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Praise | Rabbi Jason Sobel: Rediscovering Scripture | Praise | June 10, 2026
- Coming up tonight on praise
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- Why are you breaking things?
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- We are looking to break a lot of the misconceptions
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- That people have that maybe these are just kind of cute,
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- Nice little animals going into the ark.
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- Is that sweet, nice little rainbow.
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- Everyone's smiling and cheery.
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- Why do you have to walk in here and break stuff?
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- Tonight on praise from dallas.
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- Founder of fusion global and new york times
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- Bestselling author, rabbi jason sobel.
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- And now your host,
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- Matt and laurie crouse.
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- Jason sobel, you're known for mysteries of the messiah
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- Transformed by the messiah.
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- Lots of different kind of series that you've done.
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- This is a brand new one.
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- We're going to be talking about tonight.
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- Is that breaking sunday school?
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- Breaking sunday school.
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- So, it feels like what
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- We learned in sunday school with kind of a felt bored.
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- Jesus, that you're kind of taking issue with
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- Some of the things we would have learned early on as little
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- We little kids, noah's ark kind of stuff.
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- David and goliath creation.
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- Jesus walking on the water.
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- These types of concepts you're taking on.
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- And why do you have to walk in here and break stuff?
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- I mean, come on.
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- He's adding to our stories.
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- He titled it your break and stuff.
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- What are you breaking and why?
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- What are we breaking?
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- That is a great concept in first.
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- Thank you for having me.
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- I think what we're doing is we are looking to break
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- A lot of the misconceptions that people have,
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- That maybe these are just kind of cute, nice
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- Little animals going into the ark
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- Is and that sweet, nice little rainbow.
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- Everyone's smiling and chew me right. and
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- There's more to the story.
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- So we're breaking misconceptions and we're breaking open
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- The scriptures to help people see the more to the story.
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- Okay. yeah.
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- So why are you breaking things?
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- Because they're wrong and they need to be broken.
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- I mean,
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- You you know, this is a title that you're put your name on.
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- So why are you breaking stuff?
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- Again, i think what we're saying by when we're breaking it is,
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- I think so
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- Many times that we need to understand
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- Is that when we look at the bible simply through
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- A western, context,
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- That's not the original historic context
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- That jesus in the bible lived in.
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- Oftentimes we either get some of the things wrong
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- Or we don't fully understand everything that's happening.
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- And so i think it's important to do that
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- Because when we do, it begins to like break down
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- Those false misconception
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- And it begins to break open the deeper
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- Meaning of what's actually happening. and break it down.
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- Much like when we're sitting at a dinner together
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- And i make some kind of
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- Theological statement, and then you take the next 45 minutes
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- Kind of correcting everything i just said,
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- Is that kind of what this whole.
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- I was saying, maybe he's adding more to this story.
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- He's making it better.
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- Don't ever start an argument with him.
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- He fine.
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- Yeah. seriously, you just never win.
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- So, at some point,
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- I think you win the the, teacher apple award.
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- And, we've set you up kind of a classroom here, right?
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- This is going to involve, full studio audience.
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- You're bringing in, an entire group here.
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- And by the way, what, what an amazing production
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- You've got these, you know, kind of.
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- First of all, you know what?
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- What an amazing studio you've even got,
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- You know, the the windows and the trees blowing around,
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- And you know, this this whole new studios.
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- Yeah. brand new series is going to be airing here on tbn.
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- Break it down.
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- And, let's start with something.
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- I like this concept that maybe
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- The traditions of man need to be reexamined.
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- You know, culturally, occasionally
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- We get these misconceptions that this meant that.
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- Why don't you just start with one
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- Wherever you want to go here, jason.
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- But give us an example of a tradition
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- That kind of got created due
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- To a misconception of a story from the bible itself.
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- Yeah, absolutely.
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- I mean, think about the, story of noah's ark.
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- Okay. it's for a moment, right?
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- And it's such an important story to understand because, again,
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- We think about it as he remembered
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- Growing up reading the cute little color books
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- And the nice little animals, going into the ark.
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- I have a veggietales version of noah's ark in my office.
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- Let's break sunday school,
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- Because noah's ark is about more than rainbows
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- And cute little animals that god preserves.
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- It says no was a righteous man.
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- Sadique ishtar meme whole complete,
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- Perfect in his generation doesn't mean he was without sin.
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- It meant that he was undivided in his devotion to god.
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- It meant that he wasn't tainted by the corruption
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- That was happening in the days of noah.
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- God found noah righteous, but it wasn't
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- His actions that was the source of his righteousness.
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- Because hebrews 11 tells us that noah built by faith,
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- He built for rain when no one had ever seen rain or a flood.
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- Because that's the reality
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- We are always made righteous through and by faith.
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- And noah is a great example of someone who had
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- A risky, pioneering faith.
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- One of the
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- Real significance of noah's ark
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- Is not just what it meant for that day, but jesus
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- Makes a very significant point in the new testament.
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- He says, as it was in the days of noah,
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- So will it be in the days of the son of man?
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- So jesus is equating the time before his return
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- With the time of what it was like in the days of noah.
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- And what was it like in the days of noah?
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- Why did god even bring the flood to begin with?
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- Well, the text tells us very clearly.
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- It says there was violence in the earth,
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- And the word there for violence in hebrew is hamas.
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- Maybe that sounds familiar.
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- Are you kidding?
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- No, i'm 100% serious.
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- The reason why god brings the flood
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- Is because there's hamas in the earth,
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- Which is the word for violence and agrees the heart of god.
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- And he brings a flood.
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- Now, hamas can mean violence.
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- It can mean to kidnap.
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- It can mean to sexually abuse.
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- It can mean lawlessness.
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- But in its extreme form of violence.
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- And we know there is an
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- Organization by that name that did all of those things
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- On october 7th, and i believe
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- It is one of the prophetic signs
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- That we are living in the days of noah.
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- Just like there was hamas in noah's day.
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- We're seeing the rise of hamas.
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- Not saying it literally means this organization,
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- But that same spirit that was in the earth is embodied by them.
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- And we see a rise of hate around the world.
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- And again,
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- This is part of what it was that jesus is talking about
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- When he says,
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- In the days of noah, that's one aspect of it,
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- And there's many other aspects to it.
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- So what you're doing is you're taking
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- What would have been a cute little story.
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- And veggietales makes, you know, a little playset out of it
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- And you're adding a level of depth to it that is, sobering.
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- Yeah, because think about it.
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- I mean, it's on different levels, right?
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- So on the one level, we know it connects to a picture
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- Of what it's going to happen, the beginning points at the end.
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- We know that there's something really interesting,
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- Another piece behind it that we get into on this show
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- Is the background for the flood of noah is the banana elohim.
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- The sons of god come down and have relationship
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- With the daughters of men, and they produce this
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- Race of individuals known as the nephilim.
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- And nephilim literally means from the hebrew,
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- The fallen ones.
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- And they were the gibbering,
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- The mighty warriors, the men of renowned from old
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- Is what genesis chapter six tells us.
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- And how does that connect to what we see going on today?
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- Well, some of the most ancient interpretations of the nephilim
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- Was that these angelic spiritual beings came down
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- And had relationships with the daughters
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- Of men, produce this kind of hybrid offspring,
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- And that were kind of evil, and they were the ones behind
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- That violence.
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- But again, this is being replayed today
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- Because removing, in a sense, back to creating hybrids.
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- We see with artificial intelligence,
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- They're talking about
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- The merging of man and machine known as singularity,
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- That that we're going
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- To be connected
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- To the web, that they're going to be able to improve us.
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- And it seems like, again, we're moving towards
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- Some sort of hybrid that we're crossing some sort of boundaries
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- That fundamentally could potentially alter the way
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- God designed us.
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- As you and i, have a suggestion,
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- Maybe the
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- If you see how it says back here breaking sunday school,
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- Maybe that ought to say breaking university level
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- Phd, doctorate level studies.
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- You know, it's not as it's not as catchy as breaking sunday.
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- But then we get into other things
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- With the noah's ark story, which is kind of like
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- How it points to jesus.
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- Think about the beautiful imagery of noah's ark in jesus.
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- So number one, there's one door in the ark
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- That you can enter into, just like jesus says, i am the door.
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- There is no other way to enter
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- Into eternal life but through one door.
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- And guess what?
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- There are three levels in the ark. why?
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- Because i believe it's a picture of god himself,
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- Father, son, and holy spirit.
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- And when you enter into the ark, what level do you enter into?
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- Into it.
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- The noah enter into it by on the second level,
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- Which symbolizes the son.
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- The only way you can enter into the very thing that symbolizes
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- Protection, salvation, and security
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- Is by going through the second, the son, the middle,
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- The mediator, or think about it.
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- Noah's ark was made out of wood.
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- So salvation
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- And the preservation of life came through this wooden object
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- In the same way jesus dies on a wooden cross in order
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- To become our redemption and our salvation.
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- So there's all these amazing parallels between noah's
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- Ark in the person of jesus, because it all points to him
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- One way or the other.
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- He's the center of all the entirety of the bible.
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- He's the center of every story. yeah.
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- Maybe we should rename the show expanding sunday school.
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- Maybe that's a better. maybe that's a better title.
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- Okay.
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- If, you know, go back to creation.
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- Noah's ark.
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- David and goliath.
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- Tower of babel.
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- Let's do that one. what?
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- What do you what do you got to expand?
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- Oh, on the tower map.
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- So when we look at the man behind the building
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- Of the tower of babel, his name was nimrod.
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- And nimrods name tells us a lot.
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- His name literally means let us rebel.
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- So the first city is built out of a rebellion
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- Against god and against the will of god.
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- He's also called a g boar.
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- And that is one of the words
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- In genesis six used of the nephilim.
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- So is there an allusion or some kind of connection back?
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- And then we know that nimrod wants to build two things.
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- He wants to build a city, but he also wants to build a tower.
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- The city represents containment.
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- It represents centralization.
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- It represents population control.
- 00:13:12.414 --> 00:13:15.351
- And it directly rebels against the first commandment
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- To be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.
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- God says, go out.
- 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:25.628
- And nimrod wants people to stay. why?
- 00:13:25.628 --> 00:13:29.798
- Because the power of the king is in how many subjects he has
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- To rule over.
- 00:13:33.569 --> 00:13:35.004
- But then there's something more.
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- Build a tower.
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- What is a tower represent?
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- A tower represents control y control,
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- Because the high ground is the strategic advantage militarily.
- 00:13:45.414 --> 00:13:50.386
- So it represents power, but it also represents surveillance.
- 00:13:50.386 --> 00:13:54.456
- It is a bird's eye view to keep your eye on everyone
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- And everything to know what is happening.
- 00:13:58.594 --> 00:14:01.897
- And so this ties in to another hebrew
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- Phrase in genesis 11 one describing
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- That time, it says safa a al-haj ibrahim academe.
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- It says there was one language and few words.
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- What does that mean?
- 00:14:17.746 --> 00:14:18.981
- Nimrod was controlling the language of the people.
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- He was controlling the information.
- 00:14:23.218 --> 00:14:25.988
- He was controlling the worldview and people's thoughts in order
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- To manipulate them and get them to do what he wanted to do.
- 00:14:30.592 --> 00:14:35.364
- Words are powerful.
- 00:14:35.364 --> 00:14:37.766
- And so free speech is the enemy of babel.
- 00:14:37.766 --> 00:14:42.037
- And then we see there is a journey.
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- They journey from the east towards
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- This plane in the plane of shinar.
- 00:14:47.676 --> 00:14:51.547
- And the hebrew word for east is macadam,
- 00:14:51.547 --> 00:14:55.517
- Which is a very significant biblical hebrew word,
- 00:14:55.517 --> 00:14:59.154
- And it implies going away from.
- 00:14:59.154 --> 00:15:02.257
- So the question is, what were they going away from?
- 00:15:02.257 --> 00:15:05.594
- Well away from where the ark landed.
- 00:15:05.594 --> 00:15:07.930
- But something more
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- The rabbi see in allusions there to the hebrew name cardamon,
- 00:15:09.398 --> 00:15:13.769
- Which is one of the names of god in jewish tradition,
- 00:15:13.769 --> 00:15:17.539
- That means the ancient one.
- 00:15:17.539 --> 00:15:19.675
- And so what they were doing was trying to move away
- 00:15:19.675 --> 00:15:23.178
- From god himself, move away from the will of god,
- 00:15:23.178 --> 00:15:27.516
- And they travel to separate themselves from the lord.
- 00:15:27.516 --> 00:15:33.689
- Here's where it gets really crazy.
- 00:15:34.423 --> 00:15:36.992
- First of all, if you're going to build a tower to heaven,
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- You don't build it in a valley.
- 00:15:40.696 --> 00:15:43.465
- You would build it on a high point,
- 00:15:43.465 --> 00:15:45.334
- Because you'd have to build
- 00:15:45.334 --> 00:15:47.169
- Less amount of effort and materials to build it.
- 00:15:47.169 --> 00:15:51.206
- So why do they build a tower to heaven in a valley?
- 00:15:51.206 --> 00:15:54.710
- Well, this is interesting.
- 00:15:54.710 --> 00:15:55.978
- It says they go to the east.
- 00:15:55.978 --> 00:15:58.247
- The hebrew word is macadam.
- 00:15:58.247 --> 00:16:00.949
- And it's always a means in hebrew, a movement
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- Away from something.
- 00:16:03.585 --> 00:16:05.120
- Well, what were they moving away from?
- 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:07.723
- The deeper meaning is not from a geographic location.
- 00:16:07.723 --> 00:16:11.960
- It's from one of god's name is from the same root.
- 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.097
- Codman. the ancient one.
- 00:16:15.097 --> 00:16:17.032
- So they're literally moving away from god, trying to establish
- 00:16:17.032 --> 00:16:21.036
- A city and society and to establish their own.
- 00:16:21.036 --> 00:16:25.207
- Well, apart from god's will, they're trying to get
- 00:16:25.207 --> 00:16:27.609
- As far away from him as they can.
- 00:16:27.609 --> 00:16:30.813
- But here's the here's the real breaking sunday school part.
- 00:16:30.813 --> 00:16:33.916
- Okay. it says
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- They found a
- 00:16:36.185 --> 00:16:37.653
- Car, which is usually translated from the hebrew as a valley.
- 00:16:37.653 --> 00:16:41.223
- It can mean valley, but it literally means in hebrew
- 00:16:42.257 --> 00:16:45.394
- To split open
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- Or to uncover.
- 00:16:48.497 --> 00:16:50.499
- And so another interpretation of this
- 00:16:50.499 --> 00:16:53.368
- Is not that they found a valley, but that they actually
- 00:16:53.368 --> 00:16:58.073
- Were digging in a valley and made a discovery.
- 00:16:58.073 --> 00:17:02.945
- And what was the discovery that they found?
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- They found the
- 00:17:05.747 --> 00:17:08.917
- They found the secret, hidden
- 00:17:09.551 --> 00:17:12.488
- Knowledge of the generation of the flood
- 00:17:12.488 --> 00:17:16.058
- That learned how to call down demons
- 00:17:16.058 --> 00:17:19.761
- And manipulate angelic principalities and powers.
- 00:17:19.761 --> 00:17:24.666
- And they were able to summon the spirits again, which
- 00:17:24.666 --> 00:17:28.770
- Then empowered them to build this city to the heaven.
- 00:17:28.770 --> 00:17:33.609
- And it's what emboldened them
- 00:17:33.609 --> 00:17:35.344
- To think that they could take on god himself
- 00:17:35.344 --> 00:17:38.580
- Because they felt they had were able to control
- 00:17:38.580 --> 00:17:42.551
- Through manipulation.
- 00:17:43.051 --> 00:17:44.520
- These demonic spiritual beings or partner with them.
- 00:17:44.520 --> 00:17:47.923
- It's kind of like
- 00:17:47.923 --> 00:17:49.258
- When we go to israel, we've been to israel together.
- 00:17:49.258 --> 00:17:51.326
- It's been amazing, right?
- 00:17:51.326 --> 00:17:52.761
- And you go to the dead sea and there's qumran.
- 00:17:52.761 --> 00:17:57.099
- And what is the important discovered
- 00:17:57.099 --> 00:17:59.001
- That they found in the dead sea? the what scrolls.
- 00:17:59.001 --> 00:18:02.371
- Right. and sea scrolls.
- 00:18:02.871 --> 00:18:04.840
- And those scrolls are from how long ago?
- 00:18:04.840 --> 00:18:07.342
- Thousands of years.
- 00:18:07.809 --> 00:18:08.810
- Thousands of years. so what happened?
- 00:18:08.810 --> 00:18:11.513
- There was a religious community out there,
- 00:18:11.513 --> 00:18:13.549
- Their most valuable possession, whether sacred text.
- 00:18:13.549 --> 00:18:16.718
- When the romans were coming, they hid those sacred texts
- 00:18:16.718 --> 00:18:19.721
- And thousands of years later, we discovered the text again.
- 00:18:19.721 --> 00:18:24.259
- It seems implied.
- 00:18:24.693 --> 00:18:26.261
- One way to read the text
- 00:18:26.261 --> 00:18:27.496
- Is that's exactly what happened when the flood began to occur.
- 00:18:27.496 --> 00:18:30.699
- That generation said, we have to hide and bury this wisdom
- 00:18:30.699 --> 00:18:34.436
- To preserve it for those who survived the flood.
- 00:18:34.436 --> 00:18:37.940
- And this generation under nimrod found this sacred
- 00:18:37.940 --> 00:18:43.312
- And secret knowledge and again used witchcraft in manipulation.
- 00:18:43.312 --> 00:18:47.783
- And there's all
- 00:18:47.783 --> 00:18:48.850
- Sorts of interesting things that come around that.
- 00:18:48.850 --> 00:18:51.720
- So that's certainly not in
- 00:18:52.287 --> 00:18:53.522
- Most people's reading of sunday school.
- 00:18:53.522 --> 00:18:55.524
- Some say they made a breach.
- 00:18:55.524 --> 00:18:57.259
- Maybe they didn't find that information,
- 00:18:57.259 --> 00:18:59.528
- But they were able to somehow
- 00:18:59.528 --> 00:19:01.029
- Breach the divide between heaven and earth and again
- 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:05.000
- Interact with this demonic spiritual realm.
- 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:08.637
- And they wanted to make a name for themselves.
- 00:19:08.637 --> 00:19:12.574
- What's interesting is that one of the names for god
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- Is the name.
- 00:19:16.044 --> 00:19:17.079
- The name above all name.
- 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:18.413
- In a sense, they were trying to make
- 00:19:18.413 --> 00:19:19.848
- Themselves god or make a god other than the god, through
- 00:19:19.848 --> 00:19:24.486
- Harnessing these spiritual principalities and powers.
- 00:19:24.486 --> 00:19:28.857
- Jason sobel, you are clearly breaking some.
- 00:19:28.857 --> 00:19:32.961
- Well, you've heard people call it is broken.
- 00:19:33.862 --> 00:19:36.665
- Somebody's a nimrod. yeah.
- 00:19:36.665 --> 00:19:39.301
- Well, yeah.
- 00:19:39.301 --> 00:19:40.802
- Know we know.
- 00:19:40.802 --> 00:19:41.737
- He came on the school ground, you know.
- 00:19:41.737 --> 00:19:43.705
- Rebellion, right? that's right.
- 00:19:43.705 --> 00:19:45.807
- Yeah.
- 00:19:45.807 --> 00:19:46.708
- You you, nimrod, you know, that's what
- 00:19:46.708 --> 00:19:49.544
- I was always wondering where that name come.
- 00:19:50.445 --> 00:19:52.714
- It's always one among us.
- 00:19:52.714 --> 00:19:54.883
- Okay, our second question comes from liz.
- 00:19:54.883 --> 00:19:56.918
- She's one of our virtual viewers.
- 00:19:56.918 --> 00:19:59.254
- Liz asks if god knew humanity was going to sin
- 00:19:59.254 --> 00:20:03.525
- And jesus would pay the price before creating us.
- 00:20:03.525 --> 00:20:06.728
- Then why did he create us at all?
- 00:20:06.728 --> 00:20:09.298
- Also in genesis
- 00:20:09.298 --> 00:20:10.532
- It says how god was hovering over the waters before creating.
- 00:20:10.532 --> 00:20:13.602
- So where did it come from?
- 00:20:13.602 --> 00:20:16.138
- These are great questions.
- 00:20:16.138 --> 00:20:18.340
- Don't ask me simple questions.
- 00:20:18.340 --> 00:20:20.375
- I guess you to throw the hard questions
- 00:20:20.375 --> 00:20:23.545
- That theologians
- 00:20:23.545 --> 00:20:24.613
- Have been wrestling with from time and eternity.
- 00:20:24.613 --> 00:20:27.883
- I'll give it a stab.
- 00:20:27.883 --> 00:20:29.618
- So i think here's the reality.
- 00:20:29.618 --> 00:20:31.687
- We're made but sound.
- 00:20:31.687 --> 00:20:32.888
- We were made in god's image.
- 00:20:32.888 --> 00:20:35.624
- To be made in god's image.
- 00:20:35.624 --> 00:20:37.359
- Means just like god has free will and volition.
- 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.296
- We have to have free will in order for there to be free will.
- 00:20:41.296 --> 00:20:45.667
- There has to be a free choice.
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- A real choice that we make because
- 00:20:47.436 --> 00:20:50.672
- We could have been made with no choice.
- 00:20:50.672 --> 00:20:53.742
- But then we're robots.
- 00:20:54.209 --> 00:20:56.011
- If we're made with no choice,
- 00:20:56.011 --> 00:20:58.513
- You can't actually love god.
- 00:20:58.513 --> 00:21:01.483
- Because love has to be a choice.
- 00:21:01.483 --> 00:21:03.819
- It cannot be commanded. it has to be.
- 00:21:03.819 --> 00:21:06.121
- It cannot be legislated.
- 00:21:06.121 --> 00:21:07.723
- It has to be of our free will.
- 00:21:07.723 --> 00:21:09.925
- So i think that is the underlying reason
- 00:21:09.925 --> 00:21:12.694
- Why there had to be a choice in the beginning,
- 00:21:12.694 --> 00:21:15.464
- Because we had to have
- 00:21:15.464 --> 00:21:16.865
- The opportunity to choose god or not to choose god.
- 00:21:16.865 --> 00:21:20.635
- To choose faith or not to choose faith.
- 00:21:20.635 --> 00:21:23.205
- And i think that is part of the reason
- 00:21:23.205 --> 00:21:25.006
- Why god made the world even knowing what would happen,
- 00:21:25.006 --> 00:21:28.677
- And having to have a plan to correct what would occur.
- 00:21:28.677 --> 00:21:33.515
- And so that's a little bit about that question.
- 00:21:33.515 --> 00:21:35.217
- I love the thank you, rabbi.
- 00:21:35.217 --> 00:21:36.785
- You deal with things like creation, noah's ark.
- 00:21:36.785 --> 00:21:40.489
- David, wait.
- 00:21:40.822 --> 00:21:42.758
- Tower. babel. walking on the water pool.
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- The bethesda.
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- Prodigal son. resurrection.
- 00:21:45.761 --> 00:21:47.963
- This is not your kind of felt bored.
- 00:21:47.963 --> 00:21:50.665
- Jesus. this is.
- 00:21:50.665 --> 00:21:51.967
- This is going deep from these
- 00:21:51.967 --> 00:21:55.737
- Little lessons that we would have
- 00:21:55.737 --> 00:21:58.306
- Learned a little bit about in sunday school.
- 00:21:58.306 --> 00:22:01.777
- And you're taking them, into the deep, into the adult life.
- 00:22:01.777 --> 00:22:05.714
- And of course, we get into how they apply today
- 00:22:05.714 --> 00:22:09.217
- And how we see it playing out in the world today.
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- Okay,
- 00:22:11.553 --> 00:22:12.554
- Let's do, david and goliath give us a little
- 00:22:12.554 --> 00:22:15.791
- One of my favorite. one of my.
- 00:22:15.791 --> 00:22:18.760
- We've all heard the story
- 00:22:18.760 --> 00:22:20.195
- Of david and goliath in sunday school.
- 00:22:20.195 --> 00:22:23.799
- We've probably watched the movie, but,
- 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:27.369
- There's something more.
- 00:22:27.369 --> 00:22:29.070
- I mean, david, think about it for a moment.
- 00:22:29.070 --> 00:22:31.840
- David was more than a boy.
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- He was a shepherd, and he was a warrior.
- 00:22:34.443 --> 00:22:38.146
- David.
- 00:22:38.346 --> 00:22:39.581
- David in hebrew means beloved because he was a lover of god.
- 00:22:39.581 --> 00:22:43.685
- He was a worshiper of god.
- 00:22:43.685 --> 00:22:45.587
- And that's what made him such a great warrior for god.
- 00:22:45.587 --> 00:22:50.559
- But david is also a type of the messiah.
- 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:54.129
- The messiah was going to come from the lineage of david.
- 00:22:54.129 --> 00:22:58.099
- David was a shepherd, but he was also a royal shepherd.
- 00:22:58.099 --> 00:23:02.604
- And messiah is the greater son of david.
- 00:23:02.604 --> 00:23:06.041
- And that's why we read this promise in ezekiel 34.
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- I will set up one shepherd over them.
- 00:23:09.878 --> 00:23:12.814
- My servant david.
- 00:23:12.814 --> 00:23:15.417
- And that's why i read about that famous
- 00:23:15.417 --> 00:23:18.520
- Promise in prophecy.
- 00:23:18.520 --> 00:23:20.822
- Out of bethlehem shall come a ruler
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- For me, who will shepherd my people.
- 00:23:24.025 --> 00:23:28.497
- The greater david was to be a shepherd.
- 00:23:28.497 --> 00:23:31.466
- And both were born in bethlehem.
- 00:23:31.466 --> 00:23:33.668
- Both were shepherds before they were kings.
- 00:23:33.668 --> 00:23:36.738
- Both were lovers of god,
- 00:23:36.738 --> 00:23:39.241
- And both were willing to lay down their lives.
- 00:23:39.241 --> 00:23:43.478
- And that's why issue was said.
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- I am the good shepherd.
- 00:23:45.113 --> 00:23:49.251
- Names are so important in the bible.
- 00:23:50.018 --> 00:23:52.354
- So to really understand what is happening in this story,
- 00:23:52.354 --> 00:23:55.857
- We have to understand goliath's name.
- 00:23:55.857 --> 00:23:58.927
- His name in hebrew is gold yot, and it comes from the hebrew
- 00:23:58.927 --> 00:24:02.898
- Word goliath, which means to uncover,
- 00:24:02.898 --> 00:24:07.536
- To reveal, or to exile.
- 00:24:08.036 --> 00:24:10.939
- So if goliath was a wrestler, he'd be like the
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- Expose or god or the exile.
- 00:24:14.276 --> 00:24:17.712
- Well, why is that important, practically speaking?
- 00:24:17.712 --> 00:24:20.515
- Think about it for a moment.
- 00:24:20.515 --> 00:24:23.151
- Giants always expose what's in our heart.
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- When we face a giant, it exposes whether we have true faith
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- Or whether we're actually living by fear.
- 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:34.496
- When goliath presents himself
- 00:24:34.496 --> 00:24:37.899
- And blasphemes god, the children of israel
- 00:24:38.767 --> 00:24:41.670
- Are cowering in their tent in fear.
- 00:24:41.670 --> 00:24:44.839
- It exposes their lack of faith, their fear and their unbelief.
- 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:49.678
- Then comes david, the little shepherd boy.
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- He has this great faith
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- To face the goliath, and he's able to do so.
- 00:24:54.849 --> 00:24:58.019
- And we know that he takes the five smooth stones we get into.
- 00:24:58.019 --> 00:25:01.523
- Why five and what's the significance of all that?
- 00:25:01.523 --> 00:25:04.726
- But the other interesting thing about goliath is this
- 00:25:04.726 --> 00:25:07.862
- It comes from
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- The same word that forms the background for goliath,
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- Exposing.
- 00:25:13.468 --> 00:25:16.404
- Is the same word for golgotha.
- 00:25:16.404 --> 00:25:19.307
- Wow.
- 00:25:19.307 --> 00:25:20.342
- The place where jesus died. wow.
- 00:25:20.342 --> 00:25:22.577
- So there's actually a connection between the story of david
- 00:25:22.577 --> 00:25:27.282
- And goliath and jesus, and what he does on the cross.
- 00:25:27.282 --> 00:25:31.353
- So think about the connection.
- 00:25:31.353 --> 00:25:34.389
- David faces goliath.
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- All right.
- 00:25:37.192 --> 00:25:39.127
- And what is goliath wearing?
- 00:25:39.127 --> 00:25:41.229
- He's wearing scaly bronze armor.
- 00:25:41.229 --> 00:25:45.767
- The word for bronze
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- Is the same word for serpent in hebrew.
- 00:25:48.837 --> 00:25:52.140
- The serpent in the garden.
- 00:25:52.140 --> 00:25:53.575
- Genesis 316.
- 00:25:53.575 --> 00:25:55.110
- The noncash copper is not hachette.
- 00:25:55.110 --> 00:25:57.846
- It's from the same root, and it's scaly.
- 00:25:57.846 --> 00:26:00.315
- So there's a sense in which goliath represents satan.
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- He's a type of satan.
- 00:26:04.352 --> 00:26:05.587
- He's a type of the serpent.
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- He's a type of the fallen one.
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- Okay.
- 00:26:09.791 --> 00:26:11.593
- Israel is scared of him.
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- And david alone by himself as the representative
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- Of israel, does battle against the goliath.
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- And his getting the victory
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- Doesn't just get the victory for himself.
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- His defeating goliath
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- Brings redemption and victory for the entire people.
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- Wow. as the representative.
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- Okay. he cuts off goliath's head.
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- This is messiah putting the feet of the serpent
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- Under the head of the serpent underneath his feet.
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- So there's all these analogies between the battle of jesus
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- On the cross with the story of david
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- And goliath that goes much deeper.
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- And then what's beautiful two is why on golgotha.
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- Because just like david defeated death
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- And his name was goliath, right?
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- Issue.
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- It defeats the enemy of all people
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- On the place.
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- It shares the same root, brings a victory,
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- And it means to roll away.
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- Why? because on the cross
- 00:27:22.630 --> 00:27:25.433
- He began to roll away the power of death.
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- He began to roll away the power of shame.
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- He began to roll away the power of guilt.
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- Because he died on golgotha.
- 00:27:35.610 --> 00:27:38.780
- And he exposes that now the devil has
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- No power over us on the basis of what he's done.
- 00:27:41.249 --> 00:27:44.319
- And then he dies, and he rises on the third day.
- 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.156
- And what do they show?
- 00:27:48.156 --> 00:27:49.457
- What happens when they come to the tomb?
- 00:27:49.457 --> 00:27:50.992
- They found the stone rolled away.
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- Same root
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- And it's the same root of the place in the book of joshua.
- 00:27:55.563 --> 00:27:58.066
- They named the place gilgal,
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- Which says, god has rolled away our reproach.
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- And so by his death and resurrection,
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- He's rolled away the reproach
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- Of our sin and wrongdoing, and defeated the goliath.
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- And it's a beautiful thing.
- 00:28:10.845 --> 00:28:13.548
- And the you just roll in that fun.
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- If you just tuned in, we are here in dallas, texas.
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- One of our brand new studios has been turned into a classroom.
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- Let's go to the new testament.
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- Walking on water.
- 00:28:26.928 --> 00:28:29.364
- It's of particular interest,
- 00:28:29.364 --> 00:28:33.568
- Because we have to seem to do that all the time.
- 00:28:33.568 --> 00:28:37.705
- Yeah.
- 00:28:37.705 --> 00:28:38.373
- But but i remember being in,
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- Just outside the little city of capernaum
- 00:28:42.310 --> 00:28:44.712
- That was the headquarters of jesus ministry.
- 00:28:44.712 --> 00:28:48.183
- And, i've been on the sea of galilee with you.
- 00:28:48.183 --> 00:28:51.953
- I've been beside the sea of galilee with you.
- 00:28:51.953 --> 00:28:54.355
- We've done television together.
- 00:28:54.355 --> 00:28:56.691
- A number of times.
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- In israel.
- 00:28:58.626 --> 00:29:00.361
- From jerusalem, all the way to the north, there
- 00:29:00.361 --> 00:29:02.831
- In the sea of galilee.
- 00:29:02.831 --> 00:29:04.499
- And and so there is, you know,
- 00:29:04.499 --> 00:29:08.636
- When you think of
- 00:29:08.636 --> 00:29:10.305
- Going to the sea of galilee, capernaum is on the north side
- 00:29:10.305 --> 00:29:14.275
- Or the north shore of the sea of galilee.
- 00:29:14.275 --> 00:29:17.278
- And, that's where tv and by the way,
- 00:29:17.278 --> 00:29:19.614
- With our partners, crl tours built the, david's harp hotel.
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- Beautiful. it's beautiful.
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- The best hotel in the sea of galilee.
- 00:29:24.252 --> 00:29:25.954
- It is a clearly and and beautiful, place.
- 00:29:25.954 --> 00:29:29.490
- And and you've been there with us and stayed there.
- 00:29:29.490 --> 00:29:32.060
- We take our groups, we stay there. love it.
- 00:29:32.060 --> 00:29:34.429
- So with all that said, it,
- 00:29:34.429 --> 00:29:38.266
- It feels like the last time i was on camera with you
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- In israel,
- 00:29:42.637 --> 00:29:43.838
- We were either on the sea of galilee or just beside it,
- 00:29:43.838 --> 00:29:47.542
- Looking at it.
- 00:29:47.542 --> 00:29:48.843
- And that came to mind.
- 00:29:48.843 --> 00:29:51.079
- And so i can picture where this scene played out.
- 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.750
- So how do you break down, or physically break the story
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- Of walking on water in regard to your brand new series,
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- Breaking sunday school?
- 00:30:04.959 --> 00:30:06.327
- No, i think that's a i think that's a great question.
- 00:30:06.327 --> 00:30:08.396
- We'll think about it for a moment.
- 00:30:08.396 --> 00:30:11.399
- You know, what is the deeper spiritual significance of why
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- Jesus walked upon the water,
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- And what would it have communicated
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- To the first readers or hearers of the story?
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- Well, here's the very interesting thing.
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- Jesus comes to bring about
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- A new creation.
- 00:30:29.584 --> 00:30:32.921
- So how does creation begin?
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- Creation begins
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- With the spirit of god hovering over the face of the deep.
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- There's darkness.
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- There's chaos.
- 00:30:42.931 --> 00:30:44.999
- There's a lot going on.
- 00:30:44.999 --> 00:30:47.936
- And so jesus is he's stepping back in
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- To that initial starting point of creation.
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- It's the middle of the night.
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- It's dark.
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- He's walking on the deep, deep.
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- This. it's not a currency.
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- It is a stormy sea.
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- And everything is raging around them.
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- And the wind is blowing.
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- Just like we read about in the creation account.
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- And it seems like chaos in.
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- So in jewish people would think about waters or that situation,
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- They would
- 00:31:19.033 --> 00:31:20.234
- Initially would always tie it back to genesis chapter one.
- 00:31:20.234 --> 00:31:22.637
- Wow. thinking the waters represent death.
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- They represent chaos.
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- They represent darkness.
- 00:31:27.141 --> 00:31:29.177
- It represents forces that need to be overcome.
- 00:31:29.177 --> 00:31:32.780
- And so jesus comes walking on the chaos.
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- He comes walking on the to home.
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- He comes walking on the debts.
- 00:31:39.287 --> 00:31:41.356
- And there is a beautiful interpretation of the rabbis
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- Where it says
- 00:31:44.726 --> 00:31:45.893
- The spirit of god was hovering over the face of the deep.
- 00:31:45.893 --> 00:31:48.429
- They actually say it was the throne or the spirit of messiah
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- That was actually hovering over the face of the deep
- 00:31:54.002 --> 00:31:57.638
- At the very start of creation.
- 00:31:57.638 --> 00:32:00.475
- And jesus is saying, yes, i was actually the one there
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- In the beginning, taming the chaos
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- In all of the craziness.
- 00:32:08.449 --> 00:32:10.418
- So it points to him as the creator.
- 00:32:10.418 --> 00:32:13.354
- And it points to his divine identity. why?
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- Because there's a number of passages, like jobs
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- In psalms, where only god
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- Is above the waters or rides the waves.
- 00:32:22.630 --> 00:32:26.134
- And then we see in the book of daniel one
- 00:32:26.134 --> 00:32:29.037
- Like the son of man, standing above the waters.
- 00:32:29.037 --> 00:32:33.041
- And it's referring to a divine being.
- 00:32:33.041 --> 00:32:35.977
- And then yeshua says to them, and they say, is it you, jesus?
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- And he says, i am.
- 00:32:39.914 --> 00:32:42.116
- And it's the same phrase in the greek that's used
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- When god reveals himself to moses in the burning bush.
- 00:32:45.520 --> 00:32:48.856
- Ego. amy, i am that i am.
- 00:32:48.856 --> 00:32:52.293
- My goodness.
- 00:32:52.627 --> 00:32:53.294
- Well, you are expanding too.
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- And, a little bit of breaking, you know, prodigal son,
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- A story that jesus told.
- 00:33:02.003 --> 00:33:05.373
- What would we have learned about that?
- 00:33:06.207 --> 00:33:09.377
- I mean, the the you know,
- 00:33:09.377 --> 00:33:10.578
- You would have learned, that he wants.
- 00:33:10.578 --> 00:33:14.382
- You're never beyond intense.
- 00:33:14.382 --> 00:33:16.150
- Yeah. you're. well, but you would have learned.
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- Well, the
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- The moral of the story,
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- What's the moral of the prodigal that when he comes back,
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- The father is there with open arms?
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- Okay. right. always. welcome home.
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- You're always welcome to come back.
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- You know,
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- Those were the concepts that the story would have told.
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- Can't do anything.
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- Too bad
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- For god's love.
- 00:33:36.771 --> 00:33:38.005
- And you can
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- Squander your inheritance, and your father will welcome
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- You back.
- 00:33:42.944 --> 00:33:43.478
- You can.
- 00:33:43.478 --> 00:33:44.378
- You know, you can pretty much do whatever.
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- And he will always have.
- 00:33:47.582 --> 00:33:49.550
- Let's say the porch light on for you is.
- 00:33:49.550 --> 00:33:52.320
- So that would be the sunday school version of,
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- And that's probably enough.
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- You know, that's that was good, i think.
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- Did you tell all you know? yeah, that's about it.
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- Yeah.
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- You got something else beyond that?
- 00:34:03.564 --> 00:34:05.299
- Come on. yeah. let's break it. okay.
- 00:34:05.299 --> 00:34:08.669
- Break so we can fix it.
- 00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:11.072
- So here's the reality right?
- 00:34:11.072 --> 00:34:14.609
- Remind me of that lining
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- Talladega night break it.
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- Pepe le pew. okay. go ahead.
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- Yeah. right.
- 00:34:21.549 --> 00:34:23.017
- So the reality is, is that
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- We just naturally associate it,
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- That the title of the parable is the prodigal,
- 00:34:28.956 --> 00:34:32.326
- But it doesn't have a title.
- 00:34:32.927 --> 00:34:34.395
- What in the text of scripture. okay.
- 00:34:34.395 --> 00:34:36.597
- There's no title in the texas. are you kidding me?
- 00:34:36.597 --> 00:34:38.833
- No. he tells a parable and we do a subtitle over it.
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- We do a heading over.
- 00:34:41.602 --> 00:34:42.436
- We put the prodigal son in there.
- 00:34:42.436 --> 00:34:44.739
- The word prodigal is in there, but it's not. it's not.
- 00:34:44.739 --> 00:34:47.308
- The title of the parable
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- Is not called the parable of the prodigal son.
- 00:34:48.709 --> 00:34:51.145
- It's a story that involves three individuals a son, a wayward
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- Son that we call the protocol, a father and an older brother.
- 00:34:56.751 --> 00:35:01.789
- The problem with calling it the prodigal son
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- Is he's not the point of the story.
- 00:35:04.659 --> 00:35:07.094
- Right?
- 00:35:07.094 --> 00:35:08.262
- Well, the prodigal son is not the point of the story.
- 00:35:08.262 --> 00:35:12.300
- It's really about two things, right?
- 00:35:13.100 --> 00:35:16.070
- You can either call it the loving father.
- 00:35:16.070 --> 00:35:19.774
- Okay. that's one way to look at it.
- 00:35:19.774 --> 00:35:22.143
- But really, it probably should be called
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- The parable of the older brother.
- 00:35:25.213 --> 00:35:27.248
- The younger son says to his that i want my inheritance,
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- Which is basically tantamount to saying,
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- You're dead to me, right? right.
- 00:35:32.753 --> 00:35:35.022
- I want my inheritance while you're living.
- 00:35:35.022 --> 00:35:37.792
- There is no way to legally to do that.
- 00:35:37.792 --> 00:35:39.594
- It's a whole thing that we can get into.
- 00:35:39.594 --> 00:35:41.696
- But so basically, it's
- 00:35:41.696 --> 00:35:44.098
- Because inheritance isn't just about wealth, it's
- 00:35:44.098 --> 00:35:46.500
- About identity and community and family
- 00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:50.438
- And saying, i basically want no part of you.
- 00:35:50.438 --> 00:35:52.206
- I don't go do my own thing, right?
- 00:35:52.206 --> 00:35:54.141
- Which in that first century society is like huge,
- 00:35:54.141 --> 00:35:57.478
- You know, you know, do that.
- 00:35:57.478 --> 00:35:58.779
- So he goes away, things go really bad.
- 00:35:58.779 --> 00:36:02.450
- He winds up hungry,
- 00:36:02.917 --> 00:36:05.720
- Working for a man barely having enough food to survive.
- 00:36:05.720 --> 00:36:09.890
- And then he has an epiphany.
- 00:36:09.890 --> 00:36:11.792
- The turning point comes when he's there with the pigs.
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- Okay?
- 00:36:15.296 --> 00:36:15.997
- And he says, my, the servants
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- In my father's house have it better than me.
- 00:36:17.598 --> 00:36:20.101
- So listen, the pigs, the most unkosher place, right?
- 00:36:20.101 --> 00:36:23.371
- He's telling this story to jewish people.
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- The kids with the pigs. okay.
- 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.276
- The word for pigs says it all
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- Because there's a promise connected to the pig.
- 00:36:30.378 --> 00:36:33.247
- The word for pig in hebrew is hazier,
- 00:36:33.247 --> 00:36:35.950
- And it's also the same word to return.
- 00:36:35.950 --> 00:36:38.019
- It's one of the words in hebrew for repentance. wow.
- 00:36:38.019 --> 00:36:40.554
- And there's.
- 00:36:40.554 --> 00:36:41.555
- And why is the pig the most unkosher animal?
- 00:36:41.555 --> 00:36:44.725
- Because it has the outward sign of being kosher
- 00:36:44.725 --> 00:36:48.863
- Cloven hooves, but it lacks the internal sign.
- 00:36:48.863 --> 00:36:52.633
- It doesn't chew its cud.
- 00:36:52.633 --> 00:36:54.168
- And so it's
- 00:36:54.168 --> 00:36:55.436
- The image of a hypocrite, one who looks clean on the outside,
- 00:36:55.436 --> 00:36:59.073
- But is unclean on the inside. wow.
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- Okay.
- 00:37:03.344 --> 00:37:04.245
- That's why it's the most unkosher animal.
- 00:37:04.245 --> 00:37:06.213
- Because it's the physical embodiment
- 00:37:06.213 --> 00:37:08.182
- In the animal kingdom of the hypocrite.
- 00:37:08.182 --> 00:37:10.251
- And so he has this epiphany.
- 00:37:10.251 --> 00:37:11.686
- But this interesting thing, the rabbi say that
- 00:37:11.686 --> 00:37:14.588
- In the messianic kingdom, pigs will be kosher
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- And we'll be able to eat them, because the caption for the pig.
- 00:37:18.459 --> 00:37:21.362
- That's right.
- 00:37:21.362 --> 00:37:22.296
- I'll be able to eat bacon in the kingdom.
- 00:37:22.296 --> 00:37:23.564
- Jesus, right? why?
- 00:37:23.564 --> 00:37:26.033
- Because the word for pig means to return
- 00:37:26.033 --> 00:37:28.336
- Comes from the root to return.
- 00:37:28.336 --> 00:37:30.071
- So they say a pig will return and be kosher, right?
- 00:37:30.071 --> 00:37:34.208
- The kosher pig.
- 00:37:34.208 --> 00:37:35.876
- And if a pig can be made kosher, the most unclean hypocritical
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- Of animals.
- 00:37:39.814 --> 00:37:41.415
- It's an allusion to the fact that the prodigal says,
- 00:37:41.415 --> 00:37:43.417
- If god can do that for the pig, wow.
- 00:37:43.417 --> 00:37:45.786
- Oh my god, wow.
- 00:37:45.786 --> 00:37:46.854
- If a pig can be made kosher, totally transformed.
- 00:37:46.854 --> 00:37:49.824
- Certainly i can be totally transformed.
- 00:37:49.824 --> 00:37:52.393
- He gets up, he goes back.
- 00:37:52.393 --> 00:37:55.229
- We know the story, the beautiful imagery. his father's looking.
- 00:37:55.229 --> 00:37:57.865
- He sees him from the distance and he runs out to greet him.
- 00:37:57.865 --> 00:38:02.269
- And he embraces him.
- 00:38:02.737 --> 00:38:04.271
- And he gives him a robe, a ring and sandals.
- 00:38:04.271 --> 00:38:07.641
- What?
- 00:38:07.875 --> 00:38:08.309
- We don't know
- 00:38:08.309 --> 00:38:09.577
- If you don't know that jewish cultural historical background,
- 00:38:09.577 --> 00:38:13.080
- You miss the deep significance and the richness of the story.
- 00:38:13.080 --> 00:38:17.985
- That's why you're here.
- 00:38:17.985 --> 00:38:19.053
- It's by the way,
- 00:38:19.053 --> 00:38:20.287
- So that's why you hear posting breaking sunday school, not me.
- 00:38:20.287 --> 00:38:24.658
- Okay.
- 00:38:24.658 --> 00:38:25.659
- I didn't know it wasn't named the prodigal son.
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- Go ahead. you get to why?
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- Why there's something called in first century
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- Ancient culture called the kisa ceremony.
- 00:38:32.733 --> 00:38:35.035
- Say, that kid starts at the ceremony.
- 00:38:35.035 --> 00:38:37.605
- And what it was when a child had done something
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- That was so bad that it brought such shame upon the family.
- 00:38:41.976 --> 00:38:47.014
- Such as, like going to live among,
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- The gentiles, idolaters, pagans such as, you know,
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- Demanding his father's inheritance, which is completely
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- Breaking the commandment to honor your mother and father.
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- It's tearing at the social fabric of the family.
- 00:39:00.461 --> 00:39:03.531
- You know, the society, the future, the family itself.
- 00:39:03.531 --> 00:39:07.401
- There would be this ceremony where the elders of the village
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- Would come,
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- And communally, they would they could make this decision
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- To jesus, to cut off that individual.
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- And once that individual
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- Had been cut off through that ceremony,
- 00:39:21.182 --> 00:39:23.717
- They could never be allowed back in the community,
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- Back into the family.
- 00:39:27.388 --> 00:39:29.356
- Once that ceremony had been performed
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- By the elders of the city and they were in agreement.
- 00:39:32.293 --> 00:39:36.430
- So why does the father run to meet his son?
- 00:39:36.430 --> 00:39:40.734
- To make sure that he reaches him and accepts him?
- 00:39:40.734 --> 00:39:44.805
- Before that ceremony can be performed and it's too late.
- 00:39:44.805 --> 00:39:49.109
- Wow. and he's cut off and he can never come back.
- 00:39:49.109 --> 00:39:53.547
- Because if the father
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- Accepts him back before the community disown
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- Sammy and goes through the ceremony,
- 00:39:58.986 --> 00:40:00.421
- They can't do it after the fact. got it.
- 00:40:00.421 --> 00:40:02.957
- So that's why there's an urgency
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- For the father to run, even though it was shameful to run.
- 00:40:04.692 --> 00:40:08.529
- But that's how much he loves him.
- 00:40:08.529 --> 00:40:10.097
- He's willing to be shamed to bring his child
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- Back into the family once again.
- 00:40:14.468 --> 00:40:17.538
- He gives him a robe,
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- A ring, and sandals.
- 00:40:21.008 --> 00:40:25.179
- Sandals represent a new identity.
- 00:40:25.913 --> 00:40:30.751
- Slaves didn't wear sandals.
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- Ancient egyptian
- 00:40:33.487 --> 00:40:35.189
- Hieroglyphics used to send slaves not wearing sandals.
- 00:40:35.189 --> 00:40:38.025
- So status through sandals.
- 00:40:38.025 --> 00:40:41.028
- Okay.
- 00:40:41.028 --> 00:40:42.796
- And then you see, the ring represents, authority.
- 00:40:42.796 --> 00:40:47.902
- He's restoring him to a place of authority in the robe.
- 00:40:47.902 --> 00:40:51.038
- Represents honor.
- 00:40:51.038 --> 00:40:52.673
- Wow. and he totally embraces him with these three things.
- 00:40:52.673 --> 00:40:56.243
- And walk in sin back into the family.
- 00:40:56.243 --> 00:40:58.779
- But it's not good.
- 00:40:58.779 --> 00:40:59.847
- But there's more.
- 00:40:59.847 --> 00:41:00.748
- But there's more. please go ahead.
- 00:41:00.748 --> 00:41:02.883
- And here's the more.
- 00:41:02.883 --> 00:41:05.019
- And this is why it's not about
- 00:41:05.019 --> 00:41:08.122
- The younger brother.
- 00:41:08.122 --> 00:41:11.759
- It's about the older brother.
- 00:41:12.393 --> 00:41:14.495
- The older brother is upset. why?
- 00:41:14.495 --> 00:41:17.364
- Because he thinks the younger brother
- 00:41:17.364 --> 00:41:21.001
- Has brought such shame and disrespect on the family
- 00:41:21.001 --> 00:41:24.638
- That he should have had the kids at the ceremony performed,
- 00:41:24.638 --> 00:41:29.243
- And he has brought dishonor to the family,
- 00:41:29.243 --> 00:41:32.012
- Hurt their reputation, hurt their status, squandered,
- 00:41:32.012 --> 00:41:35.282
- Potentially the future of the family
- 00:41:35.282 --> 00:41:36.817
- And he should be cut off for doing that.
- 00:41:36.817 --> 00:41:39.887
- And he's upset
- 00:41:39.887 --> 00:41:41.255
- That the father receives him and accepts him again.
- 00:41:41.255 --> 00:41:45.459
- And here's the irony and the twist in the story.
- 00:41:45.459 --> 00:41:49.129
- The son who went and became a slave and a servant
- 00:41:49.129 --> 00:41:53.400
- Wound up becoming more of a son and understanding the heart
- 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.870
- Of the father than the older son who never left home.
- 00:41:56.870 --> 00:42:00.841
- He never left the father's house.
- 00:42:00.841 --> 00:42:02.910
- He never left the father's side.
- 00:42:02.910 --> 00:42:04.945
- But he never understood who the father truly was.
- 00:42:04.945 --> 00:42:08.682
- He never understood his heart,
- 00:42:08.682 --> 00:42:10.517
- And he didn't really have a relationship with him.
- 00:42:10.517 --> 00:42:13.220
- It was all transactional.
- 00:42:13.220 --> 00:42:15.623
- It was all ritualistic, but it wasn't real.
- 00:42:15.623 --> 00:42:20.260
- And that's why this story ends with
- 00:42:20.260 --> 00:42:23.664
- We don't know what happens to the older brother.
- 00:42:23.664 --> 00:42:26.800
- And the real question that's being asked
- 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:28.869
- Is, which brother are you?
- 00:42:28.869 --> 00:42:30.871
- Are you the
- 00:42:31.205 --> 00:42:32.206
- One who returns or are you the older brother?
- 00:42:32.206 --> 00:42:34.942
- In the context of telling the story
- 00:42:34.942 --> 00:42:36.910
- Is to the religious leaders who were upset that jesus eats
- 00:42:36.910 --> 00:42:41.415
- Among the tax collectors and sinners and the gentiles,
- 00:42:41.415 --> 00:42:45.886
- And welcomes the younger brothers, the prodigals, back.
- 00:42:45.886 --> 00:42:50.557
- And it's directed to the older.
- 00:42:50.557 --> 00:42:52.259
- It's rejected to
- 00:42:52.259 --> 00:42:53.360
- The religious people who think they're so righteous,
- 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:56.196
- Saying, you don't get it.
- 00:42:56.196 --> 00:42:59.466
- You don't get it.
- 00:42:59.466 --> 00:43:00.801
- Well, and just like we don't know how it ends
- 00:43:00.801 --> 00:43:03.971
- With the older brother,
- 00:43:03.971 --> 00:43:05.939
- He's asking us the question, don't end up.
- 00:43:05.939 --> 00:43:07.908
- Don't be so close and get so far.
- 00:43:07.908 --> 00:43:11.412
- Missed it.
- 00:43:11.412 --> 00:43:13.580
- Okay.
- 00:43:13.580 --> 00:43:14.815
- If you just tuned in, rabbi jason is breaking sunday school.
- 00:43:14.815 --> 00:43:19.720
- But, you know, mysteries of the messiah.
- 00:43:19.720 --> 00:43:22.389
- It's been a series that you've done here on tbn,
- 00:43:22.389 --> 00:43:25.959
- Transformed by the messiah.
- 00:43:25.959 --> 00:43:28.295
- You've done that series.
- 00:43:28.295 --> 00:43:30.497
- You're with us in jesus in the passover.
- 00:43:30.497 --> 00:43:33.400
- You do a lot of content, but there has never been
- 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.770
- A better title for you than this one.
- 00:43:36.770 --> 00:43:39.907
- Okay?
- 00:43:39.907 --> 00:43:40.607
- Because you're good at basically
- 00:43:40.607 --> 00:43:44.978
- Exploding the concepts that might be tradition of men.
- 00:43:44.978 --> 00:43:49.817
- Okay.
- 00:43:50.050 --> 00:43:51.285
- They might have been the sunday school lessons, as it were,
- 00:43:51.285 --> 00:43:56.190
- And you're expanding them out and giving the
- 00:43:56.190 --> 00:44:00.994
- Cultural context, you know, even what you just said
- 00:44:00.994 --> 00:44:05.599
- By saying,
- 00:44:05.899 --> 00:44:07.167
- Well, take into consideration where jesus even told the story
- 00:44:07.167 --> 00:44:11.672
- And to who it was directed and what
- 00:44:11.672 --> 00:44:15.375
- The real historic meaning of it.
- 00:44:15.375 --> 00:44:19.279
- That's a preview.
- 00:44:19.713 --> 00:44:22.082
- The most important thing is we're going into these subjects
- 00:44:22.082 --> 00:44:26.954
- Like prodigal son, resurrection, pool of bethesda,
- 00:44:26.954 --> 00:44:30.891
- Tower of babel, david
- 00:44:30.891 --> 00:44:32.059
- And goliath, noah's ark, walking on the water, creation,
- 00:44:32.059 --> 00:44:35.362
- These types of things that we would have a cursory
- 00:44:35.362 --> 00:44:38.966
- Understanding of.
- 00:44:38.966 --> 00:44:40.701
- And this guy is going to break it down.
- 00:44:40.701 --> 00:44:43.337
- By the way, i've been sitting here with you
- 00:44:43.337 --> 00:44:44.605
- Now for over 40 minutes, and i just noticed
- 00:44:44.605 --> 00:44:47.975
- That this is the first time that you've never worn all black.
- 00:44:47.975 --> 00:44:51.545
- You have dark brown on and it looks great on you.
- 00:44:51.545 --> 00:44:55.082
- Thank you.
- 00:44:55.082 --> 00:44:56.183
- You're you're you're you're breaking out of the box.
- 00:44:56.183 --> 00:44:59.319
- I think laurel's shirt on breaking sunday school.
- 00:44:59.319 --> 00:45:01.989
- But do you really breaking out?
- 00:45:01.989 --> 00:45:03.524
- Are you aware of for sure. for real.
- 00:45:03.524 --> 00:45:05.626
- With the tan blazer, black pants.
- 00:45:05.626 --> 00:45:08.328
- Right. i like it.
- 00:45:08.328 --> 00:45:10.497
- Breaking break.
- 00:45:10.864 --> 00:45:11.965
- You are breaking everything. i can really love it.
- 00:45:11.965 --> 00:45:14.835
- You're going to flip over a temple table here in a minute,
- 00:45:14.835 --> 00:45:17.738
- Okay? okay.
- 00:45:17.738 --> 00:45:18.438
- With us death. okay.
- 00:45:18.438 --> 00:45:19.573
- And the hair man, we kind of have to let this be
- 00:45:19.573 --> 00:45:22.042
- Kind of the the wrap up land the plane a little bit.
- 00:45:22.042 --> 00:45:25.345
- Schools, almost.
- 00:45:25.345 --> 00:45:26.747
- We're about to hear the bell and and, and get out of here.
- 00:45:26.747 --> 00:45:30.050
- So, kind of give us, you know,
- 00:45:30.050 --> 00:45:33.187
- Your final thoughts in regard to what you're doing here.
- 00:45:33.187 --> 00:45:36.456
- And do it in the pool of bethesda. yeah.
- 00:45:36.456 --> 00:45:38.325
- I mean,
- 00:45:38.325 --> 00:45:39.359
- One of the things i love is not just the content
- 00:45:39.359 --> 00:45:41.662
- That we're sharing, but i also love the format
- 00:45:41.662 --> 00:45:44.965
- That we partnered with you to create with the audience
- 00:45:44.965 --> 00:45:48.302
- Participation, with the online participation,
- 00:45:48.302 --> 00:45:51.505
- With surveys and interactive questions
- 00:45:51.505 --> 00:45:55.242
- And polling that we do so and, and the graphics
- 00:45:55.242 --> 00:45:59.112
- And the live animation.
- 00:45:59.112 --> 00:46:00.714
- So it's really something special. it's really amazing.
- 00:46:00.714 --> 00:46:03.383
- You've created an a beautiful studio here
- 00:46:03.383 --> 00:46:06.420
- In, the dallas area.
- 00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:08.455
- So man, you are you guys are visionaries
- 00:46:08.455 --> 00:46:11.091
- And i am blessed to be part of the tbn family.
- 00:46:11.091 --> 00:46:14.061
- So thank you for having me.
- 00:46:14.061 --> 00:46:16.163
- Praise god, it's a blessing.
- 00:46:16.763 --> 00:46:19.066
- And, i know your your parents would be very proud.
- 00:46:19.066 --> 00:46:23.237
- Cool. of bethesda. bethesda.
- 00:46:23.237 --> 00:46:25.539
- Okay, so think about it, john.
- 00:46:25.539 --> 00:46:27.007
- Chapter five, pool of bethesda.
- 00:46:27.007 --> 00:46:29.109
- There's a man.
- 00:46:29.109 --> 00:46:30.477
- Two details that people don't consider.
- 00:46:30.477 --> 00:46:32.479
- One is he's an invalid 38 years.
- 00:46:32.479 --> 00:46:36.817
- Well why is it significant that he is an invalid for 30 years.
- 00:46:36.817 --> 00:46:40.721
- Look there's no wasted word in the bible.
- 00:46:40.721 --> 00:46:43.724
- Right.
- 00:46:43.724 --> 00:46:44.691
- So if the bible is the inspired word of god,
- 00:46:44.691 --> 00:46:46.360
- That means every word is important.
- 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.328
- There's a lot of details i'd like to know
- 00:46:48.328 --> 00:46:50.197
- What did jesus look like?
- 00:46:50.197 --> 00:46:51.732
- We don't know that.
- 00:46:51.732 --> 00:46:52.833
- But we know this man was an invalid 38 years, right?
- 00:46:52.833 --> 00:46:56.103
- Right.
- 00:46:56.103 --> 00:46:57.371
- So this actually happened to be something important about that.
- 00:46:57.371 --> 00:46:58.305
- So again, we'll break sunday school here.
- 00:46:58.305 --> 00:47:00.607
- Well by the way, there's a shroud of turin
- 00:47:00.607 --> 00:47:02.643
- If you want to know what
- 00:47:02.643 --> 00:47:03.877
- Jesus look like,
- 00:47:03.877 --> 00:47:05.045
- There is kind of a picture of him where there's a german,
- 00:47:05.045 --> 00:47:07.381
- But it's not in the bible.
- 00:47:07.381 --> 00:47:08.615
- Yeah, it's i'm not saying it's not necessarily historicity.
- 00:47:08.615 --> 00:47:11.618
- Do it.
- 00:47:11.618 --> 00:47:12.152
- But i'm saying this.
- 00:47:12.152 --> 00:47:13.086
- It's not it's not a detail in the bible
- 00:47:13.086 --> 00:47:13.921
- That you would think would be there.
- 00:47:13.921 --> 00:47:14.855
- I just thought you would have known that
- 00:47:14.855 --> 00:47:16.556
- There was a shroud of turin.
- 00:47:16.556 --> 00:47:17.658
- It seems like, you know, a lot of things
- 00:47:17.658 --> 00:47:19.459
- I just like you wouldn't have known that.
- 00:47:19.459 --> 00:47:21.094
- It's shrouded in mystery.
- 00:47:21.094 --> 00:47:23.330
- But here we go.
- 00:47:23.697 --> 00:47:25.499
- So let's break sunday school for a moment, okay?
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- How many years did israel wander in the wilderness?
- 00:47:28.702 --> 00:47:32.806
- 40. 30. right?
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- But wrong.
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- 38. they were in the desert 40 years,
- 00:47:36.043 --> 00:47:38.478
- But they wandered for 38.
- 00:47:38.478 --> 00:47:40.147
- Yeah, because of their unbelief.
- 00:47:40.147 --> 00:47:41.848
- How you know that you were just guessing.
- 00:47:41.848 --> 00:47:43.450
- I i'm going with the flow. i'm feeling this.
- 00:47:43.450 --> 00:47:45.886
- I got 38. didn't you, ron?
- 00:47:45.886 --> 00:47:48.956
- Chapter two.
- 00:47:48.956 --> 00:47:50.290
- Did you know that
- 00:47:50.290 --> 00:47:51.658
- This 38 years israel wandered in the wilderness?
- 00:47:51.658 --> 00:47:55.595
- Okay, it does say that for real. yeah.
- 00:47:55.595 --> 00:47:58.031
- Deuteronomy chapter two says it says 38, 38 years.
- 00:47:58.031 --> 00:48:01.902
- The first two years.
- 00:48:01.902 --> 00:48:03.036
- Was god speaking to them at mount sinai
- 00:48:03.036 --> 00:48:05.505
- Building the tabernacle, organizing the camp?
- 00:48:05.505 --> 00:48:09.810
- The wandering is judgment for not listening
- 00:48:09.810 --> 00:48:13.513
- To god to go in and take the land.
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- When they see the giants.
- 00:48:15.749 --> 00:48:16.883
- So david and goliath giant, that's not the first
- 00:48:16.883 --> 00:48:19.853
- Part of the story.
- 00:48:19.853 --> 00:48:21.054
- The first part is the giants in the land. the people fear
- 00:48:21.054 --> 00:48:23.390
- There's a connection,
- 00:48:23.890 --> 00:48:25.525
- But there, that's when god says, you're going to
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- That generation
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- Has the adult generation has to die in the wilderness.
- 00:48:29.262 --> 00:48:32.566
- And that's after two years.
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- That's
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- Why moses says deuteronomy chapter 238 years of wandering.
- 00:48:35.369 --> 00:48:39.039
- Wow, two years is not wandering.
- 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.141
- 38 was judgment wandering.
- 00:48:41.141 --> 00:48:43.143
- Wow. okay,
- 00:48:43.143 --> 00:48:44.811
- So how does that connect to the man at the pool of bethesda?
- 00:48:44.811 --> 00:48:48.081
- Why didn't these individuals want to go in?
- 00:48:48.081 --> 00:48:51.418
- Excuses.
- 00:48:51.685 --> 00:48:53.053
- There's giants in the land.
- 00:48:53.053 --> 00:48:54.721
- We're like grasshoppers in their sight,
- 00:48:54.721 --> 00:48:57.290
- In all sorts of reasons why they couldn't believe god.
- 00:48:57.290 --> 00:49:00.961
- Trust god to go in and take the land.
- 00:49:00.961 --> 00:49:04.464
- And so jesus is saying to this man, and he's saying to
- 00:49:04.464 --> 00:49:07.868
- The jewish religious leaders, do you want to have unbelief
- 00:49:07.868 --> 00:49:12.339
- And be like the generation that god redeemed out of egypt
- 00:49:12.339 --> 00:49:15.976
- But died in the wilderness, or are you going to have
- 00:49:15.976 --> 00:49:19.112
- Faith and believe in me and what i offer you?
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- And rise, take up your bed and walk
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- Into the promise of redemption?
- 00:49:25.886 --> 00:49:29.222
- Or are you going to mean
- 00:49:29.222 --> 00:49:30.390
- Paralyzed and stuck here on this mat,
- 00:49:30.390 --> 00:49:33.727
- Like the children of israel did in the wilderness?
- 00:49:33.727 --> 00:49:37.497
- And so he was saying, there's two options.
- 00:49:37.497 --> 00:49:40.834
- You can choose which one you want to pick.
- 00:49:40.834 --> 00:49:44.037
- And so this man, again, like israel, begins with excuses.
- 00:49:44.037 --> 00:49:48.208
- Well, you know, he says, do you want to be made?
- 00:49:48.208 --> 00:49:50.010
- Well, you were thinking, heck yeah, i want to be made.
- 00:49:50.010 --> 00:49:52.145
- Well, there's no one to pick me up
- 00:49:52.145 --> 00:49:53.980
- When the water stirred and i can't get.
- 00:49:53.980 --> 00:49:55.582
- And all these excuses doesn't
- 00:49:55.582 --> 00:49:56.883
- Answer the question, provides excuses as to why.
- 00:49:56.883 --> 00:50:02.522
- But ultimately,
- 00:50:02.889 --> 00:50:04.858
- He chooses to receive what yeshua offers him,
- 00:50:04.858 --> 00:50:09.229
- Which is another significant change.
- 00:50:09.229 --> 00:50:10.931
- Because if you know me, you know i like numbers.
- 00:50:10.931 --> 00:50:13.867
- Hebrews alphanumeric and therefore
- 00:50:13.867 --> 00:50:17.437
- Every weight, the way that you write
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- Numbers is with letters in hebrews.
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- So what?
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- Why is sig 38 significant?
- 00:50:21.842 --> 00:50:23.910
- The numerical value of his heart
- 00:50:23.910 --> 00:50:25.979
- Be bow in hebrew equals 38. wow.
- 00:50:25.979 --> 00:50:28.982
- Because god was testing this man to see what was in his heart,
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- Just like he tested the hearts of the jewish people,
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- The children of israel when they left
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- Israel, was his heart going to receive and believe,
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- Or was it going to lack faith?
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- And what was he going to do?
- 00:50:42.462 --> 00:50:44.131
- And so this man did chose to believe and receive.
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- But the question then is what were the religious leaders
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- Going to do?
- 00:50:51.605 --> 00:50:52.839
- And and don't you think that's what god does to all of us
- 00:50:52.839 --> 00:50:56.176
- Every day, all day long?
- 00:50:56.176 --> 00:50:57.944
- Isn't he just kind of always testing jason?
- 00:50:57.944 --> 00:51:01.448
- I mean, it feels like it's just it everything
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- That you face is really just a question
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- And it's an opportunity, you know,
- 00:51:09.923 --> 00:51:12.492
- How do you know you have faith unless it's called upon.
- 00:51:12.492 --> 00:51:16.329
- So some kind of trial tribulation is usually god
- 00:51:16.329 --> 00:51:19.766
- Asking you a question. what?
- 00:51:19.766 --> 00:51:21.868
- Who do you say that i am?
- 00:51:21.868 --> 00:51:23.737
- You know, it just feels like that's kind of what's going on.
- 00:51:23.737 --> 00:51:26.773
- By the way, in the edit of this show while i'm talking.
- 00:51:26.773 --> 00:51:30.744
- Just just cut to jason, who's nodding
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- Vigorously with everything i'm saying,
- 00:51:33.547 --> 00:51:35.282
- Because that might have been
- 00:51:35.282 --> 00:51:36.416
- The first time he'd ever done that.
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- Okay.
- 00:51:38.985 --> 00:51:39.553
- I'm arguing with you.
- 00:51:39.553 --> 00:51:40.487
- You're always arguing, always asked to argue,
- 00:51:40.487 --> 00:51:44.558
- Constantly arguing with you forever.
- 00:51:44.558 --> 00:51:46.860
- Okay. hold on. i gotta make over what we're ordering.
- 00:51:46.860 --> 00:51:49.296
- You argue. argue over what?
- 00:51:49.296 --> 00:51:50.897
- You want to order the shrimp. i'm like, no shrimp.
- 00:51:50.897 --> 00:51:53.600
- You're like the lobster,
- 00:51:53.600 --> 00:51:54.534
- But it's testable if you want to test it.
- 00:51:54.534 --> 00:51:57.170
- But that means, yeah, that's a whole nother.
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- Yeah.
- 00:51:59.139 --> 00:52:00.240
- Okay, so but, but but let's side together real quick
- 00:52:00.240 --> 00:52:01.841
- Because it goes back to yeshua walking on the water.
- 00:52:01.841 --> 00:52:04.578
- This man's by the water.
- 00:52:04.578 --> 00:52:06.379
- Yeshua was walking on the water.
- 00:52:06.379 --> 00:52:07.747
- Wow. what's the connection?
- 00:52:07.747 --> 00:52:11.751
- The connection
- 00:52:12.085 --> 00:52:13.186
- Ultimately comes down to this that the tests
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- And the storms are meant to be schools.
- 00:52:18.491 --> 00:52:21.761
- Yeah.
- 00:52:21.761 --> 00:52:24.464
- And going to school
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- Or the struggle is meant to strengthen us. yes.
- 00:52:25.899 --> 00:52:29.669
- Yeah. when you pass the test you become stronger.
- 00:52:29.669 --> 00:52:32.138
- Yeah.
- 00:52:32.138 --> 00:52:33.206
- When you pass the test or you pass the final exams
- 00:52:33.206 --> 00:52:36.009
- You get promoted to the next level of grade in school.
- 00:52:36.009 --> 00:52:40.614
- You know, it's true in the natural, it's
- 00:52:40.614 --> 00:52:42.649
- True in the spiritual.
- 00:52:42.649 --> 00:52:43.850
- And that's what breaking sunday school does.
- 00:52:43.850 --> 00:52:46.720
- Oh my god.
- 00:52:46.720 --> 00:52:48.188
- Oh man i love it.
- 00:52:48.188 --> 00:52:49.990
- The best title ever for jason
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- Sobel breaking something special sunday school.
- 00:52:52.993 --> 00:52:56.830
- It'll be airing here on tv
- 00:52:56.830 --> 00:52:58.298
- And all the information's on the screen.
- 00:52:58.298 --> 00:53:00.400
- In fact, we'll we'll go out with a little clip
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- From breaking sunday school.
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- Thank you jason. we'll see you next time.
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- You. bye bye.
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