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January 22, 2026 | 27:28

On this episode of The Rosenberg Report, Joel Rosenberg is joined by Yossi Cohen to discuss the future of Iran.

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Tonight and the rosenberg report.
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With thousands of iranians murdered, arrested and tortured
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By the tyrants in tehran.
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President trump orders aircraft carrier strike group
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And other military assets into the middle east.
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Is he preparing to punish the iranian regime or tablet?
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Or is it all just for show?
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Taking no chances.
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Israel goes on high alert, but critical questions remain.
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What does the future hold for iran?
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The saudis.
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Israel and evangelical christians in the epicenter.
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Will 2026 be another year of war and terror,
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Or a year of historic new peace treaties and tectonic
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Geopolitical change?
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I sit down with former mossad chief yossi cohen
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To ask tough questions and get candid answers.
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In part two of my exclusive interview
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With the man who served as israel's top spy,
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And it's all right here, right now.
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On the rosenberg report.
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Good evening from jerusalem.
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And welcome to the rosenberg report.
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Look, tensions here are sky high.
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Events are moving rapidly.
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And the prospect for an apocalyptic missile
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War, a new missile war
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Here in the region is, i'm afraid, very, very real.
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But it's not certain.
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Look.
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Thousands of iranian protesters have been murdered
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By the tyrants in tehran.
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Some reports put the number at over 20,000.
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Tens of thousands more have been arrested by the regime.
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And president trump has ordered two american aircraft carrier
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Strike groups into the region, along with hundreds of fighter
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Jets, bombers, missile defense batteries and american troops.
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Over the weekend, president trump made huge headlines by
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Calling for an end to the regime of so-called supreme leader
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Ali khamenei 37 year long reign of terror.
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Telling politico it's time to look for new leadership in iran.
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Trump called the ayatollah a sick man.
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He's sure he's right about that.
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Whose country is the worst place to live anywhere
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In the world because of his poor leadership.
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So what happens next in iran?
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At the moment, i see three distinct possible scenarios.
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To be sure,
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This scenario is the riskiest,
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Most expensive and most controversial option.
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Now, i don't pretend to know which option
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President trump will choose.
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I'm not sure if he knows at the moment, but i urge you
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And all christians everywhere to pray without ceasing
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For the president,
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For the people of iran, and pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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After all, critical questions remain
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Which brings us to part two of my exclusive interview,
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My exclusive conversation
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With yossi cohen, israel's former national security advisor
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And the former head of israel's legendary spy service,
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The mossad.
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Yossi cohen has just written a spellbinding new book.
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It's fascinating. it's called the sword of freedom.
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It's a memoir of his life as an israeli spy,
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A real life jewish james bond that worked deep undercover
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Missions in iran and all over the region
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And around the world, and his role
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As national security advisor and mossad chief.
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And i could not put this book down.
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I highly recommend that you buy it or listen to it.
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It's fantastic.
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And as we sat down for a 75 minute conversation
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Over a wide range of critical topics,
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I have to tell you that i was struck by how impressed
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Yossi cohen is with president trump's geopolitical instincts
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And how bullish yossi cohen is about trump's ability
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To move the middle east from a place of war and terror
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And darkness to a very positive new future
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Of peace, prosperity and security.
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Take a look.
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So i think that in the region which is most important today,
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You feel the american presence again so strongly.
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All right.
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And every positive and a strong view,
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Of course, positively everything is connected.
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Iran is connected to its relationship with mbs.
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Its relationship with the qataris, his relationship
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With mbz in abu dhabi's relationship with
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And for the king of bahrain, his relationship with,
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What he did in venezuela, i mean,
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Everything is connected to everything.
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So when you connect these dots, you have the absolute strong
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Feeling that a big change is going to happen
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In the middle east
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As well, backed by the american administration.
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And there are only the american administration can do it.
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There were two questions i had to ask yossi cohen,
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Because there are so many
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Conspiracy theories in the air on these topics, driven
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Mostly by tucker carlson and candace owens and their ilk.
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One was about jeffrey epstein,
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The other was about charlie kirk. jeffrey epstein...
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Was he a mossad operative?
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Were you guys running
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Jeffrey epstein in some sort of sex scandal?
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I don't know,
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Trying to lure the world leaders into these.
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Of course not.
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But, you see, these become the
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The things that, you know, i mean, probably
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Because you're a former mossad chief, i would say
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You have the standing to tell me if it didn't happen.
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But then other people will say, well, of course he's just lying
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Because, well, it's so it's so easy
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To blame israel for many things that we do.
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I mean, first is that we are imperialistic, right?
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That we conquer and that we then then it goes all the way down
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To the state of israel conducts genocide, which we don't.
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And then there is another myth, okay?
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Everything that is happening around
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The world is connected to either jewish or jewish communities.
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Charlie kirk did everything.
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We're of course not.
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Of course not.
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I mean, we don't do this kind of stuff.
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I mean, we're fighting enemies.
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One, our most pro-israel people in the world.
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I would, we do?
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Of course not.
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Yeah, but these are the this is we're constantly dealing with.
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I know
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I noted in our conversation that israel has a lot
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Fewer friends today in the world and a lot more public enemies,
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More than i've ever seen in my 58 years.
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We've seen a global explosion of anti-semitism,
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Including inside the united states
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And rarely in our modern history as israelis have israelis
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Felt more alone in the world than they do right now.
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One major exception, of course, is evangelical christians,
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Who overall are standing very strongly with israel.
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There are more than 60 million evangelical christians
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In the united states and 600 million worldwide.
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So i asked yossi cohen, how does he view this alliance
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Between israel and evangelicals,
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And how should we deepen it, expand it, and strengthen it?
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First, i highly appreciate,
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I mean, what you say because i think that this is a
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A major topic that is eventually practically
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Connected to the existence of the state of israel.
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I mean, we have our own values, our own rules.
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We're jewish. all right.
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So we have our own culture that we have to guard, freely.
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This is nothing that could be either interfered
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By any other religion or culture or nothing
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That we can mix with any mix with any other religion
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Or culture.
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This is what we see on a level that is gone.
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On the other hand, israel should
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Practically, i mean, carry, very sophisticated
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International relationship in order to exist.
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It's not only who but who we are.
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Is it about who we want to be,
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And do we want to be part
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Of the world, or do we want to be separated
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From the world.
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Evangelical society is so good with us,
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And i and i cherish this kind of relationship.
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I'm aware of that.
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I have some good, good, good friends that are part
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Of your wonderful community around the world.
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And i think, if i'm not mistaken, if mike
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Pompeo is a very... an absolute
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Marco rubio...
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All these people that i know,
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Some very personally, some professionally,
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Are amazing with us.
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And this is, i think, the only evangelical
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That you specifically mentioned is used.
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The word is mike pompeo.
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It was a very close relationship. right.
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And this is not you know, this is not happening for
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Without without having the same or sharing the same values,
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Roots and culture, all right.
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When i would i've met with mike this the first time.
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You know, it was like as i told him, i mean,
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A few days ago, we've been, i mean, celebrating together,
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Not celebrating together. i'm sorry.
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It was a gala evening for united hatzalah, in miami.
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And i told them on stage with that was the love of first sight
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At first sight.
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So, i think it was, but not because
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Of basically our personality or just who we are.
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It is because of what we believe in.
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And i think evangelical society
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And community around the world, and majorly in the usa,
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Where i think that you are the biggest. right?
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I mean, you're the...
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60 million...
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Yeah. how many? i'm sorry.
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60 million.
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Worldwide, 600 million.
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600 million. number in america. it's quite a 10% of.
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I can't say that every single evangelical
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Really understands israel, but.
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But among the vast majority, yes.
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Christian zionism, the sense that
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It's not a political decision to support israel and the jews.
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It's a theological understanding of god has a deep love
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And a man, and we need to be part of that.
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And as opposed to that, although i know, i know the plan.
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Yeah, i'm aware of the plan.
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And we are
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I think that we're happy to be part
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Of that culture of yours and that ethnical,
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An ethical thing, because it translated to have
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This kind of beautiful relationship
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With the state of israel or with the jewish communities,
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Not only from within the usa but outside of the usa
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And of course, inside, this is also highly appreciated.
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So i believe the bottom line is that in order to fight
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The existence or to the existence
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Of the state of missouri notified antisemitism
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Outside of the state of israel, we should do that together.
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And i think that
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Your voice is heard and should be heard even louder
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Inside the usa and of course, outside of the usa.
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In 2019, prime minister netanyahu publicly endorsed
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The idea of appointing an ambassador
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To the christian world, an idea that i thought was great.
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Unfortunately, he's never followed through.
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So i asked yossi cohen, what does he think?
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Does he believe that it would be
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A good idea for netanyahu or the next prime minister
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To appoint an ambassador specifically to work with
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The christian world?
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Absolutely.
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I think that you're you're so right.
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And unfortunately, we're not doing it.
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One ambassador position isn't alone kind of suffice.
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But somehow, you know, this is too big of an opportunity
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With 600 million just of evangelicals.
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Not to mention there are some roman catholics
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Who love israel or some orthodox that love issues.
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So this is just a huge portfolio
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That doesn't have an ambassador.
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And we have ambassadors to the tiniest
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Of countries on the, on the planet.
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So i don't want to overstate that, but i just,
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We are looking for friends
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And we're looking to build these friendships.
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And i just think that absolutely as and i
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Look at your description with which i can, can agree to
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Is that when you
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When you describe probably the only two
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That have dealt with it, it goes all the way
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Back to the prime minister's office,
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And it could not be the only one doing it.
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He cannot be the only one doing.
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Why? is it because the mission is if,
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I mean, evangelicals
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Of course super important, but it's not the only one.
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But you have to communicate who we are
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To the catholic world, which is like billions of right.
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And you have to communicate who
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We are to the arab world and to the muslim world.
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And there are some,
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Important figures and important people and important, you
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Know, leaders that are seeing positively the state of israel.
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And it is not being communicated rightly.
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Head of mossad could could do part of it.
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And i did as much as i can to explain who we are.
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Yeah. okay.
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To show them, i mean, kind of a tree.
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I mean, to show them.
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I mean, you see, this is the reality, okay?
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This is what i show you.
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These are the details of the country.
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This is the way the country runs.
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It's like, this is how jewish communities
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Are eventually living.
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We're not trying to create wars.
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We're not imperialistic.
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And trying to conquer countries and nations and land.
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We're not killing.
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We're not genocide.
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I mean, i mean, we do not do genocide.
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We do not conduct genocide.
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And all this has to be explained again and again.
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Again. we do not have that.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report
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How does former mossad chief yossi cohen view israeli prime
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Minister benjamin netanyahu, and how does he assess
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Netanyahu's political prospects for reelection in 2026?
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Will israelis reward bibi for his stunning successes
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In defeating or severely damaging israel's many enemies,
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Or punish him for failing to detect and prevent
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The horrific massacre of 1200
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Israelis on october 7th, 2023?
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Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after this break.
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Right after this break.
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Welcome back
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To the rosenberg report, right here in jerusalem.
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Yossi cohen was prime minister netanyahu's
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National security advisor.
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Bibi appointed him to be the head of the mossad.
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And then they had
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One of the most impactful, effective relationships
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That any prime minister and mossad
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Director has ever had in israeli history.
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Yet upon retiring from the mossad, yossi
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Cohen has had some very pointed criticisms of his old boss.
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Cohen writes in his new book, the sword of freedom
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That it is unforgivable what israel's leadership
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Allowed to happen on october 7th.
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In public remarks
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After his book was published, cohen went even further.
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There was a time last summer that cohen was publicly
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Considering the idea of running for prime minister.
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He concluded last fall that it was not his time,
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But that did not stop him from arguing
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That it was time for netanyahu, to step aside.
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Last september, for example, in a primetime interview
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On israel's channel 12, cohen said in hebrew
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That israel, quote, needs to move away from divisive
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Factionalism and to talk about unity.
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And then he argued that netanyahu can't do that.
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He can't unify what needs to be unified right now.
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During his many years in office, netanyahu has done many things
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Out of a deep faith in israel that are good,
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Cohen acknowledged.
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But, he added, at this time, now, change is required.
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In light of all of this, i asked yossi cohen to assess
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He is not perfect.
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I think
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That he can do wonderful work from october 7th onwards.
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I mean,
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I think that the challenges that the state of israel
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Has faced, not only alone,
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But together with the mossad, shin bet,
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Idf, i think that we've done beautifully.
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And that's under him.
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The things that i wrote in
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My book is not a proper criticism,
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Because i do not intend to criticize. is an assessment.
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It's an assessment about who he is.
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I mean, to me, right?
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And i know who is to me, and i know who am i to.
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I mean, he knows about me as well.
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And and truly,
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We had been professionally working beautifully together.
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I was very happy to be nominated by him as deputy
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Director of the mossad. and,
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Head of the national security
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Advisor council, which is a huge job.
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And then the work was done by him again and again and again.
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So there is a lot of trust that had run between us.
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I trust him, he trusted me.
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And that's the only thing i need.
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I mean, i was not
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Looking for a new friend and he was looking forward to
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An ally.
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I mean, to play chess or suspicious, whatever.
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And i that's the way i saw it.
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That's how i saw it.
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So there was a very high level of appreciation to what he is
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And to what he did.
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Nevertheless, i think that the people of israel would go again,
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For another round of a very, very brutal election round.
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And, and he will run again.
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I assume i will not, and let's see what happens.
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He the corollary to that is
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You are somewhat i would, i would argue,
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Unforgiving about everybody that was in charge of israeli
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National security on october 7th.
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You just described, and i think rightly, i do,
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Over the last two years, how he's handled the war since
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It's been stellar.
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I mean, it really is almost miraculously successful.
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But october 7th is the greatest stain on israel.
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You know, i'm sort of and probably you know, and i
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And so i know that's a tension for voters to say it is
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Do we punish netanyahu for his failures
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Not just him alone, but he's the top of the food chain.
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Let's on october 7th.
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Where do we reward him for. let's wait and see.
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I mean, i don't read polls every day,
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Whether there are polls coming out every day.
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And according to the last one i saw him in
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And during to the during the last weekend of ours,
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I mean, beginning of january 2026,
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You see that
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He is going to win the elections again.
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I'm not sure...
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That's that's for me.
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What does he have a that's not a coalition winning.
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I mean that's a kickstart for winning the elections.
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Then some assume that they will not have enough
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Coalition members to form the government.
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Let's wait and see.
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Coming up next on the rosenberg report,
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Does israel's former top spy believe that president trump
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Can broker
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An historic peace treaty between israel and the saudis?
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Or does he believe that october 7th and the bloody, bitter war
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That followed has blown up all hope of normalized action?
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Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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Right after the break.
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Right after the break.
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Welcome back to the rosenberg report.
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However, the showdown
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Between the united states and iran plays out
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One of the most important
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Questions that everybody in the region is asking is this
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Is this the year
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That saudi arabia will join the abraham accords?
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That is, can president trump persuade
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The saudis to sign a peace and normalization agreement
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With israel?
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Or has the moment passed?
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Look, you know him.
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You know mbs, you've met him.
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What's your assessment of mohammed bin salman?
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And do you think
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That the war on october 7th and the war that's happened over
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The last two years has ruined the possibility
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Of an israeli saudi normalization?
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Or do you see it coming in 26 or 2027?
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Well, first, i think that most of the data
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Is quite reasonable...
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Most of this because he had some, some other,
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Let's call him little accidents around the world and still do,
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That are not in line of international relationship.
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Right. and i will not refer to that.
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I mean, more than that,
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But most of the times that i've met with him,
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The only issue was
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Us, the region and israel,
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See that?
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Us i mean, israel, us, israel and the region and the region
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Also israel and him, was very clear.
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He said, i cherish kind of relationship
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With you.
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And we've signed three agreements
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That have led israelis
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Or businessmen from israel to travel into arabia.
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If you want daily, weekly, whatever.
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And to conduct businesses with saudi arabia for a long time now
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That includes,
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These that are, willing for many years
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To go over to, close together, like to make a dinner.
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I mean, to, to have the umbrella in the house.
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So many israeli arabs are traveling into arabia
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With israeli passports and with.
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You do not have any other passports,
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But they go back and forth from jeddah,
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Through among at the time.
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But, he and he opened the, the sky, for like, air india
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Flights to fly over, sort arabia to new delhi from tel aviv.
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And we were expecting also emirates and etihad.
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Right. of course everybody.
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Everyone everyone that crosses i mean the,
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The this region has to cross above saudi arabian.
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They have allowed that that i think shows a big deal.
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It's a big deal that i think shows what they really,
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Truly believe believes about us.
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So i do not see many gaps
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Between us and him today in terms of being israelis.
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And so it is beside the fact that a kind of a reasonable,
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I would say, tactical language has to be said
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About the palestinian story. right? right.
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No one expects really a creation of a palestinian state,
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Next state, because of the filthiest,
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Leadership on the palestinian side.
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I mean, i grant them with leadership.
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It's not leadership. it's nothing. right?
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Abu mazen, mahmoud abbas
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Does not really lead the palestinian story.
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I mean, there are divided from within, judea and samaria.
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Gaza is not theirs anymore for the last 20 years or so.
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So all that has to have another leadership
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On the palestinian story.
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So for us to think about what can we do with the future
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Palestinian state, if at all, right.
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So this has to be i think it lays in the kind of a
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Structured language and sentences
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That can be accepted by him, by us,
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And by the american administration.
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More important is are his relationship
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With america, because now the menu's bigger, right?
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I mean, if in the past he wanted one, 2 or 3, now
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He wanted one, two, three, four, five and six and 5 or 6.
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I need a defense back.
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I need to know that.
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No, you will come have my back.
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I stand by
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In case i sign an agreement with the state of israel.
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But iran would like it.
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So they will come again to attack as they need
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Against aramco with that,
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Very strong iranian attack some years ago.
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And more than that, he wants to have a kind of a,
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I would say autonomous facilities,
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Nuclear facilities for civil purposes,
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Like the others have in the region.
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And these are, on the american
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Bilateral relationship with the through the arabia to conduct.
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Israel cannot do much here.
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I then ask yossi cohen if he thinks that the saudis
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Are more interested
00:26:11.363 --> 00:26:12.431
In making a big peace and normalization deal
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With israel under president trump,
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Rather than wait to see who will be elected after trump.
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I can't say that with a super high level of determination,
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But i can guess a peace treaty with short arabia will happen.
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And that is our show for tonight.
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Thank you so much for watching.
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Look, please keep
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Praying for president trump, for iran, for israel,
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And for everyone who lives in the tel aviv to tehran corridor,
00:26:39.591 --> 00:26:43.595
One of the most dangerous places on the planet at the moment.
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Have a great weekend.
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As you walk with the lord jesus christ
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And the power of the holy spirit.
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Spending time in the word, in prayer, in worship,
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And in fellowship with other believers.
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May god bless you as you love your neighbor.
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Care for the poor and needy.
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For widows and orphans as you share your faith in
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Jesus christ who don't yet know him.
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As you make disciples of all nations
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And keep praying faithfully for the peace of jerusalem,
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For israel and her neighbors.
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Have a wonderful week with your family and friends,
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And lord willing.
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I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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