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April 30, 2026 | 55:45

Sheila Walsh welcomes Tara-Leigh Cobble, creator of The Bible Recap, for an inspiring conversation on engaging with God’s Word. Tara shares how reading Scripture chronologically and looking for God—not ourselves—can completely transform how we understand the Bible. With practical tools, relatable insights, and personal testimony, she offers simple ways to build a daily habit of reading Scripture, overcome confusion, and grow in intimacy with God. Be encouraged to take the next step in your faith and experience the life-changing power of God’s Word.

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Male announcer: coming up tonight on "praise."
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Tara-leigh cobble: if we go to the movies, you don't watch it
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Out of order.
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You don't skip around and you don't show up 30 minutes late
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And watch 5 minutes and walk out and expect to understand the
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Plot, and you certainly don't expect to fall in love with the
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Lead character.
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Announcer: tonight on "praise" from dallas, bible teacher and
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Best-selling author of "the bible recap," tara-leigh cobble.
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And now your host, sheila walsh.
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Sheila walsh: hi. welcome, everybody.
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Oh, it's so wonderful to have a live studio audience tonight,
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And you're gonna love this show. if
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I was to ask you, what is the one thing after your salvation
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That has made the greatest impact on your life, what would
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It be?
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But if you asked me that question, i would tell you the
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Word of god has changed my life, changed my mind, renewed
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My mind.
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But if you're like me, i remember when i was younger
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Finding it hard to study and finding it hard to read
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The bible.
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It's like, "where do i start and how do i read the bible?"
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So we thought, let's do a program where we invite someone
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Who has made that their mission, their calling,
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Tara-leigh cobble.
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Please welcome her from "the bible recap."
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[audience applauding]
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Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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Tara-leigh: hello, everyone. hello.
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Sheila: can i just start by saying how loved you are.
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Are you aware of that?
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That's probably a hard question to answer, but.
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Tara-leigh: i just--i love that i get to read the bible
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With people.
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It's my favorite thing in the world.
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And i tell everybody, if you want to feel closer to someone,
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Read the bible with them.
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And if i am loved, it is because i read the bible with
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These people.
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So what an encouragement to read the bible with the people in
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Your life.
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Sheila: let me just ask, how many of you here in our studio
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Audience have read "the bible recap"?
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Wow.
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That's just about everybody, i think, me included.
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I have my own copy and i absolutely love it.
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I have both actually.
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I have one that's chronological in order, and then i have a new
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Ones coming out that's just "the bible recap," which
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Is fantastic.
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But i wanted to ask you, first of all--i had to make
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Notes 'cause--
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Tara-leigh: i found these for you.
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Sheila: oh, thank you.
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Tara-leigh: you're welcome.
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Sheila: these are the questions they think i'm gonna ask.
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So, obviously this has touched millions of people.
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So my first question to you is simple.
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What made this so practical and accessible?
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Why have so many people found a path home in this?
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Tara-leigh: i think--i'll tell you what i think, and the
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Audience can agree or disagree, and you can agree or disagree.
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I think, first of all, it's because it takes us through
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The story.
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It does that chronological process.
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And so when you get to feel the story of something, when you
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Move through the story, you understand better.
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It fills in the gaps where if you're reading front to back or
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If you're reading some old testament, some new testament,
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And psalm, like, every day, you don't really get into the story.
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And so i think the story helps.
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I also think that it helps that it's quick and easy.
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It is 12 minutes of reading a day and 8 minutes of listening
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To me talk to you, whether it's audio or video, or if you're
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Doing the book, 2 pages a day.
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So those two things.
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And then finally, i think the fact that it's in
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Layman's terms.
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We have 5 and 6-year-olds who do "the bible recap" with their
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Parents, the adult "bible recap," even though we have "the
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Bible recap" for kids, but they are finding it palatable because
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It's in layman's terms.
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For instance, if you haven't done "the bible recap," there's
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A day where we do a lot of reading about the size of the
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Temple, and it's this many cubits by that many cubits by
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That many cubits.
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And on "the bible recap" i say, "we've read a lot today
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Of dimensions.
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And who even knows what a cubit is?"
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It's about 18 inches.
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"but what you need to know is that the temple is about half
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The size of a chick-fil-a, give or take the playground,
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You know."
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Sheila: so everybody immediately knows.
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Tara-leigh: right, exactly. you can picture it.
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And so i think the fact that it is story, quick, and layman's
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Terms makes it really accessible.
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Sheila: what would you say to people who say, "well, i love
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The new testament, but i really don't get the old testament?"
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Tara-leigh: i understand that feeling.
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That is very relatable to me.
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I spent most of my life sitting in what i call the "comfortable"
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Seats of scripture.
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I loved any book that started with a p, psalms,
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Proverbs, philippians.
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That was, you know--
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Sheila: all the good p books.
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Tara-leigh: right, exactly.
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And i just liked to camp out in those spaces, and i didn't like
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To move into the prophets and the history books.
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Those were more challenging for me.
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I found that when you read the old testament in order and you
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Look for jesus--because he says the old testament is all
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About him.
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And that was a real eye-opener for me.
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So reading the old testament in order with a lens to look for
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God in those passages really helped it come alive to me.
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And it shocks me that some of my favorite passages are now in the
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Old testament.
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And if you do "the bible recap" with me, there are days in
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Leviticus where i'm in tears.
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Like, it is wild the stuff that will come off the page when
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You're looking for god in scripture.
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Sheila: what's your own early experience with god's word?
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Tara-leigh: so i was blessed to grow up in a home that had tbn
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On the back, you know, playing all day long.
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We--you know, michael w. smith in the car, church three times a
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Week, private christian school.
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So i grew up just with the word of god saturating my entire
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Existence, and that was just such a gift to me.
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Sheila: tremendous gift.
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So for people who are totally relating to your love of the ps,
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You know, of philippians and psalms, what made you decide,
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"okay, i'm gonna start at the beginning and read the
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Whole thing?"
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Tara-leigh: i had a dear friend who was a pastor, and his name
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Is lee, and he's still a pastor to this day.
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But i had struck up a friendship with him and would often ask him
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Questions about the bible, and i think in that he determined that
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I clearly didn't understand scripture as much as i thought
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I did.
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So he said, "tara-leigh, have you ever read the whole bible?"
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And i said, "i'm pretty sure i've, like, checked the box of
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All of the chapters at some point."
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Because of everything i just told you.
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And he said, "have you ever read it in order?"
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I said, "no."
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And he said, "how about you start today?
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You can read the whole bible in a year in just 12 minutes a day.
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I think you should start today and read it all."
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Well, first of all, it was august, and everybody knows
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That's not when you start reading the bible, right?
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I was like, "the--i'll talk to you in 5 months, you know."
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But second of all, i realized i didn't want to.
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I didn't want to because i had ventured outside of the p books
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And they made me feel like a bad christian, because i didn't
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Understand them, because i found them off-putting and confusing.
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And, like, "why do i have to read all this stuff about boils
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And sores and all of these names, and which of these lies
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Apply to me?"
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And it just felt overwhelming, and so i didn't want to.
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And he said, "how about you give it a shot and i'll answer your
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Questions along the way."
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I started the next day and we talked once a week and he
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Answered my questions.
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Every day i would make notes in my journal, what are my
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Questions, and every week i would talk to him and he would
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Help me understand that i was gaining more and more and more
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Understanding the more i moved through.
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Some of that was embarrassing.
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I was asking questions that i was ashamed to ask.
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Sheila: but see, that's--i think that's huge, though, because so
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Many of us have questions that we think, "well, i probably
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Should know this, so i shouldn't ask."
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And yet to me that's one of the greatest things, that we get to
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Come as we are and to ask those questions.
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Tara-leigh: yes.
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And it's so cool now that after--i think i'm on my 17th or
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18th trip through.
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And i make notes in the margins of my bible, and through the
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Years there are notes that i have made that i now have
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Crossed out because i realize that thing that i thought i
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Learned then, god has actually taught me that's--i keep
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Learning, is what i'm trying to say.
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And so reading scripture will humble you.
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You never get to feel like you know it all.
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So that feeling of, like, "i should know this," the enemy can
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Really use that against you, can make you not want to engage.
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But i'm here to tell you i learn new stuff all the time, even on
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17, 18 trips through scripture.
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It is humbling and it is so encouraging because there's
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Always something new to learn and discover in scripture.
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Sheila: so when you get to the end, having got through the
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Whole bible one time, how did that feel?
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Tara-leigh: well, so lee had walked with me through scripture
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For a year.
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And you would think i would feel elated, right?
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I had accomplished this thing that a lot of people wanna do.
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And it'd been hard, but i got to the end of it and it was the
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Following august and i had read it all and i went to lee and i
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Said, "i don't know what to do because i read all of this and i
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Believe this is truly the word of god, i believe it's true
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Cover to cover, and i don't like him."
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Sheila: wow, wow.
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Tara-leigh: what do you do when your whole life, earliest
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Memory, all of my relationships--i was in
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Full-time ministry.
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I'd never felt so desperate in my life.
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That's when i finished reading the bible the first time.
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Sheila: so let me ask you, what was it about what you
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Were reading?
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I mean, i remember my son going through a stage like that when
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He was young, reading some passages that he couldn't
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Understand in the old testament.
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And he's like, "if that's what god's like, mom, i don't think i
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Want to know him."
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What was it that hit your heart?
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Tara-leigh: i think i had bumped into so many passages of
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Scripture that i'd never encountered before.
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As i was reading scripture i had these thoughts of, like, "i
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Would make a better god than you.
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I would not do it that way.
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Who do you think you are?"
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Sheila: wow.
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Tara-leigh: it chafed against my ideas of justice, it chafed
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Against my ideas of autonomy.
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And so i was bumping into aspects of god's character that
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I had never come face to face with and i could not deny that
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It was true because i'm seeing it in his word.
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It's what he says about himself.
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And i had to wrestle my flesh to the ground.
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Praise god that pastor said--because he had walked
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Through scripture with me for a year, he said, "tara-leigh, i've
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Walked with you for a year, i see the kinds of questions that
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You're asking about scripture, which lets me know the lens that
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You're reading scripture through.
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So i have a new challenge for you.
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I want you to read it again."
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And at this point i was like, "i will do anything."
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Because i was so in despair.
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I mean, i was like, "i can't do my job in full-time ministry
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Anymore because i can't fake it and i--what--where am i gonna
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Work, what am i gonna do, and how are my relationships with my
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Family and my friends gonna change, and do i go to church
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On sunday?
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Like, what--how do i untangle my world from this ideology?"
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So he said, "i want you to read it again."
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And i was like, "okay."
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And he said, "and this time, i want you to look for god and
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Stop looking for yourself."
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Sheila: wow.
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Okay, let's just pause right there.
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Start looking for god and stop looking for yourself.
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So you feel like the first time you read through that's what you
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Were looking for?
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Tara-leigh: absolutely.
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And i think it's human nature.
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Isn't one of the questions that people ask you when you talk
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About reading the bible, they'll say things like, "well, how does
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This even apply to me?
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How does this apply to me?"
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And it's like, well, if this is the god of the universe and this
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Is his universe that you're living in and this is what he
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Tells you about himself, that's every--like, that applies
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To you.
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For any married person, if somebody said to your spouse,
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"well, how does your wife apply to your life?"
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Like, doesn't that feel kind of gross and distant
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And non-relational?
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Sheila: yeah, yeah.
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That wouldn't intimate no intimacy in relationship.
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Tara-leigh: exactly, exactly.
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So i was looking for--primarily, i was looking for two things.
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What are god's commands that i have to obey, how do i be a good
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Christian, check all the boxes, make god happy, and i wanted to
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Know, what are the promises of god that i can cling to?
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And i attach those things together in such a way that if i
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Do the commands, then i get everything i want in
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Life, right?
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Sheila: how's that working for you?
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Tara-leigh: well, still single, and so--you know, so not great,
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But--and that was one of the things i wrestled with, was i'm
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Reading through scripture and i'm like, "oh, these promises
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Of god."
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And i'm--you know, like, we all love jeremiah 29:11, you know?
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"i know the plans i have for you.
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Plans to give you hope and a future and plans to prosper you,
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Not to harm you."
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God will give you the desires of your heart.
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And those things--i'm reading those passages and i'm finishing
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The book, and i know that the end of the story is that the
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Apostles die terrible, painful deaths.
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Sheila: yeah.
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Tara-leigh: and i see that not all the people of god who obey
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God so fervently--they don't get what they want sometimes.
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They don't get treated in ways that i think would be fair.
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And so for instance, if you're doing "the bible recap" with us,
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It's hard for people--every year, we hit the part where
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Moses doesn't get to go into the promised land, and it really is
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Infuriating to a lot of people.
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Like, why would god do that?
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Now, you put a pin in that, you fast forward to jesus on the
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Mount of transfiguration, and moses did get to go into the
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Promised land in a way that was much better than with a million
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Disobedient, complaining, grumbling people.
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He is watching jesus transfigure and prophesy about, like, his
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Crucifixion and resurrection, like.
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Sheila: yeah.
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Tara-leigh: and that's so much more powerful when you read the
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Story in order.
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Sheila: but then you need the whole story, don't you?
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Tara-leigh: exactly, right?
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But for me, when i'm reading through and i'm looking for
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Myself, i wanna know, "what do i have to do to make you happy so
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That you'll give me what i want?"
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It was very transactional.
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And when i got to the end and saw, "oh, it doesn't work that
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Way," i did not like that.
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I didn't like it.
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Sheila: so you decide you're gonna start again, but through a
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Different lens.
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Talk to me--talk to us about that.
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Tara-leigh: so i had some very practical tips that lee gave me.
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He's--i said, "how do i look for god?
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What do you mean?"
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And he said, "okay, here's some very practical ways.
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First, does god say or do anything in this passage?
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That's easy.
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Does he say or do anything in this passage?
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Does this passage reveal anything about what god loves?
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Does this passage reveal anything about what god hates?"
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Which might come as a shock to some people, that god
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Hates things.
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And they're like, "god is love."
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If you love anything, you have to hate what threatens
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That thing.
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You happen to love, you know, reese's peanut butter eggs, but
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You have a child who is allergic to peanut butter.
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"get those things out of my house."
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Right?
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All of a sudden, things fall into their rightful position.
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So god hates sin because he loves his kids and he loves his
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Glory, and he has a way for things to work out well, and it
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Is for his kids flourishing to obey him, and when they don't
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Obey him, he hates their sin.
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Not them, but their sin.
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And you learn to make those delineations when you're looking
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For what god loves and what god hates.
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He said to also look for what motivates god to do what
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He does.
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And so that is most easy to see when you're following the
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Storyline of scripture, because it's hard to determine motive if
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You read things out of order.
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You can't see cause and effect and things like that.
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And so spoiler alert, if you drill down on most things, the
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Motive is love.
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And so that is something that you can always see if you zoom
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Out on a text.
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And then some easy gimmes are, is there an attribute of god
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Listed in this passage, is there a name of god listed in
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This passage?
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Because names of god are based on what god does.
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Jesus is called savior because he saves.
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The holy spirit is called guide because he guides.
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Those are things that he does, they're not just names.
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And so those seven things, what does god say or do, what does
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God love or hate, what motivates him to do what he does?
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Names and attributes.
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I was looking for that every day, and i cannot tell you how
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Hard that was for me.
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I would read the passage every day and i would get to the end
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And i would only have looked for myself again.
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And so--
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Sheila: an honest woman.
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Tara-leigh: right?
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So every day in my journal i had to, like--i wrote at the top,
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Like, "where do you see god in this passage?"
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We've now shortened that language to--with "the bible
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Recap" we call that the god shot.
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What is your snapshot of god and his character from that
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Day's reading?
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And i'll tell you, it's still really hard for a lot of people.
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Even people who've done "the bible recap" for a long time,
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They'll come back to me and they'll say, "oh, man, i love
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Today's passage.
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My god shot is that i need to be nicer to my kids."
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And i was like, "that's your you shot.
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Your god shot might be god is really patient with
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His children."
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And when we behold care--
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Sheila: different perspective.
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Tara-leigh: right?
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And when we receive it, we can distribute it.
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I have found that when i read the word of god to look for god,
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The spirit of god empowers me to live like jesus in the world,
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But that doesn't come by me going, "what's the checklist i
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Have to fulfill so that i can, you know, not commit any of the
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Embarrassing sins and get what i want out of life?"
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Sheila: what's fascinating to me about that is that i lived that
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Way for years after my father committed suicide when i was 5.
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And so to me love is not a guarantee.
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It can be there one day and it can be taken away.
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Tara-leigh: wow.
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Sheila: so i even went to seminary like that.
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I went through london theological seminary looking for
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Everything in god's word to know, "okay, what's
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The possibility?
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If i do this, will god stop loving me, if i do this, will
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God stop loving me?"
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That's why i loved the way that god has anointed you for this,
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'cause it's not just you just woke up one morning and thought,
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"oh, let's do this."
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It's clear that god is using you in a powerful, powerful,
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Powerful way.
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Tara-leigh: thanks, god.
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Sheila: and, you know, the interesting thing is i went back
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To seminary a second time to do my master's to learn everything
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That god has already done.
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So tell me, when you got through the second time, how was
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That different?
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Tara-leigh: okay, so i started out desperate.
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Remember?
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And i'm just thinking, "you just gotta make it a year."
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God is so generous because i did not have to make it a year.
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I was halfway through the old testament and i fell in love.
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Like, just smitten with the character of god.
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And, you know, i don't know how much anybody who's watching
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Right now knows about the old testament, but that is not where
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You expect that to happen.
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And i was in the major prophets, i believe, and that was one of
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The sections that i mostly struggled with.
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And i just suddenly--it's wild to me, sheila, that i could read
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Scripture with one lens and have one response, and then same book
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Less than a year later and have a totally different response
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Just because i was using a different lens.
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The lens you read scripture through matters.
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It determines what you see.
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The questions you ask of scripture determine what you
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Learn from it.
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So ask the right questions, look for the right things, and it
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Will come alive to you in a way that you never thought possible.
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And i've not looked back.
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I have not looked back.
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Every single day, i've been in god's word, and i'm in it until
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I die.
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I'm doing "the bible recap," i'm doing the same reading plan.
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I learn new stuff all the time and it is--for me it used to be
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Kind of a box to check and now it is air to breathe.
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Sheila: i love that.
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I used to have the bible on my to-do list.
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Now it's on my who i am list.
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Tara-leigh: yes, yes.
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Sheila: that makes a big, big difference.
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Tara-leigh: right?
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And to me that sounded--if i would hear people
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Say things like that, i was like, "are they faking that?
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Are they making that up?
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And if not, if it's real, are they just built different than
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I am?
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And if it is possible for me, how do i get there?"
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It sounds like you and i both had a journey of god faithfully
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Getting us there.
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When you were in that space where you were going through
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Seminary and you're asking those questions all the time of, like,
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"oh, is god's love gonna--is it gonna show up again or is it
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Gonna go away?"
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What was the turning point for you in that?
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Sheila: interesting turning point.
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I mean, i went through--all the way through seminary like that,
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And honestly left seminaries with almost an internal list of
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These are all the things that we do to please god and to honor
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God, so is he.
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But god in his kindness allowed my life to collapse.
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I ended up in a psychiatric hospital for a month, diagnosed
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With severe clinical depression 'cause i'd never dealt with the
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Fact that my father tried to kill me before he
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Killed himself.
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But you know what i've discovered about the greatness
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Of our god?
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And you will get this.
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Sometimes god will take you to prison to set you free.
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Some--god will do whatever he needs to do to get through to us
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To help us understand, you know, "no.
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This is who i am."
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You know, it's like i used to pursue perfection.
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Now, i pursue christ who's perfect and i get to show up as
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I am.
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Tara-leigh: i think that's human nature.
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No matter what story we go through, we all are trying
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To--it's human nature to try to earn and to try to prove.
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And we treat the cross like it was a down payment on a
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Long-term installation plan that we are responsible for, and that
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Is not the gospel, that is not the gospel.
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The gospel is it is finished, the finished work of jesus on
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The cross.
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And i will never forget, i was--when i was 6 years old in
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1st grade i was wrongly accused of cheating in class.
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And because i went to a private christian school, they sent me
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Home with a little note letting my parents know that i was gonna
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Be spanked the next day.
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They wrote it in cursive 'cause they thought i couldn't read
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Cursive, but joke's on them, i could.
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And so i read the note in cursive, which doesn't--i guess
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Doesn't exist anymore, and i cried myself to sleep before my
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Parents got home from work.
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When they got home, they came into my room to get me and they
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Were like, "what are you doing in bed at, you know, 5 p.m.?"
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And i said, "i got in trouble at school and i'm gonna get
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Punished tomorrow, but don't worry, i already asked jesus to
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Save me again."
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And my dad said, "oh, honey, that's not how any of
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This works.
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That's not how this works.
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You are his and you are gonna sin for the rest of your life
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And he loves you, he loves you.
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He has already paid for the sins that you have not yet committed.
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You don't have to ask him to save you every time."
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I had--even just as a 6-year-old who mostly had exposure to
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Scripture, had that idea that i have to earn it.
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I have to earn the love, i have to keep the love, i have to
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Maintain the love.
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And thank god for the fact that the truth caught me young,
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Because i can't imagine what that would have--how i would
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Have spun out on that.
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Perfectionism--one of the things i tell people is, put your
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Perfectionism to death.
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It is keeping you from good and it is keeping good from you.
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Sheila: wow, beautiful.
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I just have to ask, did you get spanked the next day?
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Tara-leigh: i did get spanked.
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Sheila: just seems so wrong.
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Tara-leigh: i know, i know.
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The boy who told the teacher i was cheating really thought i
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Was cheating, but i wasn't, you know?
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Sheila: if you're just joining us, this is an incredible
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"praise" this evening.
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We are--i'm here with tara-leigh cobble, whose bible--"the bible
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Recap" is just incredible.
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If you don't know about it, find out as fast as you can, and
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We'll tell you some more toward the end of the program as how
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You can get involved in this beautiful movement.
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It's not like a list of what you have to do, it's an invitation
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Into the very presence of god, which changes everything.
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So let me ask you, if somebody's watching right now and they're
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Thinking, "well, i'd love to enter the bible.
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Where do i even start?"
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Tara-leigh: i suggest starting at the start, and that could be
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The start of the old testament or the start of the
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New testament.
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Both of those are great places to start.
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If someone is new and a year-long reading through the
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Whole bible plan feels intimidating--even if you're not
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New, that can still feel intimidating.
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The new testament, if you do "the bible recap," it's a
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3-month plan.
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And i hold your hand every step of the way, every single day.
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And i think the start is a great place to start with anything we
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Do like this, especially when we're following the storyline.
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If we go to the movies, you don't watch it out of order,
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You know?
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You don't skip around and you don't show up 30 minutes late
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And watch 5 minutes and walk out and expect to understand the
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Plot, and you certainly don't expect to fall in love with the
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Lead character.
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I love doing the full bible reading plan, but truly what we
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Found is that if somebody's intimidated and they just do the
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New testament, it is the gateway for them doing the whole bible.
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They just keep going.
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They--it whets their appetite and they just keep going.
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Sheila: so if somebody is struggling right now, that would
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Be your advice, to start there?
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Tara-leigh: yeah.
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I know a lot of people will say start with the gospel of john,
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But i find, especially the first chapter of john is so poetic and
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It's this beautiful language that i'm like, "what does
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This mean?"
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And it's great and it does point to jesus as god, and that is a
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Wildly important message that is--it sets christianity apart
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From every other world religion.
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And so john is a great place to do that as well, but i think for
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Some people the poetic imagery can be confusing.
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Sheila: okay, i'm not a big numbers person, but let me share
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One with you that blew me away.
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Tara-leigh's--we get to also call her tlc.
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Don't you love that?
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Tlc.
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Downloads of her podcast, half a billion, half a billion.
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Tara-leigh: glory to god.
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Sheila: blows me away.
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Tara-leigh: i need you to know i started this in my dining room.
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I recorded that podcast on a 99-dollar headset microphone
00:28:20.655 --> 00:28:25.627
Combo from amazon.
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And the box that it came in, i stuck my head in it.
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That was my studio.
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This was--this--i never--my prayer was that 300 people.
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I was leading a bible study of about 1,200 women, and my prayer
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Was that 300 women in that study would read the bible with me.
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I had no idea that any of you guys would come read the bible
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With me, that i would get to read the bible with you.
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I had no idea.
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And that is all--that's glory to god, glory to god.
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Yeah.
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Sheila: so talk to me about your podcast.
00:28:55.890 --> 00:28:57.325
How does it work?
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Tara-leigh: so "the bible recap" is available as a book, as a
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Audio podcast, as a youtube channel.
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We're on the bible app, we're on the dwell bible app, we're in
00:29:04.933 --> 00:29:07.735
Various spaces.
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And you can get it all for free.
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The book is not free, but everything is out there
00:29:11.840 --> 00:29:13.541
For free.
00:29:13.541 --> 00:29:14.876
Cost you $0.
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The way it works is you choose your chronological plan, whether
00:29:16.477 --> 00:29:19.480
That is the new testament plan or the whole bible plan, and you
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Do your 12-ish minutes of reading a day.
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Sheila: i mean, who can't do 12 minutes?
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Tara-leigh: right?
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And if you are a slow reader, you can't read, you have bad
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Eyesight, don't let anyone tell you that listening to the bible
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Doesn't count.
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It counts.
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For the bulk of human history, that's the only way most people
00:29:38.867 --> 00:29:43.404
Were able to access scripture.
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The printing press hadn't been invented yet.
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People were poor, people were illiterate, copies were rare.
00:29:48.243 --> 00:29:52.513
Most of the people who have read scripture throughout the history
00:29:52.513 --> 00:29:55.250
Of the world have listened to it.
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And this is the day and age when we have just so many
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Options available.
00:30:01.122 --> 00:30:02.457
Like, sheila, if you wanted to listen to a person with an
00:30:02.457 --> 00:30:05.593
Australian accent read the king james version at 1.5x, you
00:30:05.593 --> 00:30:10.031
Could, right, you know?
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And so everyone has 12 minutes a day, and whether you do it in
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The car, in the shower, or whether you're just sitting down
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And focused.
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Like, i like to--here's how i start my day.
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I get my phone, that is, my alarm, and i open my bible app
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First thing and i pray.
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There's five prayers that i pray before i read the bible every
00:30:30.752 --> 00:30:32.687
Day and they're in the bible app's reading plan for "the
00:30:32.687 --> 00:30:36.190
Bible recap."
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So i do those five prayers, and then i hit play on the audio
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Bible before my feet hit the ground.
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Sheila: wow, before you even get out of bed.
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Tara-leigh: before--i need god's words in my ears before my feet
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Are on the floor.
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No one should encounter the version of tara-leigh cobble
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That has not first encountered the living god.
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Sheila: right there with you, sister.
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Tara-leigh: right, right?
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And so i'm listening to it as i'm, you know, doing my coffee,
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Doing my--you know, all that, washing my face.
00:31:00.882 --> 00:31:03.885
Then i like to sit down and lay my eyes on it, and sometimes i
00:31:03.885 --> 00:31:08.489
Will play the audio while i'm reading it, and then i do "the
00:31:08.489 --> 00:31:11.559
Bible recap" with myself.
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I listen every day and i learn things that i forgot i taught,
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And it happens all the time.
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And people are like, "are you ever gonna, you know, add in
00:31:20.401 --> 00:31:22.070
New things?"
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I'm like, "i'm still learning the old things i taught,
00:31:23.438 --> 00:31:24.772
You know?"
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That's--so that's the process, is you engage with scripture
00:31:26.541 --> 00:31:29.577
First, and it's about 12 minutes, about 3 chapters, some
00:31:29.577 --> 00:31:32.680
Days are longer, some days are shorter, but that's the average,
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.149
Then you come to the audio, the video, the book, and it's about
00:31:35.149 --> 00:31:39.087
8 minutes a day of me explaining what you just read, the
00:31:39.087 --> 00:31:42.490
Overarching storyline, and then ending every day with the
00:31:42.490 --> 00:31:45.626
God shot.
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Sheila: how long did this take you?
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Tara-leigh: i'll tell you, i thought it was gonna take me
00:31:50.064 --> 00:31:51.666
About an hour a day.
00:31:51.666 --> 00:31:53.267
An 8-minute podcast, how long can that take?
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Eight minutes to record.
00:31:55.837 --> 00:31:57.238
I knew i was gonna, like, script it out first, but it ended up
00:31:57.238 --> 00:32:01.209
Taking 100 hours a week for 15 months to do the initial build
00:32:01.209 --> 00:32:06.247
Of it.
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And the year that we first launched it, some days i was
00:32:07.749 --> 00:32:10.485
Maybe just two episodes ahead, just scrambling.
00:32:10.485 --> 00:32:14.722
But it's because what i wanted to do was, i had--at that point
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I'd read through the bible ten times.
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And i had 10 years of journals with all of my notes, and so i
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Was looking at each day's reading in 10 different things
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And, like, stacking my notes together.
00:32:25.967 --> 00:32:27.535
And then i was like, "oh, wait, i don't just need to talk about
00:32:27.535 --> 00:32:29.837
My notes, i need to tell the story.
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And when reading the story, i need to assume what the
00:32:32.774 --> 00:32:36.511
Questions of the reader might be that i haven't addressed in
00:32:36.511 --> 00:32:39.547
My journals."
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Because the stuff that already made sense to me or that i'd
00:32:40.948 --> 00:32:42.984
Already learned somewhere, i didn't make notes about.
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So it was quite the endeavor.
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Sheila: it's so interesting what you said there 'cause every
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Morning when i'm driving in here to work, press this little
00:32:49.590 --> 00:32:53.027
Microphone button on my car and i say, "play praise
00:32:53.027 --> 00:32:56.397
And worship."
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And so it'll start playing this praise and worship, which
00:32:57.732 --> 00:33:00.034
I love.
00:33:00.034 --> 00:33:01.369
This morning it was hope darst with--what's her new song?
00:33:01.369 --> 00:33:05.273
"in the mighty name of jesus."
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Oh, and i know hope.
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I--she--i adore her.
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Powerful, powerful song.
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But i found myself as i turned it off and i was praying, i was
00:33:11.979 --> 00:33:15.750
Praying for you and i was praying for you and i was
00:33:15.750 --> 00:33:17.919
Praying for everyone at home, i suddenly thought, "you know what
00:33:17.919 --> 00:33:21.289
I'm gonna start now?
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I'm gonna start listening to god's word on my way."
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Not that i don't love listening to praise and worship, but i
00:33:26.227 --> 00:33:28.830
Thought what a beautiful extra way to get the word of god deep
00:33:28.830 --> 00:33:32.834
Inside you when you're stuck in a car anyway.
00:33:32.834 --> 00:33:34.902
This is dallas.
00:33:34.902 --> 00:33:36.237
We have traffic, people, so--
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Tara-leigh: truly. we need that, yeah.
00:33:37.772 --> 00:33:40.141
I think it's something that we undervalue because we are in
00:33:40.141 --> 00:33:43.778
Such a scripture-saturated society.
00:33:43.778 --> 00:33:45.746
I think, in a lot of ways, our familiarity with god is keeping
00:33:45.746 --> 00:33:49.050
Us from intimacy with god and--
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Sheila: that's interesting.
00:33:52.353 --> 00:33:54.188
Tara-leigh: i mean, it's why i thought i didn't need to read
00:33:54.188 --> 00:33:55.923
The bible.
00:33:55.923 --> 00:33:57.258
Was like, "i think i got it covered.
00:33:57.258 --> 00:33:58.593
I think i know the important parts."
00:33:58.593 --> 00:33:59.961
And i would have probably been that lukewarm christian in
00:33:59.961 --> 00:34:04.065
Full-time ministry for the rest of my life had god not
00:34:04.065 --> 00:34:08.136
Intervened through the kind words of a friend to challenge
00:34:08.136 --> 00:34:12.473
Me to read the whole bible.
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Sheila: amazing.
00:34:14.408 --> 00:34:15.776
Okay, i want you to do something for us now if
00:34:15.776 --> 00:34:17.512
You're comfortable.
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Find a text and kind of unpack it for us.
00:34:18.846 --> 00:34:21.482
Tara-leigh: ooh, fun.
00:34:21.482 --> 00:34:22.817
Sheila: will you do that?
00:34:22.817 --> 00:34:24.185
Tara-leigh: yes.
00:34:24.185 --> 00:34:25.520
Should i do, like, a verse or, like, a chapter?
00:34:25.520 --> 00:34:27.288
Sheila: start with a verse.
00:34:27.288 --> 00:34:28.656
Tara-leigh: start with a verse, okay.
00:34:28.656 --> 00:34:30.491
So this is one thing that i--blows my mind.
00:34:30.491 --> 00:34:32.126
'cause we're talking about the word of god, so this is perfect
00:34:32.126 --> 00:34:34.061
Timing for psalm 119:105.
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Psalm 119, longest chapter of the bible, middle chapter of
00:34:37.098 --> 00:34:39.667
The bible.
00:34:39.667 --> 00:34:41.002
So if you have your bible and you wanna try to find the
00:34:41.002 --> 00:34:42.737
Middle, that'll get you close to psalm 119.
00:34:42.737 --> 00:34:45.706
Psalm 119:105 says, "your word is a lamp unto my feet and a
00:34:45.706 --> 00:34:51.212
Light unto my path."
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So, you know, we just--we love that.
00:34:53.114 --> 00:34:55.149
Sounds nice.
00:34:55.149 --> 00:34:56.484
"oh, god's word, it's--just lights up my world, you know?"
00:34:56.484 --> 00:35:01.622
But i--as i was reading through one time, i was like, "lamp
00:35:01.622 --> 00:35:04.825
And light.
00:35:04.825 --> 00:35:06.160
I wonder what those words are in hebrew."
00:35:06.160 --> 00:35:08.796
There's a great tool that's free, that's a greek and hebrew
00:35:08.796 --> 00:35:12.533
Lexicon, which is kind of like--
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Sheila: i use it all the time.
00:35:14.235 --> 00:35:15.870
Tara-leigh: yes.
00:35:15.870 --> 00:35:17.238
Blue letter bible, is that what you use?
00:35:17.238 --> 00:35:18.573
So i love their website blb.org, and it's free.
00:35:18.573 --> 00:35:21.909
And you type in the verse and you go to the word and you can
00:35:21.909 --> 00:35:25.313
Look up the original language.
00:35:25.313 --> 00:35:26.647
It'll even tell you how to pronounce it, which is helpful
00:35:26.647 --> 00:35:29.183
For me.
00:35:29.183 --> 00:35:30.551
I looked up the word lamp and i looked up the word light, and
00:35:30.551 --> 00:35:32.420
The word lamp is the hebrew word "near" and it's basically like a
00:35:32.420 --> 00:35:38.593
Little candle, like a little foot lamp.
00:35:38.593 --> 00:35:41.229
It only lights the next step.
00:35:41.229 --> 00:35:43.564
It is just enough light for the very next step.
00:35:43.564 --> 00:35:47.168
Your word is a foot lamp.
00:35:47.168 --> 00:35:49.136
It shows me exactly where to put the next step that i take.
00:35:49.136 --> 00:35:53.708
Okay, great.
00:35:53.708 --> 00:35:55.076
How is that different from a light to my path?
00:35:55.076 --> 00:35:58.312
'cause aren't we walking along a path here?
00:35:58.312 --> 00:36:00.147
Isn't that what that light is?
00:36:00.147 --> 00:36:02.016
That is the hebrew word "or," so "near" and "or."
00:36:02.016 --> 00:36:05.653
And i'm probably mispronouncing those.
00:36:05.653 --> 00:36:07.888
I'll check with blue letter bible later.
00:36:07.888 --> 00:36:10.057
But that is essentially like the fire of a thousand suns.
00:36:10.057 --> 00:36:14.929
It's a flood lamp.
00:36:14.929 --> 00:36:17.531
And so if we look at these two things together, we see that
00:36:17.531 --> 00:36:20.268
God's word tells us exactly the next step and it also tells us
00:36:20.268 --> 00:36:26.540
The eternal truth.
00:36:26.540 --> 00:36:28.175
The things that are true for the whole world, the things that are
00:36:28.175 --> 00:36:31.279
Eternally true for all mankind.
00:36:31.279 --> 00:36:33.381
It is the flood lamp and the foot lamp.
00:36:33.381 --> 00:36:38.719
And i love that.
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.888
Because i think there's a tendency to sometimes downplay
00:36:40.888 --> 00:36:44.825
My need to engage with god for direction or to engage with his
00:36:44.825 --> 00:36:47.428
Word for direction.
00:36:47.428 --> 00:36:48.796
"oh, times have changed, or, oh, well, god doesn't care what job
00:36:48.796 --> 00:36:52.199
You take, he just wants you to have a job.
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.735
God doesn't care which house you buy."
00:36:54.735 --> 00:36:56.971
God absolutely cares about every single detail, every single--you
00:36:56.971 --> 00:37:01.842
Know, romans 8:28, god works all things together for the good of
00:37:01.842 --> 00:37:04.445
Those who love him, for those who are called according to
00:37:04.445 --> 00:37:06.013
His purpose.
00:37:06.013 --> 00:37:07.348
God works all things together.
00:37:07.348 --> 00:37:09.383
You can't work all things together if you're disengaged
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From some things.
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And so in this passage i have hope that there is no prayer too
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Small for me to pray, there is no prayer too big for me to
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Pray, there is nothing that god is not engaged in.
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And so i am that person who prays for parking spots and
00:37:25.499 --> 00:37:30.705
Thanks him for parking spots.
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I--and i can defend it theologically, right?
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Sheila: but there's something great about that.
00:37:40.481 --> 00:37:41.816
'cause i'm thinking of those who are watching who are
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Thinking--they're trying to see a long distance ahead maybe and
00:37:43.384 --> 00:37:47.955
They feel like maybe god's showing them one step.
00:37:47.955 --> 00:37:50.524
Like, my mom, my darling mom loved jeremiah 29:11 and she had
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It on our wall.
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And i used to as a obnoxious teenager say to her, "i would
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Just like to see the plans.
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If i can just see the plans and make suggestions, i'll sign off
00:38:02.970 --> 00:38:06.841
On the plans."
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And my mom would help me understand, "no.
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You take the next step."
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I think that's probably a word for some people who are watching
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Right now.
00:38:14.882 --> 00:38:16.250
You know, you feel like god is showing you one step to take,
00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:18.686
But you wanna know, but what will happen after that?
00:38:18.686 --> 00:38:21.489
We trust god with--because when you take that one step, then god
00:38:21.489 --> 00:38:25.559
Shows you the next step.
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Tara-leigh: and the thing that i think is so vital to remember in
00:38:27.361 --> 00:38:29.897
That is that we should be less concerned with the destination
00:38:29.897 --> 00:38:34.535
Than the one who has planned the destination and is guiding us
00:38:34.535 --> 00:38:37.371
There step by step.
00:38:37.371 --> 00:38:38.939
He is with you.
00:38:38.939 --> 00:38:41.442
He's with you.
00:38:41.442 --> 00:38:42.810
He's not going anywhere, he's not going to leave you or
00:38:42.810 --> 00:38:44.779
Forsake you.
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He is going to guide you and he's going to go with you the
00:38:46.113 --> 00:38:48.082
Whole way.
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And if you start to run off, he's gonna drag you back.
00:38:49.450 --> 00:38:51.619
Like, that's just--he's gonna chase you down.
00:38:51.619 --> 00:38:55.823
And he chased you down, he chased me down.
00:38:55.823 --> 00:39:00.628
And i think, you know, if we look at jeremiah 29:11, it's so
00:39:00.628 --> 00:39:06.200
Interesting because he does know the plans he has for us, to
00:39:06.200 --> 00:39:08.702
Prosper us, not to harm us, and plans to give us hope and
00:39:08.702 --> 00:39:11.038
A future.
00:39:11.038 --> 00:39:12.406
And those were a people, the people that jeremiah wrote those
00:39:12.406 --> 00:39:15.276
Words to and about, were about to go into 70 years of
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Babylonian exile.
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Sheila: yeah, i said to my mom, "read the two verses
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Before, mom."
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Tara-leigh: right? yeah.
00:39:23.384 --> 00:39:24.819
And some of those people that those words were written to and
00:39:24.819 --> 00:39:27.455
About died in exile, and god was with them.
00:39:27.455 --> 00:39:31.959
One of the places that i got most wrecked in the old
00:39:31.959 --> 00:39:34.895
Testament is if you see, like, the whole--there's so much
00:39:34.895 --> 00:39:37.965
Journey to get to the promised land, to the promised land.
00:39:37.965 --> 00:39:40.367
They're having to follow god step by step to get to the
00:39:40.367 --> 00:39:42.036
Promised land, and then they--god--they--teaches them
00:39:42.036 --> 00:39:44.839
How to build the temple.
00:39:44.839 --> 00:39:46.173
They build the temple, the spirit of god comes and dwells
00:39:46.173 --> 00:39:47.741
In the temple.
00:39:47.741 --> 00:39:49.109
These people are there, and god keeps telling them, "if you sin
00:39:49.109 --> 00:39:50.778
You're gonna go into exile, i'm gonna have to send you out.
00:39:50.778 --> 00:39:52.680
If you sin i'm gonna have to send you away."
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And they keep doing it and keep doing it.
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And then he goes, "okay, you're going to babylonian exile."
00:39:57.017 --> 00:40:00.721
And the spirit of god comes out of the temple and goes with his
00:40:00.721 --> 00:40:08.863
People into exile.
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He's like, "i gotta punish you, but i'm coming with you."
00:40:13.434 --> 00:40:17.371
Like, god doesn't run from our sin.
00:40:17.371 --> 00:40:20.941
He doesn't have to hide from our sin.
00:40:20.941 --> 00:40:23.344
He's not afraid.
00:40:23.344 --> 00:40:24.678
Like, that idea that god turns away from us when we sin, no.
00:40:24.678 --> 00:40:30.851
We--he knows we're helpless without him.
00:40:30.851 --> 00:40:33.354
And so those people that jeremiah 29:11 was written
00:40:33.354 --> 00:40:36.323
About, god brings them out of exile just like he promised 70
00:40:36.323 --> 00:40:39.827
Years later.
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He did give them that bit of this--that he told them
00:40:41.195 --> 00:40:42.796
Nothing--not the whole plan, but, like, he said 70 years
00:40:42.796 --> 00:40:44.832
Of exile.
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And he came back out with them, and they came back and lived in
00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:49.470
Jerusalem again.
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And sometimes the beauty is how god is with us in exile.
00:40:51.305 --> 00:40:57.678
That has been such a gift to me in really tough times--
00:40:57.678 --> 00:41:01.982
Is, like, "i don't know what you're doing, i kind of hate it
00:41:01.982 --> 00:41:08.355
Here, but i trust you."
00:41:08.355 --> 00:41:11.025
Sheila: yeah.
00:41:11.025 --> 00:41:12.359
There's something beautiful about that though, tara-leigh.
00:41:12.359 --> 00:41:14.361
There's something about--one of the things the lord taught me in
00:41:14.361 --> 00:41:17.064
Some of the hardest seasons of my life was not to hurry through
00:41:17.064 --> 00:41:21.302
That valley, but to realize he's with me in that valley, in
00:41:21.302 --> 00:41:25.239
That place.
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:26.607
Even if i walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
00:41:26.607 --> 00:41:28.409
Even there, i will fear no evil.
00:41:28.409 --> 00:41:30.444
Why?
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"because you are with me."
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Not 'cause is no evil around.
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Tara-leigh: right?
00:41:34.481 --> 00:41:35.849
Sheila: we live in a crazy world.
00:41:35.849 --> 00:41:37.184
The reason we don't fear is, "because you are with me."
00:41:37.184 --> 00:41:40.020
Tara-leigh: yes.
00:41:40.020 --> 00:41:41.355
And if we keep going in that chapter, "you prepare a table
00:41:41.355 --> 00:41:44.291
Before me in the presence of my enemies, you anoint my head with
00:41:44.291 --> 00:41:46.193
Oil, my cup overflows, surely goodness and mercy shall follow
00:41:46.193 --> 00:41:48.896
Me all the days of my life and i shall dwell in the house of the
00:41:48.896 --> 00:41:51.031
Lord forever."
00:41:51.031 --> 00:41:52.533
The beginning of that, the "you prepare a table for me in the
00:41:52.533 --> 00:41:55.636
Presence of my enemies," that sounds great, but if tara-leigh
00:41:55.636 --> 00:41:59.039
Cobble had written that verse, i would have said, "you prepare a
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.742
Table before me.
00:42:01.742 --> 00:42:03.077
You've annihilated my enemies, you know?"
00:42:03.077 --> 00:42:04.979
Sheila: "and only invited my friends."
00:42:04.979 --> 00:42:06.513
Tara-leigh: right?
00:42:06.513 --> 00:42:07.848
Exactly.
00:42:07.848 --> 00:42:09.216
But how much do you have to trust the one who throws the
00:42:09.216 --> 00:42:11.318
Banquet, who seats you at the table to be able to sit down and
00:42:11.318 --> 00:42:15.456
Feast when your enemies are encamped around you?
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Sheila: that's a powerful word.
00:42:19.026 --> 00:42:20.628
Powerful.
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Tara-leigh: right?
00:42:21.996 --> 00:42:23.330
And guess what?
00:42:23.330 --> 00:42:24.698
Our enemies have to watch god bless us with blessings that are
00:42:24.698 --> 00:42:27.134
Exclusive to god's kids.
00:42:27.134 --> 00:42:29.570
And if they get a little holy jealousy in them, all the
00:42:29.570 --> 00:42:32.373
Better, 'cause there's room at the table for them too.
00:42:32.373 --> 00:42:34.742
Pull up a chair, join the family of god.
00:42:34.742 --> 00:42:39.113
There's room at the table.
00:42:39.113 --> 00:42:40.481
Sheila: i love that.
00:42:40.481 --> 00:42:41.849
What's the difference between reading the bible and studying
00:42:41.849 --> 00:42:45.753
The bible?
00:42:45.753 --> 00:42:48.122
Tara-leigh: this is a great question.
00:42:48.122 --> 00:42:49.456
Somebody in the audience said, "great question."
00:42:49.456 --> 00:42:50.824
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:50.824 --> 00:42:52.593
"the bible recap" is where we read the bible.
00:42:52.593 --> 00:42:54.328
It is very much just a--you read it, and then i go, "here's what
00:42:54.328 --> 00:42:57.197
You just read."
00:42:57.197 --> 00:42:58.932
To study the bible, you need usually more time and
00:42:58.932 --> 00:43:02.403
More tools.
00:43:02.403 --> 00:43:03.837
And so you and i just talked about one, blue letter bible,
00:43:03.837 --> 00:43:06.306
Blb.org, where you can look up words in greek and hebrew.
00:43:06.306 --> 00:43:10.544
Bible commentaries, things like that are great for studying the
00:43:10.544 --> 00:43:12.846
Bible, but it usually is more time required for that and more
00:43:12.846 --> 00:43:18.452
To--time and tools.
00:43:18.452 --> 00:43:19.820
And so what we found was when people were doing "the bible
00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:21.689
Recap," especially when we got to the new testament, people
00:43:21.689 --> 00:43:25.426
Would say, like, "oh, i want to just, like--just dig deeper into
00:43:25.426 --> 00:43:28.796
This passage."
00:43:28.796 --> 00:43:30.130
Nobody ever says that about, like, leviticus.
00:43:30.130 --> 00:43:31.632
But they're like, "oh, i just wanna camp out in, you know, the
00:43:31.632 --> 00:43:35.102
Gospel of john."
00:43:35.102 --> 00:43:36.470
And so we started writing bible studies.
00:43:36.470 --> 00:43:39.873
My team and i get together once every 3 months and we write a,
00:43:39.873 --> 00:43:43.010
Like, 250-page line-by-line exegetical study of the text and
00:43:43.010 --> 00:43:47.448
We teach you how to use these free tools that are online, like
00:43:47.448 --> 00:43:50.751
Greek and hebrew lexicons and commentaries and study bibles
00:43:50.751 --> 00:43:53.287
That will help you learn how to study scripture and connect
00:43:53.287 --> 00:43:57.658
Things together.
00:43:57.658 --> 00:43:59.026
And it will be a 10-year project to write a bible study on every
00:43:59.026 --> 00:44:04.198
Book of the bible.
00:44:04.198 --> 00:44:05.532
Sheila: i have you one on romans.
00:44:05.532 --> 00:44:06.900
Tara-leigh: oh, great. sheila: it's phenomenal.
00:44:06.900 --> 00:44:08.936
Tara-leigh: oh, praise god. we have a great team.
00:44:08.936 --> 00:44:10.471
That my team and i--there are seven of us who go away and
00:44:10.471 --> 00:44:14.241
Write those studies, and we write them in a week.
00:44:14.241 --> 00:44:15.943
We do a lot of work in advance, but we write them in a week.
00:44:15.943 --> 00:44:18.278
And by the time we finish there'll be 40 of those studies,
00:44:18.278 --> 00:44:21.882
Lord willing.
00:44:21.882 --> 00:44:23.217
Sheila: wow, that is beautiful.
00:44:23.217 --> 00:44:25.519
What do you do--i mean, this will sound like a faithless
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.656
Question in some ways, but i'm thinking of somebody who thinks,
00:44:29.656 --> 00:44:32.226
"you know what?
00:44:32.226 --> 00:44:33.560
I want to want this, but i just don't feel like it.
00:44:33.560 --> 00:44:35.329
I just don't feel like doing this."
00:44:35.329 --> 00:44:37.998
Well, what do you do, and do you still ever have days like that?
00:44:37.998 --> 00:44:41.335
Tara-leigh: sure.
00:44:41.335 --> 00:44:42.669
Yeah.
00:44:42.669 --> 00:44:44.037
I would say to that person--'cause i know i have
00:44:44.037 --> 00:44:45.839
Been that person, and so i can't know exactly what is in your
00:44:45.839 --> 00:44:49.243
Heart or mind, but if it looks anything like mine, i didn't
00:44:49.243 --> 00:44:54.081
Want to, but i wanted to want to.
00:44:54.081 --> 00:44:57.551
And so, do you want to want to read the bible?
00:44:57.551 --> 00:45:01.121
If so, confess that to god, he already knows, and ask him for
00:45:01.121 --> 00:45:05.092
Help, ask him for help.
00:45:05.092 --> 00:45:06.894
James 1:5, god says in his word, "if any of you lacks wisdom, let
00:45:06.894 --> 00:45:12.866
Him ask god who gives generously to all without reproach, and it
00:45:12.866 --> 00:45:16.336
Will be given him."
00:45:16.336 --> 00:45:18.238
That is a prayer that you are guaranteed a yes for.
00:45:18.238 --> 00:45:21.942
There are not many prayers that i can pray that i know god is
00:45:21.942 --> 00:45:24.511
Gonna answer with a yes.
00:45:24.511 --> 00:45:26.013
He might answer with a no, he might answer with a wait.
00:45:26.013 --> 00:45:27.681
He always answers all the prayers of his kids, but i don't
00:45:27.681 --> 00:45:30.484
Know that i'm gonna get a yes, but this one i do.
00:45:30.484 --> 00:45:33.587
And so ask him for wisdom to understand his word, ask him to
00:45:33.587 --> 00:45:38.025
Change your heart.
00:45:38.025 --> 00:45:39.426
He can do that, you know?
00:45:39.426 --> 00:45:40.994
The, "lord, i believe, help my unbelief," that's a great prayer
00:45:40.994 --> 00:45:44.398
To pray.
00:45:44.398 --> 00:45:45.732
That was spoken to jesus, the living god.
00:45:45.732 --> 00:45:48.368
Sheila: and he honored that prayer.
00:45:48.368 --> 00:45:49.703
Tara-leigh: and he honored it, yes.
00:45:49.703 --> 00:45:51.038
And so confessing to god where you are is a great place
00:45:51.038 --> 00:45:54.041
To start.
00:45:54.041 --> 00:45:55.375
And i would say, get somebody to do it with you.
00:45:55.375 --> 00:45:59.413
Don't go it alone, you know?
00:45:59.413 --> 00:46:02.416
Have somebody that you can ask your questions to.
00:46:02.416 --> 00:46:04.885
And i would love to be a person that you read the bible with
00:46:04.885 --> 00:46:07.788
Through "the bible recap," but it's also great to have another
00:46:07.788 --> 00:46:10.123
Person in your life.
00:46:10.123 --> 00:46:11.491
And you guys, get on a text thread or get on a--you know, a
00:46:11.491 --> 00:46:13.961
Group together in the bible app or you get a group of women that
00:46:13.961 --> 00:46:16.663
You meet together and have coffee once a week and you talk
00:46:16.663 --> 00:46:19.066
About what you've learned.
00:46:19.066 --> 00:46:20.434
Get some accountability in that.
00:46:20.434 --> 00:46:21.802
It's gonna keep you in it on the days when you don't want to.
00:46:21.802 --> 00:46:25.038
Sheila: i have three--i call them my safe sisters.
00:46:25.038 --> 00:46:28.609
It's four of us and we--once a week we get on a zoom call
00:46:28.609 --> 00:46:31.879
'cause we all live in different parts of the country.
00:46:31.879 --> 00:46:34.047
And once or twice i've just not felt like it, you know.
00:46:34.047 --> 00:46:37.351
I still sometimes struggle with depression and some days feel
00:46:37.351 --> 00:46:40.120
Darker, and so i'm just like, "hey, girls, i'm not joining
00:46:40.120 --> 00:46:42.689
This morning."
00:46:42.689 --> 00:46:44.024
And they're immediately...
00:46:44.024 --> 00:46:45.592
I mean, they're like buzzards on me and they're like, "sheila, i
00:46:45.592 --> 00:46:49.129
Don't care if you're in your pajamas with no makeup.
00:46:49.129 --> 00:46:51.098
Sit down and get on the call."
00:46:51.098 --> 00:46:52.766
Tara-leigh: yes, yes.
00:46:52.766 --> 00:46:54.101
Sheila: and i have to tell you there's never been one time that
00:46:54.101 --> 00:46:56.737
I've been sorry that i did that.
00:46:56.737 --> 00:46:58.672
I usually end up in tears because they remind me of what's
00:46:58.672 --> 00:47:02.109
True all the time no matter what might be true for a season, they
00:47:02.109 --> 00:47:05.946
Remind me of the goodness of god.
00:47:05.946 --> 00:47:08.348
It's so good to have people like that in your life.
00:47:08.348 --> 00:47:10.751
Tara-leigh: yes, yes.
00:47:10.751 --> 00:47:12.319
With "the bible recap" we have tbr groups who do "the bible
00:47:12.319 --> 00:47:14.755
Recap" together.
00:47:14.755 --> 00:47:16.123
And we also have an organization called d-group international.
00:47:16.123 --> 00:47:18.859
That's that bible study that i led of 1,200 women.
00:47:18.859 --> 00:47:21.929
Sheila: wow.
00:47:21.929 --> 00:47:23.263
Tara-leigh: it's now 500 groups around the world that meet in
00:47:23.263 --> 00:47:24.865
Homes, in churches, online.
00:47:24.865 --> 00:47:26.366
Sheila: what's it called?
00:47:26.366 --> 00:47:27.734
Tara-leigh: d-group international.
00:47:27.734 --> 00:47:29.069
Sheila: d-group international.
00:47:29.069 --> 00:47:30.404
Tara-leigh: yeah, d-group international.
00:47:30.404 --> 00:47:31.772
And we do our studies in it.
00:47:31.772 --> 00:47:33.106
But every week we tell--so we meet together in homes and
00:47:33.106 --> 00:47:36.009
Churches and online, and we tell people at the start of every
00:47:36.009 --> 00:47:39.279
Session, like, there are gonna be days when you have to miss
00:47:39.279 --> 00:47:41.481
For good reasons, like you've got a doctor's appointment,
00:47:41.481 --> 00:47:43.684
You're out of town, but if your reason is, "i don't feel like it
00:47:43.684 --> 00:47:47.421
Or i'm having a really stressful day," show up, you need extra
00:47:47.421 --> 00:47:51.558
Prayer today.
00:47:51.558 --> 00:47:52.893
We need to be really focused on encouraging you and reminding
00:47:52.893 --> 00:47:55.395
You of the truth of god's word, and you're gonna leave better
00:47:55.395 --> 00:47:57.798
Than you came.
00:47:57.798 --> 00:47:59.366
And that accountability--man, your safe sisters, they give you
00:47:59.366 --> 00:48:03.337
The kind of love that i pray every christian finds in
00:48:03.337 --> 00:48:07.474
Their relationships.
00:48:07.474 --> 00:48:08.842
Sheila: yeah, absolutely.
00:48:08.842 --> 00:48:10.177
And we do it for one another.
00:48:10.177 --> 00:48:11.545
One of us was going through cancer treatment and just felt
00:48:11.545 --> 00:48:14.614
Like, "you know, i just--i don't have anything to share."
00:48:14.614 --> 00:48:17.117
And we're like, "just sit your beautiful self down and let us
00:48:17.117 --> 00:48:20.320
Pray over you."
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:21.922
And that's what jesus prayed for.
00:48:21.922 --> 00:48:23.523
He prayed that we would love one another and that the world would
00:48:23.523 --> 00:48:26.793
Look at the way we love one another and know, "there's gotta
00:48:26.793 --> 00:48:29.896
Be something about this that i don't understand."
00:48:29.896 --> 00:48:32.599
Let me just ask you a very basic question.
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.535
You've been--how many times have you read through the
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Whole bible?
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Tara-leigh: i think i'm on 17 or 18 now.
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Sheila: wow.
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How has your picture of god changed over those readings?
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Tara-leigh: oh, man.
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I just like him so much.
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Sheila: we love you, lord.
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Tara-leigh: i just--like, i mean, i have such an affinity
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For him.
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It's interesting--that i've heard somebody say a long time
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Ago, the closer you get to god the further you feel like you
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Are from him.
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And i think there's some truth in that.
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Like, i see--i feel like the holy spirit identifies things in
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Me that need to change.
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That a person who--if i'm telling, like, "here's what the
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Lord's, like, you know, picking on me about, "picking on me"
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About, with how he's refining me," it would sound so frivolous
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To somebody else.
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But i love that he's that detail-oriented and i love
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Attention to detail.
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And when i see that in the kindness of the lord, like, just
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Directing my steps with everything, that is something
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That i have grown in my trust of him as i've been in his word.
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It's really just such a fine-tuned relationship that i
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Expect to be getting better and better all the time.
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Sheila: one of the things i've noticed in our societal change
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Is i get lots of messages from grandparents who now raising
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Grandchildren because of different circumstances.
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How do we help our kids love god's word?
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Tara-leigh: oh, such a great question.
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I have no children, so i can't speak as a parent, but i can
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Tell you what i've observed in my friends who have parents or
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Who have children who love the lord and what i hear from people
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Who do "the bible recap."
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So the first 5 years of "the bible recap," all we had was
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This one version that was made for people who are basically 12
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And up, and kids were listening to it.
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I remember seeing when i was reading the apple podcast
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Reviews, one of them was a boy who was in 5th grade and he was
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Like, "i never thought i could understand the bible until now.
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You've changed my life," and i'm like--
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Sheila: great.
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That's awesome.
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Tara-leigh: incredible.
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But i was just thinking, like, "you're 10 years old.
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Like, you--have changed your life, like?"
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But it just kinda made me chuckle.
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Yeah, exactly. yeah.
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But see, i was seeing, like, this is wild that this is--this
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5th grader has read through the whole bible.
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What would my life be if i had read through the whole bible at
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Age 10, you know?
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If i had started learning to look for god and reading
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Scripture rightly at that age.
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And so i was blown away by that.
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And i started talking to my team and we started talking about,
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"could we make this available for children?"
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And so we have a couple of books that are for children.
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We now have free resources for children, free audio podcast of
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Tbr kids, and we have tbr kids in our youtube channel, and we
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Are developing a whole line of books for children.
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And really i think the key is teaching your children to look
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For god.
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Sheila: it's great.
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I love that.
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Tara-leigh: i think there's an importance to teaching your
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Children to be obedient and to be disciplined children.
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That is very important as well, but not at the expense of them
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Being afraid of god.
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So not, "oh, don't lie.
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You know god gets mad at you when you lie."
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Presenting god rightly and teaching them to look for god
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And teaching them to delight in god.
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And it's just my--i love meeting little kids out who have read
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The bible with me.
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And they'll come up and they'll say, "hey, bible readers."
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Like, which is how i open every episode, and it's adorable.
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And so i love that opportunity to get kids in the word.
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Sheila: how do people connect with you, tara-leigh?
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What--how do we connect with you?
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Tara-leigh: i would say the best place is
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Thebiblerecap.com, thebiblerecap.com.
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Also on instagram, thebiblerecap.
00:52:22.229 --> 00:52:25.298
And you'll find all the other links to d-group international,
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To tara-leigh cobble.
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All those are there, but they're just harder to spell, so.
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Sheila: i just wonder, would you just take a moment and just pray
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For our audience?
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Tara-leigh: i would love that so much.
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Sheila: i would love that.
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Tara-leigh: father, we come to you in the name of your son,
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Jesus, who made it possible for me to speak to you right now
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Because of his finished work on the cross.
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And, father, i ask that every person who's listening or
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Watching right now, i just--i pray a blessing over them.
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I pray that you would show up in ways that are janice specific,
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And denise specific, and shanae specific, and robert specific;
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That you would show up in their world today to meet them exactly
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Where they are, to show them your great love for them.
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And if they are feeling inclined at all to read your word, i just
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Pray that as they open the pages of your word that you would just
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Bold-font your love and your character to them as they read.
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Be with them, guide them, father.
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We thank you that we have your word, we thank you that you want
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To be known, and we thank you that your word helps us
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Know you.
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We love you too.
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Amen.
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Sheila: amen.
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I just--i want--i just wanna thank you because, you know, we
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Don't see the--all the behind the scenes, the hour after hour
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After hour that you pour into this, but we are the recipients
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And our lives are richer.
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And the thing i love, even though a lot of people know your
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Name and your podcast it was downloaded by, you know, half
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The continents in the world, you talk about jesus.
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It's all about talking about god the father, jesus our savior,
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And the holy spirit.
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Audience, help me thank tara-leigh.
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[audience applauding]
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And for those of you watching at home, just remember that we
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Love you.
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It's our absolute commitment, has been for over 40 years here
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At tbn, to reach those who don't know jesus, to teach the word of
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God to those who've come into relationship with him, to learn
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How to live differently in a culture that is becoming
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Increasingly hostile.
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We get to be jesus's boots on the ground.
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We get to be the ones that bring the good news.
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We get to be the light in the darkness.
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And i love when peter says: always be ready to give a reason
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For the hope that is within you, which says to me, you and i
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Should be living lives that raise questions.
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You're walking through chemotherapy and you seem to
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Have peace.
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Where did that come from?
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You just went through a bankruptcy and you seem to be
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At peace.
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Where did that come from?
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And then we get to tell them that came from the one and only
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Savior of the world jesus christ.
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So on behalf of matt and laurie, we love you, we'll see you
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Next time.
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♪♪♪
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Tara-Leigh Cobble: Finding Peace in the Chaos | Praise

April 30, 2026 | 55:45

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