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Sekulow | Jay Sekulow - Unrest in the Middle East | July 2, 2025
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- - welcome to "sekulow."
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- Will haynes, executive producer here today.
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- And we have a jam packed show as iran showcase
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- That they have what appear to be hypersonic missiles
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- That are able to strike deep within the heart of israel,
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- And are very hard to stop.
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- We saw multiple times these rockets,
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- These missiles slam into the heart of tel aviv
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- And other parts of israel causing a lot of destruction,
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- A lot of damage, and they're very hard to stop.
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- They're very fast.
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- It's extremely new technology.
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- It leads to questions of which we will get in today
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- Of how did iran get these very advanced ballistic missiles,
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- While the world has been watching.
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- But then we're also gonna talk about what israel has done,
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- Because israel has been carrying out missions,
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- Both it seems, on the ground in tehran with mossad,
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- As well as with the idf and the israeli air force.
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- And one thing that they keep doing is taking out top leaders
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- Within the iranian regime.
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- These are people that are responsible for the plans,
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- The strategic implementation of these attacks on israel.
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- And just now, we've learned that a new strike
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- Has eliminated the head of intelligence
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- For the iranian revolutionary guard corps, his deputy,
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- The head of the quds force intelligence directorate,
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- And his deputy.
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- These are the top four iranian intelligence officials
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- That israel has now taken out.
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- They will no longer be able to sow their terror
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- Across the middle east in the world and target israel,
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- Whether through proxies, through funding of those proxies,
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- Supplying weaponry, or directing those proxies
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- To attack israel, as well as during this very war.
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- Their intelligence capabilities are now a lot less strong
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- Than they thought they were.
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- And we're gonna see how israel continues as they continue
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- With this massive intelligence operation
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- To strike at the very heart
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- Of not just iran's nuclear program,
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- But their ability to wage terror
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- Across the middle east and the world.
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- It's astounding to watch.
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- It is very impressive, but the fight isn't over.
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- And we already know that the iaea,
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- The un's atomic energy organization is condemning israel
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- For their strike on iran's nuclear capabilities.
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- We know that the icc is probably already figuring out
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- How to go after israel for war crimes,
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- And the aclj is here to fight back.
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- - welcome back to "sekulow."
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- Executive producer will haynes hosting today.
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- And i'm now joined by chris mitchell,
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- Who is the cbn news bureau chief in jerusalem.
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- And chris, we've had you on this broadcast for many years,
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- And i feel like this conflict is a little different
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- Than ones we've had you on before.
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- What's your sense on the ground
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- Of how it's playing out in israel and what you're seeing?
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- - will, great to be with you.
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- I think this is much different
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- Than things that we have done in the past.
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- I think we're looking at a historic change
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- Potentially here in the middle east.
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- Obviously, israel has been taking some hits.
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- Yesterday, i was in bat yam,
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- That's where one of the iranian missiles has hit,
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- Destroyed an apartment building.
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- Tragically, nine people died in that,
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- Three children, about 200 injured,
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- About 75 buildings that were damage to some extent.
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- But what began when,
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- Early last friday morning really is i would say,
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- I see change in the middle east history with the potential
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- That we may see a regime change in iran,
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- Because of what israel has been doing
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- To not only take out much of the nuclear infrastructure,
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- Air defenses, ballistic missiles,
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- But also targeting much of the headquarters
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- Of some of the irgc, the iranian army,
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- And eliminating just an amazing amount
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- Of senior leaderships in iran.
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- And very reminiscent of what happened with hassan nasrallah
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- With hezbollah.
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- But even on a grander scale,
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- So we're in historic times right now,
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- And some would say even biblical times.
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- - and when you look at what israel
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- Has been able to pull off even just now,
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- And we know that this operation is not over,
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- But what we are seeing is,
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- One, the restraint of the israelis
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- To wait until they felt like it was necessary.
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- The fact, the intelligence gathering, the manufacturing,
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- It appears of drones within tehran,
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- And the coordinated effort between the idf and mossad,
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- And shin bet, and the israeli air force
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- Is something like we've never seen
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- In modern warfare take place.
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- And it really, i think is accredited to the israelis
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- Of their planning and their waiting
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- Until they felt like it was absolutely necessary
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- To carry out such an operation.
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- - the planning has been probably
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- About 20 years in the making, will.
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- The precision and the intelligence
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- That israel has been gathering over the years,
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- And the way that they've been able
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- To infiltrate the iranian leadership.
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- And you know, when they started eliminating
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- Some of the top iranian leaders, they knew where they were.
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- And they not only knew where they were,
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- But they also had the wherewithal, as you said,
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- Some of these drones actually taking in by different parts
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- And then constructed inside tehran,
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- Or different parts of iran.
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- This is just something on a scale.
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- I don't know if any military army has been able to do this
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- With all the intelligence apparatus, as you say,
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- The mossad and the shin bet, putting it all together,
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- And then operating it,
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- And releasing it at just the right time.
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- This is just spectacular what they have been able to do,
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- And continue to do.
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- Even as we speak, the attacks go on.
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- I believe just a few hours ago,
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- They hit the iranian television in tehran as well.
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- And we seeing just the consequences of what's happening.
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- We seeing, you know, thousands and thousands
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- Of people from tehran leaving,
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- And we hear of, you know,
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- The iranian people rising up like they have before.
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- You know, we've seen this before in the sense of maybe 2009,
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- There was a green revolution and then,
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- But that was brutally suppressed again in 2022 and '23,
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- The protests when mahsa amini was killed
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- Just for wearing her hijab in an improper way.
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- But this looks very different, will,
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- That if the people do rise up,
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- It seems like it's a much weaker regime,
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- Much less able to suppress any sort of uprising.
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- We were down at bat yam yesterday,
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- And we interviewed naftali bennett,
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- The former israeli prime minister,
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- And he said, "this is the opportunity for the iranian people
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- To rise up, that the people of the world will be with you."
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- And certainly what israel is doing
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- Is really making it possible, it seems,
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- For the iranian people to finally get the freedom
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- That they have cried out for for 46 years.
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- - well, and as you mentioned, back with the green revolution
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- Under the obama administration,
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- There really was no support from an american government
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- For there to be real change
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- Within the islamic republic of iran.
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- And i feel like it is a different era for many reasons,
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- Obviously, but as we look at what's lays ahead.
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- You see videos coming out of iran of people chanting
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- In support of what israel's doing,
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- And against the ayatollahs and the mullahs in iran.
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- And this is final question here as we look ahead,
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- And we see that they are weakened,
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- We see the intelligence officers being wiped out,
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- The top nuclear scientist, the people within the irgc
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- That have such a grip on the people of iran
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- As they're being taken out.
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- What should we, as the american media consumer
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- That are very engaged and involved with this,
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- What should we be looking for in the days ahead
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- That could maybe show a nod,
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- There could be real change and real regime change in iran?
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- - well just continue to see what's happening
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- On social media.
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- I think we're gonna be seeing more videos
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- Of people crying out for regime change.
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- Keep your eye out on reza pahlavi,
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- Who's the son of the late shah.
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- He's put out a message to the iranian people,
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- And the military in particular, to join the people.
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- That could be a game changer or a tipping point as well.
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- I would say also, hopefully many people are hoping
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- The us would continue to support, even indirectly, israel,
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- And maybe provide those bunker-busting bombs for fordow,
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- Which is a key enrichment facility.
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- And finally, i know a lot of people are saying,
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- Pray for the people of iran,
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- Pray for the protection of israel.
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- Prayer is very, very critical in these tumultuous days.
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- - chris, thank you so much for joining us today.
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- We pray for your safety as you report from jerusalem,
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- As well as for the people of israel
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- And for the people of iran.
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- But thank you for this update,
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- And we will hopefully have you on again soon
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- As we continue to watch what's happening in israel.
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- It's that simple.
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- - executive producer will haynes in the chair today,
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- But i'm joined now by the aclj chief counsel jay sekulow.
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- And we are gonna be talking some about
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- What we're starting to see on the right.
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- We see president trump with strong statements
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- About the iranian program
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- Saying they can never have nuclear weapons.
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- We saw him leave the g7 summit early
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- To get back and meet with the national security council.
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- But we're starting to see some voices on the right
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- That are now saying this could be the end
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- Of president trump's legacy.
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- It could be the end of his presidency.
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- We're seeing aoc retweet republican members of congress.
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- And i just wanted to get your take
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- On what we're starting to see
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- Out of some of the more loud voices on the right.
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- - [jay] well, i wanna be crystal clear on this, will,
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- And i want our audience to understand.
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- First of all, president trump is 100% correct.
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- A nuclear iran is unacceptable, number one.
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- Number two, can't happen.
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- It puts not just the region at risk,
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- But it puts the entire world at risk.
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- For instance, if the iranians thought they could close
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- The strait of hormuz with impunity,
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- Well then could you imagine the cost
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- Of things like gasoline, oil?
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- So this is not an acceptable situation, number one.
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- So it's not just israel's defense,
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- It's the region's defense, frankly,
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- It's the civilized world's defense.
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- And i think those that are saying this is the end of
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- The president's administration if he backs israel,
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- Let me tell you something.
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- I know tucker carlson's been saying that and others,
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- Here's the answer to that.
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- You're wrong.
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- You're wrong for two reasons.
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- Number one, it will be his lasting legacy,
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- Eliminating the iranian threat.
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- That will be the lasting legacy of a president.
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- We've been dealing with this as a country
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- For over 50 years with the ayatollah.
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- So that needs to come to an end.
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- And the regime in my view needs to go.
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- But those on the right, like tucker and some of the others,
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- That are saying, you know, "we're gonna be america first."
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- As the president said, he's the one who determined,
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- Came up with the idea of america first.
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- This is america first.
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- Ending this threat puts america's interest first.
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- Number one, it eliminates china
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- And russia's influence in the region,
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- Because they're only captive state
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- For the russians right now and the chinese,
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- And the syrians to a little bit lesser extent,
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- Only because they've had regime change.
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- The only thing that stops that influence
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- Is taking out and taking the appropriate action
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- To eliminate this nuclear threat.
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- So let me just tell you something.
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- We have an office in jerusalem that offices engaged.
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- Our office in washington, fully engaged.
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- Our diplomatic offices at the european center
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- For law and justice, fully engaged.
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- We've deployed teams throughout the world.
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- We're gonna continue to do this, but i just want to say,
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- I am backing the president 100% here.
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- He's correct.
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- His approach is correct.
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- When he said to people, "get out of tehran," he meant it.
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- And by the way, tens of thousands,
- 00:14:01.228 --> 00:14:04.098
- Hundreds of thousands of iranians are leaving tehran.
- 00:14:04.098 --> 00:14:08.469
- It is going to, i think, will,
- 00:14:08.469 --> 00:14:10.170
- We're on the precipice of some major change.
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- I'll just leave it at that.
- 00:14:13.541 --> 00:14:14.909
- - one of the main issues among many,
- 00:14:14.909 --> 00:14:18.512
- But one of the issues i'm seeing
- 00:14:18.512 --> 00:14:20.247
- With some of these criticisms of the president's position
- 00:14:20.247 --> 00:14:24.118
- And stature on this is, is one, these are many voices
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- That always said trust the president
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- And he's a strong leader, and things of that nature.
- 00:14:31.425 --> 00:14:34.728
- But what they're also allowing to do,
- 00:14:34.728 --> 00:14:37.197
- Some are flirting with antisemitism,
- 00:14:37.197 --> 00:14:39.233
- Some are fully going there.
- 00:14:39.233 --> 00:14:41.068
- They are pushing the same old, tired, disgusting,
- 00:14:41.068 --> 00:14:45.539
- Antisemitic trope that the jewish people
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- Are the ones pulling the strings
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- And controlling the us president of the united states.
- 00:14:50.844 --> 00:14:54.014
- And that's what we're starting to see spread.
- 00:14:54.014 --> 00:14:56.550
- Not on the left where you'd expect it,
- 00:14:56.550 --> 00:14:58.852
- But we're starting to see it
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- Within the conservative media space as well.
- 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:03.457
- - [jay] yeah, it's disgusting in my view.
- 00:15:03.457 --> 00:15:05.759
- And it started with people like candace owens and others
- 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:08.796
- That went, and making these statements that go back,
- 00:15:08.796 --> 00:15:13.534
- I mean, they go back generations,
- 00:15:13.534 --> 00:15:15.836
- The antisemitism that's coming out.
- 00:15:15.836 --> 00:15:18.038
- And not only do i not like it
- 00:15:18.038 --> 00:15:19.773
- As someone that has jewish heritage.
- 00:15:19.773 --> 00:15:21.575
- I mean, you know, it's in my blood.
- 00:15:21.575 --> 00:15:23.877
- And to christians out there,
- 00:15:23.877 --> 00:15:26.146
- I want you to remember what the scriptures say,
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- "i will bless those talking about israel.
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- I will bless those that bless thee.
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- I will curse those that curse thee."
- 00:15:33.420 --> 00:15:36.357
- So i don't have to add anything to the scripture.
- 00:15:36.357 --> 00:15:39.059
- So for conservative christians,
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- Or christians generally that are listening to this,
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- If you believe what the bible says, okay?
- 00:15:43.597 --> 00:15:46.734
- Then we need to act on our beliefs.
- 00:15:46.734 --> 00:15:50.638
- - when you look at some people that may be hesitant
- 00:15:50.638 --> 00:15:54.808
- For obvious reasons to get into iraq,
- 00:15:54.808 --> 00:15:58.012
- Something that is a protracted conflict
- 00:15:58.012 --> 00:16:01.715
- That requires boots on the ground, things of that nature.
- 00:16:01.715 --> 00:16:05.586
- And to some degree, with no real end game,
- 00:16:05.586 --> 00:16:08.389
- As we saw it play out in many ways
- 00:16:08.389 --> 00:16:11.358
- Under the obama administration
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- As it just continued to linger.
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- Do you think one,
- 00:16:15.729 --> 00:16:17.031
- What we've seen from the president's strategy,
- 00:16:17.031 --> 00:16:19.233
- The way he dealt with isis.
- 00:16:19.233 --> 00:16:21.235
- He was saying no new wars, but immediately was able
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- To put down a very dangerous regional threat
- 00:16:24.171 --> 00:16:28.375
- That some people are forgetting
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- That the cabinet that's in place,
- 00:16:30.044 --> 00:16:32.146
- The team that president trump has put around him
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- Do things differently, not the old guard way.
- 00:16:36.650 --> 00:16:40.721
- And that could potentially be what's getting in the way
- 00:16:40.721 --> 00:16:43.957
- Of them seeing that the president is clear-eyed
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- About what the mission is.
- 00:16:46.160 --> 00:16:47.928
- - [jay] well, i think, look, i think the confusion here
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- Is first of all, a nuclear iran.
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- I mean, i just want you to think about that
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- What it means to the world.
- 00:16:58.472 --> 00:17:01.475
- If the ayatollah had a nuclear weapon,
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- Do you think for a moment they would hesitate in using it?
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- Of course not.
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- That's how they bring in their version of their messiah.
- 00:17:09.149 --> 00:17:12.219
- So this is a death cult.
- 00:17:12.219 --> 00:17:14.054
- That's what the iranian regime is, it's a death cult.
- 00:17:14.054 --> 00:17:17.091
- And what we have to do is stand with the president,
- 00:17:17.091 --> 00:17:20.627
- Stand with our military, and get out there,
- 00:17:20.627 --> 00:17:23.797
- And understand that this is not just an israel issue,
- 00:17:23.797 --> 00:17:27.134
- This is a global issue.
- 00:17:27.134 --> 00:17:29.069
- And by the way, israel is our strongest ally,
- 00:17:29.069 --> 00:17:31.438
- Not just in the region,
- 00:17:31.438 --> 00:17:32.740
- But one of our strongest allies in the world.
- 00:17:32.740 --> 00:17:34.441
- So we don't abandon our allies.
- 00:17:34.441 --> 00:17:36.009
- So i think that's what you're seeing right now.
- 00:17:36.009 --> 00:17:38.112
- But, will, you know,
- 00:17:38.112 --> 00:17:39.379
- This underscored antisemitism is horrific.
- 00:17:39.379 --> 00:17:42.983
- It's gotta stop,
- 00:17:42.983 --> 00:17:44.651
- And it's coming from the right as well as the left,
- 00:17:44.651 --> 00:17:47.154
- The hard right, hard left.
- 00:17:47.154 --> 00:17:49.123
- And it's gotta stop.
- 00:17:49.123 --> 00:17:50.891
- Because the end result of this is what?
- 00:17:50.891 --> 00:17:53.594
- The elimination of the state of israel.
- 00:17:53.594 --> 00:17:55.429
- Let me tell you, i have read the bible,
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- And everyone that's listening to this broadcast,
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- If they haven't, they should.
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- Israel survives this, okay?
- 00:18:00.934 --> 00:18:03.370
- That we know.
- 00:18:03.370 --> 00:18:04.571
- But what we cannot tolerate, listen,
- 00:18:04.571 --> 00:18:06.907
- It's a free country, people can speak their mind.
- 00:18:06.907 --> 00:18:08.609
- They're doing that.
- 00:18:08.609 --> 00:18:09.543
- I mean, there's this, you know,
- 00:18:09.543 --> 00:18:10.644
- Tucker is fighting with mark levin.
- 00:18:10.644 --> 00:18:12.813
- I mean, you know, it's a real fracture
- 00:18:12.813 --> 00:18:15.482
- Within the conservative movement to some extent.
- 00:18:15.482 --> 00:18:17.651
- But this isolation at marjorie taylor greene, another one.
- 00:18:17.651 --> 00:18:20.821
- But this isolationism that they're trying to put forward
- 00:18:20.821 --> 00:18:24.091
- Is just ridiculous.
- 00:18:24.091 --> 00:18:25.659
- And the president is never one that wants to initiate wars.
- 00:18:25.659 --> 00:18:28.695
- I've worked with this guy since 2016, the president,
- 00:18:28.695 --> 00:18:32.132
- And he's hesitant about war as he should be.
- 00:18:32.132 --> 00:18:34.868
- Nobody wants it.
- 00:18:34.868 --> 00:18:36.203
- But we've gotta do whatever's necessary
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- To protect our own interests
- 00:18:38.071 --> 00:18:39.606
- As well as the interests of our allies in the region.
- 00:18:39.606 --> 00:18:41.842
- There is not a negotiation there.
- 00:18:41.842 --> 00:18:44.411
- And that's why we at the aclj uniquely positioned
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- Both in jerusalem, and washington,
- 00:18:47.848 --> 00:18:49.817
- And europe to engage this,
- 00:18:49.817 --> 00:18:52.286
- And it's exactly what we're doing.
- 00:18:52.286 --> 00:18:53.987
- - i'm now joined by the former acting director
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- Of national intelligence, ric grenell,
- 00:18:57.224 --> 00:18:59.726
- A man with a very long resume.
- 00:18:59.726 --> 00:19:03.130
- We could go on and on and take up most of the segment,
- 00:19:03.130 --> 00:19:05.699
- Because you are one of the busiest people in washington,
- 00:19:05.699 --> 00:19:08.669
- And i wanted to get right to this, ric.
- 00:19:08.669 --> 00:19:11.104
- When you see these kinds of moves for our people,
- 00:19:11.104 --> 00:19:14.608
- How should we be reading what's going on
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- With the united states?
- 00:19:17.044 --> 00:19:18.679
- - well, first of all, i know president trump well,
- 00:19:19.713 --> 00:19:21.615
- And i know that he wants peace.
- 00:19:21.615 --> 00:19:23.617
- And so everything that he is doing is being done
- 00:19:23.617 --> 00:19:28.055
- So that he can somehow forge a peaceful situation,
- 00:19:28.055 --> 00:19:33.360
- A peaceful solution.
- 00:19:33.827 --> 00:19:35.596
- And sometimes that is a rough process.
- 00:19:35.596 --> 00:19:38.765
- Sometimes you have to go through some pain to get there.
- 00:19:38.765 --> 00:19:41.768
- But what we do know is that we can't have
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- An iran with nuclear weapons,
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- And the massive amounts of money they have from joe biden.
- 00:19:46.907 --> 00:19:50.344
- You know, literally, if you count
- 00:19:50.344 --> 00:19:53.780
- All of the money of sanctions relief,
- 00:19:53.780 --> 00:19:57.150
- Of credit and cash that were given to the iranian regime,
- 00:19:57.150 --> 00:20:01.722
- It's in the tens of billions of dollars.
- 00:20:01.722 --> 00:20:05.292
- And that means they're gonna have money
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- For a very long time, 15, 20 years to foment terror.
- 00:20:06.760 --> 00:20:11.598
- And so we have to make sure that this radical regime
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- Doesn't get access to a nuclear weapon.
- 00:20:15.269 --> 00:20:17.871
- And i think that's what this is all about.
- 00:20:17.871 --> 00:20:19.773
- - ric, one thing that we're starting to see
- 00:20:19.773 --> 00:20:22.709
- Is to some degree, a little bit of pushback
- 00:20:22.709 --> 00:20:26.346
- From some talking heads, you know,
- 00:20:26.346 --> 00:20:29.316
- Media types on the right that are trying to say
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- That this isn't america first.
- 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:34.488
- You're seeing a very strong defense of the president
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- From jd vance.
- 00:20:40.127 --> 00:20:41.528
- You're seeing it from others within the cabinet.
- 00:20:41.528 --> 00:20:43.430
- But even president trump himself, who's saying, by the way,
- 00:20:43.430 --> 00:20:47.200
- I have always said iran cannot have a nuclear weapon,
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- And that is america first,
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- And that is making america great again.
- 00:20:54.007 --> 00:20:57.644
- And what would you say to those on the right
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- That may sound sometimes like they're listening more
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- To those on the left,
- 00:21:03.784 --> 00:21:05.886
- And maybe getting it a little mixed up about how dangerous
- 00:21:05.886 --> 00:21:10.023
- An iranian with a nuclear weapon would be?
- 00:21:10.023 --> 00:21:13.393
- - well, look, i think that the voices
- 00:21:14.194 --> 00:21:16.663
- Calling for peace are fantastic.
- 00:21:16.663 --> 00:21:18.665
- We need more people saying that we want peace
- 00:21:18.665 --> 00:21:21.835
- And we want to put america first.
- 00:21:21.835 --> 00:21:24.071
- But i do think that we can have a debate
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- About what that actually means.
- 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:27.341
- And i know that president trump is completely focused
- 00:21:27.341 --> 00:21:30.510
- On making sure that he protects america,
- 00:21:30.510 --> 00:21:33.714
- That it's all about our safety.
- 00:21:33.714 --> 00:21:36.216
- And at the same time, he is trying to make sure
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- That he does whatever he needs to do
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- To produce peaceful outcomes.
- 00:21:42.489 --> 00:21:44.691
- Remember, right now with iran, we don't have peace.
- 00:21:44.691 --> 00:21:48.028
- We have a country, a regime,
- 00:21:48.028 --> 00:21:50.897
- That is constantly fomenting terror in the region.
- 00:21:50.897 --> 00:21:53.900
- And so what we're trying to do,
- 00:21:53.900 --> 00:21:56.336
- What president trump is trying to do is bring peace.
- 00:21:56.336 --> 00:21:58.839
- And sometimes to bring peace, it gets a little messy first.
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- - ric, i want to take a few phone calls here
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- At the end of the broadcast.
- 00:22:04.845 --> 00:22:06.079
- I know you always tell me you like
- 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:07.614
- When you get to hear from aclj listeners as well.
- 00:22:07.614 --> 00:22:10.217
- So while we've got you on,
- 00:22:10.217 --> 00:22:11.752
- We're gonna go first to tom and marilyn online too.
- 00:22:11.752 --> 00:22:15.422
- He's listening on the radio,
- 00:22:15.422 --> 00:22:16.957
- But tom, you're on the air with me and with ric grenell.
- 00:22:16.957 --> 00:22:21.428
- - [tom] oh, i feel very blessed.
- 00:22:22.062 --> 00:22:23.930
- I'm not in the best place to talk,
- 00:22:23.930 --> 00:22:25.198
- But i'll just talk quickly.
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- One is, any elected leaders that are naive enough to believe
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- That iran is not doing all this for destructive purposes,
- 00:22:33.306 --> 00:22:37.377
- Should be voted out of office immediately.
- 00:22:37.377 --> 00:22:40.147
- They may be the most brilliant elites out of harvard,
- 00:22:40.147 --> 00:22:43.717
- But if they're that naive about
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- What their agenda is and what human nature is,
- 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.522
- God help us all if we have people like that
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- Leading our nation.
- 00:22:50.824 --> 00:22:52.325
- Number two is all the media stars like tucker carlson
- 00:22:52.325 --> 00:22:55.929
- May need to be condemned without hesitation.
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- - tom, i see what you're saying as well.
- 00:23:02.135 --> 00:23:04.538
- Once again, iran, ric,
- 00:23:04.538 --> 00:23:07.641
- Has always tried to say this is a peaceful process.
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- This is for peaceful nuclear power.
- 00:23:10.811 --> 00:23:13.980
- When in reality, they do have one nuclear power plant.
- 00:23:13.980 --> 00:23:18.051
- And that 3 to 5% enriched uranium
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- Doesn't come from any of the billions of dollars
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- They've spent on enriching uranium.
- 00:23:24.091 --> 00:23:25.992
- It comes from russia,
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- And russia takes back the spent cores afterwards.
- 00:23:27.360 --> 00:23:29.296
- So there is a lot of unfortunate naivete,
- 00:23:29.296 --> 00:23:33.200
- I feel like within some elected officials
- 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:35.902
- And elites that maybe we should take iran
- 00:23:35.902 --> 00:23:38.538
- At their word for it, but what are your thoughts on that?
- 00:23:38.538 --> 00:23:41.908
- - well, first of all,
- 00:23:41.908 --> 00:23:43.243
- Let me just compliment tom and his question,
- 00:23:43.243 --> 00:23:45.645
- Because i went to harvard, and i can tell you
- 00:23:45.645 --> 00:23:48.448
- The smartest people did not go to harvard.
- 00:23:48.448 --> 00:23:51.451
- I've been around a lot of people who were not
- 00:23:51.451 --> 00:23:56.089
- What you would think would be the sharpest tool in the shed,
- 00:23:56.089 --> 00:24:00.594
- But yet they have a harvard degree.
- 00:24:01.394 --> 00:24:03.063
- And so i think tom has got a really great point.
- 00:24:03.063 --> 00:24:05.799
- We need people with actual street smarts,
- 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.902
- People who deal in reality.
- 00:24:08.902 --> 00:24:10.904
- And this is not an academic exercise.
- 00:24:10.904 --> 00:24:12.873
- I think we saw that from the biden team.
- 00:24:12.873 --> 00:24:15.909
- That's the first point.
- 00:24:15.909 --> 00:24:16.843
- The second point is, again,
- 00:24:16.843 --> 00:24:18.178
- I like the voices calling for peace.
- 00:24:18.178 --> 00:24:21.448
- I like the loud people who are saying,
- 00:24:21.448 --> 00:24:23.583
- "look, america first means peace."
- 00:24:23.583 --> 00:24:25.952
- Because i think donald trump agrees ultimately with that.
- 00:24:25.952 --> 00:24:28.722
- But again, we have to go back, and it's not correct to say
- 00:24:28.722 --> 00:24:34.060
- That the place is full of peace right now.
- 00:24:34.961 --> 00:24:36.763
- It's not as stable, peaceful country, iran.
- 00:24:36.763 --> 00:24:39.799
- It's fomenting violence constantly.
- 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:42.502
- And so what what i think that we just have to understand
- 00:24:42.502 --> 00:24:45.906
- Is that donald trump is absolutely focused
- 00:24:45.906 --> 00:24:49.042
- On protecting america and bringing about peace.
- 00:24:49.042 --> 00:24:52.112
- But sometimes you have to do big things,
- 00:24:52.112 --> 00:24:54.848
- Like peace through strength,
- 00:24:54.848 --> 00:24:56.650
- In order to preserve peace or get peace.
- 00:24:56.650 --> 00:24:59.853
- And so i would just say to people, trust the process,
- 00:24:59.853 --> 00:25:04.624
- Trust president trump, he's not abandoning the idea
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- Of working towards peace.
- 00:25:08.695 --> 00:25:10.197
- He's going to bring us peace,
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- Because he's completely focused on.
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