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August 20, 2025 | 26:44

Dr. Erez Soref joins Joel Rosenberg to discuss the ministry One For Israel.

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The Rosenberg Report | Joel Rosenberg: United for Israel | The Rosenberg Report | August 20, 2025

Tonight on the rosenberg report,
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Amidst war, terror, surging anti-semitism
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And a world that seems to be spinning out of control.
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Why are more jewish people searching for god than at any
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Other time in human history?
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How has one ministry in israel found a way to connect
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With millions of jews under spiritual quest.
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And why have their videos
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About jesus been seen more than a half million times?
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A conversation with doctor erez soref, the messianic jewish
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President of one for israel, one of the most effective
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Jewish evangelism ministries in the world.
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Tonight on the rosenberg report
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Is it really true that in 1967,
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There were fewer than 2000 jewish people on planet earth
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Who believed that jesus is the messiah?
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And is it really true that that number has grown from 2000,
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About 60 years ago, to a million?
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Why are jews all over the world,
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But particularly also in israel,
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Curious about who jesus is?
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Why are they watching videos with short form testimonies?
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Hundreds of millions of times.
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Good evening and welcome to the rosenberg report.
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What's interesting to me about right now is we have covered
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Messianic pastors in israel all over israel.
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How are they responding to the war?
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How are they handling it?
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But today,
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I just want to take a little bit of of a break from focusing
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On war to focusing on the desperate spiritual need
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Of my people, the jewish people, and israelis in particular.
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And i'm going to do that today with
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Doctor erez soref.
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He is the, president of one for israel,
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Which is a ministry you're going to hear about.
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It's not only an evangelistic
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Ministry and a discipleship ministry,
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And a media and multimedia ministry.
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It also they also run a bible college,
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The only accredited bible college in israel.
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And, eric is a friend.
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And here we are in dallas together.
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Great to see you, my friend. god bless. you alone.
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Yeah, i'm with you.
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I want to get right into this story.
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In the second section, i want you to talk about
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A little bit of your testimony.
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I want people to meet you and and get to know the story.
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It's amazing.
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But i want to start with...
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When did you guys actually begin
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What is one of the most dramatic,
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The most dramatic thing that your ministry is doing,
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Of many,
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And the most dramatic moment
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In jewish evangelism in 2000 years -
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And that is the short form testimony videos of israeli
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Hebrew speaking jews who come to faith in jesus,
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Yeshua, and americans as well, myself included.
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But when did that idea start?
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I just want to give some context.
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So we started noticing a shift.
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I mean, i was i was, serving at the bible college,
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And we started noticing a shift among our students.
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So we had for quite a few years,
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First generation believers in jesus.
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You know, they just came to know the lord.
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They came to the bible, god and so on.
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But then we started getting second generation more and more,
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And we said, well, what's happening to,
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You know, new people coming in?
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And, you know, most of us
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Are the only believers in yeshua and our families.
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We start asking question,
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What's an effective way of telling our people?
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Now, this is 2008, 2009, right?
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And, you know, i don't come from a tradition
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Where i often say, god told me,
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But god told me to build television studios.
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Now i know nothing about
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Television or building or anything of that nature.
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You know a little more now than you.
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Did, a little more now than then.
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But, started praying about it.
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And sometime later, some of, the graduates of the bible college
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Younger than me came and said,
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We're going to have here an internet revolution.
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You know, we're going to have everybody with a smartphone,
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And everybody's going to get
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All their information from this one form...
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Youtube, and that's it. yeah. yeah, exactly.
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And so and they said, and we need to start
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Do all sorts of whatever our message is in this case
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The gospel message it in a media kind of format.
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And that's where he was kind of how the whole thing burst.
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And i think we have.
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So that was around you're saying ‘08, █09, ‘10.
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Right. by the time it happened, it was 2010 when we met.
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And i think the joshua fund...
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So the joshua fundm our ministry that is to bless israel
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And our neighbors, right.
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We raise money from american and canadian christians
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All over the world to invest in ministries.
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And we saw this as one of those really fascinating start ups.
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Now, the bible college itself wasn't the start up
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That was had been around for 15, 20 years at that point.
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But this idea of maybe,
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Maybe there's enough internet bandwidth, maybe short form
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Video, you can actually watch video.
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And it's not like the old aol...
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You know, trying to that dial up version.
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That way you couldn't see anything.
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So we started investing.
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We hope you build the studio. and that's right.
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Then something really i mean, we did not expect this
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This investment as it were.
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This it to take off the way it did.
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I think i think in that respect,
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I mean i think we turned your investment to a unicorn.
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You say you know this if we were in the high tech
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Business as opposed to the gospel,
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This was this was the blowout investment.
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And so anyway, the point was to share,
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You know, somebody
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Sitting in front of a camera just sharing their journey.
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And i think we live in a day
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In an age where when somebody just tells their story,
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People listen.
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I mean, it's just a personal account.
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So in hebrew, there's english versions of this.
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I got my own testimony. that's my dad's.
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That would be dozens and dozens of numbers.
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Yeah, but in hebrew.
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So where are we now
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In terms of the number of views
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Of the videos that you guys have produced
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In hebrew, of these testimonies.
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The number of videos produced?
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No, the number of views of these videos.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, israel is a country of 9 million people
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And the viewership is in the hundreds
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Of millions in this is the hebrew only.
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So just imagine how many stadiums
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We need to fill in, how many times.
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And so we defined the goal initially as saturation.
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I mean, nobody heard about jesus.
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How can we help people here? all right.
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And there was a tremendous, tremendous initial.
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I mean, we are at 100 million. we're at 150 million.
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About 150, 100.
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150 million. 150. yes.
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Now, in english...
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But in english then,
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And you guys a partner with some other people,
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But that,
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That was also a driver because you were trying
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To reach jews outside of israel.
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And where are we at that point?
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Because i lost track around 250 million.
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I don't i think it's higher than. it's a lot.
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It's a lot more. and that's close to 450 million.
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450 million.
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So okay, now just to be clear, let's go back to hebrew.
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That doesn't mean obviously, it doesn't mean
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That there are 150 million hebrew speakers.
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What it means is you are creating pringles
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And these are videos. and people like this metaphor.
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They can't eat just one. yeah.
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An israeli hebrew speaker
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Who watches a video of an israeli hebrew speaker
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Explaining why they accepted yeshua when
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They didn't even believe it.
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They never even heard of yeshua.
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And they're like, there's no way.
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And then they show it to a friend of the like,
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Can you believe that? that's crazy. that's whack.
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You know, they're saying in hebrew like,
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All right, well, look, another one.
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No, the other one, there's nothing to it.
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Because the idea that jesus or yeshua is for us, for our team
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Is such a revolutionary, radical concept.
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And when they find your channels
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Or you find them through google ads or whatever
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It is, it's a stunning moment of there's no way what
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What is happening to these people.
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It's amazing. all right, hold that thought.
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We actually have to take a break.
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We're going to get into this more.
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And i want you to hear erez█s story because...
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So now erez is running one for israel.
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This is this incredible dynamic, growing,
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Evangelism, discipleship
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And bible college ministry and with multiple facets.
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But he's not a ninth generation follower of jesus.
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He was the first believer in his family.
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How did that happen?
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How did god get hold of this sovereign native born israeli
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Citizen who really didn't care about religion?
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Certainly not about jesus?
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We'll tell you in just a moment.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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How did dr. erez soref go from a lost and secular
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Israeli jew fresh out from the israeli army
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To a passionate follower of jesus as messiah
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And the head of israel's only bible college,
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Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after the break.
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Right after the break.
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Welcome back to the rosenberg report.
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And we're in dallas, texas, where i'm on a two month
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Speaking tour all across the united states.
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For the joshua fund, our ministry
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To invest in ministries in israel
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And throughout the arab muslim world.
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How can we strengthen the church?
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In these times that are so challenging, right.
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The church needs to be strengthened,
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Prayerfully training, encouragement,
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Certainly financially.
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Then there are ministries that they're doing incredible work.
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The question how do people come alongside
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And invest
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In those ministries,
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Again, not just in israel, but to reach the palestinians
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And in the neighboring countries?
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And so this is a big part of what the josha fund does now,
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When we think of venture capital,
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We think of finding startups.
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And how does...how do
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How does a venture capital firm invest in, identify
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And then invest in a potentially high growth startup?
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That's really how the josha fund saw
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You and your team early on with
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What god is doing something amazing there.
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Now, as you guys have grown,
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You guys have grown larger than the joshua fund.
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You become a blue chip,
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An amazing ministry worth investing in.
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You don't need tjf dollar, but you do need support
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From christians all over the world.
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As you guys continue to grow, as people get to know you,
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I want them to get to know you because they're starting
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To get a sense of what one for israel does.
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But you're not somebody who is the son of a pastor
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Or son of a theologian like you are a secular israeli guy.
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After the army, kind of
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Traveling around the country trying to get your head clear.
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What happened?
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How did you find yeshua?
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How come nobody, nobody told me before?
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I mean, my family, my neighbors, my friends, my people,
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Nobody knows.
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Nobody tells us the best kept secret among the jewish people.
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I was
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Born to a, sephardic jewish family.
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Now my family are babylonian jews on my mom's side, and i,
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Sephardic jews are from spain on my dad's side.
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My mom would try to drag my brothers and me to synagogue,
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Maybe had something to do with our people.
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Thousands of years ago.
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But god was very, very far away.
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In school, we would study the old testament
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From first grade to 12th grade.
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We study it.
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History of our people as wisdom literature.
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Something that one just needs to know being jewish,
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But not as the word of god.
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After my military service, like a lot of israelis,
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I decided to travel the world initially in southeast asia.
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A lot of israelis are going there
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For the mysticism trail and the drug trail.
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I wanted to understand what they believe.
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And so i was
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Exposed to some hindu and some buddhist literature.
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I got to to realize that there is a spiritual reality.
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But this virtual reality
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I saw was very, very scary, was negative.
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It was dark, but it was very real.
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I ended up in amsterdam, holland,
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And i came there with merchandise to sell
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Because i ran out of money.
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It was there that i've met the group
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Of very enthusiastic young believers in jesus.
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And i said, well, i'm jewish and we don't believe in jesus.
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And they said, why jesus is jewish.
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And i said, i'm
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Not sure why, but i'm sure we don't believe in jesus.
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After about a year in southeast asia and in europe,
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I met a group of believers in jesus
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For the first time in my life.
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And, you know, they told me that jesus changed their life.
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And i said, great, good for you.
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I mean, bless your heart.
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And i think it's an expression i got from you.
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And, well, in texas, they don't actually mean it.
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It's a little bit of an evangelical curse.
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Like he's dumb as a post - bless her heart.
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She's ugly as sin- bless her heart.
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But actually, some of us mean it, you know. so then.
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So they told me, well, you know, no, it can change your life.
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And i told them my life is is, you know, need change.
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Good. yeah. i'm good.
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But, what? it was amazing thing.
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What happened to me, in fact, is one of the most crucial
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Missional tasks of the church that i think is,
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As i learned over the last 30
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Some years, is the most neglected.
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And it is to cause the jewish people to jealousy.
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And the way this happened in my case
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Is that those many of them young christians, you know,
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Not super sophisticated, not particularly knowledgeable,
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With the word of god,
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But they were very enthusiastic about god and his word.
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And, as i saw their life
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And i heard how they prayed, which, by the way,
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I think as believers in jesus, we get used to it
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That we talk directly to god right now.
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That's common now in the jewish world.
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Not that any.
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Road for that memorized prayers, speed, prayer.
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But, you know,
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Definitely quickly can we say so through their relationship
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With god and through their love for the bible?
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And to my amazement
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And to the hebrew bible, i asked them, i remember
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I asked him, why do you read the hebrew bible?
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I mean, don't you guys have the new testament?
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I mean, that's our book. and,
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It was through that that
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I was brought to jealousy, so to speak.
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And eventually i told myself, er, is you are a hypocrite.
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You need to read the new testament
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Because i would read other books.
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You're in europe, europe at this point, right?
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You're in amsterdam maybe. right.
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Okay. right. good memory.
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And so over a season of 2 to 3 months,
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As particularly as i started reading the new testament,
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I really like jesus.
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What did. you expect when you open. up this?
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That's a great book.
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So first of all, i discovered i had a prejudice,
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And it took me a couple of weeks
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Since i decided to read it until i actually read it.
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I expected, i guess,
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Horrible things about the jews or something.
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I mean, some jew.
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Nobody ever told me i expected it
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To be an anti-semitic handbook. yeah, yeah.
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And i found a genealogy page.
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One like this is all jewish.
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Exactly. abraham. david.
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I mean, these are people, you know?
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I mean,
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The gospels happen in israel,
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In places i've been to many times.
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And, as i said, the most, the most critical thing,
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I think, for me
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And for any, any jewish person that reads the new testament,
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I just fell in love with you. sure. with jesus.
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I mean, he wasn't like other religious leaders.
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And so i feel very drawn to him.
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Making a long story short,
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Through reading the bible and eventually i prayed to god.
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I just talked to god for the one of the first time in my life,
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I guess ask him to reveal to me if you sure truly is
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The messiah.
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I had a spiritual experience with the lord and
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I thought that was the first and only you know, jewish person
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Since paul or something to make this great discovery.
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And so in the, in the following days and weeks,
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I noticed that two things happened.
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One, i was hungry and thirsty.
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To read the bible was very strange for me.
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I mean, i read, i liked reading, but not the bible.
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And the second weird thing was that i started getting a lot
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Of zeal and passion,
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Thinking how?
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How come i've been in all those places
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So many times and i've never heard this?
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Yeah, meaning you live in the land of the bible.
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Absolutely. and even bible.
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The bible is taught in the israeli hebrew bible.
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Yeah. school system, the awesome.
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And and so i became very, zealous, you could say
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Enthusiast stick.
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Yeah.
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I said, i need to tell my, you know, my,
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My parents, my friends.
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And it's very enthusiastic about all my friends
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Becoming believers in jesus embracing.
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Great to see god.
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Take it that well. right.
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I mean, being.
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You know, a psychiatrist or something.
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I they did. yeah.
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So, i mean, you. must be crazy.
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The religious part of the family send me to the rabbi. okay.
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The more secular part of the family send me to,
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To the psychiatrist who actually declared
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Me sane, by the way. but you're right. i'm not.
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I should have asked that in writing. but
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I believe them.
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Yeah.
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I mean, i think maybe not so much, but,
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It's been a great season to be able
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To share the gospel in a way that our people can understand,
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They can relate to.
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It doesn't mean that everybody agrees.
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And all of those 150 million views,
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It doesn't mean that everybody embraces the gospel
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Or however many people.
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I would say about two thirds
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Of the people writing to us, contacting us, texting us.
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Do you want to know more?
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Because it's it's an us and us dynamic.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so now about about a third.
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Okay. quite negative. sure.
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I mean worst readers were terrible.
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But that alone is a reversal from 2000 years of history.
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Right.
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You think it would have been 98 to maybe 99,
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One to, hostility and resistance?
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Oh, yeah. that that level up. what?
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What you found
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Is a level of curiosity among israeli
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Hebrew speakers as well as jews worldwide, right?
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That i don't think any of us really thought because.
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And where else were jews going to turn?
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Most don't want to walk into a church, even israelis.
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Where would you turn
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To the church of the holy sepulcher to,
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You know, all the different tourist sites?
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That doesn't seem like a place
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That an israeli thinks they're going to find answers.
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Where where would they go?
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Who would they ask in a moment, when we come back
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For the last segment of the show,
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You know, your journey is so interesting because you are
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A, you know, you're a prototype of who you're trying to reach.
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You know, you were a secular israeli.
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You did the army, you grew up in israel, obviously.
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And your question is,
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I don't think i need anything.
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And then you start getting jealous as you see that
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Gentile evangelicals have a love for jesus,
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A love for god that you don't have.
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And it start it drives you into the word it's given you.
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Well, first of all, you didn't expect to
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Go on and run a bible college, much less this type of ministry.
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But i think in many ways,
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You know, the more people will get to know you,
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The more they're going to see.
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That's kind of cool that somebody who is not a ninth
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Generation believer,
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Who really knows what it meant to not know the lord,
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Be curious, seek,
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And then then get excited and think,
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How do i tell this to the rest of my people?
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How can i use creativity?
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Yes. theological accuracy.
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You, you know, you've got
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You went to get your theological training and all,
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But it's really interesting to think, how do we
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How do we
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Give people who are searching an actual way to listen,
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Without necessarily walking into a church building,
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Which is such an anathema to israel? all right.
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We'll be right back.
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When we come back, i want to ask erez soref, the head of
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One for israel ministries right here in dallas, texas.
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What are some of the
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Spiritual dynamics that he sees coming out of this war?
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Are his writings more interested in talking about god,
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The bible, and even yeshua jesus, or less so
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We'll get we'll be back in just a moment.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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When the war in gaza is eventually over,
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Will israelis remain as curious, even as hungry to search for
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God, read the bible,
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And even learn about jesus as they are today?
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And is it true that god is shaking
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The house of israel today as ancient biblical prophecies
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Once foretold?
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Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after the break.
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Right after the break.
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Okay, erez...
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Do you see any change dynamic?
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Are israelis more interested or are they in such a like,
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You know, shelter like, brace for impact type mode
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That they're not talking about the war or they're not,
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You know, what are you seeing and your team?
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You know,
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When the war just began, there was one sociologist, from
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One of the colleges in israel that came on, on radio, on tv.
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And she predicted that, like, it happened and after the,
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1973 yom kippur war, that people turned to religion,
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They turned to god, she predicted, is going
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To happen during and after this war.
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Okay.
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And, i texted her,
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I know if she ever got i said, i agree with you.
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We see that happening.
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And, you know, when do we call upon god as people?
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I mean, just the human experience.
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We call upon god when things are not going well.
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And as you said,
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And i 100% agree, this has been the hardest time
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For israelis and jews worldwide since the holocaust.
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And we have seen a tremendous, tremendous uprise
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In the number of people that contact us
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And the number of people that,
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Write to us that want to know more about the lord,
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The number of people that come to a saving knowledge
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Of yeshua, of jesus and so just a tremendous, tremendous,
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Upkeep.
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And i will say one more thing.
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I think israelis have seen during this war that the only
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Friends that israel have are the evangelical christians.
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Nobody else is our friend anymore.
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And this is why i think our tagline is, you know, from
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For one, for israel,
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The best way to bless israel is with jesus.
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And so when we give are the people that are suffering, we
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When we give them a cup of water in the name of yeshua,
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We start a relationship with them.
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And so,
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You know, feeding the hungry jewish people,
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There are many actually, i think it's portrayed
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Quite dramatically in some places.
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The goal and,
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You know, there are doing humanitarian relief,
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Humanitarian to not sharing the word of god,
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Sharing the gospel.
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Right. it's positive. yeah.
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But the most important thing is to have a relationship
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That will enable them to have, you know, the eternal, you know,
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Spiritual food, eternal hope in yeshua.
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And that's that's been our experience
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Far and wide, throughout the last 18 months.
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What do you think as the war, if we get to the point
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Which we hope and pray that we do that,
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Where things subside, where things get quiet,
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Do you expect that
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Spiritual interest to decline, or do you think that
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That something has gotten sparked that will go
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If obviously we've got a country that's facing trauma and
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And so people are going to need healing,
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But they may maybe they will
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Turn their ears away from god or what do you have a
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An instinct? yeah. hard to say.
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You actually have more data
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And intelligence than almost any ministry,
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Maybe than any
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Ministry in israel
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Because of all these
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Different streams of sources that you're watching.
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It's hard to say.
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I mean, i wouldn't be surprised again,
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Just by the human experience that,
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You know, we call upon god when things are really rough
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And then when things come down, you know, there's
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A lot of jokes about that which we don't have time for. but i
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I think is going to decline a little bit in time.
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But, you know, the movement of the group of jewish people
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That are followers of yeshua keeps on growing.
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And so i think now people under the age of 35 in israel
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All have heard,
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Some with more concern, some with joy,
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Maybe that there's a growing group of jewish
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People claiming yeshua jesus as our messiah.
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And i think that's going to continue.
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Well, i think we're in an amos 9:9 moment
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Where all israel, god said prophetically,
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I will shake the whole house of israel among the nations.
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So i don't believe israel is under judgment.
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I believe that it was satan that came and sent hamas in.
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God sovereignly, sovereignly allowed it.
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And i do think
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A major reason, probably
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The prime reason, is a shake the complacency of israel.
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We have abandoned
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Even the concept that the lord is my shepherd, right?
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Our greatest king wrote this psalm 23 but most,
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Most israelis don't care about the shepherd.
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They don't think they need a shepherd.
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And it's because we have forgotten
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Overall that there are ravenous wolves,
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You know, roaming the countryside trying to kill us.
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We got complacent because we have fought
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Arab-israeli peace treaties were secure.
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We got the iron dome, got a great air force, and i think,
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God, let's the country
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Gets shaken as he promised to, to do so.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much. we are so grateful.
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Thank you for watching.
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We unfortunately have to wrap this up.
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It's amazing how quickly,
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The rosenberg report goes by every week,
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But i'm so grateful for my friend, doctor
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Erez soref, president of one for israel ministry.
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I want you to learn more about it.
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And you can see the the information on the screen.
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Thank you for watching.
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Don't forget to pick up
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A copy of the new book, the beijing betrayal.
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You can find it at any bookstore,
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Amazon.com or anywhere else. thank you.
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I hope you enjoy it.
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From the outset,
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This has been joel rosenberg for the rosenberg report.
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God bless you.
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Have a great week with you and your family,
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And i'll see you next week, lord willing, right here
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On the rosenberg report.
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Joel Rosenberg: United for Israel | The Rosenberg Report

August 20, 2025 | 26:44

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