Jay Sekulow - Unrest in the Middle East

July 2, 2025 | 28:42

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Sekulow | Jay Sekulow - Unrest in the Middle East | July 2, 2025
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  • - welcome to "sekulow."
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  • Will haynes, executive producer here today.
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  • And we have a jam packed show as iran showcase
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  • That they have what appear to be hypersonic missiles
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  • That are able to strike deep within the heart of israel,
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  • And are very hard to stop.
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  • We saw multiple times these rockets,
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  • These missiles slam into the heart of tel aviv
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  • And other parts of israel causing a lot of destruction,
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  • A lot of damage, and they're very hard to stop.
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  • They're very fast.
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  • It's extremely new technology.
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  • It leads to questions of which we will get in today
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  • Of how did iran get these very advanced ballistic missiles,
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  • While the world has been watching.
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  • But then we're also gonna talk about what israel has done,
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  • Because israel has been carrying out missions,
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  • Both it seems, on the ground in tehran with mossad,
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  • As well as with the idf and the israeli air force.
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  • And one thing that they keep doing is taking out top leaders
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  • Within the iranian regime.
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  • These are people that are responsible for the plans,
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  • The strategic implementation of these attacks on israel.
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  • And just now, we've learned that a new strike
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  • Has eliminated the head of intelligence
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  • For the iranian revolutionary guard corps, his deputy,
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  • The head of the quds force intelligence directorate,
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  • And his deputy.
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  • These are the top four iranian intelligence officials
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  • That israel has now taken out.
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  • They will no longer be able to sow their terror
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  • Across the middle east in the world and target israel,
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  • Whether through proxies, through funding of those proxies,
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  • Supplying weaponry, or directing those proxies
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  • To attack israel, as well as during this very war.
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  • Their intelligence capabilities are now a lot less strong
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  • Than they thought they were.
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  • And we're gonna see how israel continues as they continue
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  • With this massive intelligence operation
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  • To strike at the very heart
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  • Of not just iran's nuclear program,
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  • But their ability to wage terror
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  • Across the middle east and the world.
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  • It's astounding to watch.
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  • It is very impressive, but the fight isn't over.
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  • And we already know that the iaea,
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  • The un's atomic energy organization is condemning israel
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  • For their strike on iran's nuclear capabilities.
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  • We know that the icc is probably already figuring out
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  • How to go after israel for war crimes,
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  • And the aclj is here to fight back.
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  • - welcome back to "sekulow."
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  • Executive producer will haynes hosting today.
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  • And i'm now joined by chris mitchell,
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  • Who is the cbn news bureau chief in jerusalem.
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  • And chris, we've had you on this broadcast for many years,
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  • And i feel like this conflict is a little different
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  • Than ones we've had you on before.
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  • What's your sense on the ground
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  • Of how it's playing out in israel and what you're seeing?
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  • - will, great to be with you.
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  • I think this is much different
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  • Than things that we have done in the past.
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  • I think we're looking at a historic change
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  • Potentially here in the middle east.
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  • Obviously, israel has been taking some hits.
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  • Yesterday, i was in bat yam,
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  • That's where one of the iranian missiles has hit,
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  • Destroyed an apartment building.
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  • Tragically, nine people died in that,
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  • Three children, about 200 injured,
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  • About 75 buildings that were damage to some extent.
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  • But what began when,
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  • Early last friday morning really is i would say,
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  • I see change in the middle east history with the potential
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  • That we may see a regime change in iran,
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  • Because of what israel has been doing
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  • To not only take out much of the nuclear infrastructure,
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  • Air defenses, ballistic missiles,
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  • But also targeting much of the headquarters
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  • Of some of the irgc, the iranian army,
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  • And eliminating just an amazing amount
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  • Of senior leaderships in iran.
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  • And very reminiscent of what happened with hassan nasrallah
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  • With hezbollah.
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  • But even on a grander scale,
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  • So we're in historic times right now,
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  • And some would say even biblical times.
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  • - and when you look at what israel
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  • Has been able to pull off even just now,
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  • And we know that this operation is not over,
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  • But what we are seeing is,
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  • One, the restraint of the israelis
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  • To wait until they felt like it was necessary.
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  • The fact, the intelligence gathering, the manufacturing,
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  • It appears of drones within tehran,
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  • And the coordinated effort between the idf and mossad,
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  • And shin bet, and the israeli air force
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  • Is something like we've never seen
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  • In modern warfare take place.
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  • And it really, i think is accredited to the israelis
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  • Of their planning and their waiting
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  • Until they felt like it was absolutely necessary
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  • To carry out such an operation.
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  • - the planning has been probably
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  • About 20 years in the making, will.
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  • The precision and the intelligence
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  • That israel has been gathering over the years,
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  • And the way that they've been able
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  • To infiltrate the iranian leadership.
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  • And you know, when they started eliminating
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  • Some of the top iranian leaders, they knew where they were.
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  • And they not only knew where they were,
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  • But they also had the wherewithal, as you said,
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  • Some of these drones actually taking in by different parts
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  • And then constructed inside tehran,
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  • Or different parts of iran.
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  • This is just something on a scale.
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  • I don't know if any military army has been able to do this
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  • With all the intelligence apparatus, as you say,
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  • The mossad and the shin bet, putting it all together,
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  • And then operating it,
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  • And releasing it at just the right time.
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  • This is just spectacular what they have been able to do,
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  • And continue to do.
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  • Even as we speak, the attacks go on.
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  • I believe just a few hours ago,
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  • They hit the iranian television in tehran as well.
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  • And we seeing just the consequences of what's happening.
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  • We seeing, you know, thousands and thousands
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  • Of people from tehran leaving,
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  • And we hear of, you know,
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  • The iranian people rising up like they have before.
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  • You know, we've seen this before in the sense of maybe 2009,
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  • There was a green revolution and then,
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  • But that was brutally suppressed again in 2022 and '23,
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  • The protests when mahsa amini was killed
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  • Just for wearing her hijab in an improper way.
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  • But this looks very different, will,
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  • That if the people do rise up,
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  • It seems like it's a much weaker regime,
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  • Much less able to suppress any sort of uprising.
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  • We were down at bat yam yesterday,
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  • And we interviewed naftali bennett,
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  • The former israeli prime minister,
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  • And he said, "this is the opportunity for the iranian people
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  • To rise up, that the people of the world will be with you."
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  • And certainly what israel is doing
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  • Is really making it possible, it seems,
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  • For the iranian people to finally get the freedom
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  • That they have cried out for for 46 years.
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  • - well, and as you mentioned, back with the green revolution
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  • Under the obama administration,
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  • There really was no support from an american government
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  • For there to be real change
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  • Within the islamic republic of iran.
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  • And i feel like it is a different era for many reasons,
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  • Obviously, but as we look at what's lays ahead.
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  • You see videos coming out of iran of people chanting
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  • In support of what israel's doing,
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  • And against the ayatollahs and the mullahs in iran.
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  • And this is final question here as we look ahead,
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  • And we see that they are weakened,
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  • We see the intelligence officers being wiped out,
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  • The top nuclear scientist, the people within the irgc
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  • That have such a grip on the people of iran
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  • As they're being taken out.
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  • What should we, as the american media consumer
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  • That are very engaged and involved with this,
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  • What should we be looking for in the days ahead
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  • That could maybe show a nod,
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  • There could be real change and real regime change in iran?
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  • - well just continue to see what's happening
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  • On social media.
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  • I think we're gonna be seeing more videos
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  • Of people crying out for regime change.
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  • Keep your eye out on reza pahlavi,
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  • Who's the son of the late shah.
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  • He's put out a message to the iranian people,
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  • And the military in particular, to join the people.
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  • That could be a game changer or a tipping point as well.
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  • I would say also, hopefully many people are hoping
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  • The us would continue to support, even indirectly, israel,
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  • And maybe provide those bunker-busting bombs for fordow,
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  • Which is a key enrichment facility.
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  • And finally, i know a lot of people are saying,
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  • Pray for the people of iran,
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  • Pray for the protection of israel.
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  • Prayer is very, very critical in these tumultuous days.
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  • - chris, thank you so much for joining us today.
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  • We pray for your safety as you report from jerusalem,
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  • As well as for the people of israel
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  • And for the people of iran.
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  • But thank you for this update,
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  • And we will hopefully have you on again soon
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  • As we continue to watch what's happening in israel.
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  • It's that simple.
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  • (bright upbeat music)
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  • - executive producer will haynes in the chair today,
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  • But i'm joined now by the aclj chief counsel jay sekulow.
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  • And we are gonna be talking some about
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  • What we're starting to see on the right.
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  • We see president trump with strong statements
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  • About the iranian program
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  • Saying they can never have nuclear weapons.
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  • We saw him leave the g7 summit early
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  • To get back and meet with the national security council.
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  • But we're starting to see some voices on the right
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  • That are now saying this could be the end
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  • Of president trump's legacy.
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  • It could be the end of his presidency.
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  • We're seeing aoc retweet republican members of congress.
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  • And i just wanted to get your take
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  • On what we're starting to see
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  • Out of some of the more loud voices on the right.
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  • - [jay] well, i wanna be crystal clear on this, will,
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  • And i want our audience to understand.
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  • First of all, president trump is 100% correct.
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  • A nuclear iran is unacceptable, number one.
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  • Number two, can't happen.
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  • It puts not just the region at risk,
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  • But it puts the entire world at risk.
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  • For instance, if the iranians thought they could close
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  • The strait of hormuz with impunity,
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  • Well then could you imagine the cost
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  • Of things like gasoline, oil?
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  • So this is not an acceptable situation, number one.
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  • So it's not just israel's defense,
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  • It's the region's defense, frankly,
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  • It's the civilized world's defense.
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  • And i think those that are saying this is the end of
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  • The president's administration if he backs israel,
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  • Let me tell you something.
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  • I know tucker carlson's been saying that and others,
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  • Here's the answer to that.
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  • You're wrong.
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  • You're wrong for two reasons.
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  • Number one, it will be his lasting legacy,
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  • Eliminating the iranian threat.
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  • That will be the lasting legacy of a president.
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  • We've been dealing with this as a country
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  • For over 50 years with the ayatollah.
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  • So that needs to come to an end.
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  • And the regime in my view needs to go.
  • 00:12:54.395 --> 00:12:57.731
  • But those on the right, like tucker and some of the others,
  • 00:12:57.731 --> 00:13:00.935
  • That are saying, you know, "we're gonna be america first."
  • 00:13:00.935 --> 00:13:03.971
  • As the president said, he's the one who determined,
  • 00:13:03.971 --> 00:13:06.507
  • Came up with the idea of america first.
  • 00:13:06.507 --> 00:13:08.609
  • This is america first.
  • 00:13:08.609 --> 00:13:10.311
  • Ending this threat puts america's interest first.
  • 00:13:10.311 --> 00:13:14.648
  • Number one, it eliminates china
  • 00:13:14.648 --> 00:13:16.517
  • And russia's influence in the region,
  • 00:13:16.517 --> 00:13:18.552
  • Because they're only captive state
  • 00:13:18.552 --> 00:13:22.456
  • For the russians right now and the chinese,
  • 00:13:22.456 --> 00:13:24.825
  • And the syrians to a little bit lesser extent,
  • 00:13:24.825 --> 00:13:26.861
  • Only because they've had regime change.
  • 00:13:26.861 --> 00:13:29.630
  • The only thing that stops that influence
  • 00:13:29.630 --> 00:13:33.100
  • Is taking out and taking the appropriate action
  • 00:13:33.100 --> 00:13:35.936
  • To eliminate this nuclear threat.
  • 00:13:35.936 --> 00:13:37.771
  • So let me just tell you something.
  • 00:13:37.771 --> 00:13:39.240
  • We have an office in jerusalem that offices engaged.
  • 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.275
  • Our office in washington, fully engaged.
  • 00:13:41.275 --> 00:13:43.711
  • Our diplomatic offices at the european center
  • 00:13:43.711 --> 00:13:45.846
  • For law and justice, fully engaged.
  • 00:13:45.846 --> 00:13:48.215
  • We've deployed teams throughout the world.
  • 00:13:48.215 --> 00:13:50.184
  • We're gonna continue to do this, but i just want to say,
  • 00:13:50.184 --> 00:13:52.887
  • I am backing the president 100% here.
  • 00:13:52.887 --> 00:13:55.623
  • He's correct.
  • 00:13:55.623 --> 00:13:56.590
  • His approach is correct.
  • 00:13:56.590 --> 00:13:58.125
  • When he said to people, "get out of tehran," he meant it.
  • 00:13:58.125 --> 00:14:01.228
  • And by the way, tens of thousands,
  • 00:14:01.228 --> 00:14:04.098
  • Hundreds of thousands of iranians are leaving tehran.
  • 00:14:04.098 --> 00:14:08.469
  • It is going to, i think, will,
  • 00:14:08.469 --> 00:14:10.170
  • We're on the precipice of some major change.
  • 00:14:10.170 --> 00:14:13.541
  • I'll just leave it at that.
  • 00:14:13.541 --> 00:14:14.909
  • - one of the main issues among many,
  • 00:14:14.909 --> 00:14:18.512
  • But one of the issues i'm seeing
  • 00:14:18.512 --> 00:14:20.247
  • With some of these criticisms of the president's position
  • 00:14:20.247 --> 00:14:24.118
  • And stature on this is, is one, these are many voices
  • 00:14:24.118 --> 00:14:28.556
  • That always said trust the president
  • 00:14:28.556 --> 00:14:31.425
  • And he's a strong leader, and things of that nature.
  • 00:14:31.425 --> 00:14:34.728
  • But what they're also allowing to do,
  • 00:14:34.728 --> 00:14:37.197
  • Some are flirting with antisemitism,
  • 00:14:37.197 --> 00:14:39.233
  • Some are fully going there.
  • 00:14:39.233 --> 00:14:41.068
  • They are pushing the same old, tired, disgusting,
  • 00:14:41.068 --> 00:14:45.539
  • Antisemitic trope that the jewish people
  • 00:14:45.539 --> 00:14:49.043
  • Are the ones pulling the strings
  • 00:14:49.043 --> 00:14:50.844
  • And controlling the us president of the united states.
  • 00:14:50.844 --> 00:14:54.014
  • And that's what we're starting to see spread.
  • 00:14:54.014 --> 00:14:56.550
  • Not on the left where you'd expect it,
  • 00:14:56.550 --> 00:14:58.852
  • But we're starting to see it
  • 00:14:58.852 --> 00:15:00.120
  • Within the conservative media space as well.
  • 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:03.457
  • - [jay] yeah, it's disgusting in my view.
  • 00:15:03.457 --> 00:15:05.759
  • And it started with people like candace owens and others
  • 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:08.796
  • That went, and making these statements that go back,
  • 00:15:08.796 --> 00:15:13.534
  • I mean, they go back generations,
  • 00:15:13.534 --> 00:15:15.836
  • The antisemitism that's coming out.
  • 00:15:15.836 --> 00:15:18.038
  • And not only do i not like it
  • 00:15:18.038 --> 00:15:19.773
  • As someone that has jewish heritage.
  • 00:15:19.773 --> 00:15:21.575
  • I mean, you know, it's in my blood.
  • 00:15:21.575 --> 00:15:23.877
  • And to christians out there,
  • 00:15:23.877 --> 00:15:26.146
  • I want you to remember what the scriptures say,
  • 00:15:26.146 --> 00:15:28.716
  • "i will bless those talking about israel.
  • 00:15:28.716 --> 00:15:30.818
  • I will bless those that bless thee.
  • 00:15:30.818 --> 00:15:33.420
  • I will curse those that curse thee."
  • 00:15:33.420 --> 00:15:36.357
  • So i don't have to add anything to the scripture.
  • 00:15:36.357 --> 00:15:39.059
  • So for conservative christians,
  • 00:15:39.059 --> 00:15:40.861
  • Or christians generally that are listening to this,
  • 00:15:40.861 --> 00:15:43.597
  • If you believe what the bible says, okay?
  • 00:15:43.597 --> 00:15:46.734
  • Then we need to act on our beliefs.
  • 00:15:46.734 --> 00:15:50.638
  • - when you look at some people that may be hesitant
  • 00:15:50.638 --> 00:15:54.808
  • For obvious reasons to get into iraq,
  • 00:15:54.808 --> 00:15:58.012
  • Something that is a protracted conflict
  • 00:15:58.012 --> 00:16:01.715
  • That requires boots on the ground, things of that nature.
  • 00:16:01.715 --> 00:16:05.586
  • And to some degree, with no real end game,
  • 00:16:05.586 --> 00:16:08.389
  • As we saw it play out in many ways
  • 00:16:08.389 --> 00:16:11.358
  • Under the obama administration
  • 00:16:11.358 --> 00:16:12.793
  • As it just continued to linger.
  • 00:16:12.793 --> 00:16:15.295
  • Do you think one,
  • 00:16:15.729 --> 00:16:17.031
  • What we've seen from the president's strategy,
  • 00:16:17.031 --> 00:16:19.233
  • The way he dealt with isis.
  • 00:16:19.233 --> 00:16:21.235
  • He was saying no new wars, but immediately was able
  • 00:16:21.235 --> 00:16:24.171
  • To put down a very dangerous regional threat
  • 00:16:24.171 --> 00:16:28.375
  • That some people are forgetting
  • 00:16:28.375 --> 00:16:30.044
  • That the cabinet that's in place,
  • 00:16:30.044 --> 00:16:32.146
  • The team that president trump has put around him
  • 00:16:32.146 --> 00:16:36.650
  • Do things differently, not the old guard way.
  • 00:16:36.650 --> 00:16:40.721
  • And that could potentially be what's getting in the way
  • 00:16:40.721 --> 00:16:43.957
  • Of them seeing that the president is clear-eyed
  • 00:16:43.957 --> 00:16:46.160
  • About what the mission is.
  • 00:16:46.160 --> 00:16:47.928
  • - [jay] well, i think, look, i think the confusion here
  • 00:16:49.029 --> 00:16:50.631
  • Is first of all, a nuclear iran.
  • 00:16:50.631 --> 00:16:55.936
  • I mean, i just want you to think about that
  • 00:16:56.837 --> 00:16:58.472
  • What it means to the world.
  • 00:16:58.472 --> 00:17:01.475
  • If the ayatollah had a nuclear weapon,
  • 00:17:01.475 --> 00:17:04.178
  • Do you think for a moment they would hesitate in using it?
  • 00:17:04.178 --> 00:17:07.614
  • Of course not.
  • 00:17:07.614 --> 00:17:09.149
  • That's how they bring in their version of their messiah.
  • 00:17:09.149 --> 00:17:12.219
  • So this is a death cult.
  • 00:17:12.219 --> 00:17:14.054
  • That's what the iranian regime is, it's a death cult.
  • 00:17:14.054 --> 00:17:17.091
  • And what we have to do is stand with the president,
  • 00:17:17.091 --> 00:17:20.627
  • Stand with our military, and get out there,
  • 00:17:20.627 --> 00:17:23.797
  • And understand that this is not just an israel issue,
  • 00:17:23.797 --> 00:17:27.134
  • This is a global issue.
  • 00:17:27.134 --> 00:17:29.069
  • And by the way, israel is our strongest ally,
  • 00:17:29.069 --> 00:17:31.438
  • Not just in the region,
  • 00:17:31.438 --> 00:17:32.740
  • But one of our strongest allies in the world.
  • 00:17:32.740 --> 00:17:34.441
  • So we don't abandon our allies.
  • 00:17:34.441 --> 00:17:36.009
  • So i think that's what you're seeing right now.
  • 00:17:36.009 --> 00:17:38.112
  • But, will, you know,
  • 00:17:38.112 --> 00:17:39.379
  • This underscored antisemitism is horrific.
  • 00:17:39.379 --> 00:17:42.983
  • It's gotta stop,
  • 00:17:42.983 --> 00:17:44.651
  • And it's coming from the right as well as the left,
  • 00:17:44.651 --> 00:17:47.154
  • The hard right, hard left.
  • 00:17:47.154 --> 00:17:49.123
  • And it's gotta stop.
  • 00:17:49.123 --> 00:17:50.891
  • Because the end result of this is what?
  • 00:17:50.891 --> 00:17:53.594
  • The elimination of the state of israel.
  • 00:17:53.594 --> 00:17:55.429
  • Let me tell you, i have read the bible,
  • 00:17:55.429 --> 00:17:57.498
  • And everyone that's listening to this broadcast,
  • 00:17:57.498 --> 00:17:59.433
  • If they haven't, they should.
  • 00:17:59.433 --> 00:18:00.934
  • Israel survives this, okay?
  • 00:18:00.934 --> 00:18:03.370
  • That we know.
  • 00:18:03.370 --> 00:18:04.571
  • But what we cannot tolerate, listen,
  • 00:18:04.571 --> 00:18:06.907
  • It's a free country, people can speak their mind.
  • 00:18:06.907 --> 00:18:08.609
  • They're doing that.
  • 00:18:08.609 --> 00:18:09.543
  • I mean, there's this, you know,
  • 00:18:09.543 --> 00:18:10.644
  • Tucker is fighting with mark levin.
  • 00:18:10.644 --> 00:18:12.813
  • I mean, you know, it's a real fracture
  • 00:18:12.813 --> 00:18:15.482
  • Within the conservative movement to some extent.
  • 00:18:15.482 --> 00:18:17.651
  • But this isolation at marjorie taylor greene, another one.
  • 00:18:17.651 --> 00:18:20.821
  • But this isolationism that they're trying to put forward
  • 00:18:20.821 --> 00:18:24.091
  • Is just ridiculous.
  • 00:18:24.091 --> 00:18:25.659
  • And the president is never one that wants to initiate wars.
  • 00:18:25.659 --> 00:18:28.695
  • I've worked with this guy since 2016, the president,
  • 00:18:28.695 --> 00:18:32.132
  • And he's hesitant about war as he should be.
  • 00:18:32.132 --> 00:18:34.868
  • Nobody wants it.
  • 00:18:34.868 --> 00:18:36.203
  • But we've gotta do whatever's necessary
  • 00:18:36.203 --> 00:18:38.071
  • To protect our own interests
  • 00:18:38.071 --> 00:18:39.606
  • As well as the interests of our allies in the region.
  • 00:18:39.606 --> 00:18:41.842
  • There is not a negotiation there.
  • 00:18:41.842 --> 00:18:44.411
  • And that's why we at the aclj uniquely positioned
  • 00:18:44.411 --> 00:18:47.848
  • Both in jerusalem, and washington,
  • 00:18:47.848 --> 00:18:49.817
  • And europe to engage this,
  • 00:18:49.817 --> 00:18:52.286
  • And it's exactly what we're doing.
  • 00:18:52.286 --> 00:18:53.987
  • - i'm now joined by the former acting director
  • 00:18:53.987 --> 00:18:57.224
  • Of national intelligence, ric grenell,
  • 00:18:57.224 --> 00:18:59.726
  • A man with a very long resume.
  • 00:18:59.726 --> 00:19:03.130
  • We could go on and on and take up most of the segment,
  • 00:19:03.130 --> 00:19:05.699
  • Because you are one of the busiest people in washington,
  • 00:19:05.699 --> 00:19:08.669
  • And i wanted to get right to this, ric.
  • 00:19:08.669 --> 00:19:11.104
  • When you see these kinds of moves for our people,
  • 00:19:11.104 --> 00:19:14.608
  • How should we be reading what's going on
  • 00:19:14.608 --> 00:19:17.044
  • With the united states?
  • 00:19:17.044 --> 00:19:18.679
  • - well, first of all, i know president trump well,
  • 00:19:19.713 --> 00:19:21.615
  • And i know that he wants peace.
  • 00:19:21.615 --> 00:19:23.617
  • And so everything that he is doing is being done
  • 00:19:23.617 --> 00:19:28.055
  • So that he can somehow forge a peaceful situation,
  • 00:19:28.055 --> 00:19:33.360
  • A peaceful solution.
  • 00:19:33.827 --> 00:19:35.596
  • And sometimes that is a rough process.
  • 00:19:35.596 --> 00:19:38.765
  • Sometimes you have to go through some pain to get there.
  • 00:19:38.765 --> 00:19:41.768
  • But what we do know is that we can't have
  • 00:19:41.768 --> 00:19:44.938
  • An iran with nuclear weapons,
  • 00:19:44.938 --> 00:19:46.907
  • And the massive amounts of money they have from joe biden.
  • 00:19:46.907 --> 00:19:50.344
  • You know, literally, if you count
  • 00:19:50.344 --> 00:19:53.780
  • All of the money of sanctions relief,
  • 00:19:53.780 --> 00:19:57.150
  • Of credit and cash that were given to the iranian regime,
  • 00:19:57.150 --> 00:20:01.722
  • It's in the tens of billions of dollars.
  • 00:20:01.722 --> 00:20:05.292
  • And that means they're gonna have money
  • 00:20:05.292 --> 00:20:06.760
  • For a very long time, 15, 20 years to foment terror.
  • 00:20:06.760 --> 00:20:11.598
  • And so we have to make sure that this radical regime
  • 00:20:11.598 --> 00:20:15.269
  • Doesn't get access to a nuclear weapon.
  • 00:20:15.269 --> 00:20:17.871
  • And i think that's what this is all about.
  • 00:20:17.871 --> 00:20:19.773
  • - ric, one thing that we're starting to see
  • 00:20:19.773 --> 00:20:22.709
  • Is to some degree, a little bit of pushback
  • 00:20:22.709 --> 00:20:26.346
  • From some talking heads, you know,
  • 00:20:26.346 --> 00:20:29.316
  • Media types on the right that are trying to say
  • 00:20:29.316 --> 00:20:32.319
  • That this isn't america first.
  • 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:34.488
  • You're seeing a very strong defense of the president
  • 00:20:34.488 --> 00:20:39.760
  • From jd vance.
  • 00:20:40.127 --> 00:20:41.528
  • You're seeing it from others within the cabinet.
  • 00:20:41.528 --> 00:20:43.430
  • But even president trump himself, who's saying, by the way,
  • 00:20:43.430 --> 00:20:47.200
  • I have always said iran cannot have a nuclear weapon,
  • 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:50.904
  • And that is america first,
  • 00:20:50.904 --> 00:20:54.007
  • And that is making america great again.
  • 00:20:54.007 --> 00:20:57.644
  • And what would you say to those on the right
  • 00:20:57.644 --> 00:21:00.147
  • That may sound sometimes like they're listening more
  • 00:21:00.147 --> 00:21:03.784
  • To those on the left,
  • 00:21:03.784 --> 00:21:05.886
  • And maybe getting it a little mixed up about how dangerous
  • 00:21:05.886 --> 00:21:10.023
  • An iranian with a nuclear weapon would be?
  • 00:21:10.023 --> 00:21:13.393
  • - well, look, i think that the voices
  • 00:21:14.194 --> 00:21:16.663
  • Calling for peace are fantastic.
  • 00:21:16.663 --> 00:21:18.665
  • We need more people saying that we want peace
  • 00:21:18.665 --> 00:21:21.835
  • And we want to put america first.
  • 00:21:21.835 --> 00:21:24.071
  • But i do think that we can have a debate
  • 00:21:24.071 --> 00:21:25.839
  • About what that actually means.
  • 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:27.341
  • And i know that president trump is completely focused
  • 00:21:27.341 --> 00:21:30.510
  • On making sure that he protects america,
  • 00:21:30.510 --> 00:21:33.714
  • That it's all about our safety.
  • 00:21:33.714 --> 00:21:36.216
  • And at the same time, he is trying to make sure
  • 00:21:36.216 --> 00:21:40.220
  • That he does whatever he needs to do
  • 00:21:40.220 --> 00:21:42.489
  • To produce peaceful outcomes.
  • 00:21:42.489 --> 00:21:44.691
  • Remember, right now with iran, we don't have peace.
  • 00:21:44.691 --> 00:21:48.028
  • We have a country, a regime,
  • 00:21:48.028 --> 00:21:50.897
  • That is constantly fomenting terror in the region.
  • 00:21:50.897 --> 00:21:53.900
  • And so what we're trying to do,
  • 00:21:53.900 --> 00:21:56.336
  • What president trump is trying to do is bring peace.
  • 00:21:56.336 --> 00:21:58.839
  • And sometimes to bring peace, it gets a little messy first.
  • 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:02.943
  • - ric, i want to take a few phone calls here
  • 00:22:02.943 --> 00:22:04.845
  • At the end of the broadcast.
  • 00:22:04.845 --> 00:22:06.079
  • I know you always tell me you like
  • 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:07.614
  • When you get to hear from aclj listeners as well.
  • 00:22:07.614 --> 00:22:10.217
  • So while we've got you on,
  • 00:22:10.217 --> 00:22:11.752
  • We're gonna go first to tom and marilyn online too.
  • 00:22:11.752 --> 00:22:15.422
  • He's listening on the radio,
  • 00:22:15.422 --> 00:22:16.957
  • But tom, you're on the air with me and with ric grenell.
  • 00:22:16.957 --> 00:22:21.428
  • - [tom] oh, i feel very blessed.
  • 00:22:22.062 --> 00:22:23.930
  • I'm not in the best place to talk,
  • 00:22:23.930 --> 00:22:25.198
  • But i'll just talk quickly.
  • 00:22:25.198 --> 00:22:26.833
  • One is, any elected leaders that are naive enough to believe
  • 00:22:26.833 --> 00:22:32.172
  • That iran is not doing all this for destructive purposes,
  • 00:22:33.306 --> 00:22:37.377
  • Should be voted out of office immediately.
  • 00:22:37.377 --> 00:22:40.147
  • They may be the most brilliant elites out of harvard,
  • 00:22:40.147 --> 00:22:43.717
  • But if they're that naive about
  • 00:22:43.717 --> 00:22:45.519
  • What their agenda is and what human nature is,
  • 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.522
  • God help us all if we have people like that
  • 00:22:48.522 --> 00:22:50.824
  • Leading our nation.
  • 00:22:50.824 --> 00:22:52.325
  • Number two is all the media stars like tucker carlson
  • 00:22:52.325 --> 00:22:55.929
  • May need to be condemned without hesitation.
  • 00:22:55.929 --> 00:23:01.301
  • - tom, i see what you're saying as well.
  • 00:23:02.135 --> 00:23:04.538
  • Once again, iran, ric,
  • 00:23:04.538 --> 00:23:07.641
  • Has always tried to say this is a peaceful process.
  • 00:23:07.641 --> 00:23:10.811
  • This is for peaceful nuclear power.
  • 00:23:10.811 --> 00:23:13.980
  • When in reality, they do have one nuclear power plant.
  • 00:23:13.980 --> 00:23:18.051
  • And that 3 to 5% enriched uranium
  • 00:23:18.051 --> 00:23:21.088
  • Doesn't come from any of the billions of dollars
  • 00:23:21.088 --> 00:23:24.091
  • They've spent on enriching uranium.
  • 00:23:24.091 --> 00:23:25.992
  • It comes from russia,
  • 00:23:25.992 --> 00:23:27.360
  • And russia takes back the spent cores afterwards.
  • 00:23:27.360 --> 00:23:29.296
  • So there is a lot of unfortunate naivete,
  • 00:23:29.296 --> 00:23:33.200
  • I feel like within some elected officials
  • 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:35.902
  • And elites that maybe we should take iran
  • 00:23:35.902 --> 00:23:38.538
  • At their word for it, but what are your thoughts on that?
  • 00:23:38.538 --> 00:23:41.908
  • - well, first of all,
  • 00:23:41.908 --> 00:23:43.243
  • Let me just compliment tom and his question,
  • 00:23:43.243 --> 00:23:45.645
  • Because i went to harvard, and i can tell you
  • 00:23:45.645 --> 00:23:48.448
  • The smartest people did not go to harvard.
  • 00:23:48.448 --> 00:23:51.451
  • I've been around a lot of people who were not
  • 00:23:51.451 --> 00:23:56.089
  • What you would think would be the sharpest tool in the shed,
  • 00:23:56.089 --> 00:24:00.594
  • But yet they have a harvard degree.
  • 00:24:01.394 --> 00:24:03.063
  • And so i think tom has got a really great point.
  • 00:24:03.063 --> 00:24:05.799
  • We need people with actual street smarts,
  • 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.902
  • People who deal in reality.
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  • And this is not an academic exercise.
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  • I think we saw that from the biden team.
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  • That's the first point.
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  • The second point is, again,
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  • I like the voices calling for peace.
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  • I like the loud people who are saying,
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  • "look, america first means peace."
  • 00:24:23.583 --> 00:24:25.952
  • Because i think donald trump agrees ultimately with that.
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  • But again, we have to go back, and it's not correct to say
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  • That the place is full of peace right now.
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  • It's not as stable, peaceful country, iran.
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  • It's fomenting violence constantly.
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  • And so what what i think that we just have to understand
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  • Is that donald trump is absolutely focused
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  • On protecting america and bringing about peace.
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  • But sometimes you have to do big things,
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  • Like peace through strength,
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  • In order to preserve peace or get peace.
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  • And so i would just say to people, trust the process,
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  • Trust president trump, he's not abandoning the idea
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  • Of working towards peace.
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  • He's going to bring us peace,
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  • Because he's completely focused on.
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