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The Rosenberg Report | Joel Rosenberg: Faith Under Fire | The Rosenberg Report | April 2, 2026

Tonight on the rosenberg report,
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As the war in iran and lebanon rages on,
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Ramadan ends, passover
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Begins, and resurrection sunday is about to unfold,
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Yet millions of christians, jews and muslims
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In the middle east are finding their faith under fire.
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And the host of fox news sunday has just published
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A timely new book, nothing is impossible with god.
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11 heroes, one god, and endless lessons in overcoming.
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It's already hit
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Number one on the new york times bestseller list.
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What can we learn about unbreakable faith
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And unexpected courage in a time of darkness and doubt?
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It's a personal and revealing conversation
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With a highly respected journalist
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And devout evangelical christian.
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Shannon bream and it all starts right here, right now
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On the rosenberg report.
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It is a crazy time of war,
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As the united states
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And israel continues to attack and try to destroy
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The iranian regime and its ability to fire
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Ballistic missiles, suicide drones, and project terror
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And tyranny, against israel, against obviously, u.s.
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Interests and allies
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And against our arab allies here in the middle east.
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So that war continues.
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But in the midst of this, this is holy week.
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We are
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We 2.6 billion followers of jesus christ, myself
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And my family included,
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Are focused on a palm sunday heading into,
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Resurrection sunday.
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And of course, 15 million jews around the world,
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Including 8 million israeli jews.
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We are remembering passover and we often during passover,
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Have we there's
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Basically three different ways to celebrate, right?
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There's the ultra-orthodox way, which is many, many hours,
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Lots of reading of the scriptures, lots
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Of commentaries and lots of discussions.
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It is a long and long process.
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There is the
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Sort of the regular, normal,
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Traditional way to do a seder, a passover ceremony.
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And then there's the short version,
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Which you can pretty much summarize
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By saying they enslaved us.
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They tried to annihilate us, but god saved us.
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So let's eat.
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Okay, so,
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Never has that been more true than what
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We're going through right now.
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But in the midst of all that's happening,
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The anchor of fox news sunday and a wonderful friend,
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Shannon bream, has written
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A fantastic new book, nothing is impossible with god.
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I love this book. i'm about halfway through it.
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I've read all of her other books,
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And i couldn't love this one more.
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11 heroes, one god, and endless lessons in overcoming.
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And i think the timing of this
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Book is interesting not only for what
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People are going through in the united states and canada,
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But also for what we're going through, the darkness
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That we're going through right here in the middle east.
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It's good.
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It's a good time
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To focus on the lessons from moses, from peter, from,
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Noah, from, jonah, and of course, from the life of jesus.
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And joining me from washington is my friend shannon bream.
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Shannon, welcome to the rosenberg report.
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It's so good to see you and thank you for this book.
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I absolutely love it.
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Thank you.
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And you too, my friend.
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And our prayers are with you,
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Through this really, really treacherous time.
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It is a little bit of a crazy time.
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And, but it puts, your book in an interesting
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Relief at the moment.
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So let's let's get into it.
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Look, i want to talk to you about two particular,
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Biblical heroes in the, in the that you write about, obviously,
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Moses, it's passover week and obviously the life of jesus.
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We may touch on a few others
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As you want to draw on them, but i want to start with you.
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Why did you write this particular book?
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Yeah.
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And i think, joel and gosh, it's such a universal thing,
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Whatever you're facing in your life.
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And we have a lot of different things.
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I mean, whether it's a broken family
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Or a scary diagnosis or a lost job or war.
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I mean, there are things that ecclesiastes one tells us,
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You know, there's nothing new under the sun.
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God has seen all of these struggles.
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Nothing is a surprise to him.
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And i think by digging through these stories of the past,
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We can see,
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First of all, i hope people will get encouragement
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From these stories that god was working
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Even in the darkest, deepest valleys
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That we will all walk through at some point.
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But i want them to be equipped to.
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So i try to make
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Some practical lessons of this that they can apply in whatever
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They're walking through.
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And i do open the book sharing, the story
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That, you know, about my life and a real physical struggle
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That i had living with chronic pain
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For quite a while
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And going doctor to doctor, trying to get diagnosed,
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Finally getting that diagnosis and then hearing the words,
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There's no cure for what you have
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And just really having
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To press into god's presence and trust him and,
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You know, walk in faith.
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I mean, faith means we do have to step out for things unseen.
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Things we don't know yet, and trust
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That god has a good plan, even when we cannot see it in
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Our human minds, can only fathom so much,
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And we can't always know how he's working.
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But i find such encouragement in each of these stories,
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And this theme of overcoming is
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What kind of that is that thread that holds them all together.
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So i hope in being transparent and highlighting
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These amazing heroes
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From the bible,
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That people will find encouragement for whatever
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Their current challenges or whatever is coming.
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Would you take a little bit more time
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And talk about, like you said, chronic pain?
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Okay, that's one way to put it.
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But you were dealing with, an eye condition that was
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Basically ripping your corneas every time you opened your eyes.
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And with you you've described, as you describe in the book,
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Pain was a ten out of ten every single time.
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Yeah.
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This absolutely was the worst season of my life
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And absolutely to my limit, as you said.
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I mean,
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Because i was living in so much pain
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And going doctor to doctor, i mean, i was at night
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Having these tears to my cornea,
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Which finally i found the doctor
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Who could diagnose and explain that.
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But if you've ever scratched the surface of your eye,
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You know what that feels like.
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And by the time i finally got to a diagnosis,
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The doctor said to me, it's like somebody has been out
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On a soccer field
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And playing in the sharpest cleats for the longest time,
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With no one ever repairing the field.
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And it's just being torn up again and again and again.
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I mean, the surface of your eyes are a mess, and it's no,
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You know, mystery why you have so much pain.
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You're just constantly injuring your eye.
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So i got to the point where i was setting alarms
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For every 2 or 3 hours, just trying to stay ahead
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Of what i didn't understand,
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To put drops in my eyes to make sure
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That they were lubricated, to do anything i could.
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And once i got the diagnosis, it finally made sense.
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But there were many nights,
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I mean, on the ground in pain, in my bathroom, just crying out.
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Not an eloquent prayer.
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God doesn't require that all of us
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Is listening at any time.
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And just saying, lord, please help me.
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I mean that would be my prayer
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Just repeated over and over again.
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And it was a really, really difficult time.
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It made me much more empathetic.
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I would have never chosen it,
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But when you look around and see,
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I knew what i was just kind of existing.
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I was surviving at that point,
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One day at a time, one night at a time.
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But you think about people around you,
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Whether it's a physical
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Or emotional wounds that they've got,
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And you realize
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There are people
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That are walking through life in enormous
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Pain all the time, exhausted, crippled by that.
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And i've gotten to the point where before
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I found this doctor, i was just searching online,
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Which i always tell people don't do.
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It's not the best way to diagnose yourself,
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But i was just looking for anyone
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Who might have the same symptoms or explain what this was.
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And i stumbled into message boards
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And chat rooms where people talked
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About being turned away from emergency
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Rooms, being told they were crazy.
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I related to all of that.
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And then there were those who said,
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You know, i really just want to end this.
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I want to end my life.
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And i thought that didn't sound crazy to me at all
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At that point.
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That's how far down this pit i was in where i thought,
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Gosh, lord, just please end this.
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Please give me peace.
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Please give me, let me go to sleep and wake up with you.
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I can't do this in an earthly walk anymore.
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And it was at that point, you know, that i went leveled
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With my husband, sheldon, who
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You know very well, and he says hello, by the way,
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Just because this is.
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Scary for you is scary for him.
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There's nothing he could do for you.
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Yeah, yeah, but it was together.
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We just prayed, lord, if you're not going to heal me.
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Always remembering the story of paul and corinthians
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When he talks about that thorn in the side and god
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Said, nope,
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Not going to take it away
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Because my strength is made perfect in your weakness.
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So you talk about all of
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Those childhood lessons i had and scriptures i knew,
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And they just come to life when you were living and walking
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Through that.
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And, you know, paul goes on to say, okay, therefore
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I will boast
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All the more gladly
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About my weaknesses so that christ power may rest on me,
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And thank the lord that that's where he led my heart.
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The holy spirit guided me
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To just rely on him, not be angry, not be,
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You know,
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Casting him out of my pain, but just asking him
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To walk me through that. and that's what he's done.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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What is fox news sunday anchor shannon bream discovered
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About the seemingly impossible obstacle that moses
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And jesus both faced and overcame,
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That has already turned her new book.
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Nothing is impossible with god into a number one new york
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Times bestseller.
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Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after this break.
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Right after this break.
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It's passover.
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Shannon. let's talk about moses.
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What were some of the impossible
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Obstacles as you sort of relooked at the life of moses?
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You've studied him your whole life. read about him.
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But what were the things that moses faced that
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You sort of more identified and were drawn to?
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And how did he learn
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That nothing is impossible with god?
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If you know his story?
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He sees a hebrew slave being mistreated and he ends up
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Killing the egyptian, then goes on the run himself.
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He's out in the wilderness
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For decades until god shows up and says, moses,
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I have an assignment for you, that burning bush.
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And so if you remember, he's got the hebrew roots.
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He's got the elite,
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Egyptian education and knowledge of pharaoh's
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Household and how that would all work.
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And he's very hesitant, like, i'm
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Not the one to speak for you. i can't do this.
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And so unwilling that it says that, he that
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No matter how much god does it, tell him i'm with you.
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You know, i'll give you the staff.
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That's miraculous.
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I'll.
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I'll be with your miles that he's so unwilling that
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The text says that god's anger burned at moses.
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And then a few verses later, ten verses later.
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It looks like
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God's about to kill him because he's he's not even
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Circumcising his own son.
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He's about to rescue
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The nation of israel, but he won't even follow the basics
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Of the commandment given to abraham, isaac, and jacob.
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So this is this is one,
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Very resistant, man.
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He's 80 years old
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And he's been outcast for 40 years at this point.
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Right?
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He had the palace life, the royal life of 40,
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But now he's in the backside.
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That's why i joke that this is must be why moses stuttered.
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Because if for 40 years, all he heard with that bad
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He talked like this too. but.
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But this is tremendous resistance, right?
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I mean, you'd see. and this is the best god had.
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So keep going.
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Because this as you unpack this story, it's very,
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Very fascinating to me because the impossible
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Seems to get moses to do it, not god's like, i'll do the
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I'll do the miracles. i'll do the plagues and the red sea.
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But you, moses, i gotta i you're making it really difficult.
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Yeah.
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And of course, he's going to equip us
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If we are willing and will walk forward.
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But you're right.
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The impossible task may have been getting moses
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To see that he was capable enough
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And that god would be with him in this.
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And so when he says, you know,
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What am i to tell the people about?
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You know, that they should suddenly listen to me.
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This guy who's been out in the desert being a,
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You know, a shepherd for all these years
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To go back and leave these people,
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You know, it's
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Where god says to him, i am, i am, that's who is sending you.
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And you go,
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I'm going to make things right
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For you with the leaders of israel.
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But i'm also going to give you
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This authority before pharaoh to actually go and do.
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And so finally, after all of this
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Arguing and resistance and angering
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God, moses moves forward.
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And and if you know his story,
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He does have to go to the people of israel and the leaders
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And convince them or,
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Or at least bring the message
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That god has chosen him to go lead the people out.
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He has all of this back and forth
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With pharaoh, the terrible plagues,
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The beautiful thing that leads us to the passover,
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Which was devastating for everybody who was not protected
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And was not under the protection of the passover.
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But what a beautiful tradition that continues to show
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God's goodness
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In protecting his people in such a miraculous way.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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What is it about the life and ministry of jesus
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That most personally and profoundly changed the life
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Of fox news sunday anchor shannon bream?
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And it's turned.
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Her new book, nothing is impossible with god
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Into an instant number one new york times bestseller.
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Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after this break.
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Right after this break.
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Okay, so we've just celebrated, palm sunday.
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We're approaching, resurrection sunday,
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2.6 billion christians around the world, including,
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Many of us here, right here in the holy land,
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We're processing that, but we're also,
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We're doing it under tremendous difficulties right now.
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But but that's true of many christians.
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Again, different situations, different crises.
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I'm just curious,
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For you, when you think of the different,
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Impossible or seemingly impossible
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Excruciating moments in the life of jesus,
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Well, not just in this book, but as you've been writing
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All of these books about what we're discovering, often,
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Whether it's women in the bible or friends in the bible or,
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Romantic relationships in the bible,
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Or now people facing, all kinds of challenges,
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Whether it's the apostle peter or jesus.
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And so what are some of the lessons that you are most
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Resonating with and that you're finding
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As you've been doing this book tour and now at number one,
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New york times bestseller right out of the gate.
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Congratulations for that.
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What do you think is resonating
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With people that people need to hear
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You share from the scriptures about the life of jesus?
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Well, i think one of the best things
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About reexamining his life is knowing that,
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Listen, he willingly came to be fully
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God and fully man at the same time.
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So he's walked in our path. he's walked our shoes.
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He suffered in ways that many of us can't understand.
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But the great thing is, he does understand our suffering.
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I'm sure that there were times he was hungry.
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He was frustrated.
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He had all
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The source of emotions, the scan
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And span of emotions that we have.
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So there's nothing that we're going to face
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That he doesn't understand temptation
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And struggles in life. he gets that.
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So coming to walk in our experience so humbly
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And so graciously and so sacrificially for us,
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Just knowing that he has walked this side
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And that he has had every experience
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I find so encouraging,
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And i think a lot of people will think, well, he's god,
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You know, he could turn things off and on.
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He could well, he could do any of those things.
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He could have taken himself off the cross.
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He could have decided not to go to the cross.
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We see the anguish in him, the very human side of him,
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Really, just being tormented and tortured over
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What he knew was ahead.
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And yet he did it.
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Would you take us into the garden of gethsemane?
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Because that may be the most painful moment in jesus's life.
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When we saw him weep over the death
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Of his friend lazarus and weep over this city
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That i'm in right now in jerusalem
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And our unwillingness to turn to him.
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But but the gardener of somebody,
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I think we see him at his most human.
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He does not want to go to the cross.
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I'm not sure that most people who haven't spent
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A lot of time in the world, and especially people
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Who are not followers of jesus christ, or maybe,
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Casual followers of jesus christ,
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I'm not sure they realize how much jesus didn't
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Want to go to the cross,
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And that's what he's pleading with his father.
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Let this this cup pass from me take us into the garden.
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Would you?
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Yeah.
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I mean, think about his knowing exactly what was coming,
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The brutal torture, the crucifixion.
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I mean, i can't imagine any of us knowing
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Something like that was coming
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And having the option to say, like, okay, i give up.
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I'm not going to do it and to not follow through.
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I think almost 100 out of 100 humans would say, i can't do it.
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I'm not going to do it
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If you had a choice to walk away from it.
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But as you said, he said, you know,
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If it can be to let this cup pass from me, so be it.
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But not my will.
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Your will be done.
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And we're told that his anguish was such
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That he was sweating drops of blood.
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I mean, he's completely poured out
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As a human being at that point.
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That part of him,
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He's asked his closest inner circle to be there
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And watch and pray with him.
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And they fall asleep over and over again.
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He can't even rely
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On his closest circle to be there and support him.
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He's feeling completely alone and knowing that
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This will also require him to be separated from the father.
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So the anguish in knowing that that's coming,
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There's the physical, but also that spiritual, absolute
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Brokenness and torment that he will have to go through.
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He knows all of that is coming
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And he's completely grieved and suffering deeply, deeply
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Over all of that and yet continues
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To make the decision to walk forward in it.
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But it was not something he just, you know,
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Glided to the cross knowing, okay, i know this ends
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This is easy. i'm going to walk straight into this.
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He really, really struggled and anguished and was broken
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Over that and yet still chose to move forward for us.
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All right.
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I want to ask you one last question because
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We're running out of time, unfortunately, and that is this.
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I know you've been here to israel,
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At least to jerusalem, you were, here interviewing
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The vice president a few years back and then.
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And i loved having lunch with you at the king
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David hotel.
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And you and your team had, like,
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I think, a day to kind of poke around.
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But do you haven't really walked where jesus walked and done
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All that.
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You know where the apostles and the prophets walk.
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I know you want to talk about why why do you want to?
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And i hope that we,
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You know, we can still work this out with you and sheldon.
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I know, maybe not this week. okay?
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It's a little it's a little tough.
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Next year, april 7th, 2027.
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The joshua fund and all these news
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Will be doing our first ever, epicenter summit.
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We're hoping to bring 3000 evangelicals
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From all over the world to come and study and to listen
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And to worship and and we'll have a tours.
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But regardless,
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I mean, i would love for you to to come to that.
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Maybe we can figure that out.
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But just why have this been sort of a childhood dream
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To to come and walk where jesus walked?
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I mean, it's just such an amazing thing
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To feel the holy spirit, to feel that you're walking
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All of the stories that you've studied,
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All of these things, you know, to actually be there
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And you do as you walk around the city,
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You think, did jesus, but, you know, did
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He have his footsteps right here where i'm walking.
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What about the apostles?
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Where did this happen or that happen?
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It's such an amazing thing.
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I don't want to use the word
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Magical
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Because i don't think of it in that way,
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But i think that it's a very spiritual thing.
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And i look forward to the time.
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Yes, that shel and i can come back
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And really spend time there because, it just brings things
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To life in a technicolor way to be able to be there.
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And there's so much more that i still want to explore.
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And i know when you lead people, with your deep knowledge
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And biblical knowledge to different places
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And to be able to say, okay,
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This is where this sermon happened
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Or that miracle happened, it's just something that you're
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Never going to experience short of actually
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Being there and walking that that very holy ground.
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Well, we look forward to welcoming you
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When that day comes.
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We pray that, we head to peace, right?
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And security and the victory over our enemies.
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We i believe we're in a a tectonic,
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Shift here in what's going on in the middle east.
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But we are not through this thing yet.
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I appreciate, your prayers for the peace of jerusalem
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And the prayers of,
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All of your readers and all of our watchers, viewers.
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It is a it's a tough season.
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But nothing is impossible with god.
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And i could not be more grateful for this book.
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The timing of it is perfect, at least
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For those of us here in the middle east, i think,
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And for everybody's life. and, shannon,
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I want to thank you, not just congratulate you.
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You've got a lot of success that you've seen in your life,
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But i think it's important for people to realize
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That your life has also had some very severe challenges.
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We only dealt with one and we only scratched the surface.
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But you've seen this all play out in your own life.
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This is not theory to you.
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You've been tested.
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You and sheldon have been tested,
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And he has been tested in ways that,
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Nobody would want to go through.
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And and god is now using you both.
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To teach the word and encourage.
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And i want to thank you for that, both personally,
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And on behalf of our tbn viewers.
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Well, god bless you.
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And we will continue to pray for you
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And letting your boys and their families and,
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All of those who are there with you
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In that very sacred spot.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. shalom. from jerusalem.
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And that is our show for tonight.
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Thank you so much for watching.
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Please be sure to order copies of shannon's fantastic
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New book for yourself and for your family and friends.
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Please keep praying for american and israeli forces
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To achieve a decisive victory in iran.
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Please keep praying for the lord to protect all american,
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Israeli and arab civilians as we face and iranian civilians
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As we face savage and relentless missile and drone attacks
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From this wicked regime in tehran.
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Please pray for the spiritual and political liberation of iran
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From this wicked regime,
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And for the liberation politically
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And spiritually of lebanon from hezbollah's reign of terror.
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And please keep praying for every single person
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Here in the epicenter to hear the gospel and to say yes
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To god's free
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Gift of forgiveness and salvation and eternal life
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That he offers to all
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Who believe in jesus, his death and glorious resurrection.
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That may seem crazy and impossible at times,
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But nothing is impossible with god.
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And be sure to go to our youtube
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Channel for exclusive new reports, and to find a link
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To this show that you can share on social media with others.
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Have a peaceful week with you and your family
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And friends as you walk with the lord
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In the power of his holy spirit
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And continue praying for the peace of jerusalem.
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And lord willing,
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I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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Joel Rosenberg: Faith Under Fire | The Rosenberg Report

April 2, 2026 | 22:58

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