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July 23, 2025 | 29:35

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson joins Joel Rosenberg to discuss U.S.-Israel relations, communist China and more.

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Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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Who exactly is house speaker mike johnson?
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How did he become an evangelical follower of jesus christ?
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Why does he love israel and plan to go there soon?
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Why does he believe
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Tucker carlson is wrong?
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And president trump is right
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When it comes to israel and iran?
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How worried is he that communist
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China is preparing to invade taiwan
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And threaten american supremacy in the pacific?
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And how worried is he that republicans
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Will lose control of the house in 2026?
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Joel█s exclusive conversation with house speaker mike johnson
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From his office in the capitol tonight on the rosenberg
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Report.
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Good evening, and welcome to the rosenberg report.
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We are in washington this week.
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We are at the united states capitol.
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We are on the balcony, the porch of house speaker
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Mike johnson, and we've got an exclusive
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Sit down interview with him.
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We're going to talk about his perception of the iran attack
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By president trump to take out iran's nuclear facilities.
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How much damage did it do?
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And what about the criticism that's growing on the right
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From tucker carlson, steve bannon and others
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That president trump should cut loose israel,
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As he should, that trump should drop israel as an ally,
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That trump should never
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Have gotten militarily engaged against the iran nuclear threat.
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We're going to talk a lot
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About the us-israel relationship tonight.
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I'm going to ask, speaker johnson, who had been scheduled
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Earlier, this year to come to israel,
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And give a major address to the knesset and meet with,
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Prime minister netanyahu and others.
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But that was cut short by the 12 day iran war.
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Is that trip rescheduled?
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We're going to talk to him about that tonight,
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But we're also going to talk about the pacific.
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We're going to talk about the communist china threat.
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I'm going to give him a copy of my new novel,
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The beijing betrayal,
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And we're going to talk about the threat
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That communist china poses to taiwan, to other u.s.
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Allies in the region, and the united states
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Dominance in the pacific.
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Lots of talk about including is he bullish or is
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He worried about keeping the house
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Under republican control as we go into 2026?
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Again, good evening and welcome to the rosenberg report.
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So happy to have you with us.
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I don't want to get into any more tonight.
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I want to get right to this exclusive interview
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With house speaker mike johnson.
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Mr. speaker, is an honor to meet you and to sit
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With you here in the capitol in your office.
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You just were at the epicenter of the storm of president
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Trump, made his
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What i think is an incredibly courageous decision to finish
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A war that iran started almost half a century ago, was getting
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He kept a promise to keep iran from getting the bomb.
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But there was tremendous opposition.
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I mean, two of his, the president's close friends,
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Tucker carlson, steve bannon, just to name two,
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Were deeply opposed.
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Drop israel, don't do it.
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You're betraying maga.
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How did you see the president's decision?
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Because i know you strongly supported it.
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But why why are why was the president right.
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And tucker and steve on this wrong?
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Well, i would say the president has been insistent
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And consistent about the iran problem.
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I mean, for many, many years.
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You go back and play the tape.
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And he's always said
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That they cannot be armed with a nuclear weapon.
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You cannot give the chief sponsor of terrorism
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Around the globe a nuclear arsenal.
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That seems like a fairly straightforward proposition.
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Right. and yet.
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And i think most reasonable people understand that
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That's an important objective.
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And the president has never wavered on it.
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So when they came so close as they did to actually
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Having that capability, he was really given no choice.
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And of course,
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We allowed israel to go in first and do what they did.
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And then,
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And then there came this moment of decision
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Where the nation, who has sponsored
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All the terrorism
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And all the atrocities around the globe,
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And the
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Attacks on americans everywhere who chant death to america,
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He gave the leaders of iran a chance to make a deal,
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And they flatly refused it.
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So he he had no choice in the matter that the what the
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The bombing that took place
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Set back their nuclear program substantially
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And that is good for peace around the globe
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And for all freedom
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Loving people everywhere, and certainly americans,
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Because if they had a nuclear capability,
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They would probably fire on israel instantaneously.
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Their stated goal is to wipe israel off the map,
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But they would certainly turn their attention to us as well.
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So, i mean.
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Israel's only the little satan in there,
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And we're the ideology.
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We're the great savior here. and united states.
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And yet
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These are very influential voices for the president.
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And you're really making the direct accusation again.
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You're betraying your promises
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To maga that we we don't get into forever wars.
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I mean, this took 37 hours for the united states to.
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It's quite the opposite of a
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It doesn't seem it seems like it ended something.
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Right. oh.
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How concerned are you about the growing
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Anti-israel, sentiment among these two leaders?
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And on the right one there.
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There a number of voices who look, these are
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There's isolationist in the party
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And they're anti interventionists.
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And this is neither of those things.
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It shouldn't
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It shouldn't be a concern to those folks
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Because we're not going to the nation build.
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There's not the america is not investing anymore.
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We're protecting our own interest.
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Remember the iran's are firing on us
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Troops and our, you know, american assets in the region
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And through their proxies and all that, the houthis
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And the
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Hezbollah and hamas and all the rest,
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We have to maintain peace through strength.
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And that's what the president is for.
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He doesn't have any interest in investing american blood and
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And treasure and rebuilding countries around the world.
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That's not what america first is.
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But at the same time,
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He understands to maintain our status as the strongest country
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In the world, the last great superpower
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Which we are,
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That you cannot allow an avowed enemy
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Of the us to have a nuclear weapon
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That they could potentially fire on a major u.s. city.
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And i mean, this is just very simple.
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So i understand the concern about people.
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And i, i sympathize with,
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The arguments of people who say we should not be
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Getting into forever wars. i don't want that either.
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I don't think that's a doctrine that our party should support.
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But this was a distinct and i think,
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Unusual situation and needed extraordinary measures.
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The president made the right choice, did the right thing.
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And by god's grace, not a single american was harmed.
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We ended it, as you said,
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37 hours and the desired outcome was achieved.
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That's the kind of military strike
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That only america is capable of.
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And if we are not willing to wield it every now and then
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And then,
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The capability doesn't really exist,
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And people around the world can see
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That our adversaries have taken notice.
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Our allies have as well.
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They respect america
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Again, america's back because we're strong again.
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That's peace, their strength.
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And our adversaries russia, china,
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Iran, north korea, all of them, have taken notice.
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That's a very important thing for us to reestablish,
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Especially after the last four years of total weakness,
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An appeasement that the democrats
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And the biden-harris administration brought about.
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This, this event, the president's decisive attack.
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To destroy those three iranian nuclear facilities.
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This may end up proving to be the antidote
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To president biden pulling the plug on u.s.
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Involvement in afghanistan and seeing the entire 20 year
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Investment, collapse in within hours.
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This is this is the exact opposite, in my view.
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Sure.
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We reestablished american strength and dominance again.
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And after the afghanistan,
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The abject failure that that was the debacle,
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The total lack of leadership, we were on our heels
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In terms of our standing around the world.
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Our allies were even
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Our allies were doubting us in so many ways.
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And then president trump comes in
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And reasserts american strength.
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And if we had not
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Had that strength right now, we would be losing our footing
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In economic issues.
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I mean, even domestically, foreign and domestic affairs.
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So we had to have a strong leader.
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President trump is that figure, and he is willing
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To take the arrows for doing the right thing.
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And i think history will record that this was clearly the right
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And necessary thing to have been done.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report, did you know
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That house speaker mike johnson was born to teenage parents?
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How has that shaped his life and faith?
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Why does he believe that tucker carlson
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Is wrong? and president trump is right
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When it comes to israel and iran?
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How worried is he that communist china is preparing to invade
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Taiwan and threaten american supremacy in the pacific?
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And how worried is he that republicans
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Will lose control of the house in 2026?
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Don't miss jones exclusive conversation
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When the rosenberg report continues on tbn right
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After the break.
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After the break.
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I struggle to understand what tucker wants from an ally.
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I mean, you have been a pretty vocal,
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Not just a defender of the us-israel alliance, but
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Essentially making the case that israel is a model ally.
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I know israel got 97% of the attack
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Against iran done, and didn't ask for a u.s.
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Boots on the ground.
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I mean,
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If the united states has a plane
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And a bomb that can finish a fight faster,
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It's a so i wonder tucker and the others, steve bannon,
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The other.
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But in this this i don't know
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If this is a wing yet, but it's but the influence is high.
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What do they expect of any ally.
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Isn't this the type of ally that we want?
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I certainly think so. it's a matter of faith for me.
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I mean, you know, i don't
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I don't have any quarrel with tucker or steve.
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I mean, i don't i'm
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Not sure what their analysis is, but mine is very clear
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And it's been consistent my whole life.
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I mean,
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I think it is a model, alliance that we have with israel.
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It's a special alliance.
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It's unlike any other in the nation
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Because we have a shared judeo-christian heritage.
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I mean, it was part of the founding
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Of our very nation 249 years ago.
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And i don't think we can forget that.
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I mean, this goes back to the,
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You know, the opening book in genesis.
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You know, i'm blessed of the nation
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And blessed israel and cursed nation and curses israel.
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And there's all sorts of theological interpretations
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Of how that applies to us today.
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But i take it literally and understand that this is,
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As scripture is very clear, this is god's chosen people.
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And, christians around
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The world are supposed to have high regard for that.
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So it's a matter of faith to me.
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But if you just set the faith issues aside
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And you just look at it practically,
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If you're just looking for america first as an agenda
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And the interest of america, it is clearly within our interest
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To have a close alliance with israel
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As the only stable democracy in the region,
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Which is a tinderbox for all the reasons we know
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And to have a strong presence there.
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And the only reason israel is still surviving right now.
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I mean, listen to the prime minister himself.
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Netanyahu was just openly yes, he's a close friend that,
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They understand that
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They would have been
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They would have been taken out as a country
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A long time ago
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If the perception was not that the u.s.
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Was standing with them.
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And effectively right behind them is sort of a big brother.
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And it's important, thing for us to maintain
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That relationship and that perception.
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And i think president trump has done that in spades.
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He has. but i also want to thank you.
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Israel was attacked and i live in jerusalem.
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We were there on october 7th.
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And through all the horrors that ensued,
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The us didn't have a speaker of the house.
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On october 7th.
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We couldn't move legislation, couldn't move money to,
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Weapons to move, to stand stand with israel.
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You came in, i think it was october 25th, 23rd, 23rd.
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Sorry. you, thank you.
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You would know.
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No. that's right. october 25th. the 23rd.
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Even i don█t know.
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We'll clean it up, but anyway, we'll figure it out.
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Seems like ten years ago, i bet. yeah.
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My recollection is the first thing you did
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Was pass a resolution reaffirming the u.s.
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Remains and within.
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I don't remember exactly how long, but soon
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You started moving legislation to get that got passed, took
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A while on the senate to get money and weapons flowing.
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Thank you.
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I just want to say thank you for that.
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And then you wanted to come over to israel?
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I was going to see you,
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As you were going to give a big speech to the knesset.
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I think on the third or fourth time
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That a speaker of the house had.
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Been there, that it.
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Would have been third time that got scuttled by the whole iran.
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Shuffle the 12 day war, as it were.
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It would have fallen on like day four of the war, i think.
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Yes, yes. yeah. so,
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You've got a pretty busy
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Schedule and you haven't taken a lot of
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Foreign trips as speaker because you had a lot to do.
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But first of all, thank you for wanting to.
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And is that rescheduled?
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Yes, we've been working on that aggressively.
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I can't wait to get, to return and it hopefully will happen
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Very soon.
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A lot of logistics involved in that.
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But we have lots to do over there.
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And they've invited me.
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It's my great honor
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To be invited to speak to the knesset,
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And i look forward to that opportunity.
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And i think it's important
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These relationships are very important.
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Israel's leaders come over here routinely, and,
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It's important for us to return the favor.
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And i love our ambassador, mike huckabee.
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He's just doing a great job.
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And he and i have been
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Very close communication about all this
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And trying to work out logistics.
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So i hope it happens soon.
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I don't have a lot of breaks in the schedule here. yeah.
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But as soon as we get one, my intention is to get over
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There. well, we will cover. we look forward to that.
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Hey, i want to shift to.
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You've been mentioning allies,
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All throughout this and the importance of the, u.s.
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Alliances and the message this has sent,
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President trump decisiveness
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And keeping promises.
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And by the way,
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I didn't expect 60 men, 60 when he gave iran 60 days.
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I didn't understand that.
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And 60 days, 61 when iran didn't do anything.
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And he basically called me and said, do what you got to do.
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We're with you. and that's when the attack started.
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I want to shift to china, communist
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China and the threat to taiwan.
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But first, i want to give you a both.
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This is my latest political thriller.
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I'm a failed political consultant.
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So that's why you and i don't talk about politics.
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In terms of advice.
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Yeah, i became a novelist.
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I'm also a journalist.
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This is about communist china getting ready.
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Not in years or in months, but in hours or days
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To attack, invade, the democratic island of taiwan
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And to unleash a horrific bio toxin
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Inside the united states days before the attack
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To try to paralyze us.
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Doesn't sound like fiction.
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Well, i pray that it remains fiction, but
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How do you see the communist chinese threat to taiwan?
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To u.s.
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Interests, ultimately,
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And that taiwan
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Being the bulwark of, you know, of our interests
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In the pacific, not the only one,
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But if we lose taiwan in my view,
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Why should south korea trust us? why should japan trust us?
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Why should anybody in the region, much less the world?
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So you had a very, important but controversial call
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Last year with the new taiwanese president lai.
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What's your perspective?
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How should evangelical
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Christians and other americans see how you see carnage?
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China, taiwan and the challenges in the pacific?
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Well, when we say america first,
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We have to look after america's interest.
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And it is my view that china is our chief adversary.
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It's not just mine.
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It's shared by all of our leaders at the pentagon.
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And, you know, we have the top
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Principal threats to our national security.
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And china's at the top of everybody's list
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For all the obvious reasons that are almost a peer
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To peer adversary with us, which is frightening
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Because we haven't had one of those since world war two.
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And, they're advancing and they have a long agenda.
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They've been very steady and very aggressive.
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And while we had four years of just languishing as a country
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And declining in
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Every metric, china was on the march, literally.
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And so it's a very dangerous time for us.
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I mean, in the ai race, for example.
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I mean, they're trying to catch us. we're slightly ahead.
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We must stay ahead in that area and in others.
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And the threat of of what we face in
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The indo-pacific is very real.
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And the one big, beautiful bill
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That we just passed, we invested another $12 billion
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Specifically to our military in the indo-pacific region
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For military exercises, preparation and readiness
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And the like, is very important.
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And it's a signal
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That the congress understands the necessity of maintaining
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The peace in that region if they moved on taiwan
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And your and your hopefully fictitious example here,
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It would be a disastrous thing for the country because of,
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You know, chips, for example, you know, the the processes
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That we use and every device that we, that we, oh, rely upon,
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I mean, the vast majority of those are made
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In taiwan, of course, just on that one. simple.
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Just eliminate everything else.
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Look at the interest of the america has and making sure
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That that continues.
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Now we're trying to ensure
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The manufacturing of chips and everything else.
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And president trump is
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Is making great strides in congress as well.
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But there's a lag time there.
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And but but we have to maintain the peace.
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We have to hold china to their barriers.
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This is a very important principle since world war two
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That you can't just go
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Take the neighboring country if you want.
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That's not how this works anymore.
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I am heartened by our nato alliance
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Now committing to give 5% of their gdp instead of just 2%.
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That's huge.
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A zero chance that would have happened if donald j.
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Trump was not in the oval office.
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Okay, because i was at the g7 speakers
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Meeting in verona, italy, last august.
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The only trip i've taken
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Internationally as speaker because i had to go to the g7.
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Right.
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My counterparts there, the speakers of the other
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Great parliaments of our closest allies,
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And there was him behind and people saying, gee,
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I don't know if our country can get there.
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Maybe we can get there in 15 years or so.
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Now, this is a commitment that nato allies made to give 2%
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Of their gdp.
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And trump gets elected and it's like a complete about-face.
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And now they're all saying not just 2%, 5%.
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So all these developments are important
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That will help us maintain
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The peace again through strength.
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And we have to keep a close eye on china.
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The president takes it very seriously.
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Remember, he was one of the first people
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Talking about the threat to china that 2015 and 2016 china.
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I know
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They made fun of
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A great impression, but he really hasn't put that
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In front.
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And he changed my view.
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Sure.
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On communist china, i really thought engagement was
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Was the right way.
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And i hadn't kept up with the fact that,
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Yeah, all the evidence said that engagement had not worked.
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No. and look he china had become more aggressive.
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That's right.
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And he wants to avoid military conflict at all.
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Sure.
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And he is trying heroically to,
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To engage and negotiate with xi and to have a trade agreement
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With china that's essential for both countries and to,
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Sort of hold all that, at bay.
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But, you got to have willing partners.
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You can't have a negotiation unless you have a reasonable,
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Rational leader on the other side.
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We're all prayerful that this can be resolved.
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We don't want to have an armed conflict with china.
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And and if they move on taiwan, it puts us the whole world,
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A serious threat for all the reasons you noted,
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And i'm sure you've written about eloquently, you.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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House speaker mike johnson was born to two teenage parents.
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How does that shape his pro-life views?
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How did he come to faith in jesus christ?
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And does he believe that he and his party have a prayer
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To hold onto the house next year?
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Don't miss the conclusion of joel's exclusive conversation
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Direct from the us capitol in washington.
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When the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after the break.
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Right after the break.
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I think a lot of americans ought to be evangelicals.
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Still don't know you.
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I would just love for you to share a little bit
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About your own personal faith
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In jesus christ, because it's you've mentioned it
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Multiple times in this conversation,
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And it's not something that you keep in a closet.
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The fact that you are speaker and by the way, that you've held
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On, that's because,
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You know, sometimes by your nails, it's not an easy,
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When where does your faith come from?
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How old were you when you came to faith in jesus christ?
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And what what should christians know?
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What should americans know generally about
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Mike johnson when it comes to his personal faith?
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Try to summarize it very quickly.
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I mean, my my life stories is pretty simple.
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One i'm the product of a teen pregnancy.
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My mom and dad were high school sweethearts,
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And i was conceived their junior year in high school.
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It wasn't expected.
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It was exactly a year before roe v wade.
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January of 72, roe was decided january 22nd of 73.
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And but abortion was still available.
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And lots of people try to convince them
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You can just take care of that problem.
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But briefly
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Thankfully for me,
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My parents were
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Raised in catholic families, and they knew something
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About the sanctity of human life.
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And they decided, well, gee, i guess
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We gotta we'll start a family.
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So they dropped out of school and went to work and had me and,
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My father became a firefighter and, they,
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That we had had three younger siblings and we had a
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Great christian family.
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It wasn't easy because they were trying to make ends meet.
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My dad had to do for jobs at a time.
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And when i was 12 years old, in 1984,
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My dad was, an assistant chief on our local fire department.
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He was blown up in an explosion on the job.
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It got it burned 80% of his body, a third degree burns.
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We were a christian household.
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I mean, i was
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I was raised in church from the time i was little.
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I got baptized in a horse
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Trough behind our country church at age seven.
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Okay, that i didn't know. yeah.
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And, it was, great.
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We didn't have a lot of material things,
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But we had a lot of love in the family.
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And it was, i had a great childhood.
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But when my dad got injured, he was permanently disabled
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After that, having burn, burn, burn everywhere in his body.
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And he, retired from the fire service.
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And so my sole, goal in life
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Was to be the chief of the shreveport
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Fire department in northwest louisiana, my hometown,
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Because i grew up at the fire and police training academy.
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My dad was also a training officer in us.
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And, i just loved the whole fraternity
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And the heroism and the service of that.
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But after dad got injured,
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They encouraged us to go to school.
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So i became the first person in my family
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To go to college and then went to law school and,
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And wound up somehow in the speaker's office.
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You know, it's a long route.
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But look, my faith has gotten me every day in my life.
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And, it's very real to me.
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When i was 12 years old and i saw my dad's
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Life miraculously spared,
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It wasn't just an ethereal concept.
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I mean, i was a little guy, but i thought, this is real.
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God is active and involved, and we can turn to him.
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And, that's informed how i orchestrate my life.
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I have a biblical worldview.
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It's not something you can separate.
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It's not something you guys do on sunday mornings.
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It's.
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It's a seven day a week, 365 approach to life.
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I follow the biblical mandates as best i can.
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The commands, the principles and scripture is
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What guides us, guides me here every single day.
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And if you if you employ the commands of scripture,
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It works pretty well.
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You know, the creator is the one that gave us all those and,
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Those guidelines.
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And i try to follow them here
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And i try to encourage others to do it as well.
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And by the way, that's seen as some sort of radical thing here.
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It's exactly what the framers of our great republic did.
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They believed those same principles.
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It's what created our country and we were built upon that.
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And, we do well to stick by it.
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I appreciate your,
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Your the depth of your faith and your openness
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And talk about it. all right. i have to ask you last question.
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Do you have a prayer and hold in the house?
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If not, i'll just frame it that way.
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I mean, that is a big concern of everybody.
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You got a razor thin margin and a lot of challenges.
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We have more than a prayer. that is the prayer.
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But i have a have a
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Have a conviction and a belief that we're going to grow.
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The majority for the republican party
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In the midterm election will defy history to do.
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It's only twice i think, the last 90 years
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That a sitting president has picked up seats
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For his party in that first two year cycle,
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But we'll do it this time. two quick reasons.
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Number one, we had a true demographic shift
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In the last election.
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We had large groups of people who had come to the party,
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Hispanic and latino voters, black
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And african-american voters, jewish voters, union workers,
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People who hadn't been with us in large numbers. they are now.
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We just demonstrated with the big, beautiful bill
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And the rest of our agenda that that we're for them.
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And it's going to
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Our policies are good for them, benefits them.
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Oh, and it's not woke. progressive marxism.
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I'm like the other team off. it's okay.
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We're going to hold those coalitions
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And we have a very favorable election
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Map going into 26 there.
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There are many more democrats in the districts
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That trump won than republicans sitting in districts
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That kamala harris won.
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So that makes it a very favorable situation for us.
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We recruit qualified candidates.
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We put them out there in the field,
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We show the alternative, and we're going to flip
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Blue seats to red.
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I'm absolutely convinced that we're going to be
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On this ballot.
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But yeah, that's. good to know.
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I want to thank you. one last thing. as we close,
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You defunded planned parenthood.
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Okay, maybe only one year, but we'll take it year by year.
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That's something we've been praying about for a long time.
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Yeah.
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To protect life at so many levels.
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But that's one of the.
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And i was just in iowa with, governor
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Kim reynolds and governor sarah huckabee sanders.
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We were speaking at a conference,
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And this was one of their most important things
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That they were talking about why this bill was so important?
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Well, thank you.
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I worked in the pro-life movement was my life.
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And, it's always been a big goal
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For us to end the forced taxpayer funding of abortion.
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And we did that.
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The big beautiful bill, the house version.
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We did it for ten years.
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The senate crazy parliamentary rules,
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You know, limited it to one.
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But it's a big thing, a very big thing.
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And the first time that that's been done,
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I think it's the biggest win for the pro-life cause since
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At least when it was overturned.
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And one of the biggest in our lifetimes.
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It's a long time box that we wanted to check, and we did.
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So by god's grace, will hold the line and
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And we will learn to
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To respect the sanctity of every single human life again
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And to rebuild a culture of life.
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It's an ongoing quest for us, but it's one we must undertake.
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Speaker. it's an honor.
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Thank you so much for what you're doing.
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Thank you. we're praying for you.
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My wife and i are family praying for you.
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And and, i think many,
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Hopefully all tbn viewers are praying for you as well.
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Thank you so much. we appreciate it. we survive on it.
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And thanks for the book. i look. forward again.
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I don't have a lot of time.
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It's really hard
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To have a summer break at some point, i hope.
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Yeah, i don't know.
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We'll see.
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I bless you. thank you so much a lot.
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I'm very grateful to house speaker mike johnson, for
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Sitting down with the rosenberg report, talking to us on tbn.
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And, and
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We're publishing all of this, of course, on digital news.
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And i'm grateful to him,
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First of all, for what he's getting done.
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That his love for
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Israel, his his love for the pro-life movement,
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The pro-life cause, you heard him
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Tell his personal story that he is a
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He is a product of, of a young couple,
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In love in high school but got pregnant out of wedlock.
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And if abortion had been legal or the choice of his parents,
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Even when it wasn't legal, he would not exist.
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So it's very interesting
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To me to get a sense of who this man is.
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And, he's getting a lot done.
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I'm very encouraged by what he's getting done, but
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We need to keep praying for him.
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The bible tells us he.
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The bible commands.
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The apostle paul commands us,
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To pray for kings and governors and all those in authority,
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So that we can live tranquil and peaceful lives.
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This is the will of god in christ jesus.
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And i just want you to be praying for speaker johnson.
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There's a tremendous amount of political warfare against him.
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Media warfare against him, and of course, spiritual warfare
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Against him.
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But he's getting good stuff done.
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I'm grateful for him,
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And i appreciate you praying for him, his family and his team.
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Keep praying for israel.
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Keep praying for our neighbors.
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Keep praying for the liberation of iran,
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From the wicked regime over there without having to,
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You know, send boots on the ground.
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I'm not talking about that, but
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That the lord would bring this regime down and raise up,
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The people of iran to be liberated
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And pray for complete and total victory in gaza.
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It's a it's still a brutal fight there.
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And we still
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Got to get all our hostages out there, and we still need
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To keep praying. thank you so much for watching.
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Thank you for being with us this week on the rosenberg report.
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And may you have a great and peaceful week
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With your family and your friends as you walk
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In the power of the holy spirit.
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Spend time with the lord in his word.
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Care for the poor and needy.
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Pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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Have a great week
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And lord willing,
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I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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Joel Rosenberg: Johnson Talks US-Israel Relations | The Rosenberg Report

July 23, 2025 | 29:35

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