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August 4, 2025 | 55:30

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>> bill griffeth: looking
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>> bill griffeth: looking for a job?
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For a job? well, the u.s. has plenty.
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Well, the u.s. has plenty. >> judy woodruff: some
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>> judy woodruff: some employers say they can't
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Employers say they can't find enough skilled
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Find enough skilled workers for certain jobs.
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>> mike rowe: there's
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>> mike rowe: there's never been a better time
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Never been a better time to be an ambitious,
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To be an ambitious, well-trained plumber.
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Well-trained plumber. >> charles payne: do i
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>> charles payne: do i really want a $200,000
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Really want a $200,000 college debt when i could
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College debt when i could just go and get a skill
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Just go and get a skill and have a great life?
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>> mike: i'm addicted to
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>> mike: i'm addicted to smooth roads and indoor
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Smooth roads and indoor plumbing.
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>> steve hilton: tv host,
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>> steve hilton: tv host, mike rowe, founder and ceo
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Mike rowe, founder and ceo of mike rowe works foundation.
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Of mike rowe works foundation. >> mike: my foundation
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>> mike: my foundation focuses very specifically
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Focuses very specifically on learning a skill
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On learning a skill that's in demand.
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>> announcer: through his
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>> announcer: through his foundation, he's granted
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Foundation, he's granted over $5 million to help
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Over $5 million to help over 1,000 students pursue
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Over 1,000 students pursue a technical or vocational
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A technical or vocational education.
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Education. >> carla: my name is
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>> carla: my name is carla mc clellan.
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Carla mc clellan. >> victoria: my name is
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>> victoria: my name is victoria knight.
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Victoria knight. >> both: and i'm a work
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>> both: and i'm a work ethic scholarship recipient.
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Ethic scholarship recipient. (mike laughing robustly)
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(mike laughing robustly) (women screaming)
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(women screaming) >> mike: before covid,
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>> mike: before covid, there were 7.3 million
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There were 7.3 million open jobs, the majority of
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Open jobs, the majority of which didn't require a
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Which didn't require a four-year degree.
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Four-year degree. there are entire
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There are entire categories of work that
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Categories of work that are shrouded in mystery.
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Are shrouded in mystery. if we don't demystify them
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If we don't demystify them and de-stigmatize them,
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And de-stigmatize them, we're going to be waiting
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We're going to be waiting for plumbers and
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For plumbers and electricians for a long,
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Electricians for a long, long time.
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We are as a country
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We are as a country lending a lot of money we
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Lending a lot of money we don't have to a lot of
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Don't have to a lot of kids who are never going
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Kids who are never going to be able to pay it back
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To be able to pay it back to educate them for
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To educate them for careers that, frankly,
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Careers that, frankly, don't exist anymore.
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Don't exist anymore. >> matt crouch: there are
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>> matt crouch: there are 8,000,000 jobs waiting to
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8,000,000 jobs waiting to be filled in the
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Be filled in the united states that don't need
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United states that don't need a four-year degree and go
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A four-year degree and go into this massive debt.
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Into this massive debt. >> mike: the problem began
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>> mike: the problem began when we elevated a
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When we elevated a four-year degree above all
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Four-year degree above all other forms of learning.
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Other forms of learning. the problem got worse when
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The problem got worse when we took shop class out of
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We took shop class out of high school.
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High school. >> laurie crouch: i think
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>> laurie crouch: i think most good america loving
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Most good america loving people believe in this.
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People believe in this. >> mike: when did work
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>> mike: when did work become the enemy?
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Become the enemy? >> matt: wow!
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>> matt: wow! >> mike: when did that
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>> mike: when did that happen?
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Happen? i'm not exactly sure.
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♪ music
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♪ music the announcer: tonight on
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The announcer: tonight on praise, from colorado,
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Praise, from colorado, legendary tv host,
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Legendary tv host, writer, narrator and
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Writer, narrator and producer...
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Producer... mike rowe!
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Mike rowe! ♪ music
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♪ music and now...
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And now... matt & laurie crouch.
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Matt & laurie crouch. >> matt: mike rowe.
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>> matt: mike rowe. >> laurie: legendary
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>> laurie: legendary mike rowe.
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Mike rowe. >> mike: legendary?
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>> mike: legendary? >> laurie: how did you get
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>> laurie: how did you get that title?
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That title? >> mike: i think he gave
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>> mike: i think he gave it to me.
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It to me. it was clearly some sort
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It was clearly some sort of oversight.
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Of oversight. >> matt: we have been
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>> matt: we have been watching you on the
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Watching you on the discovery channel since my
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Discovery channel since my boys were about ten years
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Boys were about ten years old and about 13 years
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Old and about 13 years old.
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Old. we have virtually seen
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We have virtually seen every single "dirty jobs"
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Every single "dirty jobs" episode there were.
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Episode there were. and--
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And-- >> laurie: i enjoyed
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>> laurie: i enjoyed every moment of it.
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Every moment of it. >> mike: your taste is
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>> mike: your taste is sophisticated and
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Sophisticated and elevated, obviously,
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Elevated, obviously, laurie.
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Laurie. (laughter)
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>> matt: so recently,
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>> matt: so recently, you've been making the
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You've been making the rounds in the news
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Rounds in the news organizations.
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Organizations. you are showing up and you
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You are showing up and you are kind of talking about
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Are kind of talking about work.
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Work. you're talking about work
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You're talking about work ethic.
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Ethic. you're talking about
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You're talking about skills gaps.
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Give us a minute of it.
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Give us a minute of it. this is kind of a
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This is kind of a cathedral to work.
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Cathedral to work. this is a working barn
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This is a working barn here in colorado.
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Here in colorado. and this is a perfect
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And this is a perfect place to hear you talk.
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Place to hear you talk. let me correct myself.
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Let me correct myself. perfect place to hear you
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Perfect place to hear you rant about this.
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Rant about this. >> laurie: do it.
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>> laurie: do it. >> mike: i don't want to rant.
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>> mike: i don't want to rant. but here's the short
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But here's the short version, "dirty jobs" was
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Version, "dirty jobs" was a tribute to my
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A tribute to my grandfather.
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Grandfather. he was a guy who we've
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He was a guy who we've discussed before who could
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Discussed before who could build a house without a
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Build a house without a blueprint.
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Blueprint. dropped out of the seventh
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Dropped out of the seventh grade to work.
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Grade to work. by the time he was 30, he
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By the time he was 30, he could fix anything, build
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Could fix anything, build anything.
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Anything. that's what "dirty jobs"
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That's what "dirty jobs" was a tribute to.
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Was a tribute to. four or five years into
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Four or five years into the show i started a
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The show i started a foundation called
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Foundation called "mike rowe works,"
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"mike rowe works," which was sort of the
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Which was sort of the next level of that
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Next level of that celebration of work.
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Celebration of work. "mike rowe works"
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"mike rowe works" evolved because work
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Evolved because work in the eyes of many
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In the eyes of many has become the enemy.
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Has become the enemy. and, that is an
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And, that is an unfortunate thing.
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So, i began to look for
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So, i began to look for jobs that existed that,
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Jobs that existed that, for whatever reason,
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For whatever reason, nobody was excited about
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Nobody was excited about pursuing.
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Pursuing. those are the jobs and the
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Those are the jobs and the skills' gap.
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So back in 2008, those
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So back in 2008, those jobs consisted of 2.3
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Jobs consisted of 2.3 million opportunities.
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Million opportunities. they didn't require a
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They didn't require a four-year degree.
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Four-year degree. they required training.
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They required training. my organization is called
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My organization is called "mike rowe works"
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It's fundamentally a pr
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It's fundamentally a pr campaign for good
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Campaign for good opportunities that don't
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Opportunities that don't require a four-year
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Require a four-year degree, but do require a
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Degree, but do require a commitment to work and get
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Commitment to work and get trained.
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Trained. program today.
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Program today. we award a million dollars
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We award a million dollars a year to people who want
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A year to people who want to pursue these skills.
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To pursue these skills. and, i'm here today
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And, i'm here today because unfortunately it
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Because unfortunately it does seem as though work
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Does seem as though work ethic and a lot of the
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Ethic and a lot of the things we were all raised
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Things we were all raised with, a lot of ideas like
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With, a lot of ideas like delayed gratification and
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Delayed gratification and a positive attitude and
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A positive attitude and things like that,
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Things like that, are under a weird kind
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Are under a weird kind of assault.
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>> laurie: yeah.
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>> laurie: yeah. >> matt: that was some
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>> matt: that was some kind of a red line that
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Kind of a red line that got crossed for you.
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Got crossed for you. >> mike: yeah, for me.
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>> mike: yeah, for me. because one of the things
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Because one of the things we try to do in "mike rowe
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We try to do in "mike rowe works" is affirmatively
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Works" is affirmatively reward work ethic.
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Reward work ethic. so we have a sweat pledge,
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So we have a sweat pledge, among other things, that
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Among other things, that people need to sign if
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People need to sign if they want to apply for a
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They want to apply for a scholarship.
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Scholarship. well, in the past few
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Well, in the past few months it became obvious
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Months it became obvious that some of the tenets in
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That some of the tenets in that pledge, some of the
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That pledge, some of the underlying philosophies i
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Underlying philosophies i hold dear have, in fact,
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Hold dear have, in fact, become questioned.
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Become questioned. i'm not sure why,
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I'm not sure why, honestly.
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Honestly. but, it's happening.
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But, it's happening. and so, we're trying to
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And so, we're trying to pushback a bit.
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Pushback a bit. >> matt: okay,
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>> matt: okay, "skill and work ethic aren't
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"skill and work ethic aren't taboo."
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Taboo." that is an acronym
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That is an acronym that spells what?
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That spells what? >> mike: it's s.w.e.a.t.
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>> mike: it's s.w.e.a.t. this thing started very
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This thing started very modestly.
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I just wanted to sit down
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I just wanted to sit down and articulate a dozen
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And articulate a dozen qualities, a dozen
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Qualities, a dozen attributes that i believe
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Attributes that i believe would help anybody succeed.
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Would help anybody succeed. and i had to call it
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And i had to call it something.
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Something. and because our
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And because our overarching assumption was
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That things like skill and
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That things like skill and work ethic were important
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Work ethic were important but lacking, i called it
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But lacking, i called it the s.w.e.a.t. pledge.
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The s.w.e.a.t. pledge. they hang in guidance
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They hang in guidance counselors' offices today.
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Counselors' offices today. they hang in bedrooms.
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They hang in bedrooms. it's an attempt to start a
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It's an attempt to start a conversation around some
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Conversation around some of the ideas that are
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Of the ideas that are important to our
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Important to our foundation.
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Foundation. if you haven't noticed,
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If you haven't noticed, america is getting back to
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America is getting back to work.
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Work. and, if you're the kind of
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And, if you're the kind of person who's willing to
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Person who's willing to learn a skill that's in
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Learn a skill that's in demand, the opportunities
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Demand, the opportunities have never been better.
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Have never been better. ♪ music
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♪ music >> miguel: work ethic is a
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>> miguel: work ethic is a part of me.
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Part of me. it just comes out naturally.
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It just comes out naturally. >> i knew i loved fixing
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>> i knew i loved fixing things around my house.
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Things around my house. >> growing up, i always
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>> growing up, i always helped my dad.
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Helped my dad. >> mike: it's a joy to be
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>> mike: it's a joy to be able to see something not
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Able to see something not working and after you
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Working and after you touched it it works.
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Touched it it works. >> miguel: when i was a
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>> miguel: when i was a kid i used to purposely
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Kid i used to purposely clog drains so i could
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Clog drains so i could have the maintenance guy
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Have the maintenance guy come out to the apartments
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Come out to the apartments and look at how he was
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And look at how he was doing the work.
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Doing the work. >> mike: everything that i
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>> mike: everything that i worked for, everything
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Worked for, everything that i studied, everything
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That i studied, everything that i know is coming to
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That i know is coming to good use.
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Good use. >> if you don't go get it
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>> if you don't go get it yourself, nobody's gonna
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Yourself, nobody's gonna give it to you.
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Give it to you. so, put your nose to the
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So, put your nose to the grindstone and make
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Grindstone and make something for yourself.
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Something for yourself. >> i decided to go back to
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>> i decided to go back to construction school.
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Construction school. i think i can turn this
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I think i can turn this into a hobby that pays.
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Into a hobby that pays. >> i've made four times as
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>> i've made four times as much in this short amount
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Much in this short amount of time than i made a year
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Of time than i made a year at my previous job.
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At my previous job. >> mike: have you ever met
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>> mike: have you ever met a welder that makes six
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A welder that makes six figures?
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Figures? >> yes, i'm one of them.
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>> yes, i'm one of them. >> i would challenge any
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>> i would challenge any woman that's watching the
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Woman that's watching the "home improvement" show,
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"home improvement" show, you could swing a 12-pound
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You could swing a 12-pound sledge and knock down a
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Sledge and knock down a wall, and it's fun.
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Wall, and it's fun. >> don't be the best
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>> don't be the best female welder, be the best
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Female welder, be the best welder and you cannot be
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Welder and you cannot be denied.
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Denied. >> mike: since i was
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>> mike: since i was little, i've had the dream
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Little, i've had the dream of owning my own shop.
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Of owning my own shop. and i don't think it's
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And i don't think it's ever gonna change.
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Ever gonna change. >> i started my own
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>> i started my own company about three and a
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Company about three and a half years ago.
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Half years ago. from there it's been six,
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From there it's been six, seven days a week since.
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>> being a woman, to own a
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>> being a woman, to own a construction company, is
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Construction company, is the most empowering
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The most empowering feeling.
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Feeling. >> mike: come on, america,
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>> mike: come on, america, let's get back to work.
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Let's get back to work. apply for a "work ethics
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Apply for a "work ethics scholarship" today at
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Scholarship" today at mikeroweworks.org.
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♪ music
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♪ music >> matt: how did this
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>> matt: how did this gap start?
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>> mike: well, a couple of
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>> mike: well, a couple of things are happening.
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Things are happening. i'm not an expert in it,
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I'm not an expert in it, but i'm pretty sure that
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But i'm pretty sure that it started with a
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It started with a well-intended attempt to
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Well-intended attempt to give colleges a boost.
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Give colleges a boost. four-year schools needed a
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Four-year schools needed a pr campaign back in the
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Pr campaign back in the 60's.
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60's. the country needed more
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The country needed more people getting into a
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People getting into a university.
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University. and so, we pushed that
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And so, we pushed that hard.
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Hard. we pushed it very hard.
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We pushed it very hard. unfortunately, part of the
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Unfortunately, part of the push was to say, if you
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Push was to say, if you don't go to a four-year
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Don't go to a four-year school, you're going to
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School, you're going to wind up turning a wrench
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Wind up turning a wrench or operating any of the
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Or operating any of the other tools you guys have
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Other tools you guys have here in this beautiful
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Here in this beautiful barn.
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Barn. and they made a whole
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And they made a whole category of jobs
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Category of jobs subordinate to one form of
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Subordinate to one form of education.
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Education. so the problem began when
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So the problem began when we elevated a four-year
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We elevated a four-year degree above all other
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Degree above all other forms of learning.
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Forms of learning. the problem got worse when
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The problem got worse when we took shop class out of
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We took shop class out of high school.
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High school. so now, by the time you
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So now, by the time you get to the mid, late 70's,
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Get to the mid, late 70's, the best path for the most
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The best path for the most people is universally
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People is universally embraced as the most
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Embraced as the most expensive path, and shop
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Expensive path, and shop class, the best entryway
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Class, the best entryway for millions of people
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For millions of people into the skilled trades
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Into the skilled trades has been removed from high
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Has been removed from high school.
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School. consequently, over the
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Consequently, over the next couple of decades, a
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Next couple of decades, a lot of people borrowed a
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Lot of people borrowed a lot of money to pursue a
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Lot of money to pursue a four-year degree.
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Four-year degree. so, to sum up, we are as a
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So, to sum up, we are as a country lending a lot of
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Country lending a lot of money we don't have to a
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Money we don't have to a lot of kids who are never
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Lot of kids who are never going to be able to pay it
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Going to be able to pay it back to educate them for
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Back to educate them for careers that, frankly,
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Careers that, frankly, don't exist anymore.
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Don't exist anymore. it's a mismatch.
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It's a mismatch. >> laurie: yeah, and
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>> laurie: yeah, and what's funny is all i hear
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What's funny is all i hear about what they're being
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About what they're being taught in universities is--
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Taught in universities is-- >> mike: not something
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>> mike: not something maybe you want
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Maybe you want your kids to learn?
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Your kids to learn? >> laurie: yeah.
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>> laurie: yeah. >> mike: look, it's a
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>> mike: look, it's a whole separate
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Whole separate conversation, laurie.
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Conversation, laurie. we can talk about safe
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We can talk about safe spaces and we can talk
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Spaces and we can talk about the snowflake
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About the snowflake culture.
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Culture. the universities have
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The universities have become, in my view, a
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Become, in my view, a pretty big and a pretty
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Pretty big and a pretty easy target.
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Easy target. i don't really want to go
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I don't really want to go there.
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There. i'm the product of a
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I'm the product of a four-year school.
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Four-year school. it served me well.
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It served me well. but, in 1984 when i
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But, in 1984 when i graduated from a community
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Graduated from a community college and then later a
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College and then later a four-year school, my total
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Four-year school, my total bill was a little less
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Bill was a little less than $12,000.
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Than $12,000. today, that same exact
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Today, that same exact course load, those same
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Course load, those same studies from those same
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Studies from those same schools, just over 90
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Schools, just over 90 grand.
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Grand. so never in the history of
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So never in the history of our country has anything,
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Our country has anything, so important, increased in
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So important, increased in cost so fast.
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Cost so fast. the cost of a four-year
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The cost of a four-year degree has risen faster
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Degree has risen faster than real estate, food,
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Than real estate, food, energy, even health care.
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Energy, even health care. so, we have this
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So, we have this incredibly expensive
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Incredibly expensive thing.
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Thing. we have a lot of wonderful
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We have a lot of wonderful universities who have been
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Universities who have been incentivized to charge as
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Incentivized to charge as much as they can, because
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Much as they can, because we have a bottomless well
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We have a bottomless well of money and we've told a
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Of money and we've told a whole generation of kids,
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Whole generation of kids, if you don't go in this
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If you don't go in this direction, you're in
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Direction, you're in terrible, terrible trouble.
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Terrible, terrible trouble. >> laurie: you'll never
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>> laurie: you'll never get a job.
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Get a job. >> mike: you'll never get
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>> mike: you'll never get there's eight million unfilled--
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There's eight million unfilled-- >> mike: sitting there--
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>> mike: sitting there-- >> matt: and, let's not
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>> matt: and, let's not politicize this too much,
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Politicize this too much, but, i do want to say this.
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But, i do want to say this. when i was a young person,
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When i was a young person, when i was a teenager, i
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When i was a teenager, i would turn on the tv, and
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Would turn on the tv, and there would be all sorts
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There would be all sorts of infomercials running
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Of infomercials running for devry university--
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For devry university-- >> mike: sure.
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>> mike: sure. >> matt: for truck driving
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>> matt: for truck driving schools.
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Schools. and welding schools.
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And welding schools. there would be all sorts
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There would be all sorts of trade.
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Of trade. so, it was a thing when i
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So, it was a thing when i was a teenager and a young
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Was a teenager and a young adult to, hey, it was a
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Adult to, hey, it was a career path at that point.
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Career path at that point. seems like that is-- that
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Seems like that is-- that got, let's say, policied
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Got, let's say, policied into oblivion.
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Into oblivion. >> mike: it's not just the
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>> mike: it's not just the policy.
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Policy. it's our whole
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It's our whole relationship with work.
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Relationship with work. we are becoming a
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We are becoming a different kind of economy.
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Different kind of economy. we are relying on other
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We are relying on other countries to make our
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Countries to make our stuff and other people to
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Stuff and other people to serve us.
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Serve us. and so, when we think of
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And so, when we think of it like that, then whole
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It like that, then whole categories of jobs become
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Categories of jobs become categorically unattractive
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Categorically unattractive to a lot of parents who
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To a lot of parents who want their kids to do
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Want their kids to do something better than
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Something better than drive a truck or build a
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Drive a truck or build a barn or lay a foundation.
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Barn or lay a foundation. they want something
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They want something better.
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Better. the problem is, they don't
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The problem is, they don't know what better is.
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Know what better is. the myths, the
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The myths, the misperceptions, the
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Misperceptions, the stigmas and the
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Stigmas and the stereotypes that routinely
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Stereotypes that routinely discourage millions of
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Discourage millions of kids from exploring these
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Kids from exploring these trades, those things are
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Trades, those things are real.
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And what my foundation
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And what my foundation tries to do with just
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Tries to do with just simple facts and figures
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Simple facts and figures and say, look at the data.
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And say, look at the data. look at where the
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Look at where the opportunities are.
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Opportunities are. i can show you a path to a
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I can show you a path to a six figure career that
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Six figure career that starts with a $6,000
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Starts with a $6,000 welding certificate.
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Welding certificate. i can show you the people
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I can show you the people who have taken that path.
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Who have taken that path. i've interviewed many of
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I've interviewed many of them.
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Them. so, we just have to do a
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So, we just have to do a better job as a country, i
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Better job as a country, i think, in setting the
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Think, in setting the table.
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Table. making sure people
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Making sure people understand where the
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Opportunities are and get
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Opportunities are and get rid of this stigma, that
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Rid of this stigma, that if you don't have a
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If you don't have a four-year degree, you are
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Four-year degree, you are somehow gonna get the
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Somehow gonna get the booby prize.
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Booby prize. >> matt: if i was just
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>> matt: if i was just tuning in to this
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Tuning in to this broadcast, it would feel
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Broadcast, it would feel like there was another
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Like there was another shoe about to drop.
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Shoe about to drop. is it time?
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Is it time? can we announce your
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Can we announce your candidacy for president
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Candidacy for president 2024?
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2024? can we do that?
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Can we do that? can we go ahead and do it?
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Can we go ahead and do it? (laughter)
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(laughter) >> mike: i don't know what
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>> mike: i don't know what he's talking about.
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He's talking about. that's not happening.
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That's not happening. >> matt: wait.
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>> matt: wait. did you say governor or
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Did you say governor or president?
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President? you were telling me
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You were telling me earlier something about
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Earlier something about running for something.
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Running for something. >> mike: i'm just trying
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>> mike: i'm just trying to get my show renewed.
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To get my show renewed. okay.
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Okay. and then maybe, get the
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And then maybe, get the foundation to the next
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Foundation to the next life.
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Life. >> matt: so we're talking
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>> matt: so we're talking about a sweat pledge.
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About a sweat pledge. and we want to start
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And we want to start breaking it down.
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Breaking it down. and, then, since everyone
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And, then, since everyone is anticipating something,
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Guess what, we want you to
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Guess what, we want you to be involved in this sweat
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Be involved in this sweat pledge.
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Pledge. so what we're gonna talk
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So what we're gonna talk about today is really a
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About today is really a curriculum.
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Curriculum. we want to get some noise
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We want to get some noise being made about this
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Being made about this curriculum.
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Curriculum. mike is all about work.
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Mike is all about work. he's all about work ethic.
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He's all about work ethic. >> laurie: so is the bible.
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>> laurie: so is the bible. >> matt: exactly.
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>> matt: exactly. more than a decade ago,
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More than a decade ago, you created, of course
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You created, of course you're going to name it this,
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You're going to name it this, sweat pledge.
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Sweat pledge. okay?
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Okay? sweat, the acronym for:
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Sweat, the acronym for: "skill and work ethic
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"skill and work ethic aren't taboo."
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>> jade: my name is jade
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>> jade: my name is jade and this is chuck.
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And this is chuck. we're both on the
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We're both on the committee that reviews the
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Committee that reviews the work ethic scholarship
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Work ethic scholarship applications.
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Applications. >> chuck: you did great job.
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>> chuck: you did great job. it was really, really
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It was really, really great.
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Great. >> jade: we wanted to let
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>> jade: we wanted to let you know we loved your
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You know we loved your video.
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Video. we thought your
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We thought your application was fantastic.
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Application was fantastic. you will be receiving a
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You will be receiving a work ethic scholarship.
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Work ethic scholarship. >> oh, my god.
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>> oh, my god. thank you, guys, so much.
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Thank you, guys, so much. >> jade: and you will be a
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>> jade: and you will be a recipient this year.
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Recipient this year. >> oh, my god.
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>> oh, my god. >> gosh, thank you so much.
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>> gosh, thank you so much. that's very, very helpful.
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That's very, very helpful. >> oh, my gosh.
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>> oh, my gosh. (laughter)
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(laughter) >> thank you so much.
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>> thank you so much. i got it, grandma.
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I got it, grandma. i got the scholarship.
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I got the scholarship. >> matt: we as a network
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>> matt: we as a network want to be known about
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Want to be known about good, honest work.
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Good, honest work. we want to be responsible
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We want to be responsible for helping people
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For helping people understand that there are
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Understand that there are eight million jobs waiting
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Eight million jobs waiting to be filled in the united
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To be filled in the united states that don't need a
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States that don't need a four-year degree and to go
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Four-year degree and to go into this massive debt to
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Into this massive debt to get them.
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Get them. >> laurie: can i just say
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>> laurie: can i just say something?
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Something? i was sitting here awhile
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I was sitting here awhile ago thinking about all the
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Ago thinking about all the prayer requests and
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Prayer requests and comments that have come in
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Comments that have come in through the almost 50
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Through the almost 50 years now at tbn.
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Years now at tbn. years now at tbn.
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Years now at tbn. i have read thousands of
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I have read thousands of them saying, please pray
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Them saying, please pray that i can get a job, that
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That i can get a job, that i can find a job.
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I can find a job. i need a job.
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I need a job. pray that i can find a
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Pray that i can find a job.
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Job. there are so many jobs.
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There are so many jobs. the bible talks so much
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The bible talks so much about whatever you do with
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About whatever you do with your hands, do it as unto
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Your hands, do it as unto the lord.
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The lord. if they don't work they
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If they don't work they shouldn't eat, and you
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Shouldn't eat, and you should have plenty because
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Should have plenty because of your work to feed
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Of your work to feed others.
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Others. and so, there's so much
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And so, there's so much about this.
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About this. and you've broke down your
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And you've broke down your sweat pledge into
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Sweat pledge into 12 beautiful steps.
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12 beautiful steps. >> matt: yeah, but, answer
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>> matt: yeah, but, answer that whole-- there are
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That whole-- there are prayer requests coming in
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Prayer requests coming in as we're sitting here
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As we're sitting here about jobs.
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About jobs. what is the problem here?
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What is the problem here? >> mike: because our
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>> mike: because our fundamental relationship
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Fundamental relationship with work is broken.
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With work is broken. and our definition of what
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And our definition of what a good job is is
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A good job is is fractured.
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Fractured. on my way here, i stopped
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On my way here, i stopped in denver.
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In denver. i gave a talk to the
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I gave a talk to the national flooring
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National flooring association.
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Association. there is an association
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There is an association for everything.
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For everything. and this association
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And this association represents ma and pa
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Represents ma and pa companies that put your
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Companies that put your floors in.
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Floors in. any kind of floor, from
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Any kind of floor, from epoxy to wood to tile.
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Epoxy to wood to tile. whatever.
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Whatever. these organizations, these
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These organizations, these companies are small
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Companies are small businesses.
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Businesses. they estimate over the
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They estimate over the next five years the
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Next five years the companies represented at
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Companies represented at this conference i attended
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This conference i attended needs to hire 180,000
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Needs to hire 180,000 people in five years.
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People in five years. there is not a single
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There is not a single place in the country right
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Place in the country right now that these people
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Now that these people aren't aggressively
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Aren't aggressively hiring.
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Hiring. and many of their programs
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And many of their programs start with apprenticeships
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Start with apprenticeships at about 25 bucks an hour.
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At about 25 bucks an hour. their second giant
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Their second giant problem, the government is
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Problem, the government is paying tens of millions of
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Paying tens of millions of dollars to people not to
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Dollars to people not to work.
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Work. we are affirmatively
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We are affirmatively discouraging the very
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Discouraging the very thing we ought to be
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Thing we ought to be encouraging.
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Encouraging. and it's trickling down to
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And it's trickling down to the kinds of jobs that
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The kinds of jobs that allow a barn like this to
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Allow a barn like this to get built.
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Get built. a floor like this to get
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A floor like this to get poured.
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Poured. and we're creating, i'm
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And we're creating, i'm afraid, a terrible
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Afraid, a terrible problem.
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Problem. and it's not just for
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And it's not just for people who can't find
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People who can't find work, laurie.
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Work, laurie. and it's not just for
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And it's not just for employers who are
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Employers who are struggling to find those
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Struggling to find those people, in this case it's
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People, in this case it's for people who like
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For people who like floors, us.
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Floors, us. we're talking about a
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We're talking about a workforce that's out of
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Workforce that's out of balance.
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And if you don't think a
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And if you don't think a skills' gap is going to
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Skills' gap is going to create real problems for
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Create real problems for anybody who shares my
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Anybody who shares my addiction to solid floors
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Addiction to solid floors and indoor plumbing and
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And indoor plumbing and reliable electricity and
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Reliable electricity and smooth roads and runways,
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Smooth roads and runways, we're all in this.
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We're all in this. so, we have to think
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So, we have to think differently about work.
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Differently about work. and that's what my
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And that's what my foundation does and that's
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Foundation does and that's why i thought a sweat
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Why i thought a sweat pledge might be good way
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Pledge might be good way to start a conversation.
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Think about all we take
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Think about all we take for granted as a society.
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For granted as a society. we're no longer impressed
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We're no longer impressed with smooth roads, sturdy
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With smooth roads, sturdy foundations, affordable
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Foundations, affordable electricity, functioning
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Electricity, functioning red lights, or the miracle
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Red lights, or the miracle of modern plumbing.
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Of modern plumbing. we're no longer gobsmacked
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We're no longer gobsmacked by the fact that one and a
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By the fact that one and a half percent of the
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Half percent of the population feeds 300
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Population feeds 300 million people three times
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Million people three times a day.
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A day. we feel entitled to these
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We feel entitled to these things.
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Things. consequently, we don't
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Consequently, we don't appreciate the people who
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Appreciate the people who a make them all possible,
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A make them all possible, even though we depend upon
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Even though we depend upon them.
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Them. this overall lack of
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This overall lack of appreciation for skilled
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Appreciation for skilled labor has fueled all kinds
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Labor has fueled all kinds of myths and
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Of myths and misperceptions that
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Misperceptions that discourage people from
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Discourage people from exploring a legitimate
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Exploring a legitimate opportunity in the trades.
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Opportunity in the trades. that's why we have
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That's why we have millions of open jobs that
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Millions of open jobs that nobody aspires to.
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Nobody aspires to. the skills gap isn't a
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The skills gap isn't a mystery.
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Mystery. it's a reflection of what
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It's a reflection of what we value.
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We value. and what we value is a
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And what we value is a reflection of what we're
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Reflection of what we're grateful for.
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Grateful for. that's why the sweat
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That's why the sweat pledge starts with an
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Pledge starts with an attitude of gratitude.
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Attitude of gratitude. "i believe i've won the
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"i believe i've won the greatest lottery of all
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Greatest lottery of all time.
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Time. i'm alive.
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I'm alive. i walk the earth.
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I walk the earth. i live in america.
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I live in america. above all things, i'm
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Above all things, i'm grateful."
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Grateful." if you don't agree with
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If you don't agree with that, and if you don't
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That, and if you don't agree with any of the
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Agree with any of the other 11 tenets in the
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Other 11 tenets in the pledge, then what i
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Pledge, then what i politely tell those
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Politely tell those applicants is that this
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Applicants is that this particular pile of free
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Particular pile of free money is probably not for
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Money is probably not for you.
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You. and that's okay.
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>> matt: and that's a
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>> matt: and that's a scholarship that is coming
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Scholarship that is coming from your foundation.
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From your foundation. >> mike: correct.
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>> mike: correct. >> matt: just, in case you
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>> matt: just, in case you didn't get it in one
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Didn't get it in one sentence, mike rowe has a
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Sentence, mike rowe has a foundation.
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Foundation. "mike rowe works," he
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"mike rowe works," he gives scholarships for
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Gives scholarships for people that want to get a
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People that want to get a good job and you have to
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Good job and you have to sign a sweat pledge.
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Sign a sweat pledge. that was number one.
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That was number one. above all things,
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Above all things, i'm grateful.
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I'm grateful. >> mike: right.
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>> mike: right. you can't, in my opinion,
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You can't, in my opinion, anyway, it's very
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Anyway, it's very difficult to feel sorry
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Difficult to feel sorry for yourself.
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It's very difficult to
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It's very difficult to feel like a victim.
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Feel like a victim. it's very difficult to
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It's very difficult to have a bad day if are you
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Have a bad day if are you fundamentally grateful for
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Fundamentally grateful for what you've got.
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What you've got. look, this is not a new
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Look, this is not a new idea.
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Idea. i realize that.
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I realize that. there's lots of biblical
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There's lots of biblical reference for it and
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Reference for it and there's lots of common
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There's lots of common sense in it.
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Sense in it. but this notion, if you
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But this notion, if you forget to be grateful for
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Forget to be grateful for what you have, it's like
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What you have, it's like when you're shooting at a
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When you're shooting at a target at a great
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Target at a great distance.
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Distance. if you are off just by a
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If you are off just by a little, little, little
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Little, little, little tiny bit back here where
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Tiny bit back here where the trigger is, by the
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The trigger is, by the time that bullet gets to
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Time that bullet gets to where it's going, you'll
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Where it's going, you'll miss it by a mile.
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Miss it by a mile. it has to start somewhere.
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It has to start somewhere. and i think it starts with
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And i think it starts with gratitude.
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Gratitude. >> matt: number two.
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>> matt: number two. >> laurie: "i believe that
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>> laurie: "i believe that i am entitled to life,
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I am entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of
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Liberty and the pursuit of happiness, nothing more.
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Happiness, nothing more. i also understand that
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I also understand that happiness and the pursuit
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Happiness and the pursuit of happiness are not the
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Of happiness are not the same thing."
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Same thing." >> mike: correct.
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>> mike: correct. you have to enter the
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You have to enter the workplace.
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Workplace. and, the education place
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And, the education place with a realistic
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With a realistic expectation.
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Expectation. nobody promised you a rose
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Nobody promised you a rose garden.
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Garden. you have a chance to try.
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You have a chance to try. you have a chance to earn,
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You have a chance to earn, to work, to experience.
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To work, to experience. you have a choice to be
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You have a choice to be curious.
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Curious. or uncurious.
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Or uncurious. but it really comes down
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But it really comes down to the old idea that
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To the old idea that equality is critically
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Equality is critically important when it comes to
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Important when it comes to opportunity.
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Opportunity. equality of opportunity
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Equality of opportunity matters, equality of
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Matters, equality of outcome, that's a dream.
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Outcome, that's a dream. you can't guarantee the
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You can't guarantee the way a story ends.
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Way a story ends. you can only be a fair as
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You can only be a fair as you can making sure
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You can making sure everybody has an honest
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Everybody has an honest shot.
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Shot. my first job required me
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My first job required me to pick up vomit, clean
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To pick up vomit, clean toilets.
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Toilets. the pay was lousy and
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The pay was lousy and there were no benefits to
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There were no benefits to speak of.
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Speak of. and even though i worked
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And even though i worked 45 hours a week in the
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45 hours a week in the summer of 1980, i still
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Summer of 1980, i still didn't earn enough money
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Didn't earn enough money to support myself.
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To support myself. but that doesn't mean the
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But that doesn't mean the job itself was bad.
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Job itself was bad. because without that job,
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Because without that job, i wouldn't have this job.
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I wouldn't have this job. obviously, some jobs are
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Obviously, some jobs are more appealing than
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More appealing than others, some jobs pay
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Others, some jobs pay better, some jobs smell
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Better, some jobs smell better, some jobs are more
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Better, some jobs are more dangerous.
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Dangerous. some jobs are the rungs at
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Some jobs are the rungs at the bottom of the ladder.
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The bottom of the ladder. but those jobs are
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But those jobs are actually the most
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Actually the most important jobs because a
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Important jobs because a ladder with no rungs on
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Ladder with no rungs on the bottom is a very hard
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The bottom is a very hard ladder to climb.
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Ladder to climb. anyway, people love to
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Anyway, people love to talk about the differences
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Talk about the differences between good jobs and bad
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Between good jobs and bad jobs.
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Jobs. it's a trap.
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It's a trap. because all jobs are
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Because all jobs are opportunities.
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Opportunities. that's why there's no such
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That's why there's no such thing as a bad job.
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Thing as a bad job. i believe there's no such
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I believe there's no such thing as a bad job.
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Thing as a bad job. "i believe that all jobs
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"i believe that all jobs are opportunities and it's
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Are opportunities and it's up to me to make the best
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Up to me to make the best of them."
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Of them." ♪ music
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♪ music >> mike: "dirty jobs"
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>> mike: "dirty jobs" was a love letter to
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Was a love letter to work.
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Work. it wasn't, oh, no, look
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It wasn't, oh, no, look how dirty this job is.
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How dirty this job is. it was, yes, you're gonna
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It was, yes, you're gonna get dirty, but ask
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Get dirty, but ask yourself what happens if
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Yourself what happens if those people don't show up
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Those people don't show up to do that job?
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To do that job? civilization as we know it
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Civilization as we know it goes straight off the
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Goes straight off the rails.
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Rails. so number three is just a
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So number three is just a reminder to people that
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Reminder to people that opportunity always
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Opportunity always precedes the job itself.
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Precedes the job itself. and today, unfortunately,
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And today, unfortunately, of all the many things
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Of all the many things that divide our country,
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That divide our country, the thing that worries me
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The thing that worries me most is the number of
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Most is the number of people that genuinely
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People that genuinely believe that opportunity
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Believe that opportunity is dead.
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Is dead. it is not dead.
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Maybe opportunity is alive
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Maybe opportunity is alive and well.
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>> matt: "skill and work
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>> matt: "skill and work ethic aren't taboo."
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Ethic aren't taboo." mike, we're breaking down
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Mike, we're breaking down the sweat pledge.
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The sweat pledge. and the point here is that
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And the point here is that we want people involved
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We want people involved with it.
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So there's all sorts of
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So there's all sorts of graphics on the screen and
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Graphics on the screen and we want people involved
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We want people involved and that's it.
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And that's it. but number three
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But number three particularly connects to
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Particularly connects to what you did and what made
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What you did and what made you a household name,
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You a household name, which is "dirty jobs",
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Give a 30 second backstory
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Give a 30 second backstory for those that haven't
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For those that haven't heard it on why
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Heard it on why "dirty jobs" even exists.
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>> mike: "dirty jobs"
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>> mike: "dirty jobs" exists because my mother
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Exists because my mother called me one day when i
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Called me one day when i was working at cbs and she
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Was working at cbs and she said, "your father and
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Said, "your father and your grandfather, in
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Your grandfather, in particular, your
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Particular, your grandfather, he's 91 years
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Grandfather, he's 91 years old, he's not going to be
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Old, he's not going to be around forever, wouldn't
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Around forever, wouldn't it be great if he turned
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It be great if he turned on the tv one day and saw
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On the tv one day and saw doing something that
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Doing something that looked like work?"
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(laughter)
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(laughter) so the next day i took the
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So the next day i took the cameraman--
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Cameraman-- >> laurie: remember that?
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>> laurie: remember that? >> mike: --into the sewers of
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>> mike: --into the sewers of san francisco to profile a
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San francisco to profile a sewer inspector.
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That footage was
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That footage was disgusting and funny and
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Disgusting and funny and weirdly important.
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Weirdly important. i didn't know it was
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I didn't know it was important.
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Important. all i knew was i cut it
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All i knew was i cut it together and put it on the
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Together and put it on the air.
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And the next day i started
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And the next day i started getting hundreds of
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Getting hundreds of letters from people saying,
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Letters from people saying, "hey, you think that's
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"hey, you think that's disgusting,
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Disgusting, you should meet my uncle,
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You should meet my uncle, my brother, my cousin,
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My brother, my cousin, my sister, my mom, wait until
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My sister, my mom, wait until you see what they do."
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You see what they do." and i realized, this is back
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And i realized, this is back in 2002, there was a
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In 2002, there was a hunger in the country for
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Hunger in the country for people to share their
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People to share their work.
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Work. somehow or another, tv had
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Somehow or another, tv had ignored that.
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Ignored that. so i thought it might be
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So i thought it might be fun to go to places tv
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Fun to go to places tv cameras never go, to meet
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Cameras never go, to meet people who are never
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People who are never profiled, to get an honest
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Profiled, to get an honest understanding of what work
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Understanding of what work looked like.
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Looked like. that show was rooted in
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That show was rooted in modesty and based on
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Modesty and based on humility and giving the
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Humility and giving the viewer an honest look at
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Viewer an honest look at what work looked like.
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What work looked like. >> laurie: so every job
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>> laurie: so every job matters.
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Matters. >> mike: every job matters.
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>> mike: every job matters. it was way over
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It was way over 100-degrees down there.
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100-degrees down there. and the smell was much
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And the smell was much worse than anything i had
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Worse than anything i had ever encountered before or
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Ever encountered before or since.
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Since. through it all, though,
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Through it all, though, les cracked jokes and
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Les cracked jokes and laughed and told stories
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Laughed and told stories about his favorite
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About his favorite customers.
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Customers. at one point, dehydrated,
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At one point, dehydrated, covered in other people's
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Covered in other people's poop, i looked over at
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Poop, i looked over at les, and i said, "les, how
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Les, and i said, "les, how did you wind up here
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Did you wind up here exactly?"
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Exactly?" les shrugged and said,
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Les shrugged and said, "i don't know.
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"i don't know. i just wanted to try
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I just wanted to try something new.
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Something new. this was a job that needed
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This was a job that needed doing."
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Doing." "what did you do before
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"what did you do before this" i asked?
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This" i asked? "i was a psychologist,"
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"i was a psychologist," he said.
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He said. "you're kidding.
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"you're kidding. you retired from
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You retired from psychology to clean septic
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Psychology to clean septic tanks?
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Tanks? why?"
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Why?" without missing a beat,
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Without missing a beat, les smiles and says,
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Les smiles and says, "i guess i got tired of
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"i guess i got tired of dealing with other
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Dealing with other people's crap."
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People's crap." people love to say,
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People love to say, follow your passion.
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Follow your passion. it has a nice ring to it.
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It has a nice ring to it. if you're looking to be
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If you're looking to be satisfied in your work,
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Satisfied in your work, why wait for your dream
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Why wait for your dream job?
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Job? why not be passionate
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Why not be passionate about the job you have
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About the job you have right now?
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Right now? when les swanson decided
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When les swanson decided to try something new, at
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To try something new, at 55 years of age, he didn't
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55 years of age, he didn't search his heart to
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Search his heart to identify his wish
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Identify his wish fulfillment, he just
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Fulfillment, he just looked around and found a
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Looked around and found a job that needed doing.
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Job that needed doing. once he found that, he got
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Once he found that, he got the training he needed.
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The training he needed. then, he went to work.
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Then, he went to work. then, he learned to love it.
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Then, he learned to love it. today, les has a business
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Today, les has a business that is all his own and
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That is all his own and genuine job satisfaction.
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Genuine job satisfaction. but make no mistake.
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But make no mistake. he didn't follow his
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He didn't follow his passion into a septic tank.
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Passion into a septic tank. he brought it with him.
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He brought it with him. and prospered as a result.
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And prospered as a result. "i do not follow my passion.
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"i do not follow my passion. i bring it with me.
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I bring it with me. i believe that any job can
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I believe that any job can be done with passion and
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Be done with passion and enthusiasm."
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Enthusiasm." ♪ music
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♪ music >> mike: yeah, that's an
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>> mike: yeah, that's an important one and it's a
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Important one and it's a big problem for a lot of
00:28:56.891 --> 00:28:57.358
Big problem for a lot of people.
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People. a lot of people hitch on
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A lot of people hitch on that one.
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That one. because we're told today
00:29:00.628 --> 00:29:02.030
Because we're told today that the key to happiness,
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That the key to happiness, the key job satisfaction
00:29:03.932 --> 00:29:06.868
The key job satisfaction is to first identify the
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Is to first identify the thing that will make you
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Thing that will make you happy.
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Happy. then, we embark an on this
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Then, we embark an on this great quest to get to that
00:29:12.574 --> 00:29:14.075
Great quest to get to that place.
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Place. and, unfortunately, that
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And, unfortunately, that quest often involves
00:29:16.611 --> 00:29:18.246
Quest often involves borrowing large sums of
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Borrowing large sums of money to go to a school
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Money to go to a school somewhere to spend four
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Somewhere to spend four years, some would say
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Years, some would say getting indoctrinated.
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Getting indoctrinated. others would say getting a
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Others would say getting a broad-based liberal arts
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Broad-based liberal arts education.
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Education. call it what you will, by
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Call it what you will, by the time you get through
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The time you get through that, now you've got your
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That, now you've got your debt and you've got your
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Debt and you've got your degree and now you go out
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Degree and now you go out into the world to find the
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Into the world to find the thing that will make your
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Thing that will make your passion sing, but it's all
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Passion sing, but it's all backwards.
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Backwards. the big lesson on
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The big lesson on "dirty jobs", was,
00:29:46.608 --> 00:29:47.842
"dirty jobs", was, those people were happy.
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Those people were happy. they were passionate about
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They were passionate about what they did.
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What they did. but nobody was doing
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But nobody was doing anything that the average
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Anything that the average person would look at and
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Person would look at and say, "oh, yeah, that's
00:29:55.016 --> 00:29:55.984
Say, "oh, yeah, that's what i want to do,"
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What i want to do," including them.
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Including them. so, in a very general way,
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So, in a very general way, what i'm trying to say
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What i'm trying to say with that one is, don't
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With that one is, don't identify your passion
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Identify your passion first.
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First. identify the opportunities
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Identify the opportunities first.
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First. see where that takes you.
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See where that takes you. then find a way to get
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Then find a way to get really good at what you're
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Really good at what you're doing and then find a way
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Doing and then find a way to love it.
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To love it. you'll wind up in the same
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You'll wind up in the same place.
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Place. >> laurie: number five.
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>> laurie: number five. "i deplore debt, and i do
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"i deplore debt, and i do all i can do to avoid it.
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All i can do to avoid it. i would rather live in a
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I would rather live in a tent and eat beans than
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Tent and eat beans than borrow money to pay for a
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Borrow money to pay for a lifestyle i can't afford."
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Lifestyle i can't afford." >> mike: i got a little
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>> mike: i got a little cheeky with that one.
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Cheeky with that one. but, listen, this is--
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But, listen, this is-- it's important, when we
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It's important, when we talk about education.
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Talk about education. because when i question
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Because when i question the wisdom of a four-year
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The wisdom of a four-year degree for everyone, what
00:30:44.933 --> 00:30:46.701
Degree for everyone, what often comes back to me is,
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Often comes back to me is, mike's anti college,
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Mike's anti college, mike's anti education.
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Mike's anti education. i'm not.
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I'm not. nothing could be further
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Nothing could be further from the truth.
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From the truth. but i am anti debt.
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But i am anti debt. and, debt was the only
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And, debt was the only four letter word in my
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Four letter word in my house that was really--
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House that was really-- that was the bad one.
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That was the bad one. my father couldn't
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My father couldn't tolerate it.
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Tolerate it. couldn't have it.
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Couldn't have it. now, there were times when
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Now, there were times when we had to have some, but
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We had to have some, but by and large, i just grew
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By and large, i just grew up with the level of
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Up with the level of rectitude and fear around
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Rectitude and fear around debt.
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Debt. so it served me well.
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So it served me well. when i went to school i
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When i went to school i had some help from my dad,
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Had some help from my dad, but, back then, again,
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But, back then, again, it was 26 bucks a credit.
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It was 26 bucks a credit. i could swing it.
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I could swing it. i could afford to experiment.
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I could afford to experiment. i could try things i might
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I could try things i might otherwise not.
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Otherwise not. debt was not a big concern.
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Debt was not a big concern. but it is a massive
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But it is a massive concern today.
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Concern today. when i look an at the
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When i look an at the number of people who are
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Number of people who are starting their careers
00:31:43.725 --> 00:31:49.864
Starting their careers 120, 150, $200,000 in
00:31:49.931 --> 00:31:52.633
120, 150, $200,000 in debt, it's heartbreaking.
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Debt, it's heartbreaking. they are not going to get
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They are not going to get out of that hole.
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Out of that hole. and in the end, it's going
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And in the end, it's going to fall to other people to
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To fall to other people to pay for that.
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Pay for that. >> matt: i grew up in the
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>> matt: i grew up in the same vibe.
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Same vibe. my dad was just, woo!
00:32:05.013 --> 00:32:07.482
My dad was just, woo! >> laurie: when your
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>> laurie: when your upkeep exceeds your income--
00:32:08.616 --> 00:32:10.685
Upkeep exceeds your income-- >> mike: when your outgo
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>> mike: when your outgo and your income--
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And your income-- >> laurie: when your
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>> laurie: when your outgo exceeds your
00:32:14.889 --> 00:32:15.423
Outgo exceeds your income, you're upkeep
00:32:15.490 --> 00:32:16.257
Income, you're upkeep becomes your downfall.
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Becomes your downfall. >> matt: perfect.
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>> matt: perfect. >> mike: i should have
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>> mike: i should have written that.
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Written that. >> laurie: i think you did.
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>> laurie: i think you did. >> matt: number six.
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>> matt: number six. "i believe that my safety
00:32:24.332 --> 00:32:25.466
"i believe that my safety is my responsibility.
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Is my responsibility. i understand that being in
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I understand that being in compliance does not
00:32:29.337 --> 00:32:31.239
Compliance does not necessarily mean i'm out
00:32:31.305 --> 00:32:31.773
Necessarily mean i'm out of danger."
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Of danger." >> mike: that's also a
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>> mike: that's also a problem for a lot
00:32:35.610 --> 00:32:36.010
Problem for a lot of people.
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Of people. there's a safety first
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There's a safety first mentality in our country.
00:32:41.215 --> 00:32:42.183
Mentality in our country. and there's a safety first
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And there's a safety first dogma in most vocational
00:32:43.184 --> 00:32:45.887
Dogma in most vocational jobs, and osha is there to
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Jobs, and osha is there to enforce it.
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Enforce it. these things are all
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These things are all well-intended.
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Well-intended. in no way do i encourage
00:32:53.895 --> 00:32:55.496
In no way do i encourage unnecessary risk or people
00:32:55.563 --> 00:32:56.931
Unnecessary risk or people taking needless chances.
00:32:56.998 --> 00:33:00.368
Taking needless chances. however, something gets
00:33:00.435 --> 00:33:02.770
However, something gets lost when we say, when a
00:33:02.837 --> 00:33:04.672
Lost when we say, when a company tells an employee
00:33:04.739 --> 00:33:07.542
Company tells an employee that their safety is the
00:33:07.608 --> 00:33:09.710
That their safety is the most important thing.
00:33:09.777 --> 00:33:12.814
Most important thing. that's not really how the
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:13.381
That's not really how the world works.
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World works. that's not what work
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That's not what work really is.
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Really is. risk is real.
00:33:16.050 --> 00:33:17.485
Risk is real. risk is always out there.
00:33:17.552 --> 00:33:19.320
Risk is always out there. it's certainly always on
00:33:19.387 --> 00:33:19.921
It's certainly always on the job.
00:33:19.987 --> 00:33:21.055
The job. so, this leads to a much
00:33:21.122 --> 00:33:23.591
So, this leads to a much larger and longer
00:33:23.658 --> 00:33:24.926
Larger and longer conversation about the
00:33:24.992 --> 00:33:27.128
Conversation about the unintended consequences of
00:33:27.195 --> 00:33:29.063
Unintended consequences of telling somebody that
00:33:29.130 --> 00:33:31.099
Telling somebody that their safety is the most
00:33:31.165 --> 00:33:32.033
Their safety is the most important thing.
00:33:32.100 --> 00:33:32.700
Important thing. it fosters a sense of
00:33:32.767 --> 00:33:33.601
It fosters a sense of complacency and ultimately
00:33:33.668 --> 00:33:35.536
Complacency and ultimately it puts people in danger.
00:33:35.603 --> 00:33:39.507
It puts people in danger. unless we assume a measure
00:33:39.574 --> 00:33:40.041
Unless we assume a measure of personal responsibility
00:33:40.108 --> 00:33:41.576
Of personal responsibility for our own well-being, we
00:33:41.642 --> 00:33:43.945
For our own well-being, we are never going to be
00:33:44.011 --> 00:33:44.412
Are never going to be safe.
00:33:44.479 --> 00:33:47.582
Safe. the truth is, the dirty
00:33:47.648 --> 00:33:48.616
The truth is, the dirty truth is, we're never safe
00:33:48.683 --> 00:33:49.817
Truth is, we're never safe anyway.
00:33:49.884 --> 00:33:53.554
Anyway. it's balance, it's
00:33:53.621 --> 00:33:54.422
It's balance, it's prudence, it's caution
00:33:54.489 --> 00:33:55.823
Prudence, it's caution mixed with a desire to get
00:33:55.890 --> 00:33:56.424
Mixed with a desire to get the job done.
00:33:56.491 --> 00:34:00.128
The job done. >> matt: i'm going to
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>> matt: i'm going to safety, while critically
00:34:01.929 --> 00:34:02.964
Safety, while critically important, is not the
00:34:03.030 --> 00:34:04.232
Important, is not the reason we live.
00:34:04.298 --> 00:34:06.467
Reason we live. imagine if jesus of
00:34:06.534 --> 00:34:08.336
Imagine if jesus of nazareth had gone through
00:34:08.402 --> 00:34:10.271
Nazareth had gone through his life saying.
00:34:10.338 --> 00:34:12.740
His life saying. >> laurie: now you're
00:34:12.807 --> 00:34:13.207
>> laurie: now you're talkin'--
00:34:13.274 --> 00:34:13.941
Talkin'-- >> mike: sayin', safety first.
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>> mike: sayin', safety first. most important thing, most
00:34:18.146 --> 00:34:19.313
Most important thing, most important thing is not to
00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:19.881
Important thing is not to get hurt.
00:34:19.947 --> 00:34:20.848
Get hurt. let's all be as careful as
00:34:20.915 --> 00:34:21.415
Let's all be as careful as we can.
00:34:21.482 --> 00:34:22.583
We can. are you kidding me?
00:34:22.650 --> 00:34:23.050
Are you kidding me? everything in that book on
00:34:23.117 --> 00:34:24.886
Everything in that book on your lap comes down to a
00:34:24.952 --> 00:34:27.221
Your lap comes down to a willingness to assume a
00:34:27.288 --> 00:34:30.458
Willingness to assume a measure of personal
00:34:30.525 --> 00:34:31.259
Measure of personal responsibility and risk.
00:34:31.325 --> 00:34:33.094
Responsibility and risk. but, boy, in my world, in
00:34:33.161 --> 00:34:34.595
But, boy, in my world, in the world of work, the way
00:34:34.662 --> 00:34:36.230
The world of work, the way those two things come
00:34:36.297 --> 00:34:37.798
Those two things come together for me, it's a
00:34:37.865 --> 00:34:39.867
Together for me, it's a cheerful willingness to
00:34:39.934 --> 00:34:41.502
Cheerful willingness to understand the world is a
00:34:41.569 --> 00:34:43.004
Understand the world is a dangerous place.
00:34:43.070 --> 00:34:45.006
Dangerous place. and people have sacrificed
00:34:45.072 --> 00:34:46.073
And people have sacrificed for you.
00:34:46.140 --> 00:34:46.541
For you. your parents, your co-workers.
00:34:46.641 --> 00:34:49.844
Your parents, your co-workers. >> laurie: exactly.
00:34:49.911 --> 00:34:52.079
>> laurie: exactly. but putting others first.
00:34:52.146 --> 00:34:52.980
But putting others first. i'm worried about you,
00:34:53.047 --> 00:34:54.048
I'm worried about you, first.
00:34:54.115 --> 00:34:55.683
First. that was always jesus'--
00:34:55.750 --> 00:34:56.217
That was always jesus'-- >> matt: seriously, we
00:34:56.284 --> 00:34:57.485
>> matt: seriously, we could derail on number six
00:34:57.552 --> 00:34:58.052
Could derail on number six for the rest of this.
00:34:58.119 --> 00:34:58.686
For the rest of this. we're going to have to go
00:34:58.753 --> 00:34:59.253
We're going to have to go speed round now.
00:34:59.320 --> 00:34:59.787
Speed round now. >> laurie: okay.
00:34:59.854 --> 00:35:02.023
>> laurie: okay. "i believe the best way to
00:35:02.089 --> 00:35:03.024
"i believe the best way to distinguish myself at work
00:35:03.090 --> 00:35:04.125
Distinguish myself at work is to show up early, stay
00:35:04.192 --> 00:35:06.160
Is to show up early, stay late and cheerfully
00:35:06.227 --> 00:35:07.962
Late and cheerfully volunteer for every crappy
00:35:08.029 --> 00:35:08.529
Volunteer for every crappy task there is."
00:35:08.596 --> 00:35:11.399
Task there is." that is what every person
00:35:11.465 --> 00:35:12.200
That is what every person in this room does.
00:35:12.266 --> 00:35:13.301
In this room does. >> mike: i made your wife
00:35:13.367 --> 00:35:14.035
>> mike: i made your wife say crappy on tbn.
00:35:14.101 --> 00:35:15.403
Say crappy on tbn. >> laurie: you did.
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>> laurie: you did. and i'm sorry for that.
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And i'm sorry for that. but, it was-- sorry--
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But, it was-- sorry-- i don't have my glasses on.
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I don't have my glasses on. >> matt: it's crappy.
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>> matt: it's crappy. >> mike: i mean every word
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>> mike: i mean every word of that.
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Of that. again, this is not advice
00:35:26.247 --> 00:35:28.349
Again, this is not advice i feel like a lot of kids
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I feel like a lot of kids get.
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Get. but everybody in my
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But everybody in my foundation has to sign
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Foundation has to sign that.
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That. i don't want you to show
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I don't want you to show up on time.
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Up on time. i don't want you to leave
00:35:36.591 --> 00:35:37.558
I don't want you to leave when the whistle blows.
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When the whistle blows. i want to be there early
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.061
I want to be there early and stay late.
00:35:40.127 --> 00:35:41.295
And stay late. when you're having a
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When you're having a dinner party and one of
00:35:44.498 --> 00:35:45.800
Dinner party and one of your guests stands up and
00:35:45.866 --> 00:35:48.736
Your guests stands up and starts clearing, starts
00:35:48.803 --> 00:35:50.538
Starts clearing, starts doing the dishes, well, i
00:35:50.605 --> 00:35:51.105
Doing the dishes, well, i know you, laurie, that
00:35:51.172 --> 00:35:52.273
Know you, laurie, that horrifies you.
00:35:52.340 --> 00:35:53.074
Horrifies you. "no, no, no, you sit down."
00:35:53.140 --> 00:35:54.842
"no, no, no, you sit down." but, i bet there is a
00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:56.077
But, i bet there is a part you inside that
00:35:56.143 --> 00:35:57.712
Part you inside that goes, you know what?
00:35:57.778 --> 00:35:58.613
Goes, you know what? >> laurie: go get your own
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>> laurie: go get your own fork, mike!
00:35:59.814 --> 00:36:00.815
Fork, mike! >> mike: yes.
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>> mike: yes. send me in there to get my
00:36:02.049 --> 00:36:02.750
Send me in there to get my own fork.
00:36:02.817 --> 00:36:03.284
Own fork. >> laurie: the drawer on
00:36:03.351 --> 00:36:03.851
>> laurie: the drawer on the right.
00:36:03.918 --> 00:36:05.152
The right. >> matt: (laughter)
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>> matt: (laughter) >> mike: i think, as an
00:36:06.087 --> 00:36:08.522
>> mike: i think, as an employer, when somebody in
00:36:08.589 --> 00:36:12.226
Employer, when somebody in my organization does that,
00:36:12.293 --> 00:36:13.628
My organization does that, goes above and beyond
00:36:13.694 --> 00:36:15.896
Goes above and beyond without asking, without
00:36:15.963 --> 00:36:16.864
Without asking, without looking for a reward,
00:36:16.931 --> 00:36:17.665
Looking for a reward, i remember that.
00:36:17.732 --> 00:36:20.568
I remember that. and i have news for you,
00:36:20.635 --> 00:36:22.470
And i have news for you, every employer in the
00:36:22.536 --> 00:36:23.537
Every employer in the country does too.
00:36:23.604 --> 00:36:24.905
Country does too. and if you really want to
00:36:24.972 --> 00:36:25.773
And if you really want to get up those rungs faster,
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:26.974
Get up those rungs faster, just be mindful of it.
00:36:27.041 --> 00:36:28.075
Just be mindful of it. >> mike: put yourself in
00:36:28.142 --> 00:36:29.744
>> mike: put yourself in my place.
00:36:29.810 --> 00:36:30.544
My place. you're all stressed out
00:36:30.611 --> 00:36:31.779
You're all stressed out because a crowd of fans
00:36:31.846 --> 00:36:33.547
Because a crowd of fans are making you late for an
00:36:33.614 --> 00:36:34.882
Are making you late for an appearance.
00:36:34.949 --> 00:36:38.019
Appearance. you're annoyed.
00:36:38.085 --> 00:36:38.919
You're annoyed. right?
00:36:38.986 --> 00:36:39.420
Right? because no one has
00:36:39.487 --> 00:36:39.920
Because no one has arranged for
00:36:39.987 --> 00:36:41.289
Arranged for transportation and you
00:36:41.355 --> 00:36:41.789
Transportation and you have to walk a half mile
00:36:41.856 --> 00:36:43.224
Have to walk a half mile through a crowd to get
00:36:43.291 --> 00:36:43.958
Through a crowd to get where you need to be.
00:36:44.025 --> 00:36:45.493
Where you need to be. then, suddenly, you are
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.261
Then, suddenly, you are face-to-face with a guy
00:36:47.328 --> 00:36:47.795
Face-to-face with a guy who has no arms or legs,
00:36:47.862 --> 00:36:50.298
Who has no arms or legs, who wants to tell you how
00:36:50.364 --> 00:36:52.400
Who wants to tell you how lucky he is.
00:36:52.466 --> 00:36:55.303
Lucky he is. a guy who went to war on
00:36:55.369 --> 00:36:56.537
A guy who went to war on your behalf, comes home
00:36:56.604 --> 00:36:58.072
Your behalf, comes home with none of his limbs and
00:36:58.139 --> 00:36:59.640
With none of his limbs and wants you to know how much
00:36:59.707 --> 00:37:01.942
Wants you to know how much he appreciates what you
00:37:02.009 --> 00:37:03.711
He appreciates what you did for him.
00:37:03.778 --> 00:37:07.648
Did for him. i learned that day that
00:37:07.715 --> 00:37:08.282
I learned that day that staff sergeant travis mills
00:37:08.349 --> 00:37:12.320
Staff sergeant travis mills was missing more than his
00:37:12.386 --> 00:37:13.254
Was missing more than his original parts.
00:37:13.321 --> 00:37:14.355
Original parts. he was missing all trace
00:37:14.422 --> 00:37:14.855
He was missing all trace of self-pity.
00:37:14.922 --> 00:37:17.925
Of self-pity. and that is a quality i
00:37:17.992 --> 00:37:19.427
And that is a quality i admire.
00:37:19.493 --> 00:37:21.329
Admire. we stayed in touch over
00:37:21.395 --> 00:37:22.163
We stayed in touch over the years, me and travis,
00:37:22.229 --> 00:37:22.863
The years, me and travis, and recently i had a
00:37:22.930 --> 00:37:24.598
And recently i had a chance to visit him up in
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Chance to visit him up in maine where he has built a
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Maine where he has built a retreat for other
00:37:28.903 --> 00:37:31.572
Retreat for other servicemen and women who
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Servicemen and women who sustained similar injuries
00:37:34.842 --> 00:37:35.343
Sustained similar injuries in the war.
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In the war. he is the same guy.
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He is the same guy. unflaggingly cheerful,
00:37:37.111 --> 00:37:38.245
Unflaggingly cheerful, incredibly stubborn, and
00:37:38.312 --> 00:37:39.747
Incredibly stubborn, and incapable of whining or
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Incapable of whining or complaining.
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Complaining. his attitude is the living
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His attitude is the living embodiment of the sweat
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Embodiment of the sweat pledge.
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Pledge. and his life begs two
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And his life begs two really simple questions.
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Really simple questions. if he can get through the
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If he can get through the day without whining and
00:37:54.895 --> 00:37:56.964
Day without whining and complaining, why can't i?
00:37:57.031 --> 00:37:58.366
Complaining, why can't i? with respect, why can't
00:37:58.432 --> 00:37:59.900
With respect, why can't anyone?
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Anyone? i believe the most
00:38:05.005 --> 00:38:06.173
I believe the most annoying sounds in the
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Annoying sounds in the world are whining and
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World are whining and complaining.
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Complaining. i will never make them.
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I will never make them. and if i'm unhappy in my
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And if i'm unhappy in my work i'll either find a
00:38:09.877 --> 00:38:11.679
Work i'll either find a new job or i'll find a way
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New job or i'll find a way to be happy.
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To be happy. >> laurie: amen.
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>> laurie: amen. >> mike: it speaks for
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>> mike: it speaks for itself.
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Itself. >> laurie: yeah.
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>> laurie: yeah. go be happy.
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Go be happy. find something you love to
00:38:24.091 --> 00:38:25.159
Find something you love to do.
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Do. >> mike: right.
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>> mike: right. you said earlier, you are
00:38:28.062 --> 00:38:28.596
You said earlier, you are getting tens of thousands
00:38:28.662 --> 00:38:29.897
Getting tens of thousands of requests for people
00:38:29.964 --> 00:38:31.165
Of requests for people looking for work.
00:38:31.232 --> 00:38:33.200
Looking for work. how in the world can that
00:38:33.267 --> 00:38:36.170
How in the world can that be going on at a time when
00:38:36.237 --> 00:38:38.472
Be going on at a time when so many people seem so
00:38:38.539 --> 00:38:40.241
So many people seem so unhappy in their work?
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Unhappy in their work? when did work become the
00:38:41.575 --> 00:38:42.710
When did work become the enemy?
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Enemy? >> matt: wow!
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>> matt: wow! >> mike: when did that
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>> mike: when did that happen?
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Happen? i'm not exactly sure, but,
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I'm not exactly sure, but, i'm pretty sure it has.
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I'm pretty sure it has. >> matt: number nine.
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>> matt: number nine. >> laurie: number nine.
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>> laurie: number nine. "i believe that my
00:38:50.951 --> 00:38:51.318
"i believe that my education is my
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Education is my responsibility, and
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Responsibility, and absolutely critical to my
00:38:53.120 --> 00:38:53.888
Absolutely critical to my success.
00:38:53.954 --> 00:38:55.990
Success. i am resolved to learn as
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I am resolved to learn as much as i can from
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Much as i can from whatever source is
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Whatever source is available to me.
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Available to me. i will never stop
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I will never stop learning, and understand
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Learning, and understand that library cards are free."
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That library cards are free." >> mike: so that's in
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>> mike: so that's in there honestly because
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There honestly because i got so tired of the
00:39:08.335 --> 00:39:09.770
I got so tired of the criticism of saying,
00:39:09.837 --> 00:39:14.074
Criticism of saying, "no, no, no, mike, he is
00:39:14.141 --> 00:39:15.276
"no, no, no, mike, he is anti education."
00:39:15.342 --> 00:39:15.743
Anti education." i just don't know how
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I just don't know how many times i can say it.
00:39:17.244 --> 00:39:18.612
Many times i can say it. you have no hope today
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:20.881
You have no hope today without an education in
00:39:20.948 --> 00:39:22.049
Without an education in the workforce.
00:39:22.116 --> 00:39:23.551
The workforce. but an education is not
00:39:23.617 --> 00:39:24.452
But an education is not the sole province of a
00:39:24.518 --> 00:39:26.720
The sole province of a four-year degree.
00:39:26.787 --> 00:39:28.556
Four-year degree. i put library card in
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I put library card in there because i knew it
00:39:29.190 --> 00:39:30.090
There because i knew it would make my dad laugh,
00:39:30.157 --> 00:39:31.258
Would make my dad laugh, but the truth is, i was
00:39:31.325 --> 00:39:32.026
But the truth is, i was thinking about this.
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Thinking about this. i have access with this
00:39:34.295 --> 00:39:36.096
I have access with this thing, this and an
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Thing, this and an internet connection to
00:39:38.065 --> 00:39:38.999
Internet connection to 99.6 percent of all the
00:39:39.066 --> 00:39:41.035
99.6 percent of all the known information in the
00:39:41.101 --> 00:39:41.569
Known information in the history of the world.
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History of the world. so, if i'm curious, there
00:39:44.071 --> 00:39:45.339
So, if i'm curious, there are so many ways to
00:39:45.406 --> 00:39:47.341
Are so many ways to scratch that itch.
00:39:47.408 --> 00:39:49.477
Scratch that itch. you know?
00:39:49.543 --> 00:39:50.478
You know? and it's ridiculous,
00:39:50.544 --> 00:39:51.712
And it's ridiculous, dangerous and
00:39:51.779 --> 00:39:53.447
Dangerous and irresponsible to think
00:39:53.514 --> 00:39:54.715
Irresponsible to think there is only one place to
00:39:54.782 --> 00:39:55.683
There is only one place to get smart.
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Get smart. >> mike: not long ago, my
00:39:57.418 --> 00:39:58.085
>> mike: not long ago, my foundation gave a work
00:39:58.152 --> 00:39:59.954
Foundation gave a work ethic scholarship to a man
00:40:00.020 --> 00:40:01.155
Ethic scholarship to a man named john fitzpatrick.
00:40:01.222 --> 00:40:01.689
Named john fitzpatrick. john fitzpatrick was one
00:40:01.755 --> 00:40:04.258
John fitzpatrick was one of the best applicants we
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Of the best applicants we have ever seen.
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Have ever seen. there was just one
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There was just one problem.
00:40:07.862 --> 00:40:08.896
Problem. john fitzpatrick was a
00:40:08.963 --> 00:40:10.030
John fitzpatrick was a convict, still behind bars.
00:40:10.097 --> 00:40:11.932
Convict, still behind bars. i get it.
00:40:11.999 --> 00:40:16.437
I get it. jail time looks very bad
00:40:16.504 --> 00:40:18.472
Jail time looks very bad on a resume, and it looks
00:40:18.539 --> 00:40:19.840
On a resume, and it looks bad on a scholarship
00:40:19.907 --> 00:40:21.242
Bad on a scholarship application too.
00:40:21.308 --> 00:40:22.676
Application too. the question is, why is it
00:40:22.743 --> 00:40:24.545
The question is, why is it on either?
00:40:24.612 --> 00:40:26.747
On either? i mean, why do we force
00:40:26.814 --> 00:40:28.449
I mean, why do we force former offenders to check
00:40:28.516 --> 00:40:30.784
Former offenders to check the box every time they
00:40:30.851 --> 00:40:33.020
The box every time they apply for a job?
00:40:33.087 --> 00:40:34.588
Apply for a job? what is the point in
00:40:34.655 --> 00:40:35.623
What is the point in paying your debt to
00:40:35.689 --> 00:40:37.558
Paying your debt to society if society never
00:40:37.625 --> 00:40:38.692
Society if society never forgives the loan?
00:40:38.759 --> 00:40:40.461
Forgives the loan? recidivism rates are
00:40:40.528 --> 00:40:41.695
Recidivism rates are through the roof today.
00:40:41.762 --> 00:40:43.664
Through the roof today. 76 percent of offenders
00:40:43.731 --> 00:40:45.566
76 percent of offenders wind up back in jail
00:40:45.633 --> 00:40:47.735
Wind up back in jail within five years of their
00:40:47.801 --> 00:40:48.569
Within five years of their release.
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Release. unless we're willing to
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Unless we're willing to lock up every criminal
00:40:52.139 --> 00:40:54.375
Lock up every criminal forever, the real question
00:40:54.441 --> 00:40:56.310
Forever, the real question becomes, what's best for
00:40:56.377 --> 00:40:57.545
Becomes, what's best for society?
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Society? i mean, who would you
00:40:59.747 --> 00:41:02.249
I mean, who would you rather live next to, a
00:41:02.316 --> 00:41:03.751
Rather live next to, a former convict who has a
00:41:03.817 --> 00:41:05.185
Former convict who has a useful skill, and a
00:41:05.252 --> 00:41:06.353
Useful skill, and a full-time job, or a former
00:41:06.420 --> 00:41:08.122
Full-time job, or a former convict with no skill, no
00:41:08.188 --> 00:41:11.125
Convict with no skill, no prospects and no hope of
00:41:11.191 --> 00:41:13.193
Prospects and no hope of reassimiliating?
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Reassimiliating? i believe john fitzpatrick
00:41:15.529 --> 00:41:17.498
I believe john fitzpatrick is a product of the
00:41:17.565 --> 00:41:19.800
Is a product of the choices he's made.
00:41:19.867 --> 00:41:21.168
Choices he's made. but, i don't think his
00:41:21.235 --> 00:41:22.903
But, i don't think his past choices should define
00:41:22.970 --> 00:41:23.871
Past choices should define him for the rest of his
00:41:23.938 --> 00:41:24.738
Him for the rest of his life.
00:41:24.805 --> 00:41:26.840
Life. he has paid his debt to
00:41:26.907 --> 00:41:28.242
He has paid his debt to society, and i believe his
00:41:28.309 --> 00:41:29.910
Society, and i believe his new choices will lead to
00:41:29.977 --> 00:41:32.146
New choices will lead to better circumstances.
00:41:32.212 --> 00:41:34.148
Better circumstances. in fact, i'm kind of
00:41:34.214 --> 00:41:36.016
In fact, i'm kind of counting on it.
00:41:36.083 --> 00:41:38.485
Counting on it. "i believe that i'm the
00:41:38.552 --> 00:41:39.954
"i believe that i'm the product of my choices, not
00:41:40.020 --> 00:41:40.854
Product of my choices, not my circumstances.
00:41:40.921 --> 00:41:42.423
My circumstances. i will never blame anyone
00:41:42.489 --> 00:41:42.990
I will never blame anyone for my shortcomings or the
00:41:43.057 --> 00:41:44.758
For my shortcomings or the challenges i face.
00:41:44.825 --> 00:41:46.460
Challenges i face. and i will never accept
00:41:46.527 --> 00:41:48.195
And i will never accept the credit for something i
00:41:48.262 --> 00:41:48.996
The credit for something i didn't do."
00:41:49.063 --> 00:41:54.468
Didn't do." >> matt: wow!
00:41:54.535 --> 00:41:55.369
>> matt: wow! >> laurie: i like that.
00:41:55.436 --> 00:41:56.470
>> laurie: i like that. >> mike: it's just an
00:41:56.537 --> 00:41:58.339
>> mike: it's just an attempt to remind the
00:41:58.405 --> 00:42:01.942
Attempt to remind the signer that whatever
00:42:02.009 --> 00:42:03.344
Signer that whatever you're dealing with,
00:42:03.410 --> 00:42:04.645
You're dealing with, somebody's dealing with
00:42:04.712 --> 00:42:05.179
Somebody's dealing with something worse.
00:42:05.245 --> 00:42:06.580
Something worse. >> matt: number 11.
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>> matt: number 11. >> laurie: "i understand
00:42:07.448 --> 00:42:07.881
>> laurie: "i understand world is not fair.
00:42:07.948 --> 00:42:08.649
World is not fair. and i'm okay with that.
00:42:08.716 --> 00:42:09.850
And i'm okay with that. i do not resent the
00:42:09.917 --> 00:42:11.719
I do not resent the success of others."
00:42:11.785 --> 00:42:13.587
Success of others." >> mike: yeah, not a popular
00:42:13.654 --> 00:42:15.255
>> mike: yeah, not a popular sentiment today, but it is
00:42:15.322 --> 00:42:16.590
Sentiment today, but it is part the sweat pledge.
00:42:16.657 --> 00:42:17.858
Part the sweat pledge. >> matt: the sweat pledge,
00:42:17.925 --> 00:42:19.326
>> matt: the sweat pledge, mike rowe, because of his
00:42:19.393 --> 00:42:24.898
Mike rowe, because of his foundation, because of
00:42:24.965 --> 00:42:27.401
Foundation, because of years on television, and
00:42:27.468 --> 00:42:29.136
Years on television, and doing the work on
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Doing the work on "dirty jobs," came up with a
00:42:32.740 --> 00:42:36.577
"dirty jobs," came up with a beautiful acronym, sweat.
00:42:36.644 --> 00:42:39.446
"skill and work ethic
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"skill and work ethic aren't taboo."
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Aren't taboo." we are breaking it down.
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We are breaking it down. the reason we're sitting
00:42:45.552 --> 00:42:46.020
The reason we're sitting here talking about it is,
00:42:46.086 --> 00:42:46.920
Here talking about it is, it's important.
00:42:46.987 --> 00:42:47.821
It's important. but we want you involved.
00:42:47.888 --> 00:42:50.591
But we want you involved. and we are, in essence,
00:42:50.658 --> 00:42:52.993
And we are, in essence, agreeing to work on a
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Agreeing to work on a curriculum together, get
00:42:54.328 --> 00:42:54.762
Curriculum together, get this visual curriculum
00:42:54.828 --> 00:42:58.332
This visual curriculum known.
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Known. his foundation, if you
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His foundation, if you sign this sweat pledge and
00:43:01.869 --> 00:43:03.404
Sign this sweat pledge and do some other things, you
00:43:03.470 --> 00:43:05.005
Do some other things, you have to apply and all
00:43:05.072 --> 00:43:06.206
Have to apply and all that, you're giving out
00:43:06.273 --> 00:43:07.608
That, you're giving out grants and scholarship
00:43:07.675 --> 00:43:09.610
Grants and scholarship pieces for trade schools
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Pieces for trade schools and this kind of thing.
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And this kind of thing. we love all that.
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We love all that. and thank you for
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And thank you for "dirty jobs," all 9 billion
00:43:15.215 --> 00:43:21.255
"dirty jobs," all 9 billion episodes of them that have
00:43:21.321 --> 00:43:21.822
Episodes of them that have been running virtually
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Been running virtually every day for the last two
00:43:23.023 --> 00:43:24.058
Every day for the last two decades.
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Look, all the stuff you do
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Look, all the stuff you do with us here and we'll
00:43:26.994 --> 00:43:27.428
With us here and we'll make one quick
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Make one quick announcement at end of
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Announcement at end of this.
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This. let's get to 12 so we can
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Let's get to 12 so we can breakdown the entire 12--
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Breakdown the entire 12-- you know, what did you
00:43:32.633 --> 00:43:35.369
You know, what did you call this yesterday
00:43:35.436 --> 00:43:36.370
Call this yesterday sitting around dinner?
00:43:36.437 --> 00:43:38.706
Sitting around dinner? you called this kind of a
00:43:38.772 --> 00:43:40.607
You called this kind of a cross between
00:43:40.674 --> 00:43:41.675
Cross between "the ten commandments,"
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"the ten commandments," the boy scout pledge.
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The boy scout pledge. >> mike: the scout law and
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>> mike: the scout law and the 12-step recovery
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The 12-step recovery process.
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Process. >> matt: so we're on
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>> matt: so we're on number 12.
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Number 12. >> laurie: we threw in the
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>> laurie: we threw in the apostle's creed.
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Apostle's creed. >> mike: that works too.
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>> mike: that works too. >> laurie: "i believe that
00:43:53.987 --> 00:43:55.322
>> laurie: "i believe that all people are created
00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:56.090
All people are created equal.
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Equal. i also believe that all
00:43:57.191 --> 00:43:58.592
I also believe that all people make choices.
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People make choices. some choose to be lazy,
00:44:00.427 --> 00:44:01.995
Some choose to be lazy, some choose to sleep in.
00:44:02.062 --> 00:44:03.664
Some choose to sleep in. i choose to work by butt off."
00:44:03.764 --> 00:44:06.633
I choose to work by butt off." you made me say butt.
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You made me say butt. >> mike: i made you say
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>> mike: i made you say crap and butt.
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Crap and butt. it's a big day for me.
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It's a big day for me. again, it's a shameless
00:44:09.903 --> 00:44:12.973
Again, it's a shameless attempt to get people to
00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:16.777
Attempt to get people to think seriously about what
00:44:16.844 --> 00:44:19.580
Think seriously about what they're applying for.
00:44:19.646 --> 00:44:20.314
They're applying for. right?
00:44:20.380 --> 00:44:21.148
Right? this is a work ethic
00:44:21.215 --> 00:44:22.249
This is a work ethic scholarship.
00:44:22.316 --> 00:44:23.717
Scholarship. and so, i didn't want to
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And so, i didn't want to pull any punches.
00:44:25.953 --> 00:44:26.820
Pull any punches. i wanted to be as clear as
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I wanted to be as clear as i could.
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I could. i also wanted to do it
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I also wanted to do it cheerfully.
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Cheerfully. this is a cheerful pledge.
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This is a cheerful pledge. it's not a finger shaking
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It's not a finger shaking old man on the porch
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Old man on the porch yelling at the kids to get
00:44:36.930 --> 00:44:37.865
Yelling at the kids to get off his lawn.
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Off his lawn. at least i hope i'm not.
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At least i hope i'm not. okay, boomer.
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Okay, boomer. >> matt: you are that a
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>> matt: you are that a little.
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Little. >> mike: i'm getting more
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>> mike: i'm getting more and more.
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And more. i'm turning into that guy.
00:44:47.007 --> 00:44:47.508
I'm turning into that guy. look, i know it worked for
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Look, i know it worked for me.
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I know how i was raised.
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I know how i was raised. i believe these qualities
00:44:52.112 --> 00:44:53.013
I believe these qualities are still for sale.
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Are still for sale. i don't believe they are
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I don't believe they are being taught in schools.
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Being taught in schools. and so, those 12-points
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And so, those 12-points you just read are now a
00:44:59.419 --> 00:45:03.757
You just read are now a 200 page curriculum in a
00:45:03.824 --> 00:45:04.258
200 page curriculum in a pilot program in 30 or 40
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Pilot program in 30 or 40 trade schools.
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Look, if i get my way, it
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Look, if i get my way, it will be in schools
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Will be in schools everywhere.
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Everywhere. it will be in companies,
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It will be in companies, maybe even for
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Maybe even for home schooling.
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Home schooling. >> laurie: but i believe
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>> laurie: but i believe we're hearing the loudest
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We're hearing the loudest voices raging, let's put
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Voices raging, let's put it that way.
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It that way. so rage is the thing right
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So rage is the thing right now.
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Now. but i think most good,
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But i think most good, america loving people
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America loving people believe in this still.
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Believe in this still. i believe they are out
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I believe they are out there.
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There. i believe they are
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I believe they are everywhere.
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Everywhere. and i pray that they stand
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And i pray that they stand up for things like this.
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Up for things like this. and just support things
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And just support things like this.
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Like this. you don't have to rage to
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You don't have to rage to be heard.
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Be heard. the bible talks about the
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The bible talks about the quietness of your spirit
00:45:45.399 --> 00:45:46.900
Quietness of your spirit and the gentle answer and
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And the gentle answer and the gentle tones, so the
00:45:49.369 --> 00:45:51.471
The gentle tones, so the people that are raging
00:45:51.538 --> 00:45:53.006
People that are raging about things, their voices
00:45:53.073 --> 00:45:54.708
About things, their voices come and they will go.
00:45:54.775 --> 00:45:57.211
Come and they will go. but the people that are
00:45:57.277 --> 00:45:58.745
But the people that are strong and believe-- those
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Strong and believe-- those are godly principles,
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Are godly principles, mike.
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Mike. >> mike: i guess i just
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>> mike: i guess i just plagiarized the bible.
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Plagiarized the bible. am i in trouble?
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Am i in trouble? >> laurie: for like the
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>> laurie: for like the fourth time.
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Fourth time. >> mike: patience.
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>> mike: patience. there's nothing in the
00:46:16.463 --> 00:46:16.964
There's nothing in the bible that's new, and
00:46:17.030 --> 00:46:18.365
Bible that's new, and there's nothing in the
00:46:18.432 --> 00:46:18.932
There's nothing in the sweat pledge that's new.
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Sweat pledge that's new. but to everything a
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But to everything a season.
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Season. and sometimes, with "dirty
00:46:22.970 --> 00:46:24.872
And sometimes, with "dirty jobs," the headlines
00:46:24.938 --> 00:46:25.973
Jobs," the headlines caught up to my show and
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:27.341
Caught up to my show and made me relevant in a way
00:46:27.407 --> 00:46:28.942
Made me relevant in a way i didn't think i ever
00:46:29.009 --> 00:46:30.177
I didn't think i ever would be.
00:46:30.244 --> 00:46:30.978
Would be. the same thing is
00:46:31.044 --> 00:46:32.913
The same thing is happening now.
00:46:32.980 --> 00:46:33.380
Happening now. some ideas we hold dear
00:46:33.447 --> 00:46:34.848
Some ideas we hold dear have fallen out of favor.
00:46:34.915 --> 00:46:36.683
Have fallen out of favor. times change.
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Times change. be of good cheer.
00:46:38.952 --> 00:46:41.755
Be of good cheer. sit tight.
00:46:41.822 --> 00:46:42.556
Sit tight. hold fast.
00:46:42.623 --> 00:46:44.491
Hold fast. all those ideas are baked
00:46:44.558 --> 00:46:46.226
All those ideas are baked into this.
00:46:46.293 --> 00:46:47.427
Into this. >> matt: okay.
00:46:47.494 --> 00:46:47.961
>> matt: okay. so, the big announcement
00:46:48.028 --> 00:46:49.329
So, the big announcement around here that we wanted
00:46:49.396 --> 00:46:50.764
Around here that we wanted to do, we wanted to
00:46:50.831 --> 00:46:52.532
To do, we wanted to mention that this location
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.068
Mention that this location that we have been doing
00:46:55.135 --> 00:46:57.271
That we have been doing this praise program is a
00:46:57.337 --> 00:46:58.605
This praise program is a barn.
00:46:58.672 --> 00:47:00.874
Barn. and it is kind of our
00:47:00.941 --> 00:47:02.442
And it is kind of our cathedral to work.
00:47:02.509 --> 00:47:04.711
Cathedral to work. it's meaningful to us.
00:47:04.778 --> 00:47:06.413
It's meaningful to us. we've sat here for a
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.082
We've sat here for a number of days and can you
00:47:09.149 --> 00:47:12.119
Number of days and can you explain or help me explain
00:47:12.185 --> 00:47:13.854
Explain or help me explain for laurie what the show is?
00:47:13.921 --> 00:47:15.923
For laurie what the show is? >> laurie: yeah, explain
00:47:15.989 --> 00:47:19.326
>> laurie: yeah, explain it for me.
00:47:19.393 --> 00:47:20.861
It for me. >> mike: well, the show
00:47:20.928 --> 00:47:21.428
>> mike: well, the show that matt's talking about,
00:47:21.495 --> 00:47:22.629
That matt's talking about, laurie, is based on my
00:47:22.696 --> 00:47:23.363
Laurie, is based on my podcast.
00:47:23.430 --> 00:47:27.000
Podcast. and my podcast is called
00:47:27.067 --> 00:47:27.534
And my podcast is called "the way i heard it."
00:47:27.601 --> 00:47:28.235
"the way i heard it." and it consists of short
00:47:28.302 --> 00:47:29.569
And it consists of short mysteries, true stories
00:47:29.636 --> 00:47:30.971
Mysteries, true stories you didn't know about
00:47:31.038 --> 00:47:33.140
You didn't know about famous people you do.
00:47:33.206 --> 00:47:34.441
Famous people you do. so, you listen to these
00:47:34.508 --> 00:47:35.676
So, you listen to these stories and you get to try
00:47:35.742 --> 00:47:36.843
Stories and you get to try to figure out who i'm
00:47:36.910 --> 00:47:37.911
To figure out who i'm talking about, like the
00:47:37.978 --> 00:47:38.879
Talking about, like the old paul harvey.
00:47:38.946 --> 00:47:40.080
Old paul harvey. well, your husband loves
00:47:40.147 --> 00:47:41.481
Well, your husband loves these stories.
00:47:41.548 --> 00:47:42.449
These stories. and he wanted to sit down
00:47:42.516 --> 00:47:43.750
And he wanted to sit down and talk to me about why i
00:47:43.817 --> 00:47:45.852
And talk to me about why i wrote them.
00:47:45.919 --> 00:47:46.720
Wrote them. and so, that's what we do
00:47:46.787 --> 00:47:48.455
And so, that's what we do on this set.
00:47:48.522 --> 00:47:49.423
On this set. >> matt: okay.
00:47:49.489 --> 00:47:50.490
>> matt: okay. before we get there.
00:47:50.557 --> 00:47:52.192
Before we get there. remember i came to you and
00:47:52.259 --> 00:47:54.494
Remember i came to you and i said, i like your podcast
00:47:54.561 --> 00:47:56.029
I said, i like your podcast "the way i heard it."
00:47:56.096 --> 00:47:57.731
"the way i heard it." do you remember?
00:47:57.798 --> 00:47:58.765
Do you remember? >> mike: i do.
00:47:58.832 --> 00:47:59.766
>> mike: i do. >> matt: let's get on the
00:47:59.833 --> 00:48:00.334
>> matt: let's get on the same page.
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:01.401
Same page. that happened?
00:48:01.468 --> 00:48:01.868
That happened? >> mike: yes, it happened.
00:48:01.935 --> 00:48:02.536
>> mike: yes, it happened. >> matt: and i said why
00:48:02.602 --> 00:48:03.470
>> matt: and i said why don't we put visuals to it?
00:48:03.537 --> 00:48:04.938
Don't we put visuals to it? what did you say?
00:48:05.005 --> 00:48:06.606
What did you say? >> mike: i was skeptical
00:48:06.673 --> 00:48:08.308
>> mike: i was skeptical because i thought bringing
00:48:08.375 --> 00:48:09.776
Because i thought bringing visuals to this show would
00:48:09.843 --> 00:48:11.111
Visuals to this show would wreck it.
00:48:11.178 --> 00:48:13.814
Wreck it. >> matt: would you
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:15.449
>> matt: would you confirm, sir, that is your
00:48:15.515 --> 00:48:15.983
Confirm, sir, that is your handwriting?
00:48:16.049 --> 00:48:16.583
Handwriting? >> mike: yes, i wrote this
00:48:16.650 --> 00:48:17.250
>> mike: yes, i wrote this just the other day.
00:48:17.317 --> 00:48:18.318
Just the other day. >> matt: and could you
00:48:18.385 --> 00:48:19.152
>> matt: and could you read it for the audience?
00:48:19.219 --> 00:48:20.354
Read it for the audience? >> laurie: could you show
00:48:20.420 --> 00:48:21.054
>> laurie: could you show that to the camera right
00:48:21.121 --> 00:48:21.555
That to the camera right here?
00:48:21.621 --> 00:48:23.156
Here? >> mike: as it turns out,
00:48:23.223 --> 00:48:24.458
>> mike: as it turns out, my stories can be brought
00:48:24.524 --> 00:48:25.025
My stories can be brought to life through a series
00:48:25.092 --> 00:48:26.560
To life through a series of highly produced
00:48:26.626 --> 00:48:27.928
Of highly produced reenactments with
00:48:27.995 --> 00:48:29.763
Reenactments with wonderful actors, and matt
00:48:29.830 --> 00:48:32.899
Wonderful actors, and matt crouch made that happen
00:48:32.966 --> 00:48:34.468
Crouch made that happen and cut it together with
00:48:34.534 --> 00:48:35.535
And cut it together with me telling these stories.
00:48:35.602 --> 00:48:37.304
Me telling these stories. and, as it turns out,
00:48:37.371 --> 00:48:38.472
And, as it turns out, they're-- modesty aside--
00:48:38.538 --> 00:48:41.975
They're-- modesty aside-- they are actually quite
00:48:42.042 --> 00:48:42.809
They are actually quite good.
00:48:42.876 --> 00:48:43.310
Good. which is a long way of
00:48:43.377 --> 00:48:43.877
Which is a long way of saying, i was wrong and
00:48:43.944 --> 00:48:45.145
Saying, i was wrong and matt was right.
00:48:45.212 --> 00:48:47.647
Matt was right. >> matt: thank you.
00:48:47.714 --> 00:48:48.515
>> matt: thank you. we'll be putting that up
00:48:48.582 --> 00:48:49.016
We'll be putting that up here in the cathedral to
00:48:49.082 --> 00:48:50.250
Here in the cathedral to work.
00:48:50.317 --> 00:48:53.053
Work. what is the name the show?
00:48:53.120 --> 00:48:54.221
What is the name the show? >> mike: this is a
00:48:54.287 --> 00:48:54.921
>> mike: this is a complicated topic.
00:48:54.988 --> 00:48:55.822
Complicated topic. if we call it
00:48:55.889 --> 00:48:56.656
If we call it "the way i heard it,"
00:48:56.723 --> 00:48:57.958
"the way i heard it," we will confuse people
00:48:58.025 --> 00:48:59.326
We will confuse people with my book and my
00:48:59.393 --> 00:49:01.128
With my book and my podcast of the same name.
00:49:01.194 --> 00:49:02.662
Podcast of the same name. you said you would like to
00:49:02.729 --> 00:49:04.765
You said you would like to call it
00:49:04.831 --> 00:49:05.365
Call it "the way i talked about
00:49:05.432 --> 00:49:06.800
"the way i talked about the way mike rowe heard it."
00:49:06.867 --> 00:49:08.668
The way mike rowe heard it." which i think is a
00:49:08.735 --> 00:49:09.803
Which i think is a terrible title,
00:49:09.870 --> 00:49:11.038
Terrible title, and impossible to say,
00:49:11.104 --> 00:49:13.440
And impossible to say, but kind of funny.
00:49:13.507 --> 00:49:14.041
But kind of funny. i was thinking maybe a
00:49:14.107 --> 00:49:15.575
I was thinking maybe a simpler version would be
00:49:15.642 --> 00:49:16.910
Simpler version would be "the story behind the story."
00:49:16.977 --> 00:49:20.480
"the story behind the story." >> matt: but we are
00:49:20.547 --> 00:49:21.615
>> matt: but we are not now naming the show
00:49:21.681 --> 00:49:22.282
Not now naming the show "the way i heard it."
00:49:22.349 --> 00:49:23.150
"the way i heard it." >> mike: i don't think we
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>> mike: i don't think we should.
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Should. >> laurie: it would have
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>> laurie: it would have been helpful to know.
00:49:25.252 --> 00:49:26.586
Been helpful to know. >> matt: mike.
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>> matt: mike. >> mike: yes.
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>> mike: yes. >> laurie: we went to a
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>> laurie: we went to a lot of work.
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Lot of work. >> mike: he made a sign.
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>> mike: he made a sign. i told him, laurie.
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I told him, laurie. >> laurie: do you know the
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>> laurie: do you know the process of approving that
00:49:33.727 --> 00:49:34.728
Process of approving that sign was -- that we're
00:49:34.795 --> 00:49:36.930
Sign was -- that we're making that sign in this
00:49:36.997 --> 00:49:39.533
Making that sign in this building.
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:40.667
Building. >> mike: are we going
00:49:40.734 --> 00:49:41.368
>> mike: are we going outside to look at the
00:49:41.435 --> 00:49:41.968
Outside to look at the sign?
00:49:42.035 --> 00:49:42.469
Sign? >> matt: come here.
00:49:42.536 --> 00:49:43.437
>> matt: come here. >> laurie: goodbye.
00:49:43.503 --> 00:49:44.304
>> laurie: goodbye. >> mike: bye, laurie.
00:49:44.371 --> 00:49:45.939
>> mike: bye, laurie. >> matt: i just want you
00:49:46.006 --> 00:49:46.440
>> matt: i just want you to know--
00:49:46.506 --> 00:49:47.040
To know-- >> laurie: have fun.
00:49:47.107 --> 00:49:48.208
>> laurie: have fun. >> matt: -- that when we
00:49:48.275 --> 00:49:48.775
>> matt: -- that when we were starting in on our
00:49:48.842 --> 00:49:50.777
Were starting in on our development on this show,
00:49:50.844 --> 00:49:51.945
Development on this show, mike, that basically we
00:49:52.012 --> 00:49:53.213
Mike, that basically we were talking about
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.949
Were talking about "the way i heard it."
00:49:56.016 --> 00:49:57.284
"the way i heard it." >> mike: i remember vividly.
00:49:57.350 --> 00:49:58.385
>> mike: i remember vividly. >> matt: and so we started
00:49:58.452 --> 00:50:00.454
>> matt: and so we started out and we basically had
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Out and we basically had this whole cathedral to
00:50:03.657 --> 00:50:04.257
This whole cathedral to work going on here,
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Work going on here, we got metal,
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:06.760
We got metal, stainless steel, copper.
00:50:06.827 --> 00:50:09.963
Stainless steel, copper. we started hammering it.
00:50:10.030 --> 00:50:10.797
We started hammering it. can i just show you
00:50:10.864 --> 00:50:11.998
Can i just show you something?
00:50:12.065 --> 00:50:13.433
Something? >> mike: it's beautiful.
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>> mike: it's beautiful. yes.
00:50:14.034 --> 00:50:14.334
Yes. yes.
00:50:14.401 --> 00:50:15.102
Yes. the sign is already made.
00:50:15.168 --> 00:50:15.635
The sign is already made. why are we changing the
00:50:15.702 --> 00:50:17.504
Why are we changing the title of the show after
00:50:17.571 --> 00:50:20.474
Title of the show after the sign was made?
00:50:20.540 --> 00:50:21.775
The sign was made? >> mike: what i would say is,
00:50:21.842 --> 00:50:22.409
>> mike: what i would say is, we're not changing the
00:50:22.476 --> 00:50:23.510
We're not changing the title of the podcast.
00:50:23.577 --> 00:50:24.578
Title of the podcast. but for people to
00:50:24.644 --> 00:50:25.312
But for people to understand that it's a
00:50:25.378 --> 00:50:26.246
Understand that it's a show where we discuss a
00:50:26.313 --> 00:50:27.414
Show where we discuss a podcast called
00:50:27.481 --> 00:50:28.748
Podcast called "the way i heard it,"
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"the way i heard it," you should be calling
00:50:29.983 --> 00:50:30.383
You should be calling it something,
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It something, something else.
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Something else. i think.
00:50:33.086 --> 00:50:35.422
I think. >> matt: but we talked about
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>> matt: but we talked about "the way you heard it"
00:50:36.056 --> 00:50:37.891
"the way you heard it" for 30 minutes,
00:50:37.958 --> 00:50:40.160
For 30 minutes, and now you're wanting to
00:50:40.227 --> 00:50:40.727
And now you're wanting to change the title.
00:50:40.794 --> 00:50:41.695
Change the title. and the sign's already
00:50:41.761 --> 00:50:43.330
And the sign's already made and hung.
00:50:43.396 --> 00:50:44.898
Made and hung. >> mike: but we're not
00:50:44.965 --> 00:50:45.765
>> mike: but we're not really talking about
00:50:45.832 --> 00:50:46.867
Really talking about "the way i heard it."
00:50:46.933 --> 00:50:48.735
"the way i heard it." we are talking about
00:50:48.802 --> 00:50:49.936
We are talking about the way we talked about
00:50:50.003 --> 00:50:50.737
The way we talked about "the way i heard it"
00:50:50.804 --> 00:50:52.372
"the way i heard it" you see?
00:50:52.439 --> 00:50:52.973
You see? so, the show about
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:53.440
So, the show about "the way i heard it"
00:50:53.507 --> 00:50:54.174
"the way i heard it" is actually
00:50:54.241 --> 00:50:56.109
Is actually "the way we talked about
00:50:56.176 --> 00:50:56.877
"the way we talked about the way i heard it,"
00:50:56.943 --> 00:50:58.245
The way i heard it," or "the story behind the story."
00:50:58.311 --> 00:50:59.479
Or "the story behind the story." >> matt: so what's the name
00:50:59.546 --> 00:51:00.080
>> matt: so what's the name the show now?
00:51:00.147 --> 00:51:01.181
The show now? >> mike: that's up to you.
00:51:01.248 --> 00:51:01.882
>> mike: that's up to you. >> matt: no.
00:51:01.948 --> 00:51:02.582
>> matt: no. you just said it.
00:51:02.649 --> 00:51:03.283
You just said it. what was it called?
00:51:03.350 --> 00:51:04.417
What was it called? >> mike: i was calling it
00:51:04.484 --> 00:51:04.951
>> mike: i was calling it "the story behind the story."
00:51:05.018 --> 00:51:05.852
"the story behind the story." >> matt: what do we do
00:51:05.919 --> 00:51:09.589
>> matt: what do we do with this sign then?
00:51:09.656 --> 00:51:10.690
With this sign then? >> mike: you leave it here
00:51:10.757 --> 00:51:11.224
>> mike: you leave it here for all eternity.
00:51:11.291 --> 00:51:12.292
For all eternity. it's made of metal and
00:51:12.359 --> 00:51:14.361
It's made of metal and copper and bronze.
00:51:14.427 --> 00:51:15.362
Copper and bronze. you're never going to get
00:51:15.428 --> 00:51:16.663
You're never going to get this thing off.
00:51:16.730 --> 00:51:17.764
This thing off. this thing is now part of the--
00:51:17.831 --> 00:51:18.832
This thing is now part of the-- look, it's stuck in the
00:51:18.899 --> 00:51:19.366
Look, it's stuck in the living rock of this ranch.
00:51:19.432 --> 00:51:22.736
Living rock of this ranch. that sign will live there
00:51:22.802 --> 00:51:24.304
That sign will live there forever.
00:51:24.371 --> 00:51:26.940
Forever. >> matt: just verify
00:51:27.007 --> 00:51:28.208
>> matt: just verify something for me.
00:51:28.275 --> 00:51:29.142
Something for me. that is a real sign made
00:51:29.209 --> 00:51:29.676
That is a real sign made out of metal.
00:51:29.743 --> 00:51:31.511
Out of metal. >> mike: seems to be made
00:51:31.578 --> 00:51:32.112
>> mike: seems to be made out of metal, yeah.
00:51:32.179 --> 00:51:32.846
Out of metal, yeah. >> matt: it's stainless
00:51:32.913 --> 00:51:33.580
>> matt: it's stainless steel and copper.
00:51:33.647 --> 00:51:34.080
Steel and copper. >> mike: yeah.
00:51:34.147 --> 00:51:34.514
>> mike: yeah. >> matt: and it says what?
00:51:34.581 --> 00:51:37.484
>> matt: and it says what? >> mike: it says
00:51:37.551 --> 00:51:38.218
>> mike: it says "the way i heard it."
00:51:38.285 --> 00:51:39.152
"the way i heard it." >> matt: but we're calling
00:51:39.219 --> 00:51:40.787
>> matt: but we're calling the show--
00:51:40.854 --> 00:51:41.888
The show-- >> mike: "the story behind
00:51:41.955 --> 00:51:42.722
>> mike: "the story behind the story,"
00:51:42.789 --> 00:51:45.525
The story," where mike and matt discuss
00:51:45.592 --> 00:51:46.860
Where mike and matt discuss "the way i heard it."
00:51:46.927 --> 00:51:50.697
"the way i heard it." it is awkward, isn't it?
00:51:50.764 --> 00:51:53.133
It is awkward, isn't it? >> matt: yeah.
00:51:53.200 --> 00:51:53.600
>> matt: yeah. >> mike: how hard would it
00:51:53.667 --> 00:51:57.003
>> mike: how hard would it be to get up there with
00:51:57.070 --> 00:51:57.537
Be to get up there with like a sharpie?
00:51:57.604 --> 00:51:58.271
Like a sharpie? (laughter)
00:51:58.338 --> 00:51:59.072
(laughter) right?
00:51:59.139 --> 00:52:01.608
Right? and i write "the way we
00:52:01.675 --> 00:52:02.576
And i write "the way we talked--"
00:52:02.642 --> 00:52:04.678
Talked--" so i could get a
00:52:04.744 --> 00:52:05.145
So i could get a silver sharpie.
00:52:05.212 --> 00:52:07.280
Silver sharpie. can you see it?
00:52:07.347 --> 00:52:08.481
Can you see it? a silver sharpie.
00:52:08.548 --> 00:52:08.949
A silver sharpie. "the way we talked about--"
00:52:09.015 --> 00:52:11.218
"the way we talked about--" and it goes--
00:52:11.284 --> 00:52:13.453
And it goes-- i think it would be great.
00:52:13.520 --> 00:52:14.287
I think it would be great. i think it will be the
00:52:14.354 --> 00:52:15.388
I think it will be the feel good hit of the summer.
00:52:15.455 --> 00:52:16.556
Feel good hit of the summer. i really do.
00:52:16.623 --> 00:52:18.358
I really do. great to see you.
00:52:18.425 --> 00:52:19.559
Great to see you. >> matt: so the title is
00:52:19.626 --> 00:52:20.093
>> matt: so the title is what?
00:52:20.160 --> 00:52:20.393
What? >> mike: whatever you want.
00:52:20.460 --> 00:52:20.994
>> mike: whatever you want. i don't care anymore.
00:52:21.061 --> 00:52:21.628
I don't care anymore. >> matt: all right.
00:52:21.695 --> 00:52:27.167
>> matt: all right. if there was a time you
00:52:27.234 --> 00:52:28.368
If there was a time you should have explained to
00:52:28.435 --> 00:52:29.803
Should have explained to me that you didn't want to
00:52:29.869 --> 00:52:30.870
Me that you didn't want to name the show
00:52:30.937 --> 00:52:32.772
Name the show "the way i heard it,"
00:52:32.839 --> 00:52:34.708
"the way i heard it," it would have been before
00:52:34.774 --> 00:52:35.475
It would have been before you made a sign that
00:52:35.542 --> 00:52:37.043
You made a sign that nobody asked you to make?
00:52:37.110 --> 00:52:38.378
Nobody asked you to make? >> matt: at some point
00:52:38.445 --> 00:52:39.579
>> matt: at some point we've got figure this out.
00:52:39.646 --> 00:52:40.914
We've got figure this out. >> mike: this is the point.
00:52:40.981 --> 00:52:42.782
>> mike: this is the point. this is the promo you need
00:52:42.849 --> 00:52:44.184
This is the promo you need for the show that doesn't
00:52:44.251 --> 00:52:45.151
For the show that doesn't have a title yet that you
00:52:45.218 --> 00:52:46.219
Have a title yet that you asked me to be a part of.
00:52:46.286 --> 00:52:47.587
Asked me to be a part of. if you're just joining us,
00:52:47.654 --> 00:52:48.221
If you're just joining us, matt made a metal sign.
00:52:48.288 --> 00:52:49.422
Matt made a metal sign. >> matt: i thought that
00:52:49.489 --> 00:52:50.790
>> matt: i thought that was going to be the name
00:52:50.857 --> 00:52:51.558
Was going to be the name of the show.
00:52:51.625 --> 00:52:52.959
Of the show. >> mike: you made a sign.
00:52:53.026 --> 00:52:53.827
>> mike: you made a sign. what, do you want a parade?
00:52:53.893 --> 00:52:54.427
What, do you want a parade? ♪ music
00:52:54.494 --> 00:52:57.297
♪ music >> matt: the sign is
00:52:57.364 --> 00:52:57.764
>> matt: the sign is already made.
00:52:57.831 --> 00:52:58.999
Already made. so why are we changing the
00:52:59.065 --> 00:52:59.933
So why are we changing the title of the show after
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:01.368
Title of the show after the sign was made?
00:53:01.434 --> 00:53:04.237
The sign was made? >> mike: how hard would it
00:53:04.304 --> 00:53:05.171
>> mike: how hard would it be to get up there with
00:53:05.238 --> 00:53:05.705
Be to get up there with like a sharpie?
00:53:05.772 --> 00:53:07.907
Like a sharpie? ♪ music
00:53:07.974 --> 00:53:09.409
♪ music the show is my podcast,
00:53:09.476 --> 00:53:11.111
The show is my podcast, which is called
00:53:11.177 --> 00:53:11.845
Which is called "the way i heard it."
00:53:11.911 --> 00:53:13.413
"the way i heard it." we're going to sit down
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:13.913
We're going to sit down and discuss the stories in
00:53:13.980 --> 00:53:15.181
And discuss the stories in my podcast in a new show
00:53:15.248 --> 00:53:16.816
My podcast in a new show called, "the story behind
00:53:16.883 --> 00:53:17.350
Called, "the story behind the story."
00:53:17.417 --> 00:53:20.120
The story." >> matt: could you have
00:53:20.186 --> 00:53:20.920
>> matt: could you have maybe talked to me about
00:53:20.987 --> 00:53:22.422
Maybe talked to me about wanting to change the
00:53:22.489 --> 00:53:23.657
Wanting to change the title of the show?
00:53:23.723 --> 00:53:24.791
Title of the show? you just get here and
00:53:24.858 --> 00:53:25.525
You just get here and change it.
00:53:25.592 --> 00:53:27.827
Change it. >> mike: stop talking for
00:53:27.894 --> 00:53:28.561
>> mike: stop talking for a minute.
00:53:28.628 --> 00:53:29.262
A minute. what you do, you listen to
00:53:29.329 --> 00:53:29.829
What you do, you listen to the story, and then you
00:53:29.896 --> 00:53:30.530
The story, and then you try to figure out who i'm
00:53:30.597 --> 00:53:31.064
Try to figure out who i'm talking about.
00:53:31.131 --> 00:53:31.798
Talking about. and at the end i tell you.
00:53:31.865 --> 00:53:32.365
And at the end i tell you. you go, "oh, i can't
00:53:32.432 --> 00:53:32.966
You go, "oh, i can't believe it."
00:53:33.033 --> 00:53:33.633
Believe it." if that's not crystal clear,
00:53:33.700 --> 00:53:34.601
If that's not crystal clear, i don't know how else to
00:53:34.668 --> 00:53:35.602
I don't know how else to drive it home.
00:53:35.669 --> 00:53:36.970
Drive it home. >> matt: i stopped
00:53:37.037 --> 00:53:37.771
>> matt: i stopped listening there for a
00:53:37.837 --> 00:53:38.271
Listening there for a second.
00:53:38.338 --> 00:53:39.139
Second. >> mike: just like a child.
00:53:39.205 --> 00:53:40.307
>> mike: just like a child. like an eight year old child.
00:53:40.373 --> 00:53:42.442
Like an eight year old child. >> matt: i'm looking
00:53:42.509 --> 00:53:43.410
>> matt: i'm looking forward to it.
00:53:43.476 --> 00:53:44.177
Forward to it. >> mike: i think it's
00:53:44.244 --> 00:53:44.678
>> mike: i think it's going to be great.
00:53:44.744 --> 00:53:46.646
Going to be great. tuesdays at nine?
00:53:46.713 --> 00:53:47.213
Tuesdays at nine? >> matt: no.
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:48.048
>> mike: saturdays at four?
00:53:48.682 --> 00:53:49.215
>> mike: saturdays at four? >> matt: no.
00:53:49.282 --> 00:53:49.816
>> matt: no. >> mike: wednesdays at six?
00:53:49.883 --> 00:53:50.884
>> matt: no.
00:53:51.484 --> 00:53:51.818
>> matt: no. let me show you the sign
00:53:51.885 --> 00:53:52.352
Let me show you the sign out here, though.
00:53:52.419 --> 00:53:52.752

Mike Rowe" SWEAT Pledge Colorado | Praise

August 4, 2025 | 55:30

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