Joel Rosenberg: Israel’s Ambassador to the Christian World | The Rosenberg Report

May 21, 2026 | 21:48

On this episode of The Rosenberg Report, George Deek joins Joel Rosenberg to talk about being Israel’s first ambassador to the Christian world.

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  • Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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  • For the first time in its history,
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  • Israel has appointed an ambassador
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  • To the christian world.
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  • And he's granted us his first sit down tv interview.
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  • Who is ambassador george deek?
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  • What are his qualifications?
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  • What's his mandate
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  • And what's his message to evangelicals
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  • And to all christians at this critical moment?
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  • It's an exclusive interview with israel's first ever
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  • Ambassador to 2.5 billion followers of jesus.
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  • And it's all right here, right now on the rosenberg
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  • Report.
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  • Anybody that's
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  • Been watching this show knows that for the last several years.
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  • Actually, for seven years, i've been advocating that israel
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  • Appoint an ambassador to the christian world,
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  • Somebody whose portfolio is entirely about responding
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  • To questions, concerns, complaints, attacks
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  • Against christians
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  • That live here in israel
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  • Or against israel and the jewish people in general.
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  • And i think it's more urgent than ever.
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  • And you'll recall that when i did an interview with
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  • Israel's new at that point, foreign minister sa█ar
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  • One of the first questions i asked him when he gave me
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  • The first interview of any tv interview that he'd done,
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  • I asked him if he would appoint the first ever
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  • Israeli ambassador to the christian world.
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  • What's your view of?
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  • Would it make sense
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  • To appoint someone who specifically in israeli
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  • To to speak specifically to the christian world?
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  • Because that's in the the us, the israeli ambassador
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  • To the us,
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  • The israeli ambassador to england, brazil, wherever
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  • The christians are part of their portfolio,
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  • But they don't have a specific focus.
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  • Is that a good idea or is that sort of a diversion,
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  • A distraction that.
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  • It should be considered?
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  • And i will consider that.
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  • But the most important thing is to understand
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  • That christian believers are and
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  • Allies and supporters of the
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  • State of israel, and can be a great
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  • Asset in our struggle for our rights.
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  • And that has now been done.
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  • Good evening and welcome to the rosenberg report.
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  • I'm very happy to
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  • Report to you that just in the last few weeks,
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  • Foreign minister
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  • Has made that appointment in full support and cooperation
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  • With israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu.
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  • This is encouraging
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  • Because there are a lot of attacks
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  • Coming from multiple directions against israel,
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  • And there's a lot of confusion
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  • In elements of the christian world.
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  • And today we have ambassador george deek.
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  • He is the man that's been appointed to this job.
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  • And this is his first television interview in his new role.
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  • Ambassador george deek, welcome to the rosenberg report.
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  • Thank you for having me.
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  • Now, you and i had not known each other
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  • Except by twitter, which maybe is enough in this.
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  • In this digital age,
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  • You and i
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  • Have been following each other
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  • And i was intrigued with your role.
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  • 18 years you've been a diplomat.
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  • Last six years in a very challenging environment.
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  • Israel's ambassador to azerbaijan, israel's only
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  • Shia muslim ally located in central asia.
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  • Really challenging assignment in a time of war
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  • Between azerbaijan and armenia.
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  • So good job in in representing israel during this.
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  • Well, let's just get started.
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  • Why were you appointed at this particular moment?
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  • We say right in the jewish calendar.
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  • Why is this night different from all other night
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  • After seven years or so of various people,
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  • Not just me advocating for this role?
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  • Here we are.
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  • You're actually this first ever in the history of israel,
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  • The ambassador to the to the christian world.
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  • Why now? and why you.
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  • Israel respects and has good relations with all community
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  • And religious communities in it and outside of it.
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  • But we do have a special relationship
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  • Between us and the christian world.
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  • We share the same values, the same
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  • Commitment to our civilization and to the core beliefs
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  • That we hold.
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  • And because of that,
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  • And because of the deep friendship that existed
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  • Always between christians and the state of israel,
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  • I think it was the right decision right now by minister
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  • Sa█ar to give a special emphasis and to give a special strategy
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  • To building, and in many ways, reinventing our relations
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  • With the christian world.
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  • The first thing i think that
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  • I should do in this position is just to say thank you.
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  • Christians around the world,
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  • In the us in particular, but around the world.
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  • I've been to nigeria three years.
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  • I've seen the support of christians there to israel,
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  • Have always supported israel.
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  • They stood with us when we were weak.
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  • They stood with us
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  • When we needed help. they stood with us
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  • When everyone else did not stand with us.
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  • And we deeply cherish and are grateful for this support.
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  • And with this support, we were able to build a country
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  • That is strong,
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  • A country that can and is willing to defend itself.
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  • A country that is resilient, a country that loves life,
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  • You know.
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  • Israel is bringing more children to the world
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  • Than any other country in the oecd.
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  • Above replacement rate.
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  • Our economy is thriving throughout the war.
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  • In the past three years,
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  • Our economy has hit new heights that were never seen before.
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  • We are the strongest ever versus the dollar, our currency,
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  • The shekel.
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  • So we're a strong and prosperous nation.
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  • So i think the decision to to appoint me
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  • At this point is because it's time
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  • That we upgrade our relations with the christian world
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  • To a new level.
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  • What does that mean?
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  • First of all, we want israel because it is the
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  • Outpost of the western world in this region,
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  • Defending western, defending our judeo-christian values
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  • To be the place where christians can feel
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  • Safe to come and visit the holy land.
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  • Israel is the guardian
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  • Of the holy places, israel's the guardian of jerusalem
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  • And of nazareth, and of all the holy sites.
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  • So we want every christian to come and connect to the bible,
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  • To the scripture, by actually visiting
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  • The real sites where jesus walked,
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  • Where he preached, where he talked, where he made miracles.
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  • So we want them all to come here. amen to that.
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  • And i just wanted to say on that note that the ambassador and i
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  • And my wife and several of our team
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  • From all israel news just had lunch together.
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  • And i said, listen, we you know,
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  • As we prepare for this epicenter summit, that all israel news,
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  • Tbn and the joshua fund will be hosting on april 7th, 2027.
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  • We would love, mr.
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  • Ambassador, for you to address the audience and
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  • And the evangelicals and other christians that come.
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  • And i want to encourage you to
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  • Go to joshuafund.com and you can learn all about the summit,
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  • The epicenter summit, and all about the joshua fund tour.
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  • We'll be bringing, lord willing,
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  • Hundreds of christians to this summit
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  • And to tour the land and to meet the ambassador.
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  • And we're encouraging if you want to sign up for that,
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  • We'd love all the details are there at joshuafund.com
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  • But also if you're a pastor
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  • Or ministry leader
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  • Or somebody who wants to bring a tour,
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  • We would love for you to do that.
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  • And there's information again
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  • At joshuafund.com about the epicenter summit.
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  • There's information on how you can organize your own tours,
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  • Either through the tour agency that we're using or
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  • A tour agency that you prefer, whatever.
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  • That's fine.
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  • The point is,
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  • You can start to plan, organize, and bring people,
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  • But you need to make sure
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  • You register
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  • And get tickets for your group if you want to come.
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  • And i want to encourage you to do that.
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  • We took a pause on talking about all this
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  • During the intensity of this operation epic fury,
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  • Operation roaring
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  • Lion. but but i'm
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  • Encouraged by your message because it's beautiful.
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  • And i think that people are just beginning to think, all right
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  • Now, we're probably past the worst of the war.
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  • Certainly by next april, things will be quiet
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  • And secure, and it'll be time for christians to come back.
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  • Absolutely.
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  • And i look forward to meeting everyone coming to
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  • To the epicenter summit.
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  • And i think it's going to be
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  • A great opportunity to launch that new chapter
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  • That that we really hope to, to see come to fruition.
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  • Coming up next.
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  • On the rosenberg report, who is george deek?
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  • Why was he chosen to be israel's
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  • First ever ambassador to the christian world?
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  • What are his qualifications?
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  • What's his mandate,
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  • And what's his message to evangelicals
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  • And to all christians at this critical moment?
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  • Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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  • Right after the break.
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  • Right after the break.
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  • Welcome back to the rosenberg report.
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  • As we do the first interview, that ambassador george deek,
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  • The. first
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  • Ever special envoy to the christian world from israel.
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  • This is the first tv interview he's done.
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  • I'm so glad that he is here on the rosenberg report again.
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  • Great to see george, and i'm glad we've got
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  • To talk about several issues.
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  • These are now the attack lines we're going to talk about.
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  • Is israel an apartheid state in a moment.
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  • That's that's out there.
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  • And a lot of people are talking
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  • About the idea that arabs aren't allowed to live here, that
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  • There's no air participation in the country and so forth.
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  • But first, there have been at least two incidents
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  • That have become particularly noteworthy, in which two
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  • Well, let's say several
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  • Israeli soldiers operating in southern lebanon
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  • Really did some things that were deeply offensive.
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  • One, there was a photo taken
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  • Of a young soldier, israeli soldier, chopping off
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  • The head of a statue of jesus that was sort of inverted.
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  • And then the second of of an israeli soldier
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  • Putting a cigarette in the mouth of a statue of mother mary.
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  • Both went viral.
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  • Deeply offensive.
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  • How do you respond?
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  • I mean, you suddenly got thrown into the deep end where,
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  • Yeah, israeli government had kind of got put on defense
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  • A bit over this.
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  • The response is very clear. we don't believe in cover up.
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  • We don't believe in covering this kind of incidents.
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  • This is completely unacceptable.
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  • This is abhorrent behavior by these soldiers.
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  • The incidents were immediately condemned by every level
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  • Of government, from the prime minister
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  • To the foreign minister and others immediately
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  • At that point.
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  • So there's no room for any disrespect
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  • Towards religious symbols
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  • Of any religion, not just christianity.
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  • What action was taken against these soldiers?
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  • So the soldier punitive measures were taken.
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  • The soldiers that desecrated the cross has been sentenced for
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  • Over a month in prison, and he's also taken out of duty
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  • In the military.
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  • He will no longer be able to serve in the military.
  • 00:10:59.036 --> 00:11:00.838
  • In military forms, this is very severe punishment.
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  • The other soldier,
  • 00:11:03.907 --> 00:11:05.109
  • The incident just happened a few days ago,
  • 00:11:05.109 --> 00:11:07.044
  • Or it was actually published a few days ago.
  • 00:11:07.044 --> 00:11:10.280
  • So it's now being under
  • 00:11:10.280 --> 00:11:12.483
  • Judicial review in the military ranks,
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  • And he will also be severely punished.
  • 00:11:15.252 --> 00:11:17.588
  • And i want to say a lot of people use those incidences
  • 00:11:17.588 --> 00:11:21.558
  • To to attack israel as if israel does not protect
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  • Christian sites or christian people living here.
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  • I'll just say it very quickly.
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  • First of all, i'm thankful for all the people
  • 00:11:31.869 --> 00:11:33.771
  • Who show a lot of empathy and a lot of sympathy
  • 00:11:33.771 --> 00:11:36.106
  • To christian presence here,
  • 00:11:36.106 --> 00:11:37.441
  • And if that criticism makes us become a better society,
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  • And if that criticism brings us to a place where we take
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  • More responsibility
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  • For these incidents to make sure that they never happen again,
  • 00:11:45.215 --> 00:11:47.751
  • That's great.
  • 00:11:47.751 --> 00:11:48.852
  • But i have to say, as a christian.
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  • Yeah, that's an important point.
  • 00:11:50.888 --> 00:11:52.790
  • You're the first christian, i think, ever appointed
  • 00:11:52.790 --> 00:11:55.626
  • As an ambassador.
  • 00:11:55.626 --> 00:11:57.161
  • Previously.
  • 00:11:57.161 --> 00:11:58.295
  • Now you're the first ever envoy to the christian world.
  • 00:11:58.295 --> 00:12:00.764
  • But you are a christian.
  • 00:12:00.764 --> 00:12:01.832
  • You were raised in a christian home here in israel.
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  • You're you're a native israeli.
  • 00:12:04.635 --> 00:12:06.069
  • Your family goes back like 400 years.
  • 00:12:06.069 --> 00:12:07.571
  • We'll get more to your background in a moment.
  • 00:12:07.571 --> 00:12:09.406
  • But but this is you.
  • 00:12:09.406 --> 00:12:11.141
  • It's not just something you're talking about.
  • 00:12:11.141 --> 00:12:13.677
  • I grew up here as a christian.
  • 00:12:13.677 --> 00:12:15.078
  • And, you know,
  • 00:12:15.078 --> 00:12:15.846
  • The christians in the middle east
  • 00:12:15.846 --> 00:12:17.114
  • Are the ancient christians
  • 00:12:17.114 --> 00:12:18.348
  • That lived here since the times of jesus.
  • 00:12:18.348 --> 00:12:20.450
  • And right now, christians in the middle east are experiencing
  • 00:12:20.450 --> 00:12:24.288
  • Ethnic cleansing.
  • 00:12:24.288 --> 00:12:25.522
  • The christians are being driven out from anywhere from mosul
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  • To malwa, from baghdad to from kabul
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  • To istanbul and from baghdad, all the way to.
  • 00:12:34.398 --> 00:12:37.601
  • Arab muslim world.
  • 00:12:38.035 --> 00:12:39.169
  • And in iran, christians are in a tremendous persecution
  • 00:12:39.169 --> 00:12:42.639
  • And are being cleansed out.
  • 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:43.974
  • Isis was actually engaged in genocide against christians
  • 00:12:43.974 --> 00:12:47.344
  • In iraq and syria.
  • 00:12:47.344 --> 00:12:49.112
  • But here in israel, it's a totally different story.
  • 00:12:49.112 --> 00:12:51.849
  • Even though tucker carlson and others try to say
  • 00:12:51.849 --> 00:12:54.084
  • That christians are worse
  • 00:12:54.084 --> 00:12:55.485
  • Off here than in the arab and muslim world.
  • 00:12:55.485 --> 00:12:57.888
  • So in all those places, christians are being persecuted
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  • Throughout the middle east.
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  • Aleppo, which used to have 250,000
  • 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.162
  • Christians, is down to less than 50,000
  • 00:13:05.162 --> 00:13:07.464
  • Today in mosul in iraq, barely any christians are left today.
  • 00:13:07.464 --> 00:13:11.301
  • And we have seen the, the, the,
  • 00:13:11.301 --> 00:13:14.771
  • The shrinking of the christian presence
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  • Throughout the entire middle east.
  • 00:13:16.807 --> 00:13:18.542
  • That's happened in bethlehem as well,
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  • When when under palestinian
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  • Authority control, the number of christians
  • 00:13:21.812 --> 00:13:24.248
  • Plummeted as people, christians just left.
  • 00:13:24.248 --> 00:13:26.550
  • Exactly. or the goal for america.
  • 00:13:26.550 --> 00:13:28.385
  • So as a christian, i pray that those christians
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  • And the real persecuting, not the desecration of a cross,
  • 00:13:31.688 --> 00:13:34.925
  • But the taking of lives and dignity of people
  • 00:13:34.925 --> 00:13:38.061
  • Would get the attention
  • 00:13:38.061 --> 00:13:39.429
  • That it deserves in comparison to the attention
  • 00:13:39.429 --> 00:13:41.665
  • We're getting to incidents here in israel.
  • 00:13:41.665 --> 00:13:43.533
  • So and it's i'm not saying that because
  • 00:13:43.533 --> 00:13:47.771
  • I want to avert the attention to a different place.
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  • I'm saying this
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  • Because there are real
  • 00:13:51.241 --> 00:13:52.276
  • Persecution, real people suffering on the ground
  • 00:13:52.276 --> 00:13:54.711
  • Throughout the entire middle east.
  • 00:13:54.711 --> 00:13:55.879
  • And those christians deserve the international attention.
  • 00:13:55.879 --> 00:13:59.716
  • They deserve people caring about them
  • 00:13:59.716 --> 00:14:01.551
  • And raising their voice to defend those christians.
  • 00:14:01.551 --> 00:14:04.288
  • And i call all the christian friends
  • 00:14:04.288 --> 00:14:06.223
  • That we have abroad
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  • Raise your voice for the christians of the middle east,
  • 00:14:07.758 --> 00:14:10.227
  • They are disappearing and it's happening
  • 00:14:10.227 --> 00:14:12.029
  • Right under our noses from the day, from the places
  • 00:14:12.029 --> 00:14:15.365
  • That jesus walked. barely any christians are left.
  • 00:14:15.365 --> 00:14:17.801
  • And in fact, there's only one exception to that rule.
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  • There's only one place in the entire middle east
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  • Where the christian presence is growing, and that's israel.
  • 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:26.543
  • In israel we had in 1950, 34,000 christians.
  • 00:14:26.543 --> 00:14:31.248
  • Today we have 188,000 christians plus in our country.
  • 00:14:31.248 --> 00:14:35.319
  • That's 400% increase in 80 years.
  • 00:14:35.319 --> 00:14:38.555
  • Christians in this country are not just surviving,
  • 00:14:38.555 --> 00:14:42.292
  • They are thriving.
  • 00:14:42.292 --> 00:14:43.527
  • We are part of the decision making.
  • 00:14:43.527 --> 00:14:45.729
  • There are christians anywhere
  • 00:14:45.729 --> 00:14:47.397
  • From the academia to the military to diplomacy
  • 00:14:47.397 --> 00:14:50.400
  • To business, to government in every field or innovators.
  • 00:14:50.400 --> 00:14:53.904
  • They are part of our high tech nation.
  • 00:14:53.904 --> 00:14:56.907
  • We are part of this society.
  • 00:14:56.907 --> 00:14:58.508
  • We make this society what it is.
  • 00:14:58.508 --> 00:15:00.310
  • And in fact, christians in israel,
  • 00:15:00.310 --> 00:15:01.745
  • People don't know this fact.
  • 00:15:01.745 --> 00:15:02.946
  • But christians in israel
  • 00:15:02.946 --> 00:15:04.114
  • Are the most educated community in the country,
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  • More than the jews.
  • 00:15:07.117 --> 00:15:08.185
  • Really?
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  • Yeah, we are the most employed.
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  • We have the, the,
  • 00:15:11.221 --> 00:15:12.823
  • The lowest number of unemployment in the country.
  • 00:15:12.823 --> 00:15:15.726
  • And we have some of the best schools with the best,
  • 00:15:15.726 --> 00:15:18.128
  • The christian schools, the best grades for the baccalaureate,
  • 00:15:18.128 --> 00:15:22.199
  • Like the graduation from high school.
  • 00:15:22.199 --> 00:15:24.167
  • So christians are thriving in this country.
  • 00:15:24.167 --> 00:15:26.570
  • We have opportunities like everyone else.
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  • We go to the technion, we go to the tel
  • 00:15:28.505 --> 00:15:31.174
  • Aviv university,
  • 00:15:31.174 --> 00:15:32.376
  • The mit of israel, and succeed in innovation and in business.
  • 00:15:32.376 --> 00:15:35.846
  • So this is our reality.
  • 00:15:35.846 --> 00:15:37.948
  • We must do everything
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  • To make sure that those voices who are criticizing israel
  • 00:15:39.349 --> 00:15:42.552
  • Do not destroy the only firewall standing
  • 00:15:42.552 --> 00:15:46.089
  • Between christian presence in the region and the
  • 00:15:46.089 --> 00:15:50.293
  • The the terrible fate that the rest of the christians
  • 00:15:50.293 --> 00:15:53.797
  • In the region have faced, and that is israel.
  • 00:15:53.797 --> 00:15:56.033
  • Amen.
  • 00:15:56.033 --> 00:15:57.467
  • Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
  • 00:15:57.467 --> 00:15:59.970
  • Don't miss the rest
  • 00:15:59.970 --> 00:16:01.171
  • Of my exclusive conversation with ambassador george deek.
  • 00:16:01.171 --> 00:16:04.908
  • Where did he grow up?
  • 00:16:04.908 --> 00:16:06.309
  • How deep are his family's roots in the land of israel?
  • 00:16:06.309 --> 00:16:09.746
  • And why is it so encouraging that he's been appointed
  • 00:16:09.746 --> 00:16:13.150
  • To this critical role at this critical time?
  • 00:16:13.150 --> 00:16:16.153
  • Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn.
  • 00:16:16.153 --> 00:16:20.090
  • Right after the break.
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  • Right after the break.
  • 00:16:22.989 --> 00:16:26.533
  • Welcome back to the
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  • Rosenberg report as we continue my exclusive interview,
  • 00:16:28.134 --> 00:16:30.236
  • His first interview
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  • On any television network since being appointed, israel's first
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  • Ever a special envoy to the christian world.
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  • And george, again, thank you for being here.
  • 00:16:37.510 --> 00:16:39.913
  • Your family is from jaffa.
  • 00:16:39.913 --> 00:16:43.783
  • In the in english translation of the bible it would say joppa.
  • 00:16:43.783 --> 00:16:47.520
  • This is where jonah set out to avoid god's call
  • 00:16:47.520 --> 00:16:52.292
  • To to go to nineveh. right?
  • 00:16:52.292 --> 00:16:53.927
  • He headed towards southern spain.
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  • Tarshish.
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  • Jaffa, jaffa, we all say in hebrew.
  • 00:16:57.730 --> 00:17:00.867
  • But this is where peter was taking a nap
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  • And saw the vision from jesus and was sent to go reach
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  • The gentiles with the gospel.
  • 00:17:07.073 --> 00:17:09.109
  • This is this is your.
  • 00:17:09.109 --> 00:17:10.710
  • This is your home turf.
  • 00:17:10.710 --> 00:17:11.945
  • This is what you were born and raised is where you live now.
  • 00:17:11.945 --> 00:17:14.214
  • Yeah.
  • 00:17:14.214 --> 00:17:15.448
  • And how far back can your family trace its roots just to jaffa?
  • 00:17:15.448 --> 00:17:19.519
  • Not just to the land of israel.
  • 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.554
  • We have roots in jaffa that go back almost 400 years,
  • 00:17:21.554 --> 00:17:25.325
  • Documented with baptisms
  • 00:17:25.325 --> 00:17:26.759
  • And marriages certificates, so we can go all the way back to.
  • 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.597
  • In arabic it's called saman, which is simon dick
  • 00:17:30.597 --> 00:17:33.399
  • In the early days.
  • 00:17:33.399 --> 00:17:34.534
  • So this is it's basically my town.
  • 00:17:34.534 --> 00:17:38.071
  • I've been from there for for centuries.
  • 00:17:38.071 --> 00:17:41.074
  • So i come from an arab christian family that has lived there.
  • 00:17:41.074 --> 00:17:45.712
  • My family have gone through
  • 00:17:46.312 --> 00:17:48.014
  • A lot of difficulty throughout history.
  • 00:17:48.014 --> 00:17:50.083
  • You know, as christians in this land
  • 00:17:50.083 --> 00:17:51.751
  • Under ottoman rule and islamic rule before that.
  • 00:17:51.751 --> 00:17:55.922
  • Life was not always easy. it was not always comfortable.
  • 00:17:55.922 --> 00:17:58.558
  • There's a lot of discrimination in the persecution.
  • 00:17:58.558 --> 00:18:01.995
  • And also in 1948, when israel was established,
  • 00:18:01.995 --> 00:18:05.465
  • My family fled
  • 00:18:05.465 --> 00:18:07.133
  • All the way to lebanon
  • 00:18:07.133 --> 00:18:08.234
  • With the rest
  • 00:18:08.234 --> 00:18:09.469
  • Of the palestinian refugees, and my grandparents came back
  • 00:18:09.469 --> 00:18:11.971
  • With a baby that was born in lebanon.
  • 00:18:11.971 --> 00:18:13.606
  • Come back and settle here.
  • 00:18:13.606 --> 00:18:15.241
  • Well, it's a long story, but basically, my grandfather,
  • 00:18:15.241 --> 00:18:18.478
  • Before the war, he used to work
  • 00:18:18.478 --> 00:18:20.013
  • For a electricity company called rutenberg.
  • 00:18:20.013 --> 00:18:22.482
  • It was owned by jews and he spoke yiddish.
  • 00:18:22.482 --> 00:18:24.851
  • So when the war was over and everyone understood
  • 00:18:24.851 --> 00:18:28.788
  • That the jews are here to stay.
  • 00:18:28.788 --> 00:18:30.723
  • Then all the rest of his family
  • 00:18:30.723 --> 00:18:33.159
  • Tried to seek their future elsewhere.
  • 00:18:33.159 --> 00:18:35.028
  • Some stayed in lebanon, some are now in jordan,
  • 00:18:35.028 --> 00:18:37.163
  • In syria, in the us and canada, australia and elsewhere.
  • 00:18:37.163 --> 00:18:40.466
  • But my grandfather wanted to come back
  • 00:18:40.466 --> 00:18:42.669
  • Because he knew that the jews were not his enemies.
  • 00:18:42.669 --> 00:18:44.804
  • They could be his friends.
  • 00:18:44.804 --> 00:18:45.972
  • So he took the long walk with a wife and a baby alone.
  • 00:18:45.972 --> 00:18:49.442
  • All his family...you said walk? walk.
  • 00:18:49.442 --> 00:18:52.111
  • From lebanon.
  • 00:18:52.111 --> 00:18:52.912
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:18:52.912 --> 00:18:54.080
  • Back here, everyone thought he was completely insane.
  • 00:18:54.080 --> 00:18:56.049
  • And he came all by himself just with a wife and a baby.
  • 00:18:56.049 --> 00:18:59.085
  • They were in their early 20s and they walked all the way back.
  • 00:18:59.085 --> 00:19:03.323
  • My grandfather was even arrested by the israeli police
  • 00:19:03.323 --> 00:19:06.492
  • When he entered the land,
  • 00:19:06.492 --> 00:19:07.360
  • Because he was illegally
  • 00:19:07.360 --> 00:19:08.428
  • Infiltrating the country, and my grandmother went
  • 00:19:08.428 --> 00:19:11.564
  • Knocking on the israel electricity national israeli
  • 00:19:11.564 --> 00:19:14.934
  • Electricity company,
  • 00:19:14.934 --> 00:19:16.169
  • Which is the transformation of the company where he worked.
  • 00:19:16.169 --> 00:19:19.606
  • So she knocked on the door.
  • 00:19:19.606 --> 00:19:21.441
  • Who knows?
  • 00:19:21.441 --> 00:19:22.208
  • George deek, i'm named after him.
  • 00:19:22.208 --> 00:19:24.444
  • So finally
  • 00:19:24.444 --> 00:19:25.878
  • She found his friends
  • 00:19:25.878 --> 00:19:27.146
  • From there,
  • 00:19:27.146 --> 00:19:28.014
  • And they not only took him out of jail,
  • 00:19:28.014 --> 00:19:29.349
  • But they also gave him his old job back,
  • 00:19:29.349 --> 00:19:31.084
  • Making him the first arab to ever work
  • 00:19:31.084 --> 00:19:33.119
  • For the israeli electricity company. wow.
  • 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:35.188
  • And the reason i'm sitting here
  • 00:19:35.188 --> 00:19:36.356
  • With you as an israeli ambassador
  • 00:19:36.356 --> 00:19:38.324
  • And not a palestinian refugee from lebanon,
  • 00:19:38.324 --> 00:19:40.126
  • Is because my grandfather had the courage
  • 00:19:40.126 --> 00:19:41.928
  • To take a decision that was unthinkable
  • 00:19:41.928 --> 00:19:44.163
  • To others
  • 00:19:44.163 --> 00:19:44.664
  • To come live
  • 00:19:44.664 --> 00:19:45.465
  • Among those who were supposed
  • 00:19:45.465 --> 00:19:46.532
  • To be his enemies and to make them his friends.
  • 00:19:46.532 --> 00:19:48.635
  • Wow, it's such a good.
  • 00:19:48.635 --> 00:19:51.337
  • It's so
  • 00:19:51.571 --> 00:19:52.505
  • Encouraging to me that you have this role,
  • 00:19:52.505 --> 00:19:55.475
  • Especially because you were already
  • 00:19:55.475 --> 00:19:56.943
  • An ambassador for 18 years
  • 00:19:56.943 --> 00:19:58.244
  • Or a diplomat, and you become an ambassador
  • 00:19:58.244 --> 00:20:01.014
  • To a shia muslim country representing israel.
  • 00:20:01.014 --> 00:20:03.283
  • I think all that history is good.
  • 00:20:03.283 --> 00:20:06.152
  • I would think
  • 00:20:06.152 --> 00:20:07.387
  • You probably didn't want during that time to be specifically
  • 00:20:07.387 --> 00:20:10.089
  • An arab-israeli
  • 00:20:10.089 --> 00:20:10.923
  • Or specifically a christian israeli,
  • 00:20:10.923 --> 00:20:12.125
  • Just as he was doing the job of representing the country.
  • 00:20:12.125 --> 00:20:15.161
  • But i think this is an amazing moment
  • 00:20:15.161 --> 00:20:17.830
  • For such a time as this, to quote the book of esther,
  • 00:20:17.830 --> 00:20:20.967
  • And i really appreciate you
  • 00:20:20.967 --> 00:20:22.168
  • Spending time with us here on the rosenberg report,
  • 00:20:22.168 --> 00:20:25.171
  • And we're looking forward to following you, reporting
  • 00:20:25.171 --> 00:20:27.840
  • On you, and and following up with other interviews.
  • 00:20:27.840 --> 00:20:29.909
  • I'd love to interview you in jaffa, your hometown.
  • 00:20:29.909 --> 00:20:32.679
  • You're most here in here in jerusalem.
  • 00:20:32.679 --> 00:20:34.647
  • And we'll walk the cobblestone streets and we we wish you well.
  • 00:20:34.647 --> 00:20:38.685
  • We were praying for you in this new role.
  • 00:20:38.685 --> 00:20:41.054
  • It's a very important role, and i'm encouraged
  • 00:20:41.054 --> 00:20:43.389
  • By the seriousness with which is being taken,
  • 00:20:43.389 --> 00:20:46.359
  • Not just by the foreign minister, whom
  • 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:47.794
  • I know and appreciate,
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  • But also by the prime minister who i know and appreciate.
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  • This is the this is the right time. amen.
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  • Thank you for the opportunity. my pleasure.
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  • Thank you so much for watching.
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  • We are out of time, but we're so grateful that you spent
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  • Time with us this evening to meet this first
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  • Ever israeli, a special envoy to the christian world.
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  • We've been asking for it, calling for it, praying for it.
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  • Now it's happening.
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  • So please pray from amb george deek.
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  • Well, that's all the time we have.
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  • Have a great week.
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  • As you walk with the lord jesus christ
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  • And the power of the holy spirit,
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  • Spending time in his word, spending time in worship and
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  • And caring for the poor and needy,
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  • Those who are orphans and widows
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  • And those who are disadvantaged.
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  • Be a blessing to others.
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  • Be a witness for the lord jesus.
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  • Make disciples of all nations,
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  • And keep praying for the peace of jerusalem
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  • And all in this region, and victory over our enemies.
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  • That's our show.
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  • Have a great week and lord willing,
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  • I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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