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Rick Warren - We Are Disciples (Part 2)

October 19, 2025 | 27:29

Rick Warren - We Are Disciples (Part 2)
Pastor Rick shares biblical truth and practical tools for living the full life God desires for everyone.
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Rick Warren | Rick Warren - We Are Disciples (Part 2) | October 19, 2025
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  • Pastor rick warren: have you ever heard anybody say this?
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  • "you know, i love jesus; i just don't like the church.
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  • I love jesus; i just can't stand the church."
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  • Then let me tell you something, you're not a disciple.
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  • Because with all of its imperfections, all of its
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  • Faults, all of its faux pas and failures, because it's made up
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  • Of normal, ordinary, imperfect people, jesus says, "the
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  • Church matters."
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  • Christ died for the church.
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  • In fact, it's the only thing that's gonna last on
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  • This planet.
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  • Microsoft isn't gonna last.
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  • The democratic and republican parties aren't gonna last.
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  • The united states of america isn't gonna last.
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  • No empire lasts forever.
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  • There's only one thing that's gonna last for eternity, that is
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  • God's family, the church.
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  • You're in it.
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  • It's the only thing that's gonna last.
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  • It's more important than everything else put together
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  • Because god created the universe because he wanted a family.
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  • And so if you don't love the church, you're not gonna like
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  • Heaven, because that's all who's gonna be there.
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  • So you better figure out how to learn to love other disciples.
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  • Now jesus died for the church.
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  • The bible calls the church the bride of christ.
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  • How about if i said to you, "i like you.
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  • I just can't stand your wife."
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  • You'd be--you'd be irritated, you'd be offended, you'd have a
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  • Right to be.
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  • Or the bible says the church is the body of christ.
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  • How about if i said, "i like you, but your body's not
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  • Too hot."
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  • Well, you'd be offended.
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  • When you say i don't like the church, you're saying i don't
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  • Like the body of christ that jesus died for.
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  • Now, this is absolutely ridiculous.
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  • People think that they can follow christ and not love
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  • The church.
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  • They're wrong.
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  • In fact, here's what the bible says, 1 john chapter 4: "if
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  • Someone says, 'i love god,' but hates a christian brother or
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  • Sister, that person is a liar!"
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  • That's pretty clear.
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  • God says i'm a liar if i say i love god and don't love
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  • Other christians.
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  • "for if we don't love people we can see, how can we love god,
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  • Whom we have not seen?"
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  • Well, duh.
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  • He says this is obvious.
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  • "and so to be my disciple, you must love other people in the
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  • Family of god."
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  • This is called fellowship.
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  • I want you to write this down.
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  • Spiritual growth happens in community.
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  • It doesn't happen on your own.
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  • It doesn't--you cannot be a disciple by yourself.
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  • You cannot be a disciple in isolation.
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  • You cannot follow christ as an individual.
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  • "me and jesus, we got a good thing going.
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  • We don't need anybody else.
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  • We can attain maturity on your own."
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  • No, you will never grow to spiritual maturity without a
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  • Church family.
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  • The bible teaches that.
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  • In fact, notice that verse, he says, "if you have love for
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  • One another."
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  • Circle the phrase, "one another."
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  • That phrase is used 58 times in the bible.
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  • It says we are to love one another, care for one another,
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  • Help one another, serve one another, encourage one another,
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  • Pray for one another.
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  • We are to support one another, we're to greet one another.
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  • We are to encourage one another.
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  • The bible says we were put on this planet to help each other
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  • Out in the family of god.
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  • And you have to have a christian church family and be in
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  • Relationship with people because life is all about love.
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  • Now you may be listening to ten radio preachers a day.
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  • And there are a lot of good ones out there.
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  • Some of them are my friends, actually, but if you're
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  • Listening to all those guys, you're not growing, you're
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  • Getting more knowledge, but you're not growing, because life
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  • Is all about love.
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  • It's all about love.
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  • It's learning to love god and learning to love your neighbor
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  • As yourself.
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  • Life is all about learning to love god.
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  • This is what makes it--what makes having a relationship with
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  • Jesus different than religion.
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  • Did you know that every single religion, the more you isolate
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  • Yourself from humanity, the more holy you're considered to be.
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  • Whether it's buddhism, hinduism, islam, or anything else, the
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  • Holiest people are those who go off into the--the monks in the
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  • Monasteries or the gurus who hide in the caves in the
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  • Mountain who separate themselves from sinful humanity so they
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  • Can't become impure by all of us who are evil, wicked, mean, bad,
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  • And nasty.
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  • And so the more holy you are, the more you separate yourself
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  • From earth and from other people.
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  • That is the exact opposite of what jesus taught.
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  • Jesus didn't do that.
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  • Jesus was in the marketplace.
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  • Jesus went to the parties.
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  • Jesus was at the wedding, turning water to wine.
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  • In fact, jesus went to so many parties, the legalistic
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  • Religious leaders of the day said he is a, quote, "glutton"
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  • And a "drunk."
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  • Today, they would say jesus is a party animal.
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  • That's what they'd say, because jesus taught you can't learn to
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  • Love unless you're around people.
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  • Now, you could go and hide in a monastery and read prayer books
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  • All day, and you could quote scripture, and you can pray and
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  • You can study till your brain is so packed with theology, but
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  • You're not spiritually mature because jesus said it's all
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  • About love.
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  • Loving god and loving your neighbor, and you can't do that
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  • Unless you get around some unlovely people.
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  • But don't look at them right now.
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  • But god says, "i measure maturity by how much you love."
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  • Not by knowledge, but how much you love.
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  • And this is called radical fellowship.
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  • And jesus expects us to have a very radical kind of love, more
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  • Than the world.
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  • In fact, look at the next verse, 1 john 3:16: "this is how we
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  • Know what love is," what real love is.
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  • "jesus christ laid down his life for us.
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  • And we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers."
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  • Talking about brothers and sisters in the family of god,
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  • Other christians.
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  • Jesus laid down his life for us, and god says, i measure your
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  • Love by how much you're willing to sacrifice for other
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  • Christians, for other believers, for other people in the family.
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  • This is radical fellowship.
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  • The word in greek is the word "koinonia," fellowship.
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  • And fellowship is being as committed to each other as we
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  • Are to jesus christ.
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  • That's what it means to be a disciple.
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  • Not, "oh, i love god and i couldn't care less about
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  • The church."
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  • No, god says, if you love me, you love my family.
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  • I'd tell you that.
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  • I'd say you can't love me and not love my family because my
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  • Family represents me.
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  • And we only grow in community, being as committed to each other
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  • As we are to jesus.
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  • This is why being in a small group is absolutely essential to
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  • Your spiritual growth.
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  • Number four, jesus says if i want to be a disciple, i must
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  • Always do what jesus tells me.
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  • That's the mark of a disciple.
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  • I must always do what jesus tells me.
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  • It may not make sense, it may not be popular, it may cost me
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  • Something, but it's always the right thing because god's not
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  • Gonna steer you in the wrong direction.
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  • God tells you to do something, it's always the right thing
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  • To do.
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  • And he's saying that one of the marks of discipleship is i must
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  • Obey him continually.
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  • I must always do what he tells me to do.
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  • John chapter 8, let's read this verse aloud together, okay?
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  • "if you continue to obey my teaching, you are truly
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  • My disciples.
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  • Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set
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  • You free."
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  • Now, everybody in america knows this phrase, "the truth will set
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  • You free."
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  • Most americans don't know the first part of the verse.
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  • He says, "if you continue to obey my teaching, then you're
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  • Truly my disciple."
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  • Now notice he's saying here three or four things about
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  • Spiritual growth that are very important.
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  • You might write these down.
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  • The first thing i want you to notice is spiritual growth is an
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  • Ongoing process.
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  • It is an ongoing process.
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  • It's gonna take the rest of your life, and that's why you've got
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  • Your whole life to grow up spiritually, but it--you're
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  • Never gonna stop learning.
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  • He says, "if you continue--" circle the word "continue."
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  • He says it's a process, it's ongoing.
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  • Spiritual growth is not, well, i go to class and then now i'm
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  • Spiritually mature.
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  • No, it's a process, it's a development, it's incremental,
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  • It's gradual, and it's gonna take the rest of your life.
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  • The rest of your life.
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  • We go through a step-by-step process and it's one step at
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  • A time.
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  • You know, i learned this growing up.
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  • My dad was a pastor.
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  • And so i knew my dad, he was a great teacher, but i noticed
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  • That people could go to church for 20 years or 30 years or 40
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  • Years, and still be spiritually immature.
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  • And i thought, how can that be?
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  • I mean, they're hearing all this good teaching and yet, they're
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  • Not grown up.
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  • They're still cranky, they're still self-centered, they're
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  • Still gossips, they're still resentful and bitter, and they
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  • Worry and they feel guilty and they--they're insecure and they
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  • Still got all their hang-ups and they don't seem to be growing up
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  • And spiritually maturing.
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  • Why is that?
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  • And the reason why is because we forget what we learn.
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  • Studies have shown over and over, the first one was the us
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  • Air force that discovered this.
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  • We forget 90% to 95% of everything we hear within
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  • 72 hours.
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  • And if you had heard me teach for 30 years at saddleback, you
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  • Have forgotten 95% of it.
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  • It takes more than sermons to grow.
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  • Sermons are not enough to grow because we forget, which, by the
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  • Way, is why we pass out these little things.
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  • Because the shortest pencil is longer than the longest memory,
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  • And if you take notes, you're at least gonna have something you
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  • Can go home and you can review it again.
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  • You see, if you don't take notes, you don't remember what i
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  • Taught on last week.
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  • Shoot, i don't remember what i taught on last week.
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  • And i taught it six times.
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  • You had to listen to it once, okay?
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  • And i've already forgotten what i taught on, so it's not like
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  • It's not normal.
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  • If you don't take notes, if you don't care enough to learn what
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  • God wants you to learn, to write it down, then you're not
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  • Gonna grow.
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  • And at the end of this year, of all the teaching you'll hear at
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  • Saddleback, you'll only remember maybe 5% of it.
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  • And that's why we don't grow up.
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  • So we have to--to continue, we have to have ways of
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  • Remembering it.
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  • Now, the bible teaches that it is an ongoing process,
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  • Spiritual growth.
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  • Second thing, notice, it's measured by obedience.
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  • He says, "if you continue to obey my teaching, then you're
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  • My disciple."
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  • It's not based on how much you know, it's on how much you
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  • Practice, how much you obey.
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  • There are a lot of people who know the bible, but they don't
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  • Live it.
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  • Sometimes you can meet people who are veritable storehouses of
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  • Bible knowledge, and they can quote bible verses, and they're
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  • The most cranky, cantankerous, arguing people, judgmental of
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  • Every other christian.
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  • Because the bible says knowledge puffs up, love builds up.
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  • The more knowledge you have, the more arrogant you tend to become
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  • If you don't have love to match it and keep it in a
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  • Humble attitude.
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  • Knowledge without love leads to arrogance.
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  • So god says, "i don't measure your growth by how much
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  • You know.
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  • I measure your growth by how much you love, how much you love
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  • Others, how much do you love me."
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  • And he says you've got to have-- it's how much you obey.
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  • In fact, would you write this sentence down?
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  • "i only believe the part of the bible i do."
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  • I only believe the part of the bible i actually practice.
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  • Now you may say you believe it, but if you don't do it, you
  • 00:12:28.764 --> 00:12:30.699
  • Don't really believe it.
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  • "do you believe that you should forgive
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  • The people who hurt you?"
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  • "yes." "do you do it?"
  • 00:12:34.703 --> 00:12:36.038
  • "no." "then i don't believe it."
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  • "do you--do you believe that you should always
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  • Return good for evil?"
  • 00:12:40.176 --> 00:12:42.778
  • "yes." "do you do it?"
  • 00:12:42.778 --> 00:12:44.113
  • "no." "then you don't believe it."
  • 00:12:44.113 --> 00:12:45.447
  • "do you believe you should tithe?"
  • 00:12:45.447 --> 00:12:46.782
  • "yes." "do you do it?"
  • 00:12:46.782 --> 00:12:48.117
  • "no." "then you don't believe it."
  • 00:12:48.117 --> 00:12:49.518
  • "you believe you should share your faith with other people?"
  • 00:12:49.518 --> 00:12:51.120
  • "yes." "do you do it?"
  • 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:52.454
  • "no." "then you don't believe it."
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  • You only believe the part that you actually do.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Announcer: do you want to be happier, healthier, and more
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  • Resistant to stress?
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  • Then you need to develop an attitude of gratitude.
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  • In fact, the bible says we're to rejoice always, pray
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  • Continually, and give thanks in all circumstances, but it can be
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  • Difficult to feel grateful.
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  • So to help you, pastor rick hand-selected 52 verses to
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  • Bolster your sense of gratitude and increase your happiness.
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  • This set of beautifully designed cards will help you memorize
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  • Scripture so you can recall god's word when you need
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  • It most.
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  • You can also use them to minister to others, give one to
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  • A friend and write a personalized note of
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  • Encouragement on the back.
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  • If a scripture really speaks to you, frame it, put them in
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  • Places where you can read them during the day
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  • For encouragement.
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  • And today, when you give a gift to help "daily hope" take the
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  • Hope of jesus to a world in need, we'll send you the
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  • Gratitude scripture card set to say thanks.
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  • Pastor rick: now, spiritual growth is an ongoing process.
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  • It's measured by obedience.
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  • It's based on god's word.
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  • That's the third thing this verse teaches.
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  • "if you continue to obey my teaching."
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  • Now there are a lot of books out there you can read that are
  • 00:14:26.382 --> 00:14:28.250
  • Good, and they may be positive, motivational, and they may be,
  • 00:14:28.250 --> 00:14:31.487
  • You know, teach you management skills, but it's not human ideas
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  • That's gonna help you grow spiritually.
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  • It's not philosophy or man's philosophy or pop psychology
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  • That's gonna teach you to grow spiritually.
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  • It is the truth.
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  • We must feed on the truth.
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  • It's soul food, it's the truth.
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  • Now the fourth thing that verse teaches is that it sets me free.
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  • That spiritual growth sets me free.
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  • The truth will set me free.
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  • But what does that mean, set me free?
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  • The more you grow spiritually, the freer you're gonna be
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  • In life.
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  • You're gonna be set free from the expectations of others.
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  • You're gonna be set free from past memories that bother you,
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  • You're set free from guilt, you're set free from resentment,
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  • You're set free from bad habits, you're set free from shame,
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  • You're set free from the pressures and stresses that
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  • Other people try to put on you, because the more you mature
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  • Spiritually, the freer you are.
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  • The more you grow spiritually, you don't become more religious
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  • Fanatic, you become more natural.
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  • The glory of god as a human being fully alive.
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  • And the people who are most fully alive in life are those
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  • Who love jesus the most, love other people the most, and are
  • 00:15:42.358 --> 00:15:46.195
  • Growing in the word of god.
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  • The more mature you come, you're free from fear, you're free from
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  • Anxiety, you're free from insecurity, the truth sets
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  • You free.
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  • Now it doesn't happen overnight.
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  • Look at this verse on the screen.
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  • "our lives are gradually becoming brighter."
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  • Notice it's gradually, it's a process, step by step.
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  • "more and more beautiful as god enters our lives and we become
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  • More like him."
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  • That's called radical discipleship, becoming
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  • Like jesus.
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  • And that's the third goal of life, to love god, to love other
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  • People, to become like jesus.
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  • That's the third goal, the third purpose of life.
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  • Now, how do you do that?
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  • How do i grow gradually?
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  • Well, look at the next verse.
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  • Here's what jesus says: "if you continue to live in me," circle
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  • The word "continue."
  • 00:16:37.746 --> 00:16:39.448
  • That's an ongoing process.
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  • "if you continue to live in me and what i say lives in you,"
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  • Continues in you, "then you can ask anything you want, and it'll
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  • Be yours."
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  • That's quite a promise in prayer.
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  • Said if you're living in me and my word's living in you, you can
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  • Ask for whatever you want, it'll be yours.
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  • "you give glory to my father when you produce a lot of fruit
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  • And therefore show that you're my disciples."
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  • Now he says you gotta continue.
  • 00:17:06.975 --> 00:17:09.645
  • It's a process, it's a strategy, it's a journey.
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  • If you're gonna continue to grow the rest of your life, and
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  • That's what i'm trying to help you do, you're gonna need a
  • 00:17:14.817 --> 00:17:17.219
  • Couple things.
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  • First, you need a plan.
  • 00:17:18.587 --> 00:17:20.956
  • You need a track to run on, you need a pathway, you need some
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  • Guidelines, you need a trail, you need a process.
  • 00:17:25.461 --> 00:17:30.632
  • Jesus had a plan for helping his disciples grow from immaturity
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  • To spiritual maturity.
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  • And he starts off where they were, not where they ought
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  • To be.
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  • He starts off where they are, he loves them, and he takes them
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  • Through each step to growth.
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  • Now, when they're growing, he loves them at every stage.
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  • Listen to this, jesus loves you, god loves you, at every stage of
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  • Your maturity.
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  • He's not waiting for you to become mature before he starts
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  • Loving you.
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  • He loves you where you are right now.
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  • When my kids were little, amy, josh, matthew, they'd bring me
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  • Pictures when they're three, four years old, and i'd look at
  • 00:18:06.135 --> 00:18:08.337
  • That picture and i'd say, "amy, that picture is perfect."
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  • Now, what am i saying?
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  • That she's better than picasso?
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  • No.
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  • That it's mature?
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  • No, i'm saying that's perfect for that stage of
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  • Her development.
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  • And i'm not waiting for her to become a great painter before i
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  • Start loving her.
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  • I love her at every stage of her growth with my children, and
  • 00:18:27.422 --> 00:18:30.526
  • That's the way god loves you.
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  • He's not waiting for you to get mature before he loves you.
  • 00:18:32.361 --> 00:18:35.197
  • He loves you unconditionally right now, but he does want you
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  • To grow.
  • 00:18:38.834 --> 00:18:40.169
  • And you need a pathway.
  • 00:18:40.169 --> 00:18:42.037
  • Jesus had a plan, and that pathway was teaching his
  • 00:18:42.037 --> 00:18:45.274
  • Disciples first to know him and then to love him, and then to
  • 00:18:45.274 --> 00:18:51.713
  • Grow in him, and then to serve him, and then to share him.
  • 00:18:51.713 --> 00:18:57.686
  • Now, what i just shared with you, that one sentence, is the
  • 00:18:57.686 --> 00:19:00.756
  • Whole philosophy behind saddleback church.
  • 00:19:00.756 --> 00:19:03.392
  • Everything in this church helps people move through those five
  • 00:19:03.392 --> 00:19:07.396
  • Stages, those five purposes.
  • 00:19:07.396 --> 00:19:08.864
  • First, to know christ.
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  • Then we want you, once you know him, then you can love him
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  • Because you can't love him until you know him, and then you learn
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  • To love his family, and then you start growing in christ, and
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  • Then you start serving christ, and then you start
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  • Sharing christ.
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  • It's like a baby.
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  • A baby has to learn to breathe, then it learns to eat.
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  • Then it learns to walk and then it learns to talk.
  • 00:19:32.621 --> 00:19:38.460
  • We all grow at different stages and grades, but every one of us
  • 00:19:38.460 --> 00:19:42.364
  • Went through those exact same physical stages, and there are
  • 00:19:42.364 --> 00:19:46.034
  • Spiritual stages at--in spiritual growth too.
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  • And it's why we have a spiritually mature church
  • 00:19:50.205 --> 00:19:52.140
  • Because we're intentional about it.
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  • We've thought it through, and where did we learn it?
  • 00:19:54.243 --> 00:19:56.345
  • We learned it from jesus.
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  • And we just copied his plans, gradual, systematic, sequential.
  • 00:19:59.081 --> 00:20:03.118
  • Now, to help you visualize this, we use a baseball diamond.
  • 00:20:03.118 --> 00:20:08.190
  • If you've been in class 101, you remember the baseball diamond
  • 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:11.426
  • And each base represents a different stage of growth.
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  • First base, knowing christ and loving christ, being committed
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  • To him and his family.
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  • Second base, growing in christ.
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  • Third base, serving christ.
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  • Home plate, sharing christ.
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  • And we say we want you to cover all the bases.
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  • We want you to be a grand slam disciple.
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  • You don't get credit for runners left on base.
  • 00:20:36.385 --> 00:20:39.988
  • Some of you went to class 101, you got stuck at first base.
  • 00:20:39.988 --> 00:20:43.125
  • You need to go to class 201, second base, and learn the
  • 00:20:43.125 --> 00:20:46.261
  • Habits for spiritual growth.
  • 00:20:46.261 --> 00:20:48.563
  • Then some of you got stuck at second base.
  • 00:20:48.563 --> 00:20:50.098
  • You need to go to third base and learn how to discover your shape
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  • For serving god.
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  • Once you finish third base, you need to go on the home plate and
  • 00:20:55.237 --> 00:20:57.939
  • Learn how to live out your life mission in the world.
  • 00:20:57.939 --> 00:21:02.110
  • And that's what god wants us to do.
  • 00:21:02.110 --> 00:21:04.346
  • By the way, those classes, we're offering them today, class 101
  • 00:21:04.346 --> 00:21:07.316
  • To 401 are being offered this afternoon.
  • 00:21:07.316 --> 00:21:10.185
  • Now it's really funny because as we've taught the saddleback's
  • 00:21:10.185 --> 00:21:14.189
  • Purpose-driven system all around the world, 400,000 pastors have
  • 00:21:14.189 --> 00:21:18.026
  • Been trained in this, so it's all around the world.
  • 00:21:18.026 --> 00:21:21.096
  • It's funny because they don't play baseball in a lot of
  • 00:21:21.096 --> 00:21:23.065
  • Countries, so they have to have different diagrams.
  • 00:21:23.065 --> 00:21:25.801
  • So, for instance, in brazil, they don't use a baseball
  • 00:21:25.801 --> 00:21:28.103
  • Diamond to represent spiritual growth.
  • 00:21:28.103 --> 00:21:30.339
  • They use a soccer field.
  • 00:21:30.339 --> 00:21:32.607
  • And you go down the field to the 10-yard line, the 20-yard line,
  • 00:21:32.607 --> 00:21:35.977
  • Or the 50, 40, 30, 20, and then you score, and you hit a goal
  • 00:21:35.977 --> 00:21:40.449
  • When you've gone around all of the bases.
  • 00:21:40.449 --> 00:21:43.985
  • In russia, they use a ladder.
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  • Step one and step two and step three, knowing christ, loving
  • 00:21:46.722 --> 00:21:50.625
  • Christ, sharing christ, you know, the--up the steps.
  • 00:21:50.625 --> 00:21:54.463
  • In australia they don't play baseball, but they play cricket
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  • And i don't know if you know this, but they use a diamond
  • 00:21:57.366 --> 00:21:59.167
  • There too, but you run it the opposite way.
  • 00:21:59.167 --> 00:22:01.103
  • You run it clockwise, which makes sense.
  • 00:22:01.103 --> 00:22:03.405
  • They do it backwards because they're down under, you know.
  • 00:22:03.405 --> 00:22:06.041
  • So it's reversed in what we do in the northern hemisphere and
  • 00:22:06.041 --> 00:22:10.178
  • So they use a cricket to represent the purposes.
  • 00:22:10.178 --> 00:22:13.382
  • In china, where there's a lot of religious persecution from the
  • 00:22:13.382 --> 00:22:16.284
  • Communist party, the chinese church chose the chinese flag
  • 00:22:16.284 --> 00:22:20.455
  • Because there's 5 stars on it to represent the five purposes of
  • 00:22:20.455 --> 00:22:24.025
  • God for our lives.
  • 00:22:24.025 --> 00:22:25.627
  • So some communist leader comes in and says, "oh, i see you're
  • 00:22:25.627 --> 00:22:27.763
  • Very patriotic."
  • 00:22:27.763 --> 00:22:29.097
  • Yeah, well, what they're doing is they're saying that's the
  • 00:22:29.097 --> 00:22:30.465
  • Symbol for the five purposes, the five stars.
  • 00:22:30.465 --> 00:22:35.170
  • Now, this idea that i'm sharing with you, helping people grow
  • 00:22:35.170 --> 00:22:38.340
  • Systematically, is not new.
  • 00:22:38.340 --> 00:22:41.076
  • For 2000 years, churches have been doing this.
  • 00:22:41.076 --> 00:22:43.078
  • It's called a catechism.
  • 00:22:43.078 --> 00:22:45.981
  • Anybody heard of that one?
  • 00:22:45.981 --> 00:22:47.649
  • You know what a catechism is?
  • 00:22:47.649 --> 00:22:49.251
  • A catechism isn't just in catholic church.
  • 00:22:49.251 --> 00:22:51.386
  • All churches have used catechisms.
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  • You learn this, then you learn this, then you learn this, then
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  • You learn this, and for 2000 years, people have been going
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  • Through a growing process.
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  • You need a pathway to grow.
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  • But there's something else you need, and this is really
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  • Important if you're gonna continue growing the rest of
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  • Your life.
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  • If you don't get anything else i say, i want you to get this.
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  • If you wanna grow, you must develop good habits.
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  • Would you write that down?
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  • Spiritual growth is a matter of good habits.
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  • Every area of your life is determined, controlled, by
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  • The habits.
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  • The difference between successful and unsuccessful
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  • People, successful people have habits that unsuccessful people
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  • Are afraid to develop or too lazy to develop.
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  • And in the christian life, you are the sum total of
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  • Your habits.
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  • You see, character is a matter of habit.
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  • It's something that you do habitually.
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  • For instance, you can't say you have the character quality of
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  • Honesty, unless it's your habit to always tell the truth.
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  • If you tell the truth 70% of the time, you're not honest.
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  • It's not a habit.
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  • It's not a character--you gotta be honest, it has to be a habit
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  • In your--if i say to my wife, "honey, i have the character
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  • Quality of faithfulness to you.
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  • And i will be faithful to you 28 days a month."
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  • Well, that doesn't work.
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  • Partial faithfulness is unfaithfulness, right?
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  • Does that make sense?
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  • You're not being faithful at all if you're faithful 90% of
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  • The time.
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  • No, i'm not faithful to my wife unless i am 100% faithful to her
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  • All the time.
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  • Now that's true in every area.
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  • It's developing good habits.
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  • We have a class called class 201 where we teach the basic habits
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  • Of the christian life.
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  • Now, throughout the centuries, for 2000 years of the church,
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  • Christians have used these habits.
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  • Sometimes they're called spiritual disciplines.
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  • Sometimes they're called devotional practices.
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  • I don't care what you call them, we call them habits
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  • At saddleback.
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  • It's stuff that you learn like how to have a daily time with
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  • God, a quiet time, how to pray.
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  • That's a habit.
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  • How to read the bible.
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  • That's a habit.
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  • How to be in a small group fellowship.
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  • That's a habit.
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  • How to tithe your money. that's a habit.
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  • The habit of solitude, silence, being quiet before god, the
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  • Habit of fasting, the habit of journaling, there are hundreds
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  • Of good habits, some are more important than others.
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  • But they are the building blocks for growing to
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  • Spiritual maturity.
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  • And notice the results of spiritual maturity.
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  • It says that when you have these habits and when you grow,
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  • And you do what jesus tells you to do, it says, "you will
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  • Produce fruit."
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  • Announcer: do you want to be happier, healthier, and more
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  • Resistant to stress?
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  • Then you need to develop an attitude of gratitude.
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  • In fact, the bible says we're to rejoice always, pray
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  • Continually, and give thanks in all circumstances.
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  • But it can be difficult to feel grateful.
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  • So to help you, pastor rick hand-selected 52 verses to
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  • Bolster your sense of gratitude and increase your happiness.
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  • This set of beautifully designed cards will help you memorize
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  • Scripture so you can recall god's word when you need
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  • It most.
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  • You can also use them to minister to others, give one to
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  • A friend and write a personalized note of
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  • Encouragement on the back.
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  • If a scripture really speaks to you, frame it.
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  • Put them in places where you can read them during the day
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  • For encouragement.
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  • And today, when you give a gift to help "daily hope" take the
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  • Hope of jesus to a world in need, we'll send you the
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  • Gratitude scripture card set to say thanks.
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  • ♪♪♪
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