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Isaac Herzog & Mike Huckabee: United in Hope | Praise

July 16, 2026 | 58:0

Dr. O.S. Hawkins sits down with Israeli President Isaac Herzog and U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee to discuss Israel’s history, the enduring U.S.-Israel alliance, regional security, and the hope for lasting peace.

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>> tonight on praise os. hawkins joins us from jerusalem,
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Israel for an exclusive, in-depth conversation inside
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The home of israeli president isaac herzog. here, his
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Perspective on war, peace, rising global anti-semitism,
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And the enduring bond between israel and evangelical
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Christians. plus, u.s. ambassador to israel mike
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Huckabee on faith, diplomacy and why this moment matters
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More than ever.
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>> as i stand here in the holy city of jerusalem, in the
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Beautiful tbn studios that you partners have provided, behind
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Me, we see a panorama of bible history. the most incredible
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Views in the world are right here in our studio. just down
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The hill is mount zion, where 3000 years ago. think about
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That. 3000 years ago, king david established jerusalem as
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The eternal and indivisible capital of israel. and here we
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Stand in this spot, three millennia later in the city of
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Jerusalem, the capital of the jewish state. you know, we
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Evangelicals are some of the strongest supporters of the
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People of israel. and we support israel not because of
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Their politics, not because of any policies that may emerge
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From our government or their government, but we support them
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Because of principle. the principles that we find
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Embedded in the word of god, the promises god has given to
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Us, and the promises god has given to his people israel. you
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Know, there are names that mean a lot. and the name of herzog
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Is legendary in the modern state of israel and throughout
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Their modern history, since 1948, there have been three
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Generations of israelis who have lived, and the name herzog
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Has played a prominent role in every generation of modern
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Israeli history. isaac herzog is the current president of
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Israel. today, he's invited us to come into his home for an
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Exclusive tv in interview with him. so come along with me for
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An upfront and personal visit with isaac herzog, president of
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The state of israel. mr. president, thank you for
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Inviting us into your home. it's a joy for me, an honor for
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Me to allow our tbn family of millions of evangelicals to get
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To know you, to respect you, and even to love you as i have
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In these recent days.
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>> it's a mutual.
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>> and you know, a good name, solomon said, is to be chosen
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Above riches. and there are three generations that have
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Passed now since the founding of the modern state of israel.
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And the name herzog is a good name. can you tell us a little
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Bit about your family history as it relates here?
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>> so my family lineage is is amazing. i mean, usually people
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Don't know much about all of their lineage. i have
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Incredible privilege of knowing my family lineage all the way
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Up to king david. we are descendants of king david, and
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It's written through how do we get it? we get it through
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Rabbis who wrote i'm the, you know, i'm a descendant of so
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And so. my late grandfather, my namesake actually was rabbi
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Isaac halevi herzog. he was a giant of a spiritual leader. he
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Was first chief rabbi of ireland, and then he became
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Chief rabbi of the land of israel. but i'm humbly serving
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My nation in many posts. and now i'm honored to be the head
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Of state of this wonderful nation.
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>> and it's been a joy to see how you've really pastored the
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Nation, especially during these last few days. you know,
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President truman was an evangelical of a southern
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Baptist variety and was the first to recognize the state of
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Israel after ben-gurion declared it in 1948. and i once
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Heard an interesting story. you mentioned your grandfather, the
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First chief rabbi of israel, who visited the white house and
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Visited president truman at the end of the war of independence.
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It's an interesting story.
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>> yes. and he came in 1949 to visit president truman, and he
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Brought with him the holy bible. and when my grandfather gave
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Him the bible and said to him, god placed you in your mother's
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Womb so that you will protect and defend and enable the
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Jewish people to have their own land and state. he had. it's
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Recorded by his biographer that he had tears rolling down his
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Eyes.
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>> do you feel the weight of all of this jewish history as
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You are president of the.
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>> people here? the answer is yes.
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>> i can imagine.
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>> but it comes in the wee hours of the night. i see
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Enormous amount of agony and pain and a huge amount of hope
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And strength. it's complicated since i have a certain sense of
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History, intergenerational history. i'm a freak of history.
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I know what god almighty placed on my shoulders. it's not that
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I carry it alone. honestly. i kind of epitomize and embody
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The story of this nation. this nation is amazing people. you
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Realize that every day i meet bereaved families, families who
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Love the lost their loved ones by fighting and defending our
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Nation and protecting the holy land, or families who relatives
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And loved ones were murdered by terror. but that's not the only
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Story of israel. i meet innovative israelis, brilliant
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Israelis, joyous israelis, powerful israelis who keep on
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Doing good for the world. and the problem is that we are
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Meeting, you know, waves of blasphemy and lies and
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Distortion that don't tell the real story of this incredible
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Nation. we, we here are protecting the free world. we
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Here are the greatest allies of the united states of america.
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And it's a great, huge honor for me to congratulate and
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Express gratitude to the united states of america. blessed be
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The united states of america as it celebrates 250 years of
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Independence. and we both nations drink from the
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Fountains of the bible. it will never change, and we have to
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Learn it and understand it. and everybody who lies and distorts
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The the story of this incredibly vibrant democratic
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Nation knows nothing.
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>> and there are a lot of people who want to divide us.
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>> absolutely.
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>> and anti-semitism, for one thing, is the lie that that
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That never dies.
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>> that's the ancient old plague. and in each generation,
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We have to stand up against it.
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>> exactly.
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>> you read and hear things against jews, which are
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Sickening. the contribution of the jewish world to the united
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States of america, jewish people, or to humanity or to
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The world is amazing. and same goes for this incredible dialog
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Between spiritual leaders of christianity and judaism,
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Because again, we also drink from the same fountains.
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>> and the bible says, if one can chase a thousand, two can
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Chase 10,000. and we've seen what happens when our two
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Nations are in partnership. we talk a lot about our b-2
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Bombers coming to iran and, and into those nuclear sites. but
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We were able to do that because your air force cleared the
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Airspace and had had paved the way for.
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>> that, created huge love and affection between both peoples
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And soldiers. and that's what ought to stay. and naturally, i
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Did. you know, i detach it from politics. there's politics,
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There is international interest. honestly, we you know, when i
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Meet an american, the affinity is instantaneous. right?
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Exactly. we know it.
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>> yeah. and you know, lebanon's in the news today. do
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You have hope that something is going to come from that that's
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Really going to solve part of the problem and hope to bring
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Peace to this?
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>> so we have our concerns. we are not against a diplomatic
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Process and a diplomatic solution to the war. number one,
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We want to know how the nuclear program of iran is undermined
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And stopped. clearly, that, as the president correctly says
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All the time, president trump says iran should not have any
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Nuclear capability. number two, we are worried about the
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Question where the money will be funneled to. will it go to
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The well-being of the iranian people, which they deserve, or
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Will it go to terror proxies and to the war machine of iran
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Against us, because they're the ones calling for our
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Annihilation? number three is the lebanese issue. so these
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Are legitimate questions, and we speak to our american
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Friends openly and frankly. i think, you know, there's a lot
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Of friendship and passion and compassion between the leaders.
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And i think we we need to resolve it amicably together.
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>> you know, when i came into your home a while ago, there
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Was a big banner someone had put across that said, give
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Peace a chance.
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>> still there. it's by one of our neighbors.
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>> yes. and so i, you know, in the in the christian bible,
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Jesus pronounced a blessing on the peacemakers.
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>> yes. not the peace lovers. peacemakers.
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>> yes. sometimes you have to make the peace.
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>> and it's very bold and you need to get to peace. we need
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The peacemakers and we need peace.
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>> and those who really know you know that is your heart.
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>> it is a passion of mine. yes, but i'm not naive. and i'll say
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That october 7th was a wake up call for all israelis. and
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Because we are a vibrant democracy, we are now in
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Elections. elections will be held in october. we will have a
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Big discussions about how and what are the capabilities, the
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Possibilities and the limitations of moving forward
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With our neighbors so that we don't wake up again being naive.
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>> yeah. since october 7th, especially in america and
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Around the world, we're seeing a rise in anti-semitism that
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We've not seen since the pre-holocaust days in nazi
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Germany. that's very alarming to many people. why do you
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Think this is this is so.
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>> it's a mix, a very dangerous cocktail of things. first of
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All, you have dormant anti-semites or or, you know,
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People with convictions who hate jews. unfortunately, with
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The enormous development in social and digital
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Infrastructure, you can have them all in one site. and
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That's extremely dangerous. number two, there's a huge
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Amount of brainwashing against jews and against israel. and
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Number three, there's inherent lack of education in america
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And elsewhere.
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>> you know, one of the more admiring characteristics of of
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Our jewish friends is the way that you people have long
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Memories. you remember, you know, when joshua, before he
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Ever conquested jericho, they stopped at gilgal and built an
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Altar to remember how god had brought them. and every
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Passover in 2000 years of exile next year they said.
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>> in jerusalem, which is really amazing. and we have a
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You know, we never forget our friends. and we always remember.
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Right. but the greatness of our people is that we are people
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From all over the world. we in gathered jews from well over
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I'm your announcer countries into this beautiful holy land.
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Whenever you know, i, my chief strategist is a girl who was
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Born in ethiopia, and she walked 4000km to get here,
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Where family members died on the way. it's a pilgrimage like,
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You know, moses and the hebrews crossing the sea through the
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Sinai desert and getting to the holy land. it's just biblical.
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It's just an amazing biblical story, what we have here.
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>> and we look back to remember those things. but when future
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Generations look back to remember your time and your
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Leadership, how do you want that to be remembered?
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>> so i'll say, i'm not talking about that because i, you know,
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I'm still active and i still want to succeed and do good.
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All i care, really my aim, my strategic aim is to bring
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Israel at 80 to a calmer and safer place. and that's what
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I'm doing both inwards and outwards, meaning i devote a
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Huge amount of time on the internal cohesiveness of the
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Israeli society, meaning also dialog between rival factions
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Dealing with the most painful issues and trying to bring some
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Calm and sanity to the public discourse. and of course,
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Defending the good name and protecting our name all over
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The world.
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>> you mentioned the name of ambassador mike huckabee, dear
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Friend, and our tbn. our tbn audience loves mike huckabee,
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And i had a program here and everything. so how.
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>> his wife, janet.
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>> how has the israeli society welcomed him? they love him.
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>> they love him. he's a star here. yeah. first of all, he's
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A cool guy. and he's a he has a huge heart, compassionate heart.
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He is a gentleman. i mean, in his manners, the way he behaves
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To everybody so kindly and gently is a huge orator
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Explaining american position and defending the american
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Position, understanding the truth, and has incredible moral
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Clarity. it was a huge honor for me to meet you and mike at
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The white rose ceremony last year. it was a huge honor for
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Me. and i think, you know, this is the story of people who do
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Good, both of you.
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>> well thank you. and it was an honor for me to be here and
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To receive that white rose from you. mr. president, i'm not
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Sure that the israeli people know how much evangelicals love
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Them. pray for them. you know, we we read a bible. our
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Christian bible has 66 books with the hebrew bible and the
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Christian bible put together. and at least 63 of those
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Authors are jewish. we read a jewish book every day of.
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>> our amazing. oh, you mean the prophets? everything.
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>> and we can't. we can't read that book every day of our
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Lives without caring deeply for the people who are central.
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>> in israel? first of all, we have huge respect for the
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Evangelical communities all over the world, and i make it
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My point to honor and meet and speak to such groups. they are
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Incredible people who understand the bible in depth.
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We have certain worries and concerns about, you know, the
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Younger generation. are they exposed to the real israel or
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Are they exposed to influences from, you know, the tiktok
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World and other world who superficially do not analyze
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The real situation? you know, this land is a land of the
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Pursuit of full equality by all. it's multicultural, it has all
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Religions and has all faiths prospering here in the most
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Beautiful manner possible. people from all over the world,
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You know, african jews and asian jews and american jews
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And european jews. they all come here. and our message to
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The world is that we want to extend an olive branch for
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Peace. unfortunately, we live in an era where there are huge
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Challenges of war, but we shall overcome them. and with our
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Friends around the world, we need to move forward and
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Hopefully bring real peace as written in the bible to our
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Nation.
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>> and that's what we do. as psalm 122 admonishes us to pray
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For the peace of jerusalem as we kind of close this time
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Together. is there one word that describes israel today and
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Maybe why?
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>> well, it's a beautiful question because there are many,
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Many worlds where many, many words. i actually, you know,
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I'm impressed day in and day out. but what i call resilience,
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This nation shows immense resilience. think about it.
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Think about a nation. i'll give you a story this week since i
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Meet every day bereaved families. i met with the family
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Of a guy who fell in battle. his name was dan mori. he was
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43 years old, meaning he left home already at the age. you
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Don't need to conscript simply to defend our people. and i was
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Asked to meet his family and especially to honor his
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Grandmother for being i'm your announcer years old. and she
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Comes in here with a whole beautiful family, like four
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Generations. she's gone through the through auschwitz,
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Auschwitz concentration camp at the age of 20. and that's what
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I'm saying, that this is the resilience of israel. i looked
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At these families. i looked at his kids, her great
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Grandchildren, and they're all incredible people. and they
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Understand that we are called to duty now. and hopefully,
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Hopefully these kids will have peace.
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>> one of the things that amazes me is my wife and i have
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Been coming here for 50 years every year. thank you. and we
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Know many, many israelis and every single one of them has a
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Story about something in their family somewhat similar to that.
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So your prophet jeremiah said in chapter 31 that the sun and
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The moon and the stars are in a fixed order. and the prophet
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Said, if this order ever ceases to exist, so will the nation of
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Israel cease to exist. so as long as we go out tonight and
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Look at that moon or see that sunrise in the morning, we know
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That god is watching over the land of israel. we've got your
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Back. thank you so much. and may i just say finally to you,
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What a what a gentile by the name of ruth said to a jew by
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The name of naomi, your people shall be my people and your god.
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My god. god bless you, mr. president. thank you for your
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Time. greetings from the beautiful tbn studio here in
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The holy city of jerusalem. you know so many incredible events,
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Biblical events that have formed and fashioned our lives
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Took place in the eyesight of where we're sitting right here.
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I mean, from here, we can we can see mount zion. we can see
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Where jesus in the upper room ate his last meal with his
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Disciples, and then how they walked out of there. after
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Singing a hymn down through the kidron valley, across the brook
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Kidron that was flowing that night, red with the blood of
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The sacrifices from up above on the temple mount that flowed
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Out through the brook kidron, as he walked into the garden of
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Gethsemane, reminded that he was about to play the ultimate
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Price for the sins of the world. there in gethsemane, agonizing
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In prayer, sweating drops of blood, arrested, brought to the
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House of caiaphas. on and on we could go. so many things that
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Took place right here behind me. you see the mount of ascension,
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The mount of olives, where jesus ascended, and where the
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Bible says one day he's coming back to receive us unto himself.
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That mountain is going to cleave from the east to the
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West. he's going to walk through the eastern gate and
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Set up his earthly kingdom. so what a setting to sit here with.
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Tbn's favorite host, mike huckabee, our present
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Ambassador to israel from the united states. welcome back to
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The tbn family ambassador.
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>> it is so nice to be here. i do miss doing the tbn show. it
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Was maybe the best seven and a half years of my life in terms
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Of just something that was fun. being governor was pretty cool.
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Being ambassador was pretty cool, but that show was so much
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Fun, and the tbn family became like my family, the greatest
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People i've ever worked with in terms of the just attitude that
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Everyone on the staff had, from the camera operators to the
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People in the booth, to the folks that everyone saw on
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Stage. it was just a fantastic experience. so nice to be back.
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>> well, every time i was in your studio in nashville, it
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Appeared that everybody on your staff there was really like
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Your family. there was so much love and so much unity there
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That it was a it was a tremendous blessing to see
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Better.
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>> than any church i've ever been a part of.
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>> that's not hard to believe.
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>> no, it was really great.
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>> the you know, one of the things that that that strikes
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Me is we're thrilled that you're here at the ambassador,
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But we've all been having withdrawals on saturday nights
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Because we don't have huckabee on, on saturday nights anymore.
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So we're going to look forward to your time coming to an end
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Here and getting back on tbn and being with us. you know,
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Both of us have been to this city over the last half a
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Century, over a hundred times. but but you now for coming up
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On two years have been living 24 over seven in here in the
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City of jerusalem. has your has your perception really of the
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People of israel and the city of jerusalem changed at all by
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Being here as a permanent resident?
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>> not really changed. it's strengthened. maybe i've
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Deepened my understanding of things, of what makes this land
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Tick, why it works when frankly, it shouldn't. and in many ways,
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People ask me all the time, what's your biggest surprise? i
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Said, well, there really hasn't been a surprise. i mean, i've
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Been here so many times that it's hard to be surprised. but
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Here's maybe one thing that has become really genuine. it's a
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Very livable place to be. jerusalem is an incredible city.
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I think it's the most interesting city in the whole
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World. i've been all over the world, as have you. but there's
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Something magnetic about jerusalem now. i know a lot of
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It is spiritual, because if you're a bible believing
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Christian, you cannot come to this city and not be
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Overwhelmed by what happened here, the history of it. but
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Just as a very modern city, it is just an extraordinary place
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To actually live. and i think people were wondering, well,
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It's one thing to visit there for a few weeks at a time. what
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About living there? i'd say living here has been wonderful.
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>> well, i know that you and janet have become a a a great
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Part of this city. i was visiting with the president,
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Isaac herzog, just yesterday, and he was telling me how this
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Whole city has embraced you as a couple and loving you in such
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A wonderful way. in fact, our friend, our mutual friend,
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Samuel smadja, told me that this past week, janet, your
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Wife, spent a whole day at the office stuffing envelopes for
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Samaritan's purse and franklin graham's ministry. so she's
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Volunteering everywhere.
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>> she loves spp. she's been a samaritan's purse volunteer for
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Many, many years. and when she found out they had an office
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Here, she couldn't wait to go and be part of it. and my guess
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Is that she stuffed envelopes and she told everyone else
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There how to do it to.
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>> well, and she probably told them, right. i'm sure.
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>> i'm sure she did. but yeah, that's probably the way it went
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Down.
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>> you know, we were talking a moment ago about this city and
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When, when i would tell people in dallas that i was coming
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Over here a couple of weeks ago, i'd tell them i was coming here
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To jerusalem to see you and to tape this interview. it was
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Amazing how many of them said, aren't you afraid, jerusalem?
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Aren't you afraid, though, that bullets are going to be flying
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Or shells are going to be dropping? and, you know, i
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Walked 2 or 3 miles every morning. i've been doing it
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Since i've been in the city here all through the old city.
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After daylight comes and all over the city of jerusalem at
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Night, i take a walk every night. i have never felt safer
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Than i felt. i would not walk around dallas at night. but i
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Walk all over the city of jerusalem every night, and i've
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Never seen it feel safer than it is right now.
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>> yeah, people think of maybe what they see on tv or what
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They hear. they have a perception that it's totally
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Off base. in fact, i was back in washington the last week
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Working on the lebanon peace talks, and i'd been back a few
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Times, and i was telling one of my friends, i said, you know, i
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Can't wait to get out of this crazy city of washington and
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Get back to jerusalem, where i feel safe. he started laughing.
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He thought it was a punch line that i was telling a joke. i
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Said, no, i'm not kidding. i feel safe in jerusalem. and
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Honestly, os even during the height of the war, not going to
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Tell you it was pleasant. you know, nobody likes to go to the
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Shelter several times a day or night, have your sleep
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Interrupted. but the fact there are ubiquitous shelters
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Throughout israel, and there's a missile defense system that
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Is so sophisticated, it took down 92% of all the incoming
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Ballistic missiles. was there danger? yes, but here's just a
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Whole cold, hard fact. there was not one fatality. there was
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Not one injury to anyone in the entire nation of israel who was
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In a shelter when a missile came in. not one. now, where
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Else in the world is that the case? so i'll put it this way.
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I would bring my grandchildren here right now and not flinch
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And not say, you, i don't know, i yeah, i would do it because i
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Would feel that we're protected, we're safe, that if something
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Were to erupt, we know how to get to the shelters, we know
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Where they are, and we would certainly do it.
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>> well, let me get to the elephant in the room, okay, for
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Just a moment. because inquiring minds want to know,
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You know, israel and the united states have had such a strong
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Bond and have such a strong bond. and yet there been some
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Recent days where tensions seem to be heightened a little bit.
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What is your take on the state of u.s. and israeli relations
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Today?
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>> well, i think generally they're very good. and i will
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Say this, that during what was six and a half weeks of very
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Intense conflict with iran, the military of the united states
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And the military of israel worked in a way that was
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Unprecedented. earlier today, i had a meeting with admiral brad
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Cooper, who's the head of centcom, on several occasions
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Over the past few weeks, when i've talked with him, he
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Reminds me that in the history of american military and
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Certainly in his lifelong experience, there has never
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Been a partnership like we have experienced with israel. if you
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Could have gone to the command center during the height of the
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War, you'd have seen all of these high ranking people
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Sitting at the table running the operation. and if you had
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Not noticed this patches on their sleeve, you would not
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Have known which one were the americans and which ones were
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The israelis, because they were shoulder to shoulder. when i
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Tell you it was a joint operation, we're talking
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Wingtip to wingtip as fighters flew. we're talking a level of
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Cooperation and coordination that not only was incredibly
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Effective, but it guaranteed the safety of both american and
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Israeli soldiers and pilots, the likes of which we've never
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In our entire history experienced. the same would be
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True of our intelligence. we have a seamless relationship
00:28:04.940 --> 00:28:09.445
Between us intelligences like the cia, the nsc, nsa, military
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Intelligence, and the mossad of israel and their defense
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Intelligence agency. the value of that to the united states is
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That we're able to complement each other with pieces of the
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Puzzle being put together. and when you form this partnership,
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It is an alliance the likes of which is almost insurmountable.
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Have there been tensions since the iran mou has been announced?
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Sure. anxiety about it, because i think most people in israel
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Don't trust that anything the iranians ever agree to do that
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They will keep. but i'm not sure that the americans
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Honestly believe the iranians will keep it anyway. we can
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Hope so. we are experiencing, for the most part, a cease fire.
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But the bonds between the us and israel are broader than
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Military and intelligence and economic. and there are some
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Huge economic partnerships. it goes back to a foundation of a
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Value system, the likes of which we share with israel. and
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Unlike anyone else, we are a nation. the us, founded on
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Biblical values. now, people can argue that if they want to,
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But you can't really deny where our history is, who we are, and
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In that respect, we share something very much in common
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With the land and the people of israel.
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>> you know, one of the one of the illustrations of what
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You're saying, first of all, in this world climate we're living
00:29:43.138 --> 00:29:46.642
In today, we need each other more than we've ever needed
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Each other. and i know that president trump has declared
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That that iran is never going to have a nuclear weapon. and i,
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We we not watching and so proud of the way those b-2 bombers
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Flew as far as they flew and decimated those nuclear sites.
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But had the israeli air force not already knocked out all
00:30:08.163 --> 00:30:12.601
Their air defense systems and all the other things that were
00:30:12.601 --> 00:30:15.370
There the week before, it would have been a much more difficult
00:30:15.370 --> 00:30:19.308
Mission to accomplish. so we need each other. and it's, it's,
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It's, it's a beautiful thing to see the strong relationship
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That is existing between the us and israel today. well,
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Recently you made a statement that one of the things i love
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About you as ambassador, a lot of diplomats are always going
00:30:35.090 --> 00:30:39.194
Around like that, seeing which way the wind's blowing. really,
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You speak from your heart and you made a statement recently
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That was misunderstood, misquoted, misrepresented by a
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Lot of the world media that i wanted to bring up and give you
00:30:51.139 --> 00:30:54.610
An opportunity just to tell us today what you meant when you
00:30:54.610 --> 00:30:57.946
Really said america would not exist without israel. yeah.
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>> well, it's it's really simple. and i'm not talking
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About the present day government of israel. i'm
00:31:06.455 --> 00:31:08.457
Talking about the larger context of israel and the god
00:31:08.457 --> 00:31:11.927
Of abraham, isaac and jacob. so here's what i meant by that.
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And i stand by it. i will not recant, and i will not even
00:31:15.364 --> 00:31:18.533
Recoil from it because i believe it to be so true and
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Frankly, irrevocably and indisputably true. here's what
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I mean. israel was created because god told abraham, i
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Choose you and i create a people, the jewish people, and
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Upon your people i will give you a purpose. and the purpose
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Is to receive from me the law, the instruction book, if you
00:31:41.056 --> 00:31:45.294
Will, how to live and what is expected. and with that comes
00:31:45.294 --> 00:31:51.133
Also a mission to spread it to the world. and through you the
00:31:51.133 --> 00:31:54.937
World will be blessed, and those who bless you will be
00:31:54.937 --> 00:31:57.773
Blessed. and those who curse you will be cursed. so, god,
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Whether anyone likes it or not, selected the jewish people to
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Be an instrument through which he would bring his law. it is
00:32:04.112 --> 00:32:08.417
The jewish foundation upon which christianity is built.
00:32:08.417 --> 00:32:12.354
People can argue all they want to. jesus was jewish, the early
00:32:12.354 --> 00:32:16.325
Church. they were all jews. everything about the new
00:32:16.325 --> 00:32:19.928
Testament is built upon the old testament. if a person says, i
00:32:19.928 --> 00:32:23.231
Don't really care for the old testament, then it's like
00:32:23.231 --> 00:32:26.368
Throwing out most of the new testament, because the old
00:32:26.368 --> 00:32:29.671
Testament is that upon which the new testament is built. so
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As christian believers, we owe the foundation of our faith to
00:32:33.275 --> 00:32:39.381
The jewish faith. without the jews, there would be no
00:32:39.381 --> 00:32:42.985
Christianity. so here's the way i look at it. it is the jewish
00:32:42.985 --> 00:32:46.955
People upon which christianity is built. it is the
00:32:46.955 --> 00:32:49.791
Judeo-christian foundation upon which western civilization was
00:32:49.791 --> 00:32:52.694
Built. if there was no western civilization, the idea of the
00:32:52.694 --> 00:32:57.032
Sanctity of the individual, where did that come from? from
00:32:57.032 --> 00:32:59.234
The god of abraham, isaac and jacob. exactly where did that
00:32:59.234 --> 00:33:02.137
Get into motion in government? was it from ancient rome? no.
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Was it from ancient greece? no. was it from the ottoman empire?
00:33:05.674 --> 00:33:09.711
No. there was one foundation from which this incredible
00:33:09.711 --> 00:33:13.949
Revolutionary idea, that was the genesis of america. it came
00:33:13.949 --> 00:33:17.619
From the judeo-christian understanding of the sanctity
00:33:17.619 --> 00:33:20.956
Of the individual, the worth, the value of each person, and
00:33:20.956 --> 00:33:25.427
The rights that come to each person are a gift from god, not
00:33:25.427 --> 00:33:30.499
From any government. if there had not been an israel, there
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Would never have been an america. that's my point. it is
00:33:34.469 --> 00:33:37.739
An evolution of geopolitical thought. it is also an
00:33:37.739 --> 00:33:42.044
Evolution of biblical reality that ultimately led to the
00:33:42.044 --> 00:33:46.715
Creation. now our founders understood this os. a lot of
00:33:46.715 --> 00:33:50.252
Americans seem to forget their own history in the u.s. supreme
00:33:50.252 --> 00:33:53.588
Court. the ten commandments are on the wall. why the ten
00:33:53.588 --> 00:33:57.159
Commandments? because that's the foundation of all law. in
00:33:57.159 --> 00:34:00.762
The u.s. congress, there is a marble depiction of moses
00:34:00.762 --> 00:34:05.867
Parting the red sea. why? because the founders viewed the
00:34:05.867 --> 00:34:11.573
Exodus of the jews in the same way that they viewed the coming
00:34:11.573 --> 00:34:15.544
Of people to america to start a new life and to create a new
00:34:15.544 --> 00:34:19.448
Nation. the. the picture of the red sea is what ben franklin
00:34:19.448 --> 00:34:23.452
Wanted to be on the great seal, as did thomas jefferson and
00:34:23.452 --> 00:34:26.021
John adams ended up. they decided not to. but if you read
00:34:26.021 --> 00:34:32.327
The founders look at the early documents, even read the first
00:34:32.327 --> 00:34:36.031
Line of the. the declaration of independence that we hold these
00:34:36.031 --> 00:34:40.235
Truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
00:34:40.235 --> 00:34:43.138
Endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
00:34:43.138 --> 00:34:46.141
Among these life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. where
00:34:46.141 --> 00:34:48.543
Does that come from? it came from this long line of the
00:34:48.543 --> 00:34:53.181
Judeo-christian western civilization foundation upon
00:34:53.181 --> 00:34:56.084
Which america was built. so for those who want to argue with me,
00:34:56.084 --> 00:34:59.955
Argue all you want, but read the history. look at the
00:34:59.955 --> 00:35:04.025
Reality. america is unapologetically built on that
00:35:04.025 --> 00:35:07.629
Foundation. if there had never been an israel, it's like, had
00:35:07.629 --> 00:35:10.132
There never been a seed, there wouldn't have been a tomato. so
00:35:10.132 --> 00:35:13.735
Without the seed that was planted right here behind us in
00:35:13.735 --> 00:35:17.372
This city right here, i'm just saying, where would of america
00:35:17.372 --> 00:35:22.144
Have even come from?
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>> and that's why we love you, and that's why we pray for you.
00:35:23.445 --> 00:35:26.481
And that's why we thank god that he's given you this
00:35:26.481 --> 00:35:29.618
Platform of ministry here as our ambassador and everything
00:35:29.618 --> 00:35:32.454
You've said, we can see from right here, mount moriah is
00:35:32.454 --> 00:35:36.091
Right there for we celebrating 250 years this year of america.
00:35:36.091 --> 00:35:41.129
4000 years ago, abraham sacrificed isaac. their mount
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Zion is. i'm looking at it right now. 3000 years ago,
00:35:45.100 --> 00:35:49.037
David established jerusalem as the capital of israel. so
00:35:49.037 --> 00:35:51.840
You're you're exactly right. we read a jewish book, 66 authors
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:56.878
In the hebrew and christian bible put together our old and
00:35:56.878 --> 00:35:59.514
New testaments. at least 63 of them were jews. we read a
00:35:59.514 --> 00:36:05.620
Jewish bible as evangelicals every day. how can we do that
00:36:05.620 --> 00:36:09.524
And not care deeply for the people who are central to the
00:36:09.524 --> 00:36:14.196
Whole story?
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>> i don't think we can. you know, i here today, there is a
00:36:15.664 --> 00:36:18.767
Very dangerous theology that is taking root in some circles of
00:36:18.767 --> 00:36:22.103
America. and unfortunately, even among some evangelicals,
00:36:22.103 --> 00:36:25.407
Some call it replacement theology. it means that god
00:36:25.407 --> 00:36:29.010
Made a covenant with the jews, but the jews didn't do so well
00:36:29.010 --> 00:36:33.248
With it. and so god said, okay, i'm done with you. i'm going to
00:36:33.248 --> 00:36:36.618
Make a new covenant. it's going to be with the christians. and
00:36:36.618 --> 00:36:39.521
Therefore god broke the covenant with the jews. and now
00:36:39.521 --> 00:36:42.257
It's all about the christians. there are several problems to
00:36:42.257 --> 00:36:44.459
That, the first of which is scripture itself and romans 11.
00:36:44.459 --> 00:36:47.462
It makes very clear that god didn't break his covenant with
00:36:47.462 --> 00:36:50.932
The jews. he grafted the christian believers into. but
00:36:50.932 --> 00:36:56.037
He didn't remove the original trunk of the tree. that's part
00:36:56.037 --> 00:37:00.242
Of it. but simple common sense and logic would tell us that if
00:37:00.242 --> 00:37:04.980
God were capable of breaking a covenant, which he isn't,
00:37:04.980 --> 00:37:08.183
Because he's god and he's immutable, he is perfect. and
00:37:08.183 --> 00:37:12.120
If god broke a covenant, it would mean that he made a
00:37:12.120 --> 00:37:15.790
Promise that he did not keep. now i make promises to god that
00:37:15.790 --> 00:37:19.561
I don't keep. jewish people have made promises to god they
00:37:19.561 --> 00:37:22.597
Didn't keep. but god never breaks a promise. he does not
00:37:22.597 --> 00:37:26.968
Break his covenant. i think it really is in the realm of
00:37:26.968 --> 00:37:31.172
Heresy. and i would use the word that it is sacrilege to
00:37:31.172 --> 00:37:38.146
Say that god could break his covenant.
00:37:38.146 --> 00:37:40.615
>> thank you for saying that. and the truth is, if god broke
00:37:40.615 --> 00:37:43.718
His covenant with the jewish people, what hope do we have
00:37:43.718 --> 00:37:48.189
That he wouldn't break his covenant that he's made with us?
00:37:48.189 --> 00:37:50.992
You know, on another subject, we're seeing a rise in
00:37:50.992 --> 00:37:55.764
Anti-semitism in the west, literally like we haven't seen
00:37:55.764 --> 00:37:59.301
Since the 1930s, in the days of pre-holocaust nazi germany.
00:37:59.301 --> 00:38:03.972
It's a manifesting itself everywhere in politics and in
00:38:03.972 --> 00:38:09.044
Education, in everywhere. why do you think there's just this
00:38:09.044 --> 00:38:13.381
Massive move of anti-semitism across the world?
00:38:13.381 --> 00:38:16.217
>> let's first of all tell you what it is not. it is not
00:38:16.217 --> 00:38:19.421
Because the jews are so amazingly large that they could
00:38:19.421 --> 00:38:24.626
Take over the world. they represent 0.2% of the world's
00:38:24.626 --> 00:38:28.797
Population, 16 million jews in the whole world, out of 4.5
00:38:28.797 --> 00:38:33.935
Billion people, 0.2%. if we're talking numbers, they really
00:38:33.935 --> 00:38:39.974
Don't threaten the world. i think that the real answer and
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I reserve the right to be wrong. i think it's a spiritual answer.
00:38:44.379 --> 00:38:47.615
Amen. it's not economic. it's not political, not diplomatic,
00:38:47.615 --> 00:38:50.819
And it's not geographical. israel occupies a postage stamp
00:38:50.819 --> 00:38:55.957
Of real estate in the middle east. arab controlled countries,
00:38:55.957 --> 00:38:59.794
Muslim controlled countries have 644 times the amount of
00:38:59.794 --> 00:39:04.132
Real estate that israel does. it has the amount, as we all
00:39:04.132 --> 00:39:08.770
Kind of use the phrase the size of new jersey, not one of the
00:39:08.770 --> 00:39:11.873
Larger states in america. and of that small footprint, only
00:39:11.873 --> 00:39:17.112
35% of the land is even used, 65% is desert and uninhabitable.
00:39:17.112 --> 00:39:23.184
So that's not the answer. so what is it? i believe that it's
00:39:23.184 --> 00:39:27.589
A spiritual rebellion against god. and if there is a world in
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Which people reject the notion of a unitary, of a soul, of a
00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:37.232
Monotheistic god, one god, not a bunch of gods, but one god.
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And if you reject that because you want to have your own god,
00:39:40.502 --> 00:39:43.838
You want to make him into your own image, rather than
00:39:43.838 --> 00:39:46.207
Recognizing that god made us into his image. and you want to
00:39:46.207 --> 00:39:49.511
Live a life of debauchery and rebellion? well, a god who says,
00:39:49.511 --> 00:39:56.017
This is what's right and this is what's wrong, that god is a
00:39:56.017 --> 00:39:58.887
Threat to that. so in rejecting god, you look around and you
00:39:58.887 --> 00:40:03.825
Say, okay, who represents him? well, you come to this city and
00:40:03.825 --> 00:40:07.028
You realize, well, the jewish people say, we met god here.
00:40:07.028 --> 00:40:11.433
This is where it all started. you could argue with mount
00:40:11.433 --> 00:40:14.302
Sinai and the giving of the law, but it was within this overall
00:40:14.302 --> 00:40:19.040
Land. but it's very clear. god called the jewish people, and
00:40:19.040 --> 00:40:24.112
He said, i'm going to give you the law. i'm going to tell you
00:40:24.112 --> 00:40:27.215
Who i am, and you're going to tell the world who i am. and if
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I want to reject god, i want to reject him all the way back to
00:40:31.219 --> 00:40:35.123
Whoever started him. and that would be the jewish people.
00:40:35.123 --> 00:40:38.059
Yeah. and if if satan can get people to believe that god is
00:40:38.059 --> 00:40:44.165
Not to be trusted, he's not to be believed. he's not to be
00:40:44.165 --> 00:40:47.402
Worshiped and followed. and you can make up your own rules. you
00:40:47.402 --> 00:40:50.638
Can live, as it said in the time of the judges, where
00:40:50.638 --> 00:40:53.641
Everyone did what was right in his own eyes. if you can get
00:40:53.641 --> 00:40:56.678
The world to buy into that and reject the notion that there's
00:40:56.678 --> 00:40:59.781
Only one god, one law, one light, one lord, then you're
00:40:59.781 --> 00:41:03.351
Going to be anti-semitic and you're going to fight for that,
00:41:03.351 --> 00:41:06.254
And you're going to try to squash the idea. so i think a
00:41:06.254 --> 00:41:09.724
Lot of it, while we look for answers that frankly, none of
00:41:09.724 --> 00:41:13.027
It makes sense. it's irrational for people to hate jews. why?
00:41:13.027 --> 00:41:17.599
What did you do to you? you know, they, they really they
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.337
Haven't really interacted with enough people on earth to be a
00:41:22.337 --> 00:41:26.274
Problem. but if it's a spiritual rejection and
00:41:26.274 --> 00:41:31.679
Rebellion against the one true and living god, then
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:36.017
Anti-semitism begins to make some sense, not some sense in
00:41:36.017 --> 00:41:39.954
The no real way, but it's understandable why there would
00:41:39.954 --> 00:41:44.292
Be such a hateful reaction toward jewish people.
00:41:44.292 --> 00:41:47.695
>> so beautifully said. and and it is demonic. it is a
00:41:47.695 --> 00:41:51.933
Spiritual warfare that the jews not only gave us the bible as
00:41:51.933 --> 00:41:55.103
We're talking about, they gave us our messiah. and no wonder
00:41:55.103 --> 00:41:59.807
We're seeing that rise. well, as we tape this, i know
00:41:59.807 --> 00:42:03.044
Recently you've returned from the peace talks with lebanon.
00:42:03.044 --> 00:42:06.614
And as we look at gaza and iran and lebanon today and so many
00:42:06.614 --> 00:42:13.154
Other things that are swirling around this country, are you
00:42:13.154 --> 00:42:16.324
More hopeful or more concerned than you were when you got here
00:42:16.324 --> 00:42:19.928
A year and a half ago?
00:42:19.928 --> 00:42:22.063
>> you know, i'm a little of both. and i know that sounds
00:42:22.063 --> 00:42:25.199
Like a contradiction. look, i'm hopeful because i've read the
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.602
End of the book and i know in the end, god wins. i want to be
00:42:27.602 --> 00:42:32.540
On his side. it's not that god is going to be on my side. i'm
00:42:32.540 --> 00:42:36.644
Going to be on his side. i don't have a side. i'm not
00:42:36.644 --> 00:42:39.714
Smart enough. i'm not strong enough to pick a side and to
00:42:39.714 --> 00:42:42.684
Say, here's how we're going to do it. so the idea that we're
00:42:42.684 --> 00:42:45.853
Going to change the world by diplomacy or by even the
00:42:45.853 --> 00:42:48.723
Military power that we have, or by economic superiority. it's
00:42:48.723 --> 00:42:55.330
Going to ultimately be that god will intervene and bring this
00:42:55.330 --> 00:42:59.167
World to a positive and hopeful conclusion. so i'm hopeful.
00:42:59.167 --> 00:43:03.137
Does it mean that i believe that it's going to be smooth,
00:43:03.137 --> 00:43:06.374
That we're not going to perhaps go through suffering and
00:43:06.374 --> 00:43:09.644
Challenges? i think we will. i don't know what they're going
00:43:09.644 --> 00:43:12.880
To be. i don't know if they'll be in my lifetime or they'll be
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.784
500 or 10,000 years from now. i don't know, i just have this
00:43:16.784 --> 00:43:20.188
Sense that no matter how bad things look late in the fourth
00:43:20.188 --> 00:43:24.392
Quarter, by the end of the final buzzer, i'm confident god
00:43:24.392 --> 00:43:29.797
Will not be embarrassed by how he ends this game.
00:43:29.797 --> 00:43:34.502
>> very well said. amen. now we're going to change pace a
00:43:34.502 --> 00:43:37.905
Little bit because i want to shoot some rapid fire questions
00:43:37.905 --> 00:43:40.942
At you. just so good because our people want to know our
00:43:40.942 --> 00:43:43.945
People love you so much, ambassador. and i don't know if
00:43:43.945 --> 00:43:47.115
You realize, i think you may be one of the most prayed for
00:43:47.115 --> 00:43:51.786
People in america. i know that millions of our evangelical
00:43:51.786 --> 00:43:55.723
Friends call your name to the father every single day. and i
00:43:55.723 --> 00:43:59.360
Know you feel those prayers, so let's let them a little bit
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:03.231
Behind the scenes here for a minute. what's your favorite
00:44:03.231 --> 00:44:05.767
Biblical site in israel?
00:44:05.767 --> 00:44:07.535
>> oh, there's so many. i, i think it's probably in the
00:44:07.535 --> 00:44:10.538
Galilee. i mean, i love the biblical sites of jerusalem,
00:44:10.538 --> 00:44:13.541
But there's something peaceful and serene about the galilee
00:44:13.541 --> 00:44:17.779
That i just can't get over. and the fact that jesus spent most
00:44:17.779 --> 00:44:20.982
Of his three year public ministry around those shores,
00:44:20.982 --> 00:44:23.484
That everywhere you go, something very powerful
00:44:23.484 --> 00:44:26.354
Happened there. and there's something about that area that
00:44:26.354 --> 00:44:30.925
Just gives me a sense of calm and peace. so, gosh, i i'd give
00:44:30.925 --> 00:44:36.330
You a dozen places, but if you ask me to limit it to one, i'd.
00:44:36.330 --> 00:44:39.567
>> be the galilee.
00:44:39.567 --> 00:44:40.601
>> galilee.
00:44:40.601 --> 00:44:41.869
>> yeah. and you know, the one of the first times i came here,
00:44:41.869 --> 00:44:44.572
That's what struck me because here in this city, you can go
00:44:44.572 --> 00:44:47.909
To all these biblical sites. and in most of them, there's a
00:44:47.909 --> 00:44:51.379
Church built over there. yeah. it was very difficult to build
00:44:51.379 --> 00:44:54.115
A church over the sea of galilee. yeah. so they couldn't
00:44:54.115 --> 00:44:57.118
Do that. so when you're sailing across the sea of galilee, as
00:44:57.118 --> 00:45:00.154
We all do on groups, and we come here, you're looking at
00:45:00.154 --> 00:45:03.424
The very scenes that jesus saw and the bible so comes alive. i
00:45:03.424 --> 00:45:08.096
Remember one night we were out on the sea of galilee years ago,
00:45:08.096 --> 00:45:12.033
And little bitty flickering villages on the mountaintops
00:45:12.033 --> 00:45:15.937
Ahead. and it reminded me of the words of jesus. he said he
00:45:15.937 --> 00:45:20.007
Was there in that spot when he said, a city that is set on a
00:45:20.007 --> 00:45:23.911
Hill cannot be hid. neither do men take their light and hide
00:45:23.911 --> 00:45:27.682
It under a bush. but let your light so shine before me. and
00:45:27.682 --> 00:45:30.752
So it just makes the whole bible come alive. what's your
00:45:30.752 --> 00:45:34.355
Favorite food here in israel?
00:45:34.355 --> 00:45:36.524
>> oh wow. most people when they come here say falafel. and
00:45:36.524 --> 00:45:40.328
I like falafel. look, i love hummus. and there's not better
00:45:40.328 --> 00:45:45.800
Hummus anywhere in the world. it's almost at every meal at
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.836
Breakfast, lunch and dinner. and one of the things that i
00:45:48.836 --> 00:45:51.606
Never get tired of is fantastic.
00:45:51.606 --> 00:45:54.909
>> hummus with a little olive oil poured into it and some
00:45:54.909 --> 00:45:57.845
Good pita bread.
00:45:57.845 --> 00:45:58.880
>> little pepper in there, too.
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.681
>> absolutely. that's good. you're making me hungry. so let
00:46:00.681 --> 00:46:03.885
Me ask you this question. what one word describes the israeli
00:46:03.885 --> 00:46:08.890
People?
00:46:08.890 --> 00:46:10.057
>> resilient. you cannot you can knock them down, but you
00:46:10.057 --> 00:46:13.261
Can't knock them out. you can discourage them, but you can't
00:46:13.261 --> 00:46:16.464
Defeat them. there is no way that they're ever going to give
00:46:16.464 --> 00:46:19.634
Up this land, because after 2000 years of being scattered
00:46:19.634 --> 00:46:23.437
Across the earth, when they really came back in great
00:46:23.437 --> 00:46:27.608
Numbers, they've always had a presence here. they've never
00:46:27.608 --> 00:46:29.777
Had an unbroken, a broken period. so there's always been
00:46:29.777 --> 00:46:33.648
This unbroken connection. but when the zionist movement over
00:46:33.648 --> 00:46:39.821
I'm your announcer years ago really started capturing
00:46:39.821 --> 00:46:42.723
People's heart and imagination, and the jewish people started
00:46:42.723 --> 00:46:45.193
Returning home miraculously, by the way, reviving the hebrew
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Language, the only time in history that a language that
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Was considered to be gone, as now the language that is spoken
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And written and is the language of a land. when you put all
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That together, you realize that there's a an extraordinary
00:46:59.640 --> 00:47:03.611
Sense of resilience among the people that no matter how many
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Times they are attacked or accused or how many blood
00:47:07.481 --> 00:47:10.051
Libels are said about them, they wake up every morning,
00:47:10.051 --> 00:47:13.721
They don't curl up in a fetal position and lay up under their
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Beds and cry and whine and complain, oh god, where are you?
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They get up and they're prepared to fight for their
00:47:20.528 --> 00:47:23.297
Land, fight for their families, fight for their future. and
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Golda meir said in 1973, after the yom kippur war, that they
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Should have lost. they should not have been able to pull that
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Off. neither 67 or 50 6 or 48, for that matter. but they asked
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Her, prime minister, what is israel's secret weapon? and she
00:47:40.681 --> 00:47:45.720
Simply said, because we have nowhere else to go. now, that
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Is more true than it has ever been in history. when you look
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At what's happening to jews in new york, in toronto, in london,
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.965
In paris, and what you see is that jews that really have
00:47:57.965 --> 00:48:01.969
Never thought about making aliyah or coming to israel,
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Which means to come up to now, you see enormous numbers of
00:48:05.339 --> 00:48:11.012
Jewish people from around the world saying, there's only one
00:48:11.012 --> 00:48:13.814
Place on earth i can go and know that i can really be safe.
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And it's the motherland. it's it's israel. exactly. why?
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Because this is the land god gave them. argue that all you
00:48:22.456 --> 00:48:25.660
Want, but that's biblically true. it's historically true.
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It's politically true. it is geographically true. this is
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The jewish land resiliency.
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>> this is what god promised abraham, that all the nations
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Of the earth will be blessed. yeah. i asked president herzog
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.377
That question. what's the one word that describes the israeli
00:48:43.377 --> 00:48:46.614
People? you know what he said? what resilience. so great minds
00:48:46.614 --> 00:48:50.918
Run in the cell. i feel.
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>> good that i'm in agreement with the president of the
00:48:52.687 --> 00:48:54.956
Country on that.
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>> before we wind down, is there a lesson that we in
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America can learn from this place from israel?
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>> one lesson is be true to your roots. don't be afraid of
00:49:01.762 --> 00:49:05.299
Being who you are. i think one thing that has happened to the
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Jewish people as a whole, and to israelis specifically, is
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That all of these animosities that have been thrown at them,
00:49:12.139 --> 00:49:16.110
Rather than make them weaker, it's made them stronger. they
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Are, i'll use the word more resilient than ever before
00:49:19.313 --> 00:49:23.284
Because they realize that if if they were to show weakness, if
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They were to give those who wish to crush them a sense that
00:49:27.621 --> 00:49:32.226
They're easy, that they will roll over, they would be in
00:49:32.226 --> 00:49:36.664
Real trouble. instead, they have shown their willingness to
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Fight, to fight for their families, their future. it is
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.537
Something that i admire so much. i sometimes wonder if america
00:49:43.537 --> 00:49:48.275
Were under attack, as israel is, and israel every day. every
00:49:48.275 --> 00:49:53.180
Israeli who lives in this land, every single day they wake up
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And they got people who want to kill them all over the world.
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They want to kill them. they want to destroy them,
00:49:58.919 --> 00:50:01.722
Annihilate them. a lot of people would say, you know what?
00:50:01.722 --> 00:50:04.625
Let's just let's make some kind of peace where we give up
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Whatever we got to give up. and israel in the past has tried
00:50:10.064 --> 00:50:13.334
That, and it's been disastrous for them. the attitude now is,
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No, we're not going to give up our land. this is our not just
00:50:17.304 --> 00:50:21.709
Our past. this is our future. and i, i just believe that if
00:50:21.709 --> 00:50:26.347
Americans could embrace that and admire it rather than to
00:50:26.347 --> 00:50:30.584
Believe the the hateful nonsense that comes out of the
00:50:30.584 --> 00:50:33.788
Anti-semitic voices in america and across the world, we would
00:50:33.788 --> 00:50:37.992
Be a better country. israel would be a safer country.
00:50:37.992 --> 00:50:41.429
>> you know, we mentioned the name herzog a moment ago, the
00:50:41.429 --> 00:50:44.432
Name herzog. it's it's a bit of a a family dynasty here in
00:50:44.432 --> 00:50:47.568
Israel, as we talked about. his grandfather was the first chief
00:50:47.568 --> 00:50:51.906
Rabbi. his father was president of the state. now he's
00:50:51.906 --> 00:50:55.109
President of the state. we've seen a few of these in american
00:50:55.109 --> 00:50:58.345
History. as we come up on our anniversary, the adams family,
00:50:58.345 --> 00:51:01.949
The roosevelts, the bushes. the kennedys, what the kennedys,
00:51:01.949 --> 00:51:07.321
What people really want to know now is, is there going to be a
00:51:07.321 --> 00:51:12.093
Huckabee dynasty? and this is a good spot for you if you'd like
00:51:12.093 --> 00:51:15.896
To reveal the ambitions of the great governor of the state of
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Arkansas. and when we're going to see her, are you back on a
00:51:20.301 --> 00:51:23.938
Presidential ticket?
00:51:23.938 --> 00:51:25.172
>> you won't see me, that's for sure. my time has come and gone.
00:51:25.272 --> 00:51:29.677
Maybe someday. you know, right now, what we're going to see
00:51:29.677 --> 00:51:32.746
From her is a real commitment to when her second term, which
00:51:32.746 --> 00:51:37.685
Is this year. and i think she will. and then to serve with
00:51:37.685 --> 00:51:42.990
Distinction and with a real sense of vision and tenacity.
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And i'm so proud of her for that.
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>> you should be. she's doing a phenomenal job, and it must
00:51:48.429 --> 00:51:51.332
Feel funny not to be the most popular governor in the
00:51:51.332 --> 00:51:55.269
Arkansas.
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>> i. i was never the most popular. i was a republican
00:51:56.437 --> 00:51:59.607
Governor when the state was very democrat. sarah, at least,
00:51:59.607 --> 00:52:02.910
Is a republican governor when the state is very, very red
00:52:02.910 --> 00:52:06.747
Republican. so i tell her it's a lot easier for you, kiddo.
00:52:06.747 --> 00:52:10.050
You know, you're you're dealing with people who default to your
00:52:10.050 --> 00:52:14.288
Point of view. i was dealing with it. i was i tell her i was
00:52:14.288 --> 00:52:18.626
Like, ginger rogers had to do everything fred did, but i had
00:52:18.626 --> 00:52:22.229
To do it backwards in high heels.
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>> you know, we're we're so grateful that you're the
00:52:25.833 --> 00:52:29.436
Ambassador to israel. but i speak for all of our
00:52:29.436 --> 00:52:32.339
Evangelical family to say. we also thank you that even before
00:52:32.339 --> 00:52:36.076
Your ambassador to israel, you never cease being an ambassador
00:52:36.076 --> 00:52:39.680
For christ. and that's what makes you such a great
00:52:39.680 --> 00:52:43.517
Ambassador to this nation. so let me ask you a question. is
00:52:43.517 --> 00:52:46.654
There any message you'd like to leave with our tbn family and
00:52:46.654 --> 00:52:50.658
Christians around the world who pray for the peace of jerusalem?
00:52:50.658 --> 00:52:54.528
In psalm 2122 says, every day. and who pray for you?
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>> well, first of all, keep doing that because it is a
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.101
Biblical command and it's needed more than ever before. i
00:53:01.101 --> 00:53:04.338
Would also say, when you hear things that christians are not
00:53:04.338 --> 00:53:07.975
Treated well in israel, that is simply not true. christians.
00:53:07.975 --> 00:53:11.545
I'm a christian. i've been here over a hundred times over 53
00:53:11.545 --> 00:53:15.182
Years. i've never been mistreated here. israel did
00:53:15.182 --> 00:53:18.819
Something that america has never done, that i don't know
00:53:18.819 --> 00:53:21.422
Of any other nation on earth that's done. they just
00:53:21.422 --> 00:53:23.591
Appointed a full time ambassador to the christian
00:53:23.591 --> 00:53:26.694
World, george deek, who's a wonderful christian. his family,
00:53:26.694 --> 00:53:30.631
They all come from jaffa and hundreds of years of tradition.
00:53:30.631 --> 00:53:35.336
And if israel hated christians, they wouldn't be so helpful to
00:53:35.336 --> 00:53:39.607
Appoint an ambassador. and quite frankly, this is the only
00:53:39.607 --> 00:53:44.745
Place in the region where the christian population has grown
00:53:44.745 --> 00:53:48.616
In the last 85 years. the only place everywhere else is
00:53:48.616 --> 00:53:53.687
Plummeting. not here. i would say that that is an important
00:53:53.687 --> 00:53:57.191
Thing for americans to to embrace and to truly appreciate.
00:53:57.191 --> 00:54:02.997
The christian sites here are protected by the state of
00:54:02.997 --> 00:54:06.967
Israel as valiantly as are the jewish sites and for that
00:54:06.967 --> 00:54:11.605
Matter, the muslim sites. right. if you hear that israel is an
00:54:11.605 --> 00:54:15.643
Apartheid state, i say that's nonsense. if it's apartheid,
00:54:15.643 --> 00:54:18.846
They're really bad at it. they've had arabs, they do have
00:54:18.846 --> 00:54:22.549
Arabs who are in the knesset, who serve on the israeli
00:54:22.549 --> 00:54:25.352
Supreme court. until recently, till he retired, the ceo of the
00:54:25.352 --> 00:54:30.724
Largest bank in israel was arab. if you go to hadassah medical
00:54:30.724 --> 00:54:36.897
Center and walk up and down the halls, you don't see apartheid.
00:54:36.897 --> 00:54:40.434
You see arab doctors who might be the head of a department
00:54:40.434 --> 00:54:44.505
Overseeing 7 or 8 jewish israeli doctors. nurses. are
00:54:44.505 --> 00:54:49.109
They israeli? are they christian, or are they arab or
00:54:49.109 --> 00:54:53.747
Muslim? who cares? who knows? because they're working
00:54:53.747 --> 00:54:57.418
Shoulder to shoulder. the the patients get the same treatment.
00:54:57.418 --> 00:55:00.854
They pay the same price. there is no separation. and to say
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That israel is genocidal, which is a horrible blood libel
00:55:04.658 --> 00:55:08.195
Against him, i would say that's the dumbest thing i think i've
00:55:08.195 --> 00:55:11.198
Ever heard. if they were genocidal, they could have
00:55:11.198 --> 00:55:13.567
Wiped out gaza in 2.5 hours. absolutely. they took great
00:55:13.567 --> 00:55:17.571
Pains to try to protect civilian life, but their goal
00:55:17.571 --> 00:55:20.507
Was to get hostages out who had been beaten, starved, raped and
00:55:20.507 --> 00:55:25.112
Deprived. and what would you do if it were your son, your
00:55:25.112 --> 00:55:29.416
Daughter who is being held in a tunnel underground gaza and
00:55:29.416 --> 00:55:34.188
Being so mistreated as they were? what would you do to get
00:55:34.188 --> 00:55:37.424
Your own children back? i'll tell you whatever it took and
00:55:37.424 --> 00:55:41.729
The fact that israel was as patient as they were in getting
00:55:41.729 --> 00:55:44.898
Their hostages back, both living and deceased, is a
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Testament to a moral fiber that they don't get credit for.
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>> we love you, ambassador. we thank god for you. and thank
00:55:51.338 --> 00:55:55.275
You for the time you've shared with us today in our tbn family.
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And i don't know what you're going to do when you finish
00:55:58.979 --> 00:56:01.682
This tour here, but i know if we took a vote today with all
00:56:01.682 --> 00:56:04.818
Of our tbn family, i know what they vote for. we want to see
00:56:04.818 --> 00:56:08.622
You back on saturday night. we want to be a part of what
00:56:08.622 --> 00:56:11.692
You're doing. we. we love you. we pray for you and janet.
00:56:11.692 --> 00:56:14.762
Thank you. and we thank god that he's given you this
00:56:14.762 --> 00:56:17.664
Enlarged, incredible opportunity of ministry and
00:56:17.664 --> 00:56:19.032
Witness as an ambassador from the united states, but also as
00:56:19.032 --> 00:56:24.838
An ambassador for christ. you know, the truth of the matter
00:56:24.838 --> 00:56:28.709
Is we talked about wars. we've talked about conflicts in this
00:56:28.709 --> 00:56:32.679
Region that have raged forever. there will never really be
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.017
Peace until the prince of peace comes back and sets foot on
00:56:37.017 --> 00:56:42.022
That mount of olives across the way, walks through the kidron
00:56:42.022 --> 00:56:45.692
Valley, through the eastern gate, and sets up his earthly
00:56:45.692 --> 00:56:48.896
Kingdom of a thousand years of perfect peace. but the message
00:56:48.896 --> 00:56:52.900
Of tbn for 50 years has been, you don't have to wait till
00:56:52.900 --> 00:56:57.838
That day to find peace in your heart. you can find peace in
00:56:57.838 --> 00:57:01.475
Your heart today by calling upon the prince of peace
00:57:01.475 --> 00:57:05.813
Himself, the lord jesus christ. you know the bible says,
00:57:05.813 --> 00:57:09.049
Whoever shall call on the name of the lord shall be saved.
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That's been the message of tbn. i remember its founder, paul
00:57:13.353 --> 00:57:17.691
Crouch. i remember paul crouch saying that faith is going as
00:57:17.691 --> 00:57:23.130
Walking as far as you can with the light you have, and then
00:57:23.130 --> 00:57:27.167
Taking one more step. and i want to challenge you, wherever
00:57:27.167 --> 00:57:30.838
You are right now, to take that extra step of faith by placing
00:57:30.838 --> 00:57:36.109
Your faith and trust in him whom to know is life not just
00:57:36.109 --> 00:57:41.114
Eternal, but abundant in the here and now. so god bless you
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From this beautiful holy city of jerusalem.
00:57:44.818 --> 00:57:44.818

Isaac Herzog & Mike Huckabee: United in Hope | Praise

July 16, 2026 | 58:0

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