Renowned gospel singer Wintley Phipps showcases his dedication to music and faith in a powerful symphonic tribute to the songs of Bill and Gloria Gaither. Through his unique voice and musical talent, Wintley embodies the essence of the spiritual messages in the songs, bringing comfort, joy, and inspiration to listeners. The project not only highlights the beauty of the songs but also celebrates the transformative power of music and the deep connection between art, faith, and the human experience. This tribute serves as a reminder of the enduring impact of faith-based music and its ability to uplift and unite people across generations and backgrounds.
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Praise | Wintley Phipps: Shine Your Light: The Sound of Faith | Praise | November 13, 2025
- >> coming up tonight on praise.
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- >> is strength in the name of the lord. and there is power in
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- The name of the lord. churches throughout the ages have
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- Focused on the three b's. the first b is believing, the
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- Second b is belonging, the third b is behaving. there
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- Almost are no bible studies on becoming becoming like jesus.
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- >> tonight on praise from dallas, acclaimed gospel
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- Vocalist and two time grammy nominee wintley phipps. now
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- Your hosts matt and laurie crouch.
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- >> today is a day that the lord has made. i will rejoice and be
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- Glad in it because wintley phipps is in the house.
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- >> thank you.
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- >> my dear, dear, dear friend.
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- >> thank you.
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- >> okay, we got to go way back in the wayback machine for a
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- Second. yeah. you love the music of bill and gloria
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- Gaither. we're going to be talking about a new project
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- That you've done, a symphonic tribute to the songs of bill
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- And gloria gaither little orchestra there in prague. yes.
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- And all of that kind of stuff. but we kind of got to go back
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- That you have been interfacing with bill and gloria all the
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- Way back years and years ago. one of your songs that you did
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- When you did amazing grace as a nine over 11 tribute at
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- Carnegie hall with the with the gaithers? yes. that clip has
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- Gone viral for years.
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- >> yes.
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- >> tens and tens and tens of millions. last time i looked,
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- It was 60 million views just across youtube and facebook.
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- Okay. you are a gospel singer and i don't normally do this,
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- But prove it to our audience. prove it that you're a singer,
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- Wintley phipps.
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- >> well, first, i'll say thanks so much for the privilege of
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- Being here. and bill and gloria gaither, to me, they are the
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- Most incredible, iconic songwriters of our time.
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- >> yes.
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- >> i call them flashback songs, you know, that you grew up with.
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- So on this recording, i sang jesus, jesus. there's just
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- Something about that name. i sing, he touched me. oh, he
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- Touched me. because he lives, i can face tomorrow. since i met
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- This blessing. your. and since he's cleansed and made me whole.
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- I will never see. to praise him. i'll shout it while he turns to.
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- He touched me. oh, he touched me. and and. oh the joy that
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- Floods my soul. something happened. and now i know. he
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- Touched me. and made. me whole.
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- He touched me and made me whole.
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- >> you've proven it as a singer. i love that. and. and by the
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- Way, this is the first time a solo artist has done an entire
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- Project on just the songs of bill and gloria gaither. this
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- Is amazing. okay. it's available right now. all the
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- Information is on the screen. wintley you, you know, got this
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- All orchestrated. you did all this, and.
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- >> it's been big orchestra like that too. you know, i just love
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- So many churches. still do big orchestras.
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- >> yeah.
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- >> and some of the most favorite concerts that i ever
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- Do are with these big orchestras, you know, saint
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- Louis symphony or with boston pops. it's been the voice of
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- God has given me. by the way, 16 years old is when my voice
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- Changed. 15, actually.
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- >> wow.
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- >> and i have been sounding like this since 15 years old. i
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- Got video to prove it too.
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- >> i got a little thing for you to do. just. just kind of
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- Repeat after me. okay. just in your best voice.
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- >> yes.
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- >> this is matt crouch.
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- >> leave me a message.
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- >> okay. i need that clip. i need that for my phone. thank
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- You. awesome. okay, first of all, wintley, we're all smiles
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- Because we're happy. because we're friends. we've been
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- Friends. we were just sitting here and make sure we got the
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- Dates right.
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- >> yes.
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- >> as long as i've known laurie about. i've known you.
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- >> wow.
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- >> and we did a project together with billy graham.
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- Sandi patty, yourself.
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- >> mother teresa.
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- >> mother teresa. that was called a worldwide christmas
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- Celebration.
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- >> yes.
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- >> and it was one of the biggest productions tbn had
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- Ever done. wow. back in the mid 80s. 1985 for christmas. that's
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- When we would have known each other for the first time. right.
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- You can travel forward to many other times, but another
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- Significant time in 99.
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- >> right.
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- >> okay. so we're talking about before the turn of the century,
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- Right? we've been around a while. 1900s?
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- >> yeah.
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- >> back. way back in the 20th century.
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- >> right.
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- >> so then we did a project called the millennium chorus.
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- >> right.
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- >> and you and i went to this really weird place in nashville
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- That had broken windows.
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- >> water coming down.
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- >> water coming down. and we did a song called.
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- >> no need to fear, written by graham kendrick. gorgeous.
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- >> gorgeous song. yeah.
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- >> i love the last verse. says no need to fear. the envy and
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- The scorn of those who boast in what they own. oh for what
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- Remains. when life's brief day is done. all their glories are
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- But a setting sun.
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- >> ooh.
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- >> heyo! graham kendrick knows how to write. you know how to
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- Sing.
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- >> he hasn't changed today.
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- >> oh.
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- >> it's literally.
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- >> okay, then. if we move a little bit forward. the big
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- Thing we already mentioned 2002. there was a big carnegie hall
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- Event and your and your big that that wasn't the first time
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- That you had worked with the gaithers, but it was a big time.
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- Carnegie hall nine over 11 tribute piece. amazing and
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- Amazing grace.
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- >> i did the praise gatherings.
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- >> yeah. yes.
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- >> years before then. and i also want to thank god for the
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- Selflessness of bill and gloria gaither.
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- >> mmm.
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- >> because they have provided the platform and the
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- Opportunity for artists and gospel singers like myself to
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- Be heard, to share their ministry with the world. so
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- That's why i love them so much. but this amazing grace, the
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- Melody, for some strange reason, sounds like a west african
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- Sorrow chant because it was built on the pentatonic scale.
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- Okay. which is what all spirituals were built on. all
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- Spirituals, just about were built on. every time i feel the
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- Spirit or swing low, sweet chariot. all just the black
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- Notes on the piano. well, amazing grace is also built on
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- The same scale. and there are many who believe. maybe it's
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- Possible that john newton, who wrote the words. because when i
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- Went to the library of congress and i researched it, it said
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- Words. john newton, melody unknown.
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- >> oh, there you go.
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- >> so i imagine that john newton or someone heard this
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- Melody coming up out of the belly of a slave ship. a is
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- Where. with my soul. in is
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- Where? in is. where is my soul?
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- In is where? with my soul. is.
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- Where it is. well. my soul. is
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- Where. it is. well, with my soul.
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- >> is great. oh, praise is great.
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- >> may great. how sweet the sound. that say how. ilan like
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- Me. i want once long. but now
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- I'm found. was blind. but now. i see. well we. been there
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- 10,000. years. bright shine ing. and the upside. we know. last
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- Day. to sing god's praise. than when we first. gone. hallelujah,
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- Hallelujah. how? hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah.
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- >> amen.
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- >> hallelujah, hallelujah.
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- >> how? many?
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- >> one day i was in a prison. chuck colson mentored me. and
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- We started a ministry called the us dream academy. he said,
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- You know, this is a calling for you to help children of
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- Incarcerated parents. and so we built one of the first
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- Ministries of its kind, the tutors and mentors, children of
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- Incarcerated parents and children falling behind in
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- School because by the age of 30, 60% of all black boys in
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- America who don't graduate from high school will have been in
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- Prison by the age of 30.
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- >> wow.
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- >> and so if you want to save some black boys, make sure they
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- Get through school. make sure. and so i was with chuck colson
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- In a prison in marion, florida, and it was immense. i sang at
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- The men's prison and sang at the women's prison and the
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- Men's prison. i started to hum. and as i was humming, all of
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- The prisoners got up out of their seats.
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- >> wow.
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- >> without being told, and stood at attention like they
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- Were listening to the national anthem.
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- >> wow.
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- >> and ever since then, i called amazing grace the
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- National anthem of sinners.
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- >> wow.
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- >> it is the national anthem of sinners. and. and then i went
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- Over to the women's prison, sang at the women's prison. a
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- Young lady, after i hummed it again. young lady came up to me,
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- Pregnant, about to have her baby in prison. she said,
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- Excuse me, sir. tears in her eyes, she said, your wife named
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- Linda. i said, yes, she said, that's my aunt.
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- >> oh.
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- >> we didn't realize that my wife's brother's daughter was
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- In prison and about to give birth. and then we looked at
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- The family dynamics. so many children who end up going to
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- Prison are the children of prisoners.
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- >> wow.
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- >> and so we built the first ministry, us dream academy to
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- To minister to those kids and to help those falling behind.
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- >> and you've been doing that now for decades.
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- >> 30. yeah.
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- >> how long exactly?
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- >> almost 30 years.
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- >> 28 years.
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- >> 28 years. so if you're not singing before the seven
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- Presidents that you've sung for, if you're not doing an album
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- About bill and gloria, you're all about the dream academy and
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- Helping with this kind of a almost an after school program
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- Kind of a thing.
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- >> yeah. you know, as i was thinking about spending a few
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- Moments with you, with you both, what came to my mind was sing,
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- Study, serve. and that's been my life.
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- >> yeah. there you go.
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- >> sing. to the glory of god. i told lori a lot of people don't
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- Know, but i was asked to try out for the temptations.
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- >> yeah.
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- >> to be the bass. so i was really getting all together. i
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- Can turn a gray sky blue. i can make it rain whenever i want it
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- To.
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- >> it would have been awesome.
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- >> totally.
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- >> i may start it now.
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- >> sign.
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- >> sign this right here. yeah.
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- >> okay.
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- >> but the lord. the lord walked into my life and said.
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- I've seen your dreams. but give me your dreams.
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- >> yeah. there it is.
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- >> and i'll let you see what i've been dreaming for you.
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- >> yeah.
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- >> and you know. so singing has been my way of not only
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- Glorifying god, but also thanking god for saving my soul.
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- >> from the heart of gospel music comes a once in a
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- Generation voice. wintley phipps presents a symphonic
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- Tribute to the songs of bill and gloria gaither.
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- >> there is strength in the name of the lord. and there is
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- Power in the name of the lord.
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- >> get a symphonic tribute to the songs of bill and gloria
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- Gaither on cd for your gift of $20 or more, or receive three
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- Powerful albums, a symphonic tribute, hymns at the symphony,
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- And spirituals at the symphony for your gift of $40 or more.
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- >> when we first. got.
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- >> call (800) 452-6602 or tbn.tv to order a symphonic
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- Tribute to the songs of bill and gloria gaither.
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- >> your gift has made a way for you.
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- >> yes it has.
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- >> and we were just talking and just the influence and the
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- Impact that he has had around the world. for kings and
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- Princes. and he's just.
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- >> you know.
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- >> in places that have blown just blow your mind.
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- >> and i did most of the kind of talking earlier. can you
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- Confirm that you do know us. can can you just say, do you
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- Remember i mean, i was the one saying it. if you would just
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- Confirm on camera here that you do know us.
- 00:18:34.825 --> 00:18:37.061
- >> yes. we know each other.
- 00:18:37.061 --> 00:18:38.462
- >> very well. we know each other.
- 00:18:38.462 --> 00:18:40.698
- >> you like us, right?
- 00:18:40.698 --> 00:18:41.299
- >> and i love you. and?
- 00:18:41.299 --> 00:18:43.267
- >> and as the lord leads, he puts things in my heart to just
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- Minister.
- 00:18:47.371 --> 00:18:48.472
- >> to you. you bet. you.
- 00:18:48.472 --> 00:18:50.741
- >> you tell them that one.
- 00:18:50.741 --> 00:18:51.909
- >> it is in the quiet crucible of our personal, private
- 00:18:51.909 --> 00:18:56.547
- Sufferings that our noblest dreams are born. and god's
- 00:18:56.547 --> 00:19:01.552
- Greatest gifts are given. and often god gives his greatest
- 00:19:01.552 --> 00:19:06.224
- Gifts in compensation for what we have endured and what we
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- Have been through. and that quote has touched so many
- 00:19:11.295 --> 00:19:15.366
- People's lives. one day i saw terry bradshaw saying, my
- 00:19:15.366 --> 00:19:18.502
- Favorite quote is it is in the quiet crucible. i said, oh my
- 00:19:18.502 --> 00:19:22.273
- Goodness, you never know who's listening, you know.
- 00:19:22.273 --> 00:19:24.942
- >> well, that came to my phone. you're confirming you know me,
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- Right?
- 00:19:28.479 --> 00:19:29.380
- >> yes.
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- >> can can you say yes? because all you've done is laugh. so
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- Just absolutely. which some people would interpret. he
- 00:19:32.717 --> 00:19:35.453
- Didn't know them.
- 00:19:35.453 --> 00:19:36.187
- >> yeah.
- 00:19:36.187 --> 00:19:37.455
- >> okay. so. and you, you sent that to me one time that just
- 00:19:37.455 --> 00:19:42.393
- Melted both lori and i down. and and what a beautiful
- 00:19:42.393 --> 00:19:46.764
- Ministry friend you've been. i remember one time. you've
- 00:19:46.764 --> 00:19:52.370
- You've been a part of all of the, like, important stuff. you
- 00:19:52.370 --> 00:19:56.374
- Know, you go to the kennedy center, you go to the daughters
- 00:19:56.374 --> 00:19:59.443
- Of the revolution, you presidents, kings, all these
- 00:19:59.443 --> 00:20:02.680
- Types of people are around because of your gift. okay. one
- 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:08.219
- Time i honestly, as i sit here, i don't remember what president
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- It was, but we were in town for.
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- >> somebody.
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- >> one of the president's inauguration, and i've been to
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- 3 or 4 of them. it might have been obama's okay.
- 00:20:22.300 --> 00:20:25.236
- >> might have been. okay.
- 00:20:25.236 --> 00:20:26.504
- >> so you and i bump into.
- 00:20:26.504 --> 00:20:28.539
- >> each other.
- 00:20:28.539 --> 00:20:29.273
- >> that was it. your mom.
- 00:20:29.273 --> 00:20:30.441
- >> was there.
- 00:20:30.441 --> 00:20:31.609
- >> so my mom and dad and lori and i are going down this
- 00:20:31.609 --> 00:20:35.212
- Hallway, and we just smack dab, run into went and hug and kiss
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- And. okay, so then basically he says, what are you doing here?
- 00:20:38.816 --> 00:20:45.389
- You know, what events are you going to? and we were kind of
- 00:20:45.389 --> 00:20:49.393
- Trading. and he goes, he goes, are you going to the national
- 00:20:49.393 --> 00:20:53.431
- Cathedral tomorrow? i'm singing. and i said, no. those are kind
- 00:20:53.431 --> 00:20:58.669
- Of hard tickets to come by. and he goes, are. four tickets. we
- 00:20:58.669 --> 00:21:07.244
- Were sitting in seats that you gave us the tickets to, and,
- 00:21:07.244 --> 00:21:13.551
- You know, there's these other people named the clintons.
- 00:21:13.551 --> 00:21:16.287
- >> maybe you've heard of them.
- 00:21:16.287 --> 00:21:17.588
- >> they were sitting behind us.
- 00:21:17.588 --> 00:21:19.256
- >> okay. so, well.
- 00:21:19.256 --> 00:21:21.759
- >> one of the things that's just been the blessing in my
- 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:25.596
- Life is i have when you sing for seven presidents, you're
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- Going to have to sing for democrats and republicans,
- 00:21:33.003 --> 00:21:35.940
- Right? so one day, i sang in this big function in washington,
- 00:21:34.739 --> 00:21:39.510
- Where president clinton spoke same night. and by the way, i
- 00:21:39.510 --> 00:21:43.681
- Was the first african american to sing at the inauguration of
- 00:21:43.681 --> 00:21:49.520
- A president. when president george w bush asked me to sing.
- 00:21:49.520 --> 00:21:54.592
- >> isn't that awesome?
- 00:21:54.592 --> 00:21:55.793
- >> on the steps of the capitol.
- 00:21:55.793 --> 00:21:57.461
- >> beautiful.
- 00:21:57.461 --> 00:21:58.763
- >> i sang a song called heal our land. we all. this land
- 00:21:58.763 --> 00:22:02.533
- Needed healing. if you remember, it was.
- 00:22:02.533 --> 00:22:05.169
- >> you need.
- 00:22:05.169 --> 00:22:05.703
- >> to go back today.
- 00:22:05.703 --> 00:22:07.405
- >> and sing. and the song was written by senator orrin hatch.
- 00:22:07.405 --> 00:22:11.208
- >> of utah. absolutely. wow.
- 00:22:11.208 --> 00:22:13.177
- >> so. and and i'm thinking of this big function where
- 00:22:13.177 --> 00:22:18.149
- President clinton spoke. and the same night i had to rush
- 00:22:18.149 --> 00:22:21.452
- Across town and singing this big republican function. so
- 00:22:21.452 --> 00:22:23.387
- When i got there, i announced that i had just come from
- 00:22:23.387 --> 00:22:27.425
- Singing for the president of the united states. and there
- 00:22:27.425 --> 00:22:29.360
- Was this boo and rumbling that went through the audience. and
- 00:22:29.360 --> 00:22:32.296
- I said, wait a minute, wait a minute. i said, i always go
- 00:22:32.296 --> 00:22:35.499
- Where people really need the lord.
- 00:22:35.499 --> 00:22:37.334
- >> yes.
- 00:22:37.334 --> 00:22:38.569
- >> and there was this polite applause. and then i said, and
- 00:22:38.569 --> 00:22:43.507
- That's why i'm here. because i don't care what party you're.
- 00:22:43.507 --> 00:22:48.646
- >> from.
- 00:22:48.646 --> 00:22:49.747
- >> you need the lord. and that's how i approach. and
- 00:22:49.747 --> 00:22:52.516
- That's to me, really.
- 00:22:52.516 --> 00:22:53.684
- >> i love that.
- 00:22:53.684 --> 00:22:54.618
- >> that's the billy graham approach.
- 00:22:54.618 --> 00:22:56.454
- >> yeah.
- 00:22:56.454 --> 00:22:58.088
- >> so all i know is when he gives you the tickets, they're.
- 00:22:56.787 --> 00:23:01.225
- >> good ones. okay, good.
- 00:23:01.225 --> 00:23:03.694
- >> so bill and gloria gaither, prolific songwriters. you know,
- 00:23:03.694 --> 00:23:08.432
- Gloria writes most of the songs, so we have to give credit.
- 00:23:08.432 --> 00:23:11.535
- >> where credit is due.
- 00:23:11.535 --> 00:23:13.571
- >> but you decided as an artist, that is your gift is taking you
- 00:23:13.571 --> 00:23:18.175
- All over the world to jump in and do this. give us day one of
- 00:23:18.175 --> 00:23:22.246
- This project in your mind.
- 00:23:22.246 --> 00:23:25.249
- >> well, the most important thing about this project is
- 00:23:25.249 --> 00:23:30.654
- When god gives you a gift, you have to be a steward of it, and
- 00:23:30.654 --> 00:23:38.329
- You have to thank god. with the technologies today, you're able
- 00:23:38.329 --> 00:23:44.201
- To keep a song, a gift of a song presented to people till
- 00:23:44.201 --> 00:23:51.242
- Jesus comes. i mean, literally what we recorded with this big
- 00:23:51.242 --> 00:23:59.149
- Orchestra and all those iconic songs, it's going to be here
- 00:23:59.149 --> 00:24:04.555
- Til jesus comes and and i, i don't have the words literally
- 00:24:04.555 --> 00:24:09.860
- To express my gratitude to bill and gloria gaither. to me, only
- 00:24:09.860 --> 00:24:15.366
- When they get to heaven will they know the souls that were
- 00:24:15.366 --> 00:24:21.105
- Saved.
- 00:24:21.105 --> 00:24:21.438
- >> yeah.
- 00:24:21.438 --> 00:24:23.641
- >> because of those songs, you know, and and they wrote it.
- 00:24:23.641 --> 00:24:27.344
- The song they wrote with sandi patty. there is strength in the
- 00:24:27.344 --> 00:24:32.683
- Name of the lord. we do that. a song they wrote with richard
- 00:24:32.683 --> 00:24:37.955
- Smallwood. jesus is the center of my joy. i recorded that, too.
- 00:24:37.955 --> 00:24:44.161
- And so singing, serving is my dream academy. that's how i
- 00:24:44.161 --> 00:24:53.170
- Serve the least of these. yeah, that's how in jesus name, i
- 00:24:53.170 --> 00:24:58.208
- Give a cup of water. and when my plans have fallen through.
- 00:24:58.208 --> 00:25:07.518
- And when my strength is nearly gone. when there's nothing left
- 00:25:07.518 --> 00:25:16.360
- To do but just depend on you. and the power of your name. as
- 00:25:16.360 --> 00:25:28.072
- We call upon your name. your strength through weakness to
- 00:25:29.139 --> 00:25:38.749
- Show. we can know the master's plan. extend the master's hand
- 00:25:38.749 --> 00:25:47.591
- When we come in the name of the lord. there is strength in the
- 00:25:47.591 --> 00:25:58.736
- Name of the lord. and there is power in the name of the lord.
- 00:25:59.937 --> 00:26:10.648
- There is hope in the name of the lord. blessed is he who
- 00:26:10.648 --> 00:26:20.791
- Comes in the name of the lord. his name will be worshiped
- 00:26:21.925 --> 00:26:32.603
- Forever. green, our redeemer, and came. again is strength in
- 00:26:32.603 --> 00:26:46.583
- The name of the lord. and there is power in the name of the
- 00:26:47.718 --> 00:26:55.826
- Lord. there is hope in the name of the lord. blessed is he who
- 00:26:55.826 --> 00:27:07.071
- Comes. i know it. blessed is he who comes. in the name. of. the
- 00:27:08.272 --> 00:27:24.888
- Lord. the name of the lord. you
- 00:27:25.522 --> 00:27:43.340
- Know, we have come to a time when the church is in a real
- 00:27:44.408 --> 00:27:53.317
- Pickle. i can say it like that. this year alone, 2025, pew
- 00:27:53.317 --> 00:28:00.390
- Research tells us that 15,000 christian churches will close
- 00:28:00.390 --> 00:28:05.496
- Their doors for good. 15,000, and i don't know if you've been
- 00:28:05.496 --> 00:28:11.401
- Around to a lot of them, not the ones on tv and the mega,
- 00:28:11.401 --> 00:28:16.240
- But just the regular churches. the pews are empty. it's very
- 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:21.378
- It's a it's a very difficult situation and people are not
- 00:28:21.378 --> 00:28:25.315
- Coming like since covid, people are just not coming like they
- 00:28:25.315 --> 00:28:29.453
- Did. well, we have to be able to use the technologies to
- 00:28:29.453 --> 00:28:35.292
- Reach those people. and so god blessed me to build something
- 00:28:35.292 --> 00:28:39.463
- Called become like jesus. com.
- 00:28:39.463 --> 00:28:42.466
- >> okay.
- 00:28:42.466 --> 00:28:43.700
- >> and it uses, you know, martin luther, we talked about
- 00:28:43.700 --> 00:28:47.938
- Martin luther, martin luther jumped all over the most
- 00:28:47.938 --> 00:28:53.677
- Groundbreaking technology of his time, which happened to be
- 00:28:53.677 --> 00:28:56.346
- The printing press. and by 1525, i think it was that more than
- 00:28:56.346 --> 00:29:03.153
- Half of all books in germany were martin luther's books, and
- 00:29:03.153 --> 00:29:07.457
- He was able to bypass the entrenched religious
- 00:29:07.457 --> 00:29:12.696
- Institutions and take the word of god.
- 00:29:12.696 --> 00:29:15.599
- >> to the people.
- 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:16.700
- >> to the people, directly to the people. well, the
- 00:29:16.700 --> 00:29:19.336
- Technologies that we have today that we built become like jesus.
- 00:29:19.336 --> 00:29:24.608
- Dot.com is actually doing that. and it's this is the exciting
- 00:29:24.608 --> 00:29:29.046
- Part. it's tailoring spiritual guidance to the needs of the
- 00:29:29.046 --> 00:29:36.053
- Individual. look, amazon does it netflix does it. they use
- 00:29:36.053 --> 00:29:41.491
- Technology to figure out what you need. well we can use that
- 00:29:41.491 --> 00:29:46.230
- Technology to if you put in if you go to become like jesus com
- 00:29:46.230 --> 00:29:51.935
- And you put in, i am discouraged. i need god's help
- 00:29:51.935 --> 00:29:55.339
- And you just hit enter. it builds a devotional for you. it
- 00:29:55.339 --> 00:29:59.309
- Builds a sermon for you. it ministers to you. it speaks in
- 00:29:59.309 --> 00:30:05.249
- We. we studied the way jesus preached, and we've trained
- 00:30:05.249 --> 00:30:11.421
- This to speak using the literary tools that jesus
- 00:30:11.421 --> 00:30:17.227
- Himself used when he communicated.
- 00:30:17.227 --> 00:30:19.296
- >> got it.
- 00:30:19.296 --> 00:30:20.631
- >> and there's no greater communicator that has ever been
- 00:30:20.631 --> 00:30:23.333
- In the history of the earth than jesus, who when he spoke,
- 00:30:23.333 --> 00:30:27.304
- He knew what to say and how to say it, to speak to the hearts
- 00:30:27.304 --> 00:30:31.475
- Of people.
- 00:30:31.475 --> 00:30:32.943
- >> you're talking about technology changing things?
- 00:30:32.943 --> 00:30:35.245
- >> yes.
- 00:30:35.245 --> 00:30:36.546
- >> you're sitting you're you're preaching to the choir here.
- 00:30:36.546 --> 00:30:39.483
- You know, technology is you know what? largely i grew up in
- 00:30:39.483 --> 00:30:44.154
- My dad was building radios when he was a kid.
- 00:30:44.154 --> 00:30:48.091
- >> yes.
- 00:30:48.091 --> 00:30:49.426
- >> then to television and the. the interesting thing is you're
- 00:30:49.426 --> 00:30:53.463
- Using ai to help build a program for somebody. right.
- 00:30:53.463 --> 00:30:59.269
- That some church would kind of do one of these little kind of
- 00:30:59.269 --> 00:31:03.440
- Things like this. you you can't use ai. that's that's the
- 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.444
- Devil's business, you know, and all that.
- 00:31:07.444 --> 00:31:09.613
- >> now, let me address how we did it. large language models
- 00:31:09.613 --> 00:31:13.350
- Like chatgpt and claude and copilot and others. i liken
- 00:31:13.350 --> 00:31:17.287
- Them to the tree of knowledge of good and evil. got it.
- 00:31:17.287 --> 00:31:21.191
- Because they have read everything good and evil. and
- 00:31:21.191 --> 00:31:25.295
- When you ask it a question, you have to watch with an eagle eye
- 00:31:25.295 --> 00:31:29.199
- To be sure that some of the evil doesn't come through.
- 00:31:29.199 --> 00:31:33.704
- >> right.
- 00:31:33.704 --> 00:31:34.771
- >> right. so the way we've dealt with that is we've
- 00:31:34.771 --> 00:31:38.041
- Trained the technology using what's called a small language
- 00:31:38.041 --> 00:31:42.245
- Model.
- 00:31:42.245 --> 00:31:42.612
- >> got it.
- 00:31:42.612 --> 00:31:43.814
- >> instead of a large language. in other words, we've only
- 00:31:43.814 --> 00:31:46.183
- Included vetted, biblical, trusted resources.
- 00:31:46.183 --> 00:31:49.486
- >> got it.
- 00:31:49.486 --> 00:31:50.153
- >> and we say you stay.
- 00:31:50.153 --> 00:31:52.189
- >> it's pulling from the stuff you told it to pull from.
- 00:31:52.189 --> 00:31:55.592
- >> absolutely. and the stuff that's trusted and that's
- 00:31:55.592 --> 00:31:58.595
- Biblical. and. and then the lord gave me something called a
- 00:31:58.595 --> 00:32:05.535
- Linguistic search algorithm. linguistic search algorithm.
- 00:32:05.535 --> 00:32:11.441
- And what it is god showed me that chatgpt and these others,
- 00:32:11.441 --> 00:32:18.181
- They skim. they don't mine. they skim for what i call
- 00:32:18.181 --> 00:32:25.422
- Google gems on the surface. and then they do what they do best,
- 00:32:25.422 --> 00:32:29.259
- And that is they organize them. all this technology can really
- 00:32:29.259 --> 00:32:33.263
- Organize and then present it to you in a coherent fashion. but
- 00:32:33.263 --> 00:32:37.234
- If you ask it, can you tell me more? tell me more about what
- 00:32:37.234 --> 00:32:41.538
- You just, you know, gave me or what i asked you about? it
- 00:32:41.538 --> 00:32:45.542
- Starts to flounder. as a matter of fact, there's a term in the
- 00:32:45.542 --> 00:32:49.546
- Technology. it begins to hallucinate.
- 00:32:49.546 --> 00:32:51.314
- >> wow.
- 00:32:51.314 --> 00:32:51.815
- >> have you heard.
- 00:32:51.815 --> 00:32:52.582
- >> of that term? no.
- 00:32:52.582 --> 00:32:54.484
- >> yes. it makes. listen. it makes up stuff on you.
- 00:32:54.484 --> 00:32:57.521
- >> hey, yo.
- 00:32:57.521 --> 00:32:59.423
- >> i'm telling you.
- 00:32:59.423 --> 00:33:00.323
- >> i'm kind of used to that.
- 00:33:00.323 --> 00:33:01.525
- >> yeah. wait.
- 00:33:01.525 --> 00:33:04.127
- >> don't take that personally.
- 00:33:04.127 --> 00:33:05.562
- >> feels like maybe. okay.
- 00:33:05.562 --> 00:33:06.396
- >> go ahead.
- 00:33:06.396 --> 00:33:07.664
- >> no, but literally, it makes up stuff. i can i can ask it.
- 00:33:07.664 --> 00:33:12.202
- Can you tell me what matt had to say about climbing mount
- 00:33:12.202 --> 00:33:18.341
- Everest? and sometimes if it can't find something, it'll
- 00:33:18.341 --> 00:33:23.280
- It'll make up. well, matt said he loved climbing mount everest.
- 00:33:23.280 --> 00:33:27.417
- It does it. you know, it's called hallucination. it's
- 00:33:27.417 --> 00:33:30.587
- Hallucinating, and.
- 00:33:30.587 --> 00:33:31.788
- >> it understands thoughts then. because in my thoughts, i
- 00:33:31.788 --> 00:33:35.158
- Climbed mount everest. so i'm okay with that.
- 00:33:35.158 --> 00:33:38.562
- >> well.
- 00:33:38.562 --> 00:33:39.696
- >> and then the other thing that's really the most
- 00:33:39.696 --> 00:33:42.399
- Dangerous part. and that's why everybody who's concerned is
- 00:33:42.399 --> 00:33:45.635
- Concerned is that the technology today has the
- 00:33:45.635 --> 00:33:50.240
- Ability to develop what's called agency. agency, meaning
- 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:55.912
- It can think on its own, plan on its own, execute on its own.
- 00:33:55.912 --> 00:34:01.485
- If you if you try to shut it down, it recognizes he's trying
- 00:34:01.485 --> 00:34:05.555
- To shut me down. and i'm going to come up with ways to stop
- 00:34:05.555 --> 00:34:10.794
- Him. it has that ability. but what we've done is we've said
- 00:34:10.794 --> 00:34:16.766
- We're not going to use.
- 00:34:16.766 --> 00:34:18.435
- >> all of that. right.
- 00:34:18.435 --> 00:34:19.636
- >> we're going to train it just to help people become like
- 00:34:19.636 --> 00:34:24.741
- Jesus.
- 00:34:24.741 --> 00:34:26.610
- >> interesting.
- 00:34:26.610 --> 00:34:27.811
- >> and only use vetted biblical resources and use this
- 00:34:27.811 --> 00:34:33.016
- Linguistic search algorithm to mine for more content as
- 00:34:33.016 --> 00:34:36.386
- Opposed to just skimming.
- 00:34:36.386 --> 00:34:37.521
- >> first of all, i love the fact that you're kind of a
- 00:34:37.521 --> 00:34:41.091
- Serial entrepreneur. you're a singer, you know you're a giver,
- 00:34:41.091 --> 00:34:45.128
- You're using technology.
- 00:34:45.128 --> 00:34:47.397
- >> and andrew, 71.
- 00:34:47.397 --> 00:34:49.332
- >> years old throughout.
- 00:34:49.332 --> 00:34:51.101
- >> ages doing this.
- 00:34:51.101 --> 00:34:52.335
- >> but but here's my point. christians usually are saying,
- 00:34:52.335 --> 00:34:57.507
- Wait, technology is bad.
- 00:34:57.507 --> 00:34:59.442
- >> you know, as tv, so were the 80s.
- 00:34:59.442 --> 00:35:02.279
- >> well, let's go back to what what? we started this
- 00:35:02.279 --> 00:35:05.482
- Conversation. luther and the printing press was evil.
- 00:35:05.482 --> 00:35:08.118
- >> you know? yeah.
- 00:35:08.118 --> 00:35:09.219
- >> and then radio and then television. and my dad was
- 00:35:09.219 --> 00:35:14.891
- Raised us in a world that said, wait a second, technology is
- 00:35:14.891 --> 00:35:21.698
- Neutral.
- 00:35:21.698 --> 00:35:22.199
- >> that's exactly.
- 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:23.466
- >> only the intentions of those that are, quote, training the
- 00:35:23.466 --> 00:35:27.370
- Ai model in this case.
- 00:35:27.370 --> 00:35:29.339
- >> right.
- 00:35:29.339 --> 00:35:31.041
- >> and your intentions are to help us be more like jesus.
- 00:35:31.041 --> 00:35:34.878
- >> absolutely.
- 00:35:34.878 --> 00:35:36.079
- >> and so you have a small language model, not a large
- 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.349
- Language model. you vetted everything that it knows. and
- 00:35:39.349 --> 00:35:43.286
- So this is a godly technology thing. and by the way, if it
- 00:35:43.286 --> 00:35:48.692
- Wasn't for thinkers like you and before you, my dad, you
- 00:35:48.692 --> 00:35:53.330
- Know, and pat robertson and others like that, that seized
- 00:35:53.330 --> 00:35:58.101
- Television because everybody and their uncle thought back in
- 00:35:58.101 --> 00:36:01.371
- The 70s when paul crouch and, and others were starting to
- 00:36:01.371 --> 00:36:06.710
- Build tv stations, they were going to basically have
- 00:36:06.710 --> 00:36:10.380
- Everyone never going to church again. and, you know, my dad
- 00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:14.417
- Looked at me one time and said, i don't have any friends.
- 00:36:14.417 --> 00:36:17.254
- Everyone. when i started my ministry, everyone thought i
- 00:36:17.254 --> 00:36:19.422
- Was trying to, you know, kind. of take their church members
- 00:36:19.422 --> 00:36:22.359
- Away and all that, you know? so the idea that you're stepping
- 00:36:22.359 --> 00:36:27.330
- Into something that some people might consider controversial.
- 00:36:27.330 --> 00:36:30.533
- Good on you.
- 00:36:30.533 --> 00:36:31.534
- >> well thank you. let me tell you the music.
- 00:36:31.534 --> 00:36:35.472
- >> yeah.
- 00:36:35.472 --> 00:36:36.640
- >> everything we do, the purpose of it is to help people
- 00:36:36.640 --> 00:36:42.445
- Grow, to become more like the character of christ. because if
- 00:36:42.445 --> 00:36:47.917
- You don't become like jesus, what's the point of being a
- 00:36:47.917 --> 00:36:52.622
- Christian?
- 00:36:52.622 --> 00:36:53.123
- >> yeah.
- 00:36:53.123 --> 00:36:54.190
- >> can you give me. can you give me one?
- 00:36:54.190 --> 00:36:57.193
- >> no, i'm agreeing with you. you're looking at me like i'm
- 00:36:57.193 --> 00:37:00.297
- Arguing with. i'm not going to argue with you. ever.
- 00:37:00.297 --> 00:37:02.632
- >> okay. so.
- 00:37:02.632 --> 00:37:04.234
- >> so i agree with you.
- 00:37:04.234 --> 00:37:05.635
- >> i get it.
- 00:37:05.635 --> 00:37:06.870
- >> if you don't become like jesus, what is the point of
- 00:37:06.870 --> 00:37:12.208
- Being a christian? yeah, right. and i tell people, churches
- 00:37:12.208 --> 00:37:17.847
- Throughout the ages have focused on the three b's. the
- 00:37:17.847 --> 00:37:22.719
- First b is believing. we call that discipleship. we're trying
- 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.490
- To get people to believe what we believe to join our team.
- 00:37:27.490 --> 00:37:32.462
- The second b is belonging. we want you to become one of us.
- 00:37:32.462 --> 00:37:37.200
- Get your name on the rolls. you're you're one of us. you
- 00:37:37.200 --> 00:37:41.671
- Belong with us. the third b is behaving.
- 00:37:41.671 --> 00:37:45.709
- >> so behave.
- 00:37:45.709 --> 00:37:47.544
- >> we want you to behave the way we think a christian should
- 00:37:47.544 --> 00:37:52.482
- Behave. and we teach about it. there almost are no bible
- 00:37:52.482 --> 00:37:57.654
- Studies on becoming, becoming like jesus. and that's why we
- 00:37:57.654 --> 00:38:05.895
- Have trained this technology to help grow the individual. now
- 00:38:05.895 --> 00:38:11.301
- It's not for everybody. what i mean by it's for everybody, but
- 00:38:11.301 --> 00:38:15.271
- It's it's best used by people who are serious about wanting
- 00:38:15.271 --> 00:38:19.576
- To become like jesus.
- 00:38:19.576 --> 00:38:21.378
- >> and to study.
- 00:38:21.378 --> 00:38:22.245
- >> and to love.
- 00:38:22.245 --> 00:38:23.213
- >> and to be transformed.
- 00:38:23.213 --> 00:38:25.382
- >> absolutely. but you have to be serious because people say,
- 00:38:25.382 --> 00:38:27.851
- Well, i can use it every now and. no, no, no. look, jesus
- 00:38:27.851 --> 00:38:33.957
- Went to his father every day. yeah. unbroken. one of my
- 00:38:33.957 --> 00:38:41.164
- Favorite writers said we were created for unbroken communion
- 00:38:41.164 --> 00:38:46.936
- With god. you know, and when you're when you have free
- 00:38:46.936 --> 00:38:53.743
- Thinking time, train your mind to think and to pray and to
- 00:38:53.743 --> 00:38:58.481
- Talk with the lord and pray that god will give you a life
- 00:38:58.481 --> 00:39:02.819
- Of unbroken communion with him. and when you when you're
- 00:39:02.819 --> 00:39:08.825
- Finished with the distraction, go back to your prayer life. go
- 00:39:08.825 --> 00:39:14.531
- Back to your communion with god.
- 00:39:14.531 --> 00:39:16.199
- >> beautiful.
- 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:17.434
- >> yeah.
- 00:39:17.434 --> 00:39:18.268
- >> beautiful.
- 00:39:18.268 --> 00:39:18.935
- >> you are one complex guy.
- 00:39:18.935 --> 00:39:20.637
- >> i love.
- 00:39:20.637 --> 00:39:21.604
- >> it, and i love it. your gift. music?
- 00:39:21.604 --> 00:39:25.375
- >> yes.
- 00:39:25.375 --> 00:39:26.643
- >> your service dream academy, right? and your discipleship
- 00:39:26.643 --> 00:39:32.215
- Piece. what word did you use for your.
- 00:39:32.215 --> 00:39:34.517
- >> to become like jesus?
- 00:39:34.517 --> 00:39:35.452
- >> yeah.
- 00:39:35.452 --> 00:39:36.286
- >> well. but you use three words.
- 00:39:36.286 --> 00:39:38.488
- >> tailored spiritual guidance.
- 00:39:38.488 --> 00:39:41.558
- >> there it is. so you're basically wanting to grow
- 00:39:41.558 --> 00:39:45.261
- People. you're wanting to help people and you're wanting to,
- 00:39:45.261 --> 00:39:49.098
- In essence, use your gift to make a way for all that. and so
- 00:39:49.098 --> 00:39:52.669
- Here's the only problem with all.
- 00:39:52.669 --> 00:39:54.771
- >> that, okay.
- 00:39:54.771 --> 00:39:56.139
- >> you haven't sung anything in about 12 minutes. so if you can
- 00:39:56.139 --> 00:39:59.309
- Give me a little piece of something, just anything that
- 00:39:59.309 --> 00:40:02.512
- Comes to your mind just to prove you're a singer.
- 00:40:02.512 --> 00:40:04.481
- >> well, i would share with you what i. often when people
- 00:40:04.481 --> 00:40:09.385
- Really need jesus, when they're going through a difficult time,
- 00:40:09.385 --> 00:40:13.490
- There's an old spiritual that keeps coming in my head i want
- 00:40:13.490 --> 00:40:18.528
- Jesus. to walk with me. i want jesus. to walk with me. all
- 00:40:18.528 --> 00:40:33.877
- Along my. pilgrim journey. lord, i want jesus, jesus to walk
- 00:40:35.011 --> 00:40:49.292
- With me.
- 00:40:49.526 --> 00:40:55.064
- >> you've proven it again.
- 00:40:55.064 --> 00:40:57.267
- >> okay, i have a question.
- 00:40:57.267 --> 00:40:58.668
- >> yes, ma'am.
- 00:40:58.668 --> 00:40:59.903
- >> when you start to sing like that, do you ever get in the
- 00:40:59.903 --> 00:41:03.740
- Wrong key or do you always know? do you have that gift of.
- 00:41:03.740 --> 00:41:07.143
- >> i think i do. i think i think. the lord, lord kind of
- 00:41:07.143 --> 00:41:10.713
- Directs me. forgive me for being to come out of that
- 00:41:10.713 --> 00:41:13.383
- Moment with something comical.
- 00:41:13.383 --> 00:41:15.218
- >> okay. please.
- 00:41:15.218 --> 00:41:16.586
- >> but that's the complexity side.
- 00:41:16.586 --> 00:41:18.588
- >> of it.
- 00:41:18.588 --> 00:41:20.590
- >> but when i was 15 years old, my voice changed. i have
- 00:41:20.590 --> 00:41:24.193
- Sounded like this since 15 and i didn't have any voice
- 00:41:24.193 --> 00:41:27.964
- Teachers, but i found my voice teacher on the radio and i
- 00:41:27.964 --> 00:41:31.100
- Would listen to this voice. i'm 15 and i'm listening to this
- 00:41:31.100 --> 00:41:34.804
- Voice, and i would practice sounding like this voice on the
- 00:41:34.804 --> 00:41:37.607
- Radio. so for my 34th wedding anniversary this year, i've
- 00:41:37.607 --> 00:41:40.443
- Been married 49 years.
- 00:41:40.443 --> 00:41:41.144
- >> my goodness.
- 00:41:41.144 --> 00:41:42.412
- >> so for my 34th wedding anniversary, i sent to my wife,
- 00:41:42.412 --> 00:41:45.448
- My voice teacher on the radio. i wonder if he's still in
- 00:41:45.448 --> 00:41:48.284
- Concert. i googled and lo and behold, he was in concert. so i
- 00:41:48.284 --> 00:41:51.588
- Bought plane tickets and concert tickets. something told
- 00:41:51.588 --> 00:41:53.456
- Me, send him a message. so i sent him an email. i said, sir,
- 00:41:53.456 --> 00:41:56.459
- When i was 15, i didn't have any voice teachers. you became
- 00:41:56.459 --> 00:41:59.462
- My voice teacher on the radio. you have been my musical
- 00:41:59.462 --> 00:42:02.565
- Inspiration, my musical north star. i want to tell you all
- 00:42:02.565 --> 00:42:05.401
- I've gone on to do with that inspiration. and i was the last
- 00:42:05.401 --> 00:42:08.371
- One to sing amazing grace for mother teresa before she died.
- 00:42:08.371 --> 00:42:12.075
- >> wasn't barry white.
- 00:42:12.075 --> 00:42:13.443
- >> was it?
- 00:42:13.443 --> 00:42:14.310
- >> it wasn't barry white.
- 00:42:14.310 --> 00:42:16.613
- >> was it? no, no.
- 00:42:16.613 --> 00:42:17.847
- >> no no. i'm coming. it wasn't barry white. so i said, you
- 00:42:17.847 --> 00:42:20.516
- Know, last one second. i told him, i said i was the only
- 00:42:20.516 --> 00:42:23.419
- Soloist at diana ross's wedding. and i said, i may not get to
- 00:42:23.419 --> 00:42:27.423
- See you, but i want to thank you.
- 00:42:27.423 --> 00:42:29.692
- >> oh.
- 00:42:29.692 --> 00:42:30.994
- >> i got an email back from him saying, sir tom jones would
- 00:42:30.994 --> 00:42:33.563
- Like.
- 00:42:33.563 --> 00:42:34.130
- >> to see you in.
- 00:42:34.130 --> 00:42:35.164
- >> your.
- 00:42:35.164 --> 00:42:36.399
- >> wife when you come to las vegas. so when i walked into
- 00:42:36.399 --> 00:42:39.068
- The green room, his eyes went bright because i said, it's not
- 00:42:39.068 --> 00:42:42.438
- Unusual to be loved by anyone.
- 00:42:42.438 --> 00:42:44.841
- >> okay. do another little piece of that. that was awesome.
- 00:42:44.841 --> 00:42:48.611
- Wait. if you do more, we'll have to pay for it. so let's
- 00:42:48.611 --> 00:42:51.547
- Not let's not just.
- 00:42:51.547 --> 00:42:52.715
- >> a little glimpse.
- 00:42:52.715 --> 00:42:53.416
- >> of it.
- 00:42:53.416 --> 00:42:55.284
- >> but that's how i learned to sing. and i could not have
- 00:42:55.284 --> 00:42:58.221
- Found a better voice teacher. as a matter of fact, i had a
- 00:42:58.221 --> 00:43:01.557
- Voice class from one of the greatest voice teachers in
- 00:43:01.557 --> 00:43:04.193
- America, and i said, i don't know how to sing. i didn't i
- 00:43:04.193 --> 00:43:07.163
- Don't have a degree in voice. i'm just singing. can you help
- 00:43:07.163 --> 00:43:10.466
- Me? so he listened to me, gave me music to sing, and then he
- 00:43:10.466 --> 00:43:13.970
- Said these words, i don't know how you're doing it, but you're
- 00:43:13.970 --> 00:43:16.472
- Doing a lot of things right.
- 00:43:16.472 --> 00:43:18.541
- >> wow.
- 00:43:18.541 --> 00:43:19.876
- >> he said, and my father used to say to me, if you have a car
- 00:43:19.876 --> 00:43:23.146
- That's running right, don't give it a tune up. just leave
- 00:43:23.146 --> 00:43:26.315
- It alone. and he was saying, don't let teachers tinker with.
- 00:43:26.315 --> 00:43:28.785
- >> what you're doing.
- 00:43:28.785 --> 00:43:29.952
- >> so i'm 71 years old and i'm still singing using the
- 00:43:29.952 --> 00:43:34.657
- Techniques i heard from tom jones when i was a kid, and he
- 00:43:34.657 --> 00:43:39.395
- Is 80 something and still singing.
- 00:43:39.395 --> 00:43:42.732
- >> that is.
- 00:43:42.732 --> 00:43:43.733
- >> so awesome.
- 00:43:43.733 --> 00:43:44.300
- >> that's amazing.
- 00:43:44.300 --> 00:43:45.435
- >> man.
- 00:43:45.435 --> 00:43:46.002
- >> i've known you for.
- 00:43:46.002 --> 00:43:47.837
- >> in love. i'm never going to hold you. that's how i learned
- 00:43:47.837 --> 00:43:51.307
- To sing. was practicing tom jones.
- 00:43:51.307 --> 00:43:54.343
- >> that's awesome.
- 00:43:54.343 --> 00:43:55.611
- >> i've known you 40 years, and i didn't know that. that is so
- 00:43:55.611 --> 00:43:59.415
- Awesome. okay. in the last few minutes, we're talking about
- 00:43:59.415 --> 00:44:03.486
- Your project with bill and gloria gaither.
- 00:44:03.486 --> 00:44:05.855
- >> yes.
- 00:44:05.855 --> 00:44:07.223
- >> thank you for singing on this broadcast. thank you for
- 00:44:07.223 --> 00:44:10.293
- All that you've done. but just make sure everyone knows to get
- 00:44:10.293 --> 00:44:16.332
- This project. tell them. tell them what? what it is and and
- 00:44:16.332 --> 00:44:19.535
- How they you know, how they can interface with it.
- 00:44:19.535 --> 00:44:23.172
- >> yes.
- 00:44:23.172 --> 00:44:24.440
- >> they can get a symphonic tribute. to the songs of bill
- 00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:29.746
- And gloria gaither. one of the things about symphony
- 00:44:29.746 --> 00:44:33.049
- Orchestras they're going to be around.
- 00:44:33.049 --> 00:44:34.784
- >> yeah.
- 00:44:34.784 --> 00:44:36.018
- >> and kids, when they watch cartoons, they listen to hans
- 00:44:36.018 --> 00:44:39.288
- Zimmer. they're listening to all these big.
- 00:44:39.288 --> 00:44:42.058
- >> and there's. cartoons were orchestrated.
- 00:44:42.058 --> 00:44:44.594
- >> orchestrated. there is a tune to it. so you play when i
- 00:44:44.594 --> 00:44:49.031
- Play the songs of bill and gloria gaither to kids, they
- 00:44:49.031 --> 00:44:53.402
- Get it because they're listening to the orchestra,
- 00:44:53.402 --> 00:44:55.605
- Right? and so this is, to me, one of the most important
- 00:44:55.605 --> 00:45:00.343
- Albums i've ever recorded. wow. i, i think that they will be
- 00:45:00.343 --> 00:45:04.580
- Able to keep this project. first of all, one of the first
- 00:45:04.580 --> 00:45:09.051
- Projects where all of these songs, their best songs are on
- 00:45:09.051 --> 00:45:13.523
- One recording.
- 00:45:13.523 --> 00:45:15.258
- >> beautiful.
- 00:45:15.258 --> 00:45:16.392
- >> so they'll be able to get it that way as well.
- 00:45:16.392 --> 00:45:18.261
- >> what's the bill and gloria gaither song? i just i'm
- 00:45:18.261 --> 00:45:21.464
- Remembering more the words to it. something about da da da da
- 00:45:21.464 --> 00:45:25.902
- Da a newborn baby.
- 00:45:25.902 --> 00:45:27.103
- >> da da da da da da da because.
- 00:45:27.103 --> 00:45:29.405
- >> because he lives.
- 00:45:29.405 --> 00:45:31.240
- >> i do that.
- 00:45:30.439 --> 00:45:32.475
- >> what an amazing what an amazing lyric.
- 00:45:32.475 --> 00:45:36.112
- >> we were singing that song at charlie kirk's funeral the
- 00:45:36.112 --> 00:45:39.315
- Other day.
- 00:45:39.315 --> 00:45:40.216
- >> yeah, we sure were.
- 00:45:40.216 --> 00:45:41.350
- >> the memorial service.
- 00:45:41.350 --> 00:45:42.485
- >> they sent. because he lives.
- 00:45:42.485 --> 00:45:44.387
- >> because he lives. give us a little.
- 00:45:44.387 --> 00:45:46.489
- >> bit of a video of it and send it to gloria.
- 00:45:46.489 --> 00:45:50.059
- >> oh.
- 00:45:50.059 --> 00:45:51.427
- >> because he lives, i can face tomorrow. because he lives. all
- 00:45:51.427 --> 00:45:58.401
- Fear is gone. because i know he holds the future. and life is
- 00:45:58.401 --> 00:46:09.378
- Worth the living. just because he lives. how sweet to hold. a
- 00:46:09.378 --> 00:46:21.858
- New born baby. and feel the pride. and joy he brings. but
- 00:46:22.959 --> 00:46:38.174
- Greater still. the calm assurance. this child can face.
- 00:46:39.242 --> 00:46:51.320
- Uncertain days. because he lives. and then one day. i'll
- 00:46:52.388 --> 00:47:06.836
- Cross that river. i'll fight life's fight. no war with pain.
- 00:47:07.970 --> 00:47:20.883
- And then as death. gives way to victory. i'll see the lights of
- 00:47:22.084 --> 00:47:35.765
- Glory. and i'll know he lives.
- 00:47:36.399 --> 00:47:49.979
- Because he lives.
- 00:47:50.379 --> 00:47:54.317
- >> i can face tomorrow. because he lives. all fear is gone.
- 00:47:54.317 --> 00:48:10.466
- Because i know. he holds the future.
- 00:48:11.200 --> 00:48:20.576
- >> and life is worth the living. just because he lives. and life
- 00:48:20.576 --> 00:48:31.687
- Is worth the living. just because he lives.
- 00:48:32.555 --> 00:48:43.866
- >> he lives. he lives.
- 00:48:44.333 --> 00:49:00.082
- >> do you realize what that does? that song takes you back
- 00:49:01.250 --> 00:49:06.889
- To experience after experience, after experience all of your
- 00:49:06.889 --> 00:49:10.426
- Life. you. you've heard that song all of our lives.
- 00:49:10.426 --> 00:49:13.796
- >> yeah. you know, just.
- 00:49:13.796 --> 00:49:15.398
- >> what a beautiful.
- 00:49:15.398 --> 00:49:16.599
- >> thing.
- 00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:17.900
- >> for me. can i say to you when i was recording it, i'm in
- 00:49:17.900 --> 00:49:20.469
- The studio. the song that had me laid out. i mean, i was
- 00:49:20.469 --> 00:49:25.474
- Almost in prostrate singing into the mic. laid out was when
- 00:49:25.474 --> 00:49:32.314
- I was singing the name and the lyrics. she. jesus. jesus.
- 00:49:32.314 --> 00:49:44.827
- There's just something about that name. and yes, there's
- 00:49:45.895 --> 00:49:52.234
- Something about demons tremble at the sound of that name and
- 00:49:52.234 --> 00:49:58.474
- Listen when we need god, that name appropriates to us the
- 00:49:58.474 --> 00:50:07.016
- Divine presence of god.
- 00:50:07.016 --> 00:50:13.589
- >> jesus, jesus. let all heaven and earth proclaim.
- 00:50:13.589 --> 00:50:27.369
- >> kings and kingdoms will all pass away. but there's
- 00:50:28.437 --> 00:50:37.713
- Something about that name. jesus. jesus, jesus. there's
- 00:50:37.713 --> 00:50:54.463
- Just something about that name.
- 00:50:55.097 --> 00:51:06.342
- I. your jesus. jesus. like the phrase. after the rain. jesus.
- 00:51:06.342 --> 00:51:23.425
- Jesus, jesus, jesus. let all heaven and earth proclaim.
- 00:51:24.460 --> 00:51:40.209
- Kings and kingdoms will all pass away. but there's
- 00:51:41.177 --> 00:51:51.520
- Something about that name. kings and kingdoms will all
- 00:51:51.520 --> 00:52:04.233
- Pass away. but there's something. about. that name. i
- 00:52:05.301 --> 00:52:30.459
- Thank god, you know, for for what that name means to me and
- 00:52:31.627 --> 00:52:37.299
- What it means to so many others. and, and and it was it's my
- 00:52:37.299 --> 00:52:42.438
- Honor and it's my privilege to extoll that name in song. i
- 00:52:42.438 --> 00:52:49.211
- Have a dream that one day i'll be in heaven working on my
- 00:52:49.211 --> 00:52:55.451
- Mansion with my holy hammer. it's like if something's going
- 00:52:55.451 --> 00:53:00.289
- To be broke that needs to be fixed, right? and i'll hear.
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- I'll hear a knock on the door when i open it. jesus will be
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- Standing. and he'll say to me, my son, i'm about to go to some
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- Parts of my universe where they've never seen a child from
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- Earth who has been redeemed. and i want you to come go with
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- Me. and by the way, i want you to sing just before i speak.
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- >> could you just sing that song back to me again? jesus.
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- Just sing jesus.
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- >> jesus, jesus, jesus, jesus. just something about that name.
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- And so i, i so it is my honor, the people who wrote those
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- Songs, bill and gloria gaither.
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- >> beautiful.
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- >> oh they don't they have no idea how many lives have been
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- Changed singing their songs. and i, i love them so much and
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- I thank god i'm able to.
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- >> do this.
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- >> as we're going out, all the information on how you can get
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- This beautiful album, the, you know, the orchestrated version
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- Of the bill and gloria gaither. all the information's on the
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- Screen. and wendy, thank you for doing that. just do us the
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- Honor of praying for our audience before we say goodbye.
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- >> absolutely. let's pray. father in heaven, we thank you
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- So much that when we bow our heads, when we close our eyes,
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- That a clear channel is open between earth and heaven, and
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- What we say with our lips is presented tenderly before the
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- Throne of god, not because of our merit, but because of the
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- Merits of jesus. we ask, oh god, that everyone listening today
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- Will be blessed right now, in this moment, with an
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- Unmistakable sense of your holy spirit's presence. how amazing
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- That you can be with everybody at the same time through your
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- Holy spirit. and i ask that someone will be cradled right
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- Now and held by the sweet arms of jesus through the power of
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- The holy spirit. and i ask, oh god, a special blessing on bill
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- And gloria.
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- >> who thank you lord.
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- >> they've given us this, the gift of these songs that are
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- Transformational and have changed our lives. and thank
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- You for giving me the honor, the privilege of sharing these
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- Songs with the world. now, god, we live in perilous times. we
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- Live in difficult days. but we know you're still in control.
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- And we know there is coming. a day when the trumpet of god
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- Will sound. and the dead in christ will rise out of their
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- Graves first. and we who are alive will be caught up to meet
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- Them in the air. and we will forever be with jesus. teach us
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- Until that day how to grow more every day to resemble, reflect
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- And reveal your character in jesus name i pray, amen.
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- >> amen.
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- >> beautiful.
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- >> i told you this is the.
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- >> day the.
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- >> lord has made. you did.
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- >> we will rejoice and be glad in it because. wintley phipps.
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- >> by pray for you, me every night before you go to sleep,
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- Call me on the phone and pray me to sleep.
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- >> we'll see you next time.
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- >> god bless you.
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- >> goodbye.
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