Joel Rosenberg sits down for an exclusive interview with former Prime Minister of Israel Naftali Bennett.
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- Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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- This former israeli prime minister has been leading
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- In all polls for the past 20 months
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- And could very well become israel's next prime minister.
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- But who is naftali bennett?
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- What's his background?
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- What are his values?
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- And how would he deal
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- With the iran nuclear threat different than bibi netanyahu?
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- Part one of joelâ–ˆs exclusive interview
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- With the once and possibly future leader of israel.
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- Plus, another exclusive.
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- Joel interviews the evangelical christian just appointed
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- To run the gaza humanitarian foundation.
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- Tonight, right here on the rosenberg report.
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- He's the most popular political figure in israel.
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- Every single poll over the last 20 months or so show that he is
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- The elections were
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- Going to happen today, or soon would be the next guy,
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- The next prime minister of israel.
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- He was the prime minister several years ago.
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- Then bibi netanyahu ousted him after he had ousted bibi.
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- But now the polls show very conclusively
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- And very consistently that he would be the next prime
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- Minister, that he would remove netanyahu from power.
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- But who is naftali bennett?
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- Most american evangelicals,
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- Most americans generally don't know who he is.
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- They don't know his values.
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- They don't know what he'd do on iran or saudi arabia.
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- The palestinians, they don't know
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- What his relationship would be like with evangelicals.
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- So tonight, the rosenberg report begins part one of a two part
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- Exclusive interview
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- With the once and possibly future prime minister of israel,
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- Naftali bennett.
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- Mr. former prime minister, maybe prime minister.
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- Again, i should ask you,
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- First of all, thanks for having us back at your home.
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- It's great to see you. it's great to see you, joel.
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- And i also want to say that, i very much,
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- Am grateful to you and your audience.
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- The evangelicals who have been so supportive of israel.
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- When everyone's bashing us, everyone's attacking us,
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- And we're fighting against the seven different fronts of,
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- Radical muslim islamist terrorism.
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- And we know that you have our back, and,
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- It means the world to us.
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- Thank you. well, i appreciate that very much.
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- And, yeah, seven kinetic fronts.
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- Seven fronts militarily.
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- But the eight front is the world of public opinion
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- That is attacking in so many ways.
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- I want to ask you about that. i have to ask you first of lies.
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- Yeah. the word, the avalanche of lies.
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- I being a and up to including in the last few days.
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- Well, let's start with what everybody wants to know.
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- Are you running for prime minister?
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- Are you ready to announce?
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- Because you did promise me a year ago
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- That when you were ready, you would announce on this show.
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- So i'll repeat that when i'm ready, i'll let you know.
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- Okay. all right.
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- But you're preparing.
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- I mean, clearly,
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- You're taking steps for the possibility of running.
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- You're building a party?
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- Yeah, i've registered a party and,
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- We need to have the ability to fix israel.
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- Israel is currently,
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- Being mismanaged, grossly mismanaged by, very poor
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- Leadership, in my opinion, and very divisive leadership.
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- And that's something that we need to repair.
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- We have to unite israel from within.
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- If we're divided,
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- We have no chance of beating our enemies.
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- And i think that's the sort of leadership that israel needs.
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- You're pulling is incredibly high, and it's been consistent.
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- I mean, the latest poll just in the last few days
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- Put your potential party at 28,
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- 29 seats, well ahead of any other party.
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- So that's a that's the the larger question.
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- I mean, we're not in the campaign season yet, though.
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- There's a lot of tremors inside the government.
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- You know, ultra-orthodox
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- Talking about maybe bringing this government down.
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- So we'll talk about some of those reasons in a moment.
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- But i want to really broaden out to the larger picture is
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- Who is naftali bennett?
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- For most evangelical christians
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- In the united states, canada, elsewhere,
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- They don't yet know you.
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- You were the prime minister.
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- You're very successful in business.
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- You're served in a very elite military unit.
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- But i just like to kind of
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- Sort of pull the curtain back and ask you to share
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- A little bit about yourself.
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- But let's start with
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- Some of your political values, and that is starting.
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- You have been very tough on the idea of it's time to hit iran.
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- When you and i were last together was last fall,
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- You spoke at an epicenter briefing with our organization's
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- All israel news and the joshua fund.
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- And you were pretty clear then.
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- And in the days that followed, you kept saying what you were
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- Saying to us, in california, which is it's time to hit iran.
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- That was last fall.
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- And how are you feeling about, you know, president trump
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- Is now telling prime minister netanyahu, don't attack iran.
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- Did we miss a window?
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- Well, the window of opportunity is closing and we have to act.
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- We should have acted way, long ago.
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- But now is the time to act.
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- And i want to explain this.
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- This center, the epicenter of islamic radical,
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- Terror, is tehran, the islamic republic of tehran. and
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- It's been this,
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- Octopus sending its arms all across the world,
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- All across the middle east, and creating these proxies
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- That hit and kill israelis and kill americans
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- And just kill anyone who doesn't want to become muslim
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- And what israel did over the past year was take out
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- Its air defense systems and two of its main proxies,
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- Hezbollah and hamas, which are, dramatically diminished.
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- So, if you will,
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- It's like being in a boxing match
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- And and your opponent right now, his hands are tied.
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- Finally, now is the time for the knockout.
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- And this should have been done.
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- You know, between biden and trump during that,
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- That short period of a couple of months.
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- Because biden told netanyahu, don't do it.
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- I know, but at the end of the day,
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- If you're an israeli
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- Prime minister, your utmost and i would say,
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- You know, the key consideration
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- Is the security and existence of the state of israel.
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- And we, very much respect former president biden,
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- But at the end of the day, we need to defend our people.
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- It's us who are living here.
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- It's us who are fighting all these crazy islamist terrorists,
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- Not biden.
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- And that was,
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- Really big opportunity that was missed.
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- But i think, still, we need to act. so.
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- So this, again, this will help evangelicals understand you
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- And who you are, what your values are.
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- Because, again, you said it with me in september.
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- You said it on cnn.
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- And throughout the fall, it's time to hit.
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- It's time to hit if there's ever
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- You know, it's not like we're i mean, we're not starting a war.
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- We were trying to end the war.
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- We keep on fighting
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- The tentacles of of this octopus instead of hitting its head.
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- So what is your assessment of why
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- Prime minister netanyahu didn't do it?
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- Do the knockout punch when this has been his
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- Main theme for 15, 20 years?
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- I don't know,
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- In many cases, people
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- Divorce their words from their actions.
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- This was too important to have missed out on it.
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- It's existential.
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- And you'd have to ask him what i do know
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- Is that the
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- Opportunity still exists, even if it's tougher than it
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- Was, say, seven months ago.
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- But we have to act.
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- I, i was a prime minister.
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- I sat at that chair, i sat at the table and,
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- The supreme and and key consideration,
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- Especially for the prime minister
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- Of the jewish state and as prime minister
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- Was the existence of israel.
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- I don't know of many other countries
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- Whose existence is being threatened.
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- Very few. france is not threatened.
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- America's existence is not threatened.
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- Sweden or...
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- Maybe taiwan and israel might be the only two threatened.
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- That's correct. ukraine, of course, you know. and and,
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- People want to wipe out the jewish state.
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- And when you're prime minister,
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- That's the main thing that i wake up with and go
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- To sleep at night with that, we have to ensure the security
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- Of the 10 million israelis living here.
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- Obviously, you can't go into any,
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- You know, classified details.
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- But as prime minister, former prime minister
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- And as a former defense minister,
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- Can israel do this job alone?
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- If the united states chooses not to help?
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- Yes. would we?
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- Well, would we?
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- Depends on leadership.
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- Can we? yes.
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- All right.
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- When we come back, we'll go deeper into these issues.
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- Thank you so much for sitting with us
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- At your at your home, inviting us to your home.
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- I really great to have you here.
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- Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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- As president trump and his team send conflicting signals over
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- What a new iran nuclear deal might look like.
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- Millions of evangelicals and israelis are getting nervous.
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- Does once and possibly
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- Future prime minister naftali bennett share those fears?
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- And what is the evangelical christian
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- Who was just appointed to run the gaza
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- Humanitarian foundation?
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- Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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- Right after the break.
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- Right after the break.
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- President trump
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- Recently made his first official foreign visit.
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- Aside from the the funeral of the pope,
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- Came to the middle east, didn't come to israel, saudi
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- Arabia, qatar and the united arab emirates.
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- But i will tell you that a lot of evangelicals
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- Are getting anxious.
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- Most evangelicals, the vast majority, support
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- President trump.
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- They believe he's been
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- A great president on a lot of our issues,
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- Including and most importantly, in some ways,
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- Being the
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- Most pro-israel president in american history.
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- So there's a lot of trust there.
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- But is american evangelicals are getting nervous
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- By where is the president going
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- On these negotiations with iran?
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- Why is he telling the netanyahu government?
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- Netanyahu himself?
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- Don't get in my way.
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- Don't take any military action.
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- And there's conflicting signals
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- Between steve wyckoff and the president.
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- The president himself said he wasn't sure whether he would
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- Allow iran to enrich uranium, but then he said that
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- He know that. definitely not.
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- But then whitcomb said maybe 3.65 or so israelis
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- Were getting nervous to, well, where's the president going?
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- What's your assessment of president trump's approach on
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- Iran? is it getting you nervous?
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- Well, first of all, let's remember
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- President trump has been amazing towards the people of israel,
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- The state of israel, the jewish people.
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- He had the guts to recognize jerusalem as our capital,
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- Which it is.
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- It's been that way for about 3000 years.
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- But he was the first american president
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- That not only promised, but delivered. right.
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- They all said they would.
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- Do and move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem.
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- Tel aviv is not our capital.
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- Jerusalem is our capital.
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- He recognized the golan heights.
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- No one else had the guts to do that.
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- As sovereign israeli territory.
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- Sovereign israeli territory, which it is.
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- Imagine if we had now jolani and all that mess
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- On the sea of galilee and not up in the golan heights.
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- So, first of all, on behalf of the israeli people,
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- We are grateful to president trump.
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- First and foremost. make no mistake.
- 00:11:34.687 --> 00:11:36.990
- Now there are differences.
- 00:11:36.990 --> 00:11:38.858
- He also ripped up the iran nuclear deal
- 00:11:38.858 --> 00:11:41.494
- That that obama and biden did,
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- Which he said was the worst deal in history.
- 00:11:42.996 --> 00:11:44.364
- You know what else he did?
- 00:11:44.364 --> 00:11:45.965
- He killed soleimani.
- 00:11:45.965 --> 00:11:47.300
- Yeah. which was the architect of the.
- 00:11:47.300 --> 00:11:48.968
- Whole the top iranian terrorist.
- 00:11:48.968 --> 00:11:50.637
- Right? number one, the iranian terrorist.
- 00:11:50.637 --> 00:11:52.505
- So that's why he has so much trust in the bank, right? right.
- 00:11:52.505 --> 00:11:55.308
- And we don't forget that.
- 00:11:55.308 --> 00:11:57.277
- And i won't forget that.
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- Right now.
- 00:11:59.312 --> 00:12:01.047
- I do think, however, that, iran is in
- 00:12:01.047 --> 00:12:04.551
- Such a unstable state, that with enough pressure,
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- We could see
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- A whole new regime come there and it's wobbling.
- 00:12:12.225 --> 00:12:16.162
- It's,
- 00:12:16.162 --> 00:12:17.730
- They're very old leadership, disconnected from the people.
- 00:12:17.730 --> 00:12:21.534
- Incompetent, corrupt, cruel.
- 00:12:22.135 --> 00:12:26.806
- And again,
- 00:12:26.806 --> 00:12:27.340
- And it's sort of like,
- 00:12:27.340 --> 00:12:28.474
- Reminiscent of the soviet union of the late 80s.
- 00:12:28.474 --> 00:12:31.678
- It's going to collapse sooner or later.
- 00:12:31.678 --> 00:12:33.279
- And now we just need to give that little shove.
- 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.217
- And that's what if i were prime minister of israel.
- 00:12:37.217 --> 00:12:39.652
- That's what i would try and and get america together.
- 00:12:39.652 --> 00:12:43.122
- We don't need america to go to war with iran.
- 00:12:43.122 --> 00:12:46.092
- We are. israel is at war with iran.
- 00:12:46.092 --> 00:12:48.127
- Iran has been punching us for ages.
- 00:12:48.127 --> 00:12:50.063
- We gave to small punches back.
- 00:12:50.063 --> 00:12:52.665
- But that's not nearly enough.
- 00:12:52.665 --> 00:12:55.235
- At the end of the day, it's israel's responsibility
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- To ensure our security.
- 00:12:58.905 --> 00:13:00.206
- And i think,
- 00:13:00.206 --> 00:13:01.608
- No american president, certainly not president trump would,
- 00:13:01.608 --> 00:13:04.310
- Deny israel of our right to defend ourselves.
- 00:13:05.178 --> 00:13:08.882
- Do you see a scenario?
- 00:13:08.882 --> 00:13:10.783
- Do you see a deal that that you could say, oh, well,
- 00:13:10.783 --> 00:13:13.853
- Okay, i didn't see that deal.
- 00:13:13.853 --> 00:13:14.988
- If trump is able to get that deal
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- And he can enforce it, i can be okay with that.
- 00:13:16.623 --> 00:13:19.025
- I mean, oh yeah.
- 00:13:19.025 --> 00:13:19.659
- Yeah. oh, you got one
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- That totally dismantles their nuclear program.
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- And, and verifies that and has no,
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- End date, no expiration date to the deal or what's
- 00:13:27.934 --> 00:13:30.670
- Called the sunset clause, one that tells them to stop,
- 00:13:30.670 --> 00:13:35.074
- All their mischief and terror in the region.
- 00:13:35.975 --> 00:13:39.045
- That sort of deal would be, would be great.
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- Unless.
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- Okay, so i agree with you,
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- Except that i can't see the scenario in which
- 00:13:44.951 --> 00:13:46.786
- When when president trump says,
- 00:13:46.786 --> 00:13:48.454
- And then we'll
- 00:13:48.454 --> 00:13:49.522
- Lift the sanctions and because that will strengthen
- 00:13:49.522 --> 00:13:52.458
- The very regime, i will accomplish what we want.
- 00:13:52.458 --> 00:13:55.962
- But but we'll open up the door for it to be worse later.
- 00:13:55.962 --> 00:13:59.132
- If if this regime gets rich, that that worries me.
- 00:13:59.132 --> 00:14:02.302
- I don't want this regime to be in power at all.
- 00:14:02.302 --> 00:14:04.704
- It's a valid point because you have, a very weak,
- 00:14:04.704 --> 00:14:08.508
- Feeble body right now and you don't want it injected
- 00:14:08.508 --> 00:14:12.145
- With new blood, with $200 billion,
- 00:14:12.145 --> 00:14:16.082
- Worth of money that they are with.
- 00:14:16.816 --> 00:14:19.018
- But, you know, at the end of the day, still,
- 00:14:19.018 --> 00:14:21.854
- If we had those two pieces of totally dismantling
- 00:14:21.854 --> 00:14:24.891
- And verifying, the there's no more nuclear program
- 00:14:24.891 --> 00:14:28.995
- And without, any deadline, it goes on forever.
- 00:14:28.995 --> 00:14:32.699
- And, stop the terror.
- 00:14:33.199 --> 00:14:36.202
- You would take it.
- 00:14:36.202 --> 00:14:36.970
- Take it and say.
- 00:14:36.970 --> 00:14:37.971
- We'll deal with the regime later, but we.
- 00:14:37.971 --> 00:14:39.539
- Yeah, yeah, we got what we need. yeah.
- 00:14:39.539 --> 00:14:40.974
- Because after that, you know, i don't wake up in the mornings,
- 00:14:40.974 --> 00:14:44.744
- Thinking to how i could change a regime in iran,
- 00:14:44.744 --> 00:14:47.413
- I think how i can secure israel in the region.
- 00:14:47.413 --> 00:14:50.550
- Right. and that sort of deal, the one i said.
- 00:14:50.550 --> 00:14:52.719
- But it's the whole dismantling of the whole thing.
- 00:14:52.719 --> 00:14:54.887
- Just blow the whole thing up. that would be a good deal.
- 00:14:54.887 --> 00:14:58.091
- If you come back to power
- 00:14:58.091 --> 00:15:01.094
- And there is no deal like that.
- 00:15:01.094 --> 00:15:02.628
- And and president trump has not yet made a decision
- 00:15:02.628 --> 00:15:06.099
- On whether he wants to use force.
- 00:15:06.099 --> 00:15:09.702
- It's the likely scenario that a bennett
- 00:15:09.702 --> 00:15:13.306
- Government
- 00:15:13.606 --> 00:15:15.441
- Will not hold punches israel's punches any longer,
- 00:15:15.441 --> 00:15:18.211
- That it will take the type of decisive action
- 00:15:18.211 --> 00:15:20.947
- That you've been talking about for quite some time,
- 00:15:20.947 --> 00:15:23.016
- And you're not the only one who's talked about it.
- 00:15:23.016 --> 00:15:24.283
- It just hasn't happened.
- 00:15:24.283 --> 00:15:25.218
- I also acted on it.
- 00:15:25.218 --> 00:15:27.487
- When i was prime minister, israel conducted a series of,
- 00:15:27.487 --> 00:15:32.658
- I would say offensive attacks
- 00:15:33.292 --> 00:15:35.128
- Against, their terror apparatus on iranian soil.
- 00:15:35.128 --> 00:15:39.098
- But i'll set that aside.
- 00:15:39.098 --> 00:15:41.534
- Look, that's what we need to do, okay.
- 00:15:41.534 --> 00:15:45.338
- Well, israel is not just being attacked militarily
- 00:15:46.372 --> 00:15:48.741
- As we as you opened up the show with,
- 00:15:48.741 --> 00:15:51.044
- There's such a public relations war
- 00:15:51.811 --> 00:15:54.247
- To smear us to defame us, to make us look like
- 00:15:54.247 --> 00:15:57.884
- Israelis, look like we're engaged
- 00:15:57.884 --> 00:15:59.218
- In genocide or starving, starving palestinians in gaza
- 00:15:59.218 --> 00:16:03.389
- When we've let so many trucks of aid to come into gaza.
- 00:16:03.389 --> 00:16:07.493
- And it's hamas that keeps shooting people
- 00:16:07.493 --> 00:16:09.729
- To steal the food.
- 00:16:09.729 --> 00:16:11.731
- So first on the media and then we'll get to the actual,
- 00:16:11.731 --> 00:16:15.401
- You know, what's the right way to handle,
- 00:16:15.401 --> 00:16:18.037
- The future of gaza. but,
- 00:16:18.037 --> 00:16:20.873
- You become famous in your post premier role
- 00:16:20.873 --> 00:16:24.777
- As being on television and telling bbc interviewers
- 00:16:24.777 --> 00:16:27.814
- And sky news and others, shame on you for just
- 00:16:27.814 --> 00:16:31.551
- These wicked lies and the slander against israel.
- 00:16:31.551 --> 00:16:34.520
- How do you assess what in the world is going on with the
- 00:16:34.520 --> 00:16:37.590
- The quote, mainstream media that just will will parrot
- 00:16:37.590 --> 00:16:42.328
- Hamas lies against the israeli people?
- 00:16:42.328 --> 00:16:45.531
- It's quite, unbelievable.
- 00:16:45.531 --> 00:16:47.733
- And sometimes it almost feels overwhelming.
- 00:16:48.668 --> 00:16:51.137
- But we have to fight back, you know, about 200 years ago,
- 00:16:51.137 --> 00:16:55.341
- There was something called a blood libel where jews were,
- 00:16:56.442 --> 00:17:00.546
- Were blamed
- 00:17:00.880 --> 00:17:01.948
- When a gentile child was murdered, the jews were
- 00:17:01.948 --> 00:17:05.918
- Blamed for murdering the child to use his blood
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- To bake matzah, which is, the bread of passover.
- 00:17:09.922 --> 00:17:14.827
- And, you know, when i grew up here in israel,
- 00:17:14.827 --> 00:17:17.997
- It seemed like, ancient history, like how people believe
- 00:17:17.997 --> 00:17:23.069
- That it's so it's so crazy.
- 00:17:23.069 --> 00:17:24.904
- Why would we do that?
- 00:17:24.904 --> 00:17:26.539
- And now i've seen blood libels.
- 00:17:26.539 --> 00:17:29.942
- Right.
- 00:17:30.143 --> 00:17:30.943
- Right in front of my eyes on cnn.
- 00:17:30.943 --> 00:17:32.311
- On bbc.
- 00:17:32.311 --> 00:17:33.479
- Only over the past ten days,
- 00:17:33.479 --> 00:17:36.315
- Israel was accused,
- 00:17:36.315 --> 00:17:38.751
- Of just tanks opening fire on citizens waiting in line.
- 00:17:38.751 --> 00:17:43.756
- That is not what israel is about.
- 00:17:43.756 --> 00:17:45.491
- We don't do that.
- 00:17:45.491 --> 00:17:46.559
- My own son is in the army.
- 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:48.561
- We don't do that. i was in the army.
- 00:17:48.561 --> 00:17:50.730
- That's not what israel is about.
- 00:17:50.730 --> 00:17:52.865
- I it's made. up and there was no proof.
- 00:17:52.865 --> 00:17:54.734
- I mean, once.
- 00:17:54.734 --> 00:17:55.535
- You know,
- 00:17:55.535 --> 00:17:56.736
- They look at the video, you know, what we
- 00:17:56.736 --> 00:17:58.804
- We found and we made it public.
- 00:17:58.804 --> 00:18:00.540
- This is, on on the web. you can find it.
- 00:18:00.540 --> 00:18:02.909
- Hamas was shooting the people because it doesn't
- 00:18:02.909 --> 00:18:05.678
- Want the people to get the food directly from israel.
- 00:18:05.678 --> 00:18:08.881
- It wants to make money and control the gazans.
- 00:18:08.881 --> 00:18:12.952
- So instead of supporting israel, the world is attacking us.
- 00:18:12.952 --> 00:18:16.822
- And this lie of starvation where they they show either
- 00:18:16.822 --> 00:18:20.960
- Ai generated pictures or pictures of kids with pre
- 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.664
- Medical conditions of cerebral palsy or muscle dystrophy.
- 00:18:24.664 --> 00:18:30.803
- And then say, you know, there's hunger.
- 00:18:30.803 --> 00:18:33.005
- We have led in 1.7 million tons of food and resources.
- 00:18:33.005 --> 00:18:38.978
- That's 3000 calories per gazan per day.
- 00:18:38.978 --> 00:18:44.584
- Those are the facts.
- 00:18:44.584 --> 00:18:46.586
- And so israel is not starving gaza.
- 00:18:46.586 --> 00:18:50.556
- Hamas is trying to starve gazans in order to control them.
- 00:18:50.556 --> 00:18:54.760
- And now we're trying to take away that weapon from them.
- 00:18:54.760 --> 00:18:58.130
- Thank you so much for speaking out
- 00:18:58.130 --> 00:18:59.899
- As forcefully, as consistently as you do,
- 00:18:59.899 --> 00:19:02.501
- Not just coming out of
- 00:19:02.501 --> 00:19:03.669
- The world's
- 00:19:03.669 --> 00:19:04.637
- Most watched christian television network,
- 00:19:04.637 --> 00:19:06.038
- But going into the belly of the beast, on all these shows.
- 00:19:06.038 --> 00:19:09.275
- Thank you so much. thank you.
- 00:19:09.275 --> 00:19:11.611
- Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
- 00:19:12.378 --> 00:19:15.114
- Who is the evangelical christian who was just appointed to run
- 00:19:15.114 --> 00:19:18.551
- The gaza humanitarian foundation?
- 00:19:18.551 --> 00:19:20.820
- And why did he say yes to this incredibly complex operation?
- 00:19:20.820 --> 00:19:25.491
- Find out and watch joel's exclusive interview with him
- 00:19:25.491 --> 00:19:28.694
- When the rosenberg report continues on tbn
- 00:19:28.694 --> 00:19:31.797
- Right after the break.
- 00:19:31.797 --> 00:19:35.007
- Right after the break.
- 00:19:35.007 --> 00:19:38.276
- Most of you don't know this yet, but president trump
- 00:19:39.310 --> 00:19:41.979
- Has appointed a major evangelical leader
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- To run the gaza humanitarian foundation.
- 00:19:45.416 --> 00:19:48.653
- Johnny, thank you so much for joining us.
- 00:19:48.653 --> 00:19:50.421
- Congratulations.
- 00:19:50.421 --> 00:19:51.555
- Talk to us about how did this come about
- 00:19:51.555 --> 00:19:54.792
- And then what's the mission?
- 00:19:54.792 --> 00:19:58.062
- Look, i mean, the gaza humanitarian foundation
- 00:19:58.062 --> 00:20:00.364
- Has demonstrated in, in recent weeks
- 00:20:00.364 --> 00:20:02.967
- Something that was long thought to be impossible,
- 00:20:02.967 --> 00:20:04.835
- That you could actually get
- 00:20:04.835 --> 00:20:06.003
- Humanitarian aid to the palestinians in gaza
- 00:20:06.003 --> 00:20:09.573
- Without that aid being diverted or stolen or, or weaponized by
- 00:20:09.573 --> 00:20:14.011
- By hamas.
- 00:20:14.312 --> 00:20:15.379
- And i think all of us have been been frustrated
- 00:20:15.379 --> 00:20:17.248
- For many, many years to watch as the system meant to actually
- 00:20:17.248 --> 00:20:21.986
- Take care of gazans was being exploited.
- 00:20:21.986 --> 00:20:25.323
- Sometimes to prolong conflict as a as in this case.
- 00:20:25.323 --> 00:20:28.459
- You know, even on,
- 00:20:28.893 --> 00:20:31.162
- Many, many occasions it doesn't get reported,
- 00:20:32.096 --> 00:20:34.031
- But actually, un workers who are driving trucks,
- 00:20:34.031 --> 00:20:38.536
- For instance, with the un, you know, have been
- 00:20:38.536 --> 00:20:40.771
- Have been targeted by, by hamas terrorists.
- 00:20:40.771 --> 00:20:43.507
- And more than one circumstance, even killed.
- 00:20:43.507 --> 00:20:45.676
- And so
- 00:20:45.676 --> 00:20:46.911
- The gaza humanitarian foundation is really an opportunity to,
- 00:20:46.911 --> 00:20:49.747
- Like, show
- 00:20:49.747 --> 00:20:50.581
- That there is a way of doing this
- 00:20:50.581 --> 00:20:52.350
- Where you don't have to take to have to take that risk.
- 00:20:52.350 --> 00:20:54.985
- And so i think many of us that watch the region
- 00:20:54.985 --> 00:20:57.088
- That care about the region, of course,
- 00:20:57.088 --> 00:20:58.456
- I care deeply about the entire entire region.
- 00:20:58.456 --> 00:21:00.891
- I want to see peace across the whole region.
- 00:21:00.891 --> 00:21:02.560
- And in my heart, the first thing i am is a peace activist.
- 00:21:02.560 --> 00:21:06.230
- But this has been a a challenge and almost
- 00:21:06.230 --> 00:21:09.700
- No one was willing to take it on. fortunately,
- 00:21:09.700 --> 00:21:11.769
- The president, the united states understands that.
- 00:21:11.769 --> 00:21:13.971
- And and in may, he in fact said a quite profound statement.
- 00:21:13.971 --> 00:21:18.376
- He he made the point that that hamas was making it
- 00:21:18.376 --> 00:21:21.679
- Very, very difficult to get help to the palestinian people.
- 00:21:21.679 --> 00:21:24.715
- And he was determined to fix that.
- 00:21:24.715 --> 00:21:28.018
- This is not a u.s. government operation.
- 00:21:28.018 --> 00:21:30.388
- It's under israeli government operation.
- 00:21:30.388 --> 00:21:32.056
- It's an independent private foundation
- 00:21:32.056 --> 00:21:34.058
- Meant to solve a problem that the president
- 00:21:34.058 --> 00:21:36.427
- Of the united states identified long ago.
- 00:21:36.427 --> 00:21:39.029
- All right. so talk about that a little bit.
- 00:21:39.029 --> 00:21:41.265
- Obviously it's a trump initiative,
- 00:21:41.265 --> 00:21:43.434
- But set up as a private, private foundation.
- 00:21:43.434 --> 00:21:46.904
- But it's obviously requires
- 00:21:47.505 --> 00:21:49.306
- The assistance of the us government.
- 00:21:49.306 --> 00:21:50.708
- And, and in terms of security, israel
- 00:21:50.708 --> 00:21:53.911
- Is ultimately responsible, to provide security in gaza.
- 00:21:53.911 --> 00:21:59.150
- So how does that work as a private organization?
- 00:21:59.150 --> 00:22:02.319
- What what is that air fuel mixture?
- 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:05.723
- No, i mean, it's like it's like any of the large
- 00:22:05.723 --> 00:22:08.559
- Private humanitarian international organizations.
- 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:11.529
- It's a it's a it's a us foundation.
- 00:22:11.529 --> 00:22:14.565
- The the contractors on the ground
- 00:22:14.565 --> 00:22:16.333
- That are facilitating all of the food delivery
- 00:22:16.333 --> 00:22:18.402
- That have set up all the operation.
- 00:22:18.402 --> 00:22:19.804
- These are incredibly skilled technical experts.
- 00:22:19.804 --> 00:22:22.573
- They're all americans.
- 00:22:22.573 --> 00:22:23.541
- This is a this is a us initiative.
- 00:22:23.541 --> 00:22:25.342
- It's something that america can be very, very, very proud of.
- 00:22:25.342 --> 00:22:28.579
- And and like you and i actually have done for for many years.
- 00:22:28.579 --> 00:22:32.817
- As you know, as, as people who care about the region,
- 00:22:32.817 --> 00:22:37.154
- You know, very, very often
- 00:22:37.154 --> 00:22:38.355
- The united states government will set a policy direction.
- 00:22:38.355 --> 00:22:41.959
- And, you know, as americans, we have the opportunity
- 00:22:41.959 --> 00:22:44.061
- To sort of like say, okay,
- 00:22:44.061 --> 00:22:46.063
- I'll take that on and i'll work on that.
- 00:22:46.063 --> 00:22:47.865
- And, and, you know, the beauty of living in a democracy,
- 00:22:47.865 --> 00:22:51.469
- Is that you
- 00:22:51.802 --> 00:22:52.736
- You have the ability to make the difference
- 00:22:52.736 --> 00:22:54.138
- On issues like that that you care about.
- 00:22:54.138 --> 00:22:56.340
- And so that's what this is.
- 00:22:56.340 --> 00:22:57.675
- You know, this is a this is a us foundation
- 00:22:57.675 --> 00:23:00.344
- Based in the united states of america
- 00:23:00.344 --> 00:23:02.046
- That decided to take on this problem, that refuses to accept
- 00:23:02.046 --> 00:23:05.816
- That the only way that you can deliver aid
- 00:23:05.816 --> 00:23:08.219
- To the desperate people in gaza is to also allow hamas
- 00:23:08.219 --> 00:23:11.856
- To steal that aid, sell it back to the people,
- 00:23:11.856 --> 00:23:14.225
- Weaponize it, use it for coercive purposes.
- 00:23:14.225 --> 00:23:16.427
- That's a false choice.
- 00:23:16.427 --> 00:23:18.195
- It doesn't have to be that way.
- 00:23:18.195 --> 00:23:19.797
- Well, i say amen to all of that.
- 00:23:19.797 --> 00:23:21.699
- You know what's interesting to me is
- 00:23:21.699 --> 00:23:23.100
- You guys have gotten
- 00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:24.101
- A lot of meals, a lot of food in, in just in,
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- Just in recent weeks.
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- Would you talk to us about some of the numbers?
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- I mean, first of all, a job for people to really understand
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- The, the situation like this is the single most complex
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- Humanitarian, environment in, in many, many years.
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- It's it's it's unbelievably complex, unbelievably deadly.
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- It is a real humanitarian crisis.
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- And so the fact that in the very first week of operations that
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- I was able to deliver 7 million meals
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- In eight days without a single security incident happening
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- Within the confines of the of the distribution center,
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- We can't, you know, this is an active war zone
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- We can't fully control, can't control at all.
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- Actually, what happens outside of the
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- Distribution centers, you know, we can make sure that,
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- You know, the attention is being given
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- To secure corridors to get to those centers.
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- We can send out instructions to people
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- As to how to get to those centers.
- 00:24:21.825 --> 00:24:23.761
- But this has been an unbelievable success,
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- And it was such an unbelievable success
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- That now certain nefarious actors
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- Decided to issue a global disinformation campaign
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- To discredit, you know, the effort
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- When the exact opposite should have been happening.
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- Everybody should have been celebrating what was going on.
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- Right?
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- Well, we're celebrating it.
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- And that's why i want people to be aware of it.
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- I really appreciate you coming on
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- To the rosenberg report to talk about it, because,
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- An american initiative
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- Encouraged and supported by president trump, run
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- By an evangelical christian and yet,
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- With all that complexity of trying to deliver
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- Actual care, you know, really, truly love our neighbors
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- And in some cases, loving our enemies.
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- In the hottest of hot zones.
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- I mean, i've been in gaza, with the 98th brigade of israel
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- And i division,
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- As a journalist embedded going in those terror tunnels.
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- And it is apocalyptic destruction
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- As far as the eye can see,
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- Hamas is 100% responsible for the destruction
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- That's been brought upon, the portions of gaza.
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- And in fact,
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- There's a huge uprising now against hamas of outrage.
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- And as people feel increasingly out side
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- The grip of hamas,
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- They're beginning to speak out and they're openly talking about
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- How they've been cursed by hamas and they want help.
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- They're not, they're not they're not becoming zionists.
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- But they do want
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- They're they're listening to president
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- Trump who says, i'm going to make gaza great again.
- 00:25:51.682 --> 00:25:54.585
- Now, he didn't say it quite that way,
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- But he's saying, i want to bring help
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- And a future to the people of gaza.
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- And he's turning to someone like you, johnny, god bless you.
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- I'm so grateful for johnny moore.
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- First, that he got appointed to this position,
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- A really critical position as an evangelical christian.
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- Please be praying for him and his team.
- 00:26:09.833 --> 00:26:11.702
- Really important work.
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- Pray for naftali bennett and his family.
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- We don't take a position at the rosenberg report.
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- And who should be the prime minister.
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- But we want you to know
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- The decision makers and the the movers and shakers
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- In this region, whether they're political,
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- Whether they're economic or pastors and ministry leaders
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- On the front lines of the faith.
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- So please be praying.
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- Please be praying for all the hostages to be released.
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- We're not quite there yet.
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- We've got to keep pressing them in prayer
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- That god would set all the captives free.
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- Have a great week.
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- Have a great week. walk with the lord.
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- Stay in his word. stay in fellowship.
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- Pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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- Care for the poor, needy and lord willing,
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- I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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