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Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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Iran on fire.
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Are these the end of days for the wicked,
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Cool and bloodthirsty iranian regime?
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I sit down with a former head
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Of the mossad, israel's legendary spy agency,
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A jewish james bond, to get the latest assessment.
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As more than 1.5 million protesters pour
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Into the streets of iran to demand their freedom.
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President trump vows to defend the protesters
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With american military strikes, and this fast moving,
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Grassroots and courageous counter revolution
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Truly toppled iran's supreme leader and his inner circle.
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And if so, who might emerge to lead
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Iran into a brave and complicated new future?
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It's an exclusive conversation with yossi cohen, israel's
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Former top spy.
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And it's all right here, right now on the rosenberg report.
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Good evening from jerusalem.
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And welcome to the rosenberg report.
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As all eyes are riveted on tehran,
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Wondering, wishing, praying for the iranian regime to collapse.
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Will it happen?
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Is this what we're about to see?
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Let us be crystal clear.
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The fall of this wicked, apocalyptic, genocidal
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Iranian regime,
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So long as it's replaced by a moderate,
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Peaceful, pro-american and ideally pro-israel
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Government, would be the greatest political
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Geopolitical event of the 21st century.
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Nothing else would even come close.
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Okay, let's be clear about that.
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Now, if and it's still a big if, but if president trump decides
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To actively help bring down the tyrants of tehran
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And use military force to set the iranian people free.
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This would be the single greatest achievement
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Of his entire career.
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That would be huge.
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Or, as the president might say, huge.
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Now the questions on every everyone's mind are these
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Now, in a moment, i'll show you my exclusive interview
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With israel, former top spy, to get his perspective
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On this fast moving and hugely consequential story.
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But first, here are the latest developments
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And it's important that we track these.
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Okay.
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Now somewhere upwards of a million
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A half, even to 2 million iranians have poured
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Into the streets of tehran, of iran and many dozens
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Of major iranian cities over the last two weeks.
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They're tearing down iranian flags.
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They're setting cars and government buildings on fire.
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And they are demanding change.
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Hundreds at least, but maybe over a thousand at this point.
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Iranian protesters have been killed, murdered
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By the regime's security services for thousands
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And thousands more have been arrested and beaten.
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The government
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Has shut down the internet, and they're trying to prevent news
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And images of the protests from spreading
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Inside the country or outside the country.
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They're also trying to thwart the opposition
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From being able to communicate and coordinate.
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But thank god it is not working.
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Day after day,
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The protests have been swelling in size and intensity.
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To his credit, president trump is openly supporting
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And encouraging the protest movement,
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Something his predecessors, barack obama
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And joe biden, refused and failed to do.
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That said, trump has also sent some mixed signals.
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Last week, the president dramatically and rightly
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Warned the regime not to attack and kill the protesters,
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Vowing that if they do, quote, america will come to the rescue.
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And the us
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Military is locked and loaded and ready to move, unquote.
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This was good, but
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President trump hasn't done it yet.
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And people are being killed. they are being arrested.
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They are being mowed down by iranian security forces.
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And the last few days, the president
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Has actually indicated that he's willing to talk
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To iranian officials who've reached out to him,
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Who want to open up a dialog, want to open up
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A set of negotiations.
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Iranian opposition leaders have pleaded with trump.
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Please do not get hoodwinked by this regime.
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They say enough is enough.
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Don't give tehran's leaders
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Any room to weasel their way out of this.
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Demand that they stop killing and arresting
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These protesters before any talks occur.
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If they occur at all.
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And i agree with that.
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And i urge you to be praying for the people of iran
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And for president trump to have wisdom from above
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And how best to navigate these very choppy and unknown
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Unknown waters.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
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I sit down for an exclusive interview with former mossad
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Chief yossi cohen, a real life jewish james bond.
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Why does he call what's happening in iran a counter?
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Does he believe
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That the protesters in iran can really bring down this regime?
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And who does he think will need iran
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If and when the country is finally liberated?
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Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after this break.
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Right after this break.
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Welcome back to the rosenberg report.
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As we watch iran engulfed in flames
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And as we pray for its spiritual and political liberation,
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Look, no one in israel better understands
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The iranian regime or has spent more time inside
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Iran as a spy, or played a more decisive role
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In weakening
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The iranian regime and destroying tehran's capacity
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To build thermonuclear warheads
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That could annihilate the united states and israel.
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Then yossi cohen. yossi cohen is a real life jewish james bond.
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From the age of 22, cohen was recruited into the mossad,
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Israel's legendary spy agency, and was sent on top secret,
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Deep cover and highly dangerous missions into enemy countries
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All over the world, certainly all over the middle east,
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Including repeatedly into iran.
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Yossi cohen actively stole iranian secrets
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While quietly, clandestinely persuading one iranian official
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After another to risk his or her life by betraying
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The regime in tehran and spying for the jewish state.
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Now, from 2013 to 2016,
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Yossi cohen served as israel's ninth national security advisor,
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Working side by side with prime minister
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Benjamin netanyahu to address, oppose and thwart
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The iranian nuclear weapons program and warn the world
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Not to let the world's most dangerous regime
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Build, buy or steal the world's most dangerous weapons.
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Then, from january 2016 to june 2021,
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Yossi cohen served as the head of mossad,
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Pulling off some of the most dangerous
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And dramatic operations
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In the entire history of the agency, including
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Including stealing iran's entire nuclear crown
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Jewels, literally stealing iran's actual physical plans
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To build nuclear bombs and warheads
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From the storage center deep inside the capital of tehran.
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The highly guarded storage center
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Where all these nuclear secrets were being held.
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Now, yossi cohen and i first met
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For coffee about a year ago for a long off the record.
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Get to know each other meeting.
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But now he's written a spellbinding new book.
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Okay. it's called the sword of freedom.
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It's a memoir of his life as an israeli spy.
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Like i said, a real life jewish james bond.
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I couldn't put the book down, and i highly recommend it
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That you buy it and read it or listen to it on audio.
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And this time, as i said, look, i'd really like to talk to you
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About this book.
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He agreed.
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Yossi cohen agreed to sit down for his first ever
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Exclusive interview on tbn with the rosenberg report
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And with all israel news.
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Now, among the many topics that we discussed,
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I asked yossi cohen how he assesses the massive
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And growing protests all across iran,
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What he calls a counter revolution.
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And he means that
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It's a counter revolution to the islamic revolution of 1979
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That brought down
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The shah of iran, who was a friend
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Of the united states and friend of israel,
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And put the boomers and the ayatollahs in control.
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And i asked cohen and whether he thinks
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It's going to be enough, these protests.
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Will they be enough to bring down the regime
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Of the so-called supreme leader of iran, ali khamenei?
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Again, there's another another round of demonstrators
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Flooding into the streets of tehran and yazd
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And this farhan and all over. i know that there are many,
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Many people on the streets.
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And we like what they do.
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And i think that
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The kind of revolution has to really come from within iran,
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Not only from not only by helping them
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Coming from the outskirts of overrun itself. so
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Do i believe that iranians alone could toppled this regime?
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I don't. okay.
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It is not that i decry what they do.
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It is not that i criticize.
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No, you're as strong against this regime as somebody.
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I think that they should do it.
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And yes, unfortunately, iran,
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Is conducting brutal fights against them.
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There are many casualties and more will come.
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Iran.
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The iranians, good citizens, will die for that.
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And they they have the right to do that.
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And we have to support them, of course.
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So if america is
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Considering
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Or helping the iranian regime or
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Countering the iranian regime, i'm absolutely sure of doing it.
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And i think that only with the help of the usa,
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It may be possible.
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Very interesting.
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And i agree with yossi cohen's assessment.
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But of course, bringing down
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This regime is only half the battle.
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The next question is this who might lead iran
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If and when the regime falls?
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If other radicals take over, then what's the point?
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Right.
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It could be worse than what we've just had.
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But we'd we would want
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The moderates to be able to seize control.
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We want pragmatists and and people
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Who like the united states and like israel to take over.
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And that's why i specifically asked yossi cohen
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About iran's exiled crown prince, reza pahlavi,
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The son of the late shah of iran,
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Whose support seems to be growing.
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Does yossi cohen believe that pahlavi,
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Reza pahlavi, has enough popular backing
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Across the iranian nation that if harmony's regime falls,
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Pahlavi could emerge as the country's next leader?
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You know, pahlavi left iran 50 years ago.
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And i
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Don't think that the iranians are expecting
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The family to be back and to run the country again.
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It's a different country.
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Generations have not lived, have not lived.
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I mean, under their supervision or advice.
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Right. so i think iran is different.
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If the regime will, i hope,
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Hopefully will be toppled down or it will be,
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Destroyed
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By iranians themselves or with the help of the usa and us.
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Let's see.
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I strongly believe that a young,
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Maybe secular,
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Leadership will raise will rise from from within.
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Okay.
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Now, i have to admit that yossi cohen's answer surprised me.
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It was clear that cohen does not think
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That reza pahlavi is likely to be iran's next leader.
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And look, that may be true.
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Yossi cohen may be right.
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He certainly has
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An extraordinary amount of experience
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With iran and inside iran and analyzing iran.
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But honestly, i'm not certain if he's right about this.
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And i want to tell you why. okay.
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As i watched the protests growing in size and intensity,
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It's reza pahlavi, his name that keeps being mentioned
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By protestors again
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And again in tehran and all over the country.
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I'm not hearing or seeing anyone else emerging
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As the leader of this counter revolution.
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There's no other name on the lips of the protestors
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That i'm hearing, other than exiled crown prince
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Reza pahlavi.
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The iranian people seem increasingly to believe.
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And with growing passion, i'd add that pahlavi
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Is the rightful and legitimate heir to the throne, as it were.
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Now, whether the next government would literally be a monarchy
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Or a democracy, i can't say.
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But i believe that iran's most likely next leader
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Not definitively, but most likely, is reza pahlavi.
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What's interesting is that in the spring of 2023, lynn
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And i actually had the great
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And unexpected honor of meeting the crown prince
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When he came here to israel for his historic,
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Dramatic first ever visit to the jewish state.
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Reza pahlavi attended
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The holocaust memorial day activities at yad vashem.
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He visited the western wall.
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He met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu
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And his wife sarah, and with other senior israeli
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Officials, including then israeli intelligence minister
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Gila gamliel,
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Who was in charge
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At the time of inviting and hosting reza pahlavi.
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By god's grace, i even had the opportunity to interview
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Pahlavi exclusively for the rosenberg report.
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It was, in fact, the only interview
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On any american television network that the crown prince
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Gave while he was here in israel.
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We met in a hotel suite in tel aviv, and i.
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I found him intriguing.
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I found him moderate, secular, certainly not
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A radical islamist, much less an apocalyptic islamist.
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Nothing like the current regime.
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I found reza pahlavi to be pro-democracy,
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Staunchly pro-american.
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He has, after all, lived for years in maryland
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With his family and closest advisers.
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I found reza pahlavi to be remarkably pro-israel.
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In fact, he told me directly on camera
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That he wants to negotiate and sign a landmark peace
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And normalization agreement with israel.
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Okay, but he doesn't want to join
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The abraham accords, per se.
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Rather, he wants to call this agreement the cyrus accords.
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Why? because the crown prince told me it was cyrus
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The great, the ancient ruler of the persian empire,
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Who is prophet lied about in the old testament
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And was written about extensively in the bible.
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It was cyrus the great who liberated the jewish people
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That had been taken into exile under the babylonians.
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And cyrus didn't just simply liberate the jews.
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He also sent the jewish people back here to israel.
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Back here to jerusalem to rebuild our country,
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Rebuild the walls of our capital jerusalem,
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And to rebuild the temple once again
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And to help the jewish people worship
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The god of israel in the city of our great king.
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And now crown prince reza pahlavi tells me
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He wants to see true and lasting peace
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Between the persians, between the iranian people and israel,
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The israeli people, just like under cyrus the great.
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And i believe him.
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Okay. that, you know you.
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I could be wrong.
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And you can challenge me on that.
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But i believe,
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I believe reza pahlavi
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When he says he wants to make peace,
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He wants to create these cyrus accords.
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And wouldn't that be amazing?
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Miraculous.
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Even if, after an historic iranian leader
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Once saved and liberated the people of israel
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In ancient times, what if two historic israeli
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And american leaders, bibi netanyahu and donald j.
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Trump helped save and liberate the iranian people in our time.
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That's what we should be praying for.
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That's what we should be working for.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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Why exactly this former mossad chief, yossi cohen,
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Believe the israeli and american military strikes on
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Iran's nuclear weapons sites and ballistic missile facilities
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Last summer changed the course of history.
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Why did they prevent a second holocaust?
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How did they set into motion this massive protest movement
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That just might bring about the end of iran's wicked regime?
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Find out.
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As i continue my exclusive interview
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With israel's jewish james bond on the rosenberg report
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Right here on tbn, right after this break.
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Right here on tbn, right after this break.
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Welcome back to the rosenberg report.
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Let's get right back
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To my exclusive interview with yossi cohen,
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The former head of the mossad, israel's legendary spy service.
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Now, in his new book,
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The sword of freedom,
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Which i absolutely loved and i absolutely commend,
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To your attention.
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Yossi cohen says
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The bombing of iran's nuclear weapons facilities,
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First by israel and then dramatically
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By president trump, would be two bombers,
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Using 30,000 pound bunker buster bombs in june of 2025.
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That this moment was one of the proudest moments of his life,
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Yossi cohen's life.
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He called it a culmination of a lifetime of efforts
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That he'd made as a spy
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Deep inside iran, stealing iranian nuclear secrets
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And other types of secrets,
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Turning iranian officials into assets,
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Espionage operatives for the state of israel,
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As eventually as a national security
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Advisor for israel and then as mossad chief,
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Ordering his forces to steal the entire
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Iranian nuclear weapons archives, assassinating top
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Iranian scientists including the notorious mohsen
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Fakhrizadeh, and so much more.
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Now, in light of all this,
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I asked him to talk about what it was like
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For him to watch that 12 day war between israel and iran
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And then, of course, between the united states and iran.
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In those last few days during that daring, american
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Bombing mission, to finish the job that israel had started.
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First i in simple words, i live the dream.
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And this is what i wanted,
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America and israel to do for many years i was very happy
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Because i thought, and i feel that justice has been made.
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Iran eventually lied all the way to the agreement.
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Iran practically is conducting a nuclear activity
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That will provide them with a clear path to the bomb.
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They have tried to do that for many years.
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We had stopped them by all means that we can.
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All right. i mean not to do that.
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All right.
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I mean, according to four reports
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And according to israeli reports and whatever it is,
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I mean, we were trying to do whatever we could to make sure
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That iran would never acquire nuclear capabilities.
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I also asked yoshi cohen if he really expected
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Last summer president trump to do what he did
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Because trump offered iran 60 days.
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As you'll remember, to negotiate with him last year.
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And i have to tell you,
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That made me nervous because i was worried.
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I wondered, would trump get hoodwinked by tehran?
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Now, true, trump had said that after 60 days,
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If tehran didn't conclude a serious deal,
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That he would allow israel to lead an attack against iran,
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And then that the u.s.
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Might actually bomb iran as well.
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I just didn't really
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Believe that trump meant it.
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I didn't believe that 60 days meant 60.
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I didn't think that that trump meant that on day 61,
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He was saying he was going to call prime minister benjamin
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Netanyahu and say, bibi, go do what you gotta do.
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I gave him 60 days.
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Now bomb the daylights out of him.
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I didn't believe that would happen.
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So i asked yossi cohen, did you believe president trump
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In a very important press conference
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That he had at the white house, together
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With the prime minister, netanyahu, he said three things.
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Okay, now i believe this president.
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All right.
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I mean, when he says something, i mean to concede.
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But make sure again, he promises that he makes it right.
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And he said three things.
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I give you 160 days to negotiate and
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After 60 days, if they would
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Not negotiate, if you cannot get to an agreement, israel,
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We will attack iran.
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Israel would lead the attack.
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And this is exactly what has happened.
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I didn't believe it.
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I did i but but you knew him and i visited him several times.
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But i. i got nervous by those 60 days.
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I did not think he meant.
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On day 61, i'm going to call and say
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Maybe go do what you gotta do, right?
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And i did, and i certainly didn't expect him to.
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Yeah.
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With all the trouble this this is this, i know this,
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I know him and i appreciate him highly.
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I. absolutely
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Believe to the declaration that he gives in public.
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By the way, he kept them all so far.
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Right. internationally, he kept them all.
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And then i think this is a president that we listen to.
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And i cherish, i appreciate and i
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Thank you all americans and many for for doing all that.
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I mean, making this happening inside iran is a dream.
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I mean, iran could not acquire nuclear weapons.
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And america
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Just together with israel together, the mossad forces
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Have just confirmed that the sites have been obliterated.
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I accept it.
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And more than that,
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What's happening right now is that they say.
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And if you will continue
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And you were planning
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To continue,
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And this is a very important message, we can come again.
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All right.
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Something that was never planned right.
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So not in israel, by the way.
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Not enough in israel to look into your site?
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No, not to say. oh, okay.
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You don't have our defense system.
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We took away your russian air defense system, s-300.
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We took away your essay, whatever all this like or
00:24:55.618 --> 00:24:58.888
Air defense systems against aircraft.
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I mean, we make you blind.
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I mean, you don't have these commanders that you had.
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You took your commanders from their homes and beds, right?
00:25:05.061 --> 00:25:08.297
Right. i mean, that was amazing.
00:25:08.297 --> 00:25:09.765
Within pure intelligence, beautiful work.
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And you know what?
00:25:13.169 --> 00:25:14.303
If you will continue, we can come again and again
00:25:14.303 --> 00:25:18.074
Last night or two days ago, president trump again, in truth,
00:25:18.074 --> 00:25:22.478
I think he said, iran, if you're going to chase
00:25:22.478 --> 00:25:25.781
And kill your demonstrators, we're going to come
00:25:25.781 --> 00:25:29.719
And help them.
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Listen to this president carefully, okay?
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And i can guess, because last time i offered him
00:25:33.756 --> 00:25:37.193
In public, i said, they give an interview on the 22nd of june
00:25:37.193 --> 00:25:40.363
During the attack.
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All right.
00:25:42.398 --> 00:25:43.099
To channel 12 here in israel.
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And i said, please continue.
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Take them down, take the regime down.
00:25:46.268 --> 00:25:49.372
And i can guess that maybe there's
00:25:49.372 --> 00:25:52.775
Another window of opportunity to take the regime, though,
00:25:52.775 --> 00:25:55.344
And i hope it will happen.
00:25:55.344 --> 00:25:56.512
Now, make no mistake,
00:25:56.512 --> 00:25:59.015
The collapse of the wicked, genocidal, apocalyptic regime
00:25:59.015 --> 00:26:02.985
In iran represents the most important
00:26:02.985 --> 00:26:06.756
And consequential moment of the 21st century.
00:26:06.756 --> 00:26:10.192
Okay, it's a day that millions of iranians and israelis
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And americans
00:26:14.263 --> 00:26:15.331
And others have worked for, fought for, pushed for,
00:26:15.331 --> 00:26:19.001
And one that tens of millions of christians have prayed for.
00:26:19.001 --> 00:26:23.673
Now we're in a very early stage
00:26:23.673 --> 00:26:26.142
Of one of the most dangerous tectonic
00:26:26.142 --> 00:26:29.445
And transformational moments in world history.
00:26:29.445 --> 00:26:33.549
And it may also prove to be prophetic, but
00:26:33.549 --> 00:26:37.153
It's only just the beginning.
00:26:37.153 --> 00:26:38.387
We're only in the early stages,
00:26:38.387 --> 00:26:40.222
And there will be many difficult and highly complex days ahead.
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So i want you to keep watching, keep praying,
00:26:45.394 --> 00:26:48.364
And don't for one moment give up.
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And that's our show for tonight.
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Thank you so much for watching.
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Very soon i'll share with you more of my exclusive
00:26:55.271 --> 00:26:58.074
And fascinating interview
00:26:58.074 --> 00:26:59.408
With yossi cohen the jewish james bond.
00:26:59.408 --> 00:27:02.044
But that's all the time we have for right now.
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Have a great week as you walk with the lord jesus christ
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In the power of the holy spirit.
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Spending time in the word, in prayer, in worship,
00:27:09.785 --> 00:27:13.022
And in fellowship with other believers.
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May god bless you as you love your neighbor.
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Care for the poor and needy for widows and orphans
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As you share your faith in jesus christ
00:27:21.063 --> 00:27:23.766
With those who don't in that, don't yet know him.
00:27:23.766 --> 00:27:26.535
Make disciples of all nations and keep praying faithfully
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For the peace of jerusalem,
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For israel and her neighbors in the name of jesus.
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Have a wonderful week with your family
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And friends, and lord willing.
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I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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Joel Rosenberg: What’s Next for Iran? | The Rosenberg Report

January 15, 2026 | 29:28

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