Matt and Laurie Crouch sit down with Kyle Idleman to discuss his new book, Every Thought Captive. They explore how our thoughts shape our faith and daily lives. Kyle shares practical insights on capturing and renewing the mind through Scripture.
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Praise | Kyle Idleman: Every Thought Captive | Praise | June 10, 2025
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- Here's the thought that was holding me captive.
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- I can't ask for help.
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- It's anti gospel to say i don't need help, and i need to change
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- That thought.
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- Part of taking a thought captive, you don't just say,
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- I'm not gonna think that anymore.
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- Mhmm. to use captive language, you interrogate it.
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- As we align our thoughts with what god teaches, then the holy
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- Spirit brings about transformation that we can't we
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- Can't bring on our own.
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- Healing comes through confession.
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- Confessing fears, confessing anxieties, confessing doubts
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- And uncertainty.
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- I believe god's grace is always sufficient.
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- It's always just enough.
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- That means i'm not going to deal with anything today that
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- Is more than his grace can handle.
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- When you're going through something that you think i
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- Can't do it, it's just too much,
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- Truth gives you something to hold on to.
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- Tonight on praise from dallas, best selling author and
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- Teaching pastor of southeast christian church, kyle idleman.
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- And now your host, matt and laurie crouch.
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- Brother kyle idleman, you're gonna have to start helping us
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- Explain this
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- Amazing kind of new trend, okay, that we're finding, that
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- The church is catching up with something that's needed to be
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- Talked about for many, many years, maybe decades, maybe
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- Centuries, right?
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- The christian church says, hey, if you're dealing with issues
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- In your mind, you're just not praying hard enough.
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- You're just not, it's all your fault.
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- You're just not doing something right.
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- But this idea of mental health, this idea that every thought
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- Being held captive, you know, all of this is trending now.
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- Thank you for picking up every
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- Thought captive and writing down,
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- Calm the middle chaos that keeps you stuck, drains your
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- Hope, holds you back.
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- Kyle, where do you wanna start this?
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- Because this, you know, this whole season we're kinda
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- Talking about this and dealing with this subject.
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- Where do you wanna-- how do you
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- Wanna frame this?
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- We've typically kinda used scripture in a way that could
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- Feel dismissive to people who are really struggling.
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- Right.
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- And so we'll quote scriptures that are truths.
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- Scriptures like, you know, don't be anxious about
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- Anything, but in everything through prayer and petition,
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- Make your request known to god and the peace of god, which
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- Transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and
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- Minds in christ jesus, philippians 4.
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- And then done.
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- That doesn't solve your problems?
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- Yeah. like, i thought that would do it.
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- And counseling session over.
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- I quoted a scripture to you.
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- I quoted you scripture.
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- And if you want, you can make a magnet out of it, put it on
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- Your fridge, and
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- You know, problem solved.
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- And what has, what happened then is that people who were
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- Struggling with not being joyful always felt like the
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- Church wasn't necessarily a safe place
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- To be honest about their struggles.
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- Right. so they would pull away, deal with it behind closed
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- Doors, and then it would only grow because what's not in the
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- Light will grow in the dark,
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- And then it would become more overwhelming.
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- And so what i think has happened, what i talk about
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- Quite a bit in the book, is that we're learning more about
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- Neuroscience, and we're recognizing that neuroscience
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- Validates these scriptures in a way that invites a journey.
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- It invites a deeper conversation.
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- So we're not just saying, hey, don't feel that way or don't
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- Think those things.
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- We're recognizing that the same god who made our brains, the
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- Same god who gave us science, gave us scripture.
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- And so then as a church, when we put those things together,
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- It gives a more holistic approach.
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- It helps people recognize, okay, i'm still gonna let
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- Scripture be my foundation, but i'm gonna see that this is how
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- He's the one who made my brain, and here's how, here's how
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- God made me.
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- It works, and here's how scripture supports it.
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- Mhmm. yeah.
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- I love the-- i love the scripture that you use, though.
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- Taking every thought captive.
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- Don't be conformed, but be transformed
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- By the renewing of your mind.
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- That means we have to do something.
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- Yes.
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- We have to be disciplined in in capturing those thoughts.
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- You have to be,
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- Very proactive, right?
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- Yeah. about doing it for yourself as well.
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- Yeah, the language there in romans 12:2, where it
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- Says, don't be conformed to the patterns of this world, to the
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- Thinking of our culture, but be transformed by the renewing of
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- That be transformed, it's something that is done.
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- Your mind.
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- It's a supernatural
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- Transforming that takes place, but we have a role in that.
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- And our role is to take our thoughts captive, to make sure
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- That our thinking is aligned with what scripture teaches.
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- So we're not passive about it.
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- We're not just saying, god, i'm i'm gonna think about whatever
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- I wanna think about.
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- I'm gonna give my mind to whatever i feel like giving my
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- Mind to, and you're just gonna transform me.
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- No, that's not how it works.
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- Instead, we take our thoughts captive, and as we align our
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- Thoughts with what god teaches, then the holy spirit brings
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- About transformation that we
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- Can't, we can't bring on our own.
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- And so it's this, it's this partnership.
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- It's not, it's not humanistic
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- Saying, hey, can fix my own problems.
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- I just need, you know, positive affirmations and this self help
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- My way into mental health.
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- But it is recognizing i have a responsibility to align my
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- Thinking with what scripture teaches, and then when i do
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- That, the holy spirit brings transformation.
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- You know, one of the things that is really difficult for us
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- Culturally is just creating
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- Space to take our thoughts captive.
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- You know, some of the time and space that we used to have
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- Where we would, you know, think about our thoughts, we would
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- Pay attention to our internal processing, like those things,
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- That time has often now given way to just screens.
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- Like if you just do the science on this and you study it, like
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- Things like laying awake in bed
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- At night, we don't do that much anymore.
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- If i can't sleep, i'll just scroll on my phone.
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- I'll binge watch netflix until i get tired.
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- Even in the shower, people will bring their screens.
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- I read this article.
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- Oh, come on.
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- I read this article called rise of the toilet texture, and
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- It said that, like, seventy percent of people won't
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- Go to the bathroom without their phones with them.
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- Like, if they're gonna go into the restroom, they're
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- Gonna i'm not gonna go in there and not have anything to do.
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- So they'll bring their phones
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- Phones with them into the restroom.
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- And my point is, we have just such little margin to think
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- About our thoughts, to really be intentional.
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- And if you look at your screen time on your phone, you're
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- Like, oh,
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- Okay. it's the pace of life issue.
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- Pace of life, yeah.
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- And if we go back, what i love about what you've done in this,
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- Kyle, every thought captive, is you're right.
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- A lot of times we will throw a scripture at something and say,
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- You know, okay, session over.
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- You know, as a man thinks, so is he.
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- And what you're talking about are some really practical ways
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- To do that, which is what i love and i wanna get into.
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- But if you wind the clock back,
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- One of the-- let me kinda ask you a tough kinda weird question.
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- We're friends, right?
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- Yeah. and we respect you a lot.
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- We even dressed like your book.
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- So i think that that proves that we were excited about it.
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- Tried.
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- You match it perfectly, babe, by the way.
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- Good job.
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- Thanks. and you don't.
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- No. yeah.
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- You were much more intentional than me.
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- So if you go back, the old pentecostal world that i would
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- Have grown grown up in would
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- Have said, don't worry about your
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- Kind of inner person because
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- The lord's coming back so quickly--
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- Okay. it's not gonna matter.
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- All you need to do is work harder, get more people saved,
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- And then, you know, that would have been what my dad would
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- Have been hearing, you know, in 1948 when he
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- Was a teenager, and here we are, we're still here, okay?
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- So we were supposed to be gone
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- In 1988, remember?
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- And so mental health issues, or these types of very deep kind
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- Of interpersonal matters, are only coming to the forefront in
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- A crisis situation because
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- They've been ignored for generations.
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- So that's what i would have said, that my mom and dad's
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- Generation would have said, you know, go into your prayer
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- Closet and come out better.
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- Sweep it under the rug.
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- Or sweep it under the rug and just don't worry about it.
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- Push it deep down and don't bring it up again.
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- And because there's just so
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- Much work to do to get people saved.
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- So we're in a time where we,
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- Our grandparents maybe, our looking down sometimes their
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- Spiritual noses at people that are dealing with these types of
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- Matters because they grew up in a quieter time, a slower pace,
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- And life is going, you know,
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- Warp speed, comparatively speaking.
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- So it's time to really get into this.
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- Yeah. and thank you for bringing it up and get into
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- Some of the practical things that you were dealing with
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- In this that--
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- Yeah, let me just speak to that on a personal level.
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- Like, as i studied this book, one of the exercises i did was
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- To really try to pay attention to some thoughts that i had
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- Shaping me and shaping my relationships that i wasn't
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- Even aware of.
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- And here's the thought that was holding me captive, that had
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- Done a lot of damage in my life and had caused problems in my
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- Relationships and was creating challenges for me as a pastor.
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- Here's the thought.
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- I can't ask for help.
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- Wow. i don't know exactly where i picked up on that, but
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- Part of taking a thought captive is you you don't just
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- Say, i'm not gonna think that anymore.
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- To use captive language, you interrogate it.
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- You hold it down and you ask some questions of that thought.
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- Where did it come from?
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- Who taught me to think that way?
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- What's that led to?
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- Who do i know from my childhood
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- That might have thought that way?
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- And i grew up in a home where both of my parents set
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- Beautiful examples of being helpers.
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- They were helpers.
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- And somewhere along the line, i picked up on this idea that
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- Spiritual maturity means being
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- A helper but not needing to be helped.
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- Oh. and those are two very, those two things do not need to
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- Go together.
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- But that thought had had held me captive.
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- So in early years of marriage, like we're coming up on thirty
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- Years of the summer, but in the first few years of marriage,
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- I had this idea that i can't ask for help.
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- And my wife, as a young wife,
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- Was like, hey, we need some help.
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- Need to figure out some things, and we're not figuring out the
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- Two of us.
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- And i in my mind, we can't do that.
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- We can't. i'm a helper.
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- Yeah. i'm somebody who who rescues.
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- I don't need to be rescued.
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- And then when we had our kids and we had one child in
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- Particular, if you have four, you're gonna at least have one
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- That has, you know, who you're like, i don't know what to do.
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- Nothing's working.
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- And we had some of those challenges and she's like,
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- Well, we're surrounded by people who would help us if we--
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- If we'll just humble ourselves and say, we need help.
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- And i didn't feel like we could do that.
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- Now that, so that thought, because i wasn't taking that
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- Thought captive, that thought was not just taking me captive.
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- It was taking my marriage captive.
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- It was taking my child and then even as a pastor, recognizing
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- That it's okay to say, i need help.
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- And so recognizing, okay, there's this thought pattern
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- That's not biblical.
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- In fact, it's anti gospel to say, i don't need help.
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- And i need to change that thought.
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- And to but to for me to be set free from that, for me to
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- As ii corinthians talks about, to tear down that
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- Stronghold in my life, i needed to recognize where that
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- Thought came from and and needed to be intentional to
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- Replace it.
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- The neuroscience term for this is cognitive reappraisal, where
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- You don't just say i'm gonna stop thinking something,
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- But you identify it and then when you have that thought, you
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- Replace it with something that is what that is true and right
- 00:13:24.922 --> 00:13:28.292
- As a way to start creating a new neural pathway.
- 00:13:28.292 --> 00:13:31.729
- So for me, that was a thought that i would not like, i didn't
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- Even know i was thinking it.
- 00:13:36.934 --> 00:13:38.702
- And so a few things, like to identify thoughts that need to
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- Be held captive.
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- One is paying attention to things that you were taught
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- Early and often.
- 00:13:45.643 --> 00:13:47.211
- Oftentimes those were not explicitly taught.
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- They were just implicitly picked up on.
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- So we think maybe like a mom or a dad, or we handle anger like
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- Mom or dad, or we handle offense, when someone offends
- 00:13:57.554 --> 00:14:00.057
- Me, i approach that personally, maybe like mom or dad.
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- And so you recognize early and often.
- 00:14:03.327 --> 00:14:05.496
- The other thing is emotional association.
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- When, well, i've got, i have a friend whose father passed away
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- When he was in fifth grade.
- 00:14:13.103 --> 00:14:15.372
- And when his dad died, he had this thought that nobody
- 00:14:15.372 --> 00:14:20.511
- Really knows how i feel.
- 00:14:20.511 --> 00:14:22.279
- Oh boy.
- 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:22.947
- This is a fifth grade boy.
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- And that thought, because it was connected to such a strong
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- Emotion, and that thought just took hold of his life.
- 00:14:27.484 --> 00:14:31.255
- And now he's in his fifties, and he recognizes it.
- 00:14:31.255 --> 00:14:34.291
- Like, i've kept people at a distance because i had this
- 00:14:34.291 --> 00:14:38.128
- Thought that i didn't even know i had that nobody, nobody
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- Understands what what it's like for me.
- 00:14:42.299 --> 00:14:44.668
- Yeah. but because that thought was so closely connected to
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- This emotional moment, it had extra power in his life.
- 00:14:47.771 --> 00:14:52.843
- And then another thing is just like repeated exposure.
- 00:14:52.843 --> 00:14:56.380
- Like when we, when we are constantly exposing our mind to
- 00:14:56.380 --> 00:15:01.085
- To certain ideas and thoughts, it creates strongholds.
- 00:15:01.085 --> 00:15:04.321
- It'll create a pattern of thinking.
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- Even if you don't want it to.
- 00:15:06.090 --> 00:15:07.624
- I talk in the book about the the law of exposure that
- 00:15:07.624 --> 00:15:12.463
- This idea that what we give our eyes to and our ears
- 00:15:12.463 --> 00:15:17.101
- To, it just shapes us whether we want it to or not.
- 00:15:17.101 --> 00:15:20.704
- Like you can say, oh, doesn't affect me.
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- That doesn't make a difference for me.
- 00:15:22.539 --> 00:15:24.641
- But it does.
- 00:15:24.641 --> 00:15:25.876
- As an example, one of the studies that i cite in the book
- 00:15:25.876 --> 00:15:29.646
- Talks about how what you do first thing in the morning
- 00:15:29.646 --> 00:15:33.650
- Primes your mind for the rest of the day.
- 00:15:33.650 --> 00:15:36.387
- Wow. so if you first thing in the morning is that if you get
- 00:15:36.387 --> 00:15:39.390
- On your phone and you check the news and you see what bad
- 00:15:39.390 --> 00:15:43.027
- Things have happened around the world, like it's okay to do
- 00:15:43.027 --> 00:15:45.662
- That during the day.
- 00:15:45.662 --> 00:15:46.897
- But when you do that first thing in the morning, it primes
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- Your mind for anxiety.
- 00:15:48.832 --> 00:15:50.134
- It primes your mind to be reactive.
- 00:15:50.134 --> 00:15:52.269
- Wow. it sets your mindset up
- 00:15:52.269 --> 00:15:54.138
- For like this, a negative filter.
- 00:15:54.138 --> 00:15:56.407
- But if you start off in the morning and you give your mind
- 00:15:56.407 --> 00:16:00.377
- To scripture and you're intentional with some of your
- 00:16:00.377 --> 00:16:02.946
- Thoughts, it can change the trajectory of your day.
- 00:16:02.946 --> 00:16:06.850
- I have a chapter in the book called, when the morning.
- 00:16:06.850 --> 00:16:10.621
- And i just in there talk about how for believers, i can't
- 00:16:10.621 --> 00:16:16.727
- Scientifically prove this, but i believe that the first
- 00:16:16.727 --> 00:16:20.230
- Fifteen minutes of your day spiritually, if you can give
- 00:16:20.230 --> 00:16:24.168
- That time to god, that's more powerful than like an hour and
- 00:16:24.168 --> 00:16:27.104
- A half in the afternoon.
- 00:16:27.104 --> 00:16:28.705
- In scripture, there are all these examples of god saying,
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- In the morning, in the morning, in the morning.
- 00:16:32.109 --> 00:16:33.544
- Even jesus in mark chapter one, in the morning he went
- 00:16:33.544 --> 00:16:36.480
- And met with god.
- 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:37.714
- And i stumbled on to this research in science that shows
- 00:16:37.714 --> 00:16:40.551
- That in the morning, there are different parts of our brain
- 00:16:40.551 --> 00:16:43.387
- That are more active than later in the day.
- 00:16:43.387 --> 00:16:45.556
- And so scripture teaches us in the morning, in the morning, in
- 00:16:45.556 --> 00:16:48.358
- The morning, and then science now says, hey.
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- There's something to this in the morning thing.
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- If you'll be intentional with your thoughts first thing
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- In the day.
- 00:16:55.532 --> 00:16:56.467
- Are your thoughts holding you captive?
- 00:16:56.467 --> 00:16:58.502
- Do fear, anxiety, or shame try to take over your life?
- 00:16:58.502 --> 00:17:02.206
- You're not alone, and freedom belongs to you.
- 00:17:02.206 --> 00:17:05.709
- The same god who made our brains, the same god who gave
- 00:17:05.709 --> 00:17:09.580
- Us science, gave us scripture that helps people recognize,
- 00:17:09.580 --> 00:17:12.950
- Okay, i'm still gonna let scripture be my foundation, but
- 00:17:12.950 --> 00:17:16.720
- I'm gonna see that this is how god made me.
- 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.856
- He's the one who made my brain.
- 00:17:18.856 --> 00:17:20.357
- Here's how it works, and here's how scripture supports it.
- 00:17:20.357 --> 00:17:23.227
- In his powerful new book, every thought captive, kyle idleman
- 00:17:23.227 --> 00:17:27.464
- Reveals the spiritual and scientific truth.
- 00:17:27.464 --> 00:17:30.267
- You can renew your mind and transform your life.
- 00:17:30.267 --> 00:17:33.470
- As we align our thoughts with what god teaches, then the holy
- 00:17:33.470 --> 00:17:38.075
- Spirit brings about transformation that we can't
- 00:17:38.075 --> 00:17:40.811
- Bring on our own.
- 00:17:40.811 --> 00:17:42.813
- Learn how to break free from destructive patterns,
- 00:17:42.813 --> 00:17:46.083
- Rewire your brain with the truth of god's word and invite
- 00:17:46.083 --> 00:17:49.887
- God to bring healing to your life starting today.
- 00:17:49.887 --> 00:17:53.557
- Yep. gwfw.
- 00:17:56.393 --> 00:17:59.296
- That was rick warren's god's word, first word.
- 00:17:59.296 --> 00:18:02.766
- You know?
- 00:18:02.766 --> 00:18:03.233
- That's great.
- 00:18:03.233 --> 00:18:03.967
- And starting the day like that.
- 00:18:03.967 --> 00:18:06.703
- Go ahead, baby.
- 00:18:06.703 --> 00:18:07.971
- Well, love when god says, my mercies are new every morning,
- 00:18:07.971 --> 00:18:13.243
- We need to grab onto that.
- 00:18:13.243 --> 00:18:14.778
- People think that
- 00:18:14.778 --> 00:18:18.482
- What you meditate-- if you
- 00:18:18.482 --> 00:18:19.716
- Can worry, then you can meditate.
- 00:18:19.716 --> 00:18:21.518
- And the bible says to meditate on his word
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- Day and night.
- 00:18:24.721 --> 00:18:25.756
- You know, i went through a thing.
- 00:18:25.756 --> 00:18:27.090
- I don't talk about it much, but
- 00:18:27.090 --> 00:18:28.625
- Back in the late nineteen nineties,
- 00:18:28.625 --> 00:18:33.363
- I experienced something that i didn't have words for
- 00:18:33.363 --> 00:18:37.234
- At the time.
- 00:18:37.234 --> 00:18:38.068
- And i had this thing where-- and
- 00:18:38.068 --> 00:18:41.338
- Now, i believe it was anxiety.
- 00:18:41.338 --> 00:18:44.374
- Mhmm.
- 00:18:44.374 --> 00:18:45.876
- And i just started getting
- 00:18:45.876 --> 00:18:48.512
- Gripped with fear, like, instantly.
- 00:18:48.512 --> 00:18:51.882
- And it was like, woah.
- 00:18:51.882 --> 00:18:53.483
- What is that? you--
- 00:18:53.483 --> 00:18:54.318
- And then thoughts in my brain of--
- 00:18:54.318 --> 00:18:57.621
- Afraid of what though?
- 00:18:57.621 --> 00:18:58.722
- Well, i remember i heard a voice.
- 00:18:58.722 --> 00:19:02.226
- It's just my thoughts.
- 00:19:02.226 --> 00:19:04.962
- And it was like, you've never seen pain in your life.
- 00:19:04.962 --> 00:19:08.599
- I'm gonna show you pain like you've never seen-- i saw my
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- Kids harmed or
- 00:19:15.138 --> 00:19:15.906
- Harmed on the freeway.
- 00:19:15.906 --> 00:19:17.507
- I had visual things that i would sit up straight in bed at
- 00:19:17.507 --> 00:19:24.514
- Night and just go, jesus!
- 00:19:24.514 --> 00:19:26.149
- Yeah. and he did not understand that.
- 00:19:26.149 --> 00:19:29.319
- He didn't-- it was like, what's what's wrong with you?
- 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:31.788
- You know?
- 00:19:31.788 --> 00:19:33.090
- And i just remember, i was like going, i know the word of god.
- 00:19:33.090 --> 00:19:35.626
- I am a-- i know what god says about my mind.
- 00:19:35.626 --> 00:19:41.531
- I have the mind of christ.
- 00:19:41.531 --> 00:19:42.733
- And, you know, i'd quote scripture and and pray and just
- 00:19:42.733 --> 00:19:47.504
- But i didn't know what was wrong with me.
- 00:19:47.504 --> 00:19:49.373
- Mhmm.
- 00:19:49.373 --> 00:19:50.641
- And i remember finally getting with some friends one night,
- 00:19:50.641 --> 00:19:53.343
- And we were sitting around their pool, they were ministry
- 00:19:53.343 --> 00:19:55.445
- Friends, and i just said, i need help.
- 00:19:55.445 --> 00:19:58.015
- That's good.
- 00:19:58.015 --> 00:19:58.882
- And i said, i'm having these things.
- 00:19:58.882 --> 00:20:01.184
- I need him to listen to me, and you to help me, and tell him,
- 00:20:01.184 --> 00:20:05.922
- You know, help me with this.
- 00:20:05.922 --> 00:20:08.558
- And man, we prayed, and that was broken over my life.
- 00:20:08.558 --> 00:20:13.563
- But if you can worry about things, if you can lay there at
- 00:20:13.563 --> 00:20:16.733
- Night and think about things, you can change those thoughts.
- 00:20:16.733 --> 00:20:20.470
- And it's a matter of my will doing that.
- 00:20:20.470 --> 00:20:24.775
- And i'll actually look,
- 00:20:24.775 --> 00:20:28.545
- He who dwells in the secret place of the most high shall
- 00:20:28.545 --> 00:20:32.149
- Abide under the shadow of the almighty.
- 00:20:32.149 --> 00:20:34.151
- And i have memorized psalms 91.
- 00:20:34.151 --> 00:20:36.753
- And at night, sometimes, i will actually say, i have to see
- 00:20:36.753 --> 00:20:40.057
- Those words in my head.
- 00:20:40.057 --> 00:20:41.491
- Mhmm. and i'll say, he who dwells.
- 00:20:41.491 --> 00:20:44.795
- Yeah. and i see it written out.
- 00:20:44.795 --> 00:20:46.430
- And you know what?
- 00:20:46.430 --> 00:20:47.497
- I go to sleep.
- 00:20:47.497 --> 00:20:49.700
- That's how i fall right to sleep.
- 00:20:49.700 --> 00:20:51.968
- You know, it's crazy.
- 00:20:51.968 --> 00:20:53.437
- What you did, maybe out of a
- 00:20:53.437 --> 00:20:59.343
- A practice as a follower of jesus and sharing your burdens
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- With some friends, galatians--
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- Yeah.
- 00:21:04.047 --> 00:21:05.349
- Chapter six, you know, bear one another's burdens, what you did
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- Is one of the things that people have a hard time
- 00:21:07.751 --> 00:21:11.088
- Doing when they have thoughts
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- That they know are taking them captive.
- 00:21:13.023 --> 00:21:15.926
- They don't wanna share that with others.
- 00:21:15.926 --> 00:21:17.127
- But the bible talks about that
- 00:21:17.127 --> 00:21:18.829
- Healing comes through confession.
- 00:21:18.829 --> 00:21:20.497
- And what we tend to do is we identify confession.
- 00:21:20.497 --> 00:21:22.933
- Well, that's just sin.
- 00:21:22.933 --> 00:21:24.301
- This thought i'm having, it's not sinful.
- 00:21:24.301 --> 00:21:28.038
- I'm just struggling with this thought, but healing doesn't
- 00:21:28.038 --> 00:21:31.508
- Just come through confessing sin.
- 00:21:31.508 --> 00:21:33.110
- It comes through confessing
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- Fears, confessing anxieties, confessing
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- Doubts and uncertainty.
- 00:21:39.416 --> 00:21:40.917
- And so when you did that, when you humbled yourself, and you
- 00:21:40.917 --> 00:21:45.422
- Confessed to other people, like, hey, i am struggling with
- 00:21:45.422 --> 00:21:49.059
- This, that confession is inviting other people into that
- 00:21:49.059 --> 00:21:55.031
- Journey, which, you know, i believe is one of the most
- 00:21:55.031 --> 00:21:57.667
- Beautiful things the church can do for people when it comes to
- 00:21:57.667 --> 00:22:00.337
- Mental health, is give them a safe place to say, look, i know
- 00:22:00.337 --> 00:22:04.641
- This isn't true, or i know this isn't real.
- 00:22:04.641 --> 00:22:08.445
- I keep thinking these things.
- 00:22:08.445 --> 00:22:09.813
- I keep feeling this way.
- 00:22:09.813 --> 00:22:11.281
- And just the act of sharing it
- 00:22:11.281 --> 00:22:15.819
- Starts to break down that stronghold.
- 00:22:15.819 --> 00:22:17.487
- Your own personal story you just told about yourself where
- 00:22:17.487 --> 00:22:21.925
- You thought if you needed help that was wrong because you had
- 00:22:21.925 --> 00:22:27.731
- Been, you know, well that's exactly the way we would have
- 00:22:27.731 --> 00:22:30.834
- Been raised.
- 00:22:30.834 --> 00:22:31.735
- That if you're the pastor's daughter,
- 00:22:31.735 --> 00:22:34.471
- Like she-- you're example.
- 00:22:34.471 --> 00:22:36.206
- You've gotta be faith filled.
- 00:22:36.206 --> 00:22:37.774
- And i am faith filled and
- 00:22:37.774 --> 00:22:39.776
- When something hits you like that, you're going, but i'm not
- 00:22:39.776 --> 00:22:41.845
- Supposed to be like that.
- 00:22:41.845 --> 00:22:42.579
- I'm faith filled.
- 00:22:42.579 --> 00:22:43.847
- And i love to be this stable person in everybody's life, and
- 00:22:43.847 --> 00:22:47.050
- The one that will just encourage you in the lord.
- 00:22:47.050 --> 00:22:49.686
- And i was having to encourage myself in the lord.
- 00:22:49.686 --> 00:22:53.423
- One of the things that helped to me with this is the example of
- 00:22:53.423 --> 00:22:56.593
- Jesus before his arrest, where he says to his closest
- 00:22:56.593 --> 00:23:00.897
- Followers, think about this, he says to his closest friends,
- 00:23:00.897 --> 00:23:04.000
- People who are looking up to him, he, of course, he's their
- 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:07.370
- Spiritual example.
- 00:23:07.370 --> 00:23:08.505
- What's he say to them?
- 00:23:08.505 --> 00:23:09.673
- He says, my soul is overwhelmed to the point of death.
- 00:23:09.673 --> 00:23:13.276
- And you think about his willingness to share vulnerably
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- With people.
- 00:23:18.982 --> 00:23:19.716
- And then and then what's he do?
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- He says, pray for me.
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- Yeah.
- 00:23:21.518 --> 00:23:21.952
- Pray for me.
- 00:23:21.952 --> 00:23:22.652
- And if jesus, who's perfect,
- 00:23:22.652 --> 00:23:25.655
- Can say, hey, i'm my soul is overwhelmed,
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- Would you pray for me?
- 00:23:29.926 --> 00:23:31.394
- Wow.
- 00:23:31.394 --> 00:23:31.995
- Then i can do that too.
- 00:23:31.995 --> 00:23:33.497
- Yeah.
- 00:23:33.497 --> 00:23:34.664
- Right? and yet for us, and for many people, i think,
- 00:23:34.664 --> 00:23:37.300
- In christian culture, that can feel like spiritual weakness.
- 00:23:37.300 --> 00:23:40.570
- Yeah. it can feel like, well, i'm supposed to, i'm not
- 00:23:40.570 --> 00:23:43.640
- Supposed to have these thoughts or these feelings.
- 00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:45.509
- Yeah. the other thing that you talked about is that you've got
- 00:23:45.509 --> 00:23:48.945
- This scripture and you focused on it.
- 00:23:48.945 --> 00:23:53.049
- And it's so good that you identify this and then you
- 00:23:53.049 --> 00:23:57.787
- Replace it with the biblical truth.
- 00:23:57.787 --> 00:23:59.489
- Like, as i researched for this book, there's lots of, you
- 00:23:59.489 --> 00:24:03.093
- Know, psychology ideas out
- 00:24:03.093 --> 00:24:05.262
- There around personal affirmations.
- 00:24:05.262 --> 00:24:07.731
- Like, where i'm just i'm gonna, i'm gonna say these--
- 00:24:07.731 --> 00:24:10.433
- Visualize something.
- 00:24:10.433 --> 00:24:11.167
- Yeah. visualize something.
- 00:24:11.167 --> 00:24:12.335
- I'm just gonna say these
- 00:24:12.335 --> 00:24:13.303
- Positive things and look in the mirror.
- 00:24:13.303 --> 00:24:15.739
- That's not it.
- 00:24:15.739 --> 00:24:17.574
- Like, that's not to say you know, you you might stumble
- 00:24:16.339 --> 00:24:20.377
- Onto something there that really is true and is helpful.
- 00:24:20.377 --> 00:24:23.380
- Right? but god's word is where the supernatural power is and
- 00:24:23.380 --> 00:24:29.019
- So letting scripture be that affirmation.
- 00:24:29.019 --> 00:24:32.722
- And one of the chapters i talk about in the book is this
- 00:24:32.722 --> 00:24:35.292
- Chapter called say it out loud.
- 00:24:35.292 --> 00:24:37.193
- And i think this impacted me more than anything else, is
- 00:24:37.193 --> 00:24:41.498
- That there is power in speaking your thoughts out loud.
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- Life and death is in the power of the tongue.
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- It's in the power of the tongue.
- 00:24:48.538 --> 00:24:49.806
- And so that means that if i will take, like, in my brain,
- 00:24:49.806 --> 00:24:54.945
- If i think a thought, it activates certain parts of my
- 00:24:54.945 --> 00:24:57.948
- Brain, that thought has power.
- 00:24:57.948 --> 00:24:59.783
- But if i take that same thought and i just say it out loud, it
- 00:24:59.783 --> 00:25:03.520
- Activates a whole other part of your brain.
- 00:25:03.520 --> 00:25:05.622
- Like there's power.
- 00:25:05.622 --> 00:25:06.823
- And so then you're like, oh, well, no wonder in the old
- 00:25:06.823 --> 00:25:10.060
- Testament, god was always telling his people, pray, pray
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- Out loud, read my word, read my word out loud.
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- And throughout the day, they had times where they would,
- 00:25:17.167 --> 00:25:21.104
- They wouldn't just go and sit in a corner and quietly to
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- Themselves think things. they would speak it.
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- And there's power in speaking it out loud.
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- And so being able to identify it, as you did, some scriptures
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- To replace some thoughts, but then just practice, you know,
- 00:25:34.517 --> 00:25:38.088
- It sounds so simple.
- 00:25:38.088 --> 00:25:39.122
- I just would encourage people to try it.
- 00:25:39.122 --> 00:25:40.557
- Maybe in the car, maybe in the shower.
- 00:25:40.557 --> 00:25:42.125
- Yes. it it's just say it out loud.
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- Mhmm. speak it out loud.
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- There's power.
- 00:25:45.562 --> 00:25:46.796
- Something is happening when you take god's word and you
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- Speak it out loud.
- 00:25:49.399 --> 00:25:50.300
- I always read the bible out loud.
- 00:25:50.300 --> 00:25:53.136
- When i'm reading to myself, i'm always saying it out loud.
- 00:25:53.136 --> 00:25:56.306
- Mhmm. i remember,
- 00:25:56.306 --> 00:25:59.843
- Again, kind of going back in time a little bit to these, to
- 00:25:59.843 --> 00:26:05.315
- What we were raised in.
- 00:26:05.315 --> 00:26:07.250
- Your family said, we're the helpers.
- 00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:12.689
- We don't need help.
- 00:26:12.689 --> 00:26:13.957
- My mom and dad had a little bit of a different twist on it.
- 00:26:13.957 --> 00:26:19.496
- They said, you know, if we would ever go get help from
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- Someone, it would just get put into the rumor mill and it
- 00:26:24.167 --> 00:26:27.904
- Would spread all and it'd be on the new york times cover and
- 00:26:27.904 --> 00:26:33.743
- That kind of thing.
- 00:26:33.743 --> 00:26:34.944
- There was a very different reason that my parents just
- 00:26:34.944 --> 00:26:39.115
- Didn't trust anyone to open their mouth about issues.
- 00:26:39.115 --> 00:26:44.087
- I mean, my mom and dad became a little bit more
- 00:26:44.087 --> 00:26:48.825
- Vocal about some issues that
- 00:26:48.825 --> 00:26:52.128
- Would have been in their own lives.
- 00:26:52.128 --> 00:26:54.130
- I remember laurie and i were sitting there one time and, you
- 00:26:54.130 --> 00:26:58.401
- Know, it was crazy because my mom had a very similar issue
- 00:26:58.401 --> 00:27:06.509
- That the example of your friend had.
- 00:27:06.509 --> 00:27:09.679
- That when her father died, i would have been about sixteen
- 00:27:09.679 --> 00:27:14.517
- Or seventeen years old when edgar bethany died, my mom felt
- 00:27:14.517 --> 00:27:21.324
- That for whatever reason she had been kind of troubled as a
- 00:27:21.324 --> 00:27:26.262
- Teen and got kicked out of, you know, a christian bible
- 00:27:26.262 --> 00:27:30.467
- College so she carried a lot of those issues of, you know,
- 00:27:30.467 --> 00:27:34.537
- Guilt and shame.
- 00:27:34.537 --> 00:27:35.438
- Guilt and shame and that kind of stuff
- 00:27:35.438 --> 00:27:37.907
- So when her father died,
- 00:27:37.907 --> 00:27:40.710
- It was
- 00:27:40.710 --> 00:27:42.345
- An issue that she felt like that was the only human being
- 00:27:42.345 --> 00:27:47.283
- On planet earth that loved her unconditionally, had just died.
- 00:27:47.283 --> 00:27:51.287
- So her father's death wasn't just about a normal dad.
- 00:27:51.287 --> 00:27:57.127
- This is the only person on earth that knows who i am and
- 00:27:57.127 --> 00:28:02.031
- Loves me unconditionally.
- 00:28:02.031 --> 00:28:03.867
- Now, she tells us that sitting with my dad sitting there, now
- 00:28:03.867 --> 00:28:09.572
- We're clutching our pearls because my mom's being so
- 00:28:09.572 --> 00:28:12.876
- Circumspect in front of my dad.
- 00:28:12.876 --> 00:28:14.778
- Certainly,
- 00:28:14.778 --> 00:28:16.479
- My dad was being kind about it, but his internal monologue was
- 00:28:16.479 --> 00:28:20.350
- Going, seriously, we've been married 55 years.
- 00:28:20.350 --> 00:28:23.887
- What do i have do?
- 00:28:23.887 --> 00:28:24.954
- What else do i have to do?
- 00:28:24.954 --> 00:28:27.090
- And so he didn't take that approach, but only super late
- 00:28:27.090 --> 00:28:34.097
- In life and just a few months or years before both of my
- 00:28:34.097 --> 00:28:37.901
- Parents made it to heaven, where all their troubles are
- 00:28:37.901 --> 00:28:41.437
- Over, did they even start kind of stepping into this kind of
- 00:28:41.437 --> 00:28:46.743
- An issue and maybe modeling it up for us just a little bit
- 00:28:46.743 --> 00:28:52.749
- Before-- you know, my dad and i
- 00:28:52.749 --> 00:28:55.752
- Had a conversation about forgiveness
- 00:28:55.752 --> 00:28:59.489
- Two weeks before he died.
- 00:29:02.492 --> 00:29:03.860
- Where it was like, woah, this is a we were getting down to
- 00:29:03.860 --> 00:29:10.300
- Some real brass tacks, but he knew he was, i mean, when you
- 00:29:10.300 --> 00:29:13.570
- Die of congestive heart failure, unless god intervenes,
- 00:29:13.570 --> 00:29:17.574
- You just slowly lose energy and then you just don't wake up.
- 00:29:17.574 --> 00:29:21.144
- And so fortunately, there's no pain involved in my dad's
- 00:29:21.144 --> 00:29:24.214
- Death, but he just got weaker and weaker until he just didn't
- 00:29:24.214 --> 00:29:26.449
- Wake up.
- 00:29:26.449 --> 00:29:27.717
- But in those last little bits, knowing, and he even started
- 00:29:27.717 --> 00:29:31.588
- Seeing the other side.
- 00:29:31.588 --> 00:29:32.722
- He started seeing some things.
- 00:29:32.722 --> 00:29:34.991
- You could tell that he-- tell us to
- 00:29:34.991 --> 00:29:35.992
- Move out of the way so he could
- 00:29:35.992 --> 00:29:37.260
- See he could see a family member kind of beyond, and
- 00:29:37.260 --> 00:29:41.164
- So he was starting to really transition and
- 00:29:41.164 --> 00:29:46.269
- He would come back and really be circumspect in a very
- 00:29:46.269 --> 00:29:50.540
- Powerful way.
- 00:29:50.540 --> 00:29:51.808
- And i kind of wanted to go, well, better late than never.
- 00:29:51.808 --> 00:29:56.179
- But you know, this might have been a good conversation when i
- 00:29:56.179 --> 00:29:59.249
- Was a teenager, dad.
- 00:29:59.249 --> 00:30:00.450
- You know, i mean, that would have-- you know.
- 00:30:00.450 --> 00:30:01.918
- So we're finally kind of getting, you know, pulling our
- 00:30:01.918 --> 00:30:07.657
- Head out of the sand, you know.
- 00:30:07.657 --> 00:30:10.627
- And i could have said that a little worse, but i'm just
- 00:30:10.627 --> 00:30:13.396
- Gonna say like the ostrich pulls his head out of the sand.
- 00:30:13.396 --> 00:30:17.834
- But we're finally starting to get into this where, you know,
- 00:30:17.834 --> 00:30:23.139
- The kyle idlmans of the world with, you know, best-selling
- 00:30:23.139 --> 00:30:26.376
- Authors are starting to get into this.
- 00:30:26.376 --> 00:30:28.144
- And max lucado was one of the interviews we just recently did
- 00:30:28.144 --> 00:30:32.382
- On this exact subject, and others.
- 00:30:32.382 --> 00:30:34.851
- But it's really time for this now because life is moving so
- 00:30:34.851 --> 00:30:39.856
- Fast, we don't even sit and even take any kind of a thought
- 00:30:39.856 --> 00:30:44.961
- Captive because life's just going so fast.
- 00:30:44.961 --> 00:30:48.131
- How does our thoughts affect
- 00:30:48.131 --> 00:30:52.168
- Our relationship with god?
- 00:30:52.168 --> 00:30:55.171
- You know, the--
- 00:30:55.171 --> 00:30:58.074
- Like, i'll use matt's example
- 00:30:58.074 --> 00:31:00.076
- There as he's talking about his father.
- 00:31:00.076 --> 00:31:02.745
- Our thoughts, the bible talks about in romans 12,
- 00:31:02.745 --> 00:31:07.650
- Where we're conformed, and that word is molded.
- 00:31:07.650 --> 00:31:11.354
- Like, our thoughts are molding us.
- 00:31:11.354 --> 00:31:12.822
- So you picture a mold, and the translation here would
- 00:31:12.822 --> 00:31:17.393
- Be, don't just be squeezed into a mold without even thinking
- 00:31:17.393 --> 00:31:21.664
- And so for a lot of people, their thoughts about god,
- 00:31:21.664 --> 00:31:22.065
- About it.
- 00:31:22.065 --> 00:31:23.099
- It's been molded and been shaped in ways that they
- 00:31:26.569 --> 00:31:31.107
- Don't necessarily realize or maybe it's been passed on to
- 00:31:31.107 --> 00:31:34.043
- Them from, you know, a parent
- 00:31:34.043 --> 00:31:35.645
- Or from a significant influence.
- 00:31:35.645 --> 00:31:38.147
- And it's caused them to relate to god differently than
- 00:31:38.147 --> 00:31:42.218
- He reveals himself in scripture.
- 00:31:42.218 --> 00:31:44.053
- Now, if they would stop and think about it and they would--
- 00:31:44.053 --> 00:31:46.789
- Like, so god's favorite metaphor for himself, it's not
- 00:31:46.789 --> 00:31:50.059
- Even, i'd say metaphor, picture of himself because it is
- 00:31:50.059 --> 00:31:54.664
- Literal, but is he describes himself as a father.
- 00:31:54.664 --> 00:31:57.600
- Right? like, that's how he wants us to think of him and
- 00:31:57.600 --> 00:32:00.503
- Identify with him.
- 00:32:00.503 --> 00:32:02.438
- But your neural pathway for a father may not be at all what
- 00:32:02.438 --> 00:32:07.810
- God has revealed himself to be as a father, and so your
- 00:32:07.810 --> 00:32:12.815
- Thoughts about god may be i need to keep my distance.
- 00:32:12.815 --> 00:32:15.351
- He's if god's chasing after me, it's not to hug me, it's to
- 00:32:15.351 --> 00:32:20.089
- You know, he's trying-- so our thinking around god is often
- 00:32:20.089 --> 00:32:20.423
- Hurt me.
- 00:32:20.423 --> 00:32:22.992
- Established pretty early.
- 00:32:25.995 --> 00:32:27.830
- And then, you know, he says, here's how i want you to
- 00:32:27.830 --> 00:32:30.767
- Think of me.
- 00:32:30.767 --> 00:32:31.601
- And gives us this image of father.
- 00:32:31.601 --> 00:32:33.302
- But even that can be molded by the the world around us.
- 00:32:33.302 --> 00:32:38.041
- So again, the idea of examining, okay, why do i think
- 00:32:38.041 --> 00:32:42.412
- This way?
- 00:32:42.412 --> 00:32:43.312
- Where did that come from?
- 00:32:43.312 --> 00:32:44.547
- And then looking at scripture and saying, well, does god
- 00:32:44.547 --> 00:32:47.050
- Reveal himself?
- 00:32:47.050 --> 00:32:48.351
- And then asking god, god help me to think of you the way that
- 00:32:48.351 --> 00:32:52.789
- You want me to, the way that your word teaches.
- 00:32:52.789 --> 00:32:55.291
- Yeah.
- 00:32:55.291 --> 00:32:56.225
- Are your thoughts holding you captive?
- 00:32:56.225 --> 00:32:58.227
- Do fear, anxiety, or shame try to take over your life?
- 00:32:58.227 --> 00:33:01.998
- You're not alone, and freedom belongs to you.
- 00:33:01.998 --> 00:33:05.468
- The same god who made our brains, the same god who gave
- 00:33:05.468 --> 00:33:09.272
- Us science, gave us scripture
- 00:33:09.272 --> 00:33:10.740
- That helps people recognize, okay.
- 00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:13.376
- I'm still gonna let scripture be my foundation, but i'm gonna
- 00:33:13.376 --> 00:33:16.746
- See that this is how god made me.
- 00:33:16.746 --> 00:33:18.614
- He's the one who made my brain.
- 00:33:18.614 --> 00:33:20.116
- Here's how it works, and here's how scripture supports it.
- 00:33:20.116 --> 00:33:23.019
- In his powerful new book, every thought captive, kyle idleman
- 00:33:23.019 --> 00:33:27.256
- Reveals the spiritual and scientific truth.
- 00:33:27.256 --> 00:33:30.059
- You can renew your mind and transform your life.
- 00:33:30.059 --> 00:33:33.129
- As we align our thoughts with what god teaches, then the holy
- 00:33:33.129 --> 00:33:37.767
- Spirit brings about transformation that we can't
- 00:33:37.767 --> 00:33:40.570
- Bring on our own.
- 00:33:40.570 --> 00:33:42.371
- Learn how to break free from destructive patterns, rewire
- 00:33:42.371 --> 00:33:46.409
- Your brain with the truth of god's word, and invite god to
- 00:33:46.409 --> 00:33:50.046
- Bring healing to your life starting today.
- 00:33:50.046 --> 00:33:53.049
- Is this almost like
- 00:33:55.952 --> 00:34:00.690
- Teaching you what a counseling session would be like if you
- 00:34:00.690 --> 00:34:04.694
- Went to one?
- 00:34:04.694 --> 00:34:05.962
- In other words, if you start doing this or practicing this
- 00:34:05.962 --> 00:34:10.166
- Yourself, it's almost like kind of mental judo.
- 00:34:10.166 --> 00:34:13.736
- You take the thought and you flip it and find the way that
- 00:34:13.736 --> 00:34:21.377
- God asks you to deal with those kind of issues instead of
- 00:34:21.377 --> 00:34:28.518
- Repressing it and scrolling.
- 00:34:28.518 --> 00:34:30.286
- Right.
- 00:34:30.286 --> 00:34:31.020
- Yeah. yeah.
- 00:34:31.020 --> 00:34:32.321
- One of the things i try to do in this book is give biblical
- 00:34:32.321 --> 00:34:34.924
- Language for things that would
- 00:34:34.924 --> 00:34:38.094
- Show up in a counseling session.
- 00:34:38.094 --> 00:34:40.196
- Right? so when i'm talking about strongholds, well that's
- 00:34:40.196 --> 00:34:43.299
- A that's spiritual, that's biblical language.
- 00:34:43.299 --> 00:34:46.035
- Now you go to a counseling session and they can help you
- 00:34:46.035 --> 00:34:49.305
- Identify those strongholds.
- 00:34:49.305 --> 00:34:50.840
- They can help you identify these things in your life that
- 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:55.478
- Need to be torn down.
- 00:34:55.478 --> 00:34:56.579
- Patterns? the patterns, yes.
- 00:34:56.579 --> 00:34:58.381
- There's patterns of thinking
- 00:34:58.381 --> 00:34:59.348
- That you maybe don't recognize yourself.
- 00:34:59.348 --> 00:35:01.083
- And if you go to a counseling session, they're not just gonna
- 00:35:01.083 --> 00:35:04.320
- Tell you here's what they are.
- 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:05.888
- They know the importance of helping you think through it
- 00:35:05.888 --> 00:35:09.091
- And identify it yourself.
- 00:35:09.091 --> 00:35:11.360
- Because when you can see it, when you can identify it,
- 00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.863
- You'll address it differently.
- 00:35:13.863 --> 00:35:15.464
- But to give some biblical language to that, to recognize,
- 00:35:15.464 --> 00:35:18.734
- Okay, that journey you're on over here is a-- there's
- 00:35:18.734 --> 00:35:22.638
- A biblical path.
- 00:35:22.638 --> 00:35:24.273
- There's a scriptural way to think about this.
- 00:35:24.273 --> 00:35:27.009
- And in ii corinthians 5, where it talks about
- 00:35:27.009 --> 00:35:29.545
- Those strongholds, it also talks about that we engage
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- Those strongholds with spiritual weapons, not the
- 00:35:32.982 --> 00:35:36.352
- Weapons of this world.
- 00:35:36.352 --> 00:35:38.120
- And so being able to recognize, alright, i'm gonna let god's
- 00:35:38.120 --> 00:35:42.825
- Word be a weapon for me in tearing down this stronghold.
- 00:35:42.825 --> 00:35:46.829
- And so my hope would be that this book would be a great
- 00:35:46.829 --> 00:35:50.666
- Companion for somebody who's on that mental health journey.
- 00:35:50.666 --> 00:35:53.836
- They're getting some help maybe from a professional in that
- 00:35:53.836 --> 00:35:57.306
- Area, but that this book can help them understand the
- 00:35:57.306 --> 00:36:01.077
- Biblical path that will give
- 00:36:01.077 --> 00:36:04.447
- Supernatural power to that journey.
- 00:36:04.447 --> 00:36:06.983
- Kyle, i'm older than you are,
- 00:36:06.983 --> 00:36:10.953
- And i'm the host of the show.
- 00:36:10.953 --> 00:36:12.455
- But i'm giving you permission to disagree with me here.
- 00:36:12.455 --> 00:36:15.891
- Okay. a pastor told me this,
- 00:36:15.891 --> 00:36:19.462
- That-- and i've been thinking about it, and in a lot of ways
- 00:36:19.462 --> 00:36:22.732
- It makes sense to me, but i wanna throw this kind of
- 00:36:22.732 --> 00:36:25.901
- Statement out there and then have you comment on it,
- 00:36:25.901 --> 00:36:29.605
- Either yes or no.
- 00:36:29.605 --> 00:36:30.506
- But a stronghold
- 00:36:30.506 --> 00:36:34.176
- Is a thought believed by a
- 00:36:34.176 --> 00:36:37.813
- Group of people or by many people.
- 00:36:37.813 --> 00:36:41.250
- Does that resonate with you?
- 00:36:41.250 --> 00:36:42.818
- Well, i think that it's consistent in the fact that
- 00:36:42.818 --> 00:36:46.289
- Romans twelve connects our thinking to the patterns of
- 00:36:46.289 --> 00:36:49.725
- This world.
- 00:36:49.725 --> 00:36:50.793
- Meaning, a way of thinking held by many people.
- 00:36:50.793 --> 00:36:53.729
- I think the stronghold in
- 00:36:53.729 --> 00:36:55.665
- Second corinthians five is more personal.
- 00:36:55.665 --> 00:36:58.100
- It's like a lie that i live by.
- 00:36:58.100 --> 00:37:02.038
- I'm only a helper.
- 00:37:02.038 --> 00:37:03.773
- I can't get help. yes.
- 00:37:03.773 --> 00:37:05.241
- That's a stronghold in you, was in your mind.
- 00:37:05.241 --> 00:37:09.245
- My mom's, in this example, was this idea that the only person
- 00:37:09.245 --> 00:37:13.983
- That ever would have accepted me unconditionally just died.
- 00:37:13.983 --> 00:37:17.586
- Yes, that's right.
- 00:37:17.586 --> 00:37:18.454
- So that was a pattern, and that
- 00:37:18.454 --> 00:37:20.456
- Could have affected her behaviors.
- 00:37:20.456 --> 00:37:22.224
- Yes, absolutely.
- 00:37:22.224 --> 00:37:22.958
- Maybe that's why she had pink
- 00:37:22.958 --> 00:37:24.226
- Hair when she was seventy, you know?
- 00:37:24.226 --> 00:37:27.063
- Yeah. she was reverting-- she's before her time. reverting
- 00:37:27.063 --> 00:37:30.499
- To be a teenager again, you know, almost.
- 00:37:30.499 --> 00:37:32.535
- What i really love about the journey that you're referencing
- 00:37:32.535 --> 00:37:35.237
- There is like, we're all always learning and god's revealing
- 00:37:35.237 --> 00:37:38.974
- New things to us all the time.
- 00:37:38.974 --> 00:37:40.176
- Yes. about where we didn't--
- 00:37:40.176 --> 00:37:42.545
- Let me give you a quick example of this.
- 00:37:42.545 --> 00:37:44.246
- I'd have, for a long time, i would take pride in myself as a
- 00:37:44.246 --> 00:37:48.884
- Pastor leader, as someone who wasn't easily offended.
- 00:37:48.884 --> 00:37:51.620
- You know?
- 00:37:51.620 --> 00:37:52.922
- People could say things to me, i didn't think too much about
- 00:37:52.922 --> 00:37:55.658
- It, i could let that go.
- 00:37:55.658 --> 00:37:57.293
- If you get cut off in traffic, were you cool about that?
- 00:37:57.293 --> 00:37:59.895
- I did pretty well.
- 00:37:59.895 --> 00:38:01.163
- Okay. my wife might tell you differently, but for the most
- 00:38:01.163 --> 00:38:04.600
- Part, i wouldn't get offended very easily.
- 00:38:04.600 --> 00:38:07.570
- But five or six years ago, i started to have a different way
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- Of thinking.
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- I started to take things personally.
- 00:38:12.775 --> 00:38:14.510
- I had my mind shift started to shift just slightly where
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- Someone would say something to me and my wife would say to me,
- 00:38:19.882 --> 00:38:22.251
- She'd say, hey, you know, you used to handle this stuff
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- And lately, i just feel like you're more irritable, you're
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- Pretty well.
- 00:38:26.922 --> 00:38:27.189
- Defensive, you're-- and so i was
- 00:38:28.891 --> 00:38:32.094
- Aware of it, but couldn't shake it.
- 00:38:32.094 --> 00:38:35.364
- I was just, i was just frustrated.
- 00:38:35.364 --> 00:38:37.633
- I felt like all i could do was disappoint people.
- 00:38:37.633 --> 00:38:39.535
- Mhmm. too many people were upset with me.
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- And and so i was being reactive.
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- Just you know, every time somebody said something, i
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- Would get defensive.
- 00:38:46.542 --> 00:38:47.777
- And then i get this phone call at the-- or, excuse me, i
- 00:38:47.777 --> 00:38:50.913
- Got an email at the church from
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- This guy who just kinda lit me up.
- 00:38:52.548 --> 00:38:54.750
- I mean, he--
- 00:38:54.750 --> 00:38:55.484
- I love those.
- 00:38:55.484 --> 00:38:56.719
- I didn't know him, but he was convinced i was the worst.
- 00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.222
- He was so angry and so upset.
- 00:39:00.222 --> 00:39:01.757
- And so i did something i shouldn't have done, i normally
- 00:39:01.757 --> 00:39:03.926
- Wouldn't do, but i thought, i'm just gonna call this guy
- 00:39:03.926 --> 00:39:07.696
- I don't know who he is, but his i found his phone number, and i
- 00:39:07.696 --> 00:39:08.097
- Right now.
- 00:39:08.097 --> 00:39:08.364
- Picked up the church phone to call him and tell him what i
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- Thought of his--
- 00:39:13.869 --> 00:39:14.770
- Don't ask me how i know.
- 00:39:14.770 --> 00:39:16.138
- Yeah. don't ask me how i know.
- 00:39:16.138 --> 00:39:17.773
- But i so i call him.
- 00:39:17.773 --> 00:39:19.608
- He picks up the phone, and all he can see is that it's
- 00:39:19.608 --> 00:39:22.511
- A phone call from the church.
- 00:39:22.511 --> 00:39:24.146
- Right? he picks up the phone, and he says immediately, before
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- I even have a chance to identify myself,
- 00:39:28.584 --> 00:39:31.454
- He says, are you calling about my son?
- 00:39:31.454 --> 00:39:33.789
- And i could hear in his voice that something was wrong.
- 00:39:33.789 --> 00:39:37.726
- And i said, actually, you know,
- 00:39:37.726 --> 00:39:39.728
- This is kyle calling from the church.
- 00:39:39.728 --> 00:39:42.431
- I was calling about the email you sent me, but tell me about
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- Your son.
- 00:39:44.600 --> 00:39:45.334
- What's going on with your son?
- 00:39:45.334 --> 00:39:46.802
- And he said, my son overdosed in nashville and we're supposed
- 00:39:46.802 --> 00:39:53.542
- To find an extended care place,
- 00:39:53.542 --> 00:39:55.010
- But we don't know where to send him.
- 00:39:55.010 --> 00:39:56.045
- We don't have the money to send him somewhere.
- 00:39:56.045 --> 00:39:58.647
- And i could just hear the weight of this past month of
- 00:39:58.647 --> 00:40:02.551
- His life as his son has been dealing with an overdose and
- 00:40:02.551 --> 00:40:05.387
- His parents were trying to navigate it.
- 00:40:05.387 --> 00:40:07.289
- Now something happened in my mind at that time.
- 00:40:07.289 --> 00:40:11.126
- Suddenly i wasn't offended.
- 00:40:11.126 --> 00:40:14.930
- The thoughts i had just a few moments before were completely
- 00:40:14.930 --> 00:40:19.134
- Replaced with thoughts of compassion and love and care.
- 00:40:19.134 --> 00:40:24.540
- And so the conversation changed.
- 00:40:24.540 --> 00:40:27.009
- I said, hey, you know, we can help you with this.
- 00:40:27.009 --> 00:40:30.846
- And i helped him find a place to send his son, and we helped
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- Him take the next steps financially so they could get
- 00:40:33.782 --> 00:40:36.585
- Him squared away.
- 00:40:36.585 --> 00:40:37.853
- And what god taught me about that in my thinking,
- 00:40:37.853 --> 00:40:41.690
- What he did is he interrupted a pattern that i
- 00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:45.294
- Had just gotten into this
- 00:40:45.294 --> 00:40:47.530
- Habit of getting offended too easily.
- 00:40:47.530 --> 00:40:49.431
- That insecurity, is that what you talk about in the book?
- 00:40:49.431 --> 00:40:52.034
- Yeah. i think, in the book i talk about it as how our culture
- 00:40:52.034 --> 00:40:56.705
- Deals with offense.
- 00:40:56.705 --> 00:40:57.806
- Like, okay.
- 00:40:57.806 --> 00:40:58.707
- We become more
- 00:40:58.707 --> 00:41:01.343
- Like, it feels good to be offended.
- 00:41:01.343 --> 00:41:04.079
- There's actually dopamine
- 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:05.548
- That gets released in your brain.
- 00:41:05.548 --> 00:41:07.016
- Like, this-- yeah.
- 00:41:07.016 --> 00:41:08.217
- That when you get offended, that it, your body likes--
- 00:41:08.217 --> 00:41:11.554
- You play the victim.
- 00:41:11.554 --> 00:41:13.088
- There's something
- 00:41:13.088 --> 00:41:14.290
- That gets reinforced about when i get to be the victim.
- 00:41:14.290 --> 00:41:16.759
- And now, as you all know, like,
- 00:41:16.759 --> 00:41:18.127
- Culturally, that's becomes identity.
- 00:41:18.127 --> 00:41:20.129
- Sure. like, oh, i'm a
- 00:41:20.129 --> 00:41:22.131
- Victim, and i can play into that.
- 00:41:22.131 --> 00:41:24.400
- And what broke that pattern for me was god giving me the
- 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:28.671
- Opportunity to think about
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- Things from that man's perspective.
- 00:41:30.839 --> 00:41:33.576
- Wow. and what he taught me there is, which i knew but had
- 00:41:33.576 --> 00:41:36.946
- Forgotten, was that there's always a different perspective.
- 00:41:36.946 --> 00:41:40.583
- And the people who hurt me are almost always people who are
- 00:41:40.583 --> 00:41:43.218
- Hurting and
- 00:41:43.218 --> 00:41:44.453
- If i will just take time to see them through the lens of
- 00:41:44.453 --> 00:41:48.290
- Scripture, through the eyes of jesus, if i will ask questions,
- 00:41:48.290 --> 00:41:51.226
- If i will put my-- if i will give myself space to think about it
- 00:41:51.226 --> 00:41:55.764
- Differently, then it breaks that pattern of offense.
- 00:41:55.764 --> 00:42:00.603
- And i just know for a lot of people, like, they need this
- 00:42:00.603 --> 00:42:05.240
- Moment to help them break free from this thinking that's
- 00:42:05.240 --> 00:42:10.446
- Held them captive.
- 00:42:10.446 --> 00:42:11.680
- There's a bunch of people watching right now that i think
- 00:42:11.680 --> 00:42:13.882
- This would be a great time for you to look at them and and and
- 00:42:13.882 --> 00:42:17.920
- Minister to the ones that are really engaged in this
- 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.256
- Conversation right now.
- 00:42:21.256 --> 00:42:22.358
- Kyle, that'd be beautiful.
- 00:42:22.358 --> 00:42:23.258
- They're right out there, in there.
- 00:42:23.258 --> 00:42:25.461
- Sure. right at the red light there.
- 00:42:25.461 --> 00:42:27.296
- Yeah. you know, where i would, love to encourage you is out of
- 00:42:27.296 --> 00:42:32.368
- Philippians 4, where paul talks about whatever is pure,
- 00:42:32.368 --> 00:42:37.539
- Whatever is lovely, whatever is true, whatever is noble,
- 00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:40.309
- Whatever is good, whatever is
- 00:42:40.309 --> 00:42:41.477
- Praiseworthy, think about these things.
- 00:42:41.477 --> 00:42:44.513
- Honestly, the fact that you are watching this means that you
- 00:42:44.513 --> 00:42:48.417
- Are doing that.
- 00:42:48.417 --> 00:42:49.685
- Like, are right now, you are giving your mind to something
- 00:42:49.685 --> 00:42:53.389
- That has the power to give you life and healing and freedom
- 00:42:53.389 --> 00:42:56.592
- And grace.
- 00:42:56.592 --> 00:42:57.860
- And so my challenge to you would be to take your
- 00:42:57.860 --> 00:43:01.330
- Thoughts captive by doing a little bit of an inventory,
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- Like paying attention to the things that you're exposing
- 00:43:03.966 --> 00:43:06.101
- Your mind to.
- 00:43:06.101 --> 00:43:07.336
- Like how often are you on your screens?
- 00:43:07.336 --> 00:43:09.438
- What are you watching?
- 00:43:09.438 --> 00:43:10.272
- What are you listening to?
- 00:43:10.272 --> 00:43:11.740
- And be intentional to say, okay, i'm just gonna start
- 00:43:11.740 --> 00:43:14.877
- Taking some steps.
- 00:43:14.877 --> 00:43:15.811
- Maybe it's the first thing in
- 00:43:15.811 --> 00:43:17.079
- The morning by reading some scriptures.
- 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:19.114
- Maybe it's what laurie talked about where you identify a
- 00:43:19.114 --> 00:43:21.383
- Scripture and when you fall asleep at night,
- 00:43:21.383 --> 00:43:24.553
- You picture it.
- 00:43:24.553 --> 00:43:25.287
- You can think of that scripture.
- 00:43:25.287 --> 00:43:26.655
- Maybe it's like tuning into programs like this on the on
- 00:43:26.655 --> 00:43:30.192
- A regular basis.
- 00:43:30.192 --> 00:43:31.360
- And when you're watching it, you're praying and asking
- 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.829
- God, would you allow this to be what shapes my life?
- 00:43:33.829 --> 00:43:37.666
- Mhmm. the bible says in romans 12, don't be conformed, but
- 00:43:37.666 --> 00:43:41.637
- Be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
- 00:43:41.637 --> 00:43:44.039
- And all of us are on that journey.
- 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.774
- That be transformed is not just this one time thing.
- 00:43:45.774 --> 00:43:49.211
- It is god constantly
- 00:43:49.211 --> 00:43:50.846
- Transforming us and making us new.
- 00:43:50.846 --> 00:43:53.949
- So invite him to do that for you, and then you do your part
- 00:43:53.949 --> 00:43:57.319
- By aligning your thoughts with
- 00:43:57.319 --> 00:44:00.155
- His word just one day at a time.
- 00:44:00.155 --> 00:44:02.725
- Sometimes folks love it when you pray for them.
- 00:44:02.725 --> 00:44:05.861
- Just pray for the audience if you would, please.
- 00:44:05.861 --> 00:44:07.730
- Love to do that.
- 00:44:07.730 --> 00:44:10.365
- God, we recognize that you are the god who created our brains,
- 00:44:10.365 --> 00:44:14.470
- And you have made it so that our minds can be re renewed.
- 00:44:14.470 --> 00:44:18.974
- The way we have thought doesn't have to be the way we think.
- 00:44:18.974 --> 00:44:22.111
- You can give us a new way of thinking.
- 00:44:22.111 --> 00:44:24.546
- And when you give us a new way
- 00:44:24.546 --> 00:44:25.647
- Of thinking, that changes everything.
- 00:44:25.647 --> 00:44:27.483
- It gives us a new way of living.
- 00:44:27.483 --> 00:44:28.650
- It gives us a new way of relating.
- 00:44:28.650 --> 00:44:30.352
- Yeah. and so god, we recognize that that is by your power.
- 00:44:30.352 --> 00:44:34.923
- But for many of us, lord, we are not taking the time and the
- 00:44:34.923 --> 00:44:38.761
- Space to invite you into that.
- 00:44:38.761 --> 00:44:40.729
- So we wanna humbly do that and thank you that by your grace,
- 00:44:40.729 --> 00:44:44.032
- You'll meet us right where we are.
- 00:44:44.032 --> 00:44:45.467
- And god, i pray that it wouldn't be just positive
- 00:44:45.467 --> 00:44:49.037
- Thinking or empty
- 00:44:49.037 --> 00:44:54.143
- Declarations that we we say, but that we would really
- 00:44:54.143 --> 00:44:57.412
- Discover the power of scripture, that your word would become
- 00:44:57.412 --> 00:45:01.784
- What shapes us, what molds us, what forms our thinking.
- 00:45:01.784 --> 00:45:05.788
- And god, would you just continue to break us free from
- 00:45:05.788 --> 00:45:08.223
- The strongholds.
- 00:45:08.223 --> 00:45:09.358
- And i pray that by your supernatural power, we would
- 00:45:09.358 --> 00:45:11.794
- Experience the renewing of our minds and the changing of our
- 00:45:11.794 --> 00:45:15.430
- Lives that can only happen in you.
- 00:45:15.430 --> 00:45:17.266
- It's in jesus' name we pray.
- 00:45:17.266 --> 00:45:18.634
- Amen.
- 00:45:18.634 --> 00:45:19.902
- I contrast this program today and the subject and the hour
- 00:45:19.902 --> 00:45:26.909
- That we've been unpacking some of this and encouraging you to
- 00:45:26.909 --> 00:45:31.747
- Get this with something i remember.
- 00:45:31.747 --> 00:45:36.285
- If you wind the clock back about forty one or forty two years, i
- 00:45:36.285 --> 00:45:42.024
- Was asking for some counseling from a very well known national
- 00:45:42.024 --> 00:45:47.496
- Person that a lot of people would know who it was, who's in
- 00:45:47.496 --> 00:45:51.834
- Heaven today.
- 00:45:51.834 --> 00:45:53.001
- And the advice i got was don't talk about it.
- 00:45:53.001 --> 00:45:59.374
- And in fact, the only person you should-- the only thing you
- 00:45:59.374 --> 00:46:02.978
- Should do with this information that you're trying to get
- 00:46:02.978 --> 00:46:06.048
- Counseling about is tell it to
- 00:46:06.048 --> 00:46:08.050
- Your cat and then shoot your cat.
- 00:46:08.050 --> 00:46:10.352
- Okay? that was a forty one year
- 00:46:10.352 --> 00:46:14.156
- Old advice from a national figure.
- 00:46:14.156 --> 00:46:17.793
- And to think that we've gone from telling a cat and then
- 00:46:17.793 --> 00:46:21.730
- Shooting it to openly discussing these things and
- 00:46:21.730 --> 00:46:25.801
- Personally discussing matters like we've done today is a
- 00:46:25.801 --> 00:46:30.472
- Light year jump.
- 00:46:30.472 --> 00:46:31.607
- Yeah.
- 00:46:31.607 --> 00:46:32.841
- And for that, i'm grateful to god that we are opening up
- 00:46:32.841 --> 00:46:37.813
- Concerning these matters.
- 00:46:37.813 --> 00:46:39.381
- And you know what i love?
- 00:46:39.381 --> 00:46:40.616
- What i love about tbn, and i love because tbn wouldn't be
- 00:46:40.616 --> 00:46:44.653
- Anything without kyle idleman today.
- 00:46:44.653 --> 00:46:47.556
- And i just-- when people are sick, you hear that
- 00:46:47.556 --> 00:46:53.028
- I read this all the time in emails and stuff from people
- 00:46:53.028 --> 00:46:56.899
- That, you know, i've been bedridden, and so i have tbn on
- 00:46:56.899 --> 00:47:00.302
- Twenty four hours a day.
- 00:47:00.302 --> 00:47:01.670
- And it's like, if we don't stay-- it's like when you get sick,
- 00:47:01.670 --> 00:47:06.708
- All of a sudden you wanna take a bunch of vitamins, you know?
- 00:47:06.708 --> 00:47:08.777
- Well, if we-- what are vitamins there to--
- 00:47:08.777 --> 00:47:13.215
- Preventative.
- 00:47:13.215 --> 00:47:14.082
- Preventative. preventative health.
- 00:47:14.082 --> 00:47:15.717
- If we always stay in a healthy
- 00:47:15.717 --> 00:47:20.355
- State of mind,
- 00:47:20.355 --> 00:47:21.456
- State of mind continuously, like the bible says,
- 00:47:21.456 --> 00:47:24.526
- Pray. on your word, i
- 00:47:24.526 --> 00:47:25.627
- Meditate day and your thoughts, renewing my mind
- 00:47:25.627 --> 00:47:29.798
- Every morning with the word of god.
- 00:47:29.798 --> 00:47:32.000
- If we stay in that place, it's gonna help us when these
- 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:36.705
- Seasons of life do come.
- 00:47:36.705 --> 00:47:38.907
- This is, life is filled with trials and and tribulation, and
- 00:47:38.907 --> 00:47:44.346
- That was promised to us.
- 00:47:44.346 --> 00:47:45.914
- Mhmm.
- 00:47:45.914 --> 00:47:47.115
- And if we stay in the word of god and we just keep that
- 00:47:47.115 --> 00:47:50.018
- Going all the time, it's such a preventive thing to help us to
- 00:47:50.018 --> 00:47:54.356
- Easily navigate.
- 00:47:54.356 --> 00:47:55.590
- I love what you talked about a while ago with that email
- 00:47:55.590 --> 00:47:59.094
- Because, i think even in the last couple weeks, our life was--
- 00:47:59.094 --> 00:48:04.132
- My life was up upended with
- 00:48:04.132 --> 00:48:06.234
- Health issues with my mom and dad.
- 00:48:06.234 --> 00:48:07.970
- Yeah. and came back from israel and my life had changed.
- 00:48:07.970 --> 00:48:12.341
- Our life had changed. and having to
- 00:48:12.341 --> 00:48:13.442
- Navigate this season with both of my parents has
- 00:48:13.442 --> 00:48:19.614
- Been a little bit overwhelming, but in the state of it all,
- 00:48:19.614 --> 00:48:25.520
- With dementia care and all the craziness that can come with
- 00:48:25.520 --> 00:48:31.159
- It, overwhelming love that just pours out when you can get
- 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:37.099
- Offended, when it's easily to get to get offended.
- 00:48:37.099 --> 00:48:41.003
- It's so amazing as a christ follower that he
- 00:48:41.003 --> 00:48:45.440
- Promises his grace
- 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.342
- Is sufficient for us.
- 00:48:47.342 --> 00:48:48.810
- Yeah. and his love.
- 00:48:48.810 --> 00:48:50.112
- And if we stay full of, then we get to overflow, and
- 00:48:50.112 --> 00:48:53.815
- That overflow is, man, what--
- 00:48:53.815 --> 00:48:56.084
- What's happening with you today.
- 00:48:56.084 --> 00:48:58.020
- Yeah. or the love that someone that just kinda
- 00:48:58.020 --> 00:49:01.590
- Pours out of you only by god's goodness and his grace to
- 00:49:01.590 --> 00:49:06.294
- Someone who needs help, who needs care,
- 00:49:06.294 --> 00:49:10.298
- Who needs-- i love your language of vitamins.
- 00:49:10.298 --> 00:49:14.836
- Because so, if you think of your thoughts as diet.
- 00:49:14.836 --> 00:49:20.475
- Yeah. you know, in fact, one of the things i would challenge
- 00:49:20.475 --> 00:49:23.712
- People to do is to do a little
- 00:49:23.712 --> 00:49:25.514
- Bit of a diet journal with your thoughts.
- 00:49:25.514 --> 00:49:27.849
- Just things you think about and you don't even know you're
- 00:49:27.849 --> 00:49:30.318
- Thinking about it.
- 00:49:30.318 --> 00:49:31.586
- If i keep a diet journal, i don't-- wouldn't even think to
- 00:49:31.586 --> 00:49:34.723
- Count, you know, some sour patch watermelons because i
- 00:49:34.723 --> 00:49:37.993
- Only ate a few of them.
- 00:49:37.993 --> 00:49:38.727
- Right? but i write them down.
- 00:49:38.727 --> 00:49:39.795
- I realize, man, those things add up.
- 00:49:39.795 --> 00:49:41.797
- Like, those add up.
- 00:49:41.797 --> 00:49:42.798
- And that same is true with your thoughts.
- 00:49:42.798 --> 00:49:44.232
- Yeah.
- 00:49:44.232 --> 00:49:45.300
- And so when you are being preventative, you're
- 00:49:45.300 --> 00:49:47.069
- Recognizing that you're in a season where your
- 00:49:47.069 --> 00:49:50.439
- Thoughts are vulnerable.
- 00:49:50.439 --> 00:49:51.640
- Yeah.
- 00:49:51.640 --> 00:49:52.607
- Like, with your family, like, there's that
- 00:49:52.607 --> 00:49:56.545
- Moment where you see, okay, i need to be intentional here to
- 00:49:56.545 --> 00:50:00.549
- Be preventative.
- 00:50:00.549 --> 00:50:01.716
- I need to to take my thoughts captive in advance. yes.
- 00:50:01.716 --> 00:50:04.820
- By the music i'm listening to.
- 00:50:04.820 --> 00:50:07.889
- Worship can do that.
- 00:50:07.889 --> 00:50:09.191
- Yeah. by tuning into a program like this.
- 00:50:09.191 --> 00:50:11.827
- Like, all of that is diet.
- 00:50:11.827 --> 00:50:13.829
- That input that you're
- 00:50:13.829 --> 00:50:15.730
- Giving your heart makes all the difference.
- 00:50:15.730 --> 00:50:18.667
- And your the verse that you
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- Quoted, god's grace is sufficient.
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- That word sufficient means, i love this word, it means always
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- Just enough.
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- Like, look at it and you're like, i don't think it's i
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- Don't think it's enough.
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- It's always just enough.
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- It never-- you think, okay.
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- It's not gonna fill up what i have going on right now, and
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- It fills it up just enough.
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- I could not--
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- Grace for the day.
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- Just grace for the day.
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- Yeah. and that thought has incredible power.
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- Yes. because if i believe that, if i believe there's grace for
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- Today, if i believe god's grace is always sufficient, it's
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- Always just enough, that means i'm not going to deal with
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- Anything today that is more than his grace can handle.
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- And so guarding your mind as philippians talks about,
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- Guarding your mind with that truth, the sufficiency of god's
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- Grace, then protects your thinking when you're going
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- Through something that you think, i can't do it,
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- It's just too much,
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- That truth gives you something to hold on to.
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- The all sufficient one.
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- Yep.
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- Every thought captive by kyle idleman.
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- The thought--
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- Thank you for this.
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- Came to us the other day.
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- Sometimes god steps into the storm and calms the storm.
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- Sometimes he steps in and calms the sailor.
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- Mhmm. and so his grace is sufficient.
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- Kyle, your final thoughts on
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- Today's subject, every thought captive.
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- You know, my final thought
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- Would be start with something simple.
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- Like it's easy to underestimate the reality of that verse in
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- Scripture that this is how we're transformed.
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- I would encourage you to test the truth and faithfulness of
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- God's word by just identifying one thought that
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- You know doesn't honor god, doesn't align with scripture,
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- Replacing it with something true from the bible and
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- Intentionally focusing on it every day and watching how he
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- Transforms your thinking.
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- It's beautiful.
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- We'll see you next time.
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- Every thought captive available now.
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- See you. bye.
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- Are your thoughts holding you captive?
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- Do fear, anxiety, or shame try to take over your life?
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- You're not alone, and freedom belongs to you.
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- The same god who made our brains, the same god who gave
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- Us science, gave us scripture that helps people recognize,
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- Okay, i'm still gonna let scripture be my foundation, but
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- I'm gonna see that this is how god made me.
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- He's the one who made my brain.
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- Here's how it works, and here's how scripture supports it.
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- In his powerful new book, every thought captive, kyle idleman
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- Reveals the spiritual and scientific truth.
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- You can renew your mind and transform your life.
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- As we align our thoughts with what god teaches, then the holy
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- Spirit brings about transformation that we can't
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- Bring on our own.
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- Learn how to break free from destructive patterns.
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- Rewire your brain with the truth of god's word and invite
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- God to bring healing to your life starting today.
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