A Night of Prayer for Israel | Praise

June 24, 2025 | 59:5

Join Sheila Walsh, Greg Laurie and Robert Jeffress as they lift up Israel in prayer and discuss Israel’s role in Biblical prophecy.

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Praise | A Night of Prayer for Israel | Praise | June 24, 2025
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  • - [narrator] coming up tonight on "praise."
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  • - it's wednesday, june the 25th.
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  • As you know, the past few days
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  • We have seen such a tumultuous situation in the middle east
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  • With the war between iran and israel.
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  • At the moment, as we are on the air,
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  • It seems there is a provisional peace, a ceasefire in place.
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  • Tonight, would you join us for a night of prayer
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  • As we pray that that peace will endure?
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  • Welcome to this special edition of "praise."
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  • Tonight, we are dedicating this hour to prayer,
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  • To pray for those in israel,
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  • To pray for everyone in the middle east,
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  • To pray for our military, for our men and women,
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  • That they would be protected by god's right hand,
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  • But also to pray for you.
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  • These are not days to live in fear.
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  • When we understand
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  • That no matter what is going on in the world,
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  • Nothing is a surprise to the lord.
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  • God is still on the throne.
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  • God is in control.
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  • In fact, i was reading this, this morning,
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  • And i wanted to read it to you.
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  • It's one of my favorite psalms.
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  • Psalm 121 says this:
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  • "i look up to the mountains,
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  • Does my help come from there?
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  • My help comes from the lord who made heaven and earth!
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  • He will not let you stumble.
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  • The one who watches over you will not slumber.
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  • Indeed, he who watches over israel,
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  • Neither slumbers nor sleeps.
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  • The lord himself watches over you!
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  • The lord stands beside you as your protective shade.
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  • The sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon at night.
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  • The lord keeps you from all harm
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  • And watches over your life.
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  • The lord keeps watch over you as you come and go,
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  • Both now and forever."
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  • These are days...
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  • Remember in 1 peter where it says,
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  • "always be ready to give an explanation
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  • For the hope that is within you"?
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  • These are days to be, those who are living
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  • With very clear, unfiltered view of hope,
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  • So that people will want to know
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  • When everything else appears to be falling apart,
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  • You don't seem that way.
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  • So, exciting days to be alive.
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  • Tonight i'm going to be joined
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  • By pastors in the studio and also by zoom
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  • And also by some of our friends in israel,
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  • To give us an up-to-date,
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  • On-the-ground idea of what's going on.
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  • In fact, the first guest that i'm gonna talk to
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  • Is somebody that i met on my very first time in israel,
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  • And i have this beautiful picture of
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  • The two of us sitting on,
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  • The mountain where jesus gave the beatitudes.
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  • He was playing his guitar and we were worshiping together.
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  • Now he's in uniform and has been for over 600 days.
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  • His name chaim malespin.
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  • And i just wanna say welcome my friend.
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  • It is so good to see you.
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  • How are you doing?
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  • - well, like my uniform, i'm worn.
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  • All of us soldiers are worn, 626 days,
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  • But we hold onto that psalm you just read psalms 121,
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  • He does watch over us in every aspect of this battle,
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  • Which isn't just now with iran,
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  • But even against hezbollah, and even hamas,
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  • And i'm still okay and my injuries are.
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  • - ... for minor.
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  • And, but yes, god's watching over us.
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  • I have had to bury friends.
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  • But god is on the throne and he is watching over his land.
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  • - chaim, let me ask you, because you, as you say,
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  • You've been in this for so long, day after day,
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  • You are a man in charge of other men.
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  • What do you do when you get discouraged?
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  • - yeah, it's a very good question.
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  • I have a little secret weapon.
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  • I have inside my little, the zipper here of my uniform,
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  • I will put verses there just like the one-
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  • - wow. - ... and that you've read.
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  • And i'll read those if i have a minute out there on a tank
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  • And actually i do even these little videos
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  • From inside gaza, inside lebanon, my guys are in syria,
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  • They wanted to deploy us to iran
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  • If america hadn't stepped in. - wow.
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  • - to be able to go by foot
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  • And literally go into...
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  • So these were some things that were being considered.
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  • But i'll read those
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  • And i'll read them on camera at aliyah return center,
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  • It's our charity.
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  • And people watch these videos
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  • And i'm able to encourage my men and many others
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  • Around the world.
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  • - it was wonderful for me
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  • To learn a little bit more about aliyah return center.
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  • Tell people what you do through this work, it's phenomenal.
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  • - right, you know, it's not just the psalms 23 says,
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  • "your rod and your staff," in this case would be a glock 19
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  • And a m4 flattop.
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  • But the rod and the staff, they comfort me.
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  • We do have to be good shepherds.
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  • We do have to defend the flocks of the house of israel.
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  • We can't just feed them.
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  • We have to rescue them from the mouth of the wolf.
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  • And if they're pulled into the wolf's layer,
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  • In this case a hamas tunnel,
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  • We have to go in and rescue them.
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  • But yes, you're right.
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  • I'm also the chairman, executive director of a charity,
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  • A ministry called aliyah return center.
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  • And essentially we help arabic and hebrew-speaking people,
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  • The needy people, food, clothing, shelter.
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  • But especially we help aliyah
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  • Is those who have returned home,
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  • Jewish people who've made their immigration,
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  • Their aliyah fulfilling 700 scriptures, you know, 700 club.
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  • I think that god has a 700 club of scriptures,
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  • Which talk about he's gathering his jewish people back home.
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  • And so we give them that hebrew training,
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  • That the hebrew school job training.
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  • And now of course we've kicked into action
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  • To help these families who have their house bombed out.
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  • So we're able to give them all kinds of essentials
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  • That they need right now.
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  • And people around the world are helping us
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  • With this campaign.
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  • And, but i walked through the rubble in ramat gan,
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  • Walked through bat yam, the rubble of the blown up houses.
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  • And that's from one- - wow.
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  • - ... ballistic missile.
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  • And that, and you see them in the sky.
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  • I see them in the sky.
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  • I don't always have a bomb shelter being in the army.
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  • Right now, at this current moment,
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  • I'm near a bomb shelter.
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  • But when i'm out in the field, i don't have a bomb shelter.
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  • And so you see these missiles
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  • And imagine if it wasn't the 99, 98% that were taken out,
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  • What if it was 80%?
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  • What if it was 70%?
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  • You know, this country could be leveled, the buildings.
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  • And, but i remember in tel aviv downtown,
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  • I saw some massive destruction
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  • And i talked to the security guard there
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  • And i said, "how many people died in this one?"
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  • 'cause it's total of what, 24 people i believe to-date.
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  • I said, "how many people died in this?"
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  • I'm talking buildings, just all the windows blown out
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  • And rubble everywhere.
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  • And he said, "not one."
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  • - wow. - i was like, "is that right?"
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  • - wow. - and he said, "every time
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  • It's like either we're in a bomb shelter and that was okay,
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  • Or we're in..."
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  • Just, they happened to empty out that floor of the hospital
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  • Or they just happen...
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  • It's so many coincidences that it's not a coincidence.
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  • - wow. - god is doing
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  • What you just quoted in psalms 1:21.
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  • - you know, here at tbn and all of us here in the states,
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  • We love you and we pray continually for israel.
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  • Chaim, tell us how can we pray for you in these days?
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  • - yeah, well, i would say definitely, you know,
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  • I was reading also just now in isaiah 5:20
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  • And you have this verse, you know,
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  • It's a warning, it's a warning.
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  • "woe to those who call evil, good, good evil,
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  • Who put darkness for light and light for darkness,
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  • Put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
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  • I thought of that and i said, "man, you know, yeshua said,
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  • 'do not be deceived.
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  • Do not be deceived.'"
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  • And i see attacks happening
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  • That aren't just ballistic missiles.
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  • That's what i'm seeing.
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  • And your friends, my friends are people
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  • Who understand the promises of god,
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  • Who can open up romans chapter 11 and who can read,
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  • "god has a plan for israel."
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  • No matter what the enemy wants to do,
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  • No matter what the enemy wants to deceive,
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  • We will not be deceived.
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  • But i see that there is a very concerted effort in this war
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  • To try to mess with and deceive even the young people,
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  • Even through tiktok and instagram.
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  • And so what i'd say is if you could really pray
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  • Not only for victory that we've...
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  • - find the rest of the 50 hostages.
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  • 30 of them have already been deceased.
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  • 30 are no longer living for, to what our understanding,
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  • And i'm an eod, explosive ordinance disposal.
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  • I'm a special operations engineering unit.
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  • So i'm in the tunnels all the time.
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  • - [reporter] wow. - and i'm going
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  • Actually in a few hours back.
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  • But my prayer's not just that we find the hostages,
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  • Not just that we have victory,
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  • But for a change of heart.
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  • That's number one.
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  • Change, victory,
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  • Change of heart of our enemies.
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  • Because military, you gotta be a good shepherd.
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  • You've gotta defend the flock,
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  • But they need to have a change of heart
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  • And say, "wait a minute, the way we're going is not good."
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  • And what i'm saying is number three,
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  • The battle over those who, yeah,
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  • The word zionist, that's someone who's standing
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  • On the word of god for israel to be here
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  • And from the jordan river to the mediterranean sea.
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  • - yes.
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  • - that the jewish people get to live here.
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  • Not that we all are gone,
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  • Dead or destroyed in a nuclear blast.
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  • So my prayer is for that number three,
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  • That those zionists,
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  • Those christian zionists,
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  • Those who stand for the word of god and the covenants,
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  • Yes, god has great blessings over every believer,
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  • But he also has a plan for this land, this people.
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  • - [reporter] yes. - and the destiny,
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  • Which is all gonna come together
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  • In a beautiful crescendo
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  • Of prophecy being fulfilled.
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  • Now, i just wanna say this is,
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  • I think that our ambassador academy.
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  • You know, the school we have that trains people
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  • Here in the land and online,
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  • We're trying to launch an online thing,
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  • That it's not a nice to have.
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  • It's like a must.
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  • - [reporter] hmm.
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  • - i mean, if people don't get god's heart for israel,
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  • They'll be, they'll be, they'll go through,
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  • They'll be almost,
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  • They could have, there's a chance
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  • That even the very elect could be deceived.
  • 00:10:14.470 --> 00:10:17.339
  • - [reporter] mm, mm. - you know?
  • 00:10:17.339 --> 00:10:18.507
  • So that's kind of what,
  • 00:10:18.507 --> 00:10:19.742
  • And yeshua, jesus said, yeshua said,
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  • Do not be deceived in matthew, what was it, matthew 24?
  • 00:10:21.343 --> 00:10:25.081
  • So that's my, those are my main prayer requests.
  • 00:10:25.081 --> 00:10:27.717
  • And really, as i go back into gaza right now,
  • 00:10:27.717 --> 00:10:30.553
  • Just that all of my team
  • 00:10:30.553 --> 00:10:32.788
  • And all of the, all the soldiers that are a bit tired,
  • 00:10:32.788 --> 00:10:35.024
  • A bit worn. - yeah.
  • 00:10:35.024 --> 00:10:36.292
  • - i would say, you know,
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  • What i would say is this declaration almost,
  • 00:10:37.760 --> 00:10:41.163
  • That lion rising, you know,
  • 00:10:41.163 --> 00:10:43.833
  • Numbers chapter 23, verse 24 and 25.
  • 00:10:43.833 --> 00:10:47.570
  • 23, 24, 25, easy to remember.
  • 00:10:47.570 --> 00:10:49.839
  • And lion rising, i'm telling you,
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  • The lion of judah. - amen.
  • 00:10:51.774 --> 00:10:53.175
  • - is rising. - amen.
  • 00:10:53.175 --> 00:10:54.477
  • - the lion of judah is roaring.
  • 00:10:54.477 --> 00:10:55.745
  • And that's causing so many people
  • 00:10:55.745 --> 00:10:57.413
  • To feel the sense of spirituality.
  • 00:10:57.413 --> 00:11:00.783
  • This isn't just, you know, it doesn't make,
  • 00:11:00.783 --> 00:11:03.652
  • Let me just say this, it doesn't make sense.
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  • If you have haman in persia, in iran.
  • 00:11:06.989 --> 00:11:09.892
  • Haman, now haman could have said, you know,
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  • I don't like mordecai.
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  • I'm used to people bowing down to me.
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  • You know the story of esther, the book of esther?
  • 00:11:15.064 --> 00:11:17.433
  • And i'm used to people bowing down to me.
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  • Mordecai didn't bow down to me.
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  • I'm gonna get him.
  • 00:11:21.036 --> 00:11:22.171
  • You know, that would make sense.
  • 00:11:22.171 --> 00:11:23.172
  • He's this big shot,
  • 00:11:23.172 --> 00:11:24.173
  • And he wants people to bow him.
  • 00:11:24.173 --> 00:11:25.841
  • But what doesn't make sense is what he did.
  • 00:11:25.841 --> 00:11:27.977
  • He cast lots into this.
  • 00:11:27.977 --> 00:11:30.613
  • You know, he looked into the spiritual realm.
  • 00:11:30.613 --> 00:11:32.481
  • He sought to destroy every jewish person
  • 00:11:32.481 --> 00:11:35.284
  • And persian empire is very big.
  • 00:11:35.284 --> 00:11:37.686
  • That's a lot of work.
  • 00:11:37.686 --> 00:11:39.455
  • What did a jewish person
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  • In the african part of the persian empire,
  • 00:11:41.056 --> 00:11:42.925
  • In the european part of it,
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  • In all of, what did they do to you, haman?
  • 00:11:44.226 --> 00:11:46.962
  • The same marching orders you see with hitler,
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  • With pharaoh, with herod,
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  • With this diabolical death to america,
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  • Death to israel in iran that we see.
  • 00:11:54.203 --> 00:11:56.272
  • But that doesn't have to be their destiny.
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  • They can choose you this day.
  • 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.075
  • They can choose,
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  • Not haman, but cyrus.
  • 00:12:02.244 --> 00:12:03.512
  • - yeah, yeah. - cyrus also was persian.
  • 00:12:03.512 --> 00:12:05.247
  • So that's, that's my belief is they can choose
  • 00:12:05.247 --> 00:12:08.250
  • And they will choose. - okay, chaim.
  • 00:12:08.250 --> 00:12:09.418
  • We love you.
  • 00:12:09.418 --> 00:12:11.020
  • We will continue to pray for you,
  • 00:12:11.020 --> 00:12:12.254
  • To pray for god's protection over you.
  • 00:12:12.254 --> 00:12:14.490
  • And thank you so much for joining us, my friend.
  • 00:12:14.490 --> 00:12:17.226
  • We love you.
  • 00:12:17.226 --> 00:12:18.627
  • - it's always good to see you.
  • 00:12:19.261 --> 00:12:20.696
  • Say hi to barry for me.
  • 00:12:20.696 --> 00:12:21.764
  • - i will. - i love that guy.
  • 00:12:21.764 --> 00:12:22.832
  • - i will.
  • 00:12:22.832 --> 00:12:24.033
  • - and so good seeing you as well.
  • 00:12:24.033 --> 00:12:25.701
  • - thank you, chaim.
  • 00:12:25.701 --> 00:12:27.303
  • So let me just ask those of you who are at home right now,
  • 00:12:27.303 --> 00:12:29.271
  • You heard chaim saying, please pray.
  • 00:12:29.271 --> 00:12:31.607
  • So let's just pause right here and right now.
  • 00:12:31.607 --> 00:12:34.276
  • And i'm joined actually
  • 00:12:34.276 --> 00:12:35.878
  • By one of, one of my favorite people on the planet.
  • 00:12:35.878 --> 00:12:39.181
  • Barry and i adore greg, pastor greg lorrie.
  • 00:12:39.181 --> 00:12:42.484
  • I'm so glad you're here.
  • 00:12:42.484 --> 00:12:44.353
  • Your wisdom throughout the years is phenomenal.
  • 00:12:45.287 --> 00:12:48.557
  • But listening to our brother there
  • 00:12:48.557 --> 00:12:50.292
  • And what he shared, greg,
  • 00:12:50.292 --> 00:12:51.861
  • I would love if you would pray for the things that.
  • 00:12:51.861 --> 00:12:53.963
  • - yes. - that chaim
  • 00:12:53.963 --> 00:12:55.197
  • Asked us to pray for.
  • 00:12:55.197 --> 00:12:56.432
  • - well, first i have to determine
  • 00:12:56.432 --> 00:12:58.033
  • If i can say his name properly.
  • 00:12:58.033 --> 00:12:59.635
  • (reporter laughs) chaim?
  • 00:12:59.635 --> 00:13:01.103
  • - [reporter] chaim.
  • 00:13:01.103 --> 00:13:02.371
  • - little chaim, all right.
  • 00:13:02.371 --> 00:13:04.540
  • Let's pray.
  • 00:13:04.540 --> 00:13:05.474
  • Father, we thank you for chaim,
  • 00:13:05.474 --> 00:13:07.610
  • And we thank you, lord,
  • 00:13:08.110 --> 00:13:09.645
  • That he is a bright light in a very difficult situation.
  • 00:13:09.645 --> 00:13:12.514
  • Literally defending lives,
  • 00:13:12.514 --> 00:13:14.984
  • Yet at the same time,
  • 00:13:14.984 --> 00:13:16.285
  • Wanting to save them and point them to yeshua.
  • 00:13:16.285 --> 00:13:20.122
  • - yeah. - and we pray
  • 00:13:20.122 --> 00:13:21.457
  • For your protection over him.
  • 00:13:21.457 --> 00:13:22.992
  • We pray that you will open doors of opportunity for him.
  • 00:13:22.992 --> 00:13:26.395
  • We pray that you'll use him for your glory.
  • 00:13:26.395 --> 00:13:29.298
  • We pray for the other troops.
  • 00:13:29.298 --> 00:13:31.000
  • - serving with them as well that you would watch over them.
  • 00:13:32.167 --> 00:13:33.636
  • Yes, israel has the iron dome and that's great.
  • 00:13:33.636 --> 00:13:37.006
  • But lord, we're praying for a supernatural hedge
  • 00:13:37.006 --> 00:13:40.075
  • Of protection over them as well from your angels.
  • 00:13:40.075 --> 00:13:43.279
  • So, we commit 'em to you and we thank you for him.
  • 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:47.383
  • In jesus' name we pray. amen.
  • 00:13:47.383 --> 00:13:50.519
  • - it's just listening to haim
  • 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:52.454
  • And watching him there. - yeah.
  • 00:13:52.454 --> 00:13:53.856
  • - and knowing, i can't imagine when that's like,
  • 00:13:53.856 --> 00:13:56.058
  • 600 and something days- - yep.
  • 00:13:56.058 --> 00:13:57.660
  • - of constantly being there. - wow.
  • 00:13:57.660 --> 00:13:59.995
  • - we often talk about in our culture
  • 00:13:59.995 --> 00:14:02.464
  • Of where were you when such and such
  • 00:14:02.464 --> 00:14:04.366
  • A thing happened? - yes.
  • 00:14:04.366 --> 00:14:05.801
  • - i wanted to ask you, where were you when you heard
  • 00:14:05.801 --> 00:14:08.237
  • What had happened on saturday night?
  • 00:14:08.237 --> 00:14:10.940
  • When you know that president trump had responded?
  • 00:14:10.940 --> 00:14:12.875
  • - yeah, i was actually watching a television program
  • 00:14:12.875 --> 00:14:16.078
  • And i get a text, i get a call from matt crouch.
  • 00:14:16.078 --> 00:14:19.782
  • And then, i called him back and he says,
  • 00:14:19.782 --> 00:14:23.652
  • "are you watching the news right now?"
  • 00:14:23.652 --> 00:14:25.187
  • I said, "no, i'm watching some show
  • 00:14:25.187 --> 00:14:27.156
  • With conan o'brien of all things."
  • 00:14:27.156 --> 00:14:29.391
  • And he says, "turn on the news."
  • 00:14:29.391 --> 00:14:30.893
  • I turn on the news.
  • 00:14:30.893 --> 00:14:32.194
  • I did believe that the president
  • 00:14:32.194 --> 00:14:35.264
  • Was going to do this all along, but i just didn't know when.
  • 00:14:35.264 --> 00:14:38.801
  • So, it wasn't surprising to me.
  • 00:14:38.801 --> 00:14:41.136
  • But it was an amazing operation.
  • 00:14:41.136 --> 00:14:42.972
  • They've been planning for some time as we all know now.
  • 00:14:42.972 --> 00:14:46.141
  • Completely successful.
  • 00:14:46.141 --> 00:14:48.110
  • We're thankful that, you know,
  • 00:14:48.110 --> 00:14:49.311
  • 'cause things could have gone wrong.
  • 00:14:49.311 --> 00:14:50.646
  • - oh yeah. - we've seen things
  • 00:14:50.646 --> 00:14:51.580
  • Go wrong in military operations.
  • 00:14:51.580 --> 00:14:53.983
  • We can't, you know, things break down.
  • 00:14:53.983 --> 00:14:56.251
  • Other unexpected things happen.
  • 00:14:56.251 --> 00:14:57.987
  • But this worked so well.
  • 00:14:57.987 --> 00:14:59.455
  • And what struck me was when the president
  • 00:14:59.455 --> 00:15:01.890
  • Finally spoke to us and he thanked the military.
  • 00:15:01.890 --> 00:15:04.660
  • He thanked the israelis who were cooperating.
  • 00:15:04.660 --> 00:15:07.262
  • But then, and he thanked god, of course.
  • 00:15:07.262 --> 00:15:09.298
  • But then he said, "we love you god."
  • 00:15:09.298 --> 00:15:10.699
  • - i know. i know. - and i was struck by that.
  • 00:15:10.699 --> 00:15:13.435
  • And he sort of choked up.
  • 00:15:13.435 --> 00:15:15.070
  • And you know, i've had the privilege
  • 00:15:15.070 --> 00:15:16.739
  • To be with the president in smaller settings.
  • 00:15:16.739 --> 00:15:19.408
  • And i think god is really at work in his heart.
  • 00:15:19.408 --> 00:15:22.678
  • And i've seen that he welcomes prayer.
  • 00:15:22.678 --> 00:15:25.881
  • We've prayed for him many times in the oval office.
  • 00:15:25.881 --> 00:15:28.550
  • Now, i don't think we can even begin to imagine, sheila,
  • 00:15:28.550 --> 00:15:31.453
  • What it's like to sit behind
  • 00:15:31.453 --> 00:15:32.988
  • That old resolute desk in the oval office
  • 00:15:32.988 --> 00:15:35.991
  • With really the weight of the world on your shoulders.
  • 00:15:35.991 --> 00:15:38.360
  • And i think he recognizes he needs god's help.
  • 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.630
  • And he's very quick to acknowledge that
  • 00:15:41.630 --> 00:15:43.599
  • God spared his life
  • 00:15:43.599 --> 00:15:44.933
  • From an assassin's bullet. - absolutely.
  • 00:15:44.933 --> 00:15:46.902
  • - and so, and you know, these other,
  • 00:15:46.902 --> 00:15:49.304
  • And he's surrounded with people of faith.
  • 00:15:49.304 --> 00:15:51.640
  • Kathy and i have gotten to know
  • 00:15:51.640 --> 00:15:52.908
  • Marco and jeanette rubio quite well.
  • 00:15:52.908 --> 00:15:55.010
  • We met them 10 years ago at a couple's conference.
  • 00:15:55.010 --> 00:15:58.547
  • And i believe marco
  • 00:15:58.547 --> 00:15:59.848
  • Is so just perfect for this job right now,
  • 00:15:59.848 --> 00:16:02.885
  • As is the secretary of defense,
  • 00:16:02.885 --> 00:16:05.354
  • And our good friend mike huckabee
  • 00:16:05.354 --> 00:16:07.589
  • Serving over there as our ambassador to israel.
  • 00:16:07.589 --> 00:16:10.459
  • So many great people in the right positions.
  • 00:16:10.459 --> 00:16:13.695
  • And as haim was saying, you know,
  • 00:16:13.695 --> 00:16:15.964
  • How god raised up queen esther for such a time as this.
  • 00:16:15.964 --> 00:16:19.735
  • I believe the lord has done the same thing in our government
  • 00:16:19.735 --> 00:16:23.038
  • And in other strategic places to help with godly counsel
  • 00:16:23.038 --> 00:16:28.377
  • As well as counsel on military affairs
  • 00:16:29.211 --> 00:16:31.080
  • And other things that are involved in this.
  • 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.916
  • - i find myself, when i watch the news
  • 00:16:33.916 --> 00:16:35.684
  • And try to keep abreast of everything that's happened,
  • 00:16:35.684 --> 00:16:38.353
  • I feel like i almost want to take a step back
  • 00:16:38.353 --> 00:16:40.355
  • To the bigger picture. - yeah. yeah.
  • 00:16:40.355 --> 00:16:41.990
  • - of what god is doing-
  • 00:16:41.990 --> 00:16:43.559
  • - yes. - in the world.
  • 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:44.993
  • Rather than just one nation against another nation
  • 00:16:44.993 --> 00:16:46.695
  • Or one- - that's right.
  • 00:16:46.695 --> 00:16:47.596
  • - political party against
  • 00:16:47.596 --> 00:16:48.597
  • Another political party. - right.
  • 00:16:48.597 --> 00:16:49.798
  • - the whole point of why jesus came.
  • 00:16:49.798 --> 00:16:51.700
  • What do you sense in your spirit-
  • 00:16:51.700 --> 00:16:53.202
  • - yes. - that god is doing?
  • 00:16:53.202 --> 00:16:54.436
  • - well, i think of the story of jonah.
  • 00:16:54.436 --> 00:16:57.106
  • You know, imagine god going to an israeli like haim,
  • 00:16:57.106 --> 00:17:01.310
  • And saying, "go to iran and preach the gospel."
  • 00:17:01.310 --> 00:17:04.780
  • - yeah. - that's what it
  • 00:17:04.780 --> 00:17:05.714
  • Would've been like to be jonah.
  • 00:17:05.714 --> 00:17:07.349
  • - yeah. - going and preaching
  • 00:17:07.349 --> 00:17:09.084
  • To the people of nineveh.
  • 00:17:09.084 --> 00:17:10.652
  • They were the enemies of israel.
  • 00:17:10.652 --> 00:17:12.287
  • They were known for their cruelty.
  • 00:17:12.287 --> 00:17:14.857
  • And yet jonah, he drug his feet at first.
  • 00:17:14.857 --> 00:17:18.193
  • Basically to sum up the book of jonah,
  • 00:17:18.193 --> 00:17:20.028
  • God said, "go." jonah said, "no."
  • 00:17:20.028 --> 00:17:22.698
  • God said, "oh?"
  • 00:17:22.698 --> 00:17:24.066
  • (sheila laughs)
  • 00:17:24.066 --> 00:17:25.234
  • God will always have the last word.
  • 00:17:25.234 --> 00:17:26.535
  • You might say jonah was the original
  • 00:17:26.535 --> 00:17:28.470
  • Chicken of the sea, right?
  • 00:17:28.470 --> 00:17:30.105
  • He didn't wanna do it.
  • 00:17:30.105 --> 00:17:31.640
  • But he finally came around after some friendly persuasion
  • 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.443
  • From the lord that happened to involve
  • 00:17:34.443 --> 00:17:36.478
  • A great fish or a whale.
  • 00:17:36.478 --> 00:17:38.247
  • But when he finally did obey, and really the story of jonah
  • 00:17:38.247 --> 00:17:40.549
  • Is not about a fish or a whale.
  • 00:17:40.549 --> 00:17:42.618
  • Only a few verses deal with that.
  • 00:17:42.618 --> 00:17:44.820
  • People sort of fixate on that aspect of the story.
  • 00:17:44.820 --> 00:17:47.122
  • The story of jonah is a man who didn't wanna do something,
  • 00:17:47.122 --> 00:17:51.326
  • Who finally did it,
  • 00:17:51.326 --> 00:17:52.594
  • And the result was a spiritual awakening
  • 00:17:52.594 --> 00:17:55.063
  • And a nation was saved.
  • 00:17:55.063 --> 00:17:56.632
  • And we've heard of amazing things happening in iran.
  • 00:17:56.632 --> 00:18:00.836
  • That god is at work despite the iron fist hold on the nation
  • 00:18:00.836 --> 00:18:06.108
  • That the mullah seem to have.
  • 00:18:06.742 --> 00:18:08.343
  • God is changing lives.
  • 00:18:08.343 --> 00:18:09.878
  • People are coming to faith in jesus christ.
  • 00:18:09.878 --> 00:18:12.414
  • And i think people need to know, when we talk about iran,
  • 00:18:12.414 --> 00:18:15.551
  • We're not talking about the people of iran.
  • 00:18:15.551 --> 00:18:18.387
  • - no. - the persian people.
  • 00:18:18.387 --> 00:18:19.855
  • The wonderful people.
  • 00:18:19.855 --> 00:18:21.723
  • And we've mentioned how they play key roles
  • 00:18:21.723 --> 00:18:24.560
  • In scripture throughout our history.
  • 00:18:24.560 --> 00:18:27.129
  • And god is at work in their hearts as well.
  • 00:18:27.129 --> 00:18:30.032
  • - and so we just prayed
  • 00:18:30.532 --> 00:18:31.967
  • That they do have a spiritual awakening in persia,
  • 00:18:31.967 --> 00:18:34.770
  • It was called persia until 1935, in iran,
  • 00:18:35.637 --> 00:18:38.340
  • And that many come to christ.
  • 00:18:38.340 --> 00:18:40.075
  • And so this is the thing we wanna remember as christians,
  • 00:18:40.075 --> 00:18:43.345
  • Is we want to love our enemies.
  • 00:18:43.345 --> 00:18:46.181
  • Now we have to defend ourselves, and there's a place
  • 00:18:46.181 --> 00:18:48.750
  • For national borders. - sure.
  • 00:18:48.750 --> 00:18:50.219
  • - there's a place for self-defense.
  • 00:18:50.219 --> 00:18:52.287
  • There's a place for us defending the innocent.
  • 00:18:52.287 --> 00:18:55.457
  • And certainly when a nation says,
  • 00:18:55.457 --> 00:18:57.192
  • "we want to enrich uranium to develop a nuclear weapon
  • 00:18:57.192 --> 00:19:01.296
  • To destroy israel and wipe them off the face of the earth,
  • 00:19:01.296 --> 00:19:04.533
  • And wipe off america as well,"
  • 00:19:04.533 --> 00:19:06.268
  • We have to take that seriously and we have.
  • 00:19:06.268 --> 00:19:08.770
  • But having said that, we wanna also look for opportunities
  • 00:19:08.770 --> 00:19:13.308
  • To point people to christ
  • 00:19:13.308 --> 00:19:15.177
  • And get the gospel in there as well.
  • 00:19:15.177 --> 00:19:17.412
  • - 'cause i think these are days not to be cowering in fear.
  • 00:19:17.412 --> 00:19:21.016
  • - no. - but days to step up.
  • 00:19:21.016 --> 00:19:23.252
  • I wonder if you'd address that, the number of believers
  • 00:19:24.386 --> 00:19:26.555
  • Who are just like, "oh gosh, what's gonna happen?
  • 00:19:26.555 --> 00:19:28.290
  • The world is falling apart." - yes.
  • 00:19:28.290 --> 00:19:29.891
  • - how do we live in these days?
  • 00:19:29.891 --> 00:19:31.927
  • - yeah, well jesus said,
  • 00:19:31.927 --> 00:19:33.195
  • "when you see these things begin to happen,
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  • Freak out because you're all going to die."
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  • (sheila laughing) no, he didn't say that,
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  • Did he? - no.
  • 00:19:38.367 --> 00:19:39.801
  • - he said, "when you see these things begin to happen,
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  • Look up, for your redemption draws near."
  • 00:19:41.570 --> 00:19:44.306
  • Jesus said in john 14, "let not your heart be troubled,
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  • Neither let it be afraid.
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  • Believe in god. you believe in god, believe also in me.
  • 00:19:49.678 --> 00:19:52.547
  • In my father's house are many mansions,
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  • If it were not so, i would've told you.
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  • I will come again and receive you unto myself,
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  • That where i am, you may be also."
  • 00:20:00.022 --> 00:20:02.291
  • So he actually addresses this.
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  • "i'm coming again," he's saying.
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  • We don't know when he'll come again,
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  • But his coming is close.
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  • It can happen at any moment, that's in god's hands.
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  • No one knows the day or the hour, so we want to be ready.
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  • But in the interim, as we're waiting, he does say,
  • 00:20:16.238 --> 00:20:19.441
  • "let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."
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  • And in fact, i think this is a moment
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  • Where the christian can step into this situation
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  • And talk to people around us who are afraid.
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  • Because you read about armageddon is coming,
  • 00:20:30.052 --> 00:20:32.821
  • World war iii is coming,
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  • All of these things are gonna happen.
  • 00:20:35.223 --> 00:20:37.292
  • Well look, we don't know exactly what is coming,
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  • Except we know jesus is coming,
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  • And we know that he can bring into the human heart a peace
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  • That passes all human understanding.
  • 00:20:45.100 --> 00:20:47.803
  • So i think this is a moment for us, as believers,
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  • To step into the gap and share the gospel with people.
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  • And shameless plug for something we're doing, sheila.
  • 00:20:54.042 --> 00:20:56.845
  • - tell us about harvest.
  • 00:20:56.845 --> 00:20:58.313
  • - yes, we're going to angel stadium on july 19th,
  • 00:20:58.313 --> 00:21:01.316
  • And we've been proclaiming the gospel in this stadium
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  • For 35 years now. - wow.
  • 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.054
  • - and we're gonna do it again, and it will be live on,
  • 00:21:06.054 --> 00:21:08.690
  • It will be on tv eventually, and it'll be live,
  • 00:21:08.690 --> 00:21:12.394
  • You can watch it on our website, harvest.org.
  • 00:21:12.394 --> 00:21:14.996
  • But we basically proclaim the gospel
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  • And we tell people how to come to christ.
  • 00:21:18.567 --> 00:21:21.002
  • And over the years, we have seen well over 600,000 people
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  • Walk forward on the fields there at the stadium
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  • And make professions of faith.
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  • And i just feel like this is a moment for us as christians
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  • To focus on two things.
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  • Number one, pray. number two, preach.
  • 00:21:35.484 --> 00:21:38.520
  • - yes. - these are what,
  • 00:21:38.520 --> 00:21:39.855
  • We do these things better than anybody else.
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  • And so we should lean into our strengths.
  • 00:21:42.691 --> 00:21:46.895
  • And so we need to pray,
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  • And that's what this program is about,
  • 00:21:48.663 --> 00:21:50.399
  • And we wanna remember to pray.
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  • But then we wanna remember to preach the gospel.
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  • I think of these as two secret weapons
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  • That the church doesn't employ enough.
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  • - absolutely, in fact, i was reading this passage
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  • This morning in hebrews, hebrews chapter 12.
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  • - yeah, yeah. - i love this.
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  • Because i went through a little thing last year
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  • Where i thought i'd broken my neck.
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  • It looked for a little bit like life was gonna change.
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  • And i found myself asking the lord,
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  • When i'm in this big mri thing,
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  • "okay, i did not see this coming.
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  • You walked through so many things
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  • That were earth shattering, how did you do it?"
  • 00:22:22.931 --> 00:22:25.734
  • - yes. - and then i come to this,
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  • "we keep our eyes on jesus,
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  • The champion who initiated and perfects our faith.
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  • Because of the joy awaiting him,
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  • He endured the cross, disregarding the shame.
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  • And now he's seated in the place of honor."
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  • It's like, keep your eyes on jesus,
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  • Who both began and finished this race that we are in.
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  • Study how he did it.
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  • I think these are exciting days to be alive.
  • 00:22:47.422 --> 00:22:49.624
  • - i think they are.
  • 00:22:49.624 --> 00:22:51.193
  • We're living in a time where we see spiritual leaders fall,
  • 00:22:51.193 --> 00:22:56.465
  • And fail, and we say,
  • 00:22:56.965 --> 00:22:58.967
  • "that's it, i'm not gonna be a christian anymore."
  • 00:22:58.967 --> 00:23:01.636
  • And i remember the words of jesus to peter
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  • When he was having a discussion with the lord
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  • About john who was gonna live longer,
  • 00:23:06.975 --> 00:23:09.478
  • And he was gonna die a death sooner than john.
  • 00:23:09.478 --> 00:23:12.414
  • And so he said, "what about this man?"
  • 00:23:12.414 --> 00:23:14.282
  • Jesus said, "what is that to you? follow me."
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  • Here's how i see it. - wow. yeah.
  • 00:23:17.219 --> 00:23:20.355
  • - jesus has never failed me, sheila.
  • 00:23:20.355 --> 00:23:22.390
  • - [sheila] me neither.
  • 00:23:22.390 --> 00:23:23.592
  • - he's never been a hypocrite to me.
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  • Over 50 years ago, i signed up to follow him.
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  • He has kept his promises to me, he's done.
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  • - everything he said he would do for me.
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  • And let's not forget that jesus talked about
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  • An enemy sowing tares among the wheat.
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  • So sometimes we see it's hypocrisy
  • 00:23:38.139 --> 00:23:40.609
  • When in reality it's possible that we can be in church
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  • Sitting next to people that appear to be believers,
  • 00:23:43.411 --> 00:23:46.414
  • That are not believers.
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  • They sing the same songs,
  • 00:23:47.315 --> 00:23:49.484
  • They given the same offering,
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  • They amen at the right moment in the sermon.
  • 00:23:52.187 --> 00:23:54.823
  • But some are real believers and some are not.
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  • Time will reveal that.
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  • Our job is not to figure out who the tares are.
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  • Our job is to make sure we're not a tare.
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  • Make sure we're not a fake believer.
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  • Make sure we're following the lord.
  • 00:24:05.100 --> 00:24:07.002
  • You're never gonna find a hypocrite free church.
  • 00:24:07.002 --> 00:24:10.672
  • And if you do, don't join it 'cause you'll spoil it.
  • 00:24:10.672 --> 00:24:13.542
  • - you'll ruin the whole thing. - yeah.
  • 00:24:13.542 --> 00:24:14.876
  • So i'm not excusing hypocrisy.
  • 00:24:14.876 --> 00:24:17.445
  • But what i'm saying is people are gonna let us down,
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  • But we need to pray for them
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  • That they would come back to christ,
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  • Or in some cases, come to christ for the first time,
  • 00:24:24.553 --> 00:24:27.155
  • But focus on what god's called us to do.
  • 00:24:27.155 --> 00:24:29.624
  • And you mentioned running that race for the joy.
  • 00:24:29.624 --> 00:24:32.527
  • Paul says, lay aside the weight...
  • 00:24:32.527 --> 00:24:34.329
  • Well, we don't know paul, whoever wrote hebrews so.
  • 00:24:34.329 --> 00:24:36.565
  • - yeah. - he says,
  • 00:24:36.565 --> 00:24:38.133
  • "lay aside the weight, and the sin that so easily beset you
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  • And run the race with endurance that is set before you,
  • 00:24:40.468 --> 00:24:43.705
  • As you just read, looking unto jesus,
  • 00:24:43.705 --> 00:24:46.341
  • The author and finisher of our faith."
  • 00:24:46.341 --> 00:24:49.511
  • So god finishes what he starts.
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  • - and your salvation is firm in him.
  • 00:24:52.781 --> 00:24:56.217
  • - amen. - and we should walk
  • 00:24:56.217 --> 00:24:57.485
  • With that assurance, but keep our eyes on him
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  • And do it for god's glory.
  • 00:24:59.721 --> 00:25:01.056
  • - yeah. i love that.
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  • We're gonna rejoin by one of my favorite people.
  • 00:25:02.757 --> 00:25:05.393
  • We just, barry and i love pastor robert jeffress
  • 00:25:05.393 --> 00:25:08.396
  • Of first baptist church in dallas.
  • 00:25:08.396 --> 00:25:10.565
  • Such a godly man,
  • 00:25:10.565 --> 00:25:12.233
  • Such a prophetic voice in this day and time.
  • 00:25:12.233 --> 00:25:15.370
  • So dr. jeffress, i just wanna thank you
  • 00:25:15.370 --> 00:25:17.472
  • So much for joining us.
  • 00:25:17.472 --> 00:25:19.174
  • And i would love to hear your perspective
  • 00:25:19.174 --> 00:25:21.343
  • Of what's gone on over the last few days.
  • 00:25:21.343 --> 00:25:24.779
  • - well, sheila, it's great to be with you
  • 00:25:24.779 --> 00:25:26.481
  • And our tbn family.
  • 00:25:26.481 --> 00:25:28.650
  • You know, over the last few months
  • 00:25:28.650 --> 00:25:31.553
  • There has been a debate going on in our country,
  • 00:25:31.553 --> 00:25:33.922
  • A debate even within, among conservatives about
  • 00:25:33.922 --> 00:25:37.859
  • What should be the relationship between america and israel
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  • And should we be supporting israel.
  • 00:25:41.096 --> 00:25:43.898
  • And many of your viewers saw some clips of that debate
  • 00:25:43.898 --> 00:25:48.570
  • Between tucker carlson and senator cruz.
  • 00:25:48.570 --> 00:25:52.173
  • And tucker was ridiculing senator cruz
  • 00:25:52.173 --> 00:25:56.011
  • For his support of israel and invoking the bible,
  • 00:25:56.011 --> 00:25:58.880
  • And he said, "where does it say that in the bible,
  • 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.016
  • Christians are supposed to support israel?
  • 00:26:01.016 --> 00:26:03.785
  • And what does it mean to support israel?"
  • 00:26:03.785 --> 00:26:06.321
  • Well, let me take a few moments and help tucker out
  • 00:26:06.321 --> 00:26:09.824
  • Because it's very clear what the bible says
  • 00:26:09.824 --> 00:26:13.294
  • In genesis 12. and other passages.
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  • Look, to support israel,
  • 00:26:16.197 --> 00:26:18.133
  • First of all means to support israel's right to even exist.
  • 00:26:18.133 --> 00:26:22.303
  • - [sheila] yeah.
  • 00:26:22.303 --> 00:26:23.772
  • - iran doesn't believe israel has the right to exist.
  • 00:26:23.772 --> 00:26:25.874
  • They have as a stated goal
  • 00:26:25.874 --> 00:26:27.242
  • To wipe israel off the face of the earth.
  • 00:26:27.242 --> 00:26:30.045
  • The only problem with that is that isn't god's plan.
  • 00:26:30.045 --> 00:26:33.615
  • God is the one who created israel.
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  • Israel is the only nation in the world that can say
  • 00:26:36.751 --> 00:26:39.888
  • It was truly created by god.
  • 00:26:39.888 --> 00:26:42.457
  • Only israel has the promise of endurance.
  • 00:26:42.457 --> 00:26:45.260
  • There is no nation under heaven,
  • 00:26:45.260 --> 00:26:47.696
  • Including the united states of america
  • 00:26:47.696 --> 00:26:50.932
  • That will last forever.
  • 00:26:50.932 --> 00:26:52.634
  • We know that in the tribulation time,
  • 00:26:52.634 --> 00:26:55.370
  • America will cease to exist as we know it.
  • 00:26:55.370 --> 00:26:58.073
  • It will be a part of a 10 nation confederacy
  • 00:26:58.073 --> 00:27:00.975
  • That israel will endure forever.
  • 00:27:00.975 --> 00:27:04.112
  • And secondly, to support israel means
  • 00:27:04.112 --> 00:27:06.581
  • To support israel's right to exist
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  • In the land that god has given her.
  • 00:27:09.150 --> 00:27:11.986
  • And greg made mention of that, and you've mentioned that.
  • 00:27:11.986 --> 00:27:16.091
  • Look, the left is infiltrating our college campuses
  • 00:27:16.091 --> 00:27:20.695
  • And propagating this lie
  • 00:27:20.695 --> 00:27:22.697
  • That the land doesn't belong to israel,
  • 00:27:22.697 --> 00:27:25.300
  • It's belonged to those poor palestinians for eons.
  • 00:27:25.300 --> 00:27:29.604
  • And the nation of israel
  • 00:27:29.604 --> 00:27:30.939
  • Only came into existence 50 years ago.
  • 00:27:30.939 --> 00:27:33.541
  • And the israelite, the jewish people stole that land
  • 00:27:33.541 --> 00:27:37.078
  • From the poor palestinians.
  • 00:27:37.078 --> 00:27:39.080
  • That is a lie straight from the pit of hell.
  • 00:27:39.080 --> 00:27:41.750
  • Israel didn't steal the land. israel was in the land.
  • 00:27:41.750 --> 00:27:44.652
  • We know that not only because of what the bible tells us,
  • 00:27:44.652 --> 00:27:48.123
  • But history and archeology has revealed
  • 00:27:48.123 --> 00:27:50.792
  • That israel was in that land more than 3000 years ago.
  • 00:27:50.792 --> 00:27:55.563
  • And so we are called on as christians to support israel,
  • 00:27:55.563 --> 00:27:59.734
  • Her right to exist, her right to exist in the land
  • 00:27:59.734 --> 00:28:02.971
  • That god has given her.
  • 00:28:02.971 --> 00:28:05.340
  • And thank god, and i mean that literally,
  • 00:28:05.340 --> 00:28:08.743
  • Thank god we have a president who understands that.
  • 00:28:08.743 --> 00:28:12.113
  • And saturday night we saw him act in a decisive,
  • 00:28:12.113 --> 00:28:15.650
  • Courageous way, in a way to support the nation of israel.
  • 00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:20.288
  • We've never seen a president with this kind of courage
  • 00:28:20.288 --> 00:28:23.358
  • And this clear understanding of israel.
  • 00:28:23.358 --> 00:28:26.561
  • And i, thursday afternoon when the...
  • 00:28:26.561 --> 00:28:31.132
  • - and it was getting bombarded,
  • 00:28:31.766 --> 00:28:33.067
  • It seemed from so many different factions,
  • 00:28:33.067 --> 00:28:34.502
  • Even in his own group of support, i texted the president,
  • 00:28:34.502 --> 00:28:38.473
  • Just said, there are 70, there are millions of christians
  • 00:28:38.473 --> 00:28:42.977
  • Who are praying for you fervently,
  • 00:28:42.977 --> 00:28:45.246
  • And we trust you to make the right decision.
  • 00:28:45.246 --> 00:28:48.483
  • Whatever that decision is, they're going to support you.
  • 00:28:48.483 --> 00:28:51.920
  • Well, he made the right decision.
  • 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.855
  • And i think we ought to continue to pray
  • 00:28:53.855 --> 00:28:55.924
  • For president trump's decision making
  • 00:28:55.924 --> 00:28:59.727
  • And also pray for his protection.
  • 00:28:59.727 --> 00:29:02.163
  • He is under real physical as well as spiritual threat,
  • 00:29:02.163 --> 00:29:06.868
  • And i believe he's gonna be victorious in that.
  • 00:29:06.868 --> 00:29:11.039
  • - yeah, that's really powerful.
  • 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.308
  • In fact, i would love us to pause here, pastor
  • 00:29:13.308 --> 00:29:15.510
  • And i would love you to pray for our president
  • 00:29:15.510 --> 00:29:18.179
  • And for those around him,
  • 00:29:18.179 --> 00:29:19.581
  • For god's protection and wisdom and understanding.
  • 00:29:19.581 --> 00:29:22.717
  • Would you do that?
  • 00:29:22.717 --> 00:29:24.819
  • - father, we come before you
  • 00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:27.155
  • Realizing that you are the great god.
  • 00:29:27.155 --> 00:29:30.091
  • You are the one who establishes kings and removes kings.
  • 00:29:30.091 --> 00:29:35.330
  • And we know and believe that you placed president trump
  • 00:29:36.431 --> 00:29:39.934
  • Where he is for such a time as this.
  • 00:29:39.934 --> 00:29:42.904
  • We thank you for the heart he has for you,
  • 00:29:42.904 --> 00:29:45.940
  • The genuine respect for the lord that he has.
  • 00:29:45.940 --> 00:29:49.677
  • And i just pray, father,
  • 00:29:49.677 --> 00:29:51.646
  • That you would guide him in every crucial decision
  • 00:29:51.646 --> 00:29:54.916
  • That he makes, that he would have the mind of jesus christ.
  • 00:29:54.916 --> 00:29:58.653
  • And father, i pray that you would protect him from those
  • 00:29:58.653 --> 00:30:01.789
  • Who would harm him.
  • 00:30:01.789 --> 00:30:03.224
  • What happened in butler, pennsylvania
  • 00:30:03.224 --> 00:30:05.260
  • Was a divine intervention on your part
  • 00:30:05.260 --> 00:30:08.029
  • To preserve his life and use him.
  • 00:30:08.029 --> 00:30:10.632
  • And father, i pray that we might emulate his example
  • 00:30:10.632 --> 00:30:13.801
  • In giving you the glory for any success we experience.
  • 00:30:13.801 --> 00:30:17.739
  • We never before have heard any us president,
  • 00:30:17.739 --> 00:30:21.242
  • Republican, or democrat say publicly, "we love you, god."
  • 00:30:21.242 --> 00:30:26.514
  • Thank you for this president.
  • 00:30:27.148 --> 00:30:28.449
  • Pray your blessings upon him and his family
  • 00:30:28.449 --> 00:30:31.452
  • In the days ahead.
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  • We pray also for prime minister, netanyahu.
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  • - [host] yes. - thank you for putting him
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  • In his place of leadership right now.
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  • We know he has a churchillian task
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  • Of keeping his people encouraged as they continue
  • 00:30:43.431 --> 00:30:47.201
  • To suffer assault after assault and i pray
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  • That you would grant them victory in all that they do.
  • 00:30:50.238 --> 00:30:53.308
  • And father, as our friend greg laurie said,
  • 00:30:53.308 --> 00:30:55.743
  • I just pray that we would use this as an opportunity
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  • To present the gospel of christ.
  • 00:31:00.014 --> 00:31:02.383
  • We know that the light shines brightest in the darkness
  • 00:31:02.383 --> 00:31:05.753
  • And those of us who know christ as savior have no reason
  • 00:31:05.753 --> 00:31:08.990
  • To be discouraged, but every reason to be encouraged
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  • As we see all of these things coming together
  • 00:31:12.060 --> 00:31:15.096
  • As a preparation for the glorious return
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  • Of your son and our savior, jesus christ.
  • 00:31:18.399 --> 00:31:21.769
  • It's in his powerful name that we pray. amen!
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  • - amen!
  • 00:31:24.973 --> 00:31:26.574
  • Amen! dr. jeffress, let me ask you just one more question.
  • 00:31:26.574 --> 00:31:28.576
  • One of the most influential books i read as a young believer
  • 00:31:28.576 --> 00:31:32.013
  • Was francis schaeffer's book, "how should we then live?"
  • 00:31:32.013 --> 00:31:35.016
  • What do you say to us as god's people on this planet
  • 00:31:35.016 --> 00:31:38.686
  • During these days?
  • 00:31:38.686 --> 00:31:39.721
  • How should we live?
  • 00:31:39.721 --> 00:31:41.723
  • - well, first of all, we ought to live
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  • With a sense of holiness.
  • 00:31:44.392 --> 00:31:46.160
  • You know, the bible never divorces bible prophecy
  • 00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.697
  • From practical application.
  • 00:31:49.697 --> 00:31:51.699
  • In 2 peter 3, peter goes into a description of the end times
  • 00:31:51.699 --> 00:31:56.371
  • And the final destruction of the present heaven
  • 00:31:56.371 --> 00:31:58.940
  • And the present earth
  • 00:31:58.940 --> 00:32:00.408
  • And the coming of the new heaven and the new earth.
  • 00:32:00.408 --> 00:32:02.577
  • And then he says, "therefore,
  • 00:32:02.577 --> 00:32:04.812
  • What sort of people ought we to be
  • 00:32:04.812 --> 00:32:07.515
  • In holy conduct and godliness
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  • Looking for in hastening the coming of the lord?"
  • 00:32:10.518 --> 00:32:13.388
  • So, we ought to be motivated to holy living,
  • 00:32:13.388 --> 00:32:15.923
  • Knowing that the lord is coming back soon.
  • 00:32:15.923 --> 00:32:18.860
  • But not only should we be people of holiness,
  • 00:32:18.860 --> 00:32:21.029
  • We should be people of hope.
  • 00:32:21.029 --> 00:32:23.131
  • You know, you referenced the verse
  • 00:32:23.131 --> 00:32:24.766
  • At the top of the program.
  • 00:32:24.766 --> 00:32:26.434
  • We need to be ready to give an answer to anyone,
  • 00:32:26.434 --> 00:32:29.604
  • Not for the depression that is within us,
  • 00:32:29.604 --> 00:32:31.939
  • Or the fear that is within us,
  • 00:32:31.939 --> 00:32:33.708
  • But the hope that is within us.
  • 00:32:33.708 --> 00:32:35.777
  • And greg talked about using these times
  • 00:32:35.777 --> 00:32:38.246
  • As opportunities to share the gospel.
  • 00:32:38.246 --> 00:32:40.815
  • When people say, you know,
  • 00:32:40.815 --> 00:32:42.350
  • "we don't know what's going to happen in the world.
  • 00:32:42.350 --> 00:32:44.419
  • We don't know what's gonna happen",
  • 00:32:44.419 --> 00:32:46.521
  • The world seems out of control.
  • 00:32:46.521 --> 00:32:48.189
  • We can assure them that the world is under
  • 00:32:48.189 --> 00:32:50.558
  • God's sovereignty, it's inhhis control,
  • 00:32:50.558 --> 00:32:53.061
  • And the most important thing we can do is be ready
  • 00:32:53.061 --> 00:32:55.763
  • To meet him when the end comes.
  • 00:32:55.763 --> 00:32:58.499
  • I've told you before, sheila, i had a friend
  • 00:32:58.499 --> 00:33:02.270
  • Who's now deceased who used to work at fox news.
  • 00:33:02.270 --> 00:33:05.173
  • He was jewish,
  • 00:33:05.173 --> 00:33:09.477
  • But he always gave me an opportunity to share the gospel.
  • 00:33:09.477 --> 00:33:12.914
  • His name was alan colmes.
  • 00:33:12.914 --> 00:33:14.515
  • And one time he said to me on his program, he said,
  • 00:33:14.515 --> 00:33:17.785
  • "pastor, do you believe you're gonna be alive
  • 00:33:17.785 --> 00:33:19.887
  • To see jesus come back again?"
  • 00:33:19.887 --> 00:33:21.956
  • - wow. (chuckles) - i said, "well, i don't know.
  • 00:33:21.956 --> 00:33:23.724
  • I don't know alan,
  • 00:33:23.724 --> 00:33:25.059
  • But it really doesn't make any difference."
  • 00:33:25.059 --> 00:33:26.761
  • He said, "what do you mean it doesn't make any difference?"
  • 00:33:26.761 --> 00:33:29.063
  • I said, "well."
  • 00:33:29.063 --> 00:33:30.698
  • - i'm 55 years old,
  • 00:33:31.165 --> 00:33:32.366
  • And i know that in the next 30 years,
  • 00:33:32.366 --> 00:33:34.569
  • One of two things is happening.
  • 00:33:34.569 --> 00:33:35.970
  • Either he's coming or i'm going,
  • 00:33:35.970 --> 00:33:38.439
  • But the end is close for me,
  • 00:33:38.439 --> 00:33:40.108
  • And it's close for you as well.
  • 00:33:40.108 --> 00:33:42.243
  • - wow. - which is why
  • 00:33:42.243 --> 00:33:43.277
  • We all better get ready.
  • 00:33:43.277 --> 00:33:44.445
  • - wow.
  • 00:33:44.445 --> 00:33:45.346
  • Dr. jeffress, we love you.
  • 00:33:45.346 --> 00:33:46.914
  • We thank you so much.
  • 00:33:46.914 --> 00:33:48.483
  • I got to listen to your sermon yesterday at first baptist.
  • 00:33:48.483 --> 00:33:49.917
  • It was fantastic.
  • 00:33:49.917 --> 00:33:51.018
  • Thank you so much for joining us.
  • 00:33:51.018 --> 00:33:52.787
  • - thank you.
  • 00:33:52.787 --> 00:33:53.921
  • Thank you, great to see you.
  • 00:33:53.921 --> 00:33:55.723
  • - oh.
  • 00:33:55.723 --> 00:33:56.991
  • You know, it's so encouraging to me, greg,
  • 00:33:56.991 --> 00:33:58.826
  • Because like, if you just read social media,
  • 00:33:58.826 --> 00:34:02.296
  • Which i do not recommend.
  • 00:34:02.296 --> 00:34:03.264
  • I mean, it has its place
  • 00:34:03.264 --> 00:34:04.732
  • And it's good, but boy,
  • 00:34:04.732 --> 00:34:06.000
  • You hear so many stories right now
  • 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.169
  • Of, and you touched on this,
  • 00:34:08.169 --> 00:34:09.804
  • Of people falling away or. - yeah, yeah.
  • 00:34:09.804 --> 00:34:12.039
  • - secret lives being exposed
  • 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:13.474
  • And it's easy to be so discouraged.
  • 00:34:13.474 --> 00:34:16.911
  • - [greg] right.
  • 00:34:16.911 --> 00:34:18.246
  • - but, but i think now when that is happening,
  • 00:34:18.246 --> 00:34:21.616
  • You wanna shine your light brighter.
  • 00:34:21.616 --> 00:34:23.784
  • - yeah. - don't you?
  • 00:34:23.784 --> 00:34:24.986
  • You want to be somebody who live like,
  • 00:34:24.986 --> 00:34:27.021
  • We actually believe what we see.
  • 00:34:27.021 --> 00:34:29.190
  • We believe.
  • 00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:30.658
  • - yeah, so robert jeffress, he's such a great guy.
  • 00:34:30.658 --> 00:34:34.295
  • Last time i saw him was at the white house.
  • 00:34:34.295 --> 00:34:36.230
  • We were there at the invitation of the president
  • 00:34:36.230 --> 00:34:39.033
  • For a meeting and he's such a wonderful man of god.
  • 00:34:39.033 --> 00:34:43.604
  • - [reporter] yeah.
  • 00:34:43.604 --> 00:34:44.906
  • - and i was thinking of what he was saying
  • 00:34:44.906 --> 00:34:46.440
  • About how the bible,
  • 00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:47.708
  • When it talks about the coming of the lord,
  • 00:34:47.708 --> 00:34:48.943
  • It tells us to live holy lives.
  • 00:34:48.943 --> 00:34:50.344
  • In first john three, it says he there, or not three.
  • 00:34:50.344 --> 00:34:53.114
  • First john, maybe it is three.
  • 00:34:53.114 --> 00:34:54.982
  • I have to check.
  • 00:34:54.982 --> 00:34:56.050
  • I should know.
  • 00:34:56.050 --> 00:34:56.884
  • I'm a preacher.
  • 00:34:56.884 --> 00:34:58.186
  • Anyway, he then has this whole purifies himself
  • 00:34:58.186 --> 00:35:01.055
  • Even as he is pure.
  • 00:35:01.055 --> 00:35:02.590
  • So if i really understand the imminent return of christ,
  • 00:35:02.590 --> 00:35:06.227
  • It should have a purifying effect on my life.
  • 00:35:06.227 --> 00:35:08.563
  • Example, let's say you were a little kid,
  • 00:35:08.563 --> 00:35:10.932
  • And you were misbehaving.
  • 00:35:10.932 --> 00:35:12.466
  • Your mother would threaten you with the ominous words.
  • 00:35:12.466 --> 00:35:14.068
  • You just wait until
  • 00:35:14.068 --> 00:35:15.403
  • Your father gets home. - [reporter] your father
  • 00:35:15.403 --> 00:35:16.103
  • Gets home.
  • 00:35:16.103 --> 00:35:17.071
  • - so you dreaded dad's arrival.
  • 00:35:17.071 --> 00:35:18.439
  • But let's say you're a good boy or girl.
  • 00:35:18.439 --> 00:35:20.174
  • You couldn't wait until daddy got home, right?
  • 00:35:20.174 --> 00:35:22.944
  • So i think if we're walking with god
  • 00:35:22.944 --> 00:35:24.478
  • And we hear, oh, jesus is coming,
  • 00:35:24.478 --> 00:35:26.247
  • You know, our heart jumps a little bit
  • 00:35:26.247 --> 00:35:28.583
  • And like the apostle john, we say, even so come, lord jesus.
  • 00:35:28.583 --> 00:35:33.287
  • But if we're not walking with the lord,
  • 00:35:33.287 --> 00:35:35.590
  • As jesus told the parable.
  • 00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:37.191
  • That servant says, my master delays us coming
  • 00:35:37.191 --> 00:35:40.027
  • And begins to beat a sermon,
  • 00:35:40.027 --> 00:35:41.529
  • Something's really wrong there.
  • 00:35:41.529 --> 00:35:43.130
  • So it should affect us.
  • 00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:44.532
  • And this is why i believe, sheila,
  • 00:35:44.532 --> 00:35:46.500
  • It's so important that we understand end times events
  • 00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:49.737
  • And you know, it's fallen out of favor,
  • 00:35:49.737 --> 00:35:52.940
  • This so-called dispensational kind of teaching.
  • 00:35:52.940 --> 00:35:55.743
  • And it's been, something that's taken its place
  • 00:35:55.743 --> 00:35:58.813
  • Called replacement theology.
  • 00:35:58.813 --> 00:36:01.649
  • And i know that robert and i,
  • 00:36:01.649 --> 00:36:03.584
  • And dr. jeremiah and so many others,
  • 00:36:03.584 --> 00:36:06.187
  • We believe that the lord could come back at any moment.
  • 00:36:06.187 --> 00:36:09.890
  • We believe god chose the jewish people.
  • 00:36:09.890 --> 00:36:12.426
  • We don't think he has rescinded his promise.
  • 00:36:12.426 --> 00:36:14.595
  • We believe he's put them in the land.
  • 00:36:14.595 --> 00:36:17.164
  • And, but there are some that would say
  • 00:36:17.164 --> 00:36:19.700
  • No, god's promise to israel is null and void.
  • 00:36:19.700 --> 00:36:23.070
  • And the church has taken the place of israel.
  • 00:36:23.070 --> 00:36:26.073
  • And this is a dangerous teaching.
  • 00:36:26.073 --> 00:36:28.376
  • And i think it's something that we need to go back
  • 00:36:28.376 --> 00:36:31.012
  • And reread our bibles again.
  • 00:36:31.012 --> 00:36:32.546
  • Some would say, well, this idea of dispensational teaching,
  • 00:36:32.546 --> 00:36:35.149
  • It was popularized, popularized fairly recently.
  • 00:36:35.149 --> 00:36:38.953
  • As i see it, it's about 2000 years old.
  • 00:36:38.953 --> 00:36:41.722
  • And before, of course, if you go to the old testament.
  • 00:36:41.722 --> 00:36:44.091
  • The apostle paul, certainly he was the one
  • 00:36:44.091 --> 00:36:47.261
  • Who gave us first thessalonians 4:17.
  • 00:36:47.261 --> 00:36:50.197
  • And people will get hung up on the word rapture.
  • 00:36:50.197 --> 00:36:53.534
  • The word rapture isn't in the bible.
  • 00:36:53.534 --> 00:36:55.336
  • Well to the point the word bible isn't in the bible,
  • 00:36:55.336 --> 00:36:58.506
  • Nor is the word trinity in the bible.
  • 00:36:58.506 --> 00:37:00.675
  • But the word harpazo is in the bible.
  • 00:37:00.675 --> 00:37:03.377
  • And that's a greek word translated rapture.
  • 00:37:03.377 --> 00:37:06.447
  • The word harpazo, to be caught up,
  • 00:37:06.447 --> 00:37:08.949
  • Is used many times in the bible,
  • 00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:11.786
  • Including first thessalonians four,
  • 00:37:11.786 --> 00:37:13.587
  • The lord will descend from heaven
  • 00:37:13.587 --> 00:37:15.156
  • With the voice of the archangel,
  • 00:37:15.156 --> 00:37:16.590
  • And we will be caught up harpazo
  • 00:37:16.590 --> 00:37:19.527
  • To meet the lord in the air.
  • 00:37:19.527 --> 00:37:21.696
  • So, you know, why do we care about israel?
  • 00:37:21.696 --> 00:37:24.165
  • Coming back to what robert was saying,
  • 00:37:24.165 --> 00:37:26.901
  • God has placed him in the land,
  • 00:37:26.901 --> 00:37:29.103
  • And he has given a promise in genesis 12,
  • 00:37:29.103 --> 00:37:31.739
  • Of bless those that bless you.
  • 00:37:31.739 --> 00:37:33.574
  • That applies to the jewish people.
  • 00:37:33.574 --> 00:37:36.077
  • Let's not forget,
  • 00:37:36.077 --> 00:37:36.977
  • Israel came into existence
  • 00:37:36.977 --> 00:37:38.779
  • On the heels of the holocaust, where 6 million people,
  • 00:37:38.779 --> 00:37:44.051
  • Jewish people in particular,
  • 00:37:44.652 --> 00:37:46.187
  • Died and others as well.
  • 00:37:46.187 --> 00:37:47.455
  • They returned to their homeland
  • 00:37:47.455 --> 00:37:49.423
  • In fulfillment of bible prophecy.
  • 00:37:49.423 --> 00:37:51.592
  • This is the jewish homeland.
  • 00:37:51.592 --> 00:37:54.595
  • And so when we see this promise
  • 00:37:54.595 --> 00:37:57.465
  • Given by god to abraham and his descendants,
  • 00:37:57.465 --> 00:38:00.067
  • It applies to jewish people in general,
  • 00:38:00.067 --> 00:38:03.437
  • And it applies to the jewish homeland as well.
  • 00:38:03.437 --> 00:38:06.741
  • That doesn't mean that everything,
  • 00:38:06.741 --> 00:38:08.142
  • The modern state of israel
  • 00:38:08.142 --> 00:38:09.510
  • Does on every occasion is always the right thing.
  • 00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:12.780
  • But we are to pray for them,
  • 00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:14.648
  • We are to bless them,
  • 00:38:14.648 --> 00:38:15.850
  • We're to pray for their leadership.
  • 00:38:15.850 --> 00:38:17.385
  • And this is something
  • 00:38:17.385 --> 00:38:18.819
  • That, you know, is very important to me.
  • 00:38:18.819 --> 00:38:21.655
  • I had a jewish lady come up to me recently.
  • 00:38:21.655 --> 00:38:24.158
  • She was walking her dog in front of my house,
  • 00:38:24.158 --> 00:38:26.727
  • And she said, "i want to just thank you for what you've."
  • 00:38:26.727 --> 00:38:29.897
  • - said on behalf of the jewish people, she is,
  • 00:38:30.798 --> 00:38:32.099
  • I have a, my daughter is going to university,
  • 00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:34.168
  • And with the rise of antisemitism, i'm very concerned.
  • 00:38:34.168 --> 00:38:37.838
  • And i thought she was a christian.
  • 00:38:37.838 --> 00:38:39.440
  • And i said, "well, are you christian?"
  • 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.542
  • Goes, "no, i'm jewish, but thank you for what you've done
  • 00:38:41.542 --> 00:38:44.044
  • For our people." - yeah.
  • 00:38:44.044 --> 00:38:45.279
  • - and recently, sheila, we were in israel,
  • 00:38:45.279 --> 00:38:48.582
  • And we actually left right before this attack
  • 00:38:48.582 --> 00:38:52.386
  • In iran took place, which was a response
  • 00:38:52.386 --> 00:38:54.789
  • To their attack in israel.
  • 00:38:54.789 --> 00:38:56.056
  • Just wanted to mention that.
  • 00:38:56.056 --> 00:38:57.792
  • But we presented the state of israel, an armored ambulance,
  • 00:38:57.792 --> 00:39:03.164
  • Effectively a hospital on wheels,
  • 00:39:03.931 --> 00:39:06.367
  • At the request of the president of israel
  • 00:39:06.367 --> 00:39:08.702
  • To franklin graham.
  • 00:39:08.702 --> 00:39:10.237
  • So i called franklin after october 7th,
  • 00:39:10.237 --> 00:39:12.506
  • When the israelis were attacked by hamas.
  • 00:39:12.506 --> 00:39:15.109
  • I said, "what can we do?"
  • 00:39:15.109 --> 00:39:16.544
  • He said, "well, the president of israel asked us
  • 00:39:16.544 --> 00:39:18.746
  • To give some armored ambulances, and we're gonna give them,
  • 00:39:18.746 --> 00:39:21.248
  • Present them a number of them."
  • 00:39:21.248 --> 00:39:22.750
  • I said, "we're in for one."
  • 00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:24.285
  • So, we presented it to them, and it was a tangible way
  • 00:39:24.285 --> 00:39:27.455
  • To say to the jewish people, "yeah, we're praying for you.
  • 00:39:27.455 --> 00:39:30.057
  • We care about you, but this will save lives,
  • 00:39:30.057 --> 00:39:33.093
  • Both israeli and arab," so-
  • 00:39:33.093 --> 00:39:36.263
  • - [sheila] wow.
  • 00:39:36.263 --> 00:39:37.565
  • - that was a tangible gesture we wanted to do.
  • 00:39:37.565 --> 00:39:39.533
  • And i did it in the name of jesus christ.
  • 00:39:39.533 --> 00:39:42.169
  • And even when i presented it to them, i told them,
  • 00:39:42.169 --> 00:39:45.239
  • "the reason i do this is because jesus christ
  • 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.808
  • Changed my life at the age of 17.
  • 00:39:47.808 --> 00:39:50.478
  • And as i began to read the bible,
  • 00:39:50.478 --> 00:39:52.913
  • I began to learn about your people.
  • 00:39:52.913 --> 00:39:54.615
  • And this is why we care about you and love you."
  • 00:39:54.615 --> 00:39:56.383
  • - wow, i think that's beautiful.
  • 00:39:56.383 --> 00:39:58.352
  • I'm gonna be joined by joel rosenberg,
  • 00:39:58.352 --> 00:40:01.489
  • Brilliant, brilliant author.
  • 00:40:01.489 --> 00:40:03.190
  • - [greg] another one of my friends.
  • 00:40:03.190 --> 00:40:04.091
  • - yeah, another one, yes.
  • 00:40:04.091 --> 00:40:06.126
  • And joel, i just wanna say welcome.
  • 00:40:06.126 --> 00:40:08.128
  • It's so great to have you with us here tonight.
  • 00:40:08.128 --> 00:40:10.030
  • And i wanted to ask you, i mean,
  • 00:40:10.030 --> 00:40:11.932
  • You've lived in israel for many years.
  • 00:40:11.932 --> 00:40:14.001
  • Have you ever experienced a time like this before?
  • 00:40:14.001 --> 00:40:18.172
  • - sheila, it's great to be with you and even with greg,
  • 00:40:19.273 --> 00:40:22.009
  • So it's lovely to be with you guys,
  • 00:40:22.009 --> 00:40:24.645
  • And robert and your whole group, haim.
  • 00:40:24.645 --> 00:40:28.048
  • Yeah, and greetings and shalom from jerusalem.
  • 00:40:28.048 --> 00:40:31.151
  • No, i first came to israel to study as an undergraduate
  • 00:40:31.151 --> 00:40:36.156
  • At tel aviv university.
  • 00:40:36.156 --> 00:40:37.558
  • That was 1987, and i've been coming back and forth,
  • 00:40:37.558 --> 00:40:40.828
  • And of course we've lived here, lynn and i and the boys,
  • 00:40:40.828 --> 00:40:44.598
  • For 11 years as dual us-israeli citizens.
  • 00:40:44.598 --> 00:40:49.303
  • One of my sons is married and lives in the states,
  • 00:40:49.303 --> 00:40:52.306
  • But the other three boys,
  • 00:40:52.306 --> 00:40:54.208
  • Boys, they're men now, live here.
  • 00:40:54.208 --> 00:40:56.210
  • All of them have served in the army,
  • 00:40:56.210 --> 00:40:57.978
  • One of them in special forces.
  • 00:40:57.978 --> 00:40:59.747
  • The youngest just was drafted
  • 00:40:59.747 --> 00:41:01.582
  • Into the israeli defense forces on may 4th.
  • 00:41:01.582 --> 00:41:05.586
  • We told him, "may the fourth be with you."
  • 00:41:05.586 --> 00:41:07.821
  • Yeah, but we're all in.
  • 00:41:07.821 --> 00:41:09.490
  • You know, we're jewish on my dad's side.
  • 00:41:09.490 --> 00:41:12.293
  • He was orthodox jewish, but we are followers of jesus.
  • 00:41:12.293 --> 00:41:15.496
  • We're followers of yeshua, and i gotta tell you,
  • 00:41:15.496 --> 00:41:17.831
  • In the 40-some years that i've been coming here,
  • 00:41:17.831 --> 00:41:22.436
  • Or now living here, all in, there's never been a moment,
  • 00:41:22.436 --> 00:41:26.874
  • There's never been a moment in the modern history of israel
  • 00:41:26.874 --> 00:41:29.443
  • Except the war of independence itself-
  • 00:41:29.443 --> 00:41:31.579
  • - [sheila] yeah.
  • 00:41:31.579 --> 00:41:32.713
  • - in which the seven arab nations
  • 00:41:32.713 --> 00:41:34.148
  • Tried to abort the baby israel, you know, in the womb,
  • 00:41:34.148 --> 00:41:37.785
  • Or let's say, in the crib or in the hospital,
  • 00:41:37.785 --> 00:41:39.720
  • However you wanna use the analogy.
  • 00:41:39.720 --> 00:41:41.488
  • This is the darkest hour in israel's modern history.
  • 00:41:41.488 --> 00:41:45.593
  • It's the longest war that we ever had.
  • 00:41:45.593 --> 00:41:48.195
  • And it just keeps getting worse.
  • 00:41:48.195 --> 00:41:50.431
  • We are on offense, we are gonna win.
  • 00:41:50.431 --> 00:41:53.000
  • And i'm deeply grateful both to prime minister netanyahu
  • 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.337
  • And to president trump for having the courage
  • 00:41:56.337 --> 00:41:59.239
  • To do what even many of their own advisors
  • 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.508
  • And even their own supporters told them not to do,
  • 00:42:01.508 --> 00:42:05.245
  • Particularly president trump.
  • 00:42:05.245 --> 00:42:06.947
  • They had the courage to do it, but we are experiencing,
  • 00:42:06.947 --> 00:42:11.018
  • You know, the blow-back right now, as you and i speak.
  • 00:42:11.018 --> 00:42:15.923
  • There's been just thousands and thousands and thousands
  • 00:42:15.923 --> 00:42:18.192
  • Of missiles over the last 22 months, but just over the last,
  • 00:42:18.192 --> 00:42:21.895
  • You know, week and a half, the missiles are much larger,
  • 00:42:21.895 --> 00:42:27.267
  • They're much more destructive, and yet,
  • 00:42:28.135 --> 00:42:30.404
  • One miracle after another, there's,
  • 00:42:30.404 --> 00:42:32.840
  • I don't wanna say only 24 dead.
  • 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.776
  • There's thousands that are homeless, like 10,000 people
  • 00:42:35.776 --> 00:42:38.779
  • That are homeless now,
  • 00:42:38.779 --> 00:42:40.180
  • 'cause their apartments are completely obliterated,
  • 00:42:40.180 --> 00:42:42.282
  • And there are thousands that are wounded,
  • 00:42:42.282 --> 00:42:44.785
  • But 24 dead with missiles,
  • 00:42:44.785 --> 00:42:48.622
  • Ballistic missiles raining down on us.
  • 00:42:48.622 --> 00:42:50.958
  • It's exhausting, but we're doing it, and we're enduring it,
  • 00:42:50.958 --> 00:42:56.263
  • But no, i've never seen anything like this.
  • 00:42:57.164 --> 00:42:59.767
  • - i was reading a couple of articles last night
  • 00:42:59.767 --> 00:43:01.669
  • That you've written, and i wrote down something you said
  • 00:43:01.669 --> 00:43:03.837
  • That i thought was phenomenal.
  • 00:43:03.837 --> 00:43:05.572
  • You talked about, "we don't want to just destroy
  • 00:43:05.572 --> 00:43:08.342
  • Or neutralize the iranians' threat.
  • 00:43:08.342 --> 00:43:10.711
  • I want to see this wicked, demonic regime fall."
  • 00:43:10.711 --> 00:43:15.215
  • Talk to us about that.
  • 00:43:15.215 --> 00:43:16.917
  • - yeah, well, you know, i use that language advisedly,
  • 00:43:17.985 --> 00:43:22.923
  • Like, this is not, you know, i'm not some late-night pundit
  • 00:43:22.923 --> 00:43:27.728
  • Just taking a shot at somebody i don't.
  • 00:43:27.728 --> 00:43:30.464
  • - this is studying this regime and looking at the trauma,
  • 00:43:31.598 --> 00:43:37.237
  • The tyranny, the terror,
  • 00:43:37.738 --> 00:43:40.107
  • That the iranian regime,
  • 00:43:40.107 --> 00:43:42.209
  • And there's only been two of them
  • 00:43:42.209 --> 00:43:43.377
  • In the last almost 50 years.
  • 00:43:43.377 --> 00:43:46.113
  • The khomeini regime that came in in 1979,
  • 00:43:46.113 --> 00:43:49.717
  • The ayatollah ruhollah khomeini,
  • 00:43:49.717 --> 00:43:52.586
  • And then after khomeini died in 1989,
  • 00:43:52.586 --> 00:43:56.056
  • Then it's supreme leader ali hamaney.
  • 00:43:56.056 --> 00:43:59.159
  • There's only been these two, and they have terrorized.
  • 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.228
  • Yeah, they've terrorized israel.
  • 00:44:01.228 --> 00:44:02.730
  • Yeah, they've terrorized the arab world
  • 00:44:02.730 --> 00:44:05.265
  • And america and our allies.
  • 00:44:05.265 --> 00:44:07.034
  • But they've just traumatized their own people.
  • 00:44:07.034 --> 00:44:11.638
  • - [host] yeah.
  • 00:44:11.638 --> 00:44:13.073
  • - and there's 85 million people that are living in hell.
  • 00:44:13.073 --> 00:44:17.911
  • Ironically, ironically is not even the right word.
  • 00:44:18.946 --> 00:44:22.649
  • By god's mercy,
  • 00:44:22.649 --> 00:44:24.485
  • God has created this horrible pressure cooker of evil
  • 00:44:24.485 --> 00:44:28.555
  • And satanism at the top
  • 00:44:28.555 --> 00:44:31.191
  • And locking everybody in pretty much.
  • 00:44:31.191 --> 00:44:34.161
  • But what it's doing is it's revealing to the muslim,
  • 00:44:34.161 --> 00:44:39.032
  • The shia muslim people of iran,
  • 00:44:39.032 --> 00:44:41.101
  • That they don't wanna be part of shia islam.
  • 00:44:41.101 --> 00:44:45.005
  • And, but they're very religious people.
  • 00:44:45.005 --> 00:44:47.674
  • And so they are scanning the dial, as it were.
  • 00:44:47.674 --> 00:44:50.544
  • It's like they're driving across the united states
  • 00:44:50.544 --> 00:44:52.646
  • On route 66 and they're hitting scan,
  • 00:44:52.646 --> 00:44:55.282
  • And let's say they've never heard country music,
  • 00:44:55.282 --> 00:44:57.584
  • Or they've never heard, you know, whatever.
  • 00:44:57.584 --> 00:44:59.520
  • They've never heard gospel, but they found gospel.
  • 00:44:59.520 --> 00:45:02.489
  • They're finding it in satellite television,
  • 00:45:02.489 --> 00:45:04.057
  • They're finding it on the internet,
  • 00:45:04.057 --> 00:45:05.425
  • They're finding it in all kinds of different ways.
  • 00:45:05.425 --> 00:45:07.261
  • But what's happening is they're like that, that's the truth.
  • 00:45:07.261 --> 00:45:10.697
  • That's the god we wanted to know, but we didn't.
  • 00:45:10.697 --> 00:45:13.767
  • And they are, by the millions,
  • 00:45:13.767 --> 00:45:15.969
  • Converting away from radical, apocalyptic, genocidal,
  • 00:45:15.969 --> 00:45:21.275
  • You know, hamaney-esque radical islam, apocalyptic islam,
  • 00:45:22.409 --> 00:45:25.746
  • And they're turning to faith in jesus christ.
  • 00:45:25.746 --> 00:45:27.981
  • And what's ironic about this, i will say ironic,
  • 00:45:27.981 --> 00:45:30.484
  • But, you know, it is still god's mercy,
  • 00:45:30.484 --> 00:45:32.519
  • As a jew, i'm insanely jealous
  • 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:34.955
  • Of what god is doing in my worst enemy, right?
  • 00:45:34.955 --> 00:45:39.126
  • Like god is, there's only two great,
  • 00:45:39.126 --> 00:45:41.962
  • Well, there's three great spiritual awakenings
  • 00:45:41.962 --> 00:45:43.897
  • Going on in the world right now.
  • 00:45:43.897 --> 00:45:45.098
  • One is in communist china,
  • 00:45:45.098 --> 00:45:46.934
  • Where the communist chinese government
  • 00:45:46.934 --> 00:45:48.502
  • Has tried to crush the church,
  • 00:45:48.502 --> 00:45:50.537
  • And the church has grown from maybe 250,000
  • 00:45:50.537 --> 00:45:54.808
  • 30 or 40 years ago
  • 00:45:54.808 --> 00:45:56.276
  • To 100 million today. - [host] wow.
  • 00:45:56.276 --> 00:45:58.679
  • - that's extraordinary, right?
  • 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:00.948
  • Iran is the second place, where there were only a handful,
  • 00:46:00.948 --> 00:46:05.352
  • Maybe 500 known muslim converts to christ in 1979.
  • 00:46:05.352 --> 00:46:10.290
  • Today, we don't know,
  • 00:46:10.290 --> 00:46:11.892
  • We don't have an exact census or anything,
  • 00:46:11.892 --> 00:46:13.293
  • But 3 million, 4 million, 5 million, we can't say,
  • 00:46:13.293 --> 00:46:15.762
  • But millions and millions.
  • 00:46:15.762 --> 00:46:17.397
  • Brazil, which was a catholic,
  • 00:46:17.397 --> 00:46:20.701
  • Quote, unquote, "christian country,"
  • 00:46:20.701 --> 00:46:22.169
  • But not a spirit-filled, spirit-led born again nation,
  • 00:46:22.169 --> 00:46:26.707
  • We're seeing, you know, tens of millions of brazilians
  • 00:46:26.707 --> 00:46:28.842
  • Have come to faith in jesus christ.
  • 00:46:28.842 --> 00:46:30.310
  • So it's very interesting that what's going on in like,
  • 00:46:30.310 --> 00:46:34.114
  • You know, in the tel aviv to tehran corridor
  • 00:46:34.114 --> 00:46:37.184
  • Is the most dangerous place on earth right now,
  • 00:46:38.185 --> 00:46:40.854
  • Unless you live in ukraine, okay?
  • 00:46:40.854 --> 00:46:42.890
  • But, and what's happening is at one end of the corridor,
  • 00:46:42.890 --> 00:46:47.094
  • The enemy, god's spirit is pouring out.
  • 00:46:47.094 --> 00:46:50.030
  • Like if greg could go preach in the stadiums,
  • 00:46:50.030 --> 00:46:54.067
  • That the response would be huge.
  • 00:46:54.067 --> 00:46:56.236
  • But what has to happen
  • 00:46:56.236 --> 00:46:58.171
  • Is the gospel is being preached over the heads mullahs
  • 00:46:58.171 --> 00:47:01.074
  • And the government in,
  • 00:47:01.074 --> 00:47:02.676
  • You know, via satellite, television, short wave radio,
  • 00:47:02.676 --> 00:47:05.112
  • Internet and so forth.
  • 00:47:05.112 --> 00:47:06.513
  • But in israel, yeah, people are coming to faith,
  • 00:47:06.513 --> 00:47:09.716
  • And people are listening more to the gospel
  • 00:47:09.716 --> 00:47:11.852
  • Than ever before.
  • 00:47:11.852 --> 00:47:13.220
  • But you're not seeing, you know, millions of people
  • 00:47:13.220 --> 00:47:17.357
  • Coming to faith in israel.
  • 00:47:17.357 --> 00:47:18.992
  • So i'm grateful for what god's doing in iran.
  • 00:47:18.992 --> 00:47:22.429
  • I'm jealous for it as paul told me i would be.
  • 00:47:22.429 --> 00:47:26.166
  • Gentiles are coming to faith in jesus,
  • 00:47:26.166 --> 00:47:27.901
  • And i want my people to come to faith in jesus
  • 00:47:27.901 --> 00:47:30.370
  • In much larger numbers.
  • 00:47:30.370 --> 00:47:32.272
  • - joel, i'm just gonna pause here for a moment,
  • 00:47:32.272 --> 00:47:33.573
  • And i'm gonna ask greg
  • 00:47:33.573 --> 00:47:34.975
  • To pray for the people of iran (soft piano music)
  • 00:47:34.975 --> 00:47:37.744
  • 'cause jesus is showing up in dreams to people.
  • 00:47:37.744 --> 00:47:40.681
  • People are asking who is this man in white?
  • 00:47:40.681 --> 00:47:43.183
  • So let's, as god's family, let's pray
  • 00:47:43.183 --> 00:47:46.019
  • For god's will to be done.
  • 00:47:46.019 --> 00:47:47.454
  • God is not done with iran. - amen.
  • 00:47:47.454 --> 00:47:48.722
  • - would you pray for them?
  • 00:47:48.722 --> 00:47:50.023
  • - yes, father, your word says,
  • 00:47:50.023 --> 00:47:52.926
  • When the enemy comes in like a flood,
  • 00:47:52.926 --> 00:47:54.695
  • You'll raise up a standard against them.
  • 00:47:54.695 --> 00:47:56.863
  • And lord, we have seen this apocalyptic false religion
  • 00:47:56.863 --> 00:48:01.301
  • Mislead these people,
  • 00:48:01.301 --> 00:48:02.602
  • And now we're hearing of a breakthrough,
  • 00:48:02.602 --> 00:48:04.338
  • A work of your holy spirit
  • 00:48:04.338 --> 00:48:06.340
  • Reaching so many iranian, persian people,
  • 00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:09.076
  • And we pray this will continue
  • 00:48:09.076 --> 00:48:11.211
  • And that more and more will come to know you
  • 00:48:11.211 --> 00:48:13.347
  • As their savior and their lord.
  • 00:48:13.347 --> 00:48:15.082
  • And we think of joel, lord, talking about his own people,
  • 00:48:15.082 --> 00:48:18.919
  • And the scripture says,
  • 00:48:18.919 --> 00:48:20.320
  • "blindness in part has happened to israel
  • 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.389
  • Until the full gathering of the gentiles become in."
  • 00:48:22.389 --> 00:48:25.659
  • And we're seeing that full gathering happen
  • 00:48:25.659 --> 00:48:27.861
  • In places like iran and other places around the.
  • 00:48:27.861 --> 00:48:30.764
  • - the world, but lord open the eyes
  • 00:48:31.498 --> 00:48:32.466
  • Of our jewish friends as well,
  • 00:48:32.466 --> 00:48:34.267
  • And that they would see that yeshua is hamashiach.
  • 00:48:34.267 --> 00:48:37.704
  • That you are the one who can save them.
  • 00:48:37.704 --> 00:48:39.473
  • You are the one who put them in the land
  • 00:48:39.473 --> 00:48:41.842
  • And have preserved them.
  • 00:48:41.842 --> 00:48:43.710
  • And you are the one that they should be looking to now.
  • 00:48:43.710 --> 00:48:46.947
  • So we thank you lord for placing joel in israel right now,
  • 00:48:46.947 --> 00:48:50.884
  • Protect him and his wife, lynn, and his family,
  • 00:48:50.884 --> 00:48:54.154
  • And our other friends over there.
  • 00:48:54.154 --> 00:48:55.956
  • And that nation, put your hedge of protection over them.
  • 00:48:55.956 --> 00:48:59.926
  • And we are thankful, lord.
  • 00:48:59.926 --> 00:49:01.762
  • And will you tell us to pray for the peace of jerusalem?
  • 00:49:01.762 --> 00:49:04.998
  • We pray that this conflict will come to an end.
  • 00:49:04.998 --> 00:49:07.667
  • We pray that the missiles will stop flying
  • 00:49:07.667 --> 00:49:10.437
  • And that they'll have some kinda peace agreement
  • 00:49:10.437 --> 00:49:13.440
  • And that more will come to know you, the prince of peace.
  • 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:17.210
  • And we ask this in jesus' name, amen.
  • 00:49:17.210 --> 00:49:19.846
  • - amen. thank you.
  • 00:49:19.846 --> 00:49:21.281
  • Thank you, joel. - amen.
  • 00:49:21.281 --> 00:49:22.449
  • - thank you so much for joining us.
  • 00:49:22.449 --> 00:49:24.051
  • Just know that we continue to pray for you.
  • 00:49:24.051 --> 00:49:26.053
  • We pray for god's hedge of protection, as greg said,
  • 00:49:26.053 --> 00:49:28.555
  • Around you and your family.
  • 00:49:28.555 --> 00:49:29.856
  • And we love you so much.
  • 00:49:29.856 --> 00:49:32.025
  • - thank you, sheila.
  • 00:49:32.492 --> 00:49:33.326
  • Thank you, greg.
  • 00:49:33.326 --> 00:49:34.161
  • God bless you, guys.
  • 00:49:34.161 --> 00:49:34.995
  • I'm so grateful.
  • 00:49:34.995 --> 00:49:35.862
  • - yeah.
  • 00:49:35.862 --> 00:49:37.064
  • You know, we tend to think of iran.
  • 00:49:37.064 --> 00:49:38.331
  • That's the bad guy, but not the people.
  • 00:49:38.331 --> 00:49:41.334
  • The people there are coming to a place where they're like,
  • 00:49:41.334 --> 00:49:43.904
  • There has to be more than this to life.
  • 00:49:43.904 --> 00:49:46.073
  • - yes, that's right.
  • 00:49:46.073 --> 00:49:47.541
  • And you know, god often does his greatest work
  • 00:49:47.541 --> 00:49:51.511
  • In times of chaos when we can't trust in military solutions
  • 00:49:51.511 --> 00:49:56.149
  • Or political solutions and we have to look up.
  • 00:49:56.149 --> 00:49:59.086
  • You read that verse earlier
  • 00:49:59.086 --> 00:50:00.554
  • About looking to the lord from whence comes my help.
  • 00:50:00.554 --> 00:50:04.724
  • When my heart is overwhelmed, lead me to the rock
  • 00:50:04.724 --> 00:50:07.627
  • That is higher than i.
  • 00:50:07.627 --> 00:50:08.962
  • And this is a time in the history
  • 00:50:08.962 --> 00:50:11.631
  • Of our friends over in the middle east
  • 00:50:11.631 --> 00:50:13.166
  • That they need to be doing that,
  • 00:50:13.166 --> 00:50:14.468
  • But we need to be doing that in america as well.
  • 00:50:14.468 --> 00:50:16.703
  • - [sheila] yeah.
  • 00:50:16.703 --> 00:50:17.571
  • - looking to the lord.
  • 00:50:17.571 --> 00:50:18.705
  • He is the one that has the answers.
  • 00:50:18.705 --> 00:50:20.307
  • You know, years ago, my wife was putting a puzzle together
  • 00:50:20.307 --> 00:50:23.810
  • And she had it all done, but she'd lost the final piece.
  • 00:50:23.810 --> 00:50:27.747
  • - [sheila] oh. - and said, "greg, help me."
  • 00:50:27.747 --> 00:50:28.748
  • And we searched and found it.
  • 00:50:28.748 --> 00:50:30.484
  • And i feel like god is holding that piece we're looking for,
  • 00:50:30.484 --> 00:50:33.653
  • And he's just waiting for us to look up
  • 00:50:33.653 --> 00:50:35.522
  • - [sheila] wow. - and say, "lord, help us."
  • 00:50:35.522 --> 00:50:37.057
  • - wow. beautiful.
  • 00:50:37.057 --> 00:50:38.658
  • We are now gonna be joined by one of my dear friends
  • 00:50:38.658 --> 00:50:42.028
  • Who actually was gonna be in the studio with us,
  • 00:50:42.028 --> 00:50:44.097
  • But he's actually in europe at the moment.
  • 00:50:44.097 --> 00:50:45.799
  • But rabbi jason sobel was kind enough
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  • To spend a few minutes with us.
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  • Rabbi, thank you for joining us.
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  • - shalom, sheila, it's always great to be with you.
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  • We are living in biblical times,
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  • Absolutely incredible what is happening with israel
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  • And iran and the us involvement
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  • Of bombing the nuclear facilities.
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  • These are really prophetic times.
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  • And it's so interesting.
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  • There is this idea in jewish thought that we need to learn
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  • To live with the times and the seasons.
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  • And what's interesting is that
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  • As we entered into this new biblical year,
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  • This past fall, which on the hebrew calendar
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  • Is the year 5785.
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  • It is the year of the hey according
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  • To a jewish hebraic understanding.
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  • And what's interesting is that 85 is a numerical value
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  • Of the hebrew word, bitachon, which means trust or security.
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  • I said, this is going to be a year
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  • Where israel finds itself with a greater degree of security
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  • Than it's ever experienced in its history.
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  • And what's interesting is that the word bitachon,
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  • We read about it in psalm 112, it says,
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  • "his heart trusts in the lord.
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  • He shall not be afraid.
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  • Blessed is he who trusts in the lord.
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  • And the lord shall be his trust," jeremiah 17:7.
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  • Security is based upon whom you put your trust in.
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  • Right? some put their trust in chariots,
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  • But we put our trust in the name of the lord.
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  • And what's so interesting about that
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  • Is what we read in the book of ezekiel.
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  • In the book of ezekiel,
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  • We know there is this famous war
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  • Called the war of gog and magog.
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  • And in that ezekiel 38 passage, it talks about,
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  • Uses that same word
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  • That israel (speaks in foreign language),
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  • Israel will dwell securely in their land
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  • That are unwalled, meaning without defenses.
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  • Only then can the war of gog and magog
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  • And all of these end time's events
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  • Actually unfold and occur.
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  • And so i think that is so significant
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  • Because one of the reasons why i said israel
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  • Was gonna have to dwell securely in the season is
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  • Because the clock, the prophetic clock, counting down
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  • To the return of the messiah is accelerating. (chuckles)
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  • But israel has never dwelt securely in its.
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  • - and you know, think about it,
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  • They've always needed this defenses.
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  • And the greatest existential threat to israel has been iran.
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  • And so i really felt that based upon the meaning
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  • Of the year, based upon what i prayed into,
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  • That god was gonna have to bring this security,
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  • Which is the number 85, the year that we're in to israel
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  • Because there has to be a time of peace for israel.
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  • And i believe this is gonna lead to the expansion
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  • Of the abraham accords, a time of peace.
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  • But it's only gonna last for a season.
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  • And then it's gonna get even worse than before.
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  • But we'll take it for now.
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  • And i think what is true for israel is true for us.
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  • This is a time to possess our promise,
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  • To put our faith in god.
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  • Not to live in fear, but to live by trust in him.
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  • And so i think i just want to take,
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  • I just wanna take a moment and pray for israel.
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  • Abba father, i just say (speaks in foreign language)
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  • You are our king, helper, savior, shield.
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  • This could not have been done without you.
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  • (speaks in foreign language) god, you are mighty to save.
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  • Your power is beyond our understanding.
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  • We pray god for a time of peace and prosperity for israel,
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  • For the iranians, for the palestinians.
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  • We pray that you would show yourself strong and mighty,
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  • We pray against any retaliation against iran,
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  • From iran to israel, from iran to the united states,
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  • Protection over america, protection over israel,
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  • Protection over the middle east, yeshua, jesus,
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  • You are sar shalom, you are the prince of peace.
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  • Shalom is more than the absence of conflict,
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  • It's nothing missing, nothing broken.
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  • And so we say, (speaks in foreign language)
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  • May you bless and keep israel.
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  • May you bless and keep america.
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  • May you cause your face to shine on us.
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  • May you protect us and may you give us shalom.
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  • In the name of the prince of peace, jesus our messiah.
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  • Nothing missing, nothing broken.
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  • It's in his name we pray, amen.
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  • - amen. amen. thank you so much my friend.
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  • You know, greg, we've only got about a minute left,
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  • But i would love for you to pray
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  • For protection over our military,
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  • Over our men and women
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  • Who are serving faithfully that god
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  • Would watch over them. - let's pray.
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  • Father, we pray for the courageous men and women
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  • That serve us in the united states military.
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  • And we think of those that serve
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  • In the israeli military as well.
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  • Would you protect them? would you watch over them?
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  • Would you guide them, lord?
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  • You actually tell us in scripture
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  • That they don't bear the sword in vain.
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  • And so we do pray that you will help them do the job
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  • That they need to do, and protect our homeland,
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  • Protect the nation of israel, and watch over all of us.
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  • And we pray, lord, that many people will turn
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  • To you right now in this time of chaos,
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  • Which may appear chaos, but you're ultimately in control.
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  • Help us to look to you, the almighty god,
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  • The one who loves us so much.
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  • You sent your only son, jesus christ,
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  • To die on the cross for our sin
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  • And to rise again from the dead.
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  • And if we will call upon the name of the lord,
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  • We will be saved.
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  • Help many to do that now.
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  • And we ask it all in jesus' name. amen.
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  • - amen, greg, thank you so much
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  • For being with me. - my pleasure.
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  • - just awesome to have you here.
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  • And for those of you at home, let's become, in these days,
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  • People of prayer.
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  • So often we think it's the last thing we can do,
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  • No, it's the first thing we can do.
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  • Let's become people of prayer, people of the word of god,
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  • And people sharing the hope
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  • That is within us. - amen.
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  • - from all of us here at tbn, we love you
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  • And we'll see you next time.
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  • (gentle music)
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