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Natalie Grant: Finding Hope in Every Season | Praise

November 25, 2024 | 55:29

Sheila Walsh hosts Natalie Grant.

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Praise | Natalie Grant: Finding Hope in Every Season | Praise | November 25, 2024

- coming up tonight on praise.
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- you know, so often we come to the lord with our prayers, as we
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Should, and i'm discovering the power of thanksgiving.
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- gratitude, and anxiety, worry cannot exist in the brain
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At the same time.
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And so, if you're stressed out today or worried today,
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Just begin to thank god.
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Recall a moment that he was good.
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Thank him. thank him. thank him.
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That gratitude will actually--
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That worry can't exist in your brain at the same time when
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You're giving thanks to god.
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[music]
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- tonight on praise, from nashville,
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Award-winning contemporary singer and songwriter,
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Natalie grant.
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And now, sheila walsh.
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- hi, everybody.
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Welcome to nashville.
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And you know that if we're in nashville,
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We're going to get to hear some good singing.
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One of the things i love about being here at the huckabee
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Studio is just so many of my friends live fairly close to
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Here and to be able to invite them to come in.
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And when my guest tonight said yes,
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I was just over the moon because i have loved and respected her
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For so many years.
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So, natalie, it's just a joy to have you here.
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- it is a joy to be here and to see you.
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That's so funny.
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I was thinking about the very first time i ever met you.
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And i don't know if you remember this,
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But it was because i was the one freaking out.
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I was like, "gosh, that's sheila walsh.
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I'm totally freaking out right now.”
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It was women of faith in sacramento, california.
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And it was my very first time.
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And i was at the mall.
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It was in--
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I forget the name of that mall in sacramento, california,
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But i just remember you were in this cute little puffer coat
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With your sunglasses walking through the mall.
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And i was like, "that's sheila walsh.”
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And i was like, "hi, i really want to meet you.”
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But i am at women at faith for the first time.
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And that was the first time we ever met.
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And i don't even want to think about how many years ago that
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Was because i think it was like 22 years ago.
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- oh, at least, yeah.
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I remember the very first time that you were with us at women
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Of faith because i was sitting beside thelma wells,
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And you started to sing.
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Your voice, natalie, was just--
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It's the combination of the power of your voice,
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The anointing of the lord, and just who you are
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That just comes through.
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Did you always know you could sing from when you were little?
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- well, i mean, i always knew i could sing.
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I grew up in a musical family.
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I'm the youngest of five kids.
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We grew up singing together.
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My mom was always the special singer.
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Like, you know, when church used to have the specials for
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The offertory, my mom would always do the high-low track of
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The sandy patty song.
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And so, you know, i always knew i could sing, musical family.
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But i didn't ever go, "i'm going to do this with my life”"
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I just loved singing.
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I loved singing in church.
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I'm a church girl.
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So, i just thought i'm always going to serve
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In the local church.
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But no, i actually thought i was going to be an elementary
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School teacher.
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- really?
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Oh, wow.
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Thank you for not doing that.
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- well, all the students out there should thank it, too,
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Because i tried to homeschool my kids,
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And it turns out i'm terrible at it.
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- i wouldn't even have tried that.
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There's so many things i want to talk to you about.
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But before we get into any of it, i have to say that recently,
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I watched two or three things that you posted from the
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Belonging church conference.
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I have to tell you, natalie, i wasn't there,
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But just from what i saw--
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- i get goosebumps thinking about it.
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- this was like something--
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I don't even know the word.
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It felt holy, and it felt filled with the presence of god.
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- you know, it's funny.
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As a church, i've been involved at the belonging cove
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Since 2016.
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It's when bernie and i started going to church there.
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And what drew us to it, the pastors, henry and alex seeley,
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They really understand how to steward the presence of god.
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And, you know, obviously being involved in church ministry,
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Being involved in ministry, you know,
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We know what a run sheet is, we know what a minute by minute is.
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And it was interesting going to a place that felt
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Free enough, not--
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God's a god of order, so i don't mean like crazy,
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But i mean free enough to not have to live by a minute by
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Minute and go, "if god is moving,
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And we have a second service that has to get in,
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And people are going to be in line out the door,
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And it's going to be hard to get in the parking lot,
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It's going to be okay.
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It's okay because god is moving.”
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And that conference, we'd fasted and prayed as a church
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And just really knew we're in interesting times in the world.
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And honestly, we need the presence of god to just
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Transform our churches.
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Never mind the world.
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We need him to transform the world,
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But we also need him to transform our churches.
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And there was just a tangible sense of the presence of god.
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I've never heard him speak audibly, but that sense of,
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Wait, surely the lord is in this place.
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Like, surely the lord is in this place.
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And there was moments we felt like we couldn't move,
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The presence of god was so thick.
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And i feel like there's these clips that have been posted,
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And people are commenting, "i wasn't there,
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But i'm watching this clip, and i now feel--
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I sense the presence of god in my car, in my house, in my--”
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It's just been really incredible.
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- so, i went on to your instagram and i watched a couple
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Of those clips, and it was really--
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It shifted something in me because it felt like the weight
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Of god's presence.
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You know, it just felt like--
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Because i used to--
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I said to barry not long ago, "i used to think in my christian
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Life that i wanted answers.
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Now i realize, no, i want the presence of god because the
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Presence of god changes everything."
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- yeah, it does.
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And honestly, it's interesting because sometimes you think of
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The presence of god.
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Yes, he's omnipresent and he's everywhere, at all places,
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At all times, right?
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But there's also the manifest presence of god,
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Where it's his presence made known,
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Where it's like he makes his presence known to us.
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And i often think, "you didn't have to do that, lord.”
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Like you're the king of all glory.
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Like you don't have to make yourself known to us,
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But you want to.
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You want us to be in your presence.
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You want us to experience that tangible manifest
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Presence of god.
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And sometimes i can't even explain it,
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But you try to put words to it.
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You're like, "i can't explain it, but i know it.
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I recognize it when it's there, i know it when it's happening,
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And i know that it shifts everything.”
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It shifts your attitude.
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It shifts your perspective.
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It shifts your mood.
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Which i oftentimes need a mood shift.
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Especially now.
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These ages i'm getting to that i don't want to admit,
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But i get a little moodier than i used to be.
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And you just are like, "lord, i actually need your presence.
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I need your presence to raise three teenage girls right now.
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I need your presence to keep doing what--
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I need your presence.
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Otherwise, it's like it feels empty.
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- what would you say to people who are watching at home and
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Think, "gosh, i wish i could experience that,
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But my church is not really like that"?
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- how do you--
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What would you say?
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- well, you know, it's interesting because the presence
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Of god is not confined to a church building.
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So, if your church isn't like that,
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Begin to call out and cry out to god for his presence
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In your everyday life.
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You know, i remember back in 2020,
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I was so desperate for a move of god in my own life,
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And i began to read exodus, which, you know,
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Is not really a book that you kind of go,
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"i'm going to just run to exodus.”
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I've always been kind of a new testament girl because jesus is
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On the scene, and the old testament sometimes is scary.
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And so, i would just sometimes be like,
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"i'm going to stick with the gospels.”
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But i went through exodus, and i just remember that moment of
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Reading the words of moses who said, "god,
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Show me your glorious presence,” and understanding
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That story of wait.
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You know, god said, "i'm going to deliver you to the promised
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Land because i told you i would, but because of your sin and some
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Things, i'm going to hold my presence back.”
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And then you start to read, and you kind of,
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My paraphrased version is basically,
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But what is the promised land without your presence?
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Your presence is the promised land.
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Like how could we do this without your presence?
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And then, he says those words, "god,
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Show me your glorious presence.”
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And i started praying that every day.
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God, show me your glorious presence, like in the mundane,
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In the tired, in the whatever, show me.
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And so, if somebody is going, "but my church isn't like that.”
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Okay, but god still wants to meet you wherever you are.
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So, when you wake up, start going, "okay, today, god,
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Show me your glorious presence.”
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And honestly, that is his will.
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He wants to show it to you.
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So, when you are praying that, you are already praying
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The will of god.
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It's a prayer he wants you to pray,
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And you will be shocked at what god begins to show you when you
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Just say those simple words, "god, today,
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Show me your glorious presence."
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- i love that.
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I'm going to start praying that.
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Seriously.
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- yes.
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Show me your glorious presence.
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- it's interesting because i remember that part where god is,
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You know, displeased with his people and tells them they can
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Go on, but he's not going with them.
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And moses is like, "if you're not going, i'm not going."
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- no.
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- it's like even with jesus, when the disciples, you know,
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When he says to them, "are you going to go?”
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And it's like, "where would we go?
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Who else would there be in this world that we would
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Want to follow?"
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- yes.
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- so, one of the things that i loved discovering last night was
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So, you're now like a covered girl, you and gracie.
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I love that.
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I think it's a current edition of people health.
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- yes.
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People magazine health.
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- yeah.
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Tell me why you and gracie were in that.
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- so, i don't know if some of the viewers will remember this
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Or if you'll remember this, but so back in, oh goodness,
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I can't even remember the year right now,
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But several years ago, i believe gracie was nine or 10 years old.
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She had an asthma attack that almost took her life.
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And, you know, we had just discovered that she'd had
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Asthma, and if i'm being honest, i just didn't know
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Anything about asthma.
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I didn't know anybody really with asthma.
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And i didn't know how serious it was.
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And i mean, now sitting here having this conversation,
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Of course you should, it's breathing.
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It's important.
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Like we should all know.
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When you can't breathe, it's not okay.
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But i didn't really know, oh, when you're having an asthma
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Attack, it's actually like you can't breathe.
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And she's just always been such a strong girl that's like, "oh,
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I don't want to cause anybody any problems,
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So i'm just going to put on a brave face.”
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And it was a christmas, and it was a christmas eve,
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And i remember looking at her.
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We were taking pictures of her with my parents.
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And i just like, "gracie, are you okay?”
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And she was like, "no.”
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And she was catching her breath funny.
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And i was like, "okay, well, but it's christmas eve.”
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And if i'm being honest, i was like, "oh,
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It's going to be okay.
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You're going to be okay.
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It's christmas eve.”
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She wasn't okay.
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And it was two days later.
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My brother's a doctor.
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My niece is a nurse practitioner.
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They were looking at her and going,
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"she needs to go to the emergency room.”
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And i was like, "what?
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Like, what are you talking about?”
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And i didn't know that they had been watching her
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And counting her breaths.
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And by the time we got her into children's hospital,
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We were in seattle visiting my family,
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And there's about eight doctors that swarmed in.
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They rushed her immediately.
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And they said, "we do an asthmatic on a scale of one to
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10, and your daughter's an 11”"
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- oh, my god.
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- and she was in the icu for six days.
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And i remember that time, the outpouring of prayer and support
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From just around the world was just overwhelming.
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And she had a miraculous turnaround.
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And it was about six months later,
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We got to go speak on capitol hill.
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And i remember she was 10 years old.
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And she stood in front of those senators and said,
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"if you are a mom or a dad and your child says that they're
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Struggling, take them seriously.”
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And i'm standing there going, "i didn't take her seriously.
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Like, i'm going to say that right now in front of all of you
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Very important people.
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I didn't.”
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It's like genuine ignorance.
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I just didn't know.
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So, all these years later, we get a phone call from people
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Magazine that says it's asthma awareness month,
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And somebody here remembered the story about your daughter.
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How is she doing?
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We'd love to put you guys on the cover and have her
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Tell your story.
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And i'm like, "well, what's incredible is, you know,
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She doesn't even hardly ever need an inhaler anymore.”
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She did exactly what--
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We got serious about it.
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And we started to understand that.
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And so, it was so cool.
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Talk about a redemption story.
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- the photos are gorgeous.
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Wow.
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- it was so fun.
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I just said, "if nothing else, i got to have this moment
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With my daughter.”
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I'm like, thank you for letting us have these pictures together.
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We got to have our dog in some of the pictures.
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It was just like a little very fun mother daughter.
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And the other sisters might have been a little bit envious
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That she got to be on people magazine,
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But they'll get over it.
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- obviously, i want to talk about your album, "seasons",
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Which is amazing.
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But i know you're sitting at home thinking,
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Will you just let the girl sing?
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So, let's take a listen to one of my favorite songs
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From the album.
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It's called--
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Tell us about it.
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Why did you pick "you will be found"?
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- so, i don't know if you know this,
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But this song is originally from a broadway musical
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Called "dear evan hansen".
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And the writers of the songs, we happen to know one of them,
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Justin paul, personally, very well.
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An incredible jesus follower who is right now one of
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The most sought after.
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They've written "the greatest showman".
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They wrote "dear evan hansen".
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They wrote like all the songs for all these musicals.
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And they're just--
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And he constantly tells us, "i'm a missionary.
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I'm on broadway and i'm a missionary.”
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And it's funny because every time i heard that song,
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I knew what it was.
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I knew it was from this musical.
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I heard jesus in that song.
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And i'm like, "that's because i know who wrote this song and i
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Know what he was thinking.”
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And i heard it during 2020.
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I've had the same manager for--
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Well, he's been my only manager.
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And he brought this song up to me.
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And there was a story that we were both aware of somebody that
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We love very much that was literally kind of like
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Face down on the ground.
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Like, you know what i mean?
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Like that moment if somebody needs to find them,
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And pick them up, and tell them that everything's
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Going to be ok.
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And there was that story that had just happened.
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He had been the dj or something for the ellen show.
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Remember, he took his own life.
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- yes.
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- and nobody saw it coming because he was always happy.
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He was always smile, dancing.
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The guy playing the music for everybody to dance to,
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But he was breaking behind that and nobody knew it.
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And there was something about it was 2020.
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And there was something about that song that was like, ok,
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We have to be better.
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Obviously, jesus is the answer to people being found,
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And picked up, and being set free.
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But we are jesus with skin on.
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And we have to do a better job of asking, "how are you?”
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And not just, "how you doing?”
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And then, somebody gives you an answer and you move on,
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But actually being willing to listen.
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And then, when they give you the pat answer going, "actually,
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I'm going to ask that again.
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How are you really?”
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And there was something about that song that i felt like was
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Going to help people have those conversations.
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That's really why i picked it.
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- going to love it.
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So, just listen to this beautiful "you will be found".
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♪ have you ever felt like nobody was there? ♪
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♪ have you ever felt forgotten in the middle of nowhere? ♪
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♪ have you ever felt like you could disappear? ♪
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♪ like you could fall, and no one would hear? ♪
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♪ so, let that lonely feeling wash away ♪
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♪ maybe there's a reason to believe you'll be okay ♪
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♪ 'cause when you don't feel strong enough to stand ♪
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♪ well, you can reach, reach out your hand ♪
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♪ and oh, someone will come running ♪
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♪ and i know, they'll take you home ♪
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♪ 'cause even when the dark comes crashing through ♪
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♪ when you need a friend to carry you ♪
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♪ and when you're broken on the ground ♪
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♪ you will be found
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♪ so, let the sun come streaming in ♪
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♪ 'cause you'll reach up and you'll rise again ♪
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♪ lift your head and look around ♪
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♪ and you will be found
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♪ yeah, you will be found
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♪ oh yeah
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♪ there's a place where we don't have to feel unknown ♪
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♪ and every time you call out, you're a little less alone ♪
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♪ oh, and if you only say the word, oh ♪
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♪ from across the silence, your voice is heard, oh ♪
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♪ 'cause even when the dark comes crashing through ♪
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♪ when you need a friend to carry you ♪
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♪ and when you're broken on the ground ♪
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♪ you will be found
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♪ so, let the sun come streaming in ♪
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♪ 'cause you'll reach up and you'll rise again ♪
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♪ lift your head and look around ♪
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♪ and you will be found, yeah
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♪ you will be found, yeah
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♪ out of the shadows
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♪ the morning is breaking
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♪ all is new
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♪ yes, all is new
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♪ it's filling up the empty
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♪ and suddenly, i see that
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♪ everything is new, oh
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♪ 'cause even when the dark comes crashing through ♪
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♪ and when you need a friend to carry you ♪
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♪ and when you're broken on the ground ♪
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♪ you will be found
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♪ so, when the sun comes streaming in ♪
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♪ you'll reach up and you'll rise again ♪
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♪ lift your head, look around
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♪ and you will be found
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- wow, absolutely beautiful.
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So, talk to me about the whole "seasons” album.
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I mean, i remember when i downloaded it,
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I was like, "oh gosh."
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- because these are our songs.
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- oh yeah.
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- but also the people that you're singing with on it.
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- yes.
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- how did you put that whole project together?
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- well, honestly, when i say, "our songs,” i mean,
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Because we love christian and gospel music.
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And i grew up on that music.
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I grew up on--
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Obviously, it started because my parents didn't let me listen
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To anything else.
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And so, you know, that was--
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But also it was the music i loved.
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But i equally loved ccm, but i loved gospel music.
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And it's funny because i'm a kid from seattle, washington,
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Which is the birthplace of, you know, grunge music.
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Pearl jam and nirvana.
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But for whatever reason, i loved richard smallwood,
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And fred hammond, and the winans, and bebe & cece.
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That was my first concert i ever went to.
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And so, i just kind of felt like we had done--
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Bernie and i, during, you know, the great lockdown of 2020,
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Did songs from our living room.
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And we called it "a song a day keeps the crazies away".
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- i watched some of them.
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It was so sweet.
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- we just had so much fun sitting in our living room
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Going, "we have nothing else to do.
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We've played one too many rounds of uno.
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We can just sit here and record a song.”
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And what that turned into was less of me doing my songs and me
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Going to songs that have carried me through my life.
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And i realized, "wait, i have a sound--
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We all have a soundtrack.”
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I think it was dick clark who actually said,
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"music is the soundtrack of our lives.”
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But christian and gospel music is the soundtrack of my life.
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And so, i found myself going back to these songs that have
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Carried me through these seasons of my life, and doing them,
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And singing them how i like to sing them.
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Or, you know, it kind of is where the idea first came from.
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And then we said, "well, if we were going to make a record like
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This, like, what would this be like?”
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And bernie and i would just sit and dream
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And write down our songs.
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And then, all of a sudden, you know, i'm like, "well,
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What if i was to do it with some of these people,
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And these people?”
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And i made a list of like, "ok, who would my dream be
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To perform with?”
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And everybody said yes.
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I was like, "ok, this is like--
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I can actually retire.”
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I'm not going to, but i could because i made the
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Record of my dreams.
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Every one of my like favorite songs from growing up,
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Singing with my favorite people, past and present,
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And it was literally like a dream come true
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To make that record.
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- and i listened to the track of you and dolly parton.
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Yes, that one.
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And then saw you on stage.
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I'm like, "oh my gosh, natalie."
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- what is happening to my life?
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I don't know, but thank you, lord.
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These are like some bucket list items that are happening.
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- what was that like?
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- so, it was so amazing because if you would have told me when i
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First moved to this town that, you know--
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And i remember moving here, getting a temp job at medicare,
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Having to do accounts payable, driving in my beat up volkswagen
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Golf to my temp job every day.
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If you would have told that girl,
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"one day you're going to sing with dolly parton,"
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I would have said, "there is no possible way.”
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And even the way that that came about,
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I was asked to do the season opening concert for dollywood.
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And so, i was like, "well, of course.
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That'd be amazing.”
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And so, did this season opening.
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Well, i didn't know she was going to be there.
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And that week of the concert, her manager reached out and
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Said, "dolly is actually going to be there and would love to
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Sing a song with natalie if she's available.”
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And i said, "the park has her name on it.
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I think i'm available.”
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And then i said, "well, what song do you want to sing?”
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And i just thought anything that anybody has ever thought
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About dolly, that you imagine in your mind,
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Is she as down to earth as you think?
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Is she as sweet and genuine?
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That and a million times more.
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We said, "what song do you want to sing?”
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She said, "well, i want to sing 'just a little talk with jesus.”
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And i said, "ok, do you have a version?”
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"no,” she said, "i'll just tell her it's the one
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In the red hymnal.”
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[crosstalk]
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I was like, "just a little talk with jesus", red hymnal.
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But what i noticed--
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So, we did a little sound check before the concert.
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And when she came into the venue,
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She knew every person's name.
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She knew the guy behind the stage.
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She knew the guy that was running the lights.
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She asked about how this person's child was doing.
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She knew everybody and knew everything about their family,
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And it was so genuine.
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And i even just learned from that of, like, here she is,
00:25:16.338 --> 00:25:21.476
Dolly parton, this many decades later,
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And yet she still understands that people are more important
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Than the process, or the presentation,
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Or any of the things.
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It's people over presentation.
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And that, for me, even just spoke to me in that moment of,
00:25:35.190 --> 00:25:37.926
"ok, dolly gets how to put people first.”
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So, then i thought that was it.
00:25:41.029 --> 00:25:42.864
That was my bucket list moment.
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I sang with dolly.
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We sang "just a little talk with jesus".
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That was incredible.
00:25:47.068 --> 00:25:48.269
We both wore a little peach dress.
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It was just, like, amazing.
00:25:49.571 --> 00:25:51.006
And i knew i wanted to remake a song from the "preacher's wif”"
00:25:51.006 --> 00:25:56.678
Soundtrack called "step by step”
00:25:56.678 --> 00:25:58.647
That whitney houston had recorded.
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- great song.
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- and i kind of had this idea of, like,
00:26:01.316 --> 00:26:04.119
Let's have a bunch of girls on the song.
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And, you know, i didn't know who exactly.
00:26:06.021 --> 00:26:07.789
I hadn't really thought that went through very much.
00:26:07.789 --> 00:26:09.591
I did not know that my manager had, after we did that song,
00:26:09.591 --> 00:26:16.564
Reached out to dolly's manager and said, "hey,
00:26:16.564 --> 00:26:18.600
Natalie's doing this whitney song.
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Would dolly want to do it?"
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- well--
00:26:22.103 --> 00:26:23.104
- way to go, mitch.
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- mitch.
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Way to go, mitch.
00:26:24.773 --> 00:26:25.640
Well, mitch calls me and goes, "hey,
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:26.775
I just want you to know that dolly declined.”
00:26:26.775 --> 00:26:29.044
And i said, "declined what?”
00:26:29.044 --> 00:26:30.679
And he said, "oh, i didn't even tell you.”
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I'd asked her to sing on this song with you,
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But she's in the middle of making her own record right now
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And she just doesn't have the time,
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But she loves you and she's so sorry.
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And i was like, "oh, well, i don't even know how to be
00:26:40.088 --> 00:26:41.823
Disappointed because i didn't even know that you asked."
00:26:41.823 --> 00:26:43.191
Sheila, i--
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A week later, out of nowhere, mitchell calls me.
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I'm on stage.
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I get off stage.
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It says 14 missed calls.
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And i'm like--
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- whoa.
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- something is going--
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I was scared.
00:26:57.405 --> 00:26:58.506
I was like, "something serious has happened.”
00:26:58.506 --> 00:26:59.941
And he said, "open your emails.”
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And i'm like, "open my emails”"
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So, i look at my email.
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She had written me a letter, and it's on dolly letterhead.
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It says, "hot pink dolly," at the top.
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And it says, "dear natalie, i don't know if it's too late,
00:27:10.919 --> 00:27:14.222
But i keep listening to your demo of that song.
00:27:14.222 --> 00:27:17.859
It just keeps ringing and calling me back.
00:27:17.859 --> 00:27:20.161
And i can't get away from it.
00:27:20.161 --> 00:27:21.996
And if it's not too late for me,
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Would it be possible for me to sing this song?”
00:27:23.898 --> 00:27:26.601
And i'm like, "whose life is this?
00:27:26.601 --> 00:27:30.138
What is happening?
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So, now when you come in my house, that's framed.
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[laughter]
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Oh, don't mind me.
00:27:36.010 --> 00:27:37.045
That's just a little letter to me from dolly.
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- that's fabulous.
00:27:38.747 --> 00:27:41.382
- that's literally how it happened.
00:27:41.382 --> 00:27:42.884
It sounds like i'm making that up, and i'm like, "no,
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That actually happened in real life."
00:27:45.487 --> 00:27:47.655
- if you're just joining me, i am here in our nashville studios
00:27:47.655 --> 00:27:51.292
Tbn at the huckabee studio and talking with the one and only,
00:27:51.292 --> 00:27:55.096
Natalie grant.
00:27:55.096 --> 00:27:56.297
And you know what that says to me, though, natalie?
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The fact that everybody said yes to you speaks a lot
00:27:59.067 --> 00:28:02.971
About who you are.
00:28:02.971 --> 00:28:04.405
No, it does.
00:28:04.405 --> 00:28:05.707
I mean, i remember you that first time you stood up on the
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Platform and we just thought you were just adorable,
00:28:07.842 --> 00:28:10.512
Just this darling little girl with this humongous voice.
00:28:10.512 --> 00:28:14.516
But it's been your faithfulness through the years,
00:28:14.516 --> 00:28:17.352
And it's been your constantly saying yes to jesus.
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It's been showing up for other people.
00:28:20.388 --> 00:28:22.090
And that is why so many of these people
00:28:22.090 --> 00:28:24.692
Said absolutely yes.
00:28:24.692 --> 00:28:26.494
In fact, one of the ones that i think--
00:28:26.494 --> 00:28:28.930
I remember being in london, hammersmith audien,
00:28:28.930 --> 00:28:33.134
And hearing andre crouch sing, and it's actually where they
00:28:33.134 --> 00:28:36.938
Made a live album of that, singing "to god be the glory".
00:28:36.938 --> 00:28:41.042
And even though it's an older song, it's so powerful.
00:28:41.042 --> 00:28:47.715
- it's everything.
00:28:47.715 --> 00:28:48.917
That song, i often say, like, at my funeral, on my--
00:28:48.917 --> 00:28:53.488
Like, that song, those words, that is the cry of our heart,
00:28:53.488 --> 00:28:58.726
Is god, everything that we're doing,
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May it be to your glory because i can be honest and say that
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Obviously through the years, i'm human.
00:29:05.066 --> 00:29:07.769
My flesh has gotten in the way.
00:29:07.769 --> 00:29:09.304
There's been many different times where i've been like, "oh,
00:29:09.304 --> 00:29:12.907
Actually, i kind of would like a little bit of that glory.”
00:29:12.907 --> 00:29:15.443
I'd actually like for that to go like that,
00:29:15.443 --> 00:29:17.946
And i'd like a little bit of the spotlight.
00:29:17.946 --> 00:29:19.848
We're not built for the spotlight.
00:29:19.848 --> 00:29:21.482
And i've learned that through the years that as humans,
00:29:21.482 --> 00:29:26.154
If we're in the spotlight, we will crave it.
00:29:26.154 --> 00:29:29.257
We will like it.
00:29:29.257 --> 00:29:31.359
We will want a little bit more of it.
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.094
So, it is a constant dying to yourself every day.
00:29:33.094 --> 00:29:37.232
And some days i do it well, and other days i do not.
00:29:37.232 --> 00:29:40.702
But by the grace of god, he gives us the opportunity
00:29:40.702 --> 00:29:43.872
To try, try again.
00:29:43.872 --> 00:29:45.740
And i've just learned we're not built for the spotlight,
00:29:45.740 --> 00:29:49.210
Only the lord.
00:29:49.210 --> 00:29:50.845
The spotlight has to be him.
00:29:50.845 --> 00:29:52.780
And that song, to me, is that redirecting,
00:29:52.780 --> 00:29:56.217
That redirecting of, okay, yeah, we kind of like it.
00:29:56.217 --> 00:29:59.520
But if i gain any praise, let it go to calvary.
00:29:59.520 --> 00:30:04.859
And i knew that was one of the very first songs on my list for
00:30:04.859 --> 00:30:08.830
The "seasons” project because my mom sang that song
00:30:08.830 --> 00:30:12.333
Growing up.
00:30:12.333 --> 00:30:13.368
I remember andre crouch and the disciples.
00:30:13.368 --> 00:30:15.069
We had that on a record, like not even a cassette.
00:30:15.069 --> 00:30:17.805
It was like on record.
00:30:17.805 --> 00:30:19.340
And there was really only one person in my mind that i could
00:30:19.340 --> 00:30:25.813
Ever sing that song with.
00:30:25.813 --> 00:30:28.349
And to me, she is like the queen.
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- cece winans.
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- cece winans is the queen.
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- absolutely.
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- and that is because when i look at not just her artistry,
00:30:40.628 --> 00:30:44.799
Or her voice, or her gift, but when i look at her life,
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.303
Her life reflects that song.
00:30:48.303 --> 00:30:51.372
Her life is a picture of that song.
00:30:51.372 --> 00:30:53.741
Getting to do "my tribute to god be the glory”
00:30:53.741 --> 00:30:56.844
With cece winans is like all of life's goals.
00:30:56.844 --> 00:30:59.614
And i don't know where i go from here.
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[laughter]
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- so, you are going to love this.
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Listen to this beautiful, beautiful song
00:31:06.020 --> 00:31:08.589
And worship with us.
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♪ how can i say thanks
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♪ for the things you have done for me ♪
00:31:20.635 --> 00:31:28.276
♪ things so undeserved
00:31:28.276 --> 00:31:34.315
♪ yet you gave to prove your love for me ♪
00:31:34.315 --> 00:31:44.158
♪ the voices of a million angels ♪
00:31:44.158 --> 00:31:51.299
♪ could not express my gratitude ♪
00:31:51.299 --> 00:31:58.973
♪ all that i am and ever hope to be ♪
00:31:58.973 --> 00:32:09.650
♪ i owe it all, i owe it all to thee ♪
00:32:09.650 --> 00:32:17.725
♪ to god be the glory
00:32:17.725 --> 00:32:45.520
♪ for the things he has done
00:32:28.970 --> 00:32:53.461
♪ with his blood, he has saved me ♪
00:32:53.461 --> 00:33:02.537
♪ with his power, he has raised me ♪
00:33:02.537 --> 00:33:09.977
♪ to god be the glory
00:33:09.977 --> 00:33:18.820
♪ for the things he has done
00:33:18.820 --> 00:33:26.761
♪ just let me live, let me live my life ♪
00:33:26.761 --> 00:33:35.670
♪ and let it be pleasing, lord to thee ♪
00:33:35.670 --> 00:33:43.377
♪ and if i gain, if i gain any praise ♪
00:33:43.377 --> 00:33:49.750
♪ let it go to calvary,
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♪ i give it to calvary, yes
00:33:57.825 --> 00:34:02.430
♪ with his blood, he has saved me ♪
00:34:02.430 --> 00:34:10.204
♪ and with his power, my god has raised me ♪
00:34:10.204 --> 00:34:19.080
♪ to god be the glory
00:34:19.080 --> 00:34:28.489
♪ for the things he has done
00:34:28.489 --> 00:34:35.329
♪ for the things, everything that he's done ♪
00:34:35.329 --> 00:34:43.571
♪ for the things, for all the things he has done ♪
00:34:43.571 --> 00:35:02.056
♪ for all you've done
00:35:02.056 --> 00:35:06.794
♪ you've been so good to me, yes you have ♪
00:35:06.794 --> 00:35:11.599
♪ for the way that you've healed ♪
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:17.471
♪ you've restored
00:35:17.471 --> 00:35:21.275
♪ you've always been there for me ♪
00:35:21.275 --> 00:35:24.946
♪ you've never left me on my own ♪
00:35:24.946 --> 00:35:28.082
♪ and when i look back over my life ♪
00:35:28.082 --> 00:35:32.253
♪ you've been my constant faithful companion ♪
00:35:32.253 --> 00:35:36.557
♪ you've never failed me, jesus, oh ♪
00:35:36.557 --> 00:35:42.029
♪ i want to say thank you, thank you, thank you ♪
00:35:42.029 --> 00:35:47.101
♪ we thank you, thank you, thank you ♪
00:35:47.101 --> 00:35:51.706
♪ you have been good
00:35:51.706 --> 00:35:58.579
♪ we want to say thank you
00:35:58.579 --> 00:36:07.355
♪ for all the things you have done ♪
00:36:07.355 --> 00:36:25.673
♪ thank you
00:36:25.673 --> 00:36:40.421
- you just kind of want to pause for a moment, don't you?
00:36:41.555 --> 00:36:43.157
Just kind of want to pause in the lord's presence.
00:36:43.157 --> 00:36:47.128
There's just something about that, you know,
00:36:47.128 --> 00:36:49.163
That it's such a--
00:36:49.163 --> 00:36:51.732
It's like a telling of all of our stories.
00:36:51.732 --> 00:36:54.935
How can i give thanks for all the things you've done for me?
00:36:54.935 --> 00:36:57.605
Things so undeserved.
00:36:57.605 --> 00:36:59.540
So, maybe just take a few moments yourself and just allow
00:36:59.540 --> 00:37:03.477
That sink deep into your heart because i've discovered the
00:37:03.477 --> 00:37:07.915
Power of thanksgiving.
00:37:07.915 --> 00:37:10.151
You know, so often, where we come to the lord with our
00:37:10.151 --> 00:37:12.453
Prayers, as we should, but i'm discovering
00:37:12.453 --> 00:37:14.855
The power of thanksgiving.
00:37:14.855 --> 00:37:16.891
You remember when paul said, you know,
00:37:16.891 --> 00:37:18.793
"be anxious for nothing, but everything with prayer and
00:37:18.793 --> 00:37:20.961
Supplication with thanksgiving.”
00:37:20.961 --> 00:37:23.397
Let your requests be made known to god.
00:37:23.397 --> 00:37:25.333
So, i've started--
00:37:25.333 --> 00:37:26.701
I actually started with my husband.
00:37:26.701 --> 00:37:27.902
He started keeping a gratitude thanksgiving journal.
00:37:27.902 --> 00:37:30.137
And it really shifts everything.
00:37:30.137 --> 00:37:32.206
- i don't even mean to interrupt you,
00:37:32.206 --> 00:37:34.141
But because you said that, and don't quote me on the study,
00:37:34.141 --> 00:37:38.979
But i know it exists because i read it myself.
00:37:38.979 --> 00:37:41.315
But they actually did a scientific study that proved
00:37:41.315 --> 00:37:45.353
That gratitude and anxiety worry cannot exist in the brain
00:37:45.353 --> 00:37:50.624
At the same time.
00:37:50.624 --> 00:37:52.193
So, you think, "oh, if i'm feeling anxious,
00:37:52.193 --> 00:37:55.363
If i'm feeling worried about something,”
00:37:55.363 --> 00:37:57.832
If you begin to go, "okay, i'm going to thank god,
00:37:57.832 --> 00:38:00.968
I'm going to thank god.”
00:38:00.968 --> 00:38:02.136
And sometimes i'm like, "okay, but in this moment,
00:38:02.136 --> 00:38:03.371
Actually i don't even--
00:38:03.371 --> 00:38:04.939
I know there's things i could be thankful for,
00:38:04.939 --> 00:38:06.707
But i'm overwhelmed by this so much that i can't even think
00:38:06.707 --> 00:38:10.010
About the things i'm thankful for.”
00:38:10.010 --> 00:38:11.545
But all of us can recall something,
00:38:11.545 --> 00:38:14.949
Some moment that god showed up, god did something.
00:38:14.949 --> 00:38:18.419
I think of psalm 77 that says,
00:38:18.419 --> 00:38:20.354
"oh, did you forget about me, god?
00:38:20.354 --> 00:38:22.490
Like, did you slam the door on your kindness, your goodness?”
00:38:22.490 --> 00:38:25.259
And some of us actually feel that way sometimes.
00:38:25.259 --> 00:38:27.695
Like, god's actually forgotten about me in this moment.
00:38:27.695 --> 00:38:30.331
And then, there's this little word that says, “selah,"
00:38:30.331 --> 00:38:33.667
Which means a rest, pause, take a second.
00:38:33.667 --> 00:38:37.872
And then, all of a sudden, you see this shift and you see all.
00:38:37.872 --> 00:38:41.976
But i remember.
00:38:41.976 --> 00:38:43.677
I remember how you showed up for me.
00:38:43.677 --> 00:38:45.746
I recall and i recount your goodness.
00:38:45.746 --> 00:38:48.215
And so, if you're stressed out today or worried today,
00:38:48.215 --> 00:38:52.219
Just begin to thank god.
00:38:52.219 --> 00:38:53.954
Recall a moment that he was good, that he did remember you,
00:38:53.954 --> 00:38:57.358
That you know that he's been good to you.
00:38:57.358 --> 00:38:59.360
If you have air in your lungs, he's been good to you.
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.129
And begin to thank him.
00:39:02.129 --> 00:39:03.931
Over, and over, and over again thank him, thank him, thank him.
00:39:03.931 --> 00:39:06.300
And that gratitude will actually--
00:39:06.300 --> 00:39:09.036
That worry can't exist in your brain at the same time when
00:39:09.036 --> 00:39:12.840
You're giving thanks to god.
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:14.008
- that's a great word, natalie.
00:39:14.008 --> 00:39:15.376
And they actually know now that it actually can change the
00:39:15.376 --> 00:39:17.978
Neuroplasticity of your brain, makes new pathways because if
00:39:17.978 --> 00:39:22.016
You keep going down one pathway of being anxious and fearful,
00:39:22.016 --> 00:39:24.652
You think that that's kind of established.
00:39:24.652 --> 00:39:26.554
But gratitude and thanksgiving shifts that and changes that.
00:39:26.554 --> 00:39:30.958
- but also you said neuroplastic.
00:39:30.958 --> 00:39:32.660
I don't even know what that is, but way to go.
00:39:32.660 --> 00:39:34.261
[laughter]
00:39:34.261 --> 00:39:35.663
Sheila's always so smart.
00:39:35.663 --> 00:39:37.498
I don't know if y'all actually know that.
00:39:37.498 --> 00:39:40.100
Sheila walsh is beautiful and incredibly smart.
00:39:40.100 --> 00:39:45.039
Smart.
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.106
Knows the word.
00:39:46.106 --> 00:39:46.941
Anyway.
00:39:46.941 --> 00:39:50.144
- so, one of the things that kind of blew me away,
00:39:51.178 --> 00:39:53.214
Because i remember--
00:39:53.214 --> 00:39:54.482
I mean, i remember bella and gracie as tiny little ones.
00:39:54.482 --> 00:39:57.918
- with the hot pink--
00:39:57.918 --> 00:39:59.253
- yes, with the hot pink--
00:39:59.253 --> 00:40:00.488
- so that the noise from the stage would--
00:40:00.488 --> 00:40:04.258
Yes.
00:40:04.258 --> 00:40:05.392
- but now to see the state that they're at, i mean,
00:40:05.392 --> 00:40:08.429
Give us an update on your family, on gracie, and bella,
00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:12.166
And darling sadie.
00:40:12.166 --> 00:40:13.167
- yes.
00:40:13.167 --> 00:40:14.535
So gracie and bella, the twins, they are 17, not far from 18,
00:40:14.535 --> 00:40:19.206
Which is crazy.
00:40:19.206 --> 00:40:20.374
Seniors in high school.
00:40:20.374 --> 00:40:21.742
On the first day of school, which was their last first day
00:40:21.742 --> 00:40:25.646
Of school, i know they'll have a first day of college,
00:40:25.646 --> 00:40:27.581
But i may have chased their car down the street.
00:40:27.581 --> 00:40:30.351
I was like, "come back, come back, come back.”
00:40:30.351 --> 00:40:34.154
It's just crazy to me that we are already at this stage
00:40:34.154 --> 00:40:38.726
And everything.
00:40:38.726 --> 00:40:39.960
If you're in the throw of diapers, and cleaning bottles,
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:43.531
And lack of sleep, and i'm telling you,
00:40:43.531 --> 00:40:46.634
I feel like i was just there.
00:40:46.634 --> 00:40:48.669
Everything everybody says to you is true.
00:40:48.669 --> 00:40:50.137
You don't feel it right now.
00:40:50.137 --> 00:40:51.772
You don't feel it because you're like,
00:40:51.772 --> 00:40:53.507
"i just want a full night's sleep.”
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But i'm telling you, it's going to--
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Don't blink because it's going to go in the blink of an eye.
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And so, they're thinking about colleges and have their list of
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Where they want to go.
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And sadie is 13, and in the eighth grade,
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And the tallest girl in the family.
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- wow.
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- and you know what?
00:41:11.525 --> 00:41:12.993
They--
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Listen.
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Bernie and i have not done this perfectly,
00:41:15.296 --> 00:41:17.498
But what i can tell you is we could never raise our family
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Without the church.
00:41:22.469 --> 00:41:23.871
We could not do it without the church.
00:41:23.871 --> 00:41:26.607
And i know that the church has taken a little bit of a beating
00:41:26.607 --> 00:41:31.946
Over the last few years and there are a lot of people who've
00:41:31.946 --> 00:41:35.115
Been hurt by the church.
00:41:35.115 --> 00:41:36.350
I actually know that.
00:41:36.350 --> 00:41:37.685
And there's no discrediting or discounting the hurt that people
00:41:37.685 --> 00:41:42.756
In the church have caused so many people.
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But the church was god's idea.
00:41:45.826 --> 00:41:47.628
And the local church is such an important part of a family,
00:41:47.628 --> 00:41:53.200
A family life.
00:41:53.200 --> 00:41:54.568
And honestly, like when i think about people saying it takes a
00:41:54.568 --> 00:41:57.905
Village, we could not have done it without our church community.
00:41:57.905 --> 00:42:01.909
Our girls, again, not perfect, not perfect kids,
00:42:01.909 --> 00:42:05.946
But they love jesus with all of their hearts.
00:42:05.946 --> 00:42:08.282
They love the church.
00:42:08.282 --> 00:42:09.984
They love his presence.
00:42:09.984 --> 00:42:11.285
They never want to miss.
00:42:11.285 --> 00:42:12.353
Like we just had church conference,
00:42:12.353 --> 00:42:13.687
And they like literally are counting down the sleeps until
00:42:13.687 --> 00:42:17.191
Church conference is there.
00:42:17.191 --> 00:42:18.525
Like they just love to be in the presence of god.
00:42:18.525 --> 00:42:20.794
They are worshipers.
00:42:20.794 --> 00:42:21.962
And so, it's been really incredible to watch them grow
00:42:21.962 --> 00:42:27.468
And watch them grow in their relationship with the lord.
00:42:27.468 --> 00:42:29.837
But i do have to say that the one thing that,
00:42:29.837 --> 00:42:33.907
If we did one thing right, it was that we put an
00:42:33.907 --> 00:42:36.910
Emphasis on church.
00:42:36.910 --> 00:42:38.946
And even if they were dancers, or athletes, or whatever,
00:42:38.946 --> 00:42:42.349
We never allowed outside activities to choke out
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Going to church.
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And that has made all the difference in our family.
00:42:49.023 --> 00:42:52.192
- i think that's a huge--
00:42:52.192 --> 00:42:53.661
I mean, that's a huge thing because i think particularly
00:42:53.661 --> 00:42:56.664
When the pandemic hit in 2020, a lot of people got very used to
00:42:56.664 --> 00:43:00.467
Just sitting and watching from home.
00:43:00.467 --> 00:43:02.269
But it's even in the book of revelation, you know, john says,
00:43:02.269 --> 00:43:07.541
"do not neglect--
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As the time is getting close, do not neglect
00:43:08.642 --> 00:43:10.210
In meeting together.”
00:43:10.210 --> 00:43:11.345
I think that's something that we perhaps--
00:43:11.345 --> 00:43:13.781
I don't know if that affects you or not.
00:43:13.781 --> 00:43:15.215
Maybe you say, "well, you know what?
00:43:15.215 --> 00:43:16.850
I'm a little disappointed in the church.”
00:43:16.850 --> 00:43:18.318
You know what, yeah, we do blow it, but jesus is faithful.
00:43:18.318 --> 00:43:21.889
And there's something about experiencing the presence of god
00:43:21.889 --> 00:43:25.292
Together and opening the word of god together.
00:43:25.292 --> 00:43:28.262
- and for your kids.
00:43:28.262 --> 00:43:29.463
You know, bernie and i hear a lot from families.
00:43:29.463 --> 00:43:32.566
We hear a lot like how--
00:43:32.566 --> 00:43:33.701
You know, they'll see our girls.
00:43:33.701 --> 00:43:35.269
And don't get it twisted.
00:43:35.269 --> 00:43:36.537
It's not perfect.
00:43:36.537 --> 00:43:37.838
I mean, instagram is always a really curated, beautiful--
00:43:37.838 --> 00:43:41.975
You know, it's all the pretty stuff.
00:43:41.975 --> 00:43:44.645
So, you know, it's not the hard stuff.
00:43:44.645 --> 00:43:47.881
There's definitely still hard stuff.
00:43:47.881 --> 00:43:50.050
And there's been hard seasons, and hard moments, and anxiety,
00:43:50.050 --> 00:43:54.555
And insecurity, and bullying.
00:43:54.555 --> 00:43:57.691
I mean, we've walked through some really hard things
00:43:57.691 --> 00:44:01.729
With our girls.
00:44:01.729 --> 00:44:03.063
But what i know to be true is that surrounding them with the
00:44:03.063 --> 00:44:09.069
Right community, one, limiting technology.
00:44:09.069 --> 00:44:12.072
I don't mean to sound like an old fashioned or like a,
00:44:12.072 --> 00:44:16.877
You know, legalistic.
00:44:16.877 --> 00:44:18.712
This isn't about legalism or rules, but it is just, yes.
00:44:18.712 --> 00:44:22.182
So, limiting technology, teaching them how to be
00:44:22.182 --> 00:44:25.819
Responsible with it, so like not ever letting them have it isn't
00:44:25.819 --> 00:44:28.922
Going to be smart because like i said, they're about to turn 18.
00:44:28.922 --> 00:44:31.391
So, if you're not equipping them how to actually go into the
00:44:31.391 --> 00:44:33.794
World, that also has to happen, but surrounding them with a
00:44:33.794 --> 00:44:39.099
Community of friends and people that are walking in the same
00:44:39.099 --> 00:44:43.237
Direction as them.
00:44:43.237 --> 00:44:44.404
And they don't all get it right,
00:44:44.404 --> 00:44:46.306
But they're walking together and seeking god together.
00:44:46.306 --> 00:44:50.377
And that's made just such a big difference for our family.
00:44:50.377 --> 00:44:52.513
- you know, it's interesting.
00:44:52.513 --> 00:44:53.814
Our son is almost 28 now, but i remember his first year in
00:44:53.814 --> 00:44:56.784
College at texas a&m.
00:44:56.784 --> 00:44:58.185
And he went with a bunch of the kids that--
00:44:58.185 --> 00:45:00.287
He went to christian school, and a bunch of them were in his
00:45:00.287 --> 00:45:03.023
Class at a&m.
00:45:03.023 --> 00:45:04.992
And i remember him coming home for christmas and saying,
00:45:04.992 --> 00:45:07.628
"you know, it's really interesting, mom.
00:45:07.628 --> 00:45:08.962
Some of my friends, now that they're not living at home with
00:45:08.962 --> 00:45:11.165
Their parents, they don't really want anything to do
00:45:11.165 --> 00:45:13.634
With church anymore.”
00:45:13.634 --> 00:45:15.035
And it made me realize the importance of living out your
00:45:15.035 --> 00:45:18.505
Faith 24-7, seven days a week.
00:45:18.505 --> 00:45:21.542
And the kids own their own faith, as opposed to just,
00:45:21.542 --> 00:45:25.579
Come on, we're going to church.
00:45:25.579 --> 00:45:27.047
But them understanding the love of jesus so that when they do
00:45:27.047 --> 00:45:30.417
Leave the nest, they're not going to get it all right.
00:45:30.417 --> 00:45:32.953
But they have their own faith, a faith
00:45:32.953 --> 00:45:35.689
That's worth fighting for.
00:45:35.689 --> 00:45:37.057
- let me tell you something that's actually--
00:45:37.057 --> 00:45:38.525
You know, this isn't to--
00:45:38.525 --> 00:45:39.660
I'm not a fear monger.
00:45:39.660 --> 00:45:41.862
I don't get into the trappings of--
00:45:41.862 --> 00:45:43.997
I think a lot of, in our society today,
00:45:43.997 --> 00:45:47.568
Especially in the church, people use fear.
00:45:47.568 --> 00:45:50.971
A lot of fear to be like, "oh, it's this
00:45:50.971 --> 00:45:53.941
And that and the other.”
00:45:53.941 --> 00:45:55.108
But, so my girls go to a christian school
00:45:55.108 --> 00:45:57.778
By the grace of god.
00:45:57.778 --> 00:45:59.079
I'm grateful that they're able to go to a christian school.
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:00.914
Right now, in their senior year of high school,
00:46:00.914 --> 00:46:02.950
They're in a christian dynamics class.
00:46:02.950 --> 00:46:04.818
And we just had parent night.
00:46:04.818 --> 00:46:06.553
And we sat with the teacher of that class.
00:46:06.553 --> 00:46:09.423
And he said, "the newest study that just came out said that
00:46:09.423 --> 00:46:13.327
70%,” he said, "that's on the low end.”
00:46:13.327 --> 00:46:17.030
He said, "they're actually saying it's more like 85,
00:46:17.030 --> 00:46:19.800
But we're going to go on the low end because we want
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.169
To be positive.
00:46:22.169 --> 00:46:23.470
70% of church kids, so these are kids that are like raised in
00:46:23.470 --> 00:46:28.475
A christian family, when they get to university,
00:46:28.475 --> 00:46:31.778
Are ditching their faith.”
00:46:31.778 --> 00:46:33.347
And they said, "now they say that about half of them when
00:46:33.347 --> 00:46:37.417
They start having kids will come back.”
00:46:37.417 --> 00:46:39.753
But still, that's a very high percentage of a generation
00:46:39.753 --> 00:46:45.959
That's like, "eh, this isn't for me.”
00:46:45.959 --> 00:46:49.129
That's for me even more of a wake-up call to parents and
00:46:49.129 --> 00:46:53.634
Grandparents to say whatever we have to.
00:46:53.634 --> 00:46:56.937
We have to equip our kids with the word of god,
00:46:56.937 --> 00:46:59.139
A foundation that isn't just based on a feeling or based on
00:46:59.139 --> 00:47:03.076
An emotion, but is actually a foundation of the word of god so
00:47:03.076 --> 00:47:07.714
That when they go out, and they might ask some hard questions.
00:47:07.714 --> 00:47:11.618
I'm sure my girls are going to go, "oh,
00:47:11.618 --> 00:47:13.720
I've got some questions.”
00:47:13.720 --> 00:47:15.155
I hope they ask those questions actually because it has to be
00:47:15.155 --> 00:47:17.491
Their faith.
00:47:17.491 --> 00:47:18.392
It can't be just bernie and i's faith.
00:47:18.392 --> 00:47:19.693
It has to become theirs.
00:47:19.693 --> 00:47:21.028
But we have to do a better job as a church of equipping a
00:47:21.028 --> 00:47:25.766
Generation with the truth because they are
00:47:25.766 --> 00:47:27.968
Leaving the faith.
00:47:27.968 --> 00:47:29.569
They are leaving the faith.
00:47:29.569 --> 00:47:30.737
- one of the songs that i love most on your "season"--
00:47:30.737 --> 00:47:35.342
And by the way, i'm here in nashville with natalie grant.
00:47:35.342 --> 00:47:37.911
If you haven't downloaded "seasons", where have you been?
00:47:37.911 --> 00:47:40.180
But it's not too late.
00:47:40.180 --> 00:47:42.215
You can do it today.
00:47:42.215 --> 00:47:43.216
It's fantastic.
00:47:43.216 --> 00:47:44.918
I mean, it's kind of like your magnum opus.
00:47:44.918 --> 00:47:47.854
I mean, it's just phenomenal.
00:47:47.854 --> 00:47:50.223
But one of the songs you chose i love,
00:47:50.223 --> 00:47:52.492
And it reminded me of a time in your life.
00:47:52.492 --> 00:47:54.995
The song is "praise you in the storm".
00:47:54.995 --> 00:47:58.131
But it reminded me of a time you walked through a very scary
00:47:58.131 --> 00:48:01.902
Health challenge that you faced.
00:48:01.902 --> 00:48:04.304
- two weeks ago, i had an ultrasound,
00:48:05.105 --> 00:48:07.474
And two of the tumors on the right side of my thyroid have
00:48:07.474 --> 00:48:12.045
Decided to not stay unconcerning.
00:48:12.045 --> 00:48:15.649
So, i am going in for surgery on october the 10th to remove
00:48:15.649 --> 00:48:21.188
The right side of my thyroid.
00:48:21.188 --> 00:48:23.490
I'm afraid.
00:48:23.490 --> 00:48:25.025
I'm human, and that fear, every time it begins to well up,
00:48:25.025 --> 00:48:29.696
I have a greater understanding right now in my life about the
00:48:29.696 --> 00:48:33.133
Scripture that says to take every thought captive.
00:48:33.133 --> 00:48:36.336
And that is actually a daily discipline for me right now.
00:48:36.336 --> 00:48:41.475
Am i living a life of faith and trust,
00:48:41.475 --> 00:48:44.878
Not just singing about the king of the world,
00:48:44.878 --> 00:48:48.115
But actually trusting the king of the world?
00:48:48.115 --> 00:48:52.919
What was that like for you?
00:48:53.520 --> 00:48:54.888
Because it affected the area that so defines who you are.
00:48:54.888 --> 00:48:58.658
- yes.
00:48:58.658 --> 00:48:59.793
So, in 2017, i was diagnosed with thyroid cancer.
00:48:59.793 --> 00:49:04.364
And obviously, cancer is a very scary word.
00:49:04.364 --> 00:49:09.102
Nobody wants to hear that word.
00:49:09.102 --> 00:49:10.637
But i've learned that if you have to have a cancer,
00:49:10.637 --> 00:49:15.042
Papillary thyroid cancer is one that they're going to get out.
00:49:15.042 --> 00:49:18.245
It's like you're not going to die from
00:49:18.245 --> 00:49:20.781
Papillary thyroid cancer.
00:49:20.781 --> 00:49:22.049
It's a 99.99% survival rate.
00:49:22.049 --> 00:49:26.153
And so, it wasn't the cancer, necessarily,
00:49:26.153 --> 00:49:30.557
That was so terrifying.
00:49:30.557 --> 00:49:33.060
It was where the cancerous tumor was.
00:49:33.060 --> 00:49:35.295
And i had a cancerous tumor on my thyroid,
00:49:35.295 --> 00:49:38.832
But it was laying on my vocal nerve.
00:49:38.832 --> 00:49:41.101
And so, i remember when the surgeon said, "hey,
00:49:41.101 --> 00:49:44.905
We're going to go in there, we're going to get the cancer
00:49:44.905 --> 00:49:46.540
Out, but your voice may be paralyzed.”
00:49:46.540 --> 00:49:51.278
My father had thyroid cancer, and his vocal cords kind of
00:49:51.278 --> 00:49:56.183
Never fully recovered from that surgery.
00:49:56.183 --> 00:49:58.652
So, i had that in my mind, but also just the thought that they
00:49:58.652 --> 00:50:02.756
Were like, "and if it's not paralyzed--”
00:50:02.756 --> 00:50:04.624
You know, it's like where you feel like you're watching a
00:50:04.624 --> 00:50:06.893
Commercial of a medication, and they're like saying it really
00:50:06.893 --> 00:50:09.062
Happy, but they're telling you all the terrible things
00:50:09.062 --> 00:50:10.697
That can happen to you.
00:50:10.697 --> 00:50:11.898
Exactly.
00:50:11.898 --> 00:50:12.966
He's like, "you know, if it's not paralyzed,
00:50:12.966 --> 00:50:14.935
You won't have the same range.
00:50:14.935 --> 00:50:16.369
You won't have the same vocal strength.
00:50:16.369 --> 00:50:17.904
Your voice will be lower.
00:50:17.904 --> 00:50:20.006
It'll probably be seven months to a year before
00:50:20.006 --> 00:50:22.843
You can sing again.”
00:50:22.843 --> 00:50:24.311
And just at some point, you're hearing news,
00:50:24.311 --> 00:50:26.513
And it just kind of becomes a white noise because you can only
00:50:26.513 --> 00:50:28.849
Take so much at one time.
00:50:28.849 --> 00:50:31.384
And you know what's incredible about this?
00:50:31.384 --> 00:50:37.023
Obviously, my voice came back.
00:50:37.023 --> 00:50:39.359
And what's interesting, though, part of the story is that when
00:50:39.359 --> 00:50:46.199
We found out about this--
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:47.467
My husband produces an artist that many of you will know
00:50:47.467 --> 00:50:50.937
Named josh groban.
00:50:50.937 --> 00:50:52.272
And when we found out about this,
00:50:52.272 --> 00:50:54.741
Josh groban's manager sits on like the
00:50:54.741 --> 00:50:58.011
Nationwide cancer board.
00:50:58.011 --> 00:51:00.080
And so, he called and said, "give me the greatest surgeon.
00:51:00.080 --> 00:51:03.517
We need the best surgeon in the world for this.
00:51:03.517 --> 00:51:06.386
Like who do we go to?
00:51:06.386 --> 00:51:08.155
Help us.
00:51:08.155 --> 00:51:09.055
Help us know where to send her?”
00:51:09.055 --> 00:51:10.824
And he said, "well, you wouldn't believe this,
00:51:10.824 --> 00:51:13.193
That the best surgeon for this is in nashville, at vanderbilt.”
00:51:13.193 --> 00:51:16.930
And it was already my doctor.
00:51:16.930 --> 00:51:19.166
- oh, my gosh.
00:51:19.166 --> 00:51:20.433
- well, then come to find out that this is a man of god.
00:51:20.433 --> 00:51:24.004
And while he did that surgery, he listened to my song,
00:51:24.004 --> 00:51:29.943
"king of the world".
00:51:29.943 --> 00:51:31.111
He blared it in the operating room.
00:51:31.111 --> 00:51:33.380
And he said, "while i was doing this surgery,
00:51:33.380 --> 00:51:36.416
I wanted to constantly be reminded of what god was asking
00:51:36.416 --> 00:51:39.553
Me to protect.”
00:51:39.553 --> 00:51:40.820
And i thought, "only the lord could even put
00:51:40.820 --> 00:51:44.724
All of that together.”
00:51:44.724 --> 00:51:46.226
But though i'm sitting here and i can say my voice came back
00:51:46.226 --> 00:51:50.263
Stronger, it actually came back with a different authority.
00:51:50.263 --> 00:51:54.467
And i think that's, you know, to me,
00:51:54.467 --> 00:51:56.670
A picture of what god does through trials.
00:51:56.670 --> 00:51:59.439
It's like all of it might not be your singing voice,
00:51:59.439 --> 00:52:02.242
But when you put your faith in him and you kind of have been
00:52:02.242 --> 00:52:06.513
Kind of tested, and you've come through on the other side,
00:52:06.513 --> 00:52:10.150
You come through stronger and with a different authority,
00:52:10.150 --> 00:52:14.688
A different understanding of who god is,
00:52:14.688 --> 00:52:16.790
A different understanding of who he is in the fire,
00:52:16.790 --> 00:52:19.326
That he is with you.
00:52:19.326 --> 00:52:20.560
But for me, that was honestly not the biggest miracle.
00:52:20.560 --> 00:52:25.165
When i was told that i may never sing again,
00:52:25.165 --> 00:52:28.201
I remember going--
00:52:28.201 --> 00:52:29.302
I spent so many times on a stage saying,
00:52:29.302 --> 00:52:31.338
"singing is not who i am.
00:52:31.338 --> 00:52:33.707
It's just what i do.”
00:52:33.707 --> 00:52:35.141
They said, "you're not going to sing again.”
00:52:35.141 --> 00:52:36.977
I was like, "i was lying.
00:52:36.977 --> 00:52:38.612
It's totally who i am.
00:52:38.612 --> 00:52:41.081
It's my identity.
00:52:41.081 --> 00:52:42.449
I don't even know who i am without it.”
00:52:42.449 --> 00:52:44.050
And god gave me the opportunity to learn, you know, like, wait,
00:52:44.050 --> 00:52:48.955
It actually is going to be okay because my outcome does not
00:52:48.955 --> 00:52:51.958
Determine his goodness.
00:52:51.958 --> 00:52:53.960
And that to me was the miracle.
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.396
My voice coming back stronger was a miracle,
00:52:56.396 --> 00:52:59.499
But that was just his kindness.
00:52:59.499 --> 00:53:01.001
He didn't have to do that.
00:53:01.001 --> 00:53:02.369
He did.
00:53:02.369 --> 00:53:03.637
And that's why for me, i feel like a different--
00:53:03.637 --> 00:53:05.872
There was a shift in me that happened that was like, "wait,
00:53:05.872 --> 00:53:09.509
I'm not just going to sing songs.
00:53:09.509 --> 00:53:10.977
This is serious business we're doing right now.
00:53:10.977 --> 00:53:15.415
And god, like, he protected my voice and
00:53:15.415 --> 00:53:18.585
Brought it back stronger.
00:53:18.585 --> 00:53:19.619
I'm going to use it to glorify him.”
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But being able to say, "even before i know what my outcome is
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Going to be, god, you're still good.
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Even if my outcome isn't what i want it to be,
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I know you're good.
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And my outcome doesn't determine that.”
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For me, that happening in my heart was the miracle.
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- i just want to say to any of you who are at home right now
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And facing something that seems uncertain,
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Something that might seem to attack your very identity.
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And we would just both want to remind you that god is in
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Control, that he's sovereign, that he loves you.
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And there's something about where your scars are,
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There lies your authority.
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It's like you come and you speak from a different place.
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And i just quickly pray for you watching us.
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Father, natalie and i just bring to you right now all of
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Those who are watching who feel as if they're in a hard place.
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Maybe they feel like in the middle of a storm and they're
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Finding it hard to praise you.
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Lord, i want to thank you for what you've done and continue to
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Do through natalie's life.
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And we pray for our viewers, lord,
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That we would begin to thank you,
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That we would begin to praise you even before we see the sun
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Begin to come, even in the midst of a storm because of who you
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Are, because you are in the storm,
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Because we are never alone, and because you are good.
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And we want to thank you for your loving kindness that goes
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Beyond our human words.
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We thank you in jesus' name.
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Amen.
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Natalie's album is called "seasons".
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It's phenomenal.
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I listen to it a lot.
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- thank you.
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- but just on behalf of all of our team here,
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On behalf of matt and laurie, i just want to, more than that,
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I want to thank you for your life, natalie grant,
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Because your life impacts all of us.
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- oh, sheila, thank you.
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It's been such a joy to be with you.
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Love you.
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- love you too.
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And we will see you next time.
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Natalie Grant: Finding Hope in Every Season | Praise

November 25, 2024 | 55:29

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