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January 20, 2026 | S E | 54:30

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Tonight from ronald reagan's legendary ranch in
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Santa barbara, california...
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It was ronald and nancy reagan's heaven, for sure.
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Matt and lori sit down with reagan film producer mark
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Joseph for an inside look at the powerful story and
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Inspiration behind the making of the movie, including
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Exclusive clips from the film.
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Somebody that has a dream in their heart needs to read this
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Book because you had to have a tenacity that is very present
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For you to keep going and bring this amazing story to life.
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It's a good thing that when god sends us on a journey, he
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Doesn't tell us the outcome because we would just say,
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You know what? i'm going to pass.
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I got things i want to do. but he doesn't do that.
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He gives you a day at a time and you can do the day.
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Step inside the private world of president ronald reagan and
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Nancy reagan with the rare guided walk through of the
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Stunning ranch where they found peace, perspective and renewal
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During the most demanding years of the presidency.
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And we'll hear from the reagan ranch director on why
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Preserving this remarkable place matters, protecting not
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Only its beauty, but the enduring ideas and values of
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The man who built it.
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The ranch is important because of what it says about ronald
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Reagan, to learn about who they are, what motivated them,
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Better understanding their character, their values.
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And that's the reason we stepped forward to save the ranch, and
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The reason we think it is so important to bring
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Young people here today.
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It all begins right now.
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♪♪
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Well, bill, there she is,
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688 acres and all.
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That sounds about enough.
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How much are they asking?
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Too much for an honest politician.
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Well, there's nothing like stomping around in your own
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Piece of dirt, work and sweat.
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Think about your next move.
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Next move.
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No. détente, unfortunately, won't last.
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The soviets.
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They're here to stay.
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There's nothing a retired
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Governor can do about the soviets.
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Well, you got a point.
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Not much,
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But a president,
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Now he can do a thing or two.
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Rancho del sol, the ranch of
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The skies or the ranch of the heavens.
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We are in heaven. it is.
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It was ronald and nancy reagan's heaven for sure.
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And, mark, thank you for arranging all of this, that we
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Would sit outside on a beautiful day here on the patio
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That ronald reagan got these rocks, made this porch, made
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All this split rail fence.
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This is-- this was the ronald and
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Nancy reagan unplugged location.
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And what an honor it actually is.
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You made the movie, you wrote your book making reagan.
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And i want to say this, um, mark,
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I actually read your book, and i actually found it to be a
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Very deep and entertaining experience.
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Now, i hate to act surprised by that.
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I'm just saying, actually-- i just literally--
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I'm. surprised that he read it.
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I literally couldn't put it down.
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Amazing.
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And there's a, there's a line that i want to pull through.
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I want you to talk about ronald reagan, and i want you to talk
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About the making of this film,
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But you know what the deeper story for me was, is how you
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Were letting divine providence, what ronald reagan would say
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The dp, divine providence, kind of rule this.
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You had so many ups and downs, and this is a
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Two-decade journey for you.
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And i'm not joking, mark,
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I found that somebody that has a dream in their heart needs to
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Read this book, because life circumstances tried to keep
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This from happening, you know, and you had to have a tenacity
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That is very present for you to keep going and bring this
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Amazing story to life.
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So thank you, first of all, for, you know, staying at it
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And perseverance beyond. by the way, um, this is the guy, by
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The way, that created the movie.
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He's the producer of reagan and author of making reagan.
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Thank you.
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So it was always real easy, and you just kind of tiptoe through
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The tulips for 20 years, right, to make this thing?
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Well, i joked that if you have somebody in your life who wants
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To be a filmmaker, give them this book and you can
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Talk them out of it.
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That's exactly what i'm--
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Be a dentist or a doctor or something sensible.
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Um, yeah.
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I think this is, uh, it's a good thing that when god sends
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Us on a journey, he doesn't tell us the outcome because we
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Would just say, you know what? i'm going to pass.
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I got things i want to do, but he doesn't do that.
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He gives you a day at a time and you can do the day.
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And so that's part of it.
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But yeah, there was a lot of roadblocks all along the way
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And things that i didn't want to compromise.
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I didn't want to be told how to make it by a studio,
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For instance.
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I didn't want to watch that movie.
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Trust me, you don't want to watch it either.
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You know how it works.
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And so that was part of it.
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Just made it a much harder road.
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Mark, i'm proud of you for, um, writing the book, honestly.
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Meaning you didn't just kind of say, hey, i'm a good producer,
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And this thing happened.
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You questioned yourself along the way, wondered if god had
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Really kind of dp'd you into trying to make this thing.
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I found it interesting that you even were able to kind of go to
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The level of saying, am i,
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Am i full of selfish ambition?
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I think is the thing that i keyed in on and you had to let
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Go of even selfish ambition.
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Ambition is good--
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I'm quoting you from your book, but selfish ambition might have
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Gotten in the way.
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And, uh, i just found this to be a journey that,
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Yeah, we all wanted to see the film on ronald reagan.
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But the making of ronald reagan, making reagan is quite
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The journey itself.
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I think you're talking about my friend joe the charismatic.
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There it is. a friend in my life--
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You know, we all have these friends in our lives.
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And so one day i said, why am i-- what am i doing wrong here?
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Because i'm just not making the progress.
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And joe the charismatic, came back and said, he said it might
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Be selfish ambition from
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Somebody in your crew and your team.
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And i'm like, well, that's got to be me because i'm the one--
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The only guy here.
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I'm sitting at a gas station in east l.a.
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Pumping gas and looking at this, selfish ambition.
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Well, i guess it's me.
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Like, throw the guy overboard
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Like jonah, and then this will proceed.
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So it was just a good reminder, you know?
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And even in reagan's story, after he was shot-- i talked to
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Him about 55 of the guys that knew him well, including his
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Pastor, and he visited him after he was shot,
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And he said, reagan told me, i think this is like a brushback
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Pitch from god to not be so full of myself.
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He just won this big election.
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Two months later, he comes within a half an inch of death,
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And he looked at it as god humbling him and saying, hey,
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You're not all that. selfish ambition.
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Yeah. and so, uh, even then you can see that this happens in
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Our lives sometimes.
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Well, first of all, thank you for bringing out these kind of
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Deep reservoirs of kind of important matters.
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This was not something, um, that you just surface touched.
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You really go deep into what made ronald reagan and nancy
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Reagan accomplish what they did.
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And there's a there's a deep journey.
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And the the movie
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Honestly, mark, uh, great job.
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Uh, you know, the final scene shot right here.
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Just up the hill. yeah, at rancho del cielo,
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Uh, just right up behind us here was really an impactful,
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Emotional thing.
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We wanted to make sure that making reagan was available.
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Information is on the screen.
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Okay, mark, let's go inside and take a look at the kind of the
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Inner part, the inner sanctuary.
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I was going to call it the holy of holies, but that's not
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Quite it, but almost it.
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And by the way, this is ron and nancy reagan's,
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This is the the inside that very few people ever went.
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I think the queen. the queen.
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Yeah. okay, so us and the queen. let's go.
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♪♪
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Okay. the tour continues.
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Watch. let's go.
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Mark, take us, uh, all around, if you would
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Please, sir. come on in, you guys.
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Okay.
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So this is where they would hang out, watch tv, read books
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Here, and let me just show you.
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Here's a fun, fun bit of history.
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Uh, ronald reagan--
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This is the bedroom. this is the bedroom.
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Let me take you into the shower.
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You're in ronald reagan's shower.
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All right.
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So if you'll notice, uh, the shower head is the liberty
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Bell with the crack and everything.
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And he would joke that i every day i bathe myself in liberty.
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But this is the yellow, the harvest--
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Whatever you call this yellow from the 70s.
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And there's his head and shoulders shampoo up there.
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It's like he just left, you know, for the day
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And he'll be back tonight.
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I literally used that kind of shampoo.
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1970, right?
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And look at this liberty bell.
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That is awesome.
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So this is it.
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This is where he would spend his time.
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He spent, you know, a year of his eight-year presidency here.
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Let me show you the closet.
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The closet is pretty wild, too.
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It's like their clothes are
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Still all hanging here, you know?
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Here's his pants and his boots.
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And as you go in here, you'll see it's just pretty much
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Exactly like you imagine it would have been if they'd, you
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Know, if they went riding for the day
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And they're expected back any moment now.
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And then, you know, this is again so unostentatious, you
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Know, for a world leader, uh,
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Who have all these fancy places.
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Young america's foundation has preserved this exactly like
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They've left for the afternoon
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And will be back tonight. yeah.
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You know, if they hadn't purchased it, i don't know what
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Happened to this place.
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It could have been just bought up and sold.
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And one more thing.
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Uh, matt, let me show you the bed.
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So this bed is actually two single beds zip tied together,
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And they got these initials, and he's, you know, he's tall,
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So his feet would have dangled over the edge.
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There's the bench.
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That's the bench.
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Yeah. and there's--
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Somebody said something about zip tied together.
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Right. there you can literally see the zip ties.
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They are literally zip tied together.
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And, um, nancy and ronald reagan.
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Look at that.
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This must have been his side. right.
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Yeah. see, he's got this part here for his feet dangling over
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The back at the end of it.
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So this is pretty much the way, you know, it was.
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And, uh, you can just see a
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Normal person living a normal place.
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And this is where we come to get away from it all.
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Let's look around. yep.
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Can you imagine just all the conversations that happened
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Between nancy and president reagan right here in this
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Private little quarters that they had?
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It's it's unbelievable.
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And this little tv is what the president was watching, that he
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Decided to run for president of the united states.
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It is a crisis of confidence.
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Yes, jimmy, it's a crisis of confidence.
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All right.
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Are you listening to this?
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We are the greatest country in the world, and we
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Have just forgotten it.
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Like i didn't see this coming.
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It's okay to say it, ronnie.
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Okay, i'll say it.
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I want to run again.
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A lot of history there. i see that.
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He's watching president carter on tv.
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Right.
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That inspired him to, uh, to think that he had to run.
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Yeah.
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Tell me, uh, about this picture hanging on the wall here.
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There's kind of some stories of everything, but
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Let's grab this one right here.
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So here's an example of how the solitude of this place--
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So this painting was commissioned by two of reagan's
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Friends, uh, ed meese and peter hannaford.
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And when he was leaving the
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Governorship, they gave this to him.
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But neither of them knew that he was hanging it up in this
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Room because nobody came into this room, like only margaret
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Thatcher. not anybody else.
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This is their place of solitude.
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Yeah. so ed meese finds out years and years later that that
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Special painting was actually here.
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And, uh, it's just another example of-- it's not actually
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Of the ranch itself, but it was commissioned to give to the
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Governor as a present.
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Well, to even be here and
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Getting to see this part of the house,
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What a rare treat.
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One of his eight years of the presidency,
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Basically one year here out of the washington madness, right?
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There was just something about being here.
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I think he needed that solitude to function.
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To himself. he had to get away.
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So you're talking about this is the location of ronald and
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Nancy reagan unplugged.
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It's right here in this room.
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And you had the same problems with the remote control that
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We all have.
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You know, there's actually instructions for how to work
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The remote control for him and nancy.
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So same problems we all--
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All three channels that were
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Available here in the mountains, yeah.
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They were big back then.
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You had to press. you know, it wasn't like today.
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Yeah. so but really remote,
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Hard to find.
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Just a lot like him. yeah.
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So many interesting things here.
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You know, it's such a small place, right?
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The queen of england would come, gorbachev would come
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And go, this is it?
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The great american president is living in adobe in the middle
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Of the hillside?
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They were expecting a palace of some kind.
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Yeah, he liked the simplicity for
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Some reason. i love it.
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Beautiful. wow.
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A lot of history in this room.
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Interesting this dp dynamic started with a traffic ticket.
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Right.
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So because mark got a traffic--
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Because you were apparently just speeding through a little
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Town in-- illinois. yeah.
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Okay. so start with the speeding ticket.
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If i can just
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Set the stage, i'm there with my 3 or 4, i think four
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Daughters under the age of 6 or 7.
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And we're on a family trip somewhere for a wedding of some
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Sort, and i'm in a minivan, so i'm not racing around town and
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I'm pulled over for speeding.
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And the officer, his hands were shaking.
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I noticed that it's first day on the job and he says, you're
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You're a 20 miles over the speed limit.
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This is not just a normal ticket.
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You have to appear in court, in
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Person, and not to be a wise guy,
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But i can't come back a month from now.
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Can i just pay it and be gone? oh, no.
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This is a very serious matter.
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So i look at his ticket and, uh, he said, well, maybe
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Tomorrow you can come in, but you gotta spend the night here.
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I was thinking the last seinfeld episode where they all
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End up in jail, and i'm like, i'm living out that episode.
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But anyway, um, i looked at his ticket and it says, you must
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Appear in court in dixon, illinois.
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I had unknowingly been driving through ronald reagan's
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Hometown, so i've got a day to kill.
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Uh, and there isn't a lot in dixon at the time.
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I saw a gas station, a holiday inn and a pizza hut, and, you
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Know, not a lot.
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Uh, but i had a day to kill, and that's when i think it
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Just kind of hit me.
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Like you're supposed to make a movie about him, and you're
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Stuck here against my will.
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So i go before the judge the next day, my poor four little
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Daughters in the front row watching me before the judge
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And the, uh, they appoint you a kind of a council, you
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Know, to help you. and so he says,
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Listen, um, if you say not guilty, um, you can be
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Put in jail until the trial.
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And i'm-- this is surreal, right?
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Seinfeld episode. exactly.
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So i'm thinking i'm going to-- my poor daughters
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Watching me being hauled off.
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And so i said, uh, i said, your honor, can i please show you a
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Video of what happens when i go the speed limit?
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Because i'd taken a little-- and he just looks at me.
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He says, son, i'm not going to watch your video.
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Guilty or innocent?
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Not guilty.
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So i thought about it for one second, looked at my daughter
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In the front row and said, guilty, your honor.
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Paid my $500 fine, and that's where it all started.
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So it was sort of against my will.
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So dp got you ticketed in the little hometown of
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Ronald reagan, right?
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And that started this whole 20 year journey.
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Yeah, that started right there.
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I came back to la and i kind of began to research reagan movie.
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What would it take?
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And so i optioned a book by an author named paul kengor, who'd
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Written a great book on reagan.
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That's where the whole journey started.
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So thanks to that officer and to
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Dixon for the $500-- my aunt gave me--
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Heard about the fine and gave me the money.
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So it all ended up-- it all ended up good.
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But yeah, taking a bad circumstance and that god
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Worked it for good.
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You know, i think that's everybody's journey.
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And i think that drive and that destiny and purpose that a lot
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Of people feel, um, to do something great,
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Um, i think we all have that.
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And then there's those days that you question, did i really
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Hear from the lord?
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Am i really supposed to be doing this because it doesn't
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Look good for me right now?
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And i think those are the most precious moments for us,
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Because they made our passion to stand in faith, to keep
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Going, to persevere, all the things that god is trying to do
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On the inside of us so that he gets the glory and not us.
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I mean, you could have given up
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So many times. you went through covid.
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Yeah.
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You know, the film was stuck in never neverland.
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Right? for a long time.
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Yeah. when you see dennis and penelope are two actors kissing
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In the hospital scene, that's actually the moment of covid
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Transmission from one to the other.
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The last day of shooting, so we were literally out--
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When you watch that scene now,
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You'll get a different impression.
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But, um, yeah, so many roadblocks along the way.
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But you're right, it is about destiny and purpose.
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And, you know, um, reagan story is not the perfect man.
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I mean, he has so many ups and downs in his life.
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And there's a scene in the film where he sits with his mom when
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He's about 50 years old and he says, mom, you said i was gonna
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Be somebody great, but i'm washed up.
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I'm divorced.
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My acting career is over.
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Like what happened?
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And she gives him some words of encouragement.
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But yeah, it's not the story of a perfect person and we all
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Can identify, right?
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We've all had those moments where, like, i think i missed
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The mark in my life.
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And, um, you know, we were talking earlier, matt, about
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Just about purpose and destiny, and all of us have something
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We're put on the planet to do, but we have to find it.
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And god guides along the way.
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But whether it's an important job or not, the world considers
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It important or not--
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You might be a plumber or a janitor or whatever, but you're
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There for that purpose, and you have to find that.
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So the kitchen is back over this way. right.
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Yeah. so if you remember in the movie, this is where we shot
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The scene of ron and nancy talking about, should he run for
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President or not?
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And this is literally exactly the way it was in the 70s.
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And i think you all grew up with this harvest gold in our
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In our parents' kitchens, right?
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Cabinets. and formica.
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Nothing has changed.
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It's just they've kept it in the fridge.
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You know, it's the same, same 70s decor.
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But this is where they would have had those conversations.
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And you're suggesting those are the spices that were
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Here when when nancy and ronald were here.
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Look at the osterizer.
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I mean, you know, we've all seen those, but, you know, this
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Is where, uh, she, uh, you know, he says, i want to run
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Again, and she says, i'm behind you.
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And, uh, so it was really eerie, you know, when
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Dennis came here,
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Um, he said, i've got to do this movie because he really
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Felt reagan's spirit in this whole place.
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That was the final, uh, decision for him to do it.
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So this is where it all happened.
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Okay, now let's go around to
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The other part of the house here.
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You know, mark, a lot of filmmakers would have stopped
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At, tear down that wall! and the
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The great victory of the berlin wall.
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But you chose to go ahead and go on to president reagan's
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Alzheimer's story and his last horse ride, which i think we
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Were all in tears about.
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I was too. um, that's kind of the anti cowboy hero story,
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Where usually the cowboy rides off into the sunset and
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His heroic moment.
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But this was the opposite of that.
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He's riding off into his
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Weakness, ultimately to his death.
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Yeah, because that's where it all began.
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But i wanted to show, you know,
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The part of our journey as humans.
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We're weak.
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We're going to die one day.
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We're going to lose our mind, maybe at the end.
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And that's part of the journey.
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It's not just a perfect life story.
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I know what you're saying, john,
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But i'm not going to do it.
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Ma'am, i need you to tell him we can't do this anymore.
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I can't, i can't, i can't do it.
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He got lost yesterday.
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I couldn't find him for half an hour.
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Horses know when a rider doesn't know what he's doing.
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Okay? he's--
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He's gonna get thrown again.
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I can't tell him that
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He can't ride anymore.
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He loves it too much.
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Please.
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Okay.
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He loves you more, ma'am.
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Mr. president.
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What is it, john?
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You know, uh,
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I don't think we're having as much fun riding as we used to.
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Uh, the agent taunton--
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Uh, well, mrs. reagan, she is--
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What do you want, john?
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Mr. president, i don't--
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I don't think we should ride anymore.
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Oh.
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One more ride.
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Yes, sir, mr. president.
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What i found interesting about making reagan is that a lot of
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Times, younger people, uh, would think if they start
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Pursuing something and then they hit a big roadblock that
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Is just over, and then they doubt and they give up, and man,
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If you need someone to hear about the ups, the downs, the
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Sideways, the spin arounds, the detours,
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Uh, wow.
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Great job on that.
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And there's a there's a little bit of, uh, what i'm reading
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In on page 62,
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I'll quote you.
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You're from socal, right?
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Yeah.
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Originally japan, but by way of japan.
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Okay. and by the way, uh, mark joseph used to watch
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Real videos in japan.
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So, you know-- on a vhs bootleg tape.
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But laurie looked good though. yeah.
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She did.
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Uh, on page 62 of making reagan, i heard a tv preacher
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Once say that god sometimes allows things not to come
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Through until the very last moment.
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My dad's story, the five minutes. you know, not out of
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Some desire to torture us, but to remind us that it is he
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Who is in control.
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And if that were the case, mission accomplished.
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So this was a grind.
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Let's say it that way.
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Covid. a complete strike-- actor strike.
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Actor strike in the industry.
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So not only did you meet every
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Wannabe producer along the way,
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Wannabe financier along the way,
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Not only did you have all that stuff--
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There's a lot of fake ones, you know.
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You probably met them all.
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I've met the majority of them.
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Couple thousand. [laughter]
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And, uh, it just-- it's a story of perseverance.
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I want to say,
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Uh, you refer to the dp, divine providence, and that you got
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That from ronald reagan.
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But, uh, near the back of the book,
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I go along with the notion that each of us has something in
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Life that we're supposed to do, and with divine help and
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Guidance, we can achieve it.
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This was a chapter, a big chapter of your life.
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And, what did it do for you?
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What did making this movie,
00:27:01.876 --> 00:27:04.079
What did interfacing with 55 of ronald reagan's really top
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:10.952
Advisers and people--
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You got into the inner circle there of what that was.
00:27:12.120 --> 00:27:16.324
Uh, you met ronald reagan personally.
00:27:16.324 --> 00:27:18.960
What did it do for you?
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:20.428
What did this journey do in mark joseph?
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That's a great question.
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I think, uh, i learned so much from so many people.
00:27:25.066 --> 00:27:29.170
And, uh, you know, reagan had an official biographer named
00:27:29.170 --> 00:27:32.640
Edmund morris who was hired to write the official story, and
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:36.144
Edmund morris threw up his hands and says, i find him
00:27:36.144 --> 00:27:37.879
Inscrutable, and kind of gave up and made it a half fiction,
00:27:37.879 --> 00:27:41.282
Half real story.
00:27:41.282 --> 00:27:42.550
So i was really cognizant of that, like his own biographer
00:27:42.550 --> 00:27:45.754
Can't figure him out.
00:27:45.754 --> 00:27:47.155
So i've got to follow this trail of breadcrumbs and talk
00:27:47.155 --> 00:27:49.724
To all these people and hear all their different stories.
00:27:49.724 --> 00:27:52.894
And so it was really a combination.
00:27:52.894 --> 00:27:54.395
I used lines in movie that i stole from one of his guys
00:27:54.395 --> 00:27:57.832
That would tell me something about about him.
00:27:57.832 --> 00:28:00.335
What he did for me, i think,
00:28:00.335 --> 00:28:01.669
I think it is ultimately to score a story of perseverance,
00:28:01.669 --> 00:28:04.939
Um, that we have a lot of--
00:28:04.939 --> 00:28:06.975
Reagan had a lot of, like, half successes in his life.
00:28:06.975 --> 00:28:10.011
Wow. he was a okay radio broadcaster, an okay actor,
00:28:10.011 --> 00:28:14.082
Not the greatest.
00:28:14.082 --> 00:28:15.650
And yet he--
00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:16.718
That was all training.
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That was all--
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All those jobs were just a training for what he had to do.
00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:21.756
Later, he would have to know how to negotiate.
00:28:21.756 --> 00:28:24.259
So he learned, as the head of
00:28:24.259 --> 00:28:25.360
The screen actors guild, how to negotiate.
00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:27.428
He had to learn how to be on camera,
00:28:27.428 --> 00:28:28.530
So he learned that as an actor.
00:28:28.530 --> 00:28:29.831
So all these things were not, they were not the destination.
00:28:29.831 --> 00:28:32.000
They were just part of the journey, if that makes sense.
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.269
And so all these experiences that we get that god gives us
00:28:34.269 --> 00:28:37.172
Are just part of the preparation for what we're
00:28:37.172 --> 00:28:39.340
Supposed to do eventually.
00:28:39.340 --> 00:28:56.424
These are all his books, exactly the way he
00:28:59.761 --> 00:29:01.329
Would have left them.
00:29:01.329 --> 00:29:02.597
And you can kind of see a wide variety of topics.
00:29:02.597 --> 00:29:05.500
You know, um, a lot of gifts he got from people, but, uh, he
00:29:05.500 --> 00:29:09.604
Liked cowboy, you know, those old cowboy novels and, um,
00:29:09.604 --> 00:29:13.975
So, yeah, this is it.
00:29:13.975 --> 00:29:15.343
This is the way it was. that's it.
00:29:15.343 --> 00:29:18.413
This is amazing, actually.
00:29:18.413 --> 00:29:20.248
And a lot of these things, you can kind of see who he is.
00:29:20.248 --> 00:29:25.620
Look at five years to freedom.
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Uh- huh.
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People will not give their lives for power or a state
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Or even ideology.
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People give their lives for one another,
00:29:40.235 --> 00:29:44.639
For the freedom to live those
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Lives as they choose and for god.
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We took that away.
00:29:52.547 --> 00:29:54.015
The crusader.
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Give it back to them.
00:29:59.654 --> 00:30:07.061
Okay, mark.
00:30:09.831 --> 00:30:11.032
This, uh, played a really prominent role in the film.
00:30:11.032 --> 00:30:15.303
That printer of udell's.
00:30:15.303 --> 00:30:17.272
That exact book.
00:30:17.272 --> 00:30:18.406
Tell me a little more about that.
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This is a seminole moment in his life.
00:30:20.208 --> 00:30:22.277
So he finds his dad drunk in the snow at 11 and a half.
00:30:22.277 --> 00:30:25.813
His mother realizes, i've got to do something for this kid or
00:30:25.813 --> 00:30:27.849
He's gonna end up like dad.
00:30:27.849 --> 00:30:29.217
She's very devout, so she--
00:30:29.217 --> 00:30:31.219
I think she goes to the
00:30:31.219 --> 00:30:32.220
Preacher and says, what can i do?
00:30:32.220 --> 00:30:33.688
And somehow they come up with this book.
00:30:33.688 --> 00:30:35.657
One of them suggests it, and
00:30:35.657 --> 00:30:36.858
They give it to young ronald reagan.
00:30:36.858 --> 00:30:38.593
The story is the story of a young son of an alcoholic who
00:30:38.593 --> 00:30:42.130
Finds-- who grows up, finds god,
00:30:42.130 --> 00:30:44.432
And becomes a united states congressman.
00:30:44.432 --> 00:30:46.668
It's literally ronald reagan's life, except for
00:30:46.668 --> 00:30:48.069
The congressman part.
00:30:48.069 --> 00:30:49.070
Senator, i think it was. yeah.
00:30:49.070 --> 00:30:50.471
Anyway, so he reads the book.
00:30:50.471 --> 00:30:51.706
He goes to his mom and the
00:30:51.706 --> 00:30:52.774
Preacher says, i want to be baptized.
00:30:52.774 --> 00:30:54.509
Preacher says, you got to wait six months till you're
00:30:54.509 --> 00:30:56.678
12 because it's disciples of christ.
00:30:56.678 --> 00:30:58.112
And you got to wait till you're 12.
00:30:58.112 --> 00:30:59.614
He says, sir, i have to.
00:30:59.614 --> 00:31:00.782
I can't wait.
00:31:00.782 --> 00:31:01.749
So they make a special exemption for him.
00:31:01.749 --> 00:31:03.184
He gets baptized at 11.5.
00:31:03.184 --> 00:31:05.019
So ronald reagan finds himself in this, in this story.
00:31:05.019 --> 00:31:08.623
It's literally his future.
00:31:08.623 --> 00:31:10.291
Mine is hollywood.
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Hollywood wasn't in here.
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:12.527
That was the detour.
00:31:12.527 --> 00:31:13.761
But it was,
00:31:13.761 --> 00:31:15.029
Son of an alcoholic becomes a sunday school teacher, then
00:31:15.029 --> 00:31:18.199
Goes off to congress.
00:31:18.199 --> 00:31:19.634
And this would have been an example of what ronald reagan
00:31:19.634 --> 00:31:23.137
Would call dp.
00:31:23.137 --> 00:31:24.372
He was always talking about the dp.
00:31:24.372 --> 00:31:26.274
That comes from mom. okay.
00:31:26.274 --> 00:31:27.542
Who's listening to radio,
00:31:27.542 --> 00:31:28.676
You know, radio teachers, radio preachers.
00:31:28.676 --> 00:31:31.512
And so this is-- this may actually be the book.
00:31:31.512 --> 00:31:34.048
There's-- not quite sure, but it looked exactly like this.
00:31:34.048 --> 00:31:36.417
This is from, i think, 1905.
00:31:36.417 --> 00:31:38.019
And look, this is not like john steinbeck.
00:31:38.019 --> 00:31:40.054
This is a run-of- the-mill writer,
00:31:40.054 --> 00:31:42.590
Uh, who just--
00:31:42.590 --> 00:31:43.858
Christian fiction.
00:31:43.858 --> 00:31:44.792
Christian fiction who wrote this book.
00:31:44.792 --> 00:31:46.427
Little did he know that it would have the
00:31:46.427 --> 00:31:48.329
Impact it did.
00:31:48.329 --> 00:31:49.230
The power of a praying mother. yeah.
00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:52.200
And this divine providence, this dp that
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.571
Ronald reagan would talk about plays a big role in his life.
00:31:56.571 --> 00:32:01.476
He saw that god was orchestrating things.
00:32:01.476 --> 00:32:05.747
You know, i sat across from mikhail gorbachev for two days
00:32:05.747 --> 00:32:09.350
And interviewed him and got mikhail gorbachev to admit that
00:32:09.350 --> 00:32:15.189
It was ronald reagan and him that god was using to bring
00:32:15.189 --> 00:32:20.928
An end to the cold war.
00:32:20.928 --> 00:32:23.131
The first step toward a brighter future, a safer world.
00:32:23.131 --> 00:32:28.536
Do you believe that there was god's providence in all of this
00:32:28.536 --> 00:32:34.475
Taking place, being at the right place, reagan coming?
00:32:34.475 --> 00:32:38.312
Was this god's providence to make happen for my generation?
00:32:38.312 --> 00:32:49.223
Mr. gorbachev, your actions as general secretary of the soviet
00:32:52.860 --> 00:32:56.864
Union at the time would suggest very clearly that you
00:32:56.864 --> 00:33:00.535
Believe in god.
00:33:00.535 --> 00:33:02.537
Do you?
00:33:02.537 --> 00:33:04.639
Yes. yes.
00:33:04.639 --> 00:33:10.511
The dp that was happening there, according to ronald
00:33:14.015 --> 00:33:19.353
Reagan, dp, divine providence, started when he was shot.
00:33:19.353 --> 00:33:23.925
He feels like he has a mission to accomplish and he needed to
00:33:23.925 --> 00:33:29.363
End the cold war.
00:33:29.363 --> 00:33:32.300
My mother used to say, everything in life happens
00:33:32.300 --> 00:33:35.770
For a reason.
00:33:35.770 --> 00:33:37.305
Even the most disheartening setbacks. and in the end,
00:33:37.305 --> 00:33:41.776
Everything, even seemingly random twists of fate, is all
00:33:41.776 --> 00:33:46.547
A part of the divine plan.
00:33:46.547 --> 00:34:05.399
Get him out.
00:34:08.169 --> 00:34:11.272
It's interesting you did the one side of the story.
00:34:09.036 --> 00:34:14.175
I spent two days with mikhail gorbachev and got the other
00:34:14.175 --> 00:34:17.278
Side of the story and sat with pavel, their interpreter, that
00:34:17.278 --> 00:34:21.382
Said everything back and forth from ronald reagan and mikhail
00:34:21.382 --> 00:34:24.285
Gorbachev, and literally both
00:34:24.285 --> 00:34:28.623
Of them ended up in the same place.
00:34:28.623 --> 00:34:31.192
God in his divine providence, the dp of god, used ronald
00:34:31.192 --> 00:34:36.764
Reagan and mikhail gorbachev to bring an end to the cold war.
00:34:36.764 --> 00:34:39.934
Gorbachev's grandmother was a
00:34:39.934 --> 00:34:40.935
Very, very devout christian woman.
00:34:40.935 --> 00:34:42.537
Very so.
00:34:42.537 --> 00:34:43.671
So we have a line in the film where reagan says, your
00:34:43.671 --> 00:34:45.573
Grandmother, my mother might have been good friends if
00:34:45.573 --> 00:34:47.408
They'd known each other, but yeah, there's something going
00:34:47.408 --> 00:34:49.510
On there that we can't quite explain.
00:34:49.510 --> 00:34:51.579
And that is the dp. reagan and clark, as they
00:34:51.579 --> 00:34:54.649
Would often say, the deep--
00:34:54.649 --> 00:34:55.850
They would have a shorthand.
00:34:55.850 --> 00:34:56.984
They'd say, that's the dp, that's the dp.
00:34:56.984 --> 00:34:58.519
So there was definitely a feeling like there was
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.254
Something bigger going on there in their minds. you know,
00:35:00.254 --> 00:35:03.257
And to think that ronald reagan found himself in that printer
00:35:03.257 --> 00:35:09.163
Of udell's, a christian, nominally-selling christian
00:35:09.163 --> 00:35:14.068
Author fiction story, largely, uh, changed the trajectory
00:35:14.068 --> 00:35:19.340
Of his entire life.
00:35:19.340 --> 00:35:20.975
His name was harold bell wright, and later reagan wrote
00:35:20.975 --> 00:35:23.911
A letter to his kids after he had passed away and thanked the
00:35:23.911 --> 00:35:26.881
Kids for their dad's book that he had.
00:35:26.881 --> 00:35:28.382
So he carried-- all his life, he carried it with him.
00:35:28.382 --> 00:35:30.751
Wow. that's such the the movie producer, the
00:35:30.751 --> 00:35:35.289
Good stuff of a movie producer, to find some kind of really
00:35:35.289 --> 00:35:40.194
Interesting story. good job on that.
00:35:40.194 --> 00:35:42.697
You know, a friend of mine who's a religion columnist says
00:35:42.697 --> 00:35:44.565
Religion is the ghost in everyone's story.
00:35:44.565 --> 00:35:47.134
That's often the catalyst in our lives that a trigger.
00:35:47.134 --> 00:35:50.838
And without this book, who
00:35:50.838 --> 00:35:52.373
Knows what his life would have been.
00:35:52.373 --> 00:35:53.641
If you just tuned in,
00:35:53.641 --> 00:35:55.076
Uh, we're standing in rancho de cielo, which is the ranch
00:35:55.076 --> 00:35:59.413
In the clouds.
00:35:59.413 --> 00:36:00.514
It's really ranch in the heavens.
00:36:00.514 --> 00:36:01.949
Heavens. that's right.
00:36:01.949 --> 00:36:02.783
It is.
00:36:02.783 --> 00:36:03.351
It is more heavens.
00:36:03.351 --> 00:36:04.218
That's right.
00:36:04.218 --> 00:36:05.152
Mark, thank you
00:36:05.152 --> 00:36:05.987
For what this is.
00:36:05.987 --> 00:36:07.888
This is a-- you know, thank you for the book.
00:36:07.888 --> 00:36:10.791
Thank you for the movie.
00:36:10.791 --> 00:36:12.326
Uh, a lot of people really care about this.
00:36:12.326 --> 00:36:15.096
And some of these interesting little points like this
00:36:15.096 --> 00:36:17.265
Make it really intriguing. great job.
00:36:17.265 --> 00:36:19.100
All these people in our lives,
00:36:19.100 --> 00:36:20.401
You know, the guy who wrote the book, the mother, the preacher,
00:36:20.401 --> 00:36:23.738
The radio preachers or influencing the mother, all
00:36:23.738 --> 00:36:26.274
These people, you don't know who's at your dinner table.
00:36:26.274 --> 00:36:28.809
You know who's in your class.
00:36:28.809 --> 00:36:30.544
Yeah. you just don't know.
00:36:30.544 --> 00:36:31.979
And there's going to be
00:36:31.979 --> 00:36:32.880
A ronald reagan in there somewhere.
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:38.886
So this is the secret service
00:36:41.989 --> 00:36:43.824
Hangout place.
00:36:43.824 --> 00:36:45.459
And so reagan and nancy are down at the house,
00:36:45.459 --> 00:36:47.561
And they all-- the agents are all up here.
00:36:47.561 --> 00:36:49.463
Yeah. sometimes reagan would call up and go, fellas, can i
00:36:49.463 --> 00:36:51.299
Come up and watch the movies
00:36:51.299 --> 00:36:52.099
With you and bring some popcorn?
00:36:52.099 --> 00:36:53.401
So he'd come up and hang out with them.
00:36:53.401 --> 00:36:55.202
But this is where-- it's really stayed
00:36:55.202 --> 00:36:56.837
Exactly the same as it was way back when.
00:36:56.837 --> 00:36:59.006
In fact, there's actually an 80s football game going on.
00:36:59.006 --> 00:37:02.143
You can hear the sound of it.
00:37:02.143 --> 00:37:04.245
And, uh, you know, the old coke machine, it's all just the way
00:37:04.245 --> 00:37:07.148
It was back then.
00:37:07.148 --> 00:37:08.049
Rodney peete, look at that.
00:37:08.049 --> 00:37:11.052
Yeah, we've we've gone back 40 years in time.
00:37:11.052 --> 00:37:13.954
Look at that.
00:37:13.954 --> 00:37:14.989
And, uh, let me show you around.
00:37:14.989 --> 00:37:16.524
Over here is where the agents
00:37:16.524 --> 00:37:17.792
Would all have their meals here.
00:37:17.792 --> 00:37:20.728
And then they would all kind of have their different
00:37:20.728 --> 00:37:23.164
Stations back here.
00:37:23.164 --> 00:37:25.599
That's what he loved to do when he was here.
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:27.702
Yeah. so back here is where they would all have
00:37:27.702 --> 00:37:31.005
Their various stations.
00:37:31.005 --> 00:37:33.074
Um, you see, there's maps to make sure that they know what's
00:37:33.074 --> 00:37:36.377
Happening where, where the helicopters take off from.
00:37:36.377 --> 00:37:39.814
And there's obviously a danger because the pacific ocean
00:37:39.814 --> 00:37:41.716
Is right there.
00:37:41.716 --> 00:37:42.917
So you want to protect the president from some kind of
00:37:42.917 --> 00:37:45.186
Terrorist attack or something like that.
00:37:45.186 --> 00:37:48.055
And here's you know, where the the agents would have their
00:37:48.055 --> 00:37:52.093
Offices as an example.
00:37:52.093 --> 00:37:54.195
And you can kind of see the
00:37:54.195 --> 00:37:56.397
Phones are from the era as well.
00:37:56.397 --> 00:38:00.000
Look. and um, yeah.
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.036
And, and i'm looking out the window here.
00:38:02.036 --> 00:38:05.239
Right.
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:06.240
To the residence is, is kind of right there.
00:38:06.240 --> 00:38:08.676
And i mean, it's not 300 yards down.
00:38:08.676 --> 00:38:11.679
There's a calendar, august '87.
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.448
So we're literally october. yeah.
00:38:14.448 --> 00:38:16.350
Look. back in the day. um, next door here is where,
00:38:16.350 --> 00:38:20.888
Uh, john barletta, who was in the movie, one of his favorite
00:38:20.888 --> 00:38:25.459
Agents would set up shop here.
00:38:25.459 --> 00:38:28.596
And so you can see--
00:38:28.596 --> 00:38:29.797
Great picture.
00:38:29.797 --> 00:38:30.998
Look at that. yeah.
00:38:30.998 --> 00:38:32.032
Isn't that great?
00:38:32.032 --> 00:38:33.033
We created that same look with with dennis.
00:38:33.033 --> 00:38:35.369
So this would be where, uh, where john would hang out and
00:38:35.369 --> 00:38:38.973
You can see there's a letter in the typewriter, uh, to john
00:38:38.973 --> 00:38:43.010
Commending him for something he did.
00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:44.545
Here's his business card and his gloves just, you know,
00:38:44.545 --> 00:38:48.649
Time stood still here. wow.
00:38:48.649 --> 00:38:50.751
So we're talking literal western white house.
00:38:50.751 --> 00:38:54.288
Right. because it had to have secret service detail.
00:38:54.288 --> 00:38:58.459
They had to have topography maps.
00:38:58.459 --> 00:39:01.228
They had to be able to kind of make sure the leader of the
00:39:01.228 --> 00:39:05.666
Free world was taken care of while he was unplugged here at--
00:39:05.666 --> 00:39:09.870
And it's the middle of the cold war.
00:39:09.870 --> 00:39:11.572
So, you know, they have to be thinking of what
00:39:11.572 --> 00:39:14.708
Would the soviets do?
00:39:14.708 --> 00:39:15.776
What could they do?
00:39:15.776 --> 00:39:16.877
Here's where you get the full view of everything.
00:39:16.877 --> 00:39:19.447
So the agents could watch nancy
00:39:19.447 --> 00:39:21.715
Or ron or what's going on and, uh.
00:39:21.715 --> 00:39:24.418
Yeah.
00:39:24.418 --> 00:39:24.985
Okay, check it out.
00:39:24.985 --> 00:39:26.620
The classic red phone.
00:39:26.620 --> 00:39:28.989
Can you imagine?
00:39:28.989 --> 00:39:30.691
Push the ring and, uh, literally look at this.
00:39:30.691 --> 00:39:36.363
The view to the residence.
00:39:36.363 --> 00:39:38.699
If you recall from our movie, when he takes that last horse
00:39:38.699 --> 00:39:41.335
Ride, the agents all know what's going on.
00:39:41.335 --> 00:39:43.704
And so they all kind of look up from their stations and see him
00:39:43.704 --> 00:39:47.408
On that last horse ride.
00:39:47.408 --> 00:39:48.609
And it's a really emotional moment.
00:39:48.609 --> 00:39:49.810
So that all happened right here
00:39:49.810 --> 00:39:51.645
Where we shot it.
00:39:51.645 --> 00:39:53.013
So not only did the movie reagan kind of tell the real
00:39:53.013 --> 00:39:58.185
Story, you got to literally shoot it in the actual place
00:39:58.185 --> 00:40:03.123
That it happened.
00:40:03.123 --> 00:40:04.425
We're standing right now in the secret service headquarters--
00:40:04.425 --> 00:40:08.729
That's right.
00:40:08.729 --> 00:40:09.563
That remained.
00:40:09.563 --> 00:40:10.831
There was a lot more buildings around at the real time, but
00:40:10.831 --> 00:40:14.301
They left this, and secret service was able to keep
00:40:14.301 --> 00:40:17.938
An eye on the residence.
00:40:17.938 --> 00:40:20.407
And, uh, rancho del cielo, uh, was kept safe by the guys
00:40:20.407 --> 00:40:25.779
In this room.
00:40:25.779 --> 00:40:27.081
You know, one time when reagan was shooting at some birds that
00:40:27.081 --> 00:40:30.150
Were causing problems, they heard the gunshots and they
00:40:30.150 --> 00:40:33.687
Came rushing down because they didn't--
00:40:33.687 --> 00:40:35.523
They thought it was an assassination attempt.
00:40:35.523 --> 00:40:37.324
And they find him with this gun, and he turns around and
00:40:37.324 --> 00:40:39.493
Says, oh, hi, fellas.
00:40:39.493 --> 00:40:40.761
And they said, please, sir, please don't do that anymore.
00:40:40.761 --> 00:40:43.030
Yeah. so they were on-- but sometimes he would-- he knew
00:40:43.030 --> 00:40:45.866
They were here and kind of bored.
00:40:45.866 --> 00:40:48.235
So he would call up and say, can i come up and bring a
00:40:48.235 --> 00:40:50.771
Movie up and let's watch it together with some popcorn?
00:40:50.771 --> 00:40:52.606
So he'd come up and hang out with him here.
00:40:52.606 --> 00:40:54.408
Look at this.
00:40:54.408 --> 00:40:55.709
And look at, look at the, uh, look at this technology, this
00:40:55.709 --> 00:41:00.281
Level of technology that existed back in the day.
00:41:00.281 --> 00:41:04.285
A portable emergency transceiver, operation
00:41:04.285 --> 00:41:08.822
Maintenance and manual for motorola.
00:41:08.822 --> 00:41:11.759
Um, my goodness.
00:41:11.759 --> 00:41:13.827
Yeah. and as we were talking about earlier, this is the
00:41:13.827 --> 00:41:15.930
Middle of the cold war, so they have to really be on
00:41:15.930 --> 00:41:18.933
Their game because who knows?
00:41:18.933 --> 00:41:20.501
The pacific ocean is right there.
00:41:20.501 --> 00:41:22.570
So you got to really be mindful somebody's going to stage a
00:41:22.570 --> 00:41:25.039
Little assassination attempt or an invasion of some kind.
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:27.775
Who knew?
00:41:27.775 --> 00:41:28.943
So, uh, this isn't a set.
00:41:28.943 --> 00:41:32.680
This was exactly the way it was.
00:41:32.680 --> 00:41:35.849
You got to utilize this.
00:41:35.849 --> 00:41:38.185
We also shot on the real air force one.
00:41:38.185 --> 00:41:40.087
Yeah, on the real airplane
00:41:40.087 --> 00:41:41.221
That's there at the reagan library.
00:41:41.221 --> 00:41:42.523
So we try to be as authentic as possible.
00:41:42.523 --> 00:41:44.692
Yeah, we got a we got a chance, as you know, to sit down with
00:41:44.692 --> 00:41:47.795
Dennis there in front of the 707 there at the reagan center.
00:41:47.795 --> 00:41:53.834
And that was-- you know, as authentic as it could be,
00:41:53.834 --> 00:41:58.606
You got as a film producer making reagan
00:41:58.606 --> 00:42:01.675
You got to-- you got to shoot in the actual location.
00:42:01.675 --> 00:42:05.446
Yeah. it's the only time-- all other movies with the
00:42:05.446 --> 00:42:07.514
Air force one it's a set.
00:42:07.514 --> 00:42:08.949
So that was the real one the first time in a film because it
00:42:08.949 --> 00:42:11.752
Was covid, it was shut down, so we had to run of the place.
00:42:11.752 --> 00:42:15.522
That is so awesome, i love this.
00:42:15.522 --> 00:42:19.526
Let me show you the supply room.
00:42:22.630 --> 00:42:23.931
Okay. here's the supply room.
00:42:23.931 --> 00:42:26.133
Yeah. supply room.
00:42:26.133 --> 00:42:28.068
Yeah. so here you've got--
00:42:28.068 --> 00:42:30.204
Now this is your-- i hear you like guns.
00:42:30.204 --> 00:42:32.573
Okay. you have an appreciation for arms.
00:42:32.573 --> 00:42:34.675
Maybe. so here you go.
00:42:34.675 --> 00:42:36.110
This is the stuff that they would have accessed, have
00:42:36.110 --> 00:42:38.779
24-hour access to in case of an assassination attempt.
00:42:38.779 --> 00:42:42.916
He was shot at-- or there were about three
00:42:42.916 --> 00:42:45.052
Assassination attempts on reagan.
00:42:45.052 --> 00:42:46.820
The one we know about, there was two others.
00:42:46.820 --> 00:42:48.756
Um, so they always had to be mindful of that.
00:42:48.756 --> 00:42:52.660
So in review, the residence down here, that would have been
00:42:52.660 --> 00:42:59.500
Nancy's domain.
00:42:59.500 --> 00:43:00.934
Right. and then when, uh, the president wanted to hang out
00:43:00.934 --> 00:43:04.738
With some guys--
00:43:04.738 --> 00:43:05.973
Come up here.
00:43:05.973 --> 00:43:07.174
He'd come right up here, and let me lead the way over.
00:43:07.174 --> 00:43:09.743
Let's go backwards and, uh, and go back towards the tv,
00:43:09.743 --> 00:43:14.248
Because, you know, isn't it funny?
00:43:14.248 --> 00:43:16.817
We've even lost laurie.
00:43:16.817 --> 00:43:18.252
So it's kind of like this is where he would lose nancy.
00:43:18.252 --> 00:43:21.188
Yeah. guys, we somehow have lost laurie.
00:43:21.188 --> 00:43:24.024
I don't know where she went, but, uh, back in the day, this
00:43:24.024 --> 00:43:28.762
Would have been filled with secret service guys.
00:43:28.762 --> 00:43:32.199
And just like the period of time, we're watching a
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:37.938
A 40 year old football game on tv.
00:43:37.938 --> 00:43:41.008
And so the president of the united states, um, probably
00:43:41.008 --> 00:43:45.012
Seated here, uh, watching football with the guys.
00:43:45.012 --> 00:43:50.684
Why don't we go ahead and sit
00:43:50.684 --> 00:43:51.652
Down and, uh, you, uh, you play ronald.
00:43:51.652 --> 00:43:56.690
You knew him better.
00:43:56.690 --> 00:43:58.058
Uh, and, uh, give me a play by play of the of the
00:43:58.058 --> 00:44:01.895
Football game here.
00:44:01.895 --> 00:44:02.696
It's interesting.
00:44:02.696 --> 00:44:03.964
That's how he got his start, you know, was broadcasting, uh,
00:44:03.964 --> 00:44:06.600
Baseball games and sporting events.
00:44:06.600 --> 00:44:08.535
And one time he would read the the teletype and act as if
00:44:08.535 --> 00:44:12.906
He had that the game.
00:44:12.906 --> 00:44:14.274
Yeah. well, one time the teletype broke, so he didn't
00:44:14.274 --> 00:44:17.811
Know what to do, so he stalled and he kept saying there was a
00:44:17.811 --> 00:44:21.515
Foul ball and a foul ball and a foul ball like 19 times, until
00:44:21.515 --> 00:44:25.753
Finally the machine came back on again.
00:44:25.753 --> 00:44:27.287
So that's where he learned to be an actor.
00:44:27.287 --> 00:44:29.189
I actually did that, uh, period of time
00:44:29.189 --> 00:44:33.660
On story behind the story with mike rowe.
00:44:33.660 --> 00:44:36.163
We actually reenacted that exact moment of ronald reagan
00:44:36.163 --> 00:44:40.000
Having to stretch out while the teletype wasn't working.
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.304
The audience believed him, so he learned to.
00:44:44.304 --> 00:44:46.473
He learned that trick.
00:44:46.473 --> 00:44:48.408
Okay, what a perfect way, mark, for us, uh, to get to end our
00:44:48.408 --> 00:44:53.413
Tour here at rancho del cielo.
00:44:53.413 --> 00:44:56.049
Uh, the ranch in the sky, ranch in the heavens.
00:44:56.049 --> 00:45:00.420
And getting to watch a 40 year old football game here, usc
00:45:00.420 --> 00:45:04.424
Versus, uh, notre dame.
00:45:04.424 --> 00:45:07.594
And, uh, this is what ronald would have been doing with his
00:45:07.594 --> 00:45:11.632
Secret service friends.
00:45:11.632 --> 00:45:14.368
You know, and, you know, poor nancy.
00:45:14.368 --> 00:45:16.036
Nancy is a beverly hills gal.
00:45:16.036 --> 00:45:18.005
The last place on earth she
00:45:18.005 --> 00:45:19.506
Wants to be is up here in a cabin.
00:45:19.506 --> 00:45:21.975
Right? that's true love.
00:45:21.975 --> 00:45:23.911
And in fact, their boat is called true love.
00:45:23.911 --> 00:45:25.879
So, uh, you have to think about her.
00:45:25.879 --> 00:45:28.015
And this is slumming it for her.
00:45:28.015 --> 00:45:29.817
Okay, mark, go get some pizza, and let's, uh, let's kick all
00:45:29.817 --> 00:45:33.287
The camera guys out of here.
00:45:33.287 --> 00:45:34.388
Let's watch this game. let's do it.
00:45:34.388 --> 00:45:41.128
Okay, andrew, tell us, first of all, what is the most important
00:45:44.765 --> 00:45:49.770
Aspect of rancho del cielo?
00:45:49.770 --> 00:45:52.840
Uh, the the ranch of the heavens, as ronald reagan would
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:56.577
Call it.
00:45:56.577 --> 00:45:57.444
Why preserve this?
00:45:57.444 --> 00:45:59.112
What is the ongoing activities of the reagan ranch?
00:45:59.112 --> 00:46:03.350
First of all, welcome.
00:46:03.350 --> 00:46:04.651
It's great to have you here and the whole crew and privilege to
00:46:04.651 --> 00:46:07.521
Be able to share this special place with you.
00:46:07.521 --> 00:46:09.990
The ranch is important because
00:46:09.990 --> 00:46:11.225
Of what it says about ronald reagan.
00:46:11.225 --> 00:46:13.093
Uh, there is nothing like walking in someone's footsteps
00:46:13.093 --> 00:46:16.630
Through their own home to learn about who they are.
00:46:16.630 --> 00:46:19.433
What motivated them?
00:46:19.433 --> 00:46:20.901
Uh, better understanding their character, their values.
00:46:20.901 --> 00:46:24.538
And that's the reason we step forward to save the ranch, and
00:46:24.538 --> 00:46:27.074
The reason we think it is so important to bring
00:46:27.074 --> 00:46:28.909
Young people here today.
00:46:28.909 --> 00:46:30.344
You know, president reagan was the first president that i
00:46:30.344 --> 00:46:32.646
Was able to vote for.
00:46:32.646 --> 00:46:34.081
Oh, that's right.
00:46:34.081 --> 00:46:35.282
Yeah. and i just remember it was it was such an honor
00:46:35.282 --> 00:46:38.552
For me to be able to.
00:46:38.552 --> 00:46:41.355
In my eyes, he was just such an amazing man.
00:46:41.355 --> 00:46:45.092
His love story with nancy has always just been so inspiring
00:46:45.092 --> 00:46:50.197
And beautiful.
00:46:50.197 --> 00:46:51.098
You know, think about it.
00:46:51.098 --> 00:46:52.132
For us to be here is really--
00:46:52.132 --> 00:46:53.834
Such an honor. such an honor.
00:46:53.834 --> 00:46:55.435
Seriously, this is an amazing thing.
00:46:55.435 --> 00:46:57.671
But young america's foundation is a not for profit.
00:46:57.671 --> 00:47:01.975
You bought this directly from the reagan family to preserve
00:47:01.975 --> 00:47:07.881
It in an ongoing generational legacy kind of play.
00:47:07.881 --> 00:47:12.486
Give me a typical good day for the, uh, rancho del cielo.
00:47:12.486 --> 00:47:17.791
Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:47:17.791 --> 00:47:19.092
We acquired the ranch directly from the reagan family in 1998.
00:47:19.092 --> 00:47:22.229
Ronald reagan was still alive at the time, but it reached a
00:47:22.229 --> 00:47:24.531
Stage with his alzheimer's where he could no longer enjoy
00:47:24.531 --> 00:47:27.100
The property the way he once did.
00:47:27.100 --> 00:47:29.102
So we stepped forward to save it, number one, to protect it.
00:47:29.102 --> 00:47:31.905
Like other presidential properties. we think rancho del
00:47:31.905 --> 00:47:34.107
Cielo is right up there at the top of the list, along with
00:47:34.107 --> 00:47:36.443
Mount vernon, monticello in terms of key sites in our
00:47:36.443 --> 00:47:39.913
Countries and in presidential history that need to be
00:47:39.913 --> 00:47:42.082
Protected for future generations.
00:47:42.082 --> 00:47:44.284
But the best days at the ranch today are the days where we
00:47:44.284 --> 00:47:48.055
Welcome young people here to really meet the man.
00:47:48.055 --> 00:47:51.091
That's what the ranch experience is.
00:47:51.091 --> 00:47:53.026
You get a real sense of that authenticity that made him
00:47:53.026 --> 00:47:56.396
Resonate so well with young
00:47:56.396 --> 00:47:57.931
People when he was running for office.
00:47:57.931 --> 00:47:59.700
It does sound shocking today to think that he was pulling above
00:47:59.700 --> 00:48:03.303
80% in 1984 with 18 to 24 year olds.
00:48:03.303 --> 00:48:07.741
It took that kind of,
00:48:07.741 --> 00:48:11.078
Let's say, wind in the sails of that presidency to do what
00:48:11.078 --> 00:48:15.315
He cared most about, which was the kind of the fall of, of the
00:48:15.315 --> 00:48:20.153
Cold war and ending all of that.
00:48:20.153 --> 00:48:22.255
And it was a, it's a really powerful thing to think about
00:48:22.255 --> 00:48:29.596
The history, read about the history, remember the history,
00:48:29.596 --> 00:48:32.532
And to come here and to see it firsthand and the humility
00:48:32.532 --> 00:48:38.438
Of what this is. you expect something grand,
00:48:38.438 --> 00:48:42.175
And this is like going to grandma's house.
00:48:42.175 --> 00:48:44.277
Yeah. that solitude.
00:48:44.277 --> 00:48:46.113
I mean, you get up here and there's nothing around.
00:48:46.113 --> 00:48:48.448
Yeah, i think you're right.
00:48:48.448 --> 00:48:49.616
He needed that.
00:48:49.616 --> 00:48:50.450
That was a non-negotiable for him.
00:48:50.450 --> 00:48:51.752
He knew he had to get out of washington, outside of that
00:48:51.752 --> 00:48:53.820
Bubble, back to the ranch where he could ride his horses.
00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:56.490
Where he could--
00:48:56.490 --> 00:48:57.591
I mean, hard, physical labor was the way he spent
00:48:57.591 --> 00:48:59.126
His time up here,
00:48:59.126 --> 00:49:00.227
Building fences, chopping wood, clearing brush.
00:49:00.227 --> 00:49:02.496
That's the way he relaxed.
00:49:02.496 --> 00:49:03.697
But that's also the way he recharged his batteries.
00:49:03.697 --> 00:49:06.333
This is where he took inspiration,
00:49:06.333 --> 00:49:07.868
Spiritual inspiration too.
00:49:07.868 --> 00:49:09.136
He referred to this place as his open cathedral.
00:49:09.136 --> 00:49:11.505
He felt close to god here.
00:49:11.505 --> 00:49:13.240
He wrote in his autobiography, an american life,
00:49:13.240 --> 00:49:15.442
If he had a really difficult challenge in front of him, this
00:49:15.442 --> 00:49:17.611
Is the place where he wanted to sort through it.
00:49:17.611 --> 00:49:20.080
This is such an incredible legacy to be a part of.
00:49:20.080 --> 00:49:22.849
It's been an honor and a privilege to be able to not
00:49:22.849 --> 00:49:25.519
Only share a place, but everything
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:27.087
It represents, the story of ronald reagan.
00:49:27.087 --> 00:49:29.790
You know, he was called the great communicator,
00:49:29.790 --> 00:49:32.325
Um, but what he liked to say is
00:49:32.325 --> 00:49:33.994
He wasn't the great communicator.
00:49:33.994 --> 00:49:35.328
He communicated great ideas.
00:49:35.328 --> 00:49:37.431
Both of those things are true.
00:49:37.431 --> 00:49:39.099
All of that is on display here at the ranch.
00:49:39.099 --> 00:49:41.101
I have the privilege of not only helping to protect this
00:49:41.101 --> 00:49:43.603
Place, but sharing those essential lessons with young
00:49:43.603 --> 00:49:47.541
People, future generations of young leaders who are going to
00:49:47.541 --> 00:49:51.011
Be stepping into roles that are going to shape the future
00:49:51.011 --> 00:49:53.613
And identity of our country.
00:49:53.613 --> 00:49:55.348
I get to do that day in and day out here at the ranch.
00:49:55.348 --> 00:50:00.253
When you look back over the 20 year journey of making
00:50:00.253 --> 00:50:06.927
The movie reagan-- 20 years.
00:50:06.927 --> 00:50:10.030
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:10.030 --> 00:50:11.264
And, you know, there's the kind of the, the journal of, of
00:50:11.264 --> 00:50:16.036
What that journey was.
00:50:16.036 --> 00:50:17.637
But when you look back on it, what's the
00:50:17.637 --> 00:50:21.675
Memory for you?
00:50:21.675 --> 00:50:22.976
What's the, what's the takeaway of all the experiences kind of
00:50:22.976 --> 00:50:27.414
Put together in a blender
00:50:27.414 --> 00:50:28.782
And you turn the blender on, you pour it out?
00:50:28.782 --> 00:50:30.750
What is that?
00:50:30.750 --> 00:50:32.853
Yeah, i think it was, um, you know, trying really hard--
00:50:32.853 --> 00:50:37.757
I'm so thankful that the bible that god put all these flawed
00:50:37.757 --> 00:50:41.761
Figures as our great heroes.
00:50:41.761 --> 00:50:43.697
Like, thank god he did-- thank him that he did that.
00:50:43.697 --> 00:50:46.700
And so it's really about not
00:50:46.700 --> 00:50:48.235
A perfect man, not a perfect person.
00:50:48.235 --> 00:50:50.470
His first girlfriend, they're engaged.
00:50:50.470 --> 00:50:53.240
And the preacher's daughter,
00:50:53.240 --> 00:50:54.841
And she dumps him for a guy she meets in europe and
00:50:54.841 --> 00:50:58.145
His first wife divorces him.
00:50:58.145 --> 00:50:59.813
And all these setbacks along the way.
00:50:59.813 --> 00:51:02.115
And so i think that's what, as i was saying, you know, the old
00:51:02.115 --> 00:51:05.085
Testament gives us especially gives us so many flawed people.
00:51:05.085 --> 00:51:09.289
You know, moses's killing a man and abraham's-- david's ordering
00:51:09.289 --> 00:51:13.026
A hit on his neighbor's husband and all these things.
00:51:13.026 --> 00:51:16.396
If you were if you were starting a religion, we'd
00:51:16.396 --> 00:51:17.898
Keep all those stories out.
00:51:17.898 --> 00:51:18.732
We would just have, like, a
00:51:18.732 --> 00:51:19.499
Perfect story of perfect people.
00:51:19.499 --> 00:51:21.101
But it's not.
00:51:21.101 --> 00:51:22.269
Our lives are so complicated, and but those stories
00:51:22.269 --> 00:51:24.204
Give us hope, you know?
00:51:24.204 --> 00:51:25.839
And so i think the story, too, it's the story of the comeback.
00:51:25.839 --> 00:51:29.009
You know, my original director
00:51:29.009 --> 00:51:29.910
Was john avildsen, directed rocky.
00:51:29.910 --> 00:51:32.012
And so i was going to have the ads be, from the director of
00:51:32.012 --> 00:51:34.214
Rocky comes reagan.
00:51:34.214 --> 00:51:35.482
But it is kind of a rocky comeback story with a kind of
00:51:35.482 --> 00:51:38.018
A spiritual bent to it.
00:51:38.018 --> 00:51:39.653
But i think that's the thing that really gives all of us
00:51:39.653 --> 00:51:42.155
Hope that ultimately i come away from it going, even if we
00:51:42.155 --> 00:51:44.591
Have setbacks and failures,
00:51:44.591 --> 00:51:46.326
Stick on the path and your steps will be directed.
00:51:46.326 --> 00:51:50.130
I'm going to quote from your book, uh, early in the book,
00:51:50.130 --> 00:51:55.101
Page two, as i tried to process this information, i was
00:51:55.101 --> 00:51:59.673
Reminded what my mother, so your mother said, who was just as
00:51:59.673 --> 00:52:04.711
Devout as reagan's mother, who often said that there is a
00:52:04.711 --> 00:52:09.015
Divine plan, that nothing is random in the universe where
00:52:09.015 --> 00:52:14.287
God orders the steps of his children.
00:52:14.287 --> 00:52:18.024
We believe that.
00:52:18.024 --> 00:52:19.292
And, uh, mark, thank you for writing, uh, this, this book.
00:52:19.292 --> 00:52:23.897
And we wanted to make it available to you.
00:52:23.897 --> 00:52:26.199
All the information is on the screen, and i'm telling you
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:31.504
That there is a there's a big story in here, okay?
00:52:31.504 --> 00:52:35.942
Not just the making of a movie about a big story, the largest,
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Probably in our lifetimes, meaning kind of the fall of
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Communism and the the cold war ending.
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But there's a much bigger story of how god orders your life.
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In closing, let me thank you, the american people, for giving
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Me the great honor of allowing me to serve as your president.
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When the lord calls me home, whenever that may be, i will
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Leave with the greatest love for this country of ours, an
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Eternal optimism for its future.
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I now begin the journey that will lead me into
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The sunset of my life.
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I know that for america, there will always be a
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Bright new dawn ahead.
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Thank you, my friends.
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May god always bless you.
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Sincerely,
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Ronald reagan.
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Making reagan by producer mark joseph is the inspiring true
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Story behind the film that honored ronald reagan's faith,
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Character, and enduring values.
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This memoir follows a 20 year journey of perseverance through
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Criticism, setbacks, and a global pandemic, guided by
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Conviction and prayer that this story needed to be told,
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Featuring interviews with 50 people who knew reagan.
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Actor dennis quaid calls reagan the favorite of my career.
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Get your copy today!
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Available now on amazon.
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Mark Joseph: Capturing A Legacy | Praise

January 20, 2026 | S E | 54:30

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