Tim Dunn: Hope That Carries You Through | Praise

November 12, 2025 | 55:28

Embracing the power of reframing perspectives, Tim Dunn shares insights from his free Yellow Balloons devotional, promoting a life of faith and transformation. Through the lens of servant leadership, Tim explains the art of setting aside personal narratives to build shared understanding, offering a pathway to unity and growth in relationships. With wisdom belying his age, Tim's journey exemplifies the transformative impact of choosing truth, faith, and love in every aspect of life.

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Praise | Tim Dunn: Hope That Carries You Through | Praise | November 12, 2025
  • Coming up tonight on praise...
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  • Faith means i will choose to act on what you're telling me,
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  • That that's actually in my best interest.
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  • Jesus said, if you will not take up your cross and follow
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  • Me, you can't be my disciple.
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  • Now that's the same thing as a professor saying, if you won't
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  • Come to my class and do my
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  • Homework, you can't be my students.
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  • We can't learn the lessons jesus has to teach us if we
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  • Won't do what he asks us to do.
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  • Okay, we are in dallas, texas, and the weirdest thing has
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  • Happened today.
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  • We have a west texas guy with us, tim dunn.
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  • Tim, um, we've known each other for a while now, and we got
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  • Together, uh, largely because i'm a fan of a book that you
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  • Have contributed to, which is, uh, called yellow balloons.
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  • This is a daily devotional.
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  • Okay. i get it every weekday into my phone.
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  • I oftentimes forward them to you or comment on them.
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  • Yellow balloon devotional okay, that's what we're doing.
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  • But we actually got to know each other because of just
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  • Plain old business.
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  • Yeah. um, we were building a studio and you're kind of-- if
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  • You're in west texas, you either are in the tumbleweed
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  • Business or you're in the oil business.
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  • And so, tim, you're in the oil business.
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  • Uh, you're kind of doing a lot of that stuff, but help me kind
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  • Of introduce the subject.
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  • Okay. so today our viewers,
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  • I think, are going to hear the word perspective or true
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  • Perspective quite a bit. that's right.
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  • There's a term you use called reframing that i love.
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  • Jesus did it a lot. yeah.
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  • Okay. so you do business.
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  • You're a christian guy. you're in a lot of stuff.
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  • And uh, but you you take some
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  • Of your time to do this book, okay?
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  • Some of your time is involved in this.
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  • And we love this. and i love this devotional.
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  • I do it every weekday.
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  • What are we actually talking about today?
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  • Help me. help me explain it.
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  • Well, first let me just say everybody can get a free email
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  • Of this devotional by
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  • Just going to yellowballoons.net.
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  • Got it.
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  • Okay. you can think of a big bouquet of balloons in a net.
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  • Yellowballoons.net
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  • And just go and sign up for free.
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  • This is a free resource we give to people
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  • Because the power that this, this idea has had in our lives.
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  • And it's the idea that we get to choose a perspective.
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  • Okay. there's really only three things that you control as a
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  • Human who you trust, what you
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  • Do, and the perspective you choose.
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  • That's really it.
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  • And whether you choose a perspective that's true or not
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  • Has immense implications on how your life goes.
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  • And most of us, i would say, me included, are kind of oblivious
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  • That we're even choosing a perspective, much less spending
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  • Time and effort to choose one deliberately and intentionally
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  • And making sure it's true.
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  • But if you'll think about it, a lot of the bible is admonishing
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  • Us to choose perspectives that are true, and that's a big part
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  • Of the spiritual walk.
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  • So what this is, is a daily reminder that, hey, you know
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  • What you control today?
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  • What you think. your perspective.
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  • You know what you ought to do? choose one that's true.
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  • And your life will go better.
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  • Yeah, because that's actually transforming your life.
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  • Yes. it's transformation. so what i--
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  • Think of romans 12.
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  • Yeah, be transformed by
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  • The renewing of your mind,
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  • Which is choosing perspective perspectives that are true
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  • Instead of perspectives that are false.
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  • Okay. past, present.
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  • Future. comment on that,
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  • Because we sometimes frame or we choose a
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  • Perspective on past, present, future
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  • That's wrong. well, i would say sometimes
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  • Is most of the time. left to ourselves,
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  • Left to ourselves without, transforming power of the
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  • Spirit and without choosing to follow the spirit, what we will
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  • Do is we will try to control the past with regret.
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  • Mhm. we'll try to punish people by bitterness.
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  • Okay. how's that going for you?
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  • Right? it doesn't work.
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  • It's not real.
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  • It's an imaginary control. we can't control
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  • The past with regret. doesn't keep us from trying.
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  • We try to control the present with future.
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  • The galatians five would call it like fits of rage.
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  • Mm. man, i yell at that tv and that referee, he's going to
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  • Change his mind. you know, it never works.
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  • Okay, so that's not real either.
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  • But it doesn't keep us from trying.
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  • And then the big one is, i think we'll try to control the
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  • Future with anxiety, with worry
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  • Because we know if we'll get
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  • Enough ulcers, it'll change the future.
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  • Right. mhm. that doesn't work either.
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  • So you can't control the past with regret.
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  • You can't control the present with
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  • Anger. and you can't control the future with anxiety.
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  • But you can
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  • Control who you trust, and you can control how you look at
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  • Things, your perspective, your mental models, the framing that
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  • You have in your own mind about what's real and what isn't real,
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  • About what's true and what isn't true about how things are.
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  • And you can control what you do, the actions you take, and
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  • The actions you take, even
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  • Though you can't control the future,
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  • The bible promises that the actions you take now are making
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  • Huge impact on the future
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  • Even though god's in control of the future. that's one of the
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  • Great mysteries of the bible.
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  • I've heard it said, someone wise long ago said, when you're
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  • Born, you look like your mama and your daddy.
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  • When you're old, you look like your choices.
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  • And so ultimately, one of the things that-- business,
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  • A business meeting brought us together.
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  • That's how we met. right.
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  • Then we found that we had more things in common.
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  • Then i started getting to know you because of your yellow
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  • Balloons devotional that i get.
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  • Give us-- before we get into really the meat of our
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  • Conversation, which is a framing,
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  • And i want you to explain what that is and how this helps
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  • People frame their life and perspective.
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  • If you're going to choose a perspective, why don't you
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  • Choose a true one? okay, right.
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  • But this is born somewhat out of a very unique story in your
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  • Own personal life.
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  • Give us the background to this devotional.
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  • The name of the devotional-- and i have a book also.
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  • You can get a free copy on yellowballoons.net as well
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  • That goes through, uh, the how to choose a true perspective in
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  • The valleys of life, the plains
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  • Of life, and the mountains of life.
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  • The valley is, interestingly enough, the valleys are
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  • Actually kind of the easiest place because they force you to
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  • Choose a perspective. wow.
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  • The plains of life, the everyday monotony,
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  • You know, of life, we say monotony,
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  • It's actually not.
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  • It's every day's packed with opportunity, but you
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  • Get numb to it.
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  • And so when you start choosing a perspective that
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  • This is the same old thing, you're actually getting lulled
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  • Into complacency about incredible opportunities in
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  • Front of you all the time.
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  • Instead of saying, this is the day the lord has made.
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  • Let us rejoice and be glad.
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  • This is i've got one more day i get to live and i
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  • Get to make good choices.
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  • And this is shaping eternity.
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  • That's the true perspective.
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  • The one that lulls us is, well, i've got to go to work again
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  • Today, and it's going to be the same as all the other days.
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  • Uh, and then the the mountains of life are actually
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  • The greatest trial, i think.
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  • Uh, surviving success is something that very few
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  • People can do i would say.
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  • My goodness.
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  • So that's what yellow balloons is about, the book.
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  • The devotional is about choosing a perspective
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  • That's true every day.
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  • So their companions in that respect.
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  • But the name came from our granddaughter, mariah.
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  • So we have six children and 20 grandchildren.
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  • And our little mariah, um, we lost to, uh, tragic death.
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  • Just she was in her crib and
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  • Died, and there's no medical explanation.
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  • Our best guess is that she had a fever induced seizure.
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  • She had been starting to have
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  • Those, and just her heart stopped.
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  • Uh, my, uh, daughter-- they were actually living in our
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  • House at the time, so this was very, very, uh,
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  • You know, personal to us.
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  • Uh, they'd been there for about six months because they were
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  • Remodeling the house, and so they were just living with us
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  • Till they got that done.
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  • There were just a couple of weeks from from moving out of
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  • Our house into their own.
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  • And, uh, little mariah, she was 20 months old, and her
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  • Heart just stopped. they got to her.
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  • They got her breathing again.
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  • But we found out later that when infant's heart stops,
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  • About 90% of the time, they can't restart it.
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  • It's different with adults, so obviously that was an
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  • Incredible tragedy.
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  • Um, you know, losing any loved one is, is tragic.
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  • But, you know, that was that was-- the hole's always there.
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  • Well, her favorite color was yellow.
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  • And so we released yellow
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  • Balloons at her memorial service.
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  • We do it every year for her going home day, we call it,
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  • And we take pictures and everybody releases a balloon.
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  • And we-- because we don't want to forget.
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  • Yeah. we don't want to forget mariah.
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  • So that's where the name comes from.
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  • So somewhat out of staying connected to that heartache
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  • Comes this choice you've made to help others.
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  • Well, so one of the big things that we learned in
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  • The aftermath, was how to grieve. one of the
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  • First things i did
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  • I grabbed our pastor and i said, i understand that when
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  • This happens, you know, a lot of times people get divorced.
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  • And he said, well, here's the deal.
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  • Um, when you hurt, you tend to want to stop hurting.
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  • And so the way it works is today, i'm grieving
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  • And you feel fine. you don't want to hurt.
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  • So you move away a step, and tomorrow you're grieving.
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  • And i feel fine,
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  • And so i move away a step.
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  • And pretty soon you just fall apart.
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  • He said the answer is to step into the grief.
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  • If you're grieving, i'll grieve with you.
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  • And you should think of it like an investment in the
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  • Relationships you still have. wow.
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  • And you'll you'll hurt more and heal faster.
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  • And so for me, that was like,
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  • Okay, that makes a ton of sense.
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  • And that's what i did.
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  • Every time i saw somebody in our town, you know, i knew i
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  • Was going to have to talk about it.
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  • Didn't want to, but i just thought to myself, this is an
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  • Investment in this person. hmm.
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  • And so that was a perspective.
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  • And so when you have tragedy
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  • Happen, you have to choose a perspective.
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  • It's imposed upon you.
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  • Uh, and you can choose one that
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  • Leads to life, which is connection,
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  • Connection with others,
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  • Connection with your design, connection with god.
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  • That's the biblical definition of life.
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  • Or it can lead to death, which is disconnection.
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  • Disconnection from your design,
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  • Disconnection from other people.
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  • What did that look like, though, when you did encounter
  • 00:11:51.033 --> 00:11:54.236
  • That, when you didn't want to
  • 00:11:54.236 --> 00:11:55.237
  • Talk about with reframing the morning?
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  • Well, i was just reframing it in my mind that
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  • I'm investing in you.
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  • You ask about this.
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  • I'm now investing in you.
  • 00:12:06.649 --> 00:12:08.818
  • And that gave me the i would say, um, motivation to say i
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  • Still have this relationship.
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  • I'll invest in this relationship.
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  • Got it. okay.
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  • You know, the tendency, laurie and i, um, lost a grandson.
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  • Given birth,
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  • Had a heartbeat for a short period of time,
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  • Was born in israel at hadassah hospital.
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  • Wow. and, uh, didn't make it.
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  • And what happens is, when people want to kind of-- an
  • 00:12:35.311 --> 00:12:42.418
  • Invisible bubble goes around you, and people don't
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  • Really want to,
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  • Let's say, interfere in this thing.
  • 00:12:49.425 --> 00:12:52.695
  • And there's a sense of isolation that comes just
  • 00:12:52.695 --> 00:12:55.764
  • Naturally and nobody knows what to do properly.
  • 00:12:55.764 --> 00:13:00.135
  • You know, let's say and but what you're talking about is
  • 00:13:00.135 --> 00:13:04.607
  • Reframing even a grief situation and invest into
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  • The life of somebody
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  • Because they're still here.
  • 00:13:11.280 --> 00:13:13.282
  • They're still here. and that's honoring mariah.
  • 00:13:13.282 --> 00:13:16.252
  • And it's also helping me heal.
  • 00:13:16.252 --> 00:13:17.753
  • It's kind of like exercise.
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  • Some people enjoy exercise.
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  • I don't.
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  • It hurts, you know, it's painful.
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  • She loves it. not.
  • 00:13:25.094 --> 00:13:26.462
  • Yeah. my wife is that way.
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  • She actually likes it. i don't.
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  • I'm joking. she hates it.
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  • Oh, she hates it with you.
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  • My wife really likes it.
  • 00:13:34.003 --> 00:13:35.404
  • But, um, not me.
  • 00:13:35.404 --> 00:13:37.573
  • I just want it to be over with.
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  • But i wanted my body to keep working.
  • 00:13:39.141 --> 00:13:42.077
  • Sure, sure.
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  • So i do as an investment.
  • 00:13:42.745 --> 00:13:44.513
  • And a lot of things in life are that way.
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  • You do it because it's--
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  • It's good for you.
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  • Yeah. that's right.
  • 00:13:48.384 --> 00:13:49.585
  • Yeah. and then of course,
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  • Afterward i'm really glad i did it.
  • 00:13:50.853 --> 00:13:53.422
  • And that's the way this, this grieving thing was.
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  • Hurt deeper. heal faster.
  • 00:13:56.692 --> 00:13:59.528
  • Yeah. hurt faster, heal faster
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  • I think would be, uh, the way i might say it.
  • 00:14:01.230 --> 00:14:03.799
  • And so that's what i learned out of that.
  • 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:06.168
  • But i also, um,
  • 00:14:06.168 --> 00:14:09.805
  • It gave me a framework to try to explain what i had been
  • 00:14:09.805 --> 00:14:13.609
  • Coming to understand.
  • 00:14:13.609 --> 00:14:15.177
  • You know, how you learn something intuitively.
  • 00:14:15.177 --> 00:14:18.380
  • And then many times it takes a long time before you can
  • 00:14:18.380 --> 00:14:21.550
  • Actually articulate what it is you've learned.
  • 00:14:21.550 --> 00:14:24.486
  • And it took me a long time to, to be able to say
  • 00:14:24.486 --> 00:14:28.724
  • These, you know, the three things that you can control
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  • And that you can choose a perspective.
  • 00:14:32.127 --> 00:14:34.129
  • But then once, i'm able to say that as a, um, something
  • 00:14:34.129 --> 00:14:39.535
  • Very intentional, you see it everywhere. take galatians 5,
  • 00:14:39.535 --> 00:14:42.638
  • It was for freedom that christ set you free.
  • 00:14:42.638 --> 00:14:45.474
  • Well, freedom to do what?
  • 00:14:45.474 --> 00:14:47.209
  • Well, freedom is i get to make my own choices.
  • 00:14:47.209 --> 00:14:50.379
  • If you're not free, somebody else makes choices for you.
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  • Mhm.
  • 00:14:53.115 --> 00:14:54.216
  • Well, it's for freedom, that christ set you free.
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  • Next line, only do not use your freedom as an opportunity
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  • For the flesh but in love serve one another.
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  • Because then you fulfill the law, which is love your
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  • Neighbor as yourself.
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  • But if you go to the flesh, you should watch out because you're
  • 00:15:06.562 --> 00:15:09.531
  • Going to get biting and
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  • Devouring, maybe consuming one another.
  • 00:15:10.466 --> 00:15:12.868
  • Well, okay, there you go.
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  • I can walk in the spirit,
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  • Sow into other people and i get connection.
  • 00:15:17.373 --> 00:15:21.176
  • I can exploit, extract and i get biting and devouring.
  • 00:15:21.176 --> 00:15:27.116
  • Guess what? they'll try to exploit and extract back.
  • 00:15:27.116 --> 00:15:29.985
  • Right. and that's two ways to live.
  • 00:15:29.985 --> 00:15:32.988
  • And it's just all through the scripture that way.
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  • You probably missed your calling.
  • 00:15:35.758 --> 00:15:40.095
  • You should have been a pastor.
  • 00:15:40.095 --> 00:15:41.563
  • But the problem is you're a good businessman.
  • 00:15:41.563 --> 00:15:43.565
  • So i'm going to leave you safely in the business world
  • 00:15:43.565 --> 00:15:47.136
  • And let you just come teach and
  • 00:15:47.136 --> 00:15:48.670
  • Do some things every once in a while. okay.
  • 00:15:48.670 --> 00:15:50.572
  • Well, so let me just challenge that.
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  • The word pastor comes from the latin word for shepherd.
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  • Shepherd. okay.
  • 00:15:57.212 --> 00:16:00.015
  • Everybody's a shepherd. there you go.
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  • Some people shepherd the church. yeah.
  • 00:16:02.084 --> 00:16:04.620
  • Got it.
  • 00:16:04.620 --> 00:16:05.487
  • But everybody shepherds something.
  • 00:16:05.487 --> 00:16:06.622
  • Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:16:06.622 --> 00:16:07.723
  • And if you're a business leader, you're a shepherd
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  • Of that company.
  • 00:16:09.591 --> 00:16:10.859
  • So you are going to be accountable to god for
  • 00:16:10.859 --> 00:16:13.062
  • How you shepherd it.
  • 00:16:13.062 --> 00:16:14.696
  • You shepherd
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  • Tumbleweeds and the oil that are underneath the tumbleweeds,
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  • That's what--
  • 00:16:21.804 --> 00:16:22.838
  • So, uh, crown quest is your company.
  • 00:16:22.838 --> 00:16:28.343
  • Uh, you you are in the paper every once in a while,
  • 00:16:28.343 --> 00:16:31.613
  • Tim. i don't know if you ever know that.
  • 00:16:31.613 --> 00:16:33.115
  • Occasionally you end up in a newspaper, and i usually am the
  • 00:16:33.115 --> 00:16:36.018
  • One that snaps it and sends it to him and says, you're famous.
  • 00:16:36.018 --> 00:16:39.354
  • Um, but you have been at
  • 00:16:39.354 --> 00:16:42.558
  • The at pretty high levels in business.
  • 00:16:42.558 --> 00:16:45.194
  • Okay. um, the oil business is a big piece of what you do.
  • 00:16:45.194 --> 00:16:49.898
  • You're really in investment.
  • 00:16:49.898 --> 00:16:51.133
  • And by the way, in just the first few minutes of our
  • 00:16:51.133 --> 00:16:54.369
  • Program, you said the word investment a lot.
  • 00:16:54.369 --> 00:16:57.139
  • So your natural tendency to be a pastor inside
  • 00:16:57.139 --> 00:17:03.445
  • Of the vocation of what you are, which is a businessman,
  • 00:17:03.445 --> 00:17:06.882
  • Is super interesting.
  • 00:17:06.882 --> 00:17:08.784
  • You've danced around it.
  • 00:17:08.784 --> 00:17:10.986
  • You've given us some of the things, but start with a
  • 00:17:10.986 --> 00:17:13.689
  • Little bit of a lesson
  • 00:17:13.689 --> 00:17:14.990
  • Because when i understood how good you were at this, i asked
  • 00:17:14.990 --> 00:17:20.362
  • You to do a seminar to the tbn staff.
  • 00:17:20.362 --> 00:17:23.799
  • You agreed to that.
  • 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:25.734
  • We probably had 150 people
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  • Uh, you know, on a big, giant zoom thing.
  • 00:17:28.003 --> 00:17:31.373
  • And you walked us through this framing, and you, you've
  • 00:17:31.373 --> 00:17:37.146
  • Touched on it on our own personal choices.
  • 00:17:37.146 --> 00:17:39.615
  • But there's a way to frame big things.
  • 00:17:39.615 --> 00:17:42.818
  • There's a way to frame a lot of things.
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  • Why don't you explain what i mean by framing and then kind
  • 00:17:44.653 --> 00:17:48.457
  • Of move on and let's get into some of the deeper waters that
  • 00:17:48.457 --> 00:17:52.127
  • We want to jump into.
  • 00:17:52.127 --> 00:17:53.295
  • So framing is how an issue is framed.
  • 00:17:53.295 --> 00:17:56.665
  • You know, you frame a picture, it presents the picture right?
  • 00:17:56.665 --> 00:18:00.669
  • The frame, black frame,
  • 00:18:00.669 --> 00:18:02.070
  • Gold frame, presents the picture in a different way.
  • 00:18:02.070 --> 00:18:05.240
  • And so this is how you present an issue.
  • 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.343
  • And generally speaking, um, i like to say the bible is
  • 00:18:08.343 --> 00:18:11.880
  • Mainly about politics. really?
  • 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.316
  • That's a provocative statement, right?
  • 00:18:14.316 --> 00:18:16.885
  • But if you'll think about it, what is politics?
  • 00:18:16.885 --> 00:18:19.488
  • It's people engaging with one another in some kind
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  • Of organized way. okay.
  • 00:18:21.523 --> 00:18:24.593
  • So that's simple.
  • 00:18:24.593 --> 00:18:26.728
  • That's reframing.
  • 00:18:26.728 --> 00:18:27.696
  • Reframing.
  • 00:18:27.696 --> 00:18:28.330
  • So that is reframing.
  • 00:18:28.330 --> 00:18:30.165
  • That is reframing, the word.
  • 00:18:30.165 --> 00:18:32.067
  • We usually think of politics in a negative light.
  • 00:18:32.067 --> 00:18:35.070
  • But that's because of the flesh and the fall.
  • 00:18:35.070 --> 00:18:37.739
  • We interact with one another in an organized manner,
  • 00:18:37.739 --> 00:18:40.742
  • Counterproductively too often. screaming at each other.
  • 00:18:40.742 --> 00:18:44.012
  • But a big part of what the christian walk is supposed to
  • 00:18:44.012 --> 00:18:47.482
  • Be is redeeming our interactions with each other
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  • Where we're being mutually beneficial, which
  • 00:18:50.185 --> 00:18:52.988
  • Paul calls love.
  • 00:18:52.988 --> 00:18:55.057
  • Right? and so, uh, so that's what framing is.
  • 00:18:55.057 --> 00:18:58.660
  • And any argument that you have in politics, whether it's
  • 00:18:58.660 --> 00:19:02.598
  • An argument with yourself, you know, with the voices inside
  • 00:19:02.598 --> 00:19:05.400
  • Your head or in your mind, or whether it's an argument with
  • 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:08.971
  • Your family members or whether it's a political argument or
  • 00:19:08.971 --> 00:19:13.742
  • Whether it's a spiritual argument, they'll always be won
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  • And lost by who wins the framing.
  • 00:19:16.311 --> 00:19:19.414
  • So let me just, let me just
  • 00:19:19.414 --> 00:19:20.616
  • Explain with an example. please.
  • 00:19:20.616 --> 00:19:22.317
  • Okay. so the very first, um, spiritual battle that you see
  • 00:19:22.317 --> 00:19:27.155
  • Between satan and god, in this case, god's, um, people is
  • 00:19:27.155 --> 00:19:31.793
  • In the garden. okay, okay.
  • 00:19:31.793 --> 00:19:34.162
  • It's a framing battle.
  • 00:19:34.162 --> 00:19:36.164
  • Okay. so the way god framed it to adam and eve is,
  • 00:19:36.164 --> 00:19:40.736
  • You want life or death?
  • 00:19:40.736 --> 00:19:42.537
  • I like to always boil something down to what is the fundamental
  • 00:19:42.537 --> 00:19:46.541
  • Binary choice that we're making here?
  • 00:19:46.541 --> 00:19:49.544
  • Choose good or evil. yeah.
  • 00:19:49.544 --> 00:19:51.079
  • Choose good or evil.
  • 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:54.916
  • The yes or no, you want human trafficking?
  • 00:19:54.916 --> 00:19:57.286
  • Okay. no.
  • 00:19:57.286 --> 00:19:59.187
  • Choose. choose.
  • 00:19:59.187 --> 00:20:00.155
  • Right? well, if i can frame an issue as,
  • 00:20:00.155 --> 00:20:03.525
  • Do you want human trafficking or not?
  • 00:20:03.525 --> 00:20:05.193
  • I can tell you i'm going to win. mhm.
  • 00:20:05.193 --> 00:20:07.562
  • But if the same issue is framed as
  • 00:20:07.562 --> 00:20:11.133
  • Something completely different, then
  • 00:20:11.133 --> 00:20:14.836
  • Whoever wins that framing is going to win.
  • 00:20:14.836 --> 00:20:17.639
  • How that works.
  • 00:20:17.639 --> 00:20:19.041
  • So god says you want life.
  • 00:20:19.041 --> 00:20:22.210
  • Then just do whatever you want to
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  • Except one thing.
  • 00:20:23.945 --> 00:20:25.914
  • Don't eat of this tree of knowledge of good and evil.
  • 00:20:25.914 --> 00:20:28.784
  • And the day you do that, you'll die.
  • 00:20:28.784 --> 00:20:32.521
  • Okay, so then satan comes along through the serpent and he
  • 00:20:32.521 --> 00:20:36.558
  • Says, uh, the way you always engage a framing battle is you
  • 00:20:36.558 --> 00:20:40.062
  • Never adopt the other person's framing.
  • 00:20:40.062 --> 00:20:42.798
  • You always delegitimize it and raise an alternative framing.
  • 00:20:42.798 --> 00:20:46.568
  • So satan starts the first thing he says-- you remember
  • 00:20:46.568 --> 00:20:49.237
  • What he says? he said, did he really say?
  • 00:20:49.237 --> 00:20:52.240
  • Did god really say?
  • 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:53.442
  • Okay, so he's delegitimizing.
  • 00:20:53.442 --> 00:20:55.610
  • Did god really say that?
  • 00:20:55.610 --> 00:20:57.346
  • And now let's-- well he's--
  • 00:20:57.346 --> 00:20:59.981
  • He said he was going to die. well, you're not going to die.
  • 00:20:59.981 --> 00:21:02.751
  • He just knows--
  • 00:21:02.751 --> 00:21:04.119
  • And now i'm going to reparaphrase this.
  • 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:06.521
  • Okay. he just knows that if you eat of this, you're going to
  • 00:21:06.521 --> 00:21:10.559
  • Have all this knowledge to make better choices.
  • 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.761
  • Don't you want to make good choices?
  • 00:21:12.761 --> 00:21:14.463
  • Wow. he wants you to make good choices.
  • 00:21:14.463 --> 00:21:16.198
  • Don't you want to make good choices?
  • 00:21:16.198 --> 00:21:18.500
  • Don't you want to--
  • 00:21:18.500 --> 00:21:19.534
  • You can be like him and have all this knowledge.
  • 00:21:19.534 --> 00:21:21.570
  • And then you can make great choices like he does.
  • 00:21:21.570 --> 00:21:23.672
  • Don't you want to do that? mm.
  • 00:21:23.672 --> 00:21:25.540
  • Oh, yeah, i guess i do want to do that.
  • 00:21:25.540 --> 00:21:28.076
  • Yeah.
  • 00:21:28.076 --> 00:21:29.277
  • Well, so he framed the death as life and life as death.
  • 00:21:29.277 --> 00:21:34.149
  • He flipped it. flipped it.
  • 00:21:34.149 --> 00:21:36.017
  • When they were already that.
  • 00:21:36.017 --> 00:21:38.019
  • What's that?
  • 00:21:38.019 --> 00:21:38.653
  • They were already
  • 00:21:38.653 --> 00:21:40.055
  • Made in his image and communing with god.
  • 00:21:40.055 --> 00:21:43.191
  • That's right.
  • 00:21:43.191 --> 00:21:44.226
  • Yeah, but he said there's something better.
  • 00:21:44.226 --> 00:21:46.161
  • Yeah. wow.
  • 00:21:46.161 --> 00:21:47.028
  • There's something better.
  • 00:21:47.028 --> 00:21:48.029
  • Well, so that battle is going on inside of
  • 00:21:48.029 --> 00:21:49.865
  • Every one of us every day.
  • 00:21:49.865 --> 00:21:52.067
  • That is the battle.
  • 00:21:52.067 --> 00:21:53.301
  • Are we going to trust that what god says is for our best
  • 00:21:53.301 --> 00:21:56.538
  • Interest, or are we going to find our own way? by the way,
  • 00:21:56.538 --> 00:22:01.076
  • Those three things that we imagine we're controlling the
  • 00:22:01.076 --> 00:22:03.512
  • Past with regret and the
  • 00:22:03.512 --> 00:22:04.646
  • Present with anger and the future with--
  • 00:22:04.646 --> 00:22:07.015
  • That's a little mini illusion that we can
  • 00:22:07.015 --> 00:22:10.118
  • Have our own way.
  • 00:22:10.118 --> 00:22:11.520
  • It's our own little mini tree of knowledge.
  • 00:22:11.520 --> 00:22:14.189
  • Wow.
  • 00:22:14.189 --> 00:22:15.624
  • We're just pretending that we're in control of
  • 00:22:15.624 --> 00:22:17.492
  • Something that we're not.
  • 00:22:17.492 --> 00:22:18.827
  • Okay, so then i'll flip forward to, uh,
  • 00:22:18.827 --> 00:22:22.831
  • Jesus. okay, i'll give you another example of framing.
  • 00:22:22.831 --> 00:22:26.535
  • So the pharisees--
  • 00:22:26.535 --> 00:22:29.137
  • I think it says the scribes and the priests.
  • 00:22:29.137 --> 00:22:33.041
  • This is luke 20, the scribes and the priests, uh, say, we
  • 00:22:33.041 --> 00:22:37.546
  • Got to get rid of this guy, okay.
  • 00:22:37.546 --> 00:22:39.748
  • And so they, they, they do all this again, what we would call
  • 00:22:39.748 --> 00:22:43.151
  • In modern politics, uh, opposition research.
  • 00:22:43.151 --> 00:22:46.421
  • You see, once you start seeing the bible through these eyes,
  • 00:22:46.421 --> 00:22:50.492
  • Not nothing much changes over human history.
  • 00:22:50.492 --> 00:22:53.862
  • Wow. just the speed of change
  • 00:22:53.862 --> 00:22:56.431
  • Maybe. wow.
  • 00:22:56.431 --> 00:22:58.600
  • And they come up with this framing.
  • 00:22:58.600 --> 00:23:00.268
  • Okay. and their goal, it says in the text is that
  • 00:23:00.268 --> 00:23:04.473
  • They may, may turn him over to the governor.
  • 00:23:04.473 --> 00:23:07.876
  • Okay. now, what that means is they want him crucified because
  • 00:23:07.876 --> 00:23:11.480
  • They had the power to do everything else themselves.
  • 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:14.749
  • So they're looking for something to get him crucified.
  • 00:23:14.749 --> 00:23:18.019
  • So they have somebody stand up in the campaign.
  • 00:23:18.019 --> 00:23:21.523
  • I'm now going to paraphrase or recast what he said.
  • 00:23:21.523 --> 00:23:26.628
  • Analogize. analogize.
  • 00:23:26.628 --> 00:23:28.296
  • So he says, hey, jesus, we're all friends here.
  • 00:23:28.296 --> 00:23:32.133
  • This is totally safe.
  • 00:23:32.133 --> 00:23:34.202
  • You're completely safe.
  • 00:23:34.202 --> 00:23:35.537
  • Totally among friends here.
  • 00:23:35.537 --> 00:23:37.506
  • Should we pay taxes to rome?
  • 00:23:37.506 --> 00:23:39.841
  • Now, what he actually says is we know you speak the truth,
  • 00:23:39.841 --> 00:23:42.277
  • Blah blah, blah, but i think that butter-up is there to get
  • 00:23:42.277 --> 00:23:45.480
  • His guard down because they want him to say no, we should
  • 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.951
  • Not pay taxes to rome because
  • 00:23:49.951 --> 00:23:51.853
  • That's what everybody wanted to hear.
  • 00:23:51.853 --> 00:23:54.489
  • Now think about that framing,
  • 00:23:54.489 --> 00:23:55.690
  • Should we pay taxes to rome or not?
  • 00:23:55.690 --> 00:23:57.759
  • If he engages with that in any way at all, he loses.
  • 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:01.796
  • If he says no,
  • 00:24:01.796 --> 00:24:04.099
  • He goes to the governor to be
  • 00:24:04.099 --> 00:24:05.734
  • Crucified as an insurrectionist.
  • 00:24:05.734 --> 00:24:08.169
  • Right? because he's a popular
  • 00:24:08.169 --> 00:24:09.604
  • Figure saying you shouldn't pay taxes.
  • 00:24:09.604 --> 00:24:11.172
  • They got him.
  • 00:24:11.172 --> 00:24:13.508
  • If he says yes, he loses the people.
  • 00:24:13.508 --> 00:24:15.810
  • The only reason they weren't killing him is because of his
  • 00:24:15.810 --> 00:24:18.246
  • Popularity with the people.
  • 00:24:18.246 --> 00:24:20.015
  • They wanted him to say no, but at least if he says yes, they
  • 00:24:20.015 --> 00:24:24.252
  • After time can get him.
  • 00:24:24.252 --> 00:24:25.654
  • Yeah. okay.
  • 00:24:25.654 --> 00:24:26.655
  • And great framing is that way in politics.
  • 00:24:26.655 --> 00:24:29.090
  • No matter what you say, i'm going to win.
  • 00:24:29.090 --> 00:24:31.192
  • Mhm.
  • 00:24:31.192 --> 00:24:33.495
  • And it says jesus perceived their craftiness.
  • 00:24:33.495 --> 00:24:38.133
  • Wow. what does that mean?
  • 00:24:38.133 --> 00:24:41.403
  • It means he saw through their framing and was better at it
  • 00:24:41.403 --> 00:24:45.140
  • Than they were. mhm.
  • 00:24:45.140 --> 00:24:46.675
  • That's what that means.
  • 00:24:46.675 --> 00:24:48.209
  • He perceived their craftiness.
  • 00:24:48.209 --> 00:24:49.511
  • That greek word is [speaks greek].
  • 00:24:49.511 --> 00:24:52.414
  • And [speaks greek] is the same word.
  • 00:24:52.414 --> 00:24:54.215
  • It says that, uh, that the
  • 00:24:54.215 --> 00:24:57.118
  • Serpent deceived eve by his craftiness.
  • 00:24:57.118 --> 00:24:59.955
  • Wow.
  • 00:24:59.955 --> 00:25:00.922
  • So jesus says, be wise as a serpent, he's
  • 00:25:00.922 --> 00:25:04.993
  • Saying, know how to frame things.
  • 00:25:04.993 --> 00:25:07.162
  • Be able to do this, this skill, to be able to frame things in a
  • 00:25:07.162 --> 00:25:11.733
  • Way that you can beat people that have evil intent, but you
  • 00:25:11.733 --> 00:25:15.103
  • Don't have evil intent.
  • 00:25:15.103 --> 00:25:16.404
  • Be innocent as doves. mm.
  • 00:25:16.404 --> 00:25:18.907
  • So jesus perceived their craftiness, and he starts off
  • 00:25:18.907 --> 00:25:22.177
  • By delegitimizing.
  • 00:25:22.177 --> 00:25:24.279
  • He says, why do you test me?
  • 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:28.617
  • That's not a legitimate question.
  • 00:25:28.617 --> 00:25:30.418
  • Mhm.
  • 00:25:30.418 --> 00:25:31.620
  • And then he does something very interesting.
  • 00:25:31.620 --> 00:25:33.455
  • He says show me a coin
  • 00:25:33.455 --> 00:25:36.558
  • Whose picture is on it?
  • 00:25:36.558 --> 00:25:37.859
  • Now, i love this because if you if you fast forward to earlier
  • 00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:42.030
  • In the chapter, he's having this engagement with the
  • 00:25:42.030 --> 00:25:47.035
  • Pharisees over john the baptist.
  • 00:25:47.035 --> 00:25:49.771
  • They come and say, well, whose
  • 00:25:49.771 --> 00:25:51.039
  • Authority do you do all this by?
  • 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:53.308
  • And he says, well, let me ask you a question.
  • 00:25:53.308 --> 00:25:56.311
  • Uh, whose authority was john the baptist?
  • 00:25:56.311 --> 00:25:58.680
  • So they go huddle and they say, well, if we say
  • 00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:03.785
  • If we say he's a prophet, then he's going to say, well, then
  • 00:26:03.785 --> 00:26:06.721
  • Why didn't you believe him?
  • 00:26:06.721 --> 00:26:08.490
  • Yeah. and if we say he's a just a man, the people of stone us.
  • 00:26:08.490 --> 00:26:13.361
  • So, see, they're having a framing.
  • 00:26:13.361 --> 00:26:14.963
  • They're having a framing consultation.
  • 00:26:14.963 --> 00:26:16.965
  • Mhm.
  • 00:26:16.965 --> 00:26:17.999
  • And so they come back and say we don't know.
  • 00:26:17.999 --> 00:26:20.068
  • And he said well, then i'm not going to answer your question.
  • 00:26:20.068 --> 00:26:22.904
  • Okay. so now he says whose picture is on this.
  • 00:26:22.904 --> 00:26:26.608
  • He's going to make them answer a question.
  • 00:26:26.608 --> 00:26:29.277
  • There it is.
  • 00:26:29.277 --> 00:26:30.712
  • Because if they say we don't know again, then they're idiots.
  • 00:26:30.712 --> 00:26:34.916
  • Right. that's right.
  • 00:26:34.916 --> 00:26:36.551
  • They say caesar and then he says, well, then render unto
  • 00:26:36.551 --> 00:26:39.754
  • Caesar what caesar's, and unto god what's god's.
  • 00:26:39.754 --> 00:26:42.657
  • And i think the deeper framing-- and the deeper the framing is,
  • 00:26:42.657 --> 00:26:46.661
  • The more powerful it is. if it's presumed and it's driving
  • 00:26:46.661 --> 00:26:50.765
  • Everything, it's like an iceberg, you know?
  • 00:26:50.765 --> 00:26:53.134
  • And, um, he said-- i think what he's saying is, can you tell
  • 00:26:53.134 --> 00:26:58.139
  • The difference between the kingdom of god
  • 00:26:58.139 --> 00:26:59.841
  • And the kingdom of man?
  • 00:26:59.841 --> 00:27:01.976
  • And really, the answer was no. they couldn't.
  • 00:27:01.976 --> 00:27:04.245
  • Wow. and you can tell that because like in john 11 it
  • 00:27:04.245 --> 00:27:08.349
  • Says-- you know, i think it's one of the funniest things in
  • 00:27:08.349 --> 00:27:12.153
  • The bible, even though it's tragic.
  • 00:27:12.153 --> 00:27:16.891
  • Jesus had just raised lazarus from the dead, and the high
  • 00:27:16.891 --> 00:27:20.895
  • Priest and the pharisees all get together and they say, if
  • 00:27:20.895 --> 00:27:24.632
  • He keeps doing stuff like this,
  • 00:27:24.632 --> 00:27:26.067
  • Everybody's going to believe him.
  • 00:27:26.067 --> 00:27:28.536
  • Like, you think? he's raising people from the dead.
  • 00:27:28.536 --> 00:27:32.140
  • Maybe you should reconsider, you know, is this--
  • 00:27:32.140 --> 00:27:35.710
  • Hello? is this thought entering your mind?
  • 00:27:35.710 --> 00:27:38.179
  • But it didn't even.
  • 00:27:38.179 --> 00:27:39.280
  • And they say we've got to stop him
  • 00:27:39.280 --> 00:27:42.751
  • That we can preserve our place and our nation.
  • 00:27:42.751 --> 00:27:46.821
  • Wow.
  • 00:27:46.821 --> 00:27:48.123
  • Okay. so they couldn't tell the difference between the kingdom
  • 00:27:48.123 --> 00:27:51.526
  • Of god and-- when the kingdom of god slapped them in the face.
  • 00:27:51.526 --> 00:27:55.196
  • Wow. lazarus is raised from the dead.
  • 00:27:55.196 --> 00:27:58.566
  • Yeah. they can't see it.
  • 00:27:58.566 --> 00:28:00.702
  • So i think i think that was the
  • 00:28:00.702 --> 00:28:02.070
  • Deeper framing that he hit them with.
  • 00:28:02.070 --> 00:28:03.705
  • And then it says they were so amazed that they just gave up
  • 00:28:03.705 --> 00:28:07.408
  • With framing wars.
  • 00:28:07.408 --> 00:28:09.410
  • Okay. they got to try something else.
  • 00:28:09.410 --> 00:28:11.479
  • I love that.
  • 00:28:11.479 --> 00:28:12.747
  • That's how good jesus was at framing things and why we need
  • 00:28:12.747 --> 00:28:15.150
  • To be good at this, both internally for our own thoughts
  • 00:28:15.150 --> 00:28:19.254
  • As well as with others.
  • 00:28:19.254 --> 00:28:20.889
  • I'm remembering back when you were teaching framing and your
  • 00:28:20.889 --> 00:28:27.061
  • Discussion to our staff, that you that you basically have a
  • 00:28:27.061 --> 00:28:33.501
  • Immediate plan, kind of a little bit longer plan and then
  • 00:28:33.501 --> 00:28:38.706
  • The ultimate plan that you start reshaping things in our
  • 00:28:38.706 --> 00:28:43.912
  • Culture that turn into policy, that then move on and actually
  • 00:28:43.912 --> 00:28:51.019
  • Have long lasting-- kind of explain the longer plan to
  • 00:28:51.019 --> 00:28:56.825
  • Winning a individual framing war.
  • 00:28:56.825 --> 00:29:01.329
  • Well let's see.
  • 00:29:01.329 --> 00:29:03.565
  • Let's take um-- we see tragically, what's happening
  • 00:29:03.565 --> 00:29:07.702
  • Now is women are being degraded, okay.
  • 00:29:07.702 --> 00:29:10.672
  • Like they don't even they don't exist.
  • 00:29:10.672 --> 00:29:12.574
  • They don't matter.
  • 00:29:12.574 --> 00:29:14.042
  • Um, that's what's happening in our culture. boys should--
  • 00:29:14.042 --> 00:29:18.513
  • You know, they're the same as boys.
  • 00:29:18.513 --> 00:29:20.582
  • So there's nothing special about women, which is what's
  • 00:29:20.582 --> 00:29:23.685
  • Being claimed, which is, you know,
  • 00:29:23.685 --> 00:29:27.055
  • Tragic. it's ridiculous.
  • 00:29:27.055 --> 00:29:28.756
  • You can choose what you are.
  • 00:29:28.756 --> 00:29:31.492
  • Yeah. and, um, you know, so that's happening.
  • 00:29:31.492 --> 00:29:34.963
  • Well, where did that start?
  • 00:29:34.963 --> 00:29:37.365
  • That started with a framing of women are being suppressed and
  • 00:29:37.365 --> 00:29:41.903
  • They need to be able to, to uh, uh, take their own way.
  • 00:29:41.903 --> 00:29:47.508
  • Now, if i ask you, the framing,
  • 00:29:47.508 --> 00:29:50.078
  • Should women be able to make their own choices,
  • 00:29:50.078 --> 00:29:52.280
  • You would say, of course they should.
  • 00:29:52.280 --> 00:29:54.015
  • Mhm. well, that's the way that framing was.
  • 00:29:54.015 --> 00:29:57.652
  • And so it was a
  • 00:29:57.652 --> 00:29:58.920
  • Brilliant framing that they started.
  • 00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:00.655
  • But then what they did is
  • 00:30:00.655 --> 00:30:02.523
  • Attach a lot of other stuff to it.
  • 00:30:02.523 --> 00:30:04.692
  • Mhm. and so what you do is you take good framing and then you
  • 00:30:04.692 --> 00:30:07.562
  • Attach to it whatever it is you're trying to elevate.
  • 00:30:07.562 --> 00:30:11.399
  • So they attach to women should
  • 00:30:11.399 --> 00:30:13.301
  • Be able to make choices for themselves,
  • 00:30:13.301 --> 00:30:15.203
  • They attached, well,
  • 00:30:15.203 --> 00:30:16.571
  • Then they shouldn't be married
  • 00:30:16.571 --> 00:30:19.307
  • Because they should be free and they should, uh, not, uh, have
  • 00:30:19.307 --> 00:30:23.945
  • Children so they can be free.
  • 00:30:23.945 --> 00:30:26.114
  • And then they should, uh, you know--
  • 00:30:26.114 --> 00:30:30.018
  • You go down that track and pretty soon there's
  • 00:30:30.018 --> 00:30:33.154
  • No such thing as a woman anymore in the culture.
  • 00:30:33.154 --> 00:30:36.291
  • Right? and i think what was actually happening-- i can't
  • 00:30:36.291 --> 00:30:39.594
  • Prove this, but i think what was actually happening is there
  • 00:30:39.594 --> 00:30:42.697
  • Was a desire to restore the alpha male culture.
  • 00:30:42.697 --> 00:30:46.501
  • Most of human history has been the alpha male culture, where
  • 00:30:46.501 --> 00:30:51.239
  • A few men get the women, and the beta males are the army.
  • 00:30:51.239 --> 00:30:55.710
  • If you'll just go back in history, that's
  • 00:30:55.710 --> 00:30:57.779
  • Kind of the norm. and the women are property
  • 00:30:57.779 --> 00:31:01.282
  • And the men who are that way, um, you know, like it that way.
  • 00:31:01.282 --> 00:31:06.554
  • And they want to be honored for having a harem of women.
  • 00:31:06.554 --> 00:31:09.891
  • And, you know, it's sick
  • 00:31:09.891 --> 00:31:11.626
  • And it's tragic, but it's common.
  • 00:31:11.626 --> 00:31:14.562
  • And i think, i think there was a desire to reinstitute that.
  • 00:31:14.562 --> 00:31:17.398
  • And you kind of kind of see that.
  • 00:31:17.398 --> 00:31:19.300
  • You can see that bubbling.
  • 00:31:19.300 --> 00:31:20.768
  • Christianity came in and disrupted that historical,
  • 00:31:20.768 --> 00:31:25.673
  • Um, that historical, um, uh, pattern.
  • 00:31:25.673 --> 00:31:29.944
  • Norm. in an enormous way.
  • 00:31:29.944 --> 00:31:31.446
  • Yeah. the historical norm, because now it became one man,
  • 00:31:31.446 --> 00:31:35.483
  • One wife, one family.
  • 00:31:35.483 --> 00:31:38.786
  • And the woman is somebody to be cherished and nurtured and
  • 00:31:38.786 --> 00:31:42.657
  • Loved like christ loved the church.
  • 00:31:42.657 --> 00:31:44.692
  • And the man is to be respected and lifted up.
  • 00:31:44.692 --> 00:31:48.229
  • Like, you know, abraham was was was honored by sarah.
  • 00:31:48.229 --> 00:31:51.966
  • And now you have two become one.
  • 00:31:51.966 --> 00:31:54.769
  • And that disrupted that, that, uh, that historical norm.
  • 00:31:54.769 --> 00:31:58.973
  • And so if you want to disrupt again and get back to the
  • 00:31:58.973 --> 00:32:03.111
  • Historical norm, then you have to undermine women as
  • 00:32:03.111 --> 00:32:08.483
  • Being, uh, an elevated, uh, you know, being in an elevated
  • 00:32:08.483 --> 00:32:13.554
  • Status and--
  • 00:32:13.554 --> 00:32:15.256
  • As one with a man.
  • 00:32:15.256 --> 00:32:16.657
  • As one with a man, uh, and as as one with god like you.
  • 00:32:16.657 --> 00:32:22.397
  • You, the woman, are showing the
  • 00:32:22.397 --> 00:32:24.766
  • Man how to be the bride of christ.
  • 00:32:24.766 --> 00:32:26.567
  • So be a good example, right?
  • 00:32:26.567 --> 00:32:28.936
  • That's a lofty thing.
  • 00:32:28.936 --> 00:32:31.005
  • Well, uh, if you want
  • 00:32:31.005 --> 00:32:32.507
  • To unravel that, you start--
  • 00:32:32.507 --> 00:32:34.575
  • You have to start with framing people would agree with, which
  • 00:32:34.575 --> 00:32:37.311
  • Is don't you think women should be able to make choices for
  • 00:32:37.311 --> 00:32:39.947
  • Themselves and then start attaching policies to it?
  • 00:32:39.947 --> 00:32:43.217
  • So that's how that game works.
  • 00:32:43.217 --> 00:32:46.320
  • The marxists, by the way, are awesome at this.
  • 00:32:46.320 --> 00:32:48.856
  • Wow. they're incredible at it.
  • 00:32:48.856 --> 00:32:50.958
  • And, uh, we're not as good at it.
  • 00:32:50.958 --> 00:32:54.328
  • But we should be the experts because we have the bible and
  • 00:32:54.328 --> 00:32:57.432
  • It shows us how this works.
  • 00:32:57.432 --> 00:32:59.233
  • And jesus did it pretty well.
  • 00:32:59.233 --> 00:33:01.169
  • He was the best ever. yeah.
  • 00:33:01.169 --> 00:33:03.104
  • So what you're kind of hearing, how did your.
  • 00:33:03.104 --> 00:33:10.078
  • I'm just going to make up a term here, your life message of
  • 00:33:10.078 --> 00:33:14.082
  • Reframing and all of this,
  • 00:33:14.082 --> 00:33:15.883
  • How does it affect what comes daily uh, or every week day
  • 00:33:15.883 --> 00:33:22.123
  • To my inbox?
  • 00:33:22.123 --> 00:33:24.559
  • And how does this help you kind of get an understanding?
  • 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:29.197
  • I want to say one other thing.
  • 00:33:29.197 --> 00:33:30.731
  • I'm holding, uh, the devotional here.
  • 00:33:30.731 --> 00:33:35.303
  • And this, this not only is this book free, uh, but the
  • 00:33:35.303 --> 00:33:39.674
  • Devotional is free.
  • 00:33:39.674 --> 00:33:41.075
  • You're a businessman.
  • 00:33:41.075 --> 00:33:42.043
  • And you're doing this to help people.
  • 00:33:42.043 --> 00:33:46.047
  • This isn't some kind of--
  • 00:33:46.047 --> 00:33:47.782
  • The daily email is just something you sign up for.
  • 00:33:47.782 --> 00:33:50.084
  • It's free if you get it.
  • 00:33:50.084 --> 00:33:51.953
  • Well, there's a number of perspectives in there
  • 00:33:51.953 --> 00:33:54.856
  • That show up on a consistent basis.
  • 00:33:54.856 --> 00:33:57.925
  • And so one of them is, um, this is the only life you get to
  • 00:33:57.925 --> 00:34:02.230
  • Know by faith. hmm.
  • 00:34:02.230 --> 00:34:04.232
  • Okay. that's a perspective.
  • 00:34:04.232 --> 00:34:06.167
  • So you can ask the question like, why did god--
  • 00:34:06.167 --> 00:34:10.538
  • So there's a five-part series on job in the devotional, 4
  • 00:34:10.538 --> 00:34:17.011
  • Or 5 and-- something like that.
  • 00:34:17.011 --> 00:34:19.380
  • And in job, you know, he goes through this horrific time and
  • 00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:23.017
  • You can ask yourself, i asked myself, why?
  • 00:34:23.017 --> 00:34:26.254
  • Why? he tells you he's a favorite guy.
  • 00:34:26.254 --> 00:34:29.423
  • He's bragging on him to satan and all this stuff.
  • 00:34:29.423 --> 00:34:32.193
  • Why? why would you do this?
  • 00:34:32.193 --> 00:34:34.395
  • At the end of that trial, job says, well, now i realize who
  • 00:34:34.395 --> 00:34:38.933
  • You really are.
  • 00:34:38.933 --> 00:34:40.401
  • Okay. that's great.
  • 00:34:40.401 --> 00:34:42.203
  • Uh, john 17:3, jesus says, this is eternal life, that
  • 00:34:42.203 --> 00:34:46.741
  • They may know you and jesus whom you sent.
  • 00:34:46.741 --> 00:34:49.944
  • So knowing god is a huge thing, but why does it have to be this
  • 00:34:49.944 --> 00:34:53.781
  • Way through all this difficulty?
  • 00:34:53.781 --> 00:34:55.283
  • Why not just wait till you get to heaven and go to, you know,
  • 00:34:55.283 --> 00:34:57.919
  • Knowing god 101?
  • 00:34:57.919 --> 00:34:59.554
  • And so i struggled with that for a long time.
  • 00:34:59.554 --> 00:35:01.889
  • And then i came across ephesians 3:10.
  • 00:35:01.889 --> 00:35:05.026
  • Okay. so ephesians 3:10 says, the manifold wisdom of god is
  • 00:35:05.026 --> 00:35:09.263
  • Revealed by the church to-- you
  • 00:35:09.263 --> 00:35:13.501
  • Remember who? the manifold wisdom of god is revealed
  • 00:35:13.501 --> 00:35:16.370
  • By the church to
  • 00:35:16.370 --> 00:35:19.173
  • The principalities and powers in the heavenly places.
  • 00:35:19.173 --> 00:35:22.810
  • So the principalities and powers in the heavenly places
  • 00:35:22.810 --> 00:35:25.713
  • Have been there.
  • 00:35:25.713 --> 00:35:26.714
  • They've been to knowing god 101 many times.
  • 00:35:26.714 --> 00:35:30.184
  • They've heard him teach about himself.
  • 00:35:30.184 --> 00:35:31.819
  • And who are they looking at to
  • 00:35:31.819 --> 00:35:33.621
  • Understand his many- faceted wisdom?
  • 00:35:33.621 --> 00:35:37.024
  • Us. what can we do that they can't do?
  • 00:35:37.024 --> 00:35:40.828
  • Know by faith.
  • 00:35:40.828 --> 00:35:42.830
  • What will we not be able to do in the next life?
  • 00:35:42.830 --> 00:35:46.534
  • Know by faith.
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  • This is it. this is your own--
  • 00:35:48.035 --> 00:35:49.704
  • I think one of the reasons there will be weeping
  • 00:35:49.704 --> 00:35:52.006
  • And gnashing of teeth in that parable,
  • 00:35:52.006 --> 00:35:54.675
  • It's the sons of the kingdom, weeping and gnashing of teeth
  • 00:35:54.675 --> 00:35:58.646
  • In the outer darkness, which means they got left out of the
  • 00:35:58.646 --> 00:36:01.249
  • Honor banquet. in that matthew 8 parable, jesus is
  • 00:36:01.249 --> 00:36:06.420
  • Saying at the table with abraham, isaac, and jacob will
  • 00:36:06.420 --> 00:36:09.724
  • Be many from east and west.
  • 00:36:09.724 --> 00:36:11.158
  • The gentiles are going to be at the table because of faith like
  • 00:36:11.158 --> 00:36:14.795
  • This centurion that he just said, i've never seen anybody
  • 00:36:14.795 --> 00:36:18.366
  • In israel with faith like that.
  • 00:36:18.366 --> 00:36:20.001
  • Faith will be honored, but there will be sons of the
  • 00:36:20.001 --> 00:36:22.803
  • Kingdom that don't even get invited
  • 00:36:22.803 --> 00:36:25.006
  • Is what he's saying.
  • 00:36:25.006 --> 00:36:26.140
  • Okay, i think the reason why that they'll be weeping,
  • 00:36:26.140 --> 00:36:30.077
  • Sadness, gnashing of teeth, anger, i think, would be mad at
  • 00:36:30.077 --> 00:36:32.747
  • Ourselves because we had an opportunity to know by faith
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  • And we didn't take advantage of it.
  • 00:36:36.183 --> 00:36:37.652
  • This is it.
  • 00:36:37.652 --> 00:36:39.020
  • So that's one of many perspectives that
  • 00:36:39.020 --> 00:36:40.821
  • You'll see as a --
  • 00:36:40.821 --> 00:36:42.256
  • I want to make sure i understood what you said.
  • 00:36:42.256 --> 00:36:44.292
  • The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be that we didn't
  • 00:36:44.292 --> 00:36:48.396
  • Step out on faith and do something that we felt like--
  • 00:36:48.396 --> 00:36:52.667
  • Is that-- no, no.
  • 00:36:52.667 --> 00:36:54.201
  • I think just-- say it again.
  • 00:36:54.201 --> 00:36:55.836
  • We didn't believe god. we didn't just-- we believed.
  • 00:36:55.836 --> 00:36:57.938
  • We believed we could control the past with regret and the
  • 00:36:57.938 --> 00:37:00.074
  • Future with anxiety.
  • 00:37:00.074 --> 00:37:01.075
  • We believed that, um,
  • 00:37:01.075 --> 00:37:03.611
  • Well, i know the bible says to forgive this person, but
  • 00:37:03.611 --> 00:37:07.348
  • He's not forgivable.
  • 00:37:07.348 --> 00:37:08.716
  • Mhm. um, you know--
  • 00:37:08.716 --> 00:37:10.751
  • Jesus actually--
  • 00:37:10.751 --> 00:37:11.786
  • We didn't do what jesus actually told us to do.
  • 00:37:11.786 --> 00:37:14.155
  • By faith.
  • 00:37:14.155 --> 00:37:15.289
  • Faith, faith means, i think what you're telling me--
  • 00:37:15.289 --> 00:37:18.426
  • I will choose to act on what you're telling me, that that's
  • 00:37:18.426 --> 00:37:22.163
  • Actually in my best interest, instead of the way i feel,
  • 00:37:22.163 --> 00:37:25.366
  • Instead of the what the world's telling me.
  • 00:37:25.366 --> 00:37:28.069
  • That's what faith is. wow.
  • 00:37:28.069 --> 00:37:29.737
  • Jesus said, if you will not take up your cross and
  • 00:37:29.737 --> 00:37:33.174
  • Follow me, you can't be my disciple.
  • 00:37:33.174 --> 00:37:36.010
  • Now that's the same thing as a professor saying, if you won't
  • 00:37:36.010 --> 00:37:38.746
  • Come to my class and do my
  • 00:37:38.746 --> 00:37:40.281
  • Homework, you can't be my student.
  • 00:37:40.281 --> 00:37:42.183
  • Right.
  • 00:37:42.183 --> 00:37:43.351
  • Okay. we can't learn the lessons jesus has to teach us
  • 00:37:43.351 --> 00:37:47.922
  • If we won't do what he asks us to do.
  • 00:37:47.922 --> 00:37:50.691
  • Come on, brother dunn.
  • 00:37:50.691 --> 00:37:53.561
  • And believe at the time
  • 00:37:53.561 --> 00:37:57.131
  • It's for our best interest.
  • 00:37:57.131 --> 00:38:00.301
  • Look, the bible says, love your neighbor as yourself.
  • 00:37:59.133 --> 00:38:04.772
  • So which means it's built in
  • 00:38:04.772 --> 00:38:07.842
  • To follow your own self-interest.
  • 00:38:07.842 --> 00:38:10.344
  • Everybody always does what they
  • 00:38:10.344 --> 00:38:11.879
  • Perceive to be in their self-interest.
  • 00:38:11.879 --> 00:38:13.981
  • The question is, are you going to believe what's true about
  • 00:38:13.981 --> 00:38:18.152
  • What's in your self-interest?
  • 00:38:18.152 --> 00:38:20.955
  • What's life that god says is life, or are you going to
  • 00:38:20.955 --> 00:38:24.892
  • Believe what the world says?
  • 00:38:24.892 --> 00:38:25.893
  • And what does god say life is?
  • 00:38:25.893 --> 00:38:27.795
  • Lay down yourself.
  • 00:38:27.795 --> 00:38:29.730
  • Set aside your desires, and follow me.
  • 00:38:29.730 --> 00:38:33.367
  • Instead of doing what feels good.
  • 00:38:33.367 --> 00:38:35.002
  • Instead of doing the way i fit my appetites.
  • 00:38:35.002 --> 00:38:37.738
  • You know, because, uh, somebody
  • 00:38:37.738 --> 00:38:40.274
  • Hits me, i want to hit them back.
  • 00:38:40.274 --> 00:38:42.176
  • If somebody-- can we at least think it?
  • 00:38:42.176 --> 00:38:44.278
  • Oh, absolutely.
  • 00:38:44.278 --> 00:38:46.380
  • Because it doesn't say-- it
  • 00:38:46.380 --> 00:38:47.715
  • Doesn't say don't have thoughts.
  • 00:38:47.715 --> 00:38:49.383
  • It says, take every thought--
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  • Captive. captive.
  • 00:38:51.118 --> 00:38:52.520
  • You can't control your thoughts.
  • 00:38:52.520 --> 00:38:54.021
  • You can control what you do. okay.
  • 00:38:54.021 --> 00:38:56.924
  • Which ones you dwell on.
  • 00:38:56.924 --> 00:38:58.192
  • A little bit of a reset here, tim dunn.
  • 00:38:58.192 --> 00:39:00.694
  • Uh, he's a west texas guy, and we're in dallas. west texas
  • 00:39:00.694 --> 00:39:05.966
  • People don't come to dallas that much.
  • 00:39:05.966 --> 00:39:07.868
  • But anyway, um-- welcome.
  • 00:39:07.868 --> 00:39:10.004
  • I'm holding, uh, the yellow balloons, uh, devotional.
  • 00:39:10.004 --> 00:39:14.475
  • I get this, it's free.
  • 00:39:14.475 --> 00:39:16.877
  • It comes to your email box when you sign up.
  • 00:39:16.877 --> 00:39:21.449
  • Atyellowballoons.net
  • 00:39:21.449 --> 00:39:22.883
  • That's all on the screen.
  • 00:39:22.883 --> 00:39:25.853
  • That's all being done for us.
  • 00:39:25.853 --> 00:39:27.521
  • Okay.
  • 00:39:27.521 --> 00:39:28.355
  • And so basically, um, tell me now,
  • 00:39:28.355 --> 00:39:33.994
  • Now that you have the color hair you have and mine's
  • 00:39:33.994 --> 00:39:36.997
  • Right behind you.
  • 00:39:36.997 --> 00:39:38.165
  • Yours is a little bit whiter
  • 00:39:38.165 --> 00:39:39.533
  • Than mine, but i'm right behind you.
  • 00:39:39.533 --> 00:39:41.502
  • It's biblical.
  • 00:39:41.502 --> 00:39:42.603
  • It's when the almond tree blossoms. it's biblical.
  • 00:39:42.603 --> 00:39:45.439
  • Exactly.
  • 00:39:45.439 --> 00:39:46.707
  • So i'm going to assume, tim, that you do a really good job
  • 00:39:46.707 --> 00:39:52.446
  • At this, that your natural reaction is to dig deep,
  • 00:39:52.446 --> 00:39:58.719
  • Reframe, and do the right thing. before you got really good at
  • 00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:03.891
  • It and before you could step back and when you weren't
  • 00:40:03.891 --> 00:40:08.295
  • As good at it,
  • 00:40:08.295 --> 00:40:10.030
  • Tell me something that you were really doing wrong for a while
  • 00:40:10.030 --> 00:40:16.036
  • That gives us an example of this idea that, yeah, the past,
  • 00:40:16.036 --> 00:40:24.845
  • You can't control it with regret.
  • 00:40:24.845 --> 00:40:26.947
  • You can't control the present with anger.
  • 00:40:26.947 --> 00:40:29.316
  • And you can't control the future with anxiety.
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  • You just-- that's not the right choice.
  • 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.423
  • When you're when you're born,
  • 00:40:36.423 --> 00:40:38.058
  • You look like your mama and daddy.
  • 00:40:38.058 --> 00:40:39.660
  • When you're older, you look like your choices.
  • 00:40:39.660 --> 00:40:43.430
  • You're doing them right now.
  • 00:40:43.430 --> 00:40:44.865
  • But when you were not doing it
  • 00:40:44.865 --> 00:40:47.167
  • As well, what did you struggle with?
  • 00:40:47.167 --> 00:40:48.869
  • And give us an example of that.
  • 00:40:48.869 --> 00:40:50.771
  • Well, i would not say i used to not
  • 00:40:50.771 --> 00:40:53.774
  • Do it well and now i do it well.
  • 00:40:53.774 --> 00:40:56.310
  • I would, i would--
  • 00:40:56.310 --> 00:40:57.378
  • Because you're going to reframe that question.
  • 00:40:57.378 --> 00:40:58.879
  • Going to reframe your question here.
  • 00:40:58.879 --> 00:41:00.781
  • So since we're talking about framing, i'll be overt about it.
  • 00:41:00.781 --> 00:41:04.351
  • Yeah. um, i would say that my flesh-- what i've learned is
  • 00:41:04.351 --> 00:41:10.391
  • My flesh never gets any better.
  • 00:41:10.391 --> 00:41:12.626
  • It's always the same.
  • 00:41:12.626 --> 00:41:13.928
  • I think it actually gets worse over time because it's looking
  • 00:41:13.928 --> 00:41:16.764
  • For new ways to trip you up.
  • 00:41:16.764 --> 00:41:19.466
  • Okay. and so it's growing just like you're growing.
  • 00:41:19.466 --> 00:41:23.470
  • So i would say the battle is always the same.
  • 00:41:23.470 --> 00:41:26.540
  • Uh, the only thing that changes
  • 00:41:26.540 --> 00:41:28.509
  • For me is the time it takes to reset.
  • 00:41:28.509 --> 00:41:32.279
  • I think over time,
  • 00:41:32.279 --> 00:41:33.480
  • I can do it quicker.
  • 00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:34.481
  • And i'll give you an example.
  • 00:41:34.481 --> 00:41:36.216
  • Um, criticism.
  • 00:41:36.216 --> 00:41:37.918
  • I don't particularly like it.
  • 00:41:37.918 --> 00:41:41.956
  • And, uh, and so, uh.
  • 00:41:41.956 --> 00:41:45.526
  • Did it irritate when i send you these things when you're
  • 00:41:45.526 --> 00:41:48.329
  • On the cover of something--
  • 00:41:48.329 --> 00:41:50.130
  • And why would you say that?
  • 00:41:50.130 --> 00:41:51.966
  • Well, so a lot of people do that.
  • 00:41:51.966 --> 00:41:54.602
  • Okay.
  • 00:41:54.602 --> 00:41:55.736
  • Uh, but generally, generally when i get criticized,
  • 00:41:55.736 --> 00:41:59.106
  • Okay. um, at first, at first i
  • 00:41:59.106 --> 00:42:03.177
  • Was like, i need to answer back. yeah.
  • 00:42:03.177 --> 00:42:05.379
  • Okay. so that would be an example of before i learned
  • 00:42:05.379 --> 00:42:08.983
  • This power framing. yeah. okay.
  • 00:42:08.983 --> 00:42:11.819
  • I need to answer back.
  • 00:42:11.819 --> 00:42:12.820
  • Need to defend myself. yeah.
  • 00:42:12.820 --> 00:42:14.755
  • Well, what i learned is-- and this is actually the,
  • 00:42:14.755 --> 00:42:18.192
  • The practical consequence of turning the other cheek.
  • 00:42:18.192 --> 00:42:22.062
  • Mhm.
  • 00:42:22.062 --> 00:42:23.230
  • Okay. what i actually learned is if you react you're
  • 00:42:23.230 --> 00:42:27.034
  • Elevating that criticism.
  • 00:42:27.034 --> 00:42:28.836
  • Wow. you're actually hurting yourself.
  • 00:42:28.836 --> 00:42:31.005
  • Wow.
  • 00:42:31.005 --> 00:42:32.239
  • Okay. so uh so what i learned so what i learned to redo
  • 00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:38.145
  • And now-- and it would take me like a whole day at first.
  • 00:42:38.145 --> 00:42:42.683
  • And then gradually it, you know, the time it takes to do
  • 00:42:42.683 --> 00:42:46.654
  • It is i have a little speech that i give to myself.
  • 00:42:46.654 --> 00:42:50.224
  • I do want to hear that someday.
  • 00:42:50.224 --> 00:42:52.059
  • Uh, well, i'll tell you what it is.
  • 00:42:52.059 --> 00:42:55.062
  • Basically, it's like, okay,
  • 00:42:55.062 --> 00:42:58.232
  • Nobody's looking at me.
  • 00:42:58.232 --> 00:42:59.600
  • Yeah.
  • 00:42:59.600 --> 00:43:00.801
  • They're not thinking about me.
  • 00:43:00.801 --> 00:43:02.903
  • They're thinking about themselves.
  • 00:43:02.903 --> 00:43:04.872
  • They're worried about their kids, their problems, their
  • 00:43:04.872 --> 00:43:07.975
  • Life, their lives, their issues.
  • 00:43:07.975 --> 00:43:09.643
  • They're not dwelling on me.
  • 00:43:09.643 --> 00:43:11.278
  • I'm the only one dwelling on me.
  • 00:43:11.278 --> 00:43:14.748
  • If i took a poll, nobody would know who i am.
  • 00:43:14.748 --> 00:43:20.521
  • The people that watch this show will forget.
  • 00:43:20.521 --> 00:43:23.924
  • Within weeks, there was this guy.
  • 00:43:23.924 --> 00:43:26.260
  • I can't remember his name.
  • 00:43:26.260 --> 00:43:27.194
  • He had white hair.
  • 00:43:27.194 --> 00:43:28.128
  • Yeah, he was from west texas.
  • 00:43:28.128 --> 00:43:29.463
  • Really good though.
  • 00:43:29.463 --> 00:43:30.464
  • You might remember a few things to take away,
  • 00:43:30.464 --> 00:43:33.200
  • Then becomes part of you.
  • 00:43:33.200 --> 00:43:35.135
  • Yeah, that's what this is for.
  • 00:43:35.135 --> 00:43:36.670
  • That's fantastic.
  • 00:43:36.670 --> 00:43:37.538
  • That's what we want to have happen.
  • 00:43:37.538 --> 00:43:40.007
  • But a lot of times i'll ask people like,
  • 00:43:40.007 --> 00:43:43.410
  • Who won the super bowl last year?
  • 00:43:43.410 --> 00:43:45.012
  • Yeah. they're like, oh...
  • 00:43:45.012 --> 00:43:46.313
  • Well, you know, 100 million people watched us.
  • 00:43:46.313 --> 00:43:49.783
  • Name three players on the philadelphia eagles.
  • 00:43:49.783 --> 00:43:52.953
  • Uh... you know, you just don't remember stuff, right?
  • 00:43:52.953 --> 00:43:56.323
  • It takes millions of dollars
  • 00:43:56.323 --> 00:43:59.159
  • And constant effort to be famous.
  • 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.762
  • Wow.
  • 00:44:01.762 --> 00:44:02.696
  • And so just nobody's paying attention.
  • 00:44:02.696 --> 00:44:05.466
  • I'm the only person that's focused on me.
  • 00:44:05.466 --> 00:44:08.102
  • Wow.
  • 00:44:08.102 --> 00:44:08.936
  • Okay, so just get over it.
  • 00:44:08.936 --> 00:44:11.271
  • Yeah.
  • 00:44:11.271 --> 00:44:12.573
  • And so it would take me about a day at first, and now it's just
  • 00:44:12.573 --> 00:44:16.276
  • Like nobody cares. so good.
  • 00:44:16.276 --> 00:44:20.814
  • So laurie's more like you.
  • 00:44:20.814 --> 00:44:23.984
  • I have a tendency to not care
  • 00:44:23.984 --> 00:44:26.520
  • Pretty early on is just a tendency.
  • 00:44:26.520 --> 00:44:29.923
  • Uh, but i'm getting better.
  • 00:44:29.923 --> 00:44:32.292
  • I'll ask you another question that i don't think you'll be
  • 00:44:32.292 --> 00:44:34.561
  • Able to reframe.
  • 00:44:34.561 --> 00:44:35.829
  • Don't you want to just be better, tim?
  • 00:44:35.829 --> 00:44:37.898
  • Do you want to be better tomorrow than you are today?
  • 00:44:37.898 --> 00:44:40.300
  • Yes. okay.
  • 00:44:40.300 --> 00:44:41.201
  • See? i got a yes out of him.
  • 00:44:41.201 --> 00:44:42.369
  • You got one.
  • 00:44:42.369 --> 00:44:43.637
  • That is literally the only time he's ever answered.
  • 00:44:43.637 --> 00:44:45.939
  • I said, hey, tim, why don't we
  • 00:44:45.939 --> 00:44:47.407
  • Go on praise and talk about theology?
  • 00:44:47.407 --> 00:44:49.476
  • He goes, well, i said, well, i don't
  • 00:44:49.476 --> 00:44:52.412
  • Really like to use the term theology.
  • 00:44:52.412 --> 00:44:55.415
  • It tends to it tends to put everything in a box.
  • 00:44:55.415 --> 00:44:58.952
  • And we don't live in a box.
  • 00:44:58.952 --> 00:45:00.087
  • God doesn't live in a box.
  • 00:45:00.087 --> 00:45:01.488
  • I prefer to talk about what works in life.
  • 00:45:01.488 --> 00:45:04.725
  • I love it.
  • 00:45:04.725 --> 00:45:06.727
  • He reframes everything and--
  • 00:45:06.727 --> 00:45:09.596
  • And that's a good point.
  • 00:45:09.596 --> 00:45:10.831
  • I'm always trying to do what i saw in that jesus looking
  • 00:45:10.831 --> 00:45:14.067
  • Through what's being said.
  • 00:45:14.067 --> 00:45:16.737
  • If i look at a newspaper article, i don't
  • 00:45:16.737 --> 00:45:19.173
  • Look at the article.
  • 00:45:19.173 --> 00:45:20.440
  • I look through the article to see what the framing is.
  • 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:23.343
  • There it is. so good.
  • 00:45:23.343 --> 00:45:24.278
  • And i love that.
  • 00:45:24.278 --> 00:45:25.546
  • And there is a lot of that kind of--
  • 00:45:25.546 --> 00:45:32.486
  • Teaching? teaching. that's perfect.
  • 00:45:32.486 --> 00:45:35.556
  • There's a lot of that kind of teaching in this.
  • 00:45:35.556 --> 00:45:38.926
  • Tim, uh, did a lot of the framing on this, and joey
  • 00:45:38.926 --> 00:45:43.263
  • Willis did a lot of the writing.
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  • You did a lot of the editing.
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  • And so, uh, both of you, uh, have done something that
  • 00:45:46.300 --> 00:45:52.206
  • Is-- this matters, tim.
  • 00:45:52.206 --> 00:45:54.141
  • And the other thing is, you know, with all due respect,
  • 00:45:54.141 --> 00:45:58.045
  • There's a lot of people that come on with a book and they
  • 00:45:58.045 --> 00:46:01.081
  • Really would prefer that you buy their book.
  • 00:46:01.081 --> 00:46:04.852
  • This one is free.
  • 00:46:04.852 --> 00:46:06.486
  • Okay.
  • 00:46:06.486 --> 00:46:07.221
  • And so the devotional is free.
  • 00:46:07.221 --> 00:46:09.523
  • The yellow balloons book is free.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:46:11.625 --> 00:46:12.292
  • And he isn't really trying
  • 00:46:12.292 --> 00:46:14.862
  • To get a mailing list together to--
  • 00:46:14.862 --> 00:46:16.697
  • Just wants a better world.
  • 00:46:16.697 --> 00:46:17.698
  • And to then send and ask you for a donation.
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  • I assure you that's not true.
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  • That's not coming.
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  • That's true.
  • 00:46:22.669 --> 00:46:23.904
  • So it feels like this, um, is something that we wanted
  • 00:46:23.904 --> 00:46:27.808
  • To jump on.
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  • It's in my email box, and i
  • 00:46:29.009 --> 00:46:32.379
  • Read it, you know, almost every day.
  • 00:46:32.379 --> 00:46:34.281
  • So i'm not going to say i read it every day.
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  • Break this down.
  • 00:46:35.716 --> 00:46:36.650
  • So break it down like in marriage.
  • 00:46:36.650 --> 00:46:40.454
  • Break what down?
  • 00:46:40.454 --> 00:46:41.188
  • Break the reframing of-- oh.
  • 00:46:41.188 --> 00:46:45.259
  • Of difficulty in your marriage, let's say.
  • 00:46:45.259 --> 00:46:49.196
  • Well-- or arguments or --
  • 00:46:49.196 --> 00:46:52.466
  • One of my favorite uh, this is i'm going to use servant
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  • Leadership tool now.
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  • Okay.
  • 00:46:56.103 --> 00:46:57.104
  • So because all these things are connected,
  • 00:46:57.104 --> 00:46:58.572
  • Right. but um, your mind automatically turns everything
  • 00:46:58.572 --> 00:47:02.776
  • You see into a story,
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  • And the story has a plot in it, and the hero
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  • Is always?
  • 00:47:09.249 --> 00:47:10.884
  • You. me.
  • 00:47:10.884 --> 00:47:11.885
  • Yeah, right. that's right.
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  • Or should be.
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  • So when when the when emotions start to rise,
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  • Any at all,
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  • Your mind will automatically
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  • Tell you a story about what's happening,
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  • Cast yourself as the hero, and whoever's causing the emotion
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  • As the villain. yes.
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  • It's automatic.
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  • You can't stop it.
  • 00:47:31.872 --> 00:47:33.040
  • Wow. that's human nature.
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  • It's just the way it is.
  • 00:47:35.075 --> 00:47:36.510
  • Okay. but you can know that.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:47:38.812 --> 00:47:39.713
  • And no, it's never true.
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  • Right.
  • 00:47:42.282 --> 00:47:43.183
  • Okay. so what you can do as a couple,
  • 00:47:43.183 --> 00:47:46.119
  • And this is super powerful.
  • 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:47.654
  • We use it in business all the time.
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  • We call it the moment of truth.
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  • Okay.
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  • What's making my-- what's driving my story is my facts.
  • 00:47:52.993 --> 00:47:57.464
  • Mm. what's driving your story is your facts.
  • 00:47:57.464 --> 00:48:00.200
  • And if when it's my story versus your story,
  • 00:48:00.200 --> 00:48:03.070
  • We can't ever have--
  • 00:48:03.070 --> 00:48:04.972
  • We can't ever come to agreement
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  • Because i've already got a hero, right?
  • 00:48:06.139 --> 00:48:09.609
  • So what we have to do is set that story aside and say, why
  • 00:48:09.609 --> 00:48:13.146
  • Don't we come up with shared facts?
  • 00:48:13.146 --> 00:48:15.615
  • What did you see?
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  • Let me listen to-- let me listen to where you're coming from.
  • 00:48:17.317 --> 00:48:20.988
  • So in marriage, i think it all starts with listening.
  • 00:48:20.988 --> 00:48:24.791
  • And listening, we say, is not
  • 00:48:24.791 --> 00:48:26.793
  • Hearing what someone else is saying.
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  • It's seeing what they see.
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  • Mhm.
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  • Let me step in your shoes.
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  • So let me understand your facts.
  • 00:48:34.101 --> 00:48:36.636
  • Once i understand your facts.
  • 00:48:36.636 --> 00:48:38.605
  • Now let me, let me put it together with my facts,
  • 00:48:38.605 --> 00:48:41.875
  • And shared facts. makes a shared story.
  • 00:48:41.875 --> 00:48:44.611
  • A new story. mhm.
  • 00:48:44.611 --> 00:48:46.179
  • And now it's us as the hero.
  • 00:48:46.179 --> 00:48:48.548
  • Yeah.
  • 00:48:48.548 --> 00:48:49.850
  • And you can, you can do this by saying things like, hey, we're
  • 00:48:49.850 --> 00:48:52.719
  • On the same team here, right.
  • 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.821
  • It's not me versus you, it's us trying to figure out
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  • How to become one.
  • 00:48:57.657 --> 00:48:59.059
  • Yeah. that's our there.
  • 00:48:59.059 --> 00:49:00.927
  • And our here is we have
  • 00:49:00.927 --> 00:49:02.429
  • Something that we got to figure out.
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  • Let's get on the same page with shared facts.
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  • Love that.
  • 00:49:06.666 --> 00:49:07.601
  • Now there's a reason not to like that.
  • 00:49:07.601 --> 00:49:09.036
  • And that's if you want to manipulate
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  • And suck somebody into your story.
  • 00:49:11.838 --> 00:49:15.075
  • But that is-- that's just not it's not productive living.
  • 00:49:15.075 --> 00:49:18.478
  • Are you going to say i'm a story sucker?
  • 00:49:18.478 --> 00:49:20.514
  • I think there's going to be the framing.
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  • Body language says it all.
  • 00:49:24.317 --> 00:49:26.119
  • Yeah, i'm the story sucker.
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  • Never the villain.
  • 00:49:28.588 --> 00:49:31.091
  • So, um, we're kind of, uh, we're kind of out of time.
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  • We're going to-- thank you for sitting here and talking
  • 00:49:35.695 --> 00:49:38.331
  • Theology with me, tim.
  • 00:49:38.331 --> 00:49:40.067
  • I really enjoyed that.
  • 00:49:40.067 --> 00:49:41.535
  • When we talked about
  • 00:49:41.535 --> 00:49:42.502
  • Theology as a word about god, i embrace it.
  • 00:49:42.502 --> 00:49:44.538
  • Okay. love that.
  • 00:49:44.538 --> 00:49:46.173
  • And what i'd love for you to do, um, is look into your
  • 00:49:46.173 --> 00:49:50.911
  • Camera there and admonish the folks and a little bit of a
  • 00:49:50.911 --> 00:49:54.014
  • Prayer kind of to close this out.
  • 00:49:54.014 --> 00:49:56.383
  • Uh, we're talking about, uh, all of this new stuff that--
  • 00:49:56.383 --> 00:50:01.288
  • So let me just say to you, if
  • 00:50:01.288 --> 00:50:03.356
  • You are struggling with circumstances,
  • 00:50:03.356 --> 00:50:08.628
  • It's most likely that most of those circumstances are things
  • 00:50:08.628 --> 00:50:11.565
  • You can't control.
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  • Something else is happening.
  • 00:50:13.900 --> 00:50:15.402
  • But you know what?
  • 00:50:15.402 --> 00:50:16.203
  • You can control who you trust.
  • 00:50:16.203 --> 00:50:18.839
  • And god is always faithful.
  • 00:50:18.839 --> 00:50:21.575
  • You know what you can control? your perspective.
  • 00:50:21.575 --> 00:50:24.778
  • And you can pray, and you can seek god, and you can read the
  • 00:50:24.778 --> 00:50:28.515
  • Word and you can find a perspective that's true.
  • 00:50:28.515 --> 00:50:32.953
  • And when we believe god and when we choose a perspective
  • 00:50:32.953 --> 00:50:38.425
  • That's true, we are taking every thought captive to the
  • 00:50:38.425 --> 00:50:41.328
  • Obedience of christ.
  • 00:50:41.328 --> 00:50:43.163
  • And then when we put those things into action, we're
  • 00:50:43.163 --> 00:50:46.533
  • Taking up our cross and following jesus because we're
  • 00:50:46.533 --> 00:50:49.603
  • Doing what he asked us to do.
  • 00:50:49.603 --> 00:50:52.239
  • And nobody can stop you.
  • 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.774
  • Nobody can stop you from choosing to believe what's true
  • 00:50:54.774 --> 00:50:59.946
  • And choosing a perspective that's true and acting on
  • 00:50:59.946 --> 00:51:05.018
  • Those beliefs. nobody can stop you.
  • 00:51:05.018 --> 00:51:07.287
  • And if you do those things, the bible promises that you are
  • 00:51:07.287 --> 00:51:12.659
  • Winning at life.
  • 00:51:12.659 --> 00:51:14.294
  • You are racing for the crown, and that is constructive life.
  • 00:51:14.294 --> 00:51:21.434
  • And nobody can take that away from you.
  • 00:51:21.434 --> 00:51:23.670
  • And all those circumstances that are pressing in
  • 00:51:23.670 --> 00:51:26.640
  • Are what they are.
  • 00:51:26.640 --> 00:51:28.408
  • That's the wave you're surfing on.
  • 00:51:28.408 --> 00:51:30.443
  • You can't, you can't change those things unless you're
  • 00:51:30.443 --> 00:51:33.680
  • Doing it to yourself.
  • 00:51:33.680 --> 00:51:34.781
  • And then you can stop, right?
  • 00:51:34.781 --> 00:51:36.750
  • But, um, assuming that you're not creating your own problems,
  • 00:51:36.750 --> 00:51:42.122
  • Uh, you can you can take any circumstances and take them
  • 00:51:42.122 --> 00:51:46.693
  • And, and do do your best with those things by trusting god,
  • 00:51:46.693 --> 00:51:50.964
  • Choosing a true perspective and, and, uh, acting on those.
  • 00:51:50.964 --> 00:51:56.036
  • So let me just pray for you that you would, that you would
  • 00:51:56.036 --> 00:52:01.508
  • Follow, that you would follow
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  • In these admonitions that god has given us to believe him.
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  • Thank you, lord.
  • 00:52:07.514 --> 00:52:08.048
  • He is faithful and
  • 00:52:08.048 --> 00:52:09.649
  • He's the same yesterday, today, and forever.
  • 00:52:09.649 --> 00:52:12.752
  • And he is true.
  • 00:52:12.752 --> 00:52:14.287
  • And what he tells us is true.
  • 00:52:14.287 --> 00:52:15.922
  • And if we will seek to listen to him, not to look for things
  • 00:52:15.922 --> 00:52:20.560
  • To put into our framing, but to look and see what is his
  • 00:52:20.560 --> 00:52:24.564
  • Framing and what is his truth, what perspective is true about
  • 00:52:24.564 --> 00:52:28.301
  • Me and about where i'm living and and seek that, uh,
  • 00:52:28.301 --> 00:52:34.407
  • We will find.
  • 00:52:34.407 --> 00:52:35.308
  • He says he's not far from us.
  • 00:52:35.308 --> 00:52:36.910
  • If we'll grope, we can find him.
  • 00:52:36.910 --> 00:52:39.412
  • And he's waiting for you, and he's,
  • 00:52:39.412 --> 00:52:41.681
  • He's there for you.
  • 00:52:41.681 --> 00:52:43.016
  • And so i just pray that you would have a more
  • 00:52:43.016 --> 00:52:46.686
  • Robust and more, uh, constructive life by
  • 00:52:46.686 --> 00:52:51.124
  • Making good choices.
  • 00:52:51.124 --> 00:52:53.560
  • In jesus' name
  • 00:52:53.560 --> 00:52:54.928
  • Because the truth sets us free.
  • 00:52:54.928 --> 00:52:56.396
  • And the truth sets us free.
  • 00:52:56.396 --> 00:52:57.430
  • So good.
  • 00:52:57.430 --> 00:52:58.965
  • Uh, tim dunn yellow balloons.
  • 00:52:58.965 --> 00:53:01.635
  • It is a devotional available, um, for free.
  • 00:53:01.635 --> 00:53:07.474
  • And all of that is on the screen.
  • 00:53:07.474 --> 00:53:10.277
  • All the information.
  • 00:53:10.277 --> 00:53:11.378
  • Get it.
  • 00:53:11.378 --> 00:53:12.512
  • And tim dunn, will you will you come back and talk
  • 00:53:12.512 --> 00:53:15.181
  • Theology with me? sure.
  • 00:53:15.181 --> 00:53:16.916
  • Okay. as long as i don't have to put it
  • 00:53:16.916 --> 00:53:18.385
  • In a box. do you want to be better?
  • 00:53:18.385 --> 00:53:19.919
  • He's going to reframe it for you.
  • 00:53:19.919 --> 00:53:21.488
  • Will you be better when i see you next time?
  • 00:53:21.488 --> 00:53:24.524
  • We'll see. we'll see.
  • 00:53:24.524 --> 00:53:25.525
  • You want to be better? i want to be better.
  • 00:53:25.525 --> 00:53:27.027
  • Okay. we'll see you next time.
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  • Thank you. bye bye.
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  • ♪♪
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