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Tonight on the Rosenberg Report, U.S. Ambassador to Isreal Mike Huckabee talks about the future of Israel, Iran, Gaza and evangelicals.

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Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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Just how worried should israelis, moderate arab leaders
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And evangelicals be over president trump's aggressive
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New push to negotiate a nuclear deal with the iranian regime?
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Is trump just laying the ground for a massive military attack,
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Or is there a risk trump could get played by tehran?
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Why is the president
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Coming to the middle east next week, but not to israel?
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And are there any signs that a us brokered deal
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To free the rest of the hostages is close at hand?
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An exclusive sit down interview with president trump's
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New pointman in israel, ambassador mike huckabee.
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His first since arriving at the american embassy in jerusalem
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Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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Mike huckabee, the new u.s.
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Ambassador to israel, is in the house.
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He is not only in the country, but he is here in the tbn
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Studios here in jerusalem.
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And i'm going to talk to him
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For our first exclusive interview since he arrived.
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And i'm really looking forward to that.
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We got a lot to cover.
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I want to ask him about,
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Growing israeli but also evangelical concerns.
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What where exactly is president trump
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Going with these negotiations with iran?
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If there's anyone we could trust to deal with iran and israel,
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It's president trump.
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But i don't think most of us are were expecting
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Trump to engage the iranians and to say, i want a deal.
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I don't want to bomb you if i can help it.
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We don't we're not opposed to that.
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We want a deal, but it has to be a good deal.
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So where are we in that process?
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Israelis and some evangelicals are anxious.
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I want to talk to him about that.
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I also want to talk to him about, the hostages.
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Where are we?
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Is there any hope of an american led breakthrough?
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President trump, of course, is coming to the region.
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He's not coming to israel, so far as we know.
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That's not in the plan. at least it's not public.
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So there's no evidence of that.
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But he is going to saudi arabia.
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He's going to the uae
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And the qatar, and we're going to ask the ambassador why?
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Because obviously that affects us.
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Middle east policy affects, u.s.
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Policy towards israel.
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But first, i just want to say, hey, welcome.
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It's great to have you.
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Thank you so. much, ambassador.
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Well, it's a privilege to be here
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And, you know, you and i talk often,
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But it's usually 7000 miles apart.
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So, what a delight to get to be with you here in, jerusalem.
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And i appreciate you able to come and. what have you.
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We often say this, that, you know,
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This is not a green screen. this is the real.
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It really is the real deal. yeah.
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And there's not another view
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Quite like this anywhere in jerusalem.
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Tbn, studio and its view of the old city is second to none.
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Amen. well, so glad to have you.
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This particular day
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Is interesting that you and i meet,
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Which this will air on thursday and over the weekend.
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But as you and i record this on sunday, my son,
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My youngest of four,
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Was we took him to be inducted into the idf.
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He's being drafted today.
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So this is a whole new thing.
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We've already had two of our four already serve in the idf.
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The oldest was already getting married
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And was heading back to the state, so,
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He didn't end up serving, but.
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So this is,
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All these questions i'm
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Going to ask you about war and peace and hostages.
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And, you know,
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It's becoming very, very personal once again for us.
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The other thing is, this morning, a
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Ballistic missile built by iran but fired from yemen
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Broke through u.s.
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And israeli anti-missile defense systems and hit
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The grounds of ben-gurion international airport,
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Our main civilian airport. so maybe we start there.
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Just your reaction to these incredible, videos of passengers
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And all being terrified by that explosion.
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You know, it's sort of like everyday life
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In the world of an israeli.
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Now, not every time
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Missile gets through, most of the time, either.
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The arrows, the iron dome of the fired
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Missiles will intercept it, take it out.
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In fact, a little earlier this morning, we heard a loud boom!
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I was out in the backyard with my two little dogs,
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And i hit this big boom.
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And it was, miles from us.
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Didn't even activate the jerusalem sirens.
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But it gives you some idea of the small country.
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The sound of the boom
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Was large, and it was a missile being intercepted.
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Then later, this one got through.
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And that's unfortunate, because normally they don't.
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But no defense system is perfect.
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It's a very important reminder that israel is under attack
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Regularly from people who want to not just
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Trouble them, but want to destroy them.
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And it's part of the ethos of this incredible country
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That people have to wake up every day
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Knowing that there are threats to their very existence.
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Yeah, just over the last month, we've had, i think, 20.
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I think this is the 26 missile that was fired out
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Just from yemen.
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Again, most of them shot down by the us, sometimes by israel.
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President trump doing a great job at really unleashing.
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Taking the gloves off and hitting the houses.
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But obviously there's a lot more work
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To be done to neutralize that threat.
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Which brings us really to the larger threat,
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The head of the octopus, which is iran.
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But as i just started a moment ago,
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Israelis are anxious,
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Because we were, i think, fairly certain
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President trump would come in and
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And give a quick ultimatum, you know, make a fast deal
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Or that's it.
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They've had all these years,
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But we're now in engaged in this week by week process.
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And i think israelis and i think i think
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As, as time goes by, more evangelicals are thinking, okay,
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We do trust president trump more than any
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American president and certainly more than the last.
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But where's he going with this?
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Does he really trust the iranians
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To to cut a deal with him?
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What should we be knowing about what he's thinking
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And where he's going?
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I would say listen to what he actually says.
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Don't listen so much
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To the new york times in the washington post.
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It would have you to
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Believe that he's about to resurrect jcpoa,
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2.0 and go back and embrace the obama policies.
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He was the one that got rid of jcpoa in his first term.
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He's been very clear.
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The iranians are not going to have a nuclear weapon.
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That's not on the table.
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There's no negotiation about that part of it.
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Two things i think people need to kind of
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Look at in the big picture.
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One, this is a president who would rather
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Find a peaceful way for the iranian government
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To back off their ambition for a nuclear weapon.
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It's not a matter of
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Are they going to get one, maybe just a little smaller one.
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They're not going to get one.
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That's one thing he has been consistent.
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Never change that. never hesitated to say it.
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Can there
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Be a way to avert an all out war?
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If so,
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This is a president who would rather have peace than war.
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Yeah. well, i think you we all evangelicals
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Support that, right?
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You're a peacemaker. that's what we want.
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But we have very, very high doubts
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Over a long period of time, 50 years, that this regime
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Or anyone like them would make a deal that we could.
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Yeah.
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I don't i don't think anybody believes
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That the iranians
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Will make a good deal unless they're doing it
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Just to protect themselves, their regime.
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And if they make one,
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How do we ever believe they will keep it?
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For 46 years, the ayatollahs have been in power.
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They've never made or kept a deal. yet,
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That somehow showed that they
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Were willing to be good neighbors.
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They're terrible neighbors.
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They're the ones who have financed the houses.
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Hezbollah and hamas.
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The reason
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So many people got slaughtered on october the 7th is because
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You can say it was hamas, and it was,
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But the check was written in tehran.
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And if you look at even those missiles
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That came out, as you mentioned,
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You know, those are really postmarked
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Tehran, the houthis may have shot them,
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But they were first delivered to the houses from the iranians.
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So we're not seeing any evidence
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That they're changing their ways, that the,
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Leopard is getting rid of its spots.
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So i want to be clear about that.
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The president's message
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Just last week, when he was on the way to
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The funeral for the pope and he was asked by reporter,
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Are you going to let israel drag the united states into a war?
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I love this answer
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Because he said, nobody's dragging us into anything.
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If the iranians don't understand,
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They're not going to have a nuclear weapon.
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They won't.
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We won't be dragged into it.
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I'll be leading it.
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I'll make sure that they don't have it.
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I would say those kind of words and statements are much more
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The policy of the trump administration
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Than hearing somebody who is spouting off
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To the new york times or the washington post,
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Neither of which are going to ever give donald trump,
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Time of day. and fair enough.
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Fair enough.
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But, early
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On, you got steve wyckoff,
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Who was a very accomplished negotiator, in fact.
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We'll get to it later in the show, that he did
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A brilliant job getting the the next round of hostages out.
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And we hope that he can do it again.
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But he does look a little stretched, a little thin.
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He's trying to end the war between russia and ukraine.
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Get all of our hostage out.
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Deal with the iranian portfolio.
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And the winning portfolio is a steep
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That's a steep learning curve.
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His his first statement, the first substantive statement
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Was that he was going to let the u.s.
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Was going to let iran
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Continue to enrich and i think 3.67% or something.
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That's jcpoa numbers.
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That's why there is this talk of maybe we're going back.
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Now he did retract that. yeah.
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But that seemed like the misstep
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That a doesn't seem like steve.
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But on the other hand, he's got a lot of things to cover.
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Is it too much. is he i mean is there any
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There are
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Some reasons to be concerned that maybe with everything going
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On, president trump might take a deal that he wouldn't
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Wish for, but he would be okay with?
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No, i don't have that anxiety.
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I'm not saying that,
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And i've talked to the president,
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I've talked to steve wyckoff, i've talked to marco rubio.
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I'm not hearing anywhere in the administration
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That there's a willingness just to get a deal to have a deal.
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And i think increasingly, there's a clear understanding
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That the iranians can't, you know, do some,
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Shock and, and jiving on this.
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They're going to have to get down to the bare bones.
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They're going to have to be willing
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To let inspections take place if anything happens.
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But i also believe the president would like to say,
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Sort of to quote the words of a john lennon song,
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Let's give peace a chance.
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Now, peace may not have a chance in this,
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But if there has to be an all out attack,
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I think the president wants to be able to say
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To the world, look, we did everything possible
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To achieve some, positive results.
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I mean, diplomatically.
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But when diplomacy fails, the military steps in.
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It's always better to put diplomacy first,
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Military action second.
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I agree. with that.
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And i and i appreciate the way you put it.
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When we come back, let's talk
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About why president trump is coming into the region,
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To talk to our arab allies.
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And iran certainly give me a critical issue.
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Don't go away.
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We'll be right back on the rosenberg report.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
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Why is president trump coming to the middle east
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Next week to saudi arabia, the uae and qatar,
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But not israel?
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And why is trump visiting qatar at all when this gulf arab
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Regime is so closely aligned with iran and hamas?
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Don't miss ambassador huckabee's reasons to joel's
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Direct questions when the rosenberg report
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Continues on tbn right after this break.
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Continues on tbn right after this break.
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Okay.
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The president's coming.
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It's a big first international trip, aside
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From paying his respects to pope francis,
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But he's not coming to israel. so let's start there.
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You're the ambassador to israel.
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Why isn't the president
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Who's the most pro-israel president in history?
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Why is he not coming here?
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I mean,
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He spent an enormous amount of time
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With prime minister netanyahu in washington.
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And i think that right now, he would love to see the abraham
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Accords expanded.
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He would love to see a greater level of partnership
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Within the region and the gulf states.
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So it makes sense.
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He's had a strong relationship with the saudis.
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They're a key to moving the abraham accords forward.
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So i think that's part of it.
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There's also some very significant
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Economic opportunities
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That he's going to be dealing with and announcing on the trip.
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So he's going to three, key strategic.
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I would say allies of the region,
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The saudis, the qataris and the emiratis.
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The emiratis are already part of the abraham accords.
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They're a country that i have great respect for
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Because they stuck themselves
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Out there in the early days of the abraham accords.
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Much to the chagrin of some of their neighbors.
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But it's proven to be an increase, a good relationship.
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And i had a visit with the ambassador,
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From the emirati to israel.
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They're extremely pleased
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With what has resulted in terms of economic activity.
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There's a lot more that can be done.
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And they're looking to do it. yeah, no, i agree.
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You may recall that one of the delegations
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Of evangelical leaders that i led that unfortunately,
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You know, i invited you just for the record.
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But for the record, i did invite mike.
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What's on. your fault?
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I know exactly, but you had a full, dance card.
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But we met with, president mohammed bin zayed.
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He was the crown prince at the time,
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And it wasn't boilerplate, but i said to him, look, you know,
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This is the first country that's invited us first.
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You're the first leader
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That's invited
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Us, that in the arab world that doesn't have a peace treaty
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With israel.
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And we're just looking
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Who is going to be the next arab leader to, to make peace.
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It's been, at that point, a quarter of a century
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After egypt, after jordan.
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And i just wanted to get it sort of on the record with him.
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And he said, joel, it's going to be me.
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And we were all of us.
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We're like. the newsmaker. yeah.
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And he spent the next hour
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Explaining how his calculus had changed.
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He said, israel's not the threat.
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Yeah, that we thought once.
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And that was all of us in the arab world thought it's iran
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That's the threat.
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And that that calculus shift changed everything
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Because we hadn't agreed that that was an off
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The record conversation at the time.
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So we walked out with this huge headline.
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Yeah, we didn't share it because you know what?
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We get our word.
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But sure enough,
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It was just about two years almost to the day,
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And he announced with president trump and, prime minister
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Netanyahu, that he was starting the abraham accords process.
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And it was really amazing.
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So what should
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But those arab countries, i can tell you
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From personal conversations with mbs, mbz and others,
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They're very worried about the iran threat.
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So again. yeah.
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Is iran part of the agenda?
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I mean, a briefing on what's going to happen,
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And how president trump is proceeding
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With these negotiations for these arab leaders face to face.
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Heart to heart
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Yeah.
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I'm not able to talk about what will all be on the
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The table.
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I think it's fair to say that, you've assessed correctly
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That everyone in the region understands
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Israel is not their enemy.
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It just isn't
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The real threat, the real enemy, the real danger, the outlier.
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And all of this is iran.
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And then it that multiplies exponentially
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Should they be able to obtain a nuclear weapon.
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So they're a threat, right now with their capacity
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With ballistic missiles and all of the just things
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That they have continued to build up.
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And people remember that israel
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Degraded their military pretty handily,
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Pretty much took down their air support system.
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But the iranians have been building
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Rockets, missiles and bombs every day as fast as they can
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Since that happened.
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So if anyone thinks that they just stopped and quit
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Building their inventory, they're quite wrong.
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And they're weaker today
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Than they were when the attacks from israel,
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Were launched to counter the attacks that israel had had.
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But they're stronger today than they were yesterday.
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And they'll be stronger tomorrow.
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Time is of the essence.
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So the other big element
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That certainly the saudis want to hear,
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But all the arab
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States want to hear is where are we going with gaza?
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And aren't you going to make a palestinian state?
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We can't really make peace with israel, at least from riyadh
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To jerusalem, unless there's a palestinian state.
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That's what they're saying.
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Yeah.
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Now, that's president trump's position
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Historically was a demilitarized palestinian state.
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That was the deal of the century that he rolled out in,
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January 2020.
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Where are we now?
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I mean, what's,
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What is the president's position on a palestinian state,
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Given that gaza has become, you know, it
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Almost effectively was a palestinian.
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Will say it's a palestinian state.
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The people need to remember that the 10,000 jews that lived in
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Gaza were all moved by gunpoint of the idf,
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The israeli army were
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The ones who moved the jewish people out back in 2005.
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Two years later, those people voted in hamas
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To run the country.
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And it's been a disaster ever since.
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It was a de facto palestinian state.
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When people say, we need a palestinian state,
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I said, you had one called gaza.
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How'd that turn out?
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But i do think october the 7th changed everything.
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It changed it certainly inside of israel.
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Israelis who are front and center.
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Two state solution.
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You're not talking about that anymore
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Because they see that the closer you let
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People who have been trained to hate you live next to you,
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It doesn't necessarily go well.
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So when people talk about a palestinian state,
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My next question is where's this going to be? right.
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Does it have to be in judea and samaria?
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Does it have to be in land that israel,
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Really has had claim to for 30, 500 years?
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Or is it possible to say there'll be a palestinian state,
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But it's going to be in a region that has some room.
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There just isn't that much room here.
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And i remind people, muslim countries own 644 times
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The amount of real estate that israel has. 644 times.
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So when people say, how come israel doesn't give up
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Some land?
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I'm thinking, why would they?
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Would any other country in the world who won the war
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Say they do that because.
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The president is so determined to get a story?
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I mean,
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This would be the ultimate game changing mother of all peace.
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It was saudi israeli deal with u.s.
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Guarantees and so forth.
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But if the saudis are saying we need a palestinian state
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And the president is skeptical at best,
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And the team around him is pretty skeptical at best,
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How does one square that and especially
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When he's making his first stop, saudi arabia.
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I would just say stay tuned. let's see.
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And the the honest answer to that is i don't know.
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I'm not sure anybody does,
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But if anybody can pull this off is president trump.
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I've never seen anyone quite like him
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Who's able to sit down with people
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Who have a very hostile position.
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And by the time it's over, you know, they're making a deal.
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He's really good at this.
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He wrote the book on it, the art of the deal.
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And if, if it can be done,
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I don't know of anyone else who could get this done
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Other than president trump. okay.
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When we come back, i want to talk about the hostages
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And where we go from that, with that, because it's
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It's such a festering wound.
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Israelis cannot.
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It was difficult to celebrate in the 77
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Years of this modern, prophetic jewish state,
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Knowing that 24 or
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So of our countrymen are not free.
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They're not safe.
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They're being tortured.
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And maybe they're not even all alive at this point.
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So, let's talk about that in a moment.
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But one more really quick. i got to ask you. qatar.
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So he's going to qatar now.
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I'll just, you know,
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You're not the ambassador to qatar.
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I get that you're not the foreign minister,
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But, secretary state.
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But i got a problem with qatar.
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I got a problem because they are playing both sides.
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They are a deep friend of hamas.
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They host hamas leaders.
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They host. they. they love iran.
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And yet they're they've got our centcom base,
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And they're acting like our ally.
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But after all this time, 18 months.
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Why can't qatar pressure hamas to get these hostages out?
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Why is the president going to qatar?
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I think it may be in part to, to put a little encouragement
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There as
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Part of economic opportunities
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That will be beneficial
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To the us and probably to qatar as well. but,
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I would just say this the reason that ultimately hamas
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Has not bowed to the pressure,
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And there's been a lot of pressure
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From the egyptians, from the guitar is from the emirati
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Pressure has been there.
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They've got nothing else to hold on to.
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Hostages are there one last card.
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And they know that.
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We know they gave up those hostages.
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There's nothing left.
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No one there to protect them, nobody there
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To give them a reason for hanging on.
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It's a very difficult decision.
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I know from talking to hostage families,
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Which i've done almost every day that i've been here.
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You know, if this were my child, i'd say i don't care
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What you got to do. get my kid home.
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That's all i want to do. get him home.
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Then we'll worry about everything else.
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But it's not quite that easy.
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I wish it was because i have a feeling that would be done.
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But the leaders who are inside gaza running hamas
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Actually have a more hard line than the hamas leaders
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That are from the outside.
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There's a lot more willingness from those on the outside
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To get the hostages out than there are from
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The hamas leaders on the inside. all right.
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Hold that thought more.
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When we come back next on the rosenberg report.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
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Just how close are ambassador mike huckabee and israeli
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Prime minister benjamin netanyahu?
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And how does this unique
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Relationship between a devout american evangelical
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And a traditional israeli jewish man impact u.s.
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Israeli relations?
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Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after this break.
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Right after this break.
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Mr. ambassador, we only have a few minutes left.
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I want to ask you about your relationship
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With prime minister netanyahu.
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First of all, the longest serving prime minister
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In the history of modern israel and the first full night,
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Certainly the first cabinet shabbat dinner that you had.
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You and janet
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Were invited
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To be their guests, benjamin and sarah, at their home.
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What was that like?
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You know, without giving you anything that's inappropriate.
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But, you know, your relationship,
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You know, being welcomed and but you got a lot of challenges,
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To work on.
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Together in the, the years ahead.
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One of the advantages is that i've known the prime minister
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For over 30 years,
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And i've been in and out of israel, met with him.
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I don't know how many times, dozens and dozens of times
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Even went at his invitation to campaign for him
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When he was in one of his reelection in 2018.
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So we have a long standing relationship.
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It's a very warm one.
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It's a little different now
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Because i'm not just here as a friend.
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I'm representing president trump in the united states,
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So i'm not able to say anything you want.
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You got it.
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My job is to carry the message of the president.
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I tell people an ambassador is not the chemist.
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He doesn't get to make the medicine.
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He's the pharmacist.
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He just delivers it and dispenses it.
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But we do still have the kind of relationship that is very,
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Honest, forthright and trusting.
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And i would just close by this.
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I've spent so much time with the prime minister
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Since i have been here that i told him the other day.
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If i spend any more time with you, you're going to have
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To put me on your family health insurance plan as a dependent.
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I'm spending more time with you that i am with my wife.
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So what would you think of how much this has closed the gap
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From previous administration that wouldn't even invite
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The prime minister in wartime
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To the white house, to the oval office.
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Prime minister has already been there twice.
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I think you make a good point
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That, you know, if
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If trump decides just to go visit
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The arabs, it's not like he he's not blowing off the,
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The israeli prime minister and sending you.
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Yes, you're a friend and your relationship
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Has changed, but that's why he's sending you
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Is because you guys are so close and you have
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That sense of deep trust and you know each other.
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And, it's also interesting. you just have to say,
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To have the first
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His, this historic, first devout, openly,
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Devout evangelical christian be the u.s.
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Ambassador.
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And again, i was so blessed,
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I was surprised, but not in the cosmic sense of it.
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But then and i was just so amazed to see you and janet
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And your security detail walk up to us,
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Outside the garden tomb on easter.
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Resurrection sunday morning. what a blessing.
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And you couldn't say. well, we just got here.
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We're going to sleep in,
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And we wouldn't have thought any worse of you or not,
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That we would have worshiped, but, i mean, the,
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I think i have you, but thank you for doing that.
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That was such a great signal as a believer. yeah.
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Having nothing to do with being the ambassador.
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But you are the first.
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I'm sure it was ever done.
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That an incredible experience to be there on easter sunday.
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I told the president i wanted to be
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On location by the end of passover,
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And by easter sunday i made it by a day and a half, barely.
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But i made it,
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And i wasn't going to miss
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The opportunity to celebrate easter sunday
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At one of the most amazing places on earth the garden tomb.
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The empty tomb. amen.
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Thank you so much. well, thank you guys for watching.
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There's so much more.
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We will we will and could, but we will in the future.
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Discuss with, ambassador mike huckabee.
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Thank you so much for watching the show.
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Hey, please be sure to post a link to this
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Show, on your social media so your family and friends
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Can hear directly from the new ambassador.
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Don't forget to go to joshua fund.com and check out.
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And i hope you will sign
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Up for our alaska cruise the first week of august.
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I wish i could bring the ambassador and his wife,
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But now he's in this new role. he can't do that.
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He's done wonderful thing for the joshua fund in the past.
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We're very grateful.
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But check that out. it's gonna be an amazing time.
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We're not yet ready to bring,
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You know, full big large tours here to israel.
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We'll get there.
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And i think we're moving in the right direction,
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But with just with the ballistic missile,
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You know, landing at ben-gurion airport
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As i recorded, we recorded the show today.
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We're just not there.
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And this is an opportunity to
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To learn more, to be the last, to be refreshed
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And to learn what is god doing?
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And how can christians
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Be a blessing to israel and our neighbors?
00:26:08.624 --> 00:26:10.760
The alaska cruise joshua fund.com first week of august.
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Don't miss it and please check it out.
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Thank you so much for watching.
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Have a great week with you and your family.
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As you spend time in the word,
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As you walk in the power of the holy spirit,
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As you love your neighbor,
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As yourself, and as you bless israel and her neighbor
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In the name of jesus. have a great week.
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God bless you and i'll see you, lord willing,
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Next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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Joel Rosenberg: Huckabee's Take on Israel's Future | The Rosenberg Report

May 7, 2025 | 26:42

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