Donnie McClurkin: Finding Your God-Given Purpose | Praise

October 2, 2025 | 57:0

Gospel legend Donnie McClurkin debuts his final album, "Finally," featuring a powerful lineup of songs that resonate with the heart and soul. With a focus on bringing Gospel back to its roots, Donnie collaborates with iconic artists, culminating in a show-stopping performance of "Place in This World" with CCM star Michael W. Smith. As the journey unfolds, listeners are taken on a transformative, emotional ride through the power of music and faith, showcasing the enduring impact of standing strong in the face of adversity.

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Praise | Donnie McClurkin: Finding Your God-Given Purpose | Praise | October 2, 2025
  • Coming up tonight on praise...
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  • You don't understand what destiny can happen in
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  • One moment's time.
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  • Thank you lord.
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  • If you're in the right place, following god at the right
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  • Time, your destiny can be in a moment.
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  • Had we not gone to that concert,
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  • It's a wonder in my soul.
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  • Had we not gone to that concert,
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  • I would have missed a moment.
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  • ♪♪
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  • Tonight on praise from nashville, multi award winning
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  • Gospel singer and pastor, donnie mcclurkin.
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  • And now your hosts, matt and laurie crouch.
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  • Welcome to nashville, tennessee.
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  • We are going to spend one hour
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  • With gospel music legend donnie mcclurkin.
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  • And in addition, we're going to spend it right here in the
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  • Middle of what it takes to actually create music.
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  • We're right here.
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  • I see all these different instruments.
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  • Yeah. um, donnie, you play piano?
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  • Yeah.
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  • Yes, i do. okay.
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  • You play-- do you play the drums?
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  • Uh, no, i play the congas.
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  • Play congas.
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  • Do you play the organ? i-- no.
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  • Okay. you play guitar?
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  • Not at all. bass?
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  • Not at all.
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  • Okay. violin, flute? none of those things.
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  • No trombone.
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  • Spoons? yeah, i can do spoons.
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  • Okay, so you are basically keyboardist?
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  • Yeah. yes.
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  • Do you write your music on keyboard?
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  • Yes. okay.
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  • Yeah, i sit down.
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  • I'll be asleep and a song will come in my dream.
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  • Oh. 2 or 3:00 in the morning,
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  • I'll run downstairs and play it and send it to the producers.
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  • And they make it come alive.
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  • Do you record it on your phone?
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  • Yes. if you looked at my phone right now, there's like 170
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  • Some odd different half of songs that were written.
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  • Explain to the audience why i'm looking at you and saying this.
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  • Finally! what do i mean by that?
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  • What you mean by that, brother, is this project that we're
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  • Working on is my last recording. mhm.
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  • I've done about maybe seven recordings so far and there
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  • Comes a time every good thing must come to an end.
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  • And so this is going to be my final recording.
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  • I'm going to still do concerts
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  • And i'll still sing a little bit.
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  • But as far as the industry is concerned, this is where i hang
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  • Up my hat.
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  • Or like pop said, this hat gettin' time.
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  • You get your hat
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  • And you go and it's it's, it's sentimental.
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  • It's very sentimental to me because i've, i've run the
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  • Gambit in the music industry, and there's nothing to do now
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  • But to compete with yourself.
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  • And when you get to that point where you're just competing
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  • With yourself, it's time to go on to the next thing that god
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  • Calls you to do. got it.
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  • And sit back and look at the history of what you've
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  • Already accomplished.
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  • Your new album, finally-- yes.
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  • Has a subtitle that you're going to need to explain.
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  • Yeah.
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  • So the subtitle is bringing gospel back to gospel music.
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  • Yes.
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  • Okay. what do you mean by that?
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  • All right. you ready? yep.
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  • You know, gospel music had
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  • Its foundation as a christ-centered music.
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  • It is all about jesus.
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  • It's all about the relationship with him.
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  • God with man, man with god, and the man with each other through
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  • Christ's example.
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  • And we lost it somewhere along the way.
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  • We've kind of muddied it up, and we've made it an
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  • Entertainment form.
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  • We've made it inspirational.
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  • And there's nothing wrong with inspirational music, but we've
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  • Kind of veered to the left and it's positive music with a
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  • Little spiritual backdrop.
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  • And we've forgotten in many different ways the christ-
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  • Centeredness that's needed in order for this music to carry
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  • The power of salvation, you know.
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  • And so this is just my attempt at bringing us back to the
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  • Center and bringing an eclectic array of gospel music that
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  • Represents true gospel.
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  • And if i be lifted up, i will draw
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  • All men unto myself. and that's what we've got to do.
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  • We've got to take the attention off of us as the artists and
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  • Put it on christ as the foundation of all that we do.
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  • You know, what's interesting
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  • About what you're explaining is concerts
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  • Over the years have taken a few bad p.r. hits.
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  • You know, i remember having a conversation in this
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  • Very spot with bill and gloria gaither.
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  • And, you know, a lot of people in the 70s thought they had
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  • Gone the way of the world when they started charging ticket
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  • Prices and all this kind of stuff.
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  • And they just had a way that they wanted to do it.
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  • It's kind of worked out okay for bill and gloria gaither.
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  • They're doing okay. i'd say so.
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  • They're going to be okay, donnie, in case you're worried.
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  • And so it feels, though, that you've explained something
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  • That if you lift him up in a
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  • Song, he will draw all men unto himself.
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  • It's not even our responsibility.
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  • We have the same calling at tbn that you've been a part of now
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  • For 30 years.
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  • Uh, good lord, donnie, we were the kids.
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  • We all of a sudden we, you know, we turned around and
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  • We're the old guys, you know, gray hair and no hair
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  • All of a sudden. look at that.
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  • Wow. wow. he said he
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  • Didn't have hair because he's never been married.
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  • Yes.
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  • And i'm thinking maybe that would be the opposite.
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  • So donnie "finally" is, you know, odd, bittersweet kind of
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  • To us listeners, you know, but here we are, the calling of tbn
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  • To lift jesus up, the calling of donnie to go into music,
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  • Lift him up inside of song.
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  • We're coming together.
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  • That's what this program is about.
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  • This entire special that we're creating.
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  • We want to get to know a little bit about what this music is.
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  • If you give me an example of a song you wrote, one that you
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  • Really like, one that you're going to perform, right here.
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  • I want to know how you picked the music
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  • For this album?
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  • It's really, um, without sounding mystical,
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  • It picks you. okay.
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  • It really picks you.
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  • I was singing one of the songs.
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  • I was sitting in the service and the preacher was preaching.
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  • Okay.
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  • And i zoned out.
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  • I don't know what that message was to this day.
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  • No offense, pastor winans.
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  • I don't know what that message was to this day.
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  • And i just heard, [singing] you said
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  • You'd never leave, and i believe...
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  • That you would stay...
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  • You said you'd never leave...
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  • And i believe you won't go away...
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  • I believe,
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  • I believe, yes, i believe...
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  • You never walk away...
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  • You never will...
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  • When i went astray,
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  • You loved me still...
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  • You won't forsake me...
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  • You'll never leave me all alone...
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  • That was the whole song.
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  • I sat there and i cried.
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  • And i guess the preacher thought i was really touched
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  • By his message. glory to god.
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  • And that's how the song came about.
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  • And then i heard all the harmonies in my head.
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  • I heard four part harmonies in my head, and i had to get to my
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  • Piano when i got home and put it all together and didn't know
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  • What i was going to do with it, because it didn't sound
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  • Like it was gospel.
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  • It didn't sound gospel.
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  • And then the lord had to show me.
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  • There is a romantic side to the gospel where god romances us
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  • And god gives us the assurance, i'm not leaving you.
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  • I'm never going to leave you alone by yourself.
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  • I'm with you through the good times, the bad times, the hard
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  • Times, the happy times.
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  • I watch you while you sleep.
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  • I'll watch you and i touch you in the morning to wake you up.
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  • I'm never going to leave you.
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  • And that's where that song birthed from.
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  • So that song's got a real
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  • Special meaning to me, you know?
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  • Then there's another song that i wrote,
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  • And i drove my producers crazy just about four days ago
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  • Because we got all the songs.
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  • And then i called trent and said, i got another song.
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  • And he's like, nah, man.
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  • Nah, man. come on.
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  • And it was just [sings] he is the mighty god...
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  • He is the mighty god...
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  • Dum da dum...
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  • Bless his name...
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  • He is the mighty god...
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  • Boom boom boom...
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  • Jesus is his name...
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  • ♪ you're a mighty god we serve ♪
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  • ♪ nobody like jesus ♪
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  • ♪ what a mighty god we serve ♪
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  • ♪ angels bow before him ♪
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  • ♪ heaven and earth adore him ♪
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  • ♪ what a mighty god we serve ♪
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  • And we go on to different, different forms of that.
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  • And i told him, just put a brazilian kind of beat to it.
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  • Afro, afrocentric, brazilian kind of beat to it.
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  • And they make the songs come alive.
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  • And i sit back and i'm like, this is how i heard it.
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  • And it's amazing how they can take the idea and, and put
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  • Horns to it and put strings to it and put the whole rhythm
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  • Section to it.
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  • We've got tré corley and trent phillips as the producers, and
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  • I am more excited about this than i've ever been about any
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  • Project that i wrote, because the songs are coming alive.
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  • If you just tuned in, we are in nashville.
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  • Welcome to nashville, tennessee. we're in
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  • Hendersonville and this entire studio is rockin.
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  • And we are finally, right?
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  • Finally, finally.
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  • We're finally bringing gospel back to gospel music.
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  • Okay, that's a pretty, uh,
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  • Straightforward statement, donnie.
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  • Not you're not mincing any words here.
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  • It's kind of indicting.
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  • Okay. it's kind of indicting.
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  • Um, and this is not throwing
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  • Any shade on any of the gospel artists.
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  • I'm just who i am.
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  • I am an old codger. i am--
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  • Now we're getting somewhere.
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  • Oh, yeah. man, listen-- here we go.
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  • I'm sitting here right now saying, is there a pillow i can
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  • Put under me?
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  • Um, i'm an old guy.
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  • I was born and raised in church.
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  • I've been saved since 1969 at nine years old.
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  • Uh, this is all i know is the christ centeredness that goes
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  • Along with singing about jesus.
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  • The hymns, the congregational songs that you couldn't find in
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  • The hymn books, the way that we presented jesus that
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  • Made people that were drunk come off the streets, that made
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  • Addicts come in.
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  • They could hear the music through the windows, and they
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  • Would come in and they're intoxicated or drunk state or
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  • High state, come up and give their lives to jesus christ.
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  • And before you know it,
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  • They're conversion converted other people.
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  • The music drew them.
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  • We would go outside and do street services.
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  • We would go to in amityville, new york-- amityville horror.
  • 00:11:47.318 --> 00:11:50.955
  • I was born and raised in amityville, and in amityville
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  • There was an intersection,
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  • Great neck road and albany avenue.
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  • That's where all the druggies and all the drunks and all the
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  • Derelicts hung out.
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  • And we, i was 18 years old, and we
  • 00:12:01.866 --> 00:12:04.903
  • Would borrow money to get a
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  • P.a. system as small as it was, run an extension cord and pay
  • 00:12:07.338 --> 00:12:12.377
  • Somebody $50 to run an extension cord into the house
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  • To plug up all the equipment
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  • And do street services on the corner with all the druggies
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  • And the drunks and the derelicts.
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  • Stop traffic.
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  • We would stop--
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  • I wasn't preaching nothing.
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  • You know, my thing is, god so loved the world.
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  • Amen in jesus. it was--
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  • I was a nerd and it was how we all started.
  • 00:12:32.530 --> 00:12:36.935
  • But that gospel drew people in
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  • By the hundreds on a street corner.
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  • And we would do this every summer.
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  • Beautiful. this music has been a part of your life for
  • 00:12:45.210 --> 00:12:48.279
  • All these years.
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  • Give us the origin story of donnie mcclurkin and music.
  • 00:12:49.848 --> 00:12:55.687
  • So you, you know,
  • 00:12:55.687 --> 00:12:58.857
  • You know, some kids want to be a fireman or spaceman or, you
  • 00:12:58.857 --> 00:13:02.093
  • Know, police officer or something like that.
  • 00:13:02.093 --> 00:13:03.728
  • And then something happens somewhere along the line.
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  • When did you turn into donnie mcclurkin, the music guy?
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  • The multiple grammy award winner,
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  • The multiple dove,
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  • Multiple, multiple everything.
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  • It's pretty impressive when you're 65 and you've been in
  • 00:13:17.275 --> 00:13:19.811
  • The music business for 62 years.
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  • That's what's impressive to me, you know?
  • 00:13:23.715 --> 00:13:26.184
  • And it started with my mother. okay.
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  • My mother was a piano player,
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  • And she was very, very religious.
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  • And she taught us how to sing.
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  • Me and my two older sisters,
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  • Uh, before there were ten.
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  • My mom had ten pregnancies, and eight of us lived.
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  • And i'm the top three.
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  • And me and my two older sisters, we were always
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  • In the living room.
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  • She taught us harmony.
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  • And i was three years old, and they put me on a table at
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  • Church, on the communion table and stood me up, and we sang,
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  • ♪ i had a talk with god last night ♪
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  • I love it.
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  • ♪ he told me that everything is all right ♪
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  • That was my first solo, three years old and
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  • Nothing much happened after that.
  • 00:14:17.268 --> 00:14:19.003
  • She taught us harmonies.
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  • She taught us little things to play on the piano.
  • 00:14:20.438 --> 00:14:23.374
  • But then in 1969,
  • 00:14:23.374 --> 00:14:27.378
  • I was saved.
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  • A little small storefront church,
  • 00:14:30.448 --> 00:14:31.983
  • Amityville gospel tabernacle.
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  • And my mother introduced me to an album called andre crouch
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  • And the disciples.
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  • Heyo. yep.
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  • Andre crouch and the disciples.
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  • Um, i think the album was called through it all.
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  • Yep. and when i heard it,
  • 00:14:48.566 --> 00:14:52.770
  • We had, you know, hi-fi.
  • 00:14:52.770 --> 00:14:54.138
  • We had the big little tower speakers.
  • 00:14:54.138 --> 00:14:56.407
  • I would put the tower speakers facing each other, and i would
  • 00:14:56.407 --> 00:14:58.843
  • Lay back on the floor with my head in between the two of
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  • Them, and be in a full concert.
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  • Did you do the eight tracks? that's before--
  • 00:15:03.581 --> 00:15:05.717
  • I can tell you when those eight tracks skip to
  • 00:15:05.717 --> 00:15:08.152
  • The next song right in the middle of the song.
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  • I can tell you when.
  • 00:15:09.721 --> 00:15:11.022
  • But see, remember i was before eight tracks. i was, i was at
  • 00:15:11.022 --> 00:15:15.093
  • 33.5 and 45, and i was laying there at nine years old and
  • 00:15:15.093 --> 00:15:20.732
  • Just listen, and a song came on called i'm coming home.
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  • It was the last song on the second side, and there was a
  • 00:15:26.537 --> 00:15:30.475
  • Young girl by the name of tramaine davis at the time.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Tramaine davis, and she was 17
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  • And she's saying, i'm coming home, dear lord, i'm coming
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  • Home, dear lord...
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  • And tramaine said, i'm sorry we ain't stayed away so long...
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  • Sorry i stayed away so long...
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  • And i would just cry.
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  • I'm nine years old. just laying there crying.
  • 00:15:55.266 --> 00:15:57.201
  • And my mother would come see that
  • 00:15:57.201 --> 00:15:59.404
  • I totally reconfigured
  • 00:15:59.404 --> 00:16:01.873
  • The speakers and before she would fuss, she
  • 00:16:01.873 --> 00:16:04.509
  • Would see me crying and leave me laying there.
  • 00:16:04.509 --> 00:16:06.711
  • She wouldn't disturb me.
  • 00:16:06.711 --> 00:16:08.846
  • And that's how my music thing started happening.
  • 00:16:08.846 --> 00:16:12.483
  • I would hear the harmonies.
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  • I'm laying on my back, listening, hearing the
  • 00:16:14.619 --> 00:16:16.788
  • Harmonies, not knowing what to do with it because i was nine,
  • 00:16:16.788 --> 00:16:20.892
  • But it just started taking over. that was nine.
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  • Two years later, october of 1971--
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  • I can't do this. god, i can't do this.
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  • I'm 11 years old and my mother
  • 00:16:34.272 --> 00:16:37.008
  • Takes us to church in jamaica, queens.
  • 00:16:37.008 --> 00:16:41.112
  • Andre crouch is there.
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  • He's driven in a van across country doing different states
  • 00:16:43.481 --> 00:16:48.086
  • Across country,
  • 00:16:48.086 --> 00:16:50.188
  • And he's at the church.
  • 00:16:50.188 --> 00:16:52.657
  • So i'm going to andre's concert.
  • 00:16:52.657 --> 00:16:54.725
  • I sit on the front row at bethel gospel tabernacle.
  • 00:16:54.725 --> 00:16:59.530
  • I sit on the front row and this lady sits next to me.
  • 00:16:59.530 --> 00:17:03.501
  • It's sandra. i don't know sandra.
  • 00:17:03.501 --> 00:17:06.404
  • All i know is andre.
  • 00:17:06.404 --> 00:17:07.705
  • Well, they looked identical.
  • 00:17:07.705 --> 00:17:08.973
  • So identical twins.
  • 00:17:08.973 --> 00:17:10.942
  • And i looked at her
  • 00:17:10.942 --> 00:17:12.510
  • And she had on a wig.
  • 00:17:12.510 --> 00:17:14.579
  • Well, i don't know if it's a wig, but her hair was done.
  • 00:17:14.579 --> 00:17:16.614
  • She had a makeup and i looked at her and said,
  • 00:17:16.614 --> 00:17:19.717
  • You're not saved.
  • 00:17:19.717 --> 00:17:22.153
  • That's the first thing i said to her.
  • 00:17:22.153 --> 00:17:24.222
  • She said, oh yeah, i'm saved.
  • 00:17:24.222 --> 00:17:26.691
  • I said, no because you got on makeup and pants,
  • 00:17:26.691 --> 00:17:31.062
  • Because that's where we come from.
  • 00:17:31.062 --> 00:17:32.630
  • Sure.
  • 00:17:32.630 --> 00:17:33.598
  • And they sang and i sang every song.
  • 00:17:33.598 --> 00:17:36.501
  • And all of my friends are wondering about the change...
  • 00:17:36.501 --> 00:17:40.505
  • I'm just singing everything.
  • 00:17:40.505 --> 00:17:43.007
  • And then the concert ended.
  • 00:17:43.007 --> 00:17:45.176
  • He went into the pastor's office, and i said, mommy, he
  • 00:17:45.176 --> 00:17:49.113
  • Went into the pastor's office. can i just say something?
  • 00:17:49.113 --> 00:17:51.449
  • She said, no, you got to go to school tomorrow.
  • 00:17:51.449 --> 00:17:53.651
  • You have to go to school tomorrow.
  • 00:17:53.651 --> 00:17:55.119
  • And i said, oh, no, i promise
  • 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:56.387
  • I'm going to go, like i had a choice.
  • 00:17:56.387 --> 00:17:58.022
  • I promise i'm going to go.
  • 00:17:58.022 --> 00:18:00.191
  • And she saw something and she said, okay, but just a few
  • 00:18:00.191 --> 00:18:04.128
  • Minutes and they turn all the lights off in the church except
  • 00:18:04.128 --> 00:18:08.199
  • For the one light over the pulpit.
  • 00:18:08.199 --> 00:18:09.934
  • And i'm sitting at the pastor's door.
  • 00:18:09.934 --> 00:18:12.970
  • The door opens and andre comes out with the pastor's son.
  • 00:18:12.970 --> 00:18:16.340
  • And he says-- i'm going to try not to cry.
  • 00:18:16.340 --> 00:18:19.443
  • He says, hey, little guy, uh, what are you doing here?
  • 00:18:19.443 --> 00:18:23.147
  • I said, i'm waiting for you.
  • 00:18:23.147 --> 00:18:24.882
  • He said, what's your name? said donnie.
  • 00:18:24.882 --> 00:18:26.417
  • He said, my name is andre. i said, i know.
  • 00:18:26.417 --> 00:18:28.686
  • And he does not go into the music.
  • 00:18:28.686 --> 00:18:31.355
  • He goes straight into evangelism.
  • 00:18:31.355 --> 00:18:34.158
  • Are you born again? he's talking to an 11 year old.
  • 00:18:34.158 --> 00:18:38.095
  • Are you? i said yes.
  • 00:18:38.095 --> 00:18:39.530
  • He said i was born again at nine years old.
  • 00:18:39.530 --> 00:18:41.499
  • I said, me too.
  • 00:18:41.499 --> 00:18:43.267
  • He said, well, do you sing? do you play?
  • 00:18:43.267 --> 00:18:44.735
  • I said, no.
  • 00:18:44.735 --> 00:18:45.770
  • He said, i didn't sing a play until i was 11.
  • 00:18:45.770 --> 00:18:47.538
  • And my father laid his hands on me and prayed.
  • 00:18:47.538 --> 00:18:50.808
  • I said, i'm 11.
  • 00:18:50.808 --> 00:18:52.476
  • I said, but my father can't pray for me because he's not
  • 00:18:52.476 --> 00:18:54.879
  • Born again.
  • 00:18:54.879 --> 00:18:56.480
  • And andre said, do you mind if i pray for you?
  • 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.618
  • He's talking to an 11 year old.
  • 00:19:00.618 --> 00:19:03.120
  • And he laid his hand on my head, and he prayed this prayer
  • 00:19:03.120 --> 00:19:06.657
  • And said, god, give him what you gave to me. patted my face
  • 00:19:06.657 --> 00:19:11.596
  • And walked away.
  • 00:19:11.596 --> 00:19:12.964
  • And that's where the music was infused in me.
  • 00:19:12.964 --> 00:19:15.866
  • On that october day in 1971.
  • 00:19:15.866 --> 00:19:20.338
  • And then i would watch television and the music
  • 00:19:20.338 --> 00:19:22.707
  • Would come to me.
  • 00:19:22.707 --> 00:19:24.408
  • I'd be watching mary tyler moore and sit down and play
  • 00:19:24.408 --> 00:19:27.511
  • The theme song.
  • 00:19:27.511 --> 00:19:29.146
  • I would watch the sitcoms and play the theme song.
  • 00:19:29.146 --> 00:19:32.016
  • It would just come to me.
  • 00:19:32.016 --> 00:19:33.784
  • And god just started to grow this thing in me.
  • 00:19:33.784 --> 00:19:37.722
  • Based on that one encounter with andre. and pastor winans
  • 00:19:37.722 --> 00:19:42.260
  • Always taught this,
  • 00:19:42.260 --> 00:19:43.461
  • He said, if the anointing is genuine, it's two things.
  • 00:19:43.461 --> 00:19:46.697
  • It's tangible and transferrable.
  • 00:19:46.697 --> 00:19:50.268
  • If it's genuine, it's tangible and it's transferable.
  • 00:19:50.268 --> 00:19:55.106
  • He transferred what god gave to
  • 00:19:55.106 --> 00:19:57.508
  • Him, just like elijah did with elisha.
  • 00:19:57.508 --> 00:19:59.677
  • Just like elijah did with elisha.
  • 00:20:02.747 --> 00:20:05.116
  • He transferred that in one moment.
  • 00:20:05.116 --> 00:20:08.753
  • You don't understand what destiny can happen in one
  • 00:20:08.753 --> 00:20:13.190
  • Moment's time. thank you lord.
  • 00:20:13.190 --> 00:20:15.026
  • If you're in the right place, following god at the right
  • 00:20:15.026 --> 00:20:17.395
  • Time, your destiny can be in a moment.
  • 00:20:17.395 --> 00:20:20.665
  • Hmm. and my destiny was in that.
  • 00:20:20.665 --> 00:20:22.900
  • Had we not gone to that concert,
  • 00:20:22.900 --> 00:20:25.036
  • It's a wonder in my soul.
  • 00:20:25.036 --> 00:20:28.939
  • Had we not gone to that concert,
  • 00:20:27.271 --> 00:20:32.043
  • I would have missed the moment.
  • 00:20:32.043 --> 00:20:33.844
  • I would have missed an opportunity.
  • 00:20:33.844 --> 00:20:35.780
  • But because of that, i've circled the globe
  • 00:20:35.780 --> 00:20:39.150
  • Because of my encounter with andre.
  • 00:20:39.150 --> 00:20:41.585
  • And what was, um, iconic at first became a
  • 00:20:41.585 --> 00:20:47.591
  • Friendship, and then it became family until the point of him
  • 00:20:47.591 --> 00:20:53.497
  • Going to heaven.
  • 00:20:53.497 --> 00:20:55.066
  • I was one of the last ones he saw going to heaven.
  • 00:20:55.066 --> 00:20:57.301
  • Hmm.
  • 00:20:57.301 --> 00:20:59.070
  • What if this moment is a transferable moment?
  • 00:20:59.070 --> 00:21:02.006
  • What if you, andre, had to do it one on one?
  • 00:21:02.006 --> 00:21:04.975
  • What if you're capable of doing
  • 00:21:04.975 --> 00:21:06.711
  • One to many that are viewing tonight?
  • 00:21:06.711 --> 00:21:10.448
  • Donnie, you're of the age, that transferable--
  • 00:21:10.448 --> 00:21:14.118
  • Look into the camera and tell them anybody anything that's on
  • 00:21:14.118 --> 00:21:17.822
  • Your heart right now.
  • 00:21:17.822 --> 00:21:19.623
  • Well, even before i do that,
  • 00:21:19.623 --> 00:21:22.560
  • This whole thing that we're doing, this whole recording,
  • 00:21:22.560 --> 00:21:25.996
  • There are 28 people from different cities and states
  • 00:21:25.996 --> 00:21:30.935
  • That are coming in to be a part of the choir.
  • 00:21:30.935 --> 00:21:34.205
  • Most of them have never met before.
  • 00:21:34.205 --> 00:21:36.006
  • Oh my goodness. never met them.
  • 00:21:36.006 --> 00:21:37.675
  • I put out an apb and said, you know, this is my last thing.
  • 00:21:37.675 --> 00:21:41.912
  • And i prayed over the ones to
  • 00:21:41.912 --> 00:21:44.415
  • Choose that sent in their videos.
  • 00:21:44.415 --> 00:21:46.851
  • I prayed over them and chose them based on the holy spirit,
  • 00:21:46.851 --> 00:21:49.587
  • Because there's an impartation that they're going to receive
  • 00:21:49.587 --> 00:21:53.057
  • From this.
  • 00:21:53.057 --> 00:21:54.859
  • There is a passing on of the baton.
  • 00:21:54.859 --> 00:21:57.294
  • There is that transference.
  • 00:21:57.294 --> 00:21:59.430
  • And these people i really prayed over, and god gave them
  • 00:21:59.430 --> 00:22:03.334
  • To be a part of this as a finality.
  • 00:22:03.334 --> 00:22:06.604
  • And then they're going to have to take it from there and go
  • 00:22:06.604 --> 00:22:09.540
  • Into their destiny with it.
  • 00:22:09.540 --> 00:22:11.542
  • But to anyone that's watching, you know, literally as i sit
  • 00:22:11.542 --> 00:22:16.647
  • Here, i am a byproduct of an anointing that was on
  • 00:22:16.647 --> 00:22:20.918
  • Somebody for me.
  • 00:22:20.918 --> 00:22:22.720
  • The anointing was on andre, but it wasn't for andre.
  • 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.756
  • The anointing was on him to transfer it to me.
  • 00:22:25.756 --> 00:22:29.160
  • If you are anointed at all, it's not for you.
  • 00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.763
  • It's for someone else.
  • 00:22:32.763 --> 00:22:34.532
  • For that, anointing destroys yokes.
  • 00:22:34.532 --> 00:22:37.401
  • It literally empowers you
  • 00:22:37.401 --> 00:22:39.403
  • And gives you preparation for your destiny.
  • 00:22:39.403 --> 00:22:42.406
  • And i speak to every one of you tonight, every one of you that
  • 00:22:42.406 --> 00:22:45.576
  • Are watching, no matter what time of day it is, this
  • 00:22:45.576 --> 00:22:48.546
  • Anointing that is on your life is for somebody else,
  • 00:22:48.546 --> 00:22:51.649
  • Just like what's on me right now is for those of you that
  • 00:22:51.649 --> 00:22:54.785
  • Will attach it.
  • 00:22:54.785 --> 00:22:56.654
  • We used to say in our church, put a demand on the anointing.
  • 00:22:56.654 --> 00:23:00.324
  • When you're sitting with someone who's carrying the
  • 00:23:00.324 --> 00:23:02.092
  • Anointing, make a demand just like elisha did with elijah.
  • 00:23:02.092 --> 00:23:06.997
  • And elijah said, stay here while i go to gilgal.
  • 00:23:06.997 --> 00:23:10.167
  • And elisha said, as god lives and as my soul lives, i will
  • 00:23:10.167 --> 00:23:13.637
  • Not leave you, because you've got what i need.
  • 00:23:13.637 --> 00:23:17.341
  • And that's what this anointing is all about.
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  • And i pray that the transfer would be true and genuine, and
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  • That you would walk under the power of the anointing of god
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  • For somebody else that you're
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  • Going to encounter in jesus' name.
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  • Beautiful. what do you believe can
  • 00:23:31.922 --> 00:23:33.924
  • Happen while people are watching this special
  • 00:23:33.924 --> 00:23:37.761
  • During this music?
  • 00:23:37.761 --> 00:23:39.063
  • What kind of things can god do in the lives of people during
  • 00:23:39.063 --> 00:23:42.900
  • This broadcast?
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  • The same thing that he did for me.
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  • But this in this era, he uses all of the technology that you
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  • All have gained and amassed.
  • 00:23:51.909 --> 00:23:53.944
  • He uses the technology and the
  • 00:23:53.944 --> 00:23:55.946
  • Power of god is so sweet and so beautiful.
  • 00:23:55.946 --> 00:23:59.049
  • It goes through the airwaves and the same potency as it
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  • Would be in face to face and in person,
  • 00:24:02.520 --> 00:24:04.722
  • It is the same power and potency that they can
  • 00:24:04.722 --> 00:24:08.792
  • Receive and do receive by turning on their television,
  • 00:24:08.792 --> 00:24:12.329
  • Turning on their device and watching it.
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  • That is the greatness of our god.
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  • The greatness of god is
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  • He is not bound by distance and he's not bound because of
  • 00:24:18.802 --> 00:24:21.872
  • Technological, technological situations.
  • 00:24:21.872 --> 00:24:24.375
  • He rides the airwaves, he rides on the airwaves, and he meets
  • 00:24:24.375 --> 00:24:28.879
  • You right where you are.
  • 00:24:28.879 --> 00:24:30.481
  • And that's the reason why everybody turns the television
  • 00:24:30.481 --> 00:24:32.816
  • On so that they can receive this thing.
  • 00:24:32.816 --> 00:24:34.752
  • So when they see this and hear the music and the power of god
  • 00:24:34.752 --> 00:24:39.256
  • Moves, they will be impacted to the same degree as everyone
  • 00:24:39.256 --> 00:24:43.460
  • That sits and hears it in person.
  • 00:24:43.460 --> 00:24:46.130
  • What is it about music that just moves us so much?
  • 00:24:46.130 --> 00:24:53.037
  • I mean, i was raised
  • 00:24:53.037 --> 00:24:55.639
  • Not much differently than you were. my dad,
  • 00:24:55.639 --> 00:24:58.909
  • Tramaine hawkins-- was a music guy.
  • 00:24:58.909 --> 00:25:00.477
  • Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:25:00.477 --> 00:25:01.712
  • And andre, i mean, we went every time the disciples, andre
  • 00:25:01.712 --> 00:25:05.349
  • And the disciples would come to tucson or phoenix,
  • 00:25:05.349 --> 00:25:08.085
  • My dad, we would go and we had every every cassette, every
  • 00:25:08.085 --> 00:25:12.890
  • Eight track, everything.
  • 00:25:12.890 --> 00:25:14.224
  • And my dad loved that music, you know, and he was
  • 00:25:14.224 --> 00:25:17.861
  • Such a bridge, you know, and it was just so beautiful.
  • 00:25:17.861 --> 00:25:21.765
  • But god has always used music for me personally.
  • 00:25:21.765 --> 00:25:27.605
  • It moves me like hardly anything.
  • 00:25:27.605 --> 00:25:31.909
  • She's a beautiful piano player, by the way.
  • 00:25:31.909 --> 00:25:33.711
  • No one knows that.
  • 00:25:33.711 --> 00:25:34.778
  • But she literally is a beautiful piano player.
  • 00:25:34.778 --> 00:25:36.914
  • All this time knowing you
  • 00:25:36.914 --> 00:25:38.015
  • And this is the first time i'm hearing.
  • 00:25:38.015 --> 00:25:39.183
  • Beautiful piano player. he's my husband.
  • 00:25:39.183 --> 00:25:42.453
  • He loves everything i do. honestly.
  • 00:25:42.453 --> 00:25:45.389
  • But, um--
  • 00:25:45.389 --> 00:25:47.291
  • Well, you play the piano. you don't even cook, so--
  • 00:25:47.291 --> 00:25:49.560
  • I mean, you don't cook at all,
  • 00:25:49.560 --> 00:25:51.095
  • So it's not like you don't cook good.
  • 00:25:51.095 --> 00:25:53.297
  • You don't. you literally
  • 00:25:53.297 --> 00:25:55.666
  • Don't cook.
  • 00:25:55.666 --> 00:25:57.835
  • But it's such a beautiful-- and, you know, just to sit and
  • 00:25:57.835 --> 00:26:04.074
  • Listen to music and listen to worship takes my my soul and my
  • 00:26:04.074 --> 00:26:11.081
  • Heart and my thoughts, renews my mind.
  • 00:26:11.081 --> 00:26:14.518
  • It's healing.
  • 00:26:14.518 --> 00:26:16.053
  • It's all of that.
  • 00:26:16.053 --> 00:26:17.621
  • It's such a beautiful gift from god.
  • 00:26:17.621 --> 00:26:20.090
  • There's a quote from a poet, said music soothes
  • 00:26:20.090 --> 00:26:25.329
  • The savage breast.
  • 00:26:25.329 --> 00:26:27.264
  • Music has a way of
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  • Breaching every barrier.
  • 00:26:30.334 --> 00:26:32.469
  • Music has a way of sinking deep into the heart of the most
  • 00:26:32.469 --> 00:26:35.472
  • Hardened heart.
  • 00:26:35.472 --> 00:26:36.807
  • Music causes arguments to cease.
  • 00:26:36.807 --> 00:26:40.010
  • Music causes disputes to end.
  • 00:26:40.010 --> 00:26:42.513
  • Music is so divine.
  • 00:26:42.513 --> 00:26:45.282
  • I heard from god one year and the lord gave me a revelation.
  • 00:26:45.282 --> 00:26:50.087
  • He said, if jesus sat down at a piano, he would play better
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  • Than any musician that ever played.
  • 00:26:54.892 --> 00:26:58.028
  • If he stood behind a microphone
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  • And sang, he would outsing cc winans
  • 00:26:59.530 --> 00:27:03.567
  • And i said that cece. i meant what i said.
  • 00:27:03.567 --> 00:27:06.603
  • And and-- and that's good.
  • 00:27:06.603 --> 00:27:09.239
  • And that is, that is the power of music.
  • 00:27:09.239 --> 00:27:12.342
  • That's the reason why the enemy tries to utilize music to
  • 00:27:12.342 --> 00:27:16.246
  • Corrupt the people, because music sinks into the heart of
  • 00:27:16.246 --> 00:27:19.149
  • People, and the music that we have is not soul music,
  • 00:27:19.149 --> 00:27:23.320
  • It's spirit music.
  • 00:27:23.320 --> 00:27:25.155
  • It deals with the spirit of a
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  • Man and gives him god consciousness.
  • 00:27:26.623 --> 00:27:29.093
  • When i can go to an award show, a secular award show, and be
  • 00:27:29.093 --> 00:27:33.497
  • The only gospel artist on the award show, and every artist
  • 00:27:33.497 --> 00:27:37.634
  • Gets up with all of their flailings and with all their
  • 00:27:37.634 --> 00:27:40.003
  • Different ideologies, ideologies in their music
  • 00:27:40.003 --> 00:27:43.707
  • Without being vulgar.
  • 00:27:43.707 --> 00:27:45.642
  • And i can stand there in the middle of all of this and sing
  • 00:27:45.642 --> 00:27:50.247
  • A song and see them break down, because music can break through
  • 00:27:50.247 --> 00:27:56.386
  • All of that satanic
  • 00:27:56.386 --> 00:28:00.023
  • Stuff that's put up.
  • 00:28:00.023 --> 00:28:01.425
  • I told you once before, i was at an award show and i was
  • 00:28:01.425 --> 00:28:06.063
  • Singing a song, stand.
  • 00:28:06.063 --> 00:28:09.500
  • And, well, it was me and patti labelle.
  • 00:28:09.500 --> 00:28:13.437
  • That's another story altogether.
  • 00:28:13.437 --> 00:28:15.072
  • But-- and snoop was-- well, destiny's child was here.
  • 00:28:15.072 --> 00:28:21.612
  • Beyoncé, michelle, kelly and snoop
  • 00:28:21.612 --> 00:28:26.150
  • Was right behind them.
  • 00:28:26.150 --> 00:28:27.417
  • And i started singing and all you heard was--
  • 00:28:27.417 --> 00:28:32.089
  • And he buckled down and he started weeping.
  • 00:28:32.089 --> 00:28:36.727
  • Cameras tried to get over to him, and his fellows wouldn't
  • 00:28:36.727 --> 00:28:38.529
  • Let-- his guys wouldn't let the cameras get to him.
  • 00:28:38.529 --> 00:28:41.465
  • And at the end, he came and backstage and said, you know,
  • 00:28:41.465 --> 00:28:46.170
  • My grandmother always told me that if i wasn't doing this, i
  • 00:28:46.170 --> 00:28:48.338
  • Was called to be a preacher.
  • 00:28:48.338 --> 00:28:50.607
  • And you've got situations like that. music does that.
  • 00:28:50.607 --> 00:28:53.477
  • I would never have been able to reach them in any other way
  • 00:28:53.477 --> 00:28:57.181
  • Other than music.
  • 00:28:57.181 --> 00:28:58.649
  • The reason that that happens, though, donnie, let's be
  • 00:28:58.649 --> 00:29:02.419
  • Honest, is because, you know, this this album that you're
  • 00:29:02.419 --> 00:29:05.656
  • Doing and the music that you gave your life to all these
  • 00:29:05.656 --> 00:29:10.227
  • Years is called gospel music.
  • 00:29:10.227 --> 00:29:12.596
  • This album is entitled finally, but the subtitle is bringing
  • 00:29:12.596 --> 00:29:17.334
  • The gospel back to gospel music.
  • 00:29:17.334 --> 00:29:20.671
  • The gospel is good news. yes.
  • 00:29:20.671 --> 00:29:22.673
  • When you lift up the name of jesus and the good news of the
  • 00:29:22.673 --> 00:29:26.977
  • Redemption that we have back to god through jesus,
  • 00:29:26.977 --> 00:29:31.081
  • That's what does it.
  • 00:29:31.081 --> 00:29:32.716
  • So thank you for bringing the gospel back to gospel music,
  • 00:29:32.716 --> 00:29:39.089
  • And hit us with another one of the songs you wrote.
  • 00:29:39.089 --> 00:29:42.125
  • What's another song that we're going to be kind of
  • 00:29:42.125 --> 00:29:46.063
  • Experiencing here?
  • 00:29:46.063 --> 00:29:46.997
  • Something you wrote?
  • 00:29:46.997 --> 00:29:48.031
  • Where were you when you when you experienced it?
  • 00:29:48.031 --> 00:29:51.001
  • Well, the song that i wrote for tramaine--
  • 00:29:51.001 --> 00:29:54.371
  • Now, this is my first time getting to write a song on
  • 00:29:54.371 --> 00:29:57.808
  • For tramaine hawkins. got it.
  • 00:29:57.808 --> 00:30:00.110
  • Now she, her and her husband walter,
  • 00:30:00.110 --> 00:30:03.180
  • We were really close.
  • 00:30:03.180 --> 00:30:04.748
  • And her brother in law, edwin
  • 00:30:04.748 --> 00:30:06.116
  • Hawkins, who wrote oh, happy day.
  • 00:30:06.116 --> 00:30:08.819
  • He wrote oh, happy day.
  • 00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:09.786
  • It feels like i've heard that song before.
  • 00:30:09.786 --> 00:30:11.889
  • Yeah, maybe 1 or 2 times.
  • 00:30:11.889 --> 00:30:13.123
  • It's a little ditty somewhere. yeah.
  • 00:30:13.123 --> 00:30:14.925
  • And, um, this is my first time writing a song for her.
  • 00:30:14.925 --> 00:30:18.395
  • I've sung with her throughout the years, and i wrote a song
  • 00:30:18.395 --> 00:30:21.732
  • That said [sings] lord, i'm lifting up my hands to you,
  • 00:30:21.732 --> 00:30:25.302
  • ♪ but this time it's not to ♪
  • 00:30:25.302 --> 00:30:26.937
  • ♪ receive, but to give you all my love ♪
  • 00:30:26.937 --> 00:30:30.507
  • ♪ because i love you ♪
  • 00:30:30.507 --> 00:30:32.142
  • ♪ you're the one i trust and believe ♪
  • 00:30:32.142 --> 00:30:36.046
  • ♪ others have tried to help me ♪
  • 00:30:36.046 --> 00:30:38.782
  • ♪ but their help couldn't do what you do ♪
  • 00:30:38.782 --> 00:30:42.686
  • ♪ so i surrender my life to you ♪
  • 00:30:42.686 --> 00:30:47.124
  • ♪ you're the one who brought me through lord ♪
  • 00:30:47.124 --> 00:30:50.460
  • ♪ and says, lord, you, ♪
  • 00:30:50.460 --> 00:30:54.698
  • ♪ you you're all that i need ♪
  • 00:30:54.698 --> 00:30:57.601
  • ♪ lord, you are all that i need ♪
  • 00:30:57.601 --> 00:31:02.239
  • ♪ oh, lord, oh, lord ♪
  • 00:31:02.239 --> 00:31:06.109
  • ♪ you are, you are ♪
  • 00:31:06.109 --> 00:31:08.812
  • ♪ you're all that i need ♪
  • 00:31:08.812 --> 00:31:10.547
  • ♪ lord, you ♪
  • 00:31:10.547 --> 00:31:11.748
  • And to hear her sing this,
  • 00:31:11.748 --> 00:31:14.651
  • I'm gonna probably be laid out on the floor.
  • 00:31:14.651 --> 00:31:17.554
  • That's right.
  • 00:31:17.554 --> 00:31:18.789
  • Just make sure the cameras don't hit me, because i'm gonna
  • 00:31:18.789 --> 00:31:20.924
  • Be screaming, laying out on the floor.
  • 00:31:20.924 --> 00:31:23.193
  • And tremaine's voice after all these years has not changed.
  • 00:31:23.193 --> 00:31:28.732
  • Mhm. now she is, um,
  • 00:31:28.732 --> 00:31:33.136
  • She's elder.
  • 00:31:33.136 --> 00:31:34.304
  • She's older than she was before without saying how old
  • 00:31:34.304 --> 00:31:37.474
  • She is, but her beauty hasn't
  • 00:31:37.474 --> 00:31:41.044
  • Faded and her voice has not changed.
  • 00:31:41.044 --> 00:31:43.480
  • Mhm.
  • 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:44.448
  • And the anointing on her life is amazing.
  • 00:31:44.448 --> 00:31:47.851
  • So it's going to be, this is going to be really, um
  • 00:31:47.851 --> 00:31:52.689
  • A landmark project for me.
  • 00:31:52.689 --> 00:31:56.126
  • ♪ so i surrender my life to you ♪
  • 00:31:56.126 --> 00:32:01.732
  • ♪ jesus, you brought me through, lord ♪
  • 00:32:01.732 --> 00:32:09.106
  • ♪ lord, you, ♪
  • 00:32:09.106 --> 00:32:12.342
  • ♪ you're all that i need, lord ♪
  • 00:32:12.342 --> 00:32:14.811
  • ♪ you are all that i need, lord ♪
  • 00:32:14.811 --> 00:32:22.285
  • ♪ you are ♪
  • 00:32:22.285 --> 00:32:25.022
  • ♪ you're all that i need ♪
  • 00:32:24.021 --> 00:32:27.290
  • ♪ you are all that i need ♪
  • 00:32:27.290 --> 00:32:31.928
  • ♪ you're a friend ♪
  • 00:32:31.928 --> 00:32:35.399
  • ♪ that sticks closer than a brother ♪
  • 00:32:35.399 --> 00:32:38.135
  • ♪ you are ♪
  • 00:32:38.135 --> 00:32:41.004
  • ♪ all i need ♪
  • 00:32:41.004 --> 00:32:44.374
  • And it's called finally.
  • 00:32:44.374 --> 00:32:45.409
  • We're here in nashville, tennessee.
  • 00:32:45.409 --> 00:32:47.177
  • Donnie mcclurkin.
  • 00:32:47.177 --> 00:32:48.311
  • We wanted to kind of
  • 00:32:48.311 --> 00:32:52.549
  • Make it a little bit, you know, not quite as loud in here so
  • 00:32:52.549 --> 00:32:56.953
  • That we could get to know the heart of this music,
  • 00:32:56.953 --> 00:33:01.324
  • This album specifically.
  • 00:33:01.324 --> 00:33:04.061
  • What a beautiful atmosphere that you're creating in this
  • 00:33:04.061 --> 00:33:08.899
  • Location that has been saturated over all these years
  • 00:33:08.899 --> 00:33:13.470
  • With so many services.
  • 00:33:13.470 --> 00:33:15.739
  • I think of kim clement now in
  • 00:33:15.739 --> 00:33:18.909
  • Heaven, doing many, many, many services.
  • 00:33:18.909 --> 00:33:22.546
  • You know, there's a-- it feels like you you get in your social
  • 00:33:22.546 --> 00:33:27.017
  • Media feed more about kim clement today than when he was
  • 00:33:27.017 --> 00:33:30.754
  • Alive, you know, and there's a clip circulating that, you
  • 00:33:30.754 --> 00:33:34.925
  • Know, trinity will have different expressions,
  • 00:33:34.925 --> 00:33:37.360
  • Different networks.
  • 00:33:37.360 --> 00:33:39.029
  • Uh, we'll have a, a channel for the youth and, and it'll have a
  • 00:33:39.029 --> 00:33:43.200
  • Different name.
  • 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.134
  • And, you know, all of,
  • 00:33:44.134 --> 00:33:45.669
  • You know, it feels like we've been hearing--
  • 00:33:45.669 --> 00:33:47.671
  • And that all happened-- yeah.
  • 00:33:47.671 --> 00:33:49.673
  • 15 feet from where we're sitting right here in this building.
  • 00:33:49.673 --> 00:33:52.576
  • This building has been saturated with the prophetic
  • 00:33:52.576 --> 00:33:56.213
  • Word of the lord, with ministry, with anointing that--
  • 00:33:56.213 --> 00:34:00.317
  • It exists here.
  • 00:34:00.317 --> 00:34:01.585
  • You're adding to that legacy with this amazing project that
  • 00:34:01.585 --> 00:34:06.356
  • You're doing.
  • 00:34:06.356 --> 00:34:07.624
  • And what an interesting title,
  • 00:34:07.624 --> 00:34:10.160
  • Finally, uh, donnie mcclurkin, and bringing gospel back
  • 00:34:10.160 --> 00:34:14.231
  • To gospel music.
  • 00:34:14.231 --> 00:34:15.532
  • So give us kind of your thoughts on what you're doing
  • 00:34:15.532 --> 00:34:19.736
  • Here, what this means.
  • 00:34:19.736 --> 00:34:21.271
  • If somebody just tuned in, you know, you're feeling like this
  • 00:34:21.271 --> 00:34:24.608
  • Might be your final recording.
  • 00:34:24.608 --> 00:34:26.810
  • It's not the end of his singing.
  • 00:34:26.810 --> 00:34:29.179
  • Let me just say that. final recording.
  • 00:34:29.179 --> 00:34:30.914
  • That's a-- he explained.
  • 00:34:30.914 --> 00:34:32.549
  • Yeah, i know, i know, but it kind of hurts my heart when
  • 00:34:32.549 --> 00:34:35.752
  • He says, this is the last.
  • 00:34:35.752 --> 00:34:37.988
  • So i just--
  • 00:34:37.988 --> 00:34:39.456
  • Said it a little fatalistically. you could say it a little
  • 00:34:39.456 --> 00:34:41.825
  • Happier when you say it
  • 00:34:41.825 --> 00:34:42.993
  • This time. he's not finishing.
  • 00:34:42.993 --> 00:34:44.761
  • Before i go to the
  • 00:34:44.761 --> 00:34:46.096
  • Upper room. he's not--
  • 00:34:46.096 --> 00:34:48.932
  • You're not stopping singing.
  • 00:34:48.932 --> 00:34:50.834
  • Then give us one of your --
  • 00:34:50.834 --> 00:34:52.502
  • Give us, give us a little bit of one or more of your songs,
  • 00:34:52.502 --> 00:34:55.105
  • But give us kind of-- just set the stage a little bit--
  • 00:34:55.105 --> 00:34:57.674
  • Somebody coming. in case somebody tuned in, you know,
  • 00:34:57.674 --> 00:35:00.377
  • A little bit late.
  • 00:35:00.377 --> 00:35:01.411
  • You're there, you know, thinking we're at your
  • 00:35:01.411 --> 00:35:03.880
  • Funeral or something. come on now.
  • 00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:05.382
  • No, no, no, no, i'm not going to have a funeral.
  • 00:35:05.382 --> 00:35:07.150
  • Um, i've decided i'm going to live forever.
  • 00:35:07.150 --> 00:35:09.886
  • Got it. but this is, um--
  • 00:35:09.886 --> 00:35:13.723
  • You know, i never thought that
  • 00:35:13.723 --> 00:35:14.991
  • I would come to a point of closure,
  • 00:35:14.991 --> 00:35:19.095
  • Um, because, you know, gospel music, you sing until you die.
  • 00:35:19.095 --> 00:35:22.966
  • You just, gone.
  • 00:35:22.966 --> 00:35:25.101
  • I was, i was reading about mahalia jackson and how she
  • 00:35:25.101 --> 00:35:29.005
  • Sang to her very last. you know, james cleveland to
  • 00:35:29.005 --> 00:35:31.741
  • His very last. andre until his
  • 00:35:31.741 --> 00:35:34.110
  • Very last, you know, walter edwin, all of them till
  • 00:35:34.110 --> 00:35:37.647
  • Their very last. cece is one of my go to people.
  • 00:35:37.647 --> 00:35:42.619
  • And not to mention she fusses at me all the time.
  • 00:35:42.619 --> 00:35:45.555
  • But you know,
  • 00:35:45.555 --> 00:35:47.257
  • To see that we have come up listening to the same music
  • 00:35:47.257 --> 00:35:51.494
  • With the same ideology concerning music and gospel,
  • 00:35:51.494 --> 00:35:55.198
  • It's kind of surreal. now at this, at this closure, at
  • 00:35:55.198 --> 00:36:00.203
  • This point of closure,
  • 00:36:00.203 --> 00:36:02.072
  • It's time for us to realize that there are other people
  • 00:36:02.072 --> 00:36:06.243
  • That are waiting in the wings.
  • 00:36:06.243 --> 00:36:08.245
  • There are other people that are right behind us that god has to
  • 00:36:08.245 --> 00:36:12.215
  • Move some of us in order for
  • 00:36:12.215 --> 00:36:13.883
  • Them to take it to the next place.
  • 00:36:13.883 --> 00:36:15.518
  • Got it.
  • 00:36:15.518 --> 00:36:16.720
  • And at this point, pastoring the church that i pastor.
  • 00:36:16.720 --> 00:36:20.624
  • Then we started another
  • 00:36:20.624 --> 00:36:21.625
  • Ministry in my hometown of amityville.
  • 00:36:21.625 --> 00:36:24.694
  • We've got missions in jamaica.
  • 00:36:24.694 --> 00:36:26.529
  • We're building houses in jamaica.
  • 00:36:26.529 --> 00:36:28.498
  • We're building an apartment complex across the
  • 00:36:28.498 --> 00:36:31.368
  • Street from our church.
  • 00:36:31.368 --> 00:36:32.636
  • We've got brownstones in harlem that we're renovating to, to
  • 00:36:32.636 --> 00:36:36.539
  • Refurbish for housing and out of--
  • 00:36:36.539 --> 00:36:39.175
  • I'm in the next phase of
  • 00:36:39.175 --> 00:36:40.977
  • Ministry and something's got to give.
  • 00:36:40.977 --> 00:36:45.181
  • And the recording aspect has been done.
  • 00:36:45.181 --> 00:36:47.751
  • It's been-- the grammys
  • 00:36:47.751 --> 00:36:50.153
  • Are, they've already been secured.
  • 00:36:50.153 --> 00:36:52.289
  • The dove awards,
  • 00:36:52.289 --> 00:36:53.590
  • The stellar awards, the trumpet awards, the soul train awards,
  • 00:36:53.590 --> 00:36:56.926
  • The bet awards,
  • 00:36:56.926 --> 00:36:58.728
  • We've got all of these things under the belt.
  • 00:36:58.728 --> 00:37:01.865
  • Now, let the next generation take it.
  • 00:37:01.865 --> 00:37:04.868
  • And let me go into the next phase of ministry that can be
  • 00:37:04.868 --> 00:37:09.072
  • Beneficial to people that are in need.
  • 00:37:09.072 --> 00:37:11.474
  • I mean, in jamaica, in riverton city, right outside of kingston
  • 00:37:11.474 --> 00:37:16.513
  • And spanish town, we're
  • 00:37:16.513 --> 00:37:17.847
  • Literally, we built three houses.
  • 00:37:17.847 --> 00:37:19.883
  • We're building two houses a year in the most impoverished
  • 00:37:19.883 --> 00:37:23.420
  • Community that i've ever seen in jamaica.
  • 00:37:23.420 --> 00:37:27.724
  • These are the things that god has given me to do now.
  • 00:37:27.724 --> 00:37:30.694
  • And if i want to hear a donnie mcclurkin cd, i can put it in
  • 00:37:30.694 --> 00:37:36.232
  • And go on about my business.
  • 00:37:36.232 --> 00:37:38.435
  • There's no need to make another one.
  • 00:37:38.435 --> 00:37:40.270
  • And it's just time to move so that god can be glorified and
  • 00:37:40.270 --> 00:37:44.474
  • People can can see love in action.
  • 00:37:44.474 --> 00:37:48.011
  • Because charity is not just love.
  • 00:37:48.011 --> 00:37:50.013
  • It's love in action.
  • 00:37:50.013 --> 00:37:51.381
  • Tell us about one more song on this new project.
  • 00:37:51.381 --> 00:37:55.652
  • But before you do, what song have you sung that over the
  • 00:37:55.652 --> 00:38:03.026
  • Last 30 years of singing and doing what you've been doing
  • 00:38:03.026 --> 00:38:07.497
  • For 40 years, what's the biggest response you've
  • 00:38:07.497 --> 00:38:11.134
  • Received over all the years
  • 00:38:11.134 --> 00:38:12.869
  • Consistently from a donnie mcclurkin song?
  • 00:38:12.869 --> 00:38:16.406
  • If you had to go to spotify and, and, you know, see which
  • 00:38:16.406 --> 00:38:20.610
  • One had been listened to the most or what, but from your
  • 00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:23.980
  • Perspective, what did you get the most response of singing?
  • 00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:29.586
  • The song entitled stand.
  • 00:38:29.586 --> 00:38:31.755
  • Okay, give us a little bit of it here.
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  • Stand is, what do you do when you've done all you can and it
  • 00:38:33.590 --> 00:38:37.994
  • ♪ seems like it's never enough? ♪
  • 00:38:37.994 --> 00:38:40.530
  • ♪ tell me, what do you say ♪
  • 00:38:40.530 --> 00:38:41.798
  • ♪ when your friends turn away ♪
  • 00:38:41.798 --> 00:38:43.600
  • ♪ you're alone ♪
  • 00:38:43.600 --> 00:38:45.368
  • I can't sing too hard.
  • 00:38:45.368 --> 00:38:46.803
  • ♪ what do you give when you ♪
  • 00:38:46.803 --> 00:38:48.271
  • Why do i sing it so high?
  • 00:38:48.271 --> 00:38:49.439
  • Why don't i just come down?
  • 00:38:49.439 --> 00:38:50.607
  • Could you just come down?
  • 00:38:50.607 --> 00:38:51.241
  • ♪ what do you do ♪
  • 00:38:51.241 --> 00:38:52.075
  • ♪ when you've done all you can ♪
  • 00:38:52.075 --> 00:38:54.177
  • ♪ seems like it's never enough ♪
  • 00:38:54.177 --> 00:38:57.514
  • ♪ oh, tell me, what do you say ♪
  • 00:38:57.514 --> 00:39:00.383
  • ♪ when your friends turn away? ♪
  • 00:39:00.383 --> 00:39:02.652
  • ♪ you're all alone ♪
  • 00:39:02.652 --> 00:39:04.454
  • Wow.
  • 00:39:04.454 --> 00:39:05.555
  • ♪ what do you do when you've given your all ♪
  • 00:39:05.555 --> 00:39:08.858
  • ♪ and seems like you can't make it through ♪
  • 00:39:08.858 --> 00:39:11.694
  • ♪ well, you just stand, when there's nothing left to do ♪
  • 00:39:11.694 --> 00:39:15.932
  • ♪ you just stand ♪
  • 00:39:15.932 --> 00:39:17.133
  • ♪ watch the lord see you through ♪
  • 00:39:17.133 --> 00:39:19.569
  • ♪ after you've done all you can, you just stand ♪
  • 00:39:19.569 --> 00:39:24.674
  • I sang that song.
  • 00:39:24.674 --> 00:39:25.708
  • I wrote the song.
  • 00:39:25.708 --> 00:39:27.076
  • Bebe heard me sing it.
  • 00:39:27.076 --> 00:39:29.512
  • Bebe went on a cruise with maya angelou.
  • 00:39:29.512 --> 00:39:33.516
  • Maya angelou, 70th birthday cruise.
  • 00:39:33.516 --> 00:39:35.985
  • He took the track and sang it.
  • 00:39:35.985 --> 00:39:38.455
  • Oprah and maya came to him and said, bebe, that's one of the
  • 00:39:38.455 --> 00:39:42.792
  • Best songs that we've heard you sing.
  • 00:39:42.792 --> 00:39:45.328
  • And bebe says, well, i didn't write this.
  • 00:39:45.328 --> 00:39:48.331
  • And if you really want to hear it sung right, this guy named
  • 00:39:48.331 --> 00:39:51.267
  • Donnie mckirkland--
  • 00:39:51.267 --> 00:39:52.602
  • He still can't pronounce my name-- donnie mckirkland.
  • 00:39:52.602 --> 00:39:56.806
  • Now, he's my brother and still can't say my name.
  • 00:39:56.806 --> 00:40:01.010
  • And that's how i knew it was god because bebe didn't take
  • 00:40:01.010 --> 00:40:03.746
  • Credit for it. praise the lord.
  • 00:40:03.746 --> 00:40:05.114
  • Yeah, seriously.
  • 00:40:05.114 --> 00:40:06.749
  • And then i came to nashville for an award show.
  • 00:40:06.749 --> 00:40:10.920
  • I'm going through the airport to the baggage claim,
  • 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.690
  • And i hear, hey!
  • 00:40:13.690 --> 00:40:17.093
  • And i know the hey is bebe.
  • 00:40:17.093 --> 00:40:19.562
  • And i'm looking around and say, who dat say hey?
  • 00:40:19.562 --> 00:40:22.365
  • And he said, look, you don't know my voice?
  • 00:40:22.365 --> 00:40:24.567
  • And i looked down and he's sitting on the floor waiting
  • 00:40:24.567 --> 00:40:26.669
  • For his bag to come back.
  • 00:40:26.669 --> 00:40:28.137
  • He said, i just got off this cruise, man.
  • 00:40:28.137 --> 00:40:30.373
  • I need you to send oprah your cd.
  • 00:40:30.373 --> 00:40:34.143
  • And i'm saying, oh, yeah, sure. he knew--
  • 00:40:34.143 --> 00:40:36.579
  • He knew i wasn't going to do it.
  • 00:40:36.579 --> 00:40:38.681
  • So he sent it to oprah.
  • 00:40:38.681 --> 00:40:41.551
  • And i'm in the marriott hotel in nassau, bahamas, a week
  • 00:40:41.551 --> 00:40:48.224
  • Later, and the telephone rings in the hotel room and i
  • 00:40:48.224 --> 00:40:52.495
  • Pick it up and i hear the song blasting.
  • 00:40:52.495 --> 00:40:55.498
  • ♪ what do you do ♪
  • 00:40:55.498 --> 00:40:56.699
  • And i'm saying, who is this?
  • 00:40:56.699 --> 00:40:58.568
  • And the song was so loud i had to pull it from my ear.
  • 00:40:58.568 --> 00:41:01.271
  • And i said, turn it down, stupid.
  • 00:41:01.271 --> 00:41:02.972
  • I can't hear you.
  • 00:41:02.972 --> 00:41:04.741
  • Stupid, dumb. and-- stupid dumb.
  • 00:41:04.741 --> 00:41:10.179
  • And they turned it down, and i heard, donnie mcclurkin.
  • 00:41:10.179 --> 00:41:17.086
  • And i said, who is this?
  • 00:41:17.086 --> 00:41:19.656
  • Miss oprah?
  • 00:41:19.656 --> 00:41:20.456
  • She said, this oprah winfrey.
  • 00:41:20.456 --> 00:41:23.660
  • And i said, i didn't mean turn it down, stupid.
  • 00:41:23.660 --> 00:41:27.664
  • I meant turn it down, cutie, because you're so cute.
  • 00:41:27.664 --> 00:41:32.835
  • And she got behind the song. wow.
  • 00:41:32.835 --> 00:41:36.839
  • And after we did the opening of the atlantis in 1999,
  • 00:41:36.839 --> 00:41:41.210
  • The song had been out for two years, and she--
  • 00:41:41.210 --> 00:41:44.280
  • There was a blizzard that hit the midwest.
  • 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.783
  • I was living in detroit and she called and said, we're going
  • 00:41:46.783 --> 00:41:50.153
  • Down to back to atlantis.
  • 00:41:50.153 --> 00:41:52.422
  • I want you to come and i want you to sing stand like you did
  • 00:41:52.422 --> 00:41:56.225
  • At the opening.
  • 00:41:56.225 --> 00:41:57.694
  • So we all flew down and we stood on the pyramid
  • 00:41:57.694 --> 00:42:00.330
  • At the atlantis hotel.
  • 00:42:00.330 --> 00:42:02.732
  • And she said, this is my most favorite cd.
  • 00:42:02.732 --> 00:42:06.436
  • Before that happened,
  • 00:42:06.436 --> 00:42:07.870
  • Before that happened, she drove up on a golf cart and said,
  • 00:42:07.870 --> 00:42:10.640
  • Donnie, how many of these have you sold?
  • 00:42:10.640 --> 00:42:13.443
  • I said, oh man, we sold 30,000.
  • 00:42:13.443 --> 00:42:15.545
  • We're doing good.
  • 00:42:15.545 --> 00:42:17.447
  • 30,000, she said oh that's great.
  • 00:42:17.447 --> 00:42:20.116
  • And she said, this is my favorite cd with my favorite
  • 00:42:20.116 --> 00:42:23.119
  • Singer, donnie mcclurkin, and he's going to sing my favorite
  • 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.022
  • Song, stand with my friend bebe winans.
  • 00:42:26.022 --> 00:42:29.993
  • So we sang the song.
  • 00:42:29.993 --> 00:42:32.128
  • Well, maybe about 2 or 3 months later we were at 300,000.
  • 00:42:32.128 --> 00:42:37.367
  • By the time we finished, it was like over 1.9 million sold.
  • 00:42:37.367 --> 00:42:41.137
  • We had gone platinum, almost double platinum.
  • 00:42:41.137 --> 00:42:44.741
  • My goodness.
  • 00:42:44.741 --> 00:42:45.975
  • Because of that one song and that crossed every boundary
  • 00:42:45.975 --> 00:42:49.145
  • Line, and that song was the most monumental.
  • 00:42:49.145 --> 00:42:54.317
  • ♪ tell me, what do you say ♪
  • 00:42:54.317 --> 00:42:59.122
  • ♪ after you've given your all, your all ♪
  • 00:42:59.122 --> 00:43:02.792
  • ♪ it seems like you can't make it through ♪
  • 00:43:02.792 --> 00:43:06.696
  • ♪ child, you just stand ♪
  • 00:43:06.696 --> 00:43:10.967
  • ♪ when there's nothing left to do ♪
  • 00:43:10.967 --> 00:43:14.070
  • ♪ come on and stand ♪
  • 00:43:14.070 --> 00:43:17.173
  • ♪ watch the lord see you through ♪
  • 00:43:17.173 --> 00:43:21.544
  • ♪ yes, after you've done all you can ♪
  • 00:43:21.544 --> 00:43:26.816
  • ♪ you just stand ♪
  • 00:43:26.816 --> 00:43:31.721
  • You realize that song speaks
  • 00:43:31.721 --> 00:43:35.925
  • Over and over and over to people's mindset,
  • 00:43:35.925 --> 00:43:40.830
  • That god gave you that. as you were giving some of the words,
  • 00:43:40.830 --> 00:43:44.667
  • It was speaking to laurie and me
  • 00:43:44.667 --> 00:43:46.469
  • While we're sitting here right now.
  • 00:43:46.469 --> 00:43:47.937
  • Yeah. you go through so many things that people don't
  • 00:43:47.937 --> 00:43:50.673
  • Understand, that you go through times or seasons and all you
  • 00:43:50.673 --> 00:43:56.145
  • Can do is stand. stand.
  • 00:43:56.145 --> 00:44:00.116
  • And having done all--
  • 00:44:00.116 --> 00:44:01.784
  • To stand.
  • 00:44:01.784 --> 00:44:04.153
  • And that's where the song came from, from that scripture and
  • 00:44:02.852 --> 00:44:07.090
  • From some harrowing experiences. sure.
  • 00:44:07.090 --> 00:44:09.625
  • Pray for the audience that they can stand through whatever
  • 00:44:09.625 --> 00:44:12.528
  • They're going through.
  • 00:44:12.528 --> 00:44:14.897
  • This is my pleasure.
  • 00:44:14.897 --> 00:44:16.733
  • As one who've gone through storms after storm and come out
  • 00:44:16.733 --> 00:44:20.503
  • All right, as one who's weathered many different
  • 00:44:20.503 --> 00:44:23.439
  • Difficulties and thought at one time that i did not have the
  • 00:44:23.439 --> 00:44:27.910
  • Stamina or the strength to make it--
  • 00:44:27.910 --> 00:44:31.180
  • Imagine that. saved
  • 00:44:31.180 --> 00:44:32.548
  • But don't think that you have the strength to make it through
  • 00:44:32.548 --> 00:44:35.551
  • Some of the harrowing things that you go through.
  • 00:44:35.551 --> 00:44:37.920
  • That's not uncommon.
  • 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.922
  • That's a part of the human frailty.
  • 00:44:39.922 --> 00:44:42.458
  • But know this, in your weakest point,
  • 00:44:42.458 --> 00:44:45.995
  • God gives you strength.
  • 00:44:45.995 --> 00:44:47.897
  • He gives you strength in your weakness.
  • 00:44:47.897 --> 00:44:50.733
  • And you will make it through every situation
  • 00:44:50.733 --> 00:44:54.003
  • Because god is on your side.
  • 00:44:54.003 --> 00:44:56.105
  • The bible says this,
  • 00:44:56.105 --> 00:44:57.774
  • God said to jeremiah, behold, i am the lord god of all flesh.
  • 00:44:57.774 --> 00:45:03.146
  • Is there anything too hard for me?
  • 00:45:03.146 --> 00:45:06.849
  • The roughest period of your life,
  • 00:45:06.849 --> 00:45:08.985
  • God is holding you up in his hand.
  • 00:45:08.985 --> 00:45:10.787
  • And that period of of total chaos has purpose.
  • 00:45:10.787 --> 00:45:14.957
  • Thank you, lord.
  • 00:45:14.957 --> 00:45:15.691
  • And you're going to find that.
  • 00:45:15.691 --> 00:45:17.593
  • So i pray in the name of jesus that you would find strength in
  • 00:45:17.593 --> 00:45:20.363
  • Your situation,
  • 00:45:20.363 --> 00:45:21.864
  • That the promise would be greater than the
  • 00:45:21.864 --> 00:45:24.801
  • Problem, that the promise of god would be greater than
  • 00:45:24.801 --> 00:45:28.137
  • Your problem.
  • 00:45:28.137 --> 00:45:29.272
  • And that god would show you his
  • 00:45:29.272 --> 00:45:30.807
  • Strength in the middle of your struggle.
  • 00:45:30.807 --> 00:45:33.176
  • That you would see the power of god in action, and that you
  • 00:45:33.176 --> 00:45:36.712
  • Would be a byproduct of the wonderful work of god.
  • 00:45:36.712 --> 00:45:40.183
  • In the name of jesus christ,
  • 00:45:40.183 --> 00:45:42.385
  • Pull up your strength. in the name of jesus christ,
  • 00:45:42.385 --> 00:45:46.088
  • Be empowered and make your statement known that if god be
  • 00:45:46.088 --> 00:45:52.128
  • For you, who can be against you?
  • 00:45:52.128 --> 00:45:55.298
  • Stand, my brother. stand, my sister.
  • 00:45:55.298 --> 00:45:58.201
  • You've got god on your side.
  • 00:45:58.201 --> 00:45:59.468
  • He's more than the whole world against you, in jesus' name.
  • 00:45:59.468 --> 00:46:04.073
  • Now we receive that in jesus' name. we receive it glory and
  • 00:46:04.073 --> 00:46:09.045
  • I receive it.
  • 00:46:09.045 --> 00:46:10.079
  • Tbn receives it.
  • 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:11.647
  • Donnie mcclurkin receives it.
  • 00:46:11.647 --> 00:46:12.849
  • Yes, sir. pray for yourself at some point.
  • 00:46:12.849 --> 00:46:15.651
  • You know, we were at a meeting years ago in the 80s, and one
  • 00:46:15.651 --> 00:46:20.089
  • Minister after the other was falling out under the power and
  • 00:46:20.089 --> 00:46:23.593
  • And the last guy with the microphone didn't have anybody
  • 00:46:23.593 --> 00:46:26.896
  • To lay hands on him.
  • 00:46:26.896 --> 00:46:28.531
  • So he just hit himself on the
  • 00:46:28.531 --> 00:46:29.966
  • Head through the mic and fell down.
  • 00:46:29.966 --> 00:46:31.734
  • And i'm, i'm being nice by not
  • 00:46:31.734 --> 00:46:36.172
  • Giving the name.
  • 00:46:36.172 --> 00:46:37.340
  • By not giving the name.
  • 00:46:37.340 --> 00:46:41.644
  • But there was a, there was a slap on his own head, and the
  • 00:46:41.644 --> 00:46:45.915
  • Mic went one way and landed in the drum and and it was live on
  • 00:46:45.915 --> 00:46:49.919
  • Tbn and, and when we-- when i was directing, when the
  • 00:46:49.919 --> 00:46:53.723
  • Camera came back to my mom and dad who were sitting, you know,
  • 00:46:53.723 --> 00:46:58.060
  • At the convention center,
  • 00:46:58.060 --> 00:46:59.528
  • My dad's look on his face was like--
  • 00:46:59.528 --> 00:47:06.035
  • So--
  • 00:47:08.671 --> 00:47:11.607
  • Hallelujah.
  • 00:47:11.607 --> 00:47:14.076
  • Oh, god, oh, god, oh, god.
  • 00:47:14.076 --> 00:47:16.145
  • We've seen some stuff, haven't we?
  • 00:47:16.145 --> 00:47:18.414
  • Things that we see
  • 00:47:18.414 --> 00:47:19.882
  • In in our walk with
  • 00:47:19.882 --> 00:47:21.517
  • Christ. glory to god.
  • 00:47:21.517 --> 00:47:24.253
  • Okay. put a real ending on this, donnie.
  • 00:47:24.253 --> 00:47:27.056
  • And whatever song that you want to kind of talk about for
  • 00:47:27.056 --> 00:47:31.994
  • A minute. uh, you are doing one
  • 00:47:31.994 --> 00:47:34.497
  • Cover with a good friend of yours.
  • 00:47:34.497 --> 00:47:37.800
  • Uh, why don't we end with that one?
  • 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:39.468
  • That'll be a fun one.
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  • I'm doing a cover song with a good friend of ours.
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  • Yes. that by the grace of god
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  • And by the influence of one matt crouch,
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  • Um, a dream came true.
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  • Okay, a dream came true.
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  • Uh, anybody who knows me knows that i have been one of the
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  • Greatest ccm, uh, listeners.
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  • And one of the greatest names in ccm is michael w smith.
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  • Right. from--
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  • ♪ hallelujah ♪
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  • ♪ for the lord god almighty reigns♪
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  • Or ♪ sing your praise to the lord
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  • ♪ come on, everybody, stand up and sing one more hallelujah ♪
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  • I have been listening to him since he first
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  • Hit the scene. wow.
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  • With songs that he wrote for amy, songs that he wrote for
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  • Himself, kathy troccoli, the whole nine yards and you know,
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  • ♪ and a friend's a friend forever ♪
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  • ♪ if the lord's the lord of them friend will not say never ♪
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  • ♪ the welcome will not end ♪
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  • So whenever anybody would, would, would leave our church
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  • And go to another state, that
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  • Would be the song i sang to them.
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  • ♪ though it's hard to let you go in the father's hands we know ♪
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  • ♪ that a lifetime's not too long to live as friends ♪
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  • To have mike w smith to agree to sing on this project, a
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  • Song that i love because it speaks the very sentiment of
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  • My heart as one who is insecure, as one who is broken.
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  • I had physical deformities of the hands and feet that made me
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  • Always reclusive because they would mock me
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  • As a child.
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  • In school, they had names for me because of my deformations
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  • And the like, but when i heard that song, it was me.
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  • ♪ if there are millions down on their knees above the many ♪
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  • ♪ can you still hear me? ♪
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  • Man, that was it.
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  • ♪ looking for a reason ♪
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  • ♪ roaming through the night to find my place ♪
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  • ♪ in this place in this world ♪
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  • That-- i would sit and listen and cry to that song
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  • Because i was trying to find out where i belonged.
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  • Yeah. and for you all to call and say.
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  • Mike said he'll do it,
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  • And i thought we were going to do friends or something like
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  • That, because they had done place in this world with
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  • King and country,
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  • And i thought that they were going to, you know-- i think
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  • Whatever he wants to do, i'm good.
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  • And then trey called and said, mike said he thought that you
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  • Wanted to do place in this world.
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  • I'm like, you ain't got to say that twice.
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  • You ain't got to tempt me with a good thing.
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  • And that's how this whole thing came about.
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  • So the crowning and the highlight of this is going to
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  • Have-- it's going to be to have mike w. smith play, sing
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  • And for me to sing place in this world with him.
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  • ♪ looking for a reason ♪
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  • ♪ i've been roaming through the night ♪
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  • ♪ to find my place in this world ♪
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  • ♪ my place in this world ♪
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  • ♪ not a lot to lean on ♪
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  • ♪ need your light to help me find my place in this world ♪ ♪ my place in this world ♪
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  • Then i can go to heaven.
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  • I tell you, i can go see jesus.
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  • And that's because it was
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  • Identifying something. that song said
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  • Something you needed to hear. yes.
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  • Yes. you needed to find a place in this world.
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  • You needed to have that.
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  • And look at the love that god has for you to be able to
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  • Make that happen.
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  • All these years later, you get to.
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  • Finally. you get to.
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  • Finally.
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  • But do you do you realize, i mean, out of the people that i
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  • Work with, out of the people that i pastor
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  • How that is a common thought?
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  • Where do i belong? yeah.
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  • How do i--
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  • I see what you're doing, but how do i do this?
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  • And it's so far fetched to so many christians to believe that
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  • There's a great purpose for them, because they judge
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  • Themselves by other people's accomplishments, and they don't
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  • Realize the uniqueness of what god's taken them through to
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  • Become who they're supposed to be.
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  • Yeah. everybody's got their journey, and you may not want
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  • Mine because there's some prices to pay with mine.
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  • But whatever god has ordained for you, there's a place that's
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  • Been etched out.
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  • There's a niche for you,
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  • And you will find it as you follow god.
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  • He will lead you into that.
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  • So that word that's the word in the song, looking for a
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  • Reason and roaming through the
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  • Night to find my place in this world.
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  • My face in this world,
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  • There's not a lot to lean on.
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  • So i need your light to help me find that place that's been
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  • Ordained specifically for my purpose.
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  • The people that are watching this, it's not uncommon to have
  • 00:52:43.839 --> 00:52:48.210
  • That question in your mind, where do i fit?
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  • God will show you.
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  • We pray often, lord.
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  • Be a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path--
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  • Yes. as we're doing this.
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  • And, donnie, um, what hits me really hard is you've been
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  • Chosen for this time.
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  • Your voice is strong.
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  • Your voice is genuine.
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  • Your voice is authentic.
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  • Spent the day with you now, a lot of it on camera.
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  • And i love the tone that is coming out of you.
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  • This is the right time, donnie.
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  • This is the right place.
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  • This is the right season.
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  • I have a sense inside of me that us being here to get to
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  • Experience you and to bring this whole thing to our
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  • Audience is a god ordained, right place, right time
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  • For the right reason.
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  • I'm hearing that kind of kim clement voice who did dozens of
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  • Meetings inside this room that were in here, that you're at
  • 00:53:57.513 --> 00:54:01.050
  • The right place for the right time, for the right reason, and
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  • You're even in the right season.
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  • Your voice is matured to, to to be very important to a global
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  • Audience that are going to get to see what you're doing.
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  • Thank you.
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  • The good, the bad, the ugly all adds up to a tone of a voice
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  • That is a sweet smelling savor.
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  • And it is right.
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  • And we're here at the right place at the right time
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  • Getting to listen to the right music.
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  • Thank you, donnie mcclurkin.
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  • Thank you all.
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  • Thank you, thank tbn.
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  • Thank god, thank god for
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  • Everything that you all have represented.
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  • Final word is yours.
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  • I have no final words.
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  • The only thing that i can tell
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  • You is that it's been a great journey.
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  • It has been a great journey indeed.
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  • And i'm not going to heaven
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  • Yet, but i'm going there one day.
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  • But it's been a great experience.
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  • And for the time that i've got left and, and the
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  • Musicality and the ministry that i've got left, it's going
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  • To be to bring christ back into the center and for me to
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  • Hide behind the cross.
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  • Less of me. more of him.
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  • ♪♪
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