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Praise | A Night of Prayer for Israel | Praise | June 24, 2025
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- - [narrator] coming up tonight on "praise."
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- - it's wednesday, june the 25th.
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- As you know, the past few days
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- We have seen such a tumultuous situation in the middle east
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- With the war between iran and israel.
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- At the moment, as we are on the air,
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- It seems there is a provisional peace, a ceasefire in place.
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- Tonight, would you join us for a night of prayer
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- As we pray that that peace will endure?
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- Welcome to this special edition of "praise."
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- Tonight, we are dedicating this hour to prayer,
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- To pray for those in israel,
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- To pray for everyone in the middle east,
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- To pray for our military, for our men and women,
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- That they would be protected by god's right hand,
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- But also to pray for you.
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- These are not days to live in fear.
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- When we understand
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- That no matter what is going on in the world,
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- Nothing is a surprise to the lord.
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- God is still on the throne.
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- God is in control.
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- In fact, i was reading this, this morning,
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- And i wanted to read it to you.
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- It's one of my favorite psalms.
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- Psalm 121 says this:
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- "i look up to the mountains,
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- Does my help come from there?
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- My help comes from the lord who made heaven and earth!
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- He will not let you stumble.
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- The one who watches over you will not slumber.
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- Indeed, he who watches over israel,
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- Neither slumbers nor sleeps.
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- The lord himself watches over you!
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- The lord stands beside you as your protective shade.
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- The sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon at night.
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- The lord keeps you from all harm
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- And watches over your life.
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- The lord keeps watch over you as you come and go,
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- Both now and forever."
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- These are days...
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- Remember in 1 peter where it says,
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- "always be ready to give an explanation
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- For the hope that is within you"?
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- These are days to be, those who are living
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- With very clear, unfiltered view of hope,
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- So that people will want to know
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- When everything else appears to be falling apart,
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- You don't seem that way.
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- So, exciting days to be alive.
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- Tonight i'm going to be joined
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- By pastors in the studio and also by zoom
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- And also by some of our friends in israel,
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- To give us an up-to-date,
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- On-the-ground idea of what's going on.
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- In fact, the first guest that i'm gonna talk to
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- Is somebody that i met on my very first time in israel,
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- And i have this beautiful picture of
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- The two of us sitting on,
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- The mountain where jesus gave the beatitudes.
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- He was playing his guitar and we were worshiping together.
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- Now he's in uniform and has been for over 600 days.
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- His name chaim malespin.
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- And i just wanna say welcome my friend.
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- It is so good to see you.
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- How are you doing?
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- - well, like my uniform, i'm worn.
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- All of us soldiers are worn, 626 days,
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- But we hold onto that psalm you just read psalms 121,
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- He does watch over us in every aspect of this battle,
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- Which isn't just now with iran,
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- But even against hezbollah, and even hamas,
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- And i'm still okay and my injuries are.
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- - ... for minor.
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- And, but yes, god's watching over us.
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- I have had to bury friends.
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- But god is on the throne and he is watching over his land.
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- - chaim, let me ask you, because you, as you say,
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- You've been in this for so long, day after day,
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- You are a man in charge of other men.
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- What do you do when you get discouraged?
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- - yeah, it's a very good question.
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- I have a little secret weapon.
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- I have inside my little, the zipper here of my uniform,
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- I will put verses there just like the one-
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- - wow. - ... and that you've read.
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- And i'll read those if i have a minute out there on a tank
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- And actually i do even these little videos
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- From inside gaza, inside lebanon, my guys are in syria,
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- They wanted to deploy us to iran
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- If america hadn't stepped in. - wow.
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- - to be able to go by foot
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- And literally go into...
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- So these were some things that were being considered.
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- But i'll read those
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- And i'll read them on camera at aliyah return center,
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- It's our charity.
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- And people watch these videos
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- And i'm able to encourage my men and many others
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- Around the world.
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- - it was wonderful for me
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- To learn a little bit more about aliyah return center.
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- Tell people what you do through this work, it's phenomenal.
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- - right, you know, it's not just the psalms 23 says,
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- "your rod and your staff," in this case would be a glock 19
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- And a m4 flattop.
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- But the rod and the staff, they comfort me.
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- We do have to be good shepherds.
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- We do have to defend the flocks of the house of israel.
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- We can't just feed them.
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- We have to rescue them from the mouth of the wolf.
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- And if they're pulled into the wolf's layer,
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- In this case a hamas tunnel,
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- We have to go in and rescue them.
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- But yes, you're right.
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- I'm also the chairman, executive director of a charity,
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- A ministry called aliyah return center.
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- And essentially we help arabic and hebrew-speaking people,
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- The needy people, food, clothing, shelter.
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- But especially we help aliyah
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- Is those who have returned home,
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- Jewish people who've made their immigration,
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- Their aliyah fulfilling 700 scriptures, you know, 700 club.
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- I think that god has a 700 club of scriptures,
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- Which talk about he's gathering his jewish people back home.
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- And so we give them that hebrew training,
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- That the hebrew school job training.
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- And now of course we've kicked into action
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- To help these families who have their house bombed out.
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- So we're able to give them all kinds of essentials
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- That they need right now.
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- And people around the world are helping us
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- With this campaign.
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- And, but i walked through the rubble in ramat gan,
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- Walked through bat yam, the rubble of the blown up houses.
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- And that's from one- - wow.
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- - ... ballistic missile.
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- And that, and you see them in the sky.
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- I see them in the sky.
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- I don't always have a bomb shelter being in the army.
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- Right now, at this current moment,
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- I'm near a bomb shelter.
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- But when i'm out in the field, i don't have a bomb shelter.
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- And so you see these missiles
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- And imagine if it wasn't the 99, 98% that were taken out,
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- What if it was 80%?
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- What if it was 70%?
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- You know, this country could be leveled, the buildings.
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- And, but i remember in tel aviv downtown,
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- I saw some massive destruction
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- And i talked to the security guard there
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- And i said, "how many people died in this one?"
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- 'cause it's total of what, 24 people i believe to-date.
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- I said, "how many people died in this?"
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- I'm talking buildings, just all the windows blown out
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- And rubble everywhere.
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- And he said, "not one."
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- - wow. - i was like, "is that right?"
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- - wow. - and he said, "every time
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- It's like either we're in a bomb shelter and that was okay,
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- Or we're in..."
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- Just, they happened to empty out that floor of the hospital
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- Or they just happen...
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- It's so many coincidences that it's not a coincidence.
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- - wow. - god is doing
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- What you just quoted in psalms 1:21.
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- - you know, here at tbn and all of us here in the states,
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- We love you and we pray continually for israel.
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- Chaim, tell us how can we pray for you in these days?
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- - yeah, well, i would say definitely, you know,
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- I was reading also just now in isaiah 5:20
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- And you have this verse, you know,
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- It's a warning, it's a warning.
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- "woe to those who call evil, good, good evil,
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- Who put darkness for light and light for darkness,
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- Put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
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- I thought of that and i said, "man, you know, yeshua said,
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- 'do not be deceived.
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- Do not be deceived.'"
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- And i see attacks happening
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- That aren't just ballistic missiles.
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- That's what i'm seeing.
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- And your friends, my friends are people
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- Who understand the promises of god,
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- Who can open up romans chapter 11 and who can read,
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- "god has a plan for israel."
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- No matter what the enemy wants to do,
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- No matter what the enemy wants to deceive,
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- We will not be deceived.
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- But i see that there is a very concerted effort in this war
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- To try to mess with and deceive even the young people,
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- Even through tiktok and instagram.
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- And so what i'd say is if you could really pray
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- Not only for victory that we've...
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- - find the rest of the 50 hostages.
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- 30 of them have already been deceased.
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- 30 are no longer living for, to what our understanding,
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- And i'm an eod, explosive ordinance disposal.
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- I'm a special operations engineering unit.
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- So i'm in the tunnels all the time.
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- - [reporter] wow. - and i'm going
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- Actually in a few hours back.
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- But my prayer's not just that we find the hostages,
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- Not just that we have victory,
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- But for a change of heart.
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- That's number one.
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- Change, victory,
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- Change of heart of our enemies.
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- Because military, you gotta be a good shepherd.
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- You've gotta defend the flock,
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- But they need to have a change of heart
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- And say, "wait a minute, the way we're going is not good."
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- And what i'm saying is number three,
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- The battle over those who, yeah,
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- The word zionist, that's someone who's standing
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- On the word of god for israel to be here
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- And from the jordan river to the mediterranean sea.
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- - yes.
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- - that the jewish people get to live here.
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- Not that we all are gone,
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- Dead or destroyed in a nuclear blast.
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- So my prayer is for that number three,
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- That those zionists,
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- Those christian zionists,
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- Those who stand for the word of god and the covenants,
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- Yes, god has great blessings over every believer,
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- But he also has a plan for this land, this people.
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- - [reporter] yes. - and the destiny,
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- Which is all gonna come together
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- In a beautiful crescendo
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- Of prophecy being fulfilled.
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- Now, i just wanna say this is,
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- I think that our ambassador academy.
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- You know, the school we have that trains people
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- Here in the land and online,
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- We're trying to launch an online thing,
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- That it's not a nice to have.
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- It's like a must.
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- - [reporter] hmm.
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- - i mean, if people don't get god's heart for israel,
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- They'll be, they'll be, they'll go through,
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- They'll be almost,
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- They could have, there's a chance
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- That even the very elect could be deceived.
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- - [reporter] mm, mm. - you know?
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- So that's kind of what,
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- And yeshua, jesus said, yeshua said,
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- Do not be deceived in matthew, what was it, matthew 24?
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- So that's my, those are my main prayer requests.
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- And really, as i go back into gaza right now,
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- Just that all of my team
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- And all of the, all the soldiers that are a bit tired,
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- A bit worn. - yeah.
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- - i would say, you know,
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- What i would say is this declaration almost,
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- That lion rising, you know,
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- Numbers chapter 23, verse 24 and 25.
- 00:10:43.833 --> 00:10:47.570
- 23, 24, 25, easy to remember.
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- And lion rising, i'm telling you,
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- The lion of judah. - amen.
- 00:10:51.774 --> 00:10:53.175
- - is rising. - amen.
- 00:10:53.175 --> 00:10:54.477
- - the lion of judah is roaring.
- 00:10:54.477 --> 00:10:55.745
- And that's causing so many people
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- To feel the sense of spirituality.
- 00:10:57.413 --> 00:11:00.783
- This isn't just, you know, it doesn't make,
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- Let me just say this, it doesn't make sense.
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- If you have haman in persia, in iran.
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- Haman, now haman could have said, you know,
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- I don't like mordecai.
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- I'm used to people bowing down to me.
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- You know the story of esther, the book of esther?
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- And i'm used to people bowing down to me.
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- Mordecai didn't bow down to me.
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- I'm gonna get him.
- 00:11:21.036 --> 00:11:22.171
- You know, that would make sense.
- 00:11:22.171 --> 00:11:23.172
- He's this big shot,
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- And he wants people to bow him.
- 00:11:24.173 --> 00:11:25.841
- But what doesn't make sense is what he did.
- 00:11:25.841 --> 00:11:27.977
- He cast lots into this.
- 00:11:27.977 --> 00:11:30.613
- You know, he looked into the spiritual realm.
- 00:11:30.613 --> 00:11:32.481
- He sought to destroy every jewish person
- 00:11:32.481 --> 00:11:35.284
- And persian empire is very big.
- 00:11:35.284 --> 00:11:37.686
- That's a lot of work.
- 00:11:37.686 --> 00:11:39.455
- What did a jewish person
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- In the african part of the persian empire,
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- In the european part of it,
- 00:11:42.925 --> 00:11:44.226
- In all of, what did they do to you, haman?
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- The same marching orders you see with hitler,
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- With pharaoh, with herod,
- 00:11:49.064 --> 00:11:50.699
- With this diabolical death to america,
- 00:11:50.699 --> 00:11:54.203
- Death to israel in iran that we see.
- 00:11:54.203 --> 00:11:56.272
- But that doesn't have to be their destiny.
- 00:11:56.272 --> 00:11:58.240
- They can choose you this day.
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- They can choose,
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- Not haman, but cyrus.
- 00:12:02.244 --> 00:12:03.512
- - yeah, yeah. - cyrus also was persian.
- 00:12:03.512 --> 00:12:05.247
- So that's, that's my belief is they can choose
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- And they will choose. - okay, chaim.
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- We love you.
- 00:12:09.418 --> 00:12:11.020
- We will continue to pray for you,
- 00:12:11.020 --> 00:12:12.254
- To pray for god's protection over you.
- 00:12:12.254 --> 00:12:14.490
- And thank you so much for joining us, my friend.
- 00:12:14.490 --> 00:12:17.226
- We love you.
- 00:12:17.226 --> 00:12:18.627
- - it's always good to see you.
- 00:12:19.261 --> 00:12:20.696
- Say hi to barry for me.
- 00:12:20.696 --> 00:12:21.764
- - i will. - i love that guy.
- 00:12:21.764 --> 00:12:22.832
- - i will.
- 00:12:22.832 --> 00:12:24.033
- - and so good seeing you as well.
- 00:12:24.033 --> 00:12:25.701
- - thank you, chaim.
- 00:12:25.701 --> 00:12:27.303
- So let me just ask those of you who are at home right now,
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- You heard chaim saying, please pray.
- 00:12:29.271 --> 00:12:31.607
- So let's just pause right here and right now.
- 00:12:31.607 --> 00:12:34.276
- And i'm joined actually
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- By one of, one of my favorite people on the planet.
- 00:12:35.878 --> 00:12:39.181
- Barry and i adore greg, pastor greg lorrie.
- 00:12:39.181 --> 00:12:42.484
- I'm so glad you're here.
- 00:12:42.484 --> 00:12:44.353
- Your wisdom throughout the years is phenomenal.
- 00:12:45.287 --> 00:12:48.557
- But listening to our brother there
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- And what he shared, greg,
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- I would love if you would pray for the things that.
- 00:12:51.861 --> 00:12:53.963
- - yes. - that chaim
- 00:12:53.963 --> 00:12:55.197
- Asked us to pray for.
- 00:12:55.197 --> 00:12:56.432
- - well, first i have to determine
- 00:12:56.432 --> 00:12:58.033
- If i can say his name properly.
- 00:12:58.033 --> 00:12:59.635
- (reporter laughs) chaim?
- 00:12:59.635 --> 00:13:01.103
- - [reporter] chaim.
- 00:13:01.103 --> 00:13:02.371
- - little chaim, all right.
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- Let's pray.
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- Father, we thank you for chaim,
- 00:13:05.474 --> 00:13:07.610
- And we thank you, lord,
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- That he is a bright light in a very difficult situation.
- 00:13:09.645 --> 00:13:12.514
- Literally defending lives,
- 00:13:12.514 --> 00:13:14.984
- Yet at the same time,
- 00:13:14.984 --> 00:13:16.285
- Wanting to save them and point them to yeshua.
- 00:13:16.285 --> 00:13:20.122
- - yeah. - and we pray
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- For your protection over him.
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- We pray that you will open doors of opportunity for him.
- 00:13:22.992 --> 00:13:26.395
- We pray that you'll use him for your glory.
- 00:13:26.395 --> 00:13:29.298
- We pray for the other troops.
- 00:13:29.298 --> 00:13:31.000
- - serving with them as well that you would watch over them.
- 00:13:32.167 --> 00:13:33.636
- Yes, israel has the iron dome and that's great.
- 00:13:33.636 --> 00:13:37.006
- But lord, we're praying for a supernatural hedge
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- Of protection over them as well from your angels.
- 00:13:40.075 --> 00:13:43.279
- So, we commit 'em to you and we thank you for him.
- 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:47.383
- In jesus' name we pray. amen.
- 00:13:47.383 --> 00:13:50.519
- - it's just listening to haim
- 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:52.454
- And watching him there. - yeah.
- 00:13:52.454 --> 00:13:53.856
- - and knowing, i can't imagine when that's like,
- 00:13:53.856 --> 00:13:56.058
- 600 and something days- - yep.
- 00:13:56.058 --> 00:13:57.660
- - of constantly being there. - wow.
- 00:13:57.660 --> 00:13:59.995
- - we often talk about in our culture
- 00:13:59.995 --> 00:14:02.464
- Of where were you when such and such
- 00:14:02.464 --> 00:14:04.366
- A thing happened? - yes.
- 00:14:04.366 --> 00:14:05.801
- - i wanted to ask you, where were you when you heard
- 00:14:05.801 --> 00:14:08.237
- What had happened on saturday night?
- 00:14:08.237 --> 00:14:10.940
- When you know that president trump had responded?
- 00:14:10.940 --> 00:14:12.875
- - yeah, i was actually watching a television program
- 00:14:12.875 --> 00:14:16.078
- And i get a text, i get a call from matt crouch.
- 00:14:16.078 --> 00:14:19.782
- And then, i called him back and he says,
- 00:14:19.782 --> 00:14:23.652
- "are you watching the news right now?"
- 00:14:23.652 --> 00:14:25.187
- I said, "no, i'm watching some show
- 00:14:25.187 --> 00:14:27.156
- With conan o'brien of all things."
- 00:14:27.156 --> 00:14:29.391
- And he says, "turn on the news."
- 00:14:29.391 --> 00:14:30.893
- I turn on the news.
- 00:14:30.893 --> 00:14:32.194
- I did believe that the president
- 00:14:32.194 --> 00:14:35.264
- Was going to do this all along, but i just didn't know when.
- 00:14:35.264 --> 00:14:38.801
- So, it wasn't surprising to me.
- 00:14:38.801 --> 00:14:41.136
- But it was an amazing operation.
- 00:14:41.136 --> 00:14:42.972
- They've been planning for some time as we all know now.
- 00:14:42.972 --> 00:14:46.141
- Completely successful.
- 00:14:46.141 --> 00:14:48.110
- We're thankful that, you know,
- 00:14:48.110 --> 00:14:49.311
- 'cause things could have gone wrong.
- 00:14:49.311 --> 00:14:50.646
- - oh yeah. - we've seen things
- 00:14:50.646 --> 00:14:51.580
- Go wrong in military operations.
- 00:14:51.580 --> 00:14:53.983
- We can't, you know, things break down.
- 00:14:53.983 --> 00:14:56.251
- Other unexpected things happen.
- 00:14:56.251 --> 00:14:57.987
- But this worked so well.
- 00:14:57.987 --> 00:14:59.455
- And what struck me was when the president
- 00:14:59.455 --> 00:15:01.890
- Finally spoke to us and he thanked the military.
- 00:15:01.890 --> 00:15:04.660
- He thanked the israelis who were cooperating.
- 00:15:04.660 --> 00:15:07.262
- But then, and he thanked god, of course.
- 00:15:07.262 --> 00:15:09.298
- But then he said, "we love you god."
- 00:15:09.298 --> 00:15:10.699
- - i know. i know. - and i was struck by that.
- 00:15:10.699 --> 00:15:13.435
- And he sort of choked up.
- 00:15:13.435 --> 00:15:15.070
- And you know, i've had the privilege
- 00:15:15.070 --> 00:15:16.739
- To be with the president in smaller settings.
- 00:15:16.739 --> 00:15:19.408
- And i think god is really at work in his heart.
- 00:15:19.408 --> 00:15:22.678
- And i've seen that he welcomes prayer.
- 00:15:22.678 --> 00:15:25.881
- We've prayed for him many times in the oval office.
- 00:15:25.881 --> 00:15:28.550
- Now, i don't think we can even begin to imagine, sheila,
- 00:15:28.550 --> 00:15:31.453
- What it's like to sit behind
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- That old resolute desk in the oval office
- 00:15:32.988 --> 00:15:35.991
- With really the weight of the world on your shoulders.
- 00:15:35.991 --> 00:15:38.360
- And i think he recognizes he needs god's help.
- 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.630
- And he's very quick to acknowledge that
- 00:15:41.630 --> 00:15:43.599
- God spared his life
- 00:15:43.599 --> 00:15:44.933
- From an assassin's bullet. - absolutely.
- 00:15:44.933 --> 00:15:46.902
- - and so, and you know, these other,
- 00:15:46.902 --> 00:15:49.304
- And he's surrounded with people of faith.
- 00:15:49.304 --> 00:15:51.640
- Kathy and i have gotten to know
- 00:15:51.640 --> 00:15:52.908
- Marco and jeanette rubio quite well.
- 00:15:52.908 --> 00:15:55.010
- We met them 10 years ago at a couple's conference.
- 00:15:55.010 --> 00:15:58.547
- And i believe marco
- 00:15:58.547 --> 00:15:59.848
- Is so just perfect for this job right now,
- 00:15:59.848 --> 00:16:02.885
- As is the secretary of defense,
- 00:16:02.885 --> 00:16:05.354
- And our good friend mike huckabee
- 00:16:05.354 --> 00:16:07.589
- Serving over there as our ambassador to israel.
- 00:16:07.589 --> 00:16:10.459
- So many great people in the right positions.
- 00:16:10.459 --> 00:16:13.695
- And as haim was saying, you know,
- 00:16:13.695 --> 00:16:15.964
- How god raised up queen esther for such a time as this.
- 00:16:15.964 --> 00:16:19.735
- I believe the lord has done the same thing in our government
- 00:16:19.735 --> 00:16:23.038
- And in other strategic places to help with godly counsel
- 00:16:23.038 --> 00:16:28.377
- As well as counsel on military affairs
- 00:16:29.211 --> 00:16:31.080
- And other things that are involved in this.
- 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.916
- - i find myself, when i watch the news
- 00:16:33.916 --> 00:16:35.684
- And try to keep abreast of everything that's happened,
- 00:16:35.684 --> 00:16:38.353
- I feel like i almost want to take a step back
- 00:16:38.353 --> 00:16:40.355
- To the bigger picture. - yeah. yeah.
- 00:16:40.355 --> 00:16:41.990
- - of what god is doing-
- 00:16:41.990 --> 00:16:43.559
- - yes. - in the world.
- 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:44.993
- Rather than just one nation against another nation
- 00:16:44.993 --> 00:16:46.695
- Or one- - that's right.
- 00:16:46.695 --> 00:16:47.596
- - political party against
- 00:16:47.596 --> 00:16:48.597
- Another political party. - right.
- 00:16:48.597 --> 00:16:49.798
- - the whole point of why jesus came.
- 00:16:49.798 --> 00:16:51.700
- What do you sense in your spirit-
- 00:16:51.700 --> 00:16:53.202
- - yes. - that god is doing?
- 00:16:53.202 --> 00:16:54.436
- - well, i think of the story of jonah.
- 00:16:54.436 --> 00:16:57.106
- You know, imagine god going to an israeli like haim,
- 00:16:57.106 --> 00:17:01.310
- And saying, "go to iran and preach the gospel."
- 00:17:01.310 --> 00:17:04.780
- - yeah. - that's what it
- 00:17:04.780 --> 00:17:05.714
- Would've been like to be jonah.
- 00:17:05.714 --> 00:17:07.349
- - yeah. - going and preaching
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- To the people of nineveh.
- 00:17:09.084 --> 00:17:10.652
- They were the enemies of israel.
- 00:17:10.652 --> 00:17:12.287
- They were known for their cruelty.
- 00:17:12.287 --> 00:17:14.857
- And yet jonah, he drug his feet at first.
- 00:17:14.857 --> 00:17:18.193
- Basically to sum up the book of jonah,
- 00:17:18.193 --> 00:17:20.028
- God said, "go." jonah said, "no."
- 00:17:20.028 --> 00:17:22.698
- God said, "oh?"
- 00:17:22.698 --> 00:17:24.066
- (sheila laughs)
- 00:17:24.066 --> 00:17:25.234
- God will always have the last word.
- 00:17:25.234 --> 00:17:26.535
- You might say jonah was the original
- 00:17:26.535 --> 00:17:28.470
- Chicken of the sea, right?
- 00:17:28.470 --> 00:17:30.105
- He didn't wanna do it.
- 00:17:30.105 --> 00:17:31.640
- But he finally came around after some friendly persuasion
- 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.443
- From the lord that happened to involve
- 00:17:34.443 --> 00:17:36.478
- A great fish or a whale.
- 00:17:36.478 --> 00:17:38.247
- But when he finally did obey, and really the story of jonah
- 00:17:38.247 --> 00:17:40.549
- Is not about a fish or a whale.
- 00:17:40.549 --> 00:17:42.618
- Only a few verses deal with that.
- 00:17:42.618 --> 00:17:44.820
- People sort of fixate on that aspect of the story.
- 00:17:44.820 --> 00:17:47.122
- The story of jonah is a man who didn't wanna do something,
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- Who finally did it,
- 00:17:51.326 --> 00:17:52.594
- And the result was a spiritual awakening
- 00:17:52.594 --> 00:17:55.063
- And a nation was saved.
- 00:17:55.063 --> 00:17:56.632
- And we've heard of amazing things happening in iran.
- 00:17:56.632 --> 00:18:00.836
- That god is at work despite the iron fist hold on the nation
- 00:18:00.836 --> 00:18:06.108
- That the mullah seem to have.
- 00:18:06.742 --> 00:18:08.343
- God is changing lives.
- 00:18:08.343 --> 00:18:09.878
- People are coming to faith in jesus christ.
- 00:18:09.878 --> 00:18:12.414
- And i think people need to know, when we talk about iran,
- 00:18:12.414 --> 00:18:15.551
- We're not talking about the people of iran.
- 00:18:15.551 --> 00:18:18.387
- - no. - the persian people.
- 00:18:18.387 --> 00:18:19.855
- The wonderful people.
- 00:18:19.855 --> 00:18:21.723
- And we've mentioned how they play key roles
- 00:18:21.723 --> 00:18:24.560
- In scripture throughout our history.
- 00:18:24.560 --> 00:18:27.129
- And god is at work in their hearts as well.
- 00:18:27.129 --> 00:18:30.032
- - and so we just prayed
- 00:18:30.532 --> 00:18:31.967
- That they do have a spiritual awakening in persia,
- 00:18:31.967 --> 00:18:34.770
- It was called persia until 1935, in iran,
- 00:18:35.637 --> 00:18:38.340
- And that many come to christ.
- 00:18:38.340 --> 00:18:40.075
- And so this is the thing we wanna remember as christians,
- 00:18:40.075 --> 00:18:43.345
- Is we want to love our enemies.
- 00:18:43.345 --> 00:18:46.181
- Now we have to defend ourselves, and there's a place
- 00:18:46.181 --> 00:18:48.750
- For national borders. - sure.
- 00:18:48.750 --> 00:18:50.219
- - there's a place for self-defense.
- 00:18:50.219 --> 00:18:52.287
- There's a place for us defending the innocent.
- 00:18:52.287 --> 00:18:55.457
- And certainly when a nation says,
- 00:18:55.457 --> 00:18:57.192
- "we want to enrich uranium to develop a nuclear weapon
- 00:18:57.192 --> 00:19:01.296
- To destroy israel and wipe them off the face of the earth,
- 00:19:01.296 --> 00:19:04.533
- And wipe off america as well,"
- 00:19:04.533 --> 00:19:06.268
- We have to take that seriously and we have.
- 00:19:06.268 --> 00:19:08.770
- But having said that, we wanna also look for opportunities
- 00:19:08.770 --> 00:19:13.308
- To point people to christ
- 00:19:13.308 --> 00:19:15.177
- And get the gospel in there as well.
- 00:19:15.177 --> 00:19:17.412
- - 'cause i think these are days not to be cowering in fear.
- 00:19:17.412 --> 00:19:21.016
- - no. - but days to step up.
- 00:19:21.016 --> 00:19:23.252
- I wonder if you'd address that, the number of believers
- 00:19:24.386 --> 00:19:26.555
- Who are just like, "oh gosh, what's gonna happen?
- 00:19:26.555 --> 00:19:28.290
- The world is falling apart." - yes.
- 00:19:28.290 --> 00:19:29.891
- - how do we live in these days?
- 00:19:29.891 --> 00:19:31.927
- - yeah, well jesus said,
- 00:19:31.927 --> 00:19:33.195
- "when you see these things begin to happen,
- 00:19:33.195 --> 00:19:34.863
- Freak out because you're all going to die."
- 00:19:34.863 --> 00:19:37.132
- (sheila laughing) no, he didn't say that,
- 00:19:37.132 --> 00:19:38.367
- Did he? - no.
- 00:19:38.367 --> 00:19:39.801
- - he said, "when you see these things begin to happen,
- 00:19:39.801 --> 00:19:41.570
- Look up, for your redemption draws near."
- 00:19:41.570 --> 00:19:44.306
- Jesus said in john 14, "let not your heart be troubled,
- 00:19:44.306 --> 00:19:48.143
- Neither let it be afraid.
- 00:19:48.143 --> 00:19:49.678
- Believe in god. you believe in god, believe also in me.
- 00:19:49.678 --> 00:19:52.547
- In my father's house are many mansions,
- 00:19:52.547 --> 00:19:54.683
- If it were not so, i would've told you.
- 00:19:54.683 --> 00:19:56.652
- I will come again and receive you unto myself,
- 00:19:56.652 --> 00:20:00.022
- That where i am, you may be also."
- 00:20:00.022 --> 00:20:02.291
- So he actually addresses this.
- 00:20:02.291 --> 00:20:04.626
- "i'm coming again," he's saying.
- 00:20:04.626 --> 00:20:06.528
- We don't know when he'll come again,
- 00:20:06.528 --> 00:20:08.797
- But his coming is close.
- 00:20:08.797 --> 00:20:10.465
- It can happen at any moment, that's in god's hands.
- 00:20:10.465 --> 00:20:13.001
- No one knows the day or the hour, so we want to be ready.
- 00:20:13.001 --> 00:20:16.238
- But in the interim, as we're waiting, he does say,
- 00:20:16.238 --> 00:20:19.441
- "let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."
- 00:20:19.441 --> 00:20:22.110
- And in fact, i think this is a moment
- 00:20:22.110 --> 00:20:24.279
- Where the christian can step into this situation
- 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:27.516
- And talk to people around us who are afraid.
- 00:20:27.516 --> 00:20:30.052
- Because you read about armageddon is coming,
- 00:20:30.052 --> 00:20:32.821
- World war iii is coming,
- 00:20:32.821 --> 00:20:35.223
- All of these things are gonna happen.
- 00:20:35.223 --> 00:20:37.292
- Well look, we don't know exactly what is coming,
- 00:20:37.292 --> 00:20:39.695
- Except we know jesus is coming,
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- And we know that he can bring into the human heart a peace
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- That passes all human understanding.
- 00:20:45.100 --> 00:20:47.803
- So i think this is a moment for us, as believers,
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- To step into the gap and share the gospel with people.
- 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:54.042
- And shameless plug for something we're doing, sheila.
- 00:20:54.042 --> 00:20:56.845
- - tell us about harvest.
- 00:20:56.845 --> 00:20:58.313
- - yes, we're going to angel stadium on july 19th,
- 00:20:58.313 --> 00:21:01.316
- And we've been proclaiming the gospel in this stadium
- 00:21:01.316 --> 00:21:04.319
- For 35 years now. - wow.
- 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.054
- - and we're gonna do it again, and it will be live on,
- 00:21:06.054 --> 00:21:08.690
- It will be on tv eventually, and it'll be live,
- 00:21:08.690 --> 00:21:12.394
- You can watch it on our website, harvest.org.
- 00:21:12.394 --> 00:21:14.996
- But we basically proclaim the gospel
- 00:21:14.996 --> 00:21:18.567
- And we tell people how to come to christ.
- 00:21:18.567 --> 00:21:21.002
- And over the years, we have seen well over 600,000 people
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- Walk forward on the fields there at the stadium
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- And make professions of faith.
- 00:21:28.810 --> 00:21:30.379
- And i just feel like this is a moment for us as christians
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- To focus on two things.
- 00:21:33.582 --> 00:21:35.484
- Number one, pray. number two, preach.
- 00:21:35.484 --> 00:21:38.520
- - yes. - these are what,
- 00:21:38.520 --> 00:21:39.855
- We do these things better than anybody else.
- 00:21:39.855 --> 00:21:42.691
- And so we should lean into our strengths.
- 00:21:42.691 --> 00:21:46.895
- And so we need to pray,
- 00:21:46.895 --> 00:21:48.663
- And that's what this program is about,
- 00:21:48.663 --> 00:21:50.399
- And we wanna remember to pray.
- 00:21:50.399 --> 00:21:52.367
- But then we wanna remember to preach the gospel.
- 00:21:52.367 --> 00:21:54.870
- I think of these as two secret weapons
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- That the church doesn't employ enough.
- 00:21:57.439 --> 00:22:00.442
- - absolutely, in fact, i was reading this passage
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- This morning in hebrews, hebrews chapter 12.
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- - yeah, yeah. - i love this.
- 00:22:05.914 --> 00:22:07.215
- Because i went through a little thing last year
- 00:22:07.215 --> 00:22:09.284
- Where i thought i'd broken my neck.
- 00:22:09.284 --> 00:22:10.786
- It looked for a little bit like life was gonna change.
- 00:22:10.786 --> 00:22:13.889
- And i found myself asking the lord,
- 00:22:13.889 --> 00:22:15.657
- When i'm in this big mri thing,
- 00:22:15.657 --> 00:22:17.893
- "okay, i did not see this coming.
- 00:22:17.893 --> 00:22:20.762
- You walked through so many things
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- That were earth shattering, how did you do it?"
- 00:22:22.931 --> 00:22:25.734
- - yes. - and then i come to this,
- 00:22:25.734 --> 00:22:28.670
- "we keep our eyes on jesus,
- 00:22:29.271 --> 00:22:30.705
- The champion who initiated and perfects our faith.
- 00:22:30.705 --> 00:22:33.642
- Because of the joy awaiting him,
- 00:22:33.642 --> 00:22:35.844
- He endured the cross, disregarding the shame.
- 00:22:35.844 --> 00:22:38.914
- And now he's seated in the place of honor."
- 00:22:38.914 --> 00:22:40.582
- It's like, keep your eyes on jesus,
- 00:22:40.582 --> 00:22:42.284
- Who both began and finished this race that we are in.
- 00:22:42.284 --> 00:22:45.687
- Study how he did it.
- 00:22:45.687 --> 00:22:47.422
- I think these are exciting days to be alive.
- 00:22:47.422 --> 00:22:49.624
- - i think they are.
- 00:22:49.624 --> 00:22:51.193
- We're living in a time where we see spiritual leaders fall,
- 00:22:51.193 --> 00:22:56.465
- And fail, and we say,
- 00:22:56.965 --> 00:22:58.967
- "that's it, i'm not gonna be a christian anymore."
- 00:22:58.967 --> 00:23:01.636
- And i remember the words of jesus to peter
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- When he was having a discussion with the lord
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- About john who was gonna live longer,
- 00:23:06.975 --> 00:23:09.478
- And he was gonna die a death sooner than john.
- 00:23:09.478 --> 00:23:12.414
- And so he said, "what about this man?"
- 00:23:12.414 --> 00:23:14.282
- Jesus said, "what is that to you? follow me."
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- Here's how i see it. - wow. yeah.
- 00:23:17.219 --> 00:23:20.355
- - jesus has never failed me, sheila.
- 00:23:20.355 --> 00:23:22.390
- - [sheila] me neither.
- 00:23:22.390 --> 00:23:23.592
- - he's never been a hypocrite to me.
- 00:23:23.592 --> 00:23:25.126
- Over 50 years ago, i signed up to follow him.
- 00:23:25.126 --> 00:23:28.196
- He has kept his promises to me, he's done.
- 00:23:28.196 --> 00:23:30.899
- - everything he said he would do for me.
- 00:23:31.766 --> 00:23:33.034
- And let's not forget that jesus talked about
- 00:23:33.034 --> 00:23:35.403
- An enemy sowing tares among the wheat.
- 00:23:35.403 --> 00:23:38.139
- So sometimes we see it's hypocrisy
- 00:23:38.139 --> 00:23:40.609
- When in reality it's possible that we can be in church
- 00:23:40.609 --> 00:23:43.411
- Sitting next to people that appear to be believers,
- 00:23:43.411 --> 00:23:46.414
- That are not believers.
- 00:23:46.414 --> 00:23:47.315
- They sing the same songs,
- 00:23:47.315 --> 00:23:49.484
- They given the same offering,
- 00:23:49.484 --> 00:23:52.187
- They amen at the right moment in the sermon.
- 00:23:52.187 --> 00:23:54.823
- But some are real believers and some are not.
- 00:23:54.823 --> 00:23:56.925
- Time will reveal that.
- 00:23:56.925 --> 00:23:58.226
- Our job is not to figure out who the tares are.
- 00:23:58.226 --> 00:24:00.529
- Our job is to make sure we're not a tare.
- 00:24:00.529 --> 00:24:02.898
- Make sure we're not a fake believer.
- 00:24:02.898 --> 00:24:05.100
- Make sure we're following the lord.
- 00:24:05.100 --> 00:24:07.002
- You're never gonna find a hypocrite free church.
- 00:24:07.002 --> 00:24:10.672
- And if you do, don't join it 'cause you'll spoil it.
- 00:24:10.672 --> 00:24:13.542
- - you'll ruin the whole thing. - yeah.
- 00:24:13.542 --> 00:24:14.876
- So i'm not excusing hypocrisy.
- 00:24:14.876 --> 00:24:17.445
- But what i'm saying is people are gonna let us down,
- 00:24:17.445 --> 00:24:20.615
- But we need to pray for them
- 00:24:20.615 --> 00:24:23.051
- That they would come back to christ,
- 00:24:23.051 --> 00:24:24.553
- Or in some cases, come to christ for the first time,
- 00:24:24.553 --> 00:24:27.155
- But focus on what god's called us to do.
- 00:24:27.155 --> 00:24:29.624
- And you mentioned running that race for the joy.
- 00:24:29.624 --> 00:24:32.527
- Paul says, lay aside the weight...
- 00:24:32.527 --> 00:24:34.329
- Well, we don't know paul, whoever wrote hebrews so.
- 00:24:34.329 --> 00:24:36.565
- - yeah. - he says,
- 00:24:36.565 --> 00:24:38.133
- "lay aside the weight, and the sin that so easily beset you
- 00:24:38.133 --> 00:24:40.468
- And run the race with endurance that is set before you,
- 00:24:40.468 --> 00:24:43.705
- As you just read, looking unto jesus,
- 00:24:43.705 --> 00:24:46.341
- The author and finisher of our faith."
- 00:24:46.341 --> 00:24:49.511
- So god finishes what he starts.
- 00:24:49.511 --> 00:24:52.781
- - and your salvation is firm in him.
- 00:24:52.781 --> 00:24:56.217
- - amen. - and we should walk
- 00:24:56.217 --> 00:24:57.485
- With that assurance, but keep our eyes on him
- 00:24:57.485 --> 00:24:59.721
- And do it for god's glory.
- 00:24:59.721 --> 00:25:01.056
- - yeah. i love that.
- 00:25:01.056 --> 00:25:02.757
- We're gonna rejoin by one of my favorite people.
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- We just, barry and i love pastor robert jeffress
- 00:25:05.393 --> 00:25:08.396
- Of first baptist church in dallas.
- 00:25:08.396 --> 00:25:10.565
- Such a godly man,
- 00:25:10.565 --> 00:25:12.233
- Such a prophetic voice in this day and time.
- 00:25:12.233 --> 00:25:15.370
- So dr. jeffress, i just wanna thank you
- 00:25:15.370 --> 00:25:17.472
- So much for joining us.
- 00:25:17.472 --> 00:25:19.174
- And i would love to hear your perspective
- 00:25:19.174 --> 00:25:21.343
- Of what's gone on over the last few days.
- 00:25:21.343 --> 00:25:24.779
- - well, sheila, it's great to be with you
- 00:25:24.779 --> 00:25:26.481
- And our tbn family.
- 00:25:26.481 --> 00:25:28.650
- You know, over the last few months
- 00:25:28.650 --> 00:25:31.553
- There has been a debate going on in our country,
- 00:25:31.553 --> 00:25:33.922
- A debate even within, among conservatives about
- 00:25:33.922 --> 00:25:37.859
- What should be the relationship between america and israel
- 00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:41.096
- And should we be supporting israel.
- 00:25:41.096 --> 00:25:43.898
- And many of your viewers saw some clips of that debate
- 00:25:43.898 --> 00:25:48.570
- Between tucker carlson and senator cruz.
- 00:25:48.570 --> 00:25:52.173
- And tucker was ridiculing senator cruz
- 00:25:52.173 --> 00:25:56.011
- For his support of israel and invoking the bible,
- 00:25:56.011 --> 00:25:58.880
- And he said, "where does it say that in the bible,
- 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.016
- Christians are supposed to support israel?
- 00:26:01.016 --> 00:26:03.785
- And what does it mean to support israel?"
- 00:26:03.785 --> 00:26:06.321
- Well, let me take a few moments and help tucker out
- 00:26:06.321 --> 00:26:09.824
- Because it's very clear what the bible says
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- In genesis 12. and other passages.
- 00:26:13.294 --> 00:26:16.197
- Look, to support israel,
- 00:26:16.197 --> 00:26:18.133
- First of all means to support israel's right to even exist.
- 00:26:18.133 --> 00:26:22.303
- - [sheila] yeah.
- 00:26:22.303 --> 00:26:23.772
- - iran doesn't believe israel has the right to exist.
- 00:26:23.772 --> 00:26:25.874
- They have as a stated goal
- 00:26:25.874 --> 00:26:27.242
- To wipe israel off the face of the earth.
- 00:26:27.242 --> 00:26:30.045
- The only problem with that is that isn't god's plan.
- 00:26:30.045 --> 00:26:33.615
- God is the one who created israel.
- 00:26:33.615 --> 00:26:36.751
- Israel is the only nation in the world that can say
- 00:26:36.751 --> 00:26:39.888
- It was truly created by god.
- 00:26:39.888 --> 00:26:42.457
- Only israel has the promise of endurance.
- 00:26:42.457 --> 00:26:45.260
- There is no nation under heaven,
- 00:26:45.260 --> 00:26:47.696
- Including the united states of america
- 00:26:47.696 --> 00:26:50.932
- That will last forever.
- 00:26:50.932 --> 00:26:52.634
- We know that in the tribulation time,
- 00:26:52.634 --> 00:26:55.370
- America will cease to exist as we know it.
- 00:26:55.370 --> 00:26:58.073
- It will be a part of a 10 nation confederacy
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- That israel will endure forever.
- 00:27:00.975 --> 00:27:04.112
- And secondly, to support israel means
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- To support israel's right to exist
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- In the land that god has given her.
- 00:27:09.150 --> 00:27:11.986
- And greg made mention of that, and you've mentioned that.
- 00:27:11.986 --> 00:27:16.091
- Look, the left is infiltrating our college campuses
- 00:27:16.091 --> 00:27:20.695
- And propagating this lie
- 00:27:20.695 --> 00:27:22.697
- That the land doesn't belong to israel,
- 00:27:22.697 --> 00:27:25.300
- It's belonged to those poor palestinians for eons.
- 00:27:25.300 --> 00:27:29.604
- And the nation of israel
- 00:27:29.604 --> 00:27:30.939
- Only came into existence 50 years ago.
- 00:27:30.939 --> 00:27:33.541
- And the israelite, the jewish people stole that land
- 00:27:33.541 --> 00:27:37.078
- From the poor palestinians.
- 00:27:37.078 --> 00:27:39.080
- That is a lie straight from the pit of hell.
- 00:27:39.080 --> 00:27:41.750
- Israel didn't steal the land. israel was in the land.
- 00:27:41.750 --> 00:27:44.652
- We know that not only because of what the bible tells us,
- 00:27:44.652 --> 00:27:48.123
- But history and archeology has revealed
- 00:27:48.123 --> 00:27:50.792
- That israel was in that land more than 3000 years ago.
- 00:27:50.792 --> 00:27:55.563
- And so we are called on as christians to support israel,
- 00:27:55.563 --> 00:27:59.734
- Her right to exist, her right to exist in the land
- 00:27:59.734 --> 00:28:02.971
- That god has given her.
- 00:28:02.971 --> 00:28:05.340
- And thank god, and i mean that literally,
- 00:28:05.340 --> 00:28:08.743
- Thank god we have a president who understands that.
- 00:28:08.743 --> 00:28:12.113
- And saturday night we saw him act in a decisive,
- 00:28:12.113 --> 00:28:15.650
- Courageous way, in a way to support the nation of israel.
- 00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:20.288
- We've never seen a president with this kind of courage
- 00:28:20.288 --> 00:28:23.358
- And this clear understanding of israel.
- 00:28:23.358 --> 00:28:26.561
- And i, thursday afternoon when the...
- 00:28:26.561 --> 00:28:31.132
- - and it was getting bombarded,
- 00:28:31.766 --> 00:28:33.067
- It seemed from so many different factions,
- 00:28:33.067 --> 00:28:34.502
- Even in his own group of support, i texted the president,
- 00:28:34.502 --> 00:28:38.473
- Just said, there are 70, there are millions of christians
- 00:28:38.473 --> 00:28:42.977
- Who are praying for you fervently,
- 00:28:42.977 --> 00:28:45.246
- And we trust you to make the right decision.
- 00:28:45.246 --> 00:28:48.483
- Whatever that decision is, they're going to support you.
- 00:28:48.483 --> 00:28:51.920
- Well, he made the right decision.
- 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:53.855
- And i think we ought to continue to pray
- 00:28:53.855 --> 00:28:55.924
- For president trump's decision making
- 00:28:55.924 --> 00:28:59.727
- And also pray for his protection.
- 00:28:59.727 --> 00:29:02.163
- He is under real physical as well as spiritual threat,
- 00:29:02.163 --> 00:29:06.868
- And i believe he's gonna be victorious in that.
- 00:29:06.868 --> 00:29:11.039
- - yeah, that's really powerful.
- 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.308
- In fact, i would love us to pause here, pastor
- 00:29:13.308 --> 00:29:15.510
- And i would love you to pray for our president
- 00:29:15.510 --> 00:29:18.179
- And for those around him,
- 00:29:18.179 --> 00:29:19.581
- For god's protection and wisdom and understanding.
- 00:29:19.581 --> 00:29:22.717
- Would you do that?
- 00:29:22.717 --> 00:29:24.819
- - father, we come before you
- 00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:27.155
- Realizing that you are the great god.
- 00:29:27.155 --> 00:29:30.091
- You are the one who establishes kings and removes kings.
- 00:29:30.091 --> 00:29:35.330
- And we know and believe that you placed president trump
- 00:29:36.431 --> 00:29:39.934
- Where he is for such a time as this.
- 00:29:39.934 --> 00:29:42.904
- We thank you for the heart he has for you,
- 00:29:42.904 --> 00:29:45.940
- The genuine respect for the lord that he has.
- 00:29:45.940 --> 00:29:49.677
- And i just pray, father,
- 00:29:49.677 --> 00:29:51.646
- That you would guide him in every crucial decision
- 00:29:51.646 --> 00:29:54.916
- That he makes, that he would have the mind of jesus christ.
- 00:29:54.916 --> 00:29:58.653
- And father, i pray that you would protect him from those
- 00:29:58.653 --> 00:30:01.789
- Who would harm him.
- 00:30:01.789 --> 00:30:03.224
- What happened in butler, pennsylvania
- 00:30:03.224 --> 00:30:05.260
- Was a divine intervention on your part
- 00:30:05.260 --> 00:30:08.029
- To preserve his life and use him.
- 00:30:08.029 --> 00:30:10.632
- And father, i pray that we might emulate his example
- 00:30:10.632 --> 00:30:13.801
- In giving you the glory for any success we experience.
- 00:30:13.801 --> 00:30:17.739
- We never before have heard any us president,
- 00:30:17.739 --> 00:30:21.242
- Republican, or democrat say publicly, "we love you, god."
- 00:30:21.242 --> 00:30:26.514
- Thank you for this president.
- 00:30:27.148 --> 00:30:28.449
- Pray your blessings upon him and his family
- 00:30:28.449 --> 00:30:31.452
- In the days ahead.
- 00:30:31.452 --> 00:30:32.954
- We pray also for prime minister, netanyahu.
- 00:30:32.954 --> 00:30:36.024
- - [host] yes. - thank you for putting him
- 00:30:36.024 --> 00:30:37.959
- In his place of leadership right now.
- 00:30:37.959 --> 00:30:40.895
- We know he has a churchillian task
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- Of keeping his people encouraged as they continue
- 00:30:43.431 --> 00:30:47.201
- To suffer assault after assault and i pray
- 00:30:47.201 --> 00:30:50.238
- That you would grant them victory in all that they do.
- 00:30:50.238 --> 00:30:53.308
- And father, as our friend greg laurie said,
- 00:30:53.308 --> 00:30:55.743
- I just pray that we would use this as an opportunity
- 00:30:55.743 --> 00:31:00.014
- To present the gospel of christ.
- 00:31:00.014 --> 00:31:02.383
- We know that the light shines brightest in the darkness
- 00:31:02.383 --> 00:31:05.753
- And those of us who know christ as savior have no reason
- 00:31:05.753 --> 00:31:08.990
- To be discouraged, but every reason to be encouraged
- 00:31:08.990 --> 00:31:12.060
- As we see all of these things coming together
- 00:31:12.060 --> 00:31:15.096
- As a preparation for the glorious return
- 00:31:15.096 --> 00:31:18.399
- Of your son and our savior, jesus christ.
- 00:31:18.399 --> 00:31:21.769
- It's in his powerful name that we pray. amen!
- 00:31:21.769 --> 00:31:24.973
- - amen!
- 00:31:24.973 --> 00:31:26.574
- Amen! dr. jeffress, let me ask you just one more question.
- 00:31:26.574 --> 00:31:28.576
- One of the most influential books i read as a young believer
- 00:31:28.576 --> 00:31:32.013
- Was francis schaeffer's book, "how should we then live?"
- 00:31:32.013 --> 00:31:35.016
- What do you say to us as god's people on this planet
- 00:31:35.016 --> 00:31:38.686
- During these days?
- 00:31:38.686 --> 00:31:39.721
- How should we live?
- 00:31:39.721 --> 00:31:41.723
- - well, first of all, we ought to live
- 00:31:42.557 --> 00:31:44.392
- With a sense of holiness.
- 00:31:44.392 --> 00:31:46.160
- You know, the bible never divorces bible prophecy
- 00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.697
- From practical application.
- 00:31:49.697 --> 00:31:51.699
- In 2 peter 3, peter goes into a description of the end times
- 00:31:51.699 --> 00:31:56.371
- And the final destruction of the present heaven
- 00:31:56.371 --> 00:31:58.940
- And the present earth
- 00:31:58.940 --> 00:32:00.408
- And the coming of the new heaven and the new earth.
- 00:32:00.408 --> 00:32:02.577
- And then he says, "therefore,
- 00:32:02.577 --> 00:32:04.812
- What sort of people ought we to be
- 00:32:04.812 --> 00:32:07.515
- In holy conduct and godliness
- 00:32:07.515 --> 00:32:10.518
- Looking for in hastening the coming of the lord?"
- 00:32:10.518 --> 00:32:13.388
- So, we ought to be motivated to holy living,
- 00:32:13.388 --> 00:32:15.923
- Knowing that the lord is coming back soon.
- 00:32:15.923 --> 00:32:18.860
- But not only should we be people of holiness,
- 00:32:18.860 --> 00:32:21.029
- We should be people of hope.
- 00:32:21.029 --> 00:32:23.131
- You know, you referenced the verse
- 00:32:23.131 --> 00:32:24.766
- At the top of the program.
- 00:32:24.766 --> 00:32:26.434
- We need to be ready to give an answer to anyone,
- 00:32:26.434 --> 00:32:29.604
- Not for the depression that is within us,
- 00:32:29.604 --> 00:32:31.939
- Or the fear that is within us,
- 00:32:31.939 --> 00:32:33.708
- But the hope that is within us.
- 00:32:33.708 --> 00:32:35.777
- And greg talked about using these times
- 00:32:35.777 --> 00:32:38.246
- As opportunities to share the gospel.
- 00:32:38.246 --> 00:32:40.815
- When people say, you know,
- 00:32:40.815 --> 00:32:42.350
- "we don't know what's going to happen in the world.
- 00:32:42.350 --> 00:32:44.419
- We don't know what's gonna happen",
- 00:32:44.419 --> 00:32:46.521
- The world seems out of control.
- 00:32:46.521 --> 00:32:48.189
- We can assure them that the world is under
- 00:32:48.189 --> 00:32:50.558
- God's sovereignty, it's inhhis control,
- 00:32:50.558 --> 00:32:53.061
- And the most important thing we can do is be ready
- 00:32:53.061 --> 00:32:55.763
- To meet him when the end comes.
- 00:32:55.763 --> 00:32:58.499
- I've told you before, sheila, i had a friend
- 00:32:58.499 --> 00:33:02.270
- Who's now deceased who used to work at fox news.
- 00:33:02.270 --> 00:33:05.173
- He was jewish,
- 00:33:05.173 --> 00:33:09.477
- But he always gave me an opportunity to share the gospel.
- 00:33:09.477 --> 00:33:12.914
- His name was alan colmes.
- 00:33:12.914 --> 00:33:14.515
- And one time he said to me on his program, he said,
- 00:33:14.515 --> 00:33:17.785
- "pastor, do you believe you're gonna be alive
- 00:33:17.785 --> 00:33:19.887
- To see jesus come back again?"
- 00:33:19.887 --> 00:33:21.956
- - wow. (chuckles) - i said, "well, i don't know.
- 00:33:21.956 --> 00:33:23.724
- I don't know alan,
- 00:33:23.724 --> 00:33:25.059
- But it really doesn't make any difference."
- 00:33:25.059 --> 00:33:26.761
- He said, "what do you mean it doesn't make any difference?"
- 00:33:26.761 --> 00:33:29.063
- I said, "well."
- 00:33:29.063 --> 00:33:30.698
- - i'm 55 years old,
- 00:33:31.165 --> 00:33:32.366
- And i know that in the next 30 years,
- 00:33:32.366 --> 00:33:34.569
- One of two things is happening.
- 00:33:34.569 --> 00:33:35.970
- Either he's coming or i'm going,
- 00:33:35.970 --> 00:33:38.439
- But the end is close for me,
- 00:33:38.439 --> 00:33:40.108
- And it's close for you as well.
- 00:33:40.108 --> 00:33:42.243
- - wow. - which is why
- 00:33:42.243 --> 00:33:43.277
- We all better get ready.
- 00:33:43.277 --> 00:33:44.445
- - wow.
- 00:33:44.445 --> 00:33:45.346
- Dr. jeffress, we love you.
- 00:33:45.346 --> 00:33:46.914
- We thank you so much.
- 00:33:46.914 --> 00:33:48.483
- I got to listen to your sermon yesterday at first baptist.
- 00:33:48.483 --> 00:33:49.917
- It was fantastic.
- 00:33:49.917 --> 00:33:51.018
- Thank you so much for joining us.
- 00:33:51.018 --> 00:33:52.787
- - thank you.
- 00:33:52.787 --> 00:33:53.921
- Thank you, great to see you.
- 00:33:53.921 --> 00:33:55.723
- - oh.
- 00:33:55.723 --> 00:33:56.991
- You know, it's so encouraging to me, greg,
- 00:33:56.991 --> 00:33:58.826
- Because like, if you just read social media,
- 00:33:58.826 --> 00:34:02.296
- Which i do not recommend.
- 00:34:02.296 --> 00:34:03.264
- I mean, it has its place
- 00:34:03.264 --> 00:34:04.732
- And it's good, but boy,
- 00:34:04.732 --> 00:34:06.000
- You hear so many stories right now
- 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.169
- Of, and you touched on this,
- 00:34:08.169 --> 00:34:09.804
- Of people falling away or. - yeah, yeah.
- 00:34:09.804 --> 00:34:12.039
- - secret lives being exposed
- 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:13.474
- And it's easy to be so discouraged.
- 00:34:13.474 --> 00:34:16.911
- - [greg] right.
- 00:34:16.911 --> 00:34:18.246
- - but, but i think now when that is happening,
- 00:34:18.246 --> 00:34:21.616
- You wanna shine your light brighter.
- 00:34:21.616 --> 00:34:23.784
- - yeah. - don't you?
- 00:34:23.784 --> 00:34:24.986
- You want to be somebody who live like,
- 00:34:24.986 --> 00:34:27.021
- We actually believe what we see.
- 00:34:27.021 --> 00:34:29.190
- We believe.
- 00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:30.658
- - yeah, so robert jeffress, he's such a great guy.
- 00:34:30.658 --> 00:34:34.295
- Last time i saw him was at the white house.
- 00:34:34.295 --> 00:34:36.230
- We were there at the invitation of the president
- 00:34:36.230 --> 00:34:39.033
- For a meeting and he's such a wonderful man of god.
- 00:34:39.033 --> 00:34:43.604
- - [reporter] yeah.
- 00:34:43.604 --> 00:34:44.906
- - and i was thinking of what he was saying
- 00:34:44.906 --> 00:34:46.440
- About how the bible,
- 00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:47.708
- When it talks about the coming of the lord,
- 00:34:47.708 --> 00:34:48.943
- It tells us to live holy lives.
- 00:34:48.943 --> 00:34:50.344
- In first john three, it says he there, or not three.
- 00:34:50.344 --> 00:34:53.114
- First john, maybe it is three.
- 00:34:53.114 --> 00:34:54.982
- I have to check.
- 00:34:54.982 --> 00:34:56.050
- I should know.
- 00:34:56.050 --> 00:34:56.884
- I'm a preacher.
- 00:34:56.884 --> 00:34:58.186
- Anyway, he then has this whole purifies himself
- 00:34:58.186 --> 00:35:01.055
- Even as he is pure.
- 00:35:01.055 --> 00:35:02.590
- So if i really understand the imminent return of christ,
- 00:35:02.590 --> 00:35:06.227
- It should have a purifying effect on my life.
- 00:35:06.227 --> 00:35:08.563
- Example, let's say you were a little kid,
- 00:35:08.563 --> 00:35:10.932
- And you were misbehaving.
- 00:35:10.932 --> 00:35:12.466
- Your mother would threaten you with the ominous words.
- 00:35:12.466 --> 00:35:14.068
- You just wait until
- 00:35:14.068 --> 00:35:15.403
- Your father gets home. - [reporter] your father
- 00:35:15.403 --> 00:35:16.103
- Gets home.
- 00:35:16.103 --> 00:35:17.071
- - so you dreaded dad's arrival.
- 00:35:17.071 --> 00:35:18.439
- But let's say you're a good boy or girl.
- 00:35:18.439 --> 00:35:20.174
- You couldn't wait until daddy got home, right?
- 00:35:20.174 --> 00:35:22.944
- So i think if we're walking with god
- 00:35:22.944 --> 00:35:24.478
- And we hear, oh, jesus is coming,
- 00:35:24.478 --> 00:35:26.247
- You know, our heart jumps a little bit
- 00:35:26.247 --> 00:35:28.583
- And like the apostle john, we say, even so come, lord jesus.
- 00:35:28.583 --> 00:35:33.287
- But if we're not walking with the lord,
- 00:35:33.287 --> 00:35:35.590
- As jesus told the parable.
- 00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:37.191
- That servant says, my master delays us coming
- 00:35:37.191 --> 00:35:40.027
- And begins to beat a sermon,
- 00:35:40.027 --> 00:35:41.529
- Something's really wrong there.
- 00:35:41.529 --> 00:35:43.130
- So it should affect us.
- 00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:44.532
- And this is why i believe, sheila,
- 00:35:44.532 --> 00:35:46.500
- It's so important that we understand end times events
- 00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:49.737
- And you know, it's fallen out of favor,
- 00:35:49.737 --> 00:35:52.940
- This so-called dispensational kind of teaching.
- 00:35:52.940 --> 00:35:55.743
- And it's been, something that's taken its place
- 00:35:55.743 --> 00:35:58.813
- Called replacement theology.
- 00:35:58.813 --> 00:36:01.649
- And i know that robert and i,
- 00:36:01.649 --> 00:36:03.584
- And dr. jeremiah and so many others,
- 00:36:03.584 --> 00:36:06.187
- We believe that the lord could come back at any moment.
- 00:36:06.187 --> 00:36:09.890
- We believe god chose the jewish people.
- 00:36:09.890 --> 00:36:12.426
- We don't think he has rescinded his promise.
- 00:36:12.426 --> 00:36:14.595
- We believe he's put them in the land.
- 00:36:14.595 --> 00:36:17.164
- And, but there are some that would say
- 00:36:17.164 --> 00:36:19.700
- No, god's promise to israel is null and void.
- 00:36:19.700 --> 00:36:23.070
- And the church has taken the place of israel.
- 00:36:23.070 --> 00:36:26.073
- And this is a dangerous teaching.
- 00:36:26.073 --> 00:36:28.376
- And i think it's something that we need to go back
- 00:36:28.376 --> 00:36:31.012
- And reread our bibles again.
- 00:36:31.012 --> 00:36:32.546
- Some would say, well, this idea of dispensational teaching,
- 00:36:32.546 --> 00:36:35.149
- It was popularized, popularized fairly recently.
- 00:36:35.149 --> 00:36:38.953
- As i see it, it's about 2000 years old.
- 00:36:38.953 --> 00:36:41.722
- And before, of course, if you go to the old testament.
- 00:36:41.722 --> 00:36:44.091
- The apostle paul, certainly he was the one
- 00:36:44.091 --> 00:36:47.261
- Who gave us first thessalonians 4:17.
- 00:36:47.261 --> 00:36:50.197
- And people will get hung up on the word rapture.
- 00:36:50.197 --> 00:36:53.534
- The word rapture isn't in the bible.
- 00:36:53.534 --> 00:36:55.336
- Well to the point the word bible isn't in the bible,
- 00:36:55.336 --> 00:36:58.506
- Nor is the word trinity in the bible.
- 00:36:58.506 --> 00:37:00.675
- But the word harpazo is in the bible.
- 00:37:00.675 --> 00:37:03.377
- And that's a greek word translated rapture.
- 00:37:03.377 --> 00:37:06.447
- The word harpazo, to be caught up,
- 00:37:06.447 --> 00:37:08.949
- Is used many times in the bible,
- 00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:11.786
- Including first thessalonians four,
- 00:37:11.786 --> 00:37:13.587
- The lord will descend from heaven
- 00:37:13.587 --> 00:37:15.156
- With the voice of the archangel,
- 00:37:15.156 --> 00:37:16.590
- And we will be caught up harpazo
- 00:37:16.590 --> 00:37:19.527
- To meet the lord in the air.
- 00:37:19.527 --> 00:37:21.696
- So, you know, why do we care about israel?
- 00:37:21.696 --> 00:37:24.165
- Coming back to what robert was saying,
- 00:37:24.165 --> 00:37:26.901
- God has placed him in the land,
- 00:37:26.901 --> 00:37:29.103
- And he has given a promise in genesis 12,
- 00:37:29.103 --> 00:37:31.739
- Of bless those that bless you.
- 00:37:31.739 --> 00:37:33.574
- That applies to the jewish people.
- 00:37:33.574 --> 00:37:36.077
- Let's not forget,
- 00:37:36.077 --> 00:37:36.977
- Israel came into existence
- 00:37:36.977 --> 00:37:38.779
- On the heels of the holocaust, where 6 million people,
- 00:37:38.779 --> 00:37:44.051
- Jewish people in particular,
- 00:37:44.652 --> 00:37:46.187
- Died and others as well.
- 00:37:46.187 --> 00:37:47.455
- They returned to their homeland
- 00:37:47.455 --> 00:37:49.423
- In fulfillment of bible prophecy.
- 00:37:49.423 --> 00:37:51.592
- This is the jewish homeland.
- 00:37:51.592 --> 00:37:54.595
- And so when we see this promise
- 00:37:54.595 --> 00:37:57.465
- Given by god to abraham and his descendants,
- 00:37:57.465 --> 00:38:00.067
- It applies to jewish people in general,
- 00:38:00.067 --> 00:38:03.437
- And it applies to the jewish homeland as well.
- 00:38:03.437 --> 00:38:06.741
- That doesn't mean that everything,
- 00:38:06.741 --> 00:38:08.142
- The modern state of israel
- 00:38:08.142 --> 00:38:09.510
- Does on every occasion is always the right thing.
- 00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:12.780
- But we are to pray for them,
- 00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:14.648
- We are to bless them,
- 00:38:14.648 --> 00:38:15.850
- We're to pray for their leadership.
- 00:38:15.850 --> 00:38:17.385
- And this is something
- 00:38:17.385 --> 00:38:18.819
- That, you know, is very important to me.
- 00:38:18.819 --> 00:38:21.655
- I had a jewish lady come up to me recently.
- 00:38:21.655 --> 00:38:24.158
- She was walking her dog in front of my house,
- 00:38:24.158 --> 00:38:26.727
- And she said, "i want to just thank you for what you've."
- 00:38:26.727 --> 00:38:29.897
- - said on behalf of the jewish people, she is,
- 00:38:30.798 --> 00:38:32.099
- I have a, my daughter is going to university,
- 00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:34.168
- And with the rise of antisemitism, i'm very concerned.
- 00:38:34.168 --> 00:38:37.838
- And i thought she was a christian.
- 00:38:37.838 --> 00:38:39.440
- And i said, "well, are you christian?"
- 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.542
- Goes, "no, i'm jewish, but thank you for what you've done
- 00:38:41.542 --> 00:38:44.044
- For our people." - yeah.
- 00:38:44.044 --> 00:38:45.279
- - and recently, sheila, we were in israel,
- 00:38:45.279 --> 00:38:48.582
- And we actually left right before this attack
- 00:38:48.582 --> 00:38:52.386
- In iran took place, which was a response
- 00:38:52.386 --> 00:38:54.789
- To their attack in israel.
- 00:38:54.789 --> 00:38:56.056
- Just wanted to mention that.
- 00:38:56.056 --> 00:38:57.792
- But we presented the state of israel, an armored ambulance,
- 00:38:57.792 --> 00:39:03.164
- Effectively a hospital on wheels,
- 00:39:03.931 --> 00:39:06.367
- At the request of the president of israel
- 00:39:06.367 --> 00:39:08.702
- To franklin graham.
- 00:39:08.702 --> 00:39:10.237
- So i called franklin after october 7th,
- 00:39:10.237 --> 00:39:12.506
- When the israelis were attacked by hamas.
- 00:39:12.506 --> 00:39:15.109
- I said, "what can we do?"
- 00:39:15.109 --> 00:39:16.544
- He said, "well, the president of israel asked us
- 00:39:16.544 --> 00:39:18.746
- To give some armored ambulances, and we're gonna give them,
- 00:39:18.746 --> 00:39:21.248
- Present them a number of them."
- 00:39:21.248 --> 00:39:22.750
- I said, "we're in for one."
- 00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:24.285
- So, we presented it to them, and it was a tangible way
- 00:39:24.285 --> 00:39:27.455
- To say to the jewish people, "yeah, we're praying for you.
- 00:39:27.455 --> 00:39:30.057
- We care about you, but this will save lives,
- 00:39:30.057 --> 00:39:33.093
- Both israeli and arab," so-
- 00:39:33.093 --> 00:39:36.263
- - [sheila] wow.
- 00:39:36.263 --> 00:39:37.565
- - that was a tangible gesture we wanted to do.
- 00:39:37.565 --> 00:39:39.533
- And i did it in the name of jesus christ.
- 00:39:39.533 --> 00:39:42.169
- And even when i presented it to them, i told them,
- 00:39:42.169 --> 00:39:45.239
- "the reason i do this is because jesus christ
- 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.808
- Changed my life at the age of 17.
- 00:39:47.808 --> 00:39:50.478
- And as i began to read the bible,
- 00:39:50.478 --> 00:39:52.913
- I began to learn about your people.
- 00:39:52.913 --> 00:39:54.615
- And this is why we care about you and love you."
- 00:39:54.615 --> 00:39:56.383
- - wow, i think that's beautiful.
- 00:39:56.383 --> 00:39:58.352
- I'm gonna be joined by joel rosenberg,
- 00:39:58.352 --> 00:40:01.489
- Brilliant, brilliant author.
- 00:40:01.489 --> 00:40:03.190
- - [greg] another one of my friends.
- 00:40:03.190 --> 00:40:04.091
- - yeah, another one, yes.
- 00:40:04.091 --> 00:40:06.126
- And joel, i just wanna say welcome.
- 00:40:06.126 --> 00:40:08.128
- It's so great to have you with us here tonight.
- 00:40:08.128 --> 00:40:10.030
- And i wanted to ask you, i mean,
- 00:40:10.030 --> 00:40:11.932
- You've lived in israel for many years.
- 00:40:11.932 --> 00:40:14.001
- Have you ever experienced a time like this before?
- 00:40:14.001 --> 00:40:18.172
- - sheila, it's great to be with you and even with greg,
- 00:40:19.273 --> 00:40:22.009
- So it's lovely to be with you guys,
- 00:40:22.009 --> 00:40:24.645
- And robert and your whole group, haim.
- 00:40:24.645 --> 00:40:28.048
- Yeah, and greetings and shalom from jerusalem.
- 00:40:28.048 --> 00:40:31.151
- No, i first came to israel to study as an undergraduate
- 00:40:31.151 --> 00:40:36.156
- At tel aviv university.
- 00:40:36.156 --> 00:40:37.558
- That was 1987, and i've been coming back and forth,
- 00:40:37.558 --> 00:40:40.828
- And of course we've lived here, lynn and i and the boys,
- 00:40:40.828 --> 00:40:44.598
- For 11 years as dual us-israeli citizens.
- 00:40:44.598 --> 00:40:49.303
- One of my sons is married and lives in the states,
- 00:40:49.303 --> 00:40:52.306
- But the other three boys,
- 00:40:52.306 --> 00:40:54.208
- Boys, they're men now, live here.
- 00:40:54.208 --> 00:40:56.210
- All of them have served in the army,
- 00:40:56.210 --> 00:40:57.978
- One of them in special forces.
- 00:40:57.978 --> 00:40:59.747
- The youngest just was drafted
- 00:40:59.747 --> 00:41:01.582
- Into the israeli defense forces on may 4th.
- 00:41:01.582 --> 00:41:05.586
- We told him, "may the fourth be with you."
- 00:41:05.586 --> 00:41:07.821
- Yeah, but we're all in.
- 00:41:07.821 --> 00:41:09.490
- You know, we're jewish on my dad's side.
- 00:41:09.490 --> 00:41:12.293
- He was orthodox jewish, but we are followers of jesus.
- 00:41:12.293 --> 00:41:15.496
- We're followers of yeshua, and i gotta tell you,
- 00:41:15.496 --> 00:41:17.831
- In the 40-some years that i've been coming here,
- 00:41:17.831 --> 00:41:22.436
- Or now living here, all in, there's never been a moment,
- 00:41:22.436 --> 00:41:26.874
- There's never been a moment in the modern history of israel
- 00:41:26.874 --> 00:41:29.443
- Except the war of independence itself-
- 00:41:29.443 --> 00:41:31.579
- - [sheila] yeah.
- 00:41:31.579 --> 00:41:32.713
- - in which the seven arab nations
- 00:41:32.713 --> 00:41:34.148
- Tried to abort the baby israel, you know, in the womb,
- 00:41:34.148 --> 00:41:37.785
- Or let's say, in the crib or in the hospital,
- 00:41:37.785 --> 00:41:39.720
- However you wanna use the analogy.
- 00:41:39.720 --> 00:41:41.488
- This is the darkest hour in israel's modern history.
- 00:41:41.488 --> 00:41:45.593
- It's the longest war that we ever had.
- 00:41:45.593 --> 00:41:48.195
- And it just keeps getting worse.
- 00:41:48.195 --> 00:41:50.431
- We are on offense, we are gonna win.
- 00:41:50.431 --> 00:41:53.000
- And i'm deeply grateful both to prime minister netanyahu
- 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.337
- And to president trump for having the courage
- 00:41:56.337 --> 00:41:59.239
- To do what even many of their own advisors
- 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.508
- And even their own supporters told them not to do,
- 00:42:01.508 --> 00:42:05.245
- Particularly president trump.
- 00:42:05.245 --> 00:42:06.947
- They had the courage to do it, but we are experiencing,
- 00:42:06.947 --> 00:42:11.018
- You know, the blow-back right now, as you and i speak.
- 00:42:11.018 --> 00:42:15.923
- There's been just thousands and thousands and thousands
- 00:42:15.923 --> 00:42:18.192
- Of missiles over the last 22 months, but just over the last,
- 00:42:18.192 --> 00:42:21.895
- You know, week and a half, the missiles are much larger,
- 00:42:21.895 --> 00:42:27.267
- They're much more destructive, and yet,
- 00:42:28.135 --> 00:42:30.404
- One miracle after another, there's,
- 00:42:30.404 --> 00:42:32.840
- I don't wanna say only 24 dead.
- 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:35.776
- There's thousands that are homeless, like 10,000 people
- 00:42:35.776 --> 00:42:38.779
- That are homeless now,
- 00:42:38.779 --> 00:42:40.180
- 'cause their apartments are completely obliterated,
- 00:42:40.180 --> 00:42:42.282
- And there are thousands that are wounded,
- 00:42:42.282 --> 00:42:44.785
- But 24 dead with missiles,
- 00:42:44.785 --> 00:42:48.622
- Ballistic missiles raining down on us.
- 00:42:48.622 --> 00:42:50.958
- It's exhausting, but we're doing it, and we're enduring it,
- 00:42:50.958 --> 00:42:56.263
- But no, i've never seen anything like this.
- 00:42:57.164 --> 00:42:59.767
- - i was reading a couple of articles last night
- 00:42:59.767 --> 00:43:01.669
- That you've written, and i wrote down something you said
- 00:43:01.669 --> 00:43:03.837
- That i thought was phenomenal.
- 00:43:03.837 --> 00:43:05.572
- You talked about, "we don't want to just destroy
- 00:43:05.572 --> 00:43:08.342
- Or neutralize the iranians' threat.
- 00:43:08.342 --> 00:43:10.711
- I want to see this wicked, demonic regime fall."
- 00:43:10.711 --> 00:43:15.215
- Talk to us about that.
- 00:43:15.215 --> 00:43:16.917
- - yeah, well, you know, i use that language advisedly,
- 00:43:17.985 --> 00:43:22.923
- Like, this is not, you know, i'm not some late-night pundit
- 00:43:22.923 --> 00:43:27.728
- Just taking a shot at somebody i don't.
- 00:43:27.728 --> 00:43:30.464
- - this is studying this regime and looking at the trauma,
- 00:43:31.598 --> 00:43:37.237
- The tyranny, the terror,
- 00:43:37.738 --> 00:43:40.107
- That the iranian regime,
- 00:43:40.107 --> 00:43:42.209
- And there's only been two of them
- 00:43:42.209 --> 00:43:43.377
- In the last almost 50 years.
- 00:43:43.377 --> 00:43:46.113
- The khomeini regime that came in in 1979,
- 00:43:46.113 --> 00:43:49.717
- The ayatollah ruhollah khomeini,
- 00:43:49.717 --> 00:43:52.586
- And then after khomeini died in 1989,
- 00:43:52.586 --> 00:43:56.056
- Then it's supreme leader ali hamaney.
- 00:43:56.056 --> 00:43:59.159
- There's only been these two, and they have terrorized.
- 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.228
- Yeah, they've terrorized israel.
- 00:44:01.228 --> 00:44:02.730
- Yeah, they've terrorized the arab world
- 00:44:02.730 --> 00:44:05.265
- And america and our allies.
- 00:44:05.265 --> 00:44:07.034
- But they've just traumatized their own people.
- 00:44:07.034 --> 00:44:11.638
- - [host] yeah.
- 00:44:11.638 --> 00:44:13.073
- - and there's 85 million people that are living in hell.
- 00:44:13.073 --> 00:44:17.911
- Ironically, ironically is not even the right word.
- 00:44:18.946 --> 00:44:22.649
- By god's mercy,
- 00:44:22.649 --> 00:44:24.485
- God has created this horrible pressure cooker of evil
- 00:44:24.485 --> 00:44:28.555
- And satanism at the top
- 00:44:28.555 --> 00:44:31.191
- And locking everybody in pretty much.
- 00:44:31.191 --> 00:44:34.161
- But what it's doing is it's revealing to the muslim,
- 00:44:34.161 --> 00:44:39.032
- The shia muslim people of iran,
- 00:44:39.032 --> 00:44:41.101
- That they don't wanna be part of shia islam.
- 00:44:41.101 --> 00:44:45.005
- And, but they're very religious people.
- 00:44:45.005 --> 00:44:47.674
- And so they are scanning the dial, as it were.
- 00:44:47.674 --> 00:44:50.544
- It's like they're driving across the united states
- 00:44:50.544 --> 00:44:52.646
- On route 66 and they're hitting scan,
- 00:44:52.646 --> 00:44:55.282
- And let's say they've never heard country music,
- 00:44:55.282 --> 00:44:57.584
- Or they've never heard, you know, whatever.
- 00:44:57.584 --> 00:44:59.520
- They've never heard gospel, but they found gospel.
- 00:44:59.520 --> 00:45:02.489
- They're finding it in satellite television,
- 00:45:02.489 --> 00:45:04.057
- They're finding it on the internet,
- 00:45:04.057 --> 00:45:05.425
- They're finding it in all kinds of different ways.
- 00:45:05.425 --> 00:45:07.261
- But what's happening is they're like that, that's the truth.
- 00:45:07.261 --> 00:45:10.697
- That's the god we wanted to know, but we didn't.
- 00:45:10.697 --> 00:45:13.767
- And they are, by the millions,
- 00:45:13.767 --> 00:45:15.969
- Converting away from radical, apocalyptic, genocidal,
- 00:45:15.969 --> 00:45:21.275
- You know, hamaney-esque radical islam, apocalyptic islam,
- 00:45:22.409 --> 00:45:25.746
- And they're turning to faith in jesus christ.
- 00:45:25.746 --> 00:45:27.981
- And what's ironic about this, i will say ironic,
- 00:45:27.981 --> 00:45:30.484
- But, you know, it is still god's mercy,
- 00:45:30.484 --> 00:45:32.519
- As a jew, i'm insanely jealous
- 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:34.955
- Of what god is doing in my worst enemy, right?
- 00:45:34.955 --> 00:45:39.126
- Like god is, there's only two great,
- 00:45:39.126 --> 00:45:41.962
- Well, there's three great spiritual awakenings
- 00:45:41.962 --> 00:45:43.897
- Going on in the world right now.
- 00:45:43.897 --> 00:45:45.098
- One is in communist china,
- 00:45:45.098 --> 00:45:46.934
- Where the communist chinese government
- 00:45:46.934 --> 00:45:48.502
- Has tried to crush the church,
- 00:45:48.502 --> 00:45:50.537
- And the church has grown from maybe 250,000
- 00:45:50.537 --> 00:45:54.808
- 30 or 40 years ago
- 00:45:54.808 --> 00:45:56.276
- To 100 million today. - [host] wow.
- 00:45:56.276 --> 00:45:58.679
- - that's extraordinary, right?
- 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:00.948
- Iran is the second place, where there were only a handful,
- 00:46:00.948 --> 00:46:05.352
- Maybe 500 known muslim converts to christ in 1979.
- 00:46:05.352 --> 00:46:10.290
- Today, we don't know,
- 00:46:10.290 --> 00:46:11.892
- We don't have an exact census or anything,
- 00:46:11.892 --> 00:46:13.293
- But 3 million, 4 million, 5 million, we can't say,
- 00:46:13.293 --> 00:46:15.762
- But millions and millions.
- 00:46:15.762 --> 00:46:17.397
- Brazil, which was a catholic,
- 00:46:17.397 --> 00:46:20.701
- Quote, unquote, "christian country,"
- 00:46:20.701 --> 00:46:22.169
- But not a spirit-filled, spirit-led born again nation,
- 00:46:22.169 --> 00:46:26.707
- We're seeing, you know, tens of millions of brazilians
- 00:46:26.707 --> 00:46:28.842
- Have come to faith in jesus christ.
- 00:46:28.842 --> 00:46:30.310
- So it's very interesting that what's going on in like,
- 00:46:30.310 --> 00:46:34.114
- You know, in the tel aviv to tehran corridor
- 00:46:34.114 --> 00:46:37.184
- Is the most dangerous place on earth right now,
- 00:46:38.185 --> 00:46:40.854
- Unless you live in ukraine, okay?
- 00:46:40.854 --> 00:46:42.890
- But, and what's happening is at one end of the corridor,
- 00:46:42.890 --> 00:46:47.094
- The enemy, god's spirit is pouring out.
- 00:46:47.094 --> 00:46:50.030
- Like if greg could go preach in the stadiums,
- 00:46:50.030 --> 00:46:54.067
- That the response would be huge.
- 00:46:54.067 --> 00:46:56.236
- But what has to happen
- 00:46:56.236 --> 00:46:58.171
- Is the gospel is being preached over the heads mullahs
- 00:46:58.171 --> 00:47:01.074
- And the government in,
- 00:47:01.074 --> 00:47:02.676
- You know, via satellite, television, short wave radio,
- 00:47:02.676 --> 00:47:05.112
- Internet and so forth.
- 00:47:05.112 --> 00:47:06.513
- But in israel, yeah, people are coming to faith,
- 00:47:06.513 --> 00:47:09.716
- And people are listening more to the gospel
- 00:47:09.716 --> 00:47:11.852
- Than ever before.
- 00:47:11.852 --> 00:47:13.220
- But you're not seeing, you know, millions of people
- 00:47:13.220 --> 00:47:17.357
- Coming to faith in israel.
- 00:47:17.357 --> 00:47:18.992
- So i'm grateful for what god's doing in iran.
- 00:47:18.992 --> 00:47:22.429
- I'm jealous for it as paul told me i would be.
- 00:47:22.429 --> 00:47:26.166
- Gentiles are coming to faith in jesus,
- 00:47:26.166 --> 00:47:27.901
- And i want my people to come to faith in jesus
- 00:47:27.901 --> 00:47:30.370
- In much larger numbers.
- 00:47:30.370 --> 00:47:32.272
- - joel, i'm just gonna pause here for a moment,
- 00:47:32.272 --> 00:47:33.573
- And i'm gonna ask greg
- 00:47:33.573 --> 00:47:34.975
- To pray for the people of iran (soft piano music)
- 00:47:34.975 --> 00:47:37.744
- 'cause jesus is showing up in dreams to people.
- 00:47:37.744 --> 00:47:40.681
- People are asking who is this man in white?
- 00:47:40.681 --> 00:47:43.183
- So let's, as god's family, let's pray
- 00:47:43.183 --> 00:47:46.019
- For god's will to be done.
- 00:47:46.019 --> 00:47:47.454
- God is not done with iran. - amen.
- 00:47:47.454 --> 00:47:48.722
- - would you pray for them?
- 00:47:48.722 --> 00:47:50.023
- - yes, father, your word says,
- 00:47:50.023 --> 00:47:52.926
- When the enemy comes in like a flood,
- 00:47:52.926 --> 00:47:54.695
- You'll raise up a standard against them.
- 00:47:54.695 --> 00:47:56.863
- And lord, we have seen this apocalyptic false religion
- 00:47:56.863 --> 00:48:01.301
- Mislead these people,
- 00:48:01.301 --> 00:48:02.602
- And now we're hearing of a breakthrough,
- 00:48:02.602 --> 00:48:04.338
- A work of your holy spirit
- 00:48:04.338 --> 00:48:06.340
- Reaching so many iranian, persian people,
- 00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:09.076
- And we pray this will continue
- 00:48:09.076 --> 00:48:11.211
- And that more and more will come to know you
- 00:48:11.211 --> 00:48:13.347
- As their savior and their lord.
- 00:48:13.347 --> 00:48:15.082
- And we think of joel, lord, talking about his own people,
- 00:48:15.082 --> 00:48:18.919
- And the scripture says,
- 00:48:18.919 --> 00:48:20.320
- "blindness in part has happened to israel
- 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.389
- Until the full gathering of the gentiles become in."
- 00:48:22.389 --> 00:48:25.659
- And we're seeing that full gathering happen
- 00:48:25.659 --> 00:48:27.861
- In places like iran and other places around the.
- 00:48:27.861 --> 00:48:30.764
- - the world, but lord open the eyes
- 00:48:31.498 --> 00:48:32.466
- Of our jewish friends as well,
- 00:48:32.466 --> 00:48:34.267
- And that they would see that yeshua is hamashiach.
- 00:48:34.267 --> 00:48:37.704
- That you are the one who can save them.
- 00:48:37.704 --> 00:48:39.473
- You are the one who put them in the land
- 00:48:39.473 --> 00:48:41.842
- And have preserved them.
- 00:48:41.842 --> 00:48:43.710
- And you are the one that they should be looking to now.
- 00:48:43.710 --> 00:48:46.947
- So we thank you lord for placing joel in israel right now,
- 00:48:46.947 --> 00:48:50.884
- Protect him and his wife, lynn, and his family,
- 00:48:50.884 --> 00:48:54.154
- And our other friends over there.
- 00:48:54.154 --> 00:48:55.956
- And that nation, put your hedge of protection over them.
- 00:48:55.956 --> 00:48:59.926
- And we are thankful, lord.
- 00:48:59.926 --> 00:49:01.762
- And will you tell us to pray for the peace of jerusalem?
- 00:49:01.762 --> 00:49:04.998
- We pray that this conflict will come to an end.
- 00:49:04.998 --> 00:49:07.667
- We pray that the missiles will stop flying
- 00:49:07.667 --> 00:49:10.437
- And that they'll have some kinda peace agreement
- 00:49:10.437 --> 00:49:13.440
- And that more will come to know you, the prince of peace.
- 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:17.210
- And we ask this in jesus' name, amen.
- 00:49:17.210 --> 00:49:19.846
- - amen. thank you.
- 00:49:19.846 --> 00:49:21.281
- Thank you, joel. - amen.
- 00:49:21.281 --> 00:49:22.449
- - thank you so much for joining us.
- 00:49:22.449 --> 00:49:24.051
- Just know that we continue to pray for you.
- 00:49:24.051 --> 00:49:26.053
- We pray for god's hedge of protection, as greg said,
- 00:49:26.053 --> 00:49:28.555
- Around you and your family.
- 00:49:28.555 --> 00:49:29.856
- And we love you so much.
- 00:49:29.856 --> 00:49:32.025
- - thank you, sheila.
- 00:49:32.492 --> 00:49:33.326
- Thank you, greg.
- 00:49:33.326 --> 00:49:34.161
- God bless you, guys.
- 00:49:34.161 --> 00:49:34.995
- I'm so grateful.
- 00:49:34.995 --> 00:49:35.862
- - yeah.
- 00:49:35.862 --> 00:49:37.064
- You know, we tend to think of iran.
- 00:49:37.064 --> 00:49:38.331
- That's the bad guy, but not the people.
- 00:49:38.331 --> 00:49:41.334
- The people there are coming to a place where they're like,
- 00:49:41.334 --> 00:49:43.904
- There has to be more than this to life.
- 00:49:43.904 --> 00:49:46.073
- - yes, that's right.
- 00:49:46.073 --> 00:49:47.541
- And you know, god often does his greatest work
- 00:49:47.541 --> 00:49:51.511
- In times of chaos when we can't trust in military solutions
- 00:49:51.511 --> 00:49:56.149
- Or political solutions and we have to look up.
- 00:49:56.149 --> 00:49:59.086
- You read that verse earlier
- 00:49:59.086 --> 00:50:00.554
- About looking to the lord from whence comes my help.
- 00:50:00.554 --> 00:50:04.724
- When my heart is overwhelmed, lead me to the rock
- 00:50:04.724 --> 00:50:07.627
- That is higher than i.
- 00:50:07.627 --> 00:50:08.962
- And this is a time in the history
- 00:50:08.962 --> 00:50:11.631
- Of our friends over in the middle east
- 00:50:11.631 --> 00:50:13.166
- That they need to be doing that,
- 00:50:13.166 --> 00:50:14.468
- But we need to be doing that in america as well.
- 00:50:14.468 --> 00:50:16.703
- - [sheila] yeah.
- 00:50:16.703 --> 00:50:17.571
- - looking to the lord.
- 00:50:17.571 --> 00:50:18.705
- He is the one that has the answers.
- 00:50:18.705 --> 00:50:20.307
- You know, years ago, my wife was putting a puzzle together
- 00:50:20.307 --> 00:50:23.810
- And she had it all done, but she'd lost the final piece.
- 00:50:23.810 --> 00:50:27.747
- - [sheila] oh. - and said, "greg, help me."
- 00:50:27.747 --> 00:50:28.748
- And we searched and found it.
- 00:50:28.748 --> 00:50:30.484
- And i feel like god is holding that piece we're looking for,
- 00:50:30.484 --> 00:50:33.653
- And he's just waiting for us to look up
- 00:50:33.653 --> 00:50:35.522
- - [sheila] wow. - and say, "lord, help us."
- 00:50:35.522 --> 00:50:37.057
- - wow. beautiful.
- 00:50:37.057 --> 00:50:38.658
- We are now gonna be joined by one of my dear friends
- 00:50:38.658 --> 00:50:42.028
- Who actually was gonna be in the studio with us,
- 00:50:42.028 --> 00:50:44.097
- But he's actually in europe at the moment.
- 00:50:44.097 --> 00:50:45.799
- But rabbi jason sobel was kind enough
- 00:50:45.799 --> 00:50:47.968
- To spend a few minutes with us.
- 00:50:47.968 --> 00:50:49.936
- Rabbi, thank you for joining us.
- 00:50:49.936 --> 00:50:52.038
- - shalom, sheila, it's always great to be with you.
- 00:50:52.038 --> 00:50:55.775
- We are living in biblical times,
- 00:50:55.775 --> 00:51:00.113
- Absolutely incredible what is happening with israel
- 00:51:00.113 --> 00:51:05.051
- And iran and the us involvement
- 00:51:05.051 --> 00:51:07.854
- Of bombing the nuclear facilities.
- 00:51:07.854 --> 00:51:11.424
- These are really prophetic times.
- 00:51:11.424 --> 00:51:13.226
- And it's so interesting.
- 00:51:13.226 --> 00:51:14.794
- There is this idea in jewish thought that we need to learn
- 00:51:14.794 --> 00:51:17.631
- To live with the times and the seasons.
- 00:51:17.631 --> 00:51:22.269
- And what's interesting is that
- 00:51:22.269 --> 00:51:23.537
- As we entered into this new biblical year,
- 00:51:23.537 --> 00:51:26.373
- This past fall, which on the hebrew calendar
- 00:51:26.373 --> 00:51:28.675
- Is the year 5785.
- 00:51:28.675 --> 00:51:31.511
- It is the year of the hey according
- 00:51:31.511 --> 00:51:34.347
- To a jewish hebraic understanding.
- 00:51:34.347 --> 00:51:37.551
- And what's interesting is that 85 is a numerical value
- 00:51:37.551 --> 00:51:41.555
- Of the hebrew word, bitachon, which means trust or security.
- 00:51:41.555 --> 00:51:46.826
- I said, this is going to be a year
- 00:51:47.594 --> 00:51:49.396
- Where israel finds itself with a greater degree of security
- 00:51:49.396 --> 00:51:54.668
- Than it's ever experienced in its history.
- 00:51:55.569 --> 00:51:59.439
- And what's interesting is that the word bitachon,
- 00:51:59.439 --> 00:52:02.742
- We read about it in psalm 112, it says,
- 00:52:02.742 --> 00:52:04.811
- "his heart trusts in the lord.
- 00:52:04.811 --> 00:52:07.447
- He shall not be afraid.
- 00:52:07.447 --> 00:52:09.950
- Blessed is he who trusts in the lord.
- 00:52:09.950 --> 00:52:12.652
- And the lord shall be his trust," jeremiah 17:7.
- 00:52:12.652 --> 00:52:17.457
- Security is based upon whom you put your trust in.
- 00:52:17.457 --> 00:52:22.829
- Right? some put their trust in chariots,
- 00:52:23.697 --> 00:52:26.766
- But we put our trust in the name of the lord.
- 00:52:26.766 --> 00:52:30.804
- And what's so interesting about that
- 00:52:30.804 --> 00:52:34.040
- Is what we read in the book of ezekiel.
- 00:52:34.040 --> 00:52:38.278
- In the book of ezekiel,
- 00:52:38.278 --> 00:52:39.746
- We know there is this famous war
- 00:52:39.746 --> 00:52:41.848
- Called the war of gog and magog.
- 00:52:41.848 --> 00:52:45.352
- And in that ezekiel 38 passage, it talks about,
- 00:52:45.352 --> 00:52:48.922
- Uses that same word
- 00:52:48.922 --> 00:52:50.223
- That israel (speaks in foreign language),
- 00:52:50.223 --> 00:52:52.392
- Israel will dwell securely in their land
- 00:52:53.226 --> 00:52:57.831
- That are unwalled, meaning without defenses.
- 00:52:57.831 --> 00:53:01.501
- Only then can the war of gog and magog
- 00:53:01.501 --> 00:53:06.039
- And all of these end time's events
- 00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.242
- Actually unfold and occur.
- 00:53:09.242 --> 00:53:12.545
- And so i think that is so significant
- 00:53:12.545 --> 00:53:14.481
- Because one of the reasons why i said israel
- 00:53:14.481 --> 00:53:16.483
- Was gonna have to dwell securely in the season is
- 00:53:16.483 --> 00:53:19.719
- Because the clock, the prophetic clock, counting down
- 00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:23.089
- To the return of the messiah is accelerating. (chuckles)
- 00:53:23.089 --> 00:53:27.661
- But israel has never dwelt securely in its.
- 00:53:27.661 --> 00:53:30.630
- - and you know, think about it,
- 00:53:31.264 --> 00:53:32.465
- They've always needed this defenses.
- 00:53:32.465 --> 00:53:34.067
- And the greatest existential threat to israel has been iran.
- 00:53:34.067 --> 00:53:38.805
- And so i really felt that based upon the meaning
- 00:53:38.805 --> 00:53:43.143
- Of the year, based upon what i prayed into,
- 00:53:43.143 --> 00:53:45.679
- That god was gonna have to bring this security,
- 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:49.282
- Which is the number 85, the year that we're in to israel
- 00:53:49.282 --> 00:53:52.686
- Because there has to be a time of peace for israel.
- 00:53:52.686 --> 00:53:56.523
- And i believe this is gonna lead to the expansion
- 00:53:56.523 --> 00:53:58.625
- Of the abraham accords, a time of peace.
- 00:53:58.625 --> 00:54:01.194
- But it's only gonna last for a season.
- 00:54:01.194 --> 00:54:04.164
- And then it's gonna get even worse than before.
- 00:54:04.164 --> 00:54:07.233
- But we'll take it for now.
- 00:54:07.233 --> 00:54:10.303
- And i think what is true for israel is true for us.
- 00:54:10.303 --> 00:54:13.139
- This is a time to possess our promise,
- 00:54:13.139 --> 00:54:16.376
- To put our faith in god.
- 00:54:16.376 --> 00:54:18.044
- Not to live in fear, but to live by trust in him.
- 00:54:18.044 --> 00:54:23.350
- And so i think i just want to take,
- 00:54:24.084 --> 00:54:25.685
- I just wanna take a moment and pray for israel.
- 00:54:25.685 --> 00:54:29.989
- Abba father, i just say (speaks in foreign language)
- 00:54:29.989 --> 00:54:33.593
- You are our king, helper, savior, shield.
- 00:54:33.593 --> 00:54:35.762
- This could not have been done without you.
- 00:54:35.762 --> 00:54:39.065
- (speaks in foreign language) god, you are mighty to save.
- 00:54:39.065 --> 00:54:45.438
- Your power is beyond our understanding.
- 00:54:46.272 --> 00:54:49.642
- We pray god for a time of peace and prosperity for israel,
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- For the iranians, for the palestinians.
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- We pray that you would show yourself strong and mighty,
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- We pray against any retaliation against iran,
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- From iran to israel, from iran to the united states,
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- Protection over america, protection over israel,
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- Protection over the middle east, yeshua, jesus,
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- You are sar shalom, you are the prince of peace.
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- Shalom is more than the absence of conflict,
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- It's nothing missing, nothing broken.
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- And so we say, (speaks in foreign language)
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- May you bless and keep israel.
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- May you bless and keep america.
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- May you cause your face to shine on us.
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- May you protect us and may you give us shalom.
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- In the name of the prince of peace, jesus our messiah.
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- Nothing missing, nothing broken.
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- It's in his name we pray, amen.
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- - amen. amen. thank you so much my friend.
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- You know, greg, we've only got about a minute left,
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- But i would love for you to pray
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- For protection over our military,
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- Over our men and women
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- Who are serving faithfully that god
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- Would watch over them. - let's pray.
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- Father, we pray for the courageous men and women
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- That serve us in the united states military.
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- And we think of those that serve
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- In the israeli military as well.
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- Would you protect them? would you watch over them?
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- Would you guide them, lord?
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- You actually tell us in scripture
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- That they don't bear the sword in vain.
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- And so we do pray that you will help them do the job
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- That they need to do, and protect our homeland,
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- Protect the nation of israel, and watch over all of us.
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- And we pray, lord, that many people will turn
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- To you right now in this time of chaos,
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- Which may appear chaos, but you're ultimately in control.
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- Help us to look to you, the almighty god,
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- The one who loves us so much.
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- You sent your only son, jesus christ,
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- To die on the cross for our sin
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- And to rise again from the dead.
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- And if we will call upon the name of the lord,
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- We will be saved.
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- Help many to do that now.
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- And we ask it all in jesus' name. amen.
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- - amen, greg, thank you so much
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- For being with me. - my pleasure.
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- - just awesome to have you here.
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- And for those of you at home, let's become, in these days,
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- People of prayer.
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- So often we think it's the last thing we can do,
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- No, it's the first thing we can do.
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- Let's become people of prayer, people of the word of god,
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- And people sharing the hope
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- That is within us. - amen.
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- - from all of us here at tbn, we love you
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- And we'll see you next time.
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- (gentle music)
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