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Praise | Praise - Living Legacy - November 16, 2021 | November 17, 2021
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- - [Announcer] Tonight on "Praise",
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- a discussion about TBN's Living Legacy program
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- with TBN's Karen Conrad,
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- and former governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee.
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- And now here's your host, Tom Newman.
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- - TBN family, I want to speak to you about something
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- we don't really talk much about,
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- the end of our lives,
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- and how we should plan for that.
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- Most of the time we get so busy in living life,
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- we don't take the time to plan
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- for the events that happen at the end of it.
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- The things that happen here on Earth
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- when we physically die should be taken seriously.
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- I mean, some crazy stuff happens when we die,
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- and for some reason,
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- we don't like to talk about it.
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- We spend a lot of time on this network
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- talking about our eternal home with Jesus
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- and spending eternity with Christ,
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- but it's important that we don't neglect our loved ones
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- and the things we leave behind here on Earth.
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- We want to make sure the life we have built
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- on the talents and the gifts that God has given us
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- is not squandered after we die.
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- The writer of Proverbs reminds us
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- that a person of wisdom and foresight
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- leaves an inheritance for their children's children.
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- So that's what we're here to talk about today
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- in Living Legacy,
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- and I'm joined by my good friend,
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- Governor Mike Huckabee and Karen Conrad,
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- and we are coming from the beautiful set
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- right here in Hendersonville of the Huckabee Theater,
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- and I'm sitting in the wrong chair
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- with a Governor sitting right here.
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- Governor, welcome.
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- Thanks for coming.
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- - Well, thank you, Tom.
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- Great to be with you,
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- and hey, you know what?
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- This is our home on the weekend,
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- but it's your home.
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- My casa is your casa.
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- - Well, thank you.
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- Karen, thanks.
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- I knew you had an early day to jump in here
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- and come in from Dallas to join us.
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- - Yeah, my pleasure.
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- Thanks for having me.
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- - We're talking about Living Legacy,
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- and you know, Governor,
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- I think we're both in that place
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- where we've started drawing at least Medicare,
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- maybe not retirement yet.
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- - You know, I have no intention of retiring anytime soon.
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- I have no idea what that would even look like,
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- but I also know that there is gonna be a point
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- which the Lord will retire me,
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- whether I voluntarily decide to quit or not,
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- and we are in the glide path.
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- I think we have to recognize
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- that our plane has sort of gotten closer to the destination,
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- and we need to be thinking about
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- how the landing is gonna go.
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- And nobody that I know wants to crash.
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- Everybody wants a smooth landing,
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- and part of that is the very reason we're here today
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- to talk about how to make a smooth landing
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- for the end of life,
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- not only for ourselves,
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- but also for our family,
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- to leave them with something that they will love us for,
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- not leave them with a burden and a problem.
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- - So legally, what does happen when you die?
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- - That's a great question.
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- I mean, I think it depends on how well
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- people plan for that time.
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- For example, if you have a will,
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- it does help you with some of the planning.
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- You can share how you want your assets to be distributed.
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- People that don't have a will,
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- what happens is the state decides.
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- And I think that's a position
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- that none of us wanna find ourselves in.
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- - If we have viewers who are watching this right now,
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- and let's just say they don't have a will,
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- what would you encourage them to do?
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- - Well, I would encourage them first of all,
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- to check with an attorney,
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- and really make a plan with an attorney
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- to get a will established,
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- and TBN actually can help with that.
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- Sometimes people don't know who to call.
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- They don't know an attorney,
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- and they can call our phone number,
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- and we actually have some attorneys that work with us
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- that we can refer them to.
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- - If you call and the line is busy,
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- leave your name and number there,
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- and I promise you they'll call you back
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- and put you in touch with the right people.
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- That'd be important.
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- Governor, backstage, right before we came out,
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- we were talking a little bit
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- about you being a senior advisor.
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- (Mike chuckles)
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- And you explained what that senior advisor was
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- because you and I are in that great place
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- where we both have grandkids.
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- - Yeah.
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- - So tell me about being a senior advisor
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- and what's important about grandkids.
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- - Well, my daughter is running for Governor of Arkansas.
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- So people say, "What is your role in the campaign?"
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- I say, "I'm a senior advisor.
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- I'm a senior citizen,
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- and my main job in her campaign is to babysit her kids
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- and advise them of how to get their homework done
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- before they go to school the next day."
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- So I'm really fulfilling a very important role.
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- In all honesty, Tom,
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- it's the greatest role I could have.
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- The joy of spending time with my grandchildren,
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- the opportunity to have an investment in their lives
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- at a time when maybe I'm a little wiser
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- than I was when their mother or their father,
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- depending on which child was coming along.
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- But it also gives me an opportunity to think about
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- as the scripture you quoted before,
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- to leave something for our children's children.
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- You know, most grandparents kinda relate to this.
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- I don't really care about leaving much to my kids,
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- but I care a lot about doing something for my grandkids.
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- - You have six, right?
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- - [Mike] Seven.
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- - Seven, okay. - I've got seven.
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- And by the way,
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- there is a reason that grandparents and grandchildren
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- have such a remarkable bond.
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- Do you know what it is?
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- 'Cause they have a common enemy.
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- That's why.
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- So, most of our viewers will be able to relate
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- as grandparents to wanting to do something
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- that is meaningful,
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- and something that will perhaps even change the life
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- and the trajectory for our grandchildren.
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- Can you think of anything that is more exciting
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- than to do something after we're gone
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- that will have an impact on generations yet to come?
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- - God's blessed our lives.
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- We've had an opportunity to see amazing things.
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- I mean, you were almost President of the United States.
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- You were Governor of Arkansas.
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- You've had an amazing run they would say, Governor.
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- So tell me what's your plan, Governor?
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- What have you done?
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- - Well, my wife and I, we have a will,
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- but we also have a trust.
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- The last thing I want,
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- having been a Governor and having seen government work,
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- I wanna say to our viewers,
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- the last thing you ever want to happen
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- is for the government to take your estate
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- and for them to make any decisions about it.
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- It is so much better to know
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- that when this Earthly life of ours comes to an end,
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- we have done something that has spiritual legacy,
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- as opposed to having the state come in
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- and decide what's gonna be done with our property,
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- with our assets.
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- I can't imagine that any believer would find that acceptable
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- to say, "I trust the government.
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- I really trust them so much
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- that I want them to decide what happens
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- to all of the things that I've worked really hard for."
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- - Wow, wow.
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- Well, listen, I'm not a financial advisor,
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- but I want to encourage everyone should take time
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- to talk to an attorney or a certified financial advisor
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- before making any financial investment
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- to plan for your future and your finances.
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- We wanna remind you today
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- that you can leave a Living Legacy here at TBN.
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- There are three ways you can make a legacy gift to TBN,
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- the three big buckets,
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- wills and trust,
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- unique donations like stocks,
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- real estate, and financial accounts,
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- or you can make a Living Legacy gift
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- through a charitable gift annuity.
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- Throughout the program there will be a number on the screen.
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- If you're interested in making TBN
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- a part of your Living Legacy financial plan
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- call that number.
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- We have a small dedicated team
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- who will handle these specific programs for the network,
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- and they'll take you step-by-step
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- through the process of making a financial difference
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- at TBN through your golden years.
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- Call that number right now.
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- These are the three different brochures that come.
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- Karen, when we start saying things like gift annuities,
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- wills and trusts,
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- there seems to be a lot of jargon in all that.
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- Kind of break those down
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- what those three different things are, please.
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- - Absolutely.
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- So let's start with charitable gift annuities.
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- Charitable gift annuities are actually
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- an investment vehicle that you can use,
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- and they give you an income for your life.
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- - All right, so there's some great features about it.
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- First of all, it's a conservative investment,
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- and so it's not a high risk investment.
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- If people have a plan that they want to give into TBN,
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- and they want to have a tax deduction now,
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- but yet have an income going forward,
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- the charitable gift annuity is a great investment
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- or vehicle to consider.
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- When you give and invest into a charitable gift annuity
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- with TBN, you do receive a substantial write-off
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- in that year, but what's beautiful about it
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- is you get a monthly or quarterly check
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- for the rest of your life,
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- so you still have income from that donation.
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- Depending on people's income and their tax situation,
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- some will receive more deduction that initial year
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- and some less, but your accountant's going to be able
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- to help you know just how much of that you can deduct.
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- - As part of leaving a kingdom legacy,
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- many people from all over the world have taken the step
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- to put TBN into their will and trust.
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- When you take the time to make financial plans,
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- it benefits you, it benefits your loved ones,
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- and through the Living Legacy program here at TBN,
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- it benefits the Kingdom of God.
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- Would you consider naming TBN in your will or trust?
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- We would be forever grateful
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- for that overwhelming gift of generosity.
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- Please, call the number on your screen or go to the website.
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- One of our dedicated Living Legacy team members
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- is ready to walk you through that step-by-step process
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- in how to make God's Kingdom a part of your legacy.
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- I was thinking about this.
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- I was talking to a friend of mine, Jonathan Cousins
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- who's helped me prepare for this program.
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- And we were just talking, you know,
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- the thought of being able to make a gift to TBN,
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- you literally could impact generations for Christ,
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- not just the generation that we're living in.
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- - Tom, I think a lot of people are unaware
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- of the incredible reach of TBN.
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- I mean, this is a network that started
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- with Paul Crouch and one camera
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- and basically doing it from his living room almost.
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- It is now a global network with network facilities
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- and outreach in hundreds,
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- over a hundred countries around the globe.
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- TBN is getting its signal of the gospel into areas
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- where no missionary can go,
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- and people are getting the gospel.
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- So if a person says,
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- "I want to do something for the Kingdom.
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- "I want to do something that will have eternal impact,
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- "something that has scalable capacity."
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- That's where the gift of TBN can really have an impact,
- 00:11:09.225 --> 00:11:12.461
- because TBN is not sitting still.
- 00:11:12.461 --> 00:11:14.864
- It's not going backwards.
- 00:11:14.864 --> 00:11:16.365
- It's going forward in a most dramatic way with programming,
- 00:11:16.365 --> 00:11:20.636
- but more importantly, with the reach of biblical truth
- 00:11:20.636 --> 00:11:25.274
- at a time when biblical truth has never been more important.
- 00:11:25.274 --> 00:11:30.146
- - When you see a Farsi language network going across Iran
- 00:11:30.146 --> 00:11:34.683
- and Iraq and some of these places
- 00:11:34.683 --> 00:11:36.418
- with 25.000 salvation call-ins a month,
- 00:11:36.418 --> 00:11:40.089
- (laughs) wait, what, how many?
- 00:11:40.089 --> 00:11:43.692
- And sometimes we don't have that kind of number
- 00:11:43.692 --> 00:11:46.529
- in the states here.
- 00:11:46.529 --> 00:11:47.797
- We'll hear those numbers sometimes out of Africa,
- 00:11:47.797 --> 00:11:50.633
- but I mean, can you imagine that,
- 00:11:50.633 --> 00:11:52.368
- in the heart of the Muslim world, 25.000 salvations a month,
- 00:11:52.368 --> 00:11:55.971
- people calling in, giving their lives to Christ?
- 00:11:55.971 --> 00:11:59.175
- You know what, it does take resources to do that.
- 00:11:59.175 --> 00:12:03.579
- The translation work, the network set up,
- 00:12:03.579 --> 00:12:07.016
- I mean, over 90 satellite feeds to feed that,
- 00:12:07.016 --> 00:12:10.119
- as you're talking about, Governor.
- 00:12:10.119 --> 00:12:11.487
- Listen, take a look around here.
- 00:12:11.487 --> 00:12:14.990
- - Yeah, it's no small thing.
- 00:12:14.990 --> 00:12:17.026
- TBN does not want to come across as the church pageant.
- 00:12:17.026 --> 00:12:21.997
- The vision of TBN is that whether we're broadcasting
- 00:12:21.997 --> 00:12:25.334
- in China or whether we're broadcasting in the United States
- 00:12:25.334 --> 00:12:29.004
- or anywhere in the world,
- 00:12:29.004 --> 00:12:31.307
- that when you visually see the TBN programming,
- 00:12:31.307 --> 00:12:34.443
- you see programming that is equal or better
- 00:12:34.443 --> 00:12:38.781
- than anything you will see on the four big networks
- 00:12:38.781 --> 00:12:41.951
- or on any of the independent networks.
- 00:12:41.951 --> 00:12:44.520
- Now that's intentional. It's not to be extravagant.
- 00:12:44.520 --> 00:12:47.823
- It's not to be outlandish.
- 00:12:47.823 --> 00:12:49.758
- It's to be a witness so that we are able
- 00:12:49.758 --> 00:12:53.195
- to say to that viewer,
- 00:12:53.195 --> 00:12:54.730
- "The message we have is important enough
- 00:12:54.730 --> 00:12:57.233
- "to put it in the right frame,
- 00:12:57.233 --> 00:12:59.602
- so that we show that the Kingdom work
- 00:12:59.602 --> 00:13:02.004
- "ought to look like Kingdom business."
- 00:13:02.004 --> 00:13:04.874
- - Honestly, you being a host on TBN, to us, was a miracle
- 00:13:04.874 --> 00:13:10.112
- and an accomplishment, Governor.
- 00:13:10.746 --> 00:13:11.847
- We know you are a man of faith,
- 00:13:11.847 --> 00:13:13.883
- but when we reached out to you,
- 00:13:13.883 --> 00:13:15.351
- you had just come off your presidential run,
- 00:13:15.351 --> 00:13:17.653
- and we really wanted you on the network.
- 00:13:17.653 --> 00:13:19.855
- And because you couldn't stay as a host on FOX then,
- 00:13:19.855 --> 00:13:23.492
- we knew we had a window.
- 00:13:23.492 --> 00:13:24.793
- It didn't come cheap.
- 00:13:24.793 --> 00:13:26.028
- I'm not saying that you're expensive,
- 00:13:26.028 --> 00:13:28.163
- but it didn't come cheap.
- 00:13:28.163 --> 00:13:29.298
- This theater didn't come cheap.
- 00:13:29.298 --> 00:13:30.799
- And we were able to make those kind of reaches
- 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:34.069
- and have this kind of programming
- 00:13:34.069 --> 00:13:36.538
- because of generous folks that support TBN
- 00:13:36.538 --> 00:13:40.676
- and make this whole network possible.
- 00:13:40.676 --> 00:13:42.511
- In fact, one of the things I'm really excited about
- 00:13:42.511 --> 00:13:45.414
- is we have a new program coming up soon with Mike Rowe.
- 00:13:45.414 --> 00:13:49.318
- Now listen, when Matt gets together with Mike Rowe,
- 00:13:49.318 --> 00:13:53.522
- some of the craziest combination of personalities,
- 00:13:53.522 --> 00:13:57.726
- but let me tell you something,
- 00:13:57.726 --> 00:13:59.194
- it is interesting, because Mike is really smart.
- 00:13:59.194 --> 00:14:03.265
- Matt is really smart,
- 00:14:03.265 --> 00:14:04.700
- and those guys keep going after each other in such a way,
- 00:14:04.700 --> 00:14:07.536
- listen, we're shooting a brand new show.
- 00:14:07.536 --> 00:14:10.205
- It's called, "Story Behind the Story,"
- 00:14:10.205 --> 00:14:13.642
- and when they sat down,
- 00:14:13.642 --> 00:14:15.044
- Matt had thought the name of the show
- 00:14:15.044 --> 00:14:16.845
- was gonna be a different name.
- 00:14:16.845 --> 00:14:18.347
- We just captured a little bit of the antics that happen
- 00:14:18.347 --> 00:14:21.450
- on just the titling of the show,
- 00:14:21.450 --> 00:14:24.486
- and this is kind of a sneak preview of a new season,
- 00:14:24.486 --> 00:14:27.756
- getting ready to start in January,
- 00:14:27.756 --> 00:14:29.825
- the show that follows Mike Huckabee is the "Mike Rowe Show,"
- 00:14:29.825 --> 00:14:33.395
- soon to be called "Story Behind the Story."
- 00:14:33.395 --> 00:14:36.065
- Here's a little glimpse, watch this.
- 00:14:36.065 --> 00:14:38.233
- - If you're just joining us, Matt made a metal sign.
- 00:14:38.233 --> 00:14:40.970
- - (laughs) I thought that was gonna be the name of the show.
- 00:14:40.970 --> 00:14:43.806
- - You made a sign. What do you want, a parade?
- 00:14:43.806 --> 00:14:45.441
- (Matt laughs)
- 00:14:45.441 --> 00:14:46.241
- (upbeat music)
- 00:14:46.241 --> 00:14:48.110
- - [Matt] The sign is already made,
- 00:14:48.110 --> 00:14:49.778
- so why are we changing the title of the show
- 00:14:49.778 --> 00:14:53.148
- after the sign is made?
- 00:14:53.148 --> 00:14:54.717
- - Well, the show is my podcast,
- 00:14:54.717 --> 00:14:56.952
- which is called, "The Way I Heard It."
- 00:14:56.952 --> 00:14:58.821
- We're going to sit down and discuss the stories
- 00:14:58.821 --> 00:15:00.923
- and my podcast in a new show called,
- 00:15:00.923 --> 00:15:02.925
- "The Story Behind the Story."
- 00:15:02.925 --> 00:15:05.461
- - Could you have maybe talked to me
- 00:15:05.461 --> 00:15:08.063
- about wanting to change the title of the show?
- 00:15:08.063 --> 00:15:10.099
- (laughs) You just get here and change it.
- 00:15:10.099 --> 00:15:11.266
- - Stop, stop talking for a minute.
- 00:15:11.266 --> 00:15:12.601
- So what you do is you listen to the story,
- 00:15:12.601 --> 00:15:14.536
- and then you try and figure out who I'm talking about.
- 00:15:14.536 --> 00:15:16.038
- And at the end, I tell you, and you go,
- 00:15:16.038 --> 00:15:17.606
- "Oh, I can't believe it!"
- 00:15:17.606 --> 00:15:18.807
- If that's not crystal clear,
- 00:15:18.807 --> 00:15:20.442
- I don't know how else to drive it home.
- 00:15:20.442 --> 00:15:22.478
- - I stopped listening there for a second.
- 00:15:22.478 --> 00:15:24.480
- (audience laughing)
- 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:25.981
- - It's like a child, like an eight year old child.
- 00:15:25.981 --> 00:15:28.484
- - Looking forward to it.
- 00:15:28.484 --> 00:15:29.418
- - I think it's gonna be great.
- 00:15:29.418 --> 00:15:30.953
- Tuesdays at 9:00? - [Matt] Ah, no.
- 00:15:30.953 --> 00:15:32.521
- - Saturdays at 4:00? - [Matt] No.
- 00:15:32.521 --> 00:15:34.123
- - Wednesdays at 6:00? - [Matt] No.
- 00:15:34.123 --> 00:15:35.624
- Let me show you the sign out here though.
- 00:15:35.624 --> 00:15:38.093
- - When you give in partner with TBN,
- 00:15:38.894 --> 00:15:40.896
- you are part of making shows like "The Huckabee Show,"
- 00:15:40.896 --> 00:15:44.633
- "Mike Rowe Show," "Joel Olsteen and Max Lucado,"
- 00:15:44.633 --> 00:15:48.771
- those shows are reality.
- 00:15:48.771 --> 00:15:50.539
- One way many people are now partnering with TBN
- 00:15:50.539 --> 00:15:53.609
- is by giving gifts of life insurance, stocks,
- 00:15:53.609 --> 00:15:56.945
- retirement funds and real estate.
- 00:15:56.945 --> 00:15:59.314
- These types of unique financial gifts can have a huge impact
- 00:15:59.314 --> 00:16:03.085
- in spreading the gospel as part of your living legacy.
- 00:16:03.085 --> 00:16:07.156
- Karen, talk to us about some unique gifts
- 00:16:07.156 --> 00:16:09.558
- and things that people have done or are doing.
- 00:16:09.558 --> 00:16:11.560
- - Yeah, one of the things we're seeing now
- 00:16:11.560 --> 00:16:13.629
- is that we're receiving stock gifts,
- 00:16:13.629 --> 00:16:17.166
- and there's an interesting timing to this,
- 00:16:17.166 --> 00:16:20.102
- and many of you may not be aware, but when you sell stock,
- 00:16:20.102 --> 00:16:24.206
- of course you have the capital gains tax,
- 00:16:24.206 --> 00:16:26.542
- and there's a lot of increases
- 00:16:26.542 --> 00:16:28.944
- with the stock market's been high.
- 00:16:28.944 --> 00:16:30.712
- And so people are facing a lot of capital gains,
- 00:16:30.712 --> 00:16:34.483
- but when you give your stock to TBN,
- 00:16:34.483 --> 00:16:37.920
- you actually avoid that capital gains tax.
- 00:16:37.920 --> 00:16:42.224
- So if you already have a heart
- 00:16:42.224 --> 00:16:44.726
- that you want to give into the gospel
- 00:16:44.726 --> 00:16:46.562
- to leave that legacy of faith,
- 00:16:46.562 --> 00:16:49.164
- this is a really good time to consider
- 00:16:49.164 --> 00:16:51.667
- gifting that stock to TBN.
- 00:16:51.667 --> 00:16:54.169
- - And what other kinds of gifts, Karen, are helpful?
- 00:16:54.169 --> 00:16:56.839
- - Well, the life insurance, as you mentioned,
- 00:16:56.839 --> 00:16:59.241
- that's something that you can actually name TBN
- 00:16:59.241 --> 00:17:01.810
- as a beneficiary.
- 00:17:01.810 --> 00:17:03.312
- Something that is very helpful to know too
- 00:17:03.312 --> 00:17:05.714
- is check with your tax advisor,
- 00:17:05.714 --> 00:17:08.150
- but not every investment is actually taxed the same
- 00:17:08.150 --> 00:17:12.788
- at the time of our death as far as our estates.
- 00:17:12.788 --> 00:17:16.625
- And something that is really helpful to know
- 00:17:16.625 --> 00:17:19.795
- is when your IRA money or your retirement money
- 00:17:19.795 --> 00:17:24.433
- passes on to your children or your grandchildren,
- 00:17:24.433 --> 00:17:27.703
- in some cases, that's actually taxable to them,
- 00:17:27.703 --> 00:17:32.541
- and it potentially is depending on where you land
- 00:17:32.541 --> 00:17:35.711
- with the estate tax.
- 00:17:35.711 --> 00:17:37.946
- But when you actually put TBN on there or a ministry,
- 00:17:37.946 --> 00:17:43.285
- then that IRA money can go to TBN,
- 00:17:44.052 --> 00:17:46.655
- and it will not incur the capital gains tax
- 00:17:46.655 --> 00:17:50.926
- or the estate tax.
- 00:17:50.926 --> 00:17:53.028
- Now, many people are concerned that they want to make sure
- 00:17:53.028 --> 00:17:55.564
- that their children and grandchildren have the money,
- 00:17:55.564 --> 00:17:58.534
- but when you really plan things correctly,
- 00:17:58.534 --> 00:18:01.503
- and you look at things from this point of view,
- 00:18:01.503 --> 00:18:04.706
- before it comes that time that we go to heaven,
- 00:18:04.706 --> 00:18:08.177
- you can plan, and in many cases,
- 00:18:08.177 --> 00:18:11.113
- your children, grandchildren will get more money
- 00:18:11.113 --> 00:18:15.984
- than they would have had you not planned.
- 00:18:15.984 --> 00:18:18.720
- If you just take a little time to think about the types
- 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.291
- of investments and where the best place would be
- 00:18:22.291 --> 00:18:25.260
- to place someone like TBN as your beneficiary.
- 00:18:25.260 --> 00:18:27.896
- I just want to point out once again, we have these.
- 00:18:27.896 --> 00:18:31.333
- - Three brochures available for you.
- 00:18:31.333 --> 00:18:34.636
- If you would call the number at the bottom of your screen,
- 00:18:34.636 --> 00:18:37.439
- we have people standing by that will take your calls
- 00:18:37.439 --> 00:18:40.709
- and take your questions and send you this information.
- 00:18:40.709 --> 00:18:43.979
- So you can look through it, talk about it, think about it.
- 00:18:43.979 --> 00:18:47.115
- And just as importantly, pray about it.
- 00:18:47.115 --> 00:18:49.284
- What is the right decision for you?
- 00:18:49.284 --> 00:18:50.919
- Because whether we plan or not, it's going to happen.
- 00:18:50.919 --> 00:18:54.356
- So why wouldn't we do our very best to be prepared?
- 00:18:54.356 --> 00:18:57.426
- There's this thing called probate,
- 00:18:57.426 --> 00:18:59.394
- explain a little bit about that, Karen, what happens.
- 00:18:59.394 --> 00:19:01.863
- - Yeah, probate, you end up having to get the government
- 00:19:01.863 --> 00:19:05.067
- or the courts involved in settling the estate.
- 00:19:05.067 --> 00:19:07.970
- And what can happen is it can get tied up,
- 00:19:07.970 --> 00:19:10.973
- sometimes nine months to two years.
- 00:19:10.973 --> 00:19:13.742
- A matter of fact,
- 00:19:13.742 --> 00:19:15.344
- my in-laws, both of them passed away last year,
- 00:19:15.344 --> 00:19:19.481
- and we are still in probate
- 00:19:19.481 --> 00:19:21.516
- because they did not have - Oh my gosh.
- 00:19:21.516 --> 00:19:23.652
- - That living trust like you're talking about.
- 00:19:23.652 --> 00:19:26.088
- And so the state of Nevada in that situation is involved
- 00:19:26.088 --> 00:19:29.691
- in dictating what can be done and on what timeline.
- 00:19:29.691 --> 00:19:33.595
- So probate can be very difficult as far as the heirs
- 00:19:33.595 --> 00:19:38.166
- and what to do because it takes time and it takes money
- 00:19:38.166 --> 00:19:41.803
- because you have to pay attorneys to handle the probate.
- 00:19:41.803 --> 00:19:46.141
- So that is not a direction that you want to go.
- 00:19:46.141 --> 00:19:49.144
- And these things that we're talking about today
- 00:19:49.144 --> 00:19:51.780
- will help avoid that
- 00:19:51.780 --> 00:19:53.415
- and actually bring a lot of peace
- 00:19:53.415 --> 00:19:55.684
- during that time to your family members
- 00:19:55.684 --> 00:19:58.186
- because all this is taken care of
- 00:19:58.186 --> 00:20:00.022
- and it's not something they have to deal
- 00:20:00.022 --> 00:20:01.556
- with on top of the grief of a parent
- 00:20:01.556 --> 00:20:03.992
- or grandparent going home with the Lord.
- 00:20:03.992 --> 00:20:05.961
- - I think just being a responsible, kingdom citizen.
- 00:20:05.961 --> 00:20:10.399
- Listen, it's important to have a will.
- 00:20:10.399 --> 00:20:13.769
- You don't want to pass
- 00:20:13.769 --> 00:20:15.971
- without having your affairs in order.
- 00:20:15.971 --> 00:20:19.041
- Please do this.
- 00:20:19.041 --> 00:20:20.575
- Please do call the number on the bottom of your screen.
- 00:20:20.575 --> 00:20:22.444
- Talk to the folks that we have there with Living Legacy.
- 00:20:22.444 --> 00:20:25.814
- They'll talk you through things.
- 00:20:25.814 --> 00:20:27.215
- Even if you don't give it to TBN,
- 00:20:27.215 --> 00:20:29.484
- they can at least talk you through
- 00:20:29.484 --> 00:20:30.752
- and get you on the right path to do something.
- 00:20:30.752 --> 00:20:32.888
- You know, we were talking about some unique gifts
- 00:20:32.888 --> 00:20:35.324
- and there's a show called "Strange Inheritances."
- 00:20:35.324 --> 00:20:38.593
- And one of the things we did was we looked up a few things.
- 00:20:38.593 --> 00:20:40.595
- So there was a pair of Levi jeans
- 00:20:40.595 --> 00:20:45.100
- given from 1893 that were worth
- 00:20:45.734 --> 00:20:48.470
- $50.000. - A pair of jeans.
- 00:20:48.470 --> 00:20:51.239
- - [Tom] I bet you they even had a hole in them.
- 00:20:51.239 --> 00:20:53.775
- - Wow. - Yeah.
- 00:20:53.775 --> 00:20:55.243
- - I bet there's some teenage girl that says, "Daddy,
- 00:20:55.243 --> 00:20:56.545
- would you get those for me please?"
- 00:20:56.545 --> 00:20:57.979
- - Oh yeah. Yeah, for 50.000.
- 00:20:57.979 --> 00:20:59.815
- I mean, but that's just amazing.
- 00:20:59.815 --> 00:21:01.616
- - Wow. - A Portuguese aristocrat
- 00:21:01.616 --> 00:21:03.652
- left his money to strangers from a phone directory.
- 00:21:03.652 --> 00:21:08.156
- Just somebody there.
- 00:21:08.156 --> 00:21:10.325
- Karen, how can people make a gift?
- 00:21:11.093 --> 00:21:12.627
- Let's say it's jewelry or real estate,
- 00:21:12.627 --> 00:21:16.365
- how do they make, how do they do that,
- 00:21:16.365 --> 00:21:18.233
- make that to TBN? - Yeah,
- 00:21:18.233 --> 00:21:19.968
- so there's different ways that people can gift things
- 00:21:19.968 --> 00:21:23.071
- to TBN, but I would encourage you to call.
- 00:21:23.071 --> 00:21:26.441
- Call the phone number that's on the screen.
- 00:21:26.441 --> 00:21:28.910
- And every situation is a little bit different.
- 00:21:28.910 --> 00:21:31.380
- We want to help walk you through that.
- 00:21:31.380 --> 00:21:33.415
- In some cases, it's best that you sell the property
- 00:21:33.415 --> 00:21:36.685
- and then you can gift it to TBN.
- 00:21:36.685 --> 00:21:39.087
- But there's other things you can do.
- 00:21:39.087 --> 00:21:40.622
- For example, with real estate,
- 00:21:40.622 --> 00:21:42.791
- in some cases you can actually name TBN as the beneficiary.
- 00:21:42.791 --> 00:21:47.429
- And so when you pass on and you go to heaven,
- 00:21:47.429 --> 00:21:50.999
- that that real estate can actually come to TBN.
- 00:21:50.999 --> 00:21:54.836
- We've taken jewelry,
- 00:21:55.303 --> 00:21:57.005
- we work with you as much as possible
- 00:21:57.005 --> 00:22:00.442
- to help make your gift, what you have to give,
- 00:22:00.442 --> 00:22:03.578
- something that can help lives, like you describe.
- 00:22:03.578 --> 00:22:07.082
- And, you know, Tom, I couldn't help but think about
- 00:22:07.082 --> 00:22:09.618
- the many calls and testimonies
- 00:22:09.618 --> 00:22:11.820
- that I've personally heard about
- 00:22:11.820 --> 00:22:14.089
- and talked to people and read
- 00:22:14.089 --> 00:22:17.359
- that during this time,
- 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:18.894
- and even now as we still go through COVID,
- 00:22:18.894 --> 00:22:22.164
- they literally said,
- 00:22:22.164 --> 00:22:23.398
- "I don't know what I would do without TBN."
- 00:22:23.398 --> 00:22:26.968
- - Wow. - And in many cases,
- 00:22:26.968 --> 00:22:28.870
- TBN is the only church that people have.
- 00:22:28.870 --> 00:22:32.574
- And I think as we consider where we gift
- 00:22:32.574 --> 00:22:35.811
- and where we invest our money,
- 00:22:35.811 --> 00:22:38.380
- just knowing that TBN is reaching literally every corner
- 00:22:38.380 --> 00:22:42.250
- of the globe.
- 00:22:42.250 --> 00:22:43.718
- And when you are talking about Iran and areas there,
- 00:22:43.718 --> 00:22:47.889
- do you know,
- 00:22:47.889 --> 00:22:49.424
- there's a lot of places right now that even on the internet,
- 00:22:49.424 --> 00:22:51.560
- the governments or things, they're monitoring them.
- 00:22:51.560 --> 00:22:55.096
- But you know what?
- 00:22:55.096 --> 00:22:56.298
- When you look at apartment buildings
- 00:22:56.298 --> 00:22:57.999
- and houses in Iran, for example,
- 00:22:57.999 --> 00:23:00.669
- they all have the satellite dishes.
- 00:23:00.669 --> 00:23:03.305
- - Yep. I've seen pictures. - Exactly.
- 00:23:03.305 --> 00:23:05.807
- And so the gospel is going into those homes from TBN
- 00:23:05.807 --> 00:23:10.912
- because of the investment that we're making in networks
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- all over the world.
- 00:23:14.749 --> 00:23:17.052
- And so personally, I just can't help but just sharing that,
- 00:23:17.052 --> 00:23:20.288
- when we think about how to leave that legacy of faith,
- 00:23:20.288 --> 00:23:25.026
- I can't imagine a better place to invest in than TBN.
- 00:23:25.026 --> 00:23:29.431
- And again, I'm really privileged.
- 00:23:29.431 --> 00:23:31.299
- I get to hear and see those testimonies
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- and talk to people firsthand to know what a difference
- 00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:37.906
- you as partners of TBN are making in the lives of people
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- all over the world.
- 00:23:41.810 --> 00:23:42.978
- - Let's take a minute
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- and go to one of those testimonies right now.
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- Here's someone who's been part of our Living Legacy program.
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- - I make donations because I love God,
- 00:23:52.087 --> 00:23:55.290
- because God loves me.
- 00:23:55.290 --> 00:23:57.926
- He gave me a wonderful life. Gave me a loving family.
- 00:23:57.926 --> 00:24:02.297
- Many good friends and the jobs that I really enjoy.
- 00:24:02.297 --> 00:24:07.302
- TBN has the largest
- 00:24:07.302 --> 00:24:10.372
- Christian television network in the whole wide world.
- 00:24:10.372 --> 00:24:14.342
- And it has some many, many good preachers.
- 00:24:14.342 --> 00:24:18.046
- I feel they have a great message for the world.
- 00:24:18.046 --> 00:24:21.449
- So by supporting TBN,
- 00:24:21.449 --> 00:24:23.919
- I'm supporting them to spread God's word to the world.
- 00:24:23.919 --> 00:24:27.856
- I included TBN in my will long time ago,
- 00:24:27.856 --> 00:24:31.326
- but recently, there's so many preachers are talking
- 00:24:31.326 --> 00:24:35.263
- that Lord Jesus will be coming soon.
- 00:24:35.263 --> 00:24:38.433
- So I feel the people of the world need
- 00:24:38.433 --> 00:24:42.771
- to hear the good news now, not until after I'm gone.
- 00:24:42.771 --> 00:24:46.675
- So this why I tried to look into a way
- 00:24:46.675 --> 00:24:50.512
- how to spread the gospel.
- 00:24:50.512 --> 00:24:52.480
- TBN, I found out they have a Living Legacy,
- 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.984
- charitable gift annuity,
- 00:24:55.984 --> 00:24:58.753
- and I could support them
- 00:24:58.753 --> 00:25:01.523
- and also support for myself as well.
- 00:25:01.523 --> 00:25:04.659
- It's really very dependable.
- 00:25:04.659 --> 00:25:07.762
- Once it's set, it's a lifetime.
- 00:25:07.762 --> 00:25:10.565
- As long as I live, they'll send me a check.
- 00:25:10.565 --> 00:25:13.468
- And I thank TBN to have the Living Legacy
- 00:25:13.468 --> 00:25:18.773
- for me to carry on my wish
- 00:25:19.341 --> 00:25:20.675
- because in Bible tells us where your money is,
- 00:25:20.675 --> 00:25:25.013
- your heart is also,
- 00:25:25.013 --> 00:25:26.948
- and right now, being my old age, my heart is with God.
- 00:25:26.948 --> 00:25:33.588
- - For over 40 years, faithful, generous partners,
- 00:25:34.589 --> 00:25:37.258
- people just like you, have allowed TBN to reach the world
- 00:25:37.258 --> 00:25:40.629
- with the life changing message of Jesus.
- 00:25:40.629 --> 00:25:43.231
- By giving to TBN through your estate,
- 00:25:43.231 --> 00:25:45.266
- you are leaving a legacy of soul-winning
- 00:25:45.266 --> 00:25:47.769
- for the kingdom of God.
- 00:25:47.769 --> 00:25:49.337
- Proverbs 13:22 says,
- 00:25:49.337 --> 00:25:51.539
- "A good man leaves an inheritance
- 00:25:51.539 --> 00:25:53.775
- to his children's children."
- 00:25:53.775 --> 00:25:55.977
- I think it's important to remember,
- 00:25:55.977 --> 00:25:57.879
- an inheritance is not limited to just money.
- 00:25:57.879 --> 00:26:01.316
- It also includes godly character,
- 00:26:01.316 --> 00:26:04.219
- qualities like integrity and trustworthiness.
- 00:26:04.219 --> 00:26:07.689
- It includes advancing the kingdom of God.
- 00:26:07.689 --> 00:26:10.125
- It includes leaving a legacy
- 00:26:10.125 --> 00:26:12.093
- that includes making Jesus the center of your life.
- 00:26:12.093 --> 00:26:16.631
- So Governor, what does leaving a Jesus legacy mean to you?
- 00:26:16.631 --> 00:26:21.503
- - Well, I think it's leaving
- 00:26:21.503 --> 00:26:23.171
- certain maybe assets, we talked about that,
- 00:26:24.105 --> 00:26:26.641
- but what you just mentioned is very important.
- 00:26:26.641 --> 00:26:29.210
- It's leaving a sense of character.
- 00:26:29.210 --> 00:26:31.946
- A legacy is more than loot.
- 00:26:31.946 --> 00:26:35.050
- It is also love.
- 00:26:35.050 --> 00:26:37.052
- And that's really the greatest legacy.
- 00:26:37.052 --> 00:26:39.621
- And when love and all that that entails,
- 00:26:39.621 --> 00:26:43.658
- understanding our responsibility to God,
- 00:26:43.658 --> 00:26:47.195
- deep convictions that we believe the word of God
- 00:26:47.195 --> 00:26:49.831
- and we pass that on to our grandchildren as
- 00:26:49.831 --> 00:26:52.834
- this is the most trustworthy thing.
- 00:26:52.834 --> 00:26:54.569
- You can tune your life to this
- 00:26:54.569 --> 00:26:57.172
- and to give them that biblical foundation.
- 00:26:57.172 --> 00:27:00.375
- But then to be able to say,
- 00:27:00.375 --> 00:27:01.976
- because I love you,
- 00:27:01.976 --> 00:27:03.411
- because I want you to continue in the way of the Lord,
- 00:27:03.411 --> 00:27:07.582
- I also want to make sure that you have an opportunity
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- to get a good education, to start a business,
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- to start your own family right,
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- with a financial underpinning
- 00:27:16.458 --> 00:27:18.226
- that will help you buy your first home
- 00:27:18.226 --> 00:27:19.861
- and send your own kids to college.
- 00:27:19.861 --> 00:27:21.863
- That's where the trajectory changes
- 00:27:21.863 --> 00:27:23.665
- and it means that a grandchild of ours
- 00:27:23.665 --> 00:27:26.568
- or a great grandchild of ours is gonna be able
- 00:27:26.568 --> 00:27:29.404
- to have a solid foundation that we help provide.
- 00:27:29.404 --> 00:27:33.108
- Now, as they live their lives, you know what?
- 00:27:33.108 --> 00:27:35.910
- They're gonna say, "I'm so glad my grandfather did this,
- 00:27:35.910 --> 00:27:40.415
- because he left it so that I would have a good start
- 00:27:40.415 --> 00:27:45.687
- for education, having a home, getting my marriage started.
- 00:27:46.855 --> 00:27:48.523
- Why did he do that? Because he loved Jesus.
- 00:27:48.523 --> 00:27:51.893
- And because he loved Jesus, he loved me.
- 00:27:51.893 --> 00:27:54.496
- And because he was a good steward of his resources,
- 00:27:54.496 --> 00:27:56.765
- he didn't waste it all
- 00:27:56.765 --> 00:27:57.932
- and throw it all away on stupid stuff.
- 00:27:57.932 --> 00:28:00.502
- He preserved, protected, and then he passed it on.
- 00:28:00.502 --> 00:28:03.972
- So I should learn that lesson too."
- 00:28:03.972 --> 00:28:05.573
- I mean, that's the hope. Not everybody's gonna do that.
- 00:28:05.573 --> 00:28:08.710
- But Tom, you know, we've been talking
- 00:28:08.710 --> 00:28:10.845
- and I so hope people understand, they've got a choice.
- 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.282
- The choice is they take charge of their assets
- 00:28:14.282 --> 00:28:17.719
- and they decide how they're gonna be distributed
- 00:28:17.719 --> 00:28:21.022
- or the government will take charge of their assets
- 00:28:21.022 --> 00:28:23.224
- and a bunch of attorneys will.
- 00:28:23.224 --> 00:28:24.793
- Now I ask a simple question of our audience,
- 00:28:24.793 --> 00:28:27.562
- who do you trust most with what you have worked really hard?
- 00:28:27.562 --> 00:28:30.832
- - To attain,
- 00:28:31.166 --> 00:28:32.066
- do you trust yourself,
- 00:28:32.066 --> 00:28:34.335
- or do you trust a bunch of lawyers and the government?
- 00:28:34.335 --> 00:28:38.807
- And I'll leave it at that,
- 00:28:39.374 --> 00:28:40.575
- because if you honestly trust the government
- 00:28:40.575 --> 00:28:42.410
- and a bunch of lawyers more than you trust yourself,
- 00:28:42.410 --> 00:28:45.280
- you deserve to have the government
- 00:28:45.280 --> 00:28:47.115
- and a bunch of lawyers take all of your estate
- 00:28:47.115 --> 00:28:49.350
- and plan it for you.
- 00:28:49.350 --> 00:28:50.885
- But I would say 99.9% of the people watching are gonna say,
- 00:28:50.885 --> 00:28:54.956
- "You mean, if I don't make these decisions,
- 00:28:54.956 --> 00:28:59.127
- they're gonna be taken out of my family's hands,
- 00:28:59.127 --> 00:29:01.996
- and somebody I don't even know,
- 00:29:01.996 --> 00:29:03.932
- and who doesn't know me?
- 00:29:03.932 --> 00:29:05.200
- Somebody who may not even know God?
- 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.535
- Somebody in a court system and a bunch of lawyers
- 00:29:07.535 --> 00:29:09.971
- are gonna decide what's done with all my stuff
- 00:29:09.971 --> 00:29:13.074
- that I've worked hard for,
- 00:29:13.074 --> 00:29:14.309
- and my kids may never see a dime of it?"
- 00:29:14.309 --> 00:29:16.611
- Yes, that's what we're telling about.
- 00:29:16.611 --> 00:29:18.746
- - Well, we all heard celebrity stories
- 00:29:18.746 --> 00:29:20.949
- of people who didn't have a will,
- 00:29:20.949 --> 00:29:23.384
- and the amount of infighting.
- 00:29:23.384 --> 00:29:26.187
- I mean, for the sake of your children not having to,
- 00:29:26.187 --> 00:29:31.526
- I mean, how many times do you hear families split up
- 00:29:32.594 --> 00:29:34.762
- over fighting for inheritance issues,
- 00:29:34.762 --> 00:29:37.165
- or suing each other for things like that,
- 00:29:37.165 --> 00:29:39.567
- because there's no clarity.
- 00:29:39.567 --> 00:29:42.003
- That can all be avoided.
- 00:29:42.003 --> 00:29:43.438
- Listen, confusion is not of the Lord,
- 00:29:43.438 --> 00:29:46.975
- and that's not what you wanna do.
- 00:29:46.975 --> 00:29:49.210
- When you die the last thing people remember is,
- 00:29:49.210 --> 00:29:51.980
- "Well, that guy didn't even have his stuff together enough
- 00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:55.016
- to put together a will.
- 00:29:55.016 --> 00:29:57.018
- You know, the state had to come in,
- 00:29:57.018 --> 00:29:58.486
- the family's fighting.
- 00:29:58.486 --> 00:29:59.420
- They haven't got their money.
- 00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:00.588
- Their money's been tied up for two years."
- 00:30:00.588 --> 00:30:01.990
- I'm sorry, Karen.
- 00:30:01.990 --> 00:30:03.258
- "Money's been tied up for two years.
- 00:30:03.258 --> 00:30:04.459
- They can't..."
- 00:30:04.459 --> 00:30:05.693
- I mean, who wants that situation?
- 00:30:05.693 --> 00:30:07.328
- All that is, it's a lack of planning
- 00:30:07.328 --> 00:30:09.797
- because we put off the inevitable,
- 00:30:09.797 --> 00:30:12.200
- so please do this.
- 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:13.601
- We have these brochures.
- 00:30:13.601 --> 00:30:15.870
- They explain how to
- 00:30:15.870 --> 00:30:19.474
- at least get in touch with the right people,
- 00:30:19.474 --> 00:30:21.276
- to talk to a financial counselor,
- 00:30:21.276 --> 00:30:23.378
- to how to get a will put together,
- 00:30:23.378 --> 00:30:26.114
- how to make an annuity gift.
- 00:30:26.114 --> 00:30:27.882
- These things are all in this information.
- 00:30:27.882 --> 00:30:30.385
- We'll provide these things for you for free.
- 00:30:30.385 --> 00:30:33.054
- Please just call the number on your screen.
- 00:30:33.054 --> 00:30:35.657
- We'll get this packet right out to you,
- 00:30:35.657 --> 00:30:37.759
- And when you call,
- 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:39.260
- someone will talk you through what your specific need is.
- 00:30:39.260 --> 00:30:42.563
- They'll at least be able to put you in touch
- 00:30:42.563 --> 00:30:44.766
- with someone in your area if we can't help you.
- 00:30:44.766 --> 00:30:47.802
- But please do that now.
- 00:30:47.802 --> 00:30:49.704
- Don't be one who's watching from Heaven
- 00:30:49.704 --> 00:30:51.973
- as your family ends up in a squabble
- 00:30:51.973 --> 00:30:53.908
- over what should have been handled by yourself.
- 00:30:53.908 --> 00:30:56.277
- So, all right, Karen,
- 00:30:56.277 --> 00:30:57.946
- we talked a little bit about annuities.
- 00:30:57.946 --> 00:31:01.516
- Tell us about some of the other instruments
- 00:31:01.516 --> 00:31:03.284
- that can help folks.
- 00:31:03.284 --> 00:31:04.218
- - I feel like a living trust,
- 00:31:04.218 --> 00:31:05.586
- which, Governor, you've talked about as well,
- 00:31:05.586 --> 00:31:07.989
- and when you started bringing up the squabbles,
- 00:31:07.989 --> 00:31:11.426
- that is such a great point,
- 00:31:11.426 --> 00:31:13.194
- because my dad is 89,
- 00:31:13.194 --> 00:31:16.698
- and he has set up a living trust,
- 00:31:16.698 --> 00:31:19.500
- and it is so organized.
- 00:31:19.500 --> 00:31:21.202
- A matter of fact,
- 00:31:21.202 --> 00:31:22.470
- we went to visit him about a month ago
- 00:31:22.470 --> 00:31:24.205
- and he drove us around the farm,
- 00:31:24.205 --> 00:31:25.974
- because we have acreage,
- 00:31:25.974 --> 00:31:26.975
- and he's telling my husband,
- 00:31:26.975 --> 00:31:29.010
- "That's Karen's 40 acres over there."
- 00:31:29.010 --> 00:31:32.080
- And so we know everything.
- 00:31:32.080 --> 00:31:34.716
- It's a very peaceful situation,
- 00:31:34.716 --> 00:31:36.851
- and when you use a living trust,
- 00:31:36.851 --> 00:31:39.220
- which we have advisors that you can call the phone number
- 00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:42.190
- and we'll put you in touch with somebody,
- 00:31:42.190 --> 00:31:44.492
- the other thing is is that we pass away as people,
- 00:31:44.492 --> 00:31:47.929
- but when you have a living trust,
- 00:31:47.929 --> 00:31:49.630
- your trust doesn't die.
- 00:31:49.630 --> 00:31:52.000
- And it's a great way to actually give that legacy of faith
- 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:57.271
- and giving into generations,
- 00:31:57.872 --> 00:31:59.407
- because you can build in that living trust
- 00:31:59.407 --> 00:32:02.610
- some instructions or directions
- 00:32:02.610 --> 00:32:04.812
- on how you want some of the money dispersed ongoing.
- 00:32:04.812 --> 00:32:08.850
- Another thing I wanna bring up
- 00:32:08.850 --> 00:32:10.218
- is something called a donor advised fund.
- 00:32:10.218 --> 00:32:13.554
- Now, if you've maybe sold a business this year,
- 00:32:13.554 --> 00:32:16.924
- or you've sold investment properties,
- 00:32:16.924 --> 00:32:19.093
- and you could be facing a pretty significant tax bill,
- 00:32:19.093 --> 00:32:22.797
- something that you can do with a donor advised fund
- 00:32:22.797 --> 00:32:25.533
- is you can contribute the maximum that you want
- 00:32:25.533 --> 00:32:29.437
- into that advised fund,
- 00:32:29.437 --> 00:32:31.706
- get the deduction this year,
- 00:32:31.706 --> 00:32:34.075
- but you can give to different charities,
- 00:32:34.075 --> 00:32:36.878
- and if TBN is one of those on a schedule into future years,
- 00:32:36.878 --> 00:32:41.482
- and what's beautiful about that is you can get
- 00:32:41.482 --> 00:32:43.618
- your children and your grandchildren involved with that.
- 00:32:43.618 --> 00:32:47.188
- And so that's one way that you say,
- 00:32:47.188 --> 00:32:49.490
- "Yeah, I don't wanna give everything this year,"
- 00:32:49.490 --> 00:32:52.093
- but you need the tax deduction, donor advised fund,
- 00:32:52.093 --> 00:32:55.763
- and then you can state how you want to give that out.
- 00:32:55.763 --> 00:32:58.900
- And I think that's something that a lot of people,
- 00:32:58.900 --> 00:33:01.436
- especially now, where we're probably gonna see
- 00:33:01.436 --> 00:33:03.371
- some tax increases,
- 00:33:03.371 --> 00:33:04.605
- you would know more about that, Governor,
- 00:33:04.605 --> 00:33:05.940
- than than I would,
- 00:33:05.940 --> 00:33:07.275
- but as we see those things looming,
- 00:33:07.275 --> 00:33:11.279
- these are things that we need to be
- 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.314
- thinking about long-term to avoid our children
- 00:33:13.314 --> 00:33:17.952
- and our grandchildren from having that big tax burden,
- 00:33:17.952 --> 00:33:21.389
- but also to teach and train them
- 00:33:21.389 --> 00:33:23.991
- about giving well into the future,
- 00:33:23.991 --> 00:33:27.028
- even when we're in heaven.
- 00:33:27.028 --> 00:33:28.629
- - You know, my brother is a medical doctor,
- 00:33:28.629 --> 00:33:32.066
- and when he joined the practice that he was in
- 00:33:32.066 --> 00:33:35.903
- many years ago,
- 00:33:35.903 --> 00:33:37.171
- they basically gave him a pile of stock,
- 00:33:37.171 --> 00:33:41.309
- and one of the things that he did,
- 00:33:41.309 --> 00:33:43.578
- because my brother's a Godly man,
- 00:33:43.578 --> 00:33:46.080
- and raised kids in a Godly way,
- 00:33:46.080 --> 00:33:47.882
- he's got four kids,
- 00:33:47.882 --> 00:33:49.417
- so he took a chunk of that money,
- 00:33:49.417 --> 00:33:51.452
- actually he took a million dollars of his money,
- 00:33:51.452 --> 00:33:54.689
- and he put it in a fund that is nothing but a giving fund.
- 00:33:54.689 --> 00:33:59.393
- And his kids have to come together every year
- 00:33:59.393 --> 00:34:01.796
- to make a determination on where that money goes that year.
- 00:34:01.796 --> 00:34:05.666
- And so that'll go on for generations
- 00:34:05.666 --> 00:34:08.236
- and generations to come,
- 00:34:08.236 --> 00:34:09.504
- and it'll always have a name behind the Newman's
- 00:34:09.504 --> 00:34:12.206
- making a giving,
- 00:34:12.206 --> 00:34:14.242
- and it has to be to a Christian-focused ministry.
- 00:34:14.242 --> 00:34:18.246
- And I thought that was such a great idea
- 00:34:18.246 --> 00:34:21.182
- that brings unity and stuff this way,
- 00:34:21.182 --> 00:34:23.651
- and I just thought that was really powerful.
- 00:34:23.651 --> 00:34:25.786
- Well, listen, if you're interested in setting up
- 00:34:25.786 --> 00:34:28.089
- a charitable gift annuity
- 00:34:28.089 --> 00:34:29.423
- or naming TBN and your will or estate,
- 00:34:29.423 --> 00:34:31.859
- please call the number on your screen.
- 00:34:31.859 --> 00:34:33.661
- We have some very competent people on our team,
- 00:34:33.661 --> 00:34:36.264
- and they will walk you step-by-step through the process.
- 00:34:36.264 --> 00:34:40.134
- Please call right now, and receive this information packet
- 00:34:40.134 --> 00:34:43.371
- that explains exactly what the benefits of setting up
- 00:34:43.371 --> 00:34:46.807
- the Living Legacy Financial Plan is about.
- 00:34:46.807 --> 00:34:49.410
- In fact, let's hear from someone else
- 00:34:49.410 --> 00:34:51.379
- who's made TBN a part of their Living Legacy.
- 00:34:51.379 --> 00:34:56.551
- - You know, when you look at
- 00:34:57.151 --> 00:34:59.287
- what will you accumulate in life,
- 00:34:59.287 --> 00:35:01.489
- I don't think there's anything more important
- 00:35:01.489 --> 00:35:03.424
- than leaving behind a legacy of following Jesus.
- 00:35:03.424 --> 00:35:08.329
- That's the legacy that's really important,
- 00:35:08.329 --> 00:35:10.631
- and there are lot of ways we do that, of course.
- 00:35:10.631 --> 00:35:12.533
- When I retired, I set up a trust,
- 00:35:12.533 --> 00:35:16.504
- and in that trust I had named TBN,
- 00:35:16.504 --> 00:35:18.940
- and a couple of other organizations
- 00:35:18.940 --> 00:35:20.441
- that we have always supported
- 00:35:20.441 --> 00:35:21.909
- to have some money when I went to Heaven.
- 00:35:21.909 --> 00:35:24.912
- I decided that the now is important.
- 00:35:24.912 --> 00:35:28.916
- That money that would have gone the TBN when I'm gone,
- 00:35:28.916 --> 00:35:34.121
- I thought I need to get that working now.
- 00:35:35.022 --> 00:35:36.490
- I called TBN and I talked to a wonderful lady
- 00:35:36.490 --> 00:35:38.960
- who was very efficient,
- 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.461
- and within a short time had me set up with an annuity.
- 00:35:40.461 --> 00:35:45.433
- That annuity, I mean,
- 00:35:45.933 --> 00:35:47.201
- you can start an annuity for as little as $5.000.
- 00:35:47.201 --> 00:35:50.037
- I'm not talking about millions of dollars here.
- 00:35:50.037 --> 00:35:52.974
- I've found TBN to be really wonderful.
- 00:35:52.974 --> 00:35:54.976
- I get my payment deposited
- 00:35:54.976 --> 00:35:56.611
- in my charity account every month.
- 00:35:56.611 --> 00:35:58.679
- It's been a very pleasant, enjoyable experience.
- 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:03.117
- To me the most important thing
- 00:36:03.117 --> 00:36:05.152
- that I wanna be remembered for
- 00:36:05.152 --> 00:36:07.054
- is a legacy of having taken God's word
- 00:36:07.054 --> 00:36:10.591
- to as many people as I can possibly do that too.
- 00:36:10.591 --> 00:36:14.295
- We did that as long as we could in person,
- 00:36:14.295 --> 00:36:16.931
- but now TBN can do that for me.
- 00:36:16.931 --> 00:36:19.133
- I do know that everyone needs to consult God and ask him,
- 00:36:19.133 --> 00:36:25.072
- "What would you have me do
- 00:36:25.640 --> 00:36:26.841
- with what I've worked for all my life?"
- 00:36:26.841 --> 00:36:28.442
- Take a look at a long-range plan.
- 00:36:28.442 --> 00:36:32.046
- Don't let the government make your decisions for you.
- 00:36:32.046 --> 00:36:34.515
- Let God make your decisions for you.
- 00:36:34.515 --> 00:36:39.420
- - Together we are bringing
- 00:36:39.987 --> 00:36:41.222
- the life-changing gospel of Jesus Christ
- 00:36:41.222 --> 00:36:43.357
- to people in every corner of the globe,
- 00:36:43.357 --> 00:36:45.993
- and through TBN's Living Legacy Program,
- 00:36:45.993 --> 00:36:48.362
- you can be assured that your gift
- 00:36:48.362 --> 00:36:50.531
- will continue to reach millions of families
- 00:36:50.531 --> 00:36:53.000
- with the love of Jesus for years to come.
- 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.870
- I'm reminded of the words of Jesus in Matthew 6
- 00:36:55.870 --> 00:36:58.472
- when he says, "Do not store up for yourselves
- 00:36:58.472 --> 00:37:01.342
- treasure on Earth where moths and vermin destroy
- 00:37:01.342 --> 00:37:04.645
- and where thieves break in and steal,
- 00:37:04.645 --> 00:37:06.514
- but store up for yourselves treasures in Heaven,
- 00:37:06.514 --> 00:37:09.817
- where moths and vermin do not destroy
- 00:37:09.817 --> 00:37:11.952
- and where thieves do not break in and steal,
- 00:37:11.952 --> 00:37:14.522
- for where your treasure is,
- 00:37:14.522 --> 00:37:16.490
- there your heart will be also."
- 00:37:16.490 --> 00:37:18.993
- I don't know so much about the vermin thing,
- 00:37:18.993 --> 00:37:20.895
- but Governor, what does that scripture mean to you?
- 00:37:20.895 --> 00:37:24.298
- - Well, I think it's just a reminder that
- 00:37:24.298 --> 00:37:26.300
- if the only kingdom that we are focused on
- 00:37:26.300 --> 00:37:29.904
- is this kingdom on Earth,
- 00:37:29.904 --> 00:37:31.739
- it's corruptible.
- 00:37:31.739 --> 00:37:33.607
- People can steal it.
- 00:37:33.607 --> 00:37:35.142
- People can swindle us out of it.
- 00:37:35.142 --> 00:37:37.244
- The government can take it away from us involuntarily
- 00:37:37.244 --> 00:37:40.114
- by raising our taxes,
- 00:37:40.114 --> 00:37:41.882
- and what we think is ours turns out it won't be after all.
- 00:37:41.882 --> 00:37:45.353
- Or we can make investments that have eternal value,
- 00:37:45.353 --> 00:37:48.255
- and investments that no thief can touch,
- 00:37:48.255 --> 00:37:51.092
- that no varmint or vermin can get into.
- 00:37:51.926 --> 00:37:54.862
- - Or varmint.
- 00:37:54.862 --> 00:37:56.297
- - Or no government can take away from us.
- 00:37:56.297 --> 00:37:58.466
- Government is big, but it's not bigger than God.
- 00:37:58.466 --> 00:38:01.235
- And so when we leave it with God,
- 00:38:01.235 --> 00:38:03.003
- we're leaving it in a place
- 00:38:03.003 --> 00:38:04.372
- where even the government can't get to it.
- 00:38:04.372 --> 00:38:06.474
- And I would just say that's reason enough to do it.
- 00:38:06.474 --> 00:38:09.610
- You know, Arthur Godfrey,
- 00:38:09.610 --> 00:38:11.212
- you and I are old enough to know him.
- 00:38:11.212 --> 00:38:13.681
- Karen won't,
- 00:38:13.681 --> 00:38:15.182
- but we remember him and most of our viewers will.
- 00:38:15.182 --> 00:38:18.219
- Well, here's something Arthur Godfrey used to say.
- 00:38:18.219 --> 00:38:20.187
- He said, "I'm a proud tax paying American."
- 00:38:20.187 --> 00:38:23.324
- He said, "But I'd be just as proud for half the money."
- 00:38:23.324 --> 00:38:27.027
- And I think sometimes we need to be reminded
- 00:38:27.027 --> 00:38:29.397
- that we're not trying to encourage-
- 00:38:29.397 --> 00:38:31.165
- - People to evade taxes, that's illegal,
- 00:38:31.165 --> 00:38:34.935
- but we would encourage them to avoid unnecessary taxes.
- 00:38:34.935 --> 00:38:39.140
- Pay all you owe. Jesus told us that.
- 00:38:39.140 --> 00:38:42.410
- He said, "Pay to Caesar what is Caesar's,
- 00:38:42.410 --> 00:38:45.746
- but give to God what's God's."
- 00:38:45.746 --> 00:38:47.782
- Let's be like Arthur Godfrey.
- 00:38:47.782 --> 00:38:49.450
- We could be just as proud for half the money.
- 00:38:49.450 --> 00:38:52.386
- How do we do that? Planning.
- 00:38:52.386 --> 00:38:54.789
- And that's what Karen and you have been talking about
- 00:38:54.789 --> 00:38:58.359
- in our visit today is how do you plan?
- 00:38:58.359 --> 00:39:00.628
- And Tom, you know what?
- 00:39:00.628 --> 00:39:02.163
- People plan a vacation don't they?
- 00:39:02.163 --> 00:39:04.565
- People plan what they're gonna have for dinner tonight
- 00:39:04.565 --> 00:39:06.600
- and they even follow a plan called a recipe.
- 00:39:06.600 --> 00:39:10.504
- So if we're gonna plan for something as fleeting as dinner,
- 00:39:10.504 --> 00:39:15.843
- and we're gonna plan for something as
- 00:39:16.644 --> 00:39:17.812
- - Vacations. - Really insignificant
- 00:39:17.812 --> 00:39:19.013
- as a vacation for six days,
- 00:39:19.013 --> 00:39:21.916
- doesn't it make sense to plan for eternity,
- 00:39:21.916 --> 00:39:25.486
- both the spiritual part of eternity,
- 00:39:25.486 --> 00:39:28.856
- but also the physical part of our death?
- 00:39:28.856 --> 00:39:33.060
- - When we think about it,
- 00:39:33.060 --> 00:39:34.562
- we attribute the things that we do as God given ability
- 00:39:34.562 --> 00:39:39.166
- and what you just said a moment ago,
- 00:39:39.166 --> 00:39:41.202
- it just really hit me, when we talk about, well, listen,
- 00:39:41.202 --> 00:39:44.371
- God's given us our gifts and talents,
- 00:39:44.371 --> 00:39:46.440
- and we've used this talent in many cases
- 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:49.376
- to amass some wealth, to, when I say wealth, I mean,
- 00:39:49.376 --> 00:39:52.646
- to have some things, we have a bank account,
- 00:39:52.646 --> 00:39:54.582
- we have some retirement funds.
- 00:39:54.582 --> 00:39:56.083
- And you just say, well, was that a gift from God?
- 00:39:56.083 --> 00:40:00.254
- Was that legacy provided so that I could be able
- 00:40:00.254 --> 00:40:03.791
- to take care of my own family,
- 00:40:03.791 --> 00:40:05.659
- but also provide for my children's children
- 00:40:05.659 --> 00:40:08.762
- as the scripture we shared earlier with.
- 00:40:08.762 --> 00:40:10.965
- But just as importantly, to advance the kingdom of heaven?
- 00:40:10.965 --> 00:40:14.001
- I'll tell you, I had an experience.
- 00:40:14.001 --> 00:40:15.903
- I'm just gonna share this with you.
- 00:40:15.903 --> 00:40:17.838
- At the beginning of this past year,
- 00:40:17.838 --> 00:40:19.840
- I woke up early in the morning
- 00:40:20.474 --> 00:40:21.976
- and I went out into my living room and I turned on TBN.
- 00:40:21.976 --> 00:40:25.913
- And well, there I was.
- 00:40:26.413 --> 00:40:28.549
- And I was on the screen encouraging folks to take advantage
- 00:40:28.549 --> 00:40:32.720
- of a new book offer and support TBN with it.
- 00:40:32.720 --> 00:40:36.223
- And as I continued to watch TV and I heard the voice
- 00:40:36.223 --> 00:40:39.326
- of the Lord speak to me and said, "Tom,
- 00:40:39.326 --> 00:40:42.229
- you can give double what you're giving to TBN right now."
- 00:40:42.229 --> 00:40:46.100
- Now, it's never an issue for me to argue
- 00:40:46.100 --> 00:40:50.070
- with the voice of God when he's making something
- 00:40:50.070 --> 00:40:52.806
- that clear with me.
- 00:40:52.806 --> 00:40:54.074
- So that was like, okay, yes, Lord, I'll do that.
- 00:40:54.074 --> 00:40:56.310
- I can and I'll do that.
- 00:40:56.310 --> 00:40:58.412
- As quickly as that happened,
- 00:40:58.412 --> 00:41:00.447
- I just started thinking about this past year
- 00:41:00.447 --> 00:41:03.717
- and all the original programming
- 00:41:03.717 --> 00:41:06.554
- that TBN has been able to produce.
- 00:41:06.554 --> 00:41:09.056
- And you know, Russ Hall,
- 00:41:09.056 --> 00:41:11.125
- who's our vice president of production,
- 00:41:11.125 --> 00:41:14.161
- Russ is just amazing.
- 00:41:14.161 --> 00:41:15.729
- You see those live music shows.
- 00:41:15.729 --> 00:41:17.131
- Russ is the guy behind that switcher,
- 00:41:17.131 --> 00:41:19.300
- talking to 25 camera guys and doing,
- 00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:22.102
- he's just literally magic.
- 00:41:22.102 --> 00:41:23.604
- But Russ and I were talking earlier this year about,
- 00:41:23.604 --> 00:41:27.508
- I'm doing projects bigger
- 00:41:28.075 --> 00:41:30.945
- and better than I thought I would ever be doing.
- 00:41:30.945 --> 00:41:33.714
- Russ and I were having the same conversation.
- 00:41:33.714 --> 00:41:36.383
- I was doing Bocelli, he was doing K-LOVE Awards.
- 00:41:36.383 --> 00:41:39.186
- And it was just like,
- 00:41:39.186 --> 00:41:40.721
- you know, this is amazing, what TBN's getting to do.
- 00:41:40.721 --> 00:41:43.223
- Matt's on a jet flying with Mike Pompeo
- 00:41:43.223 --> 00:41:46.860
- and David Friedman talking about the Abrams Accord.
- 00:41:46.860 --> 00:41:51.165
- It's just like, wait, wait, wait,
- 00:41:51.165 --> 00:41:52.933
- what universe have we woke up in?
- 00:41:52.933 --> 00:41:55.736
- We're now working with
- 00:41:55.736 --> 00:41:57.738
- the largest government people in the world.
- 00:41:57.738 --> 00:42:01.241
- We have a host like Mike Huckabee on our own,
- 00:42:01.241 --> 00:42:04.745
- on his own stage, on TBN.
- 00:42:04.745 --> 00:42:07.514
- I'm going across Italy with Andrea Bocelli.
- 00:42:07.514 --> 00:42:10.751
- Russ is sitting here with all the music award winners
- 00:42:10.751 --> 00:42:13.988
- and you know what?
- 00:42:13.988 --> 00:42:15.522
- That's TBN. That's not ABC, CBS.
- 00:42:15.522 --> 00:42:20.294
- That's TBN getting to do that.
- 00:42:20.294 --> 00:42:22.496
- And you know how that's possible?
- 00:42:22.496 --> 00:42:24.732
- Because you have said yes to give, to buy those books.
- 00:42:24.732 --> 00:42:29.336
- Some people wake up sometimes like me
- 00:42:29.336 --> 00:42:31.338
- and they just started doubling up their giving
- 00:42:31.338 --> 00:42:34.041
- and doing something and taking that money
- 00:42:34.041 --> 00:42:36.443
- and multiplying it.
- 00:42:36.443 --> 00:42:37.811
- TBN invests that money wisely
- 00:42:37.811 --> 00:42:40.080
- into these programs and show.
- 00:42:40.080 --> 00:42:41.815
- More people are coming to TBN than ever before,
- 00:42:41.815 --> 00:42:44.218
- and Karen, you were talking earlier
- 00:42:44.218 --> 00:42:46.253
- about what happened that, during COVID,
- 00:42:46.253 --> 00:42:49.390
- all of a sudden, what happened, Governor?
- 00:42:49.390 --> 00:42:50.891
- What happened to our numbers?
- 00:42:50.891 --> 00:42:52.826
- - They went right through the roof.
- 00:42:52.826 --> 00:42:54.862
- - That means millions more people were tuning in.
- 00:42:54.862 --> 00:42:58.132
- You know, you go from 13 million unique viewers
- 00:42:58.132 --> 00:43:00.768
- to 20 million unique viewers watching TBN a month
- 00:43:00.768 --> 00:43:05.039
- and you go, wait, wait a minute.
- 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:06.740
- But think of this.
- 00:43:06.740 --> 00:43:08.275
- Now you've got guys like Nate and Emmanuel who are now doing
- 00:43:08.275 --> 00:43:13.180
- the video on demand services,
- 00:43:13.814 --> 00:43:15.849
- the streaming services,
- 00:43:15.849 --> 00:43:17.451
- and those things, it's just like, wait a minute.
- 00:43:17.451 --> 00:43:19.753
- There's never going to be an end
- 00:43:19.753 --> 00:43:23.490
- to the new ways of communicating the gospel,
- 00:43:23.490 --> 00:43:27.094
- to communicating these messages,
- 00:43:27.094 --> 00:43:29.029
- communicating the important governmental thoughts
- 00:43:29.029 --> 00:43:32.032
- and things, putting that into a Christian perspective,
- 00:43:32.032 --> 00:43:34.668
- and giving that to the world.
- 00:43:34.668 --> 00:43:36.136
- So we can maintain our sanity
- 00:43:36.136 --> 00:43:39.473
- in a time of let's just say disagreement
- 00:43:39.473 --> 00:43:42.309
- with our government, disagreement with vaccines,
- 00:43:42.309 --> 00:43:44.912
- disagreeing with all the crazy things that may be happening,
- 00:43:44.912 --> 00:43:47.481
- critical race theory, I mean, it doesn't stop.
- 00:43:47.481 --> 00:43:50.017
- But what makes that possible?
- 00:43:50.017 --> 00:43:52.352
- TBN's Legacy Giving,
- 00:43:52.820 --> 00:43:55.089
- people who are giving to make TBN a reality
- 00:43:55.089 --> 00:43:57.591
- and these programmings a reality.
- 00:43:57.591 --> 00:43:59.393
- Again, I'm gonna ask you to please,
- 00:43:59.393 --> 00:44:02.029
- if you haven't called yet to get these brochures,
- 00:44:02.029 --> 00:44:04.631
- please get this.
- 00:44:04.631 --> 00:44:05.899
- Begin to plan purposely.
- 00:44:05.899 --> 00:44:08.569
- Not only for your attorney, listen,
- 00:44:08.569 --> 00:44:11.038
- we trust that you've watched TBN,
- 00:44:11.805 --> 00:44:14.041
- that you're a faithful viewer,
- 00:44:14.041 --> 00:44:15.709
- and that you've heard plenty about how much Jesus loves you,
- 00:44:15.709 --> 00:44:18.946
- and he does, and you're gonna spend eternity with him.
- 00:44:18.946 --> 00:44:22.049
- We want to make sure of that more than anything else,
- 00:44:22.049 --> 00:44:25.252
- but we also want to make sure that you take the talents
- 00:44:25.252 --> 00:44:28.055
- and the gifts that God has given you
- 00:44:28.055 --> 00:44:30.290
- and the wealth that God has allowed you to accumulate
- 00:44:30.290 --> 00:44:33.260
- and to make sure that you plan properly with that.
- 00:44:33.260 --> 00:44:36.296
- Please, call the number, get these brochures,
- 00:44:36.296 --> 00:44:40.000
- and let's move forward from there.
- 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.536
- Anyway.
- 00:44:42.536 --> 00:44:43.704
- TBN, and the mission in my life, when I was graduating
- 00:44:44.805 --> 00:44:46.940
- from Oral Roberts University,
- 00:44:46.940 --> 00:44:48.175
- I heard the Lord speak to me and say, "Tom,
- 00:44:48.175 --> 00:44:50.010
- I want you to reach a sight and sound generation
- 00:44:50.010 --> 00:44:52.613
- with the gospel of Jesus Christ."
- 00:44:52.613 --> 00:44:54.081
- Now being able to work with Matt and Laura and TBN network,
- 00:44:54.081 --> 00:44:58.218
- the largest Christian network,
- 00:44:58.218 --> 00:45:00.154
- not only ever in the history of the world,
- 00:45:00.154 --> 00:45:02.322
- but it's just growing at an exponential pace.
- 00:45:02.322 --> 00:45:06.093
- So what does that mean?
- 00:45:06.093 --> 00:45:07.327
- Exponential growth takes what?
- 00:45:07.327 --> 00:45:09.563
- Exponential growth in every single area.
- 00:45:09.563 --> 00:45:12.533
- That's so important.
- 00:45:12.533 --> 00:45:14.234
- So Governor, what's your mission? Why are you here on TBN?
- 00:45:14.234 --> 00:45:18.972
- - Well, I think it's important
- 00:45:19.606 --> 00:45:21.308
- to put a Christian worldview before the American public
- 00:45:21.308 --> 00:45:25.546
- and before the world.
- 00:45:25.546 --> 00:45:26.914
- So much of television programming today
- 00:45:27.781 --> 00:45:30.284
- is unwatchable for a person who has biblical convictions.
- 00:45:30.284 --> 00:45:34.321
- It's offensive. It's vulgar.
- 00:45:34.321 --> 00:45:36.390
- The profanity of the language.
- 00:45:37.024 --> 00:45:38.725
- The vulgarity of the topics is such that
- 00:45:38.725 --> 00:45:41.195
- you feel like you got to go take a shower
- 00:45:42.095 --> 00:45:43.530
- after you've watched a lot of television today.
- 00:45:43.530 --> 00:45:46.200
- So one of the things that I love about TBN is I know
- 00:45:46.200 --> 00:45:49.837
- that it's gonna be wholesome programming
- 00:45:49.837 --> 00:45:51.705
- 168 hours a week.
- 00:45:51.705 --> 00:45:54.875
- No matter what time a person watches it.
- 00:45:54.875 --> 00:45:56.777
- And TBN is on 24/7.
- 00:45:56.777 --> 00:45:59.713
- A person is not going to find their Christian worldview
- 00:45:59.713 --> 00:46:03.750
- attacked, assailed, assaulted.
- 00:46:03.750 --> 00:46:06.854
- They're gonna find it affirmed.
- 00:46:06.854 --> 00:46:08.722
- And that to me is very, very important.
- 00:46:08.722 --> 00:46:11.191
- But to be able to do a television show that is fun
- 00:46:11.191 --> 00:46:13.727
- and entertaining, because "The Huckabee Show" is designed
- 00:46:13.727 --> 00:46:16.430
- to have just enough politics to keep it interesting.
- 00:46:16.430 --> 00:46:19.299
- But I like to say it's not all politics,
- 00:46:19.299 --> 00:46:21.835
- 'cause that'd make your blood pressure 400 over 200,
- 00:46:21.835 --> 00:46:24.371
- and nobody needs that.
- 00:46:24.371 --> 00:46:26.440
- But we want to have entertaining things, informative things,
- 00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:31.044
- all of which, however,
- 00:46:31.044 --> 00:46:33.180
- if your seven year old walks through the room,
- 00:46:33.180 --> 00:46:35.816
- you don't have to run and put your hands over his eyes
- 00:46:35.816 --> 00:46:38.619
- and ears and say, "Oh, you're too little to watch this."
- 00:46:38.619 --> 00:46:41.121
- No, because I want it to be so that my seven grandchildren
- 00:46:41.121 --> 00:46:45.158
- could watch TBN
- 00:46:45.158 --> 00:46:46.460
- and I don't have to worry that their biblical worldview
- 00:46:47.594 --> 00:46:51.665
- and that which their parents are trying to teach them
- 00:46:51.665 --> 00:46:54.902
- is gonna be upended by what they see on TBN.
- 00:46:54.902 --> 00:46:58.338
- - That's good. You talked about your loot and your legacy.
- 00:46:58.338 --> 00:47:01.942
- And I love that, 'cause you know, you're a grandpa of seven.
- 00:47:01.942 --> 00:47:05.345
- I'm a grandpa of nine.
- 00:47:05.345 --> 00:47:06.847
- I win. - Wow.
- 00:47:06.847 --> 00:47:08.682
- I'm a slacker. - And I still got one
- 00:47:08.682 --> 00:47:09.750
- that's not quite started yet.
- 00:47:09.750 --> 00:47:11.685
- So we're hoping. - Yeah.
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- - We're hoping for that magic dozen, so come on.
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- Tell us some things that you do
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- with your grandkids as you're trying to pass on values.
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- - You know, I find, Tom,
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- that if all seven of them are together,
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- it's hard for me to break through because they're playing
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- with each other and I'm just,
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- I'm just the guy who's buying the tickets at that point.
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- But what I've done is,
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- I'm doing the same thing I did with my children
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- when they were small.
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- Every week,
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- I take one of my grandkids one-on-one to breakfast.
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- And we go and they pick the place
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- and we sit down and that's a time
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- that we just have together.
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- I find it when it's one-on-one, they open up,
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- they talk to me, we can talk about anything they want to.
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- And they got no one else to talk to. So it's gotta be me.
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- So we have that conversation, we have it over a meal.
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- Then I take them to school and drop them off.
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- Give them a big hug as they go off in their school day.
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- There are other things, you know,
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- whether it's having them over to our house for sleepovers.
- 00:48:08.442 --> 00:48:11.278
- I do some dumb things sometimes.
- 00:48:11.278 --> 00:48:12.913
- My now six year old, when he was four,
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- he's really big into Batman.
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- And so he had a Batman pajamas, Robin pajamas.
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- And he said.
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- - You got into rubber boots yet?
- 00:48:22.122 --> 00:48:23.523
- - Well, it gets worse.
- 00:48:23.523 --> 00:48:24.691
- He says, "Papa, let's do a sleepover.
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- And why don't you get some Batman pajamas and you can."
- 00:48:27.394 --> 00:48:31.465
- - Be Batman and I'll be Robin,
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- you know, I'm thinking, you gotta be kidding.
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- The good news is nobody sells pajamas
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- for a 60-something year old man.
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- Guess what? They do.
- 00:48:40.941 --> 00:48:42.976
- So what did I do?
- 00:48:42.976 --> 00:48:44.578
- - You got 'em? - I ordered them,
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- and we had our sleepover.
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- You'll never see the pictures of that ever,
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- but you know, for a four year old boy
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- to have that time with his grandfather in Batman pajamas
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- meant the world to him, and he still talks about it,
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- and how excited, and still, sometimes, two years later,
- 00:49:02.195 --> 00:49:04.865
- he'll say, "Hey, you still have your Batman pajamas?
- 00:49:04.865 --> 00:49:07.501
- "Can we do that again?"
- 00:49:07.501 --> 00:49:09.002
- - [Tom] Oh my God.
- 00:49:09.002 --> 00:49:10.504
- - Now see, he's gonna remember that as long as he lives,
- 00:49:10.504 --> 00:49:12.506
- and you know who else is going to remember it?
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- Me. - Pop-Pops.
- 00:49:14.541 --> 00:49:15.675
- - What a great, great time,
- 00:49:15.675 --> 00:49:17.277
- and so I try to create memories with each grandchild,
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- something that they'll never forget.
- 00:49:21.014 --> 00:49:22.883
- - That's really beautiful.
- 00:49:22.883 --> 00:49:24.418
- You know, when we were doing this cross-country journey
- 00:49:24.418 --> 00:49:27.821
- across Italy with Andrea Bocelli, 200 miles on horseback,
- 00:49:27.821 --> 00:49:31.158
- my granddaughter, Daisy Bernard, she loves horses,
- 00:49:32.192 --> 00:49:36.997
- and she's been taking horseback riding lessons,
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- and I'm sitting there thinking,
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- oh my gosh, we're going across to Italy, riding horses,
- 00:49:41.368 --> 00:49:45.272
- and Andrea Bocelli doesn't just have horses.
- 00:49:45.272 --> 00:49:48.308
- I mean, there's horses, and then there's horses.
- 00:49:48.308 --> 00:49:51.378
- He has horses.
- 00:49:51.378 --> 00:49:52.946
- And I just, seeing these all stallions,
- 00:49:52.946 --> 00:49:55.382
- he has these magnificent stallions that he has,
- 00:49:55.382 --> 00:49:59.352
- these amazing trainers with.
- 00:49:59.352 --> 00:50:00.921
- You know, he's serious about horseback riding.
- 00:50:00.921 --> 00:50:03.323
- This isn't a new thing for him.
- 00:50:03.323 --> 00:50:05.792
- In his ranch out in Lajatico,
- 00:50:05.792 --> 00:50:08.728
- he goes out by himself on this horse and just rides,
- 00:50:08.728 --> 00:50:12.899
- and I mean, he doesn't go slow.
- 00:50:12.899 --> 00:50:15.035
- He scares his wife all the time, Veronica,
- 00:50:15.035 --> 00:50:17.437
- because she doesn't like to ride near that fast.
- 00:50:17.437 --> 00:50:19.473
- But he goes out and does that.
- 00:50:19.473 --> 00:50:20.874
- Well, I had the opportunity call my daughter.
- 00:50:20.874 --> 00:50:22.542
- I said, listen, I think the last part of this,
- 00:50:22.542 --> 00:50:26.313
- you've got Taya from Hillsong singing "Oceans."
- 00:50:26.313 --> 00:50:28.648
- You've got these amazing people.
- 00:50:28.648 --> 00:50:30.150
- You should bring her over, because the resort
- 00:50:30.150 --> 00:50:31.952
- we're staying at, the last place,
- 00:50:31.952 --> 00:50:33.553
- and all these places were closed across Italy.
- 00:50:33.553 --> 00:50:35.956
- We are literally opening hotels
- 00:50:35.956 --> 00:50:37.657
- because the size of the crew.
- 00:50:37.657 --> 00:50:39.359
- they were so grateful that we came,
- 00:50:39.359 --> 00:50:41.928
- and we were able to leave, you know,
- 00:50:41.928 --> 00:50:43.763
- not only to help them in their economy and things this way,
- 00:50:43.763 --> 00:50:46.633
- but to pray with them and to bless them
- 00:50:46.633 --> 00:50:48.101
- and to encourage them.
- 00:50:48.101 --> 00:50:49.636
- My granddaughter came and she got to ride horseback
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- and to see these things.
- 00:50:51.972 --> 00:50:53.106
- She will never forget that,
- 00:50:53.106 --> 00:50:54.708
- but the legacies that she also saw,
- 00:50:54.708 --> 00:50:57.043
- you won't have dinner with Andrea Bocelli
- 00:50:57.944 --> 00:50:59.746
- where he doesn't talk about the goodness of God.
- 00:50:59.746 --> 00:51:02.849
- He truly loves the Lord, and he talks about it.
- 00:51:02.849 --> 00:51:05.986
- Now he's a Catholic guy.
- 00:51:05.986 --> 00:51:07.621
- His expression of faith is different than your and mine,
- 00:51:07.621 --> 00:51:10.790
- and his language is different because he speaks Italian
- 00:51:10.790 --> 00:51:13.093
- most of the time, and we might be having
- 00:51:13.093 --> 00:51:14.928
- a really good conversation,
- 00:51:14.928 --> 00:51:16.163
- and he just goes right off into Italian,
- 00:51:16.163 --> 00:51:17.898
- and expects me to track with him.
- 00:51:17.898 --> 00:51:19.466
- Well, I don't.
- 00:51:19.466 --> 00:51:20.767
- So I have to usually have an interpreter
- 00:51:20.767 --> 00:51:22.068
- whispering in my ear, but we have Chuck Hall,
- 00:51:22.068 --> 00:51:24.905
- who runs TBN Italy over there.
- 00:51:24.905 --> 00:51:27.374
- Chuck Hall was with us for the entire journey
- 00:51:27.374 --> 00:51:29.776
- in sharing with us and keeping us informed on how things go.
- 00:51:29.776 --> 00:51:32.746
- But you know what?
- 00:51:32.746 --> 00:51:34.047
- That all happens because Jan and Paul,
- 00:51:34.047 --> 00:51:36.983
- out of their relationship,
- 00:51:36.983 --> 00:51:38.218
- and part of their legacy was having Chuck Hall
- 00:51:38.218 --> 00:51:41.054
- and these other people who started these networks
- 00:51:41.054 --> 00:51:43.857
- all around the world, 32 networks around the world,
- 00:51:43.857 --> 00:51:46.760
- 14 languages continually, 24 hours a day.
- 00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:51.264
- And as I said earlier, we had the chance
- 00:51:51.264 --> 00:51:53.033
- to be with those guys for hours this week on a Zoom call,
- 00:51:53.033 --> 00:51:57.637
- talking about the future and how every one of them
- 00:51:57.637 --> 00:52:00.907
- is seeing explosive and expansive growth.
- 00:52:00.907 --> 00:52:04.911
- And it takes money to do that.
- 00:52:04.911 --> 00:52:07.480
- So leaving a legacy is important,
- 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.383
- and TBN, we believe is good soil to plant, so once again,
- 00:52:10.383 --> 00:52:15.288
- I'm gonna hold up these brochures.
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- Please consider calling the number on your screen right now.
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- We wanna provide these brochures to you,
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- 00:52:23.330 --> 00:52:26.533
- Again, I am not a financial advisor, but I do know this,
- 00:52:26.533 --> 00:52:30.737
- that we have the opportunity to make some amazing programs,
- 00:52:30.737 --> 00:52:33.940
- to see the network expand and grow like never before
- 00:52:33.940 --> 00:52:37.444
- and a legacy that you'll be proud of
- 00:52:37.444 --> 00:52:39.746
- for generations to come.
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- Please call that number and talk with someone there.
- 00:52:41.481 --> 00:52:44.084
- Karen, any final thoughts?
- 00:52:44.084 --> 00:52:45.819
- - Yeah, I've really been inspired by this discussion
- 00:52:45.819 --> 00:52:48.922
- from both of you, and something I was thinking about
- 00:52:48.922 --> 00:52:51.958
- is that there are people that would never step foot
- 00:52:51.958 --> 00:52:56.429
- in church, there's people that can't go to church
- 00:52:56.429 --> 00:52:59.933
- because of where they live, but others,
- 00:52:59.933 --> 00:53:01.968
- maybe they don't feel worthy, but you know what?
- 00:53:01.968 --> 00:53:05.739
- They're watching television,
- 00:53:05.739 --> 00:53:07.874
- or they're maybe gonna catch something
- 00:53:07.874 --> 00:53:10.744
- like you've described, with these programs.
- 00:53:10.744 --> 00:53:13.213
- So TBN is reaching people that are not in church
- 00:53:13.213 --> 00:53:17.951
- and they won't hear the gospel
- 00:53:17.951 --> 00:53:20.220
- if they don't hear it from TBN.
- 00:53:20.220 --> 00:53:22.622
- And so, we get confirmation of that all the time.
- 00:53:22.622 --> 00:53:26.393
- And also I was thinking about Deuteronomy 8:18,
- 00:53:26.393 --> 00:53:29.296
- as we've been visiting, and we do all have different gifts
- 00:53:29.296 --> 00:53:32.165
- and talents, you've mentioned that, and God gives us
- 00:53:32.165 --> 00:53:35.101
- the creative power to create wealth
- 00:53:35.101 --> 00:53:39.472
- for the purposes of building the kingdom.
- 00:53:39.472 --> 00:53:42.609
- - That's beautiful. - And so,
- 00:53:42.609 --> 00:53:43.810
- there's some people that are called to doing
- 00:53:43.810 --> 00:53:45.578
- what you're doing, Tom and Governor Huckabee,
- 00:53:45.578 --> 00:53:47.480
- what you're doing.
- 00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:48.682
- Other people are called to business,
- 00:53:48.682 --> 00:53:51.618
- but we've all been given the gifts and talents
- 00:53:51.618 --> 00:53:54.220
- to create wealth for purposes of building the kingdom.
- 00:53:54.220 --> 00:53:58.491
- And what better way to invest those gifts and talents
- 00:53:58.491 --> 00:54:02.762
- that God's given us than into TBN,
- 00:54:02.762 --> 00:54:05.365
- to help bring people to Jesus?
- 00:54:05.365 --> 00:54:07.467
- - That's beautiful.
- 00:54:07.467 --> 00:54:08.935
- Today, I hope you discovered you can make your legacy
- 00:54:08.935 --> 00:54:12.872
- a kingdom legacy.
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- When you call the number on your screen or go to the website
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- and make TBN a part of your financial planning,
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- you will leave a legacy for eternity.
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- Our Living Legacy team is standing by,
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- step-by-step through the process.
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- Governor, thanks so much for coming and sharing your story,
- 00:54:34.194 --> 00:54:37.597
- being the senior advisor to your grandkids.
- 00:54:37.597 --> 00:54:39.966
- That's awesome, and best of luck with Sarah
- 00:54:39.966 --> 00:54:42.836
- and her campaign. - Thank you.
- 00:54:42.836 --> 00:54:44.204
- - We'll be pulling for her and praying for her.
- 00:54:44.204 --> 00:54:46.773
- Karen, thanks for making time to do this
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- and for putting this stuff together,
- 00:54:48.708 --> 00:54:50.810
- just to help folks, because you know,
- 00:54:50.810 --> 00:54:53.446
- it took us doing a little bit of planning
- 00:54:53.446 --> 00:54:56.249
- to help others to start that process.
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- Thank you for what you do to make that possible.
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- And thank you, TBN partners for all you do all the time
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- to continue to let us be on the air,
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- sharing the good news of Jesus Christ.
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