Sheila Walsh sits down with Yael Eckstein, president of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, to discuss faith, resilience, and the power of saying “Hineni” (“Here I Am”) as God calls His people to bring hope and light to a hurting world.
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Praise | Yael Eckstein: Here I Am | Praise | July 7, 2026
- >> coming up tonight on praise.
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- >> we are empowered by the spirit of god. when god is with
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- Us, we can do anything. yeah, and god doesn't give us
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- Anything we can't handle. and god did send us into this world
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- In order to make it more beautiful. and our role here in
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- This world is to love, because god is a god of love.
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- >> tonight on praise from dallas humanitarian leader and
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- President of the international fellowship of christians and
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- Jews, yael eckstein. and now your host, sheila wall.
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- >> welcome. i'm so glad you're here. and you're going to be so
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- Glad that you're here. do you ever feel as if we live in a
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- World where we're being promised all sorts of things,
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- And most of them never come true? i want you to read to you
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- A psalm that i've been reading recently, and it talks about
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- The fact that god's promises are not backed up by anything
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- Other than his name. and when god's promises are backed up by
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- His name, you can stake your life on them. so this is psalm
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- 138. i give, i give you thanks, o lord, with all my heart. i
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- Will sing your praises before the gods i bow before your holy
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- Temple as i worship. i praise your name for your unfailing
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- Love and faithfulness, for your promises are backed by all the
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- Honor of your name. as soon as i pray you answer me, you
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- Encourage me by giving me strength here as your family at
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- Tbn. that's our prayer for you, that you would know that the
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- Lord's promises you can stick your life on, and that he will
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- Give you strength. and i have to tell you, i've been so
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- Looking forward to this program because my darling guest yael
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- Eckstein, you are one of my absolute heroes.
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- >> it's mutual. i couldn't love you more, sheila.
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- >> i was thinking back. barry and i were talking last night
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- About my first trip to israel, and that was the first time i
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- Got to see what what the international fellowship of
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- Christians and jews is actually doing on the ground. tell us
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- About the people that you minister to.
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- >> wow. well, i remember that trip when you were in israel.
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- That was one of the most incredible, moving, inspiring
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- Journeys that i've gone on with you around jerusalem, walking
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- Those ancient stones. and what i felt was that you got to see
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- The heart of the nation. yeah. because that's really what the
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- Fellowship touches. we're looking for the people. we're
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- Looking for the holocaust survivor who has no one there
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- To go and bring food to. we went to the elderly center
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- Where.
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- >> i love that.
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- >> and do you know what i loved about that? i think there was a
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- Gentleman there who was from ethiopia, but he was there with
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- Other people from his country. so they were able to have
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- Community together, which is so important.
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- >> that's exactly it. it's something that all of us
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- Sometimes feel like we're lacking in our lives. community
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- Fellowship, being together. and so especially for these
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- Immigrants in israel who grew up in ethiopia and speak
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- Amharic or grew up in russia and speak russian or grew up in
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- France, that they come to israel just like ezekiel. and
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- Jeremiah prophesies thousands of years ago that on one hand,
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- It's most inspiring journey of their lives, being able to live
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- The words of the prophets. but on the other hand, their lives
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- Are very real. they're still coming to israel, and they
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- Don't speak the language and they don't necessarily know
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- Anyone. and so one of the focuses of the fellowship is to
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- Find those people who are poor, who need the food, who need the
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- Clothing, who need the medicine, but not just to give it to them
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- And say, good luck with your life, but to bring them
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- Together and give them real meaning. because living in
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- Jerusalem, like, how could you not?
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- >> in my kitchen i have. you took us to the little shop
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- Where they actually sell some of the things that some of the
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- People have made. and i have it's in my kitchen. i have this
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- Little it's like a magnet, but it's, it's hand embroidered.
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- And it's a wonderful reminder for me every day to pray for
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- The peace of jerusalem. that store is amazing.
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- >> yeah, yeah.
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- >> so is it basically just made up of giving people not just a
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- Place to go, but to give them meaning with their life, to
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- Give them some purpose?
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- >> yes, that's exactly it. and, and every time i go there, i've
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- Been going there for five years or more pretty often. every
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- Time i go, i see another aspect of it. and so we find elderly
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- Who live in the area in jerusalem, immigrants who don't
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- Have family support, who are poor. we work with the
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- Government in order to identify those exact criteria, and then
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- We go to them and we say, we're going to give you the biggest
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- Gift ever. and so we bring them to this center and we actually
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- Train them. it's called in hebrew lifeline for the old.
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- And we actually train them. they could be 80 years old, but
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- They could still paint. they might be 90 years old, but they
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- Can still. so they might be old and not well, but we find what
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- They're able to do and we give them a purpose. so they sit
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- Together, speak their native language, fellowship together,
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- And they produce something that's beautiful and valuable,
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- That they feel meaning in life. and then we get to enjoy it.
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- >> i love that, i love.
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- >> that.
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- >> and you also took us to this amazing truck and told us about
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- What this truck can do. tell us a little bit about that because
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- We've got some b roll.
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- >> yeah. so that was an emergency vehicle and it was in
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- Jerusalem. and it represents kind of this need to constantly
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- Be creative in how you can keep god's word of. comfort. comfort
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- My people. god says right to be the watchmen on the walls of
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- Jerusalem. and that changes. that's like a pretty general
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- Term that god is saying, i want jerusalem to be protected. i
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- Have my hand on israel and the people, and i want you to
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- Partner with me to make sure that it's safe. and so as the
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- Threats change, the fellowship is on the ground addressing how
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- Can we meet those threats? so the truck that we went to, it
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- Came from this realization that a lot of times there are lone
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- Wolf attacks. and so you have the intelligence center that's
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- Looking into it, and maybe someone will post on facebook
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- Something, right, that they'll see, but then they have to get
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- In the emergency vehicle, get to the location where the
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- Terror attack is about to happen, and sometimes it's too
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- Late. █and donated this mobile
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- Intelligence unit.
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- >> it's pretty wild.
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- >> it's pretty wild. yes. that you have all the computers, all
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- The technology that you are looking for the next terror
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- Attack as you're driving. wow. and so as soon as you see a
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- Threat, you will get there in time.
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- >> wow. when october 11th happened, yeah, that was all
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- That was on the news across the world. unspeakable evil,
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- Unspeakable horror. sometimes i wonder if life appears to go on
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- For the rest of the world, and we kind of forget what's life
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- Like in israel right now?
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- >> wow.
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- >> well, there's one word that ever since october 7th
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- Especially, i've been calling into when i wake up at all
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- Different moments throughout the day before i go to sleep.
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- It's a biblical word, and it's a word that has given me
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- Strength and i think summarizes what's happening in israel
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- Right now. the word is hineni, and it means, here i am, and we
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- Know that abraham was the first one to say that word hineni to
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- God. and god said, let us go it in english, it actually says go.
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- But in hebrew it's two words, which means go to yourself.
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- >> oh, wow.
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- >> yeah. and the message there is that god breathed life into
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- Us, right? and so we have godliness inside of us. and god
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- Is saying, i'm speaking to you. i am inside of you. take that
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- Moment to listen, to be aware, to see what you should do next.
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- And i will speak to you because i'm inside of you. go inside to
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- Yourself. i am there and we see adam after the sin he hid, he
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- Didn't stand up and say, hey, nanny. and we see noah after
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- The flood came out and he got drunk, he didn't say hineni.
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- And so there's something about abraham, the first forefather
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- Of standing up and saying, he nini, here i am. that gave him
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- The ability to do hard things. he didn't know where he was
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- Going. he didn't know the journey god was going to take
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- Him on. he didn't know what tomorrow brought. he didn't
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- Know that god was going to provide. and yet he stood up
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- And said, he nini. and so she led this. that's what i've seen
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- In israel every single day since october 7th. the mothers
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- Whose children are in the army. my daughter is in the army
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- Getting up in the morning and saying, okay, hineni lord, what
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- Do you want from me? here i am, and sometimes the answer is
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- Just stay strong. don't lose faith. turn your heart to me.
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- I'm with you. and sometimes the answer is go out and help
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- Others. and i've seen everyone in their own way answer god and
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- Answer the calling of october 7th because it was a calling.
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- It was a reminder. if you don't protect this land physically
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- And spiritually, you won't have it. and so we've seen parents
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- Go out to reserve duty to protect the country. we've seen
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- Teachers take on children in a way that you never could
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- Imagine bringing them to bomb shelters, singing songs of
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- Faith as they do that we've seen pop artists, their own
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- Hineni. how many songs of faith have come out since october 7th
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- Of turning to god? so there's a resilience that i see in israel.
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- It's scary. it's unknown. the journey is difficult and
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- Painful. i've been to so many funerals of 18 year olds,
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- Children of friends, that may we never know any more of that
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- Pain. but no matter what happens, i've seen everyone
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- Stand up with this word of hineni here i am, and that's
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- What gives us the resilience.
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- >> you know, it's so interesting because you talked
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- About that and i follow you on social media, which i love, and
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- You talked about that on one of your social media posts. and it
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- Was so fascinating to me. it made me go and do a word study
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- In the old testament. and what i loved was you said that
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- Sometimes when hard things happen, we ask why and you said,
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- No, the question isn't why. it's. it's what? yeah. talk to
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- Us about that.
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- >> wow.
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- >> if there's one thing i've realized in my life, it's that
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- If i don't trust that god has a plan.
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- >> yeah.
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- >> i don't think i'd be able to get up in the morning.
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- >> yeah.
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- >> my father suddenly died when i was 34 years old of a heart
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- Attack, leaving me a mourning child and the responsibility to
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- Take over the fellowship, the largest philanthropic
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- Organization in israel i've lived through october 7th. i've
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- Run to bomb shelters in the middle of the night with
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- Screaming babies. i was in ukraine right before the war
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- Broke out there, providing elderly with medicine because
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- They didn't know if they would have it the next week. it's
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- Been a journey of beauty and difficulty. i've sent my 19
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- Year old daughter to the army to protect the country on the
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- Front lines, just half mile away from gaza, she's
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- Responsible for 80 soldiers.
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- >> and she's 19.
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- >> and she's 19 years old. and so there's this calling on my
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- Life that l take one step and another step and another step.
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- And when things feel unbearable, know that you could take one
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- Step at a time and god will lead. and that is the opposite
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- Of being a victim.
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- >> yeah.
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- >> and victimhood, even if it's warranted, is the biggest, the
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- Biggest curse.
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- >> i.
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- >> would say, because it makes you stuck. when you're a victim,
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- You feel like, i can't get out of this. when you look at your
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- Victim, you look like you're alone. you look at the world
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- Against you, god's against you. and so the opposite of
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- Victimhood is saying, what are you calling me to right now?
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- God.
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- >> that's such a huge message to all of us. that's what i
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- Mean. when i watched that little piece of you on social
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- Media, i was like, okay, lord, this is a word for me right now.
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- >> wow.
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- >> because, you know, i've been going through a few weeks and
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- Months of just feeling, you know, sometimes you feel
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- Spiritually dry.
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- >> oh, yeah.
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- >> you know, you pray the same prayers and you read god's word,
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- But sometimes you. but watching that little clip from you. and
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- If you don't follow yael, you shoot. it's amazing. it was
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- Just like a word from god for me in season. and the thing
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- When i started studying with abraham, when he said he nanny
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- When he said yes, he didn't even know what he was saying
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- Yes to. but it's something my mother used to say to me when i
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- Was little, you know, she had a big thing. she would say, yes,
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- Lord, every morning. and i would tease her and say, you
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- Don't know what you're saying yes to. and she said, no, but i
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- Know who i'm saying yes to.
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- >> wow.
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- >> and that changes everything. but this message of yours, yael,
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- It hits every single one of us.
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- >> sheila. i first of all, every time you share stories of
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- Your mother. i get the chills.
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- >> she was lovely. wow.
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- >> and i love that story. but but that's exactly it. like, i
- 00:13:24.924 --> 00:13:28.594
- Just shared stories that were big in my life, right? like the
- 00:13:28.594 --> 00:13:33.732
- Monumental stories that summarize like the, the main
- 00:13:33.732 --> 00:13:37.503
- Moments where i could have broken down or, or moved
- 00:13:37.503 --> 00:13:41.807
- Forward, but i say hineni every single day when i wake up in
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- The morning, i'm not a morning person either.
- 00:13:46.178 --> 00:13:48.981
- >> we are soul sisters.
- 00:13:48.981 --> 00:13:50.549
- >> yes, yes, i can stay up till two in the morning.
- 00:13:50.549 --> 00:13:53.052
- >> yes.
- 00:13:53.052 --> 00:13:54.253
- >> but when my alarm goes off, i'm like, no, lord no. who said
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- That this should start so early? and then really, sometimes i'll
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- Say, okay, hineni lord, here i am, ready to start the day and
- 00:14:01.260 --> 00:14:05.598
- I suddenly get the the strength for it. or if someone budges me
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- In line at the supermarket and i'm.
- 00:14:10.336 --> 00:14:12.438
- >> like.
- 00:14:12.438 --> 00:14:13.572
- >> you know, i have a choice right there that i could stop
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- And that i say this word hineni and trust in god, that i know
- 00:14:16.275 --> 00:14:20.379
- Who i'm saying it to, even when i don't know what i'm saying at
- 00:14:20.379 --> 00:14:24.016
- Least 20 times a day.
- 00:14:24.016 --> 00:14:25.751
- >> wow.
- 00:14:25.751 --> 00:14:26.852
- >> because it's those little things, those little things.
- 00:14:26.952 --> 00:14:29.355
- What are you calling me to right now? that's what he means.
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- And all it requires of us is taking a pause in our busy life
- 00:14:33.459 --> 00:14:38.030
- That we are bombarded from every side, right? like people
- 00:14:38.030 --> 00:14:41.734
- Need us, work needs us. social media definitely needs.
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- >> us.
- 00:14:45.905 --> 00:14:47.740
- >> but we have so much. you know, i'm a mother and a wife.
- 00:14:47.740 --> 00:14:51.310
- My laundry never ends.
- 00:14:51.310 --> 00:14:53.112
- >> i'm sure my dishes.
- 00:14:53.112 --> 00:14:55.314
- >> never ends. that what? it's so easy to not pause. and when
- 00:14:55.314 --> 00:15:00.819
- We don't pause, we don't know what god is calling us to. and
- 00:15:00.819 --> 00:15:03.956
- Then we feel overwhelmed and we feel like it's unbearable. and
- 00:15:03.956 --> 00:15:07.259
- So the only thing i tried to do within that madness, the only
- 00:15:07.259 --> 00:15:12.364
- Thing i feel like is in my control because so little is in
- 00:15:12.364 --> 00:15:15.501
- Our control. when we feel like we're just overwhelmed with
- 00:15:15.501 --> 00:15:18.337
- Everything, it's to stop, put my hands on my heart and say,
- 00:15:18.337 --> 00:15:23.709
- Hineni. and now i'm going to think about your mom and say, i
- 00:15:23.709 --> 00:15:27.780
- Don't know who. i don't know what i am saying it to, but i
- 00:15:27.780 --> 00:15:32.051
- Know who i'm saying it to.
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- >> yeah.
- 00:15:33.719 --> 00:15:34.286
- >> it's so beautiful.
- 00:15:34.286 --> 00:15:35.487
- >> if you're just joining us, i'm here with yael eckstein,
- 00:15:35.487 --> 00:15:38.123
- Who's ceo and president of the international fellowship of
- 00:15:38.123 --> 00:15:40.893
- Christians and jews, and truly one of my absolute heroes has
- 00:15:40.893 --> 00:15:45.197
- Lived through so much and yet continues to to inspire others
- 00:15:45.197 --> 00:15:50.235
- With faith and hope. and i know recently you spoke at a turning
- 00:15:50.235 --> 00:15:54.173
- Point event. how was that?
- 00:15:54.173 --> 00:15:56.342
- >> oh my gosh, it was it was one of the most inspiring
- 00:15:56.342 --> 00:16:00.646
- Moments. really? yes. okay. so exactly a year ago, i was
- 00:16:00.646 --> 00:16:05.017
- Actually with charlie kirk in arizona. we had like a five
- 00:16:05.017 --> 00:16:08.687
- Minute meeting planned, and we ended up sitting for over an
- 00:16:08.687 --> 00:16:11.390
- Hour and a half. and it was eye opening. he was telling me that
- 00:16:11.390 --> 00:16:16.228
- The things that he's facing with his, with the students and
- 00:16:16.228 --> 00:16:19.798
- All of the madness on student campuses. and it was pretty new
- 00:16:19.798 --> 00:16:23.435
- Then, like this darkness taking over. and it's kind of like
- 00:16:23.435 --> 00:16:28.073
- When we don't have our spiritual protection, it
- 00:16:28.073 --> 00:16:31.643
- Infiltrates, right? so sometimes, like it takes time
- 00:16:31.643 --> 00:16:34.179
- To develop your spiritual protection, your spiritual
- 00:16:34.179 --> 00:16:37.416
- Armor. and it was so new that that evil and darkness was
- 00:16:37.416 --> 00:16:42.087
- Penetrating into the jewish community, into the christian
- 00:16:42.087 --> 00:16:45.357
- Community. people felt scared, they felt harassed. and
- 00:16:45.357 --> 00:16:48.560
- Everyone's trying to answer why. and we know historically, when
- 00:16:48.560 --> 00:16:52.498
- There's no reasonable answer, it turns to the jews. and so
- 00:16:52.498 --> 00:16:57.536
- Instead of saying, you know, iran is spreading global
- 00:16:57.536 --> 00:17:01.907
- Extremism and terrorism, or instead it always goes back to
- 00:17:01.907 --> 00:17:05.110
- The jews. and charlie was painting a very bleak picture
- 00:17:05.110 --> 00:17:07.980
- For me. and he was right of what was happening that he was
- 00:17:07.980 --> 00:17:11.450
- Trying to stand up against. and i remember going back to israel
- 00:17:11.450 --> 00:17:14.820
- And just feeling terrified and sad and saying, lord, what what
- 00:17:14.820 --> 00:17:19.158
- Are you doing here? again, we're going back to the same
- 00:17:19.158 --> 00:17:22.394
- Place. and now it's not only jews, it's also christians. and
- 00:17:22.394 --> 00:17:25.964
- They're saying, first we're going for the saturday people,
- 00:17:25.964 --> 00:17:28.300
- Then the sunday people, first the jews, then the christians.
- 00:17:28.300 --> 00:17:31.036
- This evil, this darkness is saying, first we're going for
- 00:17:31.036 --> 00:17:34.039
- The little satan, which is israel, and then the big satan,
- 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:36.408
- Which is america. how are people not opening up their
- 00:17:36.408 --> 00:17:39.144
- Eyes? and i'm, you know, israel is right next to syria. the
- 00:17:39.144 --> 00:17:42.514
- Fellowship goes into syria to help persecuted christians. how
- 00:17:42.514 --> 00:17:46.218
- Is the world not talking about persecuted christians around
- 00:17:46.218 --> 00:17:49.154
- The world? everything just felt so confusing and dark and and
- 00:17:49.154 --> 00:17:54.159
- It was a calling on me. no matter what happens, you need
- 00:17:54.159 --> 00:17:57.396
- To continue to stand. jews and christians together. hi, my
- 00:17:57.396 --> 00:18:01.633
- Name shiva. how good and how pleasant it is when brethren
- 00:18:01.633 --> 00:18:05.871
- Dwell together.
- 00:18:05.871 --> 00:18:06.271
- >> in peace.
- 00:18:06.271 --> 00:18:07.439
- >> that was my. that was my hineni calling when i said,
- 00:18:07.439 --> 00:18:09.908
- Here i am, lord. it's okay. build brotherhood. and when i
- 00:18:09.908 --> 00:18:13.445
- Went back now to turning point, it felt so different, really.
- 00:18:13.445 --> 00:18:18.684
- It did. a year later and there were 3000 women.
- 00:18:18.684 --> 00:18:24.656
- >> wow.
- 00:18:24.656 --> 00:18:25.858
- >> who were gathered together in faith, proud christians, not
- 00:18:25.958 --> 00:18:29.661
- Apologetic. and i saw that spiritual armor was they were
- 00:18:29.661 --> 00:18:34.032
- Wearing it with pride. wow. and they were talking about having
- 00:18:34.032 --> 00:18:37.603
- Babies and families and getting married. and these
- 00:18:37.603 --> 00:18:40.873
- Judeo-christian values. sheila. i felt the love of 3000
- 00:18:40.873 --> 00:18:48.780
- Christian women who were sitting there. so i am hopeful.
- 00:18:48.780 --> 00:18:52.718
- There's a biblical verse from the scriptures. yes, there is
- 00:18:52.718 --> 00:18:57.789
- Hope for your future. and i feel like we're in that.
- 00:18:57.789 --> 00:19:00.659
- >> wow. that's amazing. did you hear other people speak or were
- 00:19:00.659 --> 00:19:04.396
- You just kind of in and out? sometimes you just don't get to
- 00:19:04.396 --> 00:19:07.399
- Hear much else.
- 00:19:07.399 --> 00:19:08.600
- >> everyone i think was was on the same page, which was
- 00:19:08.600 --> 00:19:11.336
- Amazing. so i was there beforehand. the fellowship had
- 00:19:11.336 --> 00:19:13.539
- A booth like in these events, a lot of different ministries and
- 00:19:13.539 --> 00:19:17.209
- Companies and people have booths. and we had a booth that
- 00:19:17.209 --> 00:19:19.845
- Was just based on faith. like people were able to take this
- 00:19:19.845 --> 00:19:22.981
- Up quiz of which one of the female characters are you? are
- 00:19:22.981 --> 00:19:28.720
- You esther? are you hannah? yeah. and we had a line of
- 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:32.925
- People waiting to find out what biblical character they are.
- 00:19:32.925 --> 00:19:37.062
- Wow. and to me, that says everything like they're not
- 00:19:37.062 --> 00:19:39.231
- Going shopping. they're not going to buy more things.
- 00:19:39.231 --> 00:19:42.267
- They're not looking for the physical. they want that
- 00:19:42.267 --> 00:19:45.671
- Spiritual food. they want to be like esther. they want to be
- 00:19:45.671 --> 00:19:48.674
- Like hannah. and what i've seen, sheila, and i know you can
- 00:19:48.674 --> 00:19:52.578
- Relate to this because we've spoken about it for years. god
- 00:19:52.578 --> 00:19:55.747
- Isn't looking for perfection.
- 00:19:55.747 --> 00:19:57.549
- >> no, not at all.
- 00:19:57.549 --> 00:19:58.383
- >> he's looking for us.
- 00:19:58.383 --> 00:19:59.718
- >> yeah.
- 00:19:59.718 --> 00:20:00.819
- >> none of the people god called were perfect. moses had
- 00:20:00.919 --> 00:20:04.122
- A lisp. esther was young. mary was young. we see all these
- 00:20:04.122 --> 00:20:11.597
- People who didn't feel like they were ready, right? none of
- 00:20:11.597 --> 00:20:14.533
- These biblical characters felt like they were ready. and what
- 00:20:14.533 --> 00:20:17.369
- God said, both in the new testament and the old testament,
- 00:20:17.369 --> 00:20:20.239
- Is you don't have to be ready. you just have to be mine.
- 00:20:20.239 --> 00:20:23.942
- >> wow.
- 00:20:23.942 --> 00:20:25.143
- >> you just have to listen to me and hear your calling. and i
- 00:20:25.244 --> 00:20:27.946
- Will use you in ways you can never imagine.
- 00:20:27.946 --> 00:20:30.148
- >> that's why the whole hineni thing is so real to me at the
- 00:20:30.148 --> 00:20:33.885
- Moment, because it's like i used to try and be perfect. i
- 00:20:33.885 --> 00:20:37.155
- Tried to pursue perfection for years and fell apart until i
- 00:20:37.155 --> 00:20:41.526
- Realized i don't have to pursue perfection. you know, in christ
- 00:20:41.526 --> 00:20:44.763
- And our father god, there is perfection. we just get to say
- 00:20:44.763 --> 00:20:47.933
- Yes.
- 00:20:47.933 --> 00:20:48.567
- >> we just get to say yes.
- 00:20:48.567 --> 00:20:50.102
- >> one of the things i saw you do just the other day, and it
- 00:20:50.102 --> 00:20:53.538
- Was all to do with because the landscape has changed so much
- 00:20:53.538 --> 00:20:56.708
- Since october the 7th. and i saw them like rebuilding, like
- 00:20:56.708 --> 00:21:01.213
- Kindergarten.
- 00:21:01.213 --> 00:21:01.713
- >> yeah.
- 00:21:01.713 --> 00:21:02.180
- >> that's huge.
- 00:21:02.180 --> 00:21:03.081
- >> that was such an emotional moment.
- 00:21:03.081 --> 00:21:04.850
- >> i can only imagine.
- 00:21:04.850 --> 00:21:06.084
- >> oh my gosh. so on october 7th, there were so many
- 00:21:06.084 --> 00:21:10.989
- Terrifying moments. but i would say one of the most terrifying
- 00:21:10.989 --> 00:21:14.559
- Moments was seeing terrorists go into homes and schools and
- 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:21.033
- Kidnap children and kill children. we saw those babies
- 00:21:21.033 --> 00:21:25.771
- Brothers, right? those little red headed boys, three years
- 00:21:25.771 --> 00:21:28.006
- Old and one year old, and their mothers arms, and those
- 00:21:28.006 --> 00:21:32.477
- Kibbutzim which are just towns, little towns, those small towns
- 00:21:32.477 --> 00:21:36.148
- Were ravaged by the terrorists. they lit every building on fire,
- 00:21:36.148 --> 00:21:39.418
- So whoever was inside would die. they tied people together,
- 00:21:39.418 --> 00:21:42.654
- Things that i don't even want to talk about because it's hard
- 00:21:42.654 --> 00:21:45.924
- To imagine we shouldn't even have those pictures in our
- 00:21:45.924 --> 00:21:49.461
- Minds. and i went back to the town that was most ravaged,
- 00:21:49.461 --> 00:21:55.801
- Where 1 in 4 people from this town were either killed or
- 00:21:55.801 --> 00:21:58.670
- Kidnaped. and i saw life rising again. i felt like i was
- 00:21:58.670 --> 00:22:05.744
- Looking at a seed that sprouted. but that seed is israel. that
- 00:22:05.744 --> 00:22:11.450
- Seed is the people of israel. and i went into this
- 00:22:11.450 --> 00:22:15.053
- Kindergarten that's in a bomb shelter just for protection
- 00:22:15.053 --> 00:22:17.923
- Still. and there were more than 50 children there in three
- 00:22:17.923 --> 00:22:22.961
- Different rooms, all different ages. and it's a kindergarten
- 00:22:22.961 --> 00:22:26.198
- That the fellowship renovated because they came to us around
- 00:22:26.198 --> 00:22:29.801
- Three months before that and said, we want to go back, we
- 00:22:29.801 --> 00:22:33.839
- Want to rebuild. we can't let darkness win. and how are we
- 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:36.475
- Able to bring light right now to go back and show our
- 00:22:36.475 --> 00:22:39.878
- Resilience, to show life that's sprouting again, but we have
- 00:22:39.878 --> 00:22:43.582
- Nowhere to send the children. we need to work, we need to
- 00:22:43.582 --> 00:22:46.585
- Rebuild, we need to do things. and the kindergarten was
- 00:22:46.585 --> 00:22:48.920
- Destroyed by a hand-held grenade. the. the kindergarten.
- 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.924
- >> wow.
- 00:22:52.924 --> 00:22:54.092
- >> and so the fellowship went in and we said, christians and
- 00:22:54.192 --> 00:22:55.861
- Jews are here to rebuild israel, to make sure that the light of
- 00:22:55.861 --> 00:22:59.498
- Israel doesn't go out. so to hold those babies and to. see
- 00:22:59.498 --> 00:23:03.335
- Those children. and these are children who are conceived and
- 00:23:03.335 --> 00:23:07.973
- Born after october 7th.
- 00:23:07.973 --> 00:23:09.708
- >> so that's the only world they know. yes, but that's one
- 00:23:09.708 --> 00:23:12.677
- Of the things i love about the fellowship. how much how hard
- 00:23:12.677 --> 00:23:16.014
- You work to make life normal. and i remember you saying
- 00:23:16.014 --> 00:23:20.652
- Something to me when we were in jerusalem, and you said
- 00:23:20.652 --> 00:23:22.888
- Something like, they tried to kill us. they failed. let's eat.
- 00:23:22.888 --> 00:23:25.991
- There's something about the jewish spirit that is just. but
- 00:23:25.991 --> 00:23:29.628
- If you look back down through history, it's had to be that
- 00:23:29.628 --> 00:23:32.497
- Way.
- 00:23:32.497 --> 00:23:33.665
- >> you don't have a choice. you don't have a choice. and it
- 00:23:33.765 --> 00:23:36.134
- Goes back to that place of hineni. i won't be a victim. i
- 00:23:36.134 --> 00:23:39.171
- Refuse to be a victim. and that's the story of the jewish
- 00:23:39.171 --> 00:23:42.274
- People. and my grandfather. you know, of course, as i talk
- 00:23:42.274 --> 00:23:46.611
- About, i think of my own family. my grandfather was born in
- 00:23:46.611 --> 00:23:49.714
- Germany. his entire family was killed in auschwitz. his core
- 00:23:49.714 --> 00:23:54.753
- Family were the only ones to survive. and one cousin, he had
- 00:23:54.753 --> 00:23:58.390
- Five aunts and uncles that, you know, were all killed in
- 00:23:58.390 --> 00:24:02.661
- Auschwitz. all of their kids, both sets of his grandparents.
- 00:24:02.661 --> 00:24:07.032
- And he moved to america with his father and, you know, their
- 00:24:07.032 --> 00:24:11.269
- Core family. and they rebuilt. and i wasn't raised in
- 00:24:11.269 --> 00:24:15.307
- Victimhood. i was raised to remember, but not to be victims.
- 00:24:15.307 --> 00:24:19.945
- And that's the most important thing for me in teaching my
- 00:24:19.945 --> 00:24:23.215
- Kids. we are empowered by the spirit of god. when god is with
- 00:24:23.215 --> 00:24:30.088
- Us, we can do anything. yeah. and god doesn't give us
- 00:24:30.088 --> 00:24:33.692
- Anything we can't handle. and god did send us into this world
- 00:24:33.692 --> 00:24:37.128
- In order to make it more beautiful. and our role here in
- 00:24:37.128 --> 00:24:40.565
- This world is to love, because god is a god of love, that if
- 00:24:40.565 --> 00:24:45.203
- They aren't spreading love, our light has to be even stronger.
- 00:24:45.203 --> 00:24:50.242
- >> i came across a photograph online and it made me smile
- 00:24:50.242 --> 00:24:53.211
- Because it was of my old boss, pat robertson, who i adored.
- 00:24:53.211 --> 00:24:56.715
- Worked with him for five years. with your dad? yes. tell. tell
- 00:24:56.715 --> 00:25:00.151
- Us about your dad.
- 00:25:00.151 --> 00:25:01.319
- >> oh my gosh. wow. well, pat robertson, he is a legend.
- 00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:07.859
- Absolutely. yeah. i was on the set. i was on the 700 club with
- 00:25:07.859 --> 00:25:11.129
- Him a few times. and with gordon they are. that family is
- 00:25:11.129 --> 00:25:14.699
- A blessing.
- 00:25:14.699 --> 00:25:15.433
- >> yes.
- 00:25:15.433 --> 00:25:16.568
- >> just like the crouches. god uses some people to do very,
- 00:25:16.668 --> 00:25:19.371
- Very, very big things. so my father was a young rabbi. it
- 00:25:19.371 --> 00:25:23.942
- Was around 1978 and he was sent to skokie. now, some people,
- 00:25:23.942 --> 00:25:29.481
- I'm not going to say their age might remember when there was
- 00:25:29.481 --> 00:25:34.185
- Going to be a neo-nazi march in skokie in 1978.
- 00:25:34.185 --> 00:25:37.022
- >> wow.
- 00:25:37.022 --> 00:25:38.223
- >> they wanted to show free speech. so my father, a young
- 00:25:38.223 --> 00:25:42.093
- Rabbi, went and tried to gather support against the neo-nazi
- 00:25:42.093 --> 00:25:46.031
- March. and it was a big community of holocaust
- 00:25:46.031 --> 00:25:48.533
- Survivors. and suddenly something he never anticipated
- 00:25:48.533 --> 00:25:52.871
- Happened. christian leaders came and said, can we stand
- 00:25:52.871 --> 00:25:56.541
- With you against this.
- 00:25:56.541 --> 00:25:57.509
- >> nazi march?
- 00:25:57.509 --> 00:25:58.743
- >> and my father was in shock. he said, christians, the only
- 00:25:58.743 --> 00:26:02.380
- Thing the jewish community knows about christians is what
- 00:26:02.380 --> 00:26:04.883
- We've read in the history books. and they said, no, no, no, we
- 00:26:04.883 --> 00:26:09.421
- Have repented. we are christians who study the
- 00:26:09.421 --> 00:26:12.657
- Scriptures and actually believe god's word. we don't try to
- 00:26:12.657 --> 00:26:15.226
- Change it. we don't try to create darkness from it. we
- 00:26:15.226 --> 00:26:18.063
- Only want to spread light in brotherhood and we stand with
- 00:26:18.063 --> 00:26:20.966
- You. wow. and that was how the fellowship started. it was
- 00:26:20.966 --> 00:26:24.569
- Right when the soviet union fell and it was the christians.
- 00:26:24.569 --> 00:26:28.506
- Pat robertson was one of the first ones to come to my father
- 00:26:28.506 --> 00:26:32.310
- And say, let's bring those jews home. wow. this is biblical
- 00:26:32.310 --> 00:26:35.780
- Prophecy coming to fruition from the biblical land of the
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- North. he said, hineni.
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- >> i know, i know, pat, absolutely loved your dad. talk
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- To us about aliyah. what is that? for those who maybe don't
- 00:26:44.456 --> 00:26:47.959
- Understand that.
- 00:26:47.959 --> 00:26:48.994
- >> term, well, aliyah is a hebrew word that literally
- 00:26:49.094 --> 00:26:51.930
- Means to go up and it's referring to a spiritual state,
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- And it's talking about bringing jews from all over the world,
- 00:26:56.201 --> 00:26:59.804
- All four corners, just like jeremiah and isaiah. and
- 00:26:59.804 --> 00:27:04.142
- Ezekiel prophesized the ingathering of the nations, the
- 00:27:04.142 --> 00:27:08.113
- Ingathering of the jewish people. and so aliyah is the
- 00:27:08.113 --> 00:27:12.050
- Word that describes the ingathering of the jewish
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- People, bringing the jewish people home to israel to settle
- 00:27:14.552 --> 00:27:19.057
- The land, to be there. and so the fellowship, it's one of our
- 00:27:19.057 --> 00:27:24.295
- Main priorities. we open up the scriptures when we say, what
- 00:27:24.295 --> 00:27:27.932
- Projects do you have? i always say, i open up the scriptures
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- And i see, well, what does god say? god says to feed the
- 00:27:30.669 --> 00:27:34.039
- Hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the poor, comfort the
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- People by building bomb shelters and things like that,
- 00:27:36.941 --> 00:27:39.210
- And bring the jewish people home. this is part of god's
- 00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:42.681
- Plan. and so christians and jews together have brought home
- 00:27:42.681 --> 00:27:47.018
- Nearly a million people.
- 00:27:47.018 --> 00:27:49.521
- >> wow.
- 00:27:49.521 --> 00:27:50.689
- >> from russia, from ukraine, from across the former soviet
- 00:27:50.789 --> 00:27:53.858
- Union, from arab countries that i can't talk about, from france,
- 00:27:53.858 --> 00:27:57.462
- From south america. the fellowship has aliyah flights
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- Every single day because this is what god calls us to.
- 00:28:01.733 --> 00:28:06.104
- >> so for us, just.
- 00:28:06.104 --> 00:28:07.839
- >> sitting here, yeah, you know, somebody who's sitting in
- 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:12.177
- Wyoming watching this or in florida, how can we support the
- 00:28:12.177 --> 00:28:17.582
- Fellowship?
- 00:28:17.582 --> 00:28:18.750
- >> wow. well, what i've seen is that it's about our hearts,
- 00:28:18.850 --> 00:28:22.987
- Right? coming together. the first thing god says is pray
- 00:28:22.987 --> 00:28:26.558
- For the peace of jerusalem. and he actually makes promises of
- 00:28:26.558 --> 00:28:30.595
- What happens when you pray for the peace of jerusalem. your
- 00:28:30.595 --> 00:28:33.264
- Family's blessed. we see in the new testament that christians
- 00:28:33.264 --> 00:28:36.301
- Must remember that they're grafted onto the rich olive
- 00:28:36.301 --> 00:28:38.870
- Tree of israel, that when you pray for the people of israel,
- 00:28:38.870 --> 00:28:42.907
- You're praying for your community. and let me say that
- 00:28:42.907 --> 00:28:47.045
- The people of israel are praying for christians around
- 00:28:47.045 --> 00:28:49.147
- The world as well. and so with the fellowship does is we take
- 00:28:49.147 --> 00:28:52.150
- That prayer and we transform it into action, into all those
- 00:28:52.150 --> 00:28:56.154
- Things that god tells us to do in a tangible way. and so by
- 00:28:56.154 --> 00:29:00.091
- Partnering with the fellowship, whatever it is, $25 for a food
- 00:29:00.091 --> 00:29:04.028
- Box, $350 to bring a person home to israel and aliyah.
- 00:29:04.028 --> 00:29:09.501
- >> $350, $350. it's not much to come home.
- 00:29:09.501 --> 00:29:12.270
- >> and it's generational.
- 00:29:12.270 --> 00:29:14.139
- >> wow.
- 00:29:14.139 --> 00:29:15.206
- >> i've seen people that the fellowship have brought to
- 00:29:15.306 --> 00:29:17.342
- Israel. their children are born than in israel, and $13,000 for
- 00:29:17.342 --> 00:29:23.148
- A bomb shelter. i mean, that keeps people safe forever. that
- 00:29:23.148 --> 00:29:28.119
- From that small donation, that widow's mite, that to the very,
- 00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:33.591
- Very huge donations of $13,000 for a bomb shelter, the money
- 00:29:33.591 --> 00:29:39.297
- That's donated goes directly to the people on the ground in
- 00:29:39.297 --> 00:29:44.369
- Israel.
- 00:29:44.369 --> 00:29:45.570
- >> and that's one of the things i love most about my trip, you
- 00:29:45.670 --> 00:29:47.605
- Know, because sometimes, you know, you'll hear about
- 00:29:47.605 --> 00:29:49.674
- Something and think, that sounds really wonderful. i hope
- 00:29:49.674 --> 00:29:52.377
- That really works quite as well as it looks like it might. but
- 00:29:52.377 --> 00:29:55.413
- To actually be there and to actually see these people and
- 00:29:55.413 --> 00:29:58.383
- Meet some of these people and through interpreters, hear some
- 00:29:58.383 --> 00:30:00.552
- Of their stories of, i mean, it's so the heart of god that
- 00:30:00.552 --> 00:30:05.256
- You would find those who are broken. i was thinking of
- 00:30:05.256 --> 00:30:08.393
- There's a word in the new testament where it talks about
- 00:30:08.393 --> 00:30:13.131
- Aletheia when jesus is talking to a samaritan woman, and he
- 00:30:13.131 --> 00:30:15.767
- Said, true worship is worship in spirit and in truth. and
- 00:30:15.767 --> 00:30:18.503
- That word truth in the greek aletheia means with nothing
- 00:30:18.503 --> 00:30:21.306
- Hidden. and one of the things i love about the work of the
- 00:30:21.306 --> 00:30:24.676
- Fellowship is you go where things were dark, and you shine
- 00:30:24.676 --> 00:30:28.313
- A light, and you're there and you're present. and the fact
- 00:30:28.313 --> 00:30:31.416
- That we get to join you in that, what a holy privilege that is.
- 00:30:31.416 --> 00:30:35.119
- >> wow. i am held up by the prayers of millions of people.
- 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:41.960
- And that, i really believe, is what gives me the strength and
- 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.063
- The wisdom and the protection to go to these dark places. the
- 00:30:45.063 --> 00:30:48.766
- Whole identity of the fellowship is to be boots on
- 00:30:48.766 --> 00:30:53.538
- The ground. yeah, i want to go and comfort the holocaust
- 00:30:53.538 --> 00:30:56.708
- Survivor and tell her christians love her. i want to
- 00:30:56.708 --> 00:30:59.510
- Go to the school and rebuild the kindergarten and tell those
- 00:30:59.510 --> 00:31:03.681
- Children, christians are praying over your life. we are
- 00:31:03.681 --> 00:31:06.451
- Boots on the ground, and then we're able to see those dark
- 00:31:06.451 --> 00:31:11.089
- Places that maybe were forgotten by others. and we're
- 00:31:11.089 --> 00:31:13.992
- Able to build projects in order to fill that darkness with
- 00:31:13.992 --> 00:31:17.595
- Light. to the extent that the israeli government comes to the
- 00:31:17.595 --> 00:31:21.566
- Fellowship and says, build us projects to be able to help
- 00:31:21.566 --> 00:31:24.836
- Because you build projects better than we could. we've
- 00:31:24.836 --> 00:31:27.672
- Built the national food project of how to create criteria to
- 00:31:27.672 --> 00:31:31.643
- Feed the hungry, how to find them in every city across
- 00:31:31.643 --> 00:31:34.512
- Israel. and the government took it over. wow. we've created
- 00:31:34.512 --> 00:31:37.348
- Projects after october 7th. get the first responders the
- 00:31:37.348 --> 00:31:41.019
- Emergency gear that they need, and the government took it over.
- 00:31:41.019 --> 00:31:43.955
- We created projects for the internally displaced people.
- 00:31:43.955 --> 00:31:46.925
- When their homes get destroyed by a missile, how to, within 24
- 00:31:46.925 --> 00:31:50.795
- Hours be there to provide aid. and the government took it over.
- 00:31:50.795 --> 00:31:54.332
- And so i, i see that it's a calling, a calling on the
- 00:31:54.332 --> 00:31:58.303
- Fellowship and a calling on my life. go to those dark places.
- 00:31:58.303 --> 00:32:01.272
- Don't turn your head. don't turn around. don't pretend like
- 00:32:01.272 --> 00:32:04.042
- They don't exist. don't be scared of them. go there and
- 00:32:04.042 --> 00:32:07.645
- Bring light.
- 00:32:07.645 --> 00:32:08.780
- >> i remember you saying, because i was talking to you
- 00:32:08.780 --> 00:32:11.015
- When i was over in israel about if something happens, like, say,
- 00:32:11.015 --> 00:32:14.018
- There's a bomb that explodes in new york or something,
- 00:32:14.018 --> 00:32:16.287
- Everybody scatters. but you were saying in israel it's
- 00:32:16.287 --> 00:32:19.357
- Different. everybody moves toward the crisis because
- 00:32:19.357 --> 00:32:23.094
- Everybody wants to help. yeah. that's amazing.
- 00:32:23.094 --> 00:32:26.331
- >> that's what you do for family. if, god forbid, i knew
- 00:32:26.331 --> 00:32:30.335
- That my child was in that attack, i wouldn't be running
- 00:32:30.335 --> 00:32:33.905
- The other way. no, i would be writing, running straight into
- 00:32:33.905 --> 00:32:37.508
- The danger. and that's how all of us feel for each other. in
- 00:32:37.508 --> 00:32:41.479
- Israel. we really feel like it's family. you know, i raised
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- Four kids in israel, praise god. and i remember when my kids
- 00:32:44.449 --> 00:32:48.386
- Were little and i'd go to the park, my kid would fall, you
- 00:32:48.386 --> 00:32:52.357
- Know, like a little toddler falls. i'd have five parents
- 00:32:52.357 --> 00:32:55.560
- There before i even could stand up, helping them get up. and i
- 00:32:55.560 --> 00:32:59.063
- Raised my kids. not don't talk to strangers. if you need
- 00:32:59.063 --> 00:33:03.468
- Anything, you ask the person next to you. wow. my 14 year
- 00:33:03.468 --> 00:33:06.804
- Old went camping last year and with with some friends of hers,
- 00:33:06.804 --> 00:33:11.409
- And i called her, you know, to check in on them. in israel,
- 00:33:11.409 --> 00:33:14.612
- That's like normal for 14 year olds to go camping, taking the
- 00:33:14.612 --> 00:33:17.815
- Bus. and she said, oh yeah, there's a family camping next
- 00:33:17.815 --> 00:33:21.185
- To us. they gave us watermelon and popcorn and it was a little
- 00:33:21.185 --> 00:33:25.123
- Bit cold. so they gave us their extra blanket. and then i spoke
- 00:33:25.123 --> 00:33:28.192
- To the mom and she's like, oh, of course they're like my kids
- 00:33:28.192 --> 00:33:31.929
- In israel.
- 00:33:31.929 --> 00:33:32.296
- >> i love.
- 00:33:32.296 --> 00:33:33.431
- >> that we're family. and so when there's a crisis or a
- 00:33:33.431 --> 00:33:36.000
- Terror attack, which unfortunately happens almost
- 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.969
- Every day, even if people don't hear about it, we're all
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- Running towards.
- 00:33:40.905 --> 00:33:42.640
- >> you know, it's interesting. there's something about our
- 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.709
- Culture in the western world. like i think we've got so used
- 00:33:44.709 --> 00:33:48.046
- To social media and to kind of scrolling and being spectators
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- Of life. and it's actually left a lot of people feeling very
- 00:33:51.649 --> 00:33:55.286
- Empty and very lonely. but that was something i was so aware of.
- 00:33:55.286 --> 00:33:59.157
- I was only in israel for three weeks, but i felt this sense of
- 00:33:59.157 --> 00:34:02.960
- Like, i remember when we would break to have lunch, it would
- 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.329
- Be moms that came out of their homes and spread food out on
- 00:34:05.329 --> 00:34:09.067
- Tables. and it wasn't us going to mcdonald's. it was it was.
- 00:34:09.067 --> 00:34:12.070
- So there was such a sense of, we belong to one another. we're
- 00:34:12.070 --> 00:34:15.440
- Here for one another. that has to be one of the great
- 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.710
- Strengths of, of the jewish people.
- 00:34:19.710 --> 00:34:22.246
- >> yeah. and i think that's what faith gives you. god says
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- You're not here for yourself. you're here to fix the world.
- 00:34:25.249 --> 00:34:28.152
- You're here to bring light. you're here to see the other.
- 00:34:28.152 --> 00:34:31.622
- You're love your neighbor like yourself. spread love, spread
- 00:34:31.622 --> 00:34:34.826
- Hope. feed the hungry, clothe the naked, everything. that
- 00:34:34.826 --> 00:34:37.328
- Could be counterintuitive because when you don't have
- 00:34:37.328 --> 00:34:39.630
- Faith, it's survival of the fittest, right? the strongest.
- 00:34:39.630 --> 00:34:42.767
- I worked for this. it's mine. faith says no, leave your leave
- 00:34:42.767 --> 00:34:46.504
- Your corner of your field. give your tithes right. give your
- 00:34:46.504 --> 00:34:51.109
- What is the word for tithes in hebrew? and i know barry's
- 00:34:51.109 --> 00:34:54.345
- Going to learn that word and he's going to be like, sheila,
- 00:34:54.345 --> 00:34:58.282
- I know hebrew.
- 00:34:58.282 --> 00:34:59.650
- >> i'm sure you're right.
- 00:34:59.650 --> 00:35:00.918
- >> i love teaching your husband hebrew, but but god says it's
- 00:35:00.918 --> 00:35:04.856
- Not just yours. yeah. what you have is to share with others.
- 00:35:04.856 --> 00:35:08.359
- And so you see that in the christian church as well. yeah.
- 00:35:08.359 --> 00:35:11.162
- Whenever i go to churches, i feel that people are there to
- 00:35:11.162 --> 00:35:14.132
- Support one another. that single mom, that they're
- 00:35:14.132 --> 00:35:17.001
- Watching her kids or the elderly that they go and visit.
- 00:35:17.001 --> 00:35:21.305
- The more society has faith, the more society will take care of
- 00:35:21.305 --> 00:35:25.243
- One another.
- 00:35:25.243 --> 00:35:26.477
- >> it's so true. if you're just joining us, wonderful to have a
- 00:35:26.577 --> 00:35:30.348
- Conversation with my darling friend yael eckstein, who's ceo
- 00:35:30.348 --> 00:35:33.651
- And president of the fellowship, international fellowship of
- 00:35:33.651 --> 00:35:36.787
- Christians and jews, making such a huge difference in the
- 00:35:36.787 --> 00:35:39.690
- World, i wondered if you would paint a picture for us of what
- 00:35:39.690 --> 00:35:43.327
- It's like the first time you go to a holocaust survivor. when
- 00:35:43.327 --> 00:35:46.497
- Somebody finds himself in a place of despair and darkness,
- 00:35:46.497 --> 00:35:50.134
- And the difference you've seen happen in their life.
- 00:35:50.134 --> 00:35:53.371
- >> yeah. well.
- 00:35:53.371 --> 00:35:55.540
- >> is there anyone that comes to mind?
- 00:35:55.540 --> 00:35:56.974
- >> there are so many that come to mind. that's why i'm like,
- 00:35:56.974 --> 00:36:00.044
- Okay, there's one woman, the first woman, first holocaust
- 00:36:00.044 --> 00:36:02.346
- Survivor i ever visited in ukraine. actually, her name was
- 00:36:02.346 --> 00:36:05.950
- Olga. and my father and i went to ukraine. it was the first
- 00:36:05.950 --> 00:36:11.155
- Time i went with my father to ukraine, first time i was ever
- 00:36:11.155 --> 00:36:14.926
- There, because we have ministry across the former soviet union
- 00:36:14.926 --> 00:36:17.128
- To help the jewish people in holocaust survivor, holocaust
- 00:36:17.128 --> 00:36:20.364
- Survivors and orphans with the basics. so we flew to ukraine.
- 00:36:20.364 --> 00:36:24.335
- My father said, we're going to visit this woman, olga. i said,
- 00:36:24.335 --> 00:36:27.538
- Okay, we landed in kyiv. there's a lot of people in kyiv,
- 00:36:27.538 --> 00:36:30.608
- Its main city, but we start driving out of kyiv. i was like,
- 00:36:30.608 --> 00:36:34.579
- Where are we going, abba? he's like, there's a woman, olga,
- 00:36:34.579 --> 00:36:37.481
- Who needs our help. she needs food and she needs heat, a
- 00:36:37.481 --> 00:36:40.484
- Blanket. we heard about her. she's a holocaust survivor and
- 00:36:40.484 --> 00:36:43.020
- She has no one. so we're going. i said, okay, three hours later,
- 00:36:43.020 --> 00:36:46.624
- We're still driving. we're driving these side roads
- 00:36:46.624 --> 00:36:51.295
- Covered in snow and ice, and we're just driving. i said,
- 00:36:51.295 --> 00:36:54.599
- Abba, we're going on this way for one.
- 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.667
- >> person.
- 00:36:56.667 --> 00:36:57.468
- >> abba, abba.
- 00:36:57.468 --> 00:36:58.102
- >> of course i love that.
- 00:36:58.102 --> 00:36:59.537
- >> yeah. i said, we're going all this way for one person. he
- 00:36:59.537 --> 00:37:02.673
- Said, of course, of course we're going this way for one
- 00:37:02.673 --> 00:37:05.509
- Person, one forgotten holocaust survivor. of course we are. so
- 00:37:05.509 --> 00:37:08.312
- Finally we arrived in this little village, totally
- 00:37:08.312 --> 00:37:11.849
- Dilapidated homes that were made of stones and roofs that
- 00:37:11.849 --> 00:37:14.385
- Were falling apart. and we got to olga's house and the snow
- 00:37:14.385 --> 00:37:17.588
- Was on her front lawn and there were no footsteps. i knew she
- 00:37:17.588 --> 00:37:20.858
- Hasn't been visited for a long time, and i remember the first
- 00:37:20.858 --> 00:37:24.328
- Time walking in and seeing olga. she was around 93 years old and
- 00:37:24.328 --> 00:37:27.865
- She had a few jars of pickled beets and a few old potatoes.
- 00:37:27.865 --> 00:37:34.205
- That was it, because the only food she had was what she grew
- 00:37:34.205 --> 00:37:37.208
- In the summer. wow, there's no supermarkets there. and she's
- 00:37:37.208 --> 00:37:40.011
- Poor. and i went to her and i held her hand and my father was
- 00:37:40.011 --> 00:37:43.748
- On the other side. and he said, olga, what's your story? how
- 00:37:43.748 --> 00:37:46.617
- Are you here in the middle of nowhere in this dilapidated
- 00:37:46.617 --> 00:37:49.520
- Home? she said, i'm an orphan, 93 years old, and she still
- 00:37:49.520 --> 00:37:54.258
- Calls herself an orphan. she said, all my family was killed
- 00:37:54.258 --> 00:37:57.461
- In the holocaust. i was hiding in the forest, which is the
- 00:37:57.461 --> 00:38:00.698
- Only reason why i survived. and sometimes i wonder why god
- 00:38:00.698 --> 00:38:04.268
- Saved me. it's such a painful life. but now i know why.
- 00:38:04.268 --> 00:38:07.505
- Because you came to visit me and tell me that christians are
- 00:38:07.505 --> 00:38:11.142
- Praying for me. wow. this is the moment that god kept me
- 00:38:11.142 --> 00:38:14.211
- Alive. for now i can die happy.
- 00:38:14.211 --> 00:38:16.113
- >> my gosh.
- 00:38:16.113 --> 00:38:17.348
- >> and i was crying, sheila. i was bawling and my father took
- 00:38:17.348 --> 00:38:22.286
- Off his gloves and put them on her hand and she said, no,
- 00:38:22.286 --> 00:38:25.256
- You're going to be cold. he said, don't worry, i'll get
- 00:38:25.256 --> 00:38:28.159
- Another pair. and it was when i realized that people are in so
- 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:32.697
- Much pain. sheila.
- 00:38:32.697 --> 00:38:33.831
- >> yeah.
- 00:38:33.831 --> 00:38:34.965
- >> so much pain. she's still going through. remembering her
- 00:38:35.066 --> 00:38:37.368
- Parents and siblings being killed in the holocaust alone,
- 00:38:37.368 --> 00:38:40.971
- To have the ability to go and minister to her, to comfort her,
- 00:38:40.971 --> 00:38:46.010
- To give her the gift of life in her body and spirit. that was
- 00:38:46.010 --> 00:38:50.581
- The first time since then. thank god i have dozens of
- 00:38:50.581 --> 00:38:55.052
- Stories in the middle of the war going to holocaust
- 00:38:55.052 --> 00:38:57.555
- Survivors house. one woman, zelda. we heard that she.
- 00:38:57.555 --> 00:39:01.859
- During the iraq war, we heard that she didn't have her helper
- 00:39:01.859 --> 00:39:05.096
- Come visit her. she's bedridden. she's a holocaust survivor. and
- 00:39:05.096 --> 00:39:08.699
- So she. we were told she might not have food because she
- 00:39:08.699 --> 00:39:11.602
- Doesn't have children. she doesn't have anyone to care for
- 00:39:11.602 --> 00:39:14.405
- Her. so literally rocket, a rocket fell around two blocks
- 00:39:14.405 --> 00:39:17.375
- Away from her. and so her windows were were broken and
- 00:39:17.375 --> 00:39:22.780
- Cracked. and i'm driving through what feels like an
- 00:39:22.780 --> 00:39:24.915
- Apocalypse. i finally get to her home. i go in and she was
- 00:39:24.915 --> 00:39:27.918
- On her way to a bomb shelter and fell. and so she didn't
- 00:39:27.918 --> 00:39:31.756
- Leave her bed for i don't even know how long. and i came with
- 00:39:31.756 --> 00:39:36.460
- Food and i told her, this is from christian. she said, how
- 00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:40.030
- Did you find me? i said, god directs us exactly where we're
- 00:39:40.030 --> 00:39:43.267
- Needed. and i opened up her fridge in her cupboard. there
- 00:39:43.267 --> 00:39:46.036
- Was no food. i don't know if she would have survived another
- 00:39:46.036 --> 00:39:49.373
- Day if we wouldn't have been there. and she said, i survived
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- The holocaust. and now, in my final years, jews and
- 00:39:52.343 --> 00:39:57.314
- Christians are coming together to feed the hungry. the future
- 00:39:57.314 --> 00:40:01.318
- Looks hopeful.
- 00:40:01.318 --> 00:40:02.420
- >> oh wow. wow. that's a word for all of us. because
- 00:40:02.420 --> 00:40:07.558
- Sometimes we think that's over there and that doesn't impact
- 00:40:07.558 --> 00:40:10.761
- Me. but scripture is so clear, so clear about praying for the
- 00:40:10.761 --> 00:40:15.299
- Peace of jerusalem and also the heart of god to rescue those
- 00:40:15.299 --> 00:40:19.270
- Who are in prison, who are struggling, who are suffering,
- 00:40:19.270 --> 00:40:22.306
- Who are starving. that's what being like jesus is.
- 00:40:22.306 --> 00:40:26.110
- >> it's the orphan and the widow.
- 00:40:26.110 --> 00:40:27.511
- >> yeah, absolutely. and it's so interesting because growing
- 00:40:27.511 --> 00:40:30.748
- Up, i grew up, my mom was widowed at 33. and so we lived
- 00:40:30.748 --> 00:40:35.486
- On a very restricted budget. but her thing was we don't have
- 00:40:35.486 --> 00:40:40.024
- A lot of money. but but god has everything. so we would pray
- 00:40:40.024 --> 00:40:43.427
- For just, you know, if it was like pants for my brother for
- 00:40:43.427 --> 00:40:46.497
- School or something, we would pray and know that god would
- 00:40:46.497 --> 00:40:49.500
- Provide. wow. sometimes i think our muchness is does a
- 00:40:49.500 --> 00:40:54.205
- Disservice because we forget how dependent we are on the
- 00:40:54.205 --> 00:40:57.441
- Lord.
- 00:40:57.441 --> 00:40:58.542
- >> yeah, that's exactly what it's one of my favorite. the
- 00:40:58.642 --> 00:41:01.512
- Feast of the sukkot, where you go out into the huts. right.
- 00:41:01.512 --> 00:41:06.450
- And that's the message that when when the israelites were
- 00:41:06.450 --> 00:41:09.753
- Traveling in the desert for 40 years, we had the cloud of
- 00:41:09.753 --> 00:41:13.290
- Glory we had that was directing us where to go, what to do. and
- 00:41:13.290 --> 00:41:17.294
- We had all these miracles. and then the israelites went into
- 00:41:17.294 --> 00:41:20.231
- The land of israel, and they suddenly had to fend for
- 00:41:20.231 --> 00:41:22.433
- Themselves. they had to fight the wars. they had to protect
- 00:41:22.433 --> 00:41:25.436
- Their people. they had to grow food in order to eat it. and
- 00:41:25.436 --> 00:41:28.439
- What the festival of booths reminds me is we are always
- 00:41:28.439 --> 00:41:32.943
- Protected by that cloud of glory, whether we see it or not.
- 00:41:32.943 --> 00:41:35.980
- And we can go out. we literally go out into the booth and sleep
- 00:41:35.980 --> 00:41:39.550
- In there and eat in there and move into there for seven days,
- 00:41:39.550 --> 00:41:42.586
- Because it's a reminder you think your house is giving you
- 00:41:42.586 --> 00:41:45.523
- Protection. you think your bank account is giving you
- 00:41:45.523 --> 00:41:47.558
- Protection. you think your job is giving you protection. you
- 00:41:47.558 --> 00:41:50.394
- Think you don't have that, and therefore you don't have
- 00:41:50.394 --> 00:41:52.596
- Protection. no.
- 00:41:52.596 --> 00:41:53.931
- >> wow.
- 00:41:53.931 --> 00:41:54.965
- >> it's the lord who's providing us with all of this.
- 00:41:55.065 --> 00:41:56.567
- And in our abundance, we forgotten how blessed we are,
- 00:41:56.567 --> 00:42:00.070
- And we've even forgotten sometimes the lord and how he
- 00:42:00.070 --> 00:42:04.041
- Moves within it.
- 00:42:04.041 --> 00:42:05.442
- >> wow.
- 00:42:05.442 --> 00:42:06.610
- >> let me ask you an unfair question. but it's you. so i
- 00:42:06.610 --> 00:42:09.780
- Feel like.
- 00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:10.548
- >> i definitely.
- 00:42:10.548 --> 00:42:11.749
- >> what do you do on a day where you just feel like, lord,
- 00:42:11.749 --> 00:42:14.752
- I'm not sure i can do this anymore.
- 00:42:14.752 --> 00:42:16.754
- >> i have those days. sheila. do i have those days? you know,
- 00:42:16.754 --> 00:42:22.026
- There's something about. feeling like everybody relies
- 00:42:22.026 --> 00:42:27.164
- On you and needs you. that's very heavy. yeah, every mother
- 00:42:27.164 --> 00:42:31.702
- Could relate to that. every father could relate to that.
- 00:42:31.702 --> 00:42:35.739
- Many young people can relate to that. there's so much needed
- 00:42:35.739 --> 00:42:39.043
- And demanded of us. yeah. for young people, i see with my
- 00:42:39.043 --> 00:42:42.179
- Kids at school and social and friends and everything they
- 00:42:42.179 --> 00:42:44.815
- Need to do for me, my kids need me. my husband needs me, my
- 00:42:44.815 --> 00:42:48.385
- Work needs me. the poor people need me. yeah. and so i always
- 00:42:48.385 --> 00:42:53.824
- Tried to distinguish, and this is my hineni moment. what do i
- 00:42:53.824 --> 00:42:57.995
- Need to do? and what can i say? okay, i know that i am called
- 00:42:57.995 --> 00:43:03.834
- There, but it's going to have to wait because i can't take
- 00:43:03.834 --> 00:43:06.804
- Care of anyone if i don't take care of myself.
- 00:43:06.804 --> 00:43:09.573
- >> that's very important.
- 00:43:09.573 --> 00:43:10.841
- >> and what i do is i go out to my garden, i have a vegetable
- 00:43:10.841 --> 00:43:14.578
- Garden, and i love my vegetable garden. that's what makes me
- 00:43:14.578 --> 00:43:16.780
- Happy. and i take my dogs and i go for a walk. that's what
- 00:43:16.780 --> 00:43:20.651
- Makes me happy. and i call up my friends and i go for a
- 00:43:20.651 --> 00:43:23.721
- Coffee date. that's what makes me happy. or i drive to the
- 00:43:23.721 --> 00:43:26.790
- Beach and journal. that's what makes me happy because i tried
- 00:43:26.790 --> 00:43:29.693
- For a lot of years, sheila, to hold everything. yeah. and me
- 00:43:29.693 --> 00:43:35.065
- Know to to be godly is to be selfless. and i learned that is
- 00:43:35.065 --> 00:43:39.803
- Not true. god calls us to love our neighbors like ourselves.
- 00:43:39.803 --> 00:43:44.108
- Yeah, we could only love our neighbor as much as we love
- 00:43:44.108 --> 00:43:47.745
- Ourselves. we could only help the other as much as we help
- 00:43:47.745 --> 00:43:50.581
- Ourselves. god isn't saying be nothing. god is saying, you are
- 00:43:50.581 --> 00:43:54.752
- A daughter of the king. take care of yourself, celebrate
- 00:43:54.752 --> 00:43:59.256
- Yourself. and it took me a few breakdowns to learn that and
- 00:43:59.256 --> 00:44:04.595
- Big and little ways. but i've come to a place that i realize
- 00:44:04.595 --> 00:44:10.034
- I am worthy of caring for myself because i am god's child.
- 00:44:10.034 --> 00:44:16.874
- >> absolutely.
- 00:44:16.874 --> 00:44:18.108
- >> and that doesn't mean that i could drop my responsibilities.
- 00:44:18.208 --> 00:44:20.844
- My children really do need me. my husband really does need me.
- 00:44:20.844 --> 00:44:24.481
- My work really does need me, but it means carving out time
- 00:44:24.481 --> 00:44:28.752
- That i'm able to take for myself so that i can go and
- 00:44:28.752 --> 00:44:32.990
- Give to others.
- 00:44:32.990 --> 00:44:34.525
- >> talk to me about your daughter because i can't
- 00:44:34.525 --> 00:44:37.027
- Imagine what it was like. i mean, i'm trying to think of my
- 00:44:37.027 --> 00:44:39.697
- Son. 18. yeah. and i felt like he was still a child in so many
- 00:44:39.697 --> 00:44:43.634
- Ways. but suddenly your daughter is in the army. yeah.
- 00:44:43.634 --> 00:44:47.504
- How has that changed her? what's that experience been
- 00:44:47.504 --> 00:44:50.708
- Like for her?
- 00:44:50.708 --> 00:44:51.742
- >> yeah.
- 00:44:51.742 --> 00:44:52.910
- >> i grew up in america. she was, you know, when i was 18. i
- 00:44:53.010 --> 00:44:56.480
- Hope there's no pictures of what i was doing when i was 18.
- 00:44:56.480 --> 00:45:00.851
- I was in college. i was going to college. this is fun and
- 00:45:00.851 --> 00:45:04.021
- Parties. and the only thing i was thinking about was, how can
- 00:45:04.021 --> 00:45:06.957
- I party and wake up in the morning for my class and to see
- 00:45:06.957 --> 00:45:11.595
- My daughter, who what she's thinking about is how can i
- 00:45:11.595 --> 00:45:15.132
- Keep my soldier safe? how can i protect the borders? how can i
- 00:45:15.132 --> 00:45:19.436
- Do everything i can to make this country better? how can i
- 00:45:19.436 --> 00:45:23.474
- Communicate with people who are very different than me in a
- 00:45:23.474 --> 00:45:25.609
- Respectful way? because it doesn't matter if they're like
- 00:45:25.609 --> 00:45:28.479
- Me or not. we are all in the army together, and anyone who's
- 00:45:28.479 --> 00:45:31.582
- Been in the army knows you are in the most diverse units.
- 00:45:31.582 --> 00:45:35.686
- People who have different backgrounds, different
- 00:45:35.686 --> 00:45:38.589
- Religions, different values. you have to come together and
- 00:45:38.589 --> 00:45:41.325
- See the other and say, this is my brother. my only job is to
- 00:45:41.325 --> 00:45:44.728
- Protect them and keep them safe. wow. and so to see my daughter,
- 00:45:44.728 --> 00:45:47.931
- It was it actually happened before she went to the army,
- 00:45:47.931 --> 00:45:50.734
- Even it was when she decided she.
- 00:45:50.734 --> 00:45:52.636
- >> didn't she volunteer? yeah, yeah.
- 00:45:52.636 --> 00:45:54.071
- >> she used to volunteer on the ambulance. yeah. and then she
- 00:45:54.071 --> 00:45:57.307
- Was able to do two years of national service and
- 00:45:57.307 --> 00:46:00.177
- Volunteering instead of going to active military duty. and i
- 00:46:00.177 --> 00:46:03.781
- Remember after october 7th looking at her and saying,
- 00:46:03.781 --> 00:46:07.017
- Maira, are you considering doing volunteering instead of
- 00:46:07.017 --> 00:46:09.720
- The active military duty? it was a week that we went to
- 00:46:09.720 --> 00:46:13.490
- Three funerals of 18 year olds who were killed in service, and
- 00:46:13.490 --> 00:46:18.896
- She looked at me with tears in her eyes. she said, mommy, now
- 00:46:18.896 --> 00:46:22.166
- I'm even more sure than ever that i need to go. wow. the
- 00:46:22.166 --> 00:46:25.369
- Future of this country relies on me. after 2000 years, we've
- 00:46:25.369 --> 00:46:29.439
- Been brought back to israel during the holocaust. no one
- 00:46:29.439 --> 00:46:32.743
- Was there to protect grandpa. in all the past generations.
- 00:46:32.743 --> 00:46:37.514
- When everyone would go against the jews, there was no one to
- 00:46:37.514 --> 00:46:39.850
- Protect them. i have the ability to protect this land of
- 00:46:39.850 --> 00:46:43.453
- God and the people. how could i say no? wow, wow. and so i've
- 00:46:43.453 --> 00:46:48.025
- Seen her take on responsibilities that are too
- 00:46:48.025 --> 00:46:52.296
- Big for anyone to hold, let alone a 17 year old. but with
- 00:46:52.296 --> 00:46:56.667
- Faith and with grace. and that it actually has made her
- 00:46:56.667 --> 00:47:01.338
- Stronger instead of knocking her down.
- 00:47:01.338 --> 00:47:03.907
- >> i remember reading a story online and it was during
- 00:47:03.907 --> 00:47:09.313
- Everything that was happening during the holocaust, a little
- 00:47:09.313 --> 00:47:12.916
- Village close to one of the camps, and at one point it
- 00:47:12.916 --> 00:47:16.153
- Looked like it was snowing. and then they realized, no, it was
- 00:47:16.153 --> 00:47:21.525
- Ash from the camps. yeah. and the person who had written this
- 00:47:21.525 --> 00:47:25.863
- Article said, we need to wake up and realize it's still
- 00:47:25.863 --> 00:47:29.099
- Snowing. when you see the kind of rise of anti-semitism around
- 00:47:29.099 --> 00:47:32.502
- The world, it's like there's the battlefront in israel, but
- 00:47:32.502 --> 00:47:34.938
- Then there's like a second battlefront of what's happening
- 00:47:34.938 --> 00:47:37.741
- Around the world. how do you speak to that?
- 00:47:37.741 --> 00:47:41.345
- >> there's a physical battlefield and there's a
- 00:47:41.345 --> 00:47:44.948
- Spiritual battlefield. the physical battlefield is israel,
- 00:47:44.948 --> 00:47:48.518
- And it's very connected to the spiritual battlefield. that's
- 00:47:48.518 --> 00:47:53.223
- Anti-semitism. we talk about the holocaust, and we've kind
- 00:47:53.223 --> 00:47:55.525
- Of become desensitized to it. right? the number 6 million, if
- 00:47:55.525 --> 00:48:00.464
- We would take a moment of silence for every one of the 6
- 00:48:00.464 --> 00:48:03.500
- Million people who were killed, we would be in silence for 11
- 00:48:03.500 --> 00:48:06.536
- Years.
- 00:48:06.536 --> 00:48:07.638
- >> wow. put some perspective.
- 00:48:07.638 --> 00:48:09.806
- >> put some perspective. the jewish people before the
- 00:48:09.806 --> 00:48:12.709
- Holocaust were 16.6 million jewish people around the world.
- 00:48:12.709 --> 00:48:18.048
- Today, we're not even 16 million jews. we still haven't
- 00:48:18.048 --> 00:48:23.854
- Repopulated to the number of jews that there were before the
- 00:48:23.854 --> 00:48:26.723
- Holocaust.
- 00:48:26.723 --> 00:48:27.090
- >> wow.
- 00:48:27.090 --> 00:48:28.325
- >> and now the anti-semitism is rearing its anti its head again
- 00:48:28.425 --> 00:48:31.762
- Of hatred and animosity. and i believe that it's spiritual.
- 00:48:31.762 --> 00:48:37.100
- It's a spiritual war that's been raging since the
- 00:48:37.100 --> 00:48:41.805
- Scriptures. the story of haman, that's a spiritual war. amalek,
- 00:48:41.805 --> 00:48:46.843
- That's a spiritual war. you go throughout the scriptures and
- 00:48:46.843 --> 00:48:49.913
- You see there's a spiritual war that leads to physical wars,
- 00:48:49.913 --> 00:48:54.151
- Not the other way around. and so when i see anti-semitism
- 00:48:54.151 --> 00:48:59.790
- Rising, and of course, we know about the corrie ten boom
- 00:48:59.790 --> 00:49:03.427
- During the holocaust, these heroes, pastor dietrich
- 00:49:03.427 --> 00:49:07.030
- Bonhoeffer, these heroes, these christian heroes, i believe
- 00:49:07.030 --> 00:49:10.033
- That they were prophets. yeah, because we know the names of
- 00:49:10.033 --> 00:49:15.305
- The righteous gentiles during the holocaust who risked their
- 00:49:15.305 --> 00:49:18.542
- Own lives to do what's right, to save the jewish people.
- 00:49:18.542 --> 00:49:22.112
- Today, the reason why we don't know the names of every single
- 00:49:22.112 --> 00:49:25.449
- One is because there are probably 300 million christians
- 00:49:25.449 --> 00:49:27.884
- Around the world who are praying for the peace of
- 00:49:27.884 --> 00:49:30.821
- Jerusalem and who are willing to act in that boldness. but
- 00:49:30.821 --> 00:49:33.991
- What happens then is the spiritual war is put on the
- 00:49:33.991 --> 00:49:38.295
- Christian community as well, because you're doing what's
- 00:49:38.295 --> 00:49:40.297
- Right. yeah. suddenly you're holding that light. you're
- 00:49:40.297 --> 00:49:42.666
- Standing in god's presence. and spiritual warfare hates the
- 00:49:42.666 --> 00:49:47.337
- Spirit of god. and so now it's not just anti-semitism. it's
- 00:49:47.337 --> 00:49:51.675
- Against the jews and it's against the christians. yeah.
- 00:49:51.675 --> 00:49:54.678
- And so i believe the antidote for that, the medicine for that,
- 00:49:54.678 --> 00:49:58.949
- The healing tincture for that is standing together.
- 00:49:58.949 --> 00:50:02.853
- >> absolutely.
- 00:50:02.853 --> 00:50:03.887
- >> if they're going to hate, we're going to love.
- 00:50:03.887 --> 00:50:06.089
- >> you know, it's so interesting when you study the
- 00:50:06.089 --> 00:50:08.258
- Book of esther, and it's actually the only book where
- 00:50:08.258 --> 00:50:11.094
- God's name is never mentioned, but he's, he's all over it. and
- 00:50:11.094 --> 00:50:14.097
- You know, when haman and his plans to destroy the thing i
- 00:50:14.097 --> 00:50:17.234
- Love is that god was still working in the darkness, you
- 00:50:17.234 --> 00:50:20.137
- Know, when the king couldn't sleep. and so he called and
- 00:50:20.137 --> 00:50:22.606
- Found out and uncovered everything. yes. that to me is
- 00:50:22.606 --> 00:50:26.243
- What gives me hope and courage at the moment. that no matter
- 00:50:26.243 --> 00:50:29.146
- What people may say and no matter what they're out to do,
- 00:50:29.146 --> 00:50:32.015
- That god is still on the move. god is still on the throne.
- 00:50:32.015 --> 00:50:35.252
- Amen, amen.
- 00:50:35.252 --> 00:50:37.020
- >> sometimes when he's most hidden is when he's most
- 00:50:37.020 --> 00:50:40.223
- Present, right? i feel that that suddenly i look back. i'm
- 00:50:40.223 --> 00:50:43.493
- Like, oh, you were there. thank you.
- 00:50:43.493 --> 00:50:47.497
- >> yes.
- 00:50:47.497 --> 00:50:48.732
- >> how can we pray? i want to ask you two questions. how can
- 00:50:48.732 --> 00:50:52.269
- We pray for the fellowship? but then i want to ask, how can we
- 00:50:52.269 --> 00:50:56.139
- Pray for you and your family?
- 00:50:56.139 --> 00:50:57.374
- >> thank you.
- 00:50:57.374 --> 00:50:58.508
- >> so you can pray for the fellowship that we will have
- 00:50:58.508 --> 00:51:01.244
- The resources to meet the needs. yeah. one of the hardest things,
- 00:51:01.244 --> 00:51:05.782
- Sheila, is getting phone calls from children who are hungry,
- 00:51:05.782 --> 00:51:08.685
- Parents who are asking for baby formula. and i have to say, we
- 00:51:08.685 --> 00:51:12.656
- Don't have. but as soon as we get a donation, i promise we'll
- 00:51:12.656 --> 00:51:16.226
- We'll we'll give it. we had two, two soup kitchens that were hit
- 00:51:16.226 --> 00:51:21.198
- By rockets in the past year, one in kiryat shmona in the
- 00:51:21.198 --> 00:51:24.901
- North and one in dimona in the south.
- 00:51:24.901 --> 00:51:26.870
- >> and you were feeding a lot of people through.
- 00:51:26.870 --> 00:51:29.606
- >> those, a lot of people. and we made sure as a principle,
- 00:51:29.606 --> 00:51:32.809
- The next day we were providing even more meals than the day
- 00:51:32.809 --> 00:51:35.679
- Before, because we will not let darkness win. but the needs
- 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:39.316
- I've never seen so much needs. you talk about aliyah bringing
- 00:51:39.316 --> 00:51:42.919
- The jewish people home. we get calls every day of jews across
- 00:51:42.919 --> 00:51:46.623
- The world who want to come home to israel. as soon as we get a
- 00:51:46.623 --> 00:51:50.827
- Donation, we bring them home. wow. but that alone is a huge
- 00:51:50.827 --> 00:51:55.132
- Area. then you have security bomb shelters that schools need.
- 00:51:55.132 --> 00:51:58.869
- Bomb shelters. all places of worship need bomb shelters,
- 00:51:58.869 --> 00:52:03.073
- Hospitals that need to be protected. the fellowship just
- 00:52:03.073 --> 00:52:05.609
- Built a whole protected unit floor at a hospital in nazareth
- 00:52:05.609 --> 00:52:09.946
- To serve the christian community in nazareth, we have
- 00:52:09.946 --> 00:52:13.550
- Christians in syria, persecuted christians that the fellowship
- 00:52:13.550 --> 00:52:16.353
- Is dedicated to be there for them. the needs are enormous
- 00:52:16.353 --> 00:52:19.990
- And for every yes, there's a no because budget just can't hold
- 00:52:19.990 --> 00:52:24.661
- It. that i pray, i pray, and i know you join me in praying
- 00:52:24.661 --> 00:52:28.932
- That god will open up people's hearts.
- 00:52:28.932 --> 00:52:31.101
- >> absolutely.
- 00:52:31.101 --> 00:52:32.302
- >> to be able to do the little they can, because i've seen $25
- 00:52:32.402 --> 00:52:35.205
- And $25 and $25 and $25 ends up feeding a whole community of
- 00:52:35.205 --> 00:52:41.278
- Elderly who need us, or building a bomb shelter, or
- 00:52:41.278 --> 00:52:45.182
- Creating a new soup kitchen. so for the fellowship, really that
- 00:52:45.182 --> 00:52:49.619
- That will have the resources to meet the needs and that our
- 00:52:49.619 --> 00:52:53.456
- Staff will be protected and strong.
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- >> and how do we pray for you? yeah.
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- >> sheila, i'm here today because of the prayers of you,
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- My tibn family, and everyone watching. i feel them, i feel
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- Them. i wouldn't be able to do this without them. i wouldn't
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- Be able to really. and so continue to pray for clarity,
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- For strength, for physical protection, for spiritual
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- Protection, for guidance. that when i say hineni, lord, i will
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- Be able to hear clearly what he's saying.
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- >> yeah.
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- >> our tbn family, as you know, we love the fellowship. matt
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- And lori are so behind the fellowship and praying, and i'd
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- Love to be able to tell you i've been there and i've seen
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- With my own eyes it makes a difference. and we can all do
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- Something. you know, i think of the story when christ was on
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- The hillside with all those thousands of people, and the
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- Disciples were like, well, there's no way we can feed them
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- All. all that jesus asked was, what do you have? what do you
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- Have? god has given each one of us resources. and i know from
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- The word of god, and i know you know this, that when we stand
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- With jerusalem, when we join shoulder to shoulder with
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- Jerusalem and with the jewish community around the world and
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- Say, lord, let my little be enough in your hands. because
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- Remember, when you give it to jesus, he blesses it and breaks
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- It, and he feeds his people are not enough. in his hands is
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- More than enough. let me just pray for you. father, i want to
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- Thank you so much for for yael, for the fellowship, for the
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- Work that they are doing day in and day out, 24 hours a day,
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- Exhausting work. and yet constantly, every day saying,
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- Yes, lord, what now, lord, i pray that that would be true
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- For every single one of us, that we would wake up every day
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- With a yes lord in our spirit, and together we would see you
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- Begin to bring peace and hope and to flood this planet where
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- So much evil exists. we want to do it because we are your
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- Children, and we pray for your blessing and your protection on
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- Your l, on our family and on the fellowship. and we ask it
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- In jesus name. all i can say is, what a joy it is to have you
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- Here. we love, love, love you and we here at tbn stand with
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- You. we are your family.
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- >> i love you so much and you should be blessed. thank you
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- Strength.
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- >> behalf of matt and lori. all of us here at tbn, your tbn
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- Family. we love you and we'll see you next time.
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