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October 14, 2025 | 53:12

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Praise | David Green & Bill High: The Legacy Life | Praise | October 14, 2025

Coming up tonight on praise...
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And that's my purpose.
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My purpose is to buy and sell merchandise and take the profit
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And tell people about jesus.
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We all have a purpose.
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It goes back to that is my purpose and i think god
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Anoints me to doing what i do.
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I think when we're asking for his help, no matter what we're
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Doing, i think he will help you and anoint you of
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Doing what you're doing.
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But it's a means to an end.
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The end is telling people about jesus.
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So that's what we hope to do.
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Tonight on praise from dallas,
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Hobby lobby founder and ceo david green.
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And author bill high.
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♪♪
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And now your hosts, matt and laurie crouch.
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Welcome to praise. our guests today,
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David green, bill high.
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And david, you're kind of synonymous for this little
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Store chain thing that some people have heard of called
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Hobby lobby, right?
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Whenever you write a book, you always have a word legacy.
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You have all of those types of things and all of that.
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But i think i found a secret about you inside your own book.
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Okay, okay.
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On page 46 of the legacy life.
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And by the way, i bet you this is available at hobby lobby.
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You can get it at hobby lobby.
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I was wondering. it's there. yes.
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Wondering if it would be available there.
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And it is.
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But a secret about david green
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Is that he thinks generationally.
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Okay, but there's this part in page 46 and 47 that i think is
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Even the deeper part of who you are, david.
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And it says you're going to, you're basically talking about
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As we follow the succeeding generations, we see god at work
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In the lives of isaac, jacob, judah, joseph, moses, joshua,
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Samuel, david, solomon, rehoboam.
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Well, you get the idea.
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God put in motion one story,
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And it's the story of redemption.
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What i think you're about is this legacy, but about the one
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Story, and that's jesus christ on earth today, and how many
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People we can get to follow him while we're alive on earth.
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I think that's the true reason that you sell things
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Kind of like this.
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You could probably buy
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Something like this at hobby lobby.
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There's a good chance we might have bought some of this stuff
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At hobby lobby. and jesus is
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The reason for why you do what you do.
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But you're a retailer and you sell us stuff.
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That's interesting.
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Yes. i think that what we think our family, hopefully not
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Myself, but my kids and my kids, kids and i've got great,
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Great grandkids now, 21 of them and counting.
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That's always counting.
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I think we all see things as purpose.
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We all have a purpose.
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And i think that's a key word in our life is god has not has
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Given every one of us, not just
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The evangelist, the pastor, etc.
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But every single one of us have a purpose.
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And i think it's important for us to know we have a legacy, no
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Matter who we are, where we are.
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My mother and dad just ran small churches, the pastors of
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Small churches, but they have a legacy and their children
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And their children's children.
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So it's important for us to have a legacy, and that is,
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What is our purpose?
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We all have a purpose, and we want to fulfill that purpose.
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And that is to tell as many people about jesus
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As we possibly can.
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And i love your definition in this book of the word legacy.
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Give me your definition of legacy.
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You know, legacy goes beyond this life.
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It goes further than this life.
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I think the greatest thing in our legacy is our children and
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Our children's children.
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There's 50 of us now.
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Barbara and i started in '61.
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We got married and we've been
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Married almost-- another week or two,
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We're going to be 65 years.
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So we want a legacy, and our legacy is going to be our
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Children and what they do for
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The lord and our children's children.
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So i think that's the biggest part of our legacy is our
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Children first.
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And then also, what can we do to tell as many people about
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Jesus as we possibly can?
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And that's what we want to do at hobby lobby.
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We want to take what god has given us,
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Give it back to him because it's not ours anyway.
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The bible says he owns
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Everything, so we're only stewards
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Not because we say so, because god's word says so.
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Bill, in the book, though, there is an actual
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Definition which i love,
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Something that-- i'm going to paraphrase it.
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Then you give me the actual quote.
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It's something like not what you do, but what you cause to
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Happen after you're gone. something in that regard.
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You got it, matt.
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The idea that you hear in the world is legacy is
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What you leave behind.
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And we say that it's legacy is what you set in motion.
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There it is.
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Because we're all looking forward to that day in heaven
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Where the grand reunion takes place.
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And that's what we're looking forward to. you know,
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And in that definition is a sense of humility that, you
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Know, a lot of times, you see people say, i built this, i
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Built that, i built the other thing.
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I grew up in a family, you know, david, that, you know,
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My mom and dad sat here.
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If you wound the clock back 30 years, you know, paul and jan
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Would have been sitting here and you would have had five
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Stores and you would have been
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Sitting there talking about jesus.
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And now we're here in 2025
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And approaching the christmas season.
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So do you have your christmas stuff out?
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No, we put it out in almost july, and we tell people that's
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Because it takes us a long time.
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We just-- i mean, it just takes us a long time.
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I'm sorry. we get started early.
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Don't ask me how i know his christmas stuff is out.
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Oh, my gosh, it's-- so, so,
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I don't know when this is airing.
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We're shooting this in early october and so it's full blown.
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It's out, 2025 season at hobby lobby for christmas.
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It's all sparkles and glitter.
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It is. yeah. all right.
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And you get that sparkle on, you can't get it off.
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Yeah, i actually come out looking like a christmas tree.
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You take a shower, it sticks. but you know what?
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I love you for what you do.
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I love you that you, that you make it affordable so anyone
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Can have something beautiful.
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I have a friend named randy altig.
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He's helping us with, um, a shroud.
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The shroud documentary.
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Documentary? but he's a designer, too.
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And so back a little bit before
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Easter this year
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This year, he sends me this little video that he did, and
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He just does these beautiful
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Table displays that are just so--
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He's constantly feeding me pictures of, look what i made
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My mom today, or look what i did for the thanksgiving table
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And all of this.
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And so he sent me this little thing of all this stuff
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From hobby lobby.
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Well-- what did you do, dear?
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I just get in my car and i go down. south lake.
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And i went three times, and i'm--
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I loaded up on the beautiful things of easter because it's
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Crosses and it's beautiful.
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Beautiful easter things, you know.
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And and i did my display.
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And it was beautiful.
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And i think i have cell phone video.
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So i'm going to prove with the cell phone video that you made
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A hobby lobby thing.
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Randy designed it.
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Randy talked you through it.
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Yeah. you went to --
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I just said-- i'm sorry.
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You could have said michaels. that would have been worse.
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We'll edit that. you know, bleep it
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Like i said, a bad word.
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That would actually be funny.
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Matt must have said a-- yeah i did.
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So you went to a hobby lobby and you got the stuff and you,
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You made it and it was sitting on the table.
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I took video of it.
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And it was so cute.
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But so i love when anyone can really go in
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There and buy something beautiful.
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Reminds them of of the lord, you know, and
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What it's all about.
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And i thank you for doing that.
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And i love your 50% off prices, too.
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We love that, too.
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And so the christmas stuff is out and it's beautiful.
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50 all day long.
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And we're-- yeah, we're doing good.
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You're doing good. you know what? keep going.
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What's so fun, bill, is, you know, you can be talking about
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A subject, um, and you can be going along.
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And david green is sitting there kind of looking at you,
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And he's always kind and everything, but you start
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Talking about his products and the things that he cares about,
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Because deep down, you find your fulfillment in getting
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Quality things to people at a quality and a price that they
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Can afford. that that really makes you go, doesn't it?
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No, it does. and that's my purpose.
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My purpose is to buy and sell merchandise and take the profit
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And tell people about jesus.
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We all have a purpose.
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It goes back to that is my purpose.
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And i think god anoints me of doing what i do.
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I think when we're asking for his help,
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No matter what we're doing, i think he will help you
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And anoint you of doing what you're doing.
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But it's a means to an end.
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The end is telling people about jesus, so that's what
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We hope to do. you've done that so well.
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Uh, a little bit ago we were at a -- a little bit ago--
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Bleep it again.
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That's just going to be the running joke.
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A little bit ago we went to a hobby lobby with david green
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And bill high. watch this.
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Today on praise from store 256 founder of hobby lobby david
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Green and bill high right here, right now.
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Kind of like your living room.
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At some point you've been in stores like this.
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You're the merchandizing guy.
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How many items can i buy in this store today?
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Right now there's about 80,000.
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We like to say that we have 12 stores under one roof.
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If we can run one store a thousand times, which we're
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Going to open our 1,000th store, then we're good.
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And every store is exact.
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Do you know what this one says? no i don't.
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Mermaids have more fun. well, that's-- i guess.
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What do you call this merchandise?
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Yes, i would call gifts. we're not afraid of the gospel.
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And so you'll see a lot of crosses in here and a lot of
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Things about christ.
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Okay. legacy life.
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Um, founder and ceo of hobby lobby.
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Nobody, uh, viewing this
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Show needs to know what hobby lobby is.
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Everyone knows what hobby lobby is.
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We've all been there. okay, how many stores now?
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About 1050.
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So we're in all 48 states.
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And so that's where we are.
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We add about 40 stores a year.
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40 stores about one a week, or a little less than one a week.
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Let's get into the legacy life.
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If you were telling our audience what you hope they're
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Going to experience and take away from investing in this
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200 some-odd page book, what do
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You want our audience to get out of this?
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I think all of us want a legacy, something that beyond
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Our time here on earth, i think we all want that, and i think
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We're going to find it in our purpose.
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God has given every one of us a purpose.
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He did not create us just to be here and be consumers.
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He built us for a purpose and we want to find that purpose.
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Hobby lobby, my family,
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We want to find that purpose.
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And i know what it is.
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And for all of us, some way, indirectly or directly, to tell
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More people about christ and bring more people to know him.
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And we think that's very important in our family, too.
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I think one of the most important things to do is have
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A marriage that god would be pleased with and have
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Children that serve the lord, and that's what we want.
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And we have our children that serve the lord, our
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Grandchildren, our great grandchildren, and hopefully
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Our great great grandchildren.
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So that's what we would like to do in our legacy, as well is do
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Everything we can to tell as many people about christ in
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Different, in different formats that we possibly can.
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Yeah. bill, you're part of this.
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The same question to you?
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Yeah, i would say that this is really a reset on the
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Theology of family. that's how i look at it.
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So it's a bigger, deeper purpose.
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And that's really chapter three of the book, because chapter
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Three is about the fact that our god is a generational god.
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He thinks and he plans for generations.
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He told abraham 400 years later, what was going to happen
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And how they were going to come back in the fourth generation,
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Because at that time, generations were 100 years.
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And so that's how he looks at our lives.
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He looks at our lives from a generational perspective.
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In america, we tend to raise up our kids and kick them out and
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Say, go do your own thing.
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But you guys are living this too, the idea of how do we
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As a family stick together as a team?
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And that's a big reset for us here in america in particular.
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So that's a big idea.
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How do we think and plan generationally?
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Over the years,
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You started in 1972, and i know that god never calls us in our
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Purpose and our destiny without us having to use our faith.
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So they look at you now, mr. green, and they say, man, hobby
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Lobby, um, the bible museum, all the all the ministry things
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That you all have done and have invested in is worldwide and--
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World known.
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And is amazing. and but how--
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Tell me a story or two where it took faith to step out and
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Where god has met you there? because he never calls us
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To do something without him.
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Yeah, i think that sometimes i talk about pivotal moments in
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My life, and that was a pivotal moment when i know i'm called
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To be a retailer.
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Now people hear about being called to preach and be an
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Evangelist, but i've been called to be a retailer.
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And it took a lot of faith in my part to get to where i knew
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That i knew that i knew because i'm a preacher's son, and we
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Got five brothers and sisters
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And they're pastors and pastor's wives.
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And then there's me out here making money at retail, and
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That didn't look too good.
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And it didn't feel real good.
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What's wrong with me? my goodness.
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But i went to a huge convention one time, and they were
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Receiving money to give to distribute the gospel to
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Different people in different
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Countries, which is very, very important.
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And i don't know what i gave maybe $5, $10, i don't know.
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But on the way back home from this convention on the plane,
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The lord spoke to me and said, you need to give $30,000.
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And i didn't have $30,000.
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And i said, but i could have said, it can't be because
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I don't have the money.
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But i knew that i knew that i knew that
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The lord says, you need to give $30,000.
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So we went back home. we prayed about it.
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My wife and i talked about it, and i said, you know what
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I think we can do?
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I think we can write four checks a month apart, $7,500
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Apiece. so we sent those four checks in, 7500,
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And we found out today that it was post mail.
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There was four individuals
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From overseas that needed literature that had been
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Praying because they didn't have enough money for them.
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It was that day that i knew i was called to be a retailer.
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And i'm also not just called to be a retailer.
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I can be anointed to be a retailer.
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So when i'm walking with god every day, asking him for
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Help and asking him for guidance, i know he guides me
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And i know he anoints me just like my father or my brothers
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In the pulpit.
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So i know i'm anointed retailer.
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And that's what god's purpose is for me.
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And i have no question about what i'm supposed to be doing.
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Has it always been easy?
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No, it's been very difficult.
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So we have a lot of difficult times. just recently,
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Covid was very difficult.
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All of our stores are closed and we have always
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Operated with no debt.
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Hobby lobby has no debt.
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We borrow money for a short period of time to buy
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Christmas and then we pay it in december.
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But there's been a lot of hard times that we've had and like,
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I'm sure you have had hard
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Times, but we've just walked it anyway.
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And god has brought us through very difficult times.
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It feels like i would trade my hard times for your hard times,
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But you know, on face value.
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But let's let's not go there.
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Uh, the, the, um, the thing that you just talked about, i
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Think is a vital point to me.
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You just kind of lit me up.
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I feel that in one sense, you're talking about legacy and
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You're talking about generational blessing.
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You're talking about, you know, it's not what i do, but what i
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Cause to happen even after me.
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And there's this really long term thinking.
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I grew up in short term thinking.
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And there's, you know, just a lot of different reasons that
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My parents were in this kind of the lord's coming back tomorrow
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Kind of mode.
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Uh, and tbn was was largely being built a year at a time,
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And we didn't have a lot of that thinking, you know,
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Because of the this short term mentality.
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Okay. with that,
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The second piece is when i was growing up, there was no such a
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Thing as a retailer anointed to
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Be a retailer to generate revenue.
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That was groundbreaking at that time.
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And if there's a way to get a generation to realize god
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Wants us to invade the corporate world to do exactly
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What you feel, that's a big point.
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I think that's a super big point about what you're really
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Saying in this book and even some of your other books.
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I was in a service one time, and something happened that had
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Never happened to me before, because all my life i had seen
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People anointing pastors and send them forth and sent out
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And never a retailer.
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And it was one time that this individual said, i want to know
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Who the retailers are.
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I want to know who the people in business are.
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And they called us up. we're going to set you forth.
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It tore me up. it just literally tore me up.
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So why don't we send out retailers?
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Why don't we send out business people?
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Why don't we send everybody out?
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Because we're all supposed to be doing god's work.
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Not just the pastors, the evangelists, but all of us
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Have a purpose in our life.
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So somehow or another, i think we miss that.
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That we know that every single one of us has a point of
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Something god would have us to do.
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And i say sometimes, except just to accumulate more stuff,
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And that's how sometimes we as christians sometimes feel like
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We're going to get our happiness with just more stuff.
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Yeah. yeah. i want to speak to some
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Of the families listening right now.
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And you don't have to just be a retailer,
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By the way. if you're a family, family is the very first
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Institution that god establishes in the world.
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And if a family can stick together by that same set of
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Core values, the same set of faith from one generation to
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The next, or kids or grandkids, that's the first and easiest
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Way that you spread the gospel.
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That's how you take territory.
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But in our our western mindset, we've lost a lot of that ideas,
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That short term thinking, matt, that you just referenced.
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We raise our kids up, we sell our business
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So we go retire and sit on a beach?
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Is that the end game?
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No, it's that your kids,
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Your grandkids would still come together.
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And you don't have to be a hobby lobby to do that.
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Anybody can do that.
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You seem to be referencing a story on page 160 of the
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Kongo gumi story.
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There's a japanese family, a business that you talk about.
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And am i saying that right?
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Yeah, you got it. it was a construction company.
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They built temples.
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I think they made it about 46 generations.
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Yeah, 1400 year family legacy
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Of being in the construction
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Business with their kind of
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Claim to fame being uber quality.
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And you're talking about something that in a western
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Culture, um, you know, a few pages before that, you break
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Down, uh, the vanderbilt family and the rothschild family, and
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The difference between being able to stick together as
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Family and the in the vanderbilt family, five
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Generations later, zero inheritance, gone.
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Wow. and, um, a little better in the rothschild family
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Because they kind of stuck together and they've
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Been they've been around and kind of, kind of endured some,
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But nothing to compare to this
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1400 year story that you bring out.
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But it's more common than most people realize.
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If you go to other parts of the world, there's plenty of
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Companies that are a thousand years old, and we just don't
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Appreciate that here in the united states at all.
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So some of those stories, they're very real.
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One little aside.
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This is some of where david
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Said, man, i've got to think generationally.
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That's why you really said, i'm
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Going to deal with the ownership.
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And you certainly, you can talk about that.
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But in the vanderbilt family, the one little aside that is
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Worthy of pointing out, when vanderbilt died, cornelius
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Vanderbilt, he told his oldest son, he said, whatever you do,
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Keep the money together.
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When rothschild died, his admonition to his oldest son
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Was, whatever you do, keep the family together.
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The brothers together.
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And largely that was his goal and it largely resulted in much
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Better result. okay. wow.
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Um, founder ceo, hobby lobby, david green.
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Bill, you're always there to help, uh, kind of get
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Some of this organized. there is a
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Piece about the generational lens of god.
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God thinks this way.
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Um, speak to that just for a little bit.
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Uh, well, i think what i would say about that would be that,
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Uh, you know, the bible talks about work until i return.
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And so i think we're just going to work until i return.
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So i haven't given a date.
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I believe it's not far away, which i believed that all my
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Life, but it seems like we're getting closer.
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But i think we're building hobby lobby and our family and
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Our grandkids and our great grandkids,
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They know that the business is
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There and it's going to go on forward.
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No one is going to end up with a lot of money.
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Everybody gets what they earn.
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And that's an important word with hobby lobby.
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I could speak a little bit about earn.
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We have a committee that says, you earned this and you earn
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That depending on the responsibility they have.
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And so everybody receives what they earn in the business.
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But then we also have have never paid any dividends
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From our company.
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We never have nor will we ever
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Will because we don't see it as ours.
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We really see it as it belongs
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To god and we're simply the stewards.
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And by the way, being a steward of a company and ownership of
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The wealth that we have is ten times, 100 times better
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Than being owners.
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Owners brings a lot of pressure that that stewardship doesn't.
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So when it's not yours, you're very careful with it because
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You really care about what you're doing with what
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God has given you.
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We want to tell as many people as we can
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As i've said earlier about christ, and that's what we
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Really ask god to help us and guide us in whatever he gives
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Us to do, to tell people about him.
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Can i double down on something?
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Um, can you go back in your mind of something that that we
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Talked about a minute ago, that you
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Were a standalone kind of one of one thinking,
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I believe god's called me to sell things to be a retailer.
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I feel like i'm anointed to be a retailer.
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There wouldn't have been anybody to talk to in 1972,
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When you took out a $600 loan and started your little first
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Little frame construction business on the, on the, you
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Know, in your home and then finally moved into a little
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Living room sized store.
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There wouldn't have been anyone to talk to about that.
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But you believed that. now that you are, you know, you got a
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Little bit of the gray/ white hair there--
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Mine's gray, yours is white--
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Um, it feels like you're convinced of that to your core.
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But you wouldn't have been at the early days.
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You were hoping that's what you felt and you understood.
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But you couldn't have talked to anybody about that.
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No, i don't think anybody told me.
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And that's why i felt pretty
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Much like, uh, the second class christian.
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Really? really. because
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My brothers and sisters were ministers, and i
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Was-- i considered myself not that my parents told me that,
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But i really considered myself to be the black sheep of the
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Family until god did this miracle in my life that says,
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No, you're okay, because what happened is i gave money
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And it was needed.
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And i said, this works together.
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I can do something for the lord.
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So it was that moment that changed my mind, that i knew
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For certain that a retailer can be just as much in god's will
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As a pastor of a church.
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And so that that made the difference.
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And so we've been able to tell a lot of people about jesus as
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Much as maybe a pastor, or maybe more depending--
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We all do what god has asked us to do, and that's
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All we have to do.
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But that was the time that it changed.
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But no, before that time, i don't know that anybody says
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You can be okay as a retailer.
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It wasn't a heard of thing.
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And then, as i said earlier, to have someone call up people
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That was something other than a pastor and lay hands on them
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And set them forth,
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Why don't we set everybody forth to do god's work?
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But that really, really tore me up.
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I'll never forget that.
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And i think that's something that we might consider to do
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With everybody. everybody has a purpose.
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It goes back to we have a purpose.
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Every one of us, not just a few of us.
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And i think that was i think that was the mindset that you
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Went straight into ministry after you got out of school.
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You either, you know, the women played the piano or the organ
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And the guy preached, you know, and i think a lot of people got
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Out of their call you know, and tried to do--
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I know there's so many
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Businessmen out there that feel that,
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And the full gospel businessmen, i think was
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A great thing for for businessmen that
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Kind of what kind of woke everybody up, that no
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Matter what you do, whatever your gifts are,
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Everyone's got different gifts and stuff.
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Whether you're cutting hair, whether you're teaching kids.
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Selling insurance, selling the whole thing.
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Everybody's in ministry now, you know.
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And i think that's so, so important.
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Do you guys think that's fully understood in the body of
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Christ today, or is it still a little
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Bit of a stigma that there
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Are the five fold ministry gifts,
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Then there's these business guys?
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We've had some movement, really, since i've moved into
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The ministry world in the year 2000.
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So in the last 25 years, the rise of ministries to business
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People has grown dramatically.
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So i think there's been a greater appreciation of it.
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But certainly the era you were growing, starting your
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Business, that was not the case.
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But there's still very much like laurie, you were saying
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This idea of it's business or ministry, and we need
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To combine that thought.
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It's vocation and occupation meeting.
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And i think that that's when that real spark hits that
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When you're really doing what god's called you to do, and
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That's what you do eight, ten, 12 hours a day, you get this
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Sense that you're whole, not that you have a life over here
00:28:08.076 --> 00:28:12.847
Selling insurance, then you have this kind of life to serve
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In the in the church separately and independently.
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But when you know your occupation and
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Your ministry gift get to meet,
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I love that idea and that happened with you.
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But that doesn't--
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That's still, i think, largely misunderstood in a lot of
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People because like your example of the full gospel
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Businessmen, they were saying, hey, you're a businessman.
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Do ministry at your your work.
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Okay. that's one thing.
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What david's saying is something completely different.
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My anointing is to sell stuff. that's what i--
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That's why i have a gift. i can
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Find and identify little things.
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I can get them made cheaper, and i can have pretty things in
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People's homes that they enjoy for cheaper.
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And that's what i do.
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That's what you're saying?
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Yes. so you're doubling down on that really.
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Yes. i make less than i did 25 years ago, and our company
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Makes ten times as much.
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So it's not about me, it's about our ministry.
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So it is.
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So i make as much money as i can.
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I just get more stores, make more money and make more.
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I want to do the maximum i can do to do the maximum i can do
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In terms of ministry.
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So that is my calling.
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My calling is to buy and sell merchandise.
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And i'm pretty good at it. i love that.
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Yeah. i love that statement.
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You're living the dream of so many people, though, because so
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Many people say my gift--
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My gift is selling something or--
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But i want-- not in the church.
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But i want to be able to provide and to give
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Offerings and to do missions and to--
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But i want my business to do that.
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That's kind of what tbn wants to do.
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Tbn wants to have other networks
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Or other projects that-- fund.
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That fund tbn without any ask on tbn.
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Let tbn, the mothership, only spread the gospel of
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Jesus christ for free. there's no ask.
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That is a, that is a-- desire.
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Desire of us that tbn is strictly missions.
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There's no commercials.
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There's no telethons.
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There's no ask.
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It's just jesus free or free jesus.
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That's a desire of ours.
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That's great. you know?
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And so i know exactly what you're saying, but i
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Think so many people want to do that.
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And you're saying it's okay to do that.
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I feel like god gave me something, and i knew it was
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All right for me to make money because he has a reason for us
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To make money, and that's to tell people about jesus.
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So good.
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David, um, there was a moment you were at a conference and
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Somebody spoke over that group.
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If you feel comfortable, you and bill, if you guys feel
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Comfortable, release that over our audience.
00:31:01.716 --> 00:31:05.019
What if there's, you know, some young guy, you know, and going,
00:31:05.019 --> 00:31:08.823
Wait a second, this guy-- you know, the last time i looked,
00:31:08.823 --> 00:31:12.560
You know, you can google you and there's a little bit of
00:31:12.560 --> 00:31:14.829
Information about you online.
00:31:14.829 --> 00:31:17.098
And i looked and there's something like about, you know,
00:31:17.098 --> 00:31:20.668
7 or $8 billion per year.
00:31:20.668 --> 00:31:23.504
So when you say you're good at selling stuff, you're good
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At selling stuff.
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Over 1000 stores now, 1050 stores.
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And so you're good at what you do.
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Okay. and that, that may mean something to somebody
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In our audience.
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There's no distance in the kingdom of god.
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Your words are powerful.
00:31:42.924 --> 00:31:46.227
If you don't mind just talking to the young david green in
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This in this moment. your camera is kind of off that way
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With a red light on top of it. just do your thing.
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Great. well, i would just like to say to everybody that you're
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Created for a purpose, and i don't know sometimes whether we
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Even find our purpose if we're not looking for it.
00:32:04.178 --> 00:32:06.881
I think we need to know that god has created us to do
00:32:06.881 --> 00:32:09.484
Something, and we're not going to find fulfillment in life
00:32:09.484 --> 00:32:12.253
Just by getting more and more, a bigger car, a better car,
00:32:12.253 --> 00:32:15.289
More homes, a bigger ship, a bigger boat, etc.
00:32:15.289 --> 00:32:19.394
So i think we're going to only find fulfillment when we
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Find our purpose that god created us for. every single one
00:32:23.097 --> 00:32:26.401
Of us, god has created it.
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And i think as we ask him and come to him and ask god,
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What did you create me for? you have a reason.
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And look for that reason. seek it out.
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Pray and ask god,
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You have me for a reason. and god wants--
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He's not hiding it from us.
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I think we just don't know it
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Because he knows that you're not--
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You don't care about that reason.
00:32:47.588 --> 00:32:49.223
But i think you do care.
00:32:49.223 --> 00:32:50.792
That's why you're watching this show, is because you care that
00:32:50.792 --> 00:32:54.062
You have a purpose on this earth.
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You're going to be here.
00:32:55.596 --> 00:32:56.764
Your life is nothing but a vapor.
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Our lives are nothing but a vapor.
00:32:58.666 --> 00:33:00.368
And so we want to spend all of our time as much as we can in
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Things that are eternal.
00:33:04.272 --> 00:33:05.406
And so everything that we're involved in, in terms of
00:33:05.406 --> 00:33:07.475
Ministry, it's eternal.
00:33:07.475 --> 00:33:09.610
A lot of times, sometimes christians do things that are
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Strictly temporal,
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But god has put us on this earth, i think, to do something
00:33:14.348 --> 00:33:17.118
That's more than just temporal.
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He wants us to do things that's eternal.
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.355
And i think eternal means that we tell as many people
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The way we do it.
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There's different ways to tell people about christ.
00:33:26.127 --> 00:33:28.896
You feed them and tell them about jesus.
00:33:28.896 --> 00:33:30.665
But there's different ways that god would have
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Each one of us do that.
00:33:32.300 --> 00:33:34.135
But i think we somehow, somewhere, need to tell more
00:33:34.135 --> 00:33:37.638
People about jesus, and live it first in our lives and be
00:33:37.638 --> 00:33:41.776
Committed to him and live it first in our lives so that we
00:33:41.776 --> 00:33:44.579
Can be an example to others.
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We should do the very best.
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We're going to mess up.
00:33:48.382 --> 00:33:49.684
We're not going to be perfect, but do the very best we can to
00:33:49.684 --> 00:33:52.386
Find god's word and love god's word.
00:33:52.386 --> 00:33:56.457
I think it's important just to love god's word because it
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Leads us to wherever we need to be in life.
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And that's what i would hope for everyone that's listening.
00:34:01.529 --> 00:34:04.165
Yeah, matt, i'd take a line out of the last book too, which is
00:34:04.165 --> 00:34:07.001
This idea that whatever your hand finds to do,
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Do it with all your might.
00:34:09.871 --> 00:34:12.173
So david just talked about this
00:34:12.173 --> 00:34:13.641
Idea of purpose, and that is critical.
00:34:13.641 --> 00:34:16.010
You've got to look for that.
00:34:16.010 --> 00:34:17.545
You got to pursue god as you find that purpose.
00:34:17.545 --> 00:34:20.615
But while you're looking, whatever you're doing, if
00:34:20.615 --> 00:34:23.618
You're a hamburger flipper or you say this, david, if you're
00:34:23.618 --> 00:34:26.888
Working in the retail line, the manufacturing line, do it with
00:34:26.888 --> 00:34:31.025
All your might.
00:34:31.025 --> 00:34:32.260
If you're not faithful in the moment-- david had to be a
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Shepherd boy before he became a king.
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When you're faithful in the moment, you're faithful today.
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:41.936
God will lead you to wherever you need to be.
00:34:41.936 --> 00:34:46.207
And that's a lot of this idea of the legacy life.
00:34:46.207 --> 00:34:49.010
If you're faithful today, you can set in motion something
00:34:49.010 --> 00:34:52.480
Powerful for generations to come.
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.416
You know, i love that.
00:34:55.416 --> 00:34:57.051
And what about speaking to parents that they don't
00:34:57.051 --> 00:35:00.321
Have a godly heritage?
00:35:00.321 --> 00:35:01.956
They don't have-- they don't come from a line of pastors
00:35:01.956 --> 00:35:05.626
And believers.
00:35:05.626 --> 00:35:07.795
How do they create for their home now raising them with this
00:35:07.795 --> 00:35:13.000
Beautiful, godly legacy?
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Yeah. if i can, let me go on and
00:35:14.769 --> 00:35:16.370
Then i'll let you jump in on this.
00:35:16.370 --> 00:35:17.805
You go for it.
00:35:17.805 --> 00:35:19.040
So in part two of the book, we actually talk about every
00:35:19.040 --> 00:35:21.542
Family should have their own vision, mission values.
00:35:21.542 --> 00:35:25.646
You don't have to be a pastor's family.
00:35:25.646 --> 00:35:27.982
Every family can say very clearly, here's our set of
00:35:27.982 --> 00:35:30.751
Values that we want to live by for the next 100 years.
00:35:30.751 --> 00:35:34.989
And that's what your family's done.
00:35:34.989 --> 00:35:36.757
And i think any family that wants to serve the lord,
00:35:36.757 --> 00:35:39.360
Regardless of where their parents were preachers or not,
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.029
Or even knew the lord.
00:35:42.029 --> 00:35:44.198
I think any family can come to know christ, and he
00:35:44.198 --> 00:35:46.934
Welcomes all of us.
00:35:46.934 --> 00:35:48.369
And so we can start there.
00:35:48.369 --> 00:35:49.937
And i think that god is more than welcome every one of us
00:35:49.937 --> 00:35:53.441
To serve him.
00:35:53.441 --> 00:35:55.209
Okay, i'm going to ask this, and you don't have to answer it
00:35:55.209 --> 00:35:57.044
If you don't want to.
00:35:57.044 --> 00:35:58.312
Have you ever had a child in one of your lives that wasn't
00:35:58.312 --> 00:36:01.782
Fitting with the program
00:36:01.782 --> 00:36:04.418
That you can share?
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I think there was a time, um, and i used to say
00:36:06.988 --> 00:36:12.426
Something like that
00:36:12.426 --> 00:36:13.894
Might have colored outside the line.
00:36:13.894 --> 00:36:16.530
And, uh, i got caught saying that one time and someone says,
00:36:16.530 --> 00:36:20.534
Well, we all color outside the lines at some time or another.
00:36:20.534 --> 00:36:24.005
So i stopped using that at all. yeah. you know?
00:36:24.005 --> 00:36:26.907
Because maybe we all color outside the line.
00:36:26.907 --> 00:36:29.176
So i think all my children now are serving the
00:36:29.176 --> 00:36:32.546
Lord, although i'm not real sure they've always been intent
00:36:32.546 --> 00:36:35.916
On doing so, my grandchildren or great grandchildren.
00:36:35.916 --> 00:36:39.287
But we pray for them and we
00:36:39.287 --> 00:36:41.822
Just know that that's what god wants.
00:36:41.822 --> 00:36:43.557
And so i think when we do have a child that's not serving him,
00:36:43.557 --> 00:36:46.460
We just pray and we stay on our knees and we try to be parents--
00:36:46.460 --> 00:36:49.997
My mother and dad were the perfect example for six kids
00:36:49.997 --> 00:36:53.200
That says, i want to be like my mom and dad, my mother
00:36:53.200 --> 00:36:56.771
When she passed away, my sister had her in her arms and my
00:36:56.771 --> 00:37:00.241
Mother passed away, said, do you see them?
00:37:00.241 --> 00:37:02.243
Do you see them?
00:37:02.243 --> 00:37:03.344
Let me tell you something about my mother first.
00:37:03.344 --> 00:37:05.146
She had a marriage that lasted for life.
00:37:05.146 --> 00:37:06.847
She had six kids that served the lord.
00:37:06.847 --> 00:37:08.883
She wanted absolutely nothing in this world had, nothing that
00:37:08.883 --> 00:37:12.887
This world had, and a tremendous relationship
00:37:12.887 --> 00:37:14.855
With the lord. and she says, do you see them?
00:37:14.855 --> 00:37:17.591
Do you see them? and she was seeing angels.
00:37:17.591 --> 00:37:19.527
Thank you lord.
00:37:19.527 --> 00:37:20.628
So i think what's happening in my mother's-- is
00:37:20.628 --> 00:37:22.797
A billionaire that didn't know the lord would
00:37:22.797 --> 00:37:24.532
Love to die the way my mother did.
00:37:24.532 --> 00:37:26.734
And so god loves every single one of us.
00:37:26.734 --> 00:37:28.869
And no matter where we've been in life, he's willing
00:37:28.869 --> 00:37:31.339
To forget of us.
00:37:31.339 --> 00:37:32.640
And that we have all failed.
00:37:32.640 --> 00:37:34.542
And he's willing to take us up wherever we are.
00:37:34.542 --> 00:37:37.178
And that's what's good about god's word.
00:37:37.178 --> 00:37:39.647
We love god's word.
00:37:39.647 --> 00:37:41.816
Laurie, i would say, though, that we are living in a time
00:37:41.816 --> 00:37:44.385
Where kids being alienated from parents, the percentages of
00:37:44.385 --> 00:37:48.923
That are higher than it's ever been before in history.
00:37:48.923 --> 00:37:53.094
Chapter 11 of the book is all about this.
00:37:53.094 --> 00:37:55.196
It's all about the broken legacy.
00:37:55.196 --> 00:37:57.531
And there are.
00:37:57.531 --> 00:37:58.799
Will there be plenty of people watching this, that single,
00:37:58.799 --> 00:38:01.769
Widowed, divorced, or kids alienated?
00:38:01.769 --> 00:38:05.706
And that's the power of this legacy idea.
00:38:05.706 --> 00:38:08.509
Legacy is really this idea that god's drumbeat throughout
00:38:08.509 --> 00:38:12.146
History is a story of redemption and restoration.
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It is beautiful.
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I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb here.
00:38:17.118 --> 00:38:21.155
Um, the legacy life.
00:38:21.155 --> 00:38:23.357
We're discussing it with david green and bill high, founder
00:38:23.357 --> 00:38:27.461
Of hobby lobby.
00:38:27.461 --> 00:38:28.796
I bet you you can probably find this at hobby lobby.
00:38:28.796 --> 00:38:33.100
I bet it'll be close to the checkstand.
00:38:33.100 --> 00:38:35.703
I bet it will be.
00:38:35.703 --> 00:38:36.637
Yeah. you're doing good.
00:38:36.637 --> 00:38:37.671
Okay, good.
00:38:37.671 --> 00:38:39.006
I'm going to go out on a limb here, just for a moment.
00:38:39.006 --> 00:38:40.908
You didn't say this in your book, but i'm going to
00:38:40.908 --> 00:38:43.611
Read your words.
00:38:43.611 --> 00:38:44.912
Okay. i made my own commentary note here.
00:38:44.912 --> 00:38:49.183
And on page 54,
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The headline is call to faithfulness.
00:38:52.653 --> 00:38:56.290
Okay, that's the category, the context.
00:38:56.290 --> 00:38:59.493
And i wrote the note, life message.
00:38:59.493 --> 00:39:03.931
So you didn't say this, but i'm going to largely put words in
00:39:03.931 --> 00:39:07.201
Your mouth here for a second.
00:39:07.201 --> 00:39:08.335
I think i'm going to be okay because you say here,
00:39:08.335 --> 00:39:11.972
And i kind of made this big quote and underlined it,
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As you read these words,
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I hope that you hear the message here,
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Be faithful right where you're at.
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Be faithful with whatever god has put in your hands.
00:39:25.052 --> 00:39:30.524
And most of the time we look at social media and think, well,
00:39:30.524 --> 00:39:35.529
If i only had what they had in their hands or what that person
00:39:35.529 --> 00:39:39.500
Had in their hands, then i would understand that, because
00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:43.471
Usually god chooses the foolish to confound the wise, and we
00:39:43.471 --> 00:39:47.541
Think that we're just sitting here, the fool, and we don't
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Have anything to contribute. i don't have enough in my hand.
00:39:50.478 --> 00:39:52.179
You would have you would have largely thought, no way a
00:39:52.179 --> 00:39:55.716
Retailer can be anointed.
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But you started to believe that, and that took root.
00:39:57.084 --> 00:40:00.754
And hobby lobby is here and everyone knows what it is, so
00:40:00.754 --> 00:40:05.559
Be faithful with whatever god has put in your hands,
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.829
You're really talking about don't look somewhere else.
00:40:08.829 --> 00:40:13.734
What has god got with you? what do you have?
00:40:13.734 --> 00:40:16.370
Assess that and start there.
00:40:16.370 --> 00:40:17.938
Is that what you're saying?
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Yes. i think that's so important.
00:40:18.806 --> 00:40:20.374
So i'm not trying to say you're going to be a retailer
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And have 1000 stores. that's not the case.
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It wasn't the case for my mother and father.
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And i look at their legacy, their legacy with their
00:40:27.047 --> 00:40:29.383
Children and what they have brought people in to,
00:40:29.383 --> 00:40:33.320
To know the lord and and on and on and on.
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So i think we have to be very careful.
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We're not someone else.
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We are who we are, whatever god gives us.
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And by the way, i talk about, i'm a good merchant, but i have
00:40:42.229 --> 00:40:45.933
To say that's because that's what god made me.
00:40:45.933 --> 00:40:48.302
God gives us all some talent, but we have to know we got that
00:40:48.302 --> 00:40:51.805
Talent from god.
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So anything i have that's good has come from god.
00:40:52.907 --> 00:40:55.776
But god gives us all something to do.
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He gives us a purpose. and that's what we started with.
00:40:58.178 --> 00:41:01.181
God has made every one of us for a purpose.
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Your purpose is different than mine.
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But at the same time, let's use that purpose for his glory
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.256
And to glorify him.
00:41:09.256 --> 00:41:10.558
You're good at retail.
00:41:10.558 --> 00:41:12.393
Are you a good golfer?
00:41:12.393 --> 00:41:13.694
No, i don't golf.
00:41:13.694 --> 00:41:14.562
Ping pong. no.
00:41:14.562 --> 00:41:16.997
Checkers? no.
00:41:16.997 --> 00:41:18.098
I would be a good greeter at wal-- but that's it.
00:41:18.098 --> 00:41:20.034
You said wal--
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Yeah. we'll bleep that.
00:41:21.302 --> 00:41:23.137
Well, when my kids tell me this you're through, you know--
00:41:23.137 --> 00:41:26.307
And so i'm working real hard to be good.
00:41:26.307 --> 00:41:29.510
And so our sales are way up.
00:41:29.510 --> 00:41:30.844
So i think i've got another year.
00:41:30.844 --> 00:41:32.580
So anyway-- i want you to be a
00:41:32.580 --> 00:41:34.214
Greeter at hobby lobby.
00:41:34.214 --> 00:41:35.583
Yeah, exactly.
00:41:35.583 --> 00:41:37.518
Well, okay. i think i want to do that.
00:41:37.518 --> 00:41:40.020
In case somebody just tuned in
00:41:40.020 --> 00:41:42.690
Uh, bill, give that awesome definition you guys came up
00:41:42.690 --> 00:41:46.594
With for legacy, i love it. legacy is not what you leave
00:41:46.594 --> 00:41:49.930
Behind, but it's what you set in motion.
00:41:49.930 --> 00:41:52.132
Yeah. every person called to that idea of
00:41:52.132 --> 00:41:54.401
Generations of influence and impact for our king.
00:41:54.401 --> 00:41:58.606
You know, i've sat across from
00:41:58.606 --> 00:42:02.543
A purpose driven life rick warren, and he said,
00:42:02.543 --> 00:42:07.181
Look at how my book starts. it's not about you.
00:42:07.181 --> 00:42:10.551
Yeah. you know, and oftentimes he has to
00:42:10.551 --> 00:42:14.722
Remember that opening line, it's not about me.
00:42:14.722 --> 00:42:17.524
It's not about me.
00:42:17.524 --> 00:42:18.759
And that definition is humility in a statement.
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It is not about me, but what i set in motion.
00:42:25.499 --> 00:42:28.302
Um, just so we get to know you a little bit better, tell me
00:42:28.302 --> 00:42:32.740
About your clarinet days.
00:42:32.740 --> 00:42:34.908
Well, i don't like to tell about my clarinet days, but
00:42:34.908 --> 00:42:38.012
This guy makes me do it.
00:42:38.012 --> 00:42:39.213
So since you mentioned it, my aunt in california sent a
00:42:39.213 --> 00:42:43.550
Clarinet, so we didn't have any instruments in our home.
00:42:43.550 --> 00:42:46.754
So i became a clarinet player.
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And in band, you have a first chair that's the best.
00:42:48.956 --> 00:42:51.659
And you try out.
00:42:51.659 --> 00:42:53.127
And i was the last chair clarinet.
00:42:53.127 --> 00:42:55.162
There was eight of us.
00:42:55.162 --> 00:42:56.530
I was number eight, and i couldn't--
00:42:56.530 --> 00:42:59.967
I couldn't play the thing.
00:42:59.967 --> 00:43:01.168
The thing just squeaked and i was terrible at it.
00:43:01.168 --> 00:43:05.005
So i'm in band and i'm looking up here at this guy that's
00:43:05.005 --> 00:43:07.875
First chair trumpet player.
00:43:07.875 --> 00:43:09.376
He's got a beautiful ring on.
00:43:09.376 --> 00:43:11.445
His pants were always creased and i was a preacher's son,
00:43:11.445 --> 00:43:14.748
But i hated this guy.
00:43:14.748 --> 00:43:16.016
You know, i'm not
00:43:16.016 --> 00:43:17.484
Supposed-- i'm not supposed to say that,
00:43:17.484 --> 00:43:19.887
But i just didn't like him.
00:43:19.887 --> 00:43:21.922
So i just said, i'll just take him on and whip him.
00:43:21.922 --> 00:43:25.259
And the only thing i know behind the drugstore i was,
00:43:25.259 --> 00:43:27.995
I was laid out.
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And he-- all you remember is just
00:43:29.029 --> 00:43:31.398
Waking up after after the fight.
00:43:31.398 --> 00:43:33.367
So that was the last fight.
00:43:33.367 --> 00:43:34.768
And i'd had a-- by the way, i'd had a lot of fights.
00:43:34.768 --> 00:43:37.137
I haven't told him, but i had a lot of fights before that.
00:43:37.137 --> 00:43:39.940
The first fight i had was a kid, was on a bicycle, and i'm
00:43:39.940 --> 00:43:43.110
Walking home and he's got a bike and i don't.
00:43:43.110 --> 00:43:45.479
So in the food chain he was one above me.
00:43:45.479 --> 00:43:47.681
I was at the last, he was one above, and he just kept
00:43:47.681 --> 00:43:51.218
Irritating me and irritating me.
00:43:51.218 --> 00:43:52.753
So one day i just pulled him
00:43:52.753 --> 00:43:54.054
Off that bike, this preacher's son,
00:43:54.054 --> 00:43:56.223
And i just beat him up.
00:43:56.223 --> 00:43:58.058
And then i started going up the--hey, it's a food chain.
00:43:58.058 --> 00:44:02.529
And i kept going up the food chain.
00:44:02.529 --> 00:44:04.465
This guy was at the top of the food chain.
00:44:04.465 --> 00:44:06.366
He was a trumpet player. first chair.
00:44:06.366 --> 00:44:08.502
And so i took on the very first.
00:44:08.502 --> 00:44:11.004
I had really moved up in, in the food chain line.
00:44:11.004 --> 00:44:14.508
And i whipped a lot of people,
00:44:14.508 --> 00:44:15.642
But that guy just knocked me out.
00:44:15.642 --> 00:44:17.644
And so i gave up.
00:44:17.644 --> 00:44:19.513
So i think i fell back down. to the bottom of the food chain.
00:44:19.513 --> 00:44:22.049
How does that play into legacy?
00:44:22.049 --> 00:44:23.417
You got to tell the next part, by the way.
00:44:23.417 --> 00:44:24.985
What was the next part?
00:44:24.985 --> 00:44:25.819
The tuba player.
00:44:25.819 --> 00:44:26.987
I took on the tuba and i became first chair tuba player.
00:44:26.987 --> 00:44:30.124
There was only three of us, but i, i can, you know, if it takes
00:44:30.124 --> 00:44:33.560
A lot of hot air, i can do it.
00:44:33.560 --> 00:44:35.462
So i was first chair tuba player.
00:44:35.462 --> 00:44:38.398
You were just a scrappy guy then.
00:44:38.398 --> 00:44:40.667
I was because i would load potatoes that were 100
00:44:40.667 --> 00:44:44.138
Pounds and over my head.
00:44:44.138 --> 00:44:45.739
And that's what i would do to make some money sometimes is
00:44:45.739 --> 00:44:48.842
Just load trucks, things like that.
00:44:48.842 --> 00:44:50.744
But i was pretty good at whipping people and i was
00:44:50.744 --> 00:44:53.781
Pretty good, but--
00:44:53.781 --> 00:44:55.849
Like my dad. but leave the trumpet
00:44:55.849 --> 00:44:57.851
Players alone, you know.
00:44:57.851 --> 00:44:59.086
My dad played the trumpet.
00:44:59.086 --> 00:45:00.320
Oh. did he? yeah. i would have.
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:01.722
He did. and he was a scrapper.
00:45:01.722 --> 00:45:04.892
I was too. i was--
00:45:04.892 --> 00:45:05.893
It was a little more common in those days.
00:45:05.893 --> 00:45:07.961
Let me ask you a serious question about being scrappy.
00:45:07.961 --> 00:45:11.698
In business today,
00:45:11.698 --> 00:45:14.268
Hobby lobby annual sales in the billions, approaching $8 billion
00:45:14.268 --> 00:45:21.275
In annual sales.
00:45:21.275 --> 00:45:23.076
Do you rest or are you scrappy?
00:45:23.076 --> 00:45:26.647
Or is it a little bit of both?
00:45:26.647 --> 00:45:28.448
You know, when i was raising my kids, we would go skiing a
00:45:28.448 --> 00:45:30.651
Couple times a year and we would go on vacation and do
00:45:30.651 --> 00:45:33.821
All sorts of stuff.
00:45:33.821 --> 00:45:35.088
But now i tell my wife, i work six days a week, and i said,
00:45:35.088 --> 00:45:37.558
Hey, if you feel like you're by yourself, call me and i'll come
00:45:37.558 --> 00:45:40.460
Home, because i don't have to be there, but i just love
00:45:40.460 --> 00:45:42.362
To go to work. and so that's what i do.
00:45:42.362 --> 00:45:44.832
I don't recommend it for anybody.
00:45:44.832 --> 00:45:48.035
They need to have a hobby.
00:45:48.035 --> 00:45:49.736
But my hobby is just going down and just--
00:45:49.736 --> 00:45:51.839
And i asked the lord, i walk through there and i say, god,
00:45:51.839 --> 00:45:54.274
Find me something that we can make more profit.
00:45:54.274 --> 00:45:56.777
And so he's always finding me something that's really
00:45:56.777 --> 00:45:59.413
Not done well.
00:45:59.413 --> 00:46:00.447
And so that's what i ask him to do.
00:46:00.447 --> 00:46:02.616
And when you say not well, is there an example that you
00:46:02.616 --> 00:46:06.854
Might, uh, you might find inside of your store?
00:46:06.854 --> 00:46:11.225
You find a product and, you know, something like this?
00:46:11.225 --> 00:46:14.661
I mean, there's something like
00:46:14.661 --> 00:46:15.796
That in, in a hobby lobby, right?
00:46:15.796 --> 00:46:17.898
I mean, let me tell you about ribbon, okay?
00:46:17.898 --> 00:46:20.033
Okay. ribbon, ribbon.
00:46:20.033 --> 00:46:21.001
We had 1000 different items in ribbon.
00:46:21.001 --> 00:46:23.537
And so sometimes your buyers,
00:46:23.537 --> 00:46:25.105
Oh, this is cute. this is nice.
00:46:25.105 --> 00:46:26.640
And they'll add this and they'll add that.
00:46:26.640 --> 00:46:29.343
And it was a mess.
00:46:29.343 --> 00:46:30.410
It was just a mess.
00:46:30.410 --> 00:46:31.612
And so in my store i have these big signs up that say
00:46:31.612 --> 00:46:35.449
Too many choices are harmful business.
00:46:35.449 --> 00:46:37.718
Study study study study.
00:46:37.718 --> 00:46:39.653
Ask the lord for direction.
00:46:39.653 --> 00:46:41.521
Keep it simple. those are the things.
00:46:41.521 --> 00:46:43.023
That's two foot letters in my store.
00:46:43.023 --> 00:46:45.926
But as an example i would dig into ribbon and we had ribbon.
00:46:45.926 --> 00:46:49.129
And i would find out, for instance, that every time a
00:46:49.129 --> 00:46:52.366
One and a half out sells a 7/8 inch.
00:46:52.366 --> 00:46:56.737
Oh, by the way, if i ask you a question, i say i've got
00:46:56.737 --> 00:47:00.707
Seven sizes of one color,
00:47:00.707 --> 00:47:02.242
How many choices do you have?
00:47:02.242 --> 00:47:03.610
You're a buyer. how many choices do you have?
00:47:03.610 --> 00:47:05.612
Seven. there would be--
00:47:05.612 --> 00:47:06.780
I was told there would be no math on this interview,
00:47:06.780 --> 00:47:09.149
So i don't like math.
00:47:09.149 --> 00:47:10.884
Yeah. in one color?
00:47:10.884 --> 00:47:12.452
One color. you have 720 choices.
00:47:12.452 --> 00:47:15.255
Oh, wow.
00:47:15.255 --> 00:47:17.524
So i ask, there's this lady that's real smart, that's
00:47:17.524 --> 00:47:20.227
On your phone.
00:47:20.227 --> 00:47:21.061
I ask her, siri, is that her name?
00:47:21.061 --> 00:47:22.996
Yeah.
00:47:22.996 --> 00:47:24.031
And i ask her, she says, you have 700 choices.
00:47:24.031 --> 00:47:25.799
You could buy none.
00:47:25.799 --> 00:47:26.867
You could buy this one.
00:47:26.867 --> 00:47:27.801
These two, these two, these two.
00:47:27.801 --> 00:47:29.503
720. you're a buyer and you got 720 choices to buy ribbon.
00:47:29.503 --> 00:47:34.908
Yeah.
00:47:34.908 --> 00:47:36.176
So i said, well, i know there's at least, uh, 40 colors and
00:47:36.176 --> 00:47:39.179
There's at least
00:47:39.179 --> 00:47:41.281
20 different kinds of fabric and there's at least 20
00:47:41.281 --> 00:47:44.117
Different sizes. widths.
00:47:44.117 --> 00:47:45.652
And yeah, and so-- widths, 20 widths.
00:47:45.652 --> 00:47:48.288
And i said siri, how many choices do i have?
00:47:48.288 --> 00:47:52.392
And she says, a whole bunch.
00:47:52.392 --> 00:47:55.462
She couldn't even figure it out.
00:47:55.462 --> 00:47:57.731
But i can say the same thing if i send you overseas and i said,
00:47:57.731 --> 00:48:00.233
You're going to buy santa claus, you'll see a thousand
00:48:00.233 --> 00:48:02.336
Santa clauses.
00:48:02.336 --> 00:48:03.403
Well, how many are you going to buy?
00:48:03.403 --> 00:48:04.504
You know.
00:48:04.504 --> 00:48:05.772
So those are the things that we have to deal with in retail.
00:48:05.772 --> 00:48:07.874
We have to--
00:48:07.874 --> 00:48:09.142
Too many choices are harmful to life, harmful to business.
00:48:09.142 --> 00:48:12.079
And so that's one of the things that we try to learn.
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.481
Well, how do we get less
00:48:14.481 --> 00:48:16.316
Numbers of items and do more business.
00:48:16.316 --> 00:48:18.585
And so that's what we're challenged to do.
00:48:18.585 --> 00:48:20.654
We have to really study to do that.
00:48:20.654 --> 00:48:22.789
And you might trade some of the santa clauses for baby jesuses.
00:48:22.789 --> 00:48:27.394
Okay. we don't have too many of those.
00:48:27.394 --> 00:48:29.396
They don't.
00:48:29.396 --> 00:48:30.897
I bought a little sign the other day.
00:48:30.897 --> 00:48:32.699
It's a small little thing, and it says, i remember the days i
00:48:32.699 --> 00:48:36.069
Prayed for what i have now.
00:48:36.069 --> 00:48:37.604
Yeah.
00:48:37.604 --> 00:48:38.672
And i love that because it's so true.
00:48:38.672 --> 00:48:41.008
God in his faithfulness.
00:48:41.008 --> 00:48:43.010
But god has blessed you guys for your hearts.
00:48:43.010 --> 00:48:46.380
For what-- thank god
00:48:46.380 --> 00:48:51.184
You went out of the box and you were different from the
00:48:51.184 --> 00:48:53.487
Rest of the family. and you owned it.
00:48:53.487 --> 00:48:55.989
You owned that.
00:48:55.989 --> 00:48:56.923
And you did what god called you to do.
00:48:56.923 --> 00:48:59.493
And now we look around at the things that you in the green
00:48:59.493 --> 00:49:02.496
Family have accomplished,
00:49:02.496 --> 00:49:05.399
And it's just fascinating.
00:49:05.399 --> 00:49:07.034
It's just amazing.
00:49:07.034 --> 00:49:08.035
And i thank you for that.
00:49:08.035 --> 00:49:10.337
I thank you because you have planted in other people's
00:49:10.337 --> 00:49:12.672
Gardens for their legacy.
00:49:12.672 --> 00:49:14.574
And the harvest is rich, and i appreciate it.
00:49:14.574 --> 00:49:19.613
In the final moments here, i want to just look at the camera
00:49:19.613 --> 00:49:23.617
And say, if you're the trumpet player that david fought,
00:49:23.617 --> 00:49:28.722
Contact me.
00:49:28.722 --> 00:49:29.489
I'd like to talk to you sometime.
00:49:29.489 --> 00:49:30.991
I think that-- just if you know that that story is about you
00:49:30.991 --> 00:49:33.994
And you fought with david green back in oklahoma when
00:49:33.994 --> 00:49:36.530
You're a kid, i'd love to--
00:49:36.530 --> 00:49:37.431
At least apologize. yeah.
00:49:37.431 --> 00:49:41.001
I've said sorry a few times on
00:49:41.001 --> 00:49:43.470
There, just in case you were watching.
00:49:43.470 --> 00:49:46.440
That was funny.
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:47.974
Okay, how do you guys-- you guys get the final word.
00:49:47.974 --> 00:49:50.544
Okay, so the legacy life available, i'm sure at wal--
00:49:50.544 --> 00:49:55.816
Target, hobby lobby, amazon, all of them.
00:49:55.816 --> 00:50:01.822
Uh, but i'm really sure they're there at hobby lobby.
00:50:01.822 --> 00:50:05.692
Okay. uh, amazon, too.
00:50:05.692 --> 00:50:07.727
So, david, just land the plane.
00:50:07.727 --> 00:50:11.098
Your last kind of thoughts on this and why this benefits our
00:50:11.098 --> 00:50:16.303
Audience watching right now?
00:50:16.303 --> 00:50:17.904
Yeah, i think it benefits every one of us.
00:50:17.904 --> 00:50:19.739
We're all going to have a
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Legacy that's going to go forward.
00:50:21.308 --> 00:50:22.943
Not it's not what's backwards, but it's forward.
00:50:22.943 --> 00:50:25.512
So what are we doing now that it's going to make a difference
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For the for the future?
00:50:28.048 --> 00:50:30.484
And i always look at things, and i said it earlier,
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That we have two lives.
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One is nothing but a vapor and one's eternal.
00:50:34.054 --> 00:50:36.790
So i think we have a legacy that's going to have something
00:50:36.790 --> 00:50:39.326
To do with people's eternal life.
00:50:39.326 --> 00:50:41.428
And so that's what we would hope to do in our lives and our
00:50:41.428 --> 00:50:44.764
Children and our children's children's lives.
00:50:44.764 --> 00:50:47.701
Final thought.
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We'll cause the book will cause you to think differently
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About your family.
00:50:50.804 --> 00:50:51.972
The generational impact of family.
00:50:51.972 --> 00:50:54.241
At the same time, it will give you some practical plans and
00:50:54.241 --> 00:50:57.878
Practices that you can do so you can succeed as a family for
00:50:57.878 --> 00:51:01.281
Generations to come. beautiful.
00:51:01.281 --> 00:51:03.483
And i found out today that christmas supplies end up
00:51:03.483 --> 00:51:07.387
Going on sale at hobby lobby in july?
00:51:07.387 --> 00:51:10.524
Now they're 50% off.
00:51:10.524 --> 00:51:13.260
Are they 50% off already there?
00:51:13.260 --> 00:51:15.428
Yeah, 50% off.
00:51:15.428 --> 00:51:16.630
Okay. don't ask me how i know.
00:51:16.630 --> 00:51:18.265
Run to hobby lobby.
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Shut the tv off now. go.
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We'll see you next time. okay. bye bye.
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♪♪
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David Green & Bill High: The Legacy Life | Praise

October 14, 2025 | 53:12

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