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Cody Jefferson: You Were Made For More | Praise

September 30, 2025 | 53:43

In tonight's episode on Praise, Cody Jefferson shares his personal journey of facing challenges, wrestling with self-worth, and finding peace in the midst of chaos. As he recounts his struggles with ministry, relationships, and personal traumas, Kody emphasizes the importance of surrendering to God's plan, trusting in His timing, and embracing the preparation in the pullback seasons of life. Through powerful conversations and prayers, Cody's message resonates with viewers, offering hope, encouragement, and a reminder that true peace comes from letting go and allowing God to work through us.

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Praise | Cody Jefferson: You Were Made For More | Praise | September 30, 2025

>> coming up tonight on praise.
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>> but there's a peace to know that god is working all things
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Out for my good. everything that god has for you is going
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To come to pass. that there's no man, there's no thing,
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There's no season that can keep god from doing what god is
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Going to do, and to rest in the promise.
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>> tonight on praise from dallas motivational speaker and
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Founder and ceo of embrace the lion kody jefferson. and now
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Your host, matt and laurie crouch.
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>> kody jefferson, welcome to dallas, texas. i am thinking
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I'm not nearly as cool as you. i don't have nearly as cool a
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Tattoos, and so i really want you to kind of start this whole
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Episode and your your content impacts. lori and i personally
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Online. a lot of your social media, we're very familiar with
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Your content, but we want you to kind of start the way you
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Want to start this. i want you to kind of get into this. and
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And we're going to have a nice long discussion here. how do
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You want to get started?
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>> well, first i want to say it's an honor to be here. what
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An amazing opportunity i've been i've grown up on tbn. i
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Was raised by grandparents watching tbn as a kid. and, you
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Know, for me, it is. you ever find yourself in that season
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Where things just don't quite make sense? you know, you
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Mentioned the content and, you know, are there those seasons
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Where you feel like you're kind of doing all the right things,
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Or at least seemingly, you think you're doing all the
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Right things, you're saying the right prayers. you're you're
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Putting your money in the right places. and for some reason, it
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Feels like maybe god has forgotten you. it feels like no
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Matter what you do, it's like, man, i'm trying to take two
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Steps forward, but is it three steps back every single time?
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And what is happening? i find myself in this valley season,
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And i find myself where, man, i've created some real
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Mountaintop experiences. but where's god right now? i'm
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Doing all that i can do. i feel like i'm creating a war within
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Myself, and i'm just wondering, in the midst of all of it, when
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Does god see it through? and so for me, i'm i'm here to to
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Remind that god does have a plan that you haven't, in fact,
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Been forsaken, that sometimes the very wars that we create
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Are wars within ourselves to justify why we are where we are
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Based on maybe what we've experienced or what we feel we
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Deserve in this life. and so, yes, god has always had a plan.
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God does still have a plan. and in the midst of a season that
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Can feel like a pullback in the midst of a season where it
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Feels like, man, no matter what i do, i just don't know how to
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Get out of my own way. where is god in the middle of it? i'm
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Here to remind you that that that pullback isn't punishment.
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That it's preparation for something greater.
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>> we are familiar with that concept. we have a number of
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Stories we'll maybe get to later. but personally why don't
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You walk us through you know, you sound like somebody that's
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Talking from experience. yeah. and i know that, you know, you
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Could go all the way back to understand being a part of
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Ministry as a young age, even part of christian television
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Production that dates back, you know, 30 years ago or so. that
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You were a part of and that aired here on tbn. but why
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Don't you walk us through why you believe that this is your,
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Let's say, life message? you're really an expert at this
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Particular subject.
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>> oh, well, i committed myself to the valley season for a long
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Time. i didn't know that i was, but, you know, sometimes we can
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Find ourselves in seasons and situations where we're doing
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The best with what we know in our hands, not recognizing the
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Ways in which we're creating frustration in our own lives.
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And so, for me, i can tell you, i got into ministry at 19 years
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Old, which, by the way, you should never put someone in
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Ministry of a mega-church at 19 years old.
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>> note to self.
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>> note to.
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>> self.
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>> and and so, you know, it was it was a classic case. i loved
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Ministry 13 years occupationally. it was amazing.
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What i will tell you is that my talent and my charisma opened
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Doors, that my character wasn't seasoned to walk through. and i
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Found myself in this consistent battle of trying to prove that
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I was worth being there, prove that i was worth loving. i grew
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Up in a scenario where for the early part of my years, there
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Was just there was a lot of trauma, and there was a lot of
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Trying to manage emotions of unstable adults in my life. and
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So you start to learn to fix and you start to learn to self
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Protect, and you learn that i'm only worth loving if i'm useful.
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And so you recognize now getting into ministry early on
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Again, i loved the season. i loved the experience, i loved
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The people. but that's just like a straight hit to the vein
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Of somebody who doesn't know how to live life without
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Affirmation, without that need for approval. and so what
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Happens is you start saying yes to things that maybe you were
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Never called to or committed to. because if i don't, you're
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Going to find out who i really am. and if you know who i
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Really am in the past that i come from, you're not going to
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Want me anyways. and so we always look for the chaos and
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We look for the consternation, because that gives us something
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To solve. and in giving me something to solve. well, now i
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Have an opportunity for you to say great job, which is the
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Feedback. i need to know that now i'm worth loving. and so
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You fast forward that i get married. we we have a son. and
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In the midst of it all, i couldn't see that i had such an
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Incredible life because i was so committed to overworking,
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Over shepherding, over proving. and, you know, it eventually
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Led to to the divorce of of my son's mother and i. and i mean,
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Talk about a season of feeling like, man, what i'm trying to
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Do all the right things. i'm trying to say all the right
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Things. i'm studying the right things. i'm, i'm i'm showing up
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For all the people. and in the midst of that season, you know,
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I won't get too far into it because i want to respect other
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Everyone's threshold. but, you know, over the, over the period
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Of going through that divorce, i lost several family members
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And friends. i lost three, passed three pastor friends to
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Self-inflicted loss. i lost a sister in law to the same. i
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Lost an 18 month old niece to to murder. i lost a 19 year old
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Sister to murder. i lost a best friend from high school to an
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Accidental overdose. i lost my mentor of 15 years to a
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Motorcycle accident, all while going through a divorce, all
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While pastoring. every weekend. i've still got to be on. people
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Keep going and it's like, no, but god's still got a plan.
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We're good. we're okay. we're no. i'm fine. blessed to be a
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Blessing. heading, not the tail. all the things that i've been
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Programed to say. and it got to a point where my body actually
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Gave out and i went septic. so the cortisol, the stress, the
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Not sleeping because of things that i had seen and experienced,
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It got to be too much. and so we we all like to make the
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Statement that, you know, i'm built built different. you
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Might mentally think that you are, but your body's not. yeah.
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My body gave out. and it was in that season of not being able
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To see up from down. and, you know, if you've ever been in a
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Season where you just feel like you just keep taking hits, even
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Though you feel like i think i'm doing the right thing, but
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I don't really even know anymore because my ears won't
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Quit ringing and i'm just trying to make it through
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Another day, and i can't even process what's happening
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Because now something else is happening, and there's so many
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That can can resonate with a message that is. god. life is
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Like, what are we doing here? is this what i signed up for?
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Is this what is this what life is? and i can remember waking
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Up in that hospital emaciated and looking at myself in the
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Mirror and saying, who's coming to save you? you've spent your
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Whole life trying to serve and trying to please and trying to
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Be all things to all people, trying to prove that you're
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Worth loving. and i heard this very simple phrase that's now
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Become kind of the cornerstone of everything we do, which is
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What needs to die in me to become the man that i said that
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I'd be. because for so many years i had spoken about
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Resurrection and i had talked about the blood of christ. and
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I have talked about what a resurrection spirit looks like
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And what it looks like to to live this life that's on fire,
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Without recognizing that the only way resurrection happens
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Is without death. death of our ego, death of certain beliefs,
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Death of trying to be a victim to things. which is where i
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Camped out. i didn't know that i was.
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>> yeah.
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>> but there was this space that occupied that. like. no.
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Things have to be hard. no, i have to create chaos. because
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If i don't or i have to seek it out, at least, because if not,
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Then i'm not worth anything.
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>> wow.
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>> and so it wasn't until i started doing a lot of deep
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Work i stepped out of ministry. no great story there. i just
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Recognized, like, something's got to give. something.
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Something has to change in me. and i've got to figure out
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Where i believe this and why i feel this way, and why i'm
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Consistently just saying yes to everything, and why i'm
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Sacrificing my soul on the altar of some self-perceived
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Success. because if we're not taking it with us. yeah. then
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What's it all for? and what's it? what's it profit a man to
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Gain the world and to completely losing his soul,
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Lose his soul in the process. and that's kind of where i felt
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Like i was. and i think a lot of people feel like they are
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Right now going through the motions, doing the things,
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Saying yes to things that they're not really sure that
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They're committed to. all without an eternal perspective
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Of like, what is what is god doing in this season? not why
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Is all of this happening to me, but man in the midst of this
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Season, like, what is god trying to do through me that i
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Am resisting? wow. because i need to be right. you know,
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We're a culture that is desperate to be known, but we
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Will settle every day for being seen.
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>> oh.
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>> say that one more time.
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>> we are a culture that is desperate to be known. but we
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Will settle every day for being seen. we'll. we'll settle for
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The vanity metrics. we'll settle for the perfectly
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Polished pictures. you know, we'll settle for the likes and
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The comments and the shares. we'll settle for front facing
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Perfection instead of what we actually really want, which is
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To be seen and known and loved for not only who we've been,
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But for who we can be.
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>> yeah. wow.
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>> so the series of inciting incidents, as it were, is.
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Seeing brokenness in your parents marriage from a young
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Age. now your marriage is broken. death. family. friends.
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Colleagues.
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>> yeah.
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>> and a body that gave up and became infected due to the
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Levels of stress hormones flowing through your body. okay.
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That's about as bad as it gets. how do you build from there?
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Where is the revelation? what? what? little bits, parts, and
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Pieces did god start putting in you to rebuild to the person
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That you are today?
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>> that's a beautiful question, and i can say that one. it is
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The grace of god that i am here.
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>> yeah.
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>> sitting with you today. first and foremost. and then it
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Started to taking a long, introspective look, objectively
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Removing the need to have emotional attachment to
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Anything and just looking, you know, if we believe that we
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Know a tree by its fruit, then i need to start taking a long
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Audit process of the fruit that i'm producing. and is it
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Healthy fruit or is it rotten fruit? and also like, what are
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The what are the beliefs? how did we get here? because if if
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I have thoughts and those create beliefs and those
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Beliefs then manifest feelings. and based on those feelings i
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Take actions and then i get results. are these results
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Actually what i want? am i the sum of everything that i've
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Been taught to believe? am i the sum of everything that i've
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Experienced? and if i believe that to be true, well then,
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Could something else be true as well? do i do i have to believe
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The things that have just been running rampant in my brain for
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The past 30 something years? or could i, in fact believe a new
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Narrative? so it was a few things i will say. i'm a big
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Proponent of proper therapy and counseling. being able to talk
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Through things with someone who's qualified to help you
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Understand. i've been blessed with some of the best friends
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In ministry and pastoral leadership that can hold me to
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A level of accountability, because it's one thing you can
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Be completely honest with yourself and still not be
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Telling the truth. you know, so many times it takes an
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Objective viewpoint, but what i recognize is some of the voices
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That i've been listening to my entire life were some of the
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Voices that were actually poisoning some of the well. and
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So i needed some objective perspective, not someone who's
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Going to coddle me. i didn't require that. i needed truth,
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And i needed truth about the repercussions and the actual
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Damage that had been done as a result of what i believed about
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Myself and how that was creating results and what that
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Was doing in my life, and the lives of people around me. and
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Then i needed an action plan, because for so many of us, we i
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Could say, who do you want to become? and so many people be
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Like, i'm not really sure. okay, well, let's start here. what
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Are you not want anymore? what do you not want to experience
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In your marriage anymore? what do you not want to see? you
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Know, if we don't transform our trauma, we just transmit it to
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The people that we love the most. wow. and so for me, i
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Started seeing those pleaser actions in my son. and that was
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The trigger to me to say, no, no, no, this has to stop with
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Me.
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>> wow.
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>> he's taking on some of these patterns and traits.
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>> yeah.
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>> i don't want him to spend the next 30 years in the same
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Pit that i've been in. and so it was looking at those habits,
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Looking at those beliefs and saying, okay, well, if i want
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To believe something new, if i actually don't just want to
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Preach this word, if i actually believe it's true for me to,
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Because it's so interesting. i, you know, i've the opportunity
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To talk to so many people that are really, really good at
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Quoting scripture and really, really good at proclaiming it,
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But their lives don't. they don't reflect the actual
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Goodness of what that book is. and i can say that that was
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True in my own life. i was the mask that i could put on was
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Brilliant.
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>> wow.
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>> but behind it, i did not even know that the god in that
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Book actually wanted me.
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>> wow.
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>> so it feels like you were living this. do as i say, not
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As i do. kind of.
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>> like in some capacity. absolutely.
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>> and you were able to keep going because the affirmation
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Masked the the actual feeling of being a whole person,
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Knowing that you're loved by god. full stop.
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>> full stop.
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>> you could simulate that through affirmation of getting
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Other people excited to do the do the work and feel good about
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It. you were stuck and you were drowning.
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>> well. and absolutely. and and again, the intention was
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Pure. i think so many of us, if we're if we're really taking
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Audit of things and we recognize that we feel again,
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Like no matter what we're doing, there is just some sort of void.
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It's not that the intentions aren't pure. it's not that
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We're doing kind of the best with what we have in our hands.
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Right. we got those smooth stones and we're like, just
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Trying to take goliath out every single day, not
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Recognizing that the propensity of that is consistently trying
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To fight for victory somehow, instead of recognizing that the
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Victory's already been won.
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>> there you go. yeah. we're in.
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>> go ahead, babe.
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>> it just reminds me of kind of my. one of my stories was we
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Were just feel like we were drowning, doing what god called
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Us to do, you know? and i remember just walking outside
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Of my house, and i had my little dogs, and i was just.
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And i was saying out loud to the lord god, if you would just
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Keep us from scrambling so hard out of what i felt was a pure
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Heart, look at all that we could be doing for you if you
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Just would supply. and solve it, solve everything. and and when
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I said it, i said to myself, and i was talking, i said, that
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Is the most arrogant thing i think i've ever heard anybody
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Say. and i said it. and it was like the lord said, don't you
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Ever think it's anything that you do for me? but it's what i
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Want to do on the inside of you. you know, and it just rocked my
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World. and so i'm pretty careful to to stop at moments
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When you feel a little overwhelmed or what the heck is
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Going on right now. you know, how did how did we get here?
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And just say, god, you've you're in control.
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>> you're in.
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>> it all. and and what am i supposed to see right now
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Because i surrender. you know, it's that death to death to
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What god wants to put to death inside of you.
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>> yeah. and that's the only way that resurrection happens.
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We all want that story. we all want to have that kingdom
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Experience. but sometimes we're so committed to our own voice.
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Yeah. and we're so committed to being loud. even if it's loud.
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Praying to god.
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>> yeah.
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>> thinking that, like, where are you in the midst of us? and
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He's like. you know, i never went anywhere. but you've been
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Committed to your story, and you've been committed to seeing
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Things through an earthly perspective. and you've been
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Yeah, you've you've been doing great things. but, boy, if you
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Would just stop trying to earn my love and trying to prove
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This and just accept that. yeah, i've called you and what i call,
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I will see through. it may not make sense in the time frame.
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It may not make sense in the ways in which you thought it
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Should happen. it's going to feel like chaos. it felt like
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Chaos in the boat. absolutely. but you remember who's in
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Charge of the storm in the first place. because if i am,
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If there is a storm right now, it is seasoning something and
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The suffering is seasoning. and so we can't lose sight of what
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That means. we can't lose sight of the preparation that's
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Happening. it feels like punishment. but i can, even in
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My life, the pulpit that i stood behind has always was
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Always preparation for this platform today. there were
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Times that i couldn't see it. there were times that i
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Sabotaged myself, which we all do. even in the name of jesus,
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We'll do it. but recognizing, you know, for me, so much of
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This was pulling back from the noise. i was i was so committed
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To the noise of life. and again, for me, being busy and being
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Productive and always needing to move forward. and if
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Something didn't happen right, we've got to be quick to create
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Solution. and i do believe that there's space for that. and
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Also we have to make space for the silence as well, because
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God's not going to compete against the noise, right?
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Especially the noise that we're committed to.
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>> so yeah.
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>> it you know, there there is a i feel like there's there's
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Kind of two things here that we ought to kind of jump on a
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Little bit. it's almost like there are things that god has
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Called the church and his representatives of his kingdom
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To accomplish. and look, we're sitting here trying to do that
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Right now. okay. we're trying to bring voice to some people
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That don't that think that think that their value comes
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From applause, that their value comes from accomplishment, that
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Their value comes from likes or clicks or this or that or the
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Other thing. and that that you said was almost like, you know,
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Hitting a main line that can keep you going for a while. but
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Those are people that i think are truly intention to try to
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Bring the message of hope and love and grace to the world.
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You know, if i be lifted up, i'll draw all men unto myself.
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The that's that's kind of the corporate side of this thing.
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The personal journey you were trying to be a legitimate
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Pastor and help people. you weren't a scoundrel and a dirty,
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Rotten guy. you were love, right? you were legitimately
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Trying to do this, and your body had so much stress that it
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Went into an infection that literally could have taken your
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Life. that's extreme. so i'm going to, first of all, say
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You're an extreme guy. not only do you have extreme kind of
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Sleeves and all that kind of stuff, but but you literally
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Needed that fuel. yeah. to go. so what is the counter side of
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That if that's the wrong way to go, that your body will produce
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So much cortisol that it might kill you. now where did you
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Find the person sitting here today that is proud that you're
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93 year old grandma? granny is is watching there in in tulsa
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And say hi to your granny.
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>> hey, nanny.
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>> hey, nanny. hi, nanny.
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>> i love it. his nanny told him that someday he'd be
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Sitting here and. look.
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>> nanny, you were a prophetess. look at. he's sitting right
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Here.
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>> prayers of grandma.
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>> so? because of your grandma. and i think you're sitting here,
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Too.
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>> so the grandma, you're sitting here to.
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>> your grandma. you're sitting.
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>> your grandma. okay.
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>> just a bunch of grandmas.
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>> yeah, a bunch of grandmas.
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>> the grandma praying grandma club work for all three of us.
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>> that's it.
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>> so i think it's easier for everybody to kind of see this
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Corporate side, but it's a little more difficult to look
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In the mirror and say, am i trying to get my agenda done?
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And if i feel like i'm just in this funk and things are, you
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Know, you use this word pullback. you know, think of an
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Archer pulling a bow back. if the arrow, the farther the
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Pullback goes, the longer the farther the arrow will travel.
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And the the pullback is where a lot of people are sitting. the
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Pullback for you was wait a second i'm trying to do the
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Right thing here. and god was pulling you back for what what
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Divine piece of information were you missing that you know
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Now that you didn't know then?
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>> that is a phenomenal question. i think it's twofold.
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One, that patience is really undervalued, that there were
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Things that i wanted to rush that couldn't be rushed. and
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There were seasons again where just trying to prove things,
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Feeling inadequate, not recognizing that god was doing
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Something in me. and so, you know, an acorn never looks at
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The tree that it fell from and desires to rush the process of
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Becoming the tree. it just knows if i go in the ground.
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>> one day.
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>> one day, god's going to do what god does. and so patience,
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You know, to to be patient, to recognize that everything that
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God has for you is going to come to pass, that there's no
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Man, there's no thing, there's no season that can keep god
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From doing what god is going to do, and to rest in the promise
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And to rest in that comfort. and so the second thing that i
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Would say is that. for those of us who find ourselves
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Consistently fighting for peace, it's often because we don't
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Believe that we just deserve peace because it exists. and so
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For me, it was a journey of recognizing that i didn't need
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Chaos or problems to solve, or ways to feel affirmed, to
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Accept god's peace in my life. and i believe personally in
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Marketplace, you know, we can talk about success all day long.
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Peace is so highly undervalued. when you can, when you can sit
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With yourself and you can be confident in who god's called
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You to be, and you can be confident in the ways in which
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He's working through you. it may not make sense right now,
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But there's a peace to know that god is working all things
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Out for my good. and if i can, if i can stop the need to
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Consistently fix or solve or try to figure it out all the
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Time. and if i can step back and recognize again that this
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This season that i feel like i'm being pulled back and i
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Feel like i've been forgotten and i feel like, where is god
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In the midst of all of this trauma and trial? it's just a
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Valley. in a valley only exists between two mountains. and so
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If i'm in this season, let me give thanks, because god is
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Doing a work in me that i'm not yet ready to transcend that
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Next mountain that he's called me to. and so this pullback,
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While it feels like punishment, it's actually protection and
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Preparation so that my character can catch up with the
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Call and i can be equipped, then climb that mountain with
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Integrity, with wholeness, with, you know, as, as richard rohr
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Would say, nothing to prove, nothing to hide and nothing to
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Protect.
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>> that's beautiful. you know, i think i think the word peace.
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I mean, god is the prince of peace. so that's a character of
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God.
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>> said, i am your peace.
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>> i am your peace. peace i leave with you. so we have
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Peace. but i think if we think of peace, it's such a powerful
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Thing. it is because it's i am free from war. peace is being
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Free from war, you know, and a warring in my mind and a
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Warring in my soul. this is the most powerful thing we can show
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Is is god's peace in our life and things like this. because
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You know that if i've surrendered to the lord, i have
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To believe god that he is in control. that's it. he's all
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Powerful. there's nothing that can defeat. it's it. he's done
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It. all right. so there's really not an enemy to fight
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Because jesus already did that. so what am i thinking about?
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And they say that this is the the your mind is is the warfare
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Is the.
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>> battlefield.
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>> the battlefield of the mind. and so and so if i really
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Believe the truth of god's word and that there is no authority
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But of god, there is no power but of god, i will keep you in
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Perfect peace. whose mind is stayed in me? stayed on me.
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That is who god is. and he's here with me no matter where
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I'm at, you know? and that's just. that's such a place of
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Power to to be able to stay. and but i think the word
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Endurance. sure is the word endurance is kind of haunting
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Me right now, because it's like all the things, all the things
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That you've been talking about. and it seems like every day we
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Wake up to something new in the news, new shootings, new
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Happenings, new chaos, new everything but the endurance
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That i think is even maybe in this generation that's that's
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Calling on us right now to endure things. i think that's
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That's something that we just have to stay the course. we
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Just have to endure.
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>> you know, you were earlier, babe. you this this is like,
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Kind of the perfect thing, i think, because the context for
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The story that you even mentioned a while ago,
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Contextually, we were making christian movies. we lived in
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Hollywood, you know, we we felt like we were, you know, trying
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To.
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>> tell.
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>> stories, you know, like jesus did. and we were, you
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Know, struggling to raise money and keep employees. and the
00:31:11.689 --> 00:31:15.126
Context for lori, taking the dogs to the side of the house
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And having a conversation was scrambling, was making payroll,
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Making payroll taxes, getting the next film done. and, i mean,
00:31:24.836 --> 00:31:29.974
We were we were grinding there in hollywood for a big season
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Of our life, 15 years of our lives. we'd sell a car every
00:31:33.678 --> 00:31:37.715
Once in a while to make payroll. i mean, we were we were really
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Scrambling. and so in the context of what you just said
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And, and your story, you went out and said to the lord, if
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You'd solve our problems by just financing everything the
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Way we think, you should finance it, if you wouldn't
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Make us scramble so hard, you.
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>> could really do our.
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>> we'd really be able to do a lot for you. and that's when he
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Spun it around and said, it'll never be about what you do for
00:32:04.943 --> 00:32:10.682
Me, but what i do in you.
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>> what i do inside of you.
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>> and so it was really a complete role reversal. so what
00:32:15.853 --> 00:32:20.358
Is life really an understanding that god's in it all and he's
00:32:20.358 --> 00:32:25.496
Shaping i love your acorn and and giant tree thing. our
00:32:25.496 --> 00:32:31.569
Generation and this generation is looking for a shortcut. god
00:32:31.569 --> 00:32:36.140
Is literally has you on a pathway and you can fight it or
00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:42.680
You can flow with it. and many times we're fighting the very
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:48.586
Thing god is trying to strip away, and to make it worse than
00:32:48.586 --> 00:32:52.657
The body of christ gets it wrong most of the time. and if
00:32:52.657 --> 00:32:56.361
You are in a pullback season, everyone's pointing or wagging
00:32:56.361 --> 00:32:59.797
Their finger at you, thinking that it's because of some
00:32:59.797 --> 00:33:02.567
Secret sin in your life. and so everyone's judging these
00:33:02.567 --> 00:33:06.904
Pullbacks that god's doing to someone to get it right on the
00:33:06.904 --> 00:33:10.708
Inside so he can flow something through you.
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>> i mean, we're in a culture that i mean, if we're being
00:33:13.644 --> 00:33:16.681
Honest, we we just want an amazon prime sanctification.
00:33:16.681 --> 00:33:19.717
>> there it.
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>> is. and calling and you can't.
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>> there is no shortcut.
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>> no. but i mean, but we live in a world where everything is
00:33:23.921 --> 00:33:27.592
A click away. we we live in instant gratification. dopamine
00:33:27.592 --> 00:33:31.829
Is on a consistent drip through our screens, like there is
00:33:31.829 --> 00:33:38.803
Immediate gratification for everything. not healthy
00:33:38.803 --> 00:33:43.041
Gratification, right? not healthy fruits of the spirit.
00:33:43.041 --> 00:33:45.877
But you can get just about any fix that you want immediately.
00:33:45.877 --> 00:33:50.715
And again, sometimes we're so committed to the instantaneous
00:33:50.715 --> 00:33:56.387
Nature of things that we forget that calling a season slowly.
00:33:56.387 --> 00:34:01.526
Yeah, and you can't rush what god is doing. god won't be
00:34:01.526 --> 00:34:06.297
Rushed.
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>> right?
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>> and we're trying to prove we're always in a panic and
00:34:08.132 --> 00:34:12.003
We're trying to rush. we're always going to feel manic
00:34:12.003 --> 00:34:15.740
Because we're always trying to get to the next thing. we don't
00:34:15.740 --> 00:34:19.844
Even enjoy what we currently have, and we get so committed.
00:34:19.844 --> 00:34:22.613
Like, what's so interesting to me is we will get we will get
00:34:22.613 --> 00:34:27.785
So frustrated by the calling in and of itself. god, god, if you
00:34:27.785 --> 00:34:32.523
Would just solve this in the way that he's like, i called
00:34:32.523 --> 00:34:35.560
You to this, right? and now you're impatient because it's
00:34:35.560 --> 00:34:40.398
Not happening in the exact way that you thought that it would.
00:34:40.398 --> 00:34:45.103
I get to have conversation with so many people that they're
00:34:45.103 --> 00:34:49.240
Frustrated in their marriages, they're frustrated with their
00:34:49.240 --> 00:34:50.675
Kids. they're frustrated in the businesses that they've started.
00:34:50.675 --> 00:34:54.479
It's like, don't you remember when this is what you prayed
00:34:54.479 --> 00:34:58.082
For? and now, because you have constant comparison of what
00:34:58.082 --> 00:35:01.719
Everybody else is doing through internet and social media and,
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.723
You know, the constant trap of comparison now, because yours
00:35:05.723 --> 00:35:09.760
Doesn't look like this now we're frustrated, or now
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:12.630
Because it doesn't move as fast as you think this person does
00:35:12.630 --> 00:35:15.867
Because that's what they share. front facing again, desperate
00:35:15.867 --> 00:35:18.870
To be known. but we'll just settle for being seen like we
00:35:18.870 --> 00:35:25.276
Rob ourselves of the beauty of what god's doing in the moment.
00:35:25.276 --> 00:35:29.747
Yeah, i'm a firm believer that so many of us are not as
00:35:29.747 --> 00:35:34.418
Disconnected as we might think. we're not as separate as we
00:35:34.418 --> 00:35:37.722
Might think. if we could just quiet the noise, turn off our
00:35:37.722 --> 00:35:41.859
Devices for a little bit, you can jump in. my old 95. come on,
00:35:41.859 --> 00:35:47.732
F250, and we'll put some extra poles in the back and let's
00:35:47.732 --> 00:35:50.902
Just go to a pond. let's sit around and have some
00:35:50.902 --> 00:35:54.539
Conversation about our grandmothers, because we've all
00:35:54.539 --> 00:35:56.407
Got them.
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>> yeah.
00:35:56.741 --> 00:35:57.975
>> and i bet we've got a whole lot more in common. and i bet
00:35:57.975 --> 00:36:02.013
If we would just sit with a line in the water for a while,
00:36:02.013 --> 00:36:05.750
That might be the very thing that we avoid the most is
00:36:05.750 --> 00:36:10.321
Silence. wow. that quiet stillness. and it's not. i
00:36:10.321 --> 00:36:14.759
Believe that it's more. not that we're afraid that we're
00:36:14.759 --> 00:36:20.464
Not going to hear from god. i think we're afraid that we
00:36:20.464 --> 00:36:24.569
Actually will.
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>> wow.
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>> and who that's going to commit us to becoming, what
00:36:26.737 --> 00:36:30.641
Parts of our egos we're going to have to lay down, what fears
00:36:30.641 --> 00:36:33.644
We're going to have to not commit to, what we're going to
00:36:33.644 --> 00:36:37.415
Have to resolve that we don't actually deserve. because so
00:36:37.415 --> 00:36:40.851
Many of us, we we just create constant noise and we continue
00:36:40.851 --> 00:36:45.189
Moving. and especially in the pullback when you're just
00:36:45.189 --> 00:36:48.793
Trying to solve everything all the time. god's saying, maybe
00:36:48.793 --> 00:36:54.699
Just spend some time with me, maybe just chill out for a
00:36:54.699 --> 00:37:01.072
Second. there is work being done in you, but you can't see
00:37:01.072 --> 00:37:06.143
It because you're blinded by excuses. you're blinded by
00:37:06.143 --> 00:37:09.647
Making it everyone else's fault. you're blinded by cursing the
00:37:09.647 --> 00:37:15.553
If you're not careful, that calling will become a curse
00:37:15.553 --> 00:37:18.522
Real quick. wow. when you get committed to your own voice
00:37:18.522 --> 00:37:22.493
Instead of god's.
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>> yeah.
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>> your grandma in tulsa? yeah. wants you to pray for the
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Audience.
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>> right now.
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>> she's praying that you're going to pray for her.
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>> to jesus.
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>> you're going to you're going to you're going to to pray that
00:37:35.973 --> 00:37:41.479
This conversation is a seed that will go deep within the
00:37:41.479 --> 00:37:49.420
Souls of, of our audience, and that just pray for the people
00:37:49.420 --> 00:37:53.891
That that what we're discussing, yeah, becomes real. it becomes
00:37:53.891 --> 00:37:58.896
Alive in them that this counterintuitive. yeah way that
00:37:58.896 --> 00:38:06.137
The kingdom really is, is, is is real and necessary. there's
00:38:06.137 --> 00:38:10.641
Your camera. back off that way.
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>> do what you want.
00:38:11.609 --> 00:38:13.577
>> where is my camera? i want to speak to you, and i want to
00:38:13.577 --> 00:38:16.580
Pray over you if you would allow me to. you don't have to
00:38:16.580 --> 00:38:20.718
Ask a charismatic to pray twice. and so i'm going to lean my
00:38:20.718 --> 00:38:23.788
Hand towards you. if you're comfortable, you can lean your
00:38:23.788 --> 00:38:26.590
Hand towards me, and if not, you can just open those and
00:38:26.590 --> 00:38:29.827
Surrender. lord, i want to pray for my friends watching this
00:38:29.827 --> 00:38:32.830
Program right now. it is no accident that you have called
00:38:32.830 --> 00:38:35.733
Them here on purpose and for purpose, to hear a message that
00:38:35.733 --> 00:38:39.403
Was for them today, for the one who feels like they've been
00:38:39.403 --> 00:38:43.641
Forgotten, for the one who feels like they've been in this
00:38:43.641 --> 00:38:46.744
Trap of performance, feeling like they consistently need to
00:38:46.744 --> 00:38:49.580
Prove their worth to you, i pray that you would surround
00:38:49.580 --> 00:38:52.717
Them like a shield. i pray that your peace would fall on them,
00:38:52.717 --> 00:38:55.853
And that your grace would empower them to recognize that
00:38:55.853 --> 00:38:58.622
They've always been enough and they will always be enough, not
00:38:58.622 --> 00:39:01.559
By anything that they could do in and of themselves, but
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.730
Through the finished work of your son, jesus christ. and so
00:39:05.730 --> 00:39:09.667
We give you thanks, that by his blood we are saved, and we give
00:39:09.667 --> 00:39:13.738
You thanks, that you have had a plan this entire time. and i
00:39:13.738 --> 00:39:17.708
Pray for those who might feel that life is just incredibly
00:39:17.708 --> 00:39:22.213
Overwhelming. you feel like you're doing the right things,
00:39:22.213 --> 00:39:24.682
You feel like you're trying to move things forward and you
00:39:24.682 --> 00:39:28.119
Keep getting knocked back. i pray that the god of peace
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.289
Would visit you, and i pray that he would cover you.
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>> thank you.
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>> and i pray that you would recognize that you have been
00:39:37.061 --> 00:39:39.797
Chosen. god does not create mistakes. god. god does not
00:39:39.797 --> 00:39:44.635
Call you to cancel you. wow did everything that he has called
00:39:44.635 --> 00:39:48.806
In you. he will see through.
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>> yes.
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>> that as you continue to again accept that the pullback
00:39:51.709 --> 00:39:54.945
Is preparation, you are not being punished. god is not
00:39:54.945 --> 00:39:58.783
Against you. god is for you. he has always been for you. he
00:39:58.783 --> 00:40:02.620
Sent his son for you. and in that act of surrender, and in
00:40:02.620 --> 00:40:06.857
That act of obedience, you were made whole.
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>> thank you.
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>> and so it is time for you to rest inside of this season of
00:40:11.395 --> 00:40:15.699
Preparation, to see it for what it is, to recognize that there
00:40:15.699 --> 00:40:20.604
Is a season that is coming, that is far beyond anything
00:40:20.604 --> 00:40:24.008
That you could imagine right now.
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>> thank you lord.
00:40:25.676 --> 00:40:26.844
>> if you will step into his presence, which means we get
00:40:26.844 --> 00:40:30.748
Quiet and we find the quiet places. it wasn't in the loud
00:40:30.748 --> 00:40:34.752
Worship services that jesus would retreat. it was in the
00:40:34.752 --> 00:40:38.556
Quiet places to pray. and so, as you seek him, his promise to
00:40:38.556 --> 00:40:43.928
Us is that if we seek, we will find. and so i pray the more
00:40:43.928 --> 00:40:48.666
That you seek him, the more clarity that you will find, the
00:40:48.666 --> 00:40:52.002
More discernment that will be laid upon you. i pray that god
00:40:52.002 --> 00:40:56.607
Will open doors that no man can close, and they will be opened
00:40:56.607 --> 00:41:00.244
At a divine time. when your character can handle what
00:41:00.244 --> 00:41:03.514
You've been called to. so many times we have to remember that
00:41:03.514 --> 00:41:08.586
God is pulling us back, not out of punishment, because we're
00:41:08.586 --> 00:41:12.456
Just not ready yet. and so he's actually the pullback is
00:41:12.456 --> 00:41:17.127
Actually protection. so i pray that you would receive that
00:41:17.127 --> 00:41:20.364
Right now you're actually being protected. you're not being
00:41:20.364 --> 00:41:23.567
Rejected. you're being redirected. and god is
00:41:23.567 --> 00:41:27.972
Redirecting your steps. and he is anointing you to do far
00:41:27.972 --> 00:41:30.574
Greater things than you could ever imagine. and i give thanks
00:41:30.574 --> 00:41:34.378
That you're here. i want you to recognize that your pain is not
00:41:34.378 --> 00:41:37.781
Forgotten, that the frustration that you feel is real. it is
00:41:37.781 --> 00:41:41.952
Valid. and in the midst of it there is hope.
00:41:41.952 --> 00:41:47.057
>> thank you lord.
00:41:47.057 --> 00:41:48.158
>> and there is grace, and there is peace. and that means
00:41:48.259 --> 00:41:51.695
That god will do what god does. and it is our responsibility to
00:41:51.695 --> 00:41:54.632
Get out of our own way, get out of our own noise, get out of
00:41:54.632 --> 00:41:58.502
Our own stories. to seek the heart of the father, to
00:41:58.502 --> 00:42:01.438
Recognize that there is more to you than what you feel you've
00:42:01.438 --> 00:42:04.808
Deserved up to this point. there is more to you than what
00:42:04.808 --> 00:42:07.678
Has happened to you. there is more to you than what you've
00:42:07.678 --> 00:42:10.614
Experienced at this point that god can use all of it if you
00:42:10.614 --> 00:42:13.817
Will allow him. and so i give you.
00:42:13.817 --> 00:42:15.719
>> thanks, lord, for.
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>> my friends. i give you thanks for those who are
00:42:16.887 --> 00:42:19.590
Watching. i pray that you will bless them and keep them. i
00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:22.793
Pray that you would make your face to shine upon them and be
00:42:22.793 --> 00:42:25.729
Gracious to them. i pray that you would turn your face toward
00:42:25.729 --> 00:42:28.699
Them and give them peace. thank you lord.
00:42:28.699 --> 00:42:30.968
>> you know, i love something that you said a while ago. you
00:42:30.968 --> 00:42:35.139
Said, sometimes we curse the very thing.
00:42:35.139 --> 00:42:36.006
>> wow.
00:42:36.006 --> 00:42:37.141
>> and i think that a lot of people think that that time of
00:42:37.241 --> 00:42:39.810
Pullback, that quiet time, that silence time, that time where
00:42:39.810 --> 00:42:43.547
You feel abandoned. we start cursing it, cursing warfaring
00:42:43.547 --> 00:42:52.456
Against the very thing that god is trying to do. instead of
00:42:52.456 --> 00:42:57.628
Having peace in the valley. yeah. instead of in instead of,
00:42:57.628 --> 00:43:02.700
You know, pastor gary called us the other day. he said, let the
00:43:02.700 --> 00:43:06.670
Wind blow. let it blow. he said, have peace. he said the same
00:43:06.670 --> 00:43:12.443
Wind that parted the waters for the children of israel is the
00:43:12.443 --> 00:43:16.747
Same wind that blew to kill the enemies. let it blow. there's
00:43:16.747 --> 00:43:19.717
No harm to you. yeah. you know, and so i think that that we
00:43:19.717 --> 00:43:25.656
Need to just stop for a minute. because if god, i'm always. i'm
00:43:25.656 --> 00:43:29.827
Always saying, i feel like this conversation. i feel like i
00:43:29.827 --> 00:43:32.696
Could talk to you all day. let's put it that way. we could
00:43:32.696 --> 00:43:36.967
Sit here and talk all day. about if i truly believe that
00:43:36.967 --> 00:43:40.437
God is in control of my life. yeah. there is nothing that can
00:43:40.437 --> 00:43:45.576
Touch you. there is nothing that can happen to you outside
00:43:45.576 --> 00:43:50.481
Of god's true will and his purpose for my life. so what am
00:43:50.481 --> 00:43:54.418
I worried about?
00:43:54.418 --> 00:43:56.954
>> yeah. and recognize. do you really want that? again, we can
00:43:56.954 --> 00:44:01.759
Say that we want a lot of things. we can say, oh, i want
00:44:01.759 --> 00:44:05.996
That peace i want. do you, do you? because recognize it means
00:44:05.996 --> 00:44:09.566
You're going to have to let go of a lot of old stories.
00:44:09.566 --> 00:44:12.603
>> it's like freedom.
00:44:12.603 --> 00:44:13.871
>> and for so many, we're we're so accustomed to hanging on to
00:44:13.871 --> 00:44:16.473
What's always been true for us. yeah. that in some ways, it can
00:44:16.473 --> 00:44:20.244
Feel like we're abandoning that part of ourselves.
00:44:20.244 --> 00:44:21.879
>> our old identities.
00:44:21.879 --> 00:44:23.047
>> yeah. because even though it's not what i really want,
00:44:23.047 --> 00:44:26.517
It's what's so familiar to me. which is why we keep ourselves
00:44:26.517 --> 00:44:30.621
In perpetual patterns of of dysregulation and unhealth.
00:44:30.621 --> 00:44:34.425
Because it's not what i want, but actually it is because it's
00:44:34.425 --> 00:44:39.897
What's most familiar. and i don't actually know what peace
00:44:39.897 --> 00:44:44.501
Would feel like. i don't actually know who i would have
00:44:44.501 --> 00:44:47.938
To become and what that's going to separate me from, or who
00:44:47.938 --> 00:44:51.809
That's going to separate me from. wow. and so even though
00:44:51.809 --> 00:44:55.679
It's i, it may not be god's best for me. it's familiar. and
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.650
I don't have to leave those people. i don't have to leave
00:44:59.650 --> 00:45:02.953
Those beliefs. i don't have to leave that circumstance. and so
00:45:02.953 --> 00:45:07.558
We end up maybe that's what maybe that's what god planned
00:45:07.558 --> 00:45:10.728
For me all along. it's easier. it's easier.
00:45:10.728 --> 00:45:13.697
>> yeah.
00:45:13.697 --> 00:45:14.965
>> i would encourage you to get connected to kody jefferson's
00:45:14.965 --> 00:45:18.702
Content. all the information's on the screen.
00:45:18.702 --> 00:45:20.838
>> he makes me cry.
00:45:20.838 --> 00:45:22.673
>> and lori was reading. one of your posts on the way.
00:45:22.673 --> 00:45:26.577
>> to the.
00:45:26.577 --> 00:45:27.778
>> studio today, and by the time we got here, she was in
00:45:27.778 --> 00:45:30.681
Tears and had to redo her makeup and the.
00:45:30.681 --> 00:45:32.883
>> whole thing.
00:45:32.883 --> 00:45:34.118
>> and we at tbn, i want to give you the final word. so i'm
00:45:34.118 --> 00:45:37.454
Going to just say one quick thing and then and then i
00:45:37.454 --> 00:45:40.624
Always want you to just give kind of the final thought. land
00:45:40.624 --> 00:45:43.894
The plane kind of thing. but there was a season at tbn when
00:45:43.894 --> 00:45:47.598
Tbn went through a pullback. you know, you think of the
00:45:47.598 --> 00:45:51.502
Archer and the the arrow goes back and tbn got dropped off
00:45:51.502 --> 00:45:55.439
Cable through this weird set of circumstances called muscari.
00:45:55.439 --> 00:46:00.511
And and my dad was. warfaring against the cable industry. he
00:46:00.511 --> 00:46:12.689
Was very quick to say that the devil is influencing the cable
00:46:12.689 --> 00:46:18.462
Systems, that tbn is now not required to be carried there,
00:46:18.462 --> 00:46:21.832
And it was a mess. okay. it was just my dad would say, we don't
00:46:21.832 --> 00:46:25.736
Even partners. we don't even have a full power station
00:46:25.736 --> 00:46:28.539
Anymore. we're only half powered. only half of the
00:46:28.539 --> 00:46:31.475
Community is able to see. and there was this ten year season
00:46:31.475 --> 00:46:35.379
In the 80s and the early 90s where my dad was continuing to
00:46:35.379 --> 00:46:41.518
Soldier on to do what god called him to do. but heavy.
00:46:41.518 --> 00:46:45.455
Always fighting. it was a it was a battle. every day was a
00:46:45.455 --> 00:46:50.460
Battle. and what my dad didn't know is that season was going
00:46:50.460 --> 00:46:55.699
To come to an end. and during that season, tv stations were
00:46:55.699 --> 00:47:00.103
Basically $0.10 on a dollar.
00:47:00.103 --> 00:47:03.340
>> wow.
00:47:03.340 --> 00:47:04.474
>> if my dad at that time had this revelation, if he would
00:47:04.575 --> 00:47:12.482
Have stopped yelling at the devil, he might have heard a
00:47:12.482 --> 00:47:15.485
Still small voice saying, paul, this is only a ten year window.
00:47:15.485 --> 00:47:21.825
Get after it. go buy them all.
00:47:21.825 --> 00:47:24.361
>> go get em all.
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>> go get em! and again we we partners. we did. we. you know,
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We ended up with 40 something full power tv stations. today
00:47:31.969 --> 00:47:34.571
We're at 65. we we we we really advance the kingdom. but but my
00:47:34.571 --> 00:47:40.677
Dad was gutting out that ten year season and he could have
00:47:40.677 --> 00:47:44.681
He could have woke up every day fired up. where's another one
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We can get? where's another deal? we can get done. and so i
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Say it this way. the worst day in my dad's tbn corporate
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History was his greatest opportunity. and he didn't see
00:47:57.961 --> 00:48:03.600
It till he saw it in the rear view mirror. and it was over.
00:48:03.600 --> 00:48:07.004
And, man.
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>> he fought his way through.
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>> he didn't rest his way. the the productivity of rest. he
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Could have.
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>> just flown through that season more aggressively
00:48:16.113 --> 00:48:20.884
Energized, knowing that this was an opportunity. but to
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Every fiber of his being and everybody else, it looked like
00:48:24.554 --> 00:48:28.825
A complete pullback. it was a mistake. it was a man. paul,
00:48:28.825 --> 00:48:32.362
You bet on broadcast stations. you should have been betting on
00:48:32.362 --> 00:48:35.799
Cable. they're winning you know. and so there was this horrible
00:48:35.799 --> 00:48:40.837
Season that really was the greatest opportunity. we see it
00:48:40.837 --> 00:48:44.608
Clearly as we look in the rear view mirror. how many people's
00:48:44.608 --> 00:48:47.978
Lives are in a season where you do not see any possible way
00:48:47.978 --> 00:48:53.617
That this is a god thing? in my life? my dad couldn't have said,
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This is a god thing because half of a community wasn't
00:48:59.122 --> 00:49:01.825
Hearing about jesus right then. well, that little oak tree was
00:49:01.825 --> 00:49:06.096
Growing. yeah. and it was going to.
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>> grow up that held its ground. yeah.
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>> and and doggone it, you know, we look back on that season, we
00:49:11.635 --> 00:49:14.805
See it as clear as a bell. it preaches real good. it sets it.
00:49:14.805 --> 00:49:18.575
It fits inside of what we're talking about. but man, at the
00:49:18.575 --> 00:49:21.445
Time, you couldn't have gotten anybody to agree that that was
00:49:21.445 --> 00:49:25.115
God doing something. and god will do some things that you
00:49:25.115 --> 00:49:27.617
Completely do not understand at the time. things will not work
00:49:27.617 --> 00:49:32.522
Out. you'll have great plans and they do not work out. and
00:49:32.522 --> 00:49:36.460
They hit the you know.
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>> but god has a plan.
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>> god's doing something and he's growing something. and and
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We're going to choose.
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>> yeah.
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>> that we are going to fly through these seasons. we're
00:49:46.636 --> 00:49:49.506
Just i'm just going to do it.
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>> come on. kody.
00:49:52.009 --> 00:49:53.176
>> yeah. final thoughts on flying through the season that
00:49:53.176 --> 00:49:55.746
You think you have to trudge through?
00:49:55.746 --> 00:49:58.415
>> yeah. great story, by the way. that is an incredible.
00:49:58.415 --> 00:50:03.453
What an incredible testimony. even in the midst of fighting
00:50:03.453 --> 00:50:06.890
Through it, the foresight to continue buying.
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>> yeah.
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>> is very, very interesting. and you know what i would say
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To anyone of you that are watching today and to to us as
00:50:13.697 --> 00:50:17.934
Well. god's in the middle of it.
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>> there you go.
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>> god hasn't forgotten you. and it's so easy for us when
00:50:25.842 --> 00:50:30.380
Things get frustrating or when we feel out of control to
00:50:30.380 --> 00:50:34.151
Continually ask, why is this happening to me? and so then we
00:50:34.151 --> 00:50:38.422
Try to fight our way through it. and sure, there can be seasons
00:50:38.422 --> 00:50:42.826
Where we're in a in a push season, but what could happen
00:50:42.826 --> 00:50:46.730
If you were to take a step back, hands open, and just to simply
00:50:46.730 --> 00:50:52.469
Say. i do not know what's going on right now. and that takes a
00:50:52.469 --> 00:50:58.542
Lot of humility, i don't know. and i think i've always been
00:50:58.542 --> 00:51:01.611
Really good at having an answer. i think i've always really been
00:51:01.611 --> 00:51:04.848
Good at being able to solve problems. and i've really i've
00:51:04.848 --> 00:51:07.851
Been i've had a really simple time of being able to get
00:51:07.851 --> 00:51:10.587
Myself out of sticky situations. and right now this doesn't make
00:51:10.587 --> 00:51:14.558
Sense. instead of blaming god, what if we were to take a step
00:51:14.558 --> 00:51:19.396
Back and say, what are you doing right now? what are you
00:51:19.396 --> 00:51:23.266
Seasoning in me? what needs to die in me to become the version
00:51:23.266 --> 00:51:28.438
Of me that can handle the calling? that you're pursuing
00:51:28.438 --> 00:51:33.977
My heart for. to carry. what are you teaching me right now?
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And as we start to lay that down, i want to remind you that
00:51:39.583 --> 00:51:43.687
You're not too far gone. you know, part of the ways that we
00:51:43.687 --> 00:51:47.591
Pull back is sometimes we feel like maybe we're too old. we're
00:51:47.591 --> 00:51:50.894
Too discounted. we've. we've gone too far. we've done too
00:51:50.894 --> 00:51:53.897
Many things. we haven't taken action enough. we've said no
00:51:53.897 --> 00:51:56.600
Too many times. we've created our own safety net. too many
00:51:56.600 --> 00:52:00.003
Times that, like god's just done. god's not done until
00:52:00.003 --> 00:52:02.072
God's done. amen. and so sometimes we create our own
00:52:02.072 --> 00:52:06.176
Pullback. when god is saying, i've been ready to send you for
00:52:06.176 --> 00:52:11.615
A while now, stop trying to hold on to the back of this bow
00:52:11.615 --> 00:52:16.686
And just let go. so that's what i would say.
00:52:16.686 --> 00:52:21.158
>> yeah. beautiful.
00:52:21.158 --> 00:52:22.225
>> and your proof that you can't have too many tattoos.
00:52:22.325 --> 00:52:25.695
Listen. not nearly enough.
00:52:25.695 --> 00:52:26.897
>> i'm proof that. yeah. and that's, you know, i can fit in
00:52:26.897 --> 00:52:31.768
Most overhead compartments as well. so here we are.
00:52:31.768 --> 00:52:35.105
>> find cody's content. it's all over social media. get
00:52:35.105 --> 00:52:38.708
Connected to it. cody. thank you brother. thank you cody.
00:52:38.708 --> 00:52:42.212
The divine pullback. let's get ready to go.
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>> amen.
00:52:45.115 --> 00:52:47.250
>> great.
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>> beautiful.
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>> beautiful.
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:59.629

Cody Jefferson: You Were Made For More | Praise

September 30, 2025 | 53:43

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