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January 28, 2026 | 25:15

Sekulow - Articles of Impeachment Filed Against Walz
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Sekulow | Sekulow - Articles of Impeachment Filed Against Walz | January 28, 2026
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  • - it's "sekulow," i'm here. will haynes is here.
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  • Four articles of impeachment have been filed
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  • Against governor tim walz in minnesota.
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  • This is obviously following the whole fraud scandal.
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  • The articles, the first one,
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  • Violation of oath of office through concealment of fraud.
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  • That's how it opens.
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  • Now what does it look like? what does it mean?
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  • Could it actually get through?
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  • Maybe more likely than you'd think.
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  • Now will it end in a result of him
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  • Being removed from office?
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  • Well, it's politics.
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  • So i'd say that the odds are unlikely.
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  • But it's another push that could maybe at least drive him,
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  • Decide whether he wants to finish his term.
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  • - that's right.
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  • So what we're looking at here is four articles
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  • Of impeachment filed against governor tim walz in minnesota.
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  • This is an effort led by state representative mark warner.
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  • And this all comes out of the fraud investigations
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  • That are going on and ongoing still into minnesota.
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  • What we have here is article one,
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  • Violation of oath of office through concealment of fraud.
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  • Article two, interference with oversight of investigations.
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  • Article three, prioritizing political considerations
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  • Over lawful administration.
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  • And article four, failure to steward public funds,
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  • Which i think of all of them,
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  • I feel like article four is on its face,
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  • The most easily provable, based off,
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  • Especially the whistleblowers that have said multiple times
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  • That they were made aware of this and yet did nothing.
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  • - 'cause that's the big one.
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  • The big one that you really look at.
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  • And you obviously they're saying,
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  • Concealment of fraud, all these things.
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  • But the one thing we can at least probably all agree on
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  • Is that the oversight was just simply not there.
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  • - [will] right.
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  • - that no one was really checking up on it,
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  • Or the people that were checking up on it
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  • Weren't doing a very good job at it.
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  • So you're right.
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  • When it comes to article four,
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  • Failure to steward public funds, i mean,
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  • I think negligence is very easily provable in this moment.
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  • Now the others are a little more political.
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  • We'll see what they say. we'll see where it ends up.
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  • But there's also an interesting thing where you told me,
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  • Will, that the people who would be deciding on this,
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  • The majority are republicans.
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  • - that's right.
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  • So when you look at it,
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  • How does impeachment work in minnesota?
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  • We are very familiar here with impeachment
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  • In the us house of representatives on the national level.
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  • Well, it's very similar in the state level in minnesota.
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  • So articles of impeachment based off of article eight
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  • Of the minnesota constitution, they begin,
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  • As it does federally, in the state house of representatives.
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  • An impeachment is brought there,
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  • And then it is decided through a concurrence
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  • Of the house of representatives.
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  • A majority, simple majority, is all you need to get there.
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  • Right now, the breakdown in the minnesota house,
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  • They have 134 potential seats.
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  • The republicans hold 67, the democrats have 65,
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  • And there are two vacant seats.
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  • So as of right now,
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  • The republicans have a two seat majority,
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  • Meaning there is a pathway where this could not
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  • Just be articles of impeachment introduced,
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  • But an impeached governor,
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  • Which then goes to trial in the minnesota senate.
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  • Now, - [logan] yeah.
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  • - the breakdown there, there are 34 democrats,
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  • And 33 republicans, so a majority held by democrats.
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  • However, very similar to what we have in the us senate,
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  • Needing a conviction on the presidential level,
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  • You have to have a trial,
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  • And then a conviction by two thirds of the senators present.
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  • So a little bit harder. - that may be unlikely,
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  • But it does say proceedings could get underway next month.
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  • That's when the house reconvenes.
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  • And the state will hold a trial and determine, as you said,
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  • Whether he is guilty,
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  • In order to be potentially removed from office.
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  • But in general, we know that this process is not fun
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  • For anyone to be involved in.
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  • So it does beg the question of how far can,
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  • Even just the threat,
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  • The loom of having a impeachment trial,
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  • What does it mean for you?
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  • Now tim walz has obviously said not guilty.
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  • And he's obviously said, "i'm not going anywhere."
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  • We'll be right back with more on "sekulow."
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  • - articles of impeachment have been filed in minnesota
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  • Against tim walz.
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  • The first one is about fraud.
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  • There's many different options.
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  • The last one is at least about negligence.
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  • And we'll just uncover something interesting.
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  • Look, we're not legal experts here
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  • In terms of the exact details of this.
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  • But there are some caveats in the law
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  • That may actually lead to not necessarily
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  • The removal of office from tim walz,
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  • But from a suspension of office.
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  • - [will] that's right. - from tim walz.
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  • - that's right.
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  • So when you look at the article eight
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  • Of the constitution of minnesota,
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  • The entire article specifically deals with impeachment
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  • And removal of office.
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  • So it goes over the impeachment powers in section one
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  • About house of representatives
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  • Having the sole power of impeaching
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  • Through concurrence of a majority of all its members,
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  • And then it being tried in the senate,
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  • And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence
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  • Of two-thirds of the senators present.
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  • - [logan] yeah, we discussed this in the last segment.
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  • - exactly. - very standard,
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  • Similar to the presidency of the united states,
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  • Which a lot of us became very familiar with a few years ago.
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  • - but what is interesting
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  • And what does differ from the us constitution
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  • When it comes to impeachment is section three.
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  • Section three of article eight
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  • Of the minnesota constitution says "suspension.
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  • No officer shall exercise the duties of his office
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  • After he has been impeached and before his acquittal."
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  • So what it appears to read here is that the constitution
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  • Allows for the suspension of, it would appear,
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  • The governor, or any officer that has been impeached
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  • While they are awaiting the adjudication
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  • Through the trial in the senate.
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  • And then if they are acquitted, resume their duties.
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  • If they are not acquitted, obviously,
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  • They're removed from office.
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  • So i feel like that caveat there
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  • Makes it a lot more higher stakes than it necessarily is
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  • In the us impeachment in the federal level,
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  • Because of that suspension level.
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  • Now they do have to serve the individual
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  • After they have been impeached within 20 days.
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  • I feel like it'll be a lot quicker than that,
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  • Where they would would-
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  • - [logan] yeah, it seems like it's really fast.
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  • - deliver the articles of impeachment.
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  • But once again,
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  • We've seen how a federal trial in the us senate
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  • At that level of impeachment, it takes time.
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  • They impeached the president in that first term.
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  • Then there was a little bit of delay
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  • Of when the articles of impeachment
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  • Were marched over to the senate.
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  • Then they get it all set up, and then it took several weeks.
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  • So potentially at the time
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  • Where you are seeing a lot of chaos in minnesota,
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  • Not just at the level of the fraud issue,
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  • But with all of the ice things,
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  • All of the stuff that's going on,
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  • That they could be potentially without a governor
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  • Being suspended during this time, for a matter of weeks.
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  • - yeah, so does that push this situation
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  • Where tim walz who already announced he's running again,
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  • Does this push him to potentially decide to step aside?
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  • That's a question i'm sure a lot of minnesotans are asking.
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  • I'm seeing a lot of them in the chat right now.
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  • If you are in minnesota,
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  • And you're listening, or watching right now,
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  • I would love you to call in and gimme your thoughts.
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  • On the ground feedback is always a little bit different
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  • Than what we get from the national news.
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  • So let me know what you think.
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  • Do you feel like this has any legs?
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  • Do you want it to have legs?
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  • Maybe you're burned out by the impeachment process
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  • From president trump.
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  • Maybe you think this doesn't qualify there.
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  • Because look, as we said,
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  • There's four articles of impeachment here.
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  • One of them we feel like is pretty darn clear.
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  • Which is failure to steward public funds,
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  • Which essentially neglecting his job,
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  • And making sure public funds were spent appropriately.
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  • Now you go through fraud, covering fraud, all those things,
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  • Those are a bit more speculative.
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  • There will have to be a trial.
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  • There will have to be evidence.
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  • But it is not fun to go through this.
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  • And i don't, i feel maybe for tim walz only in that,
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  • That this is not a fun process
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  • To put you and your family through.
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  • But you know what?
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  • The people of minnesota clearly have had enough.
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  • I also think this shows the broad scale of american politics
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  • When it comes to these states.
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  • 'cause you think of minnesota as a pretty blue state,
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  • In terms of, i mean yes,
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  • There's been times where it's gone more republican.
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  • It is more, maybe you could say it's midwestern,
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  • Blue collar.
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  • It definitely isn't as full blown as you'd expect.
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  • But when you actually look at the house,
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  • And the way that they are going, there's quite a few,
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  • There's more republicans at this point
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  • That counterbalance what's going on.
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  • It's much like many states.
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  • It's kind of a 50/50, 60/40 kind of situation.
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  • - well, and on national level, yes,
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  • It is definitely more of a blue state.
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  • You don't see it as a type of swing state
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  • Like michigan has been, like wisconsin has been recently,
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  • Of those midwest states.
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  • - [logan] it always kind of feels like it should be though.
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  • - well, and once again, even their democrat party,
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  • There is the democrat farm-labor party.
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  • It's not even the democrat party of minnesota.
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  • It has its own unique name, the farm-labor party.
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  • Which is interesting
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  • Because i feel like the majority of those in agriculture
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  • In minnesota are no longer represented by the democrat party
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  • As it is today.
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  • And especially with how liberal and how far left it's gone.
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  • There's a lot of rural area in minnesota.
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  • But yes, the population centers are still very liberal.
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  • When it comes to a national election, a federal election,
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  • They are typically going to go more blue.
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  • But you do have to realize,
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  • When you're talking about micro level representation,
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  • You are talking about people
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  • Being able to select the representatives in a state house.
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  • Yeah, they probably are gonna have a lot more option
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  • For conservative representation in the state.
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  • And that's what you see here with 134 potential seats
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  • In the house of the minnesota representatives.
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  • There are 67 republicans,
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  • There are 65 with the democrat party,
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  • And then two vacant seats.
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  • Meaning, i mean,
  • 00:10:20.525 --> 00:10:21.960
  • If the democrats picked those up in a special election
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  • Or something, you're tied. - [logan] yeah.
  • 00:10:24.195 --> 00:10:25.897
  • - at very best, you're tied in this minnesota state house.
  • 00:10:25.897 --> 00:10:29.200
  • So it is a fascinating thing as it stands.
  • 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.036
  • There is a two seat majority by republicans.
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  • That means there is a, just on partisan lines,
  • 00:10:35.406 --> 00:10:38.777
  • A very good chance that governor tim walz,
  • 00:10:38.777 --> 00:10:41.780
  • In an election year,
  • 00:10:41.780 --> 00:10:43.047
  • Remember, he just dropped out of the race.
  • 00:10:43.047 --> 00:10:45.316
  • - [logan] yeah. so he's gonna be done.
  • 00:10:45.316 --> 00:10:46.918
  • - this is gonna be- - [logan] months regardless.
  • 00:10:46.918 --> 00:10:48.186
  • - a stain on the party as well
  • 00:10:48.186 --> 00:10:50.355
  • That he could be impeached during this election year.
  • 00:10:50.355 --> 00:10:53.925
  • - i wanna take a call coming in from minnesota.
  • 00:10:53.925 --> 00:10:55.593
  • Let's go to jason. jason, you're on the air.
  • 00:10:55.593 --> 00:10:58.596
  • - [jason] yeah, so i just want to say
  • 00:10:58.596 --> 00:11:01.266
  • That the people of minnesota
  • 00:11:01.266 --> 00:11:03.902
  • Has seen this coming for a long time.
  • 00:11:03.902 --> 00:11:07.539
  • We've seen the fraud, even at the county level.
  • 00:11:07.539 --> 00:11:11.342
  • We've seen it for years.
  • 00:11:11.342 --> 00:11:13.244
  • It's a joke that we talk about at the bar.
  • 00:11:13.244 --> 00:11:16.915
  • We're just ready to be over and done with this.
  • 00:11:17.849 --> 00:11:20.819
  • - [logan] yeah. - [jason] we know it's there.
  • 00:11:20.819 --> 00:11:22.287
  • We just want it to be over and done with.
  • 00:11:22.287 --> 00:11:24.522
  • We're sick and tired of it.
  • 00:11:24.522 --> 00:11:25.890
  • - i guess that's gonna be the definition of
  • 00:11:25.890 --> 00:11:27.225
  • What does over and done with it mean?
  • 00:11:27.225 --> 00:11:29.194
  • Because you could have over and done with it.
  • 00:11:29.194 --> 00:11:31.429
  • He's impeached.
  • 00:11:31.429 --> 00:11:32.797
  • You could have over and done with it as tim waltz
  • 00:11:32.797 --> 00:11:34.332
  • Is gonna be out in eight months anyway, or 10 months anyway.
  • 00:11:34.332 --> 00:11:36.801
  • - well, and i have a question for you, jason, as well.
  • 00:11:36.801 --> 00:11:38.903
  • Because once again, tim walz was running for reelection.
  • 00:11:38.903 --> 00:11:42.540
  • Now he's trying to open up
  • 00:11:42.540 --> 00:11:44.542
  • For a potential different democrat candidate
  • 00:11:44.542 --> 00:11:47.779
  • To retain the governorship there.
  • 00:11:47.779 --> 00:11:50.348
  • Are you hearing a lot of people
  • 00:11:50.348 --> 00:11:51.716
  • That are fed up with the party, not just tim walz,
  • 00:11:51.716 --> 00:11:55.286
  • That want to see a difference
  • 00:11:55.286 --> 00:11:57.622
  • And a change in leadership in the state?
  • 00:11:57.622 --> 00:11:59.924
  • - [jason] so yes, i've been hearing it from a lot of people,
  • 00:12:01.092 --> 00:12:04.996
  • But a lot of people are terrified of amy klobuchar.
  • 00:12:04.996 --> 00:12:10.602
  • - [will] yeah.
  • 00:12:10.969 --> 00:12:12.270
  • - they know that's who's gonna be running next.
  • 00:12:12.270 --> 00:12:15.473
  • And they're terrified of it.
  • 00:12:15.473 --> 00:12:17.342
  • And i'm from northern minnesota.
  • 00:12:17.342 --> 00:12:19.711
  • And we know that we don't matter.
  • 00:12:20.378 --> 00:12:24.215
  • It's minneapolis and st paul. that's all that matters.
  • 00:12:25.316 --> 00:12:28.453
  • And we're sick of it. we're sick of all the fraud.
  • 00:12:29.454 --> 00:12:33.424
  • We're sick of them shipping voters in,
  • 00:12:33.424 --> 00:12:37.695
  • Because that's what it amounts to.
  • 00:12:38.463 --> 00:12:40.531
  • - well, and jason,
  • 00:12:40.531 --> 00:12:41.966
  • And that's what we were basically referencing earlier.
  • 00:12:41.966 --> 00:12:43.801
  • There's a lot of rural area,
  • 00:12:43.801 --> 00:12:45.470
  • A lot of other places in minnesota
  • 00:12:45.470 --> 00:12:47.605
  • That aren't necessarily seen as getting representation
  • 00:12:47.605 --> 00:12:50.642
  • On the national stage when it comes to congressmen,
  • 00:12:50.642 --> 00:12:54.078
  • When it comes to their senators.
  • 00:12:54.078 --> 00:12:56.114
  • But when it comes to the local representation,
  • 00:12:56.114 --> 00:12:58.483
  • That's why you see it a lot closer in the state house
  • 00:12:58.483 --> 00:13:01.686
  • And even in the minnesota senate.
  • 00:13:01.686 --> 00:13:03.354
  • They only have a one seat majority of the democrats.
  • 00:13:03.354 --> 00:13:05.857
  • But as jason points out,
  • 00:13:05.857 --> 00:13:07.425
  • The big name that people are referencing is amy klobuchar,
  • 00:13:07.425 --> 00:13:10.561
  • Who is the senator from minnesota currently,
  • 00:13:10.561 --> 00:13:13.298
  • Obviously has won statewide elections there before.
  • 00:13:13.298 --> 00:13:15.800
  • - yeah, i mean, a nationally known name.
  • 00:13:15.800 --> 00:13:17.402
  • - exactly.
  • 00:13:17.402 --> 00:13:18.670
  • And when it comes to name recognition alone,
  • 00:13:18.670 --> 00:13:20.038
  • Being on ballot for a governor race,
  • 00:13:20.038 --> 00:13:22.974
  • I think jason pointed out very well,
  • 00:13:22.974 --> 00:13:24.976
  • And i'm glad that he called in that yeah,
  • 00:13:24.976 --> 00:13:26.778
  • If you are a conservative,
  • 00:13:26.778 --> 00:13:28.046
  • That probably is the name you are scared of.
  • 00:13:28.046 --> 00:13:30.214
  • You're not scared of them going further left on paper,
  • 00:13:30.214 --> 00:13:33.518
  • Like some of the representatives that you've seen there.
  • 00:13:33.518 --> 00:13:36.154
  • The attorney general there being keith ellison.
  • 00:13:36.154 --> 00:13:38.723
  • You know that that is the state
  • 00:13:38.723 --> 00:13:40.858
  • Where ilhan omar is a representative from.
  • 00:13:40.858 --> 00:13:43.928
  • I don't think that the state probably
  • 00:13:43.928 --> 00:13:45.463
  • Is as concerned about them going on paper that far left.
  • 00:13:45.463 --> 00:13:48.566
  • But it is when you have an establishment democrat
  • 00:13:48.566 --> 00:13:50.969
  • Like amy klobuchar,
  • 00:13:50.969 --> 00:13:52.303
  • That could potentially win the governorship.
  • 00:13:52.303 --> 00:14:00.004
  • That could potentially win the governorship.
  • 00:14:00.004 --> 00:14:00.728
  • (gentle music)
  • 00:14:01.095 --> 00:14:02.964
  • - welcome back to "sekulow."
  • 00:14:02.964 --> 00:14:04.432
  • We're gonna stick on this topic for right now,
  • 00:14:04.432 --> 00:14:05.833
  • 'cause so many of you're watching,
  • 00:14:05.833 --> 00:14:06.834
  • And are calling in about it.
  • 00:14:06.834 --> 00:14:08.236
  • Let's go ahead and, well actually,
  • 00:14:08.236 --> 00:14:09.904
  • We'll take calls in a few minutes.
  • 00:14:09.904 --> 00:14:11.005
  • I think we do need to discuss this,
  • 00:14:11.005 --> 00:14:12.607
  • 'cause there's four articles of impeachment
  • 00:14:12.607 --> 00:14:14.175
  • That have been filed against tim walz, and what those are.
  • 00:14:14.175 --> 00:14:17.712
  • And then some people said,
  • 00:14:17.712 --> 00:14:18.813
  • "well, all four sound legitimate."
  • 00:14:18.813 --> 00:14:19.781
  • That's not what we're saying.
  • 00:14:19.781 --> 00:14:21.082
  • We're not saying they don't sound legitimate.
  • 00:14:21.082 --> 00:14:22.450
  • We're saying there's one that i think is clear cut.
  • 00:14:22.450 --> 00:14:25.353
  • 'cause you look at the situation here, the first one,
  • 00:14:25.353 --> 00:14:27.955
  • Violation of oath of office through concealment of fraud.
  • 00:14:27.955 --> 00:14:30.391
  • That's something they're gonna have to fight out.
  • 00:14:30.391 --> 00:14:31.692
  • Whether this was intentional.
  • 00:14:31.692 --> 00:14:33.161
  • It accuses walz of knowingly concealing,
  • 00:14:33.161 --> 00:14:37.065
  • Or permitting the concealment of fraud in state programs,
  • 00:14:37.065 --> 00:14:41.436
  • Ignoring repeated warnings.
  • 00:14:41.436 --> 00:14:42.770
  • We did hear about them from the last caller,
  • 00:14:42.770 --> 00:14:44.072
  • That there have been warnings. - [will] right.
  • 00:14:44.072 --> 00:14:46.174
  • - i'm not saying you can't get them there. you likely could!
  • 00:14:46.174 --> 00:14:49.210
  • But that one is obviously has to be argued out.
  • 00:14:49.210 --> 00:14:52.914
  • The second one is interference
  • 00:14:52.914 --> 00:14:54.015
  • With oversight and investigations.
  • 00:14:54.015 --> 00:14:55.349
  • Charges walz with obstructing,
  • 00:14:55.349 --> 00:14:56.818
  • Interfering with lawful oversight.
  • 00:14:56.818 --> 00:14:58.052
  • Again, you gotta prove that.
  • 00:14:58.052 --> 00:14:59.720
  • Third, prioritizing political consideration
  • 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:01.889
  • Over lawful administration.
  • 00:15:01.889 --> 00:15:03.357
  • Alleges that tim walz placed political narratives
  • 00:15:03.357 --> 00:15:05.693
  • In consideration above the proper administration
  • 00:15:05.693 --> 00:15:07.628
  • Of state programs.
  • 00:15:07.628 --> 00:15:08.596
  • Again, very likely.
  • 00:15:08.596 --> 00:15:10.198
  • The fourth one though, is just, i mean,
  • 00:15:10.198 --> 00:15:12.333
  • I think this one's so clear cut.
  • 00:15:12.333 --> 00:15:14.535
  • Of course you still have to argue it out.
  • 00:15:14.535 --> 00:15:16.571
  • But i mean, from what everything we've seen,
  • 00:15:16.571 --> 00:15:18.439
  • Which is at least article four,
  • 00:15:18.439 --> 00:15:19.841
  • Failure to steward public funds,
  • 00:15:19.841 --> 00:15:22.009
  • Accuses tim walz of neglecting his duty
  • 00:15:22.009 --> 00:15:23.811
  • To faithfully execute law from protecting public funds.
  • 00:15:23.811 --> 00:15:27.748
  • Which again, shows where they went to places
  • 00:15:27.748 --> 00:15:30.351
  • They should not have gone to.
  • 00:15:30.351 --> 00:15:32.153
  • I think that one's pretty clear.
  • 00:15:32.153 --> 00:15:33.688
  • I think universally, we can probably all agree on that.
  • 00:15:33.688 --> 00:15:35.389
  • Whether you're a democrat or republican,
  • 00:15:35.389 --> 00:15:37.024
  • That the oversight for this fraud was there, it existed.
  • 00:15:37.024 --> 00:15:42.363
  • That doesn't mean you can't push forward.
  • 00:15:43.264 --> 00:15:44.699
  • You got a republican-led house that can make this call
  • 00:15:44.699 --> 00:15:48.636
  • And then it moves on to a democrat.
  • 00:15:48.636 --> 00:15:50.805
  • But as will said, there's some interesting caveats in this,
  • 00:15:50.805 --> 00:15:53.674
  • Which includes a suspension essentially,
  • 00:15:53.674 --> 00:15:56.511
  • Until a conviction is or isn't made.
  • 00:15:56.511 --> 00:15:59.280
  • Now could that be months? yeah.
  • 00:15:59.280 --> 00:16:00.414
  • Could it be days? who knows?
  • 00:16:00.414 --> 00:16:01.883
  • This is a little bit different in terms of the state.
  • 00:16:01.883 --> 00:16:04.085
  • - well, and here's the other problem as well.
  • 00:16:04.085 --> 00:16:06.587
  • Once you go through all those others, as you said,
  • 00:16:06.587 --> 00:16:09.423
  • They will mount a defense if it goes to a trial
  • 00:16:09.423 --> 00:16:13.027
  • In the senate, which based off just the party line,
  • 00:16:13.027 --> 00:16:16.230
  • It appears they could impeach him.
  • 00:16:16.230 --> 00:16:19.200
  • But once again, that failure to steward public funds.
  • 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:23.938
  • As our previous caller called and said,
  • 00:16:24.739 --> 00:16:26.407
  • When are we gonna start seeing people of integrity stand up
  • 00:16:26.407 --> 00:16:28.743
  • And not just vote party line,
  • 00:16:28.743 --> 00:16:29.844
  • Especially on things like this?
  • 00:16:29.844 --> 00:16:31.712
  • Because the failure to steward public funds,
  • 00:16:31.712 --> 00:16:34.382
  • It accuses walz of neglecting his duty
  • 00:16:34.382 --> 00:16:36.617
  • To faithfully execute laws, protecting public funds,
  • 00:16:36.617 --> 00:16:40.288
  • Resulting in weakened safeguards, ignored protocols,
  • 00:16:40.288 --> 00:16:43.958
  • And unchecked dissipation of billions in taxpayer money
  • 00:16:43.958 --> 00:16:47.895
  • Through fraudulent activities
  • 00:16:47.895 --> 00:16:49.530
  • And multiple state initiatives.
  • 00:16:49.530 --> 00:16:51.766
  • This was a state
  • 00:16:51.766 --> 00:16:53.100
  • That was projected to have a $17 billion surplus,
  • 00:16:54.101 --> 00:16:58.372
  • Is now being projected to have a $4 billion deficit.
  • 00:16:58.372 --> 00:17:03.711
  • So when you talk about the swing of the state,
  • 00:17:04.612 --> 00:17:07.215
  • And where are those high costs going?
  • 00:17:07.215 --> 00:17:09.584
  • Areas of healthcare, areas of medicaid, areas of education,
  • 00:17:09.584 --> 00:17:14.922
  • All the places where we were seeing
  • 00:17:15.690 --> 00:17:17.725
  • These reports of fraud come up.
  • 00:17:17.725 --> 00:17:20.127
  • So on the surface of it,
  • 00:17:20.127 --> 00:17:22.196
  • The failure to steward public funds,
  • 00:17:22.196 --> 00:17:24.532
  • If your state is thriving financially,
  • 00:17:24.532 --> 00:17:27.969
  • Has surpluses in their budget, and then all of a sudden,
  • 00:17:27.969 --> 00:17:31.739
  • You're projecting billions of dollars in deficit,
  • 00:17:31.739 --> 00:17:35.176
  • Yeah, it sounds like the leadership failed
  • 00:17:35.176 --> 00:17:39.146
  • To steward the public funds.
  • 00:17:39.146 --> 00:17:41.182
  • And where did those funds go?
  • 00:17:41.182 --> 00:17:42.717
  • It wasn't just on bridges to nowhere, or things of that,
  • 00:17:42.717 --> 00:17:45.486
  • The classic political waste projects.
  • 00:17:45.486 --> 00:17:48.322
  • It went to things where there were fraudsters,
  • 00:17:48.322 --> 00:17:50.791
  • That because of your weakened safeguards,
  • 00:17:50.791 --> 00:17:53.861
  • - [logan] potentially funding very bad things.
  • 00:17:53.861 --> 00:17:55.463
  • - and ignored protocols,
  • 00:17:55.463 --> 00:17:58.532
  • It led in the hands of thieves, fraudsters,
  • 00:17:58.532 --> 00:18:01.636
  • Who stole the hardworking minnesotans' taxpayer dollars
  • 00:18:01.636 --> 00:18:06.474
  • And the rest of the country, by the way,
  • 00:18:06.474 --> 00:18:08.476
  • 'cause a lot of this was federal monies going into the state
  • 00:18:08.476 --> 00:18:12.013
  • Distributed by the government of the state.
  • 00:18:12.013 --> 00:18:15.416
  • So all of our taxpayer dollars too
  • 00:18:15.416 --> 00:18:17.418
  • Are being stolen by thieves.
  • 00:18:17.418 --> 00:18:19.887
  • People who are enriching themselves
  • 00:18:19.887 --> 00:18:22.156
  • Off of the hardworking minnesotans and americans
  • 00:18:22.156 --> 00:18:25.693
  • That pay their taxes,
  • 00:18:25.693 --> 00:18:27.295
  • And expect the leadership to at very minimum,
  • 00:18:27.295 --> 00:18:30.164
  • Have safeguards and protocols up
  • 00:18:30.164 --> 00:18:32.900
  • That don't allow it to get just stolen
  • 00:18:32.900 --> 00:18:35.236
  • To the tune of $9 billion, at least.
  • 00:18:35.236 --> 00:18:39.740
  • That's what we were hearing from the assistant us attorney.
  • 00:18:39.740 --> 00:18:42.576
  • So once again, as you said,
  • 00:18:42.576 --> 00:18:44.645
  • If there are people of integrity,
  • 00:18:44.645 --> 00:18:47.748
  • Also just knowing it's his last year in office,
  • 00:18:47.748 --> 00:18:50.918
  • Yeah, how do you not have more senators
  • 00:18:50.918 --> 00:18:54.455
  • In the minnesota senate that are democrats,
  • 00:18:54.455 --> 00:18:57.658
  • - [logan] that are on the line.
  • 00:18:57.658 --> 00:18:59.126
  • - that are in the democrat farm-labor party that say,
  • 00:18:59.126 --> 00:19:01.062
  • "you know what?
  • 00:19:01.062 --> 00:19:02.463
  • Yeah, at very minimum, article four, impeach him,
  • 00:19:02.463 --> 00:19:05.599
  • Convict him, throw him outta office."
  • 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:07.034
  • - well, i think this is where it's time
  • 00:19:07.034 --> 00:19:08.269
  • For minnesotans to step up.
  • 00:19:08.269 --> 00:19:09.770
  • If you have one of these people in your area,
  • 00:19:09.770 --> 00:19:11.272
  • Let them know how you feel.
  • 00:19:11.272 --> 00:19:12.773
  • If you believe that there's been this massive fraud,
  • 00:19:12.773 --> 00:19:15.409
  • They're gonna go a bit with how their constituents say,
  • 00:19:15.409 --> 00:19:19.480
  • Specifically heading into midterms.
  • 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:20.915
  • I don't know who's up, who's not up.
  • 00:19:20.915 --> 00:19:22.817
  • But there are major political consequences.
  • 00:19:22.817 --> 00:19:25.419
  • So step up, speak out.
  • 00:19:25.419 --> 00:19:27.154
  • If you're in minnesota right now, you gotta get involved.
  • 00:19:27.154 --> 00:19:29.590
  • Let's go to ronald in south carolina watching on rumble.
  • 00:19:29.590 --> 00:19:31.859
  • Ronald, go ahead.
  • 00:19:31.859 --> 00:19:33.227
  • - [ronald] yes, thanks for taking my call.
  • 00:19:33.227 --> 00:19:34.562
  • Something almost like this was happening
  • 00:19:34.562 --> 00:19:37.064
  • In south carolina way back when.
  • 00:19:37.064 --> 00:19:38.332
  • - [logan] right.
  • 00:19:38.332 --> 00:19:39.433
  • - [ronald] obama's time it was,
  • 00:19:39.433 --> 00:19:40.735
  • That what they call reconstruction funding
  • 00:19:40.735 --> 00:19:43.838
  • That was going up to all the states.
  • 00:19:43.838 --> 00:19:46.040
  • And then governor mark sanford,
  • 00:19:46.040 --> 00:19:48.542
  • He wanted to use it to help the residents
  • 00:19:48.542 --> 00:19:51.679
  • By buying down the taxes and stuff like that.
  • 00:19:51.679 --> 00:19:55.583
  • So, but what it came down to was he was literally told
  • 00:19:55.583 --> 00:19:58.919
  • By the federal government,
  • 00:19:58.919 --> 00:20:00.054
  • "you must use this to create jobs
  • 00:20:00.054 --> 00:20:01.555
  • And this, that and the other."
  • 00:20:01.555 --> 00:20:02.923
  • So what he wanted to do first
  • 00:20:02.923 --> 00:20:05.126
  • Before he dispersed that money,
  • 00:20:05.126 --> 00:20:07.128
  • Was to have all the agencies do their budget,
  • 00:20:07.128 --> 00:20:10.564
  • Their yearly budget.
  • 00:20:10.564 --> 00:20:12.099
  • And because many of those had top-heavy administration,
  • 00:20:12.099 --> 00:20:16.203
  • Which meant that if the money comes in,
  • 00:20:16.203 --> 00:20:17.838
  • Much of it's gonna be absorbed
  • 00:20:17.838 --> 00:20:19.273
  • By the high priced administrators on the top,
  • 00:20:19.273 --> 00:20:24.078
  • And would not get to the people.
  • 00:20:24.078 --> 00:20:26.147
  • And so you want to try and prevent that.
  • 00:20:26.147 --> 00:20:28.182
  • So that was one point where he was really trying to manage
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  • What was coming into the state to help the state,
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  • And not to hurt the state.
  • 00:20:35.089 --> 00:20:36.957
  • - well, and once again,
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  • But what do you see in administrative state
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  • Whenever you try to do things that could benefit the people,
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  • Instead of just going, being a clearing house
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  • For ngos that take grants.
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  • You get pushback. you get pushback at every level.
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  • You get pushback at the federal government,
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  • At the state level from the bureaucracy.
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  • What you saw though in minnesota
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  • Was that actually the people
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  • Within the state administration,
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  • Which is actually kind of rare, these days,
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  • To see, and refreshing to see.
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  • Many of whom are democrats in the state government
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  • Have been saying,
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  • "we've been telling tim walz this for years!
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  • We've been telling his administration!
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  • We've been blowing the whistle on this.
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  • Many of us were punished
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  • For trying to bring this to the light of day."
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  • And so what happens now?
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  • It gets to this point where it's a national story.
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  • Some fraud within a state government
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  • Typically is not national story.
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  • It's not something that people care about.
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  • If you talk about fraud at a governor level,
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  • Or a city level, in a state that isn't maybe new york,
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  • Or california or florida.
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  • It is a something that typically
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  • Is only cared about in the local news.
  • 00:21:50.231 --> 00:21:53.367
  • This has ballooned so much because the amount is shocking.
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  • Logan talks about a billion is all the time,
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  • Which is almost, it is almost comical
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  • That we talk about billions of dollars as if it's nothing,
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  • When you think about how large those numbers are.
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  • And when the assistant us attorney
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  • Said that half of the federal dollars that went there,
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  • Which was 18 billion, which is hard to fathom,
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  • Was taken by fraudsters, was stolen.
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  • That's a 50% loss rate by those that are in control,
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  • And supposed to have the mechanisms
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  • To make sure it's not stolen.
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  • That's incredible.
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  • No one, any corporation, if you were in the loss department,
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  • And just trying to make sure
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  • That there was not theft prevention.
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  • Imagine if you were at a drug store,
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  • And 50% of your cvs's stock was stolen, and they're like,
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  • "nah, you can keep your job though."
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  • That's what we're talking about here.
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  • Anywhere else, you would be out of a job,
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  • And your resume would be torched for the rest of your life.
  • 00:22:56.864 --> 00:22:58.966
  • You would never be able to get another job.
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  • "how did you lose your job?"
  • 00:23:00.267 --> 00:23:01.702
  • "well, i oversaw the loss retention,
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  • And 50% of our inventory was taken."
  • 00:23:06.574 --> 00:23:09.443
  • - let's go to tom in california.
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  • Watching on rumble. go ahead, tom.
  • 00:23:11.078 --> 00:23:13.113
  • - [tom] good morning, gentlemen.
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  • Great job, great job. keep up the good work.
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  • I'm an older guy.
  • 00:23:17.551 --> 00:23:19.186
  • I've been through a lot of corruption and scandals.
  • 00:23:19.186 --> 00:23:22.656
  • Watched it, and observed it.
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  • And what i wanna know is,
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  • As long as evil and corruption and greed
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  • Has been in existence,
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  • Which is go back to the beginning of mankind and time,
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  • Why do we not have laws and people
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  • That can keep this from happening?
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  • I believe everybody, i'm an independent voter.
  • 00:23:42.109 --> 00:23:44.612
  • I believe everybody in congress should resign
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  • For allowing this fraud to go on and continue.
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  • And after this one, there'll be another one,
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  • Another one, another one.
  • 00:23:52.353 --> 00:23:53.454
  • And the only way, in my opinion,
  • 00:23:53.454 --> 00:23:55.322
  • To stop it, is put 'em in prison,
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  • Take away all their retirement benefits,
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  • And any financial gain they have made from being in office
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  • And stick 'em away as a felon.
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  • God bless.
  • 00:24:06.333 --> 00:24:07.801
  • - look, tom, i understand the frustration, and look,
  • 00:24:07.801 --> 00:24:10.104
  • I have a lot of feelings on washington d.c.
  • 00:24:10.104 --> 00:24:11.939
  • There's a reason that my studio here in the media center
  • 00:24:11.939 --> 00:24:14.041
  • Is not in washington d.c.
  • 00:24:14.041 --> 00:24:15.876
  • It would make sense for us to be in washington d.c.
  • 00:24:15.876 --> 00:24:17.745
  • We do obviously have our studio there.
  • 00:24:17.745 --> 00:24:19.246
  • We saw j.b. earlier from our studio in washington d.c.
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  • There is a heaviness and a darkness
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  • That is upon that city at all times,
  • 00:24:24.518 --> 00:24:26.153
  • Regardless, honestly, of who's in office.
  • 00:24:26.153 --> 00:24:28.022
  • There is so much dirty business going on
  • 00:24:28.022 --> 00:24:32.359
  • That it is hard to escape the funk.
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  • It kind of permeates into your life.
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  • I'm not a fan, as you've heard.
  • 00:24:38.399 --> 00:24:40.467
  • You've heard rick grenell say the same thing.
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  • He tries to spend as much time in california as he can,
  • 00:24:42.002 --> 00:24:44.204
  • Even if the job takes him there.
  • 00:24:44.204 --> 00:24:45.639
  • And the job does take us there obviously, quite a bit.
  • 00:24:45.639 --> 00:24:48.175
  • But tom, i understand that frustration,
  • 00:24:48.175 --> 00:24:49.476
  • That it feels like that nothing ever gets done,
  • 00:24:49.476 --> 00:24:51.278
  • Or that this corruption has been there the whole time,
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  • And we've just kinda had to accept it in politics.
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  • For providing this time to us at no cost so we
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  • Can update you on the most important issues of the day.
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  • From all of us at the aclj, thanks, tbn.
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