Joel Rosenberg: Israeli Hostage Deal Announced | The Rosenberg Report

January 16, 2025 | S25:E116

As editor in chief of the daily digital sites All Israel News and All Arab News, New York Times bestselling author Joel C. Rosenberg is a respected geo-political expert on the Middle East. Each week on The Rosenberg Report he offers a close-up view of current events and issues in this volatile region, bringing important insights and biblical perspective that viewers will find both informative and encouraging.

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  • Tonight on the rosenberg report,
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  • After 15 brutal months of war and terror,
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  • President trump and biden say the deal is done.
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  • That israel and hamas have finally agreed to release
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  • The hostages and create a cease fire in gaza.
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  • Will it really happen?
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  • What are the terms? what is the price?
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  • And what impact did incoming president trump's ultimatum
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  • Make to force hamas to come back to the table?
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  • We have an exclusive interview with israel's new ambassador
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  • To the united states, his first on any u.s.
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  • Or israeli media outlet.
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  • And we have more of our deeply moving conversation with aviva
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  • Siegel, who spent 51 days as a hostage in gaza
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  • And whose husband, keith, is still in those terror tunnels,
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  • But is on the list to be the first one out.
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  • One of the biggest weeks in modern israeli history.
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  • All this and more tonight on the rosenberg report.
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  • We have breaking news out of israel.
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  • We have a deal.
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  • We have a hostage deal.
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  • Good evening, and welcome to the rosenberg report.
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  • As things are moving quickly now,
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  • Just days before, hours before,
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  • President donald trump takes office again,
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  • He said there would be hell to pay if hamas didn't
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  • Release all the hostages.
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  • But there is a deal now.
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  • It is dramatic.
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  • And in a moment, we're going to talk to one of the women
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  • Who was an israeli hostage and whose husband is in gaza.
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  • And, lord willing, he is about to be released.
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  • We're going to get to that.
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  • We're also going to show you a little bit of my interview
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  • With the new israeli ambassador,
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  • Yechiel liter.
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  • But first, let's talk about what do we know
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  • At this hour about this dramatic hostage deal.
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  • It was president elect trump on wednesday
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  • Who first told the world the deal was done.
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  • Writing on his truth social account.
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  • Soon, president biden confirmed it
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  • In white house remarks to the press.
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  • All day thursday, israel and hamas
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  • Continued arguing over precise, final language.
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  • But as best as we can tell,
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  • Here are the basic contours of the deal.
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  • Phase one.
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  • Not every israeli is happy.
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  • Someone could still blow up the deal on either side.
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  • But that's where we are so far.
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  • Now, i just spoke
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  • To the new incoming israeli ambassador to the united states
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  • Dr. yechiel liter.
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  • I interviewed him as all of this was starting to unfold.
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  • We didn't know exactly at that point
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  • Whether the deal was done,
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  • But the but the prospect of a deal was rising.
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  • And it's interesting because,
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  • You know, next week, lord willing,
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  • On the rosenberg report, we're going to do a full show.
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  • So you can meet yechiel liter.
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  • The new israeli ambassador to washington - hear his story.
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  • He has a son.
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  • His oldest son, gave his life as the commander of an israeli
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  • Military unit fighting against hamas in gaza
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  • To get those hostages back and to defeat the hamas
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  • Terrorist organization.
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  • And he has spent the last more than a year grieving his son.
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  • We're going to talk to him. who is it?
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  • Who is yechiel liter?
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  • And, we're going to get to know him more,
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  • In the upcoming show, but but i had a chance to talk to him.
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  • This was his first interview on any israeli or american outlet.
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  • Let's take a look at what he says about
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  • When i asked him, do you think that president trump's,
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  • You know, demand that hamas
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  • Release all the hostages prior to january 20th?
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  • How is that change the dynamic?
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  • Take a look at what he said.
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  • Doctor yechiel liter
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  • You are the new israeli ambassador
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  • Heading to washington in just the coming days.
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  • There's a lot going on.
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  • First of all, we're praying for you.
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  • I know you had a little,
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  • Light surgery to deal with some, potential skin cancer.
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  • Right? so this is your, your wound.
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  • Well, this is just.
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  • You didn't get attacked by some flying bird or something.
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  • This is to demonstrate that i've got skin in the game.
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  • Okay. fair enough. all right. good.
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  • And i'm ambassador designate.
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  • Ambassador designate. until i get there in.
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  • There's a few days, though. it's all. it's all right.
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  • New year, new ambassador, and a big topic.
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  • You know. administration, new administration. yeah.
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  • Everything is changing.
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  • And you are prime minister netanyahu's point,
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  • Man, at a moment where as you and i record this,
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  • Suddenly we've gone from feeling like almost no chance
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  • Of a hostage deal to suddenly, there's a lot of talk
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  • That a deal is is about to be done.
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  • Now we want to temper that.
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  • Things can go in any direction, but
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  • What can you tell us about the prime minister's approach
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  • And his redlines on making a deal
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  • And the the impact of president elect trump's,
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  • Very forceful and repeated statements.
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  • There will be hell to pay if hamas does not release
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  • All these hostages by january 20th.
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  • I want to talk about the prime minister's attitude towards
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  • Negotiations with hamas,
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  • And what our security concerns
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  • Are in the context of those negotiations.
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  • But i'll start with the last thing you said, joel,
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  • Because i think it's perhaps the most important
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  • When president elect trump said,
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  • There's going to be hell to pay
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  • If those hostages aren't released.
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  • I think it goes to the depth of understanding of what
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  • We're dealing with.
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  • The hostages are living in hell.
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  • And to say that there's going to be hell
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  • To pay means that there's recognition that holding people
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  • Hostage is simply not something that's acceptable.
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  • This goes back almost been normalized.
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  • It's almost been normalized when we're were negotiating,
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  • When negotiating with an organization
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  • That grabs people out of their bedrooms,
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  • Men, women and children, elderly
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  • And the sickly, and holds them in tunnels underground.
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  • Let's appreciate that some of these tunnels
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  • Are 40 50m yards underground.
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  • They can barely. take an hour.
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  • I've seen them. you've seen them?
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  • They can barely. they can barely breathe.
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  • They're dungeons. really? people can.
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  • You can't stand up straight and some of them have been there.
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  • Most of them who are still there have been there for,
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  • Over a year. well over a year.
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  • Year and a quarter.
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  • Almost a longer than the amount of time that the
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  • American hostages were held in the embassy in tehran.
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  • And the iranians at the time, khomeini's regime
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  • Was afraid of ronald reagan entering the white house.
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  • And it was that night of the inauguration
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  • That the iranian government released the american hostages
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  • Just in anticipation of reagan entering the white house.
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  • And i think that
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  • There's anticipation now of president
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  • Trump entering the white house and the ramifications
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  • Of holding people, human beings in hell.
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  • I mean, this is a concept
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  • In the ten commandments that's discussed, not to steal.
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  • Includes not stealing people. right.
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  • And holding them hostage.
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  • What significance would you put on
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  • President trump's repeated and very bold statements in it?
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  • Has it, in fact changed the dynamic?
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  • Suddenly we're all talking about a possible hostage deal
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  • When it felt like months and months and months
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  • Were going by with with almost no talk about it at all.
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  • So here, it's very important for us
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  • To appreciate the ramifications of a deal with the
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  • Hamas terror organization
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  • And the concerns of the prime minister.
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  • He's really facing a solomonic decision here,
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  • Because any release of
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  • Hamas terrorists means that we're going to be facing
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  • Terrorism once again.
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  • And we've had these exchanges in the past
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  • And every single time we've paid with human lives,
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  • The prime minister has to weigh,
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  • You know, this
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  • Really very difficult decision about releasing the hostages
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  • On the one hand, and knowing that in the
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  • Releasing, getting the prisoners release.
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  • Getting out, getting our hostages released.
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  • Right, in return for
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  • A return for their terrorists. exactly.
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  • So, you know,
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  • And it's also,
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  • It includes the issues of our border
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  • Security, you know, are these terrorists going back
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  • Into the very same area
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  • From which they already fired missiles onto our civilians,
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  • Into the areas from which they already took the hostages?
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  • I know prime minister netanyahu for over 30 years,
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  • And i know his sensitivity towards, human suffering.
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  • And i know how much he cares about the hostages,
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  • But he cares about
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  • Every israeli as well, and he cares
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  • About every soldier as well.
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  • And that's why there has to be
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  • This proper balance that only a real leader can weigh and take.
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  • Ultimately.
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  • So it's a it's a very, very difficult decision.
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  • He's doing it in a measured and careful fashion,
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  • And he's already released,
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  • Over half of the hostages, some of them alive,
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  • Unfortunately, some of them, no longer alive.
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  • But i believe that he is pursuing.
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  • And some rescues, of course,
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  • Which were also very difficult decisions.
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  • You know, you're sending
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  • Special ops into these tunnels to remove
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  • And secure the release of these hostages.
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  • So these were very difficult decisions.
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  • The prime minister is uniquely positioned
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  • To make these difficult decisions.
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  • And i think the vast majority of israelis who have repeatedly
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  • Expressed their,
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  • Support
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  • For prime minister netanyahu will support a deal
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  • That he brings
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  • And know
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  • That it's the best deal
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  • That we can get under the circumstances.
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  • Last point, first of all, i want to congratulate you
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  • On this appointment.
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  • It's again, new year, new administration, new ambassador.
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  • I first met you about 20 years ago.
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  • I'm very encouraged by you being the prime minister and israel.
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  • That the israeli people's point man to our most important ally.
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  • Thank you.
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  • You also are unique.
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  • And we're going to talk about
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  • Next week when we spent a whole show on who you are.
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  • What's your story?
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  • Why did netanyahu choose you
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  • And what unique qualifications you bring to this job,
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  • A critical job at a critical time, as we said.
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  • But one of that,
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  • Just briefly, is the fact that you lost your oldest son
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  • Fighting in gaza as a special forces reserve officer.
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  • How does the weight of that affect how you see the p.m.
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  • And how the prime minister sees his decision making process?
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  • Well, it's a very personal microcosm
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  • Of what the entire israeli civilian population is facing
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  • By sending their sons into the field of battle.
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  • My, son david was,
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  • A soldier of my oldest son's moshe's company.
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  • And as they were entering gaza, david went up to moshe
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  • And said, you know, the missiles are flying over our heads.
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  • The ground is shaking, i'm afraid, and my oldest son,
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  • Who is the commander,
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  • Put his arm on his younger brother and said,
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  • Yeah, i'm afraid too,
  • 00:12:12.054 --> 00:12:13.422
  • But let's get in there and save those hostages.
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  • Let's bring them home.
  • 00:12:15.424 --> 00:12:17.026
  • So that's what everybody's committed to in israel.
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  • We don't leave hostages
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  • In the hands of hardened terrorists.
  • 00:12:24.333 --> 00:12:27.369
  • And we have risked our lives
  • 00:12:27.369 --> 00:12:30.005
  • Getting in there to save them, to bring them home.
  • 00:12:30.005 --> 00:12:33.008
  • Many soldiers have lost their lives
  • 00:12:33.008 --> 00:12:35.444
  • Pursuing my son among them to bring these hostages home. and
  • 00:12:35.444 --> 00:12:40.216
  • One thing is clear.
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  • We have to end this entire process with a complete victory
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  • Over this
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  • Terrorist organization, the proxy of iran that's intent
  • 00:12:47.256 --> 00:12:50.693
  • On destroying the state of israel
  • 00:12:50.693 --> 00:12:52.094
  • And killing as many jews as they can.
  • 00:12:52.094 --> 00:12:54.496
  • Ambassador designate,
  • 00:12:54.496 --> 00:12:56.198
  • Yechiel liter
  • 00:12:56.198 --> 00:12:57.333
  • Thank you so much for coming on the rosenberg report.
  • 00:12:57.333 --> 00:12:58.634
  • I look forward to next week with the full interview.
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  • Thank you joel, it's good to be with you.
  • 00:13:00.903 --> 00:13:03.305
  • Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
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  • We have more of our deeply
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  • Moving conversation with aviva siegel, an israeli
  • 00:13:07.843 --> 00:13:11.080
  • Woman who spent 51 days as a hostage in gaza
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  • And whose husband, keith, is still in those terror tunnels.
  • 00:13:14.717 --> 00:13:18.387
  • How did she handle the paralyzing fear within her?
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  • And how can we understand
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  • What keith and the other hostages
  • 00:13:23.125 --> 00:13:25.127
  • Are experiencing right this moment?
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  • Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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  • Right after this break.
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  • Right after this break.
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  • Aviva siegel,
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  • Thank you so much for being on the rosenberg report.
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  • You were captured by hamas on october 7th.
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  • You spent 51 horrifying days
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  • In those terror tunnels and in other places
  • 00:13:48.284 --> 00:13:50.419
  • That they moved around 13 times in gaza.
  • 00:13:50.419 --> 00:13:53.956
  • There's a lot we didn't get to get to talk about in the last
  • 00:13:53.956 --> 00:13:58.160
  • Program. so, let's start
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  • Let's start with the big picture.
  • 00:14:00.996 --> 00:14:04.266
  • You you felt so much fear.
  • 00:14:04.266 --> 00:14:06.468
  • You thought you were going to die at any moment.
  • 00:14:06.468 --> 00:14:08.971
  • How did you manage that? and again,
  • 00:14:08.971 --> 00:14:10.839
  • You know, again without i want to be sensitive, but
  • 00:14:10.839 --> 00:14:14.410
  • You don't believe in god, so you're not appealing to oh lord
  • 00:14:14.410 --> 00:14:19.148
  • You know, you're my shepherd, right, david? right.
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  • The lord is my shepherd. i shall not want.
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  • Or he leads me to the valley of the
  • 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.587
  • You know, the the shadow of death.
  • 00:14:25.587 --> 00:14:28.791
  • But i shall fear no evil.
  • 00:14:28.791 --> 00:14:29.925
  • But that's not how you roll.
  • 00:14:29.925 --> 00:14:33.896
  • So how how did you how did you make it through
  • 00:14:33.896 --> 00:14:37.599
  • 51 days?
  • 00:14:37.599 --> 00:14:39.668
  • Yeah, i know that's not a fair question, but i
  • 00:14:39.668 --> 00:14:41.637
  • I have to ask it. yeah. you know that
  • 00:14:41.637 --> 00:14:44.606
  • It's not only words for me to say that for 51 days,
  • 00:14:45.641 --> 00:14:48.944
  • I had to just be completely and utterly quiet, not talk.
  • 00:14:48.944 --> 00:14:53.649
  • When i spoke for the first time, i forgot how to talk.
  • 00:14:53.649 --> 00:14:56.618
  • And i forgot what it means to talk.
  • 00:14:56.618 --> 00:14:59.755
  • So we had to just keep quiet
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  • And lie or sit down on a filthy, dirty mattress
  • 00:15:03.058 --> 00:15:06.695
  • On the ground.
  • 00:15:07.029 --> 00:15:07.997
  • If if there was a mattress some of the time
  • 00:15:07.997 --> 00:15:09.531
  • That was just like a yoga mattress.
  • 00:15:09.531 --> 00:15:12.234
  • And i was scared so many times because we were threatened
  • 00:15:12.234 --> 00:15:15.471
  • So many times that they will kill us.
  • 00:15:15.471 --> 00:15:18.040
  • And the way that i manage to handle myself
  • 00:15:18.040 --> 00:15:22.578
  • Because i'm a person that's scared of the dark.
  • 00:15:22.578 --> 00:15:24.913
  • I'm scared of evil. i'm scared of bad people.
  • 00:15:24.913 --> 00:15:28.484
  • I used to count.
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  • I just sit down and just count one,
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  • Two, three until i got to 100.
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  • And that is to relax me.
  • 00:15:38.160 --> 00:15:40.229
  • I used to find somebody to give my hand to and hold hands.
  • 00:15:40.229 --> 00:15:44.500
  • If it was the girls or if it was keith
  • 00:15:44.500 --> 00:15:48.037
  • And i used to look in the eyes just to like,
  • 00:15:48.037 --> 00:15:50.739
  • You know, feel that i'm not alone.
  • 00:15:50.739 --> 00:15:52.107
  • And that made me
  • 00:15:52.107 --> 00:15:53.108
  • Not feel a lot of times,
  • 00:15:53.108 --> 00:15:54.910
  • Because that's the only thing we could do
  • 00:15:54.910 --> 00:15:56.945
  • If you were sad, if you were upset,
  • 00:15:56.945 --> 00:15:58.981
  • If you were missing our families,
  • 00:15:58.981 --> 00:16:01.083
  • If for a moment i was thinking about my grandchildren
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  • And just wanted to cry and i wasn't allowed to.
  • 00:16:03.986 --> 00:16:06.889
  • I used to hold myself
  • 00:16:06.889 --> 00:16:08.891
  • And just look for keith's eyes and looking it in his eyes,
  • 00:16:08.891 --> 00:16:12.428
  • And i'm sure that they did the same.
  • 00:16:12.428 --> 00:16:15.197
  • I used to,
  • 00:16:15.497 --> 00:16:16.398
  • Some of the times, sing a song in english
  • 00:16:16.398 --> 00:16:20.135
  • Out loud?
  • 00:16:20.135 --> 00:16:22.438
  • No. everything was done inside.
  • 00:16:22.438 --> 00:16:23.739
  • We had to keep silence.
  • 00:16:23.739 --> 00:16:25.707
  • So i used to say to myself, one, two, buckle my shoe.
  • 00:16:25.707 --> 00:16:29.812
  • Three, four knock on the door.
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  • And if i wasn't
  • 00:16:32.414 --> 00:16:33.649
  • The next after that, i would do it again and again and again.
  • 00:16:33.649 --> 00:16:37.019
  • And in all the buildings that we were,
  • 00:16:37.019 --> 00:16:39.188
  • The missiles that came out to israel.
  • 00:16:39.188 --> 00:16:43.125
  • So the building is...
  • 00:16:43.125 --> 00:16:44.660
  • Something we didn't cover in the previous show,
  • 00:16:44.660 --> 00:16:46.061
  • But we talked about it on the podcast was
  • 00:16:46.061 --> 00:16:48.664
  • Sometimes they moved you into buildings where rocket tours,
  • 00:16:48.664 --> 00:16:52.401
  • Where they were firing at israel.
  • 00:16:52.401 --> 00:16:54.303
  • Was that the idea that they
  • 00:16:54.303 --> 00:16:56.171
  • They thought you were going to be hit
  • 00:16:56.171 --> 00:16:57.706
  • By an israeli missile and killed,
  • 00:16:57.706 --> 00:16:59.341
  • Or that they were using you as a human shield?
  • 00:16:59.341 --> 00:17:01.777
  • What did you think was happening
  • 00:17:01.777 --> 00:17:02.945
  • When you were in these buildings
  • 00:17:02.945 --> 00:17:03.879
  • With rockets going out, out towards israel?
  • 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:06.582
  • I tried not to think because i didn't want to think
  • 00:17:06.582 --> 00:17:08.984
  • Because if i would think i would,
  • 00:17:08.984 --> 00:17:10.752
  • I would think that i would be dead every minute.
  • 00:17:10.752 --> 00:17:13.489
  • But but there were so many moments
  • 00:17:13.489 --> 00:17:15.390
  • That just wanted to die that were too difficult for me.
  • 00:17:15.390 --> 00:17:18.193
  • So when the missiles used to come out from those buildings,
  • 00:17:18.193 --> 00:17:21.663
  • The hamas terrorist used to come and say,
  • 00:17:21.663 --> 00:17:23.265
  • Don't worry, don't worry, it's us.
  • 00:17:23.265 --> 00:17:25.367
  • And they used to clap their hands and say, beautiful.
  • 00:17:25.367 --> 00:17:28.637
  • And i was disgusted.
  • 00:17:29.104 --> 00:17:30.839
  • How can they say beautiful for killing people?
  • 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.976
  • Because i'm not that kind of person.
  • 00:17:33.976 --> 00:17:36.044
  • But when it did happen, the building is to shake.
  • 00:17:36.044 --> 00:17:40.082
  • And i used to look at the ceiling and say to myself,
  • 00:17:40.082 --> 00:17:42.818
  • What is going to happen now?
  • 00:17:42.818 --> 00:17:44.319
  • It's going to fall on me.
  • 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:45.687
  • It's going to fall on keith.
  • 00:17:45.687 --> 00:17:47.122
  • Is it going to break our legs
  • 00:17:47.122 --> 00:17:49.258
  • Or break our arms?
  • 00:17:49.691 --> 00:17:50.792
  • Are we going to live or are they going
  • 00:17:50.792 --> 00:17:52.060
  • To take us to a hospital?
  • 00:17:52.060 --> 00:17:53.529
  • Are they going to just let us die slowly?
  • 00:17:53.529 --> 00:17:56.331
  • And those with thoughts that came so many times
  • 00:17:56.331 --> 00:18:00.569
  • Over and over and over, i was scared.
  • 00:18:00.569 --> 00:18:03.705
  • Aviva,
  • 00:18:03.906 --> 00:18:05.741
  • Would you take us into your home
  • 00:18:05.741 --> 00:18:09.077
  • Right on the gaza border?
  • 00:18:09.077 --> 00:18:12.447
  • On the morning of october 7th.
  • 00:18:12.447 --> 00:18:15.050
  • It was a quiet day. it's shabbat.
  • 00:18:15.050 --> 00:18:16.518
  • It was also a religious holiday, though
  • 00:18:16.518 --> 00:18:17.986
  • You guys are not religious.
  • 00:18:17.986 --> 00:18:19.121
  • But still, it meant it was a quiet.
  • 00:18:19.121 --> 00:18:20.789
  • It was supposed to be a quiet day.
  • 00:18:20.789 --> 00:18:22.658
  • How did that day begin for you?
  • 00:18:22.658 --> 00:18:24.593
  • Just to tell you that i'm not religious, but i
  • 00:18:24.593 --> 00:18:27.362
  • We have all the holidays i followed.
  • 00:18:27.362 --> 00:18:30.132
  • Youâ–ˆre traditional.
  • 00:18:30.132 --> 00:18:31.667
  • Yes. i'm very traditional.
  • 00:18:31.667 --> 00:18:33.268
  • I don't eat bread on pizza, and i fast on yom kippur.
  • 00:18:33.268 --> 00:18:38.440
  • Well, and we we celebrate all the holidays.
  • 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:42.444
  • So on that day.
  • 00:18:42.811 --> 00:18:44.580
  • As do we. yeah. so on that day,
  • 00:18:44.580 --> 00:18:48.016
  • I didn't think that anything was different
  • 00:18:48.884 --> 00:18:50.852
  • Because gaza, being living on kfar aza for more than 40 years,
  • 00:18:50.852 --> 00:18:54.690
  • We've had missiles coming from gaza for more than 20 years.
  • 00:18:54.690 --> 00:18:58.493
  • Going back into the house,
  • 00:18:58.493 --> 00:18:59.661
  • I saw
  • 00:18:59.661 --> 00:19:00.662
  • All the missiles going all over the country,
  • 00:19:00.662 --> 00:19:02.464
  • And i could see how hard they were, and i could see that
  • 00:19:02.464 --> 00:19:05.167
  • They were towards tel aviv and towards the whole country.
  • 00:19:05.167 --> 00:19:08.837
  • And it was very, very noisy.
  • 00:19:09.438 --> 00:19:11.740
  • You could hear the the whistles of the rockets
  • 00:19:11.740 --> 00:19:15.944
  • Going out of gaza.
  • 00:19:16.378 --> 00:19:18.547
  • And then we, we had another alarm
  • 00:19:18.547 --> 00:19:20.816
  • And we ran back into adult
  • 00:19:20.816 --> 00:19:22.217
  • Shelter and immediately close the door
  • 00:19:22.217 --> 00:19:24.753
  • And close the window.
  • 00:19:24.753 --> 00:19:26.054
  • And i remember that first time
  • 00:19:26.054 --> 00:19:27.489
  • That we looked at each other in the eyes
  • 00:19:27.489 --> 00:19:29.558
  • And we said to each other, it feels like the end of the world.
  • 00:19:29.558 --> 00:19:33.195
  • And that's what it felt like.
  • 00:19:33.195 --> 00:19:35.230
  • The bombers were coming and coming
  • 00:19:35.230 --> 00:19:40.302
  • My house was shaking.
  • 00:19:40.302 --> 00:19:42.070
  • And very shortly after that, somebody
  • 00:19:42.070 --> 00:19:43.839
  • On on a different whatsapp group wrote, wrote to everybody
  • 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:47.643
  • That you can hear noises that we've never heard before,
  • 00:19:47.643 --> 00:19:49.978
  • And that was a hamas terrorist killing,
  • 00:19:49.978 --> 00:19:53.181
  • People killing my next door neighbors.
  • 00:19:54.016 --> 00:19:56.318
  • You know, my neighborhood,
  • 00:19:56.318 --> 00:19:59.087
  • Most of the people are dead.
  • 00:19:59.087 --> 00:20:00.722
  • 64 people from my community were murdered,
  • 00:20:00.722 --> 00:20:04.793
  • Were burnt alive, shot and killed.
  • 00:20:04.793 --> 00:20:09.698
  • There's a mother that was lying in front of her children
  • 00:20:09.698 --> 00:20:12.968
  • For 17 hours while they hid themselves in the cupboard.
  • 00:20:12.968 --> 00:20:16.338
  • There's two babies, nine months old, that were left in the crib
  • 00:20:16.338 --> 00:20:20.742
  • With their parents killed in front of them.
  • 00:20:20.742 --> 00:20:23.945
  • So there are so many houses
  • 00:20:24.546 --> 00:20:27.449
  • On my community that there's nobody to go back to.
  • 00:20:27.449 --> 00:20:31.119
  • The moment that hamas terrorists
  • 00:20:31.753 --> 00:20:33.855
  • Came for you guys, what happened and what were you thinking?
  • 00:20:33.855 --> 00:20:37.893
  • So on that whatsapp group, somebody said that there's
  • 00:20:37.893 --> 00:20:40.829
  • Terrorists on the kibbutz.
  • 00:20:40.829 --> 00:20:42.431
  • And i remember looking at kids and not believing that.
  • 00:20:42.431 --> 00:20:45.067
  • And then i wrote on the whatsapp, go to my family
  • 00:20:45.067 --> 00:20:48.136
  • And ask them whatâ–ˆs happening in kfar aza?
  • 00:20:48.136 --> 00:20:50.405
  • And nobody answered and nobody answered.
  • 00:20:50.405 --> 00:20:54.609
  • And just a couple of weeks ago,
  • 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:56.244
  • I asked my sister, what would you answer?
  • 00:20:56.244 --> 00:20:58.313
  • And she said, i couldn't.
  • 00:20:58.313 --> 00:21:00.248
  • I was so scared for you.
  • 00:21:00.248 --> 00:21:02.284
  • I just couldn't tell you the truth.
  • 00:21:02.284 --> 00:21:04.720
  • And then my son
  • 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.089
  • Wrote to us that he's holding his fingers
  • 00:21:07.089 --> 00:21:09.358
  • And that he can hear the arabic from outside.
  • 00:21:09.358 --> 00:21:11.226
  • And we got disconnected.
  • 00:21:11.226 --> 00:21:12.961
  • So i was sure 100% that they killed my son
  • 00:21:12.961 --> 00:21:17.799
  • Because he has a
  • 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:19.167
  • Dog, and i'm sure that he protected his dog,
  • 00:21:19.167 --> 00:21:22.270
  • And they just killed him because he protected the dog.
  • 00:21:22.270 --> 00:21:25.841
  • And in gaza, i was sure for 51 days
  • 00:21:26.575 --> 00:21:29.644
  • That my son is dead.
  • 00:21:30.112 --> 00:21:32.381
  • And keith, until today does not know
  • 00:21:32.381 --> 00:21:35.050
  • That his son is alive.
  • 00:21:35.050 --> 00:21:38.587
  • Because he's still in gaza.
  • 00:21:38.587 --> 00:21:40.455
  • So we heard we started hearing the arabic
  • 00:21:40.455 --> 00:21:42.891
  • From outside and them shouting.
  • 00:21:42.891 --> 00:21:44.960
  • It was very loud and we heard all the missiles
  • 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:48.397
  • Coming and the bombs and the shooting.
  • 00:21:48.397 --> 00:21:51.533
  • And then i was holding keith's
  • 00:21:51.533 --> 00:21:54.636
  • Hands and he was holding mine,
  • 00:21:54.636 --> 00:21:56.171
  • And we were just looking at each other.
  • 00:21:56.171 --> 00:21:57.873
  • We were walking
  • 00:21:57.873 --> 00:22:00.342
  • In my house and chatting,
  • 00:22:00.342 --> 00:22:02.778
  • And i remember saying, keith, stay here next to the dog.
  • 00:22:02.778 --> 00:22:07.015
  • I was so scared.
  • 00:22:07.416 --> 00:22:09.851
  • The dog just opened it, made a noise,
  • 00:22:09.851 --> 00:22:12.621
  • I jumped, i stood up,
  • 00:22:12.621 --> 00:22:14.756
  • And what saved our lives is keith put in his
  • 00:22:14.756 --> 00:22:17.993
  • Head, on his knees and his hands on his head.
  • 00:22:17.993 --> 00:22:21.196
  • And that's what saved our lives, i screamed.
  • 00:22:21.196 --> 00:22:23.765
  • If he'd reacted, he probably would have been shot.
  • 00:22:23.765 --> 00:22:26.301
  • We would have been shot because i know
  • 00:22:26.301 --> 00:22:27.769
  • That other families
  • 00:22:27.769 --> 00:22:31.540
  • That the father was killed,
  • 00:22:31.540 --> 00:22:33.508
  • Another family that the father was killed,
  • 00:22:33.508 --> 00:22:35.710
  • And the daughter was killed because she fainted
  • 00:22:35.710 --> 00:22:38.046
  • And he just tried to protect it.
  • 00:22:38.046 --> 00:22:40.148
  • He was shot.
  • 00:22:40.482 --> 00:22:41.550
  • Yeah.
  • 00:22:41.550 --> 00:22:42.517
  • They pulled keith and they tore his shirt.
  • 00:22:42.517 --> 00:22:44.619
  • Okay.
  • 00:22:44.619 --> 00:22:45.587
  • And they pushed him and they broke his ribs
  • 00:22:45.587 --> 00:22:48.657
  • And they shot us.
  • 00:22:48.657 --> 00:22:50.792
  • There's bullets in my floor in my house, in kibbutz.
  • 00:22:50.792 --> 00:22:54.296
  • And one of them struck in one of them.
  • 00:22:55.063 --> 00:22:57.132
  • Yeah, one of them hit keith's hand.
  • 00:22:57.132 --> 00:22:58.834
  • And i'm the only one that took care of keith
  • 00:22:58.834 --> 00:23:01.136
  • And with disabilities.
  • 00:23:01.136 --> 00:23:02.838
  • Probably ever receive medical attention.
  • 00:23:02.838 --> 00:23:05.106
  • Not when you were there. not at all.
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  • We got tablets that weren't the right tablets,
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  • Because i know that
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  • When i came back, i didn't get the right medication
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  • And i'm very worried about keith,
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  • But i was the only one that took care of keith.
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  • And while he was, they used to beg them
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  • Just to lie
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  • Down for five minutes because he was in so much pain.
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  • And they used to smile at him and say, no. wow.
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  • And i was just not
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  • My whole body was
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  • So sore for keith, knowing how much pain he was in.
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  • So how did you get to gaza that they
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  • What actually happened between them taking you captive
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  • And taking you all the way inside.
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  • In such a brutal way?
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  • They pulled us out of the back window and they pulled me in,
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  • And i broke something in my knee
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  • Just doing that and suffering until now.
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  • From me pulling me out of my house,
  • 00:23:52.487 --> 00:23:55.023
  • They walked us and they took us in keith's car.
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  • They took keith scores and we went with them to gaza.
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  • We flew, i think a car.
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  • He went the fastest that he could in any car that go.
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  • So i felt like we were flying into your.
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  • Bumping because you weren't on a road.
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  • There's no road.
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  • We were. bumping.
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  • Across, fields. yes.
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  • One terrorist was sitting next to me
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  • With with these with a knife in front of my face.
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  • Is that. right? wow.
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  • And the other one was the guy with the gun
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  • In front of both of our faces in front of us.
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  • Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
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  • What exactly happened on october 7th
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  • When hamas terrorists captured and tortured aviva siegel
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  • And her husband, keith, and dragged them into gaza?
  • 00:24:37.899 --> 00:24:41.536
  • Why is this hostage deal so urgent
  • 00:24:41.536 --> 00:24:44.406
  • To save keith's life
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  • And the lives of nearly 100 hostages still in that
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  • Hamas hell?
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  • Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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  • Right after the break.
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  • Right after the break.
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  • We have to close
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  • Unfortunately, we're out of time.
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  • But what was when you were released?
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  • What was the last thing
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  • Or couple things that you said to keith?
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  • What was that moment like?
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  • We don't have too much time, but i want to ask.
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  • When i saw keith, they didn't let me go.
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  • So i go back to keith.
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  • But when i did see him lying
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  • On a filthy, dirty mattress and looking at the ceiling,
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  • He looked sad
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  • Because it was the first time
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  • That we were separated in different rooms.
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  • I bent down to him and i said to him,
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  • You be strong for me, and i'll be strong for you.
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  • And you know how lucky i am that i did say that,
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  • Because that's keeping me, and i'm sure that is keeping keith.
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  • And i know that keith is doing as much as he can to keep alive,
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  • To keep strong, to come back alive to us.
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  • I can't wait to meet him.
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  • Have even thank you for sharing your story.
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  • His story.
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  • God bless you.
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  • We are here with you every step of the way.
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  • Way to go. amen. amen.
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  • Thank you so much for watching.
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  • Very hard.
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  • It's a terrible story to hear,
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  • But i wanted to hear it directly.
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  • That's what we're doing with the rosenberg report.
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  • We're giving you a chance
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  • To hear from the leaders at the top of the top,
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  • To people who who were at the bottom in the pit,
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  • In the pit of hell have even got out.
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  • We're praying that keith will be released soon.
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  • Immediately. please pray for that as well.
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  • And family on social media.
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  • Encourage them, urge them to watch this story and to hear
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  • And to understand and to pray and to do anything they can
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  • To pressure every government possible
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  • To put leverage on hamas to let every single hostage out.
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  • You can go to rosenberg report.tv
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  • And of course, our youtube channel to get those links.
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  • Thank you so much.
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  • May god bless you as you
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  • Savor and appreciate all that god has given you.
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  • Freedom, food, water, friends, fellowship.
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  • May god give you a peaceful week and may god
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  • Set these prisoners free, these hostages free.
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  • And lord willing, i'll see you next week.
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  • Right here on the rosenberg report.
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  • Thank thank you.
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  • Thank you so much.
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  • Thank you. so grateful for you.
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  • Thank you. honor to talk to.
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