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Gary Zamora: Kingdom Mindset | Praise

June 4, 2026 | 52:30

Gary Zamora joins Matt and Laurie to explore what Jesus meant when He said, “The Kingdom of God is at hand,” and how believers can live with faith, peace, and purpose today.

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Praise | Gary Zamora: Kingdom Mindset | Praise | June 4, 2026

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Male announcer: two thousand years ago, jesus stepped into
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Our world bearing a simple yet profound message, "repent, for
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The kingdom of god is at hand."
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He spoke of it more than he spoke of heaven, more than he
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Spoke of hell, more than he spoke of love or faith or sin.
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His listeners thought they understood what he meant.
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Their long-awaited king had finally come to take up his
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Throne in jerusalem and raise an army to cast their earthly
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Enemies into the sea.
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Yet jesus not only told them to love their enemies, he kept
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Alluding to the kingdom as something else entirely, leaven
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Hidden in flower, treasure buried in a field, a tiny
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Mustard seed planted in the earth whose branches grow into
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The largest of the garden, welcoming all the birds of the
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Field to come perched in its branches, a very different kind
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Of kingdom indeed, and so, many back then missed it just as many
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Still do today.
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For some 2,000 years we've fixed our eyes on the sky, on
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Our governments, on culture, looking for some sign of the
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Kingdom's arrival, and for 2,000 years jesus's own words have
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Echoed back: the kingdom of god comes not with observation, for
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Behold, the kingdom of god is within you.
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What if all this time that we've been waiting on jesus, he's been
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Waiting on us?
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What if we as his followers are meant to be the sign of the
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Kingdom's arrival?
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What if instead of waiting to be rescued, we're meant to live as
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If jesus is already here, reigning and ruling in
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Our midst?
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It's building businesses with integrity that can stand
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For generations.
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It's raising families full of peacemakers that love their
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Neighbor as themselves, whoever that might be.
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It's creating beauty in a world addicted to despair, feeding the
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Hungry, visiting the prisoner, welcoming the stranger.
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Whenever love heals brokenness, mercy triumphs over judgment,
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Justice confronts oppression, and the least of these are
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Treated as bearers of his image, the kingdom increases.
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The kingdom of god was never meant to fill the earth by
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Violently dropping down out of the cloud, but by growing up out
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Of the ground, flowing through us the body of christ.
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It's not an escape from this world, it's participation in the
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Fullness of its restoration, the uniting of all things in heaven
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And earth through jesus christ our lord.
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Matt crouch: beautiful, we are going to take on the subject of
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The kingdom of god.
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You know why that's important, i think?
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It feels like it's what jesus's main central theme was that he
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Preached, and we are asking our pastor, gary zamora, who by the
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Way we've known almost literally forever, to help us take on this
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Subject, okay?
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Gary, you ready for this?
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It's a challenge, you know, because we kind of grew up
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In a similar environment.
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Laurie and i grew up in a similar kind of christian
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Environment, you did too, and the kingdom of god was always a
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Very ethereal thing to me.
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In other words, it was hard for me to understand as a young kid
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What really is it?
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Is it when you do right, you know?
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Is it kind of where you rest in peace forever in heaven, you
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Know, one day?
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You know, there was always these thematic elements that didn't
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Really make a lot of sense to me as a kid, but you know, if you
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Take jesus out of mark 10 and read some of the red words, i
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Think there's a--that that'd be a good way to start it, but it's
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A time when the disciples were with jesus.
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They said, "then they brought the little children to him that
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He might touch them, but the disciples rebuked those who had
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Brought them.
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But when jesus saw it, he was greatly displeased and said to
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Them, 'let the little children come to me and don't forbid
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Them, for of such is the kingdom of god.
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Assuredly, i say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of
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God as a little child will by no means enter into it.'"
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So, it has to be simple if you're supposed to enter as
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A child.
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Pastor, you're a pastor, you get all the hard questions.
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How do you help us start explaining this?
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Gary zamora: that's very true, the kingdom of god jesus related
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To a child, because it should be easier than we've made it.
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You know, i thank god for all the scholars and the
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Theologists, and i love to study in depth myself, but jesus is
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Telling us here that it shouldn't be a requirement to
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Have to have a theologian explain to us what the kingdom
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Of god is.
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And one of the other things that jesus always did is he always
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Made it feel close.
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He always brought the kingdom of god present, because the kingdom
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Of god is--it's an action word, it's active, it's not passive,
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So the kingdom of god is the present reality, and that's how
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Jesus always presented it.
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It's so much easier than we think and so much closer than we
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Would imagine.
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You know, if you were to take the lens of a telescope, you
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Take a telescope, and you turn it around the wrong way, and you
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Look through the big end, everything seems pushed
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Away further.
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I think we've been looking through the right lens from the
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Wrong perspective.
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If you turn it around and look through the eyepiece, it draws
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It in closer.
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That's what jesus did.
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He looked through the lens properly, he encouraged us to
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Look correctly through the lens so it's brought up closer
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Instead of being pushed out farther away.
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Gary: where do we come from?
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We came from the mind of god.
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We came from the kingdom of god, and that kingdom dwells
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Within us.
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And when we receive christ as lord of our lives, he fills us,
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He transforms us.
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The old has passed away, scriptures say, behold, all
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Becomes new.
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Behold means look, so check it out.
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Behold, i'm new.
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I have become anew.
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If we'd learn to live more by faith, which is what we're
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Commanded by the word of god to do, then we can see a lot more
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Of god in us and a lot more of the kingdom of god, and then the
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Question would be, well, how do you see it?
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So that's another question.
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Steve: yeah, it is.
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Well, and we were discussing earlier, and what kind of
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Started us down this path as i brought up, in light of the idea
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Of seeing him in us and what that means and what that means
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For us and our role in the earth, and what it looks like
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For that kingdom to take dominion and for us to take
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Dominion in the earth.
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And i was sharing about how like sometimes i'll be walking around
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Praying for people that i know, whether it's just family, 'cause
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I'm praying for them all the time, or friends or someone
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Going through something, and sometimes it can feel like, i
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Was saying sometimes it can feel like we're reminding god about
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Them, where there's almost this presumptuousness without even
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Trying to--not trying to go there, but it's like, lord, i
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Lift this person up, they're going through such a hard time,
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Would you please be with them?
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He's never not with them, you know?
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And it's almost there's like this--out of our own ignorance
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Sometimes, but there's this presumptuousness sometimes that
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God's--that we need to remind god of something, and it started
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Me realize, well, wait a minute, that can't be true, because
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God's going to love that person far more than i could ever love
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That person.
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God knows what that person needs before they need it, so why is
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It taking me to ask god to say that?
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And then you start going, okay, but if he's inside me, maybe
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There's more to this.
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Now, i can't go help every single person that i might pray
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For, because of a whole bunch of reasons.
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I might not have the resources, i might not be close to them, i
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Might not be whatever.
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They may not want it, they may not want it.
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But that still changes the perspective of how much of the
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Things that we pray for, that we pray god to do, not that we're
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The answer in the world because god doesn't do things, but god
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Does, you see all the time that god wants to do through us.
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And you talk about the idea of, you know, it's the time of
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Joseph, it's the time of abraham, it's the time of moses.
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God doesn't seem very often to just cause changes like almost a
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Magic wand to happen.
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Things that cause amazing things that god does in the earth, he
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Does it through people.
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Matt: the kingdom of god is within us.
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We're gonna get into this and stay on this, but go back.
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Let's do a little bit of a setup thing.
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So, when did you meet gary?
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Because you met him before i did.
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Let's set a little bit of-- let's get a little bit of
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Personal stuff going.
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Laurie crouch: well, probably 14, 14 years old.
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So, he married my best longest friend and kind of scooped her
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Right out from under all of us and married donna back in 1981,
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So i met him.
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He came to my father's service of my dad's and, yeah, and so
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Then my dad invited him to come to our church, and he met donna.
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So we kind of all grew up in those--we did, he's a little
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Older than me and donna.
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Not by much.
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Matt: you can tell by the gray hair.
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Laurie: he's the elder brother, but--
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Gary: just a little.
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Laurie: yeah, so we've known each other for a long time.
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Matt: so we're talking tucson, arizona.
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Laurie's daddy was a pastor there, cliff orndorff, my
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Father-in-law, who loved me, by the way, and probably is the
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Reason i ended up marrying her, but he loved me, and he had a
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Church, and you grew up as a pastor's kid.
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Cliff ministered to you in a service, then you got an
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Invitation, you show up at laurie's dad's church
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All those years ago.
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We're talking what? fifty years ago.
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Laurie: in the '70s.
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Matt: yeah, and it would have been in the '70s.
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You were at our wedding 40 years ago with donna, your wife, who
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You've known since you were little girls, so that's kind of
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The interpersonal story, so if i--
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Gary: well, i can add a little bit to that.
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I was actually headed in the opposite direction, and the lord
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Spoke to me and said turn around and go to--
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Laurie: las cruces.
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Gary: las cruces where cliff's preaching, and all he said is
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Turn around and go to that church in las cruces.
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He said there's someone--
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Laurie: i think it was a hotel, conference room.
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Gary: yeah, there's someone i want you to meet.
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And i'm thinking he wants me to meet a pastor there for some
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Reason, so i go, and he gives me this incredible prophetic word.
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And then he asks me--now, i don't know the man, i've never
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Met your dad before, and he asks me to go and minister in the
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Church, which i understand he typically didn't do that, so i'm
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Thinking, well, that's why god wanted me to meet this guy.
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He wanted--he wants me to go and preach in his church, but
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The truth is, is he wanted me to go and meet my wife, and that's
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Who he wanted me to meet.
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It was a little while down the road i realized why he sent me
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There, so.
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Our steps are so ordered of god, you know, the idea of how
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Watchful god is and just how much he loves us.
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I love the scripture that says and emphasized the word love,
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"for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son."
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And here we are today talking about the kingdom of god.
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Gary: the word says the kingdom of god is within your grasp, and
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That's why we say pulling on heaven.
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Kingdom of god is within our grasp, in our midst with us.
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And when we pull on heaven, we're just saying we're agreeing
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With what god said, and your kingdom come, your will be done
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On earth as in heaven, we're pulling on that.
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It's our way of praying and prophesying and making
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Prophetic decrees.
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Steve: but aren't we supposed to go up there?
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If we pull too hard, it might come down here to earth.
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Gary: ooh, wouldn't that'd be awesome?
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Wouldn't that be great?
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Steve: wouldn't we break everything?
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Gary: i know, right?
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So it seems, right?
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We're gonna pull really hard, steve.
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We're pulling--yeah, your will be done in earth as it is
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In heaven.
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Matt: it feels like the kingdom of god was something that--let
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Me just say that my dad would use that term, the kingdom
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Of god.
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You know, we've gotta prevail, we've gotta do this, and so to
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My dad expanding tbn was expanding the kingdom of god,
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And a lot of, you know, so i was learning some things, but there
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Was a lot of confusion back then, because i would see how
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The kingdom was practical when my dad was in a boardroom
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Signing a contract for a new tv station or buying a satellite
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Service that would put satellite signal, the tbn satellite
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Signal some new place on earth, and so there was a practical
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Side of understanding how you would walk out the kingdom in
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Your life, you would hear god, do what he said, and see it
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Expand, and get the gospel going out, you know, around the world.
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So i saw that real practical side of what the kingdom was,
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But if you'd have taken that away, all i would have had was
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This real churchy kind of it's some ethereal by and by maybe
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What heaven is.
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I might have--from church i might have thought the kingdom
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Of god was just heaven, you know, one day, and jesus truly
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Tried to make us understand that the kingdom is within us and
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That he wants to expand it out through us by let's say the
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Practical things that i saw my dad doing all those years as he
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Was the president of tbn for the first 40 years of
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Tbn's existence.
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So, it feels like i love to hear about it, but i didn't really
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Learn much about it in church.
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It feels like that part of it, it was kind of screwed up, and i
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Didn't really get it.
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Gary: right, well, it almost felt more metaphorical.
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It didn't feel active, prominent.
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It felt passive and distant.
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And that's why jesus talked the way he did.
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Remember the pharisees, they're the ones that came and said, so,
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Show us the kingdom.
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When?
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Tell us when will this kingdom come.
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And i love the way jesus responds, because he said the
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Kingdom of god isn't coming in a way that you can observe it, and
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That's what we all grew up understanding that the kingdom
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Of god is coming, you know, someday.
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Matt: yes, someday it's coming.
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Gary: it's coming, i mean, it's here metaphorically kind of, but
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The real kingdom of god, it's coming, and that would prompt us
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To do different things more aggressively when we thought the
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Time was getting close, you know, i mean, wars and rumors of
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Wars or something, some prophecy would be fulfilled, so we would
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Get excited thinking--
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Matt: the end is near.
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Gary: yeah, the end is near, which means i guess the
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Beginning is coming, but it's that end part, too, that was
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Always so disturbing, because i mean, it sounds like we get beat
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Up pretty good, you know?
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And again, there's a lot of different variations of that,
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You know, pre-, mid-, post-, you know, full preterist, partial
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Preterist, you know, dispensationalist, there were so
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Many things, so it felt like you had to cast a vote as to when,
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You know, we were-- you know,
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Where do we fall into what category?
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You know, who am i?
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So, a lot of the way it was presented made us
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Less connected, more distant, because now we have to decide
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Which theology would we embrace, you know?
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So, cast your ballot, and i have to stand on this side.
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And, you know, most of those arguments have their
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Compelling points.
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So, which one do you fall into?
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And a lot of times it really did, you know, it really did
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Create more anxiety.
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Our society is plagued with anxiety today.
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There's just so much uncertainty.
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But jesus presented the kingdom in such a compelling way, saying
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It's not coming in a way that you can observe it.
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He brought it so much closer.
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You know, he's looking through the right end of the lens
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Regarding the kingdom.
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You know, if you flip the scope around, you can look through the
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Right lens but from the wrong perspective, so it pushes
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Everything out.
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So you read it in the word, you're talking about the right
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Thing, but you're looking through the wrong perspective of
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The lens, so it just seemed to to push it out.
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And then it was dependent on just a lot of events unfolding,
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So the problem is we're paused, we're in a state of suspended
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Animation waiting for this one great and glorious day, and
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Jesus didn't present the kingdom that way.
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Jesus, the scripture tells us he is king of kings and lord of
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Lords, so wherever he is, that's where his kingdom is, so it
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Doesn't come with observation.
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Then he says the kingdom of god is in the midst of you, it's
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Within you.
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And he goes further to say, he said, "what would i liken the
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Kingdom to?
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How could i give you a picture?
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What image would i draw in order to help you understand what i'm
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Saying when i say the kingdom of god is within you?"
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He said the kingdom of god is like a mustard seed.
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He says it's the smallest of seeds in the garden, but when
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It's planted in the earth, he said it grows up into the
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Largest of the garden plants, and the birds of the air can
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Flock and land in its nest, and the animals can rest under
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Its shade.
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Jesus made it so prevalent and so present, but what's so
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Profound to me about that is where he described he planted
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The seed.
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He didn't plant it in the heavens, he didn't plant the
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Kingdom of god as a seed, he didn't describe it as anything
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Related to something coming out of the heavens.
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He said the kingdom of god is planted in the soil, in the
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Earth, kind of reconnects us to for god so loved the world.
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Where would god--where does seed grow the best?
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In soil, in the earth.
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We are the earth.
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From the genesis of time god brought us out of the earth,
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That was his plan, and so god is saying my kingdom grows best,
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It's manifested the best, it's seen and understood the best
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When it comes through you, and you're more closely related to
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What comes through you than you are something that comes to you
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Or at you.
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Gary: if our needs dictate when we use our faith, we'll never
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Know the power of our faith beyond our needs.
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But if we circumvent, if we go beyond the power of need, what
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Would we see?
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No eye has seen, no ear has heard, neither has it entered
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Into the heart of man the things god has prepared for them, and
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That's not just a future event.
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The kingdom of heaven, jesus said, isn't here or there.
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They can't tell you it's over here or over there.
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He said that the kingdom of heaven doesn't come through
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Observation, it comes out of you.
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So when we pray your kingdom come, your will be done, we're
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Expecting, i'm expecting the kingdom of god to be manifest
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Through his people, because that's where god said, that's
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Where jesus said that's where the kingdom is.
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So this is great faith, believing god beyond something
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We need, something that is just necessary and saying, god,
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Beyond necessity, i want to see you manifest that you
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Are glorified.
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Steve: the thought just struck me that, you know, living that
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Way, without living like what you're saying, living where our
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Faith is only related to our needs, then in some ways, that's
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Like we're training god that the only way that he gets to
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Experience our faith is if he keeps us in a place of need.
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Gary: you know, if you were god and wanted relationship,
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You know, what would you do?
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So, why does this happen? why does that happen?
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Well, if we go beyond living with a sense of need, according
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To your faith be it unto you, okay, when we think i wanna have
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Great faith, well, then you're probably gonna have great
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Trials, the trying of your faith so you can experience
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Great faith.
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But, i mean, the woman that he said that bread's meant for
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The--the children's bread aren't meant for the dogs, he
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Was pulling on her faith.
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He wasn't being condescending to the woman.
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He was wanting her faith to rise her up beyond her present
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Situation, and it worked.
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David didn't have to go out and kill goliath.
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No one asked him to do it.
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His brothers told him to go home, and the king said, "you
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Can't do this, you're not a warrior."
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Well, all was true.
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He probably should have went home under the normal
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Circumstances of his dad's request, go take your brothers
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Lunch, see what's going on, bring a report back to me, tell
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Me how it's going.
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Well, he did more than that, so much so his brother got it
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Irritated and said, "you're a troubling little guy.
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You just come here and create-- you're just here, you're just
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Here to spy out everything, just get all involved."
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Well, he was, but he expressed his faith, and that's the
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Same thing.
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Elijah, peter, david, daniel, i mean, they all--daniel, you
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Know, he could have stopped, he could have got on his knees
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Under the window, but he did.
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He stood out in the window, and he just did--
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Great faith expresses god's will, not ours.
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Matt: you said in a service not long ago, you made a statement
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That it's gonna take you a minute to unpack, so i'm gonna
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Drop what you said, then you're gonna have to explain it, okay?
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All right, you said something, and i'm paraphrasing somewhat,
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But you said something like remember that god created man
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When man had no needs, okay?
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So, you think of the garden, you think of the perfect
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Environment, you think of trees with, you know, amazing fruit
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And vegetables and whatever else, and you think of, yeah, i
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Can understand that, and you were likening that to a mindset
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That we could have today, okay?
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So that was a few weeks ago, and i thought that was an
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Interesting thing, because i guess what i was kind of taking
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Away from that is that there is a plan that god gave to adam and
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Eve, have dominion over the earth.
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Jesus is the second adam.
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That makes this kingdom have a weighty responsibility in us,
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That we are the ones that are supposed to expand it, okay?
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In the practical ways that i've discussed, but no needs in the
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Garden, but today we do have needs.
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You know, we have to pay the light bill in here, or it'd
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Be dark.
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You know, there are needs.
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So, explain that how we can have a mindset of that same attitude
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That they had in the garden.
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Gary: i think one of the scriptures that explains what
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Not having a need means when i said that, and it's
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Matthew 6:33.
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Jesus said you're all talking about the things that you need
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And what you're going to wear and what you're going to eat.
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But he said, "i know what you need."
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He said if you'll do this, that answers the question of how am i
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Going to pay the light bill?
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How am i going to pay my mortgage or my rent or, you
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Know, food for the day?
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And jesus said if you seek first the kingdom of god, everything
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Else will be taken care of.
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Everything else comes into place, so that goes all the way
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Back to genesis where god created man in his likeness, men
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And women in his likeness and in his image without need.
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Think about it, they were naked but not ashamed, so you could
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Theoretically say they needed to be clothed, because they were
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Naked, and later on they were ashamed that they were naked,
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But the idea, the understanding is that clothed in the presence
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Of god, his kingdom, he is god, he is king, he is lord, clothed
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In his kingdom, we didn't-- they weren't so aware.
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The word says they were naked, but they weren't ashamed.
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They needed to eat, but they didn't feel that they were in
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Need of anything.
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They had the entire garden around them, and we have to
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Think about that in the same way today.
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Today we have to think about redemption.
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You know, any theology, any new testament theology teaching in
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Order to be accurate, in order to be true and sound has to
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Begin with john 19:30, "it is finished."
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It has to start with the cross, because when god created the
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World and everything that he created in the beginning, he
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Didn't make a mistake.
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His design wasn't flawed, and i think sometimes today we think
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About that design being flawed, you know, things were messed up,
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So god had to kind of come and fix it and make it right, but
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The initial design is perfect.
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I love the scripture that says, my god, his way, his way of
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Doing everything is perfect.
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So we're going back to the initial design where we don't
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Have to live in this reality of how am i going to take care
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Of this?
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How am i going to pay my bill?
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Listen, god will take anxiety out of our society, literally
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Remove it, take a lot of the weight off.
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"come to me all you that labor and are heavy laden, and i'll
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Give you rest," if we'll start thinking more kingdom-minded,
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Present kingdom-minded, and that's what adam and eve thought
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In the garden.
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They didn't need the things that we would think we would need,
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Because they were in the kingdom of god.
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It's returning back to the mind of in the presence of the lord
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All things are taken care of.
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Matthew 6:33, if i seek first the kingdom of god, i'll change
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My mind about a lot of my needs.
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A lot of my worry and concern just seems to evaporate.
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Gary: it's all about seek first the kingdom of god.
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And, you know, you say, well, what is that?
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What is the kingdom of god? is it like a place?
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Oh, it could be a place, you know?
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It could be, you know, is it a dimension, being in a dimension?
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But jesus said the kingdom of god is here right now when he
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Was on the earth.
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He said, the kingdom of god is within you.
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So, i mean, does god like stuff this mini-kingdom inside of us?
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Like, is there a little kingdom, little, as you mentioned
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Earlier, a little lego kingdom that's built on the inside, or
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What does the kingdom of god look like?
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And the kingdom of god is the rule, the realm of a king, which
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Literally means the kingdom will look like the mind of the king,
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You know, because the king's going to make determinations on
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Structures and everyone employed within the kingdom based on how
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He thinks.
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So the kingdom of god is the mind of god.
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And god's saying, christ is saying his mind, his word, his
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Spirit is within you.
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The kingdom of heaven is within you.
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And how many dimensions and dynamics and glories can the
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Kingdom of god take on?
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Well, endless.
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I mean, you know, just as an individual, you know, you can
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Wear your hoodie and your shirt one day, and you might be out in
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Shorts on the beach the next day and then in your scuba stuff,
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You know, or in an airplane with a parachute.
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I mean, we can show up in a lot of different clothes and a lot
00:29:13.841 --> 00:29:18.445
Of different presentations, but the glory of god is endless.
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So there's no end to the kingdom of god on the inside of us, but
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That is where god says it is, and jesus said if you look
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Anyplace else, you're not going to find it, which opens up a
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Really big door to a lot of pretty amazing conversations.
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Matt: let me make you make it super-practical, because you
00:29:39.733 --> 00:29:43.136
Don't sit there and, you know, do like this all day and think
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About the kingdom.
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It's really just an understanding, so help somebody
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Understand what you're saying in that you don't just sit in a
00:29:52.512 --> 00:29:56.149
Chair and dwell on god all day.
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Gary: right, well, some days i sit in a chair and dwell on god
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All day.
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It's where christ said if you will believe.
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If you will believe my steps are ordered of the lord.
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So whatever comes into our lives, god uses some of the most
00:30:11.765 --> 00:30:16.203
Challenging times just to get us closer, and because when we're
00:30:16.203 --> 00:30:20.274
Challenged, we're typically-- especially a believer,
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Where do we go?
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Laurie: the bible. gary: i mean, yeah.
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Laurie: praise and worship.
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Gary: you know, we do a lot of things in a business where we
00:30:27.314 --> 00:30:29.182
Try to make all the right ideas, the right decisions, the right
00:30:29.182 --> 00:30:30.984
Investments, we do a lot of things, you know, i watch when
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You're ready for production, there's so much detail that goes
00:30:33.854 --> 00:30:36.857
Into something like this show right here.
00:30:36.857 --> 00:30:40.494
But when the rubber meets the road and you don't know what to
00:30:40.494 --> 00:30:44.031
Do, where do you go?
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You draw close to him by perspective, by understanding
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You're present with me.
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The kingdom of god is a present reality, it's not a
00:30:50.671 --> 00:30:53.473
Distance to--
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The kingdom of god is more of a person than a place.
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It's about drawing consciously closer to who he is, doing what
00:30:58.745 --> 00:31:03.550
He called us to do, being active regardless, being consistent in
00:31:03.550 --> 00:31:09.690
What god has called us to do, you know, build your businesses,
00:31:09.690 --> 00:31:12.960
Get involved in in the political arena, be an influence on
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Television in every market, in every market of industry.
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You know, look to do something that represents the kingdom of
00:31:21.802 --> 00:31:26.773
God, but just know in your heart that the kingdom of god isn't
00:31:26.773 --> 00:31:32.946
The world around us, the kingdom of god is the lordship in us,
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It's who christ is.
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So, it isn't always about doing anything but praising him,
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Thanking him, god, you're always with me.
00:31:44.157 --> 00:31:46.093
My steps are ordered of the lord.
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You're tried with something, james says count it all joy when
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Your faith is tried.
00:31:52.432 --> 00:31:53.767
Well, who wants to--whoever says, man, i am so excited--
00:31:53.767 --> 00:31:56.670
Laurie: i need a good trial.
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Gary: about, yeah, about the trying of my faith, bring one
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On, god, because i need a little excitement in my life today?
00:32:00.841 --> 00:32:03.477
You know, we don't think like that, but james had a
00:32:03.477 --> 00:32:06.179
Revelation, and what james's revelation is, is i know what
00:32:06.179 --> 00:32:09.716
God does.
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I know what he uses us to draw close when sometimes we get
00:32:11.084 --> 00:32:14.221
Caught up in our fears, our anxieties, our uncertainties,
00:32:14.221 --> 00:32:17.758
And that's why people sometimes will say, you know, i prayed and
00:32:17.758 --> 00:32:20.060
Things got worse.
00:32:20.060 --> 00:32:21.395
No, they didn't get worse, it refocused the lens.
00:32:21.395 --> 00:32:23.864
It turned that lens around.
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So when you look through a telescope properly, what does
00:32:25.232 --> 00:32:27.834
It do?
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It magnifies things.
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What does the scripture say?
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Magnify the lord.
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Psalm says, come, magnify the lord together with us.
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And that's what the kingdom of god is about.
00:32:37.411 --> 00:32:40.347
In egypt the children of israel in egypt, they're in bondage
00:32:40.347 --> 00:32:44.951
40 years, a long time, slavery, they want free, they want to get
00:32:44.951 --> 00:32:51.158
Out of dodge, they want to leave, so god sets them free.
00:32:51.158 --> 00:32:55.028
Kind of like we think about getting out of here.
00:32:55.028 --> 00:32:57.330
God sets them free.
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It really wasn't to their advantage at the time.
00:32:59.833 --> 00:33:02.936
Getting out of where they wanted to be freed from really didn't
00:33:02.936 --> 00:33:06.540
Change much.
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I mean, most of them just died in the desert.
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And god said this, he said, "i led you into a place where there
00:33:10.077 --> 00:33:14.047
Was no water, there were snakes and scorpions and no bread.
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That's where i led you."
00:33:18.485 --> 00:33:20.120
So, what is god saying?
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He said, i did this so you would know that i'm god among you.
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The kingdom of god is god with us, god among us.
00:33:24.224 --> 00:33:28.328
When people ask me, you know, are you pre-, post-, mid-, are
00:33:28.328 --> 00:33:31.164
You full preterist, partial preterist, i say
00:33:31.164 --> 00:33:34.935
I'm emmanuelist.
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I just believe god's with me all the time.
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So regardless of what's taking place, the kingdom of god is
00:33:38.772 --> 00:33:43.143
Within me, it's prominent, it's profound, and that's the way we
00:33:43.143 --> 00:33:46.246
Should all think.
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That's the connection to the kingdom of god.
00:33:47.614 --> 00:33:49.282
I just relate to it in everything.
00:33:49.282 --> 00:33:51.218
God has to be in this, god has to be in the midst of this.
00:33:51.218 --> 00:33:55.455
The people that were led out of egypt, out of prison, out of
00:33:55.455 --> 00:33:59.626
Slavery, the people that enjoyed their freedom were people like
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Caleb, and what was the mindset of caleb that made him so
00:34:04.131 --> 00:34:07.968
Prominent and so victorious in the bible?
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He said, "i just remember the word of the lord.
00:34:10.637 --> 00:34:12.339
I remember the word of the prophet."
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He knew god was with him.
00:34:14.074 --> 00:34:15.642
What made david stand out among all the warriors in saul's army?
00:34:15.642 --> 00:34:20.547
He just said, "how can you defy the armies of god?
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I know god's with me."
00:34:24.684 --> 00:34:26.186
You know, i've said this many times, david didn't defeat
00:34:26.186 --> 00:34:29.289
Goliath because he fought well, he beat goliath because he
00:34:29.289 --> 00:34:33.093
Believed well.
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He just believed well.
00:34:34.427 --> 00:34:35.762
I believe the kingdom of god is present, and it's just, again,
00:34:35.762 --> 00:34:39.633
Drawing it closer, making it a present-day reality and not
00:34:39.633 --> 00:34:45.639
Looking for it to drop out of the sky.
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.775
I often think of jesus when the disciples were looking up after
00:34:48.775 --> 00:34:52.979
He ascended, and kind of like we've done for a long time, just
00:34:52.979 --> 00:34:57.784
Waiting for it to come.
00:34:57.784 --> 00:35:00.520
And you know, pricking our neck and just hoping you know
00:35:00.520 --> 00:35:03.056
Someday, someday, someday, but think about that relationship.
00:35:03.056 --> 00:35:06.159
That's not a close-knit relationship.
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.261
That doesn't feel like god with me.
00:35:08.261 --> 00:35:10.397
It feels like god in the distance, god someday,
00:35:10.397 --> 00:35:13.433
Someday, someday.
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I mean, how many people have went to the grave feeling like
00:35:14.768 --> 00:35:17.804
They never experienced the kingdom of god?
00:35:17.804 --> 00:35:19.539
I think that's a shame, you know?
00:35:19.539 --> 00:35:21.308
And just to realize, wow, the same presence--god is every bit
00:35:21.308 --> 00:35:25.946
As present here as he is there, he's omnipresent.
00:35:25.946 --> 00:35:31.585
He doesn't part himself out.
00:35:31.585 --> 00:35:33.119
It's not like a leg of jesus today and, you know, an arm the
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:36.389
Next day.
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He's fully present, the fullness of god dwelling with us.
00:35:37.724 --> 00:35:39.960
But when the disciples are staring at him, the angels came
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.729
Down and said, "what are you doing staring up into the sky?
00:35:42.729 --> 00:35:47.133
Go out and do what you've been commissioned to do.
00:35:47.133 --> 00:35:49.603
Go preach the kingdom of god is at hand.
00:35:49.603 --> 00:35:52.339
Tell the people i'm here.
00:35:52.339 --> 00:35:53.940
I come quickly, i'm right here, i'm with you.
00:35:53.940 --> 00:35:56.343
I'll never leave you, i'll never forsake you.
00:35:56.343 --> 00:35:59.112
You don't have to feel my absence."
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And theology sometimes makes us, certain teachings makes us feel
00:36:01.548 --> 00:36:04.618
God's absence.
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We're prompted into feeling his absence by saying someday.
00:36:05.986 --> 00:36:10.123
But christ made his presence feel close, close at hand.
00:36:10.123 --> 00:36:15.629
The kingdom of--the words jesus preached, and he said the time
00:36:15.629 --> 00:36:20.066
Is fulfilled.
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I love that, the time is fulfilled.
00:36:22.068 --> 00:36:25.505
The kingdom of god is at hand, in your grasp.
00:36:25.505 --> 00:36:30.677
And the word literally is not about something coming your way.
00:36:30.677 --> 00:36:36.483
The emphasis of the word at hand is come in.
00:36:36.483 --> 00:36:41.421
You know, at dinner time you're outside, you're working, doing
00:36:41.421 --> 00:36:43.890
Whatever you're doing, and someone will say, hey, come in.
00:36:43.890 --> 00:36:48.662
Matt: food's on the table.
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Gary: come in, wash up.
00:36:50.030 --> 00:36:51.364
Food's on the table, repent.
00:36:51.364 --> 00:36:53.867
The kingdom of god is at hand.
00:36:53.867 --> 00:36:55.802
Come in, wash up, repent.
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What does that mean?
00:36:57.837 --> 00:36:59.172
Change your mind about the distance between you and god.
00:36:59.172 --> 00:37:02.108
Change your mind about the distance between you and the
00:37:02.108 --> 00:37:04.678
Kingdom of god.
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Gary: the word says be not conformed to this world, to the
00:37:06.513 --> 00:37:09.983
Pattern of this life, but be ye transformed how?
00:37:09.983 --> 00:37:15.388
By the renewing, the repentance, the rebirth of your mind, be
00:37:15.388 --> 00:37:19.492
Conformed to the ideas of god.
00:37:19.492 --> 00:37:21.928
Don't be conformed to the old ideas.
00:37:21.928 --> 00:37:24.331
I say don't be conned into a form, but be transformed by the
00:37:24.331 --> 00:37:28.234
Renewing of your mind, why?
00:37:28.234 --> 00:37:29.669
So you can prove the good, acceptable, perfect will of god.
00:37:29.669 --> 00:37:34.274
That sounds like the scripture where jesus said, "when you're
00:37:34.274 --> 00:37:36.376
Filled with the spirit, you'll bear witness to me, not
00:37:36.376 --> 00:37:39.512
Yourself, not who you were, to who i am."
00:37:39.512 --> 00:37:42.215
You know, i'll just say it like this, try that and watch what a
00:37:42.215 --> 00:37:46.586
Transformation will take place in your life.
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Matt: you know, you've been talking, and i've been going
00:37:51.191 --> 00:37:55.061
Back into this kind of sunday school environment that i would
00:37:55.061 --> 00:37:58.998
Have--mentioned earlier in the broadcast to say i would have
00:37:58.998 --> 00:38:03.870
Thought going through sunday school and church, and--that
00:38:03.870 --> 00:38:11.311
The kingdom of god was the, you know, by and by, you know,
00:38:11.311 --> 00:38:18.885
Coming later, it's not here now, and what you--i love what you
00:38:18.885 --> 00:38:24.357
Said, i'm an emmanuelist, god with us.
00:38:24.357 --> 00:38:27.961
You know, so the word emmanuel means god with us, an
00:38:27.961 --> 00:38:33.299
Emmanuelist, god is with me.
00:38:33.299 --> 00:38:35.735
What a great way to practically, you know, think about your day.
00:38:35.735 --> 00:38:42.842
My steps are ordered today, he's with me, he's near, the kingdom
00:38:42.842 --> 00:38:47.680
Of god is at hand, it's present, it's within me.
00:38:47.680 --> 00:38:51.451
You know, the holy spirit's been left in us, god is with us, god
00:38:51.451 --> 00:38:55.288
Is in us.
00:38:55.288 --> 00:38:56.623
That's the mindset that you're talking about, and a lot of
00:38:56.623 --> 00:39:01.261
People have only seen the kingdom as this far, distant,
00:39:01.261 --> 00:39:07.100
Far-away thing, and we're talking about it literally being
00:39:07.100 --> 00:39:13.173
Within us.
00:39:13.173 --> 00:39:14.507
Gary: yeah, you're referring to matthew 1:23.
00:39:14.507 --> 00:39:16.676
I remember that, because it's my birthday, but the word says, "a
00:39:16.676 --> 00:39:22.081
Virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his
00:39:22.081 --> 00:39:25.618
Name emmanuel, which is, god with us."
00:39:25.618 --> 00:39:30.223
And it it takes so much pressure off.
00:39:30.223 --> 00:39:32.325
Here's the thing, we don't have to know everything, we just have
00:39:32.325 --> 00:39:37.297
To believe he is everything.
00:39:37.297 --> 00:39:41.134
The scripture talks about the kingdom of god like a treasure.
00:39:41.134 --> 00:39:46.372
Seek what?
00:39:46.372 --> 00:39:47.740
A treasure.
00:39:47.740 --> 00:39:49.075
The kingdom of god is like a man seeking expensive fine pearls.
00:39:49.075 --> 00:39:52.745
The kingdom of god, what is that?
00:39:52.745 --> 00:39:54.180
It's a treasure, and seek and you will find.
00:39:54.180 --> 00:39:58.818
The kingdom of god is a treasure.
00:39:58.818 --> 00:40:00.587
I mean, it's a joy.
00:40:00.587 --> 00:40:03.523
It brings a sense of excitement, and it really--it's an exchange
00:40:03.523 --> 00:40:08.728
For uncertainty and anxiety when we anticipate i'm gonna see god
00:40:08.728 --> 00:40:13.900
In the fire.
00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:15.235
Think of the hebrew children when the king says, "i'm
00:40:15.235 --> 00:40:17.170
Throwing you in the furnace, or you worship my god."
00:40:17.170 --> 00:40:21.608
And they say, "there's no need to even ponder this.
00:40:21.608 --> 00:40:26.746
We know what we'll do.
00:40:26.746 --> 00:40:28.081
Absolutely will not bow down and serve your god."
00:40:28.081 --> 00:40:31.751
And we shouldn't serve fear, we shouldn't serve the idolatry of
00:40:31.751 --> 00:40:36.656
Blaming things and calling everything in our lives that
00:40:36.656 --> 00:40:41.861
Doesn't feel right evil and bad.
00:40:41.861 --> 00:40:43.463
What if god is doing something in your life that's
00:40:43.463 --> 00:40:46.366
Uncomfortable, and you rebuke him for doing it when all things
00:40:46.366 --> 00:40:50.570
Work together for good to them that love god, to them who are
00:40:50.570 --> 00:40:53.506
The called according to his purpose.
00:40:53.506 --> 00:40:55.608
I think we should pause sometimes and think have i made
00:40:55.608 --> 00:40:59.946
An image of my life out of-- have i made troubles and trials
00:40:59.946 --> 00:41:05.919
And image in my life that i wrestle against, or do i really
00:41:05.919 --> 00:41:09.522
Believe that scripture, romans 8:28, all things work together
00:41:09.522 --> 00:41:12.091
For good, my steps are ordered of the lord?
00:41:12.091 --> 00:41:15.228
David, great man of god, the word says his throne was--it
00:41:15.228 --> 00:41:20.300
Resembled the kingdom of god.
00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:21.834
What was his--what were his thoughts when times are hard and
00:41:21.834 --> 00:41:26.506
Need shows up?
00:41:26.506 --> 00:41:27.840
He said, "the lord is my shepherd.
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:29.208
I shall not want."
00:41:29.208 --> 00:41:31.210
Goes back to god made us.
00:41:31.210 --> 00:41:33.546
He made man, created man without the sense of need.
00:41:33.546 --> 00:41:36.849
Our steps are divinely ordered of god.
00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:42.455
"the lord is my shepherd.
00:41:42.455 --> 00:41:44.557
I shall not want.
00:41:44.557 --> 00:41:46.392
He makes me to lie down in green pastures.
00:41:46.392 --> 00:41:48.227
He leads me beside the quieted waters.
00:41:48.227 --> 00:41:50.630
He restores my soul.
00:41:50.630 --> 00:41:52.065
He leads me in the paths of righteousness for his
00:41:52.065 --> 00:41:54.467
Name's sake.
00:41:54.467 --> 00:41:55.802
Even if i walk through the valley in the shadow of death, i
00:41:55.802 --> 00:41:57.570
Won't fear any evil, for you are with me.
00:41:57.570 --> 00:41:59.806
Your rod, your staff, they comfort me.
00:41:59.806 --> 00:42:02.442
You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies.
00:42:02.442 --> 00:42:05.712
You anoint my head with oil, and my cup runs over."
00:42:05.712 --> 00:42:08.514
Cup of joy, and i love this.
00:42:08.514 --> 00:42:10.216
"only good will pursue me all the days of my life, and i'll
00:42:10.216 --> 00:42:14.087
Dwell in the house or the presence of the lord forever."
00:42:14.087 --> 00:42:16.923
That's kingdom mind.
00:42:16.923 --> 00:42:18.591
Shadrach, meshach, and abednego are thrown in the furnace, and
00:42:18.591 --> 00:42:20.927
What they look for in the flame is not death, they look for the
00:42:20.927 --> 00:42:24.230
Hand of god.
00:42:24.230 --> 00:42:25.598
Our god will deliver us.
00:42:25.598 --> 00:42:28.001
Matt: i wanna give you kind of the final thought, but i wanna--
00:42:28.001 --> 00:42:31.204
I want your thoughts on this.
00:42:31.204 --> 00:42:32.572
Laurie: well, psalms 23, i think that encapsulates our life.
00:42:32.572 --> 00:42:37.977
I mean, it's when i'm tired, you're gonna lay me down, you're
00:42:37.977 --> 00:42:41.247
Gonna walk with me through death, you're gonna, you know,
00:42:41.247 --> 00:42:43.683
All the things that i go-- i'll not want anything.
00:42:43.683 --> 00:42:46.219
So that's just kind of a picture, i think, of life where
00:42:46.219 --> 00:42:50.223
God is everything for us, everything to us, and i love,
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Because you--for those that are confused or that don't
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Understand, maybe you're thinking nothing's gonna be good
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Till we get to heaven.
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Until jesus comes back and rescues me, you know, the
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Kingdom of god is not here, but the kingdom of god is changing
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Your perspective into to every step that we take during the
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Day, your day when you wake up, the things that encounter you,
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The things that bring your day to pass, all of that stuff,
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Knowing that god is with me, knowing that he is the answer
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For everything, that just setting my mind on that god is
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With me changes everything.
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That changes everything i think about, everything i might worry
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About, because if god's with me, what are we worrying about, what
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Are we caring about, you know?
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And i think--and i'll say we've been under this teaching for a
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Long time, and sometimes it takes a bit to just change your
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Perspective about what the word of god really says.
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I mean, if we all just took the word of god, because it's all
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Right here, everything you've said is right here, and i think
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That if we just sit with the word of god and listen to what
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He says and actually believe that and actually receive that
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Into our lives, our world changes.
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And now if god's for me, who can be against me?
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All the things that we think that are against me, and it's
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Not, you know, if we can ever catch a break or if we could
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Just get through this or we've just suffered so long and all of
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That, if we can just think what is god saying to me right now
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Through this?
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What is god--there must be something that god--
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I remember the morning of 9/11.
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We were--y'all were taking off from california at the
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Coast, right?
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And that all happened, they wheeled back around, we all got
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Together down at our studios there in hollywood.
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And it was, god, what are you saying to us today?
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You know, one of the worst days in american history, it was
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Like, okay, what's god saying today?
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And i think i've become a lot better when trials, because
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We're all gonna have trials, all that stuff, you know?
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If we just say, okay, i'm gonna get every single promise,
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Everything from god through this.
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I'm gonna walk through this right here, one of the hardest
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Days of my life, i am going to seek his face--
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Matt: at least get revelation.
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Laurie: and i'm gonna get revelation, and those treasures
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That we talked about are found in normally the darkness,
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Normally those times where we're on our knees, those
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Painful times.
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Gary: the light's the brightest in the dark room when you turn
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It on.
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You know, if you--the scripture, if you think about
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This, the scripture says we through much tribulation enter
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Into the kingdom of god, and so what could that possibly
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Be saying?
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Laurie: that it's good for us?
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Gary: like, think about it, god is saying in the times that you
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Can't do it on your own, in the times it just looks like, man,
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God, you know, what--
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I mean, we've all been there, no one's excluded, because it's a
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Plan, it's a setup from god, because that's when we become
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Most desperate for who he is.
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You know, how does christ get on the inside?
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He's king, when he comes in, his kingdom's on the inside, it's
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Just so easy.
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But through tribulation why?
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Because when we become so dependent as the deer pants
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After the water brook, so my soul longs after you.
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That's when revelation comes.
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You know, a lot of the things we thought we needed we decide i
00:46:59.105 --> 00:47:02.742
Didn't really need that.
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There really was a better way, there was a better plan.
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It's such a setup from the loving hand of god.
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Matt: so, kind of final thoughts here, and i wonder if you ought
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To circle back to the simplicity we started with mark, i think
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10:15 or 13 where jesus has the children, and the disciples are
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Trying to shoo the kids away, and he says, "no, bring them to
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Me, and in fact unless you come as a child, you can't even enter
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Into the kingdom."
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It should be simple, it should be something close, simple, easy
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To understand, and a mindset.
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Kind of end with your kind of final thoughts on the simplicity
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Of what we're-- started talking about.
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Gary: you know, when jesus said that, the word says after he
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Said that, he took the children in his arms, and he said such is
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The kingdom of god.
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That's a picture of us, that's a picture of everyone out there,
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That even if you don't love god, he still loves you.
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He wants you to know what his love feels like.
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If you do that, your world changes radically.
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But he takes children into his arms.
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Now, here's the other side of that lens.
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The disciples and some of the people around him are saying,
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"don't bother him, don't bother him, don't bother him, he's busy
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About other things."
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Jesus said, "you don't understand.
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The whole point here is to show everyone the simplicity of love,
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The simplicity of caring, the simplicity of intimacy
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And closeness."
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And he takes them into his arm, he takes a child in his arm, and
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He says, "this is what the kingdom of god looks like.
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I'm king, and here's my child."
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Laurie: me embracing this child is vicariously me embracing you,
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And that is the kingdom.
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Gary: that is the kingdom of god, close, nearby.
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We don't--you know, we think about getting out of here.
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We're here because god wants us here.
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Seed grows best in soil.
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We are the planting of the lord, the trees of righteousness.
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Colossians 1:13 says that he has delivered us from the kingdoms
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Of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his
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Beloved son.
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We're here, here it is, the kingdom of god is close at hand.
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There's really only two things that you need to know in order
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To find whatever you're looking for, and the kingdom of god is
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The same, only two things, what it is, and where it is.
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The kingdom of god is the lordship of christ, and where it
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Is, is right where jesus said it was.
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The kingdom of god is at hand,
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The kingdom of god is within you.
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[music]
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Gary: our father who art in heaven, holy is your name.
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Your kingdom come.
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Be birthed up out of your creation, the earth, as
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You said.
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Your will be done in earth as in heaven.
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So be pleased, so be praised.
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In your mighty name we pray.
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I'm gonna ask you to stand with me for just a minute.
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Think about as you stand up, you're growing up as the kingdom
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Of god within the earth.
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Christ in you, it's all about who he is.
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You die to yourself why?
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So you--when a seed dies, what happens?
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It grows up, where?
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Out of wherever it died.
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The power of a seed is its memory, the promise, and when
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You die to yourself, when a seed dies, what is it--what happens
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To it?
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First thing it does is it breaks earth.
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Impossible, impassable, and it does it anyway.
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It's too soft, it's too tender to do what it does, but it does
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It because god said so.
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From the genesis, he said the seed is in itself, and it will
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Spring forth.
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And what does it do when it breaks its surface?
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It reaches for the light.
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God is light, and in him is no darkness, none at all.
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And then what happens?
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It begins to turn into exactly where it came from.
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So are you.
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You were the planting of the lord.
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This is a day of joy and rejoicing, and you will see the
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Glory of the lord appear and manifest.
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This is that season.
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And we pull upon the heavens of god and declare come down,
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Heavens of god, be poured out a seed in the earth, be glorified.
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Let the glory of the lord be revealed to the nations of the
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Earth in jesus's mighty name, and everybody shouted yeah!
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Gary Zamora: Kingdom Mindset | Praise

June 4, 2026 | 52:30

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