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Tonight on The Rosenberg Report, Joel Rosenberg remembers Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgri.

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Tonight on the rosenberg report
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Who was yaron lischinsky?
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The young israeli diplomat who was murdered in washington
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In cold blood,
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Along with his girlfriend, sarah milgrom, on may 21st
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By a crazed gunman shouting free palestine, free palestine.
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Is it true
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The young jewish couple were about to fly to israel
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Just days later to get engaged, to be married?
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And is it true they were born again
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Followers of jesus, the jewish messiah?
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As some media outlets have reported, a candid,
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Moving and exclusive interview with yaron's older brother
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Hanan lischinsky his first interview on any u.s.
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Or israeli network.
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Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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In may
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The world was shocked.
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Israelis were shocked.
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Americans were shocked by the murder,
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The senseless murder,
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The brutal murder of two young israeli diplomats.
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Yaron lischinsky and his girlfriend, sarah milgrom.
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They met at the embassy.
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They were about to get engaged.
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In fact, they were going to be flying here to jerusalem
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To meet yaron█s family for the first time.
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And yaron had bought an engagement ring
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And was planning to propose on this trip.
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But at a jewish
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Event in washington, dc, they were gunned down
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By a lunatic who was shouting, free palestine, free palestine.
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And we're still grieving their deaths.
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And this particular story hit very close to home
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Because one of the brothers of yaron lischinsky,
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Worked for all israel news is a colleague of mine
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As an amazing journalist and a strong
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Believer in jesus, in yeshua, as was his brother.
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And tonight we have the first interview
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That hanan lischinsky has given on television
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To any israeli or american network,
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To tell the story of what happened.
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How is he and his family are processing it?
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Telling us about the faith of yaron lischinsky.
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Because it was important to him.
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Two of my sons knew yaron.
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Had been in a young,
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A young people's,
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Bible study with him, had played soccer with him
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And loved his heart. loved his faith.
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I never had the opportunity, the privilege, the honor
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Of meeting yaron lischinsky.
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But we're going to talk tonight to his brother, hanan.
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Good evening, and thank you so much
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For coming in and spending time on the rosenberg report.
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Hanan, i'm so sorry for your loss, your family's loss.
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But welcome to the rosenberg report.
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Thank you for being willing to
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To talk about what's happened and how you guys are doing.
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Thank you for inviting me.
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It's good to be here.
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Maybe we start chronologically.
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Where were you
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When you personally heard the news of what had happened?
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Yeah.
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Well,
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As a journalist, first thing i do is, check the news, actually.
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So i, woke up early. i,
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Checked all the news.
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I saw that there was a shooting in washington.
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And in the beginning, i didn't really think,
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You know, yaron would be there.
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I didn't know exactly what the event was.
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I started checking it, and then i saw that in the family group.
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My younger brother, one of my younger brothers,
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Was already, checking he already sent the.
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Whatsapp group or something in the whatsapp group.
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Each other. exactly.
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So then we started worrying.
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But in the beginning, we didn't really think it would be.
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You know, washington is a big city, and
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We didn't know exactly where where he would go that evening.
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So actually
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That younger, he's the youngest, of five.
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We're five children and boys.
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And how many. girls? we are four boys and one girl.
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So three. then the girl, and then the youngest.
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Where do you fit in? i'm the oldest. okay?
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I'm the oldest. yeah.
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So, actually, yaron and i, we were the closest in age, so
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Just, year and a half difference.
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So that youngest brother, he works,
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Or worked in embassy security, actually, also
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In, ecuador, in quito at the time,
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And he was the first to find out.
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We, we now know,
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Through contacts, through people he knew, in washington
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And the security of that embassy.
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So he called me at some point
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And told me and, just told me to, drive to my parents.
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I lived the closest, to them.
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They live in a small, kind of village outside of jerusalem.
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So then i just,
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Try to pull myself together.
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And so he told. you this was happening?
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And were you the one that was supposed
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To tell your parents the news?
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Well, he he didn't say he couldn't really plan all of it.
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And i was, you know,
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I just tried to pull myself together as much as i can.
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I can't imagine.
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And, i don't know how i drove.
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It must be, like, four kilometers or something.
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Just over the highway.
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So i got there, and i.
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I actually didn't tell them.
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I didn't know how to tell them,
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Yeah.
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So i then i stayed with my parents
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And then our other brother,
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Who was also an embassy security in, in paris and france.
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He had also found out and he told my parents,
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Over the phone,
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So i could be with them at least,
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Those two of my brothers were, outside of the country.
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The plan was for the police, the local police department
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To be the first ones there to to tell them
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And then very fast, the foreign ministry,
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People came and they came.
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This continued for the next until now.
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Basically, the foreign ministry has been,
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Like, unbelievably good to our family.
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They've been grieving with us.
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And they just arrived at some point,
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I think we had ten people from the foreign ministry
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In our living room. since that morning
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Really the for days, there was almost
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An unending stream of, people who just, showed up at our door.
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And this includes, the foreign ministry people,
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From all kinds of,
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Ranks within the foreign ministry.
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But very quickly, ambassador leiter called our family,
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Within within a couple of hours.
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We later found out that he was actually the one to tell,
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Sarah's family, the milgrom family, to
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To really deliver to them these news.
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They hadn't heard through siblings or i.
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Believe that they didn't, hear
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An official confirmation until he called them.
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So for us, it was already, afterwards.
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But he called within, i think, 1 or 2 hours.
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And also told, you know, just
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In a short phone call that he, he said, you know, he
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Really feels the pain of,
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Of my father and my mother and,
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And in the in the days after,
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I think, the foreign minister, gideon saar also first called,
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And then he actually came
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To our house as well, together with, ambassador huckabee.
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Okay.
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As well as the, homeland security secretary kristi noem.
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Who was sent, i believe, by trump,
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Especially for that reason, came to israel and,
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Was really
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Touching all of the all of the visits.
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And i just want to mention.
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You're dealing with, grief, but you're also in
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A level of shock, perhaps.
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And then and then you've got to welcome all these people.
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It's a very interesting moment.
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You're in a very, visible place.
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You have to be hospitable or you're trying to be anywhere.
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You have to be.
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But, so that's a weird place to be in.
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It's, actually, since we.
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Well, both of my parents didn't grow up in israel,
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So this, this jewish custom of, shiva,
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Which means that you sit in your home for seven days
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And people come to to comfort you and to grieve with you.
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They also didn't really grow up with this.
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So for all of us, it was really our first, experience of this.
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And we have to say, it was really
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In a surprising way, i think, very comforting.
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So, for example, for my mother, she's from germany.
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You said you had to be a host.
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She really felt like she had to be a host, which,
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You know, people come into our homes.
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She will never just sit down and, let them, you know, see,
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She cleaned in between and she kept busy.
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Which was good.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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What exactly did yaron lischinsky believe?
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How did his faith shape his life?
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Did he described himself as a messianic jew, as
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An israeli christian, or did he use some other term?
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And how was faith upholding the family as they confused
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To grieve your own in sarah's brutal murder?
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More of joel's
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Exclusive conversation with yaron█s brother, hanan,
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When the rosenberg report continues on tbn right after
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The break.
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The break.
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Hanan, talk to me about, your family's faith?
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Your faith, your own faith.
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Because this has come out in the news coverage over
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In the days that followed.
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And, of course, our audience, tbn,
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The most watched christian
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Tv network in the united states and in the world.
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Very interested.
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So, you know, but i want you to put it in your words.
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Yeah.
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So, my my father is an argentinian jew.
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Also,
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According to all the jewish laws,
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He comes from a jewish family.
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But he found faith in yeshua and jesus as the jewish messiah,
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When he was young.
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I think he was still in his teens in argentina.
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Wow. okay. yes.
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How old was he when he made aliya?
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So he was,
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I think 20 or 21 years old when he came with his mother.
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He only grew up with his mother.
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In buenos ares. okay. and,
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So he came to israel and a
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Couple of years later, he met my mom, who is german.
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Okay.
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So she's from a german lutheran family, actually,
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My grandfather is a retired, pastor, lutheran pastor.
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So they met.
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And of course, they're not.
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She doesn't have a jewish background.
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She doesn't have, well, there is,
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Somewhere in the family past. okay.
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No immediate background.
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But their common faith was really the basis for them
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Meeting each other, here in jerusalem and,
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Marrying and, so yaron and i were
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Then born in jerusalem, again a couple of years later.
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Amazing.
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And you guys served in the military?
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Yes. so we actually we moved, to germany
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A couple of years later.
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I was three young. one was one year old.
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And then we returned when i was 16 and he was 14.
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And all of the younger siblings, of course, as well.
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And we all served in the army and,
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Yeah, all of my siblings still live here now.
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How old were you when you came to faith in jesus, in yeshua?
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And how about your own?
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So we grew up, with,
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In a, in a, believing household.
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We, you know, we each of us, really took individual decision
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At some point. right?
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But we grew up in, in, in germany, we went to a kind of,
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You could call it evangelical, even though it's not the same,
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Exactly the same thing, but in this kind of,
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Church or,
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Kayla, we would say in hebrew church.
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And when we came back to israel.
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Yes, in the congregation, and so when we came back to israel,
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We also joined the local messianic jewish congregation.
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Also here in jerusalem.
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So that was a controversy that, a minor one,
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But came up when i did a story, on your own.
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I described him as,
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A christian, as a believer.
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I didn't use the term messianic, but but i got some blowback
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From messianic jewish people who said
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What are you talking about? his father's jewish.
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He's part of the jewish believing community.
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Why aren't you using this term?
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And i and i would just say,
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I hope i wasn't being disrespectful.
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My understanding
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From my reporting was that this is how he described himself
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As a diplomat.
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So for me, i was not raised as a messianic jew.
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Somebody asked me, are you sure that i'm jewish?
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I believe in you sure as messiah.
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So that's makes me messianic.
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I go to a messianic congregation here in jerusalem.
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But in my world, which is often in the political world
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And business world.
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So i was raised evangelical.
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That's the way i think of it.
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And, and because there's a sensitivity in the israeli
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Political and diplomatic world about messianic judaism, i don't
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I don't need with that term, but i don't shy away from it.
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It's just not my self-identity.
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But i've gotten some, some criticism.
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What's what's a fair way to understand you, your family
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And your own? since he was the focus of all this attention.
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So i think you can really go into a long discussion
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Here of exact terms and meanings and,
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To make it short, i think yaron would
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Not have rejected the term, messianic jew out of hand.
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He was very proud of his jewish
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Identity, of his jewish heritage.
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However, there's always a discussion involved that i think
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You touched on that as well.
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When you say you're a messianic jew in israel,
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Then people start asking, are you a jew?
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According to the jewish religious laws, which we aren't
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Because of father. father's but not.
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The mother is an important side.
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So you want to think at some point we we all,
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Individually, me and my siblings who wrestled with this,
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Question of terms, i think anyone at some point,
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Decided it's just easier, especially when he's,
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Outside of israel, to say i'm christian, you know, this is
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Because this is what we are.
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He has the.
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Right to the same thing.
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Exactly, exactly.
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I mean, he again, he never,
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Rejected his jewish heritage or something like that.
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Like i said, my boys, knew him and spent time with them and
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And were very impressed by the depth of its faith.
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Quiet, kind, very engaging, interested in everything
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And everyone.
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And they they said his faith was very strong.
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And they never, you know, it never even dawn on them
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To think, to ask him what his how he would describe himself.
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Yeah.
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You were just part of the believing community here.
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I think it also depends a bit on the context.
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I think, as you said.
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I mean, it's very our backgrounds are kind of similar.
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So it depends where you are, where if you want to avoid,
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Unnecessary discussions.
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You know, sometimes in israel you can just say you're,
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You're a christian.
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And then people accept that.
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I personally, i've said often i don't want to
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I don't want really to argue with people
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About whether i am a jew or not.
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I am very proud
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Of being of jewish heritage and proud of being an israeli,
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As we'll see on.
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He was very zionist, you know.
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But if people will ask me, yes, i am a
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Messianic jew, this is something i identify with as well.
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But i would never reject the term christian author.
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Sure.
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Let's talk about, your own relationship to sarah,
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As i understand that they met at the embassy, she
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She was raised in a reformed jewish community in kansas, and
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And they seem to have met and started dating at the embassy.
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Is that is that accurate? yeah.
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Yeah, that's, they really met, amid the,
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The carnage of the war of october 7th.
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I mean, they were in washington, of course, but,
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This is something that i think also influenced
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Sarah in, joining the embassy shortly after.
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And, yaron actually, this wasn't his job,
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But because of october 7th, he, started,
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Helping out in the department where sarah was working.
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To help out
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With all of the work, of course, because of october 7th.
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And that's how they met in the embassy.
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And they they were in love, like,
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Again, i don't want to assume anything.
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Like you're here. you're you're part of the family.
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The reporting is that, that was publicly reported.
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Was that that he had bought a ring
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And that he was planning
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That they were coming to jerusalem the very next week,
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And he was going to introduce her to you all.
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I don't think any of you had met, except maybe on the phone.
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And then he was going to propose.
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Are those facts?
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So actually, the the ring story is an interesting one
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Because we haven't really we don't know about
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We didn't know about it
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And we haven't found out if that's true. oh, okay.
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There was no ring found, but we haven't actually gotten to,
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His apartment.
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I was supposed to fly, when all of the iran, troubles
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Begin now.
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Okay, this was canceled, and i was supposed to fly
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With two of my siblings to open the apartment, and actually.
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Maybe things up there. maybe we will find a ring.
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We don't know. okay, he did want to propose.
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That's something we do now.
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They were
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Supposed to come to israel, and that was one of his main ones.
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Main objective was for the family to get to know sarah.
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You know, to get the approval, of our parents, in a way.
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And, to have them know her before he,
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Proposes.
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And actually, this is something that we found out
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During the shiva. he what?
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He was planning to propose, at the western wall, actually.
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Oh, wow.
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So he had already contacted friends, to be there with him,
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But he hadn't actually told us yet. yes.
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How long was he or were they going to be in the land?
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They were supposed to be here, i think ten days.
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They had moved their flight a couple of times.
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Also because of the
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The problems with the flights, even before the iran war.
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But they were supposed to be here,
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When we were sitting shiva and morning, you know, they
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They were supposed to land one of those days.
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Wow, wow.
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What did your parents,
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Particularly your mom, what had she planned?
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For their arrival?
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Well, actually, you must have been excited to have a son.
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I mean, you're married, but, but this was the second,
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In the family to get married.
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The third. the third, would be the third.
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But she was very excited.
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Of course she was.
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So since then, actually, she sent a couple of times.
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She's
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She's not bitter.
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We are all, thank god.
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Really. we have to say this.
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Thank god we're not bitter in any kind of way, but,
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She said a couple of times that she felt,
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Cheated, you know, out of this time, out of this
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Getting to know sarah and
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And seeing one getting married and and
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All of this.
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But they were supposed to be here for ten days
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And then go back to the us and possibly would have,
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Done a civil marriage in the us.
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And then
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They planned to come to israel to, to move to israel here
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A year later. yeah.
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So actually i,
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I talked about that with y'all and just, just days before.
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Yeah.
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What is your faith,
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And his, teach you about where he is?
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Well.
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That's where they are.
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I don't mean to leave it.
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I'm just saying you didn't know sarah that well, right?
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You're about to meet her.
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But, you know, you knew your brother.
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That's been the only and the biggest comfort
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For us as a family, actually, your faith and,
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You know, we're just we're so, so sad.
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Like.
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But at least we know, you know, we have this hope.
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We have.
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We know that that we will meet you alone again.
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We know that he's with our father in heaven now.
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And that is, i think, the only comfort
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You can have in this, in this kind of situation.
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So as i mentioned, we're not bitter.
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We're trying to be,
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You know, thankful for the time that we did have with him.
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He really was a blessing to all of us for 30 years.
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But i i'm just so thankful to the lord.
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You know, we can
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We really don't have a bitter heart
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Or, we're just extremely sad.
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But, you know, one day we'll
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We'll see you all and again.
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And, i look forward to meeting him in heaven.
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Yeah, we were saying it's it's only us, you know, it's only
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We are grieving now. he's,
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It's such a cliche, but he is in a better place,
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And he's not suffering now.
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Next week on the rosenberg report,
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Don't miss joe's exclusive interview with house speaker
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Mike johnson direct from the us capitol in washington.
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And don't miss the conclusion of joel's moving conversation
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With yaron lischinsky█s older brother, hanan, about
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How can we be praying for the families of your own
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And his girlfriend, sarah milgrom, after the tragic
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And brutal murders in washington?
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It's all coming next when the rosenberg report
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Continues on tbn right after the break.
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Continues on tbn right after the break.
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Hanan, what are some of your favorite memories
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Of your own, things that you think we ought to know
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And how best can we remember him and honor him?
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Well, there there's so much, obviously. but,
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I mentioned at the outset that we were very close in age,
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So we actually grew up together the whole time we shared a room
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Until we left our parents house.
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So most of our lives actually,
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You know, there's all of the memories of playing together,
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Playing soccer together.
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He was a great soccer player.
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Was supposed to be.
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As my son, one of my sons has played with him.
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And enjoyed.
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Yeah, he would have been
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A professional, probably in germany. wow.
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At some point, he discovered this
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Whole world of diplomacy and, politics actually.
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And, since i also went in a kind of,
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The same route, you know, i just, i mean, we're.
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Going to cover it,
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You're going to cover events, and he was going to.
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Create them, create.
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The event. yes. yes.
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So i miss him about 20 times a day when i see something
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Interesting on x and just want to share it with him.
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You know, he was always my first address to comment
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On something happening in the us or happening with the war or
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It's all the little things.
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You know, i've been
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Asked a couple of times what are my favorite stories?
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It's i don't have one of the big stories,
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But it's just the small things, you know.
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How are you dealing with with grief?
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I mean, some of it is god's mercy.
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Again, the week of sitting shiva,
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Having a lot of people you're
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You're almost focused on outside yourself.
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You're focused on,
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You know, talking to other people and remembering
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And sometimes, you know, even laughing. but then
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Everything sort of fades and you're sort of left
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Dealing with, you know, i've got a friend,
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Who just lost his wife after almost 50 years,
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And he says the grief, he goes,
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I got to keep working because there's no point
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Just sitting in my home and doing nothing.
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I'll just, you know, i'll collapse.
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But on the other hand,
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The grief comes upon me in moments i don't expect.
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It's triggered by the things.
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I don't even think they're going to trigger me.
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How are you doing and how is your family doing?
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I can i can identify with that.
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For me at least,
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I, i think we've all been trying to keep very busy and
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We didn't really have to try.
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You know, there's so much going on,
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Technicalities of,
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The burial and the funeral and everything after and,
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Politics, of course, in israel, the iran war, you know, there
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Really hasn't been a quiet minute, i think,
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Since then, which in some ways is good.
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In other ways, we're exhausted.
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Yeah, well, we're all exhausted, but that.
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But but having grief on top of.
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All. that we're dealing with is, it's.
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It's hard.
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It's harder on my parents,
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Which, you know, it's really something. yeah.
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People can pray for,
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But i think we'll have to see in the coming months
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How how we feel.
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People say that sometimes there is a depression setting
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In, you know, after all of the the things are settling down.
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I think also for believers that
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All of our friends are believing community are praying,
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Praying, praying for us.
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They're standing with us, they're showing sympathy,
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And they don't mean to stop praying.
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It's just like goes on.
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They focus on other things and sort of that prayer,
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Support starts to drop.
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And that plus just the regular
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Rhythms of life can then, you know, you're out
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Of the spiritual bubble of that protection.
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God really does give a peace that passes all understanding.
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And it's not that he won't again.
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Of course he will, but it's just that sometimes
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I think that drop out of prayer
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Really does affect us more than we realize.
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But i think even even in this case, we've heard
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From so many people around the world.
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And i at this point, maybe i'll
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Just want to say thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
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In the name of my family we've heard from around the world from
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And this is not just evangelicals.
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We've heard from catholics and jews and
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There's
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Literally, i think, hundreds of thousands of people,
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At least, who are praying for us, who are thinking about us.
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And even if some of those maybe
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Some of those prayers fade, there's been so much that i'm
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Sure we
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We know that people are still
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Thinking about us and praying for us, and that's
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The only thing you can do.
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It's also the most, most important thing for us.
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Well, and you also have
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I always have to remind myself that you've got,
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Your brother and, the love of his life before the
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Throne of the lord, interceding because he knows he's happy.
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They're good, but.
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Yeah, but they know what you're going through, and,
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They're interceding for you every day.
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Yeah. hanan, thank you.
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Thank you for your friendship.
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Thank you for your love for israel.
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Most importantly, your love for the lord.
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Thank you for being a great journalist with all israel news.
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And thank you for,
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You and i have been talking about this for a few weeks.
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Like, do you even want to,
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You know, you're a journalist, you're behind the scenes.
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You're not trying to be the story.
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You're trying to cover the stories.
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And, it's sort of a not the most comfortable role.
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But i appreciate you coming on the rosenberg report
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And talking about your brother and your family and your faith.
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It means a lot to me, and i.
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I know it will be to our audience.
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Yeah.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Absolutely.
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Hanan lischinsky the older brother of yaron lischinsky,
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Murdered by a crazed palestinian activist
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Or pro-palestinian activist,
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With his girlfriend sarah milgrom
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In washington, dc in late may.
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Please pray for the family.
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And please think about if you don't know the lord
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Jesus yeshua yourself don't know the hope
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That comes from knowing him personally,
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The eternal hope as well as the hope right now.
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Spend some time in the new testament, spend
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Some time in the in the gospels and consider who you share.
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You sure claim to be.
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For me, that's the only hope that there is in this world.
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I know that's true for your own and his family.
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Thank you so much for watching this edition
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Of the rosenberg report.
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May god give you a a wonderful week.
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As you walk with the lord closely, spend time in his word,
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Spend time in prayer
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Time and worship time and fellowship
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With other people who love the lord.
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Loving your neighbor, loving your enemies, tough as that is.
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And praying for the peace of jerusalem.
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Have a great week,
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And lord willing, i'll see you next week
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Right here on the rosenberg report.
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Joel Rosenberg: Remembering Yaron Lischinsky & Sarah Milgrim | The Rosenberg Report

July 16, 2025 | 29:30

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