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Praise | Zac & Jennie Allen: Gather 25 | Praise | February 4, 2025
- Coming up
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- Tonight on praise...
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- The darkness is not scary to god.
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- The darkness is redeemable.
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- The darkness is the story that god has always moved
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- In from genesis one.
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- So when it is dark and i'm not acting like it
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- Isn't, and these countries that we're
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- Going to show so much hope, the reason that
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- Revival is happening is because we're desperate.
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- ♪♪
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- Tonight on praise from dallas, faith leaders,
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- Church visionaries and devoted husband and wife,
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- Zac and jennie allen. and now your hosts,
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- Matt and laurie crouch.
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- You know what?
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- I used to start thinking gather 25 was a long ways
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- Away, and then i realized it's 2025, gather 25 is
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- Around the corner.
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- Here we are.
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- Good lord.
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- The last time i even remember sitting and
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- Thinking about this, i felt, man, it's so far
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- Away that we got all this time to plan.
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- And it is upon us.
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- It's upon us.
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- Gather 25, we're going to get into that.
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- Jennie and zac, for one hour. you and i, all of
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- Us have something in common.
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- A beautiful old timer's, with the lord.
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- Now, bill bright,
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- Campus crusade for christ now referred to as crew,
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- I produced his tv show for nine years and bill
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- And vonette were just dear to us.
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- They were like grandparents to laurie and
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- I, and every time i was around him, i got a
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- Sense i was a part of a grand winning team and
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- There's this hope that would fill the room.
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- There's hope nationally
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- It feels like in the united states of america
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- That's permeating, and there's just the
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- Timing for this seems like it's just been
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- Divinely inspired.
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- Like momentum.
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- There's a momentum, a wind in the sail
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- Kind of thing.
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- So let's talk about hope.
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- Let's talk about, let's goodness, let's talk
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- About, we are 2025 now.
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- You guys, we want to mention a big event
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- That's coming to trinity.
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- It's the if gathering or gather 25.
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- We're going to be broadcasting it in
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- February and march and we are going to
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- Talk more about it.
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- A lot of the information will be on the screen,
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- But start with just kind of the sense that god's
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- In this thing.
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- The timing's right, there's enthusiasm there.
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- Hope.
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- How do you want to open this up?
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- Well, let me just start by saying what it is,
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- Just so there's context.
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- We are going live from the united states of
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- America and moving to all six continents.
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- We're still looking for somebody in antarctica,
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- But six continents.
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- We have seven events telling the stories of
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- What god is doing on earth and we're going to
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- Hear the best teaching from each continent, have
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- Cultural worship from each continent.
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- And here's what's going to happen is everyone's
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- Going to be leaning forward and realize
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- Exactly what bill bright said.
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- We are a part of a ginormous, beautiful,
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- Healthy, robust, reviving church.
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- It is so fun to be on this team.
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- I have gone all over the world and everywhere i go
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- I get within one minute, two minutes, i get hugs
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- From my african brothers and sisters because we're
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- Just a big family, and it is such an encouraging
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- Thing to remember that the church isn't dying.
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- The church is thriving and we're seeing that all
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- Over the place right now.
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- I see it and i know we've come out of a season
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- Of discouragement.
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- I've been discouraged and so many of us have.
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- I remember when i sit down with my dad,
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- He's so afraid.
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- He's so afraid that he's going to leave the world
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- Not in a better state for his grandkids and his
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- Great grandkids.
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- He thinks about that all the time and i sometimes
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- Just grab him and i'm like, dad, no. god is
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- Still moving and he is doing amazing things
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- Right now.
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- We are certainly looking at a special decade.
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- We've all seen just a momentum, the church even
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- In the us recently, and we're looking at a moment
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- Where resources and technology and all these
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- Things we're able to do things we've never been
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- Able to do before.
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- So i'm incredibly hopeful.
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- I'm excited that the church for 25 hours isn't
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- Going to fight.
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- We're just going to come together. love on each other.
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- And worship god and celebrate what he's doing
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- Because there is so, so much to celebrate.
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- I love the scriptures that we were even talking
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- About yesterday.
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- You're going to have to help me, on praise
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- Yesterday about his kingdom came as a seed.
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- It says this kingdom is everlasting.
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- It's growing.
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- What were some of those scriptures?
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- Well, out of daniel, out of daniel, the dream,
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- Nebuchadnezzar's dream and about the head of
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- Gold and chest of silver.
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- And then you get on down to the feet of the iron,
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- Of iron and clay and then a rock crushes that and
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- It's an everlasting.
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- And that rock builds to its a mountain that
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- Never ends,
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- So it's never ends.
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- It's a prophet, jesus's story.
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- So we went from 12 disciples to 2 billion
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- Christians. 2.5 billion, and gorowing.
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- Here we are, and growing, and we lose sight of
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- That sometimes. we do.
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- And our common kind of let's say heritage of
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- Knowing bill bright, he was infectious.
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- He was.
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- And every time we were creating a broadcast with
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- Him or for him, and i did a lot of producing for
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- Him, it was always you felt better about knowing
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- What the information that you got because there is
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- A big winning team and we're a part of it.
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- I mean, everyone likes to win.
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- I know.
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- And there's going to be so much winning, they're
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- Going to get tired of winning.
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- And that is ultimately kind of the through line
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- Of what we're going to be chatting about.
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- But again, at some point you have to, there is a
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- Time when testimonies need to be told and there
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- Are voices that we're gathering,
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- Gather 25, and tbn is going to play a role in kind of,
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- You're doing this big 24 hour event.
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- We're going to grab and summarize and deploy, and
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- We're going to get to see all of this again.
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- How it's going to be seen is all on the screen and
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- There'll be spots running.
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- But we're going to kick it off with four hours
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- Live right here on tbn on february 8th at
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- Eight o'clock eastern.
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- So the praise program on february 28th this year
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- Will be coming from a big local church
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- In dallas. watermark church.
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- What do you kind of attribute this overall
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- Sense of hope?
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- I mean, we saw an election. maybe you noticed
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- That in news. it happened.
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- It's been in the news.
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- Yeah, it already happened.
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- And so there's been this bit of an election thing,
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- But at some point that's one little sphere.
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- The church is a global entity with assets that dwarfs
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- The united states of america's economy.
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- It really is a thing.
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- And if we could just gather together, but this
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- Is a special time. why don't you preach to us
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- For a little bit about it?
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- Yeah, so first of all, there are
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- Certainly struggles.
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- I mean i'm seeing it in my own life and my
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- Kids' lives.
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- Discouragement, loneliness, anxiety.
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- I mean this is a part of the story as well.
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- So i don't want to miss that.
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- We have been in a mental health crisis
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- Coming out of covid.
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- People feel completely overwhelmed.
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- And so that is so real and i don't want to act
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- Like this is a fake or naive hope.
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- This is a hope that i'm actually seeing move
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- Into the darkness.
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- The darkness is not scary to god.
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- The darkness is redeemable.
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- The darkness is the story that god has always moved
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- In from genesis one.
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- When you think about the very first verse, it's
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- Like the dark,
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- He moved into the darkness. the light broke
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- Through the darkness.
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- So when it is dark, and i'm not acting like it
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- Isn't. it's dark, and these countries that we're
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- Going to show so much hope, we're going to show
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- Revival happening.
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- The reason in all of these places, including
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- My own life, including the ministries i'm
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- Involved in here, the reason that revival is
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- Happening is because we're desperate and
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- There's something about desperation that is so
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- Pleasing to god.
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- And so i just have learned not to fear it.
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- I think about my little buddy that came up to me
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- Recently on a college campus.
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- We were on a secular campus and he said,
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- Jennie, i want you to know two years ago i confessed
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- My sin when you asked me to and i was
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- Dealing drugs.
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- And i stopped.
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- I didn't even go back to my campus.
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- And now two years later i'm going into ministry
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- And i'm like, that kid had everything.
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- He had money, he had prestige on his campus,
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- He had everything, but he was so unhappy.
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- And i think that's so many of us.
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- I think so many of us, it's like why am
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- I not happy?
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- I feel like i have all the things i need or
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- Maybe i'm going through something difficult, but
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- I've seen other people go through difficult things
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- And they're finding joy still.
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- Where is that for me?
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- Why does god not feel close to me?
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- And i would just say that is a precious place to be.
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- In that place of wanting every person jesus
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- Touched when he was walking through the
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- Streets, he was looking for the people that
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- Needed him, that needed healing, that needed hope.
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- So before-- we will, we talk about all the hope.
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- And i mean i have chills thinking about it because
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- I feel like i'm this girl and we are this couple
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- That god has allowed to sit on the front row of
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- Everything god is doing right now.
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- We just had this view and i bet bill felt the same
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- Way, and i know y'all feel the same way.
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- We just get this view and this perspective.
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- And so i was a cheerleader in college.
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- No, no, i know.
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- It's shocking.
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- Big reveal.
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- Shocking.
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- So i feel like that's my role right now on earth
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- Is just to be the girl that says, hey guys, it
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- Is not despairing.
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- It is dark, but it is not despairing.
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- And when it is dark, god loves to bring light and
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- He's doing it.
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- We are going to show in these 25 hours, we are
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- Going to show revival happening on every continent.
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- That's beautiful.
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- And it is usually happening with young
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- People, which is a miracle.
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- And it's so funny because i've been with these
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- Leaders that are experiencing this and
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- I've been on college campuses that i'm
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- Experiencing revival and they're coming to jesus,
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- They're getting baptized, they're giving their
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- Lives away to god.
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- They're truly surrendering their lives.
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- And then i go over to liberia and he's like,
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- Me too.
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- Same, same.
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- Everybody's really experiencing this moment.
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- And so i don't think the world knows.
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- I think just like my dad, i think so many people
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- Listening right now, they don't know.
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- They're listening to me going, i don't believe it.
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- And we're going to show it because they're
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- Worried about their great grandkids and they're
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- Worried about the future
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- They're leaving in the church and for their kids.
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- And so there is a lot to be hopeful for, but i
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- Think we forget-- and let's be fair, the news inundates
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- Us with so much negativity, we miss the
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- Good stories.
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- You can always tell a podcaster, right?
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- Because they say listeners,
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- They're actually viewers. watchers.
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- But i love what you talk about.
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- God always worked with nothing.
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- He loved nothing.
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- He loved emptiness.
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- He loved void.
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- He loved darkness
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- Because then he could make something amazing
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- Out of it.
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- And i think sharing the testimonies and to be
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- Able to see something that we've felt was lost
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- Because you kind of hear on the news and things
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- Like how the church is disintegrating here in
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- America and the pastors kind of falling away.
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- I think that's just all a big setup for something
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- Amazing that god is going to do because it's not
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- About any of us.
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- It's about god and showing these testimonies.
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- I love to hear what god is doing around the world
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- Because it does bring hope.
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- It does give you that little oomph to go, yeah,
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- There is a great big family of god all over
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- The world.
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- God is moving around the world.
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- It's not something that we can look out our door
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- And just see what our neighborhood looks like.
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- There might be despair and stuff in there, but
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- If we get our eyes a different perspective
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- That brings hope, that brings life, that
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- Changes, then what i feel like that changes then
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- What i go and do in my neighborhood
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- And your community.
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- And that grows.
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- And i think god loves that.
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- God loves that despair.
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- God loves that emptiness, that dissatisfaction.
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- He takes all of that and fills us up.
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- That's what he wants to do.
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- ♪♪
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- Imagine
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- If the 2.5 billion followers of jesus on the
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- Earth right now joined together for one global
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- Gathering with one goal, to go and make disciples
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- Of all people.
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- What you're imagining is a sacred meeting unlike
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- Any other in history.
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- What you're imagining is gather 25. from every
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- Continent and culture,
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- Jesus followers are coming together in the
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- Year 2025 for prayer, worship, repentance and
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- Commissioning. connected live from africa and
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- Australia, from europe and asia, from north and
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- South america an unprecedented gathering
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- Across every time zone,
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- Gather 25 is free to everyone everywhere.
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- And it won't be a gathering of the global
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- Church without you.
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- Your community, your congregation, your
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- Pastors and leaders from every state,
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- From every nation.
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- This is our moment of history to come together
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- And to carry forth the gospel to every person
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- On the earth.
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- This is an invitation to every follower of jesus.
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- This is gather 25.
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- Watch live friday, february 28th, starting
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- At 8:00 pm eastern on tbn and tbn+.
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- We're in dallas, texas.
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- Zac and jenni,.
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- There could be some people going,
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- I recognize her voice.
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- Is that jennie?
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- Yeah, that's jennie.
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- And these if gatherings. well, if kind of grew and
- 00:15:28.350 --> 00:15:32.221
- Turned into this gather 25 thing that we're
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- Talking about.
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- But before we keep going down the same railroad
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- Track, i'm going to ask you guys something.
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- Where do you guys come from?
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- Tell your story.
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- Wind back.
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- Where'd you meet zac?
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- Were you the quarterback and she was the--
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- Football player.
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- He was.
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- That's a good guess.
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- He was.
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- We're such a cliche.
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- Let him know.
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- Let's kind of wind the clock back and get behind
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- The scenes a touch because oftentimes
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- There's just a story behind the story that
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- Leads to these big events.
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- What's your kind of backstory?
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- Yeah.
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- Well, i'm the son of a legendary texas high
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- School football coach.
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- And so winning games was what paid his paycheck
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- And so competing at the highest level.
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- But my dad loves jesus and my greatest memories
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- With my dad were praying with him before games in
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- Front of odessa, permian, biggest games, 20,000
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- People in the stands.
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- And he would pray for god's will over victory.
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- And so my parents poured jesus into me and i
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- Walked with him in high school.
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- And then jennie and i met at a summer camp while we
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- Were in college.
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- We fell in love.
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- We could not get through college without
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- Getting married.
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- I was playing football.
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- Yes, i was a college quarterback at a little
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- School in east tennessee.
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- She moved there.
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- She gave up all of her broadcast journalism
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- Career and aspirations to go change the hill at
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- Washington, washington dc,
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- And we lived in married student housing in
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- Jefferson city, tennessee and started life together.
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- And we both were walking with jesus and we knew we
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- Wanted to do ministry with life, with our lives.
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- And i knew the gifts of my wife were really
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- Unique, but i had no clue at that time how god
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- Would use it.
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- And where did if come from?
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- Yeah, so i remember being in my home with three
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- Little kids and i, it was the middle of the night
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- And i had this dream about gathering.
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- This is crazy to think about now.
- 00:17:52.928 --> 00:17:54.163
- Today. it was--
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- What timeframe are we
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- Talking about?
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- I just turned 30, so this was over 15 years ago and
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- I was not writing, i was leading bible studies
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- In my home.
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- That's what i was doing.
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- And i had little kids.
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- I didn't have a blog.
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- I didn't have a platform.
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- We were pastoring a church.
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- We had planted a church in austin and she was a
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- Pastor's wife of three
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- Little kids. a church plant in a cafeteria.
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- And so i am sitting there and these are the words
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- That god gave me on my 30th birthday.
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- It was the night i turned 30.
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- This is wild to say
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- Now, disciple a generation.
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- And i remember i wrote the words down and i felt so
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- Heavy about them because i was like, how would a
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- Stay at home mom with a church plant in a
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- Cafeteria with three little kids disciple
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- A generation?
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- How would that ever happen?
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- So that night i went out with my friends and i
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- Remember-- i haven't told this story in so long.
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- I remember saying it out loud.
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- I was so heavy, i was teary.
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- I was like, what do i do with this?
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- And they said, jennie, if this is from god,
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- He will do it.
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- And that was good news for me.
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- I actually, as ambitious as i look with
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- All of these beautiful, amazing things that have
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- Happened, i really like just my normal life.
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- And so i was like, great, i will let him do it.
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- And sure enough, it would be five years later
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- Before my bible studies people were trying to
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- Publish 'em and they were spreading and they were
- 00:19:15.744 --> 00:19:17.379
- Being sent all over and it just took on a life
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- Of its own.
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- And so if gathering was honestly an answer to
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- That word that night because i was given the
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- Moon in publishing.
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- I mean i still didn't have a platform, but
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- Thomas nelson and huge publisher, he just said,
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- They said, we're going to publish you.
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- Your bible says your books, everything.
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- And i was like, i don't even know if i write
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- Books, i don't know what i'm doing.
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- And that was over, gosh, now 12, 13 years ago.
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- But when i look back at that time, i knew it was
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- Never about me.
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- I knew it wasn't about my publishing.
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- I knew it was about us working together, about
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- The church coming together.
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- When the words disciple a generation, that was
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- So big to me.
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- I mean i couldn't have imagined.
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- But then i looked today technology i couldn't
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- Have imagined back then, none of us could
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- Have, the capacity.
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- And so if gathering started when i just asked
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- All my friends to be with me, to not just each of
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- Us live on our island and build our own careers,
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- Our ministries, but to really build the
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- Kingdom together.
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- And so we offered if gathering, pay what you
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- Can, gather also is completely free.
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- So there was a lot of risk involved and god
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- Provided, ang all over the world, women gathered.
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- And so gather 25 is now, i mean again, i still
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- Didn't plan it.
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- It came again from a dream where i woke up and
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- I dreamed that jesus was coming back in 10 years.
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- And i don't know, that's no announcement.
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- I have no idea when he'll come back.
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- But the urgency it put in me to be faithful with
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- What i've been given, and i had been given a
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- Ministry that reached the world.
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- We reached 179 countries with if gathering.
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- We had women leaders all over the world.
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- And so when i woke up, i thought if jesus were
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- Coming back soon, we should gather the
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- Whole church.
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- And it was just a random thought.
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- It didn't stress me out, which-- random thought.
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- I know. people think that and have those thoughts
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- All the time.
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- I know. let's gather the whole global church.
- 00:21:20.001 --> 00:21:22.504
- I know, and it should have scared the tar out of me.
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- And if i knew what i knew today, it would've.
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- But that day i just woke up and i have been the
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- Girl that has found myself, like so many of us,
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- I'm lucy on the back of the lion.
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- I don't know where we're going, but i listen and i
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- Say yes, and he's provided.
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- And in saying yes to him over and over again, he
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- Has always been faithful and he has done more than
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- I can ask or imagine.
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- And so i am the girl that says yes.
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- And then i tell everybody else, you should say yes too.
- 00:21:52.634 --> 00:21:54.736
- Because if we all say yes, if every person just
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- Said, i will do whatever god calls me to do in my
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- Place, those 5.5 billion people that don't know
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- God, i think that's how everything changes.
- 00:22:03.645 --> 00:22:07.516
- I was in a meeting with bishop charles blake and
- 00:22:07.516 --> 00:22:10.752
- We were just getting ready to leave.
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- We were heading over to do an event with
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- Andre crouch.
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- This is years ago.
- 00:22:17.058 --> 00:22:19.027
- And i gave laurie the ticket for the car to go
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- Out and we were at a hotel and a big ballroom
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- And bishop charles blake and i was having to say
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- Some final thing to some technical guys.
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- We were getting ready to do a remote over at and
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- Crouch's church and i am leaving and charles blake
- 00:22:35.477 --> 00:22:42.818
- Is at the microphone and he yells out from behind.
- 00:22:42.818 --> 00:22:48.590
- I wasn't looking at him, i was leaving.
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- Now i'm through the doors of the ballroom into the
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- Lobby almost where i can see where laurie is to
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- Get the car.
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- And he yells out, if your vision isn't big enough,
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- God will diminish your resources so that he'll
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- Get the glory.
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- And i mean, i froze in my tracks and i remember
- 00:23:09.144 --> 00:23:12.681
- Thinking that's the secret to life is to say
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- Yes to something you can't possibly do.
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- Right?
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- It's the secret.
- 00:23:21.156 --> 00:23:22.257
- So when jennie shares this vision with me, my
- 00:23:22.257 --> 00:23:26.962
- Response is this is either arrogant, this is
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- Foolish, or this is of god.
- 00:23:31.633 --> 00:23:35.170
- And i processed this starting with arrogance.
- 00:23:35.170 --> 00:23:38.673
- Jennie's courageous and she's bold and she's full
- 00:23:38.673 --> 00:23:44.079
- Of faith, but she's not ambitious and she knew
- 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:49.384
- This was a dream from god.
- 00:23:49.384 --> 00:23:51.486
- This is not so-- i'm not looking for something
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- Else to do.
- 00:23:53.622 --> 00:23:54.523
- I've got a full plate of ministry.
- 00:23:54.523 --> 00:23:57.158
- Or is it foolish?
- 00:23:57.158 --> 00:23:59.294
- So she starts talking to other people, trusted
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- Advisors, you guys.
- 00:24:01.796 --> 00:24:03.832
- Yeah.
- 00:24:03.832 --> 00:24:04.966
- Early on. god's given this to me.
- 00:24:04.966 --> 00:24:07.469
- I always say, yes,
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- Yes, let's do it.
- 00:24:08.737 --> 00:24:10.472
- Foolish.
- 00:24:10.472 --> 00:24:11.406
- Yes, foolish.
- 00:24:11.406 --> 00:24:12.707
- I wasn't any help by the way, i always say yes.
- 00:24:12.707 --> 00:24:14.609
- Nobody shut it down.
- 00:24:14.609 --> 00:24:16.244
- Yeah, we got
- 00:24:16.244 --> 00:24:17.312
- A lot of yeses. a lot of yeses and a lot of
- 00:24:17.312 --> 00:24:19.514
- Partner organizations almost to the person said
- 00:24:19.514 --> 00:24:24.819
- Not just, yes, it's not foolish, but let's go.
- 00:24:24.819 --> 00:24:29.824
- What can i do?
- 00:24:29.824 --> 00:24:30.959
- I thought you were going to say he-- yes.
- 00:24:30.959 --> 00:24:33.028
- Yeah, i was afraid that you were--
- 00:24:33.028 --> 00:24:35.397
- The coach in me would want to do that.
- 00:24:35.397 --> 00:24:36.865
- But they just affirmed that this is of god as
- 00:24:36.865 --> 00:24:39.234
- Big and crazy as it has been.
- 00:24:39.234 --> 00:24:43.238
- And as a husband watching this every day and
- 00:24:43.238 --> 00:24:46.708
- Watching my wife, what it did not produce in
- 00:24:46.708 --> 00:24:49.411
- My wife was anxiety.
- 00:24:49.411 --> 00:24:51.813
- It actually was,
- 00:24:51.813 --> 00:24:52.747
- She was peaceful.
- 00:24:52.747 --> 00:24:53.748
- She was given the dream and she sat on it.
- 00:24:53.748 --> 00:24:56.051
- Actually, she went into sabbatical after
- 00:24:56.051 --> 00:24:59.020
- Receiving the dream again, trusting that god
- 00:24:59.020 --> 00:25:01.389
- Would do it
- 00:25:01.389 --> 00:25:02.958
- If this was of him. and it produced peace in her.
- 00:25:02.958 --> 00:25:05.627
- He will get it done.
- 00:25:05.627 --> 00:25:06.761
- Well, the reason it produces peace is because
- 00:25:06.761 --> 00:25:08.363
- He's basically asked me to play for the nba.
- 00:25:08.363 --> 00:25:11.333
- And i am a girl that his wife that lives in-- blonde
- 00:25:11.333 --> 00:25:15.203
- Hair-- he's asked me to do the impossible.
- 00:25:15.203 --> 00:25:17.372
- And so what are you going to do?
- 00:25:17.372 --> 00:25:19.374
- It's like, do i show up and play?
- 00:25:19.374 --> 00:25:20.909
- Okay, i'll show up and play.
- 00:25:20.909 --> 00:25:22.210
- I mean, i don't know why they would want me in the
- 00:25:22.210 --> 00:25:23.511
- Nba, but okay.
- 00:25:23.511 --> 00:25:24.846
- And so i think the gap is so big that it's
- 00:25:24.846 --> 00:25:26.948
- Almost fun.
- 00:25:26.948 --> 00:25:28.583
- It's almost fun to just go, god, you got to do it.
- 00:25:28.583 --> 00:25:31.519
- The kingdom is righteousness, peace and
- 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:34.389
- Joy in the holy ghost.
- 00:25:34.389 --> 00:25:36.124
- So whatever you do, if you're going to be
- 00:25:36.124 --> 00:25:40.128
- Thinking about being a emissary of god's
- 00:25:40.128 --> 00:25:43.298
- Kingdom, whatever you do, it could be anything.
- 00:25:43.298 --> 00:25:48.169
- Whatever god calls you to do, you have to go in the
- 00:25:48.169 --> 00:25:50.138
- Right attitude.
- 00:25:50.138 --> 00:25:51.272
- So righteousness, peace and joy is the attitude
- 00:25:51.272 --> 00:25:53.842
- That he can work through.
- 00:25:53.842 --> 00:25:55.176
- So it's not what he does for you, it's what he
- 00:25:55.176 --> 00:25:58.913
- Does through you that matters.
- 00:25:58.913 --> 00:26:01.349
- And making space for him by saying yes to an
- 00:26:01.349 --> 00:26:04.719
- Impossible thing.
- 00:26:04.719 --> 00:26:07.188
- I think of my mom and dad, lord have mercy.
- 00:26:07.188 --> 00:26:10.425
- We have 17 language networks on anywhere
- 00:26:10.425 --> 00:26:12.727
- There's electricity in the world.
- 00:26:12.727 --> 00:26:14.162
- And it started with one little tv station.
- 00:26:14.162 --> 00:26:16.097
- They just said, yes. the lord said, i've released
- 00:26:16.097 --> 00:26:18.466
- You from your work here. they were working for
- 00:26:18.466 --> 00:26:21.603
- Somebody else, and they quit.
- 00:26:21.603 --> 00:26:23.204
- And a few months later, the lord gave a specific
- 00:26:23.204 --> 00:26:25.507
- Wordm call a businessman, call angel lerma.
- 00:26:25.507 --> 00:26:28.810
- And he called angel lerma exactly as he left a
- 00:26:28.810 --> 00:26:32.614
- Business meeting where he just voted to sell the
- 00:26:32.614 --> 00:26:34.816
- Station and then god had to do miracles for the
- 00:26:34.816 --> 00:26:38.119
- Money to get it.
- 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:39.788
- But that all happened in the last five minutes of,
- 00:26:39.788 --> 00:26:42.524
- So 7 million miracles later,
- 00:26:42.524 --> 00:26:46.294
- We sit here today, 52 years later and here
- 00:26:46.294 --> 00:26:51.866
- We are.
- 00:26:51.866 --> 00:26:53.101
- But that's what god wants to do for anybody.
- 00:26:53.101 --> 00:26:54.736
- For everybody.
- 00:26:54.736 --> 00:26:56.137
- The kingdom of god is righteousness,
- 00:26:56.137 --> 00:26:58.973
- Peace and joy.
- 00:26:58.973 --> 00:27:00.475
- I'm going to give you an assignment.
- 00:27:00.475 --> 00:27:02.677
- I am going to do it through you. just
- 00:27:02.677 --> 00:27:06.481
- Surrender, surrender to me.
- 00:27:06.481 --> 00:27:11.252
- So fun. relax and surrender and rest in
- 00:27:11.252 --> 00:27:13.621
- Productivity.
- 00:27:13.621 --> 00:27:14.756
- The peaceful productivity of rest in knowing that
- 00:27:14.756 --> 00:27:18.993
- God is going to do something and be
- 00:27:18.993 --> 00:27:21.730
- Expectant of him doing something exciting today.
- 00:27:21.730 --> 00:27:26.134
- I know. and he does it.
- 00:27:26.134 --> 00:27:28.403
- He doesn't need us to really--
- 00:27:28.403 --> 00:27:30.905
- No. we do our thing.
- 00:27:30.905 --> 00:27:32.807
- I think when we surrender to the will of god, we
- 00:27:32.807 --> 00:27:36.211
- Automatically do what we're called to do.
- 00:27:36.211 --> 00:27:38.379
- I think it's that.
- 00:27:38.379 --> 00:27:39.581
- I actually think it's that simple.
- 00:27:39.581 --> 00:27:41.683
- We did a movie years ago on the book of esther.
- 00:27:41.683 --> 00:27:46.488
- So when you do a movie about esther, you meet a
- 00:27:46.488 --> 00:27:53.027
- Whole bunch of people that really care
- 00:27:53.027 --> 00:27:54.662
- About that book.
- 00:27:54.662 --> 00:27:56.264
- That's the one thing you need to know.
- 00:27:56.264 --> 00:27:57.899
- You got to be careful with that one.
- 00:27:57.899 --> 00:28:00.368
- And you meet
- 00:28:00.368 --> 00:28:02.570
- A whole lot of esthers.
- 00:28:02.570 --> 00:28:03.805
- Yeah, you meet a whole bunch of esters and you
- 00:28:03.805 --> 00:28:06.808
- End up kind of realizing when i finally found a
- 00:28:06.808 --> 00:28:08.743
- Jewish scholar that started breaking down
- 00:28:08.743 --> 00:28:13.081
- What the rabbinical writings are about, what
- 00:28:13.081 --> 00:28:16.484
- The point of the book of esther is is it's a very
- 00:28:16.484 --> 00:28:20.355
- Specific book that god's name's not mentioned in
- 00:28:20.355 --> 00:28:23.324
- To remind the jews that he's always working on
- 00:28:23.324 --> 00:28:25.827
- Your behalf behind the scenes.
- 00:28:25.827 --> 00:28:28.062
- So good.
- 00:28:28.062 --> 00:28:29.364
- So that's the whole book of esther there to know
- 00:28:29.364 --> 00:28:31.699
- That you'll be placed before kings and in these
- 00:28:31.699 --> 00:28:35.737
- Very important assignments, but you're
- 00:28:35.737 --> 00:28:39.707
- To know that god's doing all the work
- 00:28:39.707 --> 00:28:41.576
- Behind the scenes.
- 00:28:41.576 --> 00:28:43.311
- That's the whole grasp of the book of esther.
- 00:28:43.311 --> 00:28:46.281
- And that got pounded into us by many women that
- 00:28:46.281 --> 00:28:50.919
- Care about that book and the idea that stands out
- 00:28:50.919 --> 00:28:57.025
- The most so far.
- 00:28:57.025 --> 00:28:59.060
- You're a stay-at-home mom with three kids.
- 00:28:59.060 --> 00:29:01.329
- You're planting a church in cafeteria and you seem
- 00:29:01.329 --> 00:29:06.401
- To get this generational vision.
- 00:29:06.401 --> 00:29:10.505
- So that's connecting to anybody watching right now.
- 00:29:10.505 --> 00:29:16.644
- Talk to them for a second about that moment.
- 00:29:16.644 --> 00:29:22.450
- Go back to that moment when there was nothing
- 00:29:22.450 --> 00:29:25.420
- Going on.
- 00:29:25.420 --> 00:29:27.255
- Go back to that moment.
- 00:29:27.255 --> 00:29:28.723
- That's that's important.
- 00:29:28.723 --> 00:29:29.924
- I think what's helpful for the context of since
- 00:29:29.924 --> 00:29:32.360
- You were 17, you always had a group of women, a
- 00:29:32.360 --> 00:29:35.763
- Group of girls that you were discipling
- 00:29:35.763 --> 00:29:38.766
- In your home.
- 00:29:38.766 --> 00:29:40.802
- That's what i did.
- 00:29:40.802 --> 00:29:42.036
- Still what i do,
- 00:29:42.036 --> 00:29:43.137
- But you controlled that and you never allowed,
- 00:29:43.137 --> 00:29:46.574
- Even maybe knowing the gifts that you had, you
- 00:29:46.574 --> 00:29:49.410
- Didn't allow that to go beyond the living room to
- 00:29:49.410 --> 00:29:53.915
- Maybe use those gifts more publicly.
- 00:29:53.915 --> 00:29:55.683
- I got you.
- 00:29:55.683 --> 00:29:56.818
- That's part of what changed after this vision.
- 00:29:56.818 --> 00:29:59.754
- But i also just believe in the faithfulness
- 00:29:59.754 --> 00:30:02.123
- Of people.
- 00:30:02.123 --> 00:30:03.258
- I think about all of you out there right now
- 00:30:03.258 --> 00:30:04.893
- Watching and going, god's never going to give me a
- 00:30:04.893 --> 00:30:06.561
- Dream like that.
- 00:30:06.561 --> 00:30:07.462
- First of all, you don't know.
- 00:30:07.462 --> 00:30:08.596
- I certainly would've expected it, but i also
- 00:30:08.596 --> 00:30:10.698
- Think he's in the business of helping us
- 00:30:10.698 --> 00:30:14.135
- Jump off cliffs and he will have you jump off
- 00:30:14.135 --> 00:30:17.272
- A cliff.
- 00:30:17.272 --> 00:30:18.473
- I've watched my kids do it when they jump off a
- 00:30:18.473 --> 00:30:20.808
- Little cliff.
- 00:30:20.808 --> 00:30:21.676
- They are so scared.
- 00:30:21.676 --> 00:30:22.777
- The first time they ever did it, i will never
- 00:30:22.777 --> 00:30:23.311
- Forget it.
- 00:30:23.311 --> 00:30:23.945
- It was like a rock.
- 00:30:23.945 --> 00:30:24.779
- It wasn't very big at all.
- 00:30:24.779 --> 00:30:25.680
- And they're all standing over.
- 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:26.781
- It took them forever, but then they did it
- 00:30:26.781 --> 00:30:29.117
- And they loved it.
- 00:30:29.117 --> 00:30:30.285
- And then they wanted to go up higher and they
- 00:30:30.285 --> 00:30:31.719
- Wanted to go up higher.
- 00:30:31.719 --> 00:30:32.921
- And finally i was like, no, you've got to stop.
- 00:30:32.921 --> 00:30:34.522
- They weren't afraid anymore.
- 00:30:34.522 --> 00:30:35.890
- And i think that's how god works is he will have
- 00:30:35.890 --> 00:30:38.626
- You take a risk.
- 00:30:38.626 --> 00:30:39.761
- And so i just even think about this huge group
- 00:30:39.761 --> 00:30:41.930
- Project with gather 25, you could have some
- 00:30:41.930 --> 00:30:44.265
- People over in your living room. all of us
- 00:30:44.265 --> 00:30:46.634
- Hosting around the world.
- 00:30:46.634 --> 00:30:47.735
- The way it is happening, there's over 10,000
- 00:30:47.735 --> 00:30:49.070
- Events happening.
- 00:30:49.070 --> 00:30:50.605
- The way it's happening is ordinary people saying,
- 00:30:50.605 --> 00:30:53.274
- Okay, i'll be brave.
- 00:30:53.274 --> 00:30:54.909
- I don't know what this is, but i'll invite my
- 00:30:54.909 --> 00:30:57.078
- Friends or i'll tell my pastor, or we'll have
- 00:30:57.078 --> 00:30:59.347
- Something in our church.
- 00:30:59.347 --> 00:31:00.715
- And all of these people have just said, yes,
- 00:31:00.715 --> 00:31:02.684
- 10,000 of them around the world.
- 00:31:02.684 --> 00:31:05.153
- And so when you think of each person saying yes in
- 00:31:05.153 --> 00:31:07.889
- Their place and they invite a few people, that
- 00:31:07.889 --> 00:31:09.490
- Is how the church gathers.
- 00:31:09.490 --> 00:31:11.025
- It's not tbn, it's not gather.
- 00:31:11.025 --> 00:31:12.493
- It's you.
- 00:31:12.493 --> 00:31:13.861
- It's you and your places.
- 00:31:13.861 --> 00:31:15.129
- But that's just a start.
- 00:31:15.129 --> 00:31:16.464
- And what will happen is you'll say yes.
- 00:31:16.464 --> 00:31:17.899
- And just like so many of my friends that hosted if
- 00:31:17.899 --> 00:31:20.401
- Gathering in idaho or uganda, all of a sudden
- 00:31:20.401 --> 00:31:24.238
- Now they're leading huge ministries because
- 00:31:24.238 --> 00:31:25.873
- It just grew.
- 00:31:25.873 --> 00:31:27.408
- And i think that's what you've got to realize is
- 00:31:27.408 --> 00:31:29.510
- People actually want god.
- 00:31:29.510 --> 00:31:31.679
- People are craving hope.
- 00:31:31.679 --> 00:31:34.549
- They are craving god.
- 00:31:34.549 --> 00:31:36.117
- And when you go into the world believing that, you
- 00:31:36.117 --> 00:31:39.620
- Invite people into the faith that you have and
- 00:31:39.620 --> 00:31:43.091
- The hope that you have, they're so grateful.
- 00:31:43.091 --> 00:31:46.127
- They're so grateful.
- 00:31:46.127 --> 00:31:47.195
- And i'm not saying every time, but guys, i just
- 00:31:47.195 --> 00:31:49.664
- Think we are in a moment where that hope is best
- 00:31:49.664 --> 00:31:54.168
- Told through each of you, through every single one
- 00:31:54.168 --> 00:31:58.339
- Of you in your places.
- 00:31:58.339 --> 00:31:59.974
- We do our jobs on a big scale that god's called us to.
- 00:31:59.974 --> 00:32:02.910
- And that's part of the domino that is falling
- 00:32:02.910 --> 00:32:04.779
- Into your life right now.
- 00:32:04.779 --> 00:32:06.848
- But you are the domino that is supposed to fall
- 00:32:06.848 --> 00:32:08.950
- Into other people's lives.
- 00:32:08.950 --> 00:32:10.284
- And so we all share the same purpose.
- 00:32:10.284 --> 00:32:12.153
- I don't think of it as big and small.
- 00:32:12.153 --> 00:32:13.654
- I think of it as the same story that your dad did
- 00:32:13.654 --> 00:32:16.624
- With angel the day he obeyed.
- 00:32:16.624 --> 00:32:18.559
- He had no idea the repercussions.
- 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.628
- I think of the story of the shoe salesman that
- 00:32:20.628 --> 00:32:23.031
- Shared jesus with dl moody.
- 00:32:23.031 --> 00:32:24.465
- He had no idea the repercussions of that.
- 00:32:24.465 --> 00:32:26.467
- If each of us just takes our place in the story,
- 00:32:26.467 --> 00:32:29.670
- That is the heart of gather is that the church
- 00:32:29.670 --> 00:32:31.773
- Would be commissioned to reach every person with a
- 00:32:31.773 --> 00:32:34.375
- Love of jesus.
- 00:32:34.375 --> 00:32:35.610
- Not that this would be a big show or a big event,
- 00:32:35.610 --> 00:32:38.846
- But that each of us would realize, oh gosh, i'm a
- 00:32:38.846 --> 00:32:41.182
- Part of a team.
- 00:32:41.182 --> 00:32:42.283
- It's winning.
- 00:32:42.283 --> 00:32:43.451
- I don't want to miss that.
- 00:32:43.451 --> 00:32:45.086
- I hope we all have fomo after this, that we just
- 00:32:45.086 --> 00:32:47.588
- All feel like i want to be a part of the
- 00:32:47.588 --> 00:32:49.390
- Story of god.
- 00:32:49.390 --> 00:32:50.525
- What i love about it is there could be somebody
- 00:32:50.525 --> 00:32:52.193
- Viewing even right now saying, i want to say yes
- 00:32:52.193 --> 00:32:55.329
- To something now.
- 00:32:55.329 --> 00:32:57.498
- And so all that information on the screen
- 00:32:57.498 --> 00:32:59.967
- Is where you can say yes and invite your
- 00:32:59.967 --> 00:33:03.337
- Neighborhood in and watch as much of it as you can.
- 00:33:03.337 --> 00:33:08.176
- I mean, i don't know how many people are going to
- 00:33:08.176 --> 00:33:12.880
- Sit and watch 24 hours with toothpicks in their
- 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.683
- Eyes, but it's meant to shift around obviously
- 00:33:15.683 --> 00:33:18.853
- The globe and to touch everybody.
- 00:33:18.853 --> 00:33:21.389
- What an amazing thing.
- 00:33:21.389 --> 00:33:24.025
- We're grateful that we're a part of it.
- 00:33:24.025 --> 00:33:25.693
- We want to bring a bunch of it to you here at tbn
- 00:33:25.693 --> 00:33:29.530
- And we're a big part of it.
- 00:33:29.530 --> 00:33:30.965
- We have a roll-in that we want you to see.
- 00:33:30.965 --> 00:33:33.801
- That'll help explain a lot about what we're
- 00:33:33.801 --> 00:33:36.704
- Talking about, what we've been talking about.
- 00:33:36.704 --> 00:33:39.307
- Watch this.
- 00:33:39.307 --> 00:33:43.077
- Imagine if the 2.5 billion followers of
- 00:33:43.911 --> 00:33:48.149
- Jesus on the earth right now joined together for
- 00:33:48.149 --> 00:33:52.954
- One global gathering with one goal, to go and make
- 00:33:52.954 --> 00:34:00.661
- Disciples of all people.
- 00:34:00.661 --> 00:34:03.564
- What you're imagining is a sacred meeting, unlike
- 00:34:03.564 --> 00:34:07.401
- Any other in history.
- 00:34:07.401 --> 00:34:10.037
- What you're imagining is gather 25. from every
- 00:34:10.037 --> 00:34:15.409
- Continent and culture,
- 00:34:15.409 --> 00:34:17.278
- Jesus followers are coming together in the
- 00:34:17.278 --> 00:34:19.313
- Year 2025 for prayer, worship, repentance
- 00:34:19.313 --> 00:34:23.918
- And commissioning.
- 00:34:23.918 --> 00:34:26.020
- Connected live from africa and australia,
- 00:34:26.020 --> 00:34:28.322
- From europe and asia, from north and south
- 00:34:28.322 --> 00:34:31.592
- America in unprecedented gathering across
- 00:34:31.592 --> 00:34:34.228
- Every time zone,
- 00:34:34.228 --> 00:34:36.330
- Gather 25 is free to everyone everywhere.
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- Pastors and leaders from every state,
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- And to carry forth the gospel to every person
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- On the earth.
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- When you were saying just a moment ago, jennie,
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- About this kind of analogy, a couple of
- 00:35:25.546 --> 00:35:30.451
- Things popped into my head.
- 00:35:30.451 --> 00:35:32.653
- Your kids were afraid to jump off the rock and
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- Then they wanted to go higher and higher and higher.
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- I feel you.
- 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.294
- Oftentimes people need to hear stories that we all
- 00:35:40.294 --> 00:35:49.570
- Feel that way. when we say yes to something, we
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- Realize we're in for this kind of radical
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- Ride of some sort.
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- And it's always kind of scary and intense all at
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- The same time.
- 00:36:05.052 --> 00:36:07.488
- But you get used to that level of scary,
- 00:36:07.488 --> 00:36:10.124
- Then you need a higher position and then you
- 00:36:10.124 --> 00:36:12.426
- Just keep going.
- 00:36:12.426 --> 00:36:14.228
- I don't think there's any shortcuts.
- 00:36:14.228 --> 00:36:16.163
- So if somebody wants something volunteering to
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- Just say yes, to have a gathering with gather 25 and
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- To participate is a really good start.
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- It's a great start.
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- Yes.
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- It kind of hearkens back to you being a
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- Stay-at-home mom with three kids and how can i
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- Do anything to quote, what was the exact word,
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- Pastor a nation?
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- Or-- disciple a generation.
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- Disciple a generation.
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- That's a jump.
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- Yeah.
- 00:36:43.958 --> 00:36:44.759
- Big, big jump.
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- And we were sitting, laurie and i were sitting with
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- Some friends of ours.
- 00:36:50.031 --> 00:36:51.699
- He's a businessman, his name is mason.
- 00:36:51.699 --> 00:36:55.036
- And mason told us the most incredible
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- Kind of vision.
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- This is a really great story.
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- And he was telling this story that one of his
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- Friends had a, they were in prayer and mason said,
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- Did you see anything?
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- He goes, i actually did.
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- Lemme tell you what i saw.
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- So he said he this vision, he saw a guy, it
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- Was him climbing a think of a cliff with the
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- Crashing, raging waters
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- Down below him below.
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- You can't fall into that, you'll die.
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- I mean, so he, he's climbing up, he's
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- Climbing up, climbing up.
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- Strength is coming out of his arms and he's
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- Getting tired.
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- He's asking jesus to help him.
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- Lord, if you were only at the top of this thing,
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- I'm almost to the top.
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- I'm not quite there.
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- If you were just there, you could reach down
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- And get me.
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- And you could a hand and you could just, and sure
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- Enough, as soon as he was kind of praying that sure
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- Enough, a hand reached down.
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- He's reaching up towards the hand.
- 00:38:13.614 --> 00:38:15.549
- Jesus looks into his eyes from above and the next
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- Thing he knows, jesus jumps off the cliff.
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- And as he's falling next to him, he says, follow me.
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- And he lets go of the cliff and falls backwards
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- Into the waves.
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- This is my life.
- 00:38:32.867 --> 00:38:34.034
- And he found that it wasn't a boiling sea, it
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- Was the endless love of god that he had dropped
- 00:38:36.937 --> 00:38:39.106
- Into, but he had to let go.
- 00:38:39.106 --> 00:38:43.944
- So the analogy i've been living lately that i most
- 00:38:43.944 --> 00:38:46.881
- Relate to is for so long in this journey, you can
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- Imagine bringing together seven continents, men,
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- Women, children, all over the world, the cost
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- Of technology.
- 00:38:56.624 --> 00:38:58.125
- We're doing 80 languages.
- 00:38:58.125 --> 00:38:59.927
- We have production teams and speakers and worship
- 00:38:59.927 --> 00:39:03.364
- And openings that are dramatic with drummers.
- 00:39:03.364 --> 00:39:06.133
- And all these details, you can imagine how big
- 00:39:06.133 --> 00:39:09.136
- This is and how much it has cost and our team and
- 00:39:09.136 --> 00:39:12.640
- Just all of it in every single way and just
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- Spiritual warfare that would accompany something
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- Like this has been a part of this story as well.
- 00:39:17.945 --> 00:39:19.613
- And so for so long, i would tell my team, we're
- 00:39:19.613 --> 00:39:22.783
- Standing in front of the red sea and we are just
- 00:39:22.783 --> 00:39:24.985
- Going to beg god to part it and for him to do it.
- 00:39:24.985 --> 00:39:28.155
- Well, then miracles started happening.
- 00:39:28.155 --> 00:39:29.590
- Things you can't imagine started happening.
- 00:39:29.590 --> 00:39:31.692
- I mean, i sit down with a guy i've never met and he
- 00:39:31.692 --> 00:39:33.627
- Was like, listen, i didn't come here to give
- 00:39:33.627 --> 00:39:36.597
- You money, but i think i'm supposed to help and
- 00:39:36.597 --> 00:39:38.632
- Ends up being one of our very biggest donors from
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- One meal and didn't even understand it all.
- 00:39:41.168 --> 00:39:43.971
- And so i've just watched again and again and
- 00:39:43.971 --> 00:39:46.707
- Again, god provide, god provide, god provide.
- 00:39:46.707 --> 00:39:48.876
- But he still, i'm at the end of the cliff.
- 00:39:48.876 --> 00:39:52.546
- I'm weeks away and there's still things.
- 00:39:52.546 --> 00:39:55.449
- This is so scary and big.
- 00:39:55.449 --> 00:39:58.486
- And so i've told my team, i said, i think now we're
- 00:39:58.486 --> 00:40:03.157
- In the middle of the red sea and it turns out the
- 00:40:03.157 --> 00:40:06.160
- Middle of the red sea is kind of scary too.
- 00:40:06.160 --> 00:40:08.929
- And the water's hitting our faces and the walls
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- Of water on both sides.
- 00:40:10.764 --> 00:40:12.233
- We can't go back.
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- It's weeks away.
- 00:40:14.134 --> 00:40:15.536
- It's happening.
- 00:40:15.536 --> 00:40:16.504
- We're here to tell you it is happening.
- 00:40:16.504 --> 00:40:17.905
- Be there.
- 00:40:17.905 --> 00:40:19.273
- And it's scary.
- 00:40:19.273 --> 00:40:21.308
- And i want to say that vulnerably because i
- 00:40:21.308 --> 00:40:24.678
- Think people can talk a big game and act like,
- 00:40:24.678 --> 00:40:28.148
- Yes, i did this great thing and this was amazing.
- 00:40:28.148 --> 00:40:31.218
- This is not my thing.
- 00:40:31.218 --> 00:40:33.687
- This has been god from the beginning.
- 00:40:33.687 --> 00:40:35.589
- And it's scary.
- 00:40:35.589 --> 00:40:37.424
- And we're all that kid on the side of the cliff
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- Hanging on for dear life and willing to keep going
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- And willing to grab the hand.
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- And then, i mean, i'm so ministered to by the
- 00:40:46.433 --> 00:40:48.235
- Story because i do feel like he's saying, jennie,
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- Let me finish this job.
- 00:40:50.738 --> 00:40:53.407
- Let me do it.
- 00:40:53.407 --> 00:40:55.242
- Going to-- i can't gather the world.
- 00:40:55.242 --> 00:40:56.944
- I have a lot of followers.
- 00:40:56.944 --> 00:40:58.212
- I don't have that many.
- 00:40:58.212 --> 00:40:59.380
- I can't do it, but he can.
- 00:40:59.380 --> 00:41:02.116
- And so he keeps helping and he keeps doing it.
- 00:41:02.116 --> 00:41:05.553
- I'll encourage you, oddly encourage you by saying
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- This, it feels like most of our lives in making
- 00:41:10.457 --> 00:41:17.932
- The nine theatrical motion pictures that we
- 00:41:17.932 --> 00:41:21.835
- Did and right as peter o'toole and omar sharif
- 00:41:21.835 --> 00:41:24.905
- For showing up on set, our indian crew
- 00:41:24.905 --> 00:41:28.108
- Hostaged, the shoot.
- 00:41:28.108 --> 00:41:30.444
- But what i think is what's happening is the
- 00:41:30.444 --> 00:41:34.081
- Lord loves it when he simply doesn't show you
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- Where you're going.
- 00:41:40.421 --> 00:41:42.823
- And you get so far down the road that you just,
- 00:41:42.823 --> 00:41:46.093
- Laurie and i have said, and we're a few years ahead
- 00:41:46.093 --> 00:41:49.663
- Of you guys, we have said so many times, oh, for
- 00:41:49.663 --> 00:41:53.267
- God's sakes, it would be harder to turn around
- 00:41:53.267 --> 00:41:56.403
- And go back.
- 00:41:56.403 --> 00:41:57.738
- Why do we always have to walk on water?
- 00:41:57.738 --> 00:41:59.940
- We're just stuck.
- 00:41:59.940 --> 00:42:01.976
- So you might as well just for get up tomorrow, put
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- Another foot in front.
- 00:42:03.677 --> 00:42:05.412
- Just do it.
- 00:42:05.412 --> 00:42:06.280
- Just walk on water, baby.
- 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.182
- And it just ends up being that here we are sitting
- 00:42:08.182 --> 00:42:13.087
- There telling our inner motivations instead of
- 00:42:13.087 --> 00:42:19.860
- Saying, hey, we've got it all together.
- 00:42:19.860 --> 00:42:21.395
- We're just saying yes to god.
- 00:42:21.395 --> 00:42:23.097
- And that's
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- All there is.
- 00:42:23.998 --> 00:42:25.265
- And gary, his hat.
- 00:42:25.265 --> 00:42:26.200
- And it's not easy.
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- Yes.
- 00:42:26.900 --> 00:42:27.735
- It's not easy believing.
- 00:42:27.735 --> 00:42:28.769
- Well, that's a good word for us right now.
- 00:42:28.769 --> 00:42:29.937
- All i've said for many years, it's just easier
- 00:42:29.937 --> 00:42:31.338
- To keep going.
- 00:42:31.338 --> 00:42:32.706
- It'd be harder to unwind it.
- 00:42:32.706 --> 00:42:34.942
- It's a walk of, and all they know in that moment,
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- All they know is that there's chariots
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- Following them into the red sea.
- 00:42:41.682 --> 00:42:43.517
- They don't know how the story ends.
- 00:42:43.517 --> 00:42:44.952
- And so i keep thinking and finding hope in that,
- 00:42:44.952 --> 00:42:47.154
- He has always been faithful.
- 00:42:47.154 --> 00:42:49.757
- I remember somebody told me about a quote, i think
- 00:42:49.757 --> 00:42:51.425
- It might've been hudson taylor that said, if you
- 00:42:51.425 --> 00:42:53.794
- Do god's will god's way, everything you need is
- 00:42:53.794 --> 00:42:56.897
- Going to come.
- 00:42:56.897 --> 00:42:57.998
- And that has been true so far.
- 00:42:57.998 --> 00:43:02.936
- So i can't wait to get to march 2nd and watch how
- 00:43:02.936 --> 00:43:05.506
- It all proved true.
- 00:43:05.506 --> 00:43:06.573
- When laurie and i were in cesarea, israel with a
- 00:43:06.573 --> 00:43:11.011
- Big group that we had taken, and it was
- 00:43:11.011 --> 00:43:14.615
- Probably the last time my dad spoke publicly before
- 00:43:14.615 --> 00:43:19.086
- He passed, and he was placing the mantle of tbn
- 00:43:19.086 --> 00:43:24.558
- On laurie and i.
- 00:43:24.558 --> 00:43:25.826
- Wow.
- 00:43:25.826 --> 00:43:27.161
- And standing in front of that amazing place where
- 00:43:27.161 --> 00:43:31.365
- Agrippa said, paul, you have almost persuaded me.
- 00:43:31.365 --> 00:43:36.470
- I mean we're standing, we're right there
- 00:43:36.470 --> 00:43:37.271
- In that same place.
- 00:43:37.271 --> 00:43:38.806
- It was a big moment.
- 00:43:38.806 --> 00:43:40.741
- He said, the mantle that the lord placed on your
- 00:43:40.741 --> 00:43:44.445
- Mother and i so many years ago, i now with
- 00:43:44.445 --> 00:43:47.314
- Love and joy place on you.
- 00:43:47.314 --> 00:43:51.552
- And there was this moment there that that was happening.
- 00:43:51.552 --> 00:43:57.191
- He had spent about 15 minutes speaking to
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- Make one point.
- 00:44:04.031 --> 00:44:06.100
- And he said, why does god always wait till the
- 00:44:06.100 --> 00:44:08.368
- Last five minutes?
- 00:44:08.368 --> 00:44:10.637
- Why does he do that?
- 00:44:10.637 --> 00:44:12.539
- The last-- why is he?
- 00:44:12.539 --> 00:44:14.808
- And he used that exact thing, the egyptian
- 00:44:14.808 --> 00:44:17.044
- Swooping down and the red sea.
- 00:44:17.044 --> 00:44:19.747
- And why?
- 00:44:19.747 --> 00:44:20.581
- Why?
- 00:44:20.581 --> 00:44:22.082
- And it was the only time that-- i had heard him use
- 00:44:22.082 --> 00:44:26.954
- That kind of sermon a couple other times.
- 00:44:26.954 --> 00:44:31.625
- But it was the only time that he ever said, he
- 00:44:31.625 --> 00:44:34.228
- Followed up by saying, one time in quiet time, i
- 00:44:34.228 --> 00:44:36.797
- Really pressed the lord for an answer.
- 00:44:36.797 --> 00:44:40.267
- And he actually answered me.
- 00:44:40.267 --> 00:44:42.236
- And he said it was simple but profound so that no
- 00:44:42.236 --> 00:44:46.373
- Man can get the glory.
- 00:44:46.373 --> 00:44:48.375
- That's right.
- 00:44:48.375 --> 00:44:50.277
- So out the idea that you say yes, and then you
- 00:44:50.277 --> 00:44:54.081
- Say, okay, god, but you have to do it.
- 00:44:54.081 --> 00:44:56.750
- But worry is simply doubting that.
- 00:44:56.750 --> 00:44:59.620
- Right?
- 00:44:59.620 --> 00:45:01.288
- So lemme explain something to you.
- 00:45:01.288 --> 00:45:02.823
- The spiritual warfare is right here.
- 00:45:02.823 --> 00:45:04.925
- That's right.
- 00:45:04.925 --> 00:45:06.493
- Amen.
- 00:45:06.493 --> 00:45:09.463
- It is true
- 00:45:07.861 --> 00:45:10.964
- For all of you too.
- 00:45:10.964 --> 00:45:13.000
- If you are going to say yes, then you have to win
- 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.068
- The war right here.
- 00:45:15.068 --> 00:45:16.270
- Believe well.
- 00:45:16.270 --> 00:45:17.604
- The battlefield is the mind and believe
- 00:45:17.604 --> 00:45:20.274
- Well. david didn't beat goliath because he was a
- 00:45:20.274 --> 00:45:23.410
- Mighty warrior.
- 00:45:23.410 --> 00:45:24.745
- He believed well, okay.
- 00:45:24.745 --> 00:45:28.382
- He believed that if i took care of the lion and
- 00:45:28.382 --> 00:45:31.285
- The bear-- god delivered me from the lion
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- And the bear.
- 00:45:34.421 --> 00:45:36.890
- So what's with this now?
- 00:45:36.890 --> 00:45:39.126
- So it's always where you place your trust.
- 00:45:39.126 --> 00:45:43.964
- And he's never late.
- 00:45:43.964 --> 00:45:46.066
- It's beautiful actually.
- 00:45:46.066 --> 00:45:48.368
- He's always right on time.
- 00:45:48.368 --> 00:45:50.537
- He's always right on time.
- 00:45:50.537 --> 00:45:52.739
- And so it's beautifully actual that we are
- 00:45:52.739 --> 00:45:56.076
- Talking about a global event.
- 00:45:56.076 --> 00:45:57.911
- Gather 25, tbn is a part of broadcasting this.
- 00:45:57.911 --> 00:46:02.616
- So you're going to get a big chunk and kind of
- 00:46:02.616 --> 00:46:05.619
- Tbn+.
- 00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:07.120
- Yeah, tbn+ is 24 hours.
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- 25 hours,
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- 25, 25, 25 hours
- 00:46:09.923 --> 00:46:11.758
- And all of that.
- 00:46:11.758 --> 00:46:13.927
- But we're talking about it in a way that we're
- 00:46:13.927 --> 00:46:17.764
- Not sitting up here kind of going, wait a second,
- 00:46:17.764 --> 00:46:21.768
- We've got this all figured out and doing one
- 00:46:21.768 --> 00:46:24.037
- Of these things.
- 00:46:24.037 --> 00:46:25.606
- It's like, oh god, right?
- 00:46:25.606 --> 00:46:27.875
- Help. oh god.
- 00:46:27.875 --> 00:46:29.977
- And by the way, i was having a oh god moment
- 00:46:29.977 --> 00:46:34.314
- Not long ago, and my pastor the next sunday
- 00:46:34.314 --> 00:46:38.485
- Said, and by the way, literally pointed at us
- 00:46:38.485 --> 00:46:42.656
- And said, oh by the way, god loves it when you
- 00:46:42.656 --> 00:46:44.691
- Say, oh god,
- 00:46:44.691 --> 00:46:48.762
- That's right.
- 00:46:48.762 --> 00:46:50.831
- And i went, he does.
- 00:46:50.831 --> 00:46:53.433
- Yes, i could do that really good.
- 00:46:53.433 --> 00:46:56.803
- Yeah, exactly.
- 00:46:56.803 --> 00:46:58.272
- I send that a few times.
- 00:46:58.272 --> 00:46:59.840
- Oh, you guys have been god help has been
- 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:01.108
- My, oh god.
- 00:47:01.108 --> 00:47:02.542
- And i say it in the car all the time.
- 00:47:02.542 --> 00:47:03.977
- I mean, sometimes i just don't even know what to pray.
- 00:47:03.977 --> 00:47:05.846
- It's just god help, god help this little fire
- 00:47:05.846 --> 00:47:07.114
- That came up in this other country and the
- 00:47:07.114 --> 00:47:08.582
- Logistics that are going with that.
- 00:47:08.582 --> 00:47:09.783
- God, help with the finances, god help with
- 00:47:09.783 --> 00:47:12.786
- The worship leader that canceled at the last minute.
- 00:47:12.786 --> 00:47:13.787
- God, help.
- 00:47:13.787 --> 00:47:15.722
- And i just find he has been helping.
- 00:47:15.722 --> 00:47:19.459
- Of course he's made this happen.
- 00:47:19.459 --> 00:47:20.894
- But you're right about the glory.
- 00:47:20.894 --> 00:47:23.263
- I mean, let it be said as clearly as i can say it all.
- 00:47:23.263 --> 00:47:26.733
- The only thing that i did was say, yes. everything
- 00:47:26.733 --> 00:47:30.404
- Else has sprung up around me.
- 00:47:30.404 --> 00:47:33.340
- Even our relationship, we sit down together
- 00:47:33.340 --> 00:47:36.810
- 18 months ago and the fact that this is getting
- 00:47:36.810 --> 00:47:38.245
- Aired on tb and i couldn't have made
- 00:47:38.245 --> 00:47:39.313
- That happen.
- 00:47:39.313 --> 00:47:40.447
- Favor of god. and every little part of this story
- 00:47:40.447 --> 00:47:43.283
- Has just been his story.
- 00:47:43.283 --> 00:47:44.618
- And so i really am, thank you for the word.
- 00:47:44.618 --> 00:47:48.255
- I will leave here and probably have a good
- 00:47:48.255 --> 00:47:50.023
- Little cry because as it gets closer, the
- 00:47:50.023 --> 00:47:52.893
- Intensity picks up.
- 00:47:52.893 --> 00:47:54.561
- And i do trust him.
- 00:47:54.561 --> 00:47:56.530
- He's been faithful.
- 00:47:56.530 --> 00:47:58.198
- But yeah, it is scary still.
- 00:47:58.198 --> 00:48:00.300
- Well, so there is something that you
- 00:48:00.300 --> 00:48:01.735
- Can do today.
- 00:48:01.735 --> 00:48:02.936
- You can pray.
- 00:48:02.936 --> 00:48:03.837
- Yes.
- 00:48:03.837 --> 00:48:04.638
- You can pray for this.
- 00:48:04.638 --> 00:48:05.706
- This is happening starting february 28th,
- 00:48:05.706 --> 00:48:08.108
- Right here on tv.
- 00:48:08.108 --> 00:48:09.910
- And it starts live from watermark church at
- 00:48:09.910 --> 00:48:13.513
- 7 o'clock. 8:00 pm,
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- 8:00 pm eastern.
- 00:48:16.650 --> 00:48:17.484
- Yeah.
- 00:48:17.484 --> 00:48:18.385
- Seven o'clock here in dallas.
- 00:48:18.385 --> 00:48:20.153
- And we'll go 25 hours, four live on the
- 00:48:20.153 --> 00:48:24.157
- Network that day.
- 00:48:24.157 --> 00:48:25.425
- I know it airs the next day with some, but on tbn+,
- 00:48:25.425 --> 00:48:27.327
- It's the whole 25 hours across the world
- 00:48:27.327 --> 00:48:30.364
- And this thing is going to happen.
- 00:48:30.364 --> 00:48:33.100
- I love though that sometimes when someone
- 00:48:33.100 --> 00:48:36.103
- Drops out or that you just have to go, okay,
- 00:48:36.103 --> 00:48:40.874
- What's next?
- 00:48:40.874 --> 00:48:42.142
- Yeah, okay, that's the will of god.
- 00:48:42.142 --> 00:48:44.778
- Let's see what god does now.
- 00:48:44.778 --> 00:48:46.613
- And he has done
- 00:48:46.613 --> 00:48:48.248
- That, yes.
- 00:48:48.248 --> 00:48:49.449
- And so you can pray, you can pray for all the team.
- 00:48:49.449 --> 00:48:52.119
- God has put together an amazing team, the
- 00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.087
- Gathered 25 team, the tbn team that has been
- 00:48:54.087 --> 00:48:56.923
- All over this.
- 00:48:56.923 --> 00:48:58.291
- We're all ready, willing, and able, and let's go.
- 00:48:58.291 --> 00:49:01.928
- We're excited.
- 00:49:01.928 --> 00:49:03.063
- I want to
- 00:49:03.063 --> 00:49:04.264
- Give you guys the final word, but i want to say
- 00:49:04.264 --> 00:49:05.699
- Something that it's almost like where we
- 00:49:05.699 --> 00:49:08.635
- Started this broadcast and where
- 00:49:08.635 --> 00:49:10.137
- We're finishing.
- 00:49:10.137 --> 00:49:11.338
- I kind of just got this thought that it almost is
- 00:49:11.338 --> 00:49:15.942
- What i did with bill bright and how your lives
- 00:49:15.942 --> 00:49:20.414
- Were affected by campus crusade and dr. bill
- 00:49:20.414 --> 00:49:24.418
- Bright and that it feels like this giant episode
- 00:49:24.418 --> 00:49:29.122
- Of the tv show that i used to do with him
- 00:49:29.122 --> 00:49:32.092
- Called new life 2000.
- 00:49:32.092 --> 00:49:33.994
- And it was always this encouraging thing and
- 00:49:33.994 --> 00:49:37.998
- Everyone always, it was bill bright's intention
- 00:49:37.998 --> 00:49:41.868
- That when you finished investing the time
- 00:49:41.868 --> 00:49:46.173
- Watching the program, new life 2000, that you were
- 00:49:46.173 --> 00:49:49.843
- Encouraged to say, i didn't know i was on a
- 00:49:49.843 --> 00:49:53.213
- Winning team.
- 00:49:53.213 --> 00:49:54.581
- Almost like when the prophet said, open the
- 00:49:54.581 --> 00:49:57.551
- Eyes of my servant so that he can see there are
- 00:49:57.551 --> 00:50:00.821
- More for us than against us.
- 00:50:00.821 --> 00:50:03.390
- And it feels like that was new life 2000.
- 00:50:03.390 --> 00:50:06.460
- This is gather 25 and it is a unveiling of
- 00:50:06.460 --> 00:50:13.300
- What is happening.
- 00:50:13.300 --> 00:50:16.403
- It's exactly what god's doing.
- 00:50:16.403 --> 00:50:17.771
- In the earth.
- 00:50:17.771 --> 00:50:19.172
- His glory revealed for 25 hours gathered 25.
- 00:50:19.172 --> 00:50:24.611
- Final thought is your guys.
- 00:50:24.611 --> 00:50:26.379
- Yeah, i mean, i just want to say you are a part
- 00:50:26.379 --> 00:50:30.150
- Of the story.
- 00:50:30.150 --> 00:50:32.018
- This isn't about special people and special places
- 00:50:32.018 --> 00:50:34.988
- Doing special things.
- 00:50:34.988 --> 00:50:36.089
- The bible wasn't about that either.
- 00:50:36.089 --> 00:50:38.125
- This is his story.
- 00:50:38.125 --> 00:50:39.259
- God's story is about every day people saying
- 00:50:39.259 --> 00:50:42.162
- Yes to him and god doing the impossible and
- 00:50:42.162 --> 00:50:45.332
- Miraculous through them.
- 00:50:45.332 --> 00:50:47.634
- And so don't count yourselves out.
- 00:50:47.634 --> 00:50:50.303
- And yes, being a part of gather 25 and hosting
- 00:50:50.303 --> 00:50:53.807
- People will give you everything you need.
- 00:50:53.807 --> 00:50:56.143
- It's a scary venture that is a part of it.
- 00:50:56.143 --> 00:50:58.778
- You can sign up@gathertwentyfive.com
- 00:50:58.778 --> 00:51:00.480
- And you can see the way that god could use you in
- 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.950
- This story, in this moment in time.
- 00:51:03.950 --> 00:51:05.986
- It's historic.
- 00:51:05.986 --> 00:51:07.120
- The church has never been able to gather like this
- 00:51:07.120 --> 00:51:08.955
- Before, but it's so much bigger than that.
- 00:51:08.955 --> 00:51:12.559
- The prayer of this whole thing is that every one
- 00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:14.928
- Of us would leave this gathering and believe
- 00:51:14.928 --> 00:51:18.031
- That god can use us in our places because we
- 00:51:18.031 --> 00:51:21.234
- Don't know when he's coming back.
- 00:51:21.234 --> 00:51:22.536
- And it could be in our lifetime.
- 00:51:22.536 --> 00:51:24.070
- And if he were to come back in our lifetime, i
- 00:51:24.070 --> 00:51:25.939
- Am this girl who thinks i just want to have left
- 00:51:25.939 --> 00:51:29.075
- Everything on the field.
- 00:51:29.075 --> 00:51:30.644
- I want to get to heaven.
- 00:51:30.644 --> 00:51:31.945
- And as much as it concerns me,
- 00:51:31.945 --> 00:51:34.848
- I'm out of breath.
- 00:51:34.848 --> 00:51:35.982
- And i'm like, i'm here.
- 00:51:35.982 --> 00:51:37.551
- I did my best.
- 00:51:37.551 --> 00:51:38.718
- And he's like, yeah, i got you girl.
- 00:51:38.718 --> 00:51:40.020
- Thank you.
- 00:51:40.020 --> 00:51:41.188
- And that was fun, wasn't it?
- 00:51:41.188 --> 00:51:42.689
- I think that's how it's been.
- 00:51:42.689 --> 00:51:43.924
- And i think if there's one thing my story can do
- 00:51:43.924 --> 00:51:45.492
- To encourage you is that saying yes to god is
- 00:51:45.492 --> 00:51:48.161
- Scary as heck, but it is also, there is no other
- 00:51:48.161 --> 00:51:50.664
- Way you want to live.
- 00:51:50.664 --> 00:51:53.466
- It is so full of joy and so full of abundance and
- 00:51:53.466 --> 00:51:56.069
- I mean we both can't imagine any other way
- 00:51:56.069 --> 00:52:00.373
- Of living.
- 00:52:00.373 --> 00:52:01.675
- It has just been a wild, risky adventure.
- 00:52:01.675 --> 00:52:05.879
- Final thought.
- 00:52:05.879 --> 00:52:06.913
- Yeah.
- 00:52:06.913 --> 00:52:08.415
- I think of that one believer in a tough to
- 00:52:08.415 --> 00:52:13.453
- Reach country that's tuning in and says,
- 00:52:13.453 --> 00:52:17.290
- I'm all alone.
- 00:52:17.290 --> 00:52:18.858
- Or that widow that's in an apartment in america
- 00:52:18.858 --> 00:52:22.729
- And they don't have any community around them and
- 00:52:22.729 --> 00:52:26.199
- They're discouraged and in that closed country
- 00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:29.202
- That that guy says here, it may not be hard to
- 00:52:29.202 --> 00:52:33.707
- Become a christian, but because of the
- 00:52:33.707 --> 00:52:35.609
- Persecution, it's really hard to stay a christian.
- 00:52:35.609 --> 00:52:38.311
- We want that guy watching,
- 00:52:38.311 --> 00:52:42.015
- Those people watching to be encouraged like you are
- 00:52:42.015 --> 00:52:45.552
- On the winning team and god is on the move
- 00:52:45.552 --> 00:52:48.655
- All around you.
- 00:52:48.655 --> 00:52:51.291
- Let's be obedient in our places
- 00:52:51.291 --> 00:52:53.159
- And watch god work.
- 00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:54.995
- There are more for us than against us.
- 00:52:54.995 --> 00:52:56.763
- That's right.
- 00:52:56.763 --> 00:52:58.031
- We're going to prove that on february 28th at 8:00 pm.
- 00:52:58.031 --> 00:53:00.667
- That's when it starts. all the next day.
- 00:53:00.667 --> 00:53:03.169
- There's a whole bunch of information that you're
- 00:53:03.169 --> 00:53:05.405
- Going to get about this.
- 00:53:05.405 --> 00:53:06.940
- We're encouraged to be a part of gather 25.
- 00:53:06.940 --> 00:53:08.275
- Thank you guys.
- 00:53:08.275 --> 00:53:09.442
- Great to be here.
- 00:53:09.442 --> 00:53:10.477
- I'm so excited.
- 00:53:10.477 --> 00:53:11.278
- Let's do it.
- 00:53:11.278 --> 00:53:11.911
- See you next time.
- 00:53:11.911 --> 00:53:12.545
- Bye-bye.
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- ♪♪
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