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April 13, 2026 | 57:9

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- [presenter] coming up tonight on "praise."
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- 614 times in the bible this word peace appears.
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To what is probably the most important
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Need right now in humanity.
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With despair and anxiety,
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We need a bible dedicated to peace.
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You have battles to fight.
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Why don't you fight them with a peace of god like gideon?
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What is the first word jesus says
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When he resurrects from the dead?
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"i have come to give you peace."
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- [presenter] tonight on "praise."
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From dallas, new testament scholar,
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Passionate author and pastor, dr. jeremiah johnston.
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And now your host, sheila walsh.
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(audience applauding)
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- hi, welcome.
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So lovely to have you all here,
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And it's so lovely for you to join us.
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I am holding one of the things
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I love most in the world right now.
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I love god's word,
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But i have this beautiful bible,
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It's called the "peace of god bible"
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Written by one of the people i respect immensely.
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Brilliant, brilliant mind, totally devoted to jesus.
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Let me just read a tiny little, this little call out,
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It says, "after his encounter with jesus,
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Paul understood shalom better than anyone.
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Before he met the risen christ,
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Paul was not a peaceful man."
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So in this world of chaos, how do you and i live in peace?
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Please welcome dr. jeremiah johnston.
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(audience cheering) (audience applauding)
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(upbeat rock music)
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- thank you.
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Thank you, guys.
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(audience continues cheering)
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- after your wife, i think i'm your number one fan.
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- oh my gosh, i don't know about that. (laughs)
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- i'm serious.
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And, you know, one of the things i was thinking,
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'cause you were kind enough to send me this copy,
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This beautiful, it's purple, which is my favorite color,
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Beautiful, says in the front,
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"and the peace of god, which surpasses all understanding,
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Will guard your hearts and minds through jesus christ.
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Philippians 4:7."
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- isn't that cool to have on the cover of a bible?
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- every time i pick it up, i read it before i read what's,
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But here was my question.
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You're probably one of the busiest people i know.
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You're all over the country,
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At times you're all over the world.
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You're in our pulpit at preston, were preaching.
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What was the genesis of you becoming a general editor
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Of a whole bible?
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- well, the worst thing i ever did
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To have the "peace of god"
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Was to do a bible on the peace of god.
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Let me just explain that.
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Nothing caused me more anxiety.
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But truly what i found in my study of god's word,
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We have 753,000 words in our english bibles,
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But the word that conveys
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The whole message of jesus the most,
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The whole purpose of our lives is this word shalom.
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And most people have never paused
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To realize the power of what it is to live in shalom.
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I'm a bible scholar and have rarely heard it.
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And i was approached by a dear friend of mine,
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And he said, "you know, jeremiah,
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We have the nascar lovers bible,
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We have the cat lovers bible,"
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I'm not sure who buys the cat lovers bible.
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We have the bible in klingon, the "star trek" language.
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We don't have a bible dedicated to what is probably
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The most important need right now in humanity.
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With despair and anxiety,
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We need a bible dedicated to peace.
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And i said, "i will do it on one condition.
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You cannot use my name,"
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'cause i get an allergic reaction
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When people's names are on bibles.
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"let's just call it the 'peace bible.'"
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- [sheila] i love that about you.
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- we started what began a five-year project, sheila.
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Can you imagine i was able to study,
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And no one knew this by the way,
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I had to figure this out
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Under the power of the holy spirit,
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614 times in the bible this word peace appears.
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It appears more than grace, hope, love, judgment.
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It seems that jesus is sending us a message
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From genesis to revelation;
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He wants us to live in shalom.
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And so that was the genesis of the bible.
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And yes, i got through it.
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And also, being a busy dad of five,
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I have two teenagers and triplets who are nine-
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- [sheila] triplets.
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- i haven't slept in 10 years since they were born.
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And yes, we lose our minds.
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So i wanted to know, i was breaking up civil war fights
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Between the boys while i was writing
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The "peace of god" notes.
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(sheila laughs)
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And if i may for just one moment.
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When i was really in the heat of working,
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And so you write a bible, and that's weird to say,
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But that means all of the notes i wrote.
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So it's the same 66 books of the bible,
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But every 3.2 chapters there's an application
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Of how you can live in the peace of god right now.
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A friend texted me this morning,
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It was exactly what he needed in this moment.
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But then there's 365 devotionals on the "peace of god,"
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And then there are book introductions,
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Which was my favorite thing to write-
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- [sheila] i love the book introductions by the way.
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- where we trace the theme of peace
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In whatever book it is.
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Well, this was when i knew god was gonna use the bible.
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I'm in houston,
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And i don't realize that my dad is dying in front of me.
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And they can't figure out what's wrong with him.
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Now, thank god god completely healed my dad, 100%.
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But at the time, he was having organ failure in front of me.
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- [sheila] i remember.
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- and i thought,
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"well," i was working on my peace devotional,
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As i said, "this is the worst possible situation
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I've ever been in.
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Let's see if this even works.
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'cause maybe this bible doesn't, maybe this isn't..."
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And i remember reading my dad
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The devotionals i had just written,
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And it was like god's peace came over him
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And he was able to sleep.
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His body stopped shaking.
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And i thought, "okay, there is something
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To speaking peace over people, in reading it,"
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And god later healed my dad.
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But it's just amazing how the peace of god,
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Whether you're in a hospital room right now,
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Whether your marriage is in trouble,
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Whether you just lost your job,
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The peace of god meets us exactly when we need it.
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- i think that's one of the greatest things
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I took away from reading,
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I haven't read all the devotionals,
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I've read some of them, is that no matter what,
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Whether you're in the best days of your life
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Or the worst days of your life, the promise remains.
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- that's right.
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- so let me ask you this.
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Our world right now, honestly,
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I can't think of a crazier time.
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- mm-hmm.
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- there's a lot of talk about peace.
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There's a lot of talk about where there's no peace.
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What is god's peace?
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(jeremiah chuckles)
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Because it clearly is not what we are seeing
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Happening on the news.
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- and, you know, i first met you
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On an elevator with your husband, barry,
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Because we speak at these conferences together,
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And i remember your husband
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Had the coolest leather jacket on by the way.
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- [sheila] he always does.
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- he always looked so cool, barry.
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God bless him. he's so amazing.
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And my point in bringing up these conferences,
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As i became frustrated,
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Because i would hear so many great speakers,
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I'm not talking about you,
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But i would often speak at counseling conferences,
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And i would hear pastors use
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What i call now fortune cookie theology.
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- [sheila] wow. - like a statement of,
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"well, just walk in god's peace, brother,
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You'll get through this.
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Or a bumper sticker theology.
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I'm an immediate next steps guy.
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I need to know, "okay, i need to know
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How to go from all the problems in my life
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To the peace of god,"
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And, "i need more than just a bible verse.
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I need you to tell me how to apply that bible verse."
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- [sheila] huge.
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- you can't just slap a bible verse on someone.
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I love the word of god,
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But we have to guide them by the hand like jesus did.
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Shalom is translated 70 different ways in
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Our english bible.
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- [sheila] wow!
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- it invites us into wholeness.
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But a lot of people who've been to israel
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Think it's a greeting like, "hey, shalom, bro."
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No, it's actually,
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(jeremiah and sheila chuckle)
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It's literally the whole reason jesus came.
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He says in luke 19:42, "he weeps over jerusalem."
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And he is speaking to the religious leader, sheila.
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He says, "if you, even you, would've seen the things
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That bring you peace and yet they're hidden from your eyes."
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They couldn't see peace, the person of peace, jesus,
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And they were the religious people.
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So it's possible to be religious and miss the peace of god.
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- [sheila] yeah.
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- there are many christians who,
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That, yes, they're born again
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But they're not walking in god's peace for them.
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And that's why today's broadcast is so vitally important
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Because we're gonna give you the immediate next steps.
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We're not gonna do fortune cookie, bumper sticker theology,
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We're gonna tell you exactly the takeaway
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Of listening to this whole broadcast
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And sharing it with as many people as you can
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Is you're gonna develop a personal peace plan for your life
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And you're gonna see
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How it traces its way through god's word
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And then you'll never be able to unsee it.
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- god's peace is more than just
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An antidote to anxiety though.
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- right, exactly. that's so important.
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And, first, anxiety is not always a sin.
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- [sheila] hmm.
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- you will hear that often.
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This is one thing i learned doing a bible.
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Sometimes anxiety is suffering.
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- [sheila] wow.
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- you can't tell me that jesus was not having anxiety
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When he is praying the night before
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He bears the sins of humanity and says,
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"god, if there is any way to not do this,"
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That's called anxiety, and we know jesus didn't sin.
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So sometimes anxiety is not sin, it's just suffering.
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And there are a lot of people right now
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Who need to hear that
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'cause they've been under terrible malpractice preaching
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That says, "every time you worry, that's a sin."
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- [sheila] yeah.
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- "you know, your anxiety is a sin."
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No, you might be suffering.
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You might have really gone through a really bad thing,
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And you need the touch from god that jesus had.
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And so shalom is translated in such a way
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It doesn't mean the absence of conflict.
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That's eirene, that's a truce.
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That's where most christians are.
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It doesn't mean just not having anxiety,
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It means that we can begin to flourish,
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To be made whole, to lack nothing.
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That's the beautiful hebraic understanding
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That you could be made whole.
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In those areas of trauma you've had,
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God can bring you peace and even purpose.
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Your pain can be your purpose, become your purpose,
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And then you can have god's peace.
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Now, i didn't wanna hear that
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When i struggled with anxiety.
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(sheila chuckles)
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My dad would say, "oh, jay, jeremiah,
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Someday you're gonna minister to people with anxiety."
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And i said, "that's the last thing i wanna do
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Because i just wanna get through this
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And act like it never happened to me,"
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And now here i am sitting
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With the "peace of god" study bible.
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I felt so unqualified to write these.
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Well, i do feel qualified a little bit having triplets
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'cause i did lose my mind with triplets.
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(sheila laughs)
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So there's some qualification there.
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But when you look at it then,
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Jesus talked about peace all the time.
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And what people need to take away from this broadcast
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Is shalom is god's plan for every single believer.
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It is not for delta force christians like sheila walsh
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And jeremiah johnston, it is for every believer.
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It is god's will for every christian to walk in his peace.
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I thought it was some kind of spiritual gift
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That just a few people in the church had,
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Oh no, you're not really walking
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In the fullness of the spirit until you can say,
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"i am walking in god's peace."
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- [sheila] wow.
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- now that doesn't mean we don't have battles though.
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- sure.
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- and forgive me for just answering so long,
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But can i share one experience?
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- you answer as long as you like.
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(sheila and audience laugh)
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- 'cause a lot of times it's like,
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"okay, i'm gonna have god's peace,"
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And that means i'm gonna have no more challenges.
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Judges six.
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Oh, i will never forget the day where i was up,
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I write in a little nook upstairs
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Outside of my daughter's room,
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And i'm working on this devotion
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Because i'm blown away that the first time
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That god is called yahweh-shalom is in judges six.
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And i can see it right now in my mind's eye
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Because i began to weep writing this devotion.
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And it ended with me getting on my knees saying,
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"god, i need this to be true in my own life."
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Gideon has all these problems in judges six.
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The angel of the lord
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Has to tell him four times, "i am with you."
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(audience chuckles)
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Now, moses only had to hear that once,
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And he literally led the children of israel out of egypt.
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Joshua just had to hear it once and the sun stood still.
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I kinda see myself like gideon,
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I need to hear it a few more times.
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"god, if you're with me,
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Why do i have all this garbage in my life?"
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Gideon interrupts jesus.
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You're with me. why do i have all this?
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Get on your knees in judges.
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And the title of my devotion is when all seems lost.
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If i did the whole bible just for this devotion,
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Gideon gets on his face, before the lord,
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He builds an altar, and he says-
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- why don't you read that to us?
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- oh, it says, "the lord said to gideon,
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'peace be with you. do not fear, do not be afraid.'
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Exhausted, considering giving up on god,
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Like you're wondering where god's miracles are,
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The ones you've heard about from others
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But haven't seen yourself?
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Gideon considered himself the weakest,
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The least qualified servant to obey god."
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He even charged god with forsaking him.
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You mean we can pray religiously like that?
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Oh yeah, please do. stop praying so religiously.
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Remember habakkuk's prayer.
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"god, are you dead?"
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That's what he said in habakkuk.
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We all pray way too religiously.
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"a moment after that, the lord promised his presence
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And described gideon,
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'no, you're a mighty man of valor.
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You don't see yourself, gideon, like i do.'
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Gideon then flinches, and he accuses god of abandoning him.
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The angel of the lord
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Then promises his presence four times."
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And so i write in here oftentimes
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Our trials obscure god's presence and promises.
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And this is where moses heard,
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"i will certainly be with you."
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Joshua relied on that presence in joshua 1:5
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And the sun stood still.
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"the shalom, peace of god,
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Meets us at our greatest point of need."
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And this is where then gideon finally gets it.
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And by faith, he said, "yahweh-shalom,
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My god is peace."
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- [sheila] wow.
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- now here's the kicker, though,
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'cause i always do bible study cia,
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Context, interpretation, application.
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So the context is he still had to go fight all his battles.
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- mm-hmm, with a smaller army.
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- with a much smaller army.
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He had to trust god more.
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He actually had to get up and move forward,
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And it didn't feel right.
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So we can't follow our feelings.
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And so gideon stands up.
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But he stands up differently in the peace of god,
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And he goes and he fights all of his battles
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In the peace of god.
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And that's what i want everyone in this audience
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And everyone watching around the world to know.
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You have battles to fight?
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Why don't you fight them with a peace of god like gideon.
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And when you walk in that room,
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It might be a diagnosis room, it might be a counseling room,
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Pray the prayer of gideon.
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It's a beautiful prayer.
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And this is what i love about the prayers of the bible.
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There's 651 prayers in the bible.
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Most of them are very short.
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Y'all are prayin' way too long.
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(sheila and audience laugh)
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God heard you the first time.
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He prays, "my god is peace."
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And, you know, i've started praying that.
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- [sheila] powerful prayer.
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- i was with my son ryder the other night in an er.
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This is not unusual.
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It's not good when you know the er people with triplets.
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That's just a normal thing.
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(sheila chuckles)
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Walking in, "my god is peace."
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- wow.
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- "god's got this." - [sheila] wow.
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- so sorry for the long answer,
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But i wanted to explain how applicable
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The peace of god is to our life.
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And so gideon experiences that,
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And that's why he becomes this mighty man of valor.
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- i found myself wondering, once you've finished,
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Once you actually turned this in and it became available,
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And you were kind enough to send barry a copy,
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And you sent me a copy,
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How has it personally changed your life
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This greater understanding?
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- (sighs) sheila, i don't know where i'd be right now
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Had i not studied the "peace of god" and had my wife audrey.
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That's how wracked with anxiety i was
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At one time in my life.
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I had a panic attack in the united airlines club
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In the cleveland airport.
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I laugh now, but my wife had to literally talk me home.
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- [sheila] mm-hmm.
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- and people may not understand that.
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And this is where i would really challenge christians
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To have more empathy for people.
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- [sheila] yeah.
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- and think, "oh, what's wrong with you, man?
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Get up and go on the plane."
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You know, i just preached from the outside,
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Everything looked so successful and good.
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My hands were shaking.
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Couldn't get my hands to stop shaking.
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I couldn't explain it. i just had anxiety.
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And i had to learn how to live in a peace plan for my life.
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- [sheila] hmm.
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- and so my grandpa, he's amazing man of god,
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He's now in heaven, read his bible
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Through every 11 and a half weeks.
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Not 12, not 11, he was a man of discipline.
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(sheila chuckles)
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And he said, "don't ever preach a sermon
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That hasn't changed your life."
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- whoa.
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- "'cause it won't change anyone else's life."
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- wow.
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- i get done with this bible
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And no one would've seen it from the outside,
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But the whole countenance of our family changed.
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- [sheila] hmm.
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- our marriage changed.
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Not that things were terrible,
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I was just trying to figure it out on my own.
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And suddenly i began to walk in freedom.
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And that's what i want for everyone with this bible.
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I want you to develop,
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I want you to first believe the promises of god.
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That it is god's will for you to walk in his peace.
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That's colossians 3:15.
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And you're not alone if you're struggling with anxiety.
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Paul had so much anxiety in second corinthians one.
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He said, "i have the sentence of death within me.
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I don't even wanna go on living.
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But i guess if i look behind me, god did deliver me then,
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He will deliver me in the future,
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And he's delivering me right now."
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And then people accused him of not even being an apostle
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'cause he had so much anxiety.
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Paul, i am convinced, was a professional warrior.
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- [sheila] really?
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- because seven times in the new testament
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Jesus appears to him,
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Kinda like, "keep going paul. i'm with you."
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- [sheila] "you got this." (chuckles)
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- in 2 corinthians 12,
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Paul has got some weakness in his life.
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Satan is buffeting him.
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Are you there right now? you might be.
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I've been there before.
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And he calls out jesus three times,
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"remove this thorn in my flesh."
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And when i'm studying my shalom bible,
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I didn't realize this until i got into the word.
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The bible's inexhaustible.
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Paul didn't sense it in his heart,
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He hears jesus in what's called oracular form, okay?
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That's the technical exegetical term.
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It means he heard the voice of jesus christ-
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- [sheila] wow.
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- saying, "paul, my grace is made perfect in your weakness,
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Therefore you can boast in your struggles
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So that my power can be on you."
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And ralph martin, the great commentator
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Of second corinthians, now in heaven,
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He said, "i believe paul heard that echo of jesus' voice
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In his ear the rest of his life in his ministry."
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- i just wanna pause there. that is so powerful.
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It's so interesting to me
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'cause, you know, our son, christian, he's 29 now,
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But when he was younger, he struggled with a stutter.
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- [jeremiah] mm-hmm, i didn't know that.
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- yeah, and it was very hard for him.
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If he ever had to read something in class,
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You know how kids hate that.
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It doesn't feel comfortable.
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But, you know, he's always had his own bible,
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And he marks up his own bible.
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And i was making his bed one day,
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And i looked up and on the ceiling he had,
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I don't know how he got it up there,
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I guess he's taller than me,
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But he'd pasted that exact passage,
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That paul begging god statement.
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- [jeremiah] yes, wow.
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- and i asked him about it
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'cause it was on his mirror in his bathroom too,
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And he said, "mom, i think it's in my weakness
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That i'm gonna experience god's strength."
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And i've seen that.
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I mean, it's just...
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So what i'd like you to do right now, jeremiah,
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Is for somebody who's watching in a hospital room,
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For somebody who's watching in prison,
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For somebody who's in a bankruptcy,
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For people who are just in the
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How is it possible to know peace,
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What would you say to them?
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- what i would first do is always speak the word.
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As christians were far too isolated,
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There is a power in just reading the bible.
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Look, i have it marked and underlined
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And highlighted in my bible.
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This is what i would say to someone who's struggling,
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And that's probably 99% of the people watching right now.
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"this is the word of jesus.
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Peace i leave with you, my peace i give to you,"
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Not as the world gives do i give to you,
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"let not your heart be troubled,
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Neither let it be afraid.
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You've heard me say i'm going away,
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Don't worry, i'm gonna come back for you."
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That is the power of god's word right there.
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So when we're talking about peace,
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We're not talking about a philosophical system or an idea,
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We're talking about the personal presence
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And peace of jesus that he imparts to us
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At our greatest moments of need.
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- wow.
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- and so wherever you're at right now,
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You need to say, "lord, i need to wrap myself in this truth.
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I need to believe this truth."
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Now your feelings are gonna be way off.
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We don't have faith in our feelings.
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Faith is not what i feel, faith is what i believe.
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- [sheila] yeah.
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- faith does not equal certainty,
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Otherwise it wouldn't be faith.
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Faith equals trusting god through the uncertainty.
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Jesus had a lot of uncertainty when he said this.
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He was getting ready to pay for everyone's sin.
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These are his last words.
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And this is where it's so important
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We understand there are two steps to god's peace.
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Number one, we have to have peace with god.
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- [sheila] right.
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- and we have to make sure we get it right.
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This is where we don't wanna be like the religious people
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That miss the peace of god because they miss jesus.
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Romans 5:1 is another shalom passage, one of the 614,
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Where it says, "therefore, having been justified by faith,
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We have shalom with god through jesus christ."
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It's beautiful, what a passage.
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It means i don't have to earn my own salvation,
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I don't have to do anything more than jesus did.
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So that is step number one.
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So you can't flinch, there are no false starts.
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If you don't have a relationship with god,
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That is step one for peace.
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And what's beautiful about that shalom,
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When you're forgiven,
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You're as forgiven as you will ever be
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The moment you trust jesus to save you and forgive you,
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You're as loved as you will ever be, period.
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So that shalom, what i love about that shalom,
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It doesn't increase or decrease.
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You have peace with god because jesus is enough.
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So you need to say right now, if that's you,
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"jesus, i'm trusting in you to forgive me of my sins,
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Come into my life.
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I believe you died and paid for my sins in full.
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I believe you rose from the dead for me.
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I trust you to forgive me of my sins
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And give me peace with god."
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If you just pray that minute, you're forgiven.
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So that's step one.
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But step two is where 95% of christians are right now,
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They have peace with god through jesus christ.
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But the peace of god is not colossians 3:15,
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Dwelling in their heart richly.
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- so help us get to that place.
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That's where i wanna go.
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- this is where it's so fun to do bible study
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Because it is god's word to live in his peace.
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We know, though, that we have struggles in life.
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We can be honest about our pain.
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We learn from our past, but we don't live there.
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And this, if i may, i would like to come back
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To the apostle paul.
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In second corinthians chapter two,
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Paul has everything in the world going for him.
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I just recently led a trip in the footsteps of paul,
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And i was thinking about when he was in troas.
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And in second corinthians chapter 2, verse 13,
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I love this, he literally says,
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"when i came to troas to preach christ's gospel,
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A great door was open for me."
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So everything is going great in paul's life, okay?
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Like, he could even sense it.
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Like, this is ripe for the harvest.
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And yet he was paralyzed by anxiety.
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The very next verse, "yet i had no peace of mind."
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- [sheila] yeah.
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- i believe paul had a panic attack-
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- [sheila] wow. - in troas,
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Where he was not able to do
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What god had called him to do in that city.
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Here's the fascinating part, and i'll do this quickly.
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- don't do it quickly, do it slowly.
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(jeremiah and audience chuckle)
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- in english it says,
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"but taking my leave from them, i departed from macedonia."
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Because we don't speak in biblical terms, in greek,
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The force of the greek is, "i got in my camaro
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And i left skid marks in the parking lot.
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That place became a trigger for me,
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And i'm never going back."
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We all have triggers in our life.
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People, places, things that can just trigger mistakes
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Or bad choices or anxiety.
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This was a trigger moment for paul, and he leaves.
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Even though god has this great door open for him,
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He's out of there and he never wants to come back.
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Well, it took seven years.
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So it takes time, okay? it didn't happen overnight.
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It was a process for him.
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But seven years later, paul gives us
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The greatest anti-anxiety passage in all the bible.
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And i would encourage people
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To go to philippians 4:8 with me
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Because paul does not have a great door open to him,
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He is in prison.
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Nothing circumstantially seems to be going well,
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And yet he's living his best life in the peace of god.
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Why?
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Well, we have 32 words in philippians 4.
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"only took seven years,"
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But he said, "i had to rid my mind of things,"
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That's verse six.
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And then, "i had to fill my mind with things."
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32 words, and this is paul's peace plan.
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"whenever things are true, whenever things are noble,
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Whenever things are just, whenever things are pure,
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Whenever things are lovely,
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Whenever things are of good report,
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If there's any virtue, if there's anything praiseworthy,"
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This is the verb, "think, meditate, logizomai,
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Dwell on these things.
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And it's then the peace of god will be with you."
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And then notice he says in verse nine, "i had to learn it."
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- yes. - "i had to learn."
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He says that four times actually.
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I literally-
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- i find that very encouraging actually.
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- yeah, i had to learn this.
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It didn't just snap my fingers and happen.
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And so paul tells us his peace plan.
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He had to stop thinking certain thoughts.
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And then he had to start thinking the right thoughts,
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And he had to practice walking faith, not feeling faith.
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I'm gonna walk even though my feelings are all.
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- and he gives us his peace plan.
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So i'm reading this, sheila, and i'm thinking,
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Wow, paul had to make some changes in his life.
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And so i, one night, stressed out,
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Sitting on the couch with my triplets,
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I wrote out my own peace plan.
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- wow.
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- of things that i needed to do like paul.
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I thought, well, if paul needed a peace plan,
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I certainly do.
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And i wrote down 20 things of just...
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They were the simplest, just marginal changes.
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And all you perfectionists out there are like,
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"well, have you ever had a day where you've done all 20?"
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No, and that's not the point.
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You're missing the point of freedom.
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This is freedom, not perfection.
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But i wrote down these points,
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Calibrated some things in my life,
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And everything began to change
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Because we started to walk in a peace plan.
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And so, i always...
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I don't know how you are as an author,
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But i always write the introduction last to my books
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'cause the holy spirit always takes me
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In a direction that i wasn't anticipating.
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And there's articles in the front of the bible...
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There's an article i wrote, literally paul's peace plan.
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This is what changed jeremiah johnston's life.
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- it's so good.
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- i would not be an apologist today.
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It's so amazing.
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My wife just laughs because, in a great way,
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Because i'm walking in my giftedness.
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I can stand toe to toe
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With the most hostile enemies of the gospel.
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I was just at the world economic form-
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- i saw that. - working with everyone who's,
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Or giving the gospel to everyone
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Who's gonna work with the antichrist soon.
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I mean literally.
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And no, no, i'm not lying.
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No anxiety.
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God's peace was with me.
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I'm walking in ease and effectiveness,
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Not perfection, but his peace was with me.
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So paul then, let's talk about our triggers.
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Paul goes back to troas on his third missionary journey,
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'cause he has a peace plan now.
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He's got this.
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And yes, he's gonna be triggered.
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He's probably gonna remember, man,
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God had a great open door.
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So he preaches the longest sermon he's ever given
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So much so that poor eutychus falls asleep,
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And he must have been seated in the wrong spot.
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I hope no one is seating in...
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And the poor young man dies.
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- fell out the window.
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- paul's sermon literally killed him.
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And paul says and performs, this is the same city,
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His greatest miracle, and he raise...
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It's one of the eight resurrections we have in the bible.
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Paul raises eutychus from the dead.
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- in the very place that was a place where he ran from.
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- that was his trigger that he ran from,
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And that's where you can go from trigger to triumph
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When you walk in the peace of god in your life.
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- wow.
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It's so interesting,
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Just listening to you talk about
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Your own personal peace plan.
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I struggled for the first couple of months of this year,
00:30:22.610 --> 00:30:26.514
Just feeling like, "oh lord, am i done?"
00:30:26.514 --> 00:30:29.984
Feeling kind of anxious, feeling like,
00:30:29.984 --> 00:30:31.519
Showing up to speak and thinking,
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:32.987
Well, they're much better than i am, yada, yada.
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And i found myself asking, lord, what is this about?
00:30:35.290 --> 00:30:38.493
And do you know what the lord told me?
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Stop scrolling on your phone. - that's right.
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- it was literally something as simple as that.
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I was scrolling on my phone,
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And i'm taking in all this stuff.
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And when i stopped doing that
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And i start taking in the word of god, it changed.
00:30:51.506 --> 00:30:54.409
- well, you did hebrews 12:2.
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Let us fix our eyes on jesus, not our cell phones.
00:30:56.077 --> 00:30:59.681
We have these nuclear devices in our hands,
00:30:59.681 --> 00:31:02.450
And they're destroying...
00:31:02.450 --> 00:31:03.584
I mean, we could talk all day.
00:31:03.584 --> 00:31:04.719
We see 10,000 media messages a day.
00:31:04.719 --> 00:31:07.722
This is why there are lawsuits that are happening,
00:31:07.722 --> 00:31:10.558
And they should, of these social media companies
00:31:10.558 --> 00:31:13.594
That i was just with at wef,
00:31:13.594 --> 00:31:16.597
Corrupting our society, creating deaths of despair.
00:31:17.632 --> 00:31:21.502
And i think as believers, we need to set the tone.
00:31:21.502 --> 00:31:23.871
And what did you say?
00:31:23.871 --> 00:31:25.073
I gotta get my eyes on god's word.
00:31:25.073 --> 00:31:26.407
And again, that changes our whole perspective.
00:31:26.407 --> 00:31:28.443
That is the game changer.
00:31:28.443 --> 00:31:30.411
- so if you're just joining us, i want you to know.
00:31:30.411 --> 00:31:32.880
I mean, i get the privilege of
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.615
Interviewing lots of people, and i love it.
00:31:34.615 --> 00:31:36.484
I mean, i was a scared little girl growing up in scotland
00:31:36.484 --> 00:31:39.420
Who walked in her sleep every night till i was 18 years old,
00:31:39.420 --> 00:31:43.725
Afraid of what might...
00:31:43.725 --> 00:31:45.360
My mom would come in at night
00:31:45.360 --> 00:31:47.228
And lay her hands on me and say,
00:31:47.228 --> 00:31:48.730
"lord, for this one, this least likely, i give it to you.
00:31:48.730 --> 00:31:52.133
And you do with her whatever you would."
00:31:52.133 --> 00:31:54.936
And i love to interview people, but i have to tell you,
00:31:54.936 --> 00:31:59.273
Today's program, tonight's program's different for me.
00:31:59.273 --> 00:32:02.110
This is not jeremiah promoting a book.
00:32:02.110 --> 00:32:04.846
This is the word of god.
00:32:04.846 --> 00:32:06.714
- that's right. - and you maybe think,
00:32:06.714 --> 00:32:07.949
"well, i've got two or three bibles
00:32:07.949 --> 00:32:10.184
And i've got some that i love."
00:32:10.184 --> 00:32:11.452
Great, me too, but i love this,
00:32:11.452 --> 00:32:14.455
The "peace of god bible".
00:32:14.455 --> 00:32:16.157
I encourage you to go online,
00:32:16.157 --> 00:32:18.860
Get a copy of the "peace of god bible",
00:32:18.860 --> 00:32:20.561
Get one for your children.
00:32:20.561 --> 00:32:21.996
If your kids are in college, send one to your kids.
00:32:21.996 --> 00:32:24.365
It will absolutely build you up in your faith.
00:32:24.365 --> 00:32:28.469
So i cannot- - thank you.
00:32:28.469 --> 00:32:30.338
- no, seriously.
00:32:30.338 --> 00:32:31.806
It's phenomenal. it's really great.
00:32:32.573 --> 00:32:33.875
- well i didn't wanna do it, that's the thing.
00:32:33.875 --> 00:32:35.977
I literally did not wanna do the bible.
00:32:35.977 --> 00:32:37.979
- yeah. - i didn't feel qualified,
00:32:37.979 --> 00:32:40.248
And i thought, oh my lord, this is a huge project.
00:32:40.248 --> 00:32:43.151
It's 126,000 words of notes on the peace of god.
00:32:43.151 --> 00:32:47.989
But do you realize after four years
00:32:47.989 --> 00:32:49.657
Of studying shalom, how utterly...
00:32:49.657 --> 00:32:51.359
I mean pick a passage,
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:52.660
And i can preach you a sermon now
00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:54.662
About how it's transformed our marriage,
00:32:54.662 --> 00:32:56.898
Our life, our parenting.
00:32:56.898 --> 00:32:58.499
It's helped us be more present in our parenting.
00:32:58.499 --> 00:33:01.536
It's helped us be more pastoral
00:33:01.536 --> 00:33:03.137
In the church where i serve at prestonwood.
00:33:03.137 --> 00:33:05.740
And one thing i love,
00:33:05.740 --> 00:33:07.008
It's given me a greater empathy for people.
00:33:07.008 --> 00:33:09.677
Everybody is struggling with anxiety.
00:33:10.478 --> 00:33:12.246
And it is so easy to give someone
00:33:12.246 --> 00:33:14.248
A curt answer, a trite answer.
00:33:14.248 --> 00:33:17.385
And you know what, i love now that i can say,
00:33:17.385 --> 00:33:18.986
Hey, get in the word, get the "peace of god bible,"
00:33:18.986 --> 00:33:21.956
Get a peace plan for yourself and then call me.
00:33:21.956 --> 00:33:24.125
One of the greatest questions that you can ask someone is,
00:33:24.125 --> 00:33:26.994
How are you managing all of the stress,
00:33:26.994 --> 00:33:29.964
Uncertainty, and anxiety you have in your life?
00:33:29.964 --> 00:33:32.700
And just stop talking when you ask someone that.
00:33:33.701 --> 00:33:35.103
And most people will say,
00:33:35.103 --> 00:33:36.571
"well, i have no one helping me manage
00:33:36.571 --> 00:33:38.339
The stress, anxiety, and uncertainty in my life."
00:33:38.339 --> 00:33:41.342
And so this is where the local church is vital.
00:33:41.342 --> 00:33:44.412
This is where having a community of faith is vital.
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This is where having a care team is vital.
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You mean i need to have a care team?
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Yes, i do.
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Physically, mentally, emotional support, getting rest.
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My peace plan was like i've gotta get outside more.
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That's one of my 20 things,
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'cause we, sheila, live in a world
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That very few people understand of deadlines.
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And we have to be at our best at every time.
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And we are assessed on every word we say
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Or don't say or don't say correctly.
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And that's just a level of
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Our normal is abnormal for normal people.
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And so we can't do that in our own strength.
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All couldn't do that in his own strength.
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And this is where the lord
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Had to keep showing up in his life and say,
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"paul, i am gonna strengthen you."
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And this is why in colossians one, paul's able to say,
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"i work with the strength of god
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That mightily works through me."
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Isn't that powerful? - it's so powerful.
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- just pray colossians one,
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And you'll have the peace of god like,
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Lord, i can't do today in my strength,
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But your strength can work through me.
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When you're talking about this peace of god
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Resting on all the areas of your life,
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It made me think of...
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A few years ago, barry and i went through a kind of,
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Just a kind of rough period the way that
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Often you do in your marriage,
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And i was not in a good head space.
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I was really mad.
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I was really upset.
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So barry booked an appointment with
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A therapist that we both love and trust,
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A beautiful godly man.
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And i said to him, "let's take separate cars."
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And he said, "why? are you not talking to me?"
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And i said- - is he a bad driver?
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Is that why?
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- he's a good driver?
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(all laughing)
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And i said, "no, but i might not be on the way home."
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And he was like, "oh, okay."
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So we're driving there and this was my prayer.
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It was like, "holy spirit, please come in with me.
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If i go in by myself with my thoughts,
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With my ideas of what i think
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Is the right thing with my rights,
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Nothing good can come from this.
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So holy spirit, thank you
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That i don't have to walk in anywhere by myself."
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And i have to tell you, people,
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It made the world of difference
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Because suddenly you're inviting heaven
00:35:53.741 --> 00:35:56.043
To invade your earth and be open to god.
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'cause jesus said nothing's impossible with him.
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And i think that the kind of world we live in...
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I wanted to ask you,
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Is there a correlation between peace and holiness?
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- absolutely.
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I think that, without a doubt,
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When we walk in the peace of god,
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We begin to walk in our purpose.
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There's so much purposelessness in our lives.
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I've been really challenging our church,
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When i preach to do more.
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We all can do more for christ.
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We are all so self-centered.
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And i don't know about you,
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But i was speaking at an our event last wednesday, i said,
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"i wanna go out with a gas light on for jesus."
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I wanna walk in my mission
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Because there's really three clues to one's mental health.
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It's your relationships, it's your health,
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And it's, are you on mission for your life?
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Secular psychologists will ask you those three questions.
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I just saved someone $300 from an appointment right there.
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How are you in your relationships,
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Like your immediate relationships?
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How are you in your physical health?
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Because there's definitely a payoff
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To being physically healthy.
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And are you living on purpose?
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We were made to glorify god and live on mission.
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And so is there a connection to holiness and peace?
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Absolutely, but i would say it more than like a rigidness.
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It's living on purpose and mission.
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Our pain, literally, god gives us peace in our pain
00:37:17.925 --> 00:37:22.697
So that our pain can become our purpose.
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When i was freaking out in the united airlines club
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At the cleveland airport
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And could barely make my way home to houston at that time,
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I never thought someday i would be doing this,
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But now i'm on mission,
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And my mission is to unleash peace on people's lives.
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And what's interesting about that,
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God will give you more strength.
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You'll do more than you ever thought was possible.
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He will give you an abundant life.
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I'm doing more now than i've ever done
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And i've never had more fun in all my life doing it.
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- yes you are.
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You're one of the busiest people i know.
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- literally, i'm in love with...
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'cause i'm on mission.
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I wake up in the middle of the night with a legal pad.
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The other night, god woke me up in the middle of the night,
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Speaking peace and vision to me.
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And i tried to wake audrey up, and she's like,
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"tell me in the morning.
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Don't tell me in the middle of the night
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What god is telling you.
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Wait till the morning."
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- smart woman. - never wake your wife up
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In the middle of the night ever.
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And so, 'cause, again, god bless her,
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A mother of five and triplets.
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But this is where it is on mission.
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And so anxiety wants to isolate.
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Worry wants us to isolate.
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It wants us to fixate on the past, fixate on...
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We've all made mistakes.
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It wants us to live in that world,
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And we never live on mission or purpose.
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And jesus has come to redeem all of that.
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He's come to repair all the years the locusts have eaten.
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And he is like, "hey, live on mission now, move.
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Don't go back to fishing, peter.
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I'm here with you.
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Let's get moving. let's go, move forward now."
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And here's what i wanna encourage people with.
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You cannot wait till everything feels right
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To walk in the peace of god.
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It's not gonna feel peaceful at first,
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But you're gonna have to walk in faith, not by sight,
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And say, lord, i'm going to wrap myself in this truth.
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Even though i'm like gideon,
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Everything around me seems horrible right now, but god,
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Or i'm in a hospital room with my dad who's dying.
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Literally, the only prayer i could pray is my god is peace
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And god's got this.
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I couldn't pray anything else 'cause i...
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I'm in a situation where i don't even know what to pray
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Every time someone comes in the room,
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It's more bad news.
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I don't even want to text it to someone.
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You could give them a panic attack
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Just giving them the real time info on your life,
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But that was enough to say
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My god is peace and god's got this.
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But god doesn't want to keep us in those moments.
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We learn from it
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And then we build for the future,
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And that's where that peace plan keeps coming in.
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And i'm convinced of this, sheila,
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Paul wrote philippians 4:8.
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I'm convinced he had to remind himself of that truth
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500 times a day.
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It wasn't like something he just went to one time and left.
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Oh no, i think it's every day.
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Okay, i'm gonna think on what's true right now.
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Paul used the word truth, aletheia,
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55 times in his epistles.
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He was constantly coming back to what is true.
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He was misbelieving those lies.
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He was replacing a lie with the promise of god's truth.
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This is why he said we have a shield of faith
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To quench all those fiery darts.
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He's quoting isaiah, people don't realize that,
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From the original armor of god passage.
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But he needs that helmet of salvation.
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He needs that shield of faith
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To quench all those fiery darts.
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And this is where he gives us this incredible hymn.
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I wish chris tomlin would've talked to me
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Before he said he wrote the oldest hymn by the way,
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'cause he didn't.
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The oldest hymn is philippians two,
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Which begins, "let this mind be in you
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Which was also in christ jesus."
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That's the peace plan right there,
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Who being in the form of god did not consider it
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Robbery to be equal with god
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And yet humbled himself and became,
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As a man, became obedient to death, even death on a cross.
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Therefore, god has highly exalted him
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And given him the name that every knee will bow someday
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And every tongue confess that jesus christ is lord.
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Glory of god the father.
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That's the original hymn.
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Sorry, chris, but that's the original hymn.
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It begins though, "let this mind be in you."
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And so i wanna learn to think like jesus
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So i can act like jesus.
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- one of the things that i've found really helpful
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Is understanding the difference between
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My circumstances and god's sovereignty.
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Because so often if circumstances seem bad,
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We think something's gone wrong.
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How does an understanding the sovereignty of god?
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- this is where, again, i'm talking to myself right now.
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It's so much easier to obey god than to trust god.
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- [sheila] yeah, yeah.
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- and so when we talk about sovereignty,
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It's like, god, i'm obeying you today,
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But everywhere i look
00:42:08.582 --> 00:42:10.584
Things are messy- - not looking good.
00:42:10.584 --> 00:42:12.152
- and this is where habakkuk challenges god,
00:42:12.152 --> 00:42:14.388
56 verses in the book of habakkuk.
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It's all...
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He's a prophet who never actually gets around
00:42:17.891 --> 00:42:19.760
To giving his prophecy,
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'cause all he is doing is talking to god.
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It's his prayer journal.
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And finally, god responds and says,
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"if i were to show you everything i was doing,
00:42:25.766 --> 00:42:28.135
You would literally pass out i'm.
00:42:28.135 --> 00:42:31.171
I've got this.
00:42:31.171 --> 00:42:32.106
You need to trust me."
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He literally shushes him in the book of habakkuk.
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I have it in the bible.
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He literally has to say, "shh, i'm in control. trust me."
00:42:38.712 --> 00:42:43.050
And this is where habakkuk chapter three then
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Is one of the greatest hymns in all the bible.
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Hey god, if there's no cattle on the field,
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If there's no food in the fridge, if i can't see you,
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I'm still trusting you, god, because you just shushed me.
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And so some of you, you need to shh.
00:42:57.998 --> 00:42:59.833
God's in control.
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He's got it.
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He knows all about it, okay?
00:43:02.236 --> 00:43:03.937
And it might not look like he does, but he's got it.
00:43:03.937 --> 00:43:06.807
And how often at times...
00:43:06.807 --> 00:43:09.643
It's uncanny to me that when we commit our lives to jesus,
00:43:09.643 --> 00:43:13.847
He's so faithful, even faithful in our bad choices,
00:43:13.847 --> 00:43:17.951
Our bad decisions.
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We look in the rear view mirror of our life
00:43:19.553 --> 00:43:21.622
And god's hand and signature.
00:43:21.622 --> 00:43:24.391
Oh, had i not...
00:43:24.391 --> 00:43:25.893
God controls it all,
00:43:25.893 --> 00:43:27.094
But we never see it going forward.
00:43:27.094 --> 00:43:28.595
We never wanna trust god going forward,
00:43:28.595 --> 00:43:30.330
But we look back and it's...
00:43:30.330 --> 00:43:32.099
Wow, the lord sovereignly met me in these places,
00:43:32.099 --> 00:43:36.870
And he led me even when i didn't know he was leading me,
00:43:36.870 --> 00:43:40.541
And that's why we can trust him.
00:43:40.541 --> 00:43:42.576
- how do we order the way we think?
00:43:42.576 --> 00:43:45.979
Because i think ordering the way we think is a huge shift.
00:43:45.979 --> 00:43:49.483
- absolutely.
00:43:49.483 --> 00:43:50.617
Well, here's the beauty of these things.
00:43:50.617 --> 00:43:53.454
Thoughts are not threats.
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Okay.
00:43:56.924 --> 00:43:58.225
It's very important that we get that down.
00:43:58.225 --> 00:43:59.426
Thoughts are not threats.
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They're just thoughts, everyone has them.
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Paul had them.
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Jesus, can you...
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And i wanna, again, invite people to the bible.
00:44:05.332 --> 00:44:08.535
Satan takes jesus to some place
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And shows him the whole world.
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Can you imagine the temptation?
00:44:15.843 --> 00:44:18.345
The great tempter, the adversary
00:44:18.345 --> 00:44:20.781
Shows jesus every possible temptation known to mankind
00:44:20.781 --> 00:44:26.053
In that place.
00:44:26.420 --> 00:44:27.788
And remember jesus is god, but he's also fully man.
00:44:27.788 --> 00:44:30.824
And he says, "you need to worship me
00:44:31.625 --> 00:44:33.260
And i'll give you all of this."
00:44:33.260 --> 00:44:34.194
- without the suffering.
00:44:34.194 --> 00:44:36.163
- and jesus sees it all.
00:44:36.163 --> 00:44:38.832
He's able to stabilize himself with what, the word of god.
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The word of the lord says, "be away from me, satan."
00:44:43.504 --> 00:44:46.707
So satan, remember, submit to god.
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Brother james said this, jesus' brother.
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Resist the devil and he will run away from you.
00:44:52.279 --> 00:44:54.615
Submit yourself to god and he will protect you.
00:44:54.615 --> 00:44:57.518
And so that is where the key is right there.
00:44:57.518 --> 00:45:00.854
When we realize that i can try to order my thoughts.
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You're not going to.
00:45:04.691 --> 00:45:06.093
You're gonna have all...
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The enemy will hit you with all kinds of thoughts,
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And you just have to focus on what's true,
00:45:10.130 --> 00:45:12.566
What's pure, what's holy, what's just,
00:45:12.566 --> 00:45:15.769
And keep focusing on that,
00:45:15.769 --> 00:45:18.338
And you just don't feel...
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And i want to just share this with you,
00:45:19.606 --> 00:45:21.475
Don't feel like you have to grab, crush, and kill
00:45:21.475 --> 00:45:23.644
Every terrible thought you have in your life.
00:45:23.644 --> 00:45:25.345
You just ignore it.
00:45:25.345 --> 00:45:26.713
It's like if you've ever gone to a sporting event,
00:45:26.713 --> 00:45:28.615
It's the drunk guy in the parking lot yelling.
00:45:28.615 --> 00:45:31.418
You don't go engage him.
00:45:31.418 --> 00:45:33.220
You just keep walking away from the dumb thought,
00:45:33.220 --> 00:45:36.790
And that's the best antidote to that.
00:45:36.790 --> 00:45:39.827
And then you get on mission just like jesus did,
00:45:39.827 --> 00:45:42.996
Just like paul did, keep living on mission.
00:45:42.996 --> 00:45:45.465
Nothing will let you live in the peace of god more
00:45:45.465 --> 00:45:48.635
Than living on your mission in life.
00:45:48.635 --> 00:45:50.904
And that's where, sheila, you have so exemplified this.
00:45:50.904 --> 00:45:55.209
You and barry in your ministry,
00:45:55.209 --> 00:45:57.377
In your teaching, in your authoring of books.
00:45:57.377 --> 00:46:00.447
You have exemplified a life on mission.
00:46:00.447 --> 00:46:02.716
And that's why you're changing millions of lives.
00:46:02.716 --> 00:46:04.818
That's why we all love to listen to you,
00:46:04.818 --> 00:46:06.420
Because lord of your authenticity
00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:08.822
And because of your love for jesus,
00:46:08.822 --> 00:46:10.557
And because you live on mission.
00:46:10.557 --> 00:46:14.394
- doesn't it change everything when you know why you're here
00:46:15.596 --> 00:46:18.765
And you know god's given you a call,
00:46:18.765 --> 00:46:20.701
And it's just like...
00:46:20.701 --> 00:46:22.269
Somebody said to me the other day,
00:46:22.269 --> 00:46:23.570
'cause i went through this thing where...
00:46:23.570 --> 00:46:25.138
It was only for 24 hours, but i thought i broke my neck.
00:46:25.138 --> 00:46:28.141
I ended up in the er for 18 hours.
00:46:28.141 --> 00:46:30.277
- were you driving with barry?
00:46:30.277 --> 00:46:31.478
Was he driving?
00:46:31.478 --> 00:46:33.080
- no, no, i wasn't.
00:46:33.547 --> 00:46:35.616
I just did something really stupid, and it was...
00:46:35.616 --> 00:46:38.852
And i remember when i was being put in...
00:46:38.852 --> 00:46:41.655
I'm kind of claustrophobic so i don't like those,
00:46:41.655 --> 00:46:43.790
Cat scan, a ct scan they put you in.
00:46:43.790 --> 00:46:45.459
- yep, absolutely. - i don't really like that.
00:46:45.459 --> 00:46:47.861
And so the technician gave me this panic button,
00:46:47.861 --> 00:46:51.298
And he said to me, "i'm gonna be in the other room.
00:46:51.298 --> 00:46:54.001
You're gonna be in here by yourself."
00:46:54.001 --> 00:46:55.802
And the minute he said that, i thought,
00:46:55.802 --> 00:46:58.605
No, i'm not. - that's right.
00:46:58.605 --> 00:47:00.073
- there's absolutely nowhere on this earth-
00:47:00.073 --> 00:47:03.677
- if i go- - i could go-
00:47:03.677 --> 00:47:04.945
- and if i make my bed- - the depth of hell-
00:47:04.945 --> 00:47:06.113
- in hell, you were there with me.
00:47:06.113 --> 00:47:07.781
- absolutely.
00:47:07.781 --> 00:47:08.982
If you are just joining us,
00:47:08.982 --> 00:47:10.450
I'm talking to dr. jeremiah johnston,
00:47:10.450 --> 00:47:13.053
One of my favorite people on this planet.
00:47:13.053 --> 00:47:16.123
He's got this incredible, incredible bible.
00:47:17.057 --> 00:47:19.226
It's called the "peace of god bible."
00:47:19.226 --> 00:47:22.162
And if you are struggling in these crazy nutty days,
00:47:22.162 --> 00:47:25.899
If you're watching, i mean, obviously,
00:47:25.899 --> 00:47:27.935
I want you to watch television 'cause here we are.
00:47:27.935 --> 00:47:30.304
- yes.
00:47:30.304 --> 00:47:31.238
- but watch what you watch.
00:47:31.238 --> 00:47:32.472
Watch what you take in.
00:47:32.472 --> 00:47:33.941
Watch how you scroll.
00:47:33.941 --> 00:47:35.542
But i really encourage you to get hold
00:47:35.542 --> 00:47:37.711
Of a copy of this bible.
00:47:37.711 --> 00:47:38.979
I love it.
00:47:38.979 --> 00:47:40.547
It's encouraged me when i've felt down.
00:47:41.381 --> 00:47:43.884
I feel it's kind of course corrections at times.
00:47:43.884 --> 00:47:47.220
So get a hold of a copy of this bible for yourself.
00:47:47.220 --> 00:47:52.159
It's amazing.
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.027
Can a true follower, like somebody who really loves jesus,
00:47:54.027 --> 00:47:57.230
Can they lose their peace?
00:47:57.230 --> 00:47:58.966
- absolutely, it happens all the time.
00:47:58.966 --> 00:48:01.401
This is where the peace of god refills us.
00:48:02.269 --> 00:48:05.906
Paul lost his peace in 2 corinthians 1
00:48:05.906 --> 00:48:09.376
When he literally said,
00:48:09.376 --> 00:48:10.644
"do you mind if i just tell you about
00:48:10.644 --> 00:48:11.611
All my challenges for a minute?"
00:48:11.611 --> 00:48:12.813
He had no peace.
00:48:12.813 --> 00:48:14.214
He literally is shipwrecked.
00:48:14.214 --> 00:48:15.849
I think he probably didn't peace
00:48:15.849 --> 00:48:17.718
When he was bit by a snake either on the island of malta.
00:48:17.718 --> 00:48:20.520
So are we talking...
00:48:20.520 --> 00:48:22.889
Let's talk real talk, yes.
00:48:22.889 --> 00:48:24.825
We are going to have
00:48:24.825 --> 00:48:26.560
All kinds of chaotic things happen in our life,
00:48:26.560 --> 00:48:29.796
And that should not make us afraid.
00:48:29.796 --> 00:48:31.431
But that's why we can restore the peace of god in our life
00:48:31.431 --> 00:48:34.801
By mixing the promises of god with faith.
00:48:34.801 --> 00:48:37.904
So i have a whole article.
00:48:37.904 --> 00:48:39.439
Again, i needed to know how to do this.
00:48:39.439 --> 00:48:41.742
I needed more than a bumper sticker.
00:48:41.742 --> 00:48:44.111
I needed more, and i mean this, i wanna keep saying this.
00:48:44.111 --> 00:48:46.680
I needed more than someone
00:48:46.680 --> 00:48:47.781
Slapping a bible verse on my back.
00:48:47.781 --> 00:48:49.549
And so i wrote an entire article on what to do
00:48:49.549 --> 00:48:53.387
When you've lost the peace of god, how do you get it back.
00:48:53.387 --> 00:48:57.457
And this is where qavah,
00:48:57.457 --> 00:48:59.359
The greatest word for faith in all the bible.
00:48:59.359 --> 00:49:01.995
I actually preached this with a rope at prestonwood
00:49:01.995 --> 00:49:04.765
Because i needed to hear this.
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Qavah is the strongest word for faith in scripture,
00:49:07.234 --> 00:49:10.404
And it means that when we take a little strand,
00:49:10.404 --> 00:49:14.207
A little piece of thread,
00:49:14.207 --> 00:49:16.043
And we tie it together in a rope, that's faith.
00:49:16.043 --> 00:49:20.247
And that rope is the church,
00:49:20.247 --> 00:49:22.482
The faith community that you're in,
00:49:22.482 --> 00:49:24.718
The word of god, the presence of jesus.
00:49:24.718 --> 00:49:27.587
And so i held up a rope that was so strong
00:49:27.587 --> 00:49:30.424
That you couldn't break it.
00:49:30.424 --> 00:49:31.825
You could rappel down any mountain cliff with this
00:49:31.825 --> 00:49:35.362
Because you're not relying
00:49:35.362 --> 00:49:36.730
On that one little strand of faith, yourself,
00:49:36.730 --> 00:49:39.332
Which is so flimsy and weak, and we lose it.
00:49:39.332 --> 00:49:42.002
No, we have to fold that
00:49:42.002 --> 00:49:43.236
Into all of this community of belief,
00:49:43.236 --> 00:49:45.939
The promises of god, the peace plan.
00:49:45.939 --> 00:49:48.542
And that's when we mix the promises of god with faith,
00:49:48.542 --> 00:49:51.478
And we have shalom.
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- wow.
00:49:52.546 --> 00:49:53.380
That's beautiful.
00:49:53.380 --> 00:49:54.714
So if somebody's watching right now and thinking,
00:49:55.715 --> 00:49:58.051
"i used to know the peace of god.
00:49:58.051 --> 00:50:00.253
I used to walk in the peace."
00:50:00.253 --> 00:50:02.322
Somebody said to me just last week
00:50:02.322 --> 00:50:04.191
That covid seemed to change everything for them.
00:50:04.191 --> 00:50:07.260
They used to be very engaged in church.
00:50:07.260 --> 00:50:09.429
Now they stay at home 'cause they think,
00:50:09.429 --> 00:50:11.164
Well, it's the same thing.
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I'm just watching it on television.
00:50:12.365 --> 00:50:14.634
When you lose that kind of peace,
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Would you give a first step?
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How do you even...
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And why is it important that we gather together?
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- yes. absolutely.
00:50:23.510 --> 00:50:25.545
I've been there.
00:50:25.545 --> 00:50:26.847
I remember being so wracked with anxiety
00:50:26.847 --> 00:50:29.649
I couldn't walk into costco,
00:50:29.649 --> 00:50:31.618
And that's a true story.
00:50:31.618 --> 00:50:32.953
I just told my wife, i can't do it.
00:50:32.953 --> 00:50:34.754
Now costco can cause anxiety by the way, just generally.
00:50:34.754 --> 00:50:38.458
But when i go, people think i own a restaurant
00:50:38.458 --> 00:50:41.194
'cause i have four sons.
00:50:41.194 --> 00:50:42.562
And i'm like, no, i don't own a restaurant,
00:50:42.562 --> 00:50:44.164
But i was at that level of anxiety.
00:50:44.164 --> 00:50:46.533
Something so simple,
00:50:46.533 --> 00:50:47.801
I'm sure people with no empathy are like,
00:50:47.801 --> 00:50:49.603
"man, what a wuss.
00:50:49.603 --> 00:50:51.171
He couldn't walk into costco"- - some people will get that.
00:50:51.171 --> 00:50:53.340
- "what's wrong with him?
00:50:53.340 --> 00:50:54.508
He's panicking going into costco?"
00:50:54.508 --> 00:50:57.410
So i want to identify with you for a minute.
00:50:57.410 --> 00:51:00.013
Paul would identify with you.
00:51:00.013 --> 00:51:01.548
He had so many times in his life where he's worried
00:51:01.548 --> 00:51:04.684
And he is so racked with anxiety.
00:51:04.684 --> 00:51:06.953
What is the first step?
00:51:06.953 --> 00:51:08.922
The first step is to push forward
00:51:08.922 --> 00:51:11.658
Into whatever's making you afraid.
00:51:11.658 --> 00:51:14.327
Literally push, lean into it.
00:51:14.327 --> 00:51:16.563
Go into costco.
00:51:16.563 --> 00:51:18.532
Go to church.
00:51:18.532 --> 00:51:20.300
Go into the mri.
00:51:20.300 --> 00:51:22.335
Stop running away from it.
00:51:22.335 --> 00:51:24.204
Lean into it in the name of jesus.
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Let it all happen.
00:51:27.507 --> 00:51:28.742
Just don't try to control any of it.
00:51:28.742 --> 00:51:30.210
Say, jesus, i'm gonna run towards goliath right now,
00:51:30.210 --> 00:51:33.046
Just like david did.
00:51:33.046 --> 00:51:34.581
I'm young, i'm little, i'm not equipped.
00:51:34.581 --> 00:51:38.151
I'm not qualified
00:51:38.151 --> 00:51:39.619
And i'm gonna run towards everything i'm afraid of.
00:51:39.619 --> 00:51:41.788
But i'm gonna do it trusting you, god,
00:51:41.788 --> 00:51:43.190
That your peace is gonna be with me.
00:51:43.190 --> 00:51:44.891
And if you do, that's step one.
00:51:44.891 --> 00:51:47.127
Now, step two then is we gotta do this every day.
00:51:47.127 --> 00:51:51.031
We have to make some changes in our life.
00:51:51.031 --> 00:51:53.300
One of my peace plans is the word no.
00:51:53.300 --> 00:51:57.404
- oh yeah. no is a whole sentence.
00:51:58.138 --> 00:52:00.273
- yes.
00:52:00.273 --> 00:52:01.208
I had to learn to separate my...
00:52:01.208 --> 00:52:04.211
Guess what, i had to learn...
00:52:04.844 --> 00:52:06.479
I'm not people's savior.
00:52:06.479 --> 00:52:08.481
Jesus is. - isn't that a relief?
00:52:08.481 --> 00:52:10.250
- yes, but i was taking way too much.
00:52:10.250 --> 00:52:12.719
You know what it's like.
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.054
You meet someone in a book signing or speak
00:52:14.054 --> 00:52:15.488
And you only have 30 seconds with them.
00:52:15.488 --> 00:52:18.525
They're holding onto every word
00:52:18.525 --> 00:52:19.726
And you're like, "lord, what can i say?
00:52:19.726 --> 00:52:21.061
They need a pastor. they need a counselor.
00:52:21.061 --> 00:52:22.796
They need a care team."
00:52:22.796 --> 00:52:24.364
And these are all trues
00:52:24.364 --> 00:52:25.632
That we have to walk in every single day.
00:52:25.632 --> 00:52:28.034
And so step one is lean into what's ever making you afraid
00:52:28.034 --> 00:52:31.238
And trust god's word.
00:52:31.238 --> 00:52:32.872
He's with you, just like you had that experience.
00:52:32.872 --> 00:52:36.076
Oh, i'm not alone.
00:52:36.076 --> 00:52:37.210
The holy spirit is with me.
00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:38.345
- yeah.
00:52:38.345 --> 00:52:39.279
I wanted to read something.
00:52:39.279 --> 00:52:40.680
Throughout this bible, jeremiah has peace notes.
00:52:40.680 --> 00:52:44.117
And this one i wanna read to you.
00:52:44.117 --> 00:52:46.386
This is what it says.
00:52:46.386 --> 00:52:47.654
"you won't find peace in the church,
00:52:47.654 --> 00:52:50.991
In christian service, or in any expected place.
00:52:50.991 --> 00:52:55.462
Peace comes...
00:52:55.462 --> 00:52:59.032
Peace comes from jesus,
00:52:59.566 --> 00:53:01.835
The way, the truth, and the life."
00:53:01.835 --> 00:53:06.039
Talk to us about that.
00:53:06.539 --> 00:53:08.208
- praise god.
00:53:08.575 --> 00:53:09.909
Praise jesus.
00:53:10.277 --> 00:53:11.411
(audience applauding)
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It's shalom.
00:53:14.114 --> 00:53:15.415
- yeah. - shalom.
00:53:15.415 --> 00:53:16.516
What is the first word jesus says
00:53:16.516 --> 00:53:17.917
When he resurrects from the dead?
00:53:17.917 --> 00:53:19.819
"shalom.
00:53:19.819 --> 00:53:22.022
I've got this."
00:53:22.389 --> 00:53:24.224
Peace, the way i spell it is j-e-s-u-s.
00:53:24.224 --> 00:53:29.496
I have come to give you peace.
00:53:30.130 --> 00:53:31.598
I'm with you.
00:53:31.598 --> 00:53:32.999
I'm here.
00:53:32.999 --> 00:53:34.401
Jesus is the x-factor that your marriage needs.
00:53:34.401 --> 00:53:37.437
Jesus is the x factor
00:53:37.437 --> 00:53:38.872
That you need at your job or your career.
00:53:38.872 --> 00:53:41.374
Jesus needs to get you up to do something.
00:53:41.374 --> 00:53:44.144
It's amazing.
00:53:44.144 --> 00:53:45.078
I got a peace plan for my life,
00:53:45.078 --> 00:53:46.212
And i got really bold, and i thought,
00:53:46.212 --> 00:53:48.348
We can do more for christ.
00:53:48.348 --> 00:53:50.417
Let's just keep pressing in
00:53:50.417 --> 00:53:51.951
To whatever's causing us and just do more.
00:53:51.951 --> 00:53:54.254
And i haven't stopped yet.
00:53:54.254 --> 00:53:56.056
I've noticed.
00:53:56.056 --> 00:53:57.023
And this is where just we...
00:53:57.023 --> 00:53:59.059
It fuels us, and we just...
00:53:59.059 --> 00:54:01.194
And so important too,
00:54:01.194 --> 00:54:03.396
That time with the lord regularly,
00:54:03.396 --> 00:54:05.799
Wrapping myself in the word of god,
00:54:05.799 --> 00:54:08.034
Constantly wrapping myself in the promises of god.
00:54:08.034 --> 00:54:11.738
That is key.
00:54:11.738 --> 00:54:12.872
That is unmissable.
00:54:12.872 --> 00:54:14.174
And so, yes, we don't worship the church.
00:54:14.174 --> 00:54:16.409
We don't worship christianity.
00:54:16.409 --> 00:54:17.777
We worship jesus where our peace is found.
00:54:17.777 --> 00:54:20.380
- i could talk to you literally for hours.
00:54:20.380 --> 00:54:23.950
We're running outta time.
00:54:23.950 --> 00:54:25.218
I would just love you to take a couple of minutes
00:54:25.218 --> 00:54:27.087
And just pray for our audience.
00:54:27.087 --> 00:54:29.255
- right. absolutely. - i would love that.
00:54:29.255 --> 00:54:31.958
- and i don't want this to be awkward,
00:54:32.792 --> 00:54:34.461
But i wanna pray with my eyes open.
00:54:34.461 --> 00:54:36.029
I actually went to starbucks once in a seminary course,
00:54:36.029 --> 00:54:38.898
And they made us pray with our eyes open
00:54:38.898 --> 00:54:40.467
Just to show that that was possible.
00:54:40.467 --> 00:54:42.068
So tell barry to open his eyes when he drives praying, okay?
00:54:42.068 --> 00:54:45.705
So i wanna just pray for you right now.
00:54:45.705 --> 00:54:48.341
Jesus, we have people watching all over the world right now
00:54:48.341 --> 00:54:51.978
Who need your peace.
00:54:51.978 --> 00:54:53.213
They are in a crisis.
00:54:53.213 --> 00:54:54.848
And it is a true crisis, lord.
00:54:54.848 --> 00:54:56.883
And what's amazing, god, is you know all the details.
00:54:56.883 --> 00:54:59.619
And so, jesus, i ask you in your holy name
00:54:59.619 --> 00:55:03.022
To meet every person right now
00:55:03.022 --> 00:55:05.425
At their greatest point of need.
00:55:05.425 --> 00:55:08.094
Whatever needs to change it,
00:55:08.094 --> 00:55:10.263
Lord, if there's sin, repentance needs to happen.
00:55:10.263 --> 00:55:13.233
If it's anxiety from suffering, healing needs to happen.
00:55:13.233 --> 00:55:17.036
If it's pain in a relationship,
00:55:17.036 --> 00:55:19.239
Healing and restoration needs to happen.
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.274
Jesus strengthen my brother, my sister
00:55:21.274 --> 00:55:24.210
Who's watching right now
00:55:24.210 --> 00:55:25.779
And give them this strength to walk forward
00:55:25.779 --> 00:55:28.815
In whatever is their greatest fear right now.
00:55:28.815 --> 00:55:31.418
Just say, i'm not going to be paralyzed anymore
00:55:31.418 --> 00:55:33.520
By this fear.
00:55:33.520 --> 00:55:34.821
I'm gonna walk forward in faith in jesus' name.
00:55:34.821 --> 00:55:38.291
Amen. - amen.
00:55:38.291 --> 00:55:39.959
And i cannot recommend this bible highly enough.
00:55:39.959 --> 00:55:45.231
Get a couple of copies.
00:55:45.732 --> 00:55:46.800
Give one to someone.
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:47.934
Maybe you've got a neighbor
00:55:47.934 --> 00:55:49.269
Who's kinda interested but they're not sure.
00:55:49.269 --> 00:55:51.137
Why don't you get one for them?
00:55:51.137 --> 00:55:52.872
But, jeremiah, on behalf of all of us,
00:55:52.872 --> 00:55:55.809
I want to thank you for this steadfast path that you are on.
00:55:55.809 --> 00:56:01.648
It'd be very easy to just think,
00:56:02.282 --> 00:56:03.683
You know what, i've done enough, i'm done, but you don't.
00:56:03.683 --> 00:56:05.885
You keep taking the next step and the next step,
00:56:05.885 --> 00:56:08.121
And we are all for it.
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Would you help me thank?
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- praise god. (all applauding)
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Praise the lord. thank you, guys.
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Thank you.
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- thank you for joining us.
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It's been wonderful to have you with us here.
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And i just want you to know, here at tbn,
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We believe that christ is the answer.
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Whatever you're struggling with right now.
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And i just want you to know,
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Do you know there's no prayer that's too small?
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There's nothing that's too small for god.
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You can talk to him of everything.
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And the peace of christ
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Will keep your hearts and your minds.
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On behalf of your tbn family, we love you.
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We'll see you next time.
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(all applauding)
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(upbeat music)
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Jeremiah Johnston: Finding Peace in the Chaos | Praise

April 13, 2026 | 57:9

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