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Judah Smith: Transforming Your Mindset | Praise

September 16, 2025 | 54:17

Matt and Laurie Crouch welcome Pastor Judah Smith to discuss his new book, Bad Thoughts. Explore how your thinking shapes your life and discover guidance for overcoming negative patterns.

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Praise | Judah Smith: Transforming Your Mindset | Praise | September 16, 2025

Coming up tonight on praise...
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I think the future of the church, the future of jesus
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Followers, is going to be a profound demonstration of
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Brokenness like we've never seen before.
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Maybe our meetings are going to look a little bit more like aa,
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And we're all just going to come in and say, listen,
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Without god, i'm an addict, without god, i'm broken and i'm
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A nightmare.
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Life gets real hard when you don't have hope.
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We project such a completed process that it doesn't
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Give people hope.
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It makes them feel like, man, i
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Don't think i could ever do that.
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Wow. so, i mean, more than anything, man, like, anything
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We do, anything going forward,
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Like, i just want it to reek of
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Hope and somebody can go, whoa, bro.
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Like, if god can help that guy, like, i know he can help me.
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♪♪
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Tonight on praise from
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Los angeles, lead pastor at churchhome,
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Author and global voice of faith, judah smith.
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And now your hosts, matt and laurie crouch.
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For one solid hour.
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We are going to be completely entertained by judah smith.
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And i'm so excited. judah, not only
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Are we welcoming you to southern california and to
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Studio a at the tbn complex,
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This is kind of your church, too.
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It's now studio j.
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Yeah. studio--
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Wow, what an honor.
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Yeah, we record all of our weekly sermons right here in
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This studio and have now for several months because you have
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Been gracious to have us.
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And, uh, the team's amazing, by the way, the people behind
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These cameras that work here. which one?
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Everyone's happy,
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By the way. i haven't met a sad person yet.
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Well, praise god. but i mean, it's true.
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Happy is a good springboard to what we're going to be talking
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About today.
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Kind of, uh, counteract the
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Name of your book, bad thoughts.
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Give us the good news first before we go
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The bad thoughts.
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Yeah. you know, the title is a is a team effort.
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It's not my favorite because i like to be positive.
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But, uh, you are what you think, right?
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The scripture says, as a man thinks in his heart, so is he.
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In other words, your life goes
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In the direction of your thoughts.
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We all have thoughts.
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So anytime you see anything about thought life, it's really
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For everybody.
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If you're having good thoughts, if you're having bad thoughts,
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Or if you're having thoughtless thoughts, you don't think about
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Your thoughts,
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Um, or if you're like me, bad thoughts kind of surface and
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I feel like i'm not in control of them.
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And suddenly my whole entire day and sometimes weeks can be
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Taken over by a reoccurring negative thought.
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Or you ever had one of these?
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The impending doom thought. what if something bad happens?
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What if this morning i was driving in the rain to get
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To the airport?
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I wasn't speeding or anything.
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I was a little late for my flight to get here, but, um,
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You know, all of a sudden, the thought hydroplane.
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And what if i did?
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You know, and those thoughts can be so crippling.
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Um, and then at the same time, you ever had a really good
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Thought, and you want to keep thinking it, but it, like, goes
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Away like a vapor. wow.
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Um, this is my therapist, les parrott, and he has helped
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Me, not just with my bad thoughts.
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He's helped me keep my good thoughts.
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He's helped me recognize how to live a consistent life of the
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Kind of thoughts-- like, if i asked people right now, your
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Prevailing thought, is that the
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Direction you want your life to go?
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And if it's not, let's consider is there a way to change the
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Prevailing thought in our life?
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My dad taught me as a young man, and this is a total cheat
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And a total advantage,
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But he said, people like you and they want to hear
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What you have to say.
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And i honestly, that became, without knowing it, the
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Prevailing thought of my adolescence and teenage years.
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It's why i talk so much and won't stop because i still
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Believe people like me and they
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Want to hear what i have to say.
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I think in a way, i'd love this book to serve up to anyone,
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Anywhere, the opportunity to have a prevailing thought like
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That, that's anchored to who god says they are.
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Maybe you don't have a dad like wendell, but you have a
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Heavenly father who has these incredible thoughts towards you
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As numerous as the sand on the seashore
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The scripture says, and what if
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You started thinking on those thoughts?
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I think it could change the trajectory of your life.
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And so i'm excited.
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This is not just about bad thoughts,
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Let the record show.
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Let's talk about good thoughts too okay.
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The good news is that was one of the best intros and
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Setups i've ever heard. yes.
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The bad news is i think it's all downhill from now.
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No, it's not. no.
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Now take that bad thought and teach on it.
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Okay, okay.
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I just thought we could also do kickboxing because you taught
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Me about your kickboxing past.
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So we could turn this into, like, fight night.
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So worst case scenario.
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And you can show me that
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Roundhouse you were talking about.
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Ladies and gentlemen, i had no
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Idea this man was a bodybuilder.
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And he also runs a marathon every week.
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What? the inadequacy that i feel.
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Speaking of bad thoughts. exaggerating now.
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So he's preaching.
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He's exaggeration. so true.
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What's the difference between your thoughts and meditating?
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Very good. well, the hebrew thought of meditation is mutter.
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Right. it's this idea of muttering.
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And by the way, meditation in culture has become kind of
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Synonymous with this kind of zen state where we kind of hum
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And there's almost a thoughtlessness.
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But meditation in the hebrew kind of ancient scripture is
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This idea of muttering.
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So it's almost a talking to yourself, which i think is a
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Huge advantage and kind of an on board or an on ramp to your
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Thought life that you can mutter to yourself.
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Yeah. um, i do it.
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I'm going to reference golf a lot because i've been
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Playing a lot of golf. it's summertime, you know.
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Um, but i do a lot of-- they talk about
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This in sports psychology.
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Your self-talk is so important.
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I think it was buckner for the red sox years ago,
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World series ball goes through his legs.
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Well, a week before he says, well, it's not like he's not
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Like the ball is going to go through my legs and we're
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Gonna lose the world series.
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And then it happens.
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And they say psychologically, you know, the percentages
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Increase when you start to mutter or you verbalize things.
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So i think starting to say what god says about you and we all
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Mutter in different ways, um, but i like doing it.
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This morning i was talking to myself, as odd
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As that sounds.
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And i was just saying, you know, that i'm so blessed
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And god, thank you for loving me.
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And this is amazing and i love this life.
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And i'm happy to see matt and laurie.
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It's going to be a great day.
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And, uh, it didn't sound like prayer as much as it sounded
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Like me talking to myself,
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But i think that's a form of meditation.
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Yeah, well, you think about david,
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I will meditate on your word day and night.
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So if you worry, you can meditate.
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Wow. right. that's right.
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So meditating on god's word and his thoughts towards you.
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If we could just get one of those thoughts towards us would
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Change our life, wouldn't it?
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Change our life.
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God thinking his wonderful thoughts about us.
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And by the way, i think in tandem to meditation, which is
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Mutter is waiting on god.
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And you know, the hebrew thought of waiting on god is
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To whirl with him. and so actually meditation--
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So meditating and waiting, i think, are two of the most
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Underrated advantages we have in our walk with jesus.
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And i think if you learn to mutter and whirl-- and whirl
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Is actually what they did at jericho.
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They walked around the walls and you just walk with them and
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You don't do anything.
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But you whirl with him and you whirl around the situation with
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Him, and you get a renewed perspective and a sense of his,
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His providence and his grandeur and that, like whatever it is
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That you're facing-- and not to minimize what anyone is facing,
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It could be cancer.
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It could be a loss of job, it
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Could be a relationship breakup.
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These are real pains, but we
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Can whirl with god around those things.
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And there's a number of different ways to do that,
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Using music and that sort of thing.
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But man, if you can get a thought from god and mutter it
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And kind of whirl with him--
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And i know this might sound strange, but for me, when i get
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Creative is a way that i whirl.
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So i'll sketch, i'll draw, i'll paint, um,
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I'll sing, you know, to myself, uh, all of these things,
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I think are a little bit kind of
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Mystical, but i think beautiful.
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And the scripture says be led by the spirit.
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And so i think there's a lot of
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Freedom there that that we can enjoy.
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That's beautiful.
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Let me just jump in and just say, uh, first of all, um, you
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Are now on record with a bunch
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Of new york times best selling books.
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Judah, a lot of people know, uh, your sermons and you,
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You're a super out of the box dude.
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Okay. so you come from this legitimate kind of pentecostal
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Thing, but you broke the mold in a bunch of ways.
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Can you talk a little bit about that journey?
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Because one thing is thoughts,
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Good thoughts, bad thoughts,
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But what about faith thoughts?
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We got to grab some faith thoughts and project into
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Accomplishing great things.
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We have to see the heavens made manifest on earth, and only
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Game changing rule breakers are
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Going to see some of that stuff happen.
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He is not normal.
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Okay. and so now--
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Look who's talking. yeah. okay.
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So basically give us a little bit of your journey because,
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You know, if you if you wind the clock back, you know,
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30 years we're cut out of the same cloth.
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Now i'm 30 years ahead of you, but we're we're out
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Of the same cloth.
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Okay. and the idea that you sat down before camera and said.
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I've always identified with your mother.
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Yeah. you know, she was a super creative person.
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She was super grounded.
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She knew the word better than most anybody i've ever known.
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Okay. and now, she was as kooky as a loony bird sometimes.
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And, you know, pink hair and the whole--
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Okay. she was out of the box, so i'm used to
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She was kind of, uh, seeing people want to break out.
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But you did it.
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You've done it a number of times, and you broke some
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Traditional things that i think, uh, these thoughts, if
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You didn't have some correct thoughts, you would have never
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Had the courage to do it.
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I appreciate that, and i do think that i identify
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With you a lot. i think there's a there's
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A real synergy in terms of your journey.
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Your dad was so out of the box.
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Your mom was so out of the box.
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Pioneers, true pioneers, even the stuff we talked about
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Before we came on camera.
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Um, and i love that about both of you.
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And i'm very, very grateful for that.
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I think to set it up, i'll say this. sometimes we think of
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Thoughts as they just come.
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But you know what?
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You can take somebody else's thought,
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God's thought, and make it your thought.
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There it is. and that's a powerful notion.
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And you don't even have to make it happen.
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You just kind of accept it and receive it,
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Um, which is a whole concept we can talk about.
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But i'll say this. there were some thoughts along
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The way that changed my whole paradigm.
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I'm a seventh generation preacher, goes all the way back
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To a circuit riding woman, preacher with a gun and a bible
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In new mexico, going around to encampments telling them--
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What year roughly?
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Oh gosh, i'm so bad with timelines.
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If chelsea, my wife was here--
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Early 1800s.
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Yeah, yeah, it's like 150 to 200 years ago.
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150 years ago. yeah.
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Okay. stop there one second.
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My dad's grandmother was a circuit riding revivalist woman
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With a team of horses preaching pentecost in 1890s.
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Okay, so talk about crazy coincidence.
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I've never met anyone who's had the similar--
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My dad's grandmother, grandma swingley,
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Uh, 1890, her husband died and she sold the illinois iowa
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Farm, bought a team of horses, a tent, traveled, and then
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Financed once the assemblies of god started in 1914,
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My grandfather was at the founding meeting.
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My grand-- my-- that would have been
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My great grandmother, uh, financed the crouch family to
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Be missionaries to the middle east.
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My dad grew up in, uh, egypt speaking arabic.
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Come on. my father.
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Mm. okay. tell me--
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Well, i mean, but this speaks to the thoughts that your dad
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Had came from this journey. by the way,
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Like to think that our roots go back to a woman preacher
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Which still in this very day is controversial.
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I tell people you got to me too late.
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This goes way back.
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Like, you know, i think women can run the world.
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So, like, you know, it is what it is, man. that that ship
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Sailed a long time ago. that's right.
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Um, but, uh, i my dad was, um,
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Very, very artistic and very passionate.
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We were part of a church in portland, oregon, in 1992.
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God speaks to him.
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And we moved to seattle.
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We start with 25 people in the courtyard marriott in bellevue.
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I'm 13. my sister's 15.
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But i had already started preaching at nine years old.
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I did my first full sermon at 13 and my first week of revival
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In alaska when i was 16, and part of that is my dad traveled
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Around with a seminar called the dragon slayer seminar.
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It was the 80s and it was multi visual.
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There was a slide show with pat boone narrating.
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And so, you know, as a young boy, i saw creativity in terms
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Of getting the message out about jesus.
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And so that was very normal to my sister and i.
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She now pastors a church in vegas.
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It's amazing.
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And so, um, i always had it in me to be like, we will do
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Everything, you know, only stop at sin,
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You know, to tell people about the love of jesus.
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And but it has occurred to me, too, like either we believe
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That we have the greatest story ever told that can heal the
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Human soul and reconcile nations and continents and
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Countries, or we don't.
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And if we do, then we got to get the message out.
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We can't keep this to just
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One demographic or one part of the world.
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We got to--
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And that's a big part of why i'm here.
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Because that message, i think what i know-- i'm circling back
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And i'm jumping all over, but what identified with your mom
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Is i felt her love for people was so profound and so deep,
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You know, when she would just look at people and lean in and
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She would start crying.
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And i just remember being seven, eight, nine, ten,
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Watching your mom cry with people.
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And now i'm going to cry,
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But like that, that meant a lot to me.
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Um, because i think there's there's so much beauty there
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When people are so valuable to you. so full circle,
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I started having these thoughts, um, as a young man.
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I became my dad's youth pastor and it started to grow.
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We started to do services at the university of washington.
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Bill gates built this theater, and i said, let's rent it out.
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It sat 1000 students and let's just see if they'll come.
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Uh, i started preaching and we
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Just started growing, growing, growing.
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My dad gets diagnosed with cancer.
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Supposed to live six months, live six years.
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The board in the process goes,
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We think you're the next pastor.
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I was like, i don't know if i'm the next pastor.
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Um, but i stepped in as the preaching pastor, exhausted all
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My sermons, and then had nothing left.
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Uh, my dad passes.
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I'm the preacher and, uh, a preacher once told me, whatever
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You do will grow, and it will be your greatest challenge in
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Your whole life.
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And i thought, that doesn't sound like a challenge.
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That sounds like a blessing.
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But i just kept preaching.
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Church kept growing, uh, to
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A point where, uh, i just was exhausted.
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And it was one of the biggest in the country.
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It got pretty big. yeah, yeah, it got pretty big.
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Then what? yeah, then,
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Then i woke up one day and didn't know what year it was
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And what month it was.
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I didn't know where i was.
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It was 11 sermons, some sundays, four on wednesday
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Between two cities, seattle and l.a.
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And all of my mentors who i love and adore to this day just
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Kept telling me, do more, more, more.
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We had seven campuses
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And i was like, wait, where does this stop?
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Um, and so god started speaking to me about getting out of the
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Box and doing things like we've never done before.
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By that time, i had started a bible study in la on accident.
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Um, that's a long story.
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People just started getting saved, and it's now developed
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Into a community of faith.
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And, um, that's where i, you know, really connect with you
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Guys as well in terms of loving hollywood and loving this city.
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Everyone tells me to get out, and i got to tell you,
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I'm not leaving. i'm on a mission.
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I love this city so much.
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I love the people in it.
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I love how wild it is and eclectic it is and artistic it
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Is and passionate it is.
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And hurting and broken.
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And so we're here and i just feel like it's a privilege.
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But to me, the simple thought that changed my life because
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Thoughts can change your life, is that god can do anything,
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Anywhere, at any time.
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So let's go with him. wherever that is,
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Let's go with him.
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And perhaps like to me, what excites me is that there could
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Be somebody watching right now who's like me watching your
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Mom, who's six, seven, eight, nine, and they're never going
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To know who i am or what i'm about or where i'm going, but
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They can connect with my passion and go whatever that is,
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Like, i want to do that with the rest of my life.
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And it makes me emotional because i think, you know,
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Nothing is more sacred and valuable than people.
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It's the most valuable thing on the planet.
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And, um, you know, there are people that still don't know
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How loved they are by god.
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And so we've got to tell them how loved they are.
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And so i'm recruiting.
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I'm recruiting people who will go with me to the ends of the
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Earth, and let's go tell more
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People that god already loves him.
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He's already paid the price to forgive them, and they're a
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Part of his family because the earth is the lord's and the
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Fullness thereof, and they're all his kids.
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Amen. god's not done with california.
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Come on. there's a mission.
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It's going to happen.
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Laurie and i are going to put our foot down on the pedal
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On that, and we're going to see that happen.
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We're with you on that.
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And god's been stirring.
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I had a dream.
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Never told anybody this.
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I had a dream about 2 or 3 months ago.
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And i was in a big building when i mean, a big building, i
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Mean a big one, like 50 story,
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30 story, some big giant building, and judah,
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I was down in the bottom of this building, in the basement
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Looking at all like the things that make a big
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Building like that go.
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You know, things that heat the water, things that pump the
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Water, all the-- all the mechanical room.
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And i was looking at a bunch of detail and i went out a door
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And there was like a patio where, like, you would think
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That a big building like that, where you'd have a big giant
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Wheel this big, where you'd turn the water off if like, you
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Had to turn the water off to the whole building, you'd
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Turn a wheel this big and it'd turn it off, you know.
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And i remember walking over there and i was looking around
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And i could tell i was in california,
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And i could tell by the foliage.
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I could tell because i've lived here all my life and i've lived
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In, in literally in the city of hollywood for 20 years.
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So i know what the vegetation looks like.
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And, and i went over and i was looking at it extreme detail.
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I started just to look up to the building to see the
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Exterior of the building, and i woke up.
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I don't know exactly where i was.
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I could speculate as to where i was, but i've had three dreams
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About buildings in my life, and the first two were fulfilled
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Exactly the way it happened.
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There's some big building we're going to have to occupy.
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We're going to need a lot of content.
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There's something going on.
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We're talking 2025 here and beyond.
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And, um, the attitude that got you to where you are
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We're behind you.
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And you said, off camera, i'm not going anywhere.
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You know, and i love that.
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And you just, you know, i could tell you
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Kind of mean it.
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Yeah. you are so normal to me.
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Maybe odd to others, but normal to me.
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Think of who raised me.
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You know, they talk about out of the box people.
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And i love-- okay-- i love that.
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You have thousands of, tens of thousands of people
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Going to your church, and one day you decide what?
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What happened?
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One day i asked the team-- i had a hunch.
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And that's part of thoughts, too.
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God gives you a holy hunch, and you get an idea, a thought
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That hits you.
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And the idea was, we're not being as effective as
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We think we are.
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We have a big building.
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We've set records in the northwest.
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We have a really big budget, but we're not as effective as
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We think we are.
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We did research.
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We discovered 97% of church growth is transfer growth.
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What that means is we're just swapping people.
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Um, we discovered that 50% of americans will never
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Step foot in church ever.
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They want god, but they don't want to be judged.
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They don't want to be invited to a building.
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I was like, no problem.
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You know, we've been mobile since the beginning.
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You go back to the early christians.
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We weren't called christians.
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We were called the way. we were--
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We were in the way, we were on the way, we were moving like we
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Were following jesus.
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It was the great adventure.
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And so like, buildings are those are way more modern
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Than they are ancient.
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Like, we are house to house.
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We're sharing bread and food and laughter and joy.
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And so i thought, well, we can do this.
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What if we leveraged--
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And so i tell some of my buddies who do a lot of
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Of buildings and i love buildings, by the way,
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And i love stages. and i so miss a lot of it.
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And i do it once a month now, but we're going to go
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After the other 50%. yeah.
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Just give me a shot at them.
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We're going to go after the other 50% by all means
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Necessary, and we're going to go take them the love of jesus,
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Because i think he's almost irresistible.
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I just think people don't know.
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I just think people know how good and wonderful jesus is.
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Like he is so indescribable. i love him.
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Yeah. thoughts matter.
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Yeah. you've written an entire book about it with les parrott.
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Les' book, love like this.
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Come on.
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Is one of the most dense--
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If, if, if if he would have brought love like this to me as
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A publisher, i would have broken that book into about
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Six books and published.
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Sounds like less. yeah.
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It's so dense and so thick and so amazing.
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And there was a time when you made a dramatic change, you're
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Going to do something different, and then you decided
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To find les and start actually getting therapy, which is
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Really the context of what this book is.
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This is kind of an insider look at you doing that.
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So answer the hardest question first.
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If you wind the clock back into the pentecostal world, uh, you
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Know, a generation at least---
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You're going to find an attitude that exists there that
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You can't be a born again follower of jesus--
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Right?
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Especially spirit-filled born again follower of jesus
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And need therapy. it's mutually exclusive.
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What do you say to that?
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I mean, okay, so where do we end with that logic?
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If you want to go logic,
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Okay. so should we not brush our teeth because we
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Have enough faith, you know?
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Should we not get six, eight, nine hours of sleep because
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We have enough faith?
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The logic is somewhat self-canceling that, you know,
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If you have enough faith, or if you're spiritual enough,
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You won't need to do any natural things.
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Of course, that doesn't hold up.
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The scripture says first the natural, then the spiritual.
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So some things are natural and some things are spiritual.
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Doing a series right now with our community called when it
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Actually is spiritual, but some things are natural.
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And i think i in our tradition we grew up, like just pray on
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It, just pray on it.
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And but i think god gives skills just like a dentist
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Or a doctor or a lawyer,
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He gives skills to his children.
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And les parrott is a very
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Skilled man to help me with my thoughts.
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And i had reoccurring, i had grooves in my brain that were
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Helping me think the same thoughts over and over.
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And then there were cycles i couldn't break out of, and i
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Would pray about it and ask god, but les just,
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He normalized it.
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I remember a moment, and this would be really candid,
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Uh, he, was talking about, uh, my attraction to women and
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Being faithful to my wife, which i have been,
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Thank god. i am so in love with her, 25 years.
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And he said, judah, he said, you know, when you're attracted
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To another woman, what does that feel like?
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And i didn't know i did this.
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Him and leslie and chelsea and i are sitting there
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And i dropped my head like this.
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And he goes, what's going on right now?
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And i go, i looked up, i go, what do you mean?
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I'm thinking about the question.
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He goes, no, your whole body, just your head just dropped.
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By even asking the question that you're attracted to another
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Woman, shame just came over you. what is that?
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And i was like, what do you mean?
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He's like, are you ashamed when you see an attractive woman
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And your brain registers that?
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And you know what? i thought,
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Yeah, i thought it was-- he's like, that's not sin.
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It's what you do--
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Like that groove in my brain that said, being attracted to
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Another woman is that there's shame in that.
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And those are the kinds of
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Things that having a skilled person--
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So here's the deal. therapy--
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I love all these preachers out there telling everyone
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To go get therapy.
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You know how expensive therapy is?
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So it's a real high class like application to sermons these
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Days, as all these preachers are like, go get therapy,
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You need therapy.
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I want to yell back from the congregation, do you want
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To pay for it? you know what i mean?
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So, like, it's really expensive.
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So i thought, les, let's do therapy in a book, and this
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Therapy will cost you, i don't know, what, $17.99 or whatever.
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I'm dead serious.
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This is me and my therapy with les parrott.
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That's really--
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We wanted to call the book a preacher and a shrink.
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I still think it's a better title, but that's not the point.
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But that's really what it is.
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It's me saying that's why the like the scramble in my brain
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And les looks like the zen master, but, um, it's really
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Me doing therapy.
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And i just realized that a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, a
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Therapist, it's the same thing i do.
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There are natural things that god gives skills that can
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Really help you along your journey.
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So i'm excited.
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Stop for a moment. okay.
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Just breathe.
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Yeah. just just for a second.
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I, i-- that is literally the best answer i've ever heard.
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On the subject. wow.
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That is literally the best answer.
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Okay, just hang on for a second, because,
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Listen, i wouldn't have known how to answer that.
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Wow. and i'm twice your age.
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Okay. i would not have known how to answer that.
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You just answered that very well.
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You've broken down some really horrible stereotypes
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That, you know, uh, especially, uh, in two categories,
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Therapy and then get a load of this,
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Um, marriage counseling.
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Yeah. pentecostal preacher.
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Okay. 30, 40 years ago. 40 years this month.
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Oh. come on.
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And so, um, i go to a pentecostal preacher that if i
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Said his name on this camera,
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Okay, every single person
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Watching this would know his name.
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And i said, do i tell laurie, uh, about that event?
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And he goes, let me tell you who to tell.
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Go tell your cat and shoot your cat.
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Be honest. as god is my witness.
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Okay.
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That was how-- to shoot the cat part was brutal.
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Yeah, i know. it's awful.
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You didn't care about the other part?
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Just shooting the cat.
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Sorry. yeah. god's animals.
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You know. you are devastated.
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You are so young. what a snowflake.
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Come on.
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The cat didn't do anything to you.
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Yeah. save the cat.
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So, therapy back in the day and counseling
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And all that was,
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Tell your cat and shoot
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Your cat, and then you can't possibly--
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You just answered that in a really good way.
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Okay, if you have enough faith, you don't brush your teeth?
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You know, you know, i mean,
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We're coming down the stairs,
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And laurie goes, i don't think i put deodorant on
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This morning. oh, crud. i didn't either.
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So i have to go shoot back--
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You guys are all natural.
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We're super spirit-filled and we're super faithful,
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But we wear deodorant.
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Still get b.o.. yeah.
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You still get bad thoughts. i don't have any.
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I wear deodorant. oh. that's right.
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To cover up the b.o.. that's right.
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We're all covering right now.
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She's so nervous.
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She has a little sweat going.
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Okay. uh, that was literally the best answer.
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Uh, and and the best sales piece for this i've ever heard.
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Seriously. wow.
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So, look, bad thoughts.
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A preacher and a shrink's
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Guide to reclaiming your mind and soul.
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The shrink is les parrot, okay, and he's kind of good
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At what he does.
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The best shrink.
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Yeah. but i do think it's so
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Important who you get therapy from.
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Talk about that for a minute.
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Yeah, because you can go to a really bad--
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Knucklehead. and i can't afford les parrot.
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First of all, he wants everyone to know that he did all my
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Therapy for free. he's very proud of that.
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So les, if you're watching,
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Thank you.
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And i'm never going to pay you, but--
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Um, i-- in this sense,
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If i could brag and say,
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I got you the best, i got you the best.
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Never in my mind, in modern history has a current preacher
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Ever got together with a therapist and
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Put it all in a book to say, here's what i'm dealing with
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And here's what i'm going through.
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The five toxic thoughts are my five toxic thoughts.
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That's all they are.
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It's like, this is what we worked through and this is
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What we faced.
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And so there's doodles in there and i promise you, like it's
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It's not hyperbole.
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We really just said, here's the book.
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And if at least it gives someone the sense of, all
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Right, if they can do this, i can do this, but i think this
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Could save you a lot of money.
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And you're really safe in les's hands.
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Really safe.
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This man is actually a genius.
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And it pains me to say that because of our relationship,
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But i think he might be a card carrying genius.
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Well, he's going to come on soon, and he's--
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Okay. that's right.
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That's a whole other side of this.
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We're going to bring him on.
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And we're going to talk about you the whole time.
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Um, new york times best selling authors judah smith and doctor
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Les parrott have teamed up, bad thoughts.
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It is available wherever books are sold.
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And there's this little company called amazon.
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You might be able to get it from. um,
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What do you kind of want to, um, take something out of you,
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Give us an example of what you were dealing with.
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You did the shame thing. got that?
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Give us, you know, um--
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Give us another top five. you know? yeah.
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Give us something else in there that that shows us that
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This is legit.
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Yeah. um,
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I have felt, uh, very much like i
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Was-- i owed people, um, my time, my energy, my attention.
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Uh, i was raised, uh, by a mom and dad that, uh, people giving
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You access to their life is a
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Privilege and an honor, and you gotta--
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And so there is a whole journey
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That les and i went through where i started to learn,
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Um, no.
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And the power of no, uh, because i'm a pleaser.
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There's a whole chapter on this pleaser.
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Uh, i am a pleaser of the worst kind.
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You've never met a pleaser like me.
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Um, i, i will agree with people i don't agree with just
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To please them. you know, it's like--
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And then chelsea's like, what were you doing?
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I'm like, i don't know.
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That's not what we believe, but i just it felt so right to
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Make him feel happy. you know what i mean?
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Like, you know, i was like, are you buddhist?
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I'm like, no, but that sounded so good.
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I just am down with them, you know?
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It's like, i don't know, so i just but it's in me just to,
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Like, i want to win with people and i want them to win.
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And so there's this whole chapter committed to, uh,
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Being set free.
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But we dive into why, why do you need to please people?
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And, you know, what's weird is that i felt so selfless, but it
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Actually was selfish.
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It was really me serving me. wow.
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You know, and so then i'm not being honest with people.
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I'm not building boundaries.
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I'm leading people on.
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And guess what?
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A lot of these relationships would end
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Not well or there would be such a disappointment drop off--
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You ever had a relationship where,
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Yeah, but you can't keep it up.
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But you're trying because you're giving them all this
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Time and attention and they're like, we're best friends now.
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And you're like, oh my gosh, i barely know you.
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We're not best friends. oh no.
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And then i just drop them off, you know, and then they
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Wouldn't hear from me and it would be like, what's wrong?
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Because i was so engaged.
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And so i wanted to change some of those things about my life,
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Over committing, over promising, telling people i was
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Going to do things. i'm going to do that.
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And, you know, of course, chelse, uh, the real brains of
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The operation around my parts, um, chelsea's like, you're
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Never going to do that.
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Why did you say that?
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And i'd be like, ah, i'm going to try so--
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Whoa. did you see the body language all of a sudden?
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Yeah.
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I think there's a bearing witness here
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Is how they say it in the church growing up.
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He does that all the time.
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I felt-- i felt you looking at me.
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Yeah. he'll say--
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Oh, i saw it. yeah.
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We'll try to be there. and i just look--
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And now it's like i look at him
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And go, what are you talking about?
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We're not even in the country --
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I need your book. during that time.
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Yes. but yes.
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I'll sell it to you right now on camera $17.99.
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Give me your venmo.
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Exactly. oh my gosh.
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It's a real thing.
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And now it's going to take your
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Assistant's calling and telling them.
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And just time to clean it up.
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Because you can't just say,
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Sorry, we're not in town for that.
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Are you bagging on me because i'm a nice guy?
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No, it's-- it is.
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It's the same thing. it's the same.
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Yeah, i understand that
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Complete, you know, kind of thing.
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And in case somebody's--
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But not necessarily a people pleaser.
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Uh, well. we're not--
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He's a conundrum. we're not twins, okay?
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We're not twins.
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But we have that in common.
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And everybody said--
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We're not, we're not--
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We're not-- let me clarify, yeah.
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From the same-- couple kickboxers.
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Okay. so, uh, there is a lot
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Of stereotypes that you have broken.
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You are a stereotype breaker.
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Do you feel that your--
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Can you apply romans 8:28 to even your
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Shame or your people pleasing?
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And i mean, does some of that drive you to a point where then
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God can use you to be a box breaker?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So talk about the fact that maybe you have some experience
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That's going to benefit you and teach on that.
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Give us a little bit of good news in regard to some of
00:35:59.847 --> 00:36:03.217
These things, because you've broken some stereotypes
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A lot in your life.
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And i think it's rooted in this idea.
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And here's the big question, what does god want from us?
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Does god need me to be a lawyer
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Or a doctor, a dentist, a preacher?
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Is god in heaven going,
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Judah's finally preached a good enough sermon.
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That's what we needed.
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That's what was the key to everything i'm doing on earth.
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What does god want from us?
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How do you summarize that?
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So this happened to me recently.
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I was like, what does he want?
00:36:30.177 --> 00:36:31.412
You ever been in a relationship where you give so much and
00:36:31.412 --> 00:36:33.381
They're still not happy and you're like,
00:36:33.381 --> 00:36:34.348
What do you want from me?
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Like, literally what i say. 25 years of marriage, i've said
00:36:35.616 --> 00:36:38.085
That about 2500 times, you know.
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Chelse, what do you want from me?
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I give you my body.
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What do you want from me?
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Um. and i think sometimes with god, you know--
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Yeah, that might have been a little much.
00:36:47.295 --> 00:36:49.063
You know, i might
00:36:49.063 --> 00:36:49.997
Have overplayed that one a little bit.
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But anyway-- this is tbn.
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Oh, yeah. oh, i forgot.
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But i think in our relationship with god, sometimes it's like,
00:36:57.204 --> 00:36:59.373
What do you want from me?
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Like, i don't know what you want from me.
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I'm doing my best here to serve you.
00:37:01.242 --> 00:37:03.244
Do you know what god wants?
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And it's discovered in david's life.
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So david kills a man to take his wife, and then he writes
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This poem.
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Psalms 51, i believe it is.
00:37:13.788 --> 00:37:15.423
And in that poem, he gives us a little glimpse into what
00:37:15.423 --> 00:37:18.959
God actually wants.
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By the way, we see this in the thief on the cross as well
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Of what god wants.
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David says, i'm a nightmare.
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I did it again. by the way,
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700 wives wasn't enough for david.
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He had to have bathsheba, right?
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That was solomon. solomon had 700.
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David didn't have a few hundred?
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A handful.
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Yeah, a handful.
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Let's call it a pile, a pile.
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Okay. yeah.
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I always thought david had 700. no.
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It's actually good to be corrected.
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But nonetheless, he had a lot of drama and trauma.
00:37:44.485 --> 00:37:47.655
So, david, um, he writes this poem, right?
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Psalm 51. and in the poem he says this,
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He says a broken and a contrite spirit.
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Hmm. you can't deny it.
00:37:56.464 --> 00:37:59.200
It's irresistible to you. wow.
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And if you look at it and then compare it to the thief on the
00:38:01.135 --> 00:38:03.838
Cross, um, you know what god wants more than anything?
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Do you know what he wants from us?
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Brokenness which is another
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Way of saying what god wants is you.
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But you know what you are? fundamentally,
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Categorically, definitively broken.
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It's literally we are born broken,
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The scripture says.
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Born in sin, david said.
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So when we come to god and say, i'm broken--
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This is all you get.
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Now i get you.
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And that's what i wanted all along.
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So i say that to say, i think the future of the church, i
00:38:31.165 --> 00:38:35.870
Think the future of the way, the future of jesus followers is
00:38:35.870 --> 00:38:39.740
Going to be a profound, uh, there's going to be a
00:38:39.740 --> 00:38:44.178
Demonstration of brokenness like we've never seen before.
00:38:44.178 --> 00:38:47.615
I don't mean acting with piety and humility or acting humble.
00:38:47.615 --> 00:38:51.485
I mean just truly being aware of your humanness and saying, i
00:38:51.485 --> 00:38:55.456
Think the platform is going to get lower.
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Maybe not physically, but you
00:38:57.191 --> 00:38:58.192
Know what i mean, metaphorically.
00:38:58.192 --> 00:38:59.427
And i think the preachers are going to get more honest.
00:38:59.427 --> 00:39:01.395
I think the churches are going to get more candid.
00:39:01.395 --> 00:39:03.497
Maybe our meetings are going to look a little bit more like aa,
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And we're all just going to come in and say, listen,
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Without god, i'm an, i'm an addict, without god, i'm broken
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And i'm a nightmare.
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And i think in that place there is such a beauty
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.342
And i promise i'm done,
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But the thief on the cross,
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Remember, there's one thief that repeatedly curses jesus.
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Why? if you're god, why won't you do this?
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And by the way, sometimes we're in so much pain.
00:39:23.350 --> 00:39:24.952
We wonder where god is.
00:39:24.952 --> 00:39:26.153
We're like, dude, if you're god, you can fix the pain.
00:39:26.153 --> 00:39:27.788
But the other criminal, the bible says, the other criminal
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Says, hey, hey, we haven't done anything wrong.
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This man's done nothing wrong.
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Which is a wild revelation to have when the man right next to
00:39:35.062 --> 00:39:37.631
You you say is god, and he's dying of the same cursed
00:39:37.631 --> 00:39:41.035
Execution you are.
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And he says, your god.
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And he says, um, lord jesus,
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Remember me when you come into paradise.
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And the words of jesus tell you everything.
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Listen how pleased he is.
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He says, he says, oh, my dear son, today you'll be with me in
00:39:51.645 --> 00:39:55.549
Paradise, which is, you feel
00:39:55.549 --> 00:39:57.384
The pleasure of god even in the tone.
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This is what i wanted.
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There's no performance there.
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It's not even possible and necessary, right?
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That's why it's a theological conundrum.
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I think what god doesn't want
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Is our performance, even our occupation.
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He blesses that and he loves that.
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It's wonderful.
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And he thinks we're all adorable and cute, and he loves
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Our careers, and he thinks
00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:14.168
They're sweet and awesome and wonderful.
00:40:14.168 --> 00:40:15.569
But what he really wants is us in that broken state of saying,
00:40:15.569 --> 00:40:19.406
Here's where i'm at.
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And i, i think in a lot of ways that's a sneaky little thing
00:40:20.674 --> 00:40:25.045
I'm trying to communicate is i'm trying to say, hey, like
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Preachers traditionally, and
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I'm guilty of it more than anyone.
00:40:31.418 --> 00:40:33.153
We project ourselves as pretty developed packages.
00:40:33.153 --> 00:40:36.790
We are pretty refined humans, when in reality we've been
00:40:36.790 --> 00:40:41.962
Around this long enough to know we're just as average and
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Normal as anybody else.
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I mean, we love jesus, we really do.
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But, um, man, i got a lot of
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Work to do and i got a lot of brokenness.
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So if this just compels someone
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To just get more, this is who i am,
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Um, then so be it, i hope so.
00:40:57.177 --> 00:41:00.247
I love that.
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You just described
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Something super important, and it made me think of something
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Joseph prince said.
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I love it.
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Because you you just said, look, we all have the same
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Issues that those that are watching us sitting on their
00:41:17.565 --> 00:41:21.835
Couches right now have.
00:41:21.835 --> 00:41:23.904
They just think we're immune to it for some reason, because
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There's a stage and a this and
00:41:26.674 --> 00:41:28.509
There's a a weird thing about that.
00:41:28.509 --> 00:41:30.311
That's all i think what you're saying is going to be broken
00:41:30.311 --> 00:41:33.213
Down some, and
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Let's make church a little bit more like an aa meeting.
00:41:34.815 --> 00:41:37.384
We're all in a circle and it's all about that.
00:41:37.384 --> 00:41:40.154
And even when you said, but we love jesus and there could be
00:41:40.154 --> 00:41:43.757
Somebody sitting there going, but i don't feel that
00:41:43.757 --> 00:41:46.560
Even so, i'm different.
00:41:46.560 --> 00:41:47.861
And it made me think of something joseph prince said.
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He said, god, give me a actual feeling of love for you.
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Yes.
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And the lord said to him very clearly and plainly,
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The way you love me
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Is to dwell on how much i love you.
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That's it.
00:42:05.913 --> 00:42:07.381
I appreciate you catching that, because it was kind of a
00:42:07.381 --> 00:42:09.550
Passing statement that i think can really do damage without us
00:42:09.550 --> 00:42:12.653
Not cognizantly addressing it, say, because i agree, you could
00:42:12.653 --> 00:42:16.190
Be watching this and you're like, oh, i don't feel
00:42:16.190 --> 00:42:17.825
Like i love jesus.
00:42:17.825 --> 00:42:19.093
And the truth is, i so often don't feel like i love jesus.
00:42:19.093 --> 00:42:22.096
But the way that i recover passion is to dwell, rehearse,
00:42:22.096 --> 00:42:26.900
Review and remember sometimes with friends like this.
00:42:26.900 --> 00:42:30.204
Yes. oh, how he loves me.
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I mean his eye is on the sparrow.
00:42:32.306 --> 00:42:34.308
His eyes on me.
00:42:34.308 --> 00:42:35.409
Like and that was a little bit of what i was doing
00:42:35.409 --> 00:42:36.944
This morning on my way to the airport.
00:42:36.944 --> 00:42:38.145
It's like, god, you just love me.
00:42:38.145 --> 00:42:40.080
Like you really love me.
00:42:40.080 --> 00:42:41.515
Thank you. that's so fun.
00:42:41.515 --> 00:42:43.384
Like, this is amazing.
00:42:43.384 --> 00:42:47.021
You carry the weight of that
00:42:47.021 --> 00:42:50.591
Generational mandate on your life.
00:42:50.591 --> 00:42:53.160
It's there, judah.
00:42:53.160 --> 00:42:54.662
Everything you're saying has this underpinning
00:42:54.662 --> 00:42:58.699
Weightiness to it.
00:42:58.699 --> 00:43:00.334
You can be, you know, you can
00:43:00.334 --> 00:43:02.169
Look like justin bieber and you can--
00:43:02.169 --> 00:43:04.271
I hope so.
00:43:04.271 --> 00:43:05.639
You can be, you can have great genes and you can have
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:08.175
The whole thing and all of that,
00:43:08.175 --> 00:43:14.882
But there's a weightiness to what you, what you say
00:43:14.882 --> 00:43:18.919
And what you are.
00:43:18.919 --> 00:43:20.754
And, and there's somebody that understands that.
00:43:20.754 --> 00:43:24.191
They don't even know why.
00:43:24.191 --> 00:43:26.560
Like you as a kid looking at a pink haired lady and somehow
00:43:26.560 --> 00:43:30.397
Understanding she cared about people and she loved people.
00:43:30.397 --> 00:43:34.368
Look into the camera and just, um, invite someone to join into
00:43:34.368 --> 00:43:39.907
What that means to be a follower of the way.
00:43:39.907 --> 00:43:43.043
Yeah. um,
00:43:43.043 --> 00:43:45.779
You know, so much of life can just be exhausting and tiresome
00:43:45.779 --> 00:43:51.685
And also a little bit confusing, right?
00:43:51.685 --> 00:43:53.587
And you start to wonder, what is it all for?
00:43:53.587 --> 00:43:55.489
And what is it all about?
00:43:55.489 --> 00:43:57.057
Um, ultimately, you were created and designed, um, as an
00:43:57.057 --> 00:44:02.329
Object of love. to be loved.
00:44:02.329 --> 00:44:05.099
And when you kind of absorb and let god love you,
00:44:05.099 --> 00:44:11.605
Everything won't make sense.
00:44:11.605 --> 00:44:13.373
But the big stuff will, like it just will.
00:44:13.373 --> 00:44:16.176
Suddenly you'll be like, okay,
00:44:16.176 --> 00:44:18.045
I can at least make it another day.
00:44:18.045 --> 00:44:20.380
And all i can say to you is that if god loves me, that the
00:44:20.380 --> 00:44:23.984
Nightmare that i am, he loves you.
00:44:23.984 --> 00:44:25.986
Um, so there's the most famous scripture, like in all of the
00:44:25.986 --> 00:44:29.823
Sacred scripture, john 3:16, it says, god doesn't just love the
00:44:29.823 --> 00:44:35.829
World, he so loves it so much that he he gave himself, uh, so
00:44:35.829 --> 00:44:41.735
That nobody will ever live without him, but they'll live
00:44:41.735 --> 00:44:44.772
With him forever.
00:44:44.772 --> 00:44:46.473
Um, i love the old saying.
00:44:46.473 --> 00:44:48.842
I saw it in the movie again.
00:44:48.842 --> 00:44:50.577
Uh, the count of monte cristo.
00:44:50.577 --> 00:44:52.780
The count says to the priest, i don't
00:44:52.780 --> 00:44:56.550
Believe in god.
00:44:56.550 --> 00:44:57.684
And he says with his dying breath, it's okay.
00:44:57.684 --> 00:44:59.753
God believes in you.
00:44:59.753 --> 00:45:01.088
And i really want you to know that.
00:45:01.088 --> 00:45:02.422
I know it sounds cliché, but god, like, really believes
00:45:02.422 --> 00:45:05.159
In you, man. like he loves you.
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:07.161
He named you.
00:45:07.161 --> 00:45:08.262
He designed you, he put you together.
00:45:08.262 --> 00:45:10.164
And he has an extraordinary plan for your life.
00:45:10.164 --> 00:45:12.533
And i don't even mean career as much as i mean a lifelong
00:45:12.533 --> 00:45:16.003
Romance of experiencing him and seeing his beauty and his
00:45:16.003 --> 00:45:19.239
Majesty in your life.
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:20.641
Wherever you are, whatever you're going through,
00:45:20.641 --> 00:45:22.876
I know this for a fact.
00:45:22.876 --> 00:45:24.278
I can say it undoubtedly, unequivocally,
00:45:24.278 --> 00:45:26.647
You are loved. you are so loved.
00:45:26.647 --> 00:45:30.551
And if you are watching this,
00:45:30.551 --> 00:45:32.186
There's got to be a reason, man.
00:45:32.186 --> 00:45:33.887
There's got to be a reason.
00:45:33.887 --> 00:45:35.255
I got all this makeup on for a reason, bro.
00:45:35.255 --> 00:45:37.691
Like, there's got to be a reason that you're watching
00:45:37.691 --> 00:45:40.661
This right now.
00:45:40.661 --> 00:45:41.361
Because god wants to send a
00:45:41.361 --> 00:45:42.763
Message to you that you are loved.
00:45:42.763 --> 00:45:44.631
And you know how you become a follower of jesus?
00:45:44.631 --> 00:45:48.101
You just accept that love.
00:45:48.101 --> 00:45:50.003
You just accept it and you say it's real.
00:45:50.003 --> 00:45:52.840
And you say, okay, lead the rest of my life.
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:55.943
And you are forgiven forever.
00:45:55.943 --> 00:45:57.744
Um, i think it's a i think it's a special moment.
00:45:57.744 --> 00:46:00.948
And i hope that, uh, if you get the chance, you let us know how
00:46:00.948 --> 00:46:04.518
We can help you.
00:46:04.518 --> 00:46:05.819
This is a time where, like, in our community, we're like, go
00:46:05.819 --> 00:46:08.088
To pastor chat.
00:46:08.088 --> 00:46:09.022
We got people there to chat with you.
00:46:09.022 --> 00:46:10.624
I know here at tbn, we've got people who would love to pray
00:46:10.624 --> 00:46:12.960
With you and talk with you, but, um, any way that we can
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:16.163
Help you, uh, please let us know.
00:46:16.163 --> 00:46:18.265
But don't forget your loved.
00:46:18.265 --> 00:46:20.000
Think about yourself as a young
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.236
Boy watching this exact same show.
00:46:22.236 --> 00:46:26.173
Undoubtedly, at some point, paul or jan or their guest
00:46:26.173 --> 00:46:29.977
Would have led people to jesus. think of it.
00:46:29.977 --> 00:46:31.745
We're doing what they were doing 53 years ago.
00:46:31.745 --> 00:46:33.981
We're doing the same thing. thank you.
00:46:33.981 --> 00:46:38.752
That means a lot. and guess what?
00:46:38.752 --> 00:46:40.554
Since 1975, in this room. colonel sanders sat in
00:46:40.554 --> 00:46:46.393
This room and gave his testimony.
00:46:46.393 --> 00:46:48.495
You know, i mean, just goes on
00:46:48.495 --> 00:46:50.197
And on and on and on in this room.
00:46:50.197 --> 00:46:53.033
And now you're coming down.
00:46:53.033 --> 00:46:55.669
You're using it.
00:46:55.669 --> 00:46:56.670
You've broken out.
00:46:56.670 --> 00:46:58.138
You've gone into, you know, almost following that creative
00:46:58.138 --> 00:47:03.343
Gene that your dad left in you to just do things different,
00:47:03.343 --> 00:47:07.948
Get the message out in a different way, use any
00:47:07.948 --> 00:47:10.884
Technology, every technology.
00:47:10.884 --> 00:47:12.686
Just do it your way.
00:47:12.686 --> 00:47:13.854
Do your thing, man.
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Because no matter what you dress like.
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No matter what.
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You do, however loud. you know, you're kind of loud.
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You know, you talk loud.
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That's weird. so are you.
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I am like, down here and
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You're like--
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Your decibel level is like way up here and--
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Kettle calling-- what is it.
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The frying pan. yeah.
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So ultimately, final thoughts.
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Uh, wrap this up.
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There's a lot of legacy heritage kind of things
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Flowing through my mind.
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We just, it's just a really great stuff.
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But wrap it up.
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Give me the final thoughts on, uh, on this.
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If you're like me, you grow up,
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I watched so many preachers and i watched so much programs like
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This, and those individuals felt a million miles away.
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They just felt like bro,
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I mean, can you imagine?
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Um. you're watching this.
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Wow, man. so much emotion.
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But, um,
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You know, like, if i looked at you two, it's like when
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You walked in the studio today,
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I was like, wow, you guys look good.
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I mean, you really do.
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Like, you look fit and beautiful and beautiful.
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Thank you. beautiful. beautiful.
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Yeah, yeah. yeah, yeah.
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You know, apply appropriately.
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Um, and i think people look at you and they go, you know,
00:48:32.899 --> 00:48:36.670
Gosh, you know, i could never be matt and laurie.
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I could never, you know-- just your exercise routine was
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Intimidating that you shared today, you know?
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But and i think sometimes they hear us as we talk and
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People think, i want, i want to be that, you know, like
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Like, i want to love god.
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Like i want to make my marriage work.
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I want to like, do those things.
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But it's hard, you know?
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And so, um,
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Yeah, i just maybe it's because you just said all the people
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That were here for a lot of years because i feel
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.568
That stuff, you know? but, um,
00:49:08.568 --> 00:49:12.472
A friend of mine was, uh, helping a homeless community
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Last week, and he's the drug addict in my high school, and
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We're now best friends now.
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He met jesus when i was in high school.
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He was wild, bro.
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He was dealing heavy drugs.
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And he said last week he was
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Helping people, um, on skid row.
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And he said to he said to the guy working, he said, man.
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He said, you know, i know we're telling these people about
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Jesus, but there's like 14 things we got to give them, not
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Just jesus, but we got to give them food.
00:49:39.099 --> 00:49:40.434
We gotta give them shelter. we got to get-- man.
00:49:40.434 --> 00:49:41.868
Come on, bro, like we can't just tell them they need jesus.
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They need more than that.
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And the guy got quiet and he said, um,
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He said they need hope, you know.
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And i think, um, life gets real hard when you don't have hope.
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And i think part of my emotion is that, uh, people who do what
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I do, um,
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We don't mean to,
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But, uh, we project such a completed process that it
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Doesn't give people hope.
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It makes them feel like,
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Man, i don't think i could ever do that.
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Wow.
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And i think the future of incredible networks like this
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And preachers is that our scars and our brokenness and our
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.850
Journey really breeds hope in people who feel like they're a
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Million miles away from god and his approval and his love and
00:50:34.221 --> 00:50:37.224
His acceptance, when in fact they're not.
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So, i mean, more than anything, man, like anything we do,
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Anything going forward,
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Like, i just wanted to reek of hope that somebody can go,
00:50:43.396 --> 00:50:47.200
Whoa, bro.
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Like, if god can help that guy, like i know he can help me.
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And, um, i think, i think that's the revolution, you know?
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I think that's the future.
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I think that's what people are looking for.
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And i think it's happening in some of our media.
00:51:01.448 --> 00:51:03.984
I think it's happening in some
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Of our personalities and our athletes.
00:51:04.918 --> 00:51:06.820
I think we're becoming approachable and knowable
00:51:06.820 --> 00:51:09.556
And, uh, i'm excited. i'm excited about the future.
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And i hope this book plays, uh, plays a small part in that.
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Um, i love you being so we honest about this.
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We are behind that.
00:51:20.534 --> 00:51:24.571
We're behind that level of emotion to help people
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And give them hope.
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This can be a great starting point.
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And i mean, whether you need to keep the good thoughts, you
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Need to keep those faith thoughts and pursue them
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And stay on them.
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You know, god gives you that unbelievable desire in your
00:51:43.657 --> 00:51:48.228
Heart so that when you go through the hard things, you
00:51:48.228 --> 00:51:51.865
Keep remembering what he showed
00:51:51.865 --> 00:51:53.600
You in the original, the vision.
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And just stay steady.
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And man, you know, you broke down the craziest unspoken
00:51:58.171 --> 00:52:05.178
Logic thing when you said, if you have enough faith, you
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Don't brush your teeth? of course you brush your teeth.
00:52:07.814 --> 00:52:09.916
I put on deodorant this morning.
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I showered. and, uh, uh, i love who you are, judah.
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That seven generations of weightiness is in you, and
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We're behind you with everything we got.
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We love you. get the book.
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We'll see you next time. bye bye.
00:52:24.531 --> 00:52:24.531

Judah Smith: Transforming Your Mindset | Praise

September 16, 2025 | 54:17

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