As editor in chief of the daily digital sites All Israel News and All Arab News, New York Times bestselling author Joel C. Rosenberg is a respected geo-political expert on the Middle East. Each week on The Rosenberg Report he offers a close-up view of current events and issues in this volatile region, bringing important insights and biblical perspective that viewers will find both informative and encouraging.
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The Rosenberg Report | Joel Rosenberg: Israeli Hostage Speaks Out | The Rosenberg Report | January 9, 2025
- Tonight on the rosenberg report, for the first time,
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- I'll introduce you to an israeli woman who was taken hostage
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- On october 7th and was tortured
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- And starved by hamas in gaza for 51 days.
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- Her husband, shot and beaten, is still in gaza, trapped
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- In those terror tunnels.
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- What are you going to say
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- To keith when you see him face to face?
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- You know, i've been thinking about it lately because
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- What exactly was she forced to endure?
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- What was her greatest fear?
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- What's your message to president biden as he leaves office
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- And to president trump as he takes office?
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- Does she believe
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- That the rumors are true, that a hostage deal is imminent?
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- All this and more tonight and a very special edition
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- Of the rosenberg report.
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- Can you even imagine
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- What it would have been like
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- To be taken hostage by hamas savages?
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- On the morning of october 7th, 2023,
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- A beautiful, quiet shabbat and then live day after day
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- After day, being tortured, starved,
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- Punished in darkness,
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- In those terror tunnels in gaza.
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- Well, you don't have to imagine.
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- We're going to talk to someone tonight
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- For the first time on the rosenberg report.
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- We've talked about many people.
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- High level leaders we've talked to.
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- I've taken you into gaza.
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- We've talked to hostage families.
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- But for the first time on the rosenberg report,
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- We're going to meet a woman
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- Who was taken hostage on october 7th,
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- Who spent 51 days in those terror tunnels,
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- As well as in other locations throughout gaza.
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- As they moved her around
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- And then was released.
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- But her story doesn't end there, because not only does she care
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- For all the other 101 hostages that remain in gaza to this day,
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- And we're on the 461st day of captivity,
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- But her husband, keith, is there as well.
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- He was shot.
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- She doesn't know his status.
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- And now there's talk that a deal might be imminent.
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- Is that real?
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- Or is that psychological warfare from hamas?
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- Good evening and welcome to the rosenberg report.
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- If you listen to the inside the epicenter
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- Podcast of the joshua fund, you know that
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- My wife, lynn and i met aviva siegel in december.
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- We had an opportunity in washington, d.c.,
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- To sit with her and her daughter
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- Met her son as well, and talk to her for a podcast,
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- On inside the epicenter.
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- Talking to her about her story
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- And this is now her
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- Her opportunity for me to ask her to talk about her story,
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- About her and keith here on the rosenberg report.
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- Aviva siegel, thank you so much for being on
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- The rosenberg report.
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- We are all been praying for you christians
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- All over the united states, all over the world.
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- I'm so honored to just be able to sit with you face to face
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- And talk about your story.
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- So first i want to say thank you.
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- And i want to say thank you
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- For everybody that's listening to us.
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- And i want to just tell everybody that
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- I know what it feels being in gaza.
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- I know what it's like,
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- And i'm going to do everything i can to get my husband, keith,
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- And to get the girls that i was with-
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- Sweet and young.
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- They're going through hell,
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- And i'm going to do everything i can to get
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- All the hostages out.
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- The ones that are alive and the ones that are dead.
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- They need all to come home.
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- As you and i
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- Have met in our sitting here this week, there's been news.
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- I don't know if it's news, if it's real.
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- We're still trying to figure this out, but a saudi
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- Satellite network,
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- Al-sharq, put out a story,
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- Earlier this week saying that, hamas was ready to make a deal,
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- And they even released a list of 34
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- Specific names of israeli and american hostages that would
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- Be released in the first round if the deal is confirmed.
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- Now, nobody really knows at this moment.
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- Is that real?
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- Is that propaganda to try to pressure the israeli government?
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- We don't know what it is, but keith siegel,
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- Your husband, is on that list
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- As you've been processing that news,
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- What are you thinking?
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- You know that for five minutes, i've decided with myself
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- That i'm going to believe.
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- And then for one minute i said to myself,
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- No, don't believe because
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- You've believed so many times and it hadn't happened.
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- So i just want to tell you what happened this morning.
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- I opened my telephone and i saw the list.
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- And when i saw keith's name, i jumped and i started crying.
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- And then,
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- You know, i tried to hold on it and think maybe it's true.
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- And then immediately,
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- Immediately i say to myself, don't, don't do that to yourself
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- Because you're going
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- To be heartbroken again, like it's happened again.
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- Until i don't see keith in front of me.
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- It's going to be hard for me to believe
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- Because i've lost my trust.
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- Yeah. yeah.
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- I think we have to put this in combination with the fact
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- That the the prime minister's office told us on monday
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- That no official list has been given by hamas.
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- So is this the real list that didn't get to the prime
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- Minister's office yet? is it
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- A list that the the the hamas is just leaking
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- So that every family that's on the list gets their hopes up or,
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- And those that aren't
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- On the list are, you know, this is a psychological warfare.
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- And we have to add to this, there was just this video
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- Released
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- Of this young israeli woman who had been taken hostage,
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- Liri albag, we will show some of the video on the screen.
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- And, and,
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- She's pleading for her life.
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- She's
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- Urging the israeli government to make a release, an agreement.
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- But of course, hamas is demanding that they want to win.
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- They want israel out.
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- They don't want to be undertaking more.
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- So when you saw the video,
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- What was your reaction to to that, to seeing liri?
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- First of all, i think that hamas is playing games
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- And they've been playing games for a long time
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- And they're hurting us.
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- They're hurting my heart and so many others hearts.
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- And the release of liri
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- The the video that came out of liri,
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- I just was able to see the picture and was enough
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- For me to see your eyes
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- Because i know
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- Exactly where she is and i know exactly where she is.
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- And who she's with.
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- And it just broke my heart into pieces.
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- I'm very, very sensitive since then.
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- And to know that she's there and keith█s there,
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- And all the hostages, that at least 50 of them are still alive
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- Out of the 100 are going through the hell that i went through.
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- I'm broken up into pieces.
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- I just know that this guy needs to stop.
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- There's no winning by no side.
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- So many people have been injured and so many people
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- Have been killed. so many people have hurt
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- Their hearts by going through what they're going through.
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- And i think enough is enough and we need to hurry up.
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- The deal should come now, today, before it's too late.
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- You just mentioned a number
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- That i'm not sure
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- Everybody in our audience will know,
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- So let's just take a moment on it.
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- And it's a painful concept, but let's take a moment.
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- You just said that,
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- That you have the belief base, i assume, on what people are
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- Telling you in the government, the military intelligence,
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- But maybe you can explain it, that maybe only 30 or
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- So of the 101 hostages that remain are still alive.
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- Is that what you said?
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- I know of at least 50, at least 50.
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- That are alive. that are alive.
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- Are you able to tell us how you know that?
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- From people that told me.
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- They've gotten some sort of
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- Evidence from the government, the israeli intelligence,
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- On what's happening? yes, yes, yes.
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- But that also means that there could be more.
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- But we just don't know. right. all right.
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- Before we take a break, i just want to talk to you,
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- Get your reaction.
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- What's your message to president trump?
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- He's about to take office in the coming days.
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- I believe you're thinking about actually going
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- To the inauguration.
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- And you, when
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- When we spoke in december for my podcast.
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- You you had a message, but i, you know, he
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- And he gave a very strong statement.
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- He's given two
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- Now that there will be all hell to pay if the hostages
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- Aren't all released
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- By the time he takes office on january 20th.
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- You haven't had a chance to meet him yet.
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- We did connect you to, his new ambassador to israel,
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- Mike huckabee. but what's your message to him?
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- What do you want to tell him through
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- The rosenberg report tonight?
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- I want to tell him as being
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- United states, as being the strongest
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- Country in the world.
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- The whole world's
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- Looking at the united states
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- And what the united states is going to do,
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- And it needs to push to bring them out of there.
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- Keith is an american citizen.
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- It says it's his responsibility to get the hostages.
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- The american hostages, the seven american hostages
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- That are still there.
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- And i want to ask him
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- To do it as quick as possible, because i want keith
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- To come home alive. to be strong.
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- And if the way he does it isn't strong enough, to be stronger
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- And to be strong enough to change this world.
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- Nobody in this world should suffer.
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- And go to what keith and the hostages are going through,
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- And what i went through, because i know what it's like,
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- I felt it. i was there. i saw it.
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- And one of the hardest things for me
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- Was to see when they tortured keith
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- And when they tortured the girls with me.
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- All right, hold that thought.
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- I want to get i want to dial back
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- And go into the story of what it was like when we come back.
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- So don't go away.
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- And we're going to continue with, former hostage
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- Aviva siegel.
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- When we come back on the rosenberg report.
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- Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
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- How did aviva siegel survive 51 days
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- Being held hostage by hamas in gaza?
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- What message does she want to send to president
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- Joe biden in the final days while he's still in office?
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- And does she believe that god is the one that set her free?
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- Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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- Right after the break.
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- Right after the break.
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- Welcome back to the rosenberg report
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- On this very special edition as we talk to aviva siegel.
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- She was taken hostage with her
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- Husband, keith, on october 7th, 2023.
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- What was it like to actually be in those tunnels?
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- For her, for keith. what did she see?
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- What did she experience?
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- I want you to hear it firsthand. aviva.
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- Thank you again for being on the rosenberg report.
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- What did you experience?
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- I mean, you were there.
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- This is not fiction. this is not a reporter.
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- This is your personal life for 51 days.
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- I was in shock, i think, for 51 days
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- On the behavior of what i felt, what i saw.
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- And like i said that the worst for me to see them torture keith
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- And torture the girls and do whatever they want to,
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- They took us to to be feeling like
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- We're not human beings like we nothing, that we don't exist.
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- They took control of of everything of our thoughts.
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- We weren't allowed to feel.
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- If i saw...
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- If they saw that i was a little bit upset or i was crying,
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- They used to scream at me or i used to hide myself crying,
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- Put my hand on my face while i was lying down
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- And crying very quietly that they wouldn't see me crying.
- 00:11:42.825 --> 00:11:47.029
- And that had happened so many times because
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- I just couldn't handle everything that happened.
- 00:11:50.032 --> 00:11:52.968
- They controlled everything they used to starve us
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- While they used to eat in front of us.
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- They used to eat in front of you? eat in front of us.
- 00:11:58.140 --> 00:12:00.342
- And chew. they used to come in from a different room,
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- Chewing while we were starved with no food at all.
- 00:12:03.345 --> 00:12:06.749
- How many days would you go without food?
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- We weren't.
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- Not days, but for at least 24 hours.
- 00:12:11.153 --> 00:12:13.889
- Not getting anything. not anything.
- 00:12:13.889 --> 00:12:16.158
- Not a cracker. not a piece of pita.
- 00:12:16.158 --> 00:12:17.760
- Not nothing.
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- Not without.
- 00:12:18.961 --> 00:12:19.695
- What about water? and water.
- 00:12:19.695 --> 00:12:22.131
- Many, many times we had to beg for water.
- 00:12:22.131 --> 00:12:24.900
- I'll never forget one
- 00:12:24.900 --> 00:12:26.035
- Of the times that i was starting to feel dizzy.
- 00:12:26.035 --> 00:12:29.138
- And i said to keith, keith, please just ask again for water
- 00:12:29.138 --> 00:12:33.008
- Because he speaks a little bit of arabic, right?
- 00:12:33.008 --> 00:12:35.177
- He does, but we didn't really talk.
- 00:12:35.177 --> 00:12:37.279
- We really used the hands
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- With just a few, which we didn't really talk to them.
- 00:12:38.981 --> 00:12:41.717
- And he took the bottle of water that was empty,
- 00:12:41.717 --> 00:12:43.786
- The bottle for all of us, and he just hold it.
- 00:12:43.786 --> 00:12:46.789
- And we waited for the hamas terrorist to see,
- 00:12:46.789 --> 00:12:49.625
- To look that the bottles empty
- 00:12:49.625 --> 00:12:51.727
- And the hamas terrorist looked at the bottle
- 00:12:51.727 --> 00:12:53.529
- And did this as if you didn't understand.
- 00:12:53.529 --> 00:12:56.498
- And then he didn't bring us water.
- 00:12:56.498 --> 00:12:58.667
- And only after about 15 minutes he took the bottle
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- In aggressive way,
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- Filled the bottle
- 00:13:02.771 --> 00:13:03.572
- Because there was water in the tap
- 00:13:03.572 --> 00:13:05.174
- And they were drinking all the time.
- 00:13:05.174 --> 00:13:07.309
- And he brought the water and it just threw the bottle at us.
- 00:13:07.309 --> 00:13:10.045
- And it really hurt because it was just water
- 00:13:10.045 --> 00:13:14.083
- That was taken away.
- 00:13:14.550 --> 00:13:15.885
- One of the times they took us underneath the ground.
- 00:13:15.885 --> 00:13:18.921
- I'll never forget that.
- 00:13:18.921 --> 00:13:20.155
- Because you were moved around a lot, about 13?
- 00:13:20.155 --> 00:13:22.358
- 13.
- 00:13:22.358 --> 00:13:23.392
- Sometimes you're underground in those tunnels.
- 00:13:23.392 --> 00:13:25.594
- Sometimes you were moved in different
- 00:13:25.594 --> 00:13:27.229
- Apartment buildings, correct? yes. okay.
- 00:13:27.229 --> 00:13:29.398
- And one of the times they took us underneath the ground and
- 00:13:29.398 --> 00:13:33.269
- I was this close of being dead.
- 00:13:33.903 --> 00:13:36.305
- I'm so lucky to be sitting in front of you.
- 00:13:36.305 --> 00:13:39.608
- And after a couple of days, keith just looked at me
- 00:13:39.608 --> 00:13:43.012
- And he was,
- 00:13:43.012 --> 00:13:45.814
- He couldn't breathe.
- 00:13:45.814 --> 00:13:46.749
- And he said, i feel that i can't breathe.
- 00:13:46.749 --> 00:13:48.550
- Because the air is so thin down there.
- 00:13:48.550 --> 00:13:50.586
- It wasn't no oxygen there, and we were left alone
- 00:13:50.586 --> 00:13:53.923
- Underneath the ground, underneath
- 00:13:53.923 --> 00:13:55.658
- The ground, 40m underneath, underneath the ground.
- 00:13:55.658 --> 00:13:58.727
- The hamas terrorists just left us there.
- 00:13:58.727 --> 00:14:01.697
- In darkness?
- 00:14:01.697 --> 00:14:02.598
- Or did you have any light? it wasn█t...
- 00:14:02.598 --> 00:14:05.134
- It wasn't completely, utterly dark, but we had cards.
- 00:14:05.134 --> 00:14:08.537
- We wanted to play cards.
- 00:14:08.537 --> 00:14:09.672
- We couldn't even see the numbers that how dark it was.
- 00:14:09.672 --> 00:14:12.541
- And we didn't know where we were.
- 00:14:12.541 --> 00:14:15.311
- It was you, keith, and...
- 00:14:15.311 --> 00:14:18.647
- Another girl. another girl.
- 00:14:18.647 --> 00:14:20.549
- And how old was she?
- 00:14:20.549 --> 00:14:21.850
- She, she was a young girl.
- 00:14:21.850 --> 00:14:24.520
- And one of the times the terrorist came down
- 00:14:24.520 --> 00:14:27.523
- And she said to them
- 00:14:27.523 --> 00:14:28.891
- That she does not want to see
- 00:14:28.891 --> 00:14:30.092
- These old people dead, because she could see that
- 00:14:30.092 --> 00:14:32.661
- That we can't breathe
- 00:14:32.661 --> 00:14:34.096
- And that we're going to die because we couldn't move.
- 00:14:34.096 --> 00:14:36.665
- We had to lie down.
- 00:14:36.665 --> 00:14:37.933
- And when keith said that to me, i looked at him
- 00:14:37.933 --> 00:14:40.803
- In the eyes and i said, keith, just try and breathe.
- 00:14:40.803 --> 00:14:44.106
- And i remember him
- 00:14:44.540 --> 00:14:45.708
- Lying down next to me and i was scared to look at him.
- 00:14:45.708 --> 00:14:49.044
- I was scared to look at his chest
- 00:14:49.044 --> 00:14:51.480
- Because i was scared that i would look at a dead body,
- 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.516
- Because that's exactly what i felt.
- 00:14:54.516 --> 00:14:56.618
- I felt like i've got an oxygen
- 00:14:56.618 --> 00:14:59.088
- And it's getting heavy and heavy on my body, and
- 00:14:59.088 --> 00:15:02.958
- Then i'm going to die.
- 00:15:03.425 --> 00:15:04.593
- I was sure 100%
- 00:15:04.593 --> 00:15:07.363
- That i am going to die and that keith is going to die.
- 00:15:07.363 --> 00:15:11.000
- So i was scared to look at keith and i was scared to feel.
- 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:15.738
- But i remember myself saying to myself, just please,
- 00:15:15.738 --> 00:15:18.540
- Just let me die first before keith
- 00:15:18.540 --> 00:15:21.910
- And i just prayed. prayed to die.
- 00:15:21.910 --> 00:15:24.046
- Can you believe that?
- 00:15:24.046 --> 00:15:25.147
- I prayed to die because i didn't want to see keith dead.
- 00:15:25.147 --> 00:15:29.585
- How old is keith?
- 00:15:30.019 --> 00:15:31.220
- Keith is 65 years old.
- 00:15:31.220 --> 00:15:32.855
- He is the sweetest, generous,
- 00:15:32.855 --> 00:15:35.991
- Loving person you know.
- 00:15:35.991 --> 00:15:38.761
- I can't tell you in words how much he helped me.
- 00:15:38.761 --> 00:15:42.231
- He helped me to relax myself
- 00:15:42.831 --> 00:15:44.400
- So many times and he was just amazing.
- 00:15:44.400 --> 00:15:48.170
- He was the best person to be with in this situation.
- 00:15:48.170 --> 00:15:51.340
- What have you guys been married?
- 00:15:51.340 --> 00:15:53.208
- Nearly 44. years.
- 00:15:53.208 --> 00:15:54.943
- I think you guys met when you were teenagers, i believe. yes.
- 00:15:54.943 --> 00:15:57.279
- Yeah. yes.
- 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:58.213
- Wow, hold that thought. when we come back,
- 00:15:58.213 --> 00:16:00.215
- I want to talk to you a little bit further
- 00:16:00.215 --> 00:16:02.851
- About,
- 00:16:02.851 --> 00:16:04.319
- You know, what you experienced and what you're going through
- 00:16:04.319 --> 00:16:07.689
- And how christians and others
- 00:16:07.689 --> 00:16:09.324
- Can be praying for you, can stand with you.
- 00:16:09.324 --> 00:16:11.994
- What do you need from us?
- 00:16:11.994 --> 00:16:13.195
- I'll hold that thought.
- 00:16:13.195 --> 00:16:14.196
- We'll be right back on the rosenberg report.
- 00:16:14.196 --> 00:16:17.366
- Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
- 00:16:18.233 --> 00:16:20.736
- While aviva was being tortured and starved by hamas in gaza.
- 00:16:20.736 --> 00:16:25.874
- Did she turn to god in prayer?
- 00:16:25.874 --> 00:16:28.477
- Did she ask for his mercy?
- 00:16:28.477 --> 00:16:30.446
- Does she give him credit
- 00:16:30.446 --> 00:16:31.780
- For setting her free in the only successful hostage deal
- 00:16:31.780 --> 00:16:35.818
- So far?
- 00:16:35.818 --> 00:16:37.052
- And what's this israeli jewish woman's message
- 00:16:37.052 --> 00:16:39.888
- To christians as her husband's nightmare continues?
- 00:16:39.888 --> 00:16:43.725
- Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
- 00:16:43.725 --> 00:16:47.763
- Right after the break.
- 00:16:47.763 --> 00:16:50.007
- Right after the break.
- 00:16:50.007 --> 00:16:54.237
- Aviva, i want to ask you more
- 00:16:54.871 --> 00:16:56.506
- About what you experience so that people can understand
- 00:16:56.506 --> 00:17:00.243
- What it was like to be held hostage by hamas in gaza.
- 00:17:00.243 --> 00:17:04.881
- But i want to ask you first,
- 00:17:04.881 --> 00:17:06.749
- You've met president biden three times,
- 00:17:06.749 --> 00:17:09.519
- And i don't want to seem like a partizan.
- 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:10.720
- I asked you about what your message was to president trump
- 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.424
- But there are still days left in the biden term.
- 00:17:14.424 --> 00:17:17.894
- What what did you guys talk about?
- 00:17:17.894 --> 00:17:20.296
- And what is your message to him in these final days?
- 00:17:20.296 --> 00:17:23.266
- You know, i've been thinking about president biden,
- 00:17:23.266 --> 00:17:26.769
- And i wish and pray that keith comes home
- 00:17:26.769 --> 00:17:30.073
- While biden is still the prime minister,
- 00:17:30.073 --> 00:17:33.476
- Because he really deserves it.
- 00:17:33.476 --> 00:17:34.744
- I know that he's been doing so much
- 00:17:34.744 --> 00:17:38.948
- For the last
- 00:17:39.282 --> 00:17:40.683
- Year, more than a year, to take keith out,
- 00:17:40.683 --> 00:17:44.587
- And it's just such a pity that it's not going to be
- 00:17:44.587 --> 00:17:48.024
- Written down in his name.
- 00:17:48.024 --> 00:17:49.259
- And i would really,
- 00:17:49.259 --> 00:17:50.527
- Really love that because i know how much effort he█s put into it
- 00:17:50.527 --> 00:17:54.330
- When you first met him, what did he ask you?
- 00:17:54.330 --> 00:17:59.068
- What did you tell him?
- 00:17:59.068 --> 00:18:01.337
- I told him what i went through
- 00:18:01.337 --> 00:18:03.206
- And what keith is going through, and the girls.
- 00:18:03.206 --> 00:18:06.242
- I told him how difficult it is and how much i think
- 00:18:06.242 --> 00:18:12.148
- And really believe that they need to come out
- 00:18:12.148 --> 00:18:14.584
- As soon as possible,
- 00:18:14.584 --> 00:18:15.652
- Because it's just not human to leave them there.
- 00:18:15.652 --> 00:18:18.655
- And when we were sitting at the table with bibi,
- 00:18:18.655 --> 00:18:21.591
- Netanyahu and biden together, the american families.
- 00:18:21.591 --> 00:18:26.563
- This was in tel aviv when the president came here?
- 00:18:26.563 --> 00:18:28.765
- No, no, no, no, in washington.
- 00:18:28.765 --> 00:18:31.100
- Okay.
- 00:18:31.100 --> 00:18:32.202
- And i said to them that it's the most cruelest thing
- 00:18:32.202 --> 00:18:35.438
- To leave human beings that feel
- 00:18:35.438 --> 00:18:38.141
- Underneath the ground and treated like they are,
- 00:18:39.142 --> 00:18:41.878
- That everybody needs to do as much as they can
- 00:18:41.878 --> 00:18:45.381
- To take them out.
- 00:18:45.381 --> 00:18:46.749
- But keith isn't there yet, so
- 00:18:46.749 --> 00:18:49.752
- I don't want to thank anybody until keith is out.
- 00:18:49.752 --> 00:18:52.989
- But i do thank the hard work that he's been doing until now,
- 00:18:52.989 --> 00:18:57.794
- And just pray that keith will come home today.
- 00:18:57.794 --> 00:19:01.431
- You mentioned in the previous segment
- 00:19:02.232 --> 00:19:04.601
- That you were praying at one point that you just would die.
- 00:19:04.601 --> 00:19:08.037
- You now you're talking about prayer.
- 00:19:08.037 --> 00:19:09.439
- Are you from a religious background?
- 00:19:09.439 --> 00:19:11.774
- Do you have a faith in god? what?
- 00:19:11.774 --> 00:19:14.244
- I don't want to pry, so if it's too sensitive.
- 00:19:14.244 --> 00:19:17.113
- But you mentioned prayer a couple times.
- 00:19:17.113 --> 00:19:20.617
- How... yeah... what is your
- 00:19:21.217 --> 00:19:23.686
- You have a spiritual life, you believe that god exists?
- 00:19:23.686 --> 00:19:27.023
- That he█s watching?
- 00:19:27.023 --> 00:19:29.559
- I'm not a believer.
- 00:19:30.026 --> 00:19:31.594
- I'm sorry.
- 00:19:31.594 --> 00:19:32.528
- I'm really sorry to disappoint everybody,
- 00:19:32.528 --> 00:19:35.098
- But i can't be anybody else.
- 00:19:35.098 --> 00:19:36.899
- I can only be myself. but i didn't believe.
- 00:19:36.899 --> 00:19:39.235
- And i've never believed from all our lives.
- 00:19:39.235 --> 00:19:42.305
- But i do...
- 00:19:42.305 --> 00:19:43.273
- Are you certain that you would be an atheist
- 00:19:43.273 --> 00:19:44.907
- Or that you're not sure if god exists.
- 00:19:44.907 --> 00:19:46.309
- But so you're not a believer. you're an agnostic.
- 00:19:46.309 --> 00:19:48.411
- No, i don't believe.
- 00:19:48.411 --> 00:19:50.046
- I believe in what happens now.
- 00:19:50.046 --> 00:19:53.049
- I believe that everybody should be good
- 00:19:53.049 --> 00:19:56.686
- To each other.
- 00:19:57.020 --> 00:19:58.254
- I believe in good.
- 00:19:58.254 --> 00:19:59.389
- I believe... i'm against hate.
- 00:19:59.389 --> 00:20:02.725
- I think that hate brought the hamas terrorists to behave
- 00:20:02.725 --> 00:20:06.429
- Like they behave.
- 00:20:06.429 --> 00:20:07.830
- And then the amount of hate that they had for us,
- 00:20:07.830 --> 00:20:11.167
- The way they treated us was unbelievable.
- 00:20:11.167 --> 00:20:14.304
- We innocent people, we peacemakers, keith and i both
- 00:20:14.304 --> 00:20:17.740
- Want good for the whole world, for all people that love.
- 00:20:17.740 --> 00:20:22.245
- We've been born to live, not to be killing each other
- 00:20:22.245 --> 00:20:25.381
- And to be dead
- 00:20:25.381 --> 00:20:26.816
- And not to be brought with our pajamas
- 00:20:26.816 --> 00:20:29.719
- Underneath the ground and feeling like we're going to die.
- 00:20:29.719 --> 00:20:33.189
- That for sure we haven't been born for.
- 00:20:33.189 --> 00:20:35.958
- So i believe that people need to be good.
- 00:20:35.958 --> 00:20:39.729
- So... does
- 00:20:40.029 --> 00:20:42.932
- It make you uncomfortable if i say i want to,
- 00:20:42.932 --> 00:20:45.435
- I would encourage christians to pray for you?
- 00:20:45.435 --> 00:20:48.104
- We prayed together with you.
- 00:20:48.104 --> 00:20:49.739
- But again, i want to be sensitive
- 00:20:49.739 --> 00:20:51.074
- Because i don't really know you well enough to know.
- 00:20:51.074 --> 00:20:53.176
- Not at all. because i've had
- 00:20:53.176 --> 00:20:54.677
- We've had my wife and i, lynn, you met lynn.
- 00:20:54.677 --> 00:20:57.080
- We've had people that we've met,
- 00:20:57.080 --> 00:20:59.816
- Hostage families as well as people
- 00:20:59.816 --> 00:21:01.384
- That live on the border and went through this trauma.
- 00:21:01.384 --> 00:21:03.686
- Some, you know, many it's pretty secular area.
- 00:21:03.686 --> 00:21:07.156
- Right on that gaza border.
- 00:21:07.156 --> 00:21:09.425
- Some have been very grateful, touched even, i would say,
- 00:21:09.425 --> 00:21:11.894
- By the compassion of christians and others to pray.
- 00:21:11.894 --> 00:21:14.997
- But others have...
- 00:21:14.997 --> 00:21:15.798
- My wife was told directly,
- 00:21:15.798 --> 00:21:19.302
- F your god, we don't i don't know who you're praying to.
- 00:21:20.436 --> 00:21:24.073
- I don't want have anything. so there was a reaction.
- 00:21:24.073 --> 00:21:26.042
- There was a very angry reaction. how could there be a god, if...?
- 00:21:26.042 --> 00:21:29.045
- So, yeah, what do you want me to tell christians?
- 00:21:29.045 --> 00:21:31.647
- I have been told so many times i've got a sister that she's
- 00:21:31.647 --> 00:21:35.551
- Religious.
- 00:21:35.551 --> 00:21:37.186
- So i've been told so many times that i'm
- 00:21:37.186 --> 00:21:40.423
- The most religious person in us.
- 00:21:40.423 --> 00:21:43.526
- Because i believe in good.
- 00:21:43.526 --> 00:21:46.062
- And i'm a good person, and i want everybody
- 00:21:46.062 --> 00:21:48.364
- To have a good life.
- 00:21:48.364 --> 00:21:49.866
- And i do things
- 00:21:49.866 --> 00:21:52.034
- With my heart.
- 00:21:52.034 --> 00:21:53.970
- And it's not less than being religious, it's
- 00:21:53.970 --> 00:21:56.739
- Just that i believe in myself, being a good person.
- 00:21:56.739 --> 00:21:59.776
- And i believe that everybody in this world should be,
- 00:21:59.776 --> 00:22:02.178
- Should be good to each other.
- 00:22:02.178 --> 00:22:04.480
- So when just to be clear,
- 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:05.748
- When you say, i'm praying for this or i'm praying for that,
- 00:22:05.748 --> 00:22:07.583
- You really mean i, i'm hoping, i'm, i'm wishing.
- 00:22:07.583 --> 00:22:10.119
- But it's not like some
- 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:11.521
- There's not a supernatural power that's going to help you.
- 00:22:11.521 --> 00:22:14.056
- That's my kind of prayer.
- 00:22:14.056 --> 00:22:15.825
- It's my kind of prayer.
- 00:22:15.825 --> 00:22:16.859
- And i really appreciate people that do what they feel
- 00:22:16.859 --> 00:22:20.229
- From the heart, because you as a christian,
- 00:22:20.229 --> 00:22:22.532
- I know that when you pray, you do it from your heart.
- 00:22:22.532 --> 00:22:25.735
- You do it from the inside of your heart.
- 00:22:25.735 --> 00:22:28.905
- And and it comes from there. so i
- 00:22:28.905 --> 00:22:31.707
- Pray from the inside of my heart,
- 00:22:32.442 --> 00:22:35.511
- And that's what i believe in.
- 00:22:35.511 --> 00:22:37.880
- I want good. yeah.
- 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:40.249
- In the final moments that we have here,
- 00:22:40.249 --> 00:22:44.754
- What are you going to say
- 00:22:45.321 --> 00:22:46.255
- To keith when you see him face to face?
- 00:22:46.255 --> 00:22:50.126
- You know, i've been thinking about it lately because,
- 00:22:50.126 --> 00:22:53.062
- You know, talking about maybe there's going to be a release of
- 00:22:53.062 --> 00:22:56.599
- The hostages and
- 00:22:56.999 --> 00:22:59.936
- I'm going to tell him, keith, from this minute,
- 00:22:59.936 --> 00:23:02.271
- You're the king of the world.
- 00:23:02.271 --> 00:23:04.140
- And your my king.
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- Whatever you want.
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- I mean, whatever you want.
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- Just say so and i█ll be there for you.
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- I'm going to help keith, and i'm going to help the girls
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- That was with.
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- And, you know, the mother of liri,
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- She wrote down a message
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- That when she comes out, she's going to take care of her.
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- So i immediately wrote liri█s mother,
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- That i'm going to do everything i can
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- For her daughter to come back to herself
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- And to be happy again.
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- And you've got four kids, right?
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- You and keith have four kids.
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- They're grown.
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- What a moment that's going to be.
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- Wow. i'm going to scream.
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- I know.
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- Jump, maybe faint, i don't know.
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- I hope we can sit down with the two of you
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- When this is all over, when you've had time
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- But to hear his story.
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- Thank you so much.
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- We've got to close.
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- I feel badly for this, but we are out of time.
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- Thank you so much for watching the rosenberg report.
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- Most of you who watch this program are believers.
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- You do believe in the god of israel,
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- The god of abraham, isaac, and jacob.
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- And you believe that yeshua jesus is the messiah
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- And that he is a prayer, hearing and a prayer answering god.
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- For those of you who believe as i do, pray, keep praying.
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- I think the fact that aviva stayed alive
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- And was released itself was a miracle.
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- And we are praying for a miracle.
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- We are praying that
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- The lord would set the captives free,
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- Whether it's under president biden,
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- Whether it's under president trump, the combination,
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- Whatever it is.
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- And we pray for wisdom for each of these leaders
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- As well as the prime minister of israel.
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- Thank you so much for watching.
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- Make this the focus of your heart and your prayers
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- This week and mobilize everyone you can show this program
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- To everyone you know on social media.
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- You can go to rosenberg report.tv.
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- You can go to our youtube channel. but show it.
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- Let people hear of aviva█s story.
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- Let them hear keith's story.
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- So that they will be moved to pray, to take action
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- And to push,
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- Push the american government, the israeli government,
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- And any world arab government that has leverage over hamas.
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- That's the ultimate.
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- It's israel's doing everything it possibly can.
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- It's hamas.
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- It's evil, cruel and holding on.
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- In a wicked, wicked fashion.
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- God bless you.
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- Thank you so much for watching this program.
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- May god give you a peaceful week.
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- Make sure you enjoy and say thank you to the lord
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- For all the blessings he's giving you,
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- The freedom that you have,
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- The air that you have, the food and water that you have.
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- Let's not take that for granted and lord willing
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- I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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