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- welcome to sekulow.
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It is going to be a packed one.
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Don't wanna miss it.
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This is very interesting timing, to say the least.
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As even you have, you know, fox, you know, is there,
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You got all the commentators
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Are flying over to china, to beijing.
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Bill hemmer is over there hanging out.
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And at the same time here in america,
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Of course president trump is headed to china.
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We'll discuss all the details of what that is,
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What they're referring to as with a summit, right?
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High stakes summit. - that's right.
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- that we keep hearing about of what's going on in china.
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Could be a very big leap
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In what our relationship is with china.
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And at the same time,
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And i only chuckle at this
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'cause it just, you couldn't write it better.
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A mayor of a southern california city
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Outside of los angeles.
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Arcadia of course is not a, i mean it's not a big city,
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But certainly not a small city as well.
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It's a major area.
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Has admitted, pleading guilty.
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Again, this is an elected official, a mayor,
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Of being a spy for china.
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This is coming out of the news this morning.
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And this is the real deal.
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This is happening.
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This is in our conspiracy theories.
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This is some sort of version.
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This is by, the quote is,
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"by her own admission,
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"eileen wang secretly served the interest
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"of the chinese government."
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And it gets even deeper than that.
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- that's right.
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So what we've got on one hand
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Is the president going over for this summit with xi jinping
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Taking over a roster of american ceos.
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This is to try and kind of settle
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Some of the economic differences
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Between the two countries.
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At the same time you have this plea agreement that came out.
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This is between the united states of america
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And eileen wang, who was the mayor of arcadia, california.
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Before that, she was on the city council there
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And is pleading guilty to charges of being a foreign agent
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Of the chinese communist party.
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The prc was directing her actions going back as far as,
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At least in the allegations here, 2020.
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Very interesting time that eileen wang
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Was at the direction of the prc.
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And you read some of these going back and forth
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And where she's responding with like, thank you leader,
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To the person who's giving her the directions.
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Like this wasn't just a, i'll do this,
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This was in the government, like even, protocol,
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The way you think of a chinese spy
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Responding to their handler
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To push propaganda in the united states.
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Very interesting time for this elected official
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Also to be doing that
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During 2020 when maybe china needed some pr
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In the united states.
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- i mean, this is what it says.
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Says the agreement states that wang,
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And soon this is her, who she's working with,
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Received and executed directives
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From the prc government officials
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To post pro prc content on the website.
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And then sometimes sought permission
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From the chinese government officials
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To post content as well.
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So not only distributing content that was clearly made
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To be distributed by the prc,
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Also sought permission to post other content.
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So again, when you're talking about there's control,
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I mean this is happening again,
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And this is probably one in a million
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That's happening out a million,
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But this is probably a very small example
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Of what the influence is of,
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You could say china and other
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Foreign leaders throughout the world,
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- right.
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It's influence campaigns and it's,
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It could be people who have even dedicated their life
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To being the mayor of a city,
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But at the same time are pushing out and asking for.
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Not just saying,
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I'm gonna put out info about china on my own website.
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But saying, what can i put out to chinese officials?
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And in doing so in a way
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Where she immediately pleads guilty.
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I mean, so she knew once they they caught onto this
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And it looks like they caught onto this
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Because her partner in the effort
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Had already been arrested and charged
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And is serving time in prison right now.
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It's a wild story to read when you first read
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That it's an elected official
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In the united states of america working with the prc.
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- yeah.
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Directly elected official in the united states of america.
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Who is being told what to do, what not to do, what to post,
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And even had to seek permission.
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We're gonna talk about that in a lot more.
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Give us a call though.
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What do you think?
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Are you shocked by this?
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I mean, i'll be honest,
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Very few things shock me and surprise me.
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This is one that's pretty wild.
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- welcome back to sekulow.
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A lot of you are just joining us right now
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And we have to restate what's happening.
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Obviously president trump, it's on the way to china.
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They have a big summit that is gonna be happening.
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We're gonna break down really
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What's gonna happen in that summit as well.
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What the intentions are, what we could see,
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What the positives that come out of it.
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Maybe some of the negatives too.
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Rick grenell's gonna be joining us a little bit later.
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We'll discuss that.
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But at the same time, again, just to restate, if you didn't,
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If you're just tuning in right now,
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At the same time, this literally happened yesterday.
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You had a mayor of a los angeles area city
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Of arcadia, california,
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Resign from being the mayor, plead guilty
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And admit to being a actor for the prc,
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Essentially being a chinese spy.
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This is happening again as elected officials
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In the united states of america.
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This is the amount of influence, and you may go,
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It's kind of wild that what you consider to be a,
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Not a huge city.
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I mean it is a, in a big market,
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It's at a very large market.
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But you're talking about,
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You're talking about a city of 56,000 people.
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It's not nothing, but it's certainly not, you know,
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A major metropolitan, it is in a major metropolitan area.
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But they decided, you know, we're gonna have influence
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In these kind of places to keep the campaign.
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It does beg the question of
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How much is this happening throughout the country?
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We know that it has happened before with the police stations
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And all of those things that we revealed
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Over the last few years.
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But again, when we say it was working directly with 'em,
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We know from at least the smallest of instances
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Was being told what to post on social media,
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What was being posted on their website
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That promoted, you know,
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Propaganda from the chinese government.
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And then on top of that, on top of that,
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Was actually seeking permission
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On what they could and couldn't post.
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- yeah, and i think that's
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What's kind of shocking here as well
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Is when you think sometimes some of these,
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These charges where it's like,
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Oh, you were acting as a foreign agent.
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You understand like people get financial benefit
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And maybe aren't doing the rules.
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This one, when you really look at it and you're like,
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This was an elected official,
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Was having to ask permission from their handlers
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Of what they could and couldn't publish.
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And then when trying to show their work, like, look,
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This got so much interaction spreading this propaganda
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And says thank you, leader.
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Like actually taking that direction
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From a foreign government.
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That is what's so shocking here.
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But you have to put this in context
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'cause we've been talking about this threat for a long time.
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You mentioned the police stations.
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We know that eric swalwell notoriously had those issues
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Where a chinese spy was within his own office.
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You think about dianne feinstein, california senator,
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Who had a long time spy, that was her driver.
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The infiltration from the ccp in the united states
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Cannot be understated.
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We know that mike pompeo,
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Who'll be joining us later in the week,
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He, when he was secretary of state,
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Had to shut down the consulate in houston
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Because it was just a spy operation for the government.
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This is deep within the united states right now.
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It's something the trump administration's
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Been fighting for a long time.
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- and it's interesting fine line in washington dc
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And in government as well.
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Because you can register as a foreign agent.
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I mean you usually you wouldn't be elected mayor of a town.
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And be obviously it's highly regulated.
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- [logan] more like a lobbyist for them.
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- and there are people that do this
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In a legal way in washington.
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And so really that's the-
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- as we do in other countries i'm sure.
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- that's the probably the highest charge she's under
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It looks like right now at
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Is the easiest one to get her on certainly
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And as well as her partner.
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So what you have to then look at is,
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And i think what would be the next level is,
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Was there payment involved
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Or is it really just doing this as as like a,
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As just a, because you're pro china.
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I mean, 'cause usually people
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Are getting in trouble with this
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And if they were doing a website like this,
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It would be because of the,
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There'd be financial plus,
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You'd be acting as a foreign agent.
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Usually you would not be considered
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Acting as a foreign agent for free.
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- well, and once again, when you read what's in this
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The factual basis,
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Because this is a plea agreement at this point,
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She won't go to trial.
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She's admitting to guilt with the government.
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It shows how much information
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The us government actually had on her.
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But this is that it's a violation of 18 usc 951
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Agents of a foreign government, which says,
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For the purposes of this section,
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The term agent of a foreign government
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Means an individual who agrees
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To operate within the united states
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Subject to the direction or control
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Of a foreign government or official except,
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And then there's some exclusions as well.
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And that goes to the people that are consular people,
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Diplomatic officials.
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They aren't considered a violation of this obviously.
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But what this does carry with it
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That she has pled guilty to now it'll be up to a judge.
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She doesn't have to get convicted-
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- [logan] saying i did it.
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- it is up to 10 years in prison, $250,000 fine.
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And three years of supervised release.
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So a long portion of,
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Now there's some people that are saying
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It is not going far enough if you're spying for the chinese.
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- or you may be saying that this person's
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Also not gonna serve that long, you know?
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Especially in los angeles county
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Or wherever it may be.
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- judge ends up sentencing this individual too.
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But it's quite shocking when you start to think of that
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With the context that the president
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Is headed over to china right now for the summit.
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- yeah, and let's pivot to that
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Because i think this is an important thing that's happening.
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'cause look, i am not blind to the fact
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That our relationship with china,
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Though it is hostile at times, if you'd say,
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I don't even, hostile is the right word.
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It's certainly is conflicted.
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- [will] right.
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- is necessary.
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We have to have relationship with china at this point.
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Like we can't just cut off china.
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Like people would wanna say that.
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It's certainly not the way we have set up our society.
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You may not like it, but it's not like if we,
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If we got rid of chinese manufacturing,
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If we got rid of those things right now.
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We're not ready for that in america.
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Let's just not pretend that we are.
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Better at it, certainly.
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But we're not there right now.
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So a relationship with china
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And then this specific summit
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Is really going to talk about also the influence of ai,
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And what that,
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And who's gonna be kind of the leader in this moment.
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And i think that's very important when you have really
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The two big superpowers of the world
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When you have us and china that have the tech centers
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That this could become a, it could be a conflict
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Or it could be a really big step forward
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Towards some kind of ongoing partnership.
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- but think about the different,
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Yes, we're the two superpowers,
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But think about the different,
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It have personalities and way of life
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With where ai could go in china quickly
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And the difference between the united states.
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Whereas here, citizens and we publicly freely
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Even our own government officials raise concerns about ai.
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In china, you've got a society
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That you're not raising concerns.
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- [logan] human lives very different.
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- a lot easier to test these systems on people
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When you are not going to be subject to
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Any kind of legal action if it goes wrong.
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So you can go, you can kind of push further
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And there's not gonna be any kind of retribution for,
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You know, government actors
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Or the corporate kind of, i say companies,
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But usually controlled by the government there
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Or significant interest there.
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And so i think that making a path forward
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That makes sense for both is very important.
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But like we said,
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We don't have the manufacturer to compete with china.
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In fact, chinese goods now are the higher end
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Of imported goods to the united states.
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So a lot of the stuff you see
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Is not necessarily made in china anymore.
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It's made in other places
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'cause the chinese goods are the more expensive side.
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- well, and jordan, i think to the that point as well,
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We've had senator hagerty on this broadcast many times.
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We've reached out to his office,
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See if we can have him on soon about this summit
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Because this is such an important topic.
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The united states relationship with china is necessary,
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But it is a difficult one.
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What we saw for so long was
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Members of the left in the united states
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That were not as hard on china
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As we would have preferred.
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And what do you see?
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You see how much they were able to infiltrate
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And put their influence here.
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President trump during in his first term was tough on china
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And then immediately returned to office
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And went back to being tough on china.
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The trade issue where people say
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It will tank the world economy if you are tough on china,
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Proved to be wrong.
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It did not tank the world economy.
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What they're gonna talk about though
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Is the trade relationship.
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Those mining issues, the rare earth minerals
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That lead to both batteries and chips
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And all of these things that our economy
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Is so reliant on now, this is all a part of it,
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But you also have to think the energy aspect as well.
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The war in iran.
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These are issues that will be discussed between the leaders
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While they're there as well.
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This was originally supposed to happen a few months ago,
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But got pushed back because of the war in iran.
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President trump, i believe was about a week into the war,
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Was actually scheduled to be going on this trip.
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They pushed it back to now.
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And so we'll see what impact does that have
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Because of china's relationship with iran.
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The oil that they receive from the middle east, china,
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A lot of that is iranian oil.
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All of these things factor in.
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But it goes to show that the chinese government
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Is not just who you're dealing with on the face.
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They also have all these influence operations
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- yeah, i mean big momentum going forward
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Into this big summit in china.
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I think it's good president trump is gonna be there,
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Has at least a working relationship with the head in china
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With the really all of the,
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It seems like they have a good relationship
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With this government
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Or the best relationship you can kind of have
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Considering the circumstances that we are currently in.
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- welcome back to sekulow.
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Joining us now, rick grenell,
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And rick, we had you on yesterday.
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We teased this a little bit talking about the summit
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That president trump is heading out for.
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But now we have some interesting context
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To talk about the president going
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And having this summit with the chinese.
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Because today we find out that a mayor
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In your sunny state of california just pled guilty,
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Entered a plea agreement with the united states
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For being basically a chinese spy.
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Now is it super shocking?
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No, because we know all of the context
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Of whether it be spies in eric swalwell office,
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In diane feinstein's office,
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The consulate in houston that was a den of chinese spies,
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Whether it be the confucius institute
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Or the police stations in the united states.
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We know how much the chinese communist party
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Tries to exert their influence here.
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However, the context of this coming out today
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As the president goes there,
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I think is a very good reminder for the people of the us
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Of who we're dealing with.
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- look, this is a problem
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That we've been dealing with for a long time
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In which local and state elected officials, politicians,
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Find themselves in positions of leverage
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Against foreign actors.
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Now, i have to be careful here in what i'm saying.
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When i was dni, we had a situation during covid
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That we had to give defensive briefings as we call them.
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And the defensive briefing
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Is when the intelligence community,
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The fbi or someone from the cia
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Shows up to tell a politician
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That you're being leveraged against a foreign government.
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And we don't always make an immediate assessment
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Of the motives by the politician.
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Sometimes the politician finds themselves
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In these leverage moments
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Where they didn't realize what was happening,
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They didn't know it was a foreign entity.
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Other times they do know it's a foreign entity
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And they've crossed the line.
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And so the defensive briefing is really
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An offensive briefing to say, knock it off.
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And this happens consistently.
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Now, i'm somebody when i was dni
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That i think that we should enforce the law
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When it crosses the line
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I think these people should be prosecuted.
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I'm not sure that normal americans get a warning
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From the intelligence community,
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But elected officials many times
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Are getting warnings rather than prosecutions.
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And i saw it happening a lot during covid
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And the leverage was the ppp
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That we were trying to get from china.
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China would say, hey, say this, do that,
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And you'll go to the front of the line.
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And that is the type of stuff
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That local and state officials need to guard against.
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Many of them are inexperienced politicians
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Or new politicians
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And they don't understand what's happening to them.
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But some, like in this particular case
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Know exactly what's happening
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And it's their part of the scheme.
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And so i think that this is a growing problem
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That we still haven't been able to fix.
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I think it's probably a human problem.
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It's always gonna be around.
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But certainly we need to be very tough on those individuals
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Who are taking an oath to help the people
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And yet helping another foreign government.
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- well, rick, also, when you think about
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The context of this as well,
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That the fact that you have,
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At the same time people wanting to talk about
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Election integrity and voter integrity.
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We have so many freedoms here in the united states
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That the chinese government knows how to exploit
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Our freedom of speech, the freedom of capital.
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In many ways,
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They know how to exploit these things to their benefit.
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I think though, when you look at the problem for decades,
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How weak the us foreign policy was on this adversary,
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The necessary evil to some degree
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That these trade relations with china are,
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That it took a backseat.
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The paying attention to how much they were exploiting
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The things that we take for granted sometimes
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On a daily basis.
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Now we have, and in the first administration we saw this,
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We saw this with your work and we see it again,
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Finally, someone willing to say,
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We just gotta stand up to them.
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We have to be tough.
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And i think that's the question
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Is that what even these summits at a time where you're,
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You're seeing all the things going on in the world,
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You still have this iran war in limbo,
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Which is what delayed this summit.
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But is it that important for the people,
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Not just of the world, but of the united states
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To see we have leadership who will stand up to china
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And will go and negotiate and get the best deal possible?
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- well, let me give you one example
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Of what the chinese do
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Is they try to inflame through our own courts,
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The american courts
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Or through environmental laws and actions that they take.
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They try to inflame some of the conversations
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That we have around fertilizer,
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Trying to get fertilizer banned,
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For instance, in the united states.
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They inflame the debate about the science
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Of some of this stuff.
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Knowing full well that if the americans ban it
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Or at least stop the manufacturing because it's expensive
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And the lawsuits and the regulation,
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They know full well that if we stop, they supply it.
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So it's a trade secret
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Where they won't follow their own advice,
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They won't have tough environmental laws.
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They'll continue to make products that are questionable,
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But they don't have to face the scrutiny
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As much as the american business community has,
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And so we've seen that play out.
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But thank god we've got president trump going over
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Because he's clear-eyed about
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The problems that american farmers have.
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Remember in the last trade bill,
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He really got a huge win for the american farmers,
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Really forcing china to stop playing games
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And to buy more of the american agriculture products.
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And so i think you'll see farming as one of the top issues,
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But also just simple trade.
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Trying to make sure that china
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In the world trade organization behaves.
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We know that since they've been in it,
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When bill clinton was leaving office,
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He put them in the world trade organization,
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China's gotten worse when it comes to their trade practices,
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Their currency manipulation.
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They certainly have gotten worse on human rights abuses.
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And so we're not seeing the progress
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That we thought we would see
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By putting china in the world trade organization.
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Let's let president trump do a good negotiation
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And come back with a big win for america.
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- when we have these big summits,
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Obviously there's so much work
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That goes into these summits on the front end
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With all the diplomatic staff, the state department,
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The intelligence community, everyone working together,
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And with their counterparts on the other side.
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Then you have a two day summit
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And then you have the work that follows.
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Kind of the big get for these type of summits
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Is normally some sort of signed statement
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Or some agreement that could come out
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Between the two leaders
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And then the work has to actually follow that.
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Do you think that there could be some sort of
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A big news item, a big get
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That the president is looking to get out of this?
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I know the diplomatic staff would love that.
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Or is it mainly just gonna be a tough slog
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And see where we end up?
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- well i think we have to remember
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That we have two different styles here
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That are coming together and the diplomatic crash is real.
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The chinese like to have everything buttoned up
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Before the meeting even starts.
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They've given us, i'm sure, i don't know for a fact,
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But in my experiences
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The chinese will have given us
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An outcome document of let's be able to say this,
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It's basically a press release
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That says everything went great and here's what we discussed
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Before we even have the meeting.
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That's what the chinese like to do.
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Where americans are much more,
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Let's have a conversation and see what happens.
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Donald trump is even much more so
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Than an american traditional foreign policy by going all in,
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Discussing anything and everything in real time
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And pushing where possible.
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So we don't know exactly what donald trump is going to do.
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He's very unpredictable
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And it's very good for america to have a president
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And a negotiator who is unpredictable.
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- alright, we got some calls coming in
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About this relationship we have with china.
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I think let's take one of those.
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I just wanna start with, let's go, daniel.
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Yeah, daniel, washington dc, go ahead.
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- [daniel] hi, thank you for taking my call.
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I'm just concerned about this incident in california
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Where we have a foreign chinese person as a mayor.
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Let's say that we have, we have congressmen
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Who are from the minnesota who obviously hates america.
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And i think that we should have people
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Whose elected officials should be born in this country
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Or at least be in this country since they're five years old,
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To have, to learn to love this country.
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- well daniel, i'll hop in.
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So one, that would take constitutional amendments
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To put more restrictions on who can be elected
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As a representative or as a senator
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Because that's where those definitions come from.
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The president of the united states
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Actually has a more strict requirement
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On being born in the united states.
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- is there a reason we have that still
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For the president of the united states?
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But not for all.
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I mean i don't necessarily know in 2026
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Where i land on out any of that issue to begin with.
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But it is interesting that we've decided that, you know,
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To be the highest of elected official,
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There is certainly a higher standard,
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But that higher standard involves something
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That we don't even put on the rest of our elected officials.
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Now, to me it's more you can move to a city,
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You can learn it, a culture.
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There's a lot of different things that can happen
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When you're dealing with smaller populations as well.
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- well, as well as the executive branch itself is,
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Is the president.
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The president is his own branch of government.
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As we've talked about on this broadcast before,
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When you are a member of congress,
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You are one of a multitude depending on,
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I mean that number can go up
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For the house of representatives
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Or be re shifted around depending on different factors.
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But i think when you look at that,
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It would take a constitutional amendment
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And try getting that constitutional amendment
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Passed in this day and age, i don't think it would happen.
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- where people would actually come down.
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I think you could make cases for both ways this history.
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- yeah, i'm not taking a side on that as much going,
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I think it's interesting that
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We still do have that to his point,
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We have that requirement for president
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But it doesn't trickle down.
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- well and that's from the beginning, that was the founders
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And there's a lot of in-depth analysis
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That i don't know that we have time for to get on on.
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- [logan] get in it, will. - this broadcast.
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Normally you get on me
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When i try to go too deep on things like that.
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But i think the other point he was making, he said,
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What if this was a senator or a congressman?
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You think that is the goal to some degree of the ccp.
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- and not to be a conspiracy theorist,
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But who's to say it's not?
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- well we think of the current sitting governor of minnesota
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Who spoke so highly and had so many trips, to where?
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China.
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And that was actually a big issue
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When he was on the ticket for
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Vice president of the united states.
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He was born here.
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But one of the big questions is,
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How much influence does china have over you?
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'cause he even was saying things like,
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They're not the enemy.
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Don't worry about them.
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