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Remember the Music

The Male Vocal Groups | Remember the Music

November 17, 2025 | S1 E4 | 25:0

The Male Vocal Groups | Remember the Music
The Male Vocal Groups chronicles CCM legendary groups Phillips Craig and Dean and 4Him's early days, to them exploding on the music scene becoming icons.
#WordofGod #Worship #Praise #Artist/Artistic #Music #Musician #Blessing #PersonalStory #JaciVelasquez #RandyPhillips #ShawnCraig #DanDean #4Him

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Remember the Music | The Male Vocal Groups | Remember the Music | November 17, 2025
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  • >>well, we survived.
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  • [chuckles] >>yeah. we didn't kill one another. >>yeah. i
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  • Think getting through truth is like a survival story.
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  • >>oh,yeah. >>the owner of the group, roger breland, probably
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  • Doesn't like to hear that, but, yeah, 1,000 concerts in 3 years,
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  • 3 ? years. >>it was, yeah, a little more.
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  • [music]
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  • Jaci velasquez: hello my name is jaci velasquez
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  • And i'd like to
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  • Welcome you to this episode of remember the music, featuring
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  • Phillips, craig and dean and ‘4him'. in 1987 kirk sullivan,
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  • Mark harris, andy chrisman, and marty magehee met while on the
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  • Road with the legendary vocal group ‘truth'. they not only did
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  • 350 gigs a year but learned how to drive the bus, be their own
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  • Roadie, set up lights sound, and well, you name it, the band did
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  • At all. it was a great learning experience and they had their
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  • Chops up when record executive jerry parks from benson records
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  • Saw them on tour with ‘truth' and quickly signed the quartet
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  • To a recording contract. it wasn't long before they were
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  • Leaving their mark on ccm history with 10 dove awards and
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  • 27 #1 hits. 4him's 1st album was about to come out, but the
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  • Trouble was they still needed a name and they were still
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  • Finishing their tour with truth at the time. >>actuall, we had a
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  • Contest on the truth bus, and basically, it was just to try to
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  • Have someone come up with an idea of what that name should
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  • Be. >>dave mason. >>dave mantini, one of our trumpet
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  • Players and truth. >>”tini”. who we've not seen to this day. >>he
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  • Came up with the name for him and how much were we supposed to
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  • Pay? >>it was a $50 prize. >>$50 prize. >>we never paid it.
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  • [laughter] >>of course, back then, >>david, if you're
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  • Watching, >>yeah, dave mantini, we're sorry. >>we're sorry!
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  • >>yeah, but when he threw it out, we were all kind of like,
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  • Saying, what about for him. we were like, no, no, no. >>well,
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  • Before they would let us sign the contract, they said you have
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  • To have a name. >>yeah, that was my memory. >>and we were just
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  • Like. >>they bring in the contract and nobody has, well,
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  • This is what we're gonna call ourselves. and i remember he
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  • Goes, pick it, pick it now. [chuckles. >>i guess we're gonna
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  • Be 4him. [laughter] >>i wish there as a better story. >>but
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  • The first single that really kind of hit it was a song
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  • Written by billy simon. and here's the thing about “where
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  • There's faith”, and that song had been turned down by several
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  • Artists, and that song kind of, going to radio while we were
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  • Still on the truth bus. so we're on the truth bus and the song
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  • Kind of takes this quick journey to #1 and stays there for a
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  • While, and no one knows who these 4 guys are because you
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  • Can't see them in concert because we're hidden within the
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  • Fabric of truth. and so it's this mystery that builds. our
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  • Calendar, booking wise, was packed the first year. before we
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  • Ever stepped out of truth we had 250 dates on the book. >>and a
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  • #1 song. >>and what's funny is because we did 350 concerts a
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  • Year in truth, we thought, man, 250 dates it's not enough. we
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  • Need to fill this calendar. [chuckles] we didn't know
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  • Better. >>yeah, went from 27 people to 4. >>yeah. >>it was a
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  • Lot of work. >>okay, we're slowing this way down. and then
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  • We changed gears and we got the schedule kind of under wraps the
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  • 2nd year of touring. >>we were still, in the beginning, we were
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  • Still driving, we were, each of us, we were still driving the
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  • Bus and we were setting our stuff up until we got smart,
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  • >>it's glamorous. >>and hired a bus driver. >>and truth was a
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  • Church group. i mean, it was an evangelical church group. it was
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  • All designed to be very palatable on sunday mornings,
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  • Sunday nights, or if you wanted to bring your friends to a
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  • Weeknight concert. and all the songs were about jesus pretty
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  • Much all the way through. and there was always an invitation
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  • Given, >>absolutely. >>and that really set a mindset in us when
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  • We hit the road as 4him in ‘90 that we would always give an
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  • Invitation no matter where we were. we wanted not just to sing
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  • Great songs and have people, you know, ooh, and aah over our
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  • Music, we wanted people to experience jesus in the
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  • Concerts. and you really can't finish that thought without
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  • Giving people an opportunity to come forward and accept jesus
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  • Christ as their savior. so i think of anything that we could
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  • Probably be proud of that we did over those years i think is that
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  • We stay true to that. well, you're gonna hear 2 songs that,
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  • I don't know, have been pretty much bedrocks of our career
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  • “basics of life” and “for future generations”. and you know, it's
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  • Funny there are lyrics on the prompter for us, like, i don't
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  • Need these, i've been singing these songs for almost 20 years
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  • Now. it's amazing how fresh they still feel; that the lyrics
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  • Associated with them are still, they're valid today. >>yeah, how
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  • Current they are today. >>yeah, and especially with what our
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  • Nation's going through, what families are going through in
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  • This country, songs like “for future generations” and “the
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  • Basics of life”, i think still our applicable today. and that's
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  • Exciting, to be a part of something that's not just for
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  • That time but it's also for this time.
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  • [music]
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  • ♪ if we could find a way ♪
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  • ♪ to preserve our faith ♪
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  • ♪ so those who follow us ♪
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  • ♪ see the price that was paid ♪
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  • ♪ then maybe when they question ♪
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  • ♪ what it's gonna take to survive ♪
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  • ♪ they'll find the strength to carry on ♪
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  • ♪ and what we leave behind ♪
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  • ♪ so i won't bend and i won't break ♪
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  • ♪ i won't water down my faith ♪
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  • ♪ i won't compromise in a world of desperation ♪
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  • ♪ ‘cause what has been i cannot change ♪
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  • ♪ but for tomorrow and today ♪
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  • ♪ i must be a light for future generations ♪
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  • ♪ oh i must be a light for future generations ♪
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  • [music]
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  • ♪ we've turned the page ♪
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  • ♪ for a new day has gone ♪
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  • ♪ we've rearranged ♪
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  • ♪ what is right and what's wrong ♪
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  • ♪ and somehow we've drifted so far from the truth ♪
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  • ♪ that we can't get back home ♪
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  • ♪ oh, oh we need to get back to the basics of life ♪
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  • ♪ a heart that is pure ♪
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  • ♪ and love that is blind
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  • ♪ a faith that is fervently grounded in christ ♪
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  • ♪ the hope that endures for all time ♪
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  • ♪ oh, oh and these are the basics ♪
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  • ♪ we need to get back to the basics ♪
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  • ♪ we need to get back to the basics of life ♪
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  • ♪ [the basics of life]
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  • ♪ a heart that is pure ♪
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  • ♪ and a love that
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  • ♪ but you've gotta have a faith ♪
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  • ♪ a faith that is fervently grounded ♪
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  • ♪ grounded in christ
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  • ♪ a hope that endures for all time ♪
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  • ♪ oh, oh these are the basics ♪
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  • ♪ we need to get to the basics of life ♪
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  • ♪ we need to get to the basics of life ♪
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  • [music]
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  • Jaci velasquez: welcome back! randy
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  • Phillips, shawn craig, and dan dean were friends long before
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  • They formed their trio. after more than two decades together
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  • They have successfully pulled double duty in parallel
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  • Locations; serving as full-time lead pastors, randy phillips in
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  • Austin, shawn craig in st. louis, and dan dean in dallas.
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  • And as full-time recording artists. in 1991 randy made a
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  • Solo album that legendary record executive jeff mosley, from star
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  • Song, heard and the label asked randy could he form a trio and
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  • Do a showcase. randy thought of his two buddies that were also
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  • Pastors, gave them a call and, as you know, the rest is
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  • History. they've gone on to win 3 dove awards and write 23 #1
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  • Singles, all while leading the vision for their respective
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  • Church and congregation as lead pastors. >>we started out sort
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  • Of with the goal of, well, let's make this project and see if we
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  • Can sell enough to pay for it. and we just heard last week
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  • We've almost paid for it. [laughter] >>just about
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  • Recouped. >>almost recouped. >>just about recouped. well,we
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  • Started in the church and that's really where we learned to sing.
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  • A lot of guys in our position, that's where they got their
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  • Start and that was us as well, singing during altar calls, and
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  • Leading song service. and that's really the roots of our
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  • Three-part harmony was church, but we never left church work,
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  • Pastoring. a lot of groups moved to nashville, and that works for
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  • Them, but for us, we stayed in our same cities and commuted and
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  • Did the tours and then went back home on the weekends. and now
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  • We're lead pastors. >>and being a pastor now, we would have
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  • Fired the guys that worked for us, [chuckles] >>yeah. >>i would
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  • Have fired me. >>i would have fired us. i would have fired me.
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  • >>we would have. >>for being gone so much. but i think our
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  • Pastors did have the, just the godly character to recognize
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  • That god was doing something special >>yeah. >>with us, and
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  • Gave us the liberty that; it's unbelievable, looking back, that
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  • They allowed us to have that much liberty. we'd be sometimes
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  • On the road for a 40 day tour and fly in on sunday to lead
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  • Worship and then fly back out on monday. but it's been an amazing
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  • Journey. well, i've made a solo album and it went aluminum.
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  • [laughter] >>thanks to his family. >>yeah. a record company
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  • Called star song heard my album and brought me to nashville and
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  • Said let's talk to you about, you know, signing you. then the
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  • More they talked to me they said, you know, you need to form
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  • A group. [laughter] >>you need some help! >>you need a little
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  • Help. so i went back home; i thought form a group. who would
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  • That be? so these two guys were great friends of mine, would
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  • Come to my church, lead our choir; just loved interacting
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  • With them. i thought there's good chemistry there. there's
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  • Good character there. good character. >>didn't know how we
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  • Sounded together, >>no. but i knew they were highly musical.
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  • They were great writers. they already had-their songs were
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  • Being already covered here in nashville, a lot of groups, so
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  • We thought we would give it a try. we met in dallas. we put
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  • Three songs on a cassette, sent them to star song and they said
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  • Come up and do a concert. we said we know three songs. they
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  • Said, well, do 10. it was a scramble. we tried to pull it
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  • Off. it was, >>pretty pitiful. >>awful. >>and, ah, they saw
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  • Something that night. >>i don't know what they saw. >>we
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  • Actually did the showcase. we left that night and i remember
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  • Sitting in a restaurant eating, shaking our heads going, well,
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  • It was a good try. [chuckles] >>yeah, good try. >>it was a
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  • Really good try. and two weeks later they called and said let's
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  • Do an album. >>and honestly, the songs weren't awesome, but there
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  • Was just something about them that was kind of like an
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  • Everyday man type approach that i thought would relate really
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  • Well to people. >>i would say for the most part we write with
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  • Other people. i do think, this last project randy and i wrote a
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  • Couple songs together, but the ideas for the song, i think,
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  • That make us, maybe, a little unique, come from the stories
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  • That are born out of the congregations that we are a part
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  • Of. >>yeah, out of life. >>and we have so many people who walk
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  • Through incredible life experiences. and if you listen
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  • And are watching the nuggets are there. you have to just, just be
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  • Listening.
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  • [music]
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  • ♪ you are not a god created by human hands ♪
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  • ♪ and you are not a god dependent ♪
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  • ♪ on any mortal man ♪
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  • ♪ you are not a god in need of ♪
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  • ♪ anything we can give ♪
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  • ♪ by your plan that's just the way it is ♪
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  • ♪ you are not a god created by human hands ♪
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  • ♪ and you are not a god dependent ♪
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  • ♪ on any mortal man
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  • ♪ you are not a god in need of anything we can give ♪
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  • ♪ by your plan that's just the way it is ♪
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  • ♪ you are god alone
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  • ♪ from before time began ♪
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  • ♪ you were on your throne ♪
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  • ♪ and you are god alone
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  • ♪ and right now ♪
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  • ♪ in the good times and bad ♪
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  • ♪ you are on your throne
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  • ♪ and you are god alone ♪
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  • ♪ you're unchangeable unshakable ♪
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  • ♪ unstoppable that's what you are ♪
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  • ♪ yes, you are
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  • ♪ you're unchangeable unshakable ♪
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  • ♪ unstoppable that's what you are ♪
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  • ♪ you are god alone
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  • ♪ from before time began
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  • ♪ you were on your throne ♪
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  • ♪ and you are god alone ♪
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  • ♪ right now in the good times and bad ♪
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  • ♪ you are on the throne ♪
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  • ♪ and you are god alone ♪
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  • [music]
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  • Jaci velasquez: as god gave phillips, craig and dean an
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  • International platform, they've endeavored to touch the body of
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  • Christ with worshipful songs that help people get through
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  • Difficult times and encourage them to stay focused on jesus
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  • And all he has done for us; to be ever in love with jesus.
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  • Being on the road together, they understand each other because
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  • They understand the blessing and challenge of full-time ministry.
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  • >>what can i say? a side blessing that we really didn't
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  • Anticipate was this idea of we're brothers and we're in
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  • Ministry. we're actually three pastors, different churches,
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  • Different cities, and the side benefit is that we can actually
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  • Share each other's burdens a bit, and talk about, you know,
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  • This is what's going on in the church, and i think i wanted to
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  • Quit this week. but yet we're able to, and we've each been at
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  • Those low places. >>i resigned last week. [chuckles] >>i pretty
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  • Much resign every every monday. [laughter] >>so this other
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  • Pressure of that, it's nice to come on the road and know that
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  • These guys understand what you just went through last sunday
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  • And the weight of that, the burden of that. but also sharing
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  • The victories. and it's not all glamour, but it's not all
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  • Heaviness and burden. it really is a great life. the opportunity
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  • To sing, get to do what we do after 24 years, still be
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  • Friends, still you know, not wanting to kill each other.
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  • God's really been good to us. >>because we have our roots in
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  • The church and we work at a church, the pressure that a lot
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  • Of artists face, we've got to book dates, we've gotta get on
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  • The road, >>gotta have a #1 or we're gonna die. >>you know, we
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  • We don't feel that because we have another life. it's not like
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  • Either is a side job. it doesn't feel that way. they're both very
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  • Important, but i'm sure we don't feel the stress and pressure
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  • That a lot of artists do that, you know, you've got to stay
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  • Busy and stay on the road and travel. and you know, it's a
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  • Blessing. it's a blessing to be able to go home and i'm gonna be
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  • Here for two weeks straight, and focus on, you know, pouring your
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  • Energies there. then it's also a blessing for my wife, really,
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  • She'll say it's about time for y'all to go on the road, huh?
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  • It's been a while. [chuckles] >>don't you have somewhere to
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  • Sing? >>the songs that we've written for many years are born
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  • Out of experience that we've witnessed, that we've seen. we
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  • Just kind of mind those diamonds. and there's somebody,
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  • We know that as we've traveled around the country for almost 25
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  • Years now, that there's somebody in that audience who is going
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  • Through a divorce, or has contemplated suicide, is in
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  • Horrible depression, has children that are making choices
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  • That are breaking their hearts. for an hour and a half, two
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  • Hours, they want to escape that. where could we, where could we
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  • Take them? our only hope is to take them to the throne room and
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  • Let god just bathe them with his love, to whisper peace to them,
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  • And to give them hope. so if our songs are able to do that, we
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  • Praise god. >>you know, with those guys, i mean, they've had,
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  • Like, 9 lives. and i think they have 9 lives because they're
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  • Just so relatable and they had a lot of great songs. >>well,
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  • These are truly, truly great men with great hearts for ministry.
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  • And it's just, it's an honor to have worked with them in any
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  • Stage of my career. and i don't know that the industry or the
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  • Market is through hearing from phillips, craig and dean. i
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  • Think they will find a way to reach an audience. >>i think
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  • They're always gonna be around and, you know, because they're
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  • Full-time pastors, they only do about 15-20 shows a year, which
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  • Is typically a recipe for disaster. but with these guys,
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  • Somehow the scarcity has helped them, in god's unique economy.
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  • And so, >>it's good. >>they'll be around for a long time. jacki
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  • Velasquez: thank you so much for joining us. we hope you've been
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  • Uplifted and encouraged hearing the passionate heart and journey
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  • Of our featured artists and remembering the music of two of
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  • Ccms greatest male vocal groups of all time: phillips, craig and
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  • Dean, and 4him. please join us next time for more amazing
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  • Stories about your favorite legendary ccm artists. god bless
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  • You and we'll see you soon!
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  • [music]
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  • ♪ worthy is the lamb who was slain ♪
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  • ♪ holy holy is he
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  • ♪ sing a new song to him who sits on ♪
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  • ♪ heaven's mercy seat
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  • [music]
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  • ♪ holy, holy, holy
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  • ♪ is the lord god almighty ♪
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  • ♪ who was and is and is to come ♪
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  • ♪ with all creation i sing ♪
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  • ♪ praise to the king of kings ♪
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  • ♪ you are my everything ♪
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  • ♪ and i will adore you ♪
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  • [music]
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  • ♪ we sing holy lord ♪
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  • [music]
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  • ♪ filled with wonder awestruck wonder ♪
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  • ♪ at the mention of your name ♪
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  • ♪ jesus, your name is power ♪
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  • ♪ breathe and living water ♪
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  • ♪ such a marvelous mystery yeah, yeah ♪
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  • ♪ holy, holy, holy
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  • ♪ is the lord god almighty ♪
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  • ♪ who was and is and is to come ♪
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  • ♪ with all creation i sing ♪
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  • ♪ praise to the king of kings ♪
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  • ♪ you are my everything and i will adore you ♪
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  • ♪ holy, holy, holy ♪
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  • ♪ is the lord god almighty ♪
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  • ♪ who was and is and is to come ♪
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  • ♪ with all creation i sing ♪
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  • ♪ praise to the king of kings ♪
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  • ♪ you are my everything ♪
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  • ♪ and i will adore you ♪
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  • ♪ we sing holy lord
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  • ♪ we sing holy lord ♪
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  • ♪ we sing holy lord
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  • [music] [applause]
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