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Ed Rush: Faith Beyond Your Mistakes | Praise

September 23, 2025 | 55:52

Matt and Laurie Crouch sit down with Ed Rush to discuss his new book, God Talks: Even If You’ve Made A Million Mistakes. In this heartfelt conversation, Ed shares personal stories of faith, redemption, and the ways God speaks to us even through our failures.

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Praise | Ed Rush: Faith Beyond Your Mistakes | Praise | September 23, 2025

Male announcer: coming up tonight on "praise."
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Ed rush: counselor goes, "now i want you to ask god
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What's true?"
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And i asked god what is true.
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He says, "you've never been alone.
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I've always been with you and i love you and i'm proud of you,"
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And he snaps me back into that memory.
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I look over here and jesus is standing right next to me
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Picking up the papers with me.
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I thought it was amazing.
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God actually rewrote the whole memory with the true version.
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It's okay, i don't normally get through that story without
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Crying either.
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I asked god that morning for a dispensation on his rule.
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I said, "lord, if you wouldn't mind talking to some of these
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People today, that would be really great."
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Three minutes later, there are people literally weeping.
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A single word from the lord can change everything.
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If i can teach an atheist to hear clearly the voice of god, i
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Can teach you too.
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It's actually not even that hard.
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♪♪♪
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Announcer: tonight on "praise" from los angeles, decorated
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Fighter pilot, best-selling author and leadership expert
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Ed rush.
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♪♪♪
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Announcer: and now your hosts, matt and laurie crouch.
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Matt crouch: welcome to "praise," ed rush, for one hour
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We're gonna hear about a fighter pilot, a marine corps fighter
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Pilot, who talks to god, okay?
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So, this book was given to my attention, and we have a couple
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Of common friends, "how to have a friendship with god:
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God talks."
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I would largely argue that is there anything more important
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After salvation than knowing god wants to talk to you, wants to
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Lead you, guide you, you know, jesus himself said, "we live by
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Every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of god"?
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And we sit here today, you know, you, you're gonna kinda walk
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Through a little bit of your journey and you know, i mean, a
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Cessationist to a guy that teaches atheists how to talk to
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God, okay?
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That's a 180 in a--big time.
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Ed, it feels like you kinda need to set the stage, okay, because
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We've, you know, we're kind of sitting in here in a little bit
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Of a hangar and airplanes and flags and and that kind
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Of stuff.
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That's your, that's what you did for a living.
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God got a hold of you to do something great.
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Help set the stage for the audience and where do you want
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To start with this?
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Ed: yeah, first of all, matt and laurie crouch, i love you guys.
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So glad to be here.
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And i just honor you, what you've done and what you've been
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Through, and we're talking today about having a conversation
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With god.
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I would agree with your assessment.
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Other than knowing him for faith, for salvation, the single
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Most important thing a human can do is hear from their creator,
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And i feel this desperation actually on both sides.
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I know people who are so desperate to hear from god for
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Their life, and i know, and i feel god's desperation to speak
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A word into those people's lives and i was a person who didn't
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Even believe that god spoke.
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I can't even believe it, 15 years ago, i didn't believe
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There were any gifts of the spirit, that god literally had
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Gotten done speaking around 70 a.d.
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I feel so sad for myself back then.
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I feel so sad for people who still believe that because 15
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Years ago, god started speaking to me, or i think it would be
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Better to say i started listening.
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And the moment that i began to listen, god literally began to
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Change my life.
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And once i breathed oxygen for the first time, which is what
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Happens when you hear from god.
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I wanted to walk around the world handing out oxygen masks,
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And i've taught literally tens of thousands of people to hear
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From god, some of them atheists, and i know that's even pushes
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Some people's theological conventions into the corner.
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I will just simply tell you that god is in love with people and
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One of the first things he'll do is reach out in communication.
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And when that happens, when that bridge begins to get crossed, it
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Changes the person's life.
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Matt: well, doesn't the bible declare that even creation is
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Trying to communicate and yearning to get us to understand
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That there is a god and he loves us and he's talking and if we're
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Listening we'll get there?
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You need to kind of help me with connect the fact that you have a
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Flag waving over your shoulder and we have the nose of
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Airplanes, kind of poking around and help me kind of explain that
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You've described yourself as the worst pilot that was ever
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Licensed, but somehow you ended up flying, you know,
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High-performance jets for the military.
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How did--let's start with a little backstory here.
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Ed: yeah, so if you want to go all the way back, i
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Failed kindergarten.
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It's important for you to know that.
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Laurie crouch: i was a kindergarten dropout.
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Ed: really?
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Two times, man, i'm telling you.
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So, i had a daughter that just recently graduated from
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Kindergarten, and i looked at her report card.
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The classes are like blocks, stories, coloring.
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I'm like, how dumb do you have to be to fail that grade, right?
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So i just set the foundation for that just to let you know i
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Wasn't given like the gift of intelligence, like, when i was
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Born, and i actually joined the marine corps because the marine
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Corps was the last, the easiest service to get into if you're
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Not particularly good at school, you know.
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And it turned out i was a pretty good pilot.
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When i went to flight school, i graduated first in my class in
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Primary flight school, first in intermediate, first in advance,
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And i went off to fly the f-18.
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And if you've seen the movie top gun, which pretty much
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Everyone's seen the movie top gun, you see a pilot who's very
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Brash, very cocky, overconfident, and when i got to
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My first fighter pilot squadron, and that was me.
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I had done so well through flight school that i literally
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Thought i was the best, and when i showed up, i thought, "well,
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I'm gonna teach these other pilots, you know, who the
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Man is."
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Well, well, i think, isn't there a verse that says: "pride goes
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Before the fall"?
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I mean, i was like the walking case for that particular verse,
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And as i showed up at my first fighter pilot squadron, it was
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Right here in miramar, right down in san diego.
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Which you guys have been to that base before, i know.
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When i showed up there, i realized there's two
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Rank structures.
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In every squadron there's, you know, colonel, lieutenant
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Colonel, major, the rank structure, but the rank
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Structure no one ever talks about is who's the best?
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And there's the best pilot and the second, the third, and it's
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Not listed anywhere.
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There's no chart, you just know, because you go out and do
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Dogfights against each other.
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You fight against each other in simulated combat.
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And so i went out and fought against number one and number
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Five and number six and number two and number 17 and number 16.
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And over months i realized i was the worst and i was
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Getting beat.
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Now in an f-18, when you're winning, you're looking out of
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The front of your cockpit.
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When you're losing, you're looking out of the back and when
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You're trying to pull 6 or 7 g's looking backwards, that can not
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Only be like an immoral problem, that could be anatomically a
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Problem, like, your neck's snapping forward
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And all those things.
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And so i decided i needed to do something to change that.
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I read a study and the study took a bunch of
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Basketball players.
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They took 3 groups of 50 basketball players and they were
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Talking about improving free throws.
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The first group did 50 free throws every single day for an
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Entire month.
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The second group did 50 free throws in their mind perfectly
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For an entire month, and the third group did nothing, and the
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Results actually shocked even the people who set up the study,
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But they realized that the first group improved significantly,
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Obviously because they were practicing.
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The third group didn't improve at all, but the second group
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That only did it in their mind actually improved by the same
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Margin that the first group did.
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Literally there was no difference between imagining
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Something and actually doing something as far as
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Brain training.
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Came down, as you know, because you read the book, a lot of what
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I talk about when it comes to talking to god has to do with
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The brain.
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Well, back into the cockpit, i didn't have the hours nor the
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Tenure to get a lot of time in the airplane.
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And so what i did was i spent a lot of time in the
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Flight simulator.
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Literally, i would go into that flight simulator every evening
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That i could, take as many hours as i could, in case i would
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Literally blindfold myself and try to find the switches.
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I would practice turning perfect turns at 307 knots, not 305
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Knots, not 310 knots, literally 307 knots, practicing
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Perfect maneuver.
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And i drilled it and i practiced and i drilled and i practiced
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And three years later, not only was i the best pilot in my
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Squadron, but i was the number one pilot in the entire marine
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Corps for one-against-one dogfighting, literally teaching
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People across the world.
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I had graduated from top gun, and i'm the guy that failed
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Kindergarten and i teach that story as a foundation into
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Coming into a conversation with god and the reason why is
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Because how you actually train your mind is really important.
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I'll just look at you and just say, what goes on up here...is
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One of the most important things that i believe for a long time
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That god didn't even speak to people for crying out loud.
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That training actually inhibited me from hearing from god.
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And what i do with people now is simply teach them in a very
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Simple way, like almost in a flight simulator, how to hear
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The voice of god personally for their life, for their
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Relationships, for money, for their business, for their
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Finances and everything else, and it's changed the world.
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Ed: have you ever wanted to connect with god more deeply or
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Maybe even develop a daily conversational relationship with
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Your creator?
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Listen, there's no better way to do that right now than to get
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The "god talks" book and to do the exercises.
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Listen, you can hear from god all day long however you
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Want to.
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I'm just here to tell you that this book will help you do it
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Faster, and second, it's gonna help you train your mind
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For success.
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Now, the website below has not only the book, but it's got a
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Series of extra bonuses that we've added in a special for
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The website, by the way, is tbnbook.com.
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It's the easiest website to remember in the world.
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Just make sure you type it into your browser at tbnbook.com,
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That whole thing.
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It'll take you to a page where you can get a deeply discounted
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And the following bonuses, you're going to get a series of
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These are beautifully produced 15-minute audios that are gonna
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Help you immerse yourself into a conversation with god.
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Those are totally free.
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They're my gift to you.
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The background music is amazing, and you can just put your
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Headphones on, close your eyes, and start your conversation
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With god.
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Second, two weeks after this show airs for the very first
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Time, we're going to do a live zoom training.
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This is an opportunity for me and you to interact.
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Maybe you can ask some questions.
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You can do the exercises right with us and the other part of
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The community.
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Listen, now is the time to take action.
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There's no reason not to.
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There's no reason not to take that first step into a more
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Deep, more vibrant, more productive relationship with
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Your creator.
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So go to the website below and make sure to tell me your
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Success story.
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Matt: can i take--give me the liberty here for a minute to
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Kind of describe you, okay?
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I've been in kind of--
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Ed: you have the liberty to do whatever you want.
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It's your show.
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Matt: well, it feels like, ed, you're a friend.
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You were introduced by another friend, our common friend mason,
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And there's a few other connections in there.
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I've been around you quite a bit.
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And i would, i would say that this book when i found out you
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Had written this book, you know, i met you before i knew that you
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Had this book.
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This book didn't surprise me because one of the things that
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The lord allows you to do is, you know, is have a
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Prophetic gift.
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You can hear what the lord is saying.
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You've trained yourself like you trained yourself in flight
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School and you trained yourself in simulators and you have that
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Capability to do that.
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And what i wanna say is that we knew and most people that, you
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Know, watch tbn or have watched tbn over the years would know
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The name kim clement.
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And kim clement is largely as popular in social media as he as
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He ever was when he was alive.
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I mean, he's around a lot in social media still.
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And laurie and i sat across from him many times doing an
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Interview and, you know, he was a true prophet.
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He was this kind of guy that just if i have heard something
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I'll tell you.
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If i haven't heard something, i'm not gonna say anything to
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You and i'll be a bit boring and a bit crabby, you know.
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What you feel--what i feel like you've done, ed, is you've taken
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A prophetic gift and you've kind of made it work inside of a kind
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Of a different, a different angle.
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We have called it spirit contemporary at tbn over the
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Years, but life coach is a better way or kind of an easier
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Way to say it.
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It's almost like you have taken what training you had to hear
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From god and that you're delivering it to an audience in
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A way that is less prophetic gift and more life coach
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Gift in.
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So, weeks ago laurie and i had a day that we'd like to forget,
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You know, i mean it, it's just one of those days, one of those
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Days that, you know, is not is just a day that i'd rather not
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Have had, okay?
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And you found out about that day.
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And by the end of that first day, you got to your audio
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Recording and what i remember about it is you said i've been
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Busy all day.
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I've been in a conference.
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I kind of heard that you had kind of a cruddy day and read
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Something about it and--but you said a lot, but let me tell you
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What i remember from it, okay?
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So there's an impression that was given to me, but let me tell
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You what i remember.
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I'm not quoting you.
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I'm taking the essence of what you said to us and how i felt,
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And you said i almost have a holy jealousy.
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God is trusting you with something that proves that he is
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Going to take you to heights that you have never been.
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God is with you in this thing and by the end of the first day
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Of a really cruddy day--
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By the end of that first day, laurie and i were walking on air
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Because guess what?
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The voice of the lord does that.
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It changes you.
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When you hear what god says about you in any situation,
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It'll change your life and if we'd stop listening to what the
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World says or what a published article says or what a friend
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Says or what that neighbor says or that coworker says about you,
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Stop listening to anybody's voice but his,
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People are gonna change, change for the better and get about
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Doing more things that we've ever thought possible, okay?
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So my personal testimony with laurie is that we're sitting
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With ed rush and we have had our lives changed dramatically by--i
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Joke with you a little bit, you, i think i read in here you said
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To me one time when you try to hear the lord for yourself,
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You're about a 6 out of 10, you know, you're a little above
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Average, you know, but when i hear for other people it's like
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A 10 or 12, you know, and we've experienced that.
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You know, first of all i want you to get this book, and i want
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You to have this manual, this training manual, get it and all
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The information is on the screen.
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So why don't you unpack now a little bit of of this training
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Method because i think it's of utmost importance.
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Ed: yeah, first of all, just to direct your story.
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So that night i was on the east coast.
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I just got done the speaking event, it was midnight.
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I was sitting in my room in the marriott in kentucky someplace,
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And i sat down.
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The lord said, "i need you to send matt and laurie
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This message."
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And i said, "it's midnight, you know what i'm saying, like,
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It's midnight."
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And i said, "how about i just do it tomorrow morning?"
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You know, and we've all had conversations with god.
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Like i was saying like, he's okay with that, just so
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You know.
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And he goes, "no, i just want you to send it now."
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So i sent it.
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I remember apologizing.
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I'm sorry, it was like so late, and you guys replied like
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Right away.
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So i was like, at least, at least i didn't wake them up, but
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It was a very strategic moment and a very strategic word.
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What you were going through, i just remember feeling like i
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Could see the other side and i was like oh, i'm so in a way,
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Like i said, jealous because what god was doing with you is
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Exalting you.
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It didn't feel like it at the time, right?
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I think it is even still feels like it actually, but when you
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Start to see that and just being able to speak that to someone,
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And i'll say divine wisdom, god's word is life giving.
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It's life giving.
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It's the single most important thing you can have, like you
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Said, besides salvation.
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It is the breath of life and if you're in business or in
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Ministry or in the arts or whatever, go and ask him first,
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Hear from him first.
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That's what you have and fundamentally that's what i do.
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The church has done a wonderful job just, you know, training
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People to do church and to minister in the world.
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It hasn't done historically a really great job with world
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Changers, business people, government leaders, people who
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Are in the arts or media, even in schools and when i came out
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Of the marine corps, i actually started businesses, like, i
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Wasn't a ministry guy.
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I was a cessationist.
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I didn't even believe that god spoke.
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And so i was doing business events where i was teaching
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Business owners how to grow their business, how to make a
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Lot of money, how to change the world.
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It was all good stuff.
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It wasn't like smarmy business stuff, it was real stuff.
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But when god started speaking to me, i actually was rebuked by a
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Prophet, actually a person that we would consider a prophetic
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Prophet person.
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And that's prophetic prophet person, i'm sure he would love
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To be described in those exact words, but it was about five or
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Seven years into my journey hearing from god, and i had a
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Man walk up to me and say, "i have a word from god for you."
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And at that point i didn't even know what that meant.
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I wasn't connected into any of those streams.
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I was ready to hear from god, and he looked at me, yeah?
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Matt: a cessationist at the time when he walked up?
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Ed: no, this is about seven years.
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When i first heard from god, i didn't believe that god spoke.
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That's like another, that's the story in the first chapter of
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The book actually.
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Matt: which we need to get to, but go on.
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Ed: so this guy looked at me and he said, "cursed is the one who
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Withholds grain."
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So his word to me started with the word "cursed."
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Now, i don't know if you ever heard that word before spoken to
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You, but my heart dropped out of my chest.
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And i was like, what are you talking about?
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And he said, you know, you have this way of teaching world
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Changers, or sorry, he said, you have this way of asking god
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Questions about your business and getting answers, but
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You've--but i want, i've never, you never told anyone and i want
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You to teach world changers how to hear from god.
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And i said, look, i don't think you understand.
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I don't do that stuff in my events, my business events.
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I teach real business principle--but the next event,
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I said, i'll try it.
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We had 250 people, they're all business owners, entrepreneurs,
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7-, 8-figure folks.
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And i said, look, i said, in the morning of day three i'm gonna
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Do an optional exercise.
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If you want to show up an hour early, i'm gonna teach you how
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To ask god questions about your business.
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I expected about five people to show up because i didn't even
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Pitch them hard on it.
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I'd say, hey, just like if you wanna come early, come.
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I had 249 people out of 250 people show up.
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Now, i had a lot of christians that were there, but i also had
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Atheists and buddhists and agnostics and hindus and
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Skeptics, and people don't even know what they believe but
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Pretend to anyway.
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And at the time, even though i wasn't a cessationist, i still
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Believed god only spoke to his people.
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There was that message that i'd been taught that god can only
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Talk to his people, and i asked god that morning for a
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Dispensation on his rule.
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I said, "lord, if you--know you have this rule, but if you
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Wouldn't mind talking to some of these people today, that would
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Be really great."
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I taught them the process in the book, two simple questions.
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We turned the music on.
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Three minutes later there are people literally weeping.
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There are atheists in that room.
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We'll tell that story, i think probably today, who had, were
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Having dramatic encounters with god.
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He was taking them back in their memory to moments when they had
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Trauma or abuse when they were young and he was healing those
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Times right there.
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We literally had people physically healed in that room,
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In that moment.
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I don't even know.
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I don't even know anything about that at the time.
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I'm like just watching god simply move in there and i
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Realized this: a single word from the lord can change
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Everything and that's when i started telling people, "look,
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If i can teach an atheist to hear clearly the voice of god, i
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Can teach you too.
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It's actually not even that hard."
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Matt: first time you heard the voice of the lord as
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A cessationist.
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Ed: yeah, so i mean i was a person that didn't believe in
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The gifts of the spirit.
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I didn't believe that god spoke.
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I fairly publicly ridiculed people who did.
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And then i was just down.
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It was about 15 years ago, and i was going through, i was going
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Through what i consider now a deep spiritual depression.
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I knew everything about god.
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I read my bible through straight through every year.
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I was a very devout person, i prayed for at least for an hour
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Every single day.
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And it was like, it was like a married person who can perfectly
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Describe their wife but never spends any time with her,
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You know?
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I knew everything about god.
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I just didn't know god and i was in this really deep depression,
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It was very discouraging.
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I was traveling the world speaking and encouraging people
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And then like i would come home and i would just feel this
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Huge emptiness.
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And somewhat out of desperation, i went to see a counselor.
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I didn't really believe in counseling.
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I didn't think it was important.
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I thought most counselors just make things up as they as they
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Go along.
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But i sat down in this room, the size of a closet, i was sitting
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On a folding chair, i had a cup of day old, you know, cup coffee
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In a styrofoam cup, you know, it's like little styrofoam cups?
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And the counselor was sitting there with his assistant, the
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Assistants like taking notes, and the counselor said, "ed, i
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Want you to ask god a question.
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I want you to ask god what lies you believe about you."
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And i remember thinking, "ask god what?"
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Like, first of all, he's not gonna answer.
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Second, if he does answer, i was confident that god was going to
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First say, "i'm very disappointed in you and look at
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All the mistakes you made."
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I knew that god's voice was going to be discouraging or
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Condemning at first.
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And so i tried to find a way out, like i was trying to figure
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Out a way i could get, leave the room or like, you know, pretend
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To go to the bathroom and then get to my car, but i stayed.
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I actually stayed in that room and so i shifted gears and i
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Decided i was gonna pretend.
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I'm gonna make up an answer.
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I'm gonna make the guy feel like he had a great day.
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I'm just gonna make it up as we go along.
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I'm gonna ask god the question and then i'm gonna give him
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Some answers.
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They're gonna write the answers down.
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"hey, great job today," and i'm gonna leave, never talked to
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This person ever again.
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And so i decided i was gonna pretend, i was decided i was
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Gonna imagine.
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Now remember, i have a practice of imagining.
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Remember i told you that story sitting in the flight simulator
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Imagining and practicing?
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Little did i know that god had a different plan for me that
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Particular day, 'cause i asked god the question.
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I said, "lord," i said, "what lies do i believe about me?"
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And out of the darkness, god said, "you believe
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You're alone."
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And in that moment he actually took me back in time to when i
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Was six years old.
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I was watching in my memory, my parents have a divorce level
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Intensity argument.
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I was in the backseat of a car back before we even buckled
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Our seatbelts.
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My mom was talking to my dad, my dad was talking to my mom.
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By the way, my parents are amazing people.
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They were just going through a difficult time.
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And then the moment my mom took my kindergarten application,
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Well, my application second try at kindergarten, and she took it
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Threw out the window.
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I remember in my memory seeing the pages bloom and she started
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Driving away.
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And as she drove away, i out of the backseat yelled, "stop!"
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And i jumped out of the car and started picking up all
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These papers.
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And as i'm picking up these papers, i watch in my memory as
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I say to myself, "i guess i'm alone now."
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And that thought pattern at six years old literally became a
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Software that i coded into my mind that became a reality.
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Literally everyone in my life i kept at a distance, even my
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Kids, even my relationship with my wife or my team members, i
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Had a revolving door of employees.
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"alone" was literally like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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It was like a self-licking ice cream cone that made its way
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Into every area of my life and all of a sudden i'm in this room
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And i'm crying and i don't cry, i'm a marine.
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You can see the marine corps flag over my shoulder, right?
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And i'm weeping in front of two grown men.
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It's very embarrassing, you know.
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And so i come out of this moment that god has for me and like
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Counselor goes, "now i want you to ask god what's true."
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And trust me, at this point i'm not pretending.
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I'm like i'm in this one to win it, and i ask god what is true,
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And god says again, he says, "you've never been alone.
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I've always been with you and i love you, and i'm proud of you,"
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And he snaps me back into that memory.
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Only this moment in the memory, everything is exactly the same.
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I get out of the car, i go pick up the papers, and as i'm
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Picking up the papers, literally in my memory after asking god
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That second question, i look over here and jesus is standing
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Right next to me picking up the papers with me.
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And he and i carry these papers and we sit in the backseat of my
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Mom's car and she drives off, my mom and jesus and me, and all of
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A sudden i realize it's strange to think that you're alone when
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You're sitting in the backseat of your mom's car next to jesus.
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And i thought it was amazing.
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God actually rewrote the whole memory with the true version.
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That was the real version, you know.
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The other version was actually the false version.
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He rewrites the story of this amazing true version of this
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Story, and ever since then i've been having vibrant
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Conversations with the king of kings who wants to have a
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Conversation with me and wants to have a conversation with you.
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It's amazing what happens when those walls come down.
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It's okay, i don't normally get you that story without crying
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Either, laurie.
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[laughs]
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Matt: the--didn't in essence, ed, that become largely the
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Basis for what you feel compelled to do what this book
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Is about?
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Isn't that really how we get started with our relationship?
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Ed: yeah, i mean, jesus quoted isaiah 60, i think about setting
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Prisoners free.
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Like when i got free from that prison, a mental, emotional,
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Physical, intellectual prison that i had myself in, like, the
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Moment that you hear the voice of god,
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Like i said earlier in the show, it's like you breathe oxygen for
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The first time, and when that happens, you wanna walk around
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The cabin of the airplane putting people's oxygen
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Masks on.
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And i had to get rebuked to be able to do that.
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But man, when i did that, i've seen some of the most
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Amazing things.
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We talk in the book, chapter six in the book is the story
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Of maya.
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It's an atheist who heard from god.
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I have to say, i didn't even believe that happened.
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I didn't believe that god spoke to atheists.
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I was taught completely differently.
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When you see a person have an encounter with god, she walked
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Into an event i was having.
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She came to a business event.
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She came in late, as she walked in the door, she heard me go, i
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Want you to ask god these questions, and i have to say,
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For a woman who was in her 60s at the time and had literally
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Not believed god since she was 5 years old, it took a lot of
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Courage to sit down and ask those questions, but literally,
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The moment that atheist named maya asked questions, god spoke
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Out of the darkness and started talking to her.
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And it's interesting because i have all these conversations
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Online, people get critical of me.
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I'll just simply tell you, the first thing god does when he
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Speaks to an atheist is he doesn't give them a plan
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Of salvation.
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That eventually comes.
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He doesn't tell them some sort of really important doctrinal
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Point about election or arminianism or choosing god
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Or whatever.
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He always gives them love.
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He delivers love when he talks to them, and it changes
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Their life.
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Matt: you know, we better hope god speaks to the unbeliever
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Because there's a pretty dramatic story in the book of
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Acts about paul the apostle, you know, who heard: "you know, why
00:26:28.610 --> 00:26:33.148
Are you persecuting me?"
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"who are you?"
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You know, "i am jesus christ."
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Ed: yeah, he spoke through a donkey once.
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I think like if god can talk through a donkey, he can talk to
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Anybody he wants to.
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Why would my rules be in place?
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Matt: so let me get this straight.
00:26:43.992 --> 00:26:45.326
You're basically not a good student.
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You go into the marine corps.
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You become a pilot because you test good for that, but you're
00:26:52.734 --> 00:26:56.771
Cocky and not a good pilot.
00:26:56.771 --> 00:26:58.840
You basically through a work ethic and a training program,
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Become a good pilot, you become number one, you come out of the
00:27:03.812 --> 00:27:06.748
Marine corps.
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You start teaching business principles to people.
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And but you can now hear from god and then a prophet tells you
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You're withholding to people that need to hear that oxygen
00:27:19.194 --> 00:27:24.532
And your life changes and you become the ed rush that i know.
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Ed: yeah, i mean, and fundamentally what i realized is
00:27:29.204 --> 00:27:33.108
There's this whole category of world-changing people who, and
00:27:33.108 --> 00:27:36.778
Just you know, i love the church.
00:27:36.778 --> 00:27:38.713
I'm a member of the church.
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I mean like when i, so when i talk about the church, i'm just
00:27:40.081 --> 00:27:42.751
Debriefing like a fighter pilot.
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I'm just saying what we can do better.
00:27:44.085 --> 00:27:45.453
There's this whole category of world-changing people that the
00:27:45.453 --> 00:27:47.622
Church has not ministered to all that well, honestly, 7, 8,
00:27:47.622 --> 00:27:50.692
9-figure business owner, billionaire type folks,
00:27:50.692 --> 00:27:53.595
World-changing people in government, folks in education,
00:27:53.595 --> 00:27:56.030
Arts and media.
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We've done a really good job of building bible study programs.
00:27:57.365 --> 00:27:59.667
We've actually done a very poor job of filling up congress and
00:27:59.667 --> 00:28:02.203
The senate and the educational system and the arts and media
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And things like tv and and radio, the things that we love
00:28:05.373 --> 00:28:08.143
To talk about.
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And so what god's given me the gift, like you said what i said
00:28:09.511 --> 00:28:12.046
In the book, which is for me hearing from me, i'm still about
00:28:12.046 --> 00:28:14.149
A 6, maybe a 7 by now.
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When i'm hearing for others, i'm probably more like a 9 or a 10
00:28:16.818 --> 00:28:19.187
When i'm talking to a person who i consider a world changer.
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It's probably a 12.
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God's given me this ability to be able to speak into their life
00:28:23.258 --> 00:28:26.161
And to see into the future and to be able to help them make
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And adjust.
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And the truth is god truly wants to change the world and he's
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Using his people to do it, but in certain cases, people are
00:28:32.500 --> 00:28:35.470
Thinking, well, you know, like, you know money is just a
00:28:35.470 --> 00:28:38.573
Necessary evil.
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No, you know what, if you're called to be a billionaire,
00:28:39.908 --> 00:28:41.376
Money's gonna change the world through you.
00:28:41.376 --> 00:28:42.710
You know, you're gonna be able to use that to change the world,
00:28:42.710 --> 00:28:44.979
And god wants to speak into that part of your life.
00:28:44.979 --> 00:28:47.215
Matt: okay, laurie and i, laurie's daddy was a
00:28:47.215 --> 00:28:51.953
Pentecostal preacher.
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My dad was the founder of trinity.
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My grandfathers on both my sides were pentecostal preachers.
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Go into the great grandparent world and there's a great
00:29:06.768 --> 00:29:10.138
Grandmother who preached pentecostal and before the turn
00:29:10.138 --> 00:29:14.676
Of the 20th century in 1890 had a team of horses and was
00:29:14.676 --> 00:29:19.881
Preaching pentecost as a woman, think of that, and so a lot of
00:29:19.881 --> 00:29:25.253
These stories of god speaking and wanting to speak, i'm
00:29:25.253 --> 00:29:32.126
Used to.
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My--we're sitting here today because of god's voice.
00:29:34.229 --> 00:29:38.433
My mom and dad left an event that they had put on working for
00:29:38.433 --> 00:29:42.837
Another group, and the lord said, "i've released you from
00:29:42.837 --> 00:29:46.241
Your work here."
00:29:46.241 --> 00:29:47.876
My dad looks over at my mom in the car and says, "jane, you're
00:29:47.876 --> 00:29:51.279
Not gonna believe what the lord just said."
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.047
She said, "no, i will because he just said the same thing to me.
00:29:53.047 --> 00:29:57.218
He's released us from our work here."
00:29:57.218 --> 00:29:59.787
So now what do you do with that as a couple?
00:29:59.787 --> 00:30:02.590
The wife's not convincing the husband, the husband's not
00:30:02.590 --> 00:30:05.393
Convincing the wife to go and do something.
00:30:05.393 --> 00:30:08.863
Well, they quit their job assuming television was in
00:30:08.863 --> 00:30:14.335
Their future.
00:30:14.335 --> 00:30:16.704
My dad is praying one day and hears the lord say, "call
00:30:16.704 --> 00:30:22.210
Angel lerma."
00:30:22.210 --> 00:30:24.812
I don't know that i've ever heard words like that.
00:30:24.812 --> 00:30:30.685
I've seen pictures and i've seen dreams and i've had a few events
00:30:30.685 --> 00:30:35.857
Like that, but my dad would hear words like, you know, the
00:30:35.857 --> 00:30:40.662
Engineer side of him needed words, you know, and he did see
00:30:40.662 --> 00:30:44.098
Pictures sometimes, but this word was right then right there.
00:30:44.098 --> 00:30:49.203
He calls a guy, his station's for sale, he had just voted to
00:30:49.203 --> 00:30:53.441
Sell it.
00:30:53.441 --> 00:30:54.776
My dad said i'd like to come see you.
00:30:54.776 --> 00:30:56.377
That's the station that we're broadcasting on here in los
00:30:56.377 --> 00:30:59.347
Angeles right now, okay?
00:30:59.347 --> 00:31:01.649
There's another way god speaks and my dad was on the phone.
00:31:01.649 --> 00:31:05.853
He's now the, you know, owner of the tv station.
00:31:05.853 --> 00:31:10.024
Phone call comes in.
00:31:10.024 --> 00:31:11.859
This is during affirmative action.
00:31:11.859 --> 00:31:14.562
This is way back in the '70s, okay, under a government program
00:31:14.562 --> 00:31:20.868
That you couldn't ask any questions about people's faith
00:31:20.868 --> 00:31:25.540
Or any of that, we can today if somebody's applying for a job
00:31:25.540 --> 00:31:29.644
Here at tbn.
00:31:29.644 --> 00:31:30.979
We could ask them if they're a christian.
00:31:30.979 --> 00:31:32.347
It's part of, you know, kind of the thing.
00:31:32.347 --> 00:31:34.882
Thank the lord that got fought all the way to the supreme court
00:31:34.882 --> 00:31:39.220
And it's law, but back in the day you couldn't, and an
00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:42.457
Engineer candidate says, "mr. crouch, do you have
00:31:42.457 --> 00:31:45.994
To be a christian to work at your channel?"
00:31:45.994 --> 00:31:49.330
And he went, "ye--"
00:31:49.330 --> 00:31:51.833
And tried to say the word yes and his throat pinched off.
00:31:51.833 --> 00:31:55.837
I mean the word wouldn't come out of his mouth and he went,
00:31:55.837 --> 00:32:00.141
Ye--" and he said, "hold please," and put him on hold and
00:32:00.141 --> 00:32:06.014
Went, "holy spirit, what's going on?
00:32:06.014 --> 00:32:07.849
I can't say the word yes."
00:32:07.849 --> 00:32:10.418
Had a moment, punched back into the guy.
00:32:10.418 --> 00:32:13.788
"well, i don't suppose you'd have to be a christian to work
00:32:13.788 --> 00:32:16.624
Here, but you might wanna be much like maybe if you were
00:32:16.624 --> 00:32:20.762
Applying for a job at a spanish language channel, you might
00:32:20.762 --> 00:32:24.098
Wanna know how to speak spanish."
00:32:24.098 --> 00:32:25.733
Okay?
00:32:25.733 --> 00:32:27.068
The guy went, "huh, well that makes a lot of sense.
00:32:27.068 --> 00:32:29.137
That's common sense, by the way, if you'd have said, yes, i was
00:32:29.137 --> 00:32:31.639
Gonna file an application against your license and a
00:32:31.639 --> 00:32:35.643
Complaint against your license at your renewal expectant."
00:32:35.643 --> 00:32:38.446
So look, god can either choke your your voice off you know and
00:32:38.446 --> 00:32:44.552
Work with you that way or he can speak to you, but i'm calling it
00:32:44.552 --> 00:32:48.823
Super important.
00:32:48.823 --> 00:32:50.158
So you wrote the book "god talks."
00:32:50.158 --> 00:32:53.828
How can we give an introductory course to this.
00:32:53.828 --> 00:32:58.666
What do you really, what is this, what is the training that
00:32:58.666 --> 00:33:03.204
You have in here?
00:33:03.204 --> 00:33:04.672
Because when you give the training, i think the people are
00:33:04.672 --> 00:33:07.275
Gonna want the book.
00:33:07.275 --> 00:33:08.643
Give us enough about the training so that they understand
00:33:08.643 --> 00:33:10.912
What they're buying.
00:33:10.912 --> 00:33:12.346
Ed: okay, great.
00:33:12.346 --> 00:33:13.714
So there's basically two parts of the book.
00:33:13.714 --> 00:33:15.049
The first part actually lays the foundation for hearing from god,
00:33:15.049 --> 00:33:16.951
And the second part gives essentially a walkthrough of
00:33:16.951 --> 00:33:19.987
The seminaries that i teach people to ask god questions.
00:33:19.987 --> 00:33:23.257
The first part's actually really important.
00:33:23.257 --> 00:33:24.859
There's a lot of books out there that talk about hearing
00:33:24.859 --> 00:33:27.995
From god.
00:33:27.995 --> 00:33:29.330
Okay, so this is not a new book.
00:33:29.330 --> 00:33:30.698
This is really the first book, or sorry, this is--there's also
00:33:30.698 --> 00:33:32.767
A lot of books that teach neurology, brain science, sort
00:33:32.767 --> 00:33:35.470
Of how to train your brain.
00:33:35.470 --> 00:33:36.804
This book basically brings the two together and it's a really
00:33:36.804 --> 00:33:38.906
Important component because you have to understand how your mind
00:33:38.906 --> 00:33:41.943
Works, how your mind actually processes things before you
00:33:41.943 --> 00:33:44.645
Understand how god changes your habit patterns, your thought
00:33:44.645 --> 00:33:47.181
Patterns, and changes your mind.
00:33:47.181 --> 00:33:48.749
And so the first part of the book is about the brain.
00:33:48.749 --> 00:33:50.351
There's three parts of the brain, not two.
00:33:50.351 --> 00:33:52.053
We were told there's a conscious mind and a subconscious mind.
00:33:52.053 --> 00:33:54.155
There's actually a third part.
00:33:54.155 --> 00:33:55.490
So the conscious mind is like what we're talking with right
00:33:55.490 --> 00:33:57.725
Now, like what i'm talking to you with right now.
00:33:57.725 --> 00:33:59.927
The subconscious is what's happening back here, that
00:33:59.927 --> 00:34:01.896
Processing system that is filing things that's working
00:34:01.896 --> 00:34:05.066
Through solutions.
00:34:05.066 --> 00:34:06.434
When i believed i'm alone, my subconscious began to process
00:34:06.434 --> 00:34:09.704
That and started creating solutions for me to be alone.
00:34:09.704 --> 00:34:13.508
And so the subconscious has no morality, it doesn't know good
00:34:13.508 --> 00:34:15.943
Or bad, doesn't know what's good for you, doesn't know anything.
00:34:15.943 --> 00:34:18.146
It's just literally doing what you're telling it to do.
00:34:18.146 --> 00:34:20.515
So when you believe something, it becomes a thought pattern
00:34:20.515 --> 00:34:23.284
That processes in the subconscious that finds its way
00:34:23.284 --> 00:34:25.987
Into reality.
00:34:25.987 --> 00:34:27.355
So let me give you an example.
00:34:27.355 --> 00:34:28.689
Somebody grew up like i grew up thinking that money is the root
00:34:28.689 --> 00:34:31.325
Of all evil or that money doesn't grow on trees or that,
00:34:31.325 --> 00:34:33.794
You know, money will turn you into a bad person, which, by the
00:34:33.794 --> 00:34:35.863
Way, those are all lies.
00:34:35.863 --> 00:34:37.198
They come from the pit of hell.
00:34:37.198 --> 00:34:38.566
They smell like smoke.
00:34:38.566 --> 00:34:39.901
Some of them sound really religious, but they're not.
00:34:39.901 --> 00:34:41.269
That verse that i quoted--that money is the root of all evil--
00:34:41.269 --> 00:34:43.004
That's not a verse.
00:34:43.004 --> 00:34:44.338
It's not even in there.
00:34:44.338 --> 00:34:45.673
It says the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.
00:34:45.673 --> 00:34:47.575
That doesn't actually, yeah, that other version of that verse
00:34:47.575 --> 00:34:50.244
Doesn't actually exist, but if somebody believes that, they
00:34:50.244 --> 00:34:52.713
Will literally become a way station for money or what i call
00:34:52.713 --> 00:34:55.082
A grand central station for money.
00:34:55.082 --> 00:34:56.751
Money will come through, they'll leave.
00:34:56.751 --> 00:34:58.119
Money will come through, they'll leave.
00:34:58.186 --> 00:34:59.520
And so if a person has an empty bank account, it's because of
00:34:59.520 --> 00:35:01.622
The way they think, okay?
00:35:01.622 --> 00:35:02.957
It's because of a processing of the way they think unless
00:35:02.957 --> 00:35:05.760
They've been called to poverty, which very few people are.
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.162
And so the subconscious is the processing system.
00:35:08.162 --> 00:35:10.898
So you have a conscious mind and a subconscious mind that create
00:35:10.898 --> 00:35:13.034
The reality of your life, but what most people don't talk
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About is this third part that in the book i call
00:35:15.469 --> 00:35:17.138
The superconscious.
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And essentially what this is is it's the hardware center of your
00:35:18.506 --> 00:35:21.142
Brain that is designed and created to connect with god.
00:35:21.142 --> 00:35:23.878
Literally you were created with a hardwire to hear from god.
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You were born with the ability to hear directly from
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Your creator.
00:35:30.151 --> 00:35:31.485
I can show you scientifically, literally, the part of your
00:35:31.485 --> 00:35:33.421
Brain that when you pray and have a conversation with god,
00:35:33.421 --> 00:35:35.823
This one part actually lights up.
00:35:35.823 --> 00:35:37.592
It starts reaching out to the other parts of the brain.
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This is neurological truth.
00:35:39.694 --> 00:35:41.529
Every scientist who studies the brain will simply show you how
00:35:41.529 --> 00:35:44.065
That happens electronically every single time.
00:35:44.065 --> 00:35:45.967
And so this is, isn't even fuzzy fuzzy, wooey, wooey stuff.
00:35:45.967 --> 00:35:49.070
This is literal brain science that when you understand it, you
00:35:49.070 --> 00:35:51.772
Can completely change the reality of your life simply
00:35:51.772 --> 00:35:54.609
Through understanding that.
00:35:54.609 --> 00:35:55.943
Now when you connect it with a conversation with god, you put
00:35:55.943 --> 00:35:58.879
That power on steroids.
00:35:58.879 --> 00:36:01.249
You're taking it and multiplying it by about 1000.
00:36:01.249 --> 00:36:03.918
Laurie: and you don't have to even be a christian to
00:36:03.918 --> 00:36:06.754
Start this?
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Ed: i hate to say it.
00:36:08.122 --> 00:36:09.457
Like i have to just say, of all the things that people criticize
00:36:09.457 --> 00:36:11.492
Me for, this is the one that they do most, and i will just
00:36:11.492 --> 00:36:14.695
Say it's, i read about it right in the book.
00:36:14.695 --> 00:36:16.897
I said not only don't you have to be a christian, i mean,
00:36:16.897 --> 00:36:19.333
Ideally you, you know, it would be better for you if you
00:36:19.333 --> 00:36:21.569
Are, okay?
00:36:21.569 --> 00:36:22.937
But like i, you don't even have to be a christian.
00:36:22.937 --> 00:36:24.405
And second, this is important.
00:36:24.405 --> 00:36:25.873
You don't have to even believe this will work for you, okay?
00:36:25.873 --> 00:36:29.143
Matt: paul wasn't debating it in his mind.
00:36:29.143 --> 00:36:33.748
He was persecuting jesus.
00:36:33.748 --> 00:36:36.951
Probably, you know, and, okay, so we've established that--
00:36:36.951 --> 00:36:40.921
Laurie: well, my whole thing is we're all created in the image
00:36:40.921 --> 00:36:42.990
Of god.
00:36:42.990 --> 00:36:44.325
We all have this spirit of god, the breath of life inside of us.
00:36:44.325 --> 00:36:51.032
Of course that's gonna work for anyone.
00:36:51.032 --> 00:36:53.334
Ed: and just by the way, for the believers out there who are
00:36:53.334 --> 00:36:55.336
Like, you go like hardcore evangelists, and i think you're
00:36:55.336 --> 00:36:57.471
Amazing if that's you.
00:36:57.471 --> 00:36:58.839
I'll just simply tell you there's really two ways to turn
00:36:58.839 --> 00:37:00.908
A person into a christian.
00:37:00.908 --> 00:37:02.276
You can try to convince them over time, over time, over time,
00:37:02.276 --> 00:37:04.979
Over time with a bunch of proofs or you can introduce them to
00:37:04.979 --> 00:37:07.448
God, have them have a conversation with god and watch
00:37:07.448 --> 00:37:09.917
Their heart melt as he begins a conversation.
00:37:09.917 --> 00:37:13.988
I said earlier in the show, god always leads with love, and when
00:37:13.988 --> 00:37:16.657
They encounter real love, when you really encounter the love of
00:37:16.657 --> 00:37:21.329
The father, everything, all the reasons why and all the
00:37:21.329 --> 00:37:25.333
Questions go away and you start to ask.
00:37:25.333 --> 00:37:27.735
Matt: don't lose your train of thought, but jesus is appearing
00:37:27.735 --> 00:37:31.172
To muslim people and the first thing they're testifying to is
00:37:31.172 --> 00:37:35.810
It's the first time that they've ever felt loved before.
00:37:35.810 --> 00:37:39.146
Ed: yeah, i mean, we were taught, i grew up studying
00:37:39.146 --> 00:37:41.515
Apologetics, you know?
00:37:41.515 --> 00:37:42.883
I told you i knew the bible and i knew every answer to every
00:37:42.883 --> 00:37:45.286
Question if god's evil, why, if god's so good, why does
00:37:45.286 --> 00:37:47.655
Evil exist?
00:37:47.655 --> 00:37:48.989
And i used to debate people and after the debate, much like what
00:37:48.989 --> 00:37:50.925
You see online all the time, nobody changed their mind.
00:37:50.925 --> 00:37:53.361
And then now what i do is i bring people in the room and i
00:37:53.361 --> 00:37:55.496
Ask god these questions.
00:37:55.496 --> 00:37:57.331
They're asking for tissues two minutes later because they've
00:37:57.331 --> 00:38:00.000
Had an encounter and then they don't ask, they don't ask if
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.671
God's so good, why does evil exist?
00:38:03.671 --> 00:38:05.406
You know what they ask next?
00:38:05.406 --> 00:38:06.741
What do i do now?
00:38:06.741 --> 00:38:08.109
What do i do next?
00:38:08.109 --> 00:38:09.510
That--when you have an encounter with god, you say, what do i
00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:11.579
Do next?
00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:12.947
Matt: okay, two questions again just so that in case somebody
00:38:12.947 --> 00:38:15.116
Just tuned in.
00:38:15.116 --> 00:38:16.450
The two questions that you asked about yourself in that
00:38:16.450 --> 00:38:21.689
First session.
00:38:21.689 --> 00:38:23.057
Ed: the first question is what lies do i believe about and then
00:38:23.057 --> 00:38:24.792
You fill-in the blanks.
00:38:24.792 --> 00:38:26.127
So in the book there's seven core areas that i teach you to
00:38:26.127 --> 00:38:28.295
Ask god questions.
00:38:28.295 --> 00:38:29.630
Ask god about yourself, ask god about god, ask god about your
00:38:29.630 --> 00:38:31.966
Past, ask god about your future, ask god about money, your
00:38:31.966 --> 00:38:34.835
Purpose, and then if you have a business, ask god about
00:38:34.835 --> 00:38:37.071
Your business.
00:38:37.071 --> 00:38:38.406
Those are the seven.
00:38:38.406 --> 00:38:39.774
And the framework is you ask god what lies do i believe about me?
00:38:39.774 --> 00:38:42.510
What lies do i believe about you?
00:38:42.510 --> 00:38:44.245
What lies do i believe about money?
00:38:44.245 --> 00:38:45.579
You do each one of those for seven days.
00:38:45.579 --> 00:38:47.715
And then the second question is what's true?
00:38:47.715 --> 00:38:49.583
And in the book, i teach you the neurological process for taking
00:38:49.583 --> 00:38:52.686
The answers that god gave you, retraining your mind so that you
00:38:52.686 --> 00:38:55.923
Will turn yourself into a missile for the kind of success
00:38:55.923 --> 00:38:58.726
That god wants.
00:38:58.726 --> 00:39:00.060
Matt: you know, that what connected in my brain just a
00:39:00.060 --> 00:39:04.031
Minute ago is our friend who's in heaven now, leon fontaine,
00:39:04.031 --> 00:39:10.871
Used a term called heart beliefs and until you changed your heart
00:39:10.871 --> 00:39:17.011
Belief, you can't really make progress and i feel like, ed,
00:39:17.011 --> 00:39:25.119
There's something that i'm understanding even better that.
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:31.492
If you have believed the wrong piece your brain subconsciously
00:39:31.492 --> 00:39:37.298
Is back there creating and wiring and creating code to be
00:39:37.298 --> 00:39:43.938
Able to basically preserve you.
00:39:43.938 --> 00:39:48.209
If you thought you were alone then you can't be close to
00:39:48.209 --> 00:39:52.012
Anybody because they're eventually gonna leave you and
00:39:52.012 --> 00:39:56.817
We sometimes we understand it in extreme cases.
00:39:56.817 --> 00:39:59.854
As somebody becomes a hoarder,
00:39:59.854 --> 00:40:02.957
You know that they've had trauma in their life and that inanimate
00:40:02.957 --> 00:40:07.294
Objects that they collect in their house are not gonna
00:40:07.294 --> 00:40:10.397
Leave them.
00:40:10.397 --> 00:40:11.765
So they're somewhat comforted by that and it's weird and normal
00:40:11.765 --> 00:40:15.035
People don't understand it and and their family members
00:40:15.035 --> 00:40:18.472
Walk in.
00:40:18.472 --> 00:40:19.807
I've seen that show called "hoarders."
00:40:19.807 --> 00:40:22.343
And they--or food or people go to food for comfort when they've
00:40:22.343 --> 00:40:29.116
Been traumatized and food is never gonna harm me.
00:40:29.116 --> 00:40:32.953
It only, you know, you know, so only in extreme cases but you
00:40:32.953 --> 00:40:37.324
Could live a whole life basically having your
00:40:37.324 --> 00:40:41.695
Subconscious basically messing with your outcomes because it's
00:40:41.695 --> 00:40:46.967
Trying to preserve you from something that you've
00:40:46.967 --> 00:40:49.770
Incorrectly believed about yourself or god.
00:40:49.770 --> 00:40:52.106
Ed: not only can you live your whole life but most people do.
00:40:52.106 --> 00:40:54.575
I'm talking about 99.9% of people are running a
00:40:54.575 --> 00:40:57.111
Subconscious software program and the fun thing about the day
00:40:57.111 --> 00:41:00.347
And age that we're in right now is we all understand software.
00:41:00.347 --> 00:41:02.583
We saw how the ais were all released.
00:41:02.583 --> 00:41:04.952
And when google, for example, released their ai, it was like
00:41:04.952 --> 00:41:07.354
Super racist and weird.
00:41:07.354 --> 00:41:08.722
Well, that's because of the coding, that's because of the
00:41:08.722 --> 00:41:10.658
Software, that's because of the way it was programmed, and we
00:41:10.658 --> 00:41:13.193
All understand that.
00:41:13.193 --> 00:41:14.562
Well, guess what? god trained our mind like that.
00:41:14.562 --> 00:41:16.096
When you understand that, by the way, first of all, you look at
00:41:16.096 --> 00:41:18.632
The world differently, and second, you realize how powerful
00:41:18.632 --> 00:41:20.568
You are, how much you can change just by the way that you think.
00:41:20.568 --> 00:41:23.571
It's actually so simple to do that.
00:41:23.571 --> 00:41:25.472
And i would just tell people every result you have in your
00:41:25.472 --> 00:41:27.408
Life is there because of a set of actions.
00:41:27.408 --> 00:41:29.710
Every action is there because of the way of thinking and every
00:41:29.710 --> 00:41:32.313
Way of thinking is there because of some words you spoke to
00:41:32.313 --> 00:41:34.782
Yourself or someone else spoke to you a whole while back and to
00:41:34.782 --> 00:41:38.485
Reverse the process, it's like i don't mean to talk bad about
00:41:38.485 --> 00:41:42.723
Counseling because i had a great experience in that one
00:41:42.723 --> 00:41:44.658
Counseling session, but people go to counseling for years to
00:41:44.658 --> 00:41:47.494
Fix something that god can fix in about 30 seconds when you use
00:41:47.494 --> 00:41:50.598
This process to rewire yourself.
00:41:50.598 --> 00:41:52.232
It's fascinating.
00:41:52.232 --> 00:41:53.567
Matt: okay.
00:41:53.567 --> 00:41:55.402
Laurie: and so many people get stuck in that time--in a lie,
00:41:55.402 --> 00:41:59.640
Believing a lie.
00:41:59.640 --> 00:42:01.008
That's why the bible says the truth that you know will set
00:42:01.008 --> 00:42:02.810
You free.
00:42:02.810 --> 00:42:04.178
Ed: it's as simple as that.
00:42:04.178 --> 00:42:05.512
I mean, honestly, it's been before us ever since--
00:42:05.512 --> 00:42:08.649
It's been there ever since the very beginning.
00:42:08.649 --> 00:42:11.085
The whole history of the bible is god having a conversation
00:42:11.085 --> 00:42:14.388
With his people.
00:42:14.388 --> 00:42:15.756
Matt: okay, i feel like i want to just give a minute now to
00:42:15.756 --> 00:42:22.529
Those that are watching.
00:42:22.529 --> 00:42:24.231
And laurie and i have literally
00:42:24.231 --> 00:42:30.771
Felt that fresh breath
00:42:30.771 --> 00:42:34.341
And we've breathed that amazing pure oxygen of a word from god.
00:42:34.341 --> 00:42:41.548
We have felt that.
00:42:41.548 --> 00:42:43.283
We have momentarily listened to what somebody else said, and
00:42:43.283 --> 00:42:51.258
Then we heard what god said and it changes you, it changes the
00:42:51.258 --> 00:42:56.063
Inside of you.
00:42:56.063 --> 00:42:57.698
So we want you to get this because we've experienced what
00:42:57.698 --> 00:43:04.104
That is.
00:43:04.104 --> 00:43:05.439
We've experienced it.
00:43:05.439 --> 00:43:06.807
And so, ed, but our goal here on this broadcast that we're kind
00:43:06.807 --> 00:43:12.646
Of needing to kind of land the plane--
00:43:12.646 --> 00:43:15.816
Like what i did with that?-- and gear down.
00:43:15.816 --> 00:43:21.121
Ed: yeah. matt: yeah, okay.
00:43:21.121 --> 00:43:22.589
Ed: so we're on final approach is what you're saying, calling
00:43:22.589 --> 00:43:25.259
The ball.
00:43:25.259 --> 00:43:26.627
Matt: well, let's, we have to at least go downwind and turn right
00:43:26.627 --> 00:43:29.463
Base and right final and line up on the, you know, two pilots.
00:43:29.463 --> 00:43:36.170
So basically, basically what we're trying to say here is this
00:43:36.170 --> 00:43:43.877
Is a resource but the source of the resource, ed, is sitting
00:43:43.877 --> 00:43:50.517
Right here.
00:43:50.517 --> 00:43:51.885
So we want you to get this because we know what it's done
00:43:51.885 --> 00:43:55.756
And we know what this that the guy that wrote the book
00:43:55.756 --> 00:44:00.861
Has done.
00:44:00.861 --> 00:44:02.229
We want you.
00:44:02.229 --> 00:44:03.564
So we're trying to get people to hear the voice and this is
00:44:03.564 --> 00:44:07.234
Really just a master class of what you've learned after you
00:44:07.234 --> 00:44:15.409
Went to that one good counseling session.
00:44:15.409 --> 00:44:18.946
You've put it in this book and it's for people and you go
00:44:18.946 --> 00:44:22.216
Through it and you make notes in it and you do all the stuff but
00:44:22.216 --> 00:44:29.423
There is a bit of a training system.
00:44:29.423 --> 00:44:32.793
Help our audience know what that is so that they know what do you
00:44:32.793 --> 00:44:38.899
Want to happen when somebody encounters and gives the time
00:44:38.899 --> 00:44:42.603
And does this?
00:44:42.603 --> 00:44:44.605
Ed: super, so first of all, i have a very simple goal.
00:44:44.605 --> 00:44:46.640
There's 8-billion people in the world.
00:44:46.640 --> 00:44:48.776
All i want to see is 8-billion people waking up and the first
00:44:48.776 --> 00:44:51.111
Thing in the morning is them having a 10-minute conversation
00:44:51.111 --> 00:44:53.280
With god.
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:54.648
I think, gosh, if we could just do that across china and india
00:44:54.648 --> 00:44:56.683
And across america and the rest of the country, it would change
00:44:56.683 --> 00:44:58.418
The world.
00:44:58.418 --> 00:44:59.753
It would literally change the world.
00:44:59.753 --> 00:45:01.121
And this, that's my goal.
00:45:01.121 --> 00:45:02.456
So if you'd help me with that goal, that would be great.
00:45:02.456 --> 00:45:04.057
I'll just say, full disclosure, i'm gonna do everything i can to
00:45:04.057 --> 00:45:06.994
Get this book to you.
00:45:06.994 --> 00:45:08.362
If you get it on amazon, it'll be about $18.
00:45:08.362 --> 00:45:10.464
If you just get it from the link below, i'm gonna do about half
00:45:10.464 --> 00:45:12.933
Of that full, just so you know, full disclosure, i'm not gonna
00:45:12.933 --> 00:45:16.470
Make money on this, me getting you this book.
00:45:16.470 --> 00:45:19.306
I want to get this book.
00:45:19.306 --> 00:45:20.674
In fact, i think we'll go a little bit negative, but that's
00:45:20.674 --> 00:45:22.810
How much i care about you.
00:45:22.810 --> 00:45:24.178
I think it's super important.
00:45:24.178 --> 00:45:25.512
The website, i think it's below. it's just tbnbook.
00:45:25.512 --> 00:45:27.181
It's the easiest website that you can remember, but i'm gonna
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00:45:31.518 --> 00:45:33.587
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00:45:33.587 --> 00:45:35.989
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00:45:38.859 --> 00:45:40.861
Created for the background, and they're 15 minutes each, and
00:45:40.861 --> 00:45:43.931
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00:45:43.931 --> 00:45:45.666
All i'm asking from you is 15 minutes a day for 7 days in a
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00:45:49.670 --> 00:45:52.406
And the second thing that i'm going to do is sometime a couple
00:45:52.406 --> 00:45:55.175
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00:45:55.175 --> 00:45:58.645
Gonna do an online zoom training.
00:45:58.645 --> 00:46:00.013
This is literally me.
00:46:00.013 --> 00:46:01.381
This is not pre-recorded or anything like that.
00:46:01.381 --> 00:46:03.250
This is me and you, an opportunity for you to join a
00:46:03.250 --> 00:46:05.552
Group of people and we're gonna do it right on the zoom.
00:46:05.552 --> 00:46:07.354
We're literally gonna start the process.
00:46:07.354 --> 00:46:09.556
We're gonna ask god questions.
00:46:09.556 --> 00:46:10.891
You're gonna be able to maybe even put in chat or share the
00:46:10.891 --> 00:46:13.427
Answers that you have.
00:46:13.427 --> 00:46:14.761
I feel like it's like go time.
00:46:14.761 --> 00:46:16.129
Like, why would you wait, you know, for years and years and
00:46:16.129 --> 00:46:17.731
Years to like try to figure it out when you can just hear from
00:46:17.731 --> 00:46:20.100
God when you want to.
00:46:20.100 --> 00:46:21.535
So yeah, we're gonna give you these at a great deal, just so
00:46:21.535 --> 00:46:25.639
That we can get as many people talking to god as
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:28.275
Humanly possible.
00:46:28.275 --> 00:46:29.610
We've got a world to change.
00:46:29.610 --> 00:46:30.978
We've got a very short period of time to do it, so i figured like
00:46:30.978 --> 00:46:32.980
We might as well get to it and change the world.
00:46:32.980 --> 00:46:36.016
Ed: have you ever wanted to connect with god more deeply or
00:46:36.083 --> 00:46:38.852
Maybe even develop a daily conversational relationship with
00:46:38.852 --> 00:46:43.056
Your creator?
00:46:43.056 --> 00:46:44.424
Listen, there's no better way to do that right now than to get
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00:46:46.627 --> 00:46:49.463
Listen, you can hear from god all day long however you
00:46:49.463 --> 00:46:52.065
Want to.
00:46:52.065 --> 00:46:53.400
I'm just here to tell you that this book will help you do it
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.269
Faster, and second, it's gonna help you train your mind
00:46:55.269 --> 00:46:57.738
For success.
00:46:57.738 --> 00:46:59.072
Now, the website below has not only the book, but it's got a
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00:47:30.771 --> 00:47:32.139
They're my gift to you.
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The background music is amazing, and you can just put your
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Headphones on, close your eyes, and start your conversation
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With god.
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Second, two weeks after this show airs for the very first
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Time, we're going to do a live zoom training.
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This is an opportunity for me and you to interact.
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Maybe you can ask some questions.
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You can do the exercises right with us and the other part of
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The community.
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Listen, now is the time to take action.
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There's no reason not to.
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There's no reason not to take that first step into a more
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Deep, more vibrant, more productive relationship with
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Your creator.
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So go to the website below and make sure to tell me your
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Success story.
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Matt: "god talks," some people listen and i can tell you that,
00:48:06.540 --> 00:48:14.314
Ed, you wouldn't be sitting here today, laurie and i wouldn't be
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Sitting here today, if it wasn't for the beautiful life-changing
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World-changing voice of the lord.
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And i ask you this question, if you go back through and get all
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The stories of the bible, you know, let's do a big one.
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How about moses, okay?
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Moses goes to egypt and basically delivers a whole group
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Of people out of slavery and creates a nation with them.
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And and he does the impossible.
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No, that's not possible.
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You can't just walk in, okay?
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The only way you can do the impossible is to respond to the
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Voice of the lord, okay?
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A lot of people looked at what paul and jan crouch did, my
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Parents, you know, for 40 years, now 53 years ago, and it was
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Largely impossible.
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My dad put a satellite signal everywhere there is in the world
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And--but he was responding to the voice of the lord and he
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Responded to a vision, okay, that he saw and asked the lord,
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What am i seeing?
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And the lord said, "satellite soon," okay?
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My dad got after it and largely in one generation did
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The impossible.
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He put a satellite signal everywhere there's electricity
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In the world.
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That's what hearing the voice of the lord does.
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That's why we care about this program.
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That's why we care about this book.
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That's why we're making the offer and look, ed, i didn't ask
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You to do zoom calls with people and i didn't ask you to--
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That's something you want to do because you want to get on with
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The program.
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Laurie: what about the person sitting at home going, "why
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Would god ever speak to me?
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I'm sitting here.
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I'm listening, of course they're gonna talk to him.
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He's number one fighter pilot or him, whoever you are, you know,
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Why would he ever speak-- why would he ever speak to me?"
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You know, when you're sitting at home, i know who you are.
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Ed: it's such a great question, laurie.
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Thank you for bringing it up.
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It's one of the most common questions i get.
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The most common question, by the way, is how do i know it's god?
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And we do address that in the book.
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But yeah, one of the questions we get is why would god even
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Want to talk to me.
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Let me just tell you that that's part of the software.
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That's literally part of your software that i think god really
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Wants to--not think--i know god wants to remove.
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I've not met a single person--
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I mean, i failed kindergarten, you know, even though, even
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Though i went off to flying top gun, i was sure, positive, the
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First thing i was gonna hear from god was some condemning
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Word about why he was disappointed in me.
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And i can just say if you, if you just have a little courage
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Just to ask the question, see what happens for folks.
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We'll pray. let's do it.
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Thank you, lord.
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We just pray your blessing on the person listening right now.
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It takes some courage to ask that question.
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It takes some courage to ask the first question to god because
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You never know what he's gonna say.
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What i can just say is i've done this with thousands and
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Thousands, tens of thousands of people.
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He always leads with love.
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Thank you, father, for your love, and not only for your
00:51:26.907 --> 00:51:30.644
Love, but thank you, father, because you are love.
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We ask lord that, right now,
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You would move in the hearts of the person watching and
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Listening right now, father, that they have a vision or a
00:51:37.517 --> 00:51:41.221
Purpose or a passion, something that you've called them to do,
00:51:41.221 --> 00:51:43.890
Which is truly extraordinary, no matter how small they think they
00:51:43.890 --> 00:51:46.526
Are, no matter how small, even they think that their impact
00:51:46.526 --> 00:51:50.564
Can be.
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We just release courage in jesus's name,
00:51:51.898 --> 00:51:53.633
Strength and conviction.
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May god bless you and keep you and make his face shone upon you
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In jesus's name, amen.
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Matt: okay, we want god to talk to you and we've made that
00:52:00.140 --> 00:52:05.378
Possible with this and he's wanting to pour out his love on
00:52:05.378 --> 00:52:10.517
You and he's wanting to give you something that literally i think
00:52:10.517 --> 00:52:16.289
The way god does is he encourages you with a word and
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Puts it in your heart
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You get after doing something because that's
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How you find fulfillment.
00:52:27.500 --> 00:52:29.269
Fulfillment doesn't come in a newer car or a faster car or a
00:52:29.269 --> 00:52:33.573
Bigger house with a bigger number of rooms.
00:52:33.573 --> 00:52:37.544
That's not what it does, but when you're accomplishing and
00:52:37.544 --> 00:52:40.914
Waking up and knowing that you're doing something that god
00:52:40.914 --> 00:52:44.284
Set the course for your life to accomplish, that's where it
00:52:44.284 --> 00:52:47.387
Comes from and it starts with god talking.
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I love that.
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"god talks" final word is yours.
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Ed: oh man, first of all, i started the show by just telling
00:52:54.894 --> 00:52:57.631
You guys how much i love you and admire you.
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I just gotta tell you, this is the real deal right here.
00:53:00.533 --> 00:53:03.236
I've seen you go through fire and the flame and come out on
00:53:03.236 --> 00:53:06.139
The other side with your faith.
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So i just wanna just congratulate you for that and
00:53:07.507 --> 00:53:09.542
Thank you for having me on here.
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Thanks for your commitment to helping people hear from god.
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I just say what i said in the beginning of the show.
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The most important thing you can do other than believe in the
00:53:15.715 --> 00:53:19.286
Lord jesus for salvation is to hear from god, to have a direct
00:53:19.286 --> 00:53:22.589
One-on-one conversation with your creator who loves you all
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The way down to the depths of his heart.
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In fact, he loves you so much he sent his only son to die
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For you.
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You kidding me?
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That's how much he loves you and the voice of god is so close.
00:53:32.999 --> 00:53:34.868
In fact, he's speaking to you right now.
00:53:34.868 --> 00:53:36.503
Sometimes you just simply need to tune your frequency to hear
00:53:36.503 --> 00:53:38.838
From him.
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So i would encourage you to have the courage to do that, to take
00:53:40.206 --> 00:53:42.075
That first step just to have a conversation with god, be okay
00:53:42.075 --> 00:53:45.045
With the fact that, you know, that like whatever doubts you
00:53:45.045 --> 00:53:48.581
Have, you're gonna lay on the line as well.
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And welcome to a journey.
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Welcome to the rest of the next part of your life.
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This is gonna be a lot of fun too.
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Matt: a friendship with god awaits, "god talks."
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Thank you, ed. we'll see you next time.
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Ed: thanks, matt.
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Matt: and land that plane for us.
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♪♪♪
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Ed Rush: Faith Beyond Your Mistakes | Praise

September 23, 2025 | 55:52

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