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Joel Rosenberg: Will Israel Get a New Prime Minister? | The Rosenberg Report

July 30, 2025 | 28:40

Joel Rosenberg: Will Israel Get a New Prime Minister? | The Rosenberg Report
Joel Rosenberg sits down for an exclusive interview with former Prime Minister of Israel Naftali Bennett.
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The Rosenberg Report | Joel Rosenberg: Will Israel Get a New Prime Minister? | The Rosenberg Report | July 30, 2025
  • Tonight on the rosenberg report
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  • Former israeli prime minister naftali bennett has tough words
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  • For those trying yet again
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  • To force israel to accept a palestinian state.
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  • They came to murder us.
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  • We're not going to make that mistake again.
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  • How many times? nevertheless, how many times?
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  • European leaders pressure us.
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  • We will not commit suicide.
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  • And tough words for his chief rival, bibi netanyahu.
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  • As the netanyahu government is on the verge of collapse.
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  • Enough is enough.
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  • The current government for
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  • Petty political reasons,
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  • Is allowing a huge portion of israel, the ultra-orthodox.
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  • My brothers, i love them. my brothers and sisters,
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  • I love them. but they need to work.
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  • They need to pay taxes and they need to serve in the idf.
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  • Amidst a high stakes summer.
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  • Part two of our exclusive interview
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  • With israel's once and possibly future prime minister,
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  • Naftali bennett.
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  • Tonight on the rosenberg report.
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  • Are israelis going to early elections?
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  • With his poll numbers plunging in his coalition in crisis?
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  • Will prime minister netanyahu even run again
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  • And even if he does, mighty get replaced by his chief
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  • Rival, former prime minister naftali bennett?
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  • Good evening, and welcome to the rosenberg report.
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  • We're in denver this week.
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  • I've been traveling all over the country,
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  • But we're here now for board meetings, for the joshua fund,
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  • Visits with family and friends,
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  • And meetings with other evangelical leaders.
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  • Wow. there's been a lot going on
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  • As i've been traveling and speaking around the country.
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  • But i want to focus tonight
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  • Just before we get to the interview with bennett.
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  • And the big news
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  • And that is that the government of prime minister
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  • Netanyahu is in real danger, in danger of collapsing. why?
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  • Well, two ultra-orthodox parties who are longtime
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  • Allies of bibi are furious with him and have just quit
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  • His coalition.
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  • The reason they don't want their kids to be drafted
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  • Into the israeli military. that's right.
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  • For years, these ultra-orthodox parties have absolutely refused
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  • To send their kids to the idf.
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  • And for years, netanyahu
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  • And other prime ministers have let them get away with it.
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  • But last year,
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  • The supreme court in israel ruled this was illegal.
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  • Every able bodied israeli 18 and up has to serve.
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  • So netanyahu and his team started drafting ultra-orthodox
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  • Men into the idf, and the rabbis went ballistic.
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  • For months now, they've been threatening
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  • To quit bibi's government.
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  • Now they've really done it, bringing the total number
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  • Of knesset members in bibi's government
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  • Those aligned with him down to just 50.
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  • That's right. just 50.
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  • When bibi actually needs 61 to keep the majority
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  • And stay in power.
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  • Now, as it happens, the knesset,
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  • The israeli parliament, has just begun its summer break.
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  • They don't come back into
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  • Session until october after the high holidays,
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  • And the government can't be brought down in israel
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  • When the knesset is not in session.
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  • So bibi actually
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  • Has three months to cut a deal and get these two parties
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  • Back on his team.
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  • Or we go to early elections this fall.
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  • Now, i have to tell you that to me, this is absolutely crazy.
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  • The that the ultra-orthodox rabbis refuse
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  • To have their kids serve in the army.
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  • When israel's fighting the longest
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  • And most painful war in our modern history.
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  • You know, i have four sons,
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  • And two of them have already served in the idf.
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  • And our youngest was just drafted on may 4th
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  • And is currently serving in a combat unit.
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  • We're all in as a family,
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  • As are all evangelical israelis and messianic jews in israel.
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  • And so i have to tell you, i'm a little upset.
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  • Not just a little, but it's not just me.
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  • Polls show that the vast majority of israelis
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  • Are demanding
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  • That the ultra-orthodox serve, that they don't get a pass.
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  • And that puts netanyahu in a bind.
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  • If he strikes a deal
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  • To exempt these ultra-orthodox kids from the idf.
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  • His poll numbers are going to drop further.
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  • But if he doesn't strike a deal,
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  • His government will very likely collapse in october.
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  • All of this is happening while fighting is raging on in
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  • Gaza, and netanyahu is preparing to mobilize even more
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  • Idf reservists to launch an even more aggressive
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  • Fighting campaign in gaza to rescue the hostages
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  • And finish off hamas once and for all.
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  • And it's all happening.
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  • While this man, former israeli prime minister naftali bennett,
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  • Who's the most popular politician in israel
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  • And would likely
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  • Be the next prime minister when elections are held.
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  • It's all happening while he's gearing up to run again.
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  • Now, tonight, we're going to show you part
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  • Two of my interview with him, filmed at his home
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  • A few weeks ago before i left israel.
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  • I asked him how he, a former special forces commander
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  • And a devout orthodox jew, a religious jew himself.
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  • How does he view
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  • This white hot controversy with the ultra-orthodox?
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  • I ask him,
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  • What is his vision
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  • For expanding the abraham accords and making peace
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  • With the saudis?
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  • When the saudis,
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  • Along with the french, are now demanding the establishment
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  • Of a palestinian state, and soon,
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  • Which bennett says he'll never accept.
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  • So how is he going to thread that needle?
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  • And why is bennett working so hard to reach out
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  • To evangelical christians over the past year or so?
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  • And would he appoint the first ever israeli ambassador
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  • To the christian world
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  • If he becomes prime minister again?
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  • We got a lot to talk to him about. let's get right to it.
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  • Part two of my exclusive conversation
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  • With the once and possibly future prime minister of israel,
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  • Naftali bennett.
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  • I want to talk to you
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  • About your relationship with evangelical christians.
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  • First of all, i appreciate that you've
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  • Come on the rosenberg report a number of times now.
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  • You spoke at
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  • An evangelical event that i organized in california.
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  • You also with my encouragement, but i didn't know
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  • If you were going to really say yes to it was,
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  • Liberty university.
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  • It asked me, might i probably, bennett,
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  • Ever be willing to speak to our our students?
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  • And and you did.
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  • I think it was november 1st of last year.
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  • Well, why are you reaching out to evangelicals?
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  • And what was that experience at liberty university like?
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  • That's like
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  • 10 or 12,000 students that you had a chance to speak to.
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  • So, yeah.
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  • What's going on with you and and us?
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  • I think we have a special bond.
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  • The jewish people and the evangelicals.
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  • Because, in understanding that the the jewish state
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  • That has to thrive and that in many ways,
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  • You know, it's my belief that we're fulfilling the,
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  • The promises of the tenets of the bible.
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  • It's quite remarkable if you think about it.
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  • I mean, the only other nation in history
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  • That was, expelled from its homeland.
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  • And for 2000 years, we were dispersed all around
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  • The world and came back and rebuilt our third,
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  • Commonwealth here.
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  • We had the first temple. the second temple.
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  • I view this is as our third state.
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  • And it's beautiful.
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  • And knowing that, all of you
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  • Are praying for us and care for us and fight for us.
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  • It means the world to me.
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  • Why did you say yes to the liberty university?
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  • That was really about what?
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  • What an experience. that you had never been there before.
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  • This is your. first time i've been to you.
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  • Know, i don't think any israeli prime minister,
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  • Current or former, has ever spoken.
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  • I mean, the stadium was packed, with, you know,
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  • I felt the love in the air, the love for the
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  • For the jewish state, for the state of israel.
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  • And i felt that we share, common values of liberty,
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  • Of fighting for good against evil.
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  • And, and, you know, while
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  • We're thousands of kilometers away.
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  • I think it matters.
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  • And i want to thank the folks at liberty university
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  • And all the evangelicals.
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  • They loved you.
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  • I heard many, many good things.
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  • I thought it was. a very good experience. for me.
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  • Well, i'm so glad.
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  • As you share with evangelicals on this show,
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  • What do you need from us?
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  • How can we be more helpful than we have been?
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  • Well. first of all, we've been.
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  • You've been great.
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  • I would say, a couple of things.
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  • First of all,
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  • Anyone who can come and visit israel, come, come be with us.
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  • Come.
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  • Strengthen us.
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  • Be here a visit here for a week or two.
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  • It's a beautiful country.
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  • Pretty small.
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  • You know, some people, sometimes imagine the jordan river
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  • As some huge river, and then it's.
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  • It's this tiny little stream that you can barely see.
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  • But it is the jordan river.
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  • And secondly, speak up for us.
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  • Because the barrage of lies that's being hurled
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  • Towards the, the, state of israel, it's just,
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  • You know, we need we need other people
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  • With us to hit the ball and hit it back.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Certainly with the rosenberg report.
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  • We're trying to do that with tbn,
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  • All israel news, our digital
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  • Platform and our organization, the joshua fund.
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  • Thank you.
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  • And, i think
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  • I think that more evangelical leaders as they start coming
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  • And i just was on a month long speaking tour.
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  • I spoke to a pastors
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  • Conference of 1600 pastors in philadelphia.
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  • They were from all over the east coast of the united states,
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  • And more and more of them, as i share with them.
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  • Yes, i think it's time to start
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  • Thinking about even in small groups.
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  • You know, with missiles
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  • Coming from yemen, sometimes people think,
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  • I don't know where i want to bring 600 people.
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  • Okay.
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  • Bring 50, bring one bus and just come as leaders.
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  • Would you be interested in meeting
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  • Some of those evangelical leaders?
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  • I know you can't meet every single person
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  • That comes to the country. oh, yeah, definitely.
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  • I engage with them.
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  • You know, i think that, it's,
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  • It's such a deep alliance
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  • Between the evangelical community,
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  • Especially in the united states and the state of israel.
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  • And, you guys are strong.
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  • You have power.
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  • You have an ability to influence,
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  • You know, how things develop.
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  • And so, yes, we're very appreciative.
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  • I'm very appreciative of,
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  • Of the warm support, by the way, of your own, joel, and,
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  • Your network and, everything that you're doing.
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  • Thank you. i appreciate it very much.
  • 00:10:36.826 --> 00:10:39.028
  • And, you know, i,
  • 00:10:39.028 --> 00:10:39.929
  • I have a relationship with netanyahu,
  • 00:10:39.929 --> 00:10:41.464
  • And i have a relationship with yair lapid
  • 00:10:41.464 --> 00:10:43.165
  • And all the guys, and we're trying to get people diverse.
  • 00:10:43.165 --> 00:10:45.768
  • You know. i'm not going to trash. i'm not a partizan.
  • 00:10:45.768 --> 00:10:48.037
  • I'm trying to hear what i want to do.
  • 00:10:48.037 --> 00:10:50.339
  • My view of media journalism is
  • 00:10:50.339 --> 00:10:54.076
  • I would i would liken it to american football.
  • 00:10:54.076 --> 00:10:55.945
  • You grew up in america for a while.
  • 00:10:55.945 --> 00:10:57.880
  • You know, i don't mind.
  • 00:10:57.880 --> 00:10:59.048
  • So my my team are the pittsburgh steelers.
  • 00:10:59.048 --> 00:11:01.117
  • My wife's family is originally
  • 00:11:01.117 --> 00:11:02.418
  • From pittsburgh, so we love the steelers.
  • 00:11:02.418 --> 00:11:04.186
  • I don't mind if the guys in the booth
  • 00:11:04.186 --> 00:11:06.155
  • Trash the steelers on
  • 00:11:06.155 --> 00:11:07.356
  • Any given play or game,
  • 00:11:07.356 --> 00:11:08.924
  • Because they're doing a lousy job, right?
  • 00:11:08.924 --> 00:11:11.160
  • But i don't want to think
  • 00:11:11.160 --> 00:11:12.027
  • That the guys in the booth
  • 00:11:12.027 --> 00:11:13.195
  • Hate the steelers and want them to burn in hell, right?
  • 00:11:13.195 --> 00:11:15.765
  • And a lot of journalism these days is that, you know,
  • 00:11:15.765 --> 00:11:19.301
  • Netanyahu, you when you were the prime minister or whatever,
  • 00:11:19.301 --> 00:11:22.571
  • Lapid, when he was prime,
  • 00:11:22.571 --> 00:11:24.173
  • You know, there's there's a deep, deep enmity.
  • 00:11:24.173 --> 00:11:27.443
  • The journalists, which are supposed to be
  • 00:11:27.443 --> 00:11:28.744
  • Reporting the facts.
  • 00:11:28.744 --> 00:11:29.912
  • That's why i'm trying to engage with you and the others.
  • 00:11:29.912 --> 00:11:31.981
  • Let them let you guys make your case and let people,
  • 00:11:31.981 --> 00:11:35.017
  • You know, pray for you first of all, but also,
  • 00:11:35.017 --> 00:11:37.620
  • You know, make their own assessments.
  • 00:11:37.620 --> 00:11:38.788
  • But i want to give you the fair shake.
  • 00:11:38.788 --> 00:11:40.222
  • I don't want there to be the sense of
  • 00:11:40.222 --> 00:11:42.391
  • One more thing on this topic of the evangelicals is,
  • 00:11:42.391 --> 00:11:45.361
  • You know, i have been encouraging,
  • 00:11:46.128 --> 00:11:48.330
  • Prime minister netanyahu to appoint an ambassador
  • 00:11:48.330 --> 00:11:51.133
  • And as the first ever ambassador to the christian community,
  • 00:11:51.133 --> 00:11:54.703
  • Something that he said he's going to do.
  • 00:11:54.703 --> 00:11:56.839
  • I think he means well, he certainly is.
  • 00:11:56.839 --> 00:11:58.874
  • Engage evangelicals far more than you or others.
  • 00:11:58.874 --> 00:12:01.677
  • He's been doing a long time,
  • 00:12:01.677 --> 00:12:02.978
  • But we haven't seen that ambassador appointed.
  • 00:12:02.978 --> 00:12:04.947
  • I have talked to my friend saar, mutual friend of ours
  • 00:12:04.947 --> 00:12:08.818
  • He's supportive of it, but there's a lot on
  • 00:12:08.818 --> 00:12:10.786
  • These guys place.
  • 00:12:10.786 --> 00:12:11.654
  • But it just keeps going on.
  • 00:12:11.654 --> 00:12:12.955
  • We don't see it.
  • 00:12:12.955 --> 00:12:14.623
  • I don't want to be too critical,
  • 00:12:14.623 --> 00:12:16.959
  • But on the other hand, i think i think israel
  • 00:12:16.959 --> 00:12:18.928
  • Needs an ambassador. this is their mission.
  • 00:12:18.928 --> 00:12:21.063
  • This is their portfolio.
  • 00:12:21.063 --> 00:12:22.464
  • I think every ambassador has
  • 00:12:22.464 --> 00:12:23.799
  • To have it as part of their portfolio. that's right.
  • 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:25.968
  • Esp in the united states, yechiel leiter is a good man.
  • 00:12:25.968 --> 00:12:28.604
  • Would you
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  • If you became the prime minister again,
  • 00:12:30.206 --> 00:12:32.374
  • Would you commit to appointing an actual
  • 00:12:32.374 --> 00:12:35.845
  • Israeli ambassador?
  • 00:12:36.312 --> 00:12:37.379
  • Yeah, i believe so.
  • 00:12:37.379 --> 00:12:38.247
  • I think it's a great idea.
  • 00:12:38.247 --> 00:12:40.349
  • Why would be.
  • 00:12:40.349 --> 00:12:41.217
  • What would be your reason to do it?
  • 00:12:41.217 --> 00:12:42.751
  • I have my reasons, but.
  • 00:12:42.751 --> 00:12:43.686
  • Well, well, it's such,
  • 00:12:43.686 --> 00:12:46.322
  • Distinct and strong and meaningful community
  • 00:12:46.322 --> 00:12:49.325
  • That's been helping us so much and,
  • 00:12:49.325 --> 00:12:52.695
  • Share many of the same values that we share.
  • 00:12:52.695 --> 00:12:56.966
  • Why would we not want
  • 00:12:57.466 --> 00:13:00.936
  • To be talking all the time?
  • 00:13:00.936 --> 00:13:04.240
  • Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
  • 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:06.709
  • How would naftali bennett make peace with the saudis
  • 00:13:06.709 --> 00:13:09.578
  • If riyadh is demanding a palestinian state?
  • 00:13:09.578 --> 00:13:12.848
  • Is that even possible?
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  • Don't miss bennett's fascinating and forceful answer when the
  • 00:13:14.750 --> 00:13:18.053
  • Rosenberg report continues on tbn right after this break.
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  • Rosenberg report continues on tbn right after this break.
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  • You are the leading
  • 00:13:28.926 --> 00:13:31.095
  • Potential candidate you haven't announced.
  • 00:13:31.095 --> 00:13:33.130
  • We're pressing you, but you're not ready to say it.
  • 00:13:33.130 --> 00:13:35.099
  • You have put together a political party.
  • 00:13:35.099 --> 00:13:36.533
  • You're leading in every poll for more than a year.
  • 00:13:36.533 --> 00:13:39.536
  • Significantly, if you put together a party,
  • 00:13:39.536 --> 00:13:42.106
  • Formally announce,
  • 00:13:42.106 --> 00:13:43.574
  • And the elections are held any time in the near future.
  • 00:13:43.574 --> 00:13:46.076
  • It looks like you would be the next prime minister of israel.
  • 00:13:46.076 --> 00:13:48.112
  • So that's why people need to get to know you.
  • 00:13:48.112 --> 00:13:50.748
  • Let's talk beyond that now.
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  • What is your vision for
  • 00:13:52.283 --> 00:13:54.952
  • Israel and the region
  • 00:13:54.952 --> 00:13:57.221
  • In a world in which the iran threat nuclear
  • 00:13:57.221 --> 00:14:01.458
  • Missile and terror has been neutralized,
  • 00:14:01.458 --> 00:14:04.895
  • And now we're looking at something
  • 00:14:04.895 --> 00:14:07.197
  • Very, very different than than israel has ever known before.
  • 00:14:07.197 --> 00:14:10.467
  • What does that vision of yours.
  • 00:14:10.467 --> 00:14:12.069
  • It's a vision of, amazing peace and prosperity between us
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  • And the the moderate arab states.
  • 00:14:17.374 --> 00:14:21.245
  • We could be doing amazing things together.
  • 00:14:21.245 --> 00:14:24.581
  • We have a wonderful relationship with the emirates.
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  • With bahrain.
  • 00:14:28.319 --> 00:14:29.486
  • We have a relationship
  • 00:14:29.486 --> 00:14:30.621
  • With egypt and jordan, which is a bit cooler, lately.
  • 00:14:30.621 --> 00:14:34.625
  • But i think that once iran is taken out of the equation,
  • 00:14:34.625 --> 00:14:38.329
  • We could cut a deal.
  • 00:14:38.796 --> 00:14:40.030
  • And, and have peace with the saudis.
  • 00:14:40.030 --> 00:14:42.499
  • And that would in turn cascade
  • 00:14:42.499 --> 00:14:44.768
  • To most of the muslim world, because saudi arabia is the,
  • 00:14:44.768 --> 00:14:49.406
  • Centerpiece of islam and mecca and medina.
  • 00:14:49.406 --> 00:14:52.676
  • So it would be amazing.
  • 00:14:52.676 --> 00:14:55.245
  • You know, in my previous life, i was a businessperson, a,
  • 00:14:55.245 --> 00:14:59.016
  • An entrepreneur twice and high tech
  • 00:14:59.016 --> 00:15:01.218
  • And i think very successful.
  • 00:15:01.218 --> 00:15:02.353
  • I mean, selling companies for hundreds and
  • 00:15:02.353 --> 00:15:04.288
  • Hundreds of millions of dollars. thank you. yeah.
  • 00:15:04.288 --> 00:15:06.957
  • That's that's how we can be here right now.
  • 00:15:06.957 --> 00:15:09.593
  • And what i would strive to do is synergy.
  • 00:15:09.593 --> 00:15:14.231
  • Synergy between us and our neighbors,
  • 00:15:14.231 --> 00:15:17.468
  • Bringing our high tech knowledge, bringing their,
  • 00:15:17.468 --> 00:15:21.438
  • Capabilities and execution and energy, etc..
  • 00:15:21.438 --> 00:15:25.509
  • We could be really, building a beautiful region here.
  • 00:15:25.509 --> 00:15:29.046
  • I agree with that. and as you know,
  • 00:15:29.046 --> 00:15:31.081
  • I'm one of the few israelis who's ever actually
  • 00:15:31.982 --> 00:15:34.051
  • Met crown prince mohammed bin salman twice.
  • 00:15:34.051 --> 00:15:37.087
  • Once in riyadh, once in jeddah.
  • 00:15:37.087 --> 00:15:38.822
  • And i think the only israeli who's ever been photographed
  • 00:15:38.822 --> 00:15:42.259
  • Meeting with him.
  • 00:15:42.259 --> 00:15:43.460
  • My perception from those trips is that
  • 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:45.496
  • And this was pre october 7th war, was that the crown prince
  • 00:15:45.496 --> 00:15:49.466
  • And his leadership were moving
  • 00:15:49.466 --> 00:15:53.037
  • Pretty steadily toward making peace with israel
  • 00:15:53.037 --> 00:15:55.706
  • And wanting to have an integrated region.
  • 00:15:55.706 --> 00:15:58.575
  • I'm wondering and i'm curious what your take,
  • 00:15:58.575 --> 00:16:00.978
  • If you think that the crown prince of saudi arabia
  • 00:16:00.978 --> 00:16:05.082
  • Could make a deal with netanyahu,
  • 00:16:05.082 --> 00:16:08.986
  • Given that the entire region has sees netanyahu
  • 00:16:08.986 --> 00:16:13.357
  • As so integrated with the october 7th war,
  • 00:16:13.357 --> 00:16:15.793
  • And that and the, all the fighting and killing in gaza.
  • 00:16:15.793 --> 00:16:19.863
  • I'm not saying netanyahu was wrong to fight this war.
  • 00:16:19.863 --> 00:16:22.199
  • I'm saying,
  • 00:16:22.199 --> 00:16:23.434
  • Is it more difficult for the saudis now to make of a deal
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  • With someone who has become a pariah in many ways,
  • 00:16:27.538 --> 00:16:31.442
  • Even among the moderate arabs who liked working with him and
  • 00:16:31.442 --> 00:16:36.080
  • And were willing to make those deals
  • 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:37.648
  • The uae, the bahrainis, the moroccans and others.
  • 00:16:37.648 --> 00:16:40.184
  • But what's your sense of,
  • 00:16:40.184 --> 00:16:42.753
  • I mean, are you are you better able to do that, or is that
  • 00:16:42.753 --> 00:16:46.457
  • Or is it go to basically just core national interests
  • 00:16:46.457 --> 00:16:49.159
  • And either the saudis are going to do it or they're not,
  • 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.261
  • Because they're
  • 00:16:51.261 --> 00:16:52.296
  • Making a lot of noise right now that they're not
  • 00:16:52.296 --> 00:16:54.264
  • They're not ready.
  • 00:16:54.264 --> 00:16:55.032
  • They're in fact, they're it seems
  • 00:16:55.032 --> 00:16:56.066
  • It seems like they're further from being ready
  • 00:16:56.066 --> 00:16:58.769
  • Than before.
  • 00:16:58.769 --> 00:16:59.403
  • October of there
  • 00:16:59.403 --> 00:17:00.571
  • Has been, unfortunately, some regression in the process.
  • 00:17:00.571 --> 00:17:03.507
  • So we've, seen them, take, a couple of steps back.
  • 00:17:03.507 --> 00:17:08.345
  • I think, together with america, and the leadership of,
  • 00:17:08.345 --> 00:17:12.449
  • President trump, i think, we could get,
  • 00:17:12.449 --> 00:17:16.053
  • A normalization and hopefully a peace deal, made.
  • 00:17:17.087 --> 00:17:20.157
  • I'm not sure if it'll happen tomorrow.
  • 00:17:20.157 --> 00:17:22.793
  • But i think new leadership in israel, would definitely
  • 00:17:22.793 --> 00:17:26.363
  • Be a good news for israel, for the region, for the world.
  • 00:17:26.363 --> 00:17:29.666
  • Now, one of the things
  • 00:17:30.134 --> 00:17:31.001
  • The saudis are saying, and this goes to
  • 00:17:31.001 --> 00:17:32.569
  • My question to you about vision, the saudis are seeming to
  • 00:17:32.569 --> 00:17:36.940
  • Harden.
  • 00:17:37.174 --> 00:17:38.475
  • I'm not sure if that's the right word, but
  • 00:17:38.475 --> 00:17:40.677
  • I will use it
  • 00:17:40.677 --> 00:17:41.612
  • Seems, to harden their position
  • 00:17:41.612 --> 00:17:42.913
  • That a palestinian state is an absolute essential.
  • 00:17:42.913 --> 00:17:45.716
  • The saudis and the french
  • 00:17:45.716 --> 00:17:48.051
  • Are holding a summit in new york at the u.n.,
  • 00:17:48.051 --> 00:17:50.487
  • With the palestinian leadership clearing the final pathway
  • 00:17:50.487 --> 00:17:53.457
  • To announcing a palestinian state.
  • 00:17:53.457 --> 00:17:56.260
  • You were criticized pretty harshly in recent days
  • 00:17:56.260 --> 00:17:59.096
  • By your political opponents,
  • 00:17:59.096 --> 00:18:00.864
  • Who claimed that you were opening the doorway six,
  • 00:18:00.864 --> 00:18:04.434
  • Eight years to the possibility of a palestinian state.
  • 00:18:04.434 --> 00:18:07.237
  • What is your position on a palestinian state?
  • 00:18:07.237 --> 00:18:10.474
  • And how does that integrate with your vision of trying
  • 00:18:11.575 --> 00:18:14.011
  • To make peace with the saudis?
  • 00:18:14.011 --> 00:18:15.112
  • Because i think you're against the palestinians state.
  • 00:18:15.112 --> 00:18:17.414
  • I'm fed up with this obsession, especially coming from europe,
  • 00:18:17.414 --> 00:18:22.486
  • To impose on israel another palestinian state
  • 00:18:22.486 --> 00:18:26.590
  • That would terrorize tel aviv, run on
  • 00:18:26.590 --> 00:18:29.126
  • Of where we are right now.
  • 00:18:29.126 --> 00:18:30.394
  • We are about ten minutes away from the that's supposed
  • 00:18:30.394 --> 00:18:34.131
  • Palestinian state.
  • 00:18:34.131 --> 00:18:35.199
  • And i'm asking macron or any world labor leader,
  • 00:18:35.199 --> 00:18:38.468
  • Are you willing to live ten minutes away from radical islam?
  • 00:18:38.468 --> 00:18:42.639
  • Stop it. cut it out.
  • 00:18:42.639 --> 00:18:44.641
  • That's enough.
  • 00:18:44.641 --> 00:18:45.676
  • You know,
  • 00:18:45.676 --> 00:18:46.877
  • We gave a palestinian state to the palestinians in gaza
  • 00:18:46.877 --> 00:18:49.713
  • Back in 2005.
  • 00:18:49.713 --> 00:18:51.381
  • We pulled out all the out of all of gaza.
  • 00:18:51.381 --> 00:18:53.817
  • We pulled out our soldiers,
  • 00:18:53.817 --> 00:18:55.185
  • Pulled out all the citizen by force, expelled
  • 00:18:55.185 --> 00:18:57.821
  • All the jews there.
  • 00:18:57.821 --> 00:18:58.989
  • We handed the entire land, the 1949
  • 00:18:58.989 --> 00:19:02.993
  • Borders to the palestinians.
  • 00:19:02.993 --> 00:19:05.229
  • And they turned it
  • 00:19:05.229 --> 00:19:06.897
  • Into a terror state, and they came to murder us.
  • 00:19:06.897 --> 00:19:10.467
  • We're not going to make that mistake again.
  • 00:19:10.467 --> 00:19:12.836
  • How many times?
  • 00:19:12.836 --> 00:19:13.837
  • Nevertheless, how many times?
  • 00:19:13.837 --> 00:19:16.106
  • European leaders pressure us.
  • 00:19:16.106 --> 00:19:17.608
  • We will not commit suicide.
  • 00:19:17.608 --> 00:19:20.244
  • Not under my leadership.
  • 00:19:20.244 --> 00:19:22.212
  • I agree with you,
  • 00:19:22.646 --> 00:19:24.948
  • But i'm not the crown prince of saudi arabia.
  • 00:19:24.948 --> 00:19:27.651
  • So how do you thread that needle?
  • 00:19:27.651 --> 00:19:30.387
  • What is the
  • 00:19:30.387 --> 00:19:32.656
  • What is the way forward, in gaza and, you know,
  • 00:19:32.656 --> 00:19:36.960
  • Mahmoud abbas, the president of the authorities,
  • 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.963
  • I think in 19 years into his four year term.
  • 00:19:39.963 --> 00:19:43.233
  • 80% of palestinians say that abbas should step down.
  • 00:19:43.233 --> 00:19:48.071
  • So what's the what is what is your vision
  • 00:19:48.071 --> 00:19:52.009
  • Of how israel should interact with palestinians and how you
  • 00:19:52.009 --> 00:19:56.480
  • How you will,
  • 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:57.214
  • You know,
  • 00:19:57.214 --> 00:19:58.248
  • Help me understand what the conversation with you
  • 00:19:58.248 --> 00:20:00.083
  • And the crown prince of saudi arabia would be to say, look,
  • 00:20:00.083 --> 00:20:02.953
  • There are things we need from each other
  • 00:20:02.953 --> 00:20:04.354
  • And want from each other and can do together.
  • 00:20:04.354 --> 00:20:06.390
  • But this isn't one of them.
  • 00:20:06.390 --> 00:20:07.457
  • I think that's what you're saying.
  • 00:20:07.457 --> 00:20:08.492
  • We could.
  • 00:20:08.492 --> 00:20:09.259
  • I'm telling you that,
  • 00:20:09.259 --> 00:20:10.927
  • If we sit together, we could cut a deal of normalization
  • 00:20:10.927 --> 00:20:14.965
  • And we could figure out, a path forward with the palestinians.
  • 00:20:14.965 --> 00:20:19.002
  • And it's a very simple formula.
  • 00:20:19.002 --> 00:20:22.739
  • Maximum security for israelis, maximum
  • 00:20:22.739 --> 00:20:26.243
  • Dignity and freedom for the palestinians.
  • 00:20:26.243 --> 00:20:29.146
  • We don't want to govern them.
  • 00:20:29.146 --> 00:20:30.447
  • I don't want to govern them.
  • 00:20:30.447 --> 00:20:31.715
  • We're not governing them.
  • 00:20:31.715 --> 00:20:33.016
  • They have their own government,
  • 00:20:33.016 --> 00:20:34.084
  • Their own, territory that they govern.
  • 00:20:34.084 --> 00:20:37.287
  • They take their own taxes, their own sewage system,
  • 00:20:37.287 --> 00:20:40.290
  • Their own education system, which, by the way,
  • 00:20:40.290 --> 00:20:42.693
  • They use it to incite against jews.
  • 00:20:42.693 --> 00:20:45.462
  • But maximum security, maximum dignity and freedom.
  • 00:20:45.462 --> 00:20:49.666
  • And we could figure it out.
  • 00:20:50.267 --> 00:20:51.735
  • That will not be a block,
  • 00:20:51.735 --> 00:20:54.538
  • Towards peace with the saudis.
  • 00:20:54.538 --> 00:20:58.008
  • Coming up next on the rosenberg report.
  • 00:20:58.008 --> 00:21:00.477
  • Why does naftali bennett sense blood in the water?
  • 00:21:00.477 --> 00:21:03.347
  • As two ultra-orthodox parties quit the netanyahu government?
  • 00:21:03.347 --> 00:21:07.351
  • And how does bennett
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  • Turn to the bible to make the case
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  • That all israelis must serve in the military?
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  • Find out when the rosenberg report continues on tbn
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  • Right after this break.
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  • Right after this break.
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  • You served in a
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  • In the most elite special forces unit.
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  • You've got a son.
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  • Your oldest son is currently serving in the military.
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  • My youngest son has just gotten drafted in the idf. wow.
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  • Just about a month ago. his name.
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  • Noah. noah? yeah. so many hashem.
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  • Take care of them.
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  • And, and his friends and, would should be very proud.
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  • I am. i mean, yours is yonatan.
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  • Is that the one? yoni is the only that's serving.
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  • So. amen.
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  • Look,
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  • Evangelicals, evangelical israelis,
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  • We call...
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  • We answer the call to duty.
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  • Messianic jews. answer the call of duty.
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  • It doesn't matter which government is in power.
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  • There's a state.
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  • We're part of it.
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  • And we believe that we need to serve.
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  • And there are,
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  • There are believers in yeshua
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  • That have
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  • Continue to fight about a thousand of them
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  • In the army over the last over the course of the war,
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  • And some have have died in the in the course of the war.
  • 00:22:21.362 --> 00:22:24.265
  • But there's a huge tension right
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  • Now, a huge political tension
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  • That could end up unraveling in theory.
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  • The netanyahu government,
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  • But set the politics of that part aside.
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  • But there are ultra-orthodox
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  • Leaders who are saying, absolutely not.
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  • Almost.
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  • I hate to say this on christian television,
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  • And i'll bleep it out if i have to,
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  • But hell no, we won't go like that's the old left in the 60s.
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  • We're not going to vietnam.
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  • These are israeli citizen, jewish
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  • Ultra-orthodox jews
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  • Who say we won't serve
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  • In the time of being attacked on seven different fronts.
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  • You and i talked about this a year ago, and
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  • You were very forceful about.
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  • You don't see anything in the bible
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  • That says that a person who believes in the bible
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  • Believes in god, loves god, shouldn't defend the country.
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  • That goes against everything that we believe. but.
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  • But what in the world is happening
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  • That this is a huge political force
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  • And it's it is almost seem
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  • To have the netanyahu government in a grip where they won't
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  • Demand that everybody serve.
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  • It's not it's not a choice.
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  • It's a responsibility,
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  • Especially in wartime.
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  • So i'm, i'm going on, on a little bit of a rant,
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  • But i know it's, but i want to get your take on this
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  • Because you're religious.
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  • You're the you're the only religious jewish person
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  • Has ever served in the modern history of israel.
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  • So as prime minister, so what is your take?
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  • For those who didn't see our conversation a year ago.
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  • I cannot imagine a more sacred,
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  • Duty and privilege
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  • Than to defend the jewish state.
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  • To as a fighter.
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  • As a soldier.
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  • The jews had here,
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  • A state 2000 years ago, and it was destroyed by the romans.
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  • And we were dispersed.
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  • And then for 2000 years, we did not have a state.
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  • We were small communities, very vulnerable.
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  • I'd almost say very weak.
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  • We had no ability to defend ourselves.
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  • And, we went through pogroms.
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  • The epitome was the shoah. the holocaust.
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  • And now we have a state.
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  • I have something that my grandparents, my great
  • 00:24:21.348 --> 00:24:24.084
  • Grandparents, that both of them were murdered by the nazis.
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  • They didn't have
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  • They didn't have the ability to defend themselves.
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  • So why would you come to the state of israel
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  • And not want to serve and defend your beautiful country?
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  • This goes against everything that in judaism, all our heroes.
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  • Abraham was a fighter.
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  • Yeah, jacob was a fighter.
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  • Moses was a fighter.
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  • Joshua was a fighter.
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  • Gideon was a fighter.
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  • King david was a fighter. saul was a fighter.
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  • Jonathan was a fighter.
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  • That those are the biggest heroes of the bible.
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  • The tanakh.
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  • And now, on behalf of judaism, you're claiming that
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  • You shouldn't fight and let others go and risk their lives.
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  • This is unacceptable.
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  • Enough is enough.
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  • The current government for
  • 00:25:14.001 --> 00:25:15.836
  • Petty political reasons,
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  • Is allowing a huge portion of israel, the ultra-orthodox.
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  • My brothers, i love them. my brothers and sisters,
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  • I love them. but they need to work.
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  • They need to pay taxes and they need to serve in the idf.
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  • Enough is enough. amen.
  • 00:25:31.852 --> 00:25:33.954
  • Well, i'm very grateful to naftali bennett
  • 00:25:33.954 --> 00:25:35.856
  • For spending so much time with me and the rosenberg report.
  • 00:25:35.856 --> 00:25:38.859
  • And i want to be clear, i don't take a position
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  • On who should be the next prime minister of israel,
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  • Whether it should be bibi netanyahu, naftali bennett
  • 00:25:44.098 --> 00:25:47.267
  • Yair lapid who's also been on this program or others.
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  • That's not my goal.
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  • My goal is to give you evangelical christians
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  • Across the united states and elsewhere,
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  • The opportunity to see these men and take their measure,
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  • Hear from them directly, and make your own evaluations.
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  • I do want you to be praying for all of them,
  • 00:26:03.651 --> 00:26:06.186
  • Even as you pray for total victory in gaza.
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  • An end to this war.
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  • And for mercy for israelis and palestinians
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  • Who've been
  • 00:26:14.395 --> 00:26:15.629
  • So terribly traumatized and wounded by this terrible war.
  • 00:26:15.629 --> 00:26:18.799
  • So i hope this is helpful.
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  • I hope it's encouraging.
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  • And i appreciate you watching tonight.
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  • That is our show for tonight.
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  • I want to encourage you to walk
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  • With the lord jesus christ this week.
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  • Walk in the power of his spirit.
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  • Spend time in his word and in your private devotions.
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  • Spend time going to church
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  • And having fellowship with other believers.
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  • I spend time praying for the peace of jerusalem
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  • And our neighbors.
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  • And, make sure to keep loving your neighbor and your enemies.
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  • And i know that's not easy,
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  • But that's what the lord jesus calls us to do.
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  • Have a great week with you and your family.
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  • And lord willing,
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  • I'll see you next week right here on the rosenberg report.
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