On The Rosenberg Report, host Joel Rosenberg speaks with Israeli President Isaac Herzog about Israel's decision to strike Iran, the miraculous rebirth of Israel, and securing the Jewish State's future. What is President Herzog's message to Saudi Arabia to Iran?
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The Rosenberg Report | Joel Rosenberg: What’s Next for Israel? | The Rosenberg Report | June 26, 2025
- Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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- For the first time on tbn, a candid and deeply
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- Personal interview with israeli president isaac herzog.
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- Does he believe
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- God has done miracles to protect israelis
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- During the missile war with iran?
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- What about bible prophecy?
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- Does he believe the rebirth of israel in 1948
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- Was the fulfillment of ezekiel 37?
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- What's his message to president trump after he ordered
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- B-2 bombers to attack iran's nuclear sites,
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- Shocking the world
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- And causing iranian leaders to beg for cease fire?
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- Does he believe the saudis
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- Will make peace with israel
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- When the war in gaza is finally over?
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- And what's his message
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- To the iranian people after the 12 day war?
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- The 11th president of israel speaks directly
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- About war, peace and bible prophecy.
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- Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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- It's been the biggest week in u.s.
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- Israeli history in the history of the relationship.
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- There's never been a week as big as this.
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- Sure, it was another big moment within the first trump term,
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- When president trump declared
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- A jerusalem
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- To be the official sovereign capital of the state of israel,
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- Something that no other country had ever done.
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- And moved the u.s.
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- Embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem.
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- And i would say this is much, much bigger.
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- A week ago, president trump made the decision
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- To send b-2 bombers into iran to bomb,
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- To attack, to destroy iran's nuclear sites.
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- And this has been a game changer.
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- Trump shocked the world.
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- He certainly shocked the leaders of iran.
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- And tonight, the rosenberg report
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- Has an exclusive interview with the president of israel
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- Walking us through what happened and where we go from here.
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- We take you now to the presidential residence
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- Here in jerusalem.
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- My interview with president herzog.
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- President herzog, thank you so much for coming on tbn
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- And coming on the rosenberg report.
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- Of all the times
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- You and i could sit down for our first interview,
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- I can't think of a better moment than the most historic moment
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- In the middle east in a long time, and certainly in the u.s.
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- Israel relationship.
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- So thanks very much for sharing your excellent book.
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- Well that's right. it almost feels like fiction.
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- I did write a fiction book called the tehran initiative,
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- Right
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- By the israeli prime minister
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- Doing a preemptive attack on iran,
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- But i haven't read it in a while.
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- That's like 12 years ago. so i gotta tell you.
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- My sense is simply your book is revisited.
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- Maybe. maybe.
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- Look, let's start with the big moment here.
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- We, you and prime minister netanyahu
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- Have not always agreed, but you've been very strongly
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- Supporting on media all over the world.
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- His decision to launch a preemptive, massive
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- Preemptive strike on iran.
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- Give the case to the american christian audience.
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- Why was this? why is this moment?
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- Why was that night different from all other nights?
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- First of all, to explain to viewers, i'm the head of state.
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- I'm not the head of the executive branch.
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- It's somewhat like the european model
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- And for constitutional structure.
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- Some i'm above politics, but i have huge impact
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- On the daily occurrences in israel.
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- And i absolutely adamantly support prime minister netanyahu
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- And the israeli cabinet's decision to strike on iran
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- Because this nuclear program was rushing to the bomb.
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- The iranian program with a clear, imminent
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- Danger to the state of israel,
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- And, by the way, to the entire free world.
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- So president trump's attack on the iranian
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- Nuclear installations is a very historic, heroic, bold
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- And right decision of huge historical magnitude.
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- And i absolutely commend him on that as well.
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- And the immense cooperation
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- Between him and prime minister netanyahu.
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- It is pretty, pretty extraordinary.
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- And yet there's been a lot of criticism of the two of them,
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- There's a lot of criticism coming out of the united states,
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- Even from some of the people in the
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- In the trump orbit, but also from european,
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- Leaders who, you know, oh, this is going to destabilize
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- The region. what's going on?
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- I don't shy away from the inner voices
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- And other voices in american democracy, all in europe.
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- It's legit.
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- People can raise their voices.
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- But what i want to tell
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- People is look at the historical lessons
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- There are moments in history where you try to make peace
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- But forget to get there.
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- You have to fight for it.
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- In order to fight for it.
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- You have to eradicate risks that are intolerable.
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- If you take the cocktail of the most dangerous weapon
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- On earth, which can destroy unit,
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- You humanity, the nuclear weapon.
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- For 80 years, world has recognized this
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- As the most lethal, dangerous weapon of all.
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- And you combine it with the most dangerous, lethal ideology
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- That you have, this ideology.
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- This is the most dangerous thing
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- That can happen to the free world.
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- Obviously, if tens of millions of iranians
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- Are brought up to understand that israel is the small satan
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- And the united states is the big satan,
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- And that you need to attack americans,
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- Then israelis, or, by the way, take aim to attack
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- Christians and others who are all infidels.
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- Then you have to take into consideration
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- That you can be attacked, really attacked,
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- And you can be attacked by nuclear weapons.
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- So for that,
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- What israel did is a life savior for the free world and serves
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- The national security interests of other nations,
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- Predominantly the united states of america.
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- And that is why
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- President trump's decision serves the national security
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- Interests of the united states of america.
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- I amen. i agree with that. and,
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- I'm curious.
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- I want to talk about
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- Some of the bigger implications, how it may change the region,
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- Where we're going with the possible saudi israeli deal.
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- But first,
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- There's been a cost, certainly to israel.
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- Lynn and i,
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- My wife and i were just in bat yam
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- A couple of days thursday morning,
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- Just after the second attack there.
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- And today declared yvette shmilovitch the new another
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- That person, 95 year old holocaust survivor.
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- Okay. from that area. yeah.
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- They keep on unraveling more and more bodies unfortunately.
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- Well, the bat yam hit was devastating
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- That was it was the missile.
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- And by the way. it's one you went down.
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- It's hundreds of kilograms of explosives,
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- Demolishes a whole neighborhood. yeah.
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- You have hundreds and like 100 buildings,
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- Hurt immediately.
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- They shoot at civilians all the time from anywhere.
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- And hospitals and old age homes that were hurt.
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- We saw even center for kids with special needs
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- We were in a class where all the kids
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- Have to be under with respirators to learn.
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- The whole class is demolished.
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- Okay.
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- That's what these guys do.
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- And we, we at target, of course,
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- Only the military capabilities and their nuclear capabilities.
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- But that will not deter us.
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- The israeli nation is enormously resilient
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- And understands this is another chapter
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- In our historic homecoming and make a make.
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- And i create a real fact in the minds of all our enemies
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- That we're here to stay forever.
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- And the only way to move on
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- With us is by peace and accommodation.
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- Preach it. yeah.
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- Soroka medical center, the main hospital in be'er sheva,
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- Our biggest city in the south, serving a million jews and
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- Muslims... serving 2 million visitations
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- A year. it was a 2 million. okay.
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- Wow. wow.
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- It's a million patients, 2 million visitations.
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- Jews, christians and muslims, bedouins and palestinians.
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- Many palestinians from the palestinian authority.
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- That could have that was horrible direct hit,
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- But it could have been so deadly.
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- It to me, it strikes me as a miracle that the
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- Some of the leadership there said, you know what?
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- We should move these people.
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- Before you know what the.
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- Tell us the story.
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- The night before professor shlomi called,
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- This was the head of the medical center.
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- And by the way,
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- An incredible medical center, one of the best in the world.
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- He decided.
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- Sons had to go there when he was,
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- Very badly injured in the in the military.
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- And that's where he that's where they took him.
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- So it's a very distinguished place.
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- And, you know, i went underground
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- And, you know, the hospitals are still fully
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- Functioning underground.
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- The buildings demolished underground.
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- And the head of the department is a wonderful professor.
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- He's a muslim. and they're all together.
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- That's the greatness of israel.
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- People live together.
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- We pray to the same god, perhaps from different religions, but
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- We also have the same almighty and that's the beauty.
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- We offer a different alternative to believe in him.
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- Judaism. judaism believes in death.
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- Okay, that's like the noble thing to do.
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- And we believe in life. that's what the noble thing to do.
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- Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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- As world events seem to spin out of control,
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- Does isaac herzog, the center left
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- President of israel, believe we are living in prophetic times?
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- He's not exactly a religious jew,
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- But does he believe the rebirth of israel in 1948
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- Was april fulfillment of ezekiel 37,
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- And what his view of evangelical christians
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- Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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- Right after the break.
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- Right after the break.
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- Is it fair to say that
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- Iran's regime, wicked and evil, that it is,
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- Has unified israel
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- In a way that we were so divided before october 7th and this.
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- We are divided because we are a democracy
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- And the views are different on all issues.
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- You can imagine under the sun,
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- Same like the united states of america.
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- Let's, let's, let's understand that,
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- But the enemy always unites us
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- Because we don't intend to live to lose what we've got here.
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- We built an amazing nation from us, from sand, from desert.
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- We made it bloom.
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- And we realized the prophecies of the prophet.
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- And that's what it is.
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- You know, when you read the prophecy of isaiah, are kids
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- Playing in the streets and old people just sitting, watching?
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- It's exactly what you see in all of us.
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- In israel, people try to live normal life
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- And they've gone through a hell.
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- They've gone from holocaust until they've gone
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- Into migration from all corners of the earth and the walls.
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- And what's not told the land from
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- Nothing with their own sweat and built an amazing nation.
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- And we don't intend to give that up.
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- On the contrary, we do so much good in the world.
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- We will continue and thrive.
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- Amen.
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- It's interesting you bring up the prophets.
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- First of all, we're in this beautiful reception hall.
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- Yeah, it's the grand hall of the presidential hall.
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- And you've got beautiful mosaics of jacob, of course, wrestling
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- With god here, where we get israel, he wrestles with god.
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- You've got, you've got david and david in the psalms.
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- Absolutely.
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- And elijah's going up to the skies.
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- Alija. yeah. the chariots of fire.
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- It's interesting because we don't think of,
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- I mean, obviously the jewish state is built
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- On the jewish faith and the jewish scriptures.
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- But so often, faith or even the bible
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- Is, has been historically left out of speeches
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- And public rhetoric here.
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- So i would say that,
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- It's not exactly true, you know, david, because i
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- I would just say
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- That i watched,
- 00:12:01.780 --> 00:12:03.749
- Then-vice president mike pence give a speech at the knesset.
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- And i think he he quoted more scripture from most.
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- Depends on the circumstances.
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- But all in all, i would say
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- That, you know, being and and, alter ego, the bible
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- Resonates all the time and saw the other sources of judaism.
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- David ben-gurion,
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- You know, our first prime minister, the one who declared
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- Independence, our founding father.
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- He was a freak of the bible. yeah.
- 00:12:31.210 --> 00:12:34.413
- He had a groups convening all the time to discuss
- 00:12:34.413 --> 00:12:38.584
- Questions on the bible that he threw up in the air.
- 00:12:38.584 --> 00:12:41.753
- I actually have a book of his notes and comments. yes.
- 00:12:41.753 --> 00:12:45.057
- And also no comments were amazing
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- And many people followed suit.
- 00:12:47.459 --> 00:12:49.161
- And also this nation is is is more traditional, more faithful.
- 00:12:49.161 --> 00:12:53.966
- A nation of faith is deep.
- 00:12:54.533 --> 00:12:56.001
- We can be secular, but with faith,
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- And we can be liberal, but with faith.
- 00:12:58.770 --> 00:13:00.806
- And the issue of our
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- Of the fountain of the bible comes alive all the time.
- 00:13:02.074 --> 00:13:05.811
- I use it in my speeches, all you do.
- 00:13:05.811 --> 00:13:08.013
- And i actually, want to quote you to you,
- 00:13:08.013 --> 00:13:11.250
- Lynn and i had the great honor
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- Of attending a holocaust day memorial service at yad vashem.
- 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.056
- We've done it many years,
- 00:13:18.056 --> 00:13:19.725
- And brought other evangelicals with us.
- 00:13:19.725 --> 00:13:21.426
- But, this particular year was april 2022,
- 00:13:21.426 --> 00:13:25.831
- And i think it might be
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- My first time that i heard you give a speech in person.
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- And obviously you were speaking about the holocaust.
- 00:13:31.003 --> 00:13:33.438
- You come from holocaust survivors yourself.
- 00:13:33.438 --> 00:13:36.041
- I think it was your father,
- 00:13:36.041 --> 00:13:37.876
- Chaim herzog, the president, who was rescued.
- 00:13:37.876 --> 00:13:40.112
- I know.
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- My father.
- 00:13:40.579 --> 00:13:41.446
- No, my father was a british officer.
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- Okay, okay.
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- Who liberated europe and one of the first liberators
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- Of the bergen-belsen concentration camp.
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- And he had all, of course, of,
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- People who perished in the holocaust and his family.
- 00:13:52.090 --> 00:13:54.326
- Amazing. so.
- 00:13:54.326 --> 00:13:56.094
- So this was an interesting quote.
- 00:13:56.094 --> 00:13:57.429
- You said the story of the jewish
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- And then you quoted specifically from ezekiel 37,
- 00:14:16.748 --> 00:14:19.618
- As the bible says, thus says the lord god,
- 00:14:19.618 --> 00:14:37.569
- But it's you believe that the rebirth
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- Of the state of israel in 48, was prophetic.
- 00:14:39.972 --> 00:14:42.708
- It was part of my promise.
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- I absolutely believe in it.
- 00:14:43.742 --> 00:14:45.510
- I come from a family of
- 00:14:45.510 --> 00:14:47.379
- That beliefs, and that my grandfather
- 00:14:47.379 --> 00:14:49.247
- Was the first chief rabbi of israel.
- 00:14:49.247 --> 00:14:51.683
- And two comments i want to make one.
- 00:14:51.683 --> 00:14:54.653
- When david ben-gurion moved our capital to jerusalem,
- 00:14:54.653 --> 00:14:59.691
- My grandfather sent him a bible quoting and saying,
- 00:14:59.691 --> 00:15:03.195
- This is another step, you know, in the rebirth of israel.
- 00:15:03.195 --> 00:15:07.132
- And actually ben-gurion sent him a letter saying, really?
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- You know, that the prophecies say that the
- 00:15:09.935 --> 00:15:12.437
- The redemption would come chapter by chapter.
- 00:15:13.305 --> 00:15:16.174
- Wow. but what's interesting, one of my,
- 00:15:16.174 --> 00:15:19.711
- That which i find always
- 00:15:19.711 --> 00:15:22.414
- Striking in this respect is that we
- 00:15:22.414 --> 00:15:26.084
- You know, when i spoke, then amy advised him,
- 00:15:26.084 --> 00:15:30.255
- I spoke about a terrible,
- 00:15:30.822 --> 00:15:34.593
- Massacre of jews in ukraine.
- 00:15:35.193 --> 00:15:37.863
- And it was just two months
- 00:15:37.863 --> 00:15:39.064
- After the war in ukraine
- 00:15:39.064 --> 00:15:40.632
- Started, and there was a
- 00:15:40.632 --> 00:15:41.900
- Massacre of jews by there was a picture of a family,
- 00:15:41.900 --> 00:15:45.804
- A mother and a child being shot at by a german squad.
- 00:15:45.804 --> 00:15:50.042
- And i, you know, and it resonated with me.
- 00:15:50.042 --> 00:15:53.311
- And little did i imagine that a year and a half later,
- 00:15:53.311 --> 00:15:57.849
- You know, thousands of tell was from gaza
- 00:15:57.849 --> 00:16:00.419
- Would break in and do the same to innocent israelis
- 00:16:00.419 --> 00:16:04.322
- Who some of them are still hostage in gaza,
- 00:16:04.322 --> 00:16:07.025
- Meaning these atrocities go from generation to generation.
- 00:16:07.025 --> 00:16:10.962
- But we will not give up under any, any circumstances.
- 00:16:10.962 --> 00:16:15.467
- And i think this is all my message.
- 00:16:15.467 --> 00:16:17.769
- It's a chapter, another chapter in a home
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- On the home coming of our nation back home.
- 00:16:20.839 --> 00:16:24.009
- I'm really glad that you
- 00:16:24.009 --> 00:16:26.211
- Brought the attention back to the hostages.
- 00:16:26.211 --> 00:16:29.247
- Obviously you did.
- 00:16:29.247 --> 00:16:30.182
- This is something very much on your heart.
- 00:16:30.182 --> 00:16:32.484
- Today, earlier today, i actually interviewed keith siegel.
- 00:16:32.484 --> 00:16:36.288
- The israeli hostage.
- 00:16:36.755 --> 00:16:39.057
- And i had met aviva in washington last december,
- 00:16:39.057 --> 00:16:42.694
- Interviewed her for our podcast,
- 00:16:42.694 --> 00:16:45.063
- Then interviewed her on the rosenberg report.
- 00:16:45.063 --> 00:16:47.232
- And and, you know, she's,
- 00:16:47.232 --> 00:16:49.101
- You know, she's not a woman of faith herself.
- 00:16:49.101 --> 00:16:51.536
- But she said, i would appreciate the prayers
- 00:16:51.536 --> 00:16:53.538
- Of as many evangelicals
- 00:16:53.538 --> 00:16:54.773
- That will pray for my husband and all the hostages to be out.
- 00:16:54.773 --> 00:16:57.409
- So it actually talked to keith.
- 00:16:57.409 --> 00:17:00.212
- Today was so moving.
- 00:17:00.212 --> 00:17:02.481
- He lost a third of his weight.
- 00:17:02.481 --> 00:17:04.983
- So what's your message?
- 00:17:05.484 --> 00:17:07.185
- What can evangelical christians do?
- 00:17:07.185 --> 00:17:08.787
- What how what can others in the world do to make sure
- 00:17:08.787 --> 00:17:12.290
- That not only are we winning against the iranian threat,
- 00:17:12.290 --> 00:17:15.393
- We've got to win in gaza. we've got to get first of.
- 00:17:15.393 --> 00:17:17.462
- All, i it's an opportunity to commend president trump
- 00:17:17.462 --> 00:17:20.699
- Because he's
- 00:17:21.032 --> 00:17:22.234
- Getting a lot of his support from the evangelism community,
- 00:17:22.234 --> 00:17:25.270
- Which understands the moral clarity of this activity,
- 00:17:25.270 --> 00:17:28.406
- This action.
- 00:17:28.406 --> 00:17:29.441
- I'll tell you a story.
- 00:17:29.441 --> 00:17:30.842
- When my late grandfather, rabbi hertzog, came to see
- 00:17:30.842 --> 00:17:34.779
- President truman in the oval office,
- 00:17:34.779 --> 00:17:38.383
- You know, there are records that are known at the truman
- 00:17:38.383 --> 00:17:41.753
- Library, where and truman
- 00:17:41.753 --> 00:17:44.623
- Is known to have cried only three times in his life
- 00:17:44.623 --> 00:17:48.026
- When his, mother passed away, when one of her very
- 00:17:48.026 --> 00:17:51.263
- Close friend
- 00:17:51.263 --> 00:17:52.297
- And when rabbi hertzog came to him in the oval
- 00:17:52.297 --> 00:17:55.000
- Office, gave him the torah, the bible, and said to him,
- 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:58.470
- God, please
- 00:17:58.803 --> 00:17:59.671
- Join your mother's womb to defend
- 00:17:59.671 --> 00:18:01.606
- And protect the jewish people and the state of israel.
- 00:18:01.606 --> 00:18:04.543
- And it's recorded in david mccullough's biography
- 00:18:04.543 --> 00:18:07.512
- Of harry truman that truman had tears rolling out.
- 00:18:07.512 --> 00:18:11.449
- And i think god placed,
- 00:18:11.950 --> 00:18:15.754
- President trump in his mother's womb
- 00:18:15.754 --> 00:18:18.123
- To change the world, to lead a better future
- 00:18:18.123 --> 00:18:21.193
- For the region, to defend israel and defend americans
- 00:18:21.193 --> 00:18:24.496
- National security interests, and to make sure
- 00:18:24.496 --> 00:18:27.332
- That evil forces are removed and pushed away.
- 00:18:27.332 --> 00:18:30.602
- And this is the great historical moment that we all live in.
- 00:18:30.602 --> 00:18:33.872
- And i think that people,
- 00:18:33.872 --> 00:18:35.974
- You know,
- 00:18:35.974 --> 00:18:36.641
- In the grassroots level,
- 00:18:36.641 --> 00:18:38.009
- People who believe, people who have an opinion in america
- 00:18:38.009 --> 00:18:41.313
- Definitely should see this in this way.
- 00:18:41.313 --> 00:18:44.916
- I appreciate that story, because i remember reading
- 00:18:45.951 --> 00:18:48.954
- A book by one of truman's close advisers, clark clifford.
- 00:18:48.954 --> 00:18:53.425
- He begins the whole book. it's like 500 pages.
- 00:18:53.425 --> 00:18:55.894
- He begins in the oval office, and there was nearly a fistfight
- 00:18:55.894 --> 00:18:59.164
- Between him and the secretary of state,
- 00:18:59.164 --> 00:19:01.833
- Because truman asked
- 00:19:01.833 --> 00:19:03.301
- The two of them to make the case for recognizing
- 00:19:03.301 --> 00:19:06.471
- The new state of israel, which was coming or against it,
- 00:19:06.471 --> 00:19:08.940
- And the secretary of state was against it.
- 00:19:08.940 --> 00:19:10.742
- Most of the cabinet was against it,
- 00:19:10.742 --> 00:19:12.377
- Most of the military was against it.
- 00:19:12.377 --> 00:19:14.279
- And clark clifford was for it and made the case.
- 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:17.716
- And the two it was so heated,
- 00:19:17.716 --> 00:19:19.884
- The secretary of state almost tackled clifford.
- 00:19:19.884 --> 00:19:22.654
- This is...
- 00:19:22.954 --> 00:19:24.189
- By the way, truman was so bold.
- 00:19:24.189 --> 00:19:26.725
- 11 minutes after
- 00:19:26.725 --> 00:19:28.026
- The declaration of independence by david ben-gurion,
- 00:19:28.026 --> 00:19:31.296
- Truman recognized israel
- 00:19:31.296 --> 00:19:32.964
- And president joe biden when he visited me here.
- 00:19:32.964 --> 00:19:36.368
- And i honored him here.
- 00:19:36.868 --> 00:19:38.270
- And he gave me a beautiful, facsimile of that resolution
- 00:19:38.270 --> 00:19:43.708
- Declaration by harry truman, signed by harry truman,
- 00:19:43.708 --> 00:19:47.178
- Recognizing that they didn't even know the name of israel.
- 00:19:47.178 --> 00:19:50.215
- Right. which is about the jewish state.
- 00:19:50.215 --> 00:19:52.317
- And then the eagle corrected and in pencil and pen,
- 00:19:52.317 --> 00:19:56.054
- The state of israel. how interesting.
- 00:19:56.054 --> 00:19:57.756
- So i think that it shows that
- 00:19:57.756 --> 00:20:00.892
- Big moments in history are not inevitable.
- 00:20:00.892 --> 00:20:03.662
- And in other words, that president truman,
- 00:20:03.662 --> 00:20:06.031
- He really talks about, he didn't talk about so much,
- 00:20:06.031 --> 00:20:07.899
- But his advisor, how his, his, deep,
- 00:20:07.899 --> 00:20:10.935
- Christianity, faith in christianity
- 00:20:11.736 --> 00:20:14.406
- And his love for the bible had given him to his mother
- 00:20:14.406 --> 00:20:17.642
- A great love for the jewish people
- 00:20:17.642 --> 00:20:19.144
- And an understanding that the jews needed
- 00:20:19.144 --> 00:20:21.413
- To get back home to be safe.
- 00:20:21.413 --> 00:20:23.581
- And the same thing that
- 00:20:23.581 --> 00:20:25.350
- The level of opposition, though, to make these big decisions.
- 00:20:25.350 --> 00:20:28.320
- There's so much opposition.
- 00:20:28.320 --> 00:20:31.056
- Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
- 00:20:31.056 --> 00:20:33.325
- After 22 months of a bitter and brutal war
- 00:20:33.325 --> 00:20:36.261
- Where israel was attacked from all sides, what is israel?
- 00:20:36.261 --> 00:20:39.998
- President isaac herzog's message to saudi crown prince mohammed
- 00:20:39.998 --> 00:20:44.102
- Bin salman.
- 00:20:44.102 --> 00:20:45.303
- Is he more optimistic, or less, that israel and the saudis
- 00:20:45.303 --> 00:20:48.540
- Can make peace than he was before october 7th?
- 00:20:48.540 --> 00:20:51.810
- And what's his message to the iranian people?
- 00:20:51.810 --> 00:20:54.179
- As the ceasefire begins
- 00:20:54.179 --> 00:20:55.680
- And president trump calls for a regime change in tehran,
- 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:58.983
- Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
- 00:20:58.983 --> 00:21:02.554
- Right after the break.
- 00:21:02.554 --> 00:21:05.009
- Right after the break.
- 00:21:05.009 --> 00:21:10.169
- Well, i again, i say
- 00:21:10.636 --> 00:21:12.171
- I understand american democracy and understand the debate.
- 00:21:12.171 --> 00:21:15.208
- Nobody wants war.
- 00:21:15.641 --> 00:21:16.776
- We didn't seek this war.
- 00:21:16.776 --> 00:21:18.778
- This war was imposed upon us by the worst
- 00:21:18.778 --> 00:21:21.914
- Type of gangs of terror that one can imagine
- 00:21:21.914 --> 00:21:24.617
- Coming in this world.
- 00:21:24.617 --> 00:21:27.787
- That's all there is to it.
- 00:21:27.787 --> 00:21:28.855
- It's all very obvious.
- 00:21:28.855 --> 00:21:30.022
- They came in raping, burning, chopping hair, abducting
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- And killing the thousands and thousands of israelis.
- 00:21:34.293 --> 00:21:38.064
- That's all they wanted to.
- 00:21:38.064 --> 00:21:39.499
- That's all there is to it.
- 00:21:39.499 --> 00:21:40.666
- From that on, you see a huge process whereby we fought.
- 00:21:40.666 --> 00:21:44.470
- We arose like a lion. we fighting.
- 00:21:44.470 --> 00:21:46.906
- We lost a lot of sons and daughters.
- 00:21:46.906 --> 00:21:48.875
- We paid a huge price.
- 00:21:48.875 --> 00:21:50.476
- My wife and i visited well over 1200 bereaved families.
- 00:21:50.476 --> 00:21:54.614
- It's unbelievable. and yet.
- 00:21:54.614 --> 00:21:57.717
- And yet we eradicated some of our enemies.
- 00:21:57.717 --> 00:22:01.220
- Look what happened to hezbollah.
- 00:22:01.220 --> 00:22:02.622
- Look what happened in lebanon. in syria. it's miraculous.
- 00:22:02.622 --> 00:22:04.991
- We're eating the hotels,
- 00:22:04.991 --> 00:22:06.626
- And now we're hitting the iranians
- 00:22:06.626 --> 00:22:08.694
- Because they're the head of the stake.
- 00:22:08.694 --> 00:22:10.663
- They're the head of the empire of evil.
- 00:22:10.663 --> 00:22:12.698
- They spread these proxies, by the way, all over the world.
- 00:22:12.698 --> 00:22:15.768
- Tell ourselves all over the world,
- 00:22:15.768 --> 00:22:17.870
- They spend billions and billions of dollars
- 00:22:17.870 --> 00:22:20.173
- Just to create havoc, tell all, and radicalize
- 00:22:20.173 --> 00:22:23.609
- The world and hate that the modern free world.
- 00:22:23.609 --> 00:22:26.879
- That's why we have to stand up to them once and for all.
- 00:22:26.879 --> 00:22:29.749
- And that's what president trump's decision does.
- 00:22:29.749 --> 00:22:32.318
- All right.
- 00:22:32.318 --> 00:22:33.319
- Last question we got we're almost out of time.
- 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:35.188
- What's your message to the saudi leadership
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- And what's your message to the people of iran? why?
- 00:22:38.090 --> 00:22:40.159
- So i believe the that the great victory
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- And the great next chapter should be normalization
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- Between israel and the arab states around us.
- 00:22:47.900 --> 00:22:50.770
- More and more,
- 00:22:50.770 --> 00:22:51.871
- We have the peace agreement with egypt and jordan.
- 00:22:51.871 --> 00:22:54.373
- Then the, abraham accords with the united arab
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- Emirates, bahrain, morocco and further movement.
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- The next grand vision should be normalization
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- With saudi arabia.
- 00:23:05.084 --> 00:23:06.619
- I truly believe that the sons of abraham
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- And abraham, you know, and isaac and ishmael, they should
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- All get together and dwell in this land peacefully.
- 00:23:13.493 --> 00:23:18.030
- And i think jordan, muslim and christian,
- 00:23:18.030 --> 00:23:19.999
- Of course, all need to live in this land peacefully.
- 00:23:19.999 --> 00:23:23.069
- That's what the grand vision is.
- 00:23:23.069 --> 00:23:24.837
- And it's a beautiful vision and can be realized
- 00:23:24.837 --> 00:23:28.074
- If we work properly and correctly and boldly and can
- 00:23:28.074 --> 00:23:31.611
- That can transform, by the way, huge things in the world.
- 00:23:31.611 --> 00:23:35.114
- If you connect israel to india, then for the saudi arabia,
- 00:23:35.114 --> 00:23:39.886
- You connect europe to southeast asia
- 00:23:39.886 --> 00:23:42.321
- And the united states to australia.
- 00:23:42.321 --> 00:23:43.956
- This is a huge vision that's where she is.
- 00:23:43.956 --> 00:23:46.359
- And your message to iran, the people of iran.
- 00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:47.994
- I tell the people of iran, i just said it
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- Also in an interview on iran international.
- 00:23:49.996 --> 00:23:52.665
- We don't have any war with the people of iran.
- 00:23:52.665 --> 00:23:54.867
- We have a huge respect now.
- 00:23:54.867 --> 00:23:56.602
- Wise people, brilliant people.
- 00:23:56.602 --> 00:23:58.104
- It's a great historic nation.
- 00:23:58.104 --> 00:24:00.273
- They've been taken over by a
- 00:24:00.273 --> 00:24:02.942
- A very extreme ideology, a very oppressive regime.
- 00:24:02.942 --> 00:24:07.079
- And i do hope that they will realize the opportunity
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- And bring change by themselves for themselves.
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- President herzog, thank you for being on the road.
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- Thank you very much for hosting me. and praying for you.
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- And we're very grateful for, your leadership and, your heart,
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- Not only for jews, but for christians
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- And for muslims and for everybody in this.
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- Thank you.
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- And i hope to see all of your viewers in israel
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- Visiting the holy land again soon.
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- I would love that. thank you. thank you.
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- What a fascinating interview
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- With israeli president isaac herzog.
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- I'm so glad that he made the time,
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- To come on tbn, to come on the rosenberg report and
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- And share with us his take on how he sees
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- How president trump has changed the game here in iran,
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- Here in israel, here in the region,
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- And where we may be going from here.
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- Please pray for president herzog and his family and his team.
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- Please pray for the nation of israel.
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- Please pray we get all of our hostages out.
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- This war isn't over yet, so let's be clear.
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- We still have to win in gaza.
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- We still have to get all
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- Our hostages out.
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- So please keep praying. don't stop.
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- And of course, a lot of israelis
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- Have been devastated by these missile attacks.
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- And so please pray for a healing and recovery.
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- And humanitarian aid to be able
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- To care for the people of israel.
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- Thank you so much for watching.
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- Have a great week.
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- May you walk with the lord jesus christ.
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- Spend time in his word, spend time in fellowship
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- With other believers,
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- Care for the poor and needy, widows and orphans.
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- Pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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- Lord willing,
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- I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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