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Roger Krone, Tom Newman, Candace Lee & Eric Newman: The Heart of a Scout: Called to Be Courageous | Praise

June 2, 2026 | 54:45

Matt and Laurie Crouch welcome Roger Crone, Eric Newman, and Candace Lee to discuss George Goodwin, Dragon Slayer and the importance of courage, identity, and resilience for the next generation.

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Praise | Roger Krone, Tom Newman, Candace Lee & Eric Newman: The Heart of a Scout: Called to Be Courageous | Praise | June 2, 2026

(beeping sound)
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- [presenter] coming up tonight on "praise".
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(thrilling music)
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- i think of, again, like david and goliath.
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He didn't come out in the king's armor.
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He came out as a shepherd boy,
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And he slayed goliath in his own identity.
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The fear, the mockery, the labels,
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None of it stuck because he knew who he was.
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How many times did we all face that,
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No matter how young or old we are?
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- telling a young person that like,
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You can slay life's dragons,
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It does light something up
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That makes you feel a little fearless.
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What if we could tell a story that's at the scale
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Of a percy jackson or,
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But it's about a kid who is courteous and courageous,
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And carries these virtues - yeah.
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- that we want to pass down to the next generation?
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- what is a dragon in a youth's life?
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If you read the book as a youth,
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You're gonna go, "maybe i can be a dragon slayer."
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We take all the kids who participate,
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We give them that experience to develop those qualities,
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To be a dragon slayer in the real world.
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We are the antidote for what's going on
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In the country today. - mm-hmm.
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- this is why we have to tell this story.
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- [presenter] tonight on "praise", from dallas,
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Roger krone, candace lee,
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Eric newman, and tom newman.
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(upbeat music)
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And now your host, matt and laurie crouch.
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- we're welcoming you today to the virtual troop trinity.
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We are sitting here (laurie chuckles)
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In what is not the normal "praise" program setting,
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But we have a lot to talk about.
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We have scouting to talk about,
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And i know there's 30 million
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Of you that are alumni to scouting.
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We're talking about "george goodwin, dragon slayer",
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And we're talking about, you know, scouting of all sides.
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And you know what, roger,
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We're gonna get to you in a second.
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You're gonna have to help make some sense of this,
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But we're bringing together a whole bunch of things.
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Help me explain it.
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- well, we're 15 years into a dream.
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- okay. - mm-hmm.
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- you guys are 53 years into a dream.
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- okay. - mm-hmm.
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- legacy projects. - mm-hmm. yeah.
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- that's what this is.
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I think eric and candace came to me
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Literally over 15 years ago after reading an article.
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It was called "the demise of guys".
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It was a ted talk. - mm.
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- and it was about basically,
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The demasculinization of our young men and our young boys.
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And tell 'em, tell me.
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- yeah.
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We came across this article, again, "the demise of guys",
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And it was just this sobering statistic.
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And it's not from a faith perspective,
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It's not a political perspective at all.
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It's just what is happening with young men
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And the challenges they face reaching adulthood.
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And it talks about, and this is 15 years ago,
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So this is, - yeah.
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- this is pre-social media era.
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So, it's talking about the immersive worlds
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Of online pornography and video gaming,
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And all these kind of things
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Who were just kind of capturing a generation.
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And so, we had had this idea like,
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We love old movies, old to us like "goonies",
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(everybody laughing)
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Where it's these wild, big adventures,
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Where at the very heart
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Is a 12-year-old boy or girl, and they're best friends.
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We love those kind of stories.
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And so, we'd had this idea,
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Oh, let's do a movie about a scout slaying a dragon.
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That was just cool to us.
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But for us as storytellers, it's not just cool.
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Cool only gets you so far.
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- yeah. - yeah.
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- and so, we came across this article
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And we're like, no, this is why we have to tell this story.
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We want to inspire young men
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And women to see a different path,
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To discover their real identity.
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And along this journey,
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We saw that these troubling statistics you see,
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You see the exact opposite in young boys
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And girls who engage in scouting.
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- wow. - mm.
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- and that just became fuel to the fire for us.
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- so, they came and sat down with me
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And they said, "listen, this is the problem.
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We believe that scouting can be a big part of the answer.
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- yeah. - we need to do something
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To get, to reimagine this at a time."
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And it was a crazy set of circumstances.
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And i said, well, i don't really know anybody that scout.
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I was a first class scout,
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But that was back (everybody laughing)
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In early '60s.
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I think you were scout- - roger's throwing
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His arms up.
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- so, we're back in the '60s,
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We're scouts. (laurie laughing)
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And it was like, so who do we know?
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How do we do this?
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And you reached out again,
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And i don't know who you reached, it was-
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- yeah, i found-
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- [tom] an oru alum.
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- yeah, an oru alum.
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And again, we were just real early.
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I wasn't a scout.
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I had a strange childhood,
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Grew up traveling (laurie laughing)
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All over the world. (laurie laughing)
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I just thought, oh, this is cool.
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- yeah, i'm a part of that.
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- raised in the circus circle. - still a part of that.
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(tom laughing)
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- so, yeah, on our very first brainstorm session,
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We were like, oh, scout, a dragon.
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And candace goes, "well, where does it take place?"
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And i said, oh, west virginia.
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"well, why?"
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I don't know.
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(laurie laughing)
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Coal mines. i could imagine a dragon in a coal mines.
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And she said, "oh, his name has to be george."
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It'll be a reimagining of the legend of st. george.
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When we finally got ahold of the scouts,
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We had a friend in the scouts reach out to us
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And say, "oh, well, you must know what we're doing."
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No, sir. i'm sorry, i was not a scout.
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We're building our permanent headquarters
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In west virginia over remediated coal mining lands.
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- right. - wow.
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(laurie chuckles) - and
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Yeah. - yeah. i didn't know that.
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- yeah. - oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a reclaimed coal mine. - yeah.
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- wow. - yeah, yeah.
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- okay.
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So, you started out by saying everyone has a dream,
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15 years to try to make - yup.
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- this dream come true. - yup.
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- this book is here now.
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Lord willing, it'll be in theaters.
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- yes. - and all of a sudden,
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We start trying to get ahold of the boy scouts.
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And lo and behold, we have roger krone sitting here
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Who is the chief scout, - right.
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- president, ceo
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- and chief scout. - of scouting america.
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- and chief scout. - and chief scout.
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And we're all a part of trying to help the next generation.
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Help explain that
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To our audience real quick for me, roger.
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- most people look at our organization
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And they just think we're this outdoor camping,
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Gonna get your kid out of the house on the weekend.
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But that's really not why we're here.
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We're 115-year-old organization,
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And we were founded really
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As a youth development organization.
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And of course, we've evolved over the years.
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And what we find today is whether you look
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At richard reeves
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Or jonathan haidt, youth are at a crisis.
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Right? - mm.
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- too much time indoors, too much time on the couch.
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- yep. - they're behind
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Small screens.
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They're not interacting the way they...
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All the statistics, eric,
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As you said, are going in the wrong direction.
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And the purpose of our organization, right,
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Is to develop leadership, citizenship, character,
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And personal fitness in the youth in america,
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And to prepare these young people for lives
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And adults and lives in this country.
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And we are the antidote for what's going on
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In the country today. - mm-hmm.
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- we get the kids outside, that's the classroom.
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Right? - mm.
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- first of all, that means we usually
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Get them away from screens and social media,
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And we get them in what we call the patrol method.
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And the patrol method is youth-led
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To teach these kids resilience,
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Independence, collaboration,
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How to get along with each other.
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Everything that any of your viewers,
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Any characteristic they wanna see in their child,
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We will make it better if they spend time
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In our program. - mm-hmm.
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- and again, i apologize a little bit, everyone thinks,
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"oh, that's the scouts and the boy scouts,
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And we run around in uniforms
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And we walk older people (tom chuckles)
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Across the street.
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And by the way, we do do that.
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Right? (everybody laughing)
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And that's sort of - thank you.
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- what we're known for,
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If you go back to the wd boyce story in london,
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Which is really the beginning of our program.
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But all of our members,
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And we have about a million youth in the program.
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We've got about 400,000 adult volunteers
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Are in it to develop kids of character.
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- mm-hmm. - yeah.
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- and to create future leaders for this country.
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Four of the last five presidents were scouts.
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- wow. - like 11 of the 12 people
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Who walked on the moon
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Were scouts. - wow.
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- wow. - our alumni list,
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Although it's tens of millions,
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But people like gerald ford was an eagle scout
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And michael bloomberg and steven spielberg.
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Right? - yeah.
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- yeah. - was an eagle scout.
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In fact, steven spielberg gave us the money
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So that we could fund moviemaking merit badge.
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- [eric] that's amazing.
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- that's wow. - and he made
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His first eight-millimeter movie
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In meeting the requirements (participant chuckles)
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For what was then photography merit badge.
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- my goodness. - because we didn't have
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A moviemaking merit badge. - wow.
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- so, we have a long history of developing youth,
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Like tom and me, right? (everybody laughing)
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And i suspect i would never have gotten
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To where i am today
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Had i not been in the scouting program.
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- wow. - so, if you go back
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To the early 20th century, to robert baden-powell,
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There's this faith component
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That he brought into the founding of the scouts,
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And he said, "no person is much good
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Unless he believes in god and obeys his laws."
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- mm. - i mean, and goes on to say,
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He wanted every scout to understand
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That we have duty to always be grateful
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For god's spirit working in us,
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- mm. - and should stand
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Before our creator to affirm our admiration
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And gratitude for the blessings we receive.
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- wow.
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- there is an underlying piece there.
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- matt, we have always been a faith-based organization.
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- beautiful. - right?
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And we stand today as a faith-based organization.
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We have what we call the scout oath and the scout law.
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And those of us who've been in the program,
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We have to recite it every week.
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So, for something like 14 years,
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I recited the scout oath and scout law,
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And it just becomes part of who you are.
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But we talk about duties,
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Duty to god, duty to country, and duty to self.
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And if you get those three things right,
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You get most everything right.
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And then, we have what's called the scout law,
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And there are 12 points of the scout law,
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Helpful, friendly, courteous, kind,
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Obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, and reverent.
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- mm. - now, we don't define
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What duty to god and reverent means
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Because everybody interprets that in their own way.
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And we have many, many religions in our organization,
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And we think that's terrific.
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But you should have respect for things
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That are more important than yourself.
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And you should understand that we're just, as an individual,
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We're just like one little dot on the planet.
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- mm. - right?
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And we're part of this much, much, much bigger thing.
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And that's what we try to teach in our program
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And teach people to be respectful,
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Respectful of the earth,
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Respectful of each other, respect of our
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Place in the world.
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And we've always been, again, faith-based.
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And we always will be a faith-based organization.
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- okay, virtual troop trinity
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Is here together, (everybody laughing)
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Sitting around the campfire here in the studio.
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And there's, we have that old saying,
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All roads lead to rome.
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We're about to converge everything.
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We have a brand new book, which by the way,
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Just released, - mm.
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- "george goodwin, dragon slayer".
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So, how do you get an author, authors of a book,
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A boy scout organization - mm.
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- that has 30 million alumni,
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And trinity and virtual, how do we get all this to...
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You have to go back again.
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And i wanna start, both of you guys.
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So, eric and candace,
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If you go to the back of your book,
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There's a little bit of the way we can jump off this thing.
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And if you go back to the founding of the boy scouts,
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All those years ago in the early 20th century,
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Right? - oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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About 1910 in america. - okay.
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And so, a little bit before that in england.
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- right. yup. - right?
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- and it was started in england.
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Not everybody understands that,
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But the first boy scouts were in england.
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And today, there are 230 scouting organizations
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Around the world.
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In the united states,
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We're only 1 of 230 of these organizations.
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- oh, wow. - wow.
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And bear grylls, our friend,
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Is kind of the outside the united states,
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Kind of head of boy scouting. - well,
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He is the, if you will, the chief scout
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For the organization in england, in the united kingdom.
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- beautiful. okay.
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We gotta go back to this st. george, okay?
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Because that's where boy scouts and this book intersect.
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You got this idea that you're trying to build courage
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Inside of a generation
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- mm. - anywhere in the world.
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We're trying to, everybody has a dream. everybody has.
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And most great stories are these stories
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Of the least likely
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Doing the most important task, - mm-hmm.
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- you know? - yeah.
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- think a little frodo in "lord of the rings",
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Just least important doing the most important task.
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And that's what makes all of us excited
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That david can slay goliath,
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That esther can go before the king.
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Now, all these different dynamics is
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What builds character
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Or what can build character in the next generation.
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Can you do it?
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Can you walk across that rope bridge?
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Can you, okay.
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But if you go back, candace, give us this connective piece
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Between the founder of the boy scouts
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And this character of st. george
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- yes. - slaying a dragon, you know.
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- yeah. it's incredible.
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We were actually at the end of the first draft of the story.
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So, we've been on this journey of developing
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What does it look like for george, our scout,
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To defy the odds and slay this dragon?
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And as we're pulling some research together
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On just like little final things,
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Or like, i think eric was like,
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"i wonder if there's any imagery
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Of a scout slaying a dragon."
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And i remember, he goes, "oh no, i think someone's done
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Our story." - yeah, i gasped.
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(eric gasping) (everybody laughing)
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- it was like, what? and i'm like, what?
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I remember rushing over
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And we see it's actually this image right here
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Of a scout slaying a dragon.
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We're like, where did this come from?
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Well, to our honestly shock,
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We're like, how did we not find this before?
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It was the founder of scouting.
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So, robert baden-powell had actually sketched this himself
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And placed it in the front of the scout,
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The original founding document of scouting.
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- my goodness. - mm-hmm.
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- and he said that st. george
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Is the patron saint of scouting,
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Therefore all scouts should know his story.
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And we were just, honestly,
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They talk about how when you're writing,
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Sometimes it feels like you're just uncovering something
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That was already there, - wow.
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- this was 100%
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One of those moments. (laurie laughing)
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And yeah, we were just staggered.
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And it was one of those really amazing points of connection
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Where it's like, okay,
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This is a story that seems like it's for right now.
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This was something that was written long ago,
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And now it's coming together in this new way.
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And we're excited
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To help all scouts know this story. (chuckles)
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- i love the story that you tell about zander
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When he was little. - yeah.
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- tell that story.
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- yeah. again, 15 years is a long time.
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- yeah. (laughs) - and there were times
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Where people would say,
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"are you still working
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On that dragon, (everybody laughing)
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That scout thing?"
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And i would try to change the subject,
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Because it's like, yes, - a little
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- embarrassing. - i'm still working on it.
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- i've worked on a number of films that long too.
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So, don't worry about it. (everybody laughing)
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- yeah. - you just try
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To change the subject. (laurie laughing)
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So, but when people ask like,
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"why it's taking out so long?"
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My son was almost three,
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And there was this father-son camp out that i went on.
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And i thought, he's younger than the other boys.
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It'll be fine. i'll just bring him.
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And we'd had our daughter at the time,
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And so it was like, okay, guys' weekend.
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(laurie chuckles)
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So, i take zander, and he still wore diapers
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To go to bed. - mm-hmm.
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- he gets out of the tent
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And all the other boys are older than him.
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And they see him and they go, "you're a baby.
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You're wearing diapers.
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You poop your pants."
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Like, they're laughing at him. - mm-hmm.
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- and as a dad, i'm like, oh no.
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I'm like- - i'm gonna have
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To kill these kids.
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- yeah i'm gonna have to... (everybody laughing)
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I'm gonna have to beat up some kids. no.
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I run over to intervene to make sure zander's okay.
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I run over there and i find, i like look around him.
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He's laughing.
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And he goes, (chuckles) "i'm not a baby.
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I'm a dragon slayer."
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- wow. - wow.
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- and that gets me every time,
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'cause i think of like the fear, the mockery,
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The labels, none of it stuck because he knew who he was.
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- being bullied is- - yeah. the bully, yeah.
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- yeah. - the bullying.
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- and i think of, again, like david and goliath.
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And he didn't come out in the king's armor
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- right. - or using the king's weapon.
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He came out as a shepherd boy
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And he slayed goliath in his own identity.
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- mm. - and that, for me, is like,
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Okay, that moment from my son that i saw happen,
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How many times do we all face that
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No matter how young or old we are?
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Doctor's diagnosis or a job that doesn't work out,
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It can stick itself to our identity.
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- mm. - but if we really know
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Who we are, that stuff doesn't stick.
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- yeah. - and later that night,
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He met his first crush.
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(everybody laughing)
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- at three? - her name was phoebe.
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Yeah. - uh-oh.
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- it was phoebe. - and he got,
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He stood up real tall
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And he goes, "hello, phoebe.
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I am zander eric newman, dragon slayer."
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(everybody laughing) i was like,
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Yes, you are. - that word.
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(everybody laughing)
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- i love it.
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- but no, it really is amazing though
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To see that identity of telling a young person
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That you can slay life's dragons.
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It does light something up in a way that is just phenomenal.
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When we started this, eric and i were not parents.
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Neither of us were married.
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That's how long ago. (laurie chuckles)
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Neither of us were married.
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Neither of us have kids. - wow.
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- now, i have a six-year-old boy who is a lion cub scout.
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And i had this amazing,
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He is absolutely a boy scout dragon slayer.
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He has stepped - yeah.
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- into that identity.
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But it was really cool.
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He went on his first camp out recently,
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And we're doing all the mom milestone.
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Picture of your first camp out.
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I show him the photo.
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He looks at himself and he goes, "mom, i look fearless."
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He's in a scout uniform. - right.
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- wow. - yeah.
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- and he said,
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"i am a fearless boy." - yeah.
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- wow. - and i was like,
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Yes, you are, bud.
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You go out and you have that camp out.
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He comes back from the camp out
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And that night, we're all watching a movie.
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And i was like, oh, i'm a little cold.
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He gets up, brings me his blanket and puts it over me.
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He goes, "mom, i'm courteous 'cause i'm a scout."
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And there's something powerful about,
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There's this identity of just like an identity
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Of being a dragon slayer means you're brave.
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This identity of being a scout,
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It means that you have certain virtues
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That you carry with you. - yeah.
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- and there's something about like, putting that on,
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Even as a young kid, i'm all for the uniform,
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Because i think - mm.
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- there is something - yeah.
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Yeah. - that makes you feel
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A little fearless.
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It makes you act maybe a little more virtuous.
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I'm gonna tell you, like elliot is an amazing boy,
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But he's the kind of boy i hear from the principal
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From time to time. (everybody laughing)
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But, and he- (participants speak at once)
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- more times. - yeah.
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But it is powerful
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To have him step into that. - yeah.
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- he takes it seriously.
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And i think that that's where we were,
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What if we could tell a story
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That's at the scale of a percy jackson, or,
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But it's about a kid who is courteous and courageous,
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And carries these virtues - yeah.
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- [candace] that we want to pass down
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To the next generation.
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- it's beautiful. - okay,
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I have something to say. - okay. (chuckles) what?
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(laurie chuckles)
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- it feels like we've made
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This kind of introductory connection.
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I think the audience knows what we're talking about.
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We're talking about a brand new book.
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It's just been released, "george goodwin, dragon slayer".
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And there's a little thing
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On the bottom that says a scouting legend.
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I know that a lot of people would see that.
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And sometimes, they would question
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Whether you're just connecting your book
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To a bigger organization
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Just because that's a good marketing tactic.
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- mm. - and then, i look over
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And the actual ceo of the boy scouts is sitting here.
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You do know about the book? yes, sir?
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- i've read the book. - yeah, yeah.
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You've read the book
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And you're kinda- - i've read the book.
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- you know that- - well, he a-
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- well- - give me a little thumbs up
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On the book.
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Yeah. okay, thanks.
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- i read the book. i love the book.
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The book clearly is fiction
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But i think what it sets up
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Is what is a dragon in a youth's life.
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- mm-hmm. - yeah.
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- right? i mean, they're-
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- an alcoholic father, a this, or you know.
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- and it goes on
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And on and on. - yeah.
00:21:50.766 --> 00:21:52.067
- single parent. - yeah.
00:21:52.067 --> 00:21:54.102
- poverty- - issues. yeah.
00:21:54.102 --> 00:21:56.071
- cancer at an early age.
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And if you read the book as a youth,
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8 to 14 years old, you're gonna go,
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Maybe i can be a dragon slayer.
00:22:05.814 --> 00:22:07.249
- yeah. - mm.
00:22:07.249 --> 00:22:08.517
- and then, what we love is the tie into scouting
00:22:08.517 --> 00:22:09.985
Is one of the things
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We really try to teach is what we call resilience.
00:22:12.487 --> 00:22:14.923
- yeah. - okay.
00:22:14.923 --> 00:22:16.191
And how do you teach a scout resilience?
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Well, it's easy to go camping in july when it's not raining.
00:22:17.993 --> 00:22:23.265
- yeah. - okay.
00:22:23.665 --> 00:22:24.633
- or in this studio where it's-
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(participants speaking at once)
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- this is a studio? - i love
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Camping, by the way. - i'm sleeping here tonight.
00:22:29.805 --> 00:22:31.306
(everybody laughing)
00:22:31.306 --> 00:22:32.240
- that's not how we go camping.
00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.408
- yeah. - we go camping in january.
00:22:33.408 --> 00:22:35.377
- yeah. - okay.
00:22:35.377 --> 00:22:36.311
We go camping - mm.
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- when it's raining, right? - yeah.
00:22:37.446 --> 00:22:38.747
- and the only way you're gonna get warm
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And dry is if you set up a tent.
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So, friday afternoon, you get in the church parking lot,
00:22:43.618 --> 00:22:45.987
You go to the campsite, it's raining,
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It's pouring rain, you gotta get your tent up.
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Once you get your tent up,
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You can put your stuff inside and get dry.
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And then, you figure out how to make a fire
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When the wood's wet by splitting the wood.
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And you can learn how to make a fire
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Without using matches, fire by friction, or steel and flint.
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And then, you come home on sunday
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And you go, hey, i did that.
00:23:07.576 --> 00:23:09.778
- yeah. - i survived that.
00:23:09.778 --> 00:23:11.279
It was, i was cold and wet and now i'm not and i'm dry.
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.617
And i did that. - right.
00:23:15.617 --> 00:23:17.152
- and again, we're youth-led.
00:23:17.152 --> 00:23:19.387
So, the adults don't like soccer.
00:23:19.387 --> 00:23:22.090
What happens in soccer?
00:23:22.090 --> 00:23:23.325
An adult is the coach.
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An adult sets the little yellow cones up,
00:23:24.726 --> 00:23:26.995
Tells the kids how to kick the ball around the cones,
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The adult calls the plays.
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It's not youth
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On youth development. - mm. yeah.
00:23:34.002 --> 00:23:35.904
- in our program, you take...
00:23:35.904 --> 00:23:37.973
And by the way, we rotate the leadership roles.
00:23:37.973 --> 00:23:40.675
So, if you're the quiet kid in the corner,
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Your turn will come up.
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You'll have to buy the food for the camp out.
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You'll have to make the fire, (laurie chuckles)
00:23:49.484 --> 00:23:50.952
You'll have a duty rush, or you'll have to click...
00:23:50.952 --> 00:23:52.754
And eventually, you'll have a leadership position.
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So, the tie in with our program in the book that says,
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We take all the kids who participate,
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We give 'em that experience to develop those qualities
00:24:02.497 --> 00:24:07.168
To be a dragon slayer in the real world.
00:24:07.168 --> 00:24:11.406
- yeah. - right?
00:24:11.406 --> 00:24:12.374
Which is what we're all about.
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And it's why you wrote the book.
00:24:13.308 --> 00:24:14.609
- i'm sure. yeah, absolutely. - yes, yeah.
00:24:14.609 --> 00:24:16.177
- tom, you and i have,
00:24:16.177 --> 00:24:20.482
I don't know how many films in the box office.
00:24:21.416 --> 00:24:24.586
I have 13.
00:24:24.586 --> 00:24:26.488
You have quite a few. - four. yeah.
00:24:26.488 --> 00:24:28.957
- and so, together, we've been,
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I'm gonna say,
00:24:34.162 --> 00:24:35.463
Attempting to be storytellers for a long time.
00:24:35.463 --> 00:24:42.137
I've heard variations
00:24:42.637 --> 00:24:44.606
Of this book, you guys, since i had brown hair.
00:24:44.606 --> 00:24:49.511
Okay? (everybody laughing)
00:24:49.511 --> 00:24:50.445
So, we have been working on this
00:24:50.445 --> 00:24:54.449
In some form or fashion for a long time.
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It's finally out.
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And at some point, tom,
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If you were the scout leader of this,
00:25:07.162 --> 00:25:10.699
There's a lot of resilience
00:25:11.299 --> 00:25:12.801
That it's taken to get to the point
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Where we're sitting here talking about this
00:25:15.036 --> 00:25:17.405
- yeah. - today.
00:25:17.405 --> 00:25:18.974
- when we, many years ago, when we were doing "toymaker",
00:25:20.108 --> 00:25:22.877
There was a slogan in it that said,
00:25:22.877 --> 00:25:25.380
It's just a dream until you believe.
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- [laurie] hmm.
00:25:27.649 --> 00:25:28.617
- a lot of people have dreams,
00:25:28.617 --> 00:25:30.352
But they never believe in it enough to go for it.
00:25:30.352 --> 00:25:33.722
- mm. - to really put the effort in.
00:25:33.722 --> 00:25:35.957
And i think as roger was sharing,
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And as they were talking about,
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Even on the whole "demise of guys" thing,
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Every boy and girl have this question in their mind.
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Do they have what it takes?
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Do i have what it takes
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To be a man? - mm-hmm.
00:25:51.473 --> 00:25:53.074
- do i have what it takes to be a woman?
00:25:53.074 --> 00:25:54.609
And i think they're all, we're all looking for something
00:25:54.609 --> 00:25:58.079
That gives us a foothold, a toehold,
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Something that we can step out in and begin to follow.
00:26:00.815 --> 00:26:03.752
And so, as everybody wants to be successful,
00:26:03.752 --> 00:26:06.988
Everybody wants to have what it takes,
00:26:06.988 --> 00:26:09.824
But what do we put under them?
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What can they do? what inspires it?
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You probably have things that,
00:26:14.162 --> 00:26:15.630
There are moments in your life
00:26:15.630 --> 00:26:17.065
That were breakout moments
00:26:17.065 --> 00:26:18.967
That you've said, you know what?
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I can do this.
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Or you got so convicted or so convinced by a dream,
00:26:21.770 --> 00:26:25.774
Or god speaking to your heart, said,
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I'm gonna do this even if it fails.
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- sink or swim, i'm diving in.
00:26:30.311 --> 00:26:31.980
- it's, yes. exactly. - you know? (laughs)
00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:34.449
- joyce meyer, do it afraid. - yeah.
00:26:34.449 --> 00:26:36.284
- and so, what most people never do,
00:26:36.284 --> 00:26:39.187
They hit the edge of fear.
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What's the thing your mom always says about?
00:26:42.390 --> 00:26:44.526
- faith is going to the edge of all the light you have
00:26:44.526 --> 00:26:48.830
And taking one more step. - mm.
00:26:48.830 --> 00:26:50.732
- that's it.
00:26:50.732 --> 00:26:51.633
So, it's that right there.
00:26:51.633 --> 00:26:53.334
Those are the moments that define our lives.
00:26:53.334 --> 00:26:56.638
Those are the moments that take us from being one of many,
00:26:56.638 --> 00:27:00.308
To be the one that recognizes who they are
00:27:00.308 --> 00:27:03.078
And what they're going to be.
00:27:03.078 --> 00:27:04.746
Zander's little diaper story, he took that step.
00:27:04.746 --> 00:27:08.483
"huh. (scoffs) - yeah.
00:27:08.483 --> 00:27:10.385
- i'm a dragon...
00:27:10.385 --> 00:27:11.486
Where did that come from? - yeah.
00:27:11.486 --> 00:27:12.654
- at some point,
00:27:12.654 --> 00:27:13.922
He began to believe something about himself.
00:27:13.922 --> 00:27:15.690
- mm-hmm. - yeah.
00:27:15.690 --> 00:27:17.225
- and that's what this is really all about to me, matt.
00:27:17.225 --> 00:27:19.260
It's you and i, we've dreamed.
00:27:19.260 --> 00:27:22.764
Every time we've made a movie,
00:27:22.764 --> 00:27:24.299
We thought it was gonna be the best movie ever made.
00:27:24.299 --> 00:27:26.434
(laurie chuckles)
00:27:26.434 --> 00:27:27.669
- of course. geez. - we always do that.
00:27:27.669 --> 00:27:29.137
When you write- - and then-
00:27:29.137 --> 00:27:29.971
- are you kidding?
00:27:29.971 --> 00:27:31.106
"the omega code" (everybody laughing)
00:27:31.106 --> 00:27:32.373
Shoulda have been academy award-winning.
00:27:32.373 --> 00:27:33.308
- well, it brought us together.
00:27:33.308 --> 00:27:34.542
Well, we started working with each other.
00:27:34.542 --> 00:27:36.778
But it's that.
00:27:36.778 --> 00:27:37.746
This is not their first book,
00:27:37.746 --> 00:27:40.582
But it's a book that they had to believe.
00:27:40.582 --> 00:27:42.917
- yeah. - it's not just,
00:27:42.917 --> 00:27:44.185
Oh, wouldn't it be great
00:27:44.185 --> 00:27:45.487
To do something about when you read an article
00:27:45.487 --> 00:27:46.788
About "the demise of guys",
00:27:46.788 --> 00:27:48.256
I'd like to do something about that.
00:27:48.256 --> 00:27:49.691
Well, and you go on with your life.
00:27:49.691 --> 00:27:51.793
- yeah. - no,
00:27:51.793 --> 00:27:52.660
That stuck. - yeah.
00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:54.095
So, you're at home right now.
00:27:54.095 --> 00:27:57.065
There's people at home and they're going,
00:27:57.065 --> 00:27:58.366
"man, there's something...
00:27:58.366 --> 00:28:00.468
I've had a dream to bring change to people.
00:28:00.468 --> 00:28:03.071
I wanted to do something
00:28:03.071 --> 00:28:04.439
That would cause that to happen in someone's life."
00:28:04.439 --> 00:28:06.708
But you got to the edge
00:28:06.708 --> 00:28:08.009
And instead of taking that one more step,
00:28:08.009 --> 00:28:10.779
You shrunk back, you didn't keep walking it out.
00:28:10.779 --> 00:28:14.082
You didn't stick to it.
00:28:14.082 --> 00:28:15.283
And i'm not doing this
00:28:15.283 --> 00:28:17.051
To convict you right now, (solemn music)
00:28:17.051 --> 00:28:18.286
But i know those at home right now,
00:28:18.286 --> 00:28:19.888
You're thinking, "i wish i would've."
00:28:19.888 --> 00:28:22.891
Listen, your life's not over.
00:28:22.891 --> 00:28:25.493
You still have breath in your lungs.
00:28:25.493 --> 00:28:27.662
Take that step.
00:28:27.662 --> 00:28:28.897
Go back to that edge and remember it.
00:28:28.897 --> 00:28:30.765
It is like, go back and find the ax head.
00:28:30.765 --> 00:28:33.101
Remember the story of elisha where the ax head fell?
00:28:33.101 --> 00:28:35.670
What are we gonna do?
00:28:35.670 --> 00:28:36.604
They went back to where it sunk.
00:28:36.604 --> 00:28:39.073
(solemn music)
00:28:39.073 --> 00:28:40.341
Wherever you are in your journey right now,
00:28:40.341 --> 00:28:42.243
You've had a dream and you know it.
00:28:42.243 --> 00:28:43.778
And there's something inside of you
00:28:43.778 --> 00:28:45.079
That wants to go back to do that.
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.549
Ask god, refresh your memory,
00:28:47.549 --> 00:28:50.218
And then go to the edge and take that next step.
00:28:50.218 --> 00:28:53.421
See what god will do.
00:28:53.421 --> 00:28:54.789
Trust beyond just who you are.
00:28:54.789 --> 00:28:57.826
There's something bigger out there.
00:28:57.826 --> 00:28:59.727
And i think that's what this story does,
00:28:59.727 --> 00:29:01.529
And it puts that - yeah.
00:29:01.529 --> 00:29:02.530
- inside of people. - yeah.
00:29:02.530 --> 00:29:03.932
- this environment we're sitting in, from my perspective,
00:29:03.932 --> 00:29:07.936
Looking back at you all, are so realistic.
00:29:07.936 --> 00:29:10.371
I have forgotten
00:29:10.371 --> 00:29:11.773
That i am the chairman (everybody laughing)
00:29:11.773 --> 00:29:13.274
Of trinity broadcasting
00:29:13.274 --> 00:29:14.642
And we have normal programming on the air.
00:29:14.642 --> 00:29:17.212
But what you're reminding me of at some point, tom,
00:29:17.212 --> 00:29:21.716
Is a very common trending theme in preaching.
00:29:21.716 --> 00:29:29.657
And it's identity-based preaching,
00:29:30.391 --> 00:29:34.095
That you have to know who you are in god.
00:29:34.095 --> 00:29:38.032
We get a lot of that from a lot of our pulpits.
00:29:38.032 --> 00:29:41.870
A lot of the programming on tbn is dealing with that.
00:29:41.870 --> 00:29:46.374
But guess what?
00:29:46.374 --> 00:29:47.775
To us adults, it feels like what's happened here
00:29:47.775 --> 00:29:51.779
For all of you parents and grandparents,
00:29:52.647 --> 00:29:55.216
And we're grandparents now, by the way.
00:29:55.216 --> 00:29:57.418
- we are. (laughs) - and is that
00:29:57.418 --> 00:30:01.222
The identity message
00:30:01.222 --> 00:30:03.324
Is now in basically novel form
00:30:03.324 --> 00:30:07.762
For younger kids. - mm-hmm.
00:30:07.762 --> 00:30:09.831
- what age is this ideally written to?
00:30:09.831 --> 00:30:14.235
- yeah. - yeah. it's middle grade.
00:30:14.235 --> 00:30:15.837
So, that 8 to like 14-year-old
00:30:15.837 --> 00:30:18.673
- yeah. - is a really core target,
00:30:18.673 --> 00:30:19.974
But also has a lot
00:30:19.974 --> 00:30:21.242
Of great family read aloud. - mm-hmm.
00:30:21.242 --> 00:30:22.744
- hey, roger just said he loved it.
00:30:22.744 --> 00:30:24.812
- he loved, exactly. - yeah.
00:30:24.812 --> 00:30:25.980
- [candace] so, we've got our ceos.
00:30:25.980 --> 00:30:27.916
- and to your point, in the,
00:30:27.916 --> 00:30:30.618
And i don't want to give
00:30:30.618 --> 00:30:31.653
Your entire book away - yeah.
00:30:31.653 --> 00:30:32.921
- 'cause i know you want people to go buy it.
00:30:32.921 --> 00:30:34.289
But there are many times in the book
00:30:34.289 --> 00:30:36.691
Where george has to make a decision which way to go.
00:30:36.691 --> 00:30:41.396
- yeah. - right?
00:30:41.396 --> 00:30:42.497
- mm-hmm. - probably four or five.
00:30:42.497 --> 00:30:43.698
You probably know. - yeah.
00:30:43.698 --> 00:30:44.966
- [roger] and every time, you can tell,
00:30:44.966 --> 00:30:47.402
He's haunted, he's questioning,
00:30:47.402 --> 00:30:49.771
- mm. - what do i do?
00:30:49.771 --> 00:30:50.838
Do i go the safe path?
00:30:50.838 --> 00:30:52.907
Or his friends are down in the mind.
00:30:52.907 --> 00:30:55.076
Or there's a dragon
00:30:55.076 --> 00:30:56.444
Or there's something
00:30:56.444 --> 00:30:58.446
He has to do with a character named roland.
00:30:58.446 --> 00:31:00.982
And you share with him that indecision, what should i do?
00:31:00.982 --> 00:31:06.254
What's the right decision?
00:31:06.821 --> 00:31:08.790
And sometimes he calls on his training as a scout,
00:31:08.790 --> 00:31:11.693
Sometimes he calls on his just conviction to his friends.
00:31:11.693 --> 00:31:15.463
But he makes that decision and he goes back into the mind.
00:31:15.463 --> 00:31:20.401
He goes towards the danger instead of away from danger.
00:31:20.401 --> 00:31:24.472
- yeah. - and at that age,
00:31:24.472 --> 00:31:26.407
At that level,
00:31:26.407 --> 00:31:27.542
What a great example - mm.
00:31:27.542 --> 00:31:28.776
- for those kids. - yeah.
00:31:28.776 --> 00:31:29.777
- yeah.
00:31:29.777 --> 00:31:31.079
We like to say that we see the imagination
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:33.614
As sort of that bridge between the heart and the mind.
00:31:33.614 --> 00:31:36.784
And so, you talked about sermons
00:31:36.784 --> 00:31:38.886
And there's so many amazing sermons that hit on identity,
00:31:38.886 --> 00:31:41.956
These different ideas that might float over a kid's head.
00:31:41.956 --> 00:31:46.728
But if we can tell the story - mm.
00:31:46.728 --> 00:31:49.397
- in this space of the imagination
00:31:49.397 --> 00:31:51.632
And help it migrate from just an idea that's up here
00:31:51.632 --> 00:31:54.569
To something that hits them in their heart
00:31:54.569 --> 00:31:56.004
And awaken something inside them,
00:31:56.004 --> 00:31:57.772
That really is why we ultimately have told the story
00:31:57.772 --> 00:32:01.342
Is because we do wanna awaken that sense of purpose.
00:32:01.342 --> 00:32:04.946
Tom, you mentioned it,
00:32:04.946 --> 00:32:06.481
There's one of the phrase, you have breath in your lungs.
00:32:06.481 --> 00:32:09.283
There's a line from the character, clementine,
00:32:09.283 --> 00:32:11.285
Who is so fun.
00:32:11.285 --> 00:32:12.887
She's a real spunky girl
00:32:12.887 --> 00:32:14.522
Who's making a movie during the book.
00:32:14.522 --> 00:32:16.691
- uh-huh. - but she's,
00:32:16.691 --> 00:32:18.192
They're in a dying cold town
00:32:18.192 --> 00:32:20.261
And there's not a lot of hope
00:32:20.261 --> 00:32:22.330
When you're just first picking up the book in the town.
00:32:22.330 --> 00:32:24.565
But she says, "i got breath in my lungs.
00:32:24.565 --> 00:32:26.667
I'm here for something and i'm gonna find out why."
00:32:26.667 --> 00:32:28.870
And i think that really is,
00:32:28.870 --> 00:32:30.738
There's so many identity stories
00:32:30.738 --> 00:32:32.273
That are geared toward young kids
00:32:32.273 --> 00:32:33.708
That just turn them more and more inward.
00:32:33.708 --> 00:32:35.543
It's all about me, who i am.
00:32:35.543 --> 00:32:38.579
And it can become very angsty and isolated.
00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:41.649
And we wanted to tell a story - mm-hmm.
00:32:41.649 --> 00:32:43.418
- that asked the question, do i have what it takes?
00:32:43.418 --> 00:32:46.187
And who am i connected to a purpose that's bigger?
00:32:46.187 --> 00:32:49.757
- mm. - because if it's all about
00:32:49.757 --> 00:32:51.192
Who am i just in here, it's becomes a small story.
00:32:51.192 --> 00:32:54.595
- mm-hmm. - but if you are asking,
00:32:54.595 --> 00:32:55.897
What am i here for,
00:32:55.897 --> 00:32:57.398
You're invited into a story where the sky's the limit.
00:32:57.398 --> 00:32:59.967
And i do think, i mean,
00:32:59.967 --> 00:33:01.469
That ultimately is what we believe god has for each of us,
00:33:01.469 --> 00:33:03.171
- right. - is that invitation
00:33:03.171 --> 00:33:04.872
To step into something
00:33:04.872 --> 00:33:05.740
So much bigger. - yeah.
00:33:05.740 --> 00:33:06.674
And- - you know.
00:33:06.674 --> 00:33:07.508
- go ahead.
00:33:07.508 --> 00:33:08.910
And well, i just think when you instill these kinds
00:33:08.910 --> 00:33:11.179
Of things into our kids,
00:33:11.179 --> 00:33:13.481
It builds such a confidence in being able to step out.
00:33:13.481 --> 00:33:17.552
And all of a sudden,
00:33:17.552 --> 00:33:18.653
That becomes the norm of, - yeah.
00:33:18.653 --> 00:33:21.823
- i've done this before.
00:33:21.823 --> 00:33:22.790
God has seen me through this.
00:33:22.790 --> 00:33:24.358
- [candace] mm-hmm.
00:33:24.358 --> 00:33:25.293
- he can do it again, right?
00:33:25.293 --> 00:33:26.561
And so, as you build that faith,
00:33:26.561 --> 00:33:31.132
You can't ever lose when you're walking by faith,
00:33:32.066 --> 00:33:34.535
No matter what. - mm-hmm.
00:33:34.535 --> 00:33:36.871
- nothing's- - absolutely.
00:33:36.871 --> 00:33:37.905
- you can't lose.
00:33:37.905 --> 00:33:39.440
And so, i think when you're building this inside of children
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.944
And telling them and letting them know
00:33:42.944 --> 00:33:45.580
And their identity, the confidence that comes from that.
00:33:45.580 --> 00:33:49.383
And then, where do you get your confidence from?
00:33:49.383 --> 00:33:51.919
My confidence is placed in a great big, wonderful god,
00:33:51.919 --> 00:33:55.823
That sees me through and directs my path,
00:33:55.823 --> 00:33:59.560
And shows me what to do,
00:33:59.560 --> 00:34:01.596
And gives me the faith to move forward.
00:34:01.596 --> 00:34:04.732
- yeah. - mm-hmm.
00:34:04.732 --> 00:34:06.134
- and then, in the scouts, you're always climbing
00:34:06.134 --> 00:34:09.871
To do better, - mm-hmm.
00:34:09.871 --> 00:34:11.139
- to be more, to gain...
00:34:11.139 --> 00:34:15.309
And that's what we, in the kingdom of god,
00:34:15.309 --> 00:34:17.345
You grow in the kingdom of god.
00:34:17.345 --> 00:34:19.680
My faith gets stronger in the kingdom.
00:34:19.680 --> 00:34:21.983
You're going from glory to glory, you know?
00:34:21.983 --> 00:34:24.018
So, i think-
00:34:24.018 --> 00:34:25.119
- we just don't give merit badges.
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:26.320
(everybody laughing)
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:27.922
- i know. we walk on water, my god.
00:34:27.922 --> 00:34:31.159
- and in fact, (laurie laughing)
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:32.093
The religion does the opposite.
00:34:32.093 --> 00:34:33.861
That if you do something, you fail,
00:34:33.861 --> 00:34:35.930
Then you've done something wrong
00:34:35.930 --> 00:34:37.431
And you get knocked - yeah.
00:34:37.431 --> 00:34:38.533
- down the ladder. - boy, man.
00:34:38.533 --> 00:34:39.500
- yeah. - and it's almost
00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:41.135
Like the boy scouts and scouting,
00:34:41.135 --> 00:34:43.371
You have to do a challenge, (matt drowns out laurie)
00:34:43.371 --> 00:34:45.573
And then you get the pin - mm-hmm.
00:34:45.573 --> 00:34:48.409
- on your sash,
00:34:48.409 --> 00:34:49.710
And then you get to sew the thing across.
00:34:49.710 --> 00:34:51.312
- badge. - and you get the...
00:34:51.312 --> 00:34:52.847
So, at some point,
00:34:52.847 --> 00:34:54.882
We're talking about the opposite
00:34:54.882 --> 00:34:57.084
Of what religion talks about.
00:34:57.084 --> 00:34:58.119
- right. - we're talking about
00:34:58.119 --> 00:34:59.387
Going forward and pushing forward.
00:34:59.387 --> 00:35:02.990
And if somebody gets knocked down in the church,
00:35:02.990 --> 00:35:06.861
You get kicked to the curb, and it's just wrong.
00:35:06.861 --> 00:35:12.166
And so, this idea of early stage,
00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:16.270
Get out there and get something done.
00:35:16.270 --> 00:35:18.472
And by the way,
00:35:18.472 --> 00:35:19.707
- and get back up. - getting out there
00:35:19.707 --> 00:35:20.508
And get something done,
00:35:20.508 --> 00:35:21.842
Roger, i don't wanna get you off the set here
00:35:21.842 --> 00:35:25.479
Without kind of at least suggesting
00:35:25.479 --> 00:35:29.217
That you could have retired a few years,
00:35:29.217 --> 00:35:32.420
But instead, you took this. (laurie chuckles)
00:35:32.420 --> 00:35:34.388
A few years ago, you would've been fishing
00:35:34.388 --> 00:35:38.092
And this would've been real,
00:35:38.092 --> 00:35:39.994
And you would've (everybody laughing)
00:35:39.994 --> 00:35:40.962
Really been here. - right.
00:35:40.962 --> 00:35:41.896
He has managed 47,000 employees.
00:35:41.896 --> 00:35:44.899
- right. - you win
00:35:44.899 --> 00:35:46.734
- the boeing company, (laurie laughing)
00:35:46.734 --> 00:35:48.336
All the way to leidos company, which, at some point,
00:35:48.336 --> 00:35:52.773
You were in charge of 47,000 employees at one point.
00:35:52.773 --> 00:35:57.445
And retirement came to you,
00:35:57.445 --> 00:35:59.981
And then all of a sudden, the boy scouts came calling.
00:35:59.981 --> 00:36:02.450
And you said, "yes, sir."
00:36:02.450 --> 00:36:05.152
- well, tom, i think it's just what you said.
00:36:05.152 --> 00:36:07.455
So, you think that like these lessons,
00:36:07.455 --> 00:36:10.758
They're only for the kids or early career.
00:36:10.758 --> 00:36:13.928
And so, i was kinda looking forward
00:36:13.928 --> 00:36:16.664
To getting my handicapped down
00:36:16.664 --> 00:36:20.101
And things like that. (everybody laughing)
00:36:20.101 --> 00:36:21.769
And so, the opportunity came up
00:36:21.769 --> 00:36:23.838
And you have to make a decision.
00:36:23.838 --> 00:36:27.708
You have to decide.
00:36:27.708 --> 00:36:29.010
And i'm going like, how can you say no, right?
00:36:29.010 --> 00:36:33.180
And you get inspired
00:36:33.180 --> 00:36:34.882
And you think about the kids,
00:36:34.882 --> 00:36:36.150
You think about making a difference,
00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:37.718
And it becomes clear.
00:36:37.718 --> 00:36:39.887
- yeah. - you're like,
00:36:39.887 --> 00:36:41.255
No, there's only one decision,
00:36:41.255 --> 00:36:43.424
Right? - yeah.
00:36:43.424 --> 00:36:44.825
- we have a monthly publication that we put out.
00:36:44.825 --> 00:36:47.728
It used to be called boys life.
00:36:47.728 --> 00:36:48.696
It's now called scouting life.
00:36:48.696 --> 00:36:50.031
And in it, we feature heroism of our scouts.
00:36:50.031 --> 00:36:53.901
So, every month, - mm.
00:36:53.901 --> 00:36:55.770
- you can subscribe to it.
00:36:55.770 --> 00:36:57.538
And we actually give out an award.
00:36:57.538 --> 00:37:00.241
We have a big camp in like the one
00:37:00.241 --> 00:37:03.611
At summit bechtel reserve,
00:37:03.611 --> 00:37:04.879
That's featured in the book. - mm.
00:37:04.879 --> 00:37:06.247
- we have another camp in similar, in new mexico.
00:37:06.247 --> 00:37:08.249
We have 200 square miles of land donated to us
00:37:08.249 --> 00:37:11.085
- we were there. - by the phillips.
00:37:11.085 --> 00:37:12.320
- i've been there. - we've been there.
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:13.120
- yeah. - right.
00:37:13.120 --> 00:37:14.221
So, often, you get there by train.
00:37:14.221 --> 00:37:16.524
And two years ago, we had a, we call them tracks,
00:37:16.524 --> 00:37:21.262
Coming back by train, the train derailed.
00:37:21.262 --> 00:37:24.498
Horrible accident. - mm.
00:37:24.498 --> 00:37:25.900
- right? - mm.
00:37:25.900 --> 00:37:27.034
- many fatalities, many injuries.
00:37:27.034 --> 00:37:29.437
What did our scouts do? - mm.
00:37:29.437 --> 00:37:31.138
- did our scouts go right and exit the train?
00:37:31.138 --> 00:37:34.442
No, they stayed in the train.
00:37:34.442 --> 00:37:36.210
They went car by car. - mm.
00:37:36.210 --> 00:37:37.778
- right? - yeah.
00:37:37.778 --> 00:37:38.746
- [roger] providing first aid,
00:37:38.746 --> 00:37:39.947
- rescuing. - helping people,
00:37:39.947 --> 00:37:40.981
Saving lives, - wow.
00:37:40.981 --> 00:37:42.483
- until the fire department
00:37:42.483 --> 00:37:44.685
And the police came and rescued.
00:37:44.685 --> 00:37:46.921
- wow. - and there are stories
00:37:46.921 --> 00:37:48.522
Every month about the kids - mm.
00:37:48.522 --> 00:37:50.758
- who've been exposed to scouting
00:37:50.758 --> 00:37:53.627
And the values that we teach,
00:37:53.627 --> 00:37:55.963
And the courage and the resilience
00:37:55.963 --> 00:37:58.432
And the confidence that our kids have.
00:37:58.432 --> 00:38:01.135
There was no question in their mind what they should do.
00:38:01.135 --> 00:38:04.472
- that's beautiful. - they said,
00:38:04.472 --> 00:38:06.207
"we've gotta go help these people."
00:38:06.207 --> 00:38:08.676
Even though the train was on fire,
00:38:08.676 --> 00:38:10.945
Who knows what could have happened.
00:38:10.945 --> 00:38:12.580
But they chose that path.
00:38:12.580 --> 00:38:15.750
Again, for me, - yeah.
00:38:15.750 --> 00:38:16.684
- my story's really simple.
00:38:16.684 --> 00:38:19.286
How do you ever say no?
00:38:19.286 --> 00:38:20.388
- yeah. - mm.
00:38:20.388 --> 00:38:21.655
- how do you say no when you are called?
00:38:21.655 --> 00:38:22.890
- yeah. - right?
00:38:22.890 --> 00:38:23.924
As they say, call me. - yeah.
00:38:23.924 --> 00:38:26.360
- and- - here i am, lord,
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:27.361
Send me. - and maybe
00:38:27.361 --> 00:38:28.396
That's what happened. - yeah.
00:38:28.396 --> 00:38:29.230
- maybe i was called.
00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:30.498
- i love the connection.
00:38:30.498 --> 00:38:31.899
And i think i want you guys to, eric and candace,
00:38:31.899 --> 00:38:36.670
To start kind of giving me your final,
00:38:36.670 --> 00:38:43.344
Let's lay in the plane here a little bit, as we say.
00:38:44.412 --> 00:38:48.616
But i am drawn again to this drawing in 1908
00:38:48.616 --> 00:38:54.121
- yeah. - that robert baden-powell
00:38:54.855 --> 00:38:58.592
From the early 20th century,
00:38:58.592 --> 00:39:00.161
This was drawn and it was george the dragon slayer.
00:39:00.161 --> 00:39:04.532
And we don't know exactly the legend
00:39:04.532 --> 00:39:08.769
Of george the dragon slayer.
00:39:08.769 --> 00:39:10.404
Some people say it was just a story.
00:39:10.404 --> 00:39:12.373
Some people say it was based on some truth,
00:39:12.373 --> 00:39:14.275
Or some event, or someone did something courageous,
00:39:14.275 --> 00:39:17.478
So it turned into this thing of a dragon slayer.
00:39:17.478 --> 00:39:21.415
But you were writing a story - yeah.
00:39:22.183 --> 00:39:27.054
- 15 years ago,
00:39:27.421 --> 00:39:28.789
Didn't have any idea
00:39:28.789 --> 00:39:30.257
That there was that connection from that long ago.
00:39:30.257 --> 00:39:34.662
And it's like you're writing a book
00:39:34.662 --> 00:39:38.499
And you're telling a story that encompasses the theme
00:39:38.499 --> 00:39:42.136
Of what boy scouts is trying to do for the next generation.
00:39:42.136 --> 00:39:45.606
What you've been doing for all these years.
00:39:45.606 --> 00:39:47.341
And 30 million alums now.
00:39:47.341 --> 00:39:51.812
I was a cub scout.
00:39:52.246 --> 00:39:53.614
My brother was a boy scout. (laurie chuckles)
00:39:53.614 --> 00:39:54.915
You were a boy scout. - at calais.
00:39:54.915 --> 00:39:56.750
- why do you tell stories?
00:39:56.750 --> 00:39:58.385
Why this story?
00:39:58.385 --> 00:39:59.653
What are you trying to say?
00:39:59.653 --> 00:40:00.955
What do you want parents and grandparents to know
00:40:00.955 --> 00:40:04.692
So that they can get this for the right,
00:40:04.692 --> 00:40:06.393
For their kids? - yeah.
00:40:06.393 --> 00:40:07.595
We're big believers.
00:40:07.595 --> 00:40:08.829
We say a lot that the right story
00:40:08.829 --> 00:40:10.598
At the right time can change the world.
00:40:10.598 --> 00:40:12.333
- yeah. - you see it
00:40:12.333 --> 00:40:14.001
Just little example, or not little,
00:40:14.001 --> 00:40:15.803
But "jaws" came out
00:40:15.803 --> 00:40:17.438
And it just devastated the beach industry.
00:40:17.438 --> 00:40:19.573
- yeah. - like, and there are moments,
00:40:19.573 --> 00:40:23.177
Mary poppins inspired fathers
00:40:23.177 --> 00:40:26.580
To spend more time to pay attention to their kids.
00:40:26.580 --> 00:40:28.549
And you see that all over in culture.
00:40:28.549 --> 00:40:30.851
And for us, what the clarifying vision for this
00:40:30.851 --> 00:40:35.756
Is we want to inspire a generation of young men
00:40:35.756 --> 00:40:39.326
And women to be prepared mentally,
00:40:39.326 --> 00:40:41.462
Physically, spiritually, to slay life's dragons.
00:40:41.462 --> 00:40:44.765
And that singular vision (participant lightly chuckles)
00:40:44.765 --> 00:40:49.470
15 years ago is what kept us on all the late nights
00:40:49.470 --> 00:40:53.240
And the early mornings
00:40:53.240 --> 00:40:54.375
And the holidays dedicated toward it,
00:40:54.375 --> 00:40:56.944
Is we see a generation on the other side.
00:40:56.944 --> 00:41:00.114
I think in, a lot of people talk about identity now.
00:41:00.114 --> 00:41:04.985
In many ways, the themes we talk about in that book,
00:41:06.020 --> 00:41:10.324
I feel like are even more,
00:41:10.324 --> 00:41:14.061
They're a bigger deal now
00:41:14.628 --> 00:41:15.930
Than even - mm.
00:41:15.930 --> 00:41:16.931
- when we first started. - yeah.
00:41:16.931 --> 00:41:18.599
- i wanna say something.
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.000
My mom was an english teacher,
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.336
So i fell in love with storytelling.
00:41:23.137 --> 00:41:26.273
And we spent all of our summers
00:41:26.273 --> 00:41:28.442
On a little island up in canada.
00:41:28.442 --> 00:41:30.811
I literally spent four days
00:41:30.811 --> 00:41:32.780
After school was out to four days
00:41:32.780 --> 00:41:34.248
Before school started on an island up in canada.
00:41:34.248 --> 00:41:36.884
Now, it wasn't some luxurious place.
00:41:36.884 --> 00:41:38.652
We literally had an outhouse.
00:41:38.652 --> 00:41:40.054
(laurie chuckles) and we went fishing most days
00:41:40.054 --> 00:41:41.989
And we ate the fish that we caught,
00:41:41.989 --> 00:41:43.390
And we shoot partridge out of trees
00:41:43.390 --> 00:41:44.858
And we'd eat the partridge.
00:41:44.858 --> 00:41:46.060
It was kind of
00:41:46.060 --> 00:41:47.061
A boy scout experience. - yeah,
00:41:47.061 --> 00:41:48.362
That's great. - that's the way i grew up.
00:41:48.362 --> 00:41:49.630
But every year we'd go, my mom would have me
00:41:49.630 --> 00:41:51.699
Take a case of books. - mm.
00:41:51.699 --> 00:41:54.435
- and i would read books nonstop
00:41:54.435 --> 00:41:56.303
With my grandma and grandpa
00:41:56.303 --> 00:41:58.172
When we would read as a family, as a grandfather.
00:41:58.172 --> 00:42:02.209
The grandkids spend the night a lot at our house every time.
00:42:03.410 --> 00:42:06.680
Pop-pops, tell us a story. - mm-hmm.
00:42:06.680 --> 00:42:08.983
- there's nothing like sitting together with your family
00:42:08.983 --> 00:42:12.453
- mm. - and reading a story,
00:42:12.453 --> 00:42:14.688
Watching the excitement.
00:42:14.688 --> 00:42:16.023
The joy you're gonna have reading to shy
00:42:16.023 --> 00:42:19.360
And just beginning to share - mm.
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:20.728
- with your grandson some of the great stories
00:42:20.728 --> 00:42:23.631
And they'll just watch them come alive.
00:42:23.631 --> 00:42:25.833
And there's so many things to do with that.
00:42:25.833 --> 00:42:27.668
But when they do it,
00:42:27.668 --> 00:42:29.003
They'll start asking questions through it.
00:42:29.003 --> 00:42:31.138
So, often, we just go to netflix, we watch a tv show,
00:42:31.138 --> 00:42:35.209
We watch something, and we just check out.
00:42:35.209 --> 00:42:36.877
We're not really interacting with each other.
00:42:36.877 --> 00:42:38.846
I cannot encourage parents, - yeah.
00:42:38.846 --> 00:42:41.615
- grandparents enough to sit with their children,
00:42:41.615 --> 00:42:44.818
Take a great story, - mm.
00:42:44.818 --> 00:42:47.888
- read it together,
00:42:47.888 --> 00:42:49.023
And then talk about it. - mm-hmm.
00:42:49.023 --> 00:42:50.658
- don't just let it go, but read it and talk about it.
00:42:50.658 --> 00:42:54.762
And then, let them, and they say, what would you do in it?
00:42:54.762 --> 00:42:57.464
Would you run? do you think you...
00:42:57.464 --> 00:42:58.699
And just begin to ask them,
00:42:58.699 --> 00:43:00.200
Because then they start to see themselves in the story.
00:43:00.200 --> 00:43:03.303
And when you put them from a third-person
00:43:03.303 --> 00:43:05.205
To a first-person experience, that's when change happens.
00:43:05.205 --> 00:43:08.776
I saw it happen with her boy, elliot,
00:43:08.776 --> 00:43:11.111
He was doing a fundraiser. - oh yeah.
00:43:11.111 --> 00:43:13.747
- okay, now, he doesn't know anything
00:43:13.747 --> 00:43:15.516
About this brochure of things.
00:43:15.516 --> 00:43:16.817
By the time i got there,
00:43:16.817 --> 00:43:18.318
Later in the day- - selling popcorn.
00:43:18.318 --> 00:43:19.687
(everybody laughing) - you're selling popcorn,
00:43:19.687 --> 00:43:20.821
Boy scout popcorn.
00:43:20.821 --> 00:43:21.655
By the time i got there,
00:43:21.655 --> 00:43:23.123
"now, mr. tom," that's what he calls me,
00:43:23.991 --> 00:43:25.626
He said, "you should look at the one
00:43:25.626 --> 00:43:27.227
That has the chocolate-covered ones,
00:43:27.227 --> 00:43:28.729
Because let me tell you why that's gonna be so good."
00:43:28.729 --> 00:43:30.464
And he would just eat. (laurie chuckles)
00:43:30.464 --> 00:43:31.899
He was like- - he just notice
00:43:31.899 --> 00:43:32.966
You were a little chubby
00:43:32.966 --> 00:43:34.134
And then make (everybody laughing)
00:43:34.134 --> 00:43:35.135
That determination. - okay.
00:43:35.135 --> 00:43:36.503
- so, that's taking some initiative at some point.
00:43:36.503 --> 00:43:39.039
I like that kid. - i'm gonna sit you
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:40.774
On the fire. - yeah.
00:43:40.774 --> 00:43:41.975
- okay. (laurie chuckles)
00:43:41.975 --> 00:43:43.243
But he literally had so much confidence.
00:43:43.243 --> 00:43:44.978
I was late in the day. - yeah.
00:43:44.978 --> 00:43:46.280
- when he first got there,
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:47.614
He was kinda like this,
00:43:47.614 --> 00:43:49.416
He can't- - at six years old,
00:43:49.416 --> 00:43:51.018
Five. - took so much ownership.
00:43:51.018 --> 00:43:52.219
Yeah. - but he was out there selling
00:43:52.219 --> 00:43:54.288
And how much did he sell that day?
00:43:54.288 --> 00:43:55.789
- oh, like $1,000 of popcorn.
00:43:55.789 --> 00:43:57.224
- $1,000 worth of popcorn (everybody laughing)
00:43:57.224 --> 00:43:58.892
At sam's, a wholesaler.
00:43:58.892 --> 00:44:01.095
And he was out there
00:44:01.095 --> 00:44:02.362
And you thought the guy was a car salesman.
00:44:02.362 --> 00:44:04.798
And he hadn't done anything (matt laughing)
00:44:04.798 --> 00:44:06.233
Until that day.
00:44:06.233 --> 00:44:07.801
- i love- - that's vicariously
00:44:07.801 --> 00:44:09.937
Living it, reading a story,
00:44:09.937 --> 00:44:12.272
Getting out there and doing it.
00:44:12.272 --> 00:44:13.807
And by the time i was there, he would become an expert. why?
00:44:13.807 --> 00:44:16.744
Life experience,
00:44:16.744 --> 00:44:18.078
Interaction with others, - yeah.
00:44:18.078 --> 00:44:19.580
- that's what scouts provides.
00:44:19.580 --> 00:44:21.381
These experiences are to be shared
00:44:21.381 --> 00:44:23.884
And to be talked about with one another.
00:44:23.884 --> 00:44:25.786
It gives them the courage and me to say, i would do that.
00:44:25.786 --> 00:44:28.489
And, matt, something you said to me, i'll never forget.
00:44:28.489 --> 00:44:32.459
You basically know
00:44:32.893 --> 00:44:34.962
What you're gonna say to anybody at any time.
00:44:34.962 --> 00:44:36.797
And i experienced that firsthand.
00:44:36.797 --> 00:44:38.265
Steven spielberg walking down a hotel,
00:44:38.265 --> 00:44:40.768
Matt and i are walking down the same hotel,
00:44:40.768 --> 00:44:43.170
And he goes, and he walks right over to him,
00:44:43.170 --> 00:44:45.372
And he has three very poignant questions.
00:44:45.372 --> 00:44:47.741
And he goes right to him
00:44:47.741 --> 00:44:48.942
And asks those questions right away.
00:44:48.942 --> 00:44:50.644
He envisions talking to leaders
00:44:50.644 --> 00:44:53.347
And people all over the world, and he has those questions.
00:44:53.347 --> 00:44:55.783
He's already envisioned himself having those discussions.
00:44:55.783 --> 00:44:59.553
Where did that come from?
00:44:59.553 --> 00:45:01.121
Well, his legacy.
00:45:01.121 --> 00:45:03.891
That's part of his legacy.
00:45:03.891 --> 00:45:05.292
But how did that legacy happen?
00:45:05.292 --> 00:45:06.960
By watching his mom and dad, watching others do that.
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.063
The same thing that we need
00:45:10.063 --> 00:45:11.532
To be doing with our children
00:45:11.532 --> 00:45:12.533
- yeah. - and our grandchildren.
00:45:12.533 --> 00:45:14.168
- right. - letting them
00:45:14.168 --> 00:45:15.469
Vicariously prepare for those moments in life.
00:45:15.469 --> 00:45:17.471
- yeah. - and that's how we do it.
00:45:17.471 --> 00:45:19.206
We read, we share, and we discuss those things together.
00:45:19.206 --> 00:45:22.142
- so good. - your final thoughts,
00:45:22.142 --> 00:45:23.944
Candace? - yeah, well, tom,
00:45:23.944 --> 00:45:25.445
What you were saying about just the family sitting around,
00:45:25.445 --> 00:45:26.947
It reminded me of how,
00:45:26.947 --> 00:45:28.048
And it says that jesus never taught
00:45:28.048 --> 00:45:30.017
Without a story. - mm.
00:45:30.017 --> 00:45:31.251
- and that he would tell the stories,
00:45:31.251 --> 00:45:32.586
And then afterward, he would talk
00:45:32.586 --> 00:45:34.154
With his disciples about what they meant.
00:45:34.154 --> 00:45:35.956
And i think there's a power in sharing a story
00:45:35.956 --> 00:45:38.559
With someone that just hits them in their heart.
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:40.527
- mm. - and then,
00:45:40.527 --> 00:45:41.862
There's an opportunity to use it to disciple.
00:45:41.862 --> 00:45:43.597
And i think that is what,
00:45:43.597 --> 00:45:45.232
My hope is that the book can be used to start a conversation
00:45:45.232 --> 00:45:48.869
With somebody who maybe would never listen to one
00:45:48.869 --> 00:45:50.571
Of your sermons on identity,
00:45:50.571 --> 00:45:51.872
But might just need that little starter.
00:45:51.872 --> 00:45:54.141
- mm. - and i hope
00:45:54.141 --> 00:45:55.142
That this could be that,
00:45:55.142 --> 00:45:56.710
But i also hope that a family could read that same parable
00:45:56.710 --> 00:46:00.547
And get deeper into it.
00:46:00.547 --> 00:46:02.115
What does it mean? how does it awaken us?
00:46:02.115 --> 00:46:03.951
How does it...
00:46:03.951 --> 00:46:05.118
The boy scout motto's be prepared.
00:46:05.118 --> 00:46:06.286
And we talk a lot about that.
00:46:06.286 --> 00:46:07.487
Like, how do we prepare ourselves
00:46:07.487 --> 00:46:09.623
For whatever it is god is calling us into?
00:46:09.623 --> 00:46:11.491
I think that would be my hope and my prayer for the story.
00:46:11.491 --> 00:46:15.362
- roger, your final thoughts?
00:46:15.362 --> 00:46:17.097
- well, i love the book.
00:46:17.097 --> 00:46:19.066
I know it's gonna be a big hit.
00:46:19.066 --> 00:46:21.268
I'm holding out for the movie.
00:46:21.268 --> 00:46:23.937
The dragon is really a metaphor to so many things in life.
00:46:23.937 --> 00:46:27.641
And we have the opportunity
00:46:27.641 --> 00:46:29.543
To change the lives of the kids in the country.
00:46:29.543 --> 00:46:32.946
And i love your characters
00:46:32.946 --> 00:46:34.848
Because i think any youth
00:46:34.848 --> 00:46:37.317
Will identify with one of the characters.
00:46:37.317 --> 00:46:39.853
- yeah. - you may not be george,
00:46:39.853 --> 00:46:41.555
You may be skunk, right?
00:46:41.555 --> 00:46:43.156
You may be clementine. (laurie chuckles)
00:46:43.156 --> 00:46:44.625
But, and that's why...
00:46:44.625 --> 00:46:45.726
But you'll find yourself in here
00:46:45.726 --> 00:46:47.361
And you'll be able to relate what happened.
00:46:47.361 --> 00:46:50.230
You'll see how they dealt with adversity
00:46:50.230 --> 00:46:52.232
And how they persevered.
00:46:52.232 --> 00:46:54.468
And persevering for kids today
00:46:54.468 --> 00:46:57.004
Is so important. - yeah.
00:46:57.004 --> 00:46:58.872
- because i worry they lose that in my soccer analogy.
00:46:58.872 --> 00:47:02.309
You know what happens at the end of the soccer game?
00:47:02.309 --> 00:47:04.811
Everyone gets a participation trophy.
00:47:04.811 --> 00:47:06.380
- yeah. - yeah.
00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:07.314
- right?
00:47:07.314 --> 00:47:08.849
And we're not teaching kids how to deal with the real life.
00:47:08.849 --> 00:47:12.786
- wow. - and this is a great analogy
00:47:12.786 --> 00:47:15.188
Of what it's gonna be like for them 10 years later.
00:47:15.188 --> 00:47:18.392
So, i hope everybody gets a chance to read it.
00:47:18.392 --> 00:47:20.360
- in your, jumping off what you said, candace,
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.530
That when jesus told stories,
00:47:23.530 --> 00:47:27.067
At one time in matthew 13, it says in "the message" bible,
00:47:28.235 --> 00:47:32.673
There's a long storytelling afternoon
00:47:32.673 --> 00:47:35.075
For jesus. - mm-hmm.
00:47:35.075 --> 00:47:36.209
- and the disciples came
00:47:36.209 --> 00:47:38.412
And said, "why do you tell stories?"
00:47:38.412 --> 00:47:41.682
And jesus himself said,
00:47:41.682 --> 00:47:45.118
"to create readiness, - mm.
00:47:45.118 --> 00:47:47.621
- to nudge people towards receptive inside of the kingdom."
00:47:47.621 --> 00:47:51.425
- yeah. - so, the very nature
00:47:51.425 --> 00:47:54.428
Of story is to nudge you towards something.
00:47:54.428 --> 00:47:59.700
What is this book nudging?
00:48:00.267 --> 00:48:02.502
Towards identity and understanding that
00:48:02.502 --> 00:48:05.605
There's more inside
00:48:05.605 --> 00:48:07.040
Of you than maybe you initially realize,
00:48:07.040 --> 00:48:09.476
And for a lot of...
00:48:09.476 --> 00:48:10.577
- i love it. - final thoughts?
00:48:10.577 --> 00:48:11.545
- i love what mr. rogers said
00:48:11.545 --> 00:48:12.980
When we had all gathered here on the set.
00:48:12.980 --> 00:48:15.415
He said, "george would love this."
00:48:15.415 --> 00:48:17.284
(everybody laughing)
00:48:17.284 --> 00:48:19.686
And that is, of course, is george in the book.
00:48:19.686 --> 00:48:21.788
I don't have a book, but i just encourage you.
00:48:21.788 --> 00:48:25.592
Grandmas. i'm a grandma.
00:48:25.592 --> 00:48:27.060
I get to read this to shy probably in a year or so.
00:48:27.060 --> 00:48:30.297
- yeah. - so, but again,
00:48:30.297 --> 00:48:33.467
That time of just being around together
00:48:33.467 --> 00:48:36.536
And training your kids, showing them how to do it.
00:48:36.536 --> 00:48:40.507
Come on, people.
00:48:40.507 --> 00:48:42.109
Let's get your faith in action.
00:48:42.743 --> 00:48:44.311
Get in the scouting world.
00:48:44.311 --> 00:48:46.179
Who better to help train our kids for the future.
00:48:47.114 --> 00:48:49.883
If bear grylls can do it,
00:48:49.883 --> 00:48:51.318
- yeah. - if tom newman can do it,
00:48:51.318 --> 00:48:53.420
If you can be a cub scout.
00:48:53.420 --> 00:48:54.688
How old are cubs?
00:48:54.688 --> 00:48:56.223
- yeah,
00:48:56.223 --> 00:48:57.324
They start little guys. - 5 to 11.
00:48:57.324 --> 00:48:58.291
- yeah. - 5 to 11.
00:48:58.291 --> 00:48:59.426
That's great. - yeah, i was in-
00:48:59.426 --> 00:49:00.227
- i love you, guys.
00:49:00.227 --> 00:49:00.994
I thank you
00:49:00.994 --> 00:49:02.262
For doing this project. (laurie drowns out matt)
00:49:02.262 --> 00:49:03.530
- thank you. - thank you for persevering.
00:49:03.530 --> 00:49:04.297
- oh my god-
00:49:04.297 --> 00:49:05.699
- you've done exactly what we're supposed to do.
00:49:05.699 --> 00:49:08.135
We're supposed to persevere.
00:49:08.135 --> 00:49:10.003
And i love, because if we persevere
00:49:10.003 --> 00:49:13.240
And we get patience, we have that patience,
00:49:13.240 --> 00:49:16.543
We start lacking
00:49:16.543 --> 00:49:17.677
No good thing from god. - mm-hmm.
00:49:17.677 --> 00:49:19.146
- and that is a promise to us.
00:49:19.146 --> 00:49:20.380
- yeah.
00:49:20.380 --> 00:49:21.348
- tom, you're the oldest on set,
00:49:21.348 --> 00:49:22.849
Obviously. - yes, tom.
00:49:22.849 --> 00:49:24.084
- and so, i always like
00:49:24.084 --> 00:49:25.352
To let- - refer to our elders.
00:49:25.352 --> 00:49:27.087
- let the elder kind of close out.
00:49:27.087 --> 00:49:29.923
And you're, - for everybody.
00:49:29.923 --> 00:49:31.258
- just your final thoughts as we say goodbye.
00:49:31.258 --> 00:49:34.361
You gotta be at least a proud dad
00:49:34.361 --> 00:49:36.196
And all of that kind of stuff - yeah.
00:49:36.196 --> 00:49:37.798
- for what's going on here.
00:49:37.798 --> 00:49:39.132
- well, i am a very proud dad
00:49:39.132 --> 00:49:41.501
And i feel like kind of a daddy for candace.
00:49:41.501 --> 00:49:44.438
- sure. - and you guys
00:49:44.438 --> 00:49:45.806
Were part of our journey. - i kind of feel like a-
00:49:45.806 --> 00:49:47.374
- she was with- - a mother-
00:49:47.374 --> 00:49:48.608
- [tom] doing one night with the king.
00:49:48.608 --> 00:49:50.110
She was doing - yeah.
00:49:50.110 --> 00:49:50.944
- the dallas shoots
00:49:50.944 --> 00:49:51.878
- yeah. - when she was
00:49:51.878 --> 00:49:53.080
- 17. - yeah.
00:49:53.080 --> 00:49:54.214
- 17 years old.
00:49:54.214 --> 00:49:55.449
- i love it. - yeah.
00:49:55.449 --> 00:49:56.283
- going back to that.
00:49:56.283 --> 00:49:57.384
But you know, it's not, - family.
00:49:57.384 --> 00:49:59.219
- when we start to believe, matt,
00:49:59.219 --> 00:50:01.254
When we take that next step,
00:50:01.254 --> 00:50:04.224
God starts to put all kinds of things in motion.
00:50:05.225 --> 00:50:07.027
- mm-hmm. - that's what i love.
00:50:07.027 --> 00:50:08.295
And the one story that i wanted to get to
00:50:08.295 --> 00:50:10.864
- mm. - was bear grylls
00:50:10.864 --> 00:50:12.732
Wrote the forward to this book.
00:50:12.732 --> 00:50:14.067
- yeah. - mm-hmm.
00:50:14.067 --> 00:50:15.068
- how that happened,
00:50:15.068 --> 00:50:16.303
We were doing a series for tbn,
00:50:16.303 --> 00:50:19.439
"refugee, renegade, redeemer".
00:50:19.439 --> 00:50:22.542
Would you just - yeah.
00:50:22.542 --> 00:50:23.610
- tell it real quick? - yeah.
00:50:23.610 --> 00:50:24.611
Give you the quick summary.
00:50:24.611 --> 00:50:26.646
So, we're run-and-gun, i mean,
00:50:26.646 --> 00:50:28.582
When you work with bear grylls,
00:50:28.582 --> 00:50:29.716
Like you're just- - yeah,
00:50:29.716 --> 00:50:30.750
You're on fire. - it's as fast
00:50:30.750 --> 00:50:32.085
And as awesome as you see. (laurie laughing)
00:50:32.085 --> 00:50:33.520
So, we had one night, we're on the sea of galilee,
00:50:33.520 --> 00:50:35.722
We're just getting to know him a little bit.
00:50:35.722 --> 00:50:39.025
He tells us about this story
00:50:39.025 --> 00:50:41.428
That he read about a young scout
00:50:41.428 --> 00:50:44.464
Named george who slays a dragon.
00:50:44.464 --> 00:50:46.099
He's telling us this.
00:50:46.099 --> 00:50:47.534
- [candace] we're looking
00:50:47.534 --> 00:50:48.702
At each other. - it's truly happening.
00:50:48.702 --> 00:50:50.070
- what's happening? (laughs) - are we being...
00:50:50.070 --> 00:50:50.904
Is this a prank?
00:50:50.904 --> 00:50:52.339
And then, we finally go, (matt laughing)
00:50:52.339 --> 00:50:53.440
Oh, well, bear, that's our story.
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:54.641
And he goes, "i don't understand."
00:50:54.641 --> 00:50:56.977
- he goes, "what's it got to do with you?"
00:50:56.977 --> 00:50:58.044
- yeah. (everybody laughing)
00:50:58.044 --> 00:50:59.446
- we wrote it. - every word in that story.
00:50:59.446 --> 00:51:01.381
Well, someone, we had printed out a book,
00:51:01.381 --> 00:51:03.917
It found its way into his hands, which is one thing.
00:51:03.917 --> 00:51:07.420
But then, he was on a plane
00:51:07.420 --> 00:51:08.855
And he read the whole thing. - he actually read it.
00:51:08.855 --> 00:51:09.923
(candace chuckles)
00:51:09.923 --> 00:51:11.291
- and he said, "well, i should write the forward."
00:51:11.291 --> 00:51:13.727
We like, absolutely. (everybody laughing)
00:51:13.727 --> 00:51:15.395
Well, a few days after that, i had a photo memory come up
00:51:15.395 --> 00:51:19.566
And it's a text i sent to tom, my dad,
00:51:19.566 --> 00:51:22.903
And candace, saying, bear grylls is awesome.
00:51:22.903 --> 00:51:25.372
One day, we're gonna work with him.
00:51:25.372 --> 00:51:26.907
- mm. - and i had, one of,
00:51:26.907 --> 00:51:28.775
Of course, we wanted bear
00:51:28.775 --> 00:51:29.843
To write the forward. - sure.
00:51:29.843 --> 00:51:30.810
- we didn't even have to ask.
00:51:30.810 --> 00:51:31.912
It was like, we-
00:51:31.912 --> 00:51:32.946
- he asked you. - he asked us.
00:51:32.946 --> 00:51:34.748
He had read the story (eric drowns out laurie)
00:51:34.748 --> 00:51:36.049
Before we didn't even had a chance.
00:51:36.049 --> 00:51:37.083
- i do. - but the point was,
00:51:37.083 --> 00:51:39.586
Is when we do our part,
00:51:39.586 --> 00:51:41.188
When we take that step, - yeah.
00:51:41.188 --> 00:51:42.255
- what happens?
00:51:42.255 --> 00:51:43.256
- god steps in. - god shows up.
00:51:43.256 --> 00:51:45.091
- yeah. - yeah.
00:51:45.091 --> 00:51:46.293
- this is, look at this setup, matt.
00:51:46.293 --> 00:51:47.394
You and i, we've known each other.
00:51:47.394 --> 00:51:49.129
We've been very close friends for a whole lot of years now.
00:51:49.129 --> 00:51:52.399
But you know what?
00:51:52.399 --> 00:51:53.500
Thank you for this. - mm.
00:51:53.500 --> 00:51:55.135
- our friendship brought this.
00:51:55.135 --> 00:51:57.904
- yeah. - we stepped out.
00:51:57.904 --> 00:51:59.272
This is what you do better than anybody i know.
00:51:59.272 --> 00:52:02.008
- mm. - thank you for such a gift.
00:52:02.008 --> 00:52:04.244
You are a gift to us,
00:52:04.244 --> 00:52:05.812
To our family, for this to happen.
00:52:05.812 --> 00:52:08.448
Bear grylls stepping up and doing this.
00:52:08.448 --> 00:52:10.717
Random house, the largest publisher
00:52:10.717 --> 00:52:12.819
In the world did this book. - yeah.
00:52:12.819 --> 00:52:15.088
- it's like, my kid. (tom clapping)
00:52:15.088 --> 00:52:16.923
- [matt] you have the chief scout
00:52:16.923 --> 00:52:18.792
Sitting right next to you. - the chief scout.
00:52:18.792 --> 00:52:20.493
- confirming. (participants speak at once)
00:52:20.493 --> 00:52:22.395
(everybody laughing)
00:52:22.395 --> 00:52:23.296
- we got the chief scout.
00:52:23.296 --> 00:52:24.631
It's just like, okay, how does this happen?
00:52:24.631 --> 00:52:26.433
- yeah. - yeah.
00:52:26.433 --> 00:52:27.467
- you know what? - i love it.
00:52:27.467 --> 00:52:29.135
- an article, "the demise of guys",
00:52:29.135 --> 00:52:31.137
And everybody followed their steps
00:52:31.137 --> 00:52:33.206
And did what they were supposed to do.
00:52:33.206 --> 00:52:34.441
And here we are.
00:52:34.441 --> 00:52:35.375
Do your part. - and-
00:52:35.375 --> 00:52:36.576
- tell the story.
00:52:36.576 --> 00:52:37.711
- and staying faithful - read it.
00:52:37.711 --> 00:52:38.645
- to the call. - yes.
00:52:38.645 --> 00:52:39.512
- right. - we always
00:52:39.512 --> 00:52:40.680
Want a faith from god - 15 years.
00:52:40.680 --> 00:52:41.715
- to come on our behalf. - yes.
00:52:41.715 --> 00:52:43.250
- you know how my dad (matt drowns out laurie)
00:52:43.250 --> 00:52:44.684
Used to talk about this subject is a fun little thing.
00:52:44.684 --> 00:52:48.521
Everybody has a big dream that they want to fulfill.
00:52:48.521 --> 00:52:51.424
And i remember this story.
00:52:51.424 --> 00:52:53.093
He used to say it and he'd go,
00:52:53.093 --> 00:52:54.928
"everybody looks at somebody
00:52:54.928 --> 00:52:56.696
Like franklin graham and he feeds people.
00:52:56.696 --> 00:52:59.733
When a disaster happens,
00:52:59.733 --> 00:53:01.201
Truck shows up and towns are helped.
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And it's just, wouldn't that be great?
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A lot of people have a real desire.
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That would be the greatest job in the world
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To be able to, tornado hit, and 50 semi tractors show up
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And everyone's helped and all that.
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Wouldn't that be great?"
00:53:17.284 --> 00:53:18.785
And my dad used to sit there and look into the camera.
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Sometimes he'd go, "you have that desire
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To help people or to feed people at a time of need.
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Well, go to your kitchen counter,
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- mm-hmm. - grab a can of beans,
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Drive down to a part of town where you might find somebody
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That looks like they need that can of beans
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And hand it to 'em. - mm-hmm.
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- and all of a sudden,
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You're in the food distribution business
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Right then, right there.
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That's you, you're in it."
00:53:41.508 --> 00:53:42.876
And sometimes, my dad would say,
00:53:42.876 --> 00:53:46.212
"that's what jan
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And i had to do to start this entire network.
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We just had to say yes." - mm-hmm.
00:53:49.916 --> 00:53:52.285
- and that's what we're trying
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To say to a generation, yes.
00:53:55.388 --> 00:53:57.324
- mm-hmm.
00:53:57.324 --> 00:53:58.458
- step out, let god meet you there,
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Slay whatever dragons you need slayed in your life
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And get after it.
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And we just happened to be able to say it
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In about 300 pages this time. (laurie laughing)
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"george goodwin, dragon slayer: a scouting legend".
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It's on sale now.
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Thank you, guys, for being here.
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Troop trinity,
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A virtual troop trinity. - all right.
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- [matt] get the book (howling sound effect)
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And go slay some dragons.
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(upbeat music) (wings flapping)
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Roger Krone, Tom Newman, Candace Lee & Eric Newman: The Heart of a Scout: Called to Be Courageous | Praise

June 2, 2026 | 54:45

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