What do Evangelicals want to know about the future of Israel, Gaza, Iran and Benjamin Netanyahu? Joel Rosenberg gets the answers at The Family Leadership Summit.
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The Rosenberg Report | Joel Rosenberg: Understanding the Israel/Iran Conflict | The Rosenberg Report | August 13, 2025
- Tonight on the rosenberg report
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- As hostage negotiations break down,
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- Prime minister netanyahu orders the idf to invade gaza city,
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- Triggering global condemnation of israel
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- And sparking intense debate inside israel.
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- Can netanyahu survive politically as key allies quit
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- His coalition?
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- Is a political tsunami
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- Coming to wash the netanyahu team out to sea?
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- And how in the world were
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- Netanyahu and other israeli leaders blindsided by the hamas
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- Invasion on october 7th in the first place?
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- And is there any hope of expanding the abraham accords?
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- Amid so much fighting a crucial conversation with evangelicals
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- In the midwest about the future of the middle east,
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- Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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- Now that israel
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- And the united
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- States have bombed
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- The smithereens out of the iranian
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- Nuclear program, neutralizing it,
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- Doing serious, substantial damage.
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- Now that israel has destroyed the top leadership
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- And much of the military capacity of hezbollah,
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- The iranian terror proxy in lebanon.
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- Now that israel has done so much damage against hamas,
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- But isn't yet done with the fighting in gaza,
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- What are evangelical christians asking?
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- What are they interested in?
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- Good evening and welcome to the rosenberg report.
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- I'm in denver this week, but a few,
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- A few weeks ago,
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- I was in des moines, iowa, for a conference of about 1200
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- Evangelical christians
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- From all over the united states, mostly the midwest, interested
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- In the mideast.
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- Now, there were a lot of people speaking at that conference.
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- It wasn't a summit.
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- This was called the family leadership summit.
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- It wasn't focused on israel
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- And what's going on in the middle east, iran and elsewhere.
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- It was focused on a lot of conservative issues,
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- Arkansas governor and
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- Rising, conservative evangelical republican star,
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- Sarah huckabee sanders was there.
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- It was wonderful to spend some time with her,
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- The iowa governor, who's beloved in that state and served in
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- As either lieutenant governor or governor for 16 years,
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- Super pro-life, super pro-israel, pro-growth.
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- Kim reynolds was also there, and she gave a keynote.
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- And it was wonderful to spend time with her,
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- Including lunch with her and her husband, kevin.
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- So the family leadership summit in,
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- Des moines
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- Wasn't focused on israel, but bob vander plaats,
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- Who is the leader,
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- The director
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- Of the family leadership
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- Summit and the ministry
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- That runs it, and he also serves on the advisory board
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- For all israel news.
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- And he asked me to come,
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- If you're going to be in the stage
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- Or would you come and speak to our folks
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- And let me interview you to talk about,
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- To answer the questions that the evangelicals are having.
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- So i'm going to show you tonight.
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- The interview that we did,
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- And it'll take up our whole show tonight.
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- Yes, i will do my trump impression in that interview
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- And a few other presidents as well,
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- But i hope you'll find it interesting.
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- And i hope, that in bob asking me these questions,
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- That you'll get the answers that you need as well.
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- The first time that i went to israel, i went with you in 2014.
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- We were there.
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- Hamas was firing in in the rockets.
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- The sirens were going off.
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- Everybody that we talked to said, well, hamas is doing this.
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- Don't take your eye off iran.
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- Explain to us a little bit about iran, because obviously,
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- You know, so many years later, a decade later,
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- Iran is the one that's the focus right now.
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- But explain why iran.
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- Well, biblically, iran was a friend of israel.
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- It was cyrus the great who liberated
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- The jewish people,
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- Sent us back home to israel to rebuild, rebuild jerusalem,
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- Rebuild the temple.
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- And they got mexico to pay for it.
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- No, no, actually,
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- Sorry, i that's not in the bible.
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- Persia the king himself paid for it
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- Rebuilding.
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- The. rebuilding of, of israel and rebuilding of the temple.
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- And so there's been very warm relationship,
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- Biblically, historically.
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- But the rise of the ayatollahs, particularly
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- The supreme leader, ayatollah khomeini in 1979
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- Brought in such a wicked and demonic regime
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- Whose mantra was death to israel and death to america.
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- Remember, israel is only the little
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- Satan in their end times theology.
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- The united states is the great satan, and they.
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- And starting with taking the u.s.
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- Embassy hostage on november
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- 4th, 1979, humiliating americans for 444 days.
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- And ever since, they have either been taking americans hostage
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- Or killing us or maiming us for half a century, almost.
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- And and but they decided to make a concerted effort
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- To wipe israel off the map.
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- Let me just finish off the little.
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- And that's their mission statement.
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- That is their mission.
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- And then they'll come after the great satan.
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- And so they launched a seven front attack
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- On october 7th, 2023.
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- While they were there, we,
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- You know, we live there were dual u.s.
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- Israeli citizens.
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- I told you last night over dinner, being a dual u.s.
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- Israeli citizen means you get to vote twice.
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- It's like living in chicago and...
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- And you don't
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- Even have to be dead. so,
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- But we don't have a 50% love for one country
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- And a 50% love for,
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- You know, we have 1,000% love for both countries.
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- But we were there and, and, and through our ministries,
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- The joshua fund and all israel news,
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- We have been living through the missiles, the rockets,
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- The pain of so much death and so much destruction,
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- So much terror and so many missiles.
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- It's exhausting, but iran is behind all of it.
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- They're the ones that funded
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- All of these seven different terror organizations.
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- They're,
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- You know, the ones you hear about
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- Are hezbollah in lebanon, hamas in gaza.
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- But they're we've been attacked on seven fronts,
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- For almost two years, including directly from iran.
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- Iran has ever actually never directly attacked israel
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- In history until,
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- Just recently.
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- Just april of last year, then again in october of last year.
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- And then, you know, the most recent, they usually.
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- Use their proxies. exactly.
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- The goal is to get us focused on and drained by
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- Attacking their or defending ourselves
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- From their terror proxies and not, you know,
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- And not dealing with the head of the snake.
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- One of the
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- The images, out of israeli leaders uses it's an octopus
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- And that we're
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- Dealing with the tentacles, but we never go after the head.
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- And that's the iranian regime.
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- I have a tv show on tbn called the rosenberg report,
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- And i had just done an exclusive interview
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- With the former prime minister of israel, naftali bennett.
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- He's the most
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- Famous and, well, not most famous,
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- But most popular leader in israel
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- Right now, he's out of office,
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- But he's getting ready
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- To come back and take on netanyahu,
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- Not getting into the internal politics.
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- My point is, thursday night of that week,
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- He was on the show saying it's enough already.
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- Netanyahu has to go after the head of the octopus.
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- You need to attack iran.
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- We can't wait any longer.
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- And i'm not saying there was a direct correlation.
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- I'm just saying a few hours later, the attack began.
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- And so this was a huge game changing moment.
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- Not just the israel started attacking without
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- The assurance that america was ever going to come to us,
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- Because we never asked america to come fight our war for us.
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- But president
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- Trump had made a promise iran would never get the bomb.
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- And and to his credit, he gave iran's leaders
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- 60 days, 60 days to make a deal or else he was super clear.
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- But i didn't believe he meant 60 days.
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- I just thought he was being generous.
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- Let's get a process started.
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- I can tell you for darn sure
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- The iranian leadership didn't think 60 meant 60.
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- Because nothing's meant anything.
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- It's the red line keeping moving.
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- Bill clinton you know
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- I told him i told him you can't you can't get a nuclear weapon.
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- I'll never i'll never let you get it.
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- George h.w.
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- Bush not gonna do it.
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- Never going to get the bomb.
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- Not gonna do it.
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- Now, at this juncture, no juncture, but no, no.
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- Nobody ever.
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- You know, george w strategic.
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- You know, he's like, we're going to everybody said
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- Iran would never get the bomb.
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- But then they're like two weeks away.
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- And israel, a very little country
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- Where 10 million they're 92 million.
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- They're 80 times larger in terms of size.
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- They have oil. we do not.
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- You don't usually
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- Punch that far above your weight.
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- And i'm, you know, i have some weight.
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- I don't punch that high. i'm just saying
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- Israel had to do it
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- Because we were facing a second holocaust.
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- But president trump kept his word.
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- He said 60.
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- And on day 61, he called me and he said eight.
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- I gave them 60.
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- They didn't listen.
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- Oh, do what you gotta do.
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- And day 61, the war began.
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- Oh, and god bless then trump for coming in
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- And doing what he didn't have to do.
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- Amen.
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- But he did it with a tremendous courage.
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- Amen.
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- Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
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- Can prime minister
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- Netanyahu survive politically as key allies quit as coalition
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- Is a political tsunami coming to israel?
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- And how in the world were netanyahu and other israeli
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- Leaders blindsided by the hamas invasion on october 7th?
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- In the first place, find out when the rosenberg
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- Report continues on tbn right after the break.
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- Report continues on tbn right after the break.
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- Welcome back to the rosenberg report.
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- I'm in denver tonight
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- As i've been traveling all over the country,
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- Meeting with evangelicals,
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- Giving speeches, doing media and so forth.
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- But i want to take you back to a conversation
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- That i had just a few weeks ago in des moines, iowa,
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- At the family leadership summit as the head of that summit,
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- Bob vander plaats, who serves on the advisory board
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- Of all israel news and is a wonderful pro-israel
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- Evangelical.
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- As he interviews me about the main questions,
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- The key questions that he's hearing evangelicals asking,
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- Particularly in the midwest,
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- About what's happening in the mideast.
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- I was speaking in atlanta, georgia, october 6th.
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- I was in line
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- The tsa precheck line in the atlanta airport,
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- Which is like an hour long for tsa precheck in atlanta.
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- And we were scheduled to leave for israel october 20th
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- With a delegation of the family leader going to israel and
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- My boys started texting me about, hey,
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- Do you hear what's going on in israel?
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- And i really thought, this is
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- Going to be one of those quick flash shutdown.
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- We still go. on october 20th.
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- What happened on october?
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- How how was israel caught that off guard?
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- I mean, i've been there with you.
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- As i said, we've looked at the iron dome.
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- We toured the gaza strip.
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- They're constantly on high alert.
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- How did october 7th happen?
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- If you can even suggest.
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- How it's very difficult so far to even grasp that.
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- Right.
- 00:11:36.852 --> 00:11:37.386
- Like the commissions
- 00:11:37.386 --> 00:11:39.021
- Haven't even begun because we're still at war.
- 00:11:39.021 --> 00:11:41.257
- We're trying to win this thing up. i think we're getting there.
- 00:11:41.257 --> 00:11:43.492
- But it's it's, you know, we've been fighting on seven fronts.
- 00:11:43.492 --> 00:11:47.129
- But to think that prime minister netanyahu, who,
- 00:11:48.063 --> 00:11:51.000
- Who understands radical islamism better than anybody on
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- The planet
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- And has been warning the united states
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- About the threat of radical islamism long before
- 00:11:56.205 --> 00:11:59.208
- 911, even how he missed it, how his team missed it
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- Is one of those moments that, it's hard to explain.
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- I think politically, it's very likely
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- That when the net connections come,
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- They're scheduled for october 26th.
- 00:12:13.255 --> 00:12:15.457
- They could come sooner.
- 00:12:15.457 --> 00:12:16.692
- I think you have to expect there's going to be a political
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- Tsunami, and everyone that was involved in missing it
- 00:12:21.463 --> 00:12:25.668
- Will be washed out to see.
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- He has been very successful in
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- In winning a war that that he didn't see coming.
- 00:12:31.073 --> 00:12:34.877
- So that that's to his credit tremendous credit.
- 00:12:34.877 --> 00:12:38.214
- But basically israel
- 00:12:38.214 --> 00:12:40.649
- Got lulled into a false sense of security
- 00:12:40.649 --> 00:12:44.320
- Because netanyahu and president
- 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:46.989
- Trump had made four historic,
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- Abraham accords, peace and normalization agreements.
- 00:12:50.426 --> 00:12:52.995
- And we were this close to another deal in this case,
- 00:12:52.995 --> 00:12:57.499
- The mother of all peace deals with saudi arabia.
- 00:12:57.499 --> 00:13:00.703
- And so things were generally calm, and, of course,
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- And even hamas,
- 00:13:04.673 --> 00:13:05.774
- Which had been sending
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- False signals that they were a little overwhelmed
- 00:13:06.842 --> 00:13:09.545
- And they just didn't want a conflict. and,
- 00:13:09.545 --> 00:13:12.615
- We we were blindsided and it was so big.
- 00:13:12.615 --> 00:13:17.620
- Let me try to insert and i don't want to steer the interview,
- 00:13:17.620 --> 00:13:21.590
- But every mission seeks an opportunity.
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- And i believe they saw
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- At least weak leadership of the united states at this point.
- 00:13:28.163 --> 00:13:31.233
- That's true.
- 00:13:31.233 --> 00:13:32.668
- And now they see very strong leadership in the united states
- 00:13:32.668 --> 00:13:35.771
- That. is truly.
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- Give us the difference of what you see just in the leadership.
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- Yeah.
- 00:13:39.975 --> 00:13:41.210
- So so there was a an open door, but there was also an urgency.
- 00:13:41.210 --> 00:13:44.546
- Like in other words, we say on passover as jews,
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- Why is this night different from all the night? why?
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- Why was the night of passover? was the moment that god rescued?
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- And why do we remember it for?
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- For all of history,
- 00:13:53.622 --> 00:13:54.890
- There was an opportunity and that israel's guard was down.
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- In fact, it happened to be the 50th anniversary
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- Of the last sneak attack by egypt and syria on
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- Yom kippur, the high holy day, 1973.
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- And so most soldiers were on vacation.
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- They were home with their families and
- 00:14:11.473 --> 00:14:13.175
- And nobody saw this coming.
- 00:14:13.175 --> 00:14:14.243
- So there was an opportunity.
- 00:14:14.243 --> 00:14:15.945
- But the other thing was the urgency.
- 00:14:15.945 --> 00:14:17.413
- Iran's leadership sought the urgency, which was
- 00:14:17.413 --> 00:14:20.382
- They were hell bent on destroying, blowing up,
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- As it were, the coming israeli saudi peace agreement.
- 00:14:24.186 --> 00:14:28.190
- Because once the saudis makes peace with peace with us,
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- Almost all other muslim countries will say,
- 00:14:31.093 --> 00:14:33.295
- All right, well, then we don't have to agree
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- With israel on everything, but we can have peace,
- 00:14:35.264 --> 00:14:37.333
- We can have tourism, we can have investment.
- 00:14:37.333 --> 00:14:39.201
- Indonesia is the largest muslim country
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- There, right on the edge of coming in.
- 00:14:41.103 --> 00:14:42.871
- I think lebanon might come
- 00:14:42.871 --> 00:14:44.039
- In, syria might come in, which is a crazy thought.
- 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:47.309
- So it was the combination.
- 00:14:47.309 --> 00:14:48.711
- But yes, the weak leadership seen in president biden,
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- Who had just lost afghanistan
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- After 20 years of blood,
- 00:14:54.917 --> 00:14:57.987
- Toil, treasure and tears,
- 00:14:57.987 --> 00:15:00.889
- Had just essentially pulled the jenga stick
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- Out of the game in afghanistan when everybody,
- 00:15:03.425 --> 00:15:06.495
- Including senior democrats, do not do that, don't pull u.s.
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- Forces out at that moment.
- 00:15:10.332 --> 00:15:12.401
- He did it. afghanistan collapsed.
- 00:15:12.401 --> 00:15:14.536
- The taliban took over.
- 00:15:14.536 --> 00:15:15.971
- And so now it was open season.
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- And so,
- 00:15:18.474 --> 00:15:19.742
- Russia went into ukraine,
- 00:15:20.309 --> 00:15:22.544
- Or iran attacked us from seven directions.
- 00:15:22.544 --> 00:15:25.280
- And we just feared that
- 00:15:25.280 --> 00:15:27.816
- China would go after taiwan and try to take over the pacific.
- 00:15:27.816 --> 00:15:30.919
- That's
- 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:32.287
- That's the theory in the most recent novel,
- 00:15:32.287 --> 00:15:34.423
- The beijing betrayal, that i wrote
- 00:15:34.423 --> 00:15:36.091
- Just a couple months ago.
- 00:15:36.091 --> 00:15:37.092
- But but thank god that has not happened yet.
- 00:15:37.092 --> 00:15:40.429
- So, so,
- 00:15:40.662 --> 00:15:41.897
- So what i saw with my friends in israel is that there was like,
- 00:15:41.897 --> 00:15:45.067
- Just a renewed resolve
- 00:15:45.534 --> 00:15:47.736
- To get rid of hamas after october 7th.
- 00:15:47.736 --> 00:15:50.806
- They're like, we're going to uproot it once and for all.
- 00:15:50.806 --> 00:15:53.809
- And i even think when they went in
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- Without the united states, basically
- 00:15:55.277 --> 00:15:56.945
- Sanction them to go in kind of like,
- 00:15:56.945 --> 00:15:58.547
- No, we're going to take care of business.
- 00:15:58.547 --> 00:15:59.848
- Iran is weakened, hamas is decimated,
- 00:15:59.848 --> 00:16:02.951
- Hezbollah is decimated.
- 00:16:02.951 --> 00:16:04.820
- Here's our opportunity.
- 00:16:04.820 --> 00:16:06.155
- I think president trump saw
- 00:16:06.155 --> 00:16:07.456
- How strategic israel was and taken out key leaders
- 00:16:07.456 --> 00:16:10.659
- And that their intelligence was really good
- 00:16:10.659 --> 00:16:12.828
- And everything was set up for president trump.
- 00:16:12.828 --> 00:16:15.130
- Still a huge decision, and he's the one to make that decision.
- 00:16:15.130 --> 00:16:20.069
- Do you believe that all played into the timing?
- 00:16:20.069 --> 00:16:23.138
- I do i think that israel is the ally
- 00:16:23.138 --> 00:16:26.375
- That president trump considers the the paradigm.
- 00:16:26.375 --> 00:16:30.412
- This is the type of ally we want.
- 00:16:31.146 --> 00:16:32.781
- An ally that doesn't complain, isn't begging.
- 00:16:32.781 --> 00:16:36.018
- If it gets attacked, it fights.
- 00:16:36.652 --> 00:16:39.054
- If it gets hit back on our heels,
- 00:16:39.054 --> 00:16:41.390
- We we put our own sons and daughters in harm's way
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- To defend ourselves and american interests and values.
- 00:16:45.160 --> 00:16:48.330
- We have four sons.
- 00:16:48.330 --> 00:16:49.932
- Three of our sons.
- 00:16:50.365 --> 00:16:51.834
- Well, two have already served in the idf,
- 00:16:51.834 --> 00:16:54.236
- Including one in special forces.
- 00:16:54.236 --> 00:16:55.604
- And our youngest just started on may 4th.
- 00:16:55.604 --> 00:16:57.973
- We're all in, and we didn't ask
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- The united states to come fight for us.
- 00:16:59.908 --> 00:17:01.110
- We did ask for the tools, to finish the job,
- 00:17:01.110 --> 00:17:05.180
- Because, again, we're not fighting for just for ourselves.
- 00:17:05.180 --> 00:17:08.117
- This is this is about a movement that's coming for america.
- 00:17:08.117 --> 00:17:12.020
- They tried on 911 and they got pushed back.
- 00:17:12.020 --> 00:17:15.124
- And they are regrouping.
- 00:17:15.124 --> 00:17:16.425
- And if they got nuclear weapons, this
- 00:17:16.425 --> 00:17:18.393
- This would be the ultimate game changer in a horrific way.
- 00:17:18.393 --> 00:17:21.663
- So, but i think president trump sees,
- 00:17:21.663 --> 00:17:24.900
- You know, israel as, as a paradigm, as the best ally.
- 00:17:24.900 --> 00:17:28.670
- It's more than an ally.
- 00:17:28.670 --> 00:17:29.805
- It's a partner that you can't think of
- 00:17:29.805 --> 00:17:31.473
- Any other country that's fightin
- 00:17:31.473 --> 00:17:35.911
- But that
- 00:17:36.178 --> 00:17:37.346
- Is to fighting and winning so creatively, but,
- 00:17:37.346 --> 00:17:41.083
- You know, appreciates being able
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- To buy the weapons that we need to finish the job.
- 00:17:44.019 --> 00:17:48.157
- We don't have a standing army.
- 00:17:48.757 --> 00:17:50.192
- We're not a continent.
- 00:17:50.192 --> 00:17:51.193
- We don't have 330 million people.
- 00:17:51.193 --> 00:17:53.195
- We're a very small country, and our army are reservists.
- 00:17:53.195 --> 00:17:57.466
- And the country is exhausted right now.
- 00:17:57.466 --> 00:17:59.101
- And we don't have even though we attacked.
- 00:17:59.101 --> 00:18:01.003
- And we were going to do everything
- 00:18:01.003 --> 00:18:02.137
- Necessary to destroy the iran nuclear, arsenal.
- 00:18:02.137 --> 00:18:05.340
- And regime and industry.
- 00:18:05.340 --> 00:18:07.910
- Still, we don't have what the united states only has.
- 00:18:07.910 --> 00:18:11.613
- We don't have 30,000 pound bunker buster bombs
- 00:18:11.613 --> 00:18:15.417
- That can go through a mountain
- 00:18:15.417 --> 00:18:17.019
- When we don't have the b-2 bombers that can deliver them.
- 00:18:17.019 --> 00:18:20.822
- That's the only thing we didn't have.
- 00:18:20.822 --> 00:18:22.324
- So we were willing to send boots on the ground and, like,
- 00:18:22.324 --> 00:18:25.827
- Attack everything around the last three sites
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- And then send troops
- 00:18:29.131 --> 00:18:30.365
- In special forces troops in to take weapons, bombs.
- 00:18:30.365 --> 00:18:34.870
- You know, explosive, deep, you know, just literally bury them,
- 00:18:34.870 --> 00:18:38.407
- Which we did in 2007 when we destroyed the
- 00:18:38.407 --> 00:18:41.777
- The syrian nuclear reactor,
- 00:18:41.777 --> 00:18:43.478
- Both by bombing and special forces. but
- 00:18:43.478 --> 00:18:46.381
- President trump decided that it was in america's interest
- 00:18:47.516 --> 00:18:50.385
- To finish the job and thus bring that war to an end faster.
- 00:18:50.385 --> 00:18:55.090
- It's interesting.
- 00:18:55.524 --> 00:18:56.625
- He did it against the strong resistance and advice
- 00:18:56.625 --> 00:19:01.363
- And counsel of some very close friends of his, tucker carlson,
- 00:19:01.363 --> 00:19:05.734
- Who has become very anti-israel, leader.
- 00:19:05.734 --> 00:19:10.005
- I warned you about this last year, and unfortunately,
- 00:19:10.005 --> 00:19:12.507
- It has really come true even more.
- 00:19:12.507 --> 00:19:14.376
- And steve bannon, it's been another who are
- 00:19:14.376 --> 00:19:16.345
- Right on some other issues and we appreciate.
- 00:19:16.345 --> 00:19:18.313
- So we got to navigate that.
- 00:19:18.313 --> 00:19:21.116
- But they argued openly that the president
- 00:19:21.116 --> 00:19:24.853
- Was abandoning maga and abandoning american values
- 00:19:24.853 --> 00:19:29.258
- And starting a war that would end forever.
- 00:19:29.258 --> 00:19:31.827
- Well, it didn't and lasted 12 days.
- 00:19:31.827 --> 00:19:34.963
- President trump wasn't starting a war.
- 00:19:34.963 --> 00:19:36.798
- He was ending a war that started in 1979,
- 00:19:36.798 --> 00:19:40.235
- And israel did about 97% of the work.
- 00:19:40.235 --> 00:19:44.039
- And that doesn't
- 00:19:44.439 --> 00:19:45.540
- Minimize what he did, because only he could do it.
- 00:19:45.540 --> 00:19:48.243
- And certainly president biden wasn't going to do it.
- 00:19:48.243 --> 00:19:51.346
- So this is such a huge moment.
- 00:19:51.947 --> 00:19:55.017
- The us alliance has never been stronger, and u.s.
- 00:19:55.017 --> 00:19:57.986
- Power and credibility is stronger
- 00:19:57.986 --> 00:20:02.057
- Than any time since reagan.
- 00:20:02.057 --> 00:20:04.660
- And we're talking about
- 00:20:04.660 --> 00:20:06.128
- What i would just spend an hour with, ambassador
- 00:20:07.095 --> 00:20:09.998
- Mike huckabee in washington two days ago.
- 00:20:09.998 --> 00:20:11.767
- It's our lead story on allisraelnews.com.
- 00:20:11.767 --> 00:20:15.103
- So i encourage you all, just to your heads,
- 00:20:15.103 --> 00:20:17.406
- Going down to allisraelnews.com.
- 00:20:17.406 --> 00:20:19.107
- The lead story is my interview with huckabee.
- 00:20:19.107 --> 00:20:21.710
- And huckabee said,
- 00:20:21.710 --> 00:20:24.046
- Trump is bringing about change in the middle east
- 00:20:24.046 --> 00:20:26.448
- And in the world
- 00:20:26.448 --> 00:20:27.616
- And in the united states of biblical proportions.
- 00:20:27.616 --> 00:20:31.820
- And he said particularly, it's the russians who are watching.
- 00:20:31.820 --> 00:20:34.923
- It's the chinese who are watching.
- 00:20:34.923 --> 00:20:37.025
- It's the north koreans we're watching.
- 00:20:37.025 --> 00:20:38.493
- It's not just iran's regime that has been affected.
- 00:20:38.493 --> 00:20:41.530
- All of america's enemies are saying,
- 00:20:41.530 --> 00:20:44.232
- Oh, when trump says something, he mean, it means it.
- 00:20:44.232 --> 00:20:47.469
- When he says, the jerusalem's the capital of israel,
- 00:20:47.469 --> 00:20:50.138
- He means it when he says he's going to move the embassy,
- 00:20:50.138 --> 00:20:52.207
- Even though every other president said it.
- 00:20:52.207 --> 00:20:54.042
- He means it when he says, i'm going to give you 60 days
- 00:20:54.042 --> 00:20:57.679
- To make a deal, you better take 60, because comes 61.
- 00:20:57.679 --> 00:21:02.117
- It may be hellfire and brimstone.
- 00:21:02.117 --> 00:21:05.220
- That's pretty powerful.
- 00:21:05.721 --> 00:21:07.189
- And netanyahu and trump just spent the last week
- 00:21:07.189 --> 00:21:11.193
- Assessing what they had accomplished
- 00:21:11.993 --> 00:21:13.595
- And then strategizing, where do we go from here?
- 00:21:13.595 --> 00:21:17.199
- Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
- 00:21:18.066 --> 00:21:20.502
- What else did evangelicals in the midwest
- 00:21:20.502 --> 00:21:23.071
- Want to ask joel about what's happening in the middle east?
- 00:21:23.071 --> 00:21:26.808
- Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
- 00:21:26.808 --> 00:21:30.512
- Right after the break.
- 00:21:30.512 --> 00:21:33.003
- Right after the break.
- 00:21:33.003 --> 00:21:36.785
- Welcome back again to the rosenberg report.
- 00:21:37.686 --> 00:21:39.788
- Again, we're here in denver this week,
- 00:21:39.788 --> 00:21:41.957
- But i want to take you back to a conversation
- 00:21:41.957 --> 00:21:43.625
- I had just a few weeks ago at the family leadership summit
- 00:21:43.625 --> 00:21:46.962
- When bob vander plaats, the head of that summit,
- 00:21:46.962 --> 00:21:49.264
- The head of a wonderful ministry in iowa,
- 00:21:49.264 --> 00:21:53.034
- And on the advisory board of all israel news
- 00:21:53.034 --> 00:21:55.404
- As he interviewed me about the key questions conservative
- 00:21:55.404 --> 00:21:58.907
- Evangelicals in the midwest are asking about the mideast.
- 00:21:58.907 --> 00:22:02.411
- Let's watch the rest of that conversation.
- 00:22:02.411 --> 00:22:04.946
- The world recognizes strength,
- 00:22:04.946 --> 00:22:07.649
- And they're seeing strength in president trump,
- 00:22:07.649 --> 00:22:09.584
- And they're seeing strength that he's
- 00:22:09.584 --> 00:22:11.153
- Going to do what he says is what he's going to do right.
- 00:22:11.153 --> 00:22:15.023
- And you also saw, i think, a humility in the press
- 00:22:15.023 --> 00:22:17.993
- Conference after he did bomb iran, where he he said,
- 00:22:17.993 --> 00:22:21.663
- I thought just out of his heart, he said, love you, god.
- 00:22:21.663 --> 00:22:24.566
- And what that said to me
- 00:22:24.566 --> 00:22:25.767
- When he said, love you, god is i hope i did right by you. god,
- 00:22:25.767 --> 00:22:30.071
- But i want you in the tower.
- 00:22:30.672 --> 00:22:32.207
- She said, thank you, god.
- 00:22:32.207 --> 00:22:33.508
- Thank you.
- 00:22:33.508 --> 00:22:34.576
- Because not a single plane was shot down, right?
- 00:22:34.576 --> 00:22:37.112
- No one was injured on the us side.
- 00:22:37.112 --> 00:22:39.448
- I mean, and then and i love you, god, that was really amazing.
- 00:22:39.448 --> 00:22:42.117
- And that was off script.
- 00:22:42.117 --> 00:22:43.051
- I mean, that was definitely off script.
- 00:22:43.051 --> 00:22:44.553
- That's butler extrapolated out into how he's leading exactly.
- 00:22:44.553 --> 00:22:49.558
- And so i believe for such a time
- 00:22:49.558 --> 00:22:51.593
- As this, he's positioned for such a time as this.
- 00:22:51.593 --> 00:22:54.996
- Obviously, there's a myriad of voices out there.
- 00:22:54.996 --> 00:22:57.165
- You mentioned a couple of them,
- 00:22:57.165 --> 00:22:58.600
- But you know this audience here.
- 00:22:58.600 --> 00:23:00.836
- Why is it imperative that america
- 00:23:00.836 --> 00:23:04.072
- Stay and with the nation of israel?
- 00:23:04.072 --> 00:23:07.409
- There's two reasons i would say, although there's a whole
- 00:23:07.409 --> 00:23:09.778
- Bible full of them.
- 00:23:09.778 --> 00:23:11.680
- But i'll narrow to two.
- 00:23:12.180 --> 00:23:13.949
- Okay.
- 00:23:13.949 --> 00:23:15.083
- So one is that god
- 00:23:15.083 --> 00:23:17.252
- Repeatedly says that he considers
- 00:23:17.252 --> 00:23:19.721
- Israel the apple of his eye, and he says, don't
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- Touch the apple of my eye. now, what does he mean?
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- He's talking about the pupil.
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- That's a it's an idiom for the pupil,
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- Which you don't want someone to come touch, right?
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- Even jesus refers to.
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- Hey, you know,
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- Why don't you take the plank out of your own eye
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- Before you come after somebody else's eye? right?
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- Even to help.
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- It's very sensitive.
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- But the second thing
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- Is, it's the lens through which god sees the rest of the world.
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- So that's how central israel is.
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- Secondly, he said famously in genesis chapter 12,
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- The abrahamic covenant, he's going to choose
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- Abraham and his descendants,
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- Give them land, give them a blessing, so forth.
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- But then he says specifically,
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- I will bless those who bless you,
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- But those who curse you, i will curse.
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- Now, iran's leadership has been cursing israel
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- For, you know, almost five decades.
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- And there's a point of no return.
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- Now, i'm not saying it's over, but i'm saying
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- We as followers of jesus christ, you don't have to agree.
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- And this is the whole debate between tucker and ted cruz,
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- Which i thought ted did a great job.
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- Senator cruz did a great job.
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- But i think, you know, we need to remember that
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- There are biblical.
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- We're not just dealing
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- In a world of of geopolitics and cost benefit analysis.
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- Those are important.
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- And israel lines up great on that as an ally.
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- But there's also biblical truth
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- That israel is a country that's lost.
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- It's the house of the lost sheep of israel.
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- Although more jews are coming to faith than ever,
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- Faith in jesus, and i'm one of them.
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- But but we're supposed to love them because god loves them
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- And he has a plan for them. and that plan is not over.
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- And he and he's he's taking names, right?
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- If you if you curse israel or if you abandon them,
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- There are consequences that we can't afford as a country.
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- We've got enough troubles.
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- The ship of state is now turning in a
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- In a much better direction.
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- But, you know, that's very fragile
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- Come a year from now, we could lose the house.
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- We could lose the senate.
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- And then what?
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- Then where are we?
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- So we need the blessings of god on our country at every level.
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- And president trump has just shown
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- That for american interests,
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- As well as standing with an ally and showing
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- The enemies of the world who's boss
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- And the allies of the world, we will not cut
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- You loose like some voices in america would have it.
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- President trump did the exact right thing.
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- And now the question is for
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- Followers of jesus christ,
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- I think to also be praying for the church
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- In israel and throughout the region,
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- Because through all the volatility in the violence,
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- The whole region is rattled.
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- It's a region within darkness, and it's a region without hope.
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- And the hope is the light of the gospel.
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- And so one of the things that
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- Passionate lens my passion and i appreciate yours is
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- How do we strengthen
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- The church in israel and in the arab muslim world
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- To be strong, to be loving, to be bold for the gospel,
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- To plant new churches, to strengthen
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- The pastors, to care for the poor, needy,
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- And to bring hope in a region that has no hope.
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- And that the gospel would go forth in iran
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- And that gospel would go forth in israel as well.
- 00:26:23.571 --> 00:26:27.609
- Guy man, joel rosenberg is such a friend.
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- Read his novels, go to allisraelnews.com,
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- Tape the rosenberg report, the joshua fund, he does it all.
- 00:26:34.249 --> 00:26:38.553
- Give it up for joel rosenberg.
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- Thank you.
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- Such a friend.
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- Well, i hope that was helpful for you
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- As you try to get the answers that you need,
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- To engage with family, friends, others in your church,
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- In your community
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- About what's happening in israel and the broader middle east.
- 00:26:51.199 --> 00:26:53.868
- I'm so grateful to bob vander plaats
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- And the entire amazing team at the family leader
- 00:26:55.670 --> 00:26:58.773
- Ministry, who put on that family leadership summit.
- 00:26:58.773 --> 00:27:01.843
- What a joy to be out there.
- 00:27:01.843 --> 00:27:03.645
- Well, that is our show for tonight.
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- Please keep praying for israel for total victory over hamas,
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- For the release
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- Of all of our hostages and for the utter collapse
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- Not only of hamas, but of the iranian regime as well.
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- Please pray for israelis and palestinians
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- Who are suffering
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- Through this terrible war and that it could be over soon.
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- Please keep,
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- Loving your neighbor, walking with the lord
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- Jesus christ, spending time in his word,
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- Spending time in prayer, spending time in worship,
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- Loving your neighbors, caring for widows and orphans,
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- Praying for the peace of jerusalem,
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- And loving your neighbors as yourself.
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- I hope you'll continue to do that.
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- I know you will,
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- And i look forward to seeing you next week right here
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- On the rosenberg report.
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