Tim Timberlake and Philip Anthony Mitchell find spiritual redemption and embark on a mission to spread the message of hope and salvation. As they navigate through personal struggles and past traumas, they come together to lead a national prayer event that unites tens of thousands in prayer and worship. Through their podcast, Street Preachers, they inspire others to turn to God, changing lives and igniting a revival in their community. With faith as their compass and love as their armor, they confront darkness and spread the light of the Gospel, bringing hope to all who hear their message.
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Praise | Tim Timberlake and Philip Anthony Mitchell: Street Preachers | Praise | November 17, 2025
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- - [announcer] coming up tonight on "praise".
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- - i was in the streets 'til about the age of 24.
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- I was at a period in my life where i was suicidal,
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- I was empty, and i felt like i had all the trappings
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- Of worldly success.
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- You know, a car, money, beautiful girl.
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- But something was missing.
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- And my girlfriend at the time,
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- We lived together, did everything wrong.
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- She got into a car accident, came home, put on gospel music.
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- It was the first time in my life i ever heard gospel music.
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- And she lifted her hands and thanked god for her life.
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- And i saw that, and something inside me said,
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- Whatever that is, i want that.
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- I crawled into a bathroom on my hands and knees
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- And started yelling at god.
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- Did not know he existed.
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- And god saved me in that bathroom, november, 2003.
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- - [announcer] tonight on "praise" from dallas,
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- Senior pastor tim timberlake
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- And visionary leader philip anthony mitchell.
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- (upbeat music continues)
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- And now your hosts, matt and laurie crouch.
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- - but the best introduction for you
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- Is a couple of street preachers that love jesus.
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- Tim, where do you wanna start this conversation today?
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- - oh, man, we can start anywhere.
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- I, you know, i'm honored to be sitting here
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- With you all beside my brother.
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- - yeah. - my best friend, man.
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- God is doing some incredible and remarkable things
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- Through pastor philip anthony mitchell.
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- And you know, i just wanna start by saying i'm amazed
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- At how god is using this incredible gift
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- To the body of christ.
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- Before we started taping, just highlighting,
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- A couple of weeks ago, 40,000 plus people
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- Showed up for prayer in atlanta.
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- Talk a little bit about that, phil.
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- - yeah, you know, when my father was alive,
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- My father's in glory, now.
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- My mother and father followed me to the south.
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- And we were living in georgia.
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- My parents had a small house about 800 square feet.
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- And on wednesday nights we would go into that house
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- And we would pray for the space of an hour.
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- And we kind of hijacked
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- That from acts when the apostles went up
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- To the temple for the hour of prayer.
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- And it was maybe about eight of us at the time.
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- And it grew to maybe about 12, never got more than 25,
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- But we would pray every week for an hour.
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- And i named it access, you know, for the direct line
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- That god gave us as his children.
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- And access started to grow and it grew and it grew.
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- And just a couple weeks ago, october 12th, 2025,
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- We put out a national call for an hour of prayer.
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- And in the midst of everything happening right now
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- In our nation, things are so visceral on social media.
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- There's a lot of bitter divides and racial divides
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- And political divides.
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- And we put out a national call for prayer
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- And over 40,000 people showed up at the state farm arena.
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- Georgia world congress center.
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- We prayed in the arena, we prayed in the congress center,
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- We prayed in the streets, we took over the parks,
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- We laid hands on each other.
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- We opened god's word.
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- We worshiped jesus for a hour after that.
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- It was glorious.
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- It felt like, for a moment,
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- God united the nation and it was powerful.
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- - okay, what i love about this is
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- They came for an hour.
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- - [tim] yeah. - [phil] yeah.
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- - to the state farm arena.
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- How did you do that?
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- - yeah, i mean, i think the lord drew them.
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- It's like matt says all the time, if christ be lifted up,
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- You know, he would draw all men to himself.
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- And we told people, we reminded people
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- That our nation right now is sick
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- And our nation right now is broken.
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- And i reminded people, that if my people, god said-
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- - yep. or call by my name would humble themselves and pray.
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- Turn from their wicked ways,
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- Seek my face before they seek my hand.
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- I hear from heaven and i will heal.
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- And we put out that charge to the nation.
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- And they came from all across the nation.
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- They came from around the world as far away as australia.
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- - yeah. - [host] wow.
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- - people flew in from dubai, from africa,
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- From continents, all around the world.
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- - all over. - for an hour of prayer.
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- - wow.
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- - an hour of worship. and that's all we did.
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- It was no preaching, it was no celebrities, it was nothing.
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- It was just, we're gonna meet with jesus and sit at his feet
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- - just jesus. - for an hour.
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- - just jesus. for an hour. - i love it.
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- - so tim, your mom and daddy used to host this program.
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- - [tim] yeah. - [host 2] mac and brenda.
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- - [tim] that's right. - [pastor philip] legends.
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- - [host] yes they are.
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- - they and my mom and daddy were, were pals.
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- - yeah.
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- - and you know, you go way back with us, pastor philip,
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- I'm gonna call you pastor 'cause you are a pastor.
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- - yes, sir.
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- - a moment ago, even before we began taping,
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- You were sitting there saying, man, what a shock to be here.
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- - yeah.
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- - i got saved in queens, new york.
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- And, and kind of pick up that story.
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- Let's start, gimme a little of your testimony.
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- A lot of people know about, you know,
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- Street preachers podcast and your church 2819.
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- And look, i mean, there's, there's a lot of things
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- We could sit here and talk about,
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- But maybe some of us need to get to know you a little bit.
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- - yeah.
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- - start, start with that, that moment.
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- - yeah. parents, immigrants from trinidad.
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- I was first person in my family, born in the us,
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- Was raised in queens, new york,
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- And was just far away from god.
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- Parents were believers, loved jesus,
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- Saw them reading the word, praying.
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- It just didn't click for me.
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- And i was in the streets till about the age of 24.
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- I was at a period in my life where i was suicidal.
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- I was empty. and i felt like i had all the trappings
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- Of worldly success, you know, car money, beautiful girl.
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- But something was missing. and my girlfriend at the time,
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- We lived together, did everything wrong.
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- She got into a car accident, came home, put on gospel music.
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- It's the first time in my life i ever heard gospel music.
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- And she lifted her hands and thanked god for her life.
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- And i saw that, and something inside me said,
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- Whatever that is, i want that. i crawled into a bathroom,
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- My hands and knees and started yelling at god.
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- Did not know he existed. and god saved me in that bathroom,
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- November, 2003. and then six months later,
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- He called me to the ministry.
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- Ran from that for four years before i finally surrendered.
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- And then in october of 2012,
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- My wife and 11 other believers, 12 of us total actually,
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- We founded what was first victory church.
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- And i changed it to 2019 in january 23.
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- And what god has done now is
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- Beyond anything we would've expected.
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- We have the privilege, the awesome privilege to lead
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- What i believe is a, a revival happening right now
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- In the city of atlanta. and, and i just want
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- To exalt the name of christ and win souls to jesus,
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- And multiply disciples and spread the gospel.
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- That's all i really think about.
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- I think for me, my greatest reward is gonna be the crown.
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- That's gonna be the crown that i lay down
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- At the feet of the savior. right. that's all.
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- And that's all of who i am.
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- - how would you have connected, you know,
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- I know tim, you would've watched your mom and daddy
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- Hosting this program. - [tim] yeah.
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- - so i know how you got connected to tbn.
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- How did you get connected to tbn?
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- - man, when i was saved, i had a small computer
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- In the apartment and, and we had nothing to watch.
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- You know, my wife, my wife and i were so poor at the time.
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- I would turn on tv and on our computer
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- And i would, i would watch praise,
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- I would watch shows and i would see preachers,
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- Who i admired back in those days.
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- Sitting, probably wasn't this studio, this is beautiful.
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- But they sat in a studio somewhere in this building.
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- - yeah. it wasn't this one.
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- - it wasn't this one. and, and, you know, and tim's parents.
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- - yeah.
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- - i used to see them on tv, they're, they're legends.
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- And i would just watch and i would sit there inspired,
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- And think to myself one day, man, oh man,
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- What would it be like to sit on that couch?
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- You know? and, and for me it was just, it was just a dream.
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- Never think i thought it would really come to pass.
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- And so to just sit here, it is nostalgic for me.
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- And i'm just deeply humbled to be in your presence today.
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- - oh. - yeah.
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- - how did y'all get together?
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- - that's a great question.
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- - tim was preaching at new church in miami.
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- - yeah miami.
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- - i've always known tim, but he didn't know me. right?
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- Because i actually went to school in north carolina.
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- - yeah.
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- - and tim's parents had one of the most influential churches
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- In the state of north carolina.
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- - and, and so i would hear his name in the streets,
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- But he was far away from god.
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- - yeah. i was far away from god.
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- - but you was in the street. - yep. in the streets.
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- - and i would, i would hear about the timberlakes
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- And i would hear about tim timberlake,
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- And his name was very influential in the street.
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- But we hadn't met until after we were both in the kingdom.
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- - yeah.
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- - and you were preaching at vous church.
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- - absolutely.
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- - for our brother rich wilkerson.
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- - yeah, that's right.
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- - and then you was up there preaching,
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- And i tried to go see you afterwards.
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- They said, you can't come back here.
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- (all laughing)
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- - it was funny, he was trying to come see me,
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- But before the service started.
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- - we were all in this big huddle.
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- - yeah.
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- - and god gave me a prophetic word for him.
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- And so after the service,
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- I'm looking for him and he's looking for me,
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- But they had to rush me off to go to another location.
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- - yeah.
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- And so i didn't see him,
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- But what ended up happening was
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- We found each other on social media,
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- And then i dropped the prophetic word in his direct message.
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- - oh my goodness.
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- - what was the theme of it?
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- Wat was god saying to you to tell?
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- - i remember specifically.
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- And so the word god gave me was
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- Prepare your team and prepare yourself.
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- Prepare your nets,
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- Because god is gonna send so many fish
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- That it breaks your net.
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- - wow.
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- - and that was in 2022.
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- - wow. - my goodness.
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- - in january, 2023,
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- Changed the name.
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- - yeah.
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- And i remember when tim got that word,
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- We were just coming outta covid.
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- We had lost everything,
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- Our building, our staff, everything.
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- And we had just come outta covid.
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- And i was preaching to a empty room with 183 disciples
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- In that room that sat 700.
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- And i would just get up
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- And i would preach to that empty room with all of my heart,
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- And i would drive home in tears the hallway way.
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- But tim gave me that word, you know?
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- And would never imagine that two and a half years later,
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- Everything that tim spoke by the spirit has come to pass.
- 00:09:48.711 --> 00:09:51.814
- - amen.
- 00:09:51.814 --> 00:09:52.748
- - and more, you know, i look at,
- 00:09:52.748 --> 00:09:54.316
- We've seen great men and women of god.
- 00:09:54.316 --> 00:09:56.519
- - yeah.
- 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:57.620
- - you know, we've been around it.
- 00:09:57.620 --> 00:10:00.389
- And you know when someone has a unique and special touch
- 00:10:00.389 --> 00:10:04.927
- From the holy spirit,
- 00:10:04.927 --> 00:10:06.729
- Both phil and his wife lena,
- 00:10:06.729 --> 00:10:08.731
- Just have a unique and special touch from the holy spirit
- 00:10:08.731 --> 00:10:12.401
- That god just has his hand all over.
- 00:10:12.401 --> 00:10:16.038
- And it's something to be said
- 00:10:16.038 --> 00:10:18.274
- When your church grows faster than your capacity
- 00:10:18.274 --> 00:10:22.311
- To host the people in a building.
- 00:10:23.045 --> 00:10:24.680
- So they got kicked out of their school,
- 00:10:24.680 --> 00:10:26.749
- And now they're in a new facility,
- 00:10:26.749 --> 00:10:29.185
- And that facility is quickly growing too small.
- 00:10:29.185 --> 00:10:32.988
- And whenever you can gather over 40,000 people for prayer,
- 00:10:32.988 --> 00:10:38.260
- That is a grace and a favor,
- 00:10:38.861 --> 00:10:41.230
- And an anointing
- 00:10:41.230 --> 00:10:42.965
- That needs to be looked at and say,
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- Okay, god, whatever you're doing in their life,
- 00:10:46.035 --> 00:10:51.273
- Would you just allow us
- 00:10:51.774 --> 00:10:53.309
- To be a part of that anointing, that gifting and that grace.
- 00:10:53.309 --> 00:10:58.047
- - let me,
- 00:10:58.047 --> 00:10:59.315
- I love the fact that i've got a couple of
- 00:10:59.315 --> 00:11:02.218
- Street preachers sitting here, you know?
- 00:11:03.018 --> 00:11:05.988
- You gotta gimme a little bit of you on the street.
- 00:11:05.988 --> 00:11:08.491
- We got a little bit of him on the street.
- 00:11:08.491 --> 00:11:10.559
- What was your problem?
- 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:11.527
- You had a great mom and daddy.
- 00:11:11.527 --> 00:11:13.429
- - great mom and dad,
- 00:11:13.429 --> 00:11:14.697
- And you all know they hosted this show.
- 00:11:14.697 --> 00:11:17.500
- And when my father got sick, i was 12 years old
- 00:11:17.500 --> 00:11:21.337
- And just got angry with god.
- 00:11:21.337 --> 00:11:22.772
- Completely lost faith in god's ability.
- 00:11:22.772 --> 00:11:25.875
- My faith was not anchored in god,
- 00:11:25.875 --> 00:11:27.943
- My faith was anchored in what he could do.
- 00:11:27.943 --> 00:11:29.812
- - wow.
- 00:11:29.812 --> 00:11:31.313
- - and so when he did not do what i expected him to do,
- 00:11:31.313 --> 00:11:33.649
- My faith was rocked.
- 00:11:33.649 --> 00:11:35.251
- And so i turned to the streets
- 00:11:35.251 --> 00:11:36.886
- Lived a lifestyle that was completely contrary
- 00:11:36.886 --> 00:11:39.421
- To what they had showed and what they had displayed.
- 00:11:39.421 --> 00:11:42.057
- And as they're right here,
- 00:11:42.057 --> 00:11:43.225
- Ministering to thousands of people,
- 00:11:43.225 --> 00:11:44.994
- And they're hosting praise,
- 00:11:44.994 --> 00:11:46.428
- And they're on the road traveling
- 00:11:46.428 --> 00:11:48.197
- And carrying the gospel of jesus christ,
- 00:11:48.197 --> 00:11:50.800
- I am becoming a professional sinner.
- 00:11:50.800 --> 00:11:52.902
- I am a helly.
- 00:11:52.902 --> 00:11:53.836
- And i am hell on wheels.
- 00:11:53.836 --> 00:11:55.704
- And the thing that i loved about my parents is
- 00:11:55.704 --> 00:11:59.875
- They loved me back into the kingdom of god jesus.
- 00:11:59.875 --> 00:12:02.645
- - isn't that beautiful?
- 00:12:02.645 --> 00:12:03.746
- - and no matter how far i strayed,
- 00:12:03.746 --> 00:12:06.115
- It was like i could not run fast enough,
- 00:12:06.115 --> 00:12:08.551
- I could not run far enough.
- 00:12:08.551 --> 00:12:10.386
- I could not do anything that would cause them
- 00:12:10.386 --> 00:12:14.089
- To stop being the reflection of jesus christ
- 00:12:14.089 --> 00:12:16.158
- That loved me back into the kingdom of god.
- 00:12:16.158 --> 00:12:18.727
- - that's beautiful.
- 00:12:18.727 --> 00:12:19.995
- - and so, one of my greatest disappointments
- 00:12:19.995 --> 00:12:21.964
- Is that my dad never saw it.
- 00:12:21.964 --> 00:12:23.999
- My mom did, but my dad never saw it.
- 00:12:24.800 --> 00:12:27.436
- - and so now- - he sees it now.
- 00:12:27.436 --> 00:12:29.738
- - he he definitely does.
- 00:12:29.738 --> 00:12:30.973
- And me and phil were talking about this
- 00:12:30.973 --> 00:12:33.876
- On monday after access.
- 00:12:33.876 --> 00:12:35.945
- I was there, i was in the room
- 00:12:35.945 --> 00:12:37.980
- And i was in that room,
- 00:12:37.980 --> 00:12:39.315
- That big old room, over 20,000 people.
- 00:12:39.315 --> 00:12:41.784
- And i said, "phil, you're dead, man,
- 00:12:41.784 --> 00:12:47.056
- Must be so proud."
- 00:12:47.489 --> 00:12:49.391
- And i don't know where your theology lays on this,
- 00:12:49.391 --> 00:12:53.262
- But i believe god gives him the opportunity
- 00:12:53.262 --> 00:12:56.699
- Just to peek over,
- 00:12:56.699 --> 00:12:57.967
- Just to glimpse, just to view, just to spectate.
- 00:12:58.901 --> 00:13:02.338
- - absolutely. - look at my son.
- 00:13:02.338 --> 00:13:03.939
- - yeah.
- 00:13:03.939 --> 00:13:05.307
- - and the obedience, the sacrifice, the dedication.
- 00:13:05.307 --> 00:13:07.376
- And i think about my dad
- 00:13:07.376 --> 00:13:09.345
- And just what he must be thinking
- 00:13:09.345 --> 00:13:11.513
- And your parents and what they must be thinking.
- 00:13:11.513 --> 00:13:14.617
- And it's a humbling thought to think
- 00:13:14.617 --> 00:13:17.419
- We're standing on their shoulders
- 00:13:17.419 --> 00:13:18.921
- And walking in the footprints
- 00:13:18.921 --> 00:13:20.256
- That they've carved out for us.
- 00:13:20.256 --> 00:13:21.423
- - yeah. - beautiful.
- 00:13:21.423 --> 00:13:22.691
- - and the pathway to get there was tough,
- 00:13:22.691 --> 00:13:24.793
- But it was meaningful.
- 00:13:24.793 --> 00:13:26.128
- - let me put a little pressure on you guys.
- 00:13:26.128 --> 00:13:28.697
- - you're preachers, you're used to this.
- 00:13:29.565 --> 00:13:30.833
- I like to kind of put a little pressure.
- 00:13:30.833 --> 00:13:32.501
- Lori and i, this is a big old studio, right?
- 00:13:32.501 --> 00:13:35.371
- So lori and i were way off back in the back here
- 00:13:35.371 --> 00:13:39.008
- Not long ago when it was just steel studs, okay?
- 00:13:39.008 --> 00:13:43.979
- So we were walking through this.
- 00:13:43.979 --> 00:13:47.383
- And i had the thought that all those years ago,
- 00:13:47.383 --> 00:13:52.254
- Let's call it tbn gen 1, okay?
- 00:13:52.254 --> 00:13:55.457
- My mom and dad ordered a lot of steel, a lot of concrete,
- 00:13:55.457 --> 00:13:59.428
- But they had to form it into a foundation and a tower
- 00:13:59.428 --> 00:14:02.998
- Because they had to build the distribution system.
- 00:14:02.998 --> 00:14:06.568
- So they were building, you know, first la, then phoenix,
- 00:14:07.703 --> 00:14:10.839
- Then miami was station number three, then oklahoma,
- 00:14:10.839 --> 00:14:13.642
- Then new york city.
- 00:14:13.642 --> 00:14:15.144
- So we started buying a lot of tv stations
- 00:14:15.144 --> 00:14:19.114
- And building them.
- 00:14:19.114 --> 00:14:20.649
- So my mom and dad dealt with concrete and steel, okay?
- 00:14:20.649 --> 00:14:25.154
- But mainly for distribution.
- 00:14:25.154 --> 00:14:27.856
- Well, today, as we sit here, tbn is now,
- 00:14:27.856 --> 00:14:33.095
- You know, basically stewarding over 65
- 00:14:33.929 --> 00:14:35.597
- Full power tv stations,
- 00:14:35.597 --> 00:14:37.132
- And with the internet that the world built,
- 00:14:37.132 --> 00:14:41.003
- You're connected to virtually every large
- 00:14:41.003 --> 00:14:43.038
- And small device on earth.
- 00:14:43.038 --> 00:14:44.673
- So, we're not spending any money building anything
- 00:14:44.673 --> 00:14:48.143
- For distribution anymore.
- 00:14:48.143 --> 00:14:49.979
- You know what we have to do now,
- 00:14:49.979 --> 00:14:52.081
- Lori and i ordered a bunch of steel and concrete,
- 00:14:52.081 --> 00:14:54.416
- But we shaped it into this room.
- 00:14:54.416 --> 00:14:56.885
- And now we got cameras and we got lights.
- 00:14:56.885 --> 00:15:00.422
- A lot of lights in this room.
- 00:15:00.422 --> 00:15:01.757
- A lot of cameras.
- 00:15:01.757 --> 00:15:02.591
- You both look good.
- 00:15:02.591 --> 00:15:03.425
- You sound good.
- 00:15:03.425 --> 00:15:05.060
- We got mics on that working.
- 00:15:05.060 --> 00:15:06.729
- So now we have to say to ourselves, we're not having
- 00:15:06.729 --> 00:15:10.866
- To build the distribution system.
- 00:15:10.866 --> 00:15:13.102
- Now it's all up to us. what are you gonna say?
- 00:15:13.102 --> 00:15:16.338
- So all those years ago when you were watching "praise"
- 00:15:17.439 --> 00:15:20.776
- Back in the, you know, early days of tbn, 2000s,
- 00:15:20.776 --> 00:15:26.081
- And you were saying, man, what would it feel like
- 00:15:27.082 --> 00:15:28.917
- To be sitting, you know, on that set?
- 00:15:28.917 --> 00:15:31.954
- Okay, well now you're here.
- 00:15:31.954 --> 00:15:33.455
- Now you're here.
- 00:15:33.455 --> 00:15:34.623
- And now it's up to us to,
- 00:15:34.623 --> 00:15:36.158
- Now what are we gonna say, okay?
- 00:15:36.158 --> 00:15:38.527
- What are you gonna say?
- 00:15:38.527 --> 00:15:40.462
- So we used to just kind of make it real simple.
- 00:15:40.462 --> 00:15:43.332
- Lift up the name of jesus,
- 00:15:43.332 --> 00:15:44.833
- And he draws men of himself.
- 00:15:44.833 --> 00:15:46.668
- So why don't you, if you're a street preacher,
- 00:15:46.668 --> 00:15:49.471
- Why don't you prove that a little bit
- 00:15:49.471 --> 00:15:50.906
- And give us a little something-something,
- 00:15:50.906 --> 00:15:53.475
- Tag team off each other.
- 00:15:53.475 --> 00:15:55.177
- What do we need to hear?
- 00:15:55.177 --> 00:15:56.412
- What message does our audience need
- 00:15:56.412 --> 00:15:58.747
- To hear right here, right now?
- 00:15:58.747 --> 00:16:01.283
- You have their full attention.
- 00:16:01.283 --> 00:16:03.252
- - i think.
- 00:16:03.252 --> 00:16:04.520
- I think one of the most important things
- 00:16:04.520 --> 00:16:05.788
- That the generation needs to hear right now,
- 00:16:05.788 --> 00:16:07.689
- Right, is that all of us are dealing
- 00:16:07.689 --> 00:16:09.391
- With the same human suffering,
- 00:16:09.391 --> 00:16:11.427
- And we all have the same sickness,
- 00:16:11.427 --> 00:16:12.795
- Which is our sinful nature.
- 00:16:12.795 --> 00:16:14.797
- And as a result of that, we see the brokenness
- 00:16:14.797 --> 00:16:16.799
- And depravity of human beings from people being killed
- 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:20.035
- On national television and all the things we see right now.
- 00:16:20.035 --> 00:16:24.506
- And i think one of the things that we all need to hear
- 00:16:24.506 --> 00:16:26.742
- Is that politics is not gonna fix
- 00:16:26.742 --> 00:16:29.211
- The brokenness of humanity.
- 00:16:29.211 --> 00:16:31.346
- You know, presidents are not gonna fix
- 00:16:31.346 --> 00:16:33.148
- The brokenness of humanity.
- 00:16:33.148 --> 00:16:34.917
- Policies are not gonna fix the brokenness of humanity.
- 00:16:34.917 --> 00:16:37.953
- There is one thing that we all need,
- 00:16:37.953 --> 00:16:40.122
- No matter what continent we are
- 00:16:40.122 --> 00:16:41.657
- And what we look like, what our skin color is,
- 00:16:41.657 --> 00:16:43.392
- That's gonna fix the brokenness of humanity.
- 00:16:43.392 --> 00:16:45.227
- And that is a deep, intimate, personal relationship
- 00:16:45.227 --> 00:16:48.263
- With the lord jesus christ.
- 00:16:48.263 --> 00:16:50.065
- He is the answer to all of humanity's problems.
- 00:16:50.065 --> 00:16:53.235
- And i think one of the things that we need to recognize
- 00:16:53.235 --> 00:16:55.337
- Is that there is something in man that's trying
- 00:16:55.337 --> 00:16:57.172
- To create utopia here.
- 00:16:57.172 --> 00:16:58.974
- And they're falling short.
- 00:16:58.974 --> 00:17:00.509
- They're trying to build castles here that are made of sand.
- 00:17:00.509 --> 00:17:03.545
- They're gonna wash away on the seashore of time.
- 00:17:03.545 --> 00:17:05.981
- And that the ultimate answer to all
- 00:17:05.981 --> 00:17:08.450
- Of our suffering right now, it is maranatha.
- 00:17:08.450 --> 00:17:10.986
- It is an intimate relationship with christ.
- 00:17:10.986 --> 00:17:12.821
- Now, it has come quickly, lord jesus.
- 00:17:12.821 --> 00:17:15.457
- He is the one that's gonna fix all of this mess we are in.
- 00:17:15.457 --> 00:17:19.695
- And i think every human being on the planet needs to hear
- 00:17:19.695 --> 00:17:22.397
- That he is the answer.
- 00:17:22.397 --> 00:17:24.266
- He is the fix.
- 00:17:24.266 --> 00:17:25.534
- He is the central piece we need right now
- 00:17:25.534 --> 00:17:27.202
- For all of our brokenness.
- 00:17:27.202 --> 00:17:28.604
- If there's anything i would leave with our audience,
- 00:17:28.604 --> 00:17:30.606
- It would be that.
- 00:17:30.606 --> 00:17:31.940
- And that i would encourage the generation
- 00:17:31.940 --> 00:17:33.609
- That i lead, mostly millennials
- 00:17:33.609 --> 00:17:35.244
- And gen zs, who are radically individualistic and ambitious.
- 00:17:35.244 --> 00:17:40.382
- There is nothing they're gonna pursue,
- 00:17:41.183 --> 00:17:43.585
- No mountain they're gonna climb,
- 00:17:43.585 --> 00:17:44.720
- Nothing, they're gonna get to the top
- 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:46.088
- And still gonna be empty
- 00:17:46.088 --> 00:17:47.923
- And realize that the thing that we need more than anything
- 00:17:47.923 --> 00:17:50.058
- Right now is christ, right?
- 00:17:50.058 --> 00:17:52.361
- And if we don't get that message to the world,
- 00:17:52.361 --> 00:17:54.496
- I don't know what message we're gonna bring to them.
- 00:17:54.496 --> 00:17:56.832
- - jim?
- 00:17:56.832 --> 00:17:57.933
- - the decisions to follow christ,
- 00:17:57.933 --> 00:18:00.702
- As phil was saying.
- 00:18:00.702 --> 00:18:02.204
- One of the things that i've really learned
- 00:18:02.204 --> 00:18:05.841
- Over the course of leadership
- 00:18:05.841 --> 00:18:09.144
- And just the hardship that i've endured
- 00:18:09.144 --> 00:18:11.880
- And encountered is that when we're born,
- 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.150
- We're born looking like our parents,
- 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:16.919
- But we die looking like our decisions.
- 00:18:16.919 --> 00:18:19.555
- And when we decide the wrong things,
- 00:18:19.555 --> 00:18:22.424
- Our lives are a reflection of those decisions.
- 00:18:22.424 --> 00:18:24.893
- When we decide the right things,
- 00:18:24.893 --> 00:18:27.329
- Our life is a reflection of those.
- 00:18:27.329 --> 00:18:29.264
- - decisions, and it doesn't mean that there will be
- 00:18:30.299 --> 00:18:31.800
- An easy road or an easy path, but it does mean
- 00:18:31.800 --> 00:18:35.204
- That on these roads that god has us on,
- 00:18:35.204 --> 00:18:37.940
- When we encounter difficulty and challenges
- 00:18:37.940 --> 00:18:40.342
- And hurdles and bumps, he's with us along the way,
- 00:18:40.342 --> 00:18:44.112
- And so we don't have to walk it out,
- 00:18:44.112 --> 00:18:45.414
- And so i think we see a society and a culture
- 00:18:45.414 --> 00:18:49.751
- That's grasping for things. - yes.
- 00:18:49.751 --> 00:18:52.087
- - outside of jesus. - yes.
- 00:18:52.087 --> 00:18:53.822
- - that's grasping for popularity, grasping
- 00:18:53.822 --> 00:18:56.458
- For influence,
- 00:18:56.458 --> 00:18:57.526
- Grasping for affirmation, grasping for provision,
- 00:18:57.526 --> 00:19:01.029
- And all of these things separate from jesus
- 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:03.899
- As a prophecy to us that it won't be in our future,
- 00:19:03.899 --> 00:19:06.935
- And so when we make jesus the priority,
- 00:19:06.935 --> 00:19:10.439
- When we make him the central focus,
- 00:19:10.439 --> 00:19:12.140
- It allows us to anchor our hope in him.
- 00:19:12.140 --> 00:19:15.844
- Not in just what he can do but in him.
- 00:19:15.844 --> 00:19:17.813
- Not in what's in his hand but in him,
- 00:19:17.813 --> 00:19:20.449
- And when we do that, we see, and we understand,
- 00:19:20.449 --> 00:19:24.119
- And we discover a life and a relationship
- 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:27.456
- That goes well beyond one that we could
- 00:19:27.456 --> 00:19:29.358
- Ever provide for ourself and so.
- 00:19:29.358 --> 00:19:30.993
- - pastor phil, earlier, you were saying
- 00:19:30.993 --> 00:19:33.028
- Your mom and dad were good people.
- 00:19:33.028 --> 00:19:36.298
- - you saw them. - yup.
- 00:19:36.298 --> 00:19:37.466
- - kind of doing the right thing.
- 00:19:37.466 --> 00:19:39.401
- What caused you to go to the streets
- 00:19:40.202 --> 00:19:44.139
- If your mom and daddy were kinda
- 00:19:44.773 --> 00:19:47.876
- Doing some of the normal stuff and good stuff?
- 00:19:47.876 --> 00:19:50.946
- - yeah, i wanna honor my parents,
- 00:19:50.946 --> 00:19:52.981
- One in heaven and one on earth.
- 00:19:52.981 --> 00:19:54.950
- They were godly men and women.
- 00:19:54.950 --> 00:19:56.885
- My mother's still here.
- 00:19:56.885 --> 00:19:58.487
- Read the scriptures.
- 00:19:58.487 --> 00:19:59.521
- They led a ministry.
- 00:19:59.521 --> 00:20:00.555
- I heard them pray.
- 00:20:00.555 --> 00:20:02.124
- I think, for me, i was just searching
- 00:20:02.124 --> 00:20:04.059
- For a sense of community and belonging,
- 00:20:04.059 --> 00:20:06.662
- And i found that in the street, amongst men in the street,
- 00:20:06.662 --> 00:20:10.032
- And that environment i grew up in,
- 00:20:10.032 --> 00:20:12.200
- In that urban environment,
- 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:13.402
- Queens had a stronghold on my life,
- 00:20:13.402 --> 00:20:15.837
- And so that's what it was for me.
- 00:20:15.837 --> 00:20:17.172
- I was just searching for acceptance,
- 00:20:17.172 --> 00:20:18.707
- And i found that in the street,
- 00:20:18.707 --> 00:20:20.575
- But i still had honor and reverence from my parents.
- 00:20:20.575 --> 00:20:22.644
- I would never bring any of that into my home,
- 00:20:22.644 --> 00:20:24.813
- And so when i came into my home,
- 00:20:24.813 --> 00:20:26.181
- That all stayed at the threshold of the door.
- 00:20:26.181 --> 00:20:27.749
- In fact, they had no idea of the life i was living
- 00:20:27.749 --> 00:20:30.619
- Until i was in my 20s and i had a chance to sit down
- 00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:32.821
- With my mom and my dad. - yeah.
- 00:20:32.821 --> 00:20:34.356
- - and tell them this is the way that i lived,
- 00:20:34.356 --> 00:20:36.425
- And my mother wept, you know?
- 00:20:36.425 --> 00:20:38.193
- And she wept, and she never knew the things i was doing,
- 00:20:38.193 --> 00:20:40.929
- But my parents were great,
- 00:20:40.929 --> 00:20:42.531
- But it was just a searching for belonging,
- 00:20:42.531 --> 00:20:44.666
- And i just found that in the street.
- 00:20:44.666 --> 00:20:46.635
- - are we seeing a change in that?
- 00:20:46.635 --> 00:20:48.970
- - i think so.
- 00:20:48.970 --> 00:20:50.238
- I think people are homogenous by nature.
- 00:20:50.238 --> 00:20:54.943
- They want to be a part of groups that make them feel
- 00:20:54.943 --> 00:20:57.212
- A sense of community and familiarity,
- 00:20:57.212 --> 00:20:59.214
- And so i think there was a longing,
- 00:20:59.214 --> 00:21:01.717
- And i think even right now,
- 00:21:01.717 --> 00:21:03.485
- There is a generation seeking for that,
- 00:21:03.485 --> 00:21:05.387
- And i think they're finding that
- 00:21:05.387 --> 00:21:06.888
- Amongst other believers in christ.
- 00:21:06.888 --> 00:21:09.791
- I think there is a...
- 00:21:09.791 --> 00:21:11.026
- That's how social media has exploded.
- 00:21:11.026 --> 00:21:13.128
- Even though at the same time, it has made us less social.
- 00:21:13.128 --> 00:21:15.497
- - uh-hmm. - you know?
- 00:21:15.497 --> 00:21:16.498
- It's like we know how to post,
- 00:21:16.498 --> 00:21:17.499
- But we can't pick up the phone
- 00:21:17.499 --> 00:21:18.700
- And make a phone call. - that's right.
- 00:21:18.700 --> 00:21:19.468
- - yeah. - right?
- 00:21:19.468 --> 00:21:20.836
- But i just think there was an emptiness there
- 00:21:20.836 --> 00:21:22.137
- I was searching for and just for community,
- 00:21:22.137 --> 00:21:24.673
- And i just found that brothers in the street.
- 00:21:24.673 --> 00:21:27.242
- - uh-hmm. - yeah.
- 00:21:27.242 --> 00:21:28.710
- - okay, over your shoulder, i'm looking at this
- 00:21:28.710 --> 00:21:31.012
- Big sign that says street preachers.
- 00:21:31.012 --> 00:21:33.148
- - yeah. - so you guys.
- 00:21:33.148 --> 00:21:34.783
- - [pastor phil] yeah.
- 00:21:34.783 --> 00:21:36.151
- - you've got a bible sitting there next to you.
- 00:21:36.151 --> 00:21:37.886
- - yeah.
- 00:21:37.886 --> 00:21:39.187
- - why don't you crack it open
- 00:21:39.187 --> 00:21:40.622
- And give us a little something that maybe you're gonna
- 00:21:40.622 --> 00:21:44.259
- Use next sunday or last sunday or, you know,
- 00:21:44.259 --> 00:21:47.262
- Just preach. (guests laugh)
- 00:21:47.262 --> 00:21:48.497
- Give me a little something, something here.
- 00:21:48.497 --> 00:21:50.265
- (people laugh)
- 00:21:50.265 --> 00:21:53.135
- - well, they don't know what street preachers is.
- 00:21:53.135 --> 00:21:54.669
- You should tell (indistinct). - yeah, tell us that.
- 00:21:54.669 --> 00:21:56.304
- - yeah, so street preachers is a cry in the wilderness
- 00:21:56.304 --> 00:22:01.576
- From two brothers that
- 00:22:02.077 --> 00:22:04.846
- Desire to see
- 00:22:04.846 --> 00:22:06.915
- God's people wake up
- 00:22:07.382 --> 00:22:09.284
- And recognize that the kingdom of god is at hand,
- 00:22:09.284 --> 00:22:12.454
- And like ezekiel, in the old testament,
- 00:22:12.454 --> 00:22:15.323
- Asking people, demanding people, urging people
- 00:22:15.323 --> 00:22:18.527
- To return back to the heart of the father,
- 00:22:18.527 --> 00:22:20.729
- And in the new testament, john the baptist,
- 00:22:20.729 --> 00:22:23.131
- In the streets screaming,
- 00:22:23.131 --> 00:22:24.433
- "repent for the kingdom of god is at hand."
- 00:22:24.433 --> 00:22:26.601
- That that's our desire that god would use us
- 00:22:26.601 --> 00:22:29.504
- In a format and in a way that would draw
- 00:22:29.504 --> 00:22:32.541
- People back to his heart, that would really wake people up
- 00:22:32.541 --> 00:22:37.112
- And bring them back to loving the father
- 00:22:37.112 --> 00:22:40.482
- And falling back in love
- 00:22:40.482 --> 00:22:43.018
- With their first love, jesus christ,
- 00:22:43.018 --> 00:22:45.387
- And so that's what we aspire to do,
- 00:22:45.387 --> 00:22:47.122
- You know, two imperfect guys.
- 00:22:47.122 --> 00:22:49.724
- - so you guys are doing a podcast.
- 00:22:49.724 --> 00:22:51.259
- - just a podcast. - street preachers podcast.
- 00:22:51.259 --> 00:22:52.494
- - right now, we're on tour.
- 00:22:52.494 --> 00:22:54.362
- - yeah. - and...
- 00:22:54.362 --> 00:22:55.664
- - you're getting ready to have church in here.
- 00:22:55.664 --> 00:22:56.832
- - that's right. - in the next studio.
- 00:22:56.832 --> 00:22:58.133
- - we need to have church in here, that's right.
- 00:22:58.133 --> 00:22:59.234
- - i love it. - and just taking
- 00:22:59.234 --> 00:23:00.402
- What god has placed on our heart.
- 00:23:00.402 --> 00:23:01.603
- - yeah. - to cities
- 00:23:01.603 --> 00:23:03.805
- Here in the states first, and then we'll see
- 00:23:03.805 --> 00:23:05.740
- Kind of where god takes it next.
- 00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:06.875
- - beautiful. - yeah, so there's a...
- 00:23:06.875 --> 00:23:08.977
- There's another pastor phil.
- 00:23:08.977 --> 00:23:10.679
- There's another pastor phil to be.
- 00:23:10.679 --> 00:23:14.483
- - yeah. - flipping on the channel,
- 00:23:15.217 --> 00:23:16.685
- Looking at you. - yeah.
- 00:23:16.685 --> 00:23:18.086
- - saying, "what would it be like to be there?"
- 00:23:18.086 --> 00:23:20.322
- - mm. - wow.
- 00:23:20.322 --> 00:23:21.156
- - see, so there's...
- 00:23:21.156 --> 00:23:22.123
- And they're watching, you know,
- 00:23:22.123 --> 00:23:23.658
- Anywhere in the world. - yeah.
- 00:23:23.658 --> 00:23:24.659
- - anywhere there's electricity,
- 00:23:24.659 --> 00:23:25.961
- They're watching. - yeah, yeah.
- 00:23:25.961 --> 00:23:28.263
- - so hit us with something, don't-
- 00:23:28.263 --> 00:23:31.533
- - don't get on the couch and don't preach to us.
- 00:23:31.533 --> 00:23:33.835
- So you gotta, you can't leave here-
- 00:23:33.835 --> 00:23:36.004
- - that's right.
- 00:23:36.004 --> 00:23:37.172
- - until you hit us with a little somethin' somethin'.
- 00:23:37.172 --> 00:23:38.673
- Okay? - you're not going anywhere.
- 00:23:38.673 --> 00:23:40.041
- I'm gonna, i'm gonna hold you down.
- 00:23:40.041 --> 00:23:41.943
- - yeah. - okay.
- 00:23:41.943 --> 00:23:42.777
- So you got your bible.
- 00:23:42.777 --> 00:23:44.179
- - yeah. - do your thing.
- 00:23:44.179 --> 00:23:45.413
- - i'll say two things.
- 00:23:45.413 --> 00:23:46.648
- I'll say to the, to the,
- 00:23:46.648 --> 00:23:48.116
- The young man or the young sister watching right now,
- 00:23:48.116 --> 00:23:51.052
- Who's been watching tbn,
- 00:23:51.052 --> 00:23:52.521
- And dreaming about what it would be like
- 00:23:52.521 --> 00:23:54.856
- To sit on this couch.
- 00:23:54.856 --> 00:23:56.491
- I would say to them,
- 00:23:56.491 --> 00:23:57.692
- "don't seek platforms. seek altars."
- 00:23:57.692 --> 00:23:59.361
- - [matt] mm. - mm.
- 00:23:59.361 --> 00:24:00.595
- - you know. "develop a deep, intimate,
- 00:24:00.595 --> 00:24:01.997
- Personal relationship with the lord jesus christ.
- 00:24:01.997 --> 00:24:03.999
- And just be obedient."
- 00:24:03.999 --> 00:24:05.400
- - [laurie] yeah. - and be faithful. right?
- 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:07.369
- That the goal is not to sit on the couch.
- 00:24:07.369 --> 00:24:09.204
- The goal is to just be faithful.
- 00:24:09.204 --> 00:24:10.705
- - [matt] hmm. - and that faithfulness
- 00:24:10.705 --> 00:24:11.940
- Leads you to the couch,
- 00:24:11.940 --> 00:24:13.241
- And that is through the glory of christ.
- 00:24:13.241 --> 00:24:14.409
- - yeah, amen.
- 00:24:14.409 --> 00:24:15.544
- - and i will say to the generation
- 00:24:15.544 --> 00:24:16.778
- That i think what we need right now,
- 00:24:16.778 --> 00:24:18.113
- More than anything, is the message of jude.
- 00:24:18.113 --> 00:24:20.015
- Right? - yeah.
- 00:24:20.015 --> 00:24:21.283
- - i think we need the message of jude.
- 00:24:21.283 --> 00:24:22.951
- A very neglected,
- 00:24:22.951 --> 00:24:24.185
- But yet important letter tucked away
- 00:24:24.185 --> 00:24:25.787
- In the back of the scriptures, - mm-hmm.
- 00:24:25.787 --> 00:24:27.222
- - that i think is critical for our times.
- 00:24:27.222 --> 00:24:29.424
- Right now as we're talking right here
- 00:24:29.424 --> 00:24:31.459
- On this tbn couch,
- 00:24:31.459 --> 00:24:33.061
- I feel like there is warfare against christianity
- 00:24:33.061 --> 00:24:35.730
- And against the brothers and sisters all around the world.
- 00:24:35.730 --> 00:24:38.400
- Our brothers and sisters are being put to death
- 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:40.302
- And persecuted all around the world.
- 00:24:40.302 --> 00:24:42.437
- And there is a fight right now
- 00:24:42.437 --> 00:24:43.605
- For the voice of the faithful.
- 00:24:43.605 --> 00:24:45.307
- And i would say more than ever,
- 00:24:45.307 --> 00:24:46.608
- What we need right now is the message of jude,
- 00:24:46.608 --> 00:24:49.010
- The trumpet of jude,
- 00:24:49.010 --> 00:24:50.478
- That says to the people, beloved,
- 00:24:50.478 --> 00:24:52.180
- Although i was very eager to write
- 00:24:52.180 --> 00:24:53.715
- To you about our common salvation,
- 00:24:53.715 --> 00:24:55.917
- I found it necessary to write to you appealing,
- 00:24:55.917 --> 00:24:59.154
- That we should contend for the faith
- 00:24:59.154 --> 00:25:00.655
- That was once and for all delivered to us.
- 00:25:00.655 --> 00:25:02.958
- Your parents handed you the faith,
- 00:25:02.958 --> 00:25:05.327
- Your parents handed you the faith.
- 00:25:05.327 --> 00:25:06.528
- Our baton came down to us in blood.
- 00:25:06.528 --> 00:25:09.230
- And i wanna say to the generation watching right now,
- 00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:11.266
- If we don't take a stand for christianity now,
- 00:25:11.266 --> 00:25:14.269
- What baton are we gonna hand off-
- 00:25:14.269 --> 00:25:15.870
- - [tim] that's right. - to the generation
- 00:25:15.870 --> 00:25:16.972
- Coming behind us.
- 00:25:16.972 --> 00:25:17.939
- I think there needs to be a call
- 00:25:17.939 --> 00:25:19.708
- To the entire body of christ more than ever before.
- 00:25:19.708 --> 00:25:22.510
- We need to take a stand for the faith,
- 00:25:22.510 --> 00:25:24.813
- Both in culture and in our own hearts,
- 00:25:24.813 --> 00:25:27.582
- To stand for the lord jesus christ,
- 00:25:27.582 --> 00:25:29.150
- For the values of the kingdom,
- 00:25:29.150 --> 00:25:30.485
- The virtues of the kingdom,
- 00:25:30.485 --> 00:25:31.987
- And for the king of the kingdom.
- 00:25:31.987 --> 00:25:34.022
- And i feel like if we don't do that now,
- 00:25:34.022 --> 00:25:36.291
- And if we don't gear up for that now,
- 00:25:36.291 --> 00:25:38.193
- I'm afraid what we're gonna hand off
- 00:25:38.193 --> 00:25:39.861
- To my sons and daughters
- 00:25:39.861 --> 00:25:41.630
- In the generation that's coming up behind me.
- 00:25:41.630 --> 00:25:43.632
- That's my message to this generation.
- 00:25:43.632 --> 00:25:45.300
- Contend for the faith that was
- 00:25:45.300 --> 00:25:48.837
- Once for handed down to us.
- 00:25:48.837 --> 00:25:50.772
- - your turn.
- 00:25:50.772 --> 00:25:52.073
- - and do it boldly.
- 00:25:52.073 --> 00:25:53.842
- I was in england not too long ago,
- 00:25:53.842 --> 00:25:56.378
- And our driver was a muslim.
- 00:25:56.378 --> 00:25:59.781
- And he was boldly professing his faith to us.
- 00:25:59.781 --> 00:26:02.917
- And i asked him a question.
- 00:26:02.917 --> 00:26:04.452
- He said, "oh, you're a christian.
- 00:26:04.452 --> 00:26:06.087
- I said, "yes."
- 00:26:06.087 --> 00:26:07.055
- He said, "well, can i ask you
- 00:26:07.055 --> 00:26:08.390
- Some questions about your jesus?"
- 00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:11.092
- And i said, "sure."
- 00:26:11.092 --> 00:26:12.627
- And it was an hour long drive.
- 00:26:12.627 --> 00:26:14.295
- And we were driving, and he was riding,
- 00:26:14.295 --> 00:26:17.065
- And he was asking me and my wife these questions,
- 00:26:17.065 --> 00:26:19.668
- And i could see his wheels spinning.
- 00:26:19.668 --> 00:26:21.903
- And i was asking him questions.
- 00:26:21.903 --> 00:26:23.405
- - so powerful.
- 00:26:23.405 --> 00:26:24.673
- - and his wheels began to spin,
- 00:26:24.673 --> 00:26:26.174
- And the questions begin to slow down.
- 00:26:26.174 --> 00:26:28.510
- And he asked me, "continue to speak on this."
- 00:26:28.510 --> 00:26:30.578
- "can you clarify?"
- 00:26:30.578 --> 00:26:31.813
- "can you, can you help me with this?"
- 00:26:31.813 --> 00:26:33.348
- And i didn't beat him over the head with the hammer,
- 00:26:33.348 --> 00:26:36.551
- But i spoke boldly.
- 00:26:36.551 --> 00:26:37.686
- - [laurie] yeah. - and i spoke to him
- 00:26:37.686 --> 00:26:39.187
- What the spirit of god had placed on my heart.
- 00:26:39.187 --> 00:26:41.956
- And if we're not careful,
- 00:26:41.956 --> 00:26:44.025
- We'll allow people to try to influence us
- 00:26:44.025 --> 00:26:46.728
- From their perspective,
- 00:26:46.728 --> 00:26:48.129
- Because we don't stand in boldness.
- 00:26:48.129 --> 00:26:49.798
- - [tim] come on. - and i think that
- 00:26:49.798 --> 00:26:51.032
- This is the hour.
- 00:26:51.032 --> 00:26:52.067
- I think that we're in a season,
- 00:26:52.067 --> 00:26:53.468
- We're in a time now where
- 00:26:53.468 --> 00:26:55.704
- The canvas is clear for us to speak boldly.
- 00:26:55.704 --> 00:27:01.042
- No more timidity, no more holding back,
- 00:27:01.876 --> 00:27:03.211
- No more being reserved believers.
- 00:27:03.211 --> 00:27:06.181
- Scripture says, "come boldly to the throne of grace."
- 00:27:06.181 --> 00:27:08.850
- And so if we can go boldly to the throne of grace,
- 00:27:08.850 --> 00:27:11.352
- We need to boldly proclaim the gospel of jesus christ
- 00:27:11.352 --> 00:27:14.522
- Because of who he is,
- 00:27:14.522 --> 00:27:16.458
- And because of who he is transitioning us into becoming.
- 00:27:16.458 --> 00:27:20.195
- And so as we contend for that faith,
- 00:27:20.195 --> 00:27:22.530
- There's a couple of things
- 00:27:22.530 --> 00:27:23.465
- That we talk about all the time
- 00:27:23.465 --> 00:27:24.966
- As it pertains to contending.
- 00:27:24.966 --> 00:27:26.835
- There's a contending physically,
- 00:27:26.835 --> 00:27:28.937
- And then there's a contending spiritually.
- 00:27:28.937 --> 00:27:31.072
- I think we have to do both.
- 00:27:31.072 --> 00:27:32.373
- And i think we have to be ready,
- 00:27:32.373 --> 00:27:34.476
- And we have to be armed and prepared
- 00:27:34.476 --> 00:27:36.978
- With the gospel of jesus christ,
- 00:27:36.978 --> 00:27:39.314
- To have conversations that may be difficult,
- 00:27:39.314 --> 00:27:42.150
- That may be tough,
- 00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:43.752
- But are just oozing with the love of jesus christ.
- 00:27:43.752 --> 00:27:46.421
- - yeah. - to show the world
- 00:27:46.421 --> 00:27:47.989
- The reflection of grace,
- 00:27:47.989 --> 00:27:49.858
- And the glory of god.
- 00:27:49.858 --> 00:27:51.226
- - and matt, if i could add one more thing
- 00:27:51.226 --> 00:27:52.594
- I think is very important.
- 00:27:52.594 --> 00:27:53.695
- Like, we're in a beautiful studio,
- 00:27:53.695 --> 00:27:55.330
- And all around us i see clocks.
- 00:27:55.330 --> 00:27:57.098
- - [matt] mm-hmm. - and on my watch on my wrist
- 00:27:57.098 --> 00:27:59.234
- I got a watch.
- 00:27:59.234 --> 00:28:00.802
- And there's clocks on us right now counting down backwards.
- 00:28:00.802 --> 00:28:03.238
- - [matt] mm-hmm. - they're gonna hit zero,
- 00:28:03.238 --> 00:28:04.739
- And our time on the set is gonna be over.
- 00:28:04.739 --> 00:28:07.375
- And i wanna remind the world right now,
- 00:28:07.375 --> 00:28:09.043
- God has set a clock for humanity.
- 00:28:09.043 --> 00:28:09.878
- - that's right. come on.
- 00:28:09.878 --> 00:28:11.646
- - and it's counting down backwards.
- 00:28:11.646 --> 00:28:13.715
- And it's gonna hit zero.
- 00:28:13.715 --> 00:28:15.383
- And when it hits zero,
- 00:28:15.383 --> 00:28:16.518
- Everybody's fate is gonna be sealed.
- 00:28:16.518 --> 00:28:18.386
- And i just wanna make mention of that
- 00:28:18.386 --> 00:28:19.788
- Because i think people need to realize
- 00:28:19.788 --> 00:28:21.256
- That time is running out.
- 00:28:21.256 --> 00:28:22.824
- - right? and we have less time today
- 00:28:22.824 --> 00:28:24.359
- Before the return of christ than we did yesterday
- 00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.795
- Or the day before last year.
- 00:28:26.795 --> 00:28:28.630
- - and with tim and i, and we wanna do everything we can
- 00:28:28.630 --> 00:28:31.432
- To awaken the saint and to call the sinner to the cross
- 00:28:31.432 --> 00:28:35.103
- Before time has run out.
- 00:28:35.103 --> 00:28:36.704
- - what would have made a difference,
- 00:28:37.505 --> 00:28:41.075
- Pastor phil, in your life?
- 00:28:41.075 --> 00:28:43.578
- What would've made a difference?
- 00:28:44.212 --> 00:28:46.314
- What word from a street preacher,
- 00:28:46.314 --> 00:28:50.785
- When you were in the streets,
- 00:28:50.785 --> 00:28:53.221
- What would've gotten your attention?
- 00:28:53.221 --> 00:28:54.656
- What do you think you were missing?
- 00:28:54.656 --> 00:28:57.458
- You mentioned community as the reason
- 00:28:57.458 --> 00:28:59.661
- That you were out there.
- 00:28:59.661 --> 00:29:01.262
- You really wanted a crew or a team or a group, a community.
- 00:29:01.262 --> 00:29:06.034
- What was missing from your life?
- 00:29:06.668 --> 00:29:10.572
- What did you need to hear at that time?
- 00:29:10.572 --> 00:29:12.373
- What message to the street philip-
- 00:29:12.373 --> 00:29:17.178
- - yeah.
- 00:29:17.178 --> 00:29:18.513
- - do you think you were missing?
- 00:29:18.513 --> 00:29:20.448
- - i remember when i was a teenager,
- 00:29:20.448 --> 00:29:23.685
- Teachers in high school and security guard saying
- 00:29:24.686 --> 00:29:26.588
- I will never amount to nothing
- 00:29:26.588 --> 00:29:28.623
- And i never had hope beyond my nose,
- 00:29:28.623 --> 00:29:31.726
- I never had hope beyond the day,
- 00:29:31.726 --> 00:29:32.961
- I only lived for the day i was in.
- 00:29:32.961 --> 00:29:34.896
- For me, hope was just can i make it to the next day?
- 00:29:34.896 --> 00:29:37.298
- - wow. - i think if someone
- 00:29:37.298 --> 00:29:39.033
- In that time would've had enough love
- 00:29:39.033 --> 00:29:41.336
- To cast a vision for me of a better future,
- 00:29:42.237 --> 00:29:44.973
- Would've given me hope beyond this life,
- 00:29:45.840 --> 00:29:48.610
- And would've told me that there was a god in heaven
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- Who fashioned me in his image
- 00:29:50.945 --> 00:29:52.814
- And created me for a purpose beyond the street,
- 00:29:52.814 --> 00:29:55.917
- And would've communicated to me the gospel
- 00:29:55.917 --> 00:29:57.852
- In a way that i could understand,
- 00:29:57.852 --> 00:29:59.621
- And would've explained to me
- 00:29:59.621 --> 00:30:00.755
- About what would happen in eternal life,
- 00:30:00.755 --> 00:30:02.023
- Both for the believer and unbeliever,
- 00:30:02.023 --> 00:30:04.092
- That might've got my attention,
- 00:30:04.092 --> 00:30:05.860
- But nobody ever took the time to explain the gospel to me
- 00:30:05.860 --> 00:30:09.163
- Or to cast a vision for me beyond the day i was in,
- 00:30:09.163 --> 00:30:12.300
- And if someone would've done that,
- 00:30:12.300 --> 00:30:13.534
- I think probably i would've listened.
- 00:30:13.534 --> 00:30:15.637
- - tim, what would've gotten your attention
- 00:30:16.537 --> 00:30:19.307
- In the times where you were hurting?
- 00:30:19.307 --> 00:30:21.309
- Your dad was sick.
- 00:30:21.309 --> 00:30:23.244
- You saw god as only someone that if he's real,
- 00:30:23.244 --> 00:30:27.916
- He's gonna heal my dad. - yeah.
- 00:30:27.916 --> 00:30:29.584
- - what did you need to hear at that time?
- 00:30:29.584 --> 00:30:32.487
- - hear, i think, is a difficult one for me to answer.
- 00:30:33.554 --> 00:30:38.660
- I just needed to obey.
- 00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:41.296
- I knew what was the right thing to do.
- 00:30:42.130 --> 00:30:45.633
- - you knew right from wrong. - yeah.
- 00:30:45.633 --> 00:30:46.935
- - but i was just so rebellious.
- 00:30:46.935 --> 00:30:49.337
- I had my mind made up.
- 00:30:49.337 --> 00:30:51.306
- Whatever is the right thing to do,
- 00:30:51.306 --> 00:30:54.409
- I am going to go the opposite direction because i'm hurting,
- 00:30:54.409 --> 00:30:59.747
- And so the thing that brought me back was the love.
- 00:31:00.815 --> 00:31:03.551
- - love. - and the modeling
- 00:31:03.551 --> 00:31:06.421
- Of that love that jesus has, even yet in sin,
- 00:31:06.421 --> 00:31:11.759
- And so i wish that i was obedient
- 00:31:12.493 --> 00:31:15.129
- A little sooner than i was.
- 00:31:15.129 --> 00:31:16.564
- I wish that i turned and repented
- 00:31:16.564 --> 00:31:19.167
- And pursued my relationship with jesus christ
- 00:31:19.167 --> 00:31:22.103
- So that i didn't cause so much hurt and pain to my parents.
- 00:31:22.103 --> 00:31:27.408
- I wish that i started to love jesus for myself
- 00:31:28.343 --> 00:31:32.814
- And not love him for what he could do
- 00:31:33.581 --> 00:31:35.616
- Or what i saw him do through my parents.
- 00:31:35.616 --> 00:31:37.418
- I wish i had did that earlier,
- 00:31:37.418 --> 00:31:39.454
- And so for me it was just obedience
- 00:31:39.454 --> 00:31:41.389
- And making that decision to follow jesus christ earlier.
- 00:31:41.389 --> 00:31:45.593
- - that's good, bro. - yeah.
- 00:31:45.593 --> 00:31:47.395
- - philip anthony mitchell,
- 00:31:47.395 --> 00:31:49.364
- We used to refer to my dad as pfc.
- 00:31:50.098 --> 00:31:52.767
- You'd be pam.
- 00:31:52.767 --> 00:31:54.235
- - yeah, they call me that. - do they, pam?
- 00:31:54.235 --> 00:31:56.471
- I like that. - yeah.
- 00:31:56.471 --> 00:31:58.806
- - by the way, if i ever am gonna do a movie
- 00:31:58.806 --> 00:32:02.210
- And need somebody to stand in for shaquille o'neal,
- 00:32:02.210 --> 00:32:05.279
- I think you can do pretty good shaquille o'neal, you know?
- 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.649
- There's some- - mini shaquille o'neal.
- 00:32:08.649 --> 00:32:10.752
- - mini shaquille, yeah.
- 00:32:10.752 --> 00:32:12.020
- - there's some- - not tall enough.
- 00:32:12.020 --> 00:32:13.521
- (all laughing)
- 00:32:13.521 --> 00:32:16.224
- - so there's some characteristics of
- 00:32:16.224 --> 00:32:18.292
- The way you talk,
- 00:32:18.292 --> 00:32:19.227
- Some of your mannerisms,
- 00:32:19.227 --> 00:32:20.495
- Sometimes you remind me of shaquille o'neal,
- 00:32:20.495 --> 00:32:22.230
- That's kind of fun.
- 00:32:22.230 --> 00:32:24.165
- I want you to do something, if you would,
- 00:32:24.966 --> 00:32:27.935
- What you just said about nobody ever took the time.
- 00:32:27.935 --> 00:32:31.172
- - yeah. - nobody ever looked at me
- 00:32:31.172 --> 00:32:34.075
- And said, "hey, you can make it.
- 00:32:34.075 --> 00:32:36.377
- There's something better for you."
- 00:32:36.377 --> 00:32:38.346
- You know, for 50 something years,
- 00:32:39.013 --> 00:32:41.549
- That's all this program has ever tried to do,
- 00:32:41.549 --> 00:32:43.985
- Is try to find people.
- 00:32:43.985 --> 00:32:46.254
- We had a young man sitting in the chair
- 00:32:46.254 --> 00:32:49.424
- You're sitting in just last week
- 00:32:49.424 --> 00:32:52.093
- Who had a nine millimeter gun to his head.
- 00:32:52.093 --> 00:32:54.328
- - i've been there.
- 00:32:54.328 --> 00:32:55.696
- - and had rented an airbnb to go shoot himself in.
- 00:32:55.696 --> 00:33:00.334
- - i've been there.
- 00:33:00.334 --> 00:33:01.869
- - and flipped on a tv just to kill the noise in the room
- 00:33:01.869 --> 00:33:06.874
- 'cause the voices were saying,
- 00:33:07.508 --> 00:33:09.143
- "you're gonna be so much better dead than alive.
- 00:33:09.143 --> 00:33:11.679
- You're worth more to your family dead than alive.
- 00:33:11.679 --> 00:33:14.015
- Do it, do it, do it."
- 00:33:14.015 --> 00:33:15.750
- And he flips on tv just to kill the room noise in his head
- 00:33:15.750 --> 00:33:21.022
- And there was a preacher sitting there with his hand out
- 00:33:22.090 --> 00:33:24.525
- And found this guy- - jesus.
- 00:33:24.525 --> 00:33:26.227
- - and he gave his testimony sitting in that chair, philip.
- 00:33:26.227 --> 00:33:29.597
- - pastor, look into the camera there.
- 00:33:30.431 --> 00:33:31.666
- Somebody might be-
- 00:33:31.666 --> 00:33:34.335
- I heard you saying i've been there.
- 00:33:34.335 --> 00:33:36.771
- - yeah.
- 00:33:36.771 --> 00:33:38.005
- - i've heard you saying that and i-
- 00:33:38.005 --> 00:33:40.108
- - shotgun to my chin.
- 00:33:40.608 --> 00:33:41.509
- - okay.
- 00:33:41.509 --> 00:33:42.443
- - and a-
- 00:33:42.443 --> 00:33:43.945
- - tell that story to that camera with the red light on it
- 00:33:43.945 --> 00:33:45.379
- Because there could be somebody watching
- 00:33:45.379 --> 00:33:47.715
- In that same circumstance.
- 00:33:47.715 --> 00:33:49.484
- - [philip] yeah.
- 00:33:49.484 --> 00:33:50.585
- - there it is.
- 00:33:50.585 --> 00:33:51.719
- - my brother, my sister, whoever you are,
- 00:33:51.719 --> 00:33:54.489
- Wherever you are, i just want you to hear my heart.
- 00:33:54.489 --> 00:33:57.358
- I'm not here to shove anything down your throat,
- 00:33:57.358 --> 00:33:59.594
- But to offer you a message of hope.
- 00:33:59.594 --> 00:34:02.864
- There are people out there,
- 00:34:02.864 --> 00:34:04.165
- You are financially well off and i know you think
- 00:34:04.165 --> 00:34:06.634
- You have everything that you need,
- 00:34:06.634 --> 00:34:07.835
- But there is something that is missing.
- 00:34:07.835 --> 00:34:09.704
- And there are people out there who was where i was,
- 00:34:09.704 --> 00:34:11.973
- Suicidal, shotgun to my chin, and just feeling empty.
- 00:34:11.973 --> 00:34:15.776
- Wherever you are on the spectrum,
- 00:34:15.776 --> 00:34:17.411
- Whether you have lost hope or you think you don't need god,
- 00:34:17.411 --> 00:34:20.047
- I just want to say to you that god created you in his image
- 00:34:20.047 --> 00:34:24.018
- And that he loves you,
- 00:34:24.018 --> 00:34:25.253
- And that the evidence of his love is
- 00:34:25.253 --> 00:34:27.021
- That he sent his son the lord jesus christ into the earth
- 00:34:27.021 --> 00:34:30.458
- Who died a sacrificial death in your place
- 00:34:30.458 --> 00:34:33.261
- That you may be forgiven for your sins,
- 00:34:33.261 --> 00:34:35.663
- That you may know god as a heavenly father.
- 00:34:35.663 --> 00:34:38.032
- I want you to know that the gospel's not about happiness,
- 00:34:38.032 --> 00:34:40.334
- But righteousness.
- 00:34:40.334 --> 00:34:41.802
- That you are not prepared to die apart from christ.
- 00:34:41.802 --> 00:34:45.173
- It doesn't matter if you are on socioeconomic status
- 00:34:45.173 --> 00:34:48.109
- At the very top of that spectrum or on the bottom,
- 00:34:48.109 --> 00:34:50.645
- None of us are prepared to die apart from christ.
- 00:34:50.645 --> 00:34:53.848
- So i want you to know that you can
- 00:34:53.848 --> 00:34:55.583
- Have purpose in life right now,
- 00:34:55.583 --> 00:34:57.418
- And you can have eternity right now
- 00:34:57.418 --> 00:34:59.353
- If you would just turn from your sins,
- 00:34:59.353 --> 00:35:01.589
- Acknowledge that you need a savior,
- 00:35:01.589 --> 00:35:04.225
- And place your faith in the lord jesus christ,
- 00:35:04.225 --> 00:35:06.527
- Wherever you are, whoever you are,
- 00:35:06.527 --> 00:35:08.996
- And what you will find in that humble decision
- 00:35:08.996 --> 00:35:11.098
- If god will be so kind,
- 00:35:11.098 --> 00:35:12.500
- He would enter into your life through the person
- 00:35:12.500 --> 00:35:14.802
- Of the holy spirit regenerate you and make you alive.
- 00:35:14.802 --> 00:35:18.072
- You will come to know a peace you do not know,
- 00:35:18.072 --> 00:35:20.374
- A fulfillment you do not know,
- 00:35:20.374 --> 00:35:23.277
- A love you do not know.
- 00:35:23.277 --> 00:35:25.146
- And you'll be able to live a life of god now
- 00:35:25.146 --> 00:35:27.582
- In purpose that will carry you all the way into eternity
- 00:35:27.582 --> 00:35:30.151
- That you will know when you pillow your head at night,
- 00:35:30.151 --> 00:35:32.553
- Should death find you tonight,
- 00:35:32.553 --> 00:35:34.455
- You would wake up in glory with the savior
- 00:35:34.455 --> 00:35:36.457
- And not someplace else.
- 00:35:36.457 --> 00:35:37.725
- I'm offering you the greatest message of hope
- 00:35:37.725 --> 00:35:40.661
- A human being will ever hear
- 00:35:40.661 --> 00:35:42.363
- Beyond the membership of a church,
- 00:35:42.363 --> 00:35:44.865
- Relationship with the god who created you through his son
- 00:35:44.865 --> 00:35:48.936
- The lord jesus christ,
- 00:35:48.936 --> 00:35:50.137
- In christ and faith in him alone.
- 00:35:50.137 --> 00:35:53.040
- If he can do it for me, if he can do it for tim,
- 00:35:53.040 --> 00:35:57.111
- He can do it for you.
- 00:35:57.111 --> 00:35:58.079
- And that is my prayer for you.
- 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.114
- - lead him in that prayer.
- 00:36:00.114 --> 00:36:01.115
- - yeah.
- 00:36:01.115 --> 00:36:04.719
- Eternal god and of a wise father
- 00:36:05.353 --> 00:36:07.588
- We give you glory and honor and homage for who you are,
- 00:36:08.723 --> 00:36:12.560
- The lord of creation
- 00:36:13.027 --> 00:36:14.762
- And for calling us out of darkness into
- 00:36:14.762 --> 00:36:17.431
- This marvelous life,
- 00:36:17.431 --> 00:36:18.532
- Or that god, we will be eternally grateful.
- 00:36:18.532 --> 00:36:21.302
- And father god, right now,
- 00:36:21.302 --> 00:36:22.803
- I pray for someone on the other side of that camera
- 00:36:22.803 --> 00:36:27.141
- Who's watching us right now,
- 00:36:27.141 --> 00:36:29.543
- I pray for the one who's hurting,
- 00:36:29.543 --> 00:36:31.045
- The one who's angry,
- 00:36:31.045 --> 00:36:32.546
- The one who's in a false religion,
- 00:36:32.546 --> 00:36:34.348
- The one who's far away from you,
- 00:36:34.348 --> 00:36:35.583
- The one who does not believe,
- 00:36:35.583 --> 00:36:36.884
- The one who thinks they have everything,
- 00:36:36.884 --> 00:36:39.353
- And yet they are missing you,
- 00:36:39.353 --> 00:36:40.454
- I pray for them right now.
- 00:36:40.454 --> 00:36:42.690
- God, by the power of the holy spirit,
- 00:36:42.690 --> 00:36:44.592
- You would draw them to yourself,
- 00:36:44.592 --> 00:36:46.360
- That you would open their blinded eyes that they will see
- 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.530
- That you would unstop their deaf ears,
- 00:36:49.530 --> 00:36:51.332
- That they would hear this call to come into the kingdom.
- 00:36:51.332 --> 00:36:54.201
- I pray you would meet them wherever they are,
- 00:36:54.201 --> 00:36:56.270
- A hotel room, a house, a car on the side of the road.
- 00:36:56.270 --> 00:36:59.473
- Wherever they are, i pray you would meet them right now
- 00:36:59.473 --> 00:37:02.376
- And draw them to yourself.
- 00:37:02.376 --> 00:37:04.278
- I pray you would regenerate the loss and make them
- 00:37:04.278 --> 00:37:06.781
- Sons and daughters and they would come to know you
- 00:37:06.781 --> 00:37:10.051
- As a loving savior.
- 00:37:10.051 --> 00:37:11.886
- I pray father, in the name of jesus
- 00:37:11.886 --> 00:37:13.621
- That they would love the things that you love
- 00:37:13.621 --> 00:37:15.656
- And they would hate the things that you would hate.
- 00:37:15.656 --> 00:37:18.125
- They would run from sin
- 00:37:18.125 --> 00:37:19.860
- Towards holiness and towards the light.
- 00:37:19.860 --> 00:37:21.595
- And father, i pray in this moment,
- 00:37:21.595 --> 00:37:23.264
- The kingdom will be enlarged
- 00:37:23.264 --> 00:37:24.832
- Through the deliverance of those
- 00:37:24.832 --> 00:37:26.934
- Who are far away from you god.
- 00:37:26.934 --> 00:37:28.969
- Give us souls right now god lest we die
- 00:37:28.969 --> 00:37:31.539
- And wrap your arms around the one who is hurting.
- 00:37:31.539 --> 00:37:34.342
- And father, we pray for the son and daughter
- 00:37:34.342 --> 00:37:36.544
- Who have strayed, let them know they have not gone so far
- 00:37:36.544 --> 00:37:39.580
- That they cannot come back.
- 00:37:39.580 --> 00:37:41.415
- Rescue father lord, the lamb who are strayed
- 00:37:41.415 --> 00:37:44.218
- And rescue the unbeliever who do not know you.
- 00:37:44.218 --> 00:37:46.821
- We pray god for salvation and restoration.
- 00:37:46.821 --> 00:37:49.890
- - [tim] thank you, lord.
- 00:37:49.890 --> 00:37:51.092
- - right now god we ask in the mighty
- 00:37:51.092 --> 00:37:54.095
- And the majestic
- 00:37:54.462 --> 00:37:55.896
- And the matchless name of our soon coming king,
- 00:37:56.831 --> 00:37:59.667
- The lord jesus christ.
- 00:37:59.667 --> 00:38:01.435
- Amen and amen and amen.
- 00:38:01.435 --> 00:38:03.437
- - tim, go old school with us and lead them in a prayer
- 00:38:03.437 --> 00:38:06.407
- If they don't know how to pray.
- 00:38:06.407 --> 00:38:08.275
- - yeah, i want you to repeat this after me.
- 00:38:09.210 --> 00:38:11.812
- Lord jesus, come into my heart.
- 00:38:11.812 --> 00:38:15.683
- Forgive me from my sin.
- 00:38:16.183 --> 00:38:18.486
- I repent and i turn away from
- 00:38:18.486 --> 00:38:22.189
- The life that i am living.
- 00:38:22.189 --> 00:38:24.992
- - hallelujah, jesus.
- 00:38:24.992 --> 00:38:26.060
- - i turn towards you, jesus.
- 00:38:26.060 --> 00:38:27.595
- - hallelujah.
- 00:38:27.595 --> 00:38:28.763
- - and i thank you.
- 00:38:28.763 --> 00:38:30.297
- - that you are now my lord and my master.
- 00:38:29.263 --> 00:38:33.667
- So i confess it with my mouth.
- 00:38:33.667 --> 00:38:35.803
- And i believe in my heart that you were raised
- 00:38:35.803 --> 00:38:39.907
- From the dead for me- - [participant] hallelujah!
- 00:38:39.907 --> 00:38:42.309
- - and so, i believe it god, i believe it
- 00:38:42.309 --> 00:38:44.445
- With all of me.
- 00:38:44.445 --> 00:38:45.813
- And i give you all of me
- 00:38:45.813 --> 00:38:48.449
- In the name of jesus, i pray, amen.
- 00:38:49.216 --> 00:38:52.686
- - for those that
- 00:38:52.686 --> 00:38:55.389
- Are responding to this,
- 00:38:55.890 --> 00:38:57.391
- However they're responding, what now?
- 00:38:57.391 --> 00:39:00.394
- What's the next thing you need to say to them?
- 00:39:00.394 --> 00:39:02.963
- (guest speaking indistinctly)
- 00:39:02.963 --> 00:39:04.231
- - i would say get connected in community!
- 00:39:04.231 --> 00:39:06.934
- - yeah.
- 00:39:06.934 --> 00:39:08.269
- - find a bible teaching church, get connected.
- 00:39:08.269 --> 00:39:12.606
- Don't settle for just being a follower of jesus christ.
- 00:39:13.741 --> 00:39:17.878
- Become a disciple.
- 00:39:17.878 --> 00:39:19.346
- You can follow sometimes from a distance.
- 00:39:20.147 --> 00:39:23.117
- But to be a disciple means you're close enough
- 00:39:23.117 --> 00:39:25.553
- To be disciplined by the word of god.
- 00:39:25.553 --> 00:39:28.389
- So be a disciple.
- 00:39:28.823 --> 00:39:30.558
- Get rooted and grounded in biblical community
- 00:39:30.558 --> 00:39:34.094
- And watch how god continues to transition your life
- 00:39:34.094 --> 00:39:37.097
- From where you are to where he desires me to be.
- 00:39:37.097 --> 00:39:40.401
- (guest speaking indistinctly)
- 00:39:40.401 --> 00:39:41.368
- Yeah.
- 00:39:41.368 --> 00:39:42.837
- - sitting here and listening to you pray.
- 00:39:43.704 --> 00:39:46.407
- (interviewer chuckling)
- 00:39:46.407 --> 00:39:48.709
- It was like i was listening to your daddy pray for you.
- 00:39:48.709 --> 00:39:52.213
- Contending for you.
- 00:39:52.213 --> 00:39:54.215
- And i know that so many people watching tonight
- 00:39:54.215 --> 00:39:56.383
- Are contending for your children to come back to christ,
- 00:39:56.383 --> 00:40:01.655
- To find god somewhere.
- 00:40:02.156 --> 00:40:03.991
- God, could you send someone to my kids?
- 00:40:03.991 --> 00:40:07.261
- And you know, you might not see it.
- 00:40:07.261 --> 00:40:10.130
- You might go on to be with the lord before you see that,
- 00:40:11.265 --> 00:40:14.368
- But look what we have sitting here. (chuckling)
- 00:40:14.368 --> 00:40:17.505
- I know your daddy contended for your life,
- 00:40:17.505 --> 00:40:20.741
- For your faith,
- 00:40:20.741 --> 00:40:22.977
- For god's purpose to be
- 00:40:22.977 --> 00:40:25.679
- Performed in your life, i know he did!
- 00:40:26.514 --> 00:40:29.683
- And to see what now we have
- 00:40:30.284 --> 00:40:33.120
- And that testimony that goes forward,
- 00:40:33.120 --> 00:40:35.422
- The testimony that god wants to do it again.
- 00:40:35.422 --> 00:40:39.059
- God wants to do it again and again and again,
- 00:40:39.059 --> 00:40:42.162
- And he wants to do it for your children.
- 00:40:42.162 --> 00:40:44.331
- He wants to do it for your family.
- 00:40:44.331 --> 00:40:46.200
- He wants to do it for this nation.
- 00:40:46.200 --> 00:40:48.669
- And to contend for the lives and our faith.
- 00:40:48.669 --> 00:40:53.541
- Because there's a lot of people out there
- 00:40:53.541 --> 00:40:55.709
- That'll die for their faith.
- 00:40:55.709 --> 00:40:57.211
- - that's right, that's right.
- 00:40:57.211 --> 00:40:58.479
- - and we don't wanna live for ours?
- 00:40:58.479 --> 00:41:00.314
- (host chuckling) - wow, wow.
- 00:41:00.314 --> 00:41:01.215
- - right?
- 00:41:01.215 --> 00:41:02.416
- - [guest] wow.
- 00:41:02.416 --> 00:41:03.651
- - and so, i think that's so powerful,
- 00:41:03.651 --> 00:41:04.818
- And i think something has hit america.
- 00:41:04.818 --> 00:41:07.154
- I really do.
- 00:41:07.154 --> 00:41:07.988
- - [guest] yes.
- 00:41:07.988 --> 00:41:09.156
- - that has sparked something.
- 00:41:09.156 --> 00:41:12.459
- And hearing the voices,
- 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:14.361
- And i love, i love that you guys are here today.
- 00:41:14.361 --> 00:41:18.098
- I am so thankful to god for your voices.
- 00:41:18.098 --> 00:41:21.802
- And that god has raised up this generation of believers,
- 00:41:21.802 --> 00:41:26.373
- And i'm so glad that when we were handed
- 00:41:26.373 --> 00:41:29.343
- A (chuckling) microphone,
- 00:41:29.343 --> 00:41:30.911
- That we can hand it off to you guys, because it is powerful
- 00:41:30.911 --> 00:41:33.647
- And it's mighty.
- 00:41:33.647 --> 00:41:34.982
- And we're gonna see a change.
- 00:41:34.982 --> 00:41:36.750
- If you can have people show up
- 00:41:36.750 --> 00:41:39.320
- At state farm arena for an hour to pray.
- 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.356
- - [guest] that's right.
- 00:41:42.356 --> 00:41:43.190
- - [host] that's huge!
- 00:41:43.190 --> 00:41:44.592
- That's amazing.
- 00:41:44.592 --> 00:41:45.993
- And god is doing something, and i love you both.
- 00:41:45.993 --> 00:41:48.262
- - [guest] thank you. (speaking indistinctly)
- 00:41:48.262 --> 00:41:49.663
- - and i just am behind you.
- 00:41:49.663 --> 00:41:52.533
- - that's actually.
- 00:41:52.533 --> 00:41:53.367
- - 1000%.
- 00:41:53.367 --> 00:41:54.768
- - one of the most incredible things i've ever heard.
- 00:41:54.768 --> 00:41:56.337
- Because most ministries would market that event
- 00:41:56.337 --> 00:41:58.973
- For about- - yeah, no ban, no.
- 00:41:58.973 --> 00:42:00.140
- (host chuckling)
- 00:42:00.140 --> 00:42:01.508
- - nine months, and have to have the latest singer.
- 00:42:01.508 --> 00:42:04.578
- If you didn't have brandon lake there, my god,
- 00:42:04.578 --> 00:42:07.348
- How are you gonna get 40,000 people, you know?
- 00:42:07.348 --> 00:42:09.817
- And so, the idea
- 00:42:09.817 --> 00:42:11.218
- That you made a simple clearing call for prayer,
- 00:42:11.218 --> 00:42:14.822
- There's something going on down there
- 00:42:14.822 --> 00:42:17.057
- In your church and around your area.
- 00:42:17.858 --> 00:42:20.327
- And at some point,
- 00:42:20.327 --> 00:42:24.264
- What's the answer to something
- 00:42:24.898 --> 00:42:27.635
- That none of us have ever heard of?
- 00:42:27.635 --> 00:42:29.837
- What happened down there that you make one call,
- 00:42:29.837 --> 00:42:32.973
- And the next thing you know, the stadium's full
- 00:42:32.973 --> 00:42:36.010
- For people to pray.
- 00:42:36.010 --> 00:42:37.311
- - yeah.
- 00:42:37.311 --> 00:42:38.612
- I think if i could be completely transparent,
- 00:42:38.612 --> 00:42:40.848
- I think across america and around the world,
- 00:42:40.848 --> 00:42:44.184
- I might be known for proclamation for my preaching.
- 00:42:44.184 --> 00:42:47.488
- But that's not the strongest part of my ministry.
- 00:42:47.488 --> 00:42:49.857
- Right, the strongest part of my ministry
- 00:42:49.857 --> 00:42:51.425
- Is what people don't see, it's my prayer life.
- 00:42:51.425 --> 00:42:53.594
- - mmm.
- 00:42:53.594 --> 00:42:54.528
- - and i feel that it is a legacy
- 00:42:54.528 --> 00:42:55.663
- That's come down from my mother
- 00:42:55.663 --> 00:42:56.930
- And from my family, just a legacy of prayer.
- 00:42:56.930 --> 00:42:59.533
- I find more joy in being in my prayer closet
- 00:42:59.533 --> 00:43:01.869
- Than on a platform.
- 00:43:01.869 --> 00:43:03.404
- And so, it's something that we've modeled in our church,
- 00:43:03.404 --> 00:43:05.973
- We have a very strong prayer team led by a godly woman.
- 00:43:05.973 --> 00:43:09.276
- And our church is all about prayer.
- 00:43:09.276 --> 00:43:11.178
- In fact, we have three pillars at our church
- 00:43:11.178 --> 00:43:12.880
- That we are a house of presence,
- 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:14.548
- Prayer presence and proclamation.
- 00:43:14.548 --> 00:43:16.884
- And so, we have modeled that.
- 00:43:16.884 --> 00:43:18.285
- And it's not a game for us.
- 00:43:18.285 --> 00:43:20.454
- So, i think when that call went out,
- 00:43:20.454 --> 00:43:22.823
- I think it's less of us.
- 00:43:22.823 --> 00:43:24.224
- I mean, we spent three months prepping for that.
- 00:43:24.224 --> 00:43:26.960
- I thank the spirit of god.
- 00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:29.396
- - sovereignly drew hungry men and women
- 00:43:28.495 --> 00:43:32.933
- From across the nation around the world.
- 00:43:32.933 --> 00:43:35.035
- And what we saw was a beautiful mosaic of the remnant
- 00:43:35.035 --> 00:43:38.405
- That is in the earth, that is hungry
- 00:43:38.405 --> 00:43:40.240
- For the lord jesus christ.
- 00:43:40.240 --> 00:43:41.642
- And so i think it was a sovereign move of god beyond us,
- 00:43:41.642 --> 00:43:45.512
- Beyond my staff, beyond our capacity.
- 00:43:45.512 --> 00:43:47.581
- I think if we took credit for it,
- 00:43:47.581 --> 00:43:49.349
- We would dishonor the lord.
- 00:43:49.349 --> 00:43:50.718
- I think god sovereignly drew people to that place
- 00:43:50.718 --> 00:43:54.922
- For that prayer hour,
- 00:43:54.922 --> 00:43:56.657
- Because the nation needs that right now more than anything.
- 00:43:56.657 --> 00:43:59.626
- We need to be united in prayer.
- 00:43:59.626 --> 00:44:01.361
- - the three p's again?
- 00:44:01.361 --> 00:44:02.996
- - prayer, presence, proclamation.
- 00:44:02.996 --> 00:44:05.666
- - and let's add prophecy to that.
- 00:44:05.666 --> 00:44:07.201
- (laurie chuckles)
- 00:44:07.201 --> 00:44:08.402
- - absolutely. - because it was a word
- 00:44:08.402 --> 00:44:09.403
- Of the lord that prepared him.
- 00:44:09.403 --> 00:44:11.505
- And so the idea that
- 00:44:11.972 --> 00:44:15.843
- God doesn't do anything new until
- 00:44:15.843 --> 00:44:18.045
- He reveals it
- 00:44:18.045 --> 00:44:19.079
- To his prophets. - facts, facts.
- 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.315
- You give him the word.
- 00:44:21.315 --> 00:44:23.450
- You're preaching to 100 and something people
- 00:44:24.351 --> 00:44:26.987
- At the time, and now you have a movement down there
- 00:44:26.987 --> 00:44:30.424
- In atlanta that-
- 00:44:30.424 --> 00:44:31.959
- - it's amazing. - we've never seen before.
- 00:44:31.959 --> 00:44:33.026
- It's never happened before.
- 00:44:33.026 --> 00:44:33.994
- - i just looked down and read,
- 00:44:33.994 --> 00:44:35.262
- "revival doesn't wait for a microphone."
- 00:44:35.262 --> 00:44:37.464
- - [tim] that's right.
- 00:44:37.464 --> 00:44:38.766
- - "it starts wherever the word is spoken."
- 00:44:38.766 --> 00:44:39.933
- - that's right.
- 00:44:39.933 --> 00:44:41.235
- (laurie laughing) - and he won't say this,
- 00:44:41.235 --> 00:44:42.436
- But i'll ask him the question
- 00:44:42.436 --> 00:44:43.804
- Because i think it's important
- 00:44:43.804 --> 00:44:45.139
- For our viewers. - good, good.
- 00:44:45.139 --> 00:44:46.573
- - but how long was it before you announced access
- 00:44:46.573 --> 00:44:51.845
- At state farm arena, to the time where you got a response
- 00:44:53.013 --> 00:44:56.450
- For 24,000 people?
- 00:44:56.450 --> 00:44:57.985
- - seven days.
- 00:44:57.985 --> 00:44:58.952
- (laurie laughing)
- 00:44:58.952 --> 00:45:00.220
- (tim laughs) - i love it.
- 00:45:00.220 --> 00:45:01.555
- - okay, well, that's never happened either.
- 00:45:01.555 --> 00:45:03.157
- So, the-
- 00:45:03.157 --> 00:45:04.525
- (guests laughing)
- 00:45:04.525 --> 00:45:05.592
- Word of the lord comes to you.
- 00:45:05.592 --> 00:45:07.961
- - yeah.
- 00:45:07.961 --> 00:45:09.363
- - okay, and did you know pastor philip at the time?
- 00:45:09.363 --> 00:45:12.132
- Had you ever met or-
- 00:45:12.132 --> 00:45:13.534
- - we never met in person.
- 00:45:13.534 --> 00:45:15.302
- (laurie scoffs)
- 00:45:15.302 --> 00:45:16.136
- Never met in person.
- 00:45:16.136 --> 00:45:17.104
- He was standing in a circle,
- 00:45:17.104 --> 00:45:19.706
- And him and his wife, lena, and god just highlighted them,
- 00:45:19.706 --> 00:45:23.443
- Placed this impression
- 00:45:23.443 --> 00:45:24.611
- On my spirit. - wow.
- 00:45:24.611 --> 00:45:26.013
- - and we kinda went our separate ways.
- 00:45:26.013 --> 00:45:28.015
- I went to the stage to preach.
- 00:45:28.015 --> 00:45:29.817
- And they were there, and then i got shuffled off,
- 00:45:29.817 --> 00:45:32.019
- And i just couldn't shake this word.
- 00:45:32.019 --> 00:45:34.488
- And so finally, i'm not even sure how we connected
- 00:45:34.488 --> 00:45:37.658
- On social media, but-
- 00:45:37.658 --> 00:45:39.893
- - i sent you a dm
- 00:45:39.893 --> 00:45:41.528
- And i let you know
- 00:45:41.528 --> 00:45:43.030
- I was in the room that day. - that's right, and i saw-
- 00:45:43.030 --> 00:45:44.298
- - and they wouldn't let me talk to you.
- 00:45:44.298 --> 00:45:45.432
- - and i saw his picture. (hosts laughing)
- 00:45:45.432 --> 00:45:46.500
- (group chattering indistinctly)
- 00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:47.334
- (all laughing)
- 00:45:47.334 --> 00:45:50.604
- - can't talk to tim timberlake.
- 00:45:51.238 --> 00:45:54.074
- Can't talk to...
- 00:45:54.441 --> 00:45:56.276
- - don't ask me how i know! - can't talk to tim.
- 00:45:57.244 --> 00:45:59.346
- - i saw his picture, and i sent him that prophetic message.
- 00:45:59.346 --> 00:46:02.683
- - can't talk to him. - i love it.
- 00:46:02.683 --> 00:46:04.117
- - that's it.
- 00:46:04.117 --> 00:46:05.352
- - and at the time, the room was empty.
- 00:46:05.352 --> 00:46:06.687
- - yep. - come on now.
- 00:46:06.687 --> 00:46:07.855
- - your room was empty. - that's right.
- 00:46:07.855 --> 00:46:08.655
- My room was empty, man.
- 00:46:08.655 --> 00:46:10.190
- We were going through one of the most challenging seasons
- 00:46:10.190 --> 00:46:12.693
- Of our church, and we were preaching to empty rooms
- 00:46:12.693 --> 00:46:16.997
- At the same time and god gave me a word.
- 00:46:16.997 --> 00:46:20.934
- And oftentimes god gives you a word
- 00:46:20.934 --> 00:46:23.370
- For somebody else like, "god!"
- 00:46:23.370 --> 00:46:24.972
- - [laurie] yeah. (laughing) - i sure would like that word.
- 00:46:24.972 --> 00:46:26.506
- What in the world is going on?
- 00:46:26.506 --> 00:46:27.774
- - you sure that's not
- 00:46:27.774 --> 00:46:29.142
- For me, lord? (laughing) - that's right. (laughing)
- 00:46:29.142 --> 00:46:30.377
- But just to marvel at the gift of god.
- 00:46:30.377 --> 00:46:34.181
- And both he and his wife has been...
- 00:46:34.181 --> 00:46:37.017
- It inspires me.
- 00:46:37.017 --> 00:46:38.051
- - okay, so tim. - [tim] yeah.
- 00:46:38.051 --> 00:46:40.287
- Can you see the shaquille o'neal
- 00:46:40.287 --> 00:46:42.456
- In him too? (laurie laughing)
- 00:46:42.456 --> 00:46:43.390
- Do you see a little bit of-
- 00:46:43.390 --> 00:46:44.858
- - that's (indistinct) from shaquille from new jersey,
- 00:46:44.858 --> 00:46:46.126
- And i'm from queens- (tim chuckles)
- 00:46:46.126 --> 00:46:47.628
- So we got mannerisms.
- 00:46:47.628 --> 00:46:48.795
- - a little... the voice. - i need another
- 00:46:48.795 --> 00:46:50.597
- Two feet though.
- 00:46:50.597 --> 00:46:51.431
- - a little the voice.
- 00:46:51.431 --> 00:46:52.699
- The voice is- - i need another two feet.
- 00:46:52.699 --> 00:46:54.134
- - yeah, yeah.
- 00:46:54.134 --> 00:46:54.968
- (hosts laughing)
- 00:46:54.968 --> 00:46:56.403
- - [philip] i need another two feet.
- 00:46:56.403 --> 00:46:57.404
- - and probably another-
- 00:46:57.404 --> 00:46:58.572
- - yeah.
- 00:46:58.572 --> 00:46:59.640
- (guests speak indistinctly)
- 00:46:59.640 --> 00:47:01.074
- (all laugh)
- 00:47:01.074 --> 00:47:01.909
- Yeah.
- 00:47:01.909 --> 00:47:03.210
- - okay, when do you guys do your podcast?
- 00:47:03.210 --> 00:47:05.479
- When does it come out?
- 00:47:05.479 --> 00:47:06.914
- What days do the new ones come out?
- 00:47:06.914 --> 00:47:09.116
- - so "adios" drop every tuesday.
- 00:47:09.116 --> 00:47:12.352
- And then the video to them drop on thursday.
- 00:47:12.352 --> 00:47:14.955
- - nice. - on thursday.
- 00:47:14.955 --> 00:47:15.822
- - yeah. - beautiful.
- 00:47:15.822 --> 00:47:16.790
- - you know shaquille's mother's
- 00:47:16.790 --> 00:47:17.724
- Actually one of my friends.
- 00:47:17.724 --> 00:47:19.059
- - no!
- 00:47:19.059 --> 00:47:19.893
- - (indistinct) yeah.
- 00:47:19.893 --> 00:47:20.994
- Shaquille's mom, one of my friends.
- 00:47:20.994 --> 00:47:22.262
- She texts me, she calls me, sends me kiss-
- 00:47:22.262 --> 00:47:23.363
- - [laurie] i knew his dad.
- 00:47:23.363 --> 00:47:24.264
- - you knew his dad?
- 00:47:24.264 --> 00:47:25.098
- - yeah, shaquille's mom
- 00:47:25.098 --> 00:47:26.199
- Dr. lucille o'neill-
- 00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:27.901
- - yes.
- 00:47:27.901 --> 00:47:28.835
- - that is one of my friends.
- 00:47:28.835 --> 00:47:30.103
- She's a good godly woman too.
- 00:47:30.103 --> 00:47:32.205
- She's a really godly woman.
- 00:47:32.205 --> 00:47:34.041
- - [tim] i love that.
- 00:47:34.041 --> 00:47:34.875
- - she's taller than me.
- 00:47:34.875 --> 00:47:36.243
- (all laugh)
- 00:47:36.243 --> 00:47:37.511
- She's a godly woman, dr. lucille o'neill.
- 00:47:37.511 --> 00:47:40.047
- Shout out dr. lucille o'neill.
- 00:47:40.047 --> 00:47:41.882
- - (chuckles) tim, your program is on tbn on sundays.
- 00:47:42.950 --> 00:47:45.686
- - it is, yes. - i love it. (air swooshes)
- 00:47:45.686 --> 00:47:47.587
- (inspirational music)
- 00:47:47.587 --> 00:47:49.323
- - peter tells the other disciples, "i'm going fishing,"
- 00:47:49.323 --> 00:47:52.392
- And they caught nothing
- 00:47:52.926 --> 00:47:53.827
- All night long once again.
- 00:47:53.827 --> 00:47:55.662
- Jesus sees them and tells them, "drop your nets."
- 00:47:55.662 --> 00:47:59.666
- And scripture says in john chapter 21
- 00:48:00.467 --> 00:48:02.636
- That they caught 153 fish.
- 00:48:02.636 --> 00:48:05.339
- That's a very specific number.
- 00:48:05.339 --> 00:48:07.341
- The reason i believe that number is placed in scripture,
- 00:48:07.341 --> 00:48:10.677
- Because at that particular time,
- 00:48:10.677 --> 00:48:12.646
- The only nations in nationalities
- 00:48:12.646 --> 00:48:15.015
- That were recognized were 153.
- 00:48:15.015 --> 00:48:17.351
- It was a prophetic declaration to peter
- 00:48:17.351 --> 00:48:19.586
- That not only are you going to fish for people,
- 00:48:19.586 --> 00:48:22.222
- But you're going to reach all demographics of people.
- 00:48:22.222 --> 00:48:25.025
- (inspirational music)
- 00:48:25.025 --> 00:48:26.727
- (crowd applauds)
- 00:48:26.727 --> 00:48:29.696
- - hear me. hear me.
- 00:48:30.163 --> 00:48:32.899
- The old decisions that you made
- 00:48:33.567 --> 00:48:36.670
- Did not disqualify the purpose
- 00:48:37.304 --> 00:48:39.840
- That god has set before you
- 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.042
- If you choose to step outside of your boat
- 00:48:42.042 --> 00:48:45.345
- Of comfort and convenience and follow him.
- 00:48:45.345 --> 00:48:48.148
- (serene music)
- 00:48:48.148 --> 00:48:51.184
- This is not how this story ends.
- 00:48:51.818 --> 00:48:54.388
- The story doesn't end with peter on the boat.
- 00:48:55.355 --> 00:48:57.958
- And your story won't end with you
- 00:48:58.692 --> 00:49:01.294
- Resting and dying in comfort and convenience,
- 00:49:01.294 --> 00:49:04.498
- Because that's all you've been familiar with.
- 00:49:04.498 --> 00:49:08.668
- God has more for you.
- 00:49:08.668 --> 00:49:10.404
- - i love watching you, sir.
- 00:49:10.404 --> 00:49:11.705
- - it is an honor and privilege.
- 00:49:12.339 --> 00:49:14.141
- Two generations of the - isn't that great?
- 00:49:14.141 --> 00:49:15.742
- - crouches and timberlake doing ministry.
- 00:49:15.742 --> 00:49:17.411
- - and i see that baby coming up too.
- 00:49:17.411 --> 00:49:18.845
- - absolutely. - pastor philip.
- 00:49:18.845 --> 00:49:19.813
- - yep. - when are you
- 00:49:19.813 --> 00:49:20.747
- Gonna be a tbn programmer?
- 00:49:20.747 --> 00:49:22.482
- - [laurie] come on. - that's right.
- 00:49:22.482 --> 00:49:23.850
- - whenever the door opens.
- 00:49:23.850 --> 00:49:24.985
- - soon and very soon. - yeah.
- 00:49:24.985 --> 00:49:26.153
- - i'll be honored. - well, let's,
- 00:49:26.153 --> 00:49:27.554
- Let's have that,
- 00:49:27.554 --> 00:49:28.822
- Let's have that discussion.
- 00:49:28.822 --> 00:49:30.123
- I remember sitting right here,
- 00:49:30.123 --> 00:49:33.493
- Td jakes one day said,
- 00:49:33.493 --> 00:49:35.529
- "the first time i ever walked through the,
- 00:49:35.529 --> 00:49:37.831
- The gates of tbn, he said,
- 00:49:37.831 --> 00:49:40.067
- "my knees were knocking together,
- 00:49:40.067 --> 00:49:41.735
- And paul and jan crouch,
- 00:49:41.735 --> 00:49:43.036
- And i was pastoring 200 people.
- 00:49:43.036 --> 00:49:46.073
- And paul crouch looked at me
- 00:49:46.073 --> 00:49:48.175
- At the end of that broadcast and said,
- 00:49:48.175 --> 00:49:50.343
- 'i think you ought to have your own program on tbn.'"
- 00:49:50.343 --> 00:49:53.580
- And pastor philip,
- 00:49:53.580 --> 00:49:55.382
- I think you need your own program here on tbn.
- 00:49:56.316 --> 00:49:58.018
- - jesus. thank you.
- 00:49:58.018 --> 00:49:59.152
- - and so, if you've got the cameras,
- 00:49:59.152 --> 00:50:00.787
- And the lights and the whole thing,
- 00:50:00.787 --> 00:50:02.355
- And we'll help figure all that out,
- 00:50:02.355 --> 00:50:04.024
- - [pastor phillips] thank you, sir.
- 00:50:04.024 --> 00:50:05.559
- - we'd love to, we'd love to welcome you into the broadcast.
- 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:06.693
- - thank you, sir. i'm humbled.
- 00:50:06.693 --> 00:50:08.195
- - thank you so much. - and you're gonna
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- Have to learn not to keep slapping your microphone.
- 00:50:09.729 --> 00:50:12.099
- - oh my gosh. - yeah. yeah.
- 00:50:12.099 --> 00:50:13.667
- 'cause every time you do that, he,
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- You, everyone here just,
- 00:50:14.968 --> 00:50:16.970
- That's all they heard. - do preach with a handheld?
- 00:50:16.970 --> 00:50:18.905
- - i preach with a air piece.
- 00:50:18.905 --> 00:50:19.873
- - okay. alright.
- 00:50:19.873 --> 00:50:22.075
- - so you can, so you can bang on your chest all you want.
- 00:50:22.075 --> 00:50:24.177
- (laurie laughs) i love that.
- 00:50:24.177 --> 00:50:25.378
- - [pastor philip] absolutely. - okay.
- 00:50:25.378 --> 00:50:26.379
- - [pastor philip] i'm honored.
- 00:50:26.379 --> 00:50:27.214
- - final thoughts, guys.
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- Street preachers, your podcast,
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- All that information's on the screen.
- 00:50:30.617 --> 00:50:33.086
- Your last thought kinda to this.
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- We didn't want you to come here and not preach.
- 00:50:37.491 --> 00:50:39.526
- We didn't want to come here and not lead people to jesus.
- 00:50:39.526 --> 00:50:41.528
- - [pastor phillips] yeah. - we didn't wanna come here
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- And not pray.
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- We didn't wanna, okay.
- 00:50:43.763 --> 00:50:44.898
- That's what we do. okay. - yes, sir.
- 00:50:44.898 --> 00:50:46.233
- - and you guys, you guys did it.
- 00:50:46.233 --> 00:50:48.068
- Your final thoughts and then i'll give you the final word.
- 00:50:48.068 --> 00:50:50.704
- - i just, i sense such a strong release for healing.
- 00:50:50.704 --> 00:50:55.142
- For- - come on. do it.
- 00:50:55.142 --> 00:50:56.042
- - our viewers. - do it.
- 00:50:56.042 --> 00:50:57.444
- - [laurie] do it. - for those that are battling
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- The disease right now.
- 00:50:59.246 --> 00:51:00.347
- - [matt] thank you, lord.
- 00:51:00.347 --> 00:51:01.748
- - you feel hopeless, you feel bound, you feel stuck.
- 00:51:01.748 --> 00:51:04.885
- Right now in the name of jesus,
- 00:51:04.885 --> 00:51:06.186
- I just thank you. - thank you, lord.
- 00:51:06.186 --> 00:51:07.454
- - that testimonies after testimonies of-
- 00:51:07.454 --> 00:51:09.856
- - [matt] thank you, lord.
- 00:51:09.856 --> 00:51:10.857
- - deliverance, and freedom,
- 00:51:10.857 --> 00:51:12.792
- And supernatural healing-
- 00:51:12.792 --> 00:51:14.194
- - [pastor philip] yes, lord. - would come in,
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- In the name of jesus.
- 00:51:15.862 --> 00:51:16.997
- And so right now, - yes, lord.
- 00:51:16.997 --> 00:51:18.231
- - thank you right now that your name
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- Is higher than- - [matt] yes.
- 00:51:20.600 --> 00:51:21.735
- - every other name,
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- Higher than the name of disease,
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- Higher than the name of cancer,
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- Higher than the name of diabetes,
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- Higher than every other name.
- 00:51:27.007 --> 00:51:28.341
- And so right now, god, we plead your name.
- 00:51:28.341 --> 00:51:30.610
- And god, we ask right now in the name of jesus
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- That there would be undeniable, documented miracles.
- 00:51:33.647 --> 00:51:37.617
- - [pastor philip] yes, lord, - that pour in to tbn
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- From this moment. - thank you, father.
- 00:51:40.220 --> 00:51:41.721
- - in the name of jesus we pray.
- 00:51:41.721 --> 00:51:43.256
- - [pastor philip] yes, lord. - amen.
- 00:51:43.256 --> 00:51:44.991
- - pastor. - my final word is repetitive.
- 00:51:44.991 --> 00:51:48.228
- Time is running out. - hmm.
- 00:51:48.228 --> 00:51:49.863
- - and there is nothing that's gonna satisfy
- 00:51:49.863 --> 00:51:51.665
- You in this life, more than a deep,
- 00:51:51.665 --> 00:51:55.135
- Intimate, real, genuine personal relationship
- 00:51:55.135 --> 00:51:59.406
- With the lord jesus christ.
- 00:51:59.406 --> 00:52:01.107
- That is my final word.
- 00:52:01.107 --> 00:52:02.375
- - and my final question.
- 00:52:02.375 --> 00:52:03.777
- Explain your hat to me.
- 00:52:03.777 --> 00:52:05.645
- - i am a black sheep.
- 00:52:06.146 --> 00:52:08.648
- I am an outlier to western christian culture.
- 00:52:08.648 --> 00:52:14.154
- I am on the battlefield for orthodox christianity
- 00:52:15.155 --> 00:52:19.092
- In the tenets of the faith.
- 00:52:19.092 --> 00:52:20.994
- I am not owned by any camp or anyone.
- 00:52:20.994 --> 00:52:26.366
- I am a servant of the lord jesus christ.
- 00:52:27.234 --> 00:52:28.768
- And like paul, i wanna finish my race.
- 00:52:28.768 --> 00:52:31.104
- I wanna fight for the faith.
- 00:52:31.104 --> 00:52:33.073
- I wanna receive the crown that's laid up for me.
- 00:52:33.073 --> 00:52:35.342
- And whether people love me or hate me,
- 00:52:35.342 --> 00:52:37.277
- Or understand me, god knows my heart.
- 00:52:37.277 --> 00:52:39.913
- And, and that's why i'm a black sheep.
- 00:52:39.913 --> 00:52:42.582
- - hmm. - yeah.
- 00:52:42.582 --> 00:52:44.251
- - love you guys, both of you.
- 00:52:44.884 --> 00:52:45.952
- - we love you too. - amazing.
- 00:52:45.952 --> 00:52:47.120
- - love you too. - what an awesome day.
- 00:52:47.120 --> 00:52:49.256
- (pastor philip chuckles)
- 00:52:49.256 --> 00:52:50.223
- And you realize, think of it,
- 00:52:50.223 --> 00:52:51.625
- For 53 years, we've been sitting down, breaking it down.
- 00:52:51.625 --> 00:52:56.863
- Your mom and daddy, my mom and daddy.
- 00:52:57.697 --> 00:52:59.232
- We've been doing all this for all these years,
- 00:52:59.232 --> 00:53:01.434
- But we're doing the same thing.
- 00:53:01.434 --> 00:53:03.003
- - that's right.
- 00:53:03.003 --> 00:53:04.037
- - so powerful. - that's right.
- 00:53:04.037 --> 00:53:05.338
- - we're just lifting up jesus. - that's it.
- 00:53:05.338 --> 00:53:06.706
- - just lifting up jesus. - letting him draw people.
- 00:53:06.706 --> 00:53:08.341
- Thank you. - we're contending
- 00:53:08.341 --> 00:53:09.476
- For the faith. - we're doing it.
- 00:53:09.476 --> 00:53:10.744
- Thank you, guys.
- 00:53:10.744 --> 00:53:11.578
- We'll do this again.
- 00:53:11.578 --> 00:53:12.912
- - absolutely. - and we'll see you next time.
- 00:53:12.912 --> 00:53:14.447
- Bye-bye.
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- (upbeat music)
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