Matt and Laurie host Pastor Mark Walker for a powerful conversation on faith, cultural challenges, and the importance of spiritual rededication. As Rededication Weekend approaches, Walker calls the Church to unite in prayer, reflect on God’s faithfulness, intercede for the persecuted, and recommit to His purpose for our nation.
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Praise | Mark Walker: A Time to Rededicate | Praise | May 14, 2026
- Mark walker is a bold leader, standing at the hilltops of
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- Faith, government and global influence,
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- Currently serving as the principal advisor for global
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- Religious freedom at the united states department of state.
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- He carries a mandate that reaches far beyond policy.
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- In a world where religious freedom is under attack, he is
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- Defending the god given right to worship freely.
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- Appointed under the leadership of president donald trump, he
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- Has stepped into the front lines of a cultural and
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- Spiritual battle, mobilizing believers across the nation to
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- Rise, engage, and stand firm in their belief.
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- When mark walker was elected to the united states congress in
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- 2014, he took a stand for freedom and truth.
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- Rising to chair the republican study committee and later
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- Becoming vice chair of the republican conference, he
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- Became known as a voice of conviction in the political and
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- Religious landscape. from national security to the
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- Halls of prayer,
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- He fought to ensure that faith was not sidelined but centered.
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- But before washington, there was another call.
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- For 16 years, mark walker served as an ordained pastor,
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- Preaching the word of god, unapologetically shepherding
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- People with love and courage, and building a foundation
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- Rooted in truth.
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- And that calling expanded into the mountain of government.
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- He is joined by his wife, doctor kelly walker, a captain
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- In the united states air force reserves.
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- Whether in the white house or the house of god,
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- Mark walker carries a message that refuses to be silenced.
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- Faith is not meant to be hidden.
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- It is meant to lead, to confront darkness, and to
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- Transform nations,
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- A voice of conviction in a defining our standing for
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- Faith, freedom, and truth on the global stage.
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- Tonight on praise from dallas former congressman, pastor and
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- Faith leader mark walker.
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- And now your hosts, matt and laurie crouch.
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- This is not the hallowed halls of congress.
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- This is the hallowed halls of dallas, texas.
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- And mark walker,
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- Pastor, former congressman, ambassador nominee,
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- You're a whole lot of things.
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- You're getting around, mark.
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- Well, trying to keep up with you with all your titles.
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- Producer, director, entrepreneur. yes.
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- Yeah. let me just be real clear.
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- Everything you see here is fake.
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- This is all screens.
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- Okay. this is--
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- That's not real marble behind you.
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- That's not--
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- You know, these are not real.
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- Everything in tv is fake.
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- Um, kind of. kinda.
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- And, uh, but, uh, tomorrow, uh, by the way, we're going to
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- Be seeing real marble and real hallowed halls, because what an
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- Amazing coming up this weekend that we're having in
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- Washington, dc.
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- And we all have to get out of dallas, get to dc.
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- Yes. uh, i'll see you tomorrow, by
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- The way, again from 101 constitution.
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- And then on saturday and
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- Sunday, some of the biggest events
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- In american history. um, yes.
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- Mark, do you remember back to the 1980s?
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- Actually, in 1980, there was a big event on the mall called
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- Washington for jesus, and it was put together by a
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- Whole ton of people.
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- Yeah. but the pastor jimenez
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- Was the was the main guy behind.
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- We did it, i think, '80 and '84 and '88 or '92 or something,
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- I can't remember, but we did
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- About three of these big mall events.
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- The reason 1980 is special to me,
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- And you know, this event coming up, the rededicate the america
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- 250, freedom 250 rededication program on sunday
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- Is special is because it reminds me of me being--
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- Let's see, 1980,
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- So i'd have been about 18 or 19 and i was a camera guy.
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- So i was running camera.
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- My dad was one of the speakers. right.
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- And i just remember this huge, amazing statement he made.
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- Jesus won the victory on calvary.
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- Satan's defeat was final and complete.
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- But if you look around our world today
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- And most any main city street of our country, if we'll be
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- Honest with ourselves, it doesn't really look like jesus
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- Won the victory.
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- When you're 19, running camera and you know, your, your, your
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- Camera's hot, the tally light comes on and you're hot,
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- Now you're live to everywhere, you know.
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- And i was kind of moving my zoom out.
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- I'd been zoomed in on the flag.
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- And we don't do that anymore.
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- Yeah. we don't even do that anymore.
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- But back in the day, you had to
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- Grab the thing and turn it like this.
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- What's matt doing?
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- You know, all the cameramen are going, why is he doing that?
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- And i was panning over and i had this really memorable
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- Experience where, you know, when you're wearing headsets
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- And you're a camera guy, you're hearing the director, you're
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- Hearing other cameramen, you're hearing chatter, right?
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- And it's almost like that all went away and i was hearing my
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- Dad's voice, which you can always kind of hear in the
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- Background, but it just became primary.
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- And he yelled, god has done all
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- He's ever going to do about the devil.
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- And the crowd reacted in this
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- Big but kind of way.
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- And he said, now it's up to you.
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- It's up to me.
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- Let's take it back in jesus' name.
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- And you still remember this?
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- Oh my gosh.
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- I mean, it was, it's like a movie i can play inside my head
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- 2000 years ago on mount calvary.
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- The devil is illegal.
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- There's a bounty on his head.
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- He's fair game to every child of god.
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- Let's go get him,
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- In jesus' name.
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- Let's go repossess everything that he has stolen from you and
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- From me in the name of jesus.
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- God's promise is wheresoever the soles of your feet shall
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- Tread, i will give it unto you.
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- This land does not belong to the devil.
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- It belongs to god.
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- It belongs to you.
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- It belongs to me.
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- Let's take it back in jesus' name.
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- And big moment.
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- Uh, washington, d.c.. the mall.
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- You know, purportedly a million people up and down the mall.
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- We're doing that again,
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- And we're doing that again on sunday.
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- And, um, to be broadcasting live from there again--
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- Going to be a special moment.
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- It's, it's, it's really a big kind of full circle moment.
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- You know, we're now, you know, how many years ago is that?
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- Oh my lord, is that. 46.
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- 46 years? you're getting old.
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- Hey, i must have been nine, not 19.
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- Yeah. let's see.
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- I messed up earlier.
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- So, um, first of all, um,
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- You're very qualified to be here today.
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- Well, thank you.
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- You know, uh, a bunch of years in pastoral work,
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- A bunch of years in congress, uh, now moving into a new role
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- As ambassador for religious freedoms.
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- Uh, set the stage.
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- Where do you want to head?
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- What do you want to say about, you know, this coming weekend
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- And kind of where we are in our
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- Faith journey as a country here.
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- Thank you, matt and laurie, for the opportunity to be here.
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- Have been watching you guys for many years as a pk myself and,
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- And just seeing how the hard work and effort of how many
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- People, how many ministries that you've shared or
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- Platformed over the years to allow them to carry on the
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- Cause of jesus christ.
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- So, so what a privilege it is
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- For me to be here with you guys.
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- And we look forward to this great weekend.
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- In the sweltering summer of 1776,
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- 56 patriots gathered in a meeting hall in philadelphia
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- And signed their names to a document that would change the
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- Course of history forever, the declaration of independence.
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- And i have it right there.
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- What a beauty.
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- Not only did they sever the political bonds with great
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- Britain, they announced a new era in human events,
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- Proclaiming that all of us are endowed by our creator with
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- Rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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- In our war for independence and every generation since,
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- Thousands of american patriots have enlisted their lives in
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- Defense of that cause.
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- From trenton to yorktown, from gettysburg to chambersburg,
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- From the fields of france to the shores of the philippines,
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- And on the battlefields all over the world, every
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- Generation of americans has drawn meaning and been inspired
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- By the immortal deeds of the founding generation and the
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- Nation they gave us to build and to defend.
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- In two and a half centuries, that's 250 years,
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- The spirit of 1776 has carried our flag to places and heights
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- That our founding fathers could never have dreamed.
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- Americans forged into the frontier and blazed across the
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- Great plains.
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- We tamed the wild west.
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- We pushed the boundaries of scientific discovery.
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- We enlightened the world with electricity and commerce.
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- We defeated tyrants and vanquished dictators.
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- And we planted the american flag on the moon.
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- We owe it all to the patriots and heroes of 1776.
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- This is the story of america.
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- We are excited to retell one of the greatest tales in the
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- History of mankind,
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- Working with hillsdale college and some of our country's
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- Brightest leaders and foremost thinkers who have contributed
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- To the story of america video series including vice president
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- Jd vance, secretary of war pete hegseth, doctor larry arnn,
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- Eric metaxas, brian kilmeade, and many others.
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- Join us in honoring this incredible history and together
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- We will give america the greatest birthday celebration
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- Our country has ever seen.
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- God bless you and god bless america.
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- You know, i have to applaud president trump a little bit on
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- This because it was his idea to say, you know what?
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- We need a real rededication.
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- And president trump, i've had a chance to even talk the
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- Gospel with him in the oval
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- Office or during his first term.
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- I was known as one of the
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- Religious guys in congress there.
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- So he would have us over for dinner and we would talk about,
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- You know, the changing culture and just talking, even talking
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- About the atonement, the blood of jesus,
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- And what that means is what we do as believers, as followers,
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- And some really neat, in-depth conversations.
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- But people forget sometimes,
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- He is the only president in history to host a conference at
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- The united nations on religious liberty as a whole.
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- The united states is founded on the principle that our rights
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- Do not come from government.
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- They come from god.
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- This immortal truth is proclaimed in our declaration
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- Of independence and enshrined in the first amendment to our
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- Constitution's bill of rights.
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- Our founders understood that no right is more fundamental to a
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- Peaceful, prosperous and virtuous society than the right
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- To follow one's religious convictions.
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- Regrettably, the religious freedom enjoyed by american
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- Citizens is rare in the world.
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- Approximately 80% of the world's population live in
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- Countries where religious liberty is threatened,
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- Restricted, or even banned.
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- And when i heard that number, i said, please go back and check
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- It because it can't possibly be correct.
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- And sadly, it was. 80%.
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- As we speak, jews, christians, muslims, buddhists, hindus,
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- Sikhs, yazidis and many other people of faith are being
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- Jailed, sanctioned, tortured and even murdered, often at the
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- Hands of their own government simply for expressing their
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- Deeply held religious beliefs.
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- So hard to believe. today, with one clear voice, the united
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- States of america calls upon the nations of the world to end
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- Religious persecution. [applause]
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- This has been something that's very important to him.
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- Obviously a chance to work some over the last few months with
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- Secretary rubio and to see this not just from a global
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- Standpoint, but how america's
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- Been the beacon of hope. in many cases,
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- If you look at our country and the history of of how we've
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- Taken the gospel message of jesus christ to places
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- All over the world.
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- Yeah, i'll share this real quick.
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- I was in london last june when sweet older lady
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- In her 80s came up.
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- She put her hand on my chest and she said, congressman, she
- 00:14:27.489 --> 00:14:31.260
- Said, america is the beacon of hope for religious liberty.
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- She said, you must, your country
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- Must continue to stand for that.
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- And i'm grateful that we have a president willing to have this
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- Kind of special weekend this weekend.
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- We're grateful that, um, 53 years ago, a handful of
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- Partners that yes, um, said yes to the call.
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- And when my dad looked into a camera, not knowing if nine
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- People were watching in southern california in 1973,
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- Uh, 65 full power tv stations later, 17 language networks on
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- The air around the world,
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- And we sit here today, 53 years later, uh, because that
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- Was important to a group of
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- People in 1973 that started this.
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- And the difference between trinity, i think, and a
- 00:15:22.244 --> 00:15:28.417
- Good idea, let's say, is my mom
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- And dad heard the voice of the lord.
- 00:15:31.420 --> 00:15:33.789
- Mhm. simultaneously.
- 00:15:33.789 --> 00:15:35.591
- And god spoke to them and released them from
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- The job they were doing.
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- They were managing another tv
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- Station and a radio station in la.
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- And my dad looked at my mom said, jan, you're not going to
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- Believe what the lord just said to me.
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- She said, no, i will.
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- He just said the same thing to me.
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- He's released us from our work here.
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- Incredible. so think of not convincing your wife of
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- Something the lord said, or she's not convincing my dad.
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- My mom and dad heard the
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- Voice of the lord simultaneously.
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- And then they quit.
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- So they qualified for the next
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- Step with god because they quit.
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- Step of faith. right? yes.
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- And then there came
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- The real instruction.
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- The first word was a test.
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- The second word was direction.
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- And my dad heard call angel irma.
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- He called him and the secretary said, he's not available.
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- Sorry. not available.
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- Yeah. my dad kind of, um.
- 00:16:33.682 --> 00:16:36.118
- And then she goes, hang on a second.
- 00:16:36.118 --> 00:16:37.953
- I think i might hear him coming back down the hallway.
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- Why don't you hang on a second?
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- He calls--
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- He picks up the phone and my dad says, angel, i called you a
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- Couple of months ago.
- 00:16:46.228 --> 00:16:47.529
- Your station wasn't for sale.
- 00:16:47.529 --> 00:16:49.398
- Wanted to call you again today, see if anything's changed.
- 00:16:49.398 --> 00:16:53.702
- He said, paul, i just got done with a board meeting.
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- We officially voted to sell this station.
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- Did you know that?
- 00:17:00.342 --> 00:17:01.877
- And he goes, no sir, i didn't,
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- But based on that, i like to drive up and see you today.
- 00:17:03.812 --> 00:17:06.548
- How about that.
- 00:17:06.548 --> 00:17:07.583
- And he drives up there and the napkin deal that
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- They put together, um, consummated, you know,
- 00:17:11.820 --> 00:17:17.359
- You agree to terms and submit to the fcc.
- 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.995
- The fcc has to grant permission for transfer of control.
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- And so we became a tv station owner.
- 00:17:23.932 --> 00:17:29.138
- But when you think back of it, what really is tbn?
- 00:17:29.138 --> 00:17:33.041
- This is a, this is a deep subject
- 00:17:33.041 --> 00:17:35.277
- Now, mark, and since you were a pastor for 16 years,
- 00:17:35.277 --> 00:17:39.047
- You hopefully you get it. so, get this.
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- What is tbn?
- 00:17:42.317 --> 00:17:43.785
- It's simply a response to the voice of the lord.
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- Mhm.
- 00:17:47.489 --> 00:17:48.657
- Think of, think of what happened, you know, with moses.
- 00:17:48.657 --> 00:17:52.261
- Sure. yes.
- 00:17:52.261 --> 00:17:53.228
- He responded to the burning bush voice.
- 00:17:53.228 --> 00:17:56.431
- He responded to god.
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- How do you do the impossible?
- 00:17:58.066 --> 00:17:59.768
- You respond to the voice of the lord.
- 00:17:59.768 --> 00:18:02.171
- So we sit here now, 53 years later, we have a rededication
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- Event coming up in just a, just sunday.
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- Mhm. and, and we, we're seeing some things now and we're
- 00:18:10.145 --> 00:18:16.718
- Getting to promote this over something that god, in his
- 00:18:16.718 --> 00:18:20.822
- Divine wisdom, started by his voice 53 years ago.
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- And you think about that.
- 00:18:25.661 --> 00:18:26.929
- And obviously, there's a lot of other talent and skill sets
- 00:18:26.929 --> 00:18:30.232
- That come in that god uses to really increase the voice.
- 00:18:30.232 --> 00:18:33.402
- But we are in a culture in a generation right now that is
- 00:18:33.402 --> 00:18:36.939
- Looking for truth. okay.
- 00:18:36.939 --> 00:18:38.740
- We're seeing across college campuses is
- 00:18:38.740 --> 00:18:40.876
- Where is the truth?
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- And i, and i think the work that you guys have continued to
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- Do, to be able to be that light in so many different multiple
- 00:18:45.380 --> 00:18:48.584
- Venues-- i'm just walking around
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- This place today is absolutely breathtaking.
- 00:18:50.252 --> 00:18:53.622
- It's forcing all the possibilities, all the things
- 00:18:53.622 --> 00:18:55.991
- That you're accomplishing to
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- Carry on the gospel of jesus christ.
- 00:18:57.559 --> 00:18:59.127
- Well, how did it go for you and kelly?
- 00:18:59.127 --> 00:19:00.529
- What-- well, you know what?
- 00:19:00.529 --> 00:19:02.331
- We're both the the oldest.
- 00:19:02.331 --> 00:19:03.799
- She's the oldest of three girls.
- 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.033
- I'm the oldest of three boys in baptist preacher's homes.
- 00:19:05.033 --> 00:19:07.803
- And, uh, i was involved in church.
- 00:19:07.803 --> 00:19:10.639
- She was involved as well, but we didn't really feel a call
- 00:19:10.639 --> 00:19:13.242
- That god was leading us into the ministry.
- 00:19:13.242 --> 00:19:14.977
- So we pursued business and finance and probably mid to
- 00:19:14.977 --> 00:19:18.413
- Late 20s, god began to work on our hearts simultaneously, as
- 00:19:18.413 --> 00:19:21.817
- He often does, and we prayed about it and said, this is god
- 00:19:21.817 --> 00:19:25.520
- Was leading us into ministry, something that i had
- 00:19:25.520 --> 00:19:27.456
- Swore i would never do
- 00:19:27.456 --> 00:19:28.657
- Being a pk. you know about that, right?
- 00:19:28.657 --> 00:19:30.626
- You both do.
- 00:19:30.626 --> 00:19:31.460
- I was never going to be a pastor.
- 00:19:31.460 --> 00:19:32.294
- Exactly right.
- 00:19:32.294 --> 00:19:33.462
- Good luck on that one.
- 00:19:33.462 --> 00:19:35.097
- But we went back to school and and then right into ministry,
- 00:19:35.097 --> 00:19:39.001
- Late 90s with doctor gary chapman, friends of yours, he
- 00:19:39.001 --> 00:19:41.470
- And carolyn, both. god's done work, great work.
- 00:19:41.470 --> 00:19:45.040
- And then i was at a large republican national convention,
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- And god began to work on my heart the same way.
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- I wasn't even a delegate.
- 00:19:51.813 --> 00:19:52.681
- I was up in the nosebleed sections.
- 00:19:52.681 --> 00:19:54.383
- I walked down to the ground floor, and in that moment, god
- 00:19:54.383 --> 00:19:58.053
- Spoke to my heart. just like he had spoke from the business
- 00:19:58.053 --> 00:20:01.323
- World, leaving there to go into the ministry,
- 00:20:01.323 --> 00:20:04.192
- It was the same holy spirit that was speaking to me, said,
- 00:20:04.192 --> 00:20:07.296
- He's calling me to a different front.
- 00:20:07.296 --> 00:20:08.864
- Maybe not everybody sees it that way, but i knew that this
- 00:20:08.864 --> 00:20:12.067
- Was a new time and a new season of ministry.
- 00:20:12.067 --> 00:20:14.803
- We came back home.
- 00:20:14.803 --> 00:20:16.104
- We stepped away from ministry, ran, stepped out by faith for
- 00:20:16.104 --> 00:20:20.342
- This political season.
- 00:20:20.342 --> 00:20:21.910
- People said, why don't you start at the local level?
- 00:20:21.910 --> 00:20:23.745
- I said, well, we just felt like god said, go all in,
- 00:20:23.745 --> 00:20:25.647
- So we're going all in.
- 00:20:25.647 --> 00:20:26.915
- He opened the doors and we were able to win a seat there in
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- Congress and had a chance to hit the ground running there
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- Back some ten years ago now, ten, 11 years ago.
- 00:20:32.554 --> 00:20:35.123
- You remind me of mike huckabee somewhat.
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- I love mike.
- 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:38.293
- You know, from a pastoral thing
- 00:20:38.293 --> 00:20:40.395
- He went through the governor world.
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- You went through the congress, but now you're an
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- Ambassador nominee.
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- He's an ambassador.
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- You've got a very similar career path.
- 00:20:46.868 --> 00:20:49.037
- Yes. what took you to this new assignment?
- 00:20:49.037 --> 00:20:52.741
- Okay. we sit here today.
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- Uh, you've you've got the, uh, nomination process to complete,
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- But you're already really acting as an advisor in regard
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- To religious liberties.
- 00:21:06.955 --> 00:21:08.457
- What does our audience need to know?
- 00:21:08.457 --> 00:21:10.225
- What is your main mission?
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- Well, as a special government employee, you can be assigned
- 00:21:11.727 --> 00:21:14.596
- For so many months to be able to fulfill something, which is
- 00:21:14.596 --> 00:21:17.599
- What we've done the last three months.
- 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:19.267
- We'll see where we go from here
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- As far as how we can serve the administration.
- 00:21:20.736 --> 00:21:23.171
- But predominantly, this is a position that was created in
- 00:21:23.171 --> 00:21:26.441
- 1998, republican legislation signed into law by bill clinton
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- All the way back, some 26 now, 28 years ago, i guess it is, to
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- Be the advocate for those being persecuted around the world.
- 00:21:35.317 --> 00:21:38.653
- As i sit with you today, there's a country that we've
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- Been negotiating with.
- 00:21:41.089 --> 00:21:42.391
- There's a 42 year old mother of four, a christian mom in one of
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- These countries just because she had something on whatsapp,
- 00:21:45.827 --> 00:21:48.930
- She's been sentenced to death row.
- 00:21:48.930 --> 00:21:50.766
- So we see these kinds of things, the blasphemy laws that
- 00:21:50.766 --> 00:21:53.769
- Want to silence
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- Faith minorities in these different countries from being
- 00:21:56.304 --> 00:21:58.940
- Able to proclaim the name of jesus.
- 00:21:58.940 --> 00:22:00.842
- Now, it's not strictly for
- 00:22:00.842 --> 00:22:01.943
- Christians, but here's what we know.
- 00:22:01.943 --> 00:22:03.779
- Christians-- the data shows this.
- 00:22:03.779 --> 00:22:05.213
- Christians are the number one persecuted group in the world.
- 00:22:05.213 --> 00:22:08.316
- In africa, there are some countries, in fact, 70% of all
- 00:22:08.316 --> 00:22:12.120
- Martyred christians today come from the continent of africa,
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- And 90% of that number comes
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- From one country there in nigeria.
- 00:22:17.492 --> 00:22:19.628
- So i was grateful that president trump, this past
- 00:22:19.628 --> 00:22:22.230
- October, the previous administration had taken this
- 00:22:22.230 --> 00:22:24.499
- Country off to what we call a country of particular concern.
- 00:22:24.499 --> 00:22:27.803
- President trump put them back on there to help motivate them
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- To do more to protect the christians there in nigeria.
- 00:22:30.639 --> 00:22:33.375
- So nigeria is really the hot button of the world, or--
- 00:22:33.375 --> 00:22:37.813
- 3500 to 4000 christians per year are martyred and
- 00:22:37.813 --> 00:22:41.650
- Slaughtered in the country of nigeria and has been going on
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- For more than a decade.
- 00:22:44.820 --> 00:22:46.288
- What do we need to do?
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- Well-- what do you want us to do?
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- Well, as a whole-- and you were touching on this a little bit
- 00:22:52.093 --> 00:22:55.464
- Earlier, matt, as far as people being formed. you know, second
- 00:22:55.464 --> 00:22:59.301
- Timothy 2:15 talks about studying, understanding,
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- Knowing where we are in our culture to be able to have
- 00:23:02.103 --> 00:23:04.306
- The maximum impact.
- 00:23:04.306 --> 00:23:05.841
- So people learning and understanding what we're
- 00:23:05.841 --> 00:23:08.777
- Dealing with internationally, the level of evil that is
- 00:23:08.777 --> 00:23:11.313
- Coming from the enemy to defame and try to silence.
- 00:23:11.313 --> 00:23:14.549
- Now we know ultimately the enemy cannot triumph,
- 00:23:14.549 --> 00:23:16.685
- But there are places and regions that if, if you dare be
- 00:23:16.685 --> 00:23:21.056
- Be a follower of jesus christ or proclaim the name of jesus,
- 00:23:21.056 --> 00:23:24.793
- It's going to be at least imprisonment in some cases,
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- Even death. wow.
- 00:23:26.995 --> 00:23:29.531
- We here in america don't really understand that, do we?
- 00:23:29.531 --> 00:23:34.002
- We really don't. not to that level.
- 00:23:34.002 --> 00:23:35.370
- You know, we we have complete freedom in regard to that.
- 00:23:35.370 --> 00:23:40.909
- And look, there's always
- 00:23:40.909 --> 00:23:42.544
- Something that's infringing somewhere
- 00:23:42.544 --> 00:23:44.546
- And we always have these pushback moments.
- 00:23:44.546 --> 00:23:46.648
- And, you know, thank god for, you know, jay sekulow and some
- 00:23:46.648 --> 00:23:50.452
- Of these guys that, you know, that that take on these
- 00:23:50.452 --> 00:23:54.389
- Issues and fight things all the way to the supreme court.
- 00:23:54.389 --> 00:23:57.392
- And we cover a lot of that.
- 00:23:57.392 --> 00:23:59.027
- We get involved in that.
- 00:23:59.027 --> 00:24:00.362
- And when coach, you know, couldn't pray at school, we
- 00:24:00.362 --> 00:24:04.933
- Followed that story all the way through and actually sent a
- 00:24:04.933 --> 00:24:08.403
- Crew with him back where he went back for that one
- 00:24:08.403 --> 00:24:13.375
- Final prayer after the supreme court decision.
- 00:24:13.375 --> 00:24:15.343
- And see, that's part of the great
- 00:24:15.343 --> 00:24:16.611
- Work that you do when we talk about educating or informing
- 00:24:16.611 --> 00:24:19.481
- People, letting them know what's going on, even sometimes
- 00:24:19.481 --> 00:24:22.617
- Right here in our country.
- 00:24:22.617 --> 00:24:23.718
- But to your point internationally, that sometimes
- 00:24:23.718 --> 00:24:26.421
- Can be a much different story.
- 00:24:26.421 --> 00:24:27.889
- America was founded on faith and prayer.
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- What do you see here in america?
- 00:24:57.986 --> 00:25:00.455
- Uh, as kind of something we need to know about that might
- 00:25:00.455 --> 00:25:05.927
- Need some pushback?
- 00:25:05.927 --> 00:25:07.195
- Well, i think right now we are seeing a legislation that is
- 00:25:07.195 --> 00:25:10.832
- Being written-- and you folks
- 00:25:10.832 --> 00:25:12.267
- Have spent a good time in california.
- 00:25:12.267 --> 00:25:14.202
- You're familiar with some of the language, and one of the
- 00:25:14.202 --> 00:25:17.305
- Laws that recently passed that parents would no longer be able
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- To supervise their children if they wanted to change their
- 00:25:20.508 --> 00:25:23.345
- Sex even following through in surgery, and if the parents did
- 00:25:23.345 --> 00:25:27.482
- Push back, the parents would lose any kind of recourse to be
- 00:25:27.482 --> 00:25:31.252
- Able to manage that child's future.
- 00:25:31.252 --> 00:25:33.154
- They would be literally taken from those families.
- 00:25:33.154 --> 00:25:35.590
- This is what we're seeing even on a federal level now, and
- 00:25:35.590 --> 00:25:38.627
- Being able to understand that this is spiritual warfare much
- 00:25:38.627 --> 00:25:41.630
- More than it is political parties.
- 00:25:41.630 --> 00:25:43.264
- You have to understand where this is coming from, who the
- 00:25:43.264 --> 00:25:45.233
- Author of this ultimately is.
- 00:25:45.233 --> 00:25:47.035
- And i think what we need to do as a body of believers is to
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- Understand that we are really wrestling, as ephesians 6:12
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- Talks about, not against flesh and blood, but against these
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- Other powers and principalities in dark places.
- 00:25:55.744 --> 00:25:58.880
- So there is a law on the books. yes.
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- Passed and signed and and the the parents--
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- Governor newsom? yes.
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- Are we allowed to say. absolutely.
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- One of governor newsom's
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- Specialties there in california.
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- So the idea, how does that not
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- Eventually just cause mass exodus?
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- I mean, i know that california is losing-- yes.
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- People. in fact, i've heard here in texas, we're gaining,
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- You know, 1000, 1500 people a day.
- 00:26:34.516 --> 00:26:36.951
- You've actually lost a member of congress because the house
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- Of representatives is based on population.
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- So we've even seen that from california.
- 00:26:41.690 --> 00:26:44.159
- So california is reducing in its population.
- 00:26:44.159 --> 00:26:46.795
- We hear about the businesses that leave and --
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- Tbn left.
- 00:26:51.066 --> 00:26:52.167
- Tbn has a production facility there,
- 00:26:52.167 --> 00:26:55.136
- But we have all of our administration here in the
- 00:26:55.136 --> 00:26:59.074
- State of texas now.
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- And, and we left the ability to do some production there
- 00:27:00.375 --> 00:27:04.446
- But you're kind of in the middle of even, you know, what,
- 00:27:04.446 --> 00:27:09.350
- What we thought was best for tbn.
- 00:27:09.350 --> 00:27:12.787
- Sure. yes.
- 00:27:12.787 --> 00:27:14.022
- Um, you know, when you, when you, when you think of these
- 00:27:14.022 --> 00:27:17.459
- Policies, how does it-- you know, part of me wants to say,
- 00:27:17.459 --> 00:27:21.563
- Give them all the rope they want, you know.
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- Yeah. you know.
- 00:27:24.866 --> 00:27:26.468
- He always tells me every time i say something happening,
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- He goes, let it burn.
- 00:27:28.703 --> 00:27:30.605
- Exactly. it reveals itself.
- 00:27:30.605 --> 00:27:32.407
- Just let it burn.
- 00:27:32.407 --> 00:27:33.608
- It'll correct itself because so many people will leave
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- When when these, you know, crazy things happen.
- 00:27:36.778 --> 00:27:40.615
- 100% agree.
- 00:27:40.615 --> 00:27:41.916
- But i also think about just as, matt, as you were talking about
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- Even talking about rope, i thought about the scriptures
- 00:27:44.419 --> 00:27:47.422
- When it talks about it's better a millstone be hung around your
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- Neck and be cast in the sea
- 00:27:51.292 --> 00:27:52.794
- Than to offend these little ones.
- 00:27:52.794 --> 00:27:54.429
- And that's why we have to fight now as well.
- 00:27:54.429 --> 00:27:56.965
- Yes, it reveals itself ultimately as crazy policies
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- That are damaging,
- 00:28:00.001 --> 00:28:01.169
- But what about all those children?
- 00:28:01.169 --> 00:28:02.470
- What about all those families that are under the oppression
- 00:28:02.470 --> 00:28:05.173
- Of some of this legislation and laws that are literally
- 00:28:05.173 --> 00:28:08.610
- Contrary to the very word of god that we believe?
- 00:28:08.610 --> 00:28:21.556
- Our nation was conceived by men and women who believed in the
- 00:28:22.757 --> 00:28:29.397
- Power of god, who believed in
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- The providence of god, and in prayer.
- 00:28:31.065 --> 00:28:35.470
- We pray that we would fulfill the true meaning of our creed,
- 00:28:35.470 --> 00:28:40.475
- That we hold these truths to be self-evident.
- 00:28:40.475 --> 00:28:43.945
- But look what god has done.
- 00:28:43.945 --> 00:28:45.780
- We praise him and give him glory.
- 00:28:45.780 --> 00:28:47.715
- Our father and our god,
- 00:28:48.216 --> 00:28:49.517
- Thou hast said, blessed is the nation whose god is the lord.
- 00:28:49.517 --> 00:28:54.122
- Faith in god is the value that most shaped america, and it's
- 00:28:55.323 --> 00:28:59.894
- People of faith who have been the bedrock, the driving force
- 00:28:59.894 --> 00:29:02.797
- Behind our nation.
- 00:29:02.797 --> 00:29:04.065
- We are celebrating what god has done in this great nation
- 00:29:04.065 --> 00:29:09.504
- Called america.
- 00:29:09.504 --> 00:29:18.746
- This weekend,
- 00:29:19.113 --> 00:29:20.748
- First of all, is is an amazing weekend.
- 00:29:20.748 --> 00:29:23.551
- Tomorrow night will be live for quite a bit from right there in
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- Tomorrow night will be live for quite a bit from right there in
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- The middle of washington, dc.
- 00:29:29.123 --> 00:29:30.825
- From constitution 101.
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- Saturday will be live again for a big day.
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- Um. where where um,
- 00:29:38.666 --> 00:29:40.668
- Good neighbor day,
- 00:29:40.668 --> 00:29:41.803
- It's one of the america 250 events where just really
- 00:29:41.803 --> 00:29:46.174
- Great, um, food giveaways and just good,
- 00:29:46.174 --> 00:29:51.279
- The goodness of god is going to be on display all day saturday.
- 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:55.216
- Uh, and erick stackelbeck is going to help us host that.
- 00:29:55.216 --> 00:29:57.952
- And a whole bunch of people are involved in that, uh, from the
- 00:29:57.952 --> 00:30:03.491
- East coast to the west coast.
- 00:30:03.491 --> 00:30:05.426
- Um, and then on sunday, i think is, is the reason we--
- 00:30:05.426 --> 00:30:11.733
- The sunday event really got our attention.
- 00:30:11.733 --> 00:30:15.136
- Um, and i think the, the, the whole big package of tbn going
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- And being live from washington starting tomorrow, uh, really
- 00:30:21.743 --> 00:30:26.881
- Started when we heard the word rededicate.
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- Yes.
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- You know, um, walk us through, uh, mark, kind of where all
- 00:30:31.786 --> 00:30:36.557
- That, how long ago did that idea come up?
- 00:30:36.557 --> 00:30:40.995
- Uh, where did we, where, how did this get going?
- 00:30:40.995 --> 00:30:46.134
- Kind of give us a behind the scenes story to where
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- Rededicate 250 came from.
- 00:30:50.305 --> 00:30:53.374
- Well, it really was president trump's idea or brainchild
- 00:30:53.374 --> 00:30:58.313
- When it comes to doing something that marked the
- 00:30:58.313 --> 00:31:01.316
- History of our country, because he said, you know, why wouldn't
- 00:31:01.316 --> 00:31:04.218
- You have a rededication time 250 years later on a country
- 00:31:04.218 --> 00:31:07.555
- That was founded on judeo-christian principles,
- 00:31:07.555 --> 00:31:10.391
- Pursuing religious freedom?
- 00:31:10.391 --> 00:31:12.393
- And it's a time to recalibrate, to see where we are as a
- 00:31:12.393 --> 00:31:15.697
- Country spiritually, faith wise, and not to overplay it,
- 00:31:15.697 --> 00:31:20.702
- But he, i think sometime between 3 and 4:00 in the morning, he
- 00:31:20.702 --> 00:31:24.339
- Comes up with a lot of ideas.
- 00:31:24.339 --> 00:31:25.707
- Some he tweets, some he shares later, a different story.
- 00:31:25.707 --> 00:31:29.243
- But he wants to make sure that this season-- and if you
- 00:31:29.243 --> 00:31:33.014
- Go back 5 or 6 years ago, he did not anticipate that he
- 00:31:33.014 --> 00:31:36.017
- Would be the president during the 250 years.
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- But in the providence of everything that's transpired,
- 00:31:38.152 --> 00:31:40.989
- He wants to make the most of this season, this
- 00:31:40.989 --> 00:31:43.458
- 250th anniversary of america. relatively,
- 00:31:43.458 --> 00:31:46.027
- We're still a young country compared to others, but the
- 00:31:46.027 --> 00:31:49.197
- Fact that we can continue to go back and think about what made,
- 00:31:49.197 --> 00:31:52.734
- What has made this country.
- 00:31:52.734 --> 00:31:54.102
- We talk about god blessing america.
- 00:31:54.102 --> 00:31:56.371
- Why has god blessed?
- 00:31:56.371 --> 00:31:57.805
- Why has god sustained this country philanthropically and
- 00:31:57.805 --> 00:32:01.175
- Other aspects of our wealth and our military might?
- 00:32:01.175 --> 00:32:04.312
- Why is that?
- 00:32:04.312 --> 00:32:05.546
- This is a moment this weekend to really reflect on god's
- 00:32:05.546 --> 00:32:08.316
- Goodness and to rededicate that moving forward.
- 00:32:08.316 --> 00:32:11.853
- America was founded on faith and prayer.
- 00:32:11.853 --> 00:32:14.188
- We're carrying that legacy forward as we bring you
- 00:32:14.188 --> 00:32:17.125
- Rededicate 250, a national
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- Jubilee of prayer, praise, and thanksgiving.
- 00:32:19.494 --> 00:32:22.130
- Join voices of faith, reverend franklin graham, reverend
- 00:32:22.130 --> 00:32:24.632
- Samuel rodriguez, pastor jensen franklin, plus government
- 00:32:24.632 --> 00:32:27.702
- Leaders including house speaker mike johnson, secretary of war
- 00:32:27.702 --> 00:32:30.438
- Pete hegseth, former hud secretary doctor ben carson,
- 00:32:30.438 --> 00:32:33.341
- And more.
- 00:32:33.341 --> 00:32:34.075
- Don't miss this historic moment.
- 00:32:34.075 --> 00:32:35.810
- May 17th, 1230 to 7 p.m.
- 00:32:35.810 --> 00:32:38.279
- Eastern on tbn and tbn+ live stream.
- 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.883
- I've been kind of thinking about this whole weekend, and i
- 00:32:41.883 --> 00:32:45.453
- Get this kind of dumb grin on my face.
- 00:32:45.453 --> 00:32:47.688
- You know, when you think about--
- 00:32:47.688 --> 00:32:51.259
- I am, i'm tracking it back
- 00:32:51.826 --> 00:32:54.629
- Like i said at the very beginning of the program, back
- 00:32:54.629 --> 00:32:57.465
- To that washington for jesus 1980.
- 00:32:57.465 --> 00:33:00.635
- And there was these big events and big president, ronald
- 00:33:00.635 --> 00:33:04.472
- Reagan, uh, you know, and, and we, we did these big events.
- 00:33:04.472 --> 00:33:10.411
- And it felt like for many years, we look back at that and
- 00:33:10.411 --> 00:33:17.151
- Said, that was the good old days.
- 00:33:17.151 --> 00:33:20.088
- And it feels like we get to say, these are the
- 00:33:20.088 --> 00:33:24.258
- Good old days again.
- 00:33:24.258 --> 00:33:26.394
- That's kind of what the attitude. when we sit here,
- 00:33:26.394 --> 00:33:31.799
- You know, today, on thursday, tomorrow when we're sitting at
- 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:36.437
- Us constitution 101 there at that at that building looking
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- At the capitol,
- 00:33:40.641 --> 00:33:42.376
- You know, i just want everyone to just kind of soak it in for
- 00:33:42.376 --> 00:33:45.446
- A minute that the last time we really did these big things was
- 00:33:45.446 --> 00:33:51.886
- Back in the 80s, and we're talking 40 years ago, like
- 00:33:51.886 --> 00:33:56.190
- An entire generation.
- 00:33:56.190 --> 00:33:58.226
- You see the parallel.
- 00:33:58.726 --> 00:34:00.828
- I was, you know, 18, 19, 20 years old when we were doing
- 00:34:00.828 --> 00:34:05.766
- This event, you know, and nothing big like that happened
- 00:34:05.766 --> 00:34:10.304
- In that entire time.
- 00:34:10.304 --> 00:34:12.540
- So there's where my head keeps going that this weekend,
- 00:34:12.540 --> 00:34:18.412
- Uh, that's why we're just kind of we'll be broadcasting a
- 00:34:18.412 --> 00:34:22.150
- Bunch, uh, from, from washington tomorrow.
- 00:34:22.150 --> 00:34:25.887
- We do elongated praise. right.
- 00:34:25.887 --> 00:34:28.222
- And, and it just feels like we're getting to relive the
- 00:34:28.222 --> 00:34:33.628
- Good old days again.
- 00:34:33.628 --> 00:34:35.129
- That's what it feels like to me.
- 00:34:35.129 --> 00:34:36.531
- There is some momentum right now.
- 00:34:36.531 --> 00:34:38.499
- And that's why i'm very hopeful.
- 00:34:38.499 --> 00:34:40.735
- And i've been thinking a lot about i think it's galatians
- 00:34:40.735 --> 00:34:43.738
- 6:9 where it talks about don't grow weary in well doing,
- 00:34:43.738 --> 00:34:46.908
- For in due season we will reap.
- 00:34:46.908 --> 00:34:48.743
- Well, i feel like we've been plowing the fields a
- 00:34:48.743 --> 00:34:51.279
- Little bit these last few decades, and i believe we're in
- 00:34:51.279 --> 00:34:54.015
- A moment where we could see god
- 00:34:54.015 --> 00:34:55.283
- Really work across this country.
- 00:34:55.283 --> 00:34:57.785
- We're seeing it on some college campuses and some different
- 00:34:57.785 --> 00:34:59.887
- Things and some sparks here and there.
- 00:34:59.887 --> 00:35:02.023
- And i'm hoping this is something that can really,
- 00:35:02.023 --> 00:35:04.559
- Really be a time--
- 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:05.927
- Maybe this weekend really is the launching pad that we can
- 00:35:05.927 --> 00:35:09.130
- Go from here and see god really work again in america.
- 00:35:09.130 --> 00:35:12.166
- It's almost like in a marriage, you kind of get old enough to
- 00:35:12.166 --> 00:35:15.369
- Renew your vows. sure. yes.
- 00:35:15.369 --> 00:35:17.205
- You know, and to renew.
- 00:35:17.205 --> 00:35:18.472
- I love that god renews something.
- 00:35:18.472 --> 00:35:21.242
- It's like renew the new, the new thing that god is doing.
- 00:35:21.242 --> 00:35:26.047
- Absolutely.
- 00:35:26.047 --> 00:35:27.315
- And i believe he is doing-- you know, there's, there's the
- 00:35:27.315 --> 00:35:29.150
- Scripture that talks about the wheat and the tares growing at
- 00:35:29.150 --> 00:35:32.220
- The same time. yes.
- 00:35:32.220 --> 00:35:33.754
- And i think the season, we're seeing that, kind of that great
- 00:35:33.754 --> 00:35:38.726
- Divide, you know, of the dark getting darker and the light
- 00:35:38.726 --> 00:35:41.629
- Getting brighter.
- 00:35:41.629 --> 00:35:42.964
- You know, and that's what the kingdom of god is for.
- 00:35:42.964 --> 00:35:45.399
- That's what, that's what we get to live.
- 00:35:45.399 --> 00:35:47.602
- We get to be the light of the world and the salt to to the
- 00:35:47.602 --> 00:35:51.372
- World and the people that are dying without christ.
- 00:35:51.372 --> 00:35:54.742
- And, and i think that this rededication, even if-- i've
- 00:35:54.742 --> 00:35:58.913
- Been kind of thinking about president trump and
- 00:35:58.913 --> 00:36:02.750
- Poor guy, i mean, every, you know, all that's happened, the
- 00:36:02.750 --> 00:36:08.189
- Way that that the church has been kind of forced into
- 00:36:08.189 --> 00:36:14.428
- Speaking out. yes.
- 00:36:14.929 --> 00:36:16.564
- And it all seems political, but it has politics have gone
- 00:36:16.564 --> 00:36:21.669
- So far that it's invading
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- Inside of the church.
- 00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:27.108
- That is such a great word.
- 00:36:27.708 --> 00:36:29.777
- In the church.
- 00:36:29.777 --> 00:36:30.344
- You're exactly right
- 00:36:30.344 --> 00:36:31.646
- Because if you go back to when we were growing up, you had one
- 00:36:31.646 --> 00:36:34.081
- Nightly news program, 30 minutes.
- 00:36:34.081 --> 00:36:35.783
- Yeah. and so for some of these younger pastors that i will go
- 00:36:35.783 --> 00:36:38.586
- And meet with, whether the president of this convention or
- 00:36:38.586 --> 00:36:40.621
- That, and they'll say, well, that's not really our our area.
- 00:36:40.621 --> 00:36:43.791
- Well, things have changed.
- 00:36:43.791 --> 00:36:45.359
- Now your parishioners are inundated with 7 or 8
- 00:36:45.359 --> 00:36:48.062
- 24 hour news cycles.
- 00:36:48.062 --> 00:36:49.363
- It's in your constant social media feed.
- 00:36:49.363 --> 00:36:51.432
- So if you're not engaging, if you're not educating your
- 00:36:51.432 --> 00:36:53.901
- People on what this looks like and how it's packaged, who do
- 00:36:53.901 --> 00:36:56.704
- You expect to be leading this fight?
- 00:36:56.704 --> 00:36:58.706
- And i think that's where we're at this moment of rededication
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- To really see this next generation, even ministry
- 00:37:01.742 --> 00:37:04.378
- Leaders, to your point, laurie, that have to engage, that have
- 00:37:04.378 --> 00:37:07.748
- To speak up because 60 years ago, these social issues,
- 00:37:07.748 --> 00:37:11.552
- Protecting life, protecting families, they were not even
- 00:37:11.552 --> 00:37:13.921
- A problem in politics.
- 00:37:13.921 --> 00:37:15.756
- The difference between republicans and democrats then
- 00:37:15.756 --> 00:37:17.925
- Were, how much do you want to appropriate?
- 00:37:17.925 --> 00:37:19.327
- How much should the government spend?
- 00:37:19.327 --> 00:37:20.995
- But now it's a different fight altogether. and nobody
- 00:37:20.995 --> 00:37:23.397
- Even really-- nobody told if i'm a republican or if
- 00:37:23.397 --> 00:37:26.233
- I'm a democrat.
- 00:37:26.233 --> 00:37:27.268
- You kept that to yourself, right?
- 00:37:27.268 --> 00:37:28.836
- Do you remember that? yes. i remember
- 00:37:28.836 --> 00:37:30.237
- My grandparents. nobody knew.
- 00:37:30.237 --> 00:37:31.505
- You had no idea what they were
- 00:37:31.505 --> 00:37:32.873
- Yes. that was just something
- 00:37:32.873 --> 00:37:33.974
- That's none of your business.
- 00:37:33.974 --> 00:37:35.142
- You know, and now it's just so horrible.
- 00:37:35.142 --> 00:37:39.513
- I was thinking
- 00:37:39.513 --> 00:37:40.247
- About president trump.
- 00:37:40.247 --> 00:37:41.949
- Let me let me see if i can get this out.
- 00:37:41.949 --> 00:37:44.418
- Um. and even if he even really
- 00:37:44.418 --> 00:37:46.420
- Knows what he's doing to in his heart.
- 00:37:46.420 --> 00:37:49.323
- I know what you mean.
- 00:37:49.323 --> 00:37:50.157
- You know what i mean?
- 00:37:50.157 --> 00:37:51.292
- Does he know the depth and the the breadth of what
- 00:37:51.292 --> 00:37:55.162
- He's really doing?
- 00:37:55.162 --> 00:37:57.264
- You know, i mean, it's a big, i think it's a big deal.
- 00:37:57.264 --> 00:38:00.267
- And i think we all just as christians, i think it's our
- 00:38:00.267 --> 00:38:05.873
- Time just to renew and stand firm.
- 00:38:05.873 --> 00:38:09.443
- The bible says to fight the good fight of faith.
- 00:38:09.443 --> 00:38:12.446
- And that is the only fight that
- 00:38:12.446 --> 00:38:13.981
- We need to do and that is standing.
- 00:38:13.981 --> 00:38:16.384
- That is standing with the helmet of salvation and the
- 00:38:16.384 --> 00:38:19.487
- Breastplate of righteousness, and the sword of the spirit,
- 00:38:19.487 --> 00:38:22.556
- Our feet shod with peace.
- 00:38:22.556 --> 00:38:24.392
- Yes. and that really
- 00:38:24.392 --> 00:38:26.327
- Supersedes politics or parties
- 00:38:26.327 --> 00:38:28.129
- Or anything else.
- 00:38:28.129 --> 00:38:29.397
- If you're anchored there, uh, you can go to washington and
- 00:38:29.397 --> 00:38:32.233
- You see this happen sometimes where somebody goes and they
- 00:38:32.233 --> 00:38:35.503
- Believes this, and then this changes and you see it in the
- 00:38:35.503 --> 00:38:38.072
- Arts and entertainment industry.
- 00:38:38.072 --> 00:38:39.206
- You see it across the board.
- 00:38:39.206 --> 00:38:40.708
- And i think sometimes if you're anchored just in your politics
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- Or anchored in a moral authority,
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- You're susceptible to being able to be tossed to and fro.
- 00:38:45.780 --> 00:38:49.216
- But when you're anchored in jesus christ, when you're
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- Anchored in that faith, that is the foundation that you need,
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- Whether you're in the political arena or anywhere else.
- 00:38:53.954 --> 00:38:56.123
- You know, i remember going to singapore back in 2010.
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- It was that big pastor's thing that we were-- and we did tons
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- Of interviews with pastors all over that region.
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- And so many of them lived in muslim countries.
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- And, and they spoke about how they could never say anything
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- About their faith, but they had to show it.
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- Yes. and so they would help.
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- They would help.
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- I mean, i remember pastors saying, we helped them build
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- Their mosques, you know, and then they come to us and go,
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- What is it about you?
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- Why are you-- different?
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- Different? yes.
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- And so it was by their works, their good works, that they saw
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- Christ and wanted that, you know, and that's how they
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- Shared the gospel because they couldn't say
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- Anything about it
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- Unless they were questioned about it or asked about it.
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- And i was always moved that how do we, how do i live?
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- I can't talk about you, but how do i live that people see
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- Something in me and go, okay, there's something that you have
- 00:39:57.117 --> 00:40:00.054
- That i don't, you know, and that's abiding in christ.
- 00:40:00.054 --> 00:40:03.424
- That's that's the holy spirit and the fruit of the spirit,
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- The love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness,
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- Goodness, faith,
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- Hopeless-- hopeless? that too.
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- You know them.
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- All those fruits. we can only have if we're living
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- By the holy spirit. yes.
- 00:40:17.605 --> 00:40:19.173
- And that is the holy spirit.
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- And letting people see what god has done in the transformation
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- In our lives to bring about transformation in their life.
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- Yes. if i may carry on
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- With that point. you may.
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- You know, one of the things that i did not see coming is
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- When i got to congress, how god would allow us to form some
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- Relationships in our minority communities and to be able to
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- Build authentic relationships there.
- 00:40:42.096 --> 00:40:43.998
- And sometimes we want to say this party is that or
- 00:40:43.998 --> 00:40:46.033
- This party is that.
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- But i'm very privileged to be, if i sound self-flagellating,
- 00:40:47.334 --> 00:40:51.138
- But the only republican in the country who has won the united
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- Negro college president's award, who's given the
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- Commencement at one of our nation's hbcus,
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- I'm grateful for the opportunity to have those
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- Kinds of relationships.
- 00:41:02.316 --> 00:41:03.584
- And it's to your point, not that we've certainly been
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- Perfect, but trying to think about how do we live in a
- 00:41:06.120 --> 00:41:09.924
- Way that is exemplary of christ, were those
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- Fruits of the spirit?
- 00:41:11.759 --> 00:41:13.093
- Because ultimately that authenticity, people see that.
- 00:41:13.093 --> 00:41:16.330
- Yeah. are you just using talking points, or is this
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- Something really that the holy
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- Spirit is directing from your heart?
- 00:41:19.733 --> 00:41:21.535
- And that's one of the things i think we should continue to
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- Strive to moving forward.
- 00:41:23.437 --> 00:41:24.905
- About an hour ago, your point started with this moment of
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- Saying, you said--
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- On camera or off camera?
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- No. just now.
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- Yeah, an hour ago. just now.
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- Oh my gosh.
- 00:41:37.751 --> 00:41:38.819
- Let me tell you what you were starting to say.
- 00:41:38.819 --> 00:41:41.789
- You were saying,
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- You were saying that politics has moved into our world.
- 00:41:43.824 --> 00:41:50.164
- Yes. not that we have chosen to move into politics.
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- To make it a political statement.
- 00:41:55.002 --> 00:41:57.338
- All of a sudden, a lot of issues are just in our lap now.
- 00:41:57.338 --> 00:42:03.043
- And and that's what it wasn't.
- 00:42:03.043 --> 00:42:05.946
- It didn't used to be that way.
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- That was your, you know, think of your--
- 00:42:08.148 --> 00:42:10.317
- Think of your--
- 00:42:10.317 --> 00:42:11.585
- Think of your granddad, you know, who worked in sears, you
- 00:42:11.585 --> 00:42:16.223
- Know, had a career at sears all of his life.
- 00:42:16.223 --> 00:42:19.226
- And she had no idea how he voted, you know, and there was,
- 00:42:19.226 --> 00:42:23.063
- It was always just, uh, there was a separation there.
- 00:42:23.063 --> 00:42:28.102
- And the church did its thing and the politics did its thing
- 00:42:28.102 --> 00:42:32.906
- And, you know, at some point, you know, you, you could
- 00:42:34.008 --> 00:42:39.713
- Have, you know, it's more complex than this, but politics
- 00:42:39.713 --> 00:42:43.884
- Really should keep the toilets flushing.
- 00:42:43.884 --> 00:42:46.086
- Mhm. keep the lights on.
- 00:42:46.086 --> 00:42:47.655
- The roads paved, and keep the
- 00:42:47.655 --> 00:42:49.356
- Potholes filled. protect our country.
- 00:42:49.356 --> 00:42:50.891
- Yes, yes.
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- Yeah. i understand that there's a much bigger issue there, but
- 00:42:52.192 --> 00:42:54.662
- But at some point, you know, you you can't get in your car
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- And drive out of here and not be grateful that there's a
- 00:42:59.033 --> 00:43:02.670
- Government because i didn't pave that road out there
- 00:43:02.670 --> 00:43:06.206
- But i'm driving on a smooth road when i get out of here,
- 00:43:06.206 --> 00:43:09.209
- You know, and that's a freeway and it leads me-- and there's a
- 00:43:09.209 --> 00:43:11.912
- Traffic signal keep me from running into people.
- 00:43:11.912 --> 00:43:14.682
- You know, there, there is so many great things
- 00:43:14.682 --> 00:43:19.219
- To be grateful for.
- 00:43:19.219 --> 00:43:21.855
- And we, man, we're really good at inciting incidents and
- 00:43:21.855 --> 00:43:28.429
- Trying to, uh, create big divides when as americans, we
- 00:43:28.429 --> 00:43:34.735
- Should say we all drive on roads.
- 00:43:34.735 --> 00:43:37.604
- Yes. and you know what?
- 00:43:37.604 --> 00:43:38.539
- We all flush a toilet and are grateful
- 00:43:38.539 --> 00:43:41.709
- It's there and it works.
- 00:43:41.709 --> 00:43:42.910
- It is a fair point.
- 00:43:42.910 --> 00:43:44.111
- My wife and i were talking about this recently, because
- 00:43:44.111 --> 00:43:46.280
- It's very tempting when you go into certain circles that you
- 00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.749
- Can just toss so much red meat out there, because that's where
- 00:43:48.749 --> 00:43:51.819
- The preaching to the choir, that's where all the standing
- 00:43:51.819 --> 00:43:54.021
- Applause are.
- 00:43:54.021 --> 00:43:54.988
- But i was talking, i said, you know what?
- 00:43:54.988 --> 00:43:56.256
- At the end of that speech or whatever we're doing, do people
- 00:43:56.256 --> 00:43:59.560
- Still see christ? when you walk away,
- 00:43:59.560 --> 00:44:02.429
- Can they still say, i may not even agree with him on
- 00:44:02.429 --> 00:44:04.732
- Everything, but that person's a
- 00:44:04.732 --> 00:44:06.200
- Follower of jesus christ. ultimately,
- 00:44:06.200 --> 00:44:08.402
- That's what we're called to do. yeah.
- 00:44:08.402 --> 00:44:10.537
- America was founded on faith and prayer.
- 00:44:10.537 --> 00:44:12.840
- We're carrying that legacy forward as we bring you
- 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.809
- Rededicate 250, a national
- 00:44:15.809 --> 00:44:18.212
- Jubilee of prayer, praise and thanksgiving.
- 00:44:18.212 --> 00:44:20.781
- Join voices of faith, reverend franklin graham, reverend
- 00:44:20.781 --> 00:44:23.317
- Samuel rodriguez, pastor jentezen franklin, plus
- 00:44:23.317 --> 00:44:25.786
- Government leaders including house speaker mike johnson,
- 00:44:25.786 --> 00:44:28.155
- Secretary of war pete hegseth, former hud secretary
- 00:44:28.155 --> 00:44:30.791
- Doctor ben carson, and more.
- 00:44:30.791 --> 00:44:32.726
- Don't miss this historic moment.
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- May 17th, 1230 to 7 p.m.
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- Eastern on tbn and tbn+ live stream. rededicate 250,
- 00:44:37.164 --> 00:44:44.571
- My understanding is there's two big--
- 00:44:45.339 --> 00:44:48.542
- You know, the government's big.
- 00:44:48.542 --> 00:44:50.310
- You might know that.
- 00:44:50.310 --> 00:44:51.311
- Yeah, it's big.
- 00:44:51.311 --> 00:44:52.212
- They're too big for my comfort. yeah.
- 00:44:52.212 --> 00:44:54.381
- But but there was this very long standing america 250.
- 00:44:54.381 --> 00:44:59.620
- Mhm.
- 00:44:59.620 --> 00:45:00.621
- And it and it got very big and cumbersome.
- 00:45:00.621 --> 00:45:03.123
- And this sounds like something donald trump would do.
- 00:45:03.123 --> 00:45:06.560
- He just started freedom 250.
- 00:45:06.560 --> 00:45:08.562
- Yes. because he didn't want to have to work inside the
- 00:45:08.562 --> 00:45:11.198
- Politics of, of another organization.
- 00:45:11.198 --> 00:45:14.268
- So there's two big giant organizations.
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- One is called america 250, ones
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- Is freedom 250.
- 00:45:18.972 --> 00:45:20.374
- So over the weekend, there's some america 250 events and
- 00:45:20.374 --> 00:45:24.344
- Some freedom 250 events.
- 00:45:24.344 --> 00:45:26.013
- And so there's a little bit different kind of leadership
- 00:45:26.013 --> 00:45:28.715
- In regard to that.
- 00:45:28.715 --> 00:45:29.883
- I didn't even know that.
- 00:45:29.883 --> 00:45:31.418
- It doesn't really largely matter.
- 00:45:31.418 --> 00:45:33.253
- But the freedom 250 is the more nimble group.
- 00:45:33.253 --> 00:45:39.359
- I think vince haley is largely in control of a lot of that.
- 00:45:39.359 --> 00:45:42.996
- Dave donaldson um, and and, and dave's, uh, been sitting in the
- 00:45:42.996 --> 00:45:49.603
- Chair you're sitting in and, and with my mom and dad.
- 00:45:49.603 --> 00:45:53.607
- Okay.
- 00:45:53.607 --> 00:45:54.908
- So dave goes way back and, and i met with him recently in, in
- 00:45:54.908 --> 00:45:59.246
- Nashville and started getting it organized that we would have
- 00:45:59.246 --> 00:46:02.816
- A broadcast booth from the mall.
- 00:46:02.816 --> 00:46:07.087
- So there's a big main stage and then there's a broadcast booth.
- 00:46:07.087 --> 00:46:11.258
- And i think fox news has a
- 00:46:11.258 --> 00:46:13.026
- Piece and maybe somebody else does.
- 00:46:13.026 --> 00:46:14.795
- And we do.
- 00:46:14.795 --> 00:46:16.029
- We'll be broadcasting for hours and hours and hours in the
- 00:46:16.029 --> 00:46:19.333
- Coming days.
- 00:46:19.333 --> 00:46:20.567
- And in fact, i'll see you again tomorrow in washington.
- 00:46:20.567 --> 00:46:23.604
- So what do you think the
- 00:46:23.604 --> 00:46:25.873
- Importance of this rededication is?
- 00:46:25.873 --> 00:46:28.041
- What's going on inside of
- 00:46:28.041 --> 00:46:29.710
- You for this anticipation of this?
- 00:46:29.710 --> 00:46:33.247
- I guess what excites me is a time to reflect.
- 00:46:33.247 --> 00:46:36.783
- Um, my wife gets after me because i'm not a real stop and
- 00:46:36.783 --> 00:46:39.720
- Smell the roses type guy.
- 00:46:39.720 --> 00:46:41.521
- I'm like, okay, what's next?
- 00:46:41.521 --> 00:46:42.623
- We got to get it done.
- 00:46:42.623 --> 00:46:43.891
- Um, but i do think this is an honest moment because if you
- 00:46:43.891 --> 00:46:47.361
- Reflect as far as where we have been, the judeo-christian
- 00:46:47.361 --> 00:46:50.497
- Principles, the amount of wonderful people, godly people
- 00:46:50.497 --> 00:46:53.533
- That god has raised up generation after generation.
- 00:46:53.533 --> 00:46:56.270
- I think it's good to pause sometimes and reflect on that.
- 00:46:56.270 --> 00:46:59.172
- So for me this weekend, i'm really excited about just
- 00:46:59.172 --> 00:47:02.709
- Taking a moment, a few moments here and there, whether it's
- 00:47:02.709 --> 00:47:04.912
- With you or with others, to think about how all the
- 00:47:04.912 --> 00:47:07.381
- Different times, even sometimes in our country's history
- 00:47:07.381 --> 00:47:09.983
- Moments were perilous.
- 00:47:09.983 --> 00:47:11.752
- But somehow god worked through those times, both as a country,
- 00:47:11.752 --> 00:47:15.389
- Both as a faith community.
- 00:47:15.389 --> 00:47:17.557
- So i'm looking forward to hearing some of those stories
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- And participating in some of those stories, to really
- 00:47:20.193 --> 00:47:22.763
- Reflecting on how god has truly blessed this country.
- 00:47:22.763 --> 00:47:25.666
- Mhm. so, mark, look, um, we're kind
- 00:47:25.666 --> 00:47:28.869
- Of needing to land the plane here.
- 00:47:28.869 --> 00:47:32.239
- Sure. um, i just want to say we'll see you tomorrow night.
- 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:37.778
- Uh, friday night, the 15th.
- 00:47:37.778 --> 00:47:40.981
- We'll see you from 101
- 00:47:40.981 --> 00:47:43.317
- Constitution. lots of guests, uh, scheduled for a kind of
- 00:47:43.317 --> 00:47:47.487
- Elongated praise program on saturday.
- 00:47:47.487 --> 00:47:50.424
- We'll see you there for good neighbor day.
- 00:47:50.424 --> 00:47:52.693
- Um, that's probably broadcasting from the mall.
- 00:47:52.693 --> 00:47:56.997
- Um, we're still organizing that. doesn't matter.
- 00:47:56.997 --> 00:48:01.335
- Uh, it's coming from all over the united states, by the way,
- 00:48:01.335 --> 00:48:04.271
- These really great things and surprise guests and really,
- 00:48:04.271 --> 00:48:08.241
- Really, really great stuff.
- 00:48:08.241 --> 00:48:10.444
- Pastor jentzen is one of the sunday speakers and many and
- 00:48:10.444 --> 00:48:13.914
- Many, many others. that'll be a great weekend.
- 00:48:13.914 --> 00:48:15.415
- Yeah, but the rededicate thing.
- 00:48:15.415 --> 00:48:17.250
- So we're--
- 00:48:17.250 --> 00:48:18.318
- If you're not doing anything,
- 00:48:18.318 --> 00:48:19.386
- Come on down to dc.
- 00:48:19.386 --> 00:48:21.388
- Or sit back comfortably in your own home and watch it on tbn,
- 00:48:21.388 --> 00:48:25.726
- Which is easier because we'll be live.
- 00:48:25.726 --> 00:48:28.762
- What i like to do. okay.
- 00:48:28.762 --> 00:48:30.964
- Yeah. since you are watching.
- 00:48:30.964 --> 00:48:32.933
- So um, do this.
- 00:48:32.933 --> 00:48:35.936
- Um, we don't have to wait till sunday to rededicate america.
- 00:48:35.936 --> 00:48:39.606
- You can do that right now in prayer for our audience.
- 00:48:39.606 --> 00:48:42.142
- You can do whatever you want.
- 00:48:42.142 --> 00:48:43.410
- Pray for our audience.
- 00:48:43.410 --> 00:48:45.145
- Um, seal this program in prayer.
- 00:48:45.145 --> 00:48:48.048
- What do you want to see happen this weekend?
- 00:48:48.048 --> 00:48:50.484
- I really want us to see a time where maybe the rhetoric, maybe
- 00:48:50.484 --> 00:48:56.957
- The language back and forth can at least be put on pause
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- For a few days.
- 00:49:01.428 --> 00:49:03.363
- And kind of, as we talked about, kind of reflect as far
- 00:49:03.363 --> 00:49:06.266
- As the goodness of god, as far
- 00:49:06.266 --> 00:49:07.968
- As how he's blessed our country.
- 00:49:07.968 --> 00:49:09.169
- That's what i'm hoping comes out of this.
- 00:49:09.169 --> 00:49:10.804
- And, and you always pray that way and trust god that he
- 00:49:10.804 --> 00:49:13.607
- Will do exactly that.
- 00:49:13.607 --> 00:49:14.775
- Pray for our folks right now.
- 00:49:14.775 --> 00:49:16.043
- Love to. if you would, please.
- 00:49:16.043 --> 00:49:17.044
- Father god, we pause just for a moment today.
- 00:49:17.044 --> 00:49:20.080
- Lord, we thank you for your goodness.
- 00:49:20.080 --> 00:49:22.015
- We thank you that we can literally see your handiwork on
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- This country these last 250 years.
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- This is a time that we pause, that we reflect.
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- We rededicate all the different works that you have done in
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- This country.
- 00:49:35.128 --> 00:49:36.196
- Lord, you've raised up this country.
- 00:49:36.196 --> 00:49:38.165
- You've literally put your hand on it to be a beacon of hope
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- And light, to take the gospel message of your son, jesus
- 00:49:40.767 --> 00:49:44.037
- Christ, to more places than we can ever imagine or even count.
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- We thank you that this country
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- Has been willing to make those sacrifices.
- 00:49:49.276 --> 00:49:51.778
- And lord, you tell us in proverbs three that even so,
- 00:49:51.778 --> 00:49:55.582
- Sometimes the way forward looks rocky,
- 00:49:55.582 --> 00:49:57.684
- You've told us that when we trust in you, you make our
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- Paths straight.
- 00:50:00.487 --> 00:50:01.788
- So today we claim that, reclaim that promise, this rededication
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- Time, lord, this weekend that you would work in a mighty way
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- Where man could not deny that this is something that is that
- 00:50:09.029 --> 00:50:12.866
- Is being led literally by the holy spirit.
- 00:50:12.866 --> 00:50:15.235
- Lord, we pray that you would continue to raise up men and
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- Women that would stand in the gap, that would be firm on
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- Their commitment, that the world could see the difference
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- In knowing jesus christ.
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- Lord, we thank you for matt and laurie.
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- I pray a blessing for them.
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- Lord, i pray they would continue to receive the support
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- That's needed here to continue the furtherance of the gospel
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- Message of the name that we pray in today,
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- The name of jesus christ. amen.
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- Amen.
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- You know, our pastor has been
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- Talking a lot about celebration.
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- Yes. and to celebrate, and when you start thinking of of
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- America and the people that have fought for our country, i
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- Don't know that there's a family out there that doesn't
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- Have someone that has served in our, in our great military.
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- And, um, thank you.
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- Thank you for your sacrifices, for everything that the wives
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- And the children have gone through and the families,
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- Parents and all that.
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- But when you start talking about the goodness of god in
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- Our country, you start thinking, you start way back
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- When they taught the generations after them.
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- Yes.
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- You know, and that's how the gospel is spread.
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- And that's how god,
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- The name of god spread as by us teaching the next
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- Generations and the celebration
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- Of how far this country has come.
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- I mean, i mean, look at this great nation
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- And although,
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- Although it seems sometimes you just think, oh, man, it's just
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- Going to hell in a hand basket,
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- It's not.
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- Well, laurie, you're right.
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- We've had some bumps in the road
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- Throughout our country's history.
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- But the great
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- Thing about america is that we've never quit trying to
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- Get it right. that's right.
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- And that's the hope that we can have in this process.
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- Right. and so i think we need to celebrate what god has done
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- In this country, how far the church has come.
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- I mean, think about america and the missions that have come
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- From america to the world.
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- You know, i think, i think we need to call some of those
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- Missionaries back to america.
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- Okay. we need we need it.
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- Yes we do.
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- But america has had such a hand in and all the countries
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- Around the world and sending the gospel around the world.
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- And so we have a lot to celebrate.
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- We have jesus to celebrate every weekend.
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- Love that today, right now.
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- So if we were all politicians and we had just finished a
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- Speech, we would say
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- Something like-- god bless you all.
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- God bless you and god bless the united states of america.
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- Sure. something like that, right?
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- Yeah. that's how you end it. yeah.
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- That's something like may
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- May god provide the path,
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- And may we have the courage to follow.
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- Something like that.
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- And we'll see you next time.
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- We'll see you tomorrow night and saturday and sunday.
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- ♪♪
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- Our nation was conceived by men and women who believed in the
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- Power of god, who believed in
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- The providence of god and in prayer.
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- We pray that we would fulfill the true meaning of our creed,
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- That we hold these truths to be self-evident.
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- But look what god has done.
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- We praise him and give him glory.
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- Our father and our god.
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- Thou hast said, blessed is the nation whose god is the lord.
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- Faith in god is the value that most shaped america and its
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- People of faith, who have been the bedrock, the driving force
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- Behind our nation.
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- We are celebrating what god has done in this great nation
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- Called america.
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