Praise

Tim Timberlake: The Fruit of Faith in Difficult Seasons | Praise

May 19, 2026 | 53:0

Matt and Laurie Crouch host Tim Timberlake.

#Praise #Communication #Fruitful #Faith #Trials-HardTimes #Season #Relationships #Community #TrustGod #WalkwithGod #Mentoring #MattCrouch #LaurieCrouch #TimTimberlake

Closed captions

Show Timecode

Praise | Tim Timberlake: The Fruit of Faith in Difficult Seasons | Praise | May 19, 2026

Coming up tonight on praise.
00:00:02.150 --> 00:00:06.455
Coming up tonight on praise. >> it upsets a little bit of an
00:00:06.521 --> 00:00:08.924
>> it upsets a little bit of an apple cart of some of the
00:00:08.990 --> 00:00:11.026
Apple cart of some of the things that we were raised in,
00:00:11.093 --> 00:00:16.131
Things that we were raised in, because it would have been
00:00:16.198 --> 00:00:18.633
Because it would have been nothing bad should ever happen.
00:00:18.700 --> 00:00:21.069
Nothing bad should ever happen. if you're praying and if you're
00:00:21.136 --> 00:00:22.871
If you're praying and if you're doing enough right and if
00:00:22.938 --> 00:00:24.339
Doing enough right and if you're believing enough.
00:00:24.406 --> 00:00:25.874
You're believing enough. >> we miss a great portion of
00:00:25.941 --> 00:00:28.276
>> we miss a great portion of scripture. if that is our
00:00:28.343 --> 00:00:30.112
Scripture. if that is our perspective, and there are
00:00:30.178 --> 00:00:31.513
Perspective, and there are verses that i'm reminded of
00:00:31.580 --> 00:00:32.948
That teach us after you have
00:00:33.014 --> 00:00:35.150
That teach us after you have suffered for a little while, he
00:00:35.217 --> 00:00:39.454
Suffered for a little while, he himself will lift you.
00:00:39.521 --> 00:00:48.430
Himself will lift you. >> tonight on praise from
00:00:48.497 --> 00:00:50.632
>> tonight on praise from dallas, senior pastor of
00:00:50.699 --> 00:00:52.434
Dallas, senior pastor of celebration church, global
00:00:52.501 --> 00:00:54.569
Celebration church, global communicator and author pastor
00:00:54.636 --> 00:00:57.839
Communicator and author pastor tim timberlake. and now your
00:00:57.906 --> 00:01:02.177
Tim timberlake. and now your host, matt and laurie crouch.
00:01:02.244 --> 00:01:05.347
Host, matt and laurie crouch. >> tim timberlake. it's 2026,
00:01:05.413 --> 00:01:09.050
>> tim timberlake. it's 2026, for goodness sakes. almost
00:01:09.117 --> 00:01:10.785
For goodness sakes. almost halfway. and mercy me and we
00:01:10.852 --> 00:01:14.756
Are here together in dallas,
00:01:14.823 --> 00:01:18.393
Are here together in dallas, texas. if you wound the clock
00:01:18.460 --> 00:01:20.829
Texas. if you wound the clock back about 30 years, paul and
00:01:20.896 --> 00:01:24.166
Back about 30 years, paul and jan would have been sitting
00:01:24.232 --> 00:01:25.200
Jan would have been sitting here.
00:01:25.267 --> 00:01:25.534
Here. >> absolutely.
00:01:25.600 --> 00:01:25.867
>> absolutely. >> and mac and mac and brenda
00:01:25.934 --> 00:01:27.669
>> and mac and mac and brenda would have been sitting right
00:01:27.736 --> 00:01:28.770
Would have been sitting right there.
00:01:28.837 --> 00:01:28.970
There. >> i know.
00:01:29.037 --> 00:01:30.205
>> i know. >> and they're all in heaven.
00:01:30.272 --> 00:01:32.841
>> and they're all in heaven. mama. still with.
00:01:32.908 --> 00:01:33.375
Mama. still with. >> us, mama. still with us.
00:01:33.441 --> 00:01:35.010
>> us, mama. still with us. >> your daddy's in heaven. my
00:01:35.076 --> 00:01:36.378
>> your daddy's in heaven. my daddy's in heaven. my mama's in
00:01:36.444 --> 00:01:38.146
Daddy's in heaven. my mama's in heaven. and and here we are.
00:01:38.213 --> 00:01:41.383
Heaven. and and here we are. but when you have that kind of
00:01:41.449 --> 00:01:44.319
But when you have that kind of life long heritage, right? when
00:01:44.386 --> 00:01:46.821
Life long heritage, right? when you when you've been knowing
00:01:46.888 --> 00:01:47.956
You when you've been knowing each other for a minute.
00:01:48.023 --> 00:01:49.391
Each other for a minute. >> yeah.
00:01:49.457 --> 00:01:50.058
>> yeah. >> then there's an occasional
00:01:50.125 --> 00:01:51.459
>> then there's an occasional praise program, which i find
00:01:51.526 --> 00:01:53.662
Praise program, which i find this kind of funny because this
00:01:53.728 --> 00:01:55.297
This kind of funny because this is not like me. i i'm a
00:01:55.363 --> 00:01:57.232
Is not like me. i i'm a producer director by nature.
00:01:57.299 --> 00:01:59.367
Producer director by nature. right? so i like to have
00:01:59.434 --> 00:02:01.970
Right? so i like to have prerolls and i like to have
00:02:02.037 --> 00:02:03.371
Prerolls and i like to have scripts written in advance, and
00:02:03.438 --> 00:02:04.673
Scripts written in advance, and i like to approve things. i
00:02:04.739 --> 00:02:06.174
I like to approve things. i like to do all that and.
00:02:06.241 --> 00:02:08.009
Like to do all that and. >> praise program.
00:02:08.076 --> 00:02:09.477
>> praise program. >> praise program. here we are.
00:02:09.544 --> 00:02:10.912
>> praise program. here we are. we're sitting here. you're our
00:02:10.979 --> 00:02:12.614
We're sitting here. you're our guest today. and inasmuch as we
00:02:12.681 --> 00:02:16.585
Guest today. and inasmuch as we chatted on the phone, there's
00:02:16.651 --> 00:02:18.820
Chatted on the phone, there's nothing. you get an invitation
00:02:18.887 --> 00:02:20.622
Nothing. you get an invitation just because, just because of
00:02:20.689 --> 00:02:22.324
Just because, just because of who you are family.
00:02:22.390 --> 00:02:23.491
Who you are family. >> it's like just like sitting
00:02:23.558 --> 00:02:24.726
>> it's like just like sitting across the dinner table. all
00:02:24.793 --> 00:02:26.027
Across the dinner table. all right.
00:02:26.094 --> 00:02:26.728
Right. >> so let's pretend we have
00:02:26.795 --> 00:02:28.563
>> so let's pretend we have something like some sushi or
00:02:28.630 --> 00:02:29.965
Something like some sushi or something in between. us and
00:02:30.031 --> 00:02:34.302
Something in between. us and praise occasionally is just
00:02:34.369 --> 00:02:37.138
Praise occasionally is just about the word.
00:02:37.205 --> 00:02:37.839
About the word. >> that's right.
00:02:37.906 --> 00:02:38.673
>> that's right. >> yeah. so that's what today
00:02:38.740 --> 00:02:40.075
>> yeah. so that's what today is. so this is going to just be
00:02:40.141 --> 00:02:41.943
Is. so this is going to just be kind of your thing. now i want
00:02:42.010 --> 00:02:43.878
Kind of your thing. now i want to do say before you get into
00:02:43.945 --> 00:02:45.780
To do say before you get into it that you can see what's the
00:02:45.847 --> 00:02:48.416
It that you can see what's the name of your program? just
00:02:48.483 --> 00:02:49.751
Name of your program? just celebration church.
00:02:49.818 --> 00:02:50.452
Celebration church. >> just celebration, church.
00:02:50.518 --> 00:02:51.920
>> just celebration, church. celebration church.
00:02:51.987 --> 00:02:53.021
Celebration church. >> so that. tim ayres 5:30 p.m.
00:02:53.088 --> 00:02:56.625
>> so that. tim ayres 5:30 p.m. sundays right here on tbn. and
00:02:56.691 --> 00:02:59.160
Sundays right here on tbn. and his mom and daddy, mac and and
00:02:59.227 --> 00:03:00.895
His mom and daddy, mac and and brenda were the host of this
00:03:00.962 --> 00:03:03.498
Brenda were the host of this praise program for many, many
00:03:03.565 --> 00:03:04.899
Praise program for many, many years. your mom and daddy
00:03:04.966 --> 00:03:06.401
Years. your mom and daddy hailed out of north carolina,
00:03:06.468 --> 00:03:07.669
Hailed out of north carolina, right?
00:03:07.736 --> 00:03:07.902
Right? >> that's correct. yeah.
00:03:07.969 --> 00:03:09.271
>> that's correct. yeah. creedmoor, north carolina.
00:03:09.337 --> 00:03:10.105
Creedmoor, north carolina. >> there it is.
00:03:10.171 --> 00:03:10.739
>> there it is. >> would you sleep under the
00:03:10.805 --> 00:03:12.340
>> would you sleep under the piano while they were hosting?
00:03:12.407 --> 00:03:13.575
Piano while they were hosting? >> we would do all types of
00:03:13.642 --> 00:03:15.343
>> we would do all types of stuff. they would bring the
00:03:15.410 --> 00:03:16.444
Stuff. they would bring the choir with them sometime. yeah.
00:03:16.511 --> 00:03:17.946
Choir with them sometime. yeah. in nashville.
00:03:18.013 --> 00:03:18.780
In nashville. >> out of nashville mainly.
00:03:18.847 --> 00:03:20.081
>> out of nashville mainly. >> yeah. i would go to that
00:03:20.148 --> 00:03:21.683
>> yeah. i would go to that holiday inn and just stay there
00:03:21.750 --> 00:03:22.851
Holiday inn and just stay there as long as i could. they stay
00:03:22.917 --> 00:03:24.753
As long as i could. they stay in there having church all
00:03:24.819 --> 00:03:25.887
In there having church all night. i go meet them back at
00:03:25.954 --> 00:03:27.722
Night. i go meet them back at the studio. by the time they
00:03:27.789 --> 00:03:29.591
The studio. by the time they wrapping up, we got very
00:03:29.658 --> 00:03:30.659
Wrapping up, we got very familiar with the studio in
00:03:30.725 --> 00:03:31.760
Familiar with the studio in nashville for sure.
00:03:31.826 --> 00:03:32.694
Nashville for sure. >> tbn owns that, that holiday
00:03:32.761 --> 00:03:34.262
>> tbn owns that, that holiday inn now.
00:03:34.329 --> 00:03:34.763
Inn now. >> that's incredible. yeah, i
00:03:34.829 --> 00:03:35.964
>> that's incredible. yeah, i got to.
00:03:36.031 --> 00:03:36.598
Got to. >> we bought it a number of
00:03:36.665 --> 00:03:37.799
>> we bought it a number of years ago and completely
00:03:37.866 --> 00:03:39.734
Years ago and completely renovated it. by the.
00:03:39.801 --> 00:03:40.735
Renovated it. by the. >> way, in henderson,
00:03:40.802 --> 00:03:42.070
>> way, in henderson, everything is brand new right
00:03:42.137 --> 00:03:43.538
Everything is brand new right there in hendersonville.
00:03:43.605 --> 00:03:44.539
There in hendersonville. >> what's the name.
00:03:44.606 --> 00:03:45.507
>> what's the name. >> of it?
00:03:45.573 --> 00:03:45.774
>> of it? >> holiday express, holiday inn
00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:47.509
>> holiday express, holiday inn express, is it a holiday inn
00:03:47.575 --> 00:03:48.710
Express, is it a holiday inn express anyway?
00:03:48.777 --> 00:03:49.544
Express anyway? >> right by the studio.
00:03:49.611 --> 00:03:50.645
>> right by the studio. >> right there in
00:03:50.712 --> 00:03:51.680
>> right there in hendersonville, the one that
00:03:51.746 --> 00:03:52.814
Hendersonville, the one that that the tornado helped us
00:03:52.881 --> 00:03:54.616
That the tornado helped us renovate it.
00:03:54.683 --> 00:03:55.016
Renovate it. >> yeah.
00:03:55.083 --> 00:03:55.684
>> yeah. >> we had signed papers.
00:03:55.750 --> 00:03:57.452
>> we had signed papers. >> like eight days before.
00:03:57.519 --> 00:03:58.586
>> like eight days before. >> yeah, eight days before. and
00:03:58.653 --> 00:04:00.121
A tornado came by, ripped the
00:04:00.188 --> 00:04:02.157
A tornado came by, ripped the roof and insurance.
00:04:02.223 --> 00:04:04.693
Roof and insurance. >> and insurance helped us
00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:06.094
>> and insurance helped us completely renovate it.
00:04:06.161 --> 00:04:07.162
Completely renovate it. >> completely renovate the
00:04:07.228 --> 00:04:07.962
Whole place. so it's brand new,
00:04:08.029 --> 00:04:09.731
Whole place. so it's brand new, beautiful.
00:04:09.798 --> 00:04:10.732
Beautiful. >> so it's a little commercial
00:04:10.799 --> 00:04:12.200
>> so it's a little commercial for the holiday inn express in
00:04:12.267 --> 00:04:15.503
For the holiday inn express in hendersonville.
00:04:15.570 --> 00:04:16.237
Hendersonville. >> we just set the dinner table,
00:04:16.304 --> 00:04:18.673
>> we just set the dinner table, imaginary sushi right here
00:04:18.740 --> 00:04:20.842
Imaginary sushi right here talking. about the holiday inn
00:04:20.909 --> 00:04:22.644
Talking. about the holiday inn express.
00:04:22.711 --> 00:04:24.846
Express. >> okay, you pastor a big
00:04:24.913 --> 00:04:28.049
>> okay, you pastor a big church in lakeland, florida,
00:04:28.116 --> 00:04:30.385
Church in lakeland, florida, not lakeland, jackson,
00:04:30.452 --> 00:04:31.653
Not lakeland, jackson, jacksonville, florida. and the
00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.189
Jacksonville, florida. and the reason i said lakeland is
00:04:34.255 --> 00:04:35.557
Reason i said lakeland is because i thought of the school.
00:04:35.623 --> 00:04:37.125
Because i thought of the school. what's the school's icu?
00:04:37.192 --> 00:04:38.259
What's the school's icu? >> yeah.
00:04:38.326 --> 00:04:38.526
>> yeah. >> so my, my grandfather
00:04:38.593 --> 00:04:40.729
>> so my, my grandfather founded it. so it's incredible.
00:04:40.795 --> 00:04:42.097
Founded it. so it's incredible. yeah. edgar bethany was the
00:04:42.163 --> 00:04:44.199
Yeah. edgar bethany was the first and the third president
00:04:44.265 --> 00:04:47.902
First and the third president of southeastern university. my
00:04:47.969 --> 00:04:50.405
Of southeastern university. my mom and my grandfather found
00:04:50.472 --> 00:04:52.307
Mom and my grandfather found the property in lakeland. my
00:04:52.374 --> 00:04:54.342
The property in lakeland. my mom, as a young girl, went with
00:04:54.409 --> 00:04:56.544
Mom, as a young girl, went with her dad. they bought the
00:04:56.611 --> 00:04:58.613
Her dad. they bought the lakeland property where
00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:00.148
Lakeland property where southeastern university is in
00:05:00.215 --> 00:05:01.916
Southeastern university is in there. there's a big bethany
00:05:01.983 --> 00:05:03.017
There. there's a big bethany hall. that's my grandfather.
00:05:03.084 --> 00:05:04.285
Hall. that's my grandfather. >> that's incredible.
00:05:04.352 --> 00:05:05.453
>> that's incredible. >> to bring it a little bit
00:05:05.520 --> 00:05:07.322
>> to bring it a little bit closer, celebration church has
00:05:07.389 --> 00:05:09.057
Closer, celebration church has the second largest icu
00:05:09.124 --> 00:05:11.659
The second largest icu satellite location in wsu's
00:05:11.726 --> 00:05:14.162
Satellite location in wsu's network.
00:05:14.229 --> 00:05:14.529
Network. >> oh right on. that's awesome.
00:05:14.596 --> 00:05:16.631
>> oh right on. that's awesome. >> well, we're practically
00:05:16.698 --> 00:05:18.133
>> well, we're practically family. here we are again. more
00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:20.301
Family. here we are again. more family.
00:05:20.368 --> 00:05:20.668
Family. >> i love it.
00:05:20.735 --> 00:05:21.436
>> i love it. >> okay, acts seven, set the
00:05:21.503 --> 00:05:25.306
>> okay, acts seven, set the stage. you're the preacher. do
00:05:25.373 --> 00:05:26.841
Stage. you're the preacher. do your thing. we're here to. amen.
00:05:26.908 --> 00:05:29.377
Your thing. we're here to. amen. >> you. absolutely. just kind
00:05:29.444 --> 00:05:30.812
>> you. absolutely. just kind of thinking through our time
00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:32.847
Of thinking through our time together and the season that
00:05:32.914 --> 00:05:34.015
Together and the season that we're in as humanity and what
00:05:34.082 --> 00:05:36.484
We're in as humanity and what we see happening around the
00:05:36.551 --> 00:05:38.286
We see happening around the world. you know, i've really
00:05:38.353 --> 00:05:40.188
World. you know, i've really been kind of mulling over this,
00:05:40.255 --> 00:05:42.257
Been kind of mulling over this, this thought that both faith
00:05:42.323 --> 00:05:44.859
This thought that both faith and fear require our
00:05:44.926 --> 00:05:47.629
And fear require our imagination.
00:05:47.695 --> 00:05:49.063
Imagination. >> okay.
00:05:49.130 --> 00:05:49.664
>> okay. >> one, it paints the picture
00:05:49.731 --> 00:05:51.900
>> one, it paints the picture that you're defeated. another
00:05:51.966 --> 00:05:53.735
That you're defeated. another paints the picture of
00:05:53.802 --> 00:05:55.537
Paints the picture of deliverance. right now, in this
00:05:55.603 --> 00:05:57.238
Deliverance. right now, in this time, we have an opportunity to
00:05:57.305 --> 00:05:59.507
Time, we have an opportunity to speak into one of two of those
00:05:59.574 --> 00:06:02.343
Speak into one of two of those narratives. and as the body of
00:06:02.410 --> 00:06:04.145
Narratives. and as the body of christ, as the bride of christ,
00:06:04.212 --> 00:06:05.980
Christ, as the bride of christ, we have to choose to speak into
00:06:06.047 --> 00:06:08.483
We have to choose to speak into how can we help people come out
00:06:08.550 --> 00:06:11.019
How can we help people come out of the things that they feel
00:06:11.085 --> 00:06:12.420
Of the things that they feel stuck in? how can we help
00:06:12.487 --> 00:06:13.888
Stuck in? how can we help people navigate the various and
00:06:13.955 --> 00:06:16.157
People navigate the various and tumultuous seasons of life with
00:06:16.224 --> 00:06:17.459
Tumultuous seasons of life with everything going on, and find
00:06:17.525 --> 00:06:19.027
Everything going on, and find hope in jesus christ? and the
00:06:19.093 --> 00:06:21.162
Hope in jesus christ? and the holy spirit led me to this
00:06:21.229 --> 00:06:22.764
Holy spirit led me to this passage in acts chapter seven,
00:06:22.831 --> 00:06:25.333
Passage in acts chapter seven, beginning at verse 56. a very
00:06:25.400 --> 00:06:29.370
Beginning at verse 56. a very interesting text to find hope
00:06:29.437 --> 00:06:30.872
Interesting text to find hope in, because it's the end of
00:06:30.939 --> 00:06:32.574
In, because it's the end of stefan's life. and acts chapter
00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:35.176
Stefan's life. and acts chapter seven is the longest recorded
00:06:35.243 --> 00:06:36.945
Seven is the longest recorded sermon in all of the acts of
00:06:37.011 --> 00:06:38.580
Sermon in all of the acts of the apostles.
00:06:38.646 --> 00:06:38.913
The apostles. >> my goodness.
00:06:38.980 --> 00:06:39.848
>> my goodness. >> and stefan is teaching the
00:06:39.914 --> 00:06:41.916
>> and stefan is teaching the sanhedrin council that they are
00:06:41.983 --> 00:06:44.085
Sanhedrin council that they are repeating a cycle that their
00:06:44.152 --> 00:06:45.954
Repeating a cycle that their forefathers have done for
00:06:46.020 --> 00:06:47.722
Forefathers have done for centuries on. and this cycle
00:06:47.789 --> 00:06:49.157
Centuries on. and this cycle that they're repeating is that
00:06:49.224 --> 00:06:50.892
That they're repeating is that god sends them a deliverer.
00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:53.094
God sends them a deliverer. they reject the deliverer, they
00:06:53.161 --> 00:06:54.929
They reject the deliverer, they get back into bondage, they
00:06:54.996 --> 00:06:57.098
Get back into bondage, they plead with god to deliver them
00:06:57.165 --> 00:06:58.900
Plead with god to deliver them again. and god sends another
00:06:58.967 --> 00:07:01.069
Again. and god sends another deliverer, and they reject him.
00:07:01.135 --> 00:07:02.470
Deliverer, and they reject him. and so in this passage for
00:07:02.537 --> 00:07:04.606
And so in this passage for context, the sanhedrin council
00:07:04.672 --> 00:07:06.808
Context, the sanhedrin council are accusing stefan of doing
00:07:06.875 --> 00:07:08.977
Are accusing stefan of doing three things blaspheming god,
00:07:09.043 --> 00:07:12.247
Three things blaspheming god, blaspheming moses, and
00:07:12.313 --> 00:07:13.681
Blaspheming moses, and blaspheming the temple. and
00:07:13.748 --> 00:07:15.116
Blaspheming the temple. and this is at the conclusion of
00:07:15.183 --> 00:07:16.518
This is at the conclusion of his life. verse 56 in acts
00:07:16.584 --> 00:07:18.987
His life. verse 56 in acts chapter seven says, and he said,
00:07:19.053 --> 00:07:22.290
Chapter seven says, and he said, behold, i see the heavens
00:07:22.357 --> 00:07:24.425
Behold, i see the heavens opened, and the son of man
00:07:24.492 --> 00:07:26.294
Opened, and the son of man standing at the right hand of
00:07:26.361 --> 00:07:28.029
Standing at the right hand of god. but they shouted with loud
00:07:28.096 --> 00:07:30.565
God. but they shouted with loud voices, and covered their ears,
00:07:30.632 --> 00:07:32.300
And rushed at him with one mind.
00:07:32.367 --> 00:07:34.469
And rushed at him with one mind. when they had driven him out of
00:07:34.536 --> 00:07:36.204
When they had driven him out of the city, they began stoning
00:07:36.271 --> 00:07:38.406
The city, they began stoning him, and the witnesses laid
00:07:38.473 --> 00:07:40.642
Him, and the witnesses laid aside their cloaks at the feet
00:07:40.708 --> 00:07:42.877
Aside their cloaks at the feet of a young man named saul. and
00:07:42.944 --> 00:07:45.780
Of a young man named saul. and as i read this, it dawned on me
00:07:45.847 --> 00:07:48.883
As i read this, it dawned on me how we suffer, how we handle
00:07:48.950 --> 00:07:52.153
Persecution could be the very
00:07:52.220 --> 00:07:53.888
Persecution could be the very thing that leads someone else
00:07:53.955 --> 00:07:55.723
Thing that leads someone else to salvation.
00:07:55.790 --> 00:07:57.158
To salvation. >> whoa!
00:07:57.225 --> 00:07:58.226
>> whoa! >> this saw that we find here
00:07:58.293 --> 00:07:59.460
>> this saw that we find here in this text. he goes on to
00:07:59.527 --> 00:08:01.596
In this text. he goes on to become paul. he writes most of
00:08:01.663 --> 00:08:03.765
Become paul. he writes most of the new testament, and i truly
00:08:03.831 --> 00:08:05.867
The new testament, and i truly believe that the way he saw
00:08:05.934 --> 00:08:07.969
Believe that the way he saw stefan handled the last moments
00:08:08.036 --> 00:08:09.537
Stefan handled the last moments of his life, the testimony, the
00:08:09.604 --> 00:08:11.339
Of his life, the testimony, the witness, he he did not talk
00:08:11.406 --> 00:08:12.674
Witness, he he did not talk about the people that were
00:08:12.740 --> 00:08:13.775
About the people that were accusing him. he did not talk
00:08:13.841 --> 00:08:15.443
Accusing him. he did not talk about the people that were
00:08:15.510 --> 00:08:16.511
About the people that were stoning him. scripture says he
00:08:16.578 --> 00:08:17.645
Stoning him. scripture says he turned his gaze to heaven. he
00:08:17.712 --> 00:08:19.414
Turned his gaze to heaven. he sees heaven open up. he sees
00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:20.548
Sees heaven open up. he sees the glory of god, and then he
00:08:20.615 --> 00:08:22.483
The glory of god, and then he sees the son of man standing at
00:08:22.550 --> 00:08:24.719
Sees the son of man standing at the right hand of the father.
00:08:24.786 --> 00:08:26.888
The right hand of the father. this is intriguing because
00:08:26.955 --> 00:08:27.956
This is intriguing because every other passage says that
00:08:28.022 --> 00:08:29.991
Jesus is seated at the right
00:08:30.058 --> 00:08:32.093
Jesus is seated at the right hand of the father, which
00:08:32.160 --> 00:08:33.928
Hand of the father, which allows us to know that when we
00:08:33.995 --> 00:08:36.230
Allows us to know that when we stand for jesus in the midst of
00:08:36.297 --> 00:08:37.799
Stand for jesus in the midst of difficult and hard times, jesus
00:08:37.865 --> 00:08:40.401
Difficult and hard times, jesus stands for us.
00:08:40.468 --> 00:08:41.202
Stands for us. >> my goodness.
00:08:41.269 --> 00:08:42.270
>> my goodness. >> and so saul, he sees stefan
00:08:42.337 --> 00:08:44.772
>> and so saul, he sees stefan suffer and it it sears his soul.
00:08:44.839 --> 00:08:48.710
Suffer and it it sears his soul. i believe the mercy that stefan
00:08:48.776 --> 00:08:51.579
I believe the mercy that stefan showed everyone that was
00:08:51.646 --> 00:08:52.914
Showed everyone that was stoning him and accusing him
00:08:52.981 --> 00:08:55.083
Seared the soul of saul where
00:08:55.149 --> 00:08:56.584
Seared the soul of saul where he could not shake that image.
00:08:56.651 --> 00:08:58.052
He could not shake that image. this man did not accuse us. he
00:08:58.119 --> 00:08:59.687
This man did not accuse us. he did not. he did not ask us to
00:08:59.754 --> 00:09:02.657
Did not. he did not ask us to stop. his gaze was fixed on
00:09:02.724 --> 00:09:05.627
Stop. his gaze was fixed on jesus. and i asked myself this
00:09:05.693 --> 00:09:07.395
Jesus. and i asked myself this question, how can a person
00:09:07.462 --> 00:09:10.331
Question, how can a person being stoned have their gaze
00:09:10.398 --> 00:09:14.002
Being stoned have their gaze fixed on jesus and not be
00:09:14.068 --> 00:09:16.037
Fixed on jesus and not be focused on what's happening
00:09:16.104 --> 00:09:17.171
Focused on what's happening around them?
00:09:17.238 --> 00:09:18.640
Around them? >> how did he not become a
00:09:18.706 --> 00:09:20.375
>> how did he not become a victim and start yelling out?
00:09:20.441 --> 00:09:22.243
Victim and start yelling out? and, you know.
00:09:22.310 --> 00:09:23.611
And, you know. >> and in this particular time
00:09:23.678 --> 00:09:25.079
>> and in this particular time period, stoning was not picking
00:09:25.146 --> 00:09:26.781
Period, stoning was not picking up pebbles. yeah. it wasn't
00:09:26.848 --> 00:09:28.349
Up pebbles. yeah. it wasn't throwing rocks. yeah. it was,
00:09:28.416 --> 00:09:29.851
Throwing rocks. yeah. it was, it was you were buried neck
00:09:29.917 --> 00:09:31.919
It was you were buried neck deep. and they would take small
00:09:31.986 --> 00:09:34.155
Deep. and they would take small boulders and try to crack your
00:09:34.222 --> 00:09:35.857
Boulders and try to crack your head open. and he's sitting
00:09:35.923 --> 00:09:37.625
Head open. and he's sitting here still proclaiming the
00:09:37.692 --> 00:09:39.827
Here still proclaiming the gospel of jesus christ in the
00:09:39.894 --> 00:09:41.195
Gospel of jesus christ in the face of these enemies and these
00:09:41.262 --> 00:09:43.031
Face of these enemies and these people stoning him. i just
00:09:43.097 --> 00:09:44.632
People stoning him. i just asked myself the question, how
00:09:44.699 --> 00:09:45.767
Asked myself the question, how could a person do that? well,
00:09:45.833 --> 00:09:47.535
Could a person do that? well, what would bring a person to
00:09:47.602 --> 00:09:48.903
What would bring a person to have such boldness and such
00:09:48.970 --> 00:09:51.406
Have such boldness and such courage and such a tenacity?
00:09:51.472 --> 00:09:53.574
Courage and such a tenacity? and the only thing that i could
00:09:53.641 --> 00:09:54.942
And the only thing that i could come to a conclusion with is
00:09:55.009 --> 00:09:56.377
Come to a conclusion with is that he feared god. he feared
00:09:56.444 --> 00:09:59.313
That he feared god. he feared god more than he feared the
00:09:59.380 --> 00:10:02.183
God more than he feared the repercussions of the men and
00:10:02.250 --> 00:10:03.284
Repercussions of the men and women that were stoning him.
00:10:03.351 --> 00:10:05.720
Women that were stoning him. and the holy spirit led me back
00:10:05.787 --> 00:10:06.921
And the holy spirit led me back to this passage in acts chapter
00:10:06.988 --> 00:10:08.856
To this passage in acts chapter six, verse ten, where it says,
00:10:08.923 --> 00:10:09.991
Six, verse ten, where it says, he was full of the holy spirit,
00:10:10.058 --> 00:10:11.993
He was full of the holy spirit, and he was full of wisdom. it
00:10:12.060 --> 00:10:15.163
And he was full of wisdom. it was interesting to me because
00:10:15.229 --> 00:10:16.364
Was interesting to me because it didn't say he was full of
00:10:16.431 --> 00:10:17.965
It didn't say he was full of the holy spirit. and as a
00:10:18.032 --> 00:10:19.133
The holy spirit. and as a result, he was full of power.
00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.235
Result, he was full of power. it said full of wisdom. so i
00:10:21.302 --> 00:10:24.072
It said full of wisdom. so i started to dig and asked myself
00:10:24.138 --> 00:10:25.873
Started to dig and asked myself the question, okay, if he
00:10:25.940 --> 00:10:26.941
The question, okay, if he feared god, he was full of the
00:10:27.008 --> 00:10:28.876
Feared god, he was full of the holy spirit. he was full of
00:10:28.943 --> 00:10:30.011
Holy spirit. he was full of wisdom. what does this mean for
00:10:30.078 --> 00:10:31.879
Wisdom. what does this mean for me? or what does this mean for
00:10:31.946 --> 00:10:33.114
Me? or what does this mean for the people that are reading
00:10:33.181 --> 00:10:34.882
The people that are reading this? what does this mean for
00:10:34.949 --> 00:10:36.050
This? what does this mean for us now in 2026? then i remember
00:10:36.117 --> 00:10:38.453
Us now in 2026? then i remember proverbs chapter nine, verse
00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:39.487
Proverbs chapter nine, verse ten. the fear of god is the
00:10:39.554 --> 00:10:42.790
Ten. the fear of god is the beginning of all wisdom. and so
00:10:42.857 --> 00:10:45.259
Beginning of all wisdom. and so scripture says he was full of
00:10:45.326 --> 00:10:47.095
Scripture says he was full of wisdom. then the fear and the
00:10:47.161 --> 00:10:48.930
Wisdom. then the fear and the reverence he had for god must
00:10:48.996 --> 00:10:50.398
Reverence he had for god must have been unlike anything we've
00:10:50.465 --> 00:10:52.133
Have been unlike anything we've ever seen before, and he could
00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.969
Ever seen before, and he could stand, kneel, die, getting
00:10:55.036 --> 00:10:57.905
Stand, kneel, die, getting stoned, and still have his eyes
00:10:57.972 --> 00:11:00.775
Stoned, and still have his eyes and his gaze fixed on jesus.
00:11:00.842 --> 00:11:03.077
And his gaze fixed on jesus. that just blew me away.
00:11:03.144 --> 00:11:04.712
That just blew me away. >> wow.
00:11:04.779 --> 00:11:05.480
>> wow. >> yeah.
00:11:05.546 --> 00:11:06.180
>> yeah. >> wow. so take away that takes
00:11:06.247 --> 00:11:09.050
>> wow. so take away that takes away all the excuses.
00:11:09.117 --> 00:11:10.852
Away all the excuses. >> absolutely.
00:11:10.918 --> 00:11:11.586
>> absolutely. >> you're not pointing fingers
00:11:11.652 --> 00:11:12.854
>> you're not pointing fingers at anybody?
00:11:12.920 --> 00:11:13.755
At anybody? >> no.
00:11:13.821 --> 00:11:14.789
>> no. >> so the excuses, the blame,
00:11:14.856 --> 00:11:17.759
>> so the excuses, the blame, all of that.
00:11:17.825 --> 00:11:19.160
All of that. >> we often use the excuse all
00:11:19.227 --> 00:11:20.628
>> we often use the excuse all the time when we. we see the
00:11:20.695 --> 00:11:23.164
The time when we. we see the crucifixion of jesus and we we
00:11:23.231 --> 00:11:24.899
Crucifixion of jesus and we we say, okay, he was perfect
00:11:24.966 --> 00:11:27.034
Say, okay, he was perfect without spot, without blemish.
00:11:27.101 --> 00:11:28.836
Without spot, without blemish. he did no wrong. he never
00:11:28.903 --> 00:11:32.073
He did no wrong. he never sinned. and we say, i'm not
00:11:32.140 --> 00:11:33.841
Sinned. and we say, i'm not jesus as he's on the cross. he
00:11:33.908 --> 00:11:36.110
Jesus as he's on the cross. he says, forgive them, for they
00:11:36.177 --> 00:11:37.879
Says, forgive them, for they know not what they do. and we
00:11:37.945 --> 00:11:39.714
Know not what they do. and we say, jesus was perfect god in
00:11:39.781 --> 00:11:41.816
Say, jesus was perfect god in human flesh. but stefan, he was
00:11:41.883 --> 00:11:44.418
Human flesh. but stefan, he was a man. he was a human with no
00:11:44.485 --> 00:11:47.922
A man. he was a human with no special powers. and here he is
00:11:47.989 --> 00:11:50.091
Special powers. and here he is at the end of his life.
00:11:50.158 --> 00:11:51.893
At the end of his life. scripture teaches us that his
00:11:51.959 --> 00:11:53.694
Scripture teaches us that his final words, which jesus
00:11:53.761 --> 00:11:56.130
Final words, which jesus receive my spirit and father,
00:11:56.197 --> 00:11:59.133
Receive my spirit and father, forgive them, for they know not
00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.636
Forgive them, for they know not what they do. when i read this,
00:12:01.702 --> 00:12:04.539
What they do. when i read this, i'm reminded that what hurts
00:12:04.605 --> 00:12:07.074
I'm reminded that what hurts you doesn't have the authority
00:12:07.141 --> 00:12:09.010
You doesn't have the authority to hush you unless you give it
00:12:09.076 --> 00:12:11.712
To hush you unless you give it authority. and no one can
00:12:11.779 --> 00:12:14.315
Authority. and no one can change how you approach the
00:12:14.382 --> 00:12:16.017
Change how you approach the throne. when you desire to
00:12:16.083 --> 00:12:17.785
Throne. when you desire to approach the throne, only you
00:12:17.852 --> 00:12:19.987
Approach the throne, only you can. that's profound to me.
00:12:20.054 --> 00:12:22.957
Can. that's profound to me. >> so. it upsets a little bit
00:12:23.024 --> 00:12:27.328
>> so. it upsets a little bit of an apple cart from a
00:12:27.395 --> 00:12:30.464
Of an apple cart from a theological, theological
00:12:30.531 --> 00:12:32.266
Theological, theological standpoint of some of the
00:12:32.333 --> 00:12:34.435
Standpoint of some of the things that we were raised in.
00:12:34.502 --> 00:12:39.407
Things that we were raised in. because if something bad
00:12:39.473 --> 00:12:42.043
Because if something bad happened, that's because you
00:12:42.109 --> 00:12:43.477
Happened, that's because you didn't pray enough.
00:12:43.544 --> 00:12:44.412
Didn't pray enough. >> oh, man.
00:12:44.478 --> 00:12:44.912
>> oh, man. >> yeah. you know, if something
00:12:44.979 --> 00:12:46.647
>> yeah. you know, if something bad happened.
00:12:46.714 --> 00:12:47.481
Bad happened. >> didn't believe.
00:12:47.548 --> 00:12:48.049
>> didn't believe. >> enough, you didn't believe
00:12:48.115 --> 00:12:49.250
>> enough, you didn't believe enough. you didn't believe hard
00:12:49.317 --> 00:12:50.685
Enough. you didn't believe hard enough. we seem to be, thank
00:12:50.751 --> 00:12:54.555
Enough. we seem to be, thank god in a season. and again, you
00:12:54.622 --> 00:12:58.259
God in a season. and again, you realize we're like almost
00:12:58.326 --> 00:12:59.560
Realize we're like almost halfway through 2026, which is
00:12:59.627 --> 00:13:02.830
Halfway through 2026, which is just shocking to say, but but
00:13:02.897 --> 00:13:07.201
Just shocking to say, but but basically we're talking about
00:13:07.268 --> 00:13:10.738
Basically we're talking about something that i wouldn't have
00:13:10.805 --> 00:13:12.607
Something that i wouldn't have heard that preach that way when
00:13:12.673 --> 00:13:15.509
Heard that preach that way when i was younger.
00:13:15.576 --> 00:13:17.612
I was younger. >> yes.
00:13:17.678 --> 00:13:18.379
>> yes. >> it would have been nothing
00:13:18.446 --> 00:13:20.781
>> it would have been nothing bad should ever happen. if
00:13:20.848 --> 00:13:23.351
Bad should ever happen. if you're praying and if you're
00:13:23.417 --> 00:13:24.785
You're praying and if you're doing enough right, and if
00:13:24.852 --> 00:13:26.320
Doing enough right, and if you're believing enough and
00:13:26.387 --> 00:13:28.055
You're believing enough and that kind of thing.
00:13:28.122 --> 00:13:29.156
That kind of thing. >> i think that we miss a great
00:13:29.223 --> 00:13:32.226
>> i think that we miss a great portion of scripture if that is
00:13:32.293 --> 00:13:34.595
Portion of scripture if that is our perspective. you know,
00:13:34.662 --> 00:13:36.063
Our perspective. you know, there are verses that i'm
00:13:36.130 --> 00:13:37.598
There are verses that i'm reminded of that teach us after
00:13:37.665 --> 00:13:39.267
Reminded of that teach us after you have suffered for a little
00:13:39.333 --> 00:13:42.069
You have suffered for a little while. he himself will lift you,
00:13:42.136 --> 00:13:46.807
While. he himself will lift you, guide you, keep you. and so if
00:13:46.874 --> 00:13:49.310
Guide you, keep you. and so if there is no suffering, we miss
00:13:49.377 --> 00:13:52.580
There is no suffering, we miss so many different aspects and
00:13:52.647 --> 00:13:55.449
So many different aspects and characteristics of god. i truly
00:13:55.516 --> 00:13:57.151
Characteristics of god. i truly believe this. you don't get a
00:13:57.218 --> 00:13:59.086
Believe this. you don't get a heavenly vision from god
00:13:59.153 --> 00:14:01.155
Heavenly vision from god without earthly opposition. you
00:14:01.222 --> 00:14:04.058
Without earthly opposition. you don't get the fruit of god. you
00:14:04.125 --> 00:14:06.594
Don't get the fruit of god. you don't get the remnants of what
00:14:06.661 --> 00:14:08.696
Don't get the remnants of what god has left here in the earth.
00:14:08.763 --> 00:14:10.331
God has left here in the earth. the blessings and the
00:14:10.398 --> 00:14:11.332
The blessings and the breakthrough of god. without
00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:12.333
Breakthrough of god. without earthly opposition. god. he
00:14:12.400 --> 00:14:14.769
Earthly opposition. god. he will trust you with the things
00:14:14.835 --> 00:14:16.971
Will trust you with the things he knows he can trust you with.
00:14:17.038 --> 00:14:18.806
He knows he can trust you with. as long as you continue to
00:14:18.873 --> 00:14:20.508
As long as you continue to point back to him, even in
00:14:20.574 --> 00:14:22.710
Point back to him, even in seasons of pain. he taught me
00:14:22.777 --> 00:14:24.578
Seasons of pain. he taught me this. when we look at the life
00:14:24.645 --> 00:14:26.847
This. when we look at the life of job, we often look at, okay,
00:14:26.914 --> 00:14:28.816
Of job, we often look at, okay, all these things were stripped
00:14:28.883 --> 00:14:29.917
All these things were stripped away from him. all these things
00:14:29.984 --> 00:14:31.686
Away from him. all these things were removed from him. his
00:14:31.752 --> 00:14:32.753
Were removed from him. his family died, he was stricken
00:14:32.820 --> 00:14:34.121
Family died, he was stricken with boils, and he still turns
00:14:34.188 --> 00:14:36.857
With boils, and he still turns his attention back to god and
00:14:36.924 --> 00:14:38.292
His attention back to god and his friends. tell him, you
00:14:38.359 --> 00:14:39.694
His friends. tell him, you should curse that god. and we
00:14:39.760 --> 00:14:41.862
Should curse that god. and we see him complaining and we see
00:14:41.929 --> 00:14:43.597
See him complaining and we see him asking god why? and we see
00:14:43.664 --> 00:14:44.799
Him asking god why? and we see all these things. and the thing
00:14:44.865 --> 00:14:46.701
All these things. and the thing that sticks out to me is that
00:14:46.767 --> 00:14:48.569
That sticks out to me is that he's not talking to his friends
00:14:48.636 --> 00:14:49.804
He's not talking to his friends about what god did or did not
00:14:49.870 --> 00:14:51.639
About what god did or did not do. he's talking to god. that
00:14:51.706 --> 00:14:54.208
Do. he's talking to god. that in and of itself is prayer.
00:14:54.275 --> 00:14:56.210
In and of itself is prayer. >> yeah.
00:14:56.277 --> 00:14:56.544
>> yeah. >> that in and of itself is
00:14:56.610 --> 00:14:58.446
>> that in and of itself is worship.
00:14:58.512 --> 00:14:59.180
Worship. >> so how how old were you when
00:14:59.246 --> 00:15:02.016
>> so how how old were you when your mom and daddy were like
00:15:02.083 --> 00:15:05.252
Your mom and daddy were like first involved in tbn? you were
00:15:05.319 --> 00:15:07.054
First involved in tbn? you were a young guy.
00:15:07.121 --> 00:15:07.455
A young guy. >> oh man. they probably got
00:15:07.521 --> 00:15:09.557
>> oh man. they probably got involved with tbn before i was
00:15:09.623 --> 00:15:12.126
Involved with tbn before i was born. okay. and they, they
00:15:12.193 --> 00:15:13.494
Born. okay. and they, they stayed connected to tbn up
00:15:13.561 --> 00:15:15.763
Stayed connected to tbn up until my father went home to
00:15:15.830 --> 00:15:17.832
Until my father went home to glory. and so for.
00:15:17.898 --> 00:15:19.000
Glory. and so for. >> years, all of your life.
00:15:19.066 --> 00:15:20.134
>> years, all of your life. >> all of my life.
00:15:20.201 --> 00:15:21.902
>> all of my life. >> okay, so you, you would have
00:15:21.969 --> 00:15:23.170
>> okay, so you, you would have been around and maybe your
00:15:23.237 --> 00:15:24.905
Been around and maybe your parents would have hosted a
00:15:24.972 --> 00:15:25.940
Parents would have hosted a living, breathing example of
00:15:26.007 --> 00:15:28.242
Living, breathing example of jobe maybe is dave reaver. yes.
00:15:28.309 --> 00:15:30.811
Jobe maybe is dave reaver. yes. so dave reaver, horribly
00:15:30.878 --> 00:15:33.314
So dave reaver, horribly wounded by a hand grenade that
00:15:33.381 --> 00:15:35.416
Wounded by a hand grenade that i remember the vietnam war. and,
00:15:35.483 --> 00:15:37.952
I remember the vietnam war. and, and, you know, i'm reminded of
00:15:38.019 --> 00:15:40.121
And, you know, i'm reminded of of and the subject we're on,
00:15:40.187 --> 00:15:43.024
Of and the subject we're on, just to be clear, is, you know,
00:15:43.090 --> 00:15:48.462
Just to be clear, is, you know, the first martyr of the church.
00:15:48.529 --> 00:15:50.564
The first martyr of the church. >> yes.
00:15:50.631 --> 00:15:51.699
>> yes. >> stephen or stephan, you've
00:15:51.766 --> 00:15:53.134
>> stephen or stephan, you've been saying. stephan. that's
00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:54.935
Been saying. stephan. that's probably more correct. and he
00:15:55.002 --> 00:15:59.206
Probably more correct. and he didn't do anything but bless
00:15:59.273 --> 00:16:01.342
Didn't do anything but bless the people. so we're there's a
00:16:01.409 --> 00:16:03.177
The people. so we're there's a subject we're in which that was
00:16:03.244 --> 00:16:06.847
Subject we're in which that was bad. yeah. you're being stoned
00:16:06.914 --> 00:16:08.182
Bad. yeah. you're being stoned to death. that is not good.
00:16:08.249 --> 00:16:10.017
To death. that is not good. that's bad. okay. and all he's
00:16:10.084 --> 00:16:12.920
That's bad. okay. and all he's doing is keeping his gaze on
00:16:12.987 --> 00:16:17.992
Doing is keeping his gaze on jesus and asking for jesus not
00:16:18.059 --> 00:16:20.895
Jesus and asking for jesus not to blame them. and that brought
00:16:20.961 --> 00:16:24.865
To blame them. and that brought up the subject of that's not
00:16:24.932 --> 00:16:26.600
Up the subject of that's not the way we were taught, right?
00:16:26.667 --> 00:16:28.035
The way we were taught, right? bad things shouldn't happen.
00:16:28.102 --> 00:16:29.837
Bad things shouldn't happen. and i'm wondering if that's one
00:16:29.904 --> 00:16:31.372
And i'm wondering if that's one of the big divides between the
00:16:31.439 --> 00:16:33.441
Of the big divides between the charismatic denominations and
00:16:33.507 --> 00:16:34.575
Charismatic denominations and the non charismatics is the you
00:16:34.642 --> 00:16:37.044
The non charismatics is the you know, the baptists are going,
00:16:37.111 --> 00:16:38.145
Know, the baptists are going, you people are nuts, man. what
00:16:38.212 --> 00:16:40.047
You people are nuts, man. what are you talking about? like you
00:16:40.114 --> 00:16:42.116
Are you talking about? like you just said, you said it very
00:16:42.183 --> 00:16:43.517
Just said, you said it very dignified way. we don't get to
00:16:43.584 --> 00:16:46.320
Dignified way. we don't get to kind of integrate into a lot of
00:16:46.387 --> 00:16:48.856
Kind of integrate into a lot of scripture. if our theology says
00:16:48.923 --> 00:16:51.092
Scripture. if our theology says nothing bad should ever happen.
00:16:51.158 --> 00:16:52.293
Nothing bad should ever happen. >> i'm telling.
00:16:52.359 --> 00:16:52.760
>> i'm telling. >> you right.
00:16:52.827 --> 00:16:53.627
>> you right. >> then everybody would be a
00:16:53.694 --> 00:16:54.695
>> then everybody would be a christian.
00:16:54.762 --> 00:16:55.496
Christian. >> yeah. you would just become
00:16:55.563 --> 00:16:56.697
>> yeah. you would just become a christian. so bad things
00:16:56.764 --> 00:16:57.898
A christian. so bad things wouldn't happen.
00:16:57.965 --> 00:16:58.632
Wouldn't happen. >> would not.
00:16:58.699 --> 00:16:59.500
>> would not. >> happen, was the okay, so
00:16:59.567 --> 00:17:00.835
>> happen, was the okay, so here's dave reaver. what a lot
00:17:00.901 --> 00:17:03.337
Here's dave reaver. what a lot of people don't know is on a
00:17:03.404 --> 00:17:05.873
Of people don't know is on a tbn set in dallas. not, not
00:17:05.940 --> 00:17:08.742
Tbn set in dallas. not, not this one, but the one that we
00:17:08.809 --> 00:17:10.644
This one, but the one that we have down in irving. dave
00:17:10.711 --> 00:17:12.746
Have down in irving. dave reaver had been suicidal most
00:17:12.813 --> 00:17:15.916
Reaver had been suicidal most every day of his life since the
00:17:15.983 --> 00:17:19.120
Every day of his life since the event.
00:17:19.186 --> 00:17:19.487
Event. >> yeah.
00:17:19.553 --> 00:17:20.921
>> yeah. >> and he was sitting there.
00:17:20.988 --> 00:17:22.556
>> and he was sitting there. now. he would go through
00:17:22.623 --> 00:17:24.558
Now. he would go through seasons of sucking that up. but
00:17:24.625 --> 00:17:25.960
Seasons of sucking that up. but there were, you know, how many
00:17:26.026 --> 00:17:28.963
There were, you know, how many hundreds of surgeries did he
00:17:29.029 --> 00:17:29.997
Hundreds of surgeries did he have? and, you know, all this
00:17:30.064 --> 00:17:31.198
Have? and, you know, all this kind of stuff is just crazy.
00:17:31.265 --> 00:17:34.268
Kind of stuff is just crazy. and, and physical pain that he
00:17:34.335 --> 00:17:36.370
And, and physical pain that he lived in. and he's sitting
00:17:36.437 --> 00:17:38.139
Lived in. and he's sitting there and my mom says to him,
00:17:38.205 --> 00:17:41.775
There and my mom says to him, like this, just out of the blue,
00:17:41.842 --> 00:17:44.645
Like this, just out of the blue, do you know why god allowed
00:17:44.712 --> 00:17:48.749
Do you know why god allowed this to happen to you, dave?
00:17:48.816 --> 00:17:51.218
This to happen to you, dave? >> davy.
00:17:51.285 --> 00:17:51.852
>> davy. >> davy. and he said internally
00:17:51.919 --> 00:17:57.258
>> davy. and he said internally it made him furiously mad. and
00:17:57.324 --> 00:18:02.263
It made him furiously mad. and his inner monologue was saying
00:18:02.329 --> 00:18:04.098
His inner monologue was saying things like, jan, look, you
00:18:04.165 --> 00:18:07.034
Things like, jan, look, you know, that is the $64 question.
00:18:07.101 --> 00:18:09.904
Know, that is the $64 question. and i've been thinking about
00:18:09.970 --> 00:18:11.372
And i've been thinking about that, you know, ever since it
00:18:11.438 --> 00:18:12.840
That, you know, ever since it happened. and i've never known
00:18:12.907 --> 00:18:15.075
Happened. and i've never known the answer to that. and i'm
00:18:15.142 --> 00:18:16.577
The answer to that. and i'm never going to know the answer
00:18:16.644 --> 00:18:17.778
Never going to know the answer to that. and, you know, blah,
00:18:17.845 --> 00:18:19.580
To that. and, you know, blah, blah, blah, you know, and he's
00:18:19.647 --> 00:18:20.748
Blah, blah, you know, and he's and he just, you know, because
00:18:20.814 --> 00:18:22.583
And he just, you know, because he's on television in front of
00:18:22.650 --> 00:18:23.751
He's on television in front of everybody, he says, well, jan,
00:18:23.817 --> 00:18:24.885
Everybody, he says, well, jan, no, i don't, you know, and, and
00:18:24.952 --> 00:18:27.655
No, i don't, you know, and, and she.
00:18:27.721 --> 00:18:28.255
She. >> you got the answer. you
00:18:28.322 --> 00:18:29.690
>> you got the answer. you wanted.
00:18:29.757 --> 00:18:29.924
Wanted. >> to say something very
00:18:29.990 --> 00:18:31.258
>> to say something very different.
00:18:31.325 --> 00:18:31.525
Different. >> than that.
00:18:31.592 --> 00:18:32.593
>> than that. >> and she said, because he
00:18:32.660 --> 00:18:36.263
>> and she said, because he knew he could trust you with
00:18:36.330 --> 00:18:38.299
Knew he could trust you with this.
00:18:38.365 --> 00:18:39.099
This. >> he could trust you with the
00:18:39.166 --> 00:18:40.868
>> he could trust you with the scars.
00:18:40.935 --> 00:18:41.268
Scars. >> with these scars. and he
00:18:41.335 --> 00:18:44.038
>> with these scars. and he said that on the inside, that
00:18:44.104 --> 00:18:50.911
Said that on the inside, that spirit just left him.
00:18:50.978 --> 00:18:53.847
Spirit just left him. >> he said, i was healed.
00:18:53.914 --> 00:18:55.049
>> he said, i was healed. >> i was completely and i have
00:18:55.115 --> 00:18:57.418
>> i was completely and i have not been suicidal. one day
00:18:57.484 --> 00:18:59.887
Not been suicidal. one day after that, my entire life, one
00:18:59.954 --> 00:19:02.489
After that, my entire life, one little. word of truth.
00:19:02.556 --> 00:19:04.325
Little. word of truth. >> speaking into somebody.
00:19:04.391 --> 00:19:05.392
>> speaking into somebody. >> which is which is largely
00:19:05.459 --> 00:19:08.262
>> which is which is largely kind of what our subject is.
00:19:08.329 --> 00:19:11.098
Kind of what our subject is. oddly. yeah, that there is a
00:19:11.165 --> 00:19:14.001
Oddly. yeah, that there is a reason for some of these things.
00:19:14.068 --> 00:19:16.136
Reason for some of these things. but if you start being the
00:19:16.203 --> 00:19:18.739
But if you start being the victim, you disqualify yourself.
00:19:18.806 --> 00:19:21.642
Victim, you disqualify yourself. go with that.
00:19:21.709 --> 00:19:21.976
Go with that. >> i'm telling you in this text,
00:19:22.042 --> 00:19:23.844
>> i'm telling you in this text, it says he's saying these
00:19:23.911 --> 00:19:25.446
It says he's saying these things and they cover their
00:19:25.512 --> 00:19:26.814
Things and they cover their ears, which which helps us to
00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.184
Ears, which which helps us to understand a powerful thing
00:19:30.251 --> 00:19:31.685
Understand a powerful thing about truth. if truth does not
00:19:31.752 --> 00:19:34.555
About truth. if truth does not transform you, truth will
00:19:34.622 --> 00:19:36.390
Transform you, truth will trigger you.
00:19:36.457 --> 00:19:37.391
Trigger you. >> hell.
00:19:37.458 --> 00:19:38.559
>> hell. >> there you go.
00:19:38.626 --> 00:19:39.560
>> there you go. >> we see that in 2026.
00:19:39.627 --> 00:19:41.495
>> we see that in 2026. >> we see it all over the place.
00:19:41.562 --> 00:19:43.931
>> we see it all over the place. and you have a you have a
00:19:43.998 --> 00:19:45.132
And you have a you have a choice that you have to make,
00:19:45.199 --> 00:19:47.034
Choice that you have to make, whether you are going to apply
00:19:47.101 --> 00:19:48.202
Whether you are going to apply the truth or whether you're
00:19:48.269 --> 00:19:49.937
The truth or whether you're going to reject the truth. and
00:19:50.004 --> 00:19:51.138
Going to reject the truth. and so in this text, you have one
00:19:51.205 --> 00:19:53.007
So in this text, you have one man seeing the glory of god.
00:19:53.073 --> 00:19:55.142
Man seeing the glory of god. his eyes are open and you have
00:19:55.209 --> 00:19:56.944
His eyes are open and you have another group of people that
00:19:57.011 --> 00:19:58.212
Another group of people that are blinded by their pride and
00:19:58.279 --> 00:19:59.880
Are blinded by their pride and their egos and their arrogance,
00:19:59.947 --> 00:20:01.915
Their egos and their arrogance, and they're rejecting this
00:20:01.982 --> 00:20:03.384
And they're rejecting this truth because this truth is
00:20:03.450 --> 00:20:05.219
Truth because this truth is triggering them. they don't
00:20:05.286 --> 00:20:06.220
Triggering them. they don't want this truth because this
00:20:06.287 --> 00:20:08.022
Want this truth because this truth means that they no longer
00:20:08.088 --> 00:20:09.890
Truth means that they no longer have control. and in this
00:20:09.957 --> 00:20:11.992
Have control. and in this particular day, they want it
00:20:12.059 --> 00:20:13.794
Particular day, they want it controlled. they want it to
00:20:13.861 --> 00:20:14.862
Controlled. they want it to keep control. and it, it helps
00:20:14.928 --> 00:20:17.798
Keep control. and it, it helps us to understand something so
00:20:17.865 --> 00:20:19.500
Us to understand something so powerful and profound about
00:20:19.566 --> 00:20:21.268
Powerful and profound about revelation. when you get a
00:20:21.335 --> 00:20:22.770
Revelation. when you get a revelation, a true revelation
00:20:22.836 --> 00:20:23.837
Revelation, a true revelation of jesus christ, it will
00:20:23.904 --> 00:20:26.307
Of jesus christ, it will elevate your thinking, but it
00:20:26.373 --> 00:20:27.775
Elevate your thinking, but it will isolate you socially, okay?
00:20:27.841 --> 00:20:30.377
Will isolate you socially, okay? and you have to be willing to
00:20:30.444 --> 00:20:31.912
And you have to be willing to be isolated socially to carry
00:20:31.979 --> 00:20:34.348
Be isolated socially to carry not your truth. we hear that
00:20:34.415 --> 00:20:35.849
Not your truth. we hear that all the time. my truth, my
00:20:35.916 --> 00:20:37.685
All the time. my truth, my truth. that's garbage.
00:20:37.751 --> 00:20:39.687
Truth. that's garbage. >> right?
00:20:39.753 --> 00:20:40.387
>> right? >> nobody cares about your
00:20:40.454 --> 00:20:42.189
>> nobody cares about your truth if it does not align with
00:20:42.256 --> 00:20:44.391
Truth if it does not align with the truth of the gospel of
00:20:44.458 --> 00:20:46.627
The truth of the gospel of jesus christ. and when this is
00:20:46.694 --> 00:20:48.729
Jesus christ. and when this is applied, it transforms you. it
00:20:48.796 --> 00:20:50.864
Applied, it transforms you. it changes you. it fixes your gaze
00:20:50.931 --> 00:20:52.366
Changes you. it fixes your gaze on jesus so that you're no
00:20:52.433 --> 00:20:54.368
On jesus so that you're no longer bothered or deterred
00:20:54.435 --> 00:20:55.836
Longer bothered or deterred about the things that are
00:20:55.903 --> 00:20:56.570
About the things that are happening around you because
00:20:56.637 --> 00:20:58.439
Happening around you because your eyes are fixed on the one
00:20:58.505 --> 00:21:00.874
Your eyes are fixed on the one who controls your destiny.
00:21:00.941 --> 00:21:03.143
Who controls your destiny. >> give us. give us a little
00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:04.445
>> give us. give us a little more of those scriptural
00:21:04.511 --> 00:21:06.246
More of those scriptural examples. you were. you were
00:21:06.313 --> 00:21:08.482
Examples. you were. you were saying when you have suffered a
00:21:08.549 --> 00:21:10.651
Saying when you have suffered a little while. yes. so it
00:21:10.718 --> 00:21:13.554
Little while. yes. so it doesn't say if you're going to
00:21:13.620 --> 00:21:15.656
Doesn't say if you're going to suffer. no, it says when.
00:21:15.723 --> 00:21:17.825
Suffer. no, it says when. that's right. you have. so
00:21:17.891 --> 00:21:19.626
That's right. you have. so there's purpose to even the
00:21:19.693 --> 00:21:21.495
There's purpose to even the suffering.
00:21:21.562 --> 00:21:21.762
Suffering. >> it is.
00:21:21.829 --> 00:21:22.896
>> it is. >> well, so here's stephen just
00:21:22.963 --> 00:21:27.434
>> well, so here's stephen just sharing jesus. right. and they
00:21:27.501 --> 00:21:29.670
Sharing jesus. right. and they get so angry. but someone sees
00:21:29.737 --> 00:21:33.107
Get so angry. but someone sees him.
00:21:33.173 --> 00:21:33.307
Him. >> that's right.
00:21:33.374 --> 00:21:34.408
>> that's right. >> so the influence that
00:21:34.475 --> 00:21:36.877
>> so the influence that stephan stephen has on one man.
00:21:36.944 --> 00:21:39.780
Stephan stephen has on one man. that's right. just a he was
00:21:39.847 --> 00:21:42.316
That's right. just a he was holding his clothes, wasn't he?
00:21:42.383 --> 00:21:43.417
Holding his clothes, wasn't he? >> holding the coat.
00:21:43.484 --> 00:21:44.118
>> holding the coat. >> holding his. he was just
00:21:44.184 --> 00:21:45.786
>> holding his. he was just holding the cloaks.
00:21:45.853 --> 00:21:47.020
Holding the cloaks. >> so he has the. so we talk
00:21:47.087 --> 00:21:49.089
>> so he has the. so we talk about influence and and
00:21:49.156 --> 00:21:50.891
About influence and and speaking into people's lives.
00:21:50.958 --> 00:21:52.693
Speaking into people's lives. you never know who's watching
00:21:52.760 --> 00:21:54.695
You never know who's watching you. that's right. because that
00:21:54.762 --> 00:21:56.730
You. that's right. because that altered history influence
00:21:56.797 --> 00:21:58.465
Altered history influence doesn't have to have a
00:21:58.532 --> 00:21:59.566
Doesn't have to have a microphone. it doesn't have to
00:21:59.633 --> 00:22:00.601
Microphone. it doesn't have to have a platform. it just needs
00:22:00.667 --> 00:22:02.469
Have a platform. it just needs someone to, to work through.
00:22:02.536 --> 00:22:04.938
Someone to, to work through. >> that's so true.
00:22:05.005 --> 00:22:06.039
>> that's so true. >> doing, doing what god does
00:22:06.106 --> 00:22:08.542
>> doing, doing what god does on that, that transformation.
00:22:08.609 --> 00:22:10.277
On that, that transformation. >> what if you don't.
00:22:10.344 --> 00:22:11.311
>> what if you don't. >> honk your horn when somebody
00:22:11.378 --> 00:22:13.280
>> honk your horn when somebody cuts.
00:22:13.347 --> 00:22:13.547
Cuts. >> you off? that's right,
00:22:13.614 --> 00:22:15.349
>> you off? that's right, that's true.
00:22:15.416 --> 00:22:16.049
That's true. >> that's true. just a.
00:22:16.116 --> 00:22:16.750
>> that's true. just a. >> simple thing. just a simple
00:22:16.817 --> 00:22:18.485
>> simple thing. just a simple thing.
00:22:18.552 --> 00:22:18.685
Thing. >> the way people see you
00:22:18.752 --> 00:22:20.687
>> the way people see you suffer could be shaping their
00:22:20.754 --> 00:22:22.923
Suffer could be shaping their salvation. alters history.
00:22:22.990 --> 00:22:24.324
Salvation. alters history. >> that's right. look what paul
00:22:24.391 --> 00:22:25.759
>> that's right. look what paul is to us today.
00:22:25.826 --> 00:22:27.194
Is to us today. >> it you know, hebrews chapter
00:22:27.261 --> 00:22:29.029
>> it you know, hebrews chapter 11, we're faith people.
00:22:29.096 --> 00:22:30.097
11, we're faith people. >> yeah.
00:22:30.164 --> 00:22:30.831
>> yeah. >> we've been born raised
00:22:30.898 --> 00:22:32.633
>> we've been born raised around it. yeah. we know
00:22:32.699 --> 00:22:34.401
Around it. yeah. we know hebrews chapter 11, back and
00:22:34.468 --> 00:22:35.803
Hebrews chapter 11, back and forth. we call it the hall of
00:22:35.869 --> 00:22:37.671
Faith. but oftentimes we miss
00:22:37.738 --> 00:22:39.773
Faith. but oftentimes we miss the back half of hebrews
00:22:39.840 --> 00:22:41.375
The back half of hebrews chapter 11, and we only quote
00:22:41.442 --> 00:22:43.177
Chapter 11, and we only quote the first half by faith, by
00:22:43.243 --> 00:22:45.212
Faith, by faith, and we stand
00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:46.647
Faith, by faith, and we stand on faith, but we don't like to
00:22:46.713 --> 00:22:48.449
On faith, but we don't like to read the back half of hebrews
00:22:48.515 --> 00:22:50.083
Read the back half of hebrews chapter 11 where it says they
00:22:50.150 --> 00:22:51.251
Chapter 11 where it says they died in faith, not having seen
00:22:51.318 --> 00:22:54.555
Died in faith, not having seen the things that they had hoped
00:22:54.621 --> 00:22:55.956
The things that they had hoped for. and i think we do a
00:22:56.023 --> 00:22:58.525
For. and i think we do a disservice to people around us
00:22:58.592 --> 00:23:00.627
Disservice to people around us and to our family and our
00:23:00.694 --> 00:23:03.564
And to our family and our friends by not taking them on a
00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:06.066
Friends by not taking them on a journey with us, of holding on
00:23:06.133 --> 00:23:07.267
Journey with us, of holding on to faith. why? yet not seeing
00:23:07.334 --> 00:23:09.837
To faith. why? yet not seeing the things that we have
00:23:09.903 --> 00:23:11.071
The things that we have believed for, right? and just
00:23:11.138 --> 00:23:13.307
Believed for, right? and just like my dad, like your parents,
00:23:13.373 --> 00:23:15.809
Like my dad, like your parents, they died in faith, not having
00:23:15.876 --> 00:23:19.480
They died in faith, not having seen the things that they had
00:23:19.546 --> 00:23:21.181
Seen the things that they had hoped and longed for in this
00:23:21.248 --> 00:23:22.983
Hoped and longed for in this life, but receiving them in
00:23:23.050 --> 00:23:25.252
Life, but receiving them in eternity with christ jesus. and
00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:26.320
Eternity with christ jesus. and so i think when we when we
00:23:26.386 --> 00:23:28.021
So i think when we when we remember that, that infuses us
00:23:28.088 --> 00:23:29.923
Remember that, that infuses us with that hope.
00:23:29.990 --> 00:23:30.958
With that hope. >> well, which takes me back to
00:23:31.024 --> 00:23:32.392
>> well, which takes me back to your story, your own story
00:23:32.459 --> 00:23:33.894
Your story, your own story about your daddy, your daddy
00:23:33.961 --> 00:23:36.330
About your daddy, your daddy believing god for you and still
00:23:36.396 --> 00:23:38.298
Believing god for you and still just touches me so much to this
00:23:38.365 --> 00:23:40.367
Just touches me so much to this day. he believes so much. so he
00:23:40.434 --> 00:23:42.503
Day. he believes so much. so he turned into a bad guy. this guy
00:23:42.569 --> 00:23:44.104
Turned into a bad guy. this guy right here. that's right.
00:23:44.171 --> 00:23:45.339
Right here. that's right. >> a bad guy is being very nice.
00:23:45.405 --> 00:23:48.575
>> a bad guy is being very nice. >> but your dad never saw what
00:23:48.642 --> 00:23:50.377
>> but your dad never saw what you stepped into. he died
00:23:50.444 --> 00:23:52.880
You stepped into. he died before he got to see. and i
00:23:52.946 --> 00:23:55.048
Before he got to see. and i know that brother mack was
00:23:55.115 --> 00:23:56.517
Know that brother mack was believing god for his son and
00:23:56.583 --> 00:23:58.285
Believing god for his son and speaking only good.
00:23:58.352 --> 00:23:59.052
Speaking only good. >> over you.
00:23:59.119 --> 00:23:59.820
>> over you. >> absolutely. praying, fasting.
00:23:59.887 --> 00:24:01.221
>> absolutely. praying, fasting. >> and believing.
00:24:01.288 --> 00:24:02.256
>> and believing. >> in that that faith that
00:24:02.322 --> 00:24:04.091
>> in that that faith that we're talking about praying and
00:24:04.157 --> 00:24:06.627
We're talking about praying and believing, not knowing what he
00:24:06.693 --> 00:24:08.462
Believing, not knowing what he would be doing, that he would
00:24:08.529 --> 00:24:10.063
Would be doing, that he would be sitting in the same seat
00:24:10.130 --> 00:24:12.032
Be sitting in the same seat doing the same thing.
00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:13.734
Doing the same thing. >> that's so true.
00:24:13.800 --> 00:24:14.735
>> that's so true. >> god.
00:24:14.801 --> 00:24:15.269
>> god. >> 40 years later.
00:24:15.335 --> 00:24:16.703
>> 40 years later. >> sharing the word of god like
00:24:16.770 --> 00:24:18.138
>> sharing the word of god like you do. it's just it's so
00:24:18.205 --> 00:24:20.574
You do. it's just it's so beautiful. and so, you know,
00:24:20.641 --> 00:24:21.909
Beautiful. and so, you know, you think of i think of ruth
00:24:21.975 --> 00:24:23.477
You think of i think of ruth and naomi as a woman. yes. and
00:24:23.544 --> 00:24:25.412
And naomi as a woman. yes. and the influence that naomi had on
00:24:25.479 --> 00:24:27.114
The influence that naomi had on ruth, you know, she was like
00:24:27.180 --> 00:24:28.916
Ruth, you know, she was like going husbandless sunless and
00:24:28.982 --> 00:24:32.519
Going husbandless sunless and had two daughter in laws
00:24:32.586 --> 00:24:33.587
Had two daughter in laws telling them, go back to your
00:24:33.654 --> 00:24:35.455
Telling them, go back to your people. they were foreigners
00:24:35.522 --> 00:24:37.491
People. they were foreigners and go back to your people. i'm
00:24:37.558 --> 00:24:39.393
And go back to your people. i'm going home now.
00:24:39.459 --> 00:24:40.460
Going home now. >> yes.
00:24:40.527 --> 00:24:40.761
>> yes. >> and telling ruth to go back
00:24:40.827 --> 00:24:42.029
>> and telling ruth to go back to your people. go try to make
00:24:42.095 --> 00:24:43.997
To your people. go try to make a life. i can't do anything for
00:24:44.064 --> 00:24:45.899
A life. i can't do anything for you. and she's going, no.
00:24:45.966 --> 00:24:48.035
You. and she's going, no. there's something about you
00:24:48.101 --> 00:24:49.069
There's something about you that i want to be with you. and
00:24:49.136 --> 00:24:50.871
That i want to be with you. and i want to make your people.
00:24:50.938 --> 00:24:52.706
I want to make your people. >> my people.
00:24:52.773 --> 00:24:53.040
>> my people. >> that's right. and your god.
00:24:53.106 --> 00:24:54.808
>> that's right. and your god. my god. and so naomi mentors
00:24:54.875 --> 00:24:57.444
My god. and so naomi mentors her in a way that she's in,
00:24:57.511 --> 00:24:59.947
Her in a way that she's in, that ruth becomes in the
00:25:00.013 --> 00:25:01.682
That ruth becomes in the lineage of jesus.
00:25:01.748 --> 00:25:03.116
Lineage of jesus. >> absolutely.
00:25:03.183 --> 00:25:03.450
>> absolutely. >> just by those small little
00:25:03.517 --> 00:25:06.353
>> just by those small little things of mentoring and
00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:07.788
Things of mentoring and speaking into and telling her
00:25:07.854 --> 00:25:10.257
Speaking into and telling her what to do.
00:25:10.324 --> 00:25:11.391
What to do. >> you know.
00:25:11.458 --> 00:25:11.858
>> you know. >> we have to get into the
00:25:11.925 --> 00:25:14.227
>> we have to get into the habit if we're going to thank
00:25:14.294 --> 00:25:15.395
Habit if we're going to thank god for the good times. we also
00:25:15.462 --> 00:25:17.965
God for the good times. we also have to thank him. and i know
00:25:18.031 --> 00:25:19.533
Have to thank him. and i know this sounds weird for the bad
00:25:19.600 --> 00:25:20.801
This sounds weird for the bad ones, because it was in the
00:25:20.867 --> 00:25:22.569
Ones, because it was in the worst moments of naomi's life.
00:25:22.636 --> 00:25:23.737
Worst moments of naomi's life. >> that's right.
00:25:23.804 --> 00:25:24.638
>> that's right. >> that she was able to give
00:25:24.705 --> 00:25:26.206
>> that she was able to give ruth hope. and it's the same
00:25:26.273 --> 00:25:28.775
Ruth hope. and it's the same thing for us. it is in the
00:25:28.842 --> 00:25:30.644
Thing for us. it is in the worst moments of our life where
00:25:30.711 --> 00:25:32.512
Worst moments of our life where we can create the greatest
00:25:32.579 --> 00:25:33.680
We can create the greatest witness for jesus christ in the
00:25:33.747 --> 00:25:34.748
Witness for jesus christ in the life of somebody else.
00:25:34.815 --> 00:25:35.816
Life of somebody else. >> wow.
00:25:35.882 --> 00:25:36.617
>> wow. >> going back to naomi, going
00:25:36.683 --> 00:25:37.784
>> going back to naomi, going back to job, going back to
00:25:37.851 --> 00:25:39.586
Back to job, going back to stefan. it's one thing for god
00:25:39.653 --> 00:25:40.754
Stefan. it's one thing for god to trust you with blessings.
00:25:40.821 --> 00:25:42.522
To trust you with blessings. it's something completely
00:25:42.589 --> 00:25:43.056
It's something completely different for god to trust you
00:25:43.123 --> 00:25:44.558
Different for god to trust you with breaking. if god can trust
00:25:44.625 --> 00:25:46.059
With breaking. if god can trust you with breaking, he can do
00:25:46.126 --> 00:25:48.061
You with breaking, he can do anything through you. he can
00:25:48.128 --> 00:25:49.496
Anything through you. he can trust you with anything, and he
00:25:49.563 --> 00:25:50.964
Trust you with anything, and he can trust you with anyone
00:25:51.031 --> 00:25:52.399
Can trust you with anyone because he knows at the end of
00:25:52.466 --> 00:25:54.167
Because he knows at the end of your life, your last breaths
00:25:54.234 --> 00:25:56.336
Your life, your last breaths will be giving him glory.
00:25:56.403 --> 00:25:58.138
Will be giving him glory. >> it feels like this is maybe
00:25:58.205 --> 00:26:02.409
>> it feels like this is maybe simple for some people, but
00:26:02.476 --> 00:26:05.379
Simple for some people, but maybe for others. like, you
00:26:05.445 --> 00:26:08.248
Maybe for others. like, you need to go a little deeper here
00:26:08.315 --> 00:26:09.716
Need to go a little deeper here for me because wait a second,
00:26:09.783 --> 00:26:11.685
For me because wait a second, are you saying bad's good, you
00:26:11.752 --> 00:26:13.620
Are you saying bad's good, you know, or you know, i mean, you
00:26:13.687 --> 00:26:15.522
Know, or you know, i mean, you know, try to you.
00:26:15.589 --> 00:26:16.523
Know, try to you. >> know, it is, you know.
00:26:16.590 --> 00:26:19.726
>> know, it is, you know. >> it's it's not like i do know
00:26:19.793 --> 00:26:24.031
>> it's it's not like i do know that, you know, lori was at a
00:26:24.097 --> 00:26:27.668
That, you know, lori was at a funeral when somebody said this
00:26:27.734 --> 00:26:32.039
Funeral when somebody said this shouldn't have happened.
00:26:32.105 --> 00:26:34.608
Shouldn't have happened. >> so of a child.
00:26:34.675 --> 00:26:35.709
>> so of a child. >> yeah. so somebody didn't
00:26:35.776 --> 00:26:37.077
>> yeah. so somebody didn't pray enough. somebody didn't
00:26:37.144 --> 00:26:38.478
Pray enough. somebody didn't believe enough. somebody didn't
00:26:38.545 --> 00:26:39.546
Believe enough. somebody didn't believe hard enough. and she
00:26:39.613 --> 00:26:41.048
Believe hard enough. and she was there and sobbing and
00:26:41.114 --> 00:26:44.351
Was there and sobbing and wanted to go punch the person
00:26:44.418 --> 00:26:46.219
Wanted to go punch the person in the throat, you know,
00:26:46.286 --> 00:26:47.821
In the throat, you know, because there's the mother
00:26:47.888 --> 00:26:49.956
Because there's the mother there taking all the blame.
00:26:50.023 --> 00:26:52.259
There taking all the blame. >> who had believed.
00:26:52.325 --> 00:26:53.260
>> who had believed. >> god.
00:26:53.326 --> 00:26:53.493
>> god. >> who had believed god.
00:26:53.560 --> 00:26:54.561
>> who had believed god. >> stood in faith and.
00:26:54.628 --> 00:26:56.263
>> stood in faith and. >> never.
00:26:56.329 --> 00:26:56.530
>> never. >> yeah, never. saw it in.
00:26:56.596 --> 00:26:58.231
>> yeah, never. saw it in. >> this life.
00:26:58.298 --> 00:26:58.565
>> this life. >> you're you're starting to
00:26:58.632 --> 00:27:00.233
>> you're you're starting to explain some more things that
00:27:00.300 --> 00:27:01.902
Explain some more things that god doesn't, you know,
00:27:01.968 --> 00:27:04.771
God doesn't, you know, immediately if you just wound
00:27:04.838 --> 00:27:05.872
Immediately if you just wound the clock back 40 years and
00:27:05.939 --> 00:27:08.108
The clock back 40 years and something bad happens, the the
00:27:08.175 --> 00:27:11.211
Something bad happens, the the church counselor says, you
00:27:11.278 --> 00:27:13.480
Church counselor says, you sinned. so something you sinned.
00:27:13.547 --> 00:27:15.148
Sinned. so something you sinned. so you, you know, so there was
00:27:15.215 --> 00:27:17.350
So you, you know, so there was always this efforts and results.
00:27:17.417 --> 00:27:19.319
Always this efforts and results. there's always this correlation
00:27:19.386 --> 00:27:20.921
There's always this correlation between anything bad and you
00:27:20.987 --> 00:27:22.422
Between anything bad and you being a bad person. it feels
00:27:22.489 --> 00:27:24.925
Being a bad person. it feels like we're getting out of that
00:27:24.991 --> 00:27:28.228
Like we're getting out of that old thinking, getting into some
00:27:28.295 --> 00:27:30.664
Old thinking, getting into some newer thinking that god gives
00:27:30.731 --> 00:27:33.166
Newer thinking that god gives you a test so that you can go
00:27:33.233 --> 00:27:35.035
You a test so that you can go to another level. you know, you
00:27:35.102 --> 00:27:36.203
To another level. you know, you think of the military, if you
00:27:36.269 --> 00:27:38.171
Think of the military, if you get shot or hurt or wounded in
00:27:38.238 --> 00:27:40.874
Get shot or hurt or wounded in the military, they put a shiny
00:27:40.941 --> 00:27:42.876
The military, they put a shiny thing on you called a purple
00:27:42.943 --> 00:27:44.377
Thing on you called a purple heart. that's right. and you're
00:27:44.444 --> 00:27:46.880
Heart. that's right. and you're rewarded and you're revered for,
00:27:46.947 --> 00:27:49.716
Rewarded and you're revered for, you know, putting yourself in
00:27:49.783 --> 00:27:51.518
You know, putting yourself in harm's way and all of that. if
00:27:51.585 --> 00:27:53.720
Harm's way and all of that. if you've been through some
00:27:53.787 --> 00:27:55.155
You've been through some skirmishes, you start getting
00:27:55.222 --> 00:27:56.189
Skirmishes, you start getting more medals.
00:27:56.256 --> 00:27:57.290
More medals. >> yes.
00:27:57.357 --> 00:27:57.624
>> yes. >> you start increasing in rank.
00:27:57.691 --> 00:28:00.527
>> you start increasing in rank. if you do something wrong in
00:28:00.594 --> 00:28:01.862
If you do something wrong in the church, they throw you out
00:28:01.928 --> 00:28:04.064
The church, they throw you out onto the sidewalk.
00:28:04.131 --> 00:28:04.865
Onto the sidewalk. >> yeah, yeah.
00:28:04.931 --> 00:28:05.699
>> yeah, yeah. >> i think we have this false
00:28:05.766 --> 00:28:07.400
>> i think we have this false sense of perfection. we kind of
00:28:07.467 --> 00:28:10.604
Sense of perfection. we kind of carry ourselves with this
00:28:10.670 --> 00:28:11.972
Carry ourselves with this entitlement, like we should be
00:28:12.038 --> 00:28:13.473
Entitlement, like we should be above pain and trials and
00:28:13.540 --> 00:28:16.777
Above pain and trials and tribulations while not even
00:28:16.843 --> 00:28:19.246
Tribulations while not even considering who we say we serve.
00:28:19.312 --> 00:28:22.149
Considering who we say we serve. and what i mean by that as we
00:28:22.215 --> 00:28:24.251
And what i mean by that as we kind of dig into this a little
00:28:24.317 --> 00:28:25.852
Kind of dig into this a little bit, jesus being perfect,
00:28:25.919 --> 00:28:28.922
Bit, jesus being perfect, knowing no sin, knowing nothing
00:28:28.989 --> 00:28:34.761
Knowing no sin, knowing nothing that would separate him from
00:28:34.828 --> 00:28:35.862
That would separate him from his father. the father said, it
00:28:35.929 --> 00:28:39.800
His father. the father said, it is my will and purpose for your
00:28:39.866 --> 00:28:42.335
Is my will and purpose for your life that you take on the sins
00:28:42.402 --> 00:28:44.938
Life that you take on the sins and suffering of the world.
00:28:45.005 --> 00:28:47.007
And suffering of the world. >> wow.
00:28:47.073 --> 00:28:48.141
>> wow. >> nailed that to the cross. be
00:28:48.208 --> 00:28:52.712
>> nailed that to the cross. be placed in the grave. you will
00:28:52.779 --> 00:28:56.016
Placed in the grave. you will resurrect and rise again. but
00:28:56.082 --> 00:28:58.185
Resurrect and rise again. but if jesus, the king of kings,
00:28:58.251 --> 00:29:01.454
If jesus, the king of kings, the lord of lords, the hope of
00:29:01.521 --> 00:29:03.890
The lord of lords, the hope of glory suffered, went through
00:29:03.957 --> 00:29:06.793
Glory suffered, went through pain, did not keep himself from
00:29:06.860 --> 00:29:09.329
Pain, did not keep himself from it when he could have, he went
00:29:09.396 --> 00:29:12.165
It when he could have, he went through it. i think it is crazy
00:29:12.232 --> 00:29:15.402
Through it. i think it is crazy for us to believe that we won't
00:29:15.468 --> 00:29:17.103
For us to believe that we won't have moments of trials and
00:29:17.170 --> 00:29:19.005
Have moments of trials and tribulations and pain when we
00:29:19.072 --> 00:29:20.607
Tribulations and pain when we have the greatest blueprint,
00:29:20.674 --> 00:29:22.676
Have the greatest blueprint, and he's given us the greatest
00:29:22.742 --> 00:29:24.477
And he's given us the greatest roadmap in the word of god, of
00:29:24.544 --> 00:29:25.812
Roadmap in the word of god, of what to do when we find
00:29:25.879 --> 00:29:26.980
What to do when we find ourselves in those moments.
00:29:27.047 --> 00:29:28.148
Ourselves in those moments. that's why romans nine is so
00:29:28.215 --> 00:29:29.883
That's why romans nine is so powerful. he takes the good and
00:29:29.950 --> 00:29:31.084
Powerful. he takes the good and he takes the bad, and he makes
00:29:31.151 --> 00:29:32.919
He takes the bad, and he makes them work together for the good
00:29:32.986 --> 00:29:34.721
Them work together for the good of those that love the lord.
00:29:34.788 --> 00:29:35.922
Of those that love the lord. but if we only look at the good,
00:29:35.989 --> 00:29:37.891
But if we only look at the good, then we don't see how good of a
00:29:37.958 --> 00:29:39.860
Then we don't see how good of a god we serve because he doesn't
00:29:39.926 --> 00:29:41.728
God we serve because he doesn't deliver us from the bad things.
00:29:41.795 --> 00:29:43.163
Deliver us from the bad things. from genesis to revelation, we
00:29:43.230 --> 00:29:45.265
From genesis to revelation, we see god constantly in search,
00:29:45.332 --> 00:29:48.568
See god constantly in search, in desperate efforts to deliver
00:29:48.635 --> 00:29:51.271
In desperate efforts to deliver his children out of things that
00:29:51.338 --> 00:29:53.373
His children out of things that we have gotten ourselves into
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.075
We have gotten ourselves into because of the fallen humanity
00:29:55.141 --> 00:29:57.544
Because of the fallen humanity and the sin and our pride and
00:29:57.611 --> 00:30:00.080
And the sin and our pride and our arrogance and all these
00:30:00.146 --> 00:30:01.781
Our arrogance and all these different things. and so i do
00:30:01.848 --> 00:30:02.983
Different things. and so i do believe there are moments where
00:30:03.049 --> 00:30:04.517
Believe there are moments where we experience the grace and the
00:30:04.584 --> 00:30:06.553
We experience the grace and the mercy of god through physical
00:30:06.620 --> 00:30:08.321
Mercy of god through physical healing, through these various
00:30:08.388 --> 00:30:10.190
Healing, through these various things that only god can do.
00:30:10.257 --> 00:30:11.958
Things that only god can do. but i do also believe that
00:30:12.025 --> 00:30:13.493
But i do also believe that there's healing that happens in
00:30:13.560 --> 00:30:14.895
There's healing that happens in our soul.
00:30:14.961 --> 00:30:15.929
Our soul. >> yes.
00:30:15.996 --> 00:30:16.296
>> yes. >> when we go through seasons
00:30:16.363 --> 00:30:17.797
>> when we go through seasons that we don't expect, seasons
00:30:17.864 --> 00:30:19.499
That we don't expect, seasons that we did not anticipate,
00:30:19.566 --> 00:30:21.268
That we did not anticipate, seasons that we can't pull
00:30:21.334 --> 00:30:22.802
Seasons that we can't pull ourselves out of. and we have
00:30:22.869 --> 00:30:24.537
Ourselves out of. and we have to rely on jesus.
00:30:24.604 --> 00:30:26.039
To rely on jesus. >> to do. what makes me think
00:30:26.106 --> 00:30:27.674
>> to do. what makes me think of though, tim, it makes me
00:30:27.741 --> 00:30:28.842
Of though, tim, it makes me think of, why don't we just
00:30:28.909 --> 00:30:30.677
Think of, why don't we just have a better attitude about it
00:30:30.744 --> 00:30:32.512
Have a better attitude about it with this kind of teaching?
00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:34.347
With this kind of teaching? when you're going through
00:30:34.414 --> 00:30:36.116
When you're going through something bad, you can at least
00:30:36.182 --> 00:30:37.918
Something bad, you can at least say, this is a short season.
00:30:37.984 --> 00:30:41.187
Say, this is a short season. you know, it is a a test. i
00:30:41.254 --> 00:30:44.758
You know, it is a a test. i want to graduate. so i'm going
00:30:44.824 --> 00:30:46.493
Want to graduate. so i'm going to have a good attitude during
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:47.794
To have a good attitude during it.
00:30:47.861 --> 00:30:48.028
It. >> that's right.
00:30:48.094 --> 00:30:49.429
>> that's right. >> like this very first example
00:30:49.496 --> 00:30:51.798
>> like this very first example of the first martyr of the
00:30:51.865 --> 00:30:54.167
Of the first martyr of the church where paul likely was
00:30:54.234 --> 00:30:59.072
Church where paul likely was influenced by watching him
00:30:59.139 --> 00:31:02.375
Influenced by watching him believe something so hard and
00:31:02.442 --> 00:31:04.945
Believe something so hard and so good that he would not turn
00:31:05.011 --> 00:31:07.714
So good that he would not turn into a victim.
00:31:07.781 --> 00:31:08.782
Into a victim. >> that's right.
00:31:08.848 --> 00:31:09.950
>> that's right. >> and that had to have a
00:31:10.016 --> 00:31:11.718
>> and that had to have a profound, you know, effect on
00:31:11.785 --> 00:31:14.554
Profound, you know, effect on what would later become paul.
00:31:14.621 --> 00:31:16.790
What would later become paul. now he had an encounter with
00:31:16.856 --> 00:31:18.158
Now he had an encounter with jesus, which sealed the deal.
00:31:18.224 --> 00:31:19.726
Jesus, which sealed the deal. but you know, that that might
00:31:19.793 --> 00:31:21.828
But you know, that that might have been a setup piece. but
00:31:21.895 --> 00:31:23.630
Have been a setup piece. but when we're going through
00:31:23.697 --> 00:31:24.731
When we're going through something that is horrible,
00:31:24.798 --> 00:31:27.167
Something that is horrible, even, why can't we get to the
00:31:27.233 --> 00:31:29.502
Even, why can't we get to the point where we can have a
00:31:29.569 --> 00:31:30.637
Point where we can have a better attitude knowing god is
00:31:30.704 --> 00:31:32.439
Better attitude knowing god is going to perfect it and perfect
00:31:32.505 --> 00:31:34.574
Going to perfect it and perfect us?
00:31:34.641 --> 00:31:34.841
Us? >> i think we missed the point
00:31:34.908 --> 00:31:36.242
>> i think we missed the point because it is paul that says,
00:31:36.309 --> 00:31:37.944
Because it is paul that says, count it all. joy when you have
00:31:38.011 --> 00:31:40.013
Count it all. joy when you have these trials.
00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:41.081
These trials. >> and tribulations. knowing
00:31:41.147 --> 00:31:42.349
>> and tribulations. knowing that's right, right? that's so
00:31:42.415 --> 00:31:44.851
That's right, right? that's so true.
00:31:44.918 --> 00:31:45.618
True. >> you persevere.
00:31:45.685 --> 00:31:46.987
>> you persevere. >> yes.
00:31:47.053 --> 00:31:47.420
>> yes. >> to where you get to where
00:31:47.487 --> 00:31:49.089
>> to where you get to where you you lack nothing from god.
00:31:49.155 --> 00:31:50.623
You you lack nothing from god. so in the process of the
00:31:50.690 --> 00:31:53.193
So in the process of the suffering, it's not that you
00:31:53.259 --> 00:31:54.327
Suffering, it's not that you don't have any hope. that's
00:31:54.394 --> 00:31:56.396
Don't have any hope. that's when you're gleaning. that's
00:31:56.463 --> 00:31:58.198
When you're gleaning. that's when you're on your knees.
00:31:58.264 --> 00:31:59.566
When you're on your knees. that's when you're hearing from
00:31:59.632 --> 00:32:00.734
That's when you're hearing from god. maybe you're in a season.
00:32:00.800 --> 00:32:02.535
God. maybe you're in a season. maybe you feel like you can't
00:32:02.602 --> 00:32:04.037
Maybe you feel like you can't hear god. but those moments of
00:32:04.104 --> 00:32:05.839
Hear god. but those moments of digging in.
00:32:05.905 --> 00:32:06.506
Digging in. >> that's right.
00:32:06.573 --> 00:32:07.140
>> that's right. >> i think it's age for me that
00:32:07.207 --> 00:32:09.676
>> i think it's age for me that has helped me that. and again,
00:32:09.743 --> 00:32:14.114
Has helped me that. and again, a faith person, it the worse it.
00:32:14.180 --> 00:32:17.584
A faith person, it the worse it. >> is.
00:32:17.650 --> 00:32:18.318
>> is. >> the more you're driven to
00:32:18.385 --> 00:32:20.153
>> the more you're driven to your knees, right?
00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:21.187
Your knees, right? >> absolutely.
00:32:21.254 --> 00:32:21.955
>> absolutely. >> the things that come out of
00:32:22.022 --> 00:32:23.723
>> the things that come out of that time with god, the things
00:32:23.790 --> 00:32:25.892
That time with god, the things that my soul, you know, whoever
00:32:25.959 --> 00:32:27.727
That my soul, you know, whoever said that a healed leg is
00:32:27.794 --> 00:32:30.196
Said that a healed leg is better than a healed heart?
00:32:30.263 --> 00:32:31.631
Better than a healed heart? that's when transformation
00:32:31.698 --> 00:32:33.767
That's when transformation happens on the inside of you,
00:32:33.833 --> 00:32:35.602
Happens on the inside of you, to where all of a sudden you
00:32:35.668 --> 00:32:37.504
To where all of a sudden you get a tenacity about faith. you
00:32:37.570 --> 00:32:39.939
Get a tenacity about faith. you get a, you get a sense of like,
00:32:40.006 --> 00:32:41.708
Get a, you get a sense of like, okay, bring it on. that's right.
00:32:41.775 --> 00:32:43.476
Okay, bring it on. that's right. bring it on. yeah. let me faith
00:32:43.543 --> 00:32:45.345
Bring it on. yeah. let me faith my way through this because
00:32:45.412 --> 00:32:46.479
My way through this because what i gain through leaning
00:32:46.546 --> 00:32:50.083
What i gain through leaning into god and what he gives me
00:32:50.150 --> 00:32:52.185
Into god and what he gives me back during that time is
00:32:52.252 --> 00:32:53.987
Back during that time is priceless compared to anything
00:32:54.054 --> 00:32:55.522
Priceless compared to anything that man could do. we're not to
00:32:55.588 --> 00:32:57.924
That man could do. we're not to fear man. we're not to. we are
00:32:57.991 --> 00:32:59.692
Fear man. we're not to. we are not to fear. period. that's
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:01.194
Not to fear. period. that's right. right. we're supposed to
00:33:01.261 --> 00:33:02.629
Right. right. we're supposed to stand in faith. so everything
00:33:02.695 --> 00:33:04.798
Stand in faith. so everything that pushes me is all for my
00:33:04.864 --> 00:33:07.667
That pushes me is all for my good and for my gain.
00:33:07.734 --> 00:33:09.402
Good and for my gain. >> that's right.
00:33:09.469 --> 00:33:10.203
>> that's right. >> from god. and that is so it
00:33:10.270 --> 00:33:13.406
>> from god. and that is so it doesn't compare to what the
00:33:13.473 --> 00:33:15.608
Doesn't compare to what the world brings or what the world
00:33:15.675 --> 00:33:17.343
World brings or what the world can do, or what happens in my
00:33:17.410 --> 00:33:20.647
Can do, or what happens in my circumstances because i'm
00:33:20.713 --> 00:33:21.381
Circumstances because i'm driven into god and the you
00:33:21.448 --> 00:33:23.850
Driven into god and the you can't. i don't even have words
00:33:23.917 --> 00:33:25.051
Can't. i don't even have words for it. you as a pastor can can
00:33:25.118 --> 00:33:28.922
For it. you as a pastor can can wax eloquent.
00:33:28.988 --> 00:33:29.589
Wax eloquent. >> on that. no, i'm just.
00:33:29.656 --> 00:33:30.790
>> on that. no, i'm just. >> so help a sister out.
00:33:30.857 --> 00:33:32.425
>> so help a sister out. >> i'm still trying to wrap my
00:33:32.492 --> 00:33:34.327
>> i'm still trying to wrap my head around just kind of the
00:33:34.394 --> 00:33:36.162
Head around just kind of the thought process of god. you
00:33:36.229 --> 00:33:37.931
Thought process of god. you know, when we when we look at
00:33:37.997 --> 00:33:39.532
Know, when we when we look at this, we see an attacker, god
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.702
This, we see an attacker, god sees an apostle.
00:33:42.769 --> 00:33:44.370
Sees an apostle. >> wow.
00:33:44.437 --> 00:33:45.105
>> wow. >> you know, and so we when we
00:33:45.171 --> 00:33:46.906
>> you know, and so we when we are in these seasons of pain,
00:33:46.973 --> 00:33:48.842
Are in these seasons of pain, we have an opportunity to hear,
00:33:48.908 --> 00:33:51.611
We have an opportunity to hear, sense, see the hand of god in
00:33:51.678 --> 00:33:55.281
Sense, see the hand of god in ways that we have never seen or
00:33:55.348 --> 00:33:57.350
Ways that we have never seen or felt before. yeah. and i'm as
00:33:57.417 --> 00:33:59.919
Felt before. yeah. and i'm as i'm talking about this, i
00:33:59.986 --> 00:34:00.954
I'm talking about this, i remember so vividly the things
00:34:01.020 --> 00:34:02.956
Remember so vividly the things that i prayed for. they always
00:34:03.022 --> 00:34:05.225
That i prayed for. they always arrive differently than how i
00:34:05.291 --> 00:34:06.359
Arrive differently than how i prayed them.
00:34:06.426 --> 00:34:07.093
Prayed them. >> yeah.
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:07.527
>> yeah. >> and so as i was praying that
00:34:07.594 --> 00:34:09.295
>> and so as i was praying that god would give me peace, god
00:34:09.362 --> 00:34:11.064
God would give me peace, god would bring people in my life
00:34:11.131 --> 00:34:12.499
Would bring people in my life to disrupt it. and i would say,
00:34:12.565 --> 00:34:14.200
To disrupt it. and i would say, god, this isn't what i asked
00:34:14.267 --> 00:34:16.002
God, this isn't what i asked for. he said, yes, it is. it's
00:34:16.069 --> 00:34:17.203
For. he said, yes, it is. it's developing on the inside of you.
00:34:17.270 --> 00:34:19.105
Developing on the inside of you. yeah, i would say, god, i'm
00:34:19.172 --> 00:34:20.240
Yeah, i would say, god, i'm having these financial issues
00:34:20.306 --> 00:34:22.175
Having these financial issues and more bills would come. i
00:34:22.242 --> 00:34:24.010
And more bills would come. i would say, god, this is not
00:34:24.077 --> 00:34:25.345
Would say, god, this is not what i asked for. more money.
00:34:25.411 --> 00:34:26.546
What i asked for. more money. it seems like everything that
00:34:26.613 --> 00:34:27.747
It seems like everything that i'm doing, there's more month
00:34:27.814 --> 00:34:29.716
I'm doing, there's more month than i have money. so you're
00:34:29.782 --> 00:34:30.817
Than i have money. so you're getting what you pray for. i'm
00:34:30.884 --> 00:34:32.552
Getting what you pray for. i'm making you a better steward.
00:34:32.619 --> 00:34:33.753
Making you a better steward. >> wow.
00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:34.454
>> wow. >> i ask god for stronger
00:34:34.521 --> 00:34:36.222
>> i ask god for stronger relationships, and it seemed
00:34:36.289 --> 00:34:36.923
Relationships, and it seemed like all of the relationships
00:34:36.990 --> 00:34:38.391
Like all of the relationships that i had were being tested.
00:34:38.458 --> 00:34:39.926
That i had were being tested. and i'm sitting and saying,
00:34:39.993 --> 00:34:40.994
And i'm sitting and saying, okay, god, what in the world is
00:34:41.060 --> 00:34:42.862
Okay, god, what in the world is going on? this is not what i
00:34:42.929 --> 00:34:44.797
Going on? this is not what i asked for. and god is saying,
00:34:44.864 --> 00:34:45.999
Asked for. and god is saying, yes, it is. i'm making you
00:34:46.065 --> 00:34:47.800
Yes, it is. i'm making you stronger and i'm making you a
00:34:47.867 --> 00:34:48.902
Stronger and i'm making you a better person so that you can
00:34:48.968 --> 00:34:50.803
Better person so that you can steward these relationships
00:34:50.870 --> 00:34:51.371
Steward these relationships better. and everything that i
00:34:51.437 --> 00:34:52.805
Better. and everything that i prayed for, god delivered them
00:34:52.872 --> 00:34:54.073
Prayed for, god delivered them to me. he just delivered them
00:34:54.140 --> 00:34:56.409
To me. he just delivered them differently than how i expected
00:34:56.476 --> 00:34:57.677
Differently than how i expected him to. and sometimes god will
00:34:57.744 --> 00:35:00.680
Him to. and sometimes god will absolutely deliver his presence.
00:35:00.747 --> 00:35:02.549
Absolutely deliver his presence. he will deliver his peace. he
00:35:02.615 --> 00:35:04.417
He will deliver his peace. he will deliver his breakthroughs.
00:35:04.484 --> 00:35:05.985
Will deliver his breakthroughs. he would deliver his blessings
00:35:06.052 --> 00:35:07.487
He would deliver his blessings in the midst of pain. and we
00:35:07.554 --> 00:35:09.689
In the midst of pain. and we often miss them because they
00:35:09.756 --> 00:35:11.524
Often miss them because they arrive differently than how we
00:35:11.591 --> 00:35:12.992
Arrive differently than how we expected.
00:35:13.059 --> 00:35:13.259
Expected. >> them to. through opposition.
00:35:13.326 --> 00:35:14.360
>> them to. through opposition. >> that's right. wouldn't god
00:35:14.427 --> 00:35:15.495
>> that's right. wouldn't god give us the opportunity to have
00:35:15.562 --> 00:35:17.697
Give us the opportunity to have peace?
00:35:17.764 --> 00:35:18.364
Peace? >> absolutely.
00:35:18.431 --> 00:35:18.765
>> absolutely. >> give us the opportunity. you
00:35:18.831 --> 00:35:20.533
>> give us the opportunity. you know, i need more love for
00:35:20.600 --> 00:35:22.268
Know, i need more love for people. well, wouldn't he give
00:35:22.335 --> 00:35:23.369
People. well, wouldn't he give us the opportunity to show that
00:35:23.436 --> 00:35:25.538
Us the opportunity to show that he's always calling on our
00:35:25.605 --> 00:35:26.973
He's always calling on our faith?
00:35:27.040 --> 00:35:27.173
Faith? >> that's so true, right?
00:35:27.240 --> 00:35:28.041
>> that's so true, right? >> he's always after our faith
00:35:28.107 --> 00:35:31.678
>> he's always after our faith in in him and speaking who he
00:35:31.744 --> 00:35:34.847
In in him and speaking who he is, declaring who he is. that's
00:35:34.914 --> 00:35:37.817
Is, declaring who he is. that's tell me who i am today.
00:35:37.884 --> 00:35:39.252
Tell me who i am today. >> that's right.
00:35:39.319 --> 00:35:39.719
>> that's right. >> who do you say that i am
00:35:39.786 --> 00:35:41.588
>> who do you say that i am today?
00:35:41.654 --> 00:35:41.788
Today? >> that's right.
00:35:41.854 --> 00:35:42.689
>> that's right. >> a daily reminder.
00:35:42.755 --> 00:35:43.723
>> a daily reminder. >> you know, you get the bag
00:35:43.790 --> 00:35:45.558
>> you know, you get the bag diagnosis yesterday you were
00:35:45.625 --> 00:35:46.559
Diagnosis yesterday you were fine. today you've got a bad
00:35:46.626 --> 00:35:47.627
Fine. today you've got a bad diagnosis. who do you say that
00:35:47.694 --> 00:35:49.562
Diagnosis. who do you say that i am? give me some incentive to
00:35:49.629 --> 00:35:51.464
I am? give me some incentive to bless your life. tell me. i'm
00:35:51.531 --> 00:35:52.599
Bless your life. tell me. i'm your healer. that's right. tell
00:35:52.665 --> 00:35:53.800
Your healer. that's right. tell me what? who i said i was.
00:35:53.866 --> 00:35:55.602
Me what? who i said i was. you're my provider. you're my
00:35:55.668 --> 00:35:56.936
You're my provider. you're my peace. you're my joy. you're my
00:35:57.003 --> 00:35:59.072
Peace. you're my joy. you're my rock. you're my provision.
00:35:59.138 --> 00:36:00.873
Rock. you're my provision. you're my everything.
00:36:00.940 --> 00:36:01.841
You're my everything. everything that i need right
00:36:01.908 --> 00:36:03.276
Everything that i need right now, i find in you. so all of
00:36:03.343 --> 00:36:06.179
Now, i find in you. so all of that is baiting your passion
00:36:06.246 --> 00:36:08.481
That is baiting your passion for faith.
00:36:08.548 --> 00:36:09.215
For faith. >> that's so true. and and we
00:36:09.282 --> 00:36:11.050
>> that's so true. and and we often forget it was the holy
00:36:11.117 --> 00:36:13.019
Often forget it was the holy spirit that led jesus into the
00:36:13.086 --> 00:36:14.487
Spirit that led jesus into the wilderness.
00:36:14.554 --> 00:36:14.821
Wilderness. >> yeah.
00:36:14.887 --> 00:36:15.388
>> yeah. >> as a matter of fact, the
00:36:15.455 --> 00:36:16.990
>> as a matter of fact, the last words jesus says here on
00:36:17.056 --> 00:36:20.026
Last words jesus says here on earth to the disciples, acts
00:36:20.093 --> 00:36:22.762
Earth to the disciples, acts chapter one, verse eight, let
00:36:22.829 --> 00:36:24.631
Chapter one, verse eight, let me read this to you. acts
00:36:24.697 --> 00:36:25.765
Me read this to you. acts chapter eight, verse one. first
00:36:25.832 --> 00:36:27.400
Chapter eight, verse one. first it says, now saul approved of
00:36:27.467 --> 00:36:30.670
It says, now saul approved of putting stephan to death, and
00:36:30.737 --> 00:36:32.505
Putting stephan to death, and on that day a great persecution
00:36:32.572 --> 00:36:35.708
On that day a great persecution began against the church in
00:36:35.775 --> 00:36:38.244
Began against the church in jerusalem. and they were all
00:36:38.311 --> 00:36:40.013
Jerusalem. and they were all scattered throughout the
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:41.414
Scattered throughout the regions of judea and samaria,
00:36:41.481 --> 00:36:44.684
Regions of judea and samaria, except for the apostles, now
00:36:44.751 --> 00:36:46.953
Except for the apostles, now very, very specific with the
00:36:47.020 --> 00:36:49.022
Very, very specific with the cities that scripture gives us
00:36:49.088 --> 00:36:50.857
Cities that scripture gives us jerusalem, judea and samaria.
00:36:50.923 --> 00:36:52.659
Jerusalem, judea and samaria. acts chapter one, verse eight,
00:36:52.725 --> 00:36:54.560
Acts chapter one, verse eight, the last words jesus says to
00:36:54.627 --> 00:36:56.696
The last words jesus says to the disciples while he's here,
00:36:56.763 --> 00:36:59.165
The disciples while he's here, he says, but you will receive
00:36:59.232 --> 00:37:01.601
He says, but you will receive power when the holy spirit has
00:37:01.668 --> 00:37:03.169
Power when the holy spirit has come upon you, and you shall be
00:37:03.236 --> 00:37:05.872
Come upon you, and you shall be my witnesses, both in jerusalem
00:37:05.938 --> 00:37:09.208
My witnesses, both in jerusalem and all judea and samaria, and
00:37:09.275 --> 00:37:12.912
And all judea and samaria, and as far as the remotest parts of
00:37:12.979 --> 00:37:15.648
As far as the remotest parts of the earth. now this is very
00:37:15.715 --> 00:37:17.884
The earth. now this is very important, because jerusalem
00:37:17.950 --> 00:37:19.719
Important, because jerusalem was their backyard. this is
00:37:19.786 --> 00:37:21.554
Was their backyard. this is where they stayed. this is
00:37:21.621 --> 00:37:22.655
Where they stayed. this is where revival happened. this is
00:37:22.722 --> 00:37:23.823
Where revival happened. this is where the holy spirit fell. but
00:37:23.890 --> 00:37:25.925
Where the holy spirit fell. but they stayed stuck for seven
00:37:25.992 --> 00:37:28.294
They stayed stuck for seven chapters. so jesus gives them
00:37:28.361 --> 00:37:30.229
Chapters. so jesus gives them this prophecy. he gives them
00:37:30.296 --> 00:37:31.798
This prophecy. he gives them this proclamation. they stay
00:37:31.864 --> 00:37:33.366
This proclamation. they stay stuck for seven chapters, but
00:37:33.433 --> 00:37:36.269
Stuck for seven chapters, but persecution pushed them.
00:37:36.336 --> 00:37:38.071
Persecution pushed them. >> yeah.
00:37:38.137 --> 00:37:38.304
>> yeah. >> hey.
00:37:38.371 --> 00:37:39.072
>> hey. >> you spread the gospel.
00:37:39.138 --> 00:37:40.239
>> you spread the gospel. >> persecution spread the
00:37:40.306 --> 00:37:41.307
>> persecution spread the gospel. so the church never
00:37:41.374 --> 00:37:43.476
Gospel. so the church never needed convenience or comfort
00:37:43.543 --> 00:37:45.178
Needed convenience or comfort for the gospel to spread. and i
00:37:45.244 --> 00:37:47.714
For the gospel to spread. and i think we're seeing this happen
00:37:47.780 --> 00:37:50.049
Think we're seeing this happen in the body of christ today.
00:37:50.116 --> 00:37:52.452
In the body of christ today. those that want to lean into
00:37:52.518 --> 00:37:53.920
Those that want to lean into comfort and convenience, they
00:37:53.986 --> 00:37:55.722
Comfort and convenience, they think that god has forsaken and
00:37:55.788 --> 00:37:57.123
Think that god has forsaken and abandoned them. and those that
00:37:57.190 --> 00:37:58.591
Abandoned them. and those that know that god can work through
00:37:58.658 --> 00:38:00.993
Know that god can work through persecution, they know no
00:38:01.060 --> 00:38:01.861
Persecution, they know no matter what happens, come hell
00:38:01.928 --> 00:38:03.730
Matter what happens, come hell or high water, god is with us.
00:38:03.796 --> 00:38:06.132
Or high water, god is with us. not only is he with us, but
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:07.600
Not only is he with us, but he's for us. and so acts
00:38:07.667 --> 00:38:09.736
He's for us. and so acts chapter one, verse eight was
00:38:09.802 --> 00:38:10.737
Chapter one, verse eight was the prophecy. acts chapter
00:38:10.803 --> 00:38:12.638
The prophecy. acts chapter eight, verse one was the push.
00:38:12.705 --> 00:38:15.475
Eight, verse one was the push. the prophecy was great, but
00:38:15.541 --> 00:38:17.310
The prophecy was great, but they got stuck where the holy
00:38:17.377 --> 00:38:19.011
They got stuck where the holy spirit fell.
00:38:19.078 --> 00:38:19.312
Spirit fell. >> you know what just crossed
00:38:19.379 --> 00:38:21.013
>> you know what just crossed my mind? as you said earlier,
00:38:21.080 --> 00:38:23.383
My mind? as you said earlier, stephen, the first martyr was
00:38:23.449 --> 00:38:25.518
Stephen, the first martyr was filled with the holy spirit and
00:38:25.585 --> 00:38:27.687
Filled with the holy spirit and wisdom.
00:38:27.754 --> 00:38:27.920
Wisdom. >> that's right.
00:38:27.987 --> 00:38:28.721
>> that's right. >> so what if he knew his death
00:38:28.788 --> 00:38:32.759
>> so what if he knew his death was the beginning of the
00:38:32.825 --> 00:38:34.160
Was the beginning of the persecution to fulfill.
00:38:34.227 --> 00:38:35.461
Persecution to fulfill. >> the catalyst.
00:38:35.528 --> 00:38:36.362
>> the catalyst. >> and so he was willing to
00:38:36.429 --> 00:38:39.265
>> and so he was willing to suffer in silence, knowing that
00:38:39.332 --> 00:38:41.701
Suffer in silence, knowing that that was the beginning of
00:38:41.768 --> 00:38:44.670
That was the beginning of pushing the gospel out,
00:38:44.737 --> 00:38:46.072
Pushing the gospel out, fulfilling the prophecy 30
00:38:46.139 --> 00:38:48.541
Fulfilling the prophecy 30 years ago, 40 years ago, this
00:38:48.608 --> 00:38:52.578
Years ago, 40 years ago, this message would not have been
00:38:52.645 --> 00:38:53.980
Message would not have been preached, wouldn't have been
00:38:54.046 --> 00:38:55.081
Preached, wouldn't have been preached on tbn.
00:38:55.148 --> 00:38:56.482
Preached on tbn. >> yeah.
00:38:56.549 --> 00:38:57.250
>> yeah. >> because there was largely in
00:38:57.316 --> 00:39:01.354
>> because there was largely in the charismatic community a
00:39:01.421 --> 00:39:07.627
The charismatic community a moratorium that if bad happens,
00:39:07.693 --> 00:39:11.264
Moratorium that if bad happens, you have failed.
00:39:11.330 --> 00:39:13.833
You have failed. >> something's wrong. yeah.
00:39:13.900 --> 00:39:14.934
>> something's wrong. yeah. >> you you've done something
00:39:15.001 --> 00:39:16.702
>> you you've done something wrong, you've failed. you've
00:39:16.769 --> 00:39:18.471
Wrong, you've failed. you've missed it. and i believe those
00:39:18.538 --> 00:39:21.374
Missed it. and i believe those days are over.
00:39:21.441 --> 00:39:22.475
Days are over. >> if that is the truth, then
00:39:22.542 --> 00:39:25.344
>> if that is the truth, then we have made ourselves as
00:39:25.411 --> 00:39:27.079
We have made ourselves as powerful as god, because that
00:39:27.146 --> 00:39:29.682
Powerful as god, because that means we have to believe enough
00:39:29.749 --> 00:39:32.485
Means we have to believe enough to perform.
00:39:32.552 --> 00:39:33.986
To perform. >> yeah.
00:39:34.053 --> 00:39:34.387
>> yeah. >> and it becomes all about you.
00:39:34.454 --> 00:39:36.088
>> and it becomes all about you. >> that's right.
00:39:36.155 --> 00:39:36.989
>> that's right. >> what did. what did i do?
00:39:37.056 --> 00:39:38.324
>> what did. what did i do? let's see. what could we have
00:39:38.391 --> 00:39:40.092
Let's see. what could we have done?
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:40.293
Done? >> and you think about yourself.
00:39:40.359 --> 00:39:41.994
>> and you think about yourself. >> it's not about what god has
00:39:42.061 --> 00:39:43.196
>> it's not about what god has already done.
00:39:43.262 --> 00:39:44.063
Already done. >> what the.
00:39:44.130 --> 00:39:44.997
>> what the. >> grace, the grace, the mercy
00:39:45.064 --> 00:39:46.165
>> grace, the grace, the mercy of.
00:39:46.232 --> 00:39:46.332
Of. >> jesus, right?
00:39:46.399 --> 00:39:47.300
>> jesus, right? >> it takes it takes that
00:39:47.366 --> 00:39:48.968
>> it takes it takes that completely off the table. and
00:39:49.035 --> 00:39:50.069
Completely off the table. and it says, okay, you got to work
00:39:50.136 --> 00:39:51.971
It says, okay, you got to work for this thing.
00:39:52.038 --> 00:39:52.338
For this thing. >> yeah.
00:39:52.405 --> 00:39:53.072
>> yeah. >> you you got to pray longer.
00:39:53.139 --> 00:39:55.174
>> you you got to pray longer. you have to believe stronger,
00:39:55.241 --> 00:39:56.943
You have to believe stronger, as if.
00:39:57.009 --> 00:39:58.811
As if. >> we can do we can do that.
00:39:58.878 --> 00:40:01.280
>> we can do we can do that. >> you know, i wonder what 30
00:40:01.347 --> 00:40:04.150
>> you know, i wonder what 30 years ago, my parents would
00:40:04.217 --> 00:40:06.085
Years ago, my parents would have said if you would have,
00:40:06.152 --> 00:40:08.120
Have said if you would have, you know, run up onto the set
00:40:08.187 --> 00:40:10.389
You know, run up onto the set with your mom and dad and.
00:40:10.456 --> 00:40:12.525
With your mom and dad and. >> go count.
00:40:12.592 --> 00:40:13.359
>> go count. >> it all joy when you know. i
00:40:13.426 --> 00:40:15.294
>> it all joy when you know. i mean, that's right. i don't
00:40:15.361 --> 00:40:16.362
Mean, that's right. i don't know how they would have
00:40:16.429 --> 00:40:17.797
Know how they would have largely dealt with. count it
00:40:17.864 --> 00:40:20.333
Largely dealt with. count it all joy. when you have suffered,
00:40:20.399 --> 00:40:23.970
All joy. when you have suffered, you know it will produce all
00:40:24.036 --> 00:40:25.805
You know it will produce all these great things in your life.
00:40:25.872 --> 00:40:27.673
These great things in your life. why don't we want these great
00:40:27.740 --> 00:40:29.075
Why don't we want these great things in our life? and i
00:40:29.141 --> 00:40:30.776
Things in our life? and i wonder if they just thought,
00:40:30.843 --> 00:40:32.044
Wonder if they just thought, well, we can get there without
00:40:32.111 --> 00:40:34.046
Well, we can get there without having to go through that? i'm
00:40:34.113 --> 00:40:35.181
Having to go through that? i'm just wondering. but but largely
00:40:35.248 --> 00:40:37.049
Just wondering. but but largely that's not the way life works.
00:40:37.116 --> 00:40:38.718
That's not the way life works. >> no. and i think at the end
00:40:38.784 --> 00:40:40.286
>> no. and i think at the end of their lives, their testimony
00:40:40.353 --> 00:40:42.288
Of their lives, their testimony was this in spite of it all.
00:40:42.355 --> 00:40:44.457
Was this in spite of it all. >> yeah.
00:40:44.524 --> 00:40:45.224
>> yeah. >> the faithfulness.
00:40:45.291 --> 00:40:46.225
>> the faithfulness. >> of.
00:40:46.292 --> 00:40:46.425
>> of. >> god is still good.
00:40:46.492 --> 00:40:47.760
>> god is still good. >> yeah.
00:40:47.827 --> 00:40:48.261
>> yeah. >> you know, and my.
00:40:48.327 --> 00:40:49.295
>> you know, and my. >> father had to.
00:40:49.362 --> 00:40:50.296
>> father had to. >> live it. they had to live it.
00:40:50.363 --> 00:40:52.298
>> live it. they had to live it. >> absolutely. they couldn't
00:40:52.365 --> 00:40:53.399
>> absolutely. they couldn't just preach at first. they had
00:40:53.466 --> 00:40:54.500
Just preach at first. they had to live it.
00:40:54.567 --> 00:40:55.401
To live it. >> they had to walk through it.
00:40:55.468 --> 00:40:57.303
>> they had to walk through it. there's a certain level of pain
00:40:57.370 --> 00:40:58.471
There's a certain level of pain that brings you into intimacy
00:40:58.538 --> 00:41:00.239
That brings you into intimacy with jesus, where you know, his
00:41:00.306 --> 00:41:01.407
With jesus, where you know, his pain and suffering is, is so
00:41:01.474 --> 00:41:03.209
Pain and suffering is, is so that i can suffer. well, yeah.
00:41:03.276 --> 00:41:04.677
That i can suffer. well, yeah. and paul says this, and i
00:41:04.744 --> 00:41:06.379
And paul says this, and i really believe that paul's
00:41:06.445 --> 00:41:09.015
Really believe that paul's testimony in this passage was a
00:41:09.081 --> 00:41:11.117
Testimony in this passage was a direct result of how he saw
00:41:11.183 --> 00:41:13.052
Direct result of how he saw stefan suffer. he says,
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.787
Stefan suffer. he says, regardless of what happens to
00:41:14.854 --> 00:41:16.222
Regardless of what happens to me, the gospel must be preached.
00:41:16.289 --> 00:41:19.759
Me, the gospel must be preached. and that was stefan's last
00:41:19.825 --> 00:41:21.594
And that was stefan's last breath. he continued to preach
00:41:21.661 --> 00:41:22.828
Breath. he continued to preach the gospel regardless of what
00:41:22.895 --> 00:41:24.830
The gospel regardless of what happened to his physical body.
00:41:24.897 --> 00:41:26.666
Happened to his physical body. >> so if we had to title this
00:41:26.732 --> 00:41:29.569
>> so if we had to title this discussion, it'd be bad as good.
00:41:29.635 --> 00:41:32.338
Discussion, it'd be bad as good. >> could be bad as good, or it
00:41:32.405 --> 00:41:34.540
>> could be bad as good, or it could be pain. doesn't have to
00:41:34.607 --> 00:41:36.742
Could be pain. doesn't have to silence you. something,
00:41:36.809 --> 00:41:39.211
Silence you. something, something.
00:41:39.278 --> 00:41:39.612
Something. >> i like shorter subjects. i
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:41.781
>> i like shorter subjects. i need you to get a t shirt, a
00:41:41.847 --> 00:41:43.783
Need you to get a t shirt, a t-shirt. bad.
00:41:43.849 --> 00:41:44.116
T-shirt. bad. >> as bad as good.
00:41:44.183 --> 00:41:46.852
>> as bad as good. >> it it look ultimately good.
00:41:46.919 --> 00:41:49.722
>> it it look ultimately good. all things work. romans 828 is
00:41:49.789 --> 00:41:52.191
All things work. romans 828 is real or it's not.
00:41:52.258 --> 00:41:53.192
Real or it's not. >> that's right.
00:41:53.259 --> 00:41:54.393
>> that's right. >> and you know, that's how
00:41:54.460 --> 00:41:55.561
>> and you know, that's how they would have done it. they
00:41:55.628 --> 00:41:57.363
They would have done it. they would have said romans 828
00:41:57.430 --> 00:41:59.065
Would have said romans 828 reohm they would have looked
00:41:59.131 --> 00:41:59.899
Reohm they would have looked over their shoulder. they would
00:41:59.966 --> 00:42:01.033
Over their shoulder. they would have said, all these things
00:42:01.100 --> 00:42:02.668
Have said, all these things have worked together for my
00:42:02.735 --> 00:42:04.070
Have worked together for my good. yeah. and, and they would
00:42:04.136 --> 00:42:06.539
Good. yeah. and, and they would have ultimately got everyone
00:42:06.606 --> 00:42:08.040
Have ultimately got everyone ultimately gets there. i'm
00:42:08.107 --> 00:42:09.842
Ultimately gets there. i'm trying to say, get there as
00:42:09.909 --> 00:42:11.644
Trying to say, get there as soon as the bad thing happens
00:42:11.711 --> 00:42:13.479
Soon as the bad thing happens and get there sooner. so you
00:42:13.546 --> 00:42:14.814
And get there sooner. so you don't have to live in these
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.350
Don't have to live in these horrible, tumultuous, gut
00:42:17.416 --> 00:42:19.485
Horrible, tumultuous, gut wrenching moments knowing god
00:42:19.552 --> 00:42:21.687
Wrenching moments knowing god has got you. let's let's know.
00:42:21.754 --> 00:42:23.923
Has got you. let's let's know. >> the thing about it is the
00:42:23.990 --> 00:42:26.359
>> the thing about it is the kicker is that we blame all of
00:42:26.425 --> 00:42:28.227
Kicker is that we blame all of this on the devil.
00:42:28.294 --> 00:42:29.962
This on the devil. >> that's so true.
00:42:30.029 --> 00:42:31.063
>> that's so true. >> and and all the attacks of
00:42:31.130 --> 00:42:32.965
>> and and all the attacks of the enemy. and so we're going
00:42:33.032 --> 00:42:34.934
The enemy. and so we're going to pray against it. we're going
00:42:35.001 --> 00:42:36.802
To pray against it. we're going to talk to the devil. we're
00:42:36.869 --> 00:42:38.037
To talk to the devil. we're going to rebuke him, and we're
00:42:38.104 --> 00:42:39.805
Going to rebuke him, and we're going to. so all of our focus
00:42:39.872 --> 00:42:41.641
Going to. so all of our focus has now changed.
00:42:41.707 --> 00:42:43.643
Has now changed. >> that's so true.
00:42:43.709 --> 00:42:44.443
>> that's so true. >> when jesus said, satan, you
00:42:44.510 --> 00:42:45.978
>> when jesus said, satan, you get behind me. i'm not looking
00:42:46.045 --> 00:42:47.480
Get behind me. i'm not looking at you anymore. i'm going to go
00:42:47.546 --> 00:42:49.348
At you anymore. i'm going to go through this, right? and i'm
00:42:49.415 --> 00:42:50.916
Through this, right? and i'm going to, i'm going to do my
00:42:50.983 --> 00:42:52.685
Going to, i'm going to do my ministry. i'm going to go
00:42:52.752 --> 00:42:53.886
Ministry. i'm going to go through this. i know i'm going
00:42:53.953 --> 00:42:55.554
Through this. i know i'm going to die. that's right. but i am
00:42:55.621 --> 00:42:56.722
To die. that's right. but i am going to go through this and
00:42:56.789 --> 00:42:58.624
Going to go through this and i'm not going to look at you
00:42:58.691 --> 00:43:00.559
I'm not going to look at you anymore. so i think that's what
00:43:00.626 --> 00:43:01.761
Anymore. so i think that's what we need to learn to do because
00:43:01.827 --> 00:43:03.696
We need to learn to do because it works in us. patience.
00:43:03.763 --> 00:43:04.797
It works in us. patience. that's right. and perseverance.
00:43:04.864 --> 00:43:06.365
That's right. and perseverance. and that tenacity to believe
00:43:06.432 --> 00:43:08.934
And that tenacity to believe god against all odds, right?
00:43:09.001 --> 00:43:12.004
God against all odds, right? because you'll then lack
00:43:12.071 --> 00:43:14.206
Because you'll then lack nothing.
00:43:14.273 --> 00:43:14.440
Nothing. >> that's right.
00:43:14.507 --> 00:43:15.741
>> that's right. >> you will lack nothing from
00:43:15.808 --> 00:43:18.644
>> you will lack nothing from god during those times. if we
00:43:18.711 --> 00:43:21.414
God during those times. if we all lived there, that i know
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.983
All lived there, that i know that whatever circumstance
00:43:24.050 --> 00:43:25.384
That whatever circumstance comes my way, you can call it
00:43:25.451 --> 00:43:26.852
Comes my way, you can call it an attack, whatever you choose
00:43:26.919 --> 00:43:28.387
An attack, whatever you choose to call it. i don't call it
00:43:28.454 --> 00:43:29.789
To call it. i don't call it that. i call it this is my
00:43:29.855 --> 00:43:32.358
That. i call it this is my opportunity. what's god saying
00:43:32.425 --> 00:43:33.726
Opportunity. what's god saying to me today? okay. all right.
00:43:33.793 --> 00:43:36.629
To me today? okay. all right. that that hurt. ouch. yeah.
00:43:36.696 --> 00:43:38.364
That that hurt. ouch. yeah. what's god saying today? yeah.
00:43:38.431 --> 00:43:40.366
What's god saying today? yeah. because i am going to go
00:43:40.433 --> 00:43:41.667
Because i am going to go through this and i'm going to
00:43:41.734 --> 00:43:44.603
Through this and i'm going to believe harder than i've ever.
00:43:44.670 --> 00:43:46.439
Believe harder than i've ever. believed before. i'm going to
00:43:46.505 --> 00:43:47.673
Believed before. i'm going to dig down deep into my heart and
00:43:47.740 --> 00:43:50.309
Dig down deep into my heart and soul of faith. and i'm not
00:43:50.376 --> 00:43:51.644
Soul of faith. and i'm not going to lack one good thing.
00:43:51.711 --> 00:43:53.312
Going to lack one good thing. >> it's like in those moments
00:43:53.379 --> 00:43:55.181
>> it's like in those moments god is saying, like he said to
00:43:55.247 --> 00:43:57.383
God is saying, like he said to peter, who do you say that.
00:43:57.450 --> 00:43:58.784
Peter, who do you say that. >> i am? that's right. who do
00:43:58.851 --> 00:43:59.985
>> i am? that's right. who do you say that i am?
00:44:00.052 --> 00:44:01.787
You say that i am? >> you know? and if you are
00:44:01.854 --> 00:44:03.456
>> you know? and if you are saying he's everything, then
00:44:03.522 --> 00:44:07.460
Saying he's everything, then where is the devil in that
00:44:07.526 --> 00:44:09.595
Where is the devil in that exchange? he's not in between
00:44:09.662 --> 00:44:11.397
Exchange? he's not in between me and god.
00:44:11.464 --> 00:44:12.565
Me and god. >> he's not. we. we give so
00:44:12.631 --> 00:44:14.266
>> he's not. we. we give so much authority. we give so much
00:44:14.333 --> 00:44:18.637
Much authority. we give so much fear to the devil, and we
00:44:18.704 --> 00:44:21.140
Fear to the devil, and we forget in certain portions, in
00:44:21.207 --> 00:44:23.309
Forget in certain portions, in certain scenes of our lives,
00:44:23.375 --> 00:44:25.111
Certain scenes of our lives, that satan is a created being.
00:44:25.177 --> 00:44:29.815
That satan is a created being. and we fear the created being
00:44:29.882 --> 00:44:32.017
And we fear the created being more than we fear the creator.
00:44:32.084 --> 00:44:34.120
More than we fear the creator. >> that has no power.
00:44:34.186 --> 00:44:35.154
>> that has no power. >> no power, no authority, only
00:44:35.221 --> 00:44:36.956
>> no power, no authority, only what we give them.
00:44:37.022 --> 00:44:38.791
What we give them. >> jesus said, all power has
00:44:38.858 --> 00:44:41.994
>> jesus said, all power has been given unto me in heaven
00:44:42.061 --> 00:44:43.929
Been given unto me in heaven and earth. so if jesus has it
00:44:43.996 --> 00:44:46.432
And earth. so if jesus has it all in heaven and earth, how
00:44:46.499 --> 00:44:47.733
All in heaven and earth, how much does the devil have? zero.
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:49.902
Much does the devil have? zero. okay, none is the answer.
00:44:49.969 --> 00:44:51.904
Okay, none is the answer. >> now go do what i've called
00:44:51.971 --> 00:44:53.773
>> now go do what i've called you to do and i'm going with
00:44:53.839 --> 00:44:55.074
You to do and i'm going with you.
00:44:55.141 --> 00:44:55.775
You. >> absolutely.
00:44:55.841 --> 00:44:56.108
>> absolutely. >> that's why he would say,
00:44:56.175 --> 00:44:57.777
>> that's why he would say, you'll know the truth, and the
00:44:57.843 --> 00:44:59.245
You'll know the truth, and the truth will make you free if you
00:44:59.311 --> 00:45:00.946
Truth will make you free if you don't know the truth. that's
00:45:01.013 --> 00:45:02.148
Don't know the truth. that's right. you're not made free.
00:45:02.214 --> 00:45:03.249
Right. you're not made free. >> absolutely.
00:45:03.315 --> 00:45:04.083
>> absolutely. >> if you woke up today
00:45:04.150 --> 00:45:05.117
>> if you woke up today thinking drugs and alcohol were
00:45:05.184 --> 00:45:06.919
Thinking drugs and alcohol were the way that you were going to
00:45:06.986 --> 00:45:08.120
The way that you were going to cope with your day to day, you
00:45:08.187 --> 00:45:10.856
Cope with your day to day, you are bound. don't know the truth
00:45:10.923 --> 00:45:12.958
Are bound. don't know the truth and you are not made free.
00:45:13.025 --> 00:45:14.393
And you are not made free. that's right. okay. and so
00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:16.962
That's right. okay. and so that's why jesus would say it
00:45:17.029 --> 00:45:18.397
That's why jesus would say it that way. it's not the truth
00:45:18.464 --> 00:45:20.132
That way. it's not the truth that makes you free. it's the
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:21.300
That makes you free. it's the truth you know and believe.
00:45:21.367 --> 00:45:23.035
Truth you know and believe. that's right. jesus is the son
00:45:23.102 --> 00:45:25.604
That's right. jesus is the son of god, slain before the
00:45:25.671 --> 00:45:28.040
Of god, slain before the foundation of the earth. but
00:45:28.107 --> 00:45:29.508
Foundation of the earth. but some just think he was a good
00:45:29.575 --> 00:45:31.210
Some just think he was a good teacher. some think he was
00:45:31.277 --> 00:45:32.444
Teacher. some think he was maybe a prophet. but if you
00:45:32.511 --> 00:45:33.813
Maybe a prophet. but if you don't think and don't make him
00:45:33.879 --> 00:45:36.048
Don't think and don't make him and believe him to be the lord
00:45:36.115 --> 00:45:37.783
And believe him to be the lord of your life, you're not going
00:45:37.850 --> 00:45:40.319
Of your life, you're not going to live with him forever. it's
00:45:40.386 --> 00:45:42.488
To live with him forever. it's your choice. it's what you
00:45:42.555 --> 00:45:44.223
Your choice. it's what you believe and what you know. and
00:45:44.290 --> 00:45:46.458
Believe and what you know. and so it's, it's really that
00:45:46.525 --> 00:45:49.295
So it's, it's really that simple, you know, and when you
00:45:49.361 --> 00:45:51.030
Simple, you know, and when you start applying this truth, what
00:45:51.096 --> 00:45:54.800
Start applying this truth, what is your more scholarly title
00:45:54.867 --> 00:45:57.369
Is your more scholarly title that you put on? i put bad is
00:45:57.436 --> 00:45:59.338
That you put on? i put bad is good, but what did you say the
00:45:59.405 --> 00:46:01.273
Good, but what did you say the title was?
00:46:01.340 --> 00:46:02.274
Title was? >> yeah, we could go with the
00:46:02.341 --> 00:46:03.475
>> yeah, we could go with the fruit of pain, you know,
00:46:03.542 --> 00:46:05.277
Fruit of pain, you know, something a little more
00:46:05.344 --> 00:46:06.278
Something a little more appealing. okay. you know, but
00:46:06.345 --> 00:46:07.346
Appealing. okay. you know, but you said something so profound.
00:46:07.413 --> 00:46:09.448
You said something so profound. you said that when you are
00:46:09.515 --> 00:46:12.384
You said that when you are going through these various
00:46:12.451 --> 00:46:14.220
Going through these various things and you're navigating
00:46:14.286 --> 00:46:16.121
Things and you're navigating these various things, you have
00:46:16.188 --> 00:46:17.556
These various things, you have to hold on to truth. it is not
00:46:17.623 --> 00:46:19.592
To hold on to truth. it is not the truth in and of itself.
00:46:19.658 --> 00:46:21.527
The truth in and of itself. it's the truth applied. no,
00:46:21.594 --> 00:46:23.195
It's the truth applied. no, it's the truth that you know,
00:46:23.262 --> 00:46:24.563
It's the truth that you know, and that you apply. yeah.
00:46:24.630 --> 00:46:26.165
And that you apply. yeah. you're not blessed by what you
00:46:26.232 --> 00:46:27.900
You're not blessed by what you receive. you're blessed by what
00:46:27.967 --> 00:46:29.301
Receive. you're blessed by what you retain. and if you don't
00:46:29.368 --> 00:46:32.137
You retain. and if you don't retain this truth of the gospel
00:46:32.204 --> 00:46:33.706
Retain this truth of the gospel of jesus christ, when the
00:46:33.772 --> 00:46:34.773
Of jesus christ, when the storms of life come and they
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:36.575
Storms of life come and they will, it will rock you. and if
00:46:36.642 --> 00:46:38.677
Will, it will rock you. and if you only know jesus as a
00:46:38.744 --> 00:46:40.512
You only know jesus as a teacher or as a rabbi, you
00:46:40.579 --> 00:46:42.548
Teacher or as a rabbi, you won't know him as the messiah.
00:46:42.615 --> 00:46:44.717
Won't know him as the messiah. and that was the difference
00:46:44.783 --> 00:46:46.218
And that was the difference between judas and the rest of
00:46:46.285 --> 00:46:47.920
Between judas and the rest of the disciples.
00:46:47.987 --> 00:46:49.088
The disciples. >> yeah.
00:46:49.154 --> 00:46:49.822
>> yeah. >> the rest of the disciples
00:46:49.889 --> 00:46:51.090
>> the rest of the disciples called him lord. judas called
00:46:51.156 --> 00:46:53.392
Called him lord. judas called him teacher, never acknowledged
00:46:53.459 --> 00:46:56.228
Him teacher, never acknowledged him as lord. and any time we
00:46:56.295 --> 00:46:58.397
Him as lord. and any time we don't acknowledge jesus as lord
00:46:58.464 --> 00:47:00.933
Don't acknowledge jesus as lord and master in christ, we will
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.135
And master in christ, we will reject him. one way or another.
00:47:03.202 --> 00:47:06.372
Reject him. one way or another. and when we are presented with
00:47:06.438 --> 00:47:07.773
And when we are presented with pain, if we don't know him as
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.441
Pain, if we don't know him as lord, if we don't know him as
00:47:09.508 --> 00:47:11.377
Lord, if we don't know him as master, if we don't know him as
00:47:11.443 --> 00:47:12.578
Master, if we don't know him as savior, if we just know him as
00:47:12.645 --> 00:47:14.513
Savior, if we just know him as a good teacher of, of, of
00:47:14.580 --> 00:47:16.382
A good teacher of, of, of scripture, if we just know him
00:47:16.448 --> 00:47:17.549
Scripture, if we just know him as a good orator of these
00:47:17.616 --> 00:47:19.385
As a good orator of these incredible words, then we will
00:47:19.451 --> 00:47:20.486
Incredible words, then we will lose hope. our faith will be
00:47:20.552 --> 00:47:22.154
Lose hope. our faith will be rock and we'll have our
00:47:22.221 --> 00:47:23.889
Rock and we'll have our confidence shattered in seasons
00:47:23.956 --> 00:47:25.190
Confidence shattered in seasons of pain, instead of holding on
00:47:25.257 --> 00:47:26.859
Of pain, instead of holding on to him as the anchor of our
00:47:26.926 --> 00:47:29.028
To him as the anchor of our lives and the lifter of our
00:47:29.094 --> 00:47:30.496
Lives and the lifter of our heads.
00:47:30.562 --> 00:47:31.697
Heads. >> that's truth. and that truth
00:47:31.764 --> 00:47:34.767
>> that's truth. and that truth will make people free. because
00:47:34.833 --> 00:47:37.670
Will make people free. because a lot of our audience is going
00:47:37.736 --> 00:47:40.539
A lot of our audience is going through things and they're
00:47:40.606 --> 00:47:41.974
Through things and they're going to, if they're wise,
00:47:42.041 --> 00:47:44.143
Going to, if they're wise, they're going to sit and think
00:47:44.209 --> 00:47:50.316
They're going to sit and think about this, that this is just a
00:47:50.382 --> 00:47:52.017
About this, that this is just a process to take me to another
00:47:52.084 --> 00:47:53.686
Process to take me to another level. yep. romans 828 reohm
00:47:53.752 --> 00:47:54.820
Level. yep. romans 828 reohm yes, count it all. joy is real.
00:47:54.887 --> 00:47:56.689
Yes, count it all. joy is real. >> yes.
00:47:56.755 --> 00:47:56.922
>> yes. >> this is going to produce
00:47:56.989 --> 00:47:58.691
>> this is going to produce great things in my life, and
00:47:58.757 --> 00:47:59.858
Great things in my life, and you might as well start that
00:47:59.925 --> 00:48:01.694
You might as well start that process of thinking that way
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:02.928
Process of thinking that way now, rather than just having a
00:48:02.995 --> 00:48:05.831
Now, rather than just having a gut wrenching season and just
00:48:05.898 --> 00:48:08.267
Gut wrenching season and just get past it already in your
00:48:08.334 --> 00:48:10.536
Get past it already in your mind. and i'm already on the
00:48:10.602 --> 00:48:11.837
Mind. and i'm already on the other side of this thing. and i
00:48:11.904 --> 00:48:14.473
Other side of this thing. and i think that that is just giving
00:48:14.540 --> 00:48:16.875
Think that that is just giving you a more joyful life. i, i
00:48:16.942 --> 00:48:19.011
You a more joyful life. i, i remember my dad sucking it up
00:48:19.078 --> 00:48:21.246
Remember my dad sucking it up for nine years through this
00:48:21.313 --> 00:48:24.149
For nine years through this horrible lawsuit saying that we
00:48:24.216 --> 00:48:26.251
Horrible lawsuit saying that we went through at tbn. we had to
00:48:26.318 --> 00:48:28.454
Went through at tbn. we had to finally sue the federal
00:48:28.520 --> 00:48:30.222
Finally sue the federal government, tbn versus the
00:48:30.289 --> 00:48:33.525
Government, tbn versus the united states of america. at
00:48:33.592 --> 00:48:34.593
United states of america. at one point near the end of this
00:48:34.660 --> 00:48:36.729
One point near the end of this litigation. and it was all a
00:48:36.795 --> 00:48:39.498
Litigation. and it was all a total victory, 3 to 0 victory
00:48:39.565 --> 00:48:41.834
Total victory, 3 to 0 victory at the appellate court. it was
00:48:41.900 --> 00:48:43.235
At the appellate court. it was a sponge out of the record, and
00:48:43.302 --> 00:48:45.037
A sponge out of the record, and it was a complete victory, was
00:48:45.104 --> 00:48:46.839
It was a complete victory, was a nine year thing that my dad
00:48:46.905 --> 00:48:48.540
A nine year thing that my dad lived in. hell yeah. for nine
00:48:48.607 --> 00:48:50.342
Lived in. hell yeah. for nine years. nine years.
00:48:50.409 --> 00:48:51.410
Years. nine years. >> absolutely.
00:48:51.477 --> 00:48:52.878
>> absolutely. >> and but if we could get it,
00:48:52.945 --> 00:48:54.880
>> and but if we could get it, we could walk through it with
00:48:54.947 --> 00:48:55.981
We could walk through it with joy.
00:48:56.048 --> 00:48:56.148
Joy. >> he could, you know, he could
00:48:56.215 --> 00:48:59.018
>> he could, you know, he could have had a more expectant
00:48:59.084 --> 00:49:04.390
Have had a more expectant version of his experience, but
00:49:04.456 --> 00:49:06.592
Version of his experience, but he lived with a gut punch for
00:49:06.658 --> 00:49:09.395
He lived with a gut punch for about nine years. yeah. you
00:49:09.461 --> 00:49:11.296
About nine years. yeah. you know.
00:49:11.363 --> 00:49:11.563
Know. >> absolutely.
00:49:11.630 --> 00:49:12.398
>> absolutely. >> and he didn't have to.
00:49:12.464 --> 00:49:15.267
>> and he didn't have to. >> right.
00:49:15.334 --> 00:49:15.534
>> right. >> but what i love about what
00:49:15.601 --> 00:49:17.169
>> but what i love about what you started with, go back to
00:49:17.236 --> 00:49:18.971
You started with, go back to the beginning about how how
00:49:19.038 --> 00:49:20.239
The beginning about how how stephen suffered and how it
00:49:20.305 --> 00:49:22.074
Stephen suffered and how it changed paul's life. i love
00:49:22.141 --> 00:49:24.209
Changed paul's life. i love that. and so people are
00:49:24.276 --> 00:49:26.045
That. and so people are watching you, if not people
00:49:26.111 --> 00:49:28.280
Watching you, if not people around you, your kids. yes.
00:49:28.347 --> 00:49:29.648
Around you, your kids. yes. show them how to do it. that's
00:49:29.715 --> 00:49:31.116
Show them how to do it. that's right. show them how to do it
00:49:31.183 --> 00:49:32.751
Right. show them how to do it well. show them how to believe
00:49:32.818 --> 00:49:34.653
Well. show them how to believe god through the through the
00:49:34.720 --> 00:49:35.721
God through the through the hard stuff.
00:49:35.788 --> 00:49:36.155
Hard stuff. >> pray for our audience and
00:49:36.221 --> 00:49:38.624
>> pray for our audience and just speak to them directly
00:49:38.690 --> 00:49:40.793
Just speak to them directly about the depth of really what
00:49:40.859 --> 00:49:42.528
About the depth of really what you're talking about. kind of
00:49:42.594 --> 00:49:43.962
You're talking about. kind of give a nice conclusion.
00:49:44.029 --> 00:49:45.097
Give a nice conclusion. >> and one of the things that
00:49:45.164 --> 00:49:46.932
>> and one of the things that both me and my wife tried to
00:49:46.999 --> 00:49:50.135
Both me and my wife tried to steward in our life and
00:49:50.202 --> 00:49:51.537
Steward in our life and practice, it comes from this
00:49:51.603 --> 00:49:54.773
Practice, it comes from this little nugget that the holy
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:56.575
Little nugget that the holy spirit gave us. and it was, if
00:49:56.642 --> 00:49:59.044
Spirit gave us. and it was, if we're going to laugh about it
00:49:59.111 --> 00:50:00.245
We're going to laugh about it later, we're going to laugh
00:50:00.312 --> 00:50:01.313
Later, we're going to laugh about it now.
00:50:01.380 --> 00:50:02.181
About it now. >> there you go. i love.
00:50:02.247 --> 00:50:04.049
>> there you go. i love. >> it, and i truly believe, had
00:50:04.116 --> 00:50:05.417
>> it, and i truly believe, had your dad known nine years from
00:50:05.484 --> 00:50:07.152
Your dad known nine years from the start of the battle, we
00:50:07.219 --> 00:50:08.320
The start of the battle, we would be victorious and things
00:50:08.387 --> 00:50:10.055
Would be victorious and things would work out the way we know
00:50:10.122 --> 00:50:11.790
Would work out the way we know that they would. you wouldn't
00:50:11.857 --> 00:50:13.659
That they would. you wouldn't have worried, stressed fear,
00:50:13.725 --> 00:50:16.095
Have worried, stressed fear, but he would have laughed about
00:50:16.161 --> 00:50:17.329
But he would have laughed about it. and so i just tried to keep
00:50:17.396 --> 00:50:19.231
It. and so i just tried to keep that at the forefront of my
00:50:19.298 --> 00:50:21.100
That at the forefront of my mind. if i'm going to laugh
00:50:21.166 --> 00:50:22.267
Mind. if i'm going to laugh about this later, and i will,
00:50:22.334 --> 00:50:24.103
About this later, and i will, because i know it's an attack
00:50:24.169 --> 00:50:25.237
Because i know it's an attack from the enemy. i know this is
00:50:25.304 --> 00:50:27.139
From the enemy. i know this is not the plan of god for my life.
00:50:27.206 --> 00:50:29.174
Not the plan of god for my life. i know this pain is temporary.
00:50:29.241 --> 00:50:30.409
I know this pain is temporary. i'm going to laugh about it now.
00:50:30.476 --> 00:50:32.211
I'm going to laugh about it now. and for our audience, i just
00:50:32.277 --> 00:50:34.079
And for our audience, i just want to read to you and pray
00:50:34.146 --> 00:50:35.314
Want to read to you and pray this over you. psalms chapter
00:50:35.380 --> 00:50:37.082
This over you. psalms chapter 27. the lord is my light and my
00:50:37.149 --> 00:50:39.084
Salvation. whom shall i fear?
00:50:39.151 --> 00:50:41.253
Salvation. whom shall i fear? the lord is the defense of my
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:43.722
The lord is the defense of my life. whom should i dread? when
00:50:43.789 --> 00:50:47.693
Life. whom should i dread? when evildoers came upon me to
00:50:47.759 --> 00:50:49.495
Evildoers came upon me to devour my flesh, my adversaries,
00:50:49.561 --> 00:50:51.497
Devour my flesh, my adversaries, and my enemies, they stumbled
00:50:51.563 --> 00:50:54.299
And my enemies, they stumbled and fell. if an army encamped
00:50:54.366 --> 00:50:57.469
And fell. if an army encamped against me, my heart will not
00:50:57.536 --> 00:50:59.605
Against me, my heart will not fear. if war arises against me.
00:50:59.671 --> 00:51:02.508
Fear. if war arises against me. in spite of this, i am
00:51:02.574 --> 00:51:05.811
In spite of this, i am confident. one thing i have
00:51:05.878 --> 00:51:08.313
Confident. one thing i have asked from the lord is that i
00:51:08.380 --> 00:51:10.382
Asked from the lord is that i shall seek, that i may dwell in
00:51:10.449 --> 00:51:13.252
Shall seek, that i may dwell in the house of the lord all the
00:51:13.318 --> 00:51:16.155
The house of the lord all the days of my life, to behold the
00:51:16.221 --> 00:51:18.991
Days of my life, to behold the beauty of the lord, and to
00:51:19.057 --> 00:51:21.927
Beauty of the lord, and to meditate in his temple. it's so
00:51:21.994 --> 00:51:23.428
Meditate in his temple. it's so good. i just want to encourage
00:51:23.495 --> 00:51:25.164
Good. i just want to encourage you with that. no matter what
00:51:25.230 --> 00:51:26.265
You with that. no matter what you're going through right now,
00:51:26.331 --> 00:51:28.000
You're going through right now, no matter what the season is,
00:51:28.066 --> 00:51:29.201
No matter what the season is, no matter what the
00:51:29.268 --> 00:51:30.169
No matter what the circumstances, the trial or the
00:51:30.235 --> 00:51:31.270
Tribulation, you may be under,
00:51:31.336 --> 00:51:33.005
Tribulation, you may be under, the pressure of life and pain
00:51:33.071 --> 00:51:34.573
The pressure of life and pain may be unbearable. but i want
00:51:34.640 --> 00:51:36.241
May be unbearable. but i want you to lift your head and point
00:51:36.308 --> 00:51:38.143
You to lift your head and point your eyes towards the hill like
00:51:38.210 --> 00:51:39.978
Your eyes towards the hill like stephen did. sing the glory of
00:51:40.045 --> 00:51:41.813
Stephen did. sing the glory of god and sing the son of man
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:43.148
God and sing the son of man standing at the right hand of
00:51:43.215 --> 00:51:44.850
Standing at the right hand of the father, knowing where your
00:51:44.917 --> 00:51:45.984
The father, knowing where your help comes from. because your
00:51:46.051 --> 00:51:47.853
Help comes from. because your help, it comes from the lord. i
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.390
Help, it comes from the lord. i pray this over you. i pray that
00:51:51.456 --> 00:51:53.292
Pray this over you. i pray that your eyes would be open and
00:51:53.358 --> 00:51:54.693
Your eyes would be open and your ears would be open, that
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:56.261
Your ears would be open, that you may see and hear the hand
00:51:56.328 --> 00:51:59.064
You may see and hear the hand of god like never before, and
00:51:59.131 --> 00:52:00.899
Of god like never before, and that you would know that even
00:52:00.966 --> 00:52:02.367
That you would know that even in seasons of pain that god is
00:52:02.434 --> 00:52:04.770
In seasons of pain that god is with you, not only is he with
00:52:04.836 --> 00:52:06.572
With you, not only is he with you, but he's for you. and if
00:52:06.638 --> 00:52:08.440
You, but he's for you. and if god be for you, who or what can
00:52:08.507 --> 00:52:10.876
God be for you, who or what can stand against you?
00:52:10.943 --> 00:52:13.011
Stand against you? >> beautiful.
00:52:13.078 --> 00:52:13.412
>> beautiful. >> selah. beautiful.
00:52:13.478 --> 00:52:15.147
>> selah. beautiful. >> wow. so the invitation to
00:52:15.214 --> 00:52:18.417
>> wow. so the invitation to come and do praise and just sit
00:52:18.483 --> 00:52:20.986
Come and do praise and just sit down and preach to us a little
00:52:21.053 --> 00:52:22.421
Down and preach to us a little bit.
00:52:22.487 --> 00:52:22.788
Bit. >> more sushi is necessary.
00:52:22.854 --> 00:52:24.256
>> more sushi is necessary. >> yeah. always open.
00:52:24.323 --> 00:52:26.725
>> yeah. always open. >> yes.
00:52:26.792 --> 00:52:27.426
>> yes. >> the first generation of
00:52:27.492 --> 00:52:29.261
>> the first generation of timberlake's. now we're on
00:52:29.328 --> 00:52:30.729
Timberlake's. now we're on generation number two. that's
00:52:30.796 --> 00:52:31.763
Generation number two. that's right, tim timberlake. thank
00:52:31.830 --> 00:52:33.198
Right, tim timberlake. thank you. celebration church airs on
00:52:33.265 --> 00:52:36.802
You. celebration church airs on tbn sundays at 5:30 p.m.
00:52:36.868 --> 00:52:39.671
Tbn sundays at 5:30 p.m. eastern time. and thank you for
00:52:39.738 --> 00:52:41.873
Eastern time. and thank you for being here. we love you very
00:52:41.940 --> 00:52:43.542
Being here. we love you very much. we'll see you next time.
00:52:43.609 --> 00:53:00.000

Tim Timberlake: The Fruit of Faith in Difficult Seasons | Praise

May 19, 2026 | 53:0

Closed captions

Share