:27:39.737 --> 00:27:41.972
  • We couldn't get any identification.
  • 00:27:42.773 --> 00:27:44.575
  • So we said probably ought to hang it up.
  • 00:27:44.575 --> 00:27:49.546
  • We've had a great run.
  • 00:27:49.546 --> 00:27:51.348
  • - [host] my goodness.
  • 00:27:51.348 --> 00:27:52.182
  • - that was in '89, '90.
  • 00:27:52.182 --> 00:27:55.886
  • But before we hang it up,
  • 00:27:55.886 --> 00:27:57.955
  • Let's call in some of our old friends.
  • 00:27:58.789 --> 00:28:01.058
  • Michael had sung with the goodmans and he loved them.
  • 00:28:01.058 --> 00:28:05.329
  • Mark had sung with the rambos.
  • 00:28:05.329 --> 00:28:07.865
  • Well he grew up loving the rams.
  • 00:28:07.865 --> 00:28:09.533
  • He did sing with them.
  • 00:28:09.533 --> 00:28:11.502
  • And i had grown up just thinking
  • 00:28:12.136 --> 00:28:13.604
  • The old statesman of blackwood brothers and rc victor
  • 00:28:13.604 --> 00:28:17.040
  • Were the greatest things since ice cream.
  • 00:28:17.040 --> 00:28:19.476
  • Let's invite some of them and jake and hovey
  • 00:28:19.476 --> 00:28:21.745
  • And people who were james blackwood
  • 00:28:21.745 --> 00:28:24.548
  • And just do this one last project,
  • 00:28:24.548 --> 00:28:27.117
  • Which was going to be our omega, the end.
  • 00:28:27.117 --> 00:28:29.620
  • - yeah.
  • 00:28:29.853 --> 00:28:31.255
  • - well, it was a just an audio project.
  • 00:28:32.122 --> 00:28:33.690
  • - yeah, just audio.
  • 00:28:33.690 --> 00:28:34.625
  • - the video piece was just one.
  • 00:28:34.625 --> 00:28:36.093
  • - yeah, and we were gonna hang it up
  • 00:28:36.093 --> 00:28:37.961
  • And there was just one camera watching this in the studio.
  • 00:28:37.961 --> 00:28:41.865
  • - [matt] that's what i remember.
  • 00:28:41.865 --> 00:28:43.000
  • That's what i remember - . yeah.
  • 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:44.234
  • And it wasn't very good, just one mic,
  • 00:28:44.234 --> 00:28:46.136
  • And then we had to piece it together and everything.
  • 00:28:46.136 --> 00:28:48.972
  • God's got a weird sense of humor.
  • 00:28:48.972 --> 00:28:51.608
  • That was gonna be our swan song, okay.
  • 00:28:51.608 --> 00:28:56.947
  • - look what's happens. - yes.
  • 00:28:57.614 --> 00:28:58.816
  • - there was one song- - my goodness.
  • 00:28:58.816 --> 00:29:00.117
  • - "where could i go but to the lord", i think.
  • 00:29:00.117 --> 00:29:01.485
  • - we were gonna do that great old j.b, coats song.
  • 00:29:01.485 --> 00:29:03.587
  • - just one song.
  • 00:29:03.587 --> 00:29:05.122
  • - neighbors are fine, kind, i love them, every one
  • 00:29:05.122 --> 00:29:08.859
  • We get along in sweet accord.
  • 00:29:08.859 --> 00:29:11.161
  • But when my soul needs manna from above,
  • 00:29:11.161 --> 00:29:13.964
  • Where could i go but to the lord
  • 00:29:13.964 --> 00:29:16.600
  • Where could i go, where?
  • 00:29:16.600 --> 00:29:17.968
  • We got 'em all in and everybody sang a line
  • 00:29:17.968 --> 00:29:20.137
  • And we were gonna go home.
  • 00:29:20.137 --> 00:29:21.905
  • - my goodness. - oh my goodness.
  • 00:29:21.905 --> 00:29:24.308
  • - but we took a break
  • 00:29:24.308 --> 00:29:25.909
  • And brought in colonel sanders fried chicken.
  • 00:29:25.909 --> 00:29:28.579
  • (laurie laughs) - it was good, it was good.
  • 00:29:28.579 --> 00:29:30.747
  • - [laurie] finger licking good. (laughs)
  • 00:29:30.747 --> 00:29:31.715
  • - finger licking good.
  • 00:29:31.715 --> 00:29:34.318
  • Got around the piano to take a picture.
  • 00:29:34.318 --> 00:29:38.956
  • Eva mae lefevre was sitting at a piano,
  • 00:29:38.956 --> 00:29:41.692
  • Mylon's mother. - for sure.
  • 00:29:41.692 --> 00:29:43.360
  • - and larry gatlin was there.
  • 00:29:43.994 --> 00:29:46.730
  • 'cause he just grew up loving that music.
  • 00:29:46.730 --> 00:29:48.599
  • - yeah. yeah.
  • 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:49.733
  • - he said, "eva mae, play something."
  • 00:29:49.733 --> 00:29:50.667
  • She started playing.
  • 00:29:50.667 --> 00:29:52.169
  • ♪ i will meet you in the morning by the ♪
  • 00:29:52.169 --> 00:29:56.440
  • They all started singing, tears rolling down their face,
  • 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.743
  • Started telling stories for three or four hours.
  • 00:29:59.743 --> 00:30:04.014
  • We had one camera, one mic.
  • 00:30:04.014 --> 00:30:06.116
  • - and you were like a kid in a candy store.
  • 00:30:06.116 --> 00:30:07.818
  • - oh.
  • 00:30:07.818 --> 00:30:09.219
  • - i got all these people that i love are in one room.
  • 00:30:09.219 --> 00:30:11.555
  • He knew everything they'd ever sung,
  • 00:30:11.555 --> 00:30:13.523
  • What key they were in. - i knew every song.
  • 00:30:13.523 --> 00:30:15.058
  • I could play 'em in every key that they sang them in.
  • 00:30:15.058 --> 00:30:17.861
  • It was a spirit filled three or four hours.
  • 00:30:17.861 --> 00:30:21.265
  • I asked the video crew, "what are you gonna do with those?"
  • 00:30:22.466 --> 00:30:25.302
  • They said, "we just wanna get some bits and pieces
  • 00:30:25.302 --> 00:30:27.471
  • Of some hugs and stuff."
  • 00:30:27.471 --> 00:30:29.673
  • I said, "can i see it?"
  • 00:30:29.673 --> 00:30:31.308
  • So we brought it up just, you know, the rough cut.
  • 00:30:31.308 --> 00:30:33.577
  • - they were gonna throw it away when they get there.
  • 00:30:33.577 --> 00:30:35.112
  • - gloria and i- - treatment of the song.
  • 00:30:35.112 --> 00:30:36.613
  • - we were in our bedroom watching it,
  • 00:30:36.613 --> 00:30:38.949
  • Tears rolling down our faces.
  • 00:30:38.949 --> 00:30:41.285
  • This may not be technically good,
  • 00:30:42.019 --> 00:30:43.720
  • But boy this is, this is good here.
  • 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.456
  • So i went down to anderson university
  • 00:30:46.456 --> 00:30:48.725
  • And i said, "can you help me put this together?"
  • 00:30:49.693 --> 00:30:51.929
  • I never done any kind of tv or video.
  • 00:30:51.929 --> 00:30:54.965
  • We scratched an hour out of that four or five hours
  • 00:30:55.966 --> 00:30:59.036
  • That we had that we could use,
  • 00:30:59.036 --> 00:31:00.304
  • Because we had to break up songs and everything.
  • 00:31:00.304 --> 00:31:02.606
  • - people walking in front of the camera.
  • 00:31:02.606 --> 00:31:04.241
  • - yeah. - i remember. (laughs)
  • 00:31:04.241 --> 00:31:07.244
  • - but god took it. that was the first one.
  • 00:31:07.244 --> 00:31:09.813
  • - my goodness. - and the second one,
  • 00:31:09.813 --> 00:31:11.448
  • Then the third one, then,
  • 00:31:11.448 --> 00:31:13.483
  • Then we were in the sidney opera house, carnegie hall.
  • 00:31:13.483 --> 00:31:16.920
  • Kennedy center. - jerusalem.
  • 00:31:17.554 --> 00:31:20.557
  • - [bill] wesleyan tabernacle in marion, indiana.
  • 00:31:20.557 --> 00:31:23.894
  • - [matt] david citadel, jerusalem.
  • 00:31:23.894 --> 00:31:25.629
  • - yep. - yes.
  • 00:31:25.629 --> 00:31:27.164
  • And i mean, the whole thing has been amazing.
  • 00:31:27.164 --> 00:31:29.866
  • - south africa. - yeah.
  • 00:31:29.866 --> 00:31:31.368
  • - up to this particular time, like last fall,
  • 00:31:31.368 --> 00:31:36.673
  • The latest one we've done is gonna be the first one
  • 00:31:37.741 --> 00:31:39.710
  • That we show on this saturday night thing.
  • 00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:43.380
  • 'cause we've done everything, we've been everywhere.
  • 00:31:43.380 --> 00:31:46.350
  • On our concerts, when we have three or four or five or six,
  • 00:31:47.551 --> 00:31:50.821
  • Sometimes 10 groups, like on family fest in gatlinburg,
  • 00:31:50.821 --> 00:31:54.591
  • We have a lot of artists.
  • 00:31:54.591 --> 00:31:56.293
  • And before we go on the stage, we're backstage.
  • 00:31:56.293 --> 00:31:58.362
  • I say, "let's sing."
  • 00:31:58.362 --> 00:32:00.230
  • So we start singing acapella.
  • 00:32:00.864 --> 00:32:03.000
  • It's a convention hall,
  • 00:32:03.500 --> 00:32:05.435
  • So there's a lot of cement, solid surface.
  • 00:32:05.435 --> 00:32:08.138
  • And we start singing acapella
  • 00:32:08.138 --> 00:32:10.640
  • And it gets good and gooder-
  • 00:32:11.241 --> 00:32:14.244
  • - [laurie] (laughs) and gooder, that's right.
  • 00:32:14.244 --> 00:32:15.779
  • - and we keep saying, "come in closer, come in closer".
  • 00:32:15.779 --> 00:32:18.815
  • Sometimes that goes on for 30 minutes.
  • 00:32:19.649 --> 00:32:21.718
  • - my goodness. - before the...
  • 00:32:21.718 --> 00:32:23.053
  • - and the artists say,
  • 00:32:23.053 --> 00:32:25.756
  • "why don't we bring the crowd from out there in the hall"-
  • 00:32:26.923 --> 00:32:30.193
  • - [gloria] back here in the hallway.
  • 00:32:30.193 --> 00:32:31.395
  • - back here in this little closed area.
  • 00:32:31.395 --> 00:32:33.463
  • And you can't do that.
  • 00:32:33.463 --> 00:32:34.998
  • Once you get out there, you got microphones and all of that.
  • 00:32:34.998 --> 00:32:38.035
  • - a big space. - mm.
  • 00:32:38.035 --> 00:32:39.302
  • - so last year, we go to a place
  • 00:32:39.936 --> 00:32:44.307
  • Right outside of franklin called the barn at sycamore.
  • 00:32:44.307 --> 00:32:48.645
  • We have 200 artists in there.
  • 00:32:48.645 --> 00:32:51.515
  • Matt and laurie,
  • 00:32:51.882 --> 00:32:54.718
  • I still can't believe that we were able
  • 00:32:55.585 --> 00:32:58.789
  • To get what we got backstage
  • 00:32:58.789 --> 00:33:01.491
  • At the convention center in gatlinburg in that room.
  • 00:33:01.491 --> 00:33:05.262
  • - beautiful. - but we did,
  • 00:33:05.262 --> 00:33:06.196
  • We had eight mics on the crowd.
  • 00:33:06.196 --> 00:33:08.398
  • Half of the video was acapella.
  • 00:33:09.032 --> 00:33:10.667
  • - my goodness. - wow.
  • 00:33:10.667 --> 00:33:12.035
  • - and three fourths of it is totally non produced
  • 00:33:12.035 --> 00:33:15.005
  • As far as any prerecording. - the best.
  • 00:33:15.005 --> 00:33:18.041
  • - the spontaneous stuff that happened.
  • 00:33:18.041 --> 00:33:20.143
  • - and these singers are southern gospel singers.
  • 00:33:20.143 --> 00:33:22.279
  • So they sing from their gut, you know?
  • 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.549
  • So 200 of them in that wooden space-
  • 00:33:25.549 --> 00:33:28.652
  • - (laughs) i love it.
  • 00:33:28.652 --> 00:33:29.953
  • - and i didn't believe they could get the.
  • 00:33:29.953 --> 00:33:31.922
  • - the sound that was happening in that room,
  • 00:33:32.823 --> 00:33:35.592
  • And they did.
  • 00:33:35.592 --> 00:33:36.760
  • - wow. - i can't believe they did.
  • 00:33:36.760 --> 00:33:39.162
  • - when they sang, "pass me not, o gentle savior,
  • 00:33:39.162 --> 00:33:43.066
  • Hear my humble cry,"
  • 00:33:43.066 --> 00:33:44.334
  • But when they got to that chorus, it's...
  • 00:33:44.334 --> 00:33:45.936
  • ♪ savior
  • 00:33:45.936 --> 00:33:50.440
  • "hear my humble cry."
  • 00:33:48.905 --> 00:33:51.975
  • (gloria chuckles)
  • 00:33:51.975 --> 00:33:53.009
  • You could feel it.
  • 00:33:53.009 --> 00:33:54.044
  • ♪ savior
  • 00:33:54.044 --> 00:34:03.053
  • ♪ savior
  • 00:34:03.353 --> 00:34:10.193
  • - [bill] and it's like deja vu.
  • 00:34:10.827 --> 00:34:13.396
  • It's like we're starting all over again,
  • 00:34:13.396 --> 00:34:15.732
  • - [laurie] mm.
  • 00:34:15.732 --> 00:34:17.667
  • - and i'm excited to be able to share this
  • 00:34:17.667 --> 00:34:20.237
  • - yeah. - with the tbn family,
  • 00:34:20.237 --> 00:34:22.873
  • Because the folks that watch this channel
  • 00:34:22.873 --> 00:34:26.676
  • Know something about heart.
  • 00:34:26.676 --> 00:34:27.911
  • - yeah. - and they know it
  • 00:34:27.911 --> 00:34:29.613
  • When they feel it.
  • 00:34:29.613 --> 00:34:30.981
  • - and they've been watching you for 30 years.
  • 00:34:30.981 --> 00:34:32.516
  • (bill laughs)
  • 00:34:32.516 --> 00:34:33.650
  • - [laurie] and it's heaven on earth.
  • 00:34:33.650 --> 00:34:35.685
  • - hi, i'm bill gaither,
  • 00:34:36.186 --> 00:34:38.021
  • And i'm thrilled to invite you
  • 00:34:38.021 --> 00:34:39.723
  • To the premiere "gaither gospel hour,"
  • 00:34:39.723 --> 00:34:42.425
  • Starting february the first,
  • 00:34:42.425 --> 00:34:44.427
  • Every saturday night at 8:00 pm,
  • 00:34:44.427 --> 00:34:46.730
  • And again at 11:00 pm eastern standard time.
  • 00:34:46.730 --> 00:34:50.367
  • We'll gather to celebrate faith, family,
  • 00:34:50.367 --> 00:34:53.236
  • And the timeless power of gospel music.
  • 00:34:53.236 --> 00:34:56.540
  • Mark your calendars and join us only on tbn and tbn+.
  • 00:34:56.540 --> 00:35:01.811
  • (gentle gospel music)
  • 00:35:02.312 --> 00:35:07.417
  • - [laurie] gloria has a beautiful blog she writes
  • 00:35:08.418 --> 00:35:12.022
  • That you can find on gaither.com, right?
  • 00:35:12.022 --> 00:35:14.658
  • - mm-hmm. - and what's the name
  • 00:35:14.658 --> 00:35:15.992
  • Of your blog? - it's in lovesongtomylife,
  • 00:35:15.992 --> 00:35:17.561
  • One word, .com.
  • 00:35:17.561 --> 00:35:18.962
  • - [laurie] and it's just beautiful.
  • 00:35:18.962 --> 00:35:21.464
  • - we were reading - beautiful.
  • 00:35:21.464 --> 00:35:23.233
  • - your blog from late last year.
  • 00:35:23.233 --> 00:35:26.870
  • I think it was, you posted it in november,
  • 00:35:26.870 --> 00:35:29.306
  • And you were sitting at a little cafe
  • 00:35:29.306 --> 00:35:33.543
  • And you had ordered coffee and you'd ordered
  • 00:35:33.543 --> 00:35:37.180
  • - an egg. - an egg and a muffin.
  • 00:35:37.914 --> 00:35:39.950
  • - and a unique experience happened that permeated
  • 00:35:39.950 --> 00:35:44.621
  • And it's a theme that maybe we can talk about for a minute,
  • 00:35:44.621 --> 00:35:49.960
  • But kinda tell, that little story is beautiful.
  • 00:35:50.927 --> 00:35:52.195
  • - well, it was a cold day
  • 00:35:52.195 --> 00:35:55.065
  • And it was raining and really blustery,
  • 00:35:55.065 --> 00:35:56.933
  • And i had dived into this little cafe
  • 00:35:56.933 --> 00:36:00.136
  • To get coffee on my way to get my hair done.
  • 00:36:00.136 --> 00:36:03.139
  • And it was busy in that morning
  • 00:36:03.773 --> 00:36:05.609
  • Because everybody had done the same thing.
  • 00:36:05.609 --> 00:36:07.510
  • So this waitress was busy.
  • 00:36:07.510 --> 00:36:10.380
  • She brought my egg in a record time.
  • 00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:12.549
  • I couldn't believe how fast i got it.
  • 00:36:12.549 --> 00:36:14.184
  • And she looked me in the eye,
  • 00:36:14.184 --> 00:36:16.519
  • - [matt] mm.
  • 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:17.821
  • - and sat down my order and she said, "enjoy."
  • 00:36:17.821 --> 00:36:22.259
  • It was the first time i'd ever heard anybody say that.
  • 00:36:22.259 --> 00:36:24.427
  • It's used a lot now, but it wasn't then.
  • 00:36:24.427 --> 00:36:27.764
  • And that moment between us
  • 00:36:28.331 --> 00:36:32.969
  • Just echoed in my mind the rest of the day.
  • 00:36:33.870 --> 00:36:37.440
  • - mm. - and so the blog is about
  • 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:41.278
  • How my day unfolded,
  • 00:36:41.278 --> 00:36:43.380
  • But the word of that one waitress said,
  • 00:36:43.380 --> 00:36:47.984
  • This is a moment, don't miss it.
  • 00:36:47.984 --> 00:36:51.121
  • You know, you've got this perfectly done egg like i asked.
  • 00:36:51.121 --> 00:36:55.625
  • You know, this lady who is busy, busy
  • 00:36:55.625 --> 00:36:57.727
  • And takes time to smile at me and look at me,
  • 00:36:57.727 --> 00:37:00.063
  • And tell me to enjoy.
  • 00:37:00.063 --> 00:37:01.665
  • There are blessings all around us, and we live too fast
  • 00:37:02.766 --> 00:37:05.702
  • And we live too blind.
  • 00:37:05.702 --> 00:37:07.137
  • - [matt] mm.
  • 00:37:07.137 --> 00:37:08.471
  • - and there is always something else,
  • 00:37:08.471 --> 00:37:10.674
  • Not just what's happening,
  • 00:37:10.674 --> 00:37:13.043
  • But the fragrance, the smell, the sound,
  • 00:37:13.043 --> 00:37:17.247
  • The beauty, the sight.
  • 00:37:17.247 --> 00:37:20.250
  • And i think if jesus does anything for our lives,
  • 00:37:21.251 --> 00:37:24.054
  • It is to sharpen everything.
  • 00:37:24.054 --> 00:37:26.556
  • - yeah. - you hear people,
  • 00:37:26.556 --> 00:37:27.691
  • When they first meet god, saying,
  • 00:37:27.691 --> 00:37:29.392
  • ♪ and to touch
  • 00:37:29.392 --> 00:37:31.494
  • ♪ as it slips through
  • 00:37:31.494 --> 00:37:33.496
  • - "the sounds were different.
  • 00:37:33.496 --> 00:37:35.365
  • The sky was bluer. the grass was greener."
  • 00:37:35.365 --> 00:37:38.401
  • And it's always been, so what changed?
  • 00:37:38.401 --> 00:37:41.805
  • The awareness that there is something eternal going on
  • 00:37:41.805 --> 00:37:45.108
  • In every moment. - mm-hmm.
  • 00:37:45.108 --> 00:37:46.876
  • - and we are not fit for eternity
  • 00:37:46.876 --> 00:37:48.845
  • If we don't recognize the eternity
  • 00:37:48.845 --> 00:37:50.880
  • In the moments that we have.
  • 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:52.315
  • - [matt and laurie] that's beautiful.
  • 00:37:52.315 --> 00:37:53.583
  • - and that opens up such a heart of gratitude
  • 00:37:53.583 --> 00:37:55.885
  • - gratitude, absolutely. - and thankfulness,
  • 00:37:55.885 --> 00:37:58.121
  • And that heals everything,
  • 00:37:58.121 --> 00:37:59.789
  • - absolutely. - you know?
  • 00:37:59.789 --> 00:38:01.257
  • - tender words,
  • 00:38:01.257 --> 00:38:02.625
  • Gentle touch,
  • 00:38:02.625 --> 00:38:05.628
  • And a good cup of coffee.
  • 00:38:06.196 --> 00:38:07.530
  • - [matt and laurie] mm.
  • 00:38:07.530 --> 00:38:09.132
  • - and someone who loves me
  • 00:38:09.132 --> 00:38:11.301
  • (gentle gospel music)
  • 00:38:11.301 --> 00:38:13.002
  • And wants me to stay.
  • 00:38:13.002 --> 00:38:14.304
  • ♪ ooh
  • 00:38:14.304 --> 00:38:15.872
  • - hold them near while they're here.
  • 00:38:15.872 --> 00:38:19.209
  • ♪ ooh
  • 00:38:19.209 --> 00:38:21.244
  • - ah, don't wait for tomorrow
  • 00:38:21.244 --> 00:38:23.847
  • To look back
  • 00:38:24.180 --> 00:38:25.615
  • And wish for this day.
  • 00:38:26.116 --> 00:38:31.521
  • ♪ we have this moment
  • 00:38:32.055 --> 00:38:35.291
  • ♪ to hold in our hands and to touch ♪
  • 00:38:35.291 --> 00:38:40.597
  • ♪ as it slips through our fingers like sand ♪
  • 00:38:41.531 --> 00:38:46.569
  • ♪ yesterday's gone ♪ yesterday's gone
  • 00:38:47.437 --> 00:38:51.574
  • ♪ and tomorrow may never come
  • 00:38:51.574 --> 00:38:56.179
  • ♪ but we have this moment today ♪
  • 00:38:56.179 --> 00:39:00.517
  • - what seems to be the most important aspect
  • 00:39:00.517 --> 00:39:05.588
  • Of a christian life, a christian faith, a journey?
  • 00:39:06.623 --> 00:39:11.094
  • What theme, what big idea do you think
  • 00:39:11.928 --> 00:39:15.465
  • Is the most important to you at your age?
  • 00:39:15.465 --> 00:39:18.435
  • - can i start?
  • 00:39:18.435 --> 00:39:19.636
  • - sure. - and then let you finish it.
  • 00:39:19.636 --> 00:39:22.672
  • That's always worked. - it's the way we work,
  • 00:39:23.606 --> 00:39:24.841
  • Isn't it? - that's that way.
  • 00:39:24.841 --> 00:39:27.410
  • The word perspective comes to me.
  • 00:39:28.144 --> 00:39:30.447
  • - [interviewer] okay.
  • 00:39:30.447 --> 00:39:31.281
  • - we started writing
  • 00:39:31.281 --> 00:39:32.615
  • Because we looked at writers like mosie lister
  • 00:39:32.615 --> 00:39:36.986
  • Who wrote great, great songs, "till the storm passes over,
  • 00:39:36.986 --> 00:39:41.324
  • Till the thunder sounds no more,
  • 00:39:41.324 --> 00:39:43.760
  • Till the clouds roll forever from the sky,
  • 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.130
  • Hold me fast, let me stand-"
  • 00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:50.266
  • - "in the hollow-" - "in the hollow
  • 00:39:50.266 --> 00:39:51.100
  • Of your hand.
  • 00:39:51.100 --> 00:39:52.669
  • Keep me safe till the storm passes by."
  • 00:39:52.669 --> 00:39:58.341
  • ♪ till the clouds roll forever
  • 00:39:58.975 --> 00:40:04.247
  • ♪ from the sky
  • 00:40:04.614 --> 00:40:09.552
  • ♪ hold me fast, let me stand
  • 00:40:10.186 --> 00:40:15.058
  • ♪ in the hollow of thy hand
  • 00:40:15.692 --> 00:40:20.196
  • ♪ keep me safe
  • 00:40:20.563 --> 00:40:22.765
  • ♪ till the storm passes by
  • 00:40:22.765 --> 00:40:27.170
  • - it's about perspective.
  • 00:40:27.170 --> 00:40:29.339
  • It's about seeking first
  • 00:40:29.839 --> 00:40:31.875
  • The kingdom of god and his righteousness
  • 00:40:31.875 --> 00:40:34.077
  • And all these other things will be added.
  • 00:40:34.077 --> 00:40:36.513
  • It's about keeping your head
  • 00:40:36.513 --> 00:40:38.348
  • When everybody else is losing theirs.
  • 00:40:38.348 --> 00:40:40.583
  • It's about- - and blaming it on you.
  • 00:40:40.583 --> 00:40:42.719
  • - (laughs) there you go. - it's a bit like that.
  • 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.421
  • And it's about, "there shall be no other gods before me."
  • 00:40:45.421 --> 00:40:50.093
  • We had never used that in a song until we wrote the song,
  • 00:40:50.093 --> 00:40:53.530
  • "i'll worship only at the feet of jesus,"
  • 00:40:53.530 --> 00:40:56.533
  • - [both] "his cup alone, my holy grail,
  • 00:40:56.533 --> 00:40:59.335
  • There'll be no other gods before him
  • 00:40:59.335 --> 00:41:03.106
  • Just jesus only" whenever, okay.
  • 00:41:03.106 --> 00:41:05.441
  • That's life-changing stuff. - yes.
  • 00:41:05.441 --> 00:41:08.411
  • - i don't care what you're going through.
  • 00:41:08.411 --> 00:41:11.314
  • If you can start understanding stuff like that,
  • 00:41:11.314 --> 00:41:16.586
  • It's life changing.
  • 00:41:17.053 --> 00:41:18.254
  • - somebody asked me the other day,
  • 00:41:18.254 --> 00:41:19.722
  • And this, i think is, would be my answer to that.
  • 00:41:19.722 --> 00:41:23.226
  • "what is the most important word
  • 00:41:23.226 --> 00:41:24.961
  • You've ever used in a song?"
  • 00:41:24.961 --> 00:41:26.296
  • Now, what kind of a crazy question is that?
  • 00:41:26.296 --> 00:41:29.299
  • But without thinking i said, "home."
  • 00:41:29.299 --> 00:41:31.701
  • Everybody is either...
  • 00:41:31.701 --> 00:41:34.304
  • Had a great home,
  • 00:41:34.304 --> 00:41:36.105
  • Never had a great home,
  • 00:41:36.606 --> 00:41:38.341
  • Is longing for a home they never had or did have
  • 00:41:39.342 --> 00:41:42.845
  • And can't wait to get home
  • 00:41:43.413 --> 00:41:45.248
  • Or dreading to come home.
  • 00:41:45.248 --> 00:41:47.216
  • Every word has to be loaded. it has to be a cargo.
  • 00:41:48.251 --> 00:41:52.188
  • So it matters whether you use house
  • 00:41:52.989 --> 00:41:57.193
  • Or hovel or shack or whatever.
  • 00:41:57.193 --> 00:42:01.598
  • You can't afford non-specific words.
  • 00:42:01.598 --> 00:42:04.767
  • I'm not saying big words, i mean the right word.
  • 00:42:04.767 --> 00:42:08.538
  • But i keep coming back to home.
  • 00:42:09.172 --> 00:42:12.408
  • It's probably the most important concept
  • 00:42:12.408 --> 00:42:14.677
  • Because if you're trying to talk to people about living
  • 00:42:14.677 --> 00:42:19.949
  • With eternity in your heart,
  • 00:42:20.550 --> 00:42:21.918
  • That place is home and you judge everything by it.
  • 00:42:22.952 --> 00:42:26.990
  • So i don't care what experience you're having,
  • 00:42:26.990 --> 00:42:31.961
  • Home is the most loaded.
  • 00:42:32.462 --> 00:42:34.530
  • And it's informed by what home means to you.
  • 00:42:35.431 --> 00:42:40.637
  • And it's informed by what home means to you.
  • 00:42:41.537 --> 00:42:44.173
  • And many people have never had a home.
  • 00:42:44.173 --> 00:42:47.610
  • They know what it is and they long for it.
  • 00:42:48.511 --> 00:42:51.314
  • But they know what it is because of what wasn't.
  • 00:42:52.281 --> 00:42:58.855
  • But i think when we come to christ,
  • 00:42:59.589 --> 00:43:03.393
  • And this is the epitome of maybe all of our writing,
  • 00:43:03.393 --> 00:43:07.030
  • We have finally come home.
  • 00:43:07.597 --> 00:43:11.234
  • And i believe that eternity starts here.
  • 00:43:12.101 --> 00:43:15.171
  • It's not out there someplace, eternity starts here.
  • 00:43:15.171 --> 00:43:20.276
  • And more and more, it is a widening,
  • 00:43:21.044 --> 00:43:24.514
  • You know, frame of light
  • 00:43:25.014 --> 00:43:27.684
  • To what is specifically gonna be home.
  • 00:43:28.451 --> 00:43:31.521
  • - the final thing that i wanna kinda ask you, gloria,
  • 00:43:32.588 --> 00:43:37.160
  • Something that you talked
  • 00:43:37.160 --> 00:43:38.861
  • About how it could have been,
  • 00:43:38.861 --> 00:43:42.799
  • In certain circumstances,
  • 00:43:42.799 --> 00:43:44.767
  • The crew of bill and gloria gaither that did more
  • 00:43:44.767 --> 00:43:49.439
  • For the sake of the gospel because they were the ones
  • 00:43:49.439 --> 00:43:54.377
  • That were interfacing with the, you know-
  • 00:43:54.377 --> 00:43:57.980
  • - crew. - individuals-
  • 00:43:57.980 --> 00:43:59.248
  • - the logistics,. - the real world,
  • 00:43:59.248 --> 00:44:00.550
  • The logistic people of an auditorium-
  • 00:44:00.550 --> 00:44:02.652
  • - totally agree. - who had seen it all-
  • 00:44:02.652 --> 00:44:05.321
  • - cynical. - seen the cynical,
  • 00:44:05.321 --> 00:44:07.156
  • Seen the good, bad, and the ugly of what has been
  • 00:44:07.156 --> 00:44:12.061
  • Inside of the church.
  • 00:44:12.061 --> 00:44:14.063
  • - a lot of things have been done in the name of jesus
  • 00:44:14.063 --> 00:44:16.766
  • That have been terribly damaging.
  • 00:44:16.766 --> 00:44:19.402
  • And there's nobody that knows that like the backstage crew.
  • 00:44:19.402 --> 00:44:22.538
  • - [host] (laughs) oh, god.
  • 00:44:22.538 --> 00:44:23.973
  • - many times our guys roll up.
  • 00:44:23.973 --> 00:44:25.875
  • We're getting ready someplace.
  • 00:44:25.875 --> 00:44:28.444
  • They roll up, and they're met sometimes
  • 00:44:29.312 --> 00:44:31.547
  • With people just cussing them out.
  • 00:44:31.547 --> 00:44:33.282
  • - [host] my goodness.
  • 00:44:33.282 --> 00:44:34.584
  • - like, we've seen this religious show before,
  • 00:44:34.584 --> 00:44:36.919
  • And you know, we've had 'em haul in the stretchers,
  • 00:44:36.919 --> 00:44:40.022
  • And the wheelchairs, and you know, come backstage,
  • 00:44:40.022 --> 00:44:43.426
  • And they don't believe any of it.
  • 00:44:43.426 --> 00:44:45.995
  • They don't like the attitudes of people behind stage.
  • 00:44:45.995 --> 00:44:50.533
  • And our guys have to,
  • 00:44:51.033 --> 00:44:54.537
  • By the way they plug in the cords, say,
  • 00:44:55.371 --> 00:44:58.641
  • "this is not what you think,"
  • 00:44:58.641 --> 00:45:02.011
  • And the way that they react to criticism sometimes,
  • 00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:07.150
  • You know, anger, sometimes profanity.
  • 00:45:07.150 --> 00:45:10.720
  • And i think sometimes our sound crew
  • 00:45:11.521 --> 00:45:16.425
  • Have done more for the gospel than we have.
  • 00:45:17.326 --> 00:45:20.129
  • - [host] hmm.
  • 00:45:20.496 --> 00:45:22.064
  • - and i'll do the other end of that.
  • 00:45:22.064 --> 00:45:24.433
  • I think the way after the show, if we go to mcdonald's,
  • 00:45:24.433 --> 00:45:28.437
  • And the way we talk to each other, and the way we-
  • 00:45:28.437 --> 00:45:31.474
  • - treat the waitresses. - treat the waitresses
  • 00:45:31.474 --> 00:45:33.643
  • Or demand things, and people, other people go to mcdonald's
  • 00:45:33.643 --> 00:45:38.414
  • As well, some from our program.
  • 00:45:38.414 --> 00:45:41.951
  • And i think we do more for
  • 00:45:41.951 --> 00:45:45.454
  • Or against the cause of christ at mcdonald's-
  • 00:45:45.454 --> 00:45:48.291
  • - my goodness.
  • 00:45:48.291 --> 00:45:49.759
  • - than we do on the stage. - on a stage, my goodness.
  • 00:45:49.759 --> 00:45:52.328
  • - it's one thing to say it.
  • 00:45:52.328 --> 00:45:54.063
  • We got the microphone.
  • 00:45:54.063 --> 00:45:56.199
  • We say what we wanna say and do what we wanna say,
  • 00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.202
  • But the way we live it out,
  • 00:45:59.802 --> 00:46:02.205
  • And jesus modeled it.
  • 00:46:02.705 --> 00:46:05.308
  • In fact, i have sometimes thought
  • 00:46:06.042 --> 00:46:09.712
  • It might be great sometime
  • 00:46:09.712 --> 00:46:11.714
  • At the yearly gma program,
  • 00:46:11.714 --> 00:46:16.419
  • They have about three days,
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  • To have a feet washing.
  • 00:46:18.120 --> 00:46:19.355
  • - [host] my goodness.
  • 00:46:19.355 --> 00:46:22.225
  • - just a serious feet washing.
  • 00:46:22.859 --> 00:46:24.827
  • I didn't grow up in that tradition. she did.
  • 00:46:25.695 --> 00:46:29.265
  • But anything to shake us
  • 00:46:29.765 --> 00:46:32.168
  • From a platform that, you know,
  • 00:46:32.168 --> 00:46:37.039
  • All we were gonna do was teach school.
  • 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.609
  • We never realized we'd be here,
  • 00:46:39.609 --> 00:46:41.410
  • (gloria and bill laughing)
  • 00:46:41.410 --> 00:46:42.945
  • You know, 60 years later talking about some wonderful things
  • 00:46:42.945 --> 00:46:46.616
  • That god has let us do.
  • 00:46:46.616 --> 00:46:52.521
  • - it's interesting you mentioned feet washing
  • 00:46:53.456 --> 00:46:56.158
  • Because of the first program that you're gonna air here.
  • 00:46:56.158 --> 00:46:59.962
  • Bill asked me to read one of the prayers
  • 00:47:00.830 --> 00:47:04.166
  • That i've written in a book called "simple prayers."
  • 00:47:04.166 --> 00:47:06.869
  • And that was a non-intentional book.
  • 00:47:06.869 --> 00:47:10.039
  • There was a time when i wasn't speaking to god
  • 00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.975
  • Because of some things that were going on in my life.
  • 00:47:12.975 --> 00:47:16.479
  • I still believed, and i was still writing copy
  • 00:47:17.380 --> 00:47:20.850
  • And doing what i do, but i didn't know what to say to him.
  • 00:47:20.850 --> 00:47:25.755
  • And i always carry a little tiny notebook in my purse,
  • 00:47:26.856 --> 00:47:30.326
  • And i would go, i like to write in an ambience of people.
  • 00:47:30.326 --> 00:47:34.630
  • I like a little corner of a cafe,
  • 00:47:34.630 --> 00:47:36.732
  • Or, you know, at starbucks at the mall,
  • 00:47:36.732 --> 00:47:40.236
  • Or just i feel people around, but i'm not alone.
  • 00:47:40.236 --> 00:47:46.475
  • And during this time, i kept getting distracted
  • 00:47:47.410 --> 00:47:50.646
  • By something that was happening.
  • 00:47:50.646 --> 00:47:52.415
  • One was a little carnival that was in the center of the mall
  • 00:47:52.415 --> 00:47:55.518
  • That i went to have a coffee, and i was watching these kids.
  • 00:47:55.518 --> 00:48:00.489
  • But those kind of things distracted me
  • 00:48:01.324 --> 00:48:03.559
  • From what i was writing.
  • 00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:05.461
  • And so i'd take off this little thing, and i'd write.
  • 00:48:05.461 --> 00:48:08.164
  • I mean, i had these little kids,
  • 00:48:08.164 --> 00:48:09.899
  • And i wrote a thing about the faster they spin,
  • 00:48:09.899 --> 00:48:14.103
  • The more this world is not here.
  • 00:48:14.103 --> 00:48:16.539
  • All that's there is the little other horses
  • 00:48:16.539 --> 00:48:18.908
  • On the merry-go-round.
  • 00:48:18.908 --> 00:48:20.276
  • (host laughs)
  • 00:48:20.276 --> 00:48:21.677
  • And even the people they love, their mothers waiting
  • 00:48:21.677 --> 00:48:23.779
  • For them to get off, disappear.
  • 00:48:23.779 --> 00:48:26.949
  • And so i wrote about that.
  • 00:48:26.949 --> 00:48:30.186
  • Well, after about.
  • 00:48:30.186 --> 00:48:32.054
  • - 20 or 30 of these instances,
  • 00:48:32.688 --> 00:48:34.423
  • I realized i was talking to somebody
  • 00:48:34.423 --> 00:48:40.863
  • And i realized without talking to god,
  • 00:48:41.697 --> 00:48:45.701
  • He was talking to me.
  • 00:48:45.701 --> 00:48:47.103
  • - my goodness. - so out of that
  • 00:48:47.103 --> 00:48:52.008
  • Came the prayer he asked me to read in this thing.
  • 00:48:52.008 --> 00:48:54.610
  • And one of the lines in it,
  • 00:48:54.610 --> 00:48:55.978
  • And i'm not sure is understood on the video
  • 00:48:55.978 --> 00:48:59.915
  • After watching it,
  • 00:48:59.915 --> 00:49:01.417
  • But it ends with, "don't let us get mud on your carpet.
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  • Let us walk into your presence."
  • 00:49:08.024 --> 00:49:10.760
  • And that came from a deep belief
  • 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:14.497
  • That we're called to walk the earth.
  • 00:49:14.497 --> 00:49:16.766
  • We're called to walk in the mud wherever where people are
  • 00:49:16.766 --> 00:49:21.003
  • And we're called to walk the earth.
  • 00:49:21.003 --> 00:49:23.139
  • But, and walking the earth, we get mud on our feet
  • 00:49:24.173 --> 00:49:25.641
  • And sometimes we can't tell where the mud stops
  • 00:49:25.641 --> 00:49:29.345
  • And our skin starts. - my goodness.
  • 00:49:29.345 --> 00:49:32.081
  • - we're so used to carrying the mud.
  • 00:49:32.081 --> 00:49:33.416
  • And what the reason we come together
  • 00:49:34.183 --> 00:49:35.951
  • And worship, the reason we're here today,
  • 00:49:35.951 --> 00:49:38.487
  • What we're doing here is in walking the earth,
  • 00:49:38.487 --> 00:49:41.490
  • We get mud on our feet and we don't realize,
  • 00:49:41.490 --> 00:49:43.893
  • But we come together to wash each other's feet.
  • 00:49:43.893 --> 00:49:47.797
  • That may be symbolic, it may be real.
  • 00:49:47.797 --> 00:49:49.999
  • I grew up where it was real
  • 00:49:49.999 --> 00:49:51.934
  • So that we can turn around, then we wash each other's feet,
  • 00:49:53.069 --> 00:49:57.440
  • So we can get back to the feet
  • 00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.109
  • And then we're ready to go again
  • 00:50:00.743 --> 00:50:04.680
  • Out into the world trudge in the mud if we have to,
  • 00:50:04.680 --> 00:50:07.883
  • Go where the heart hurt is.
  • 00:50:07.883 --> 00:50:09.985
  • But we keep coming back to wash each other's feet.
  • 00:50:09.985 --> 00:50:13.289
  • ♪ little is much when god is here ♪
  • 00:50:13.289 --> 00:50:17.893
  • - when i was four years old
  • 00:50:18.494 --> 00:50:20.763
  • Or five years old, was my first feet washing service
  • 00:50:20.763 --> 00:50:23.632
  • That i took part in.
  • 00:50:23.632 --> 00:50:25.167
  • And there was a little old lady that was in our church
  • 00:50:25.167 --> 00:50:28.504
  • And i thought she'd never had a problem.
  • 00:50:28.504 --> 00:50:30.139
  • I thought she was just a saint of god.
  • 00:50:30.139 --> 00:50:32.808
  • I got down on my little knees
  • 00:50:33.442 --> 00:50:35.544
  • And i watched them splash water on each other's feet.
  • 00:50:35.544 --> 00:50:38.881
  • And then they had a towel and i got up and she hugged me
  • 00:50:38.881 --> 00:50:41.917
  • And she smelled like she always did.
  • 00:50:41.917 --> 00:50:43.452
  • She wore some perfume that i loved,
  • 00:50:43.452 --> 00:50:45.588
  • But what i didn't count on was then it was her turn
  • 00:50:45.588 --> 00:50:50.259
  • And she got down on her arthritic knees
  • 00:50:51.127 --> 00:50:54.096
  • And washed my feet.
  • 00:50:54.096 --> 00:50:56.165
  • And i'll understand forever what peter meant
  • 00:50:56.165 --> 00:50:58.901
  • When he said to jesus, "no, no, no, no, no, no,
  • 00:50:59.835 --> 00:51:04.039
  • You're not gonna wash my feet."
  • 00:51:04.673 --> 00:51:06.976
  • And jesus said, "if you don't let me wash your feet,
  • 00:51:06.976 --> 00:51:10.146
  • You can't be a part of my kingdom."
  • 00:51:10.146 --> 00:51:11.847
  • In other words, you not only have to learn how to serve.
  • 00:51:11.847 --> 00:51:16.051
  • - wow.
  • 00:51:16.051 --> 00:51:17.186
  • - i think you've got that one on one,
  • 00:51:17.186 --> 00:51:19.021
  • Peter, you're getting that.
  • 00:51:19.021 --> 00:51:19.922
  • What you don't get is
  • 00:51:19.922 --> 00:51:24.927
  • That you have to be able to let somebody wash your feet.
  • 00:51:24.927 --> 00:51:28.063
  • So in this, in this video, there's this line,
  • 00:51:29.031 --> 00:51:32.935
  • "help us to not leave mud on your carpet."
  • 00:51:32.935 --> 00:51:37.039
  • And that is the aftermath of feet washing
  • 00:51:37.940 --> 00:51:42.278
  • For each other, is that we can walk right up
  • 00:51:42.278 --> 00:51:46.048
  • To the throne of grace.
  • 00:51:46.048 --> 00:51:48.817
  • And we don't leave any mud on the carpet.
  • 00:51:49.685 --> 00:51:52.288
  • - bill, we do christian television,
  • 00:51:52.288 --> 00:51:57.092
  • You do music, you do songs,
  • 00:51:57.092 --> 00:52:00.529
  • You do worship experiences for one reason,
  • 00:52:00.529 --> 00:52:04.800
  • And the same reason we've been doing,
  • 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.569
  • You've been doing it since the early sixties.
  • 00:52:06.569 --> 00:52:08.571
  • We've been doing it since the early seventies
  • 00:52:08.571 --> 00:52:12.007
  • Here at tbn,
  • 00:52:12.007 --> 00:52:13.609
  • Is to give an opportunity for people
  • 00:52:13.609 --> 00:52:15.511
  • That have tuned in to your broadcast
  • 00:52:15.511 --> 00:52:18.647
  • That starts february 1st here on tbn, saturdays
  • 00:52:18.647 --> 00:52:21.550
  • At eight and 11,
  • 00:52:21.550 --> 00:52:23.786
  • Or even the broadcast that we're watching right now.
  • 00:52:23.786 --> 00:52:26.222
  • Why don't you look into the camera
  • 00:52:26.222 --> 00:52:27.790
  • And lead people to jesus, if they're been enjoying this,
  • 00:52:27.790 --> 00:52:31.460
  • And then gloria, pray for the folks if you would please.
  • 00:52:31.460 --> 00:52:34.430
  • - he came to give us life and life abundant,
  • 00:52:35.331 --> 00:52:39.201
  • And i believe in that.
  • 00:52:39.201 --> 00:52:41.237
  • It's a fulfilling life.
  • 00:52:41.237 --> 00:52:43.872
  • It makes sense when the world doesn't make sense.
  • 00:52:43.872 --> 00:52:47.943
  • And all you have to do is call on him,
  • 00:52:47.943 --> 00:52:53.048
  • Pray to him and say, i want to be part of that.
  • 00:52:53.983 --> 00:52:58.020
  • - mm. - you can do it now.
  • 00:52:58.020 --> 00:53:00.589
  • You pray.
  • 00:53:00.589 --> 00:53:03.525
  • - lord, we believe
  • 00:53:03.959 --> 00:53:06.795
  • That you are coming again.
  • 00:53:07.363 --> 00:53:10.866
  • But we also believe that you are
  • 00:53:11.500 --> 00:53:13.569
  • Coming into our lives every minute, every day,
  • 00:53:13.569 --> 00:53:18.974
  • We pray that you would fill the hearts of those
  • 00:53:19.908 --> 00:53:22.511
  • Who are watching that are hungry.
  • 00:53:22.511 --> 00:53:25.314
  • We're all hungry, we live hungry.
  • 00:53:25.314 --> 00:53:28.851
  • But you came that we could live fed,
  • 00:53:29.618 --> 00:53:33.555
  • That we could live full.
  • 00:53:33.555 --> 00:53:38.093
  • And we prayed just now that those
  • 00:53:38.827 --> 00:53:41.196
  • Who are watching will open their hearts.
  • 00:53:41.196 --> 00:53:44.066
  • Give up the fight and let you love them.
  • 00:53:44.066 --> 00:53:47.870
  • Just let you love them.
  • 00:53:47.870 --> 00:53:49.672
  • And that love will change those lives.
  • 00:53:50.506 --> 00:53:53.208
  • Pray that they do that right now. amen.
  • 00:53:54.076 --> 00:53:58.480
  • - what song would you quote the words to,
  • 00:53:59.381 --> 00:54:02.451
  • Like you so often do to end this time together
  • 00:54:02.451 --> 00:54:07.256
  • That that we're sitting here.
  • 00:54:07.256 --> 00:54:09.725
  • - could we with ink, the ocean fill,
  • 00:54:09.725 --> 00:54:13.162
  • And where the skies of parchment made,
  • 00:54:13.162 --> 00:54:16.332
  • Where every stalk on earth a quill
  • 00:54:16.332 --> 00:54:19.768
  • And every man ascribe a trade,
  • 00:54:19.768 --> 00:54:22.971
  • To write the love of god above would drain the ocean dry.
  • 00:54:22.971 --> 00:54:28.310
  • Nor could the scroll contain the hole,
  • 00:54:29.144 --> 00:54:31.246
  • Though stretched from sky to sky.
  • 00:54:31.246 --> 00:54:34.149
  • Oh, love of god.
  • 00:54:34.149 --> 00:54:36.285
  • - such a pure ooh.
  • 00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.254
  • - i'll measure less
  • 00:54:39.254 --> 00:54:40.522
  • And strong it shall for evermore endure,
  • 00:54:40.522 --> 00:54:43.592
  • Those saints as bev would say...
  • 00:54:43.592 --> 00:54:45.561
  • ♪ those saints in aid just song ♪
  • 00:54:45.561 --> 00:54:52.668
  • And i believe it.
  • 00:54:53.102 --> 00:54:54.236
  • - we'll see you next time. bye-bye.
  • 00:54:55.037 --> 00:54:57.406
  • ♪ glory to
  • 00:54:57.740 --> 00:55:00.275
  • ♪ the saints and angels all (peaceful music)
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