Sekulow - DOJ Report Confirms Christians Targeted

May 13, 2026 | 26:29

Jay Sekulow speaks about the protection of religious freedoms in America.

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Sekulow | Sekulow - DOJ Report Confirms Christians Targeted | May 13, 2026
  • (light-hearted music)
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  • - the aclj is in the news, the breaking news,
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  • As the doj has released a report
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  • On eradicating anti-christian bias.
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  • And this is from, i mean, it's really wild.
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  • We're gonna break it all down. okay.
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  • When you hear all this
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  • That has been going on for many years,
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  • Of course, a lot of it during the biden administration,
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  • You're not gonna believe it.
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  • I mean, you may be because you, nothing shocks us anymore.
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  • But the fact that this is in black and white,
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  • That we can read it now, just stay tuned everyone,
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  • And i'm gonna want to hear from you on this.
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  • This is the reason you support the work of the aclj.
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  • These are the kind of things that happen.
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  • This is real breaking news.
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  • Will, let's kick it off
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  • With what exactly went down in this 200-page report
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  • That was just released.
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  • - you say 200, but it actually with attachments,
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  • It's 565 pages.
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  • - [logan] 11 footnotes. - released by the
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  • Department of justice.
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  • This is a report that's pursuant to the executive order
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  • That the president put out when he first came into office
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  • 14202, which was tasking the department of justice
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  • To lead this task force, tasking a task force,
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  • To find out, to look into what was going on
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  • During the biden administration.
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  • During those years where we were calling it out.
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  • We were showing people this is systematic bias
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  • Against christians, against conservatives
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  • By the heavy hand of the biden administration.
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  • So we looked at this, we obviously were calling it out.
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  • We obviously were pleading
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  • With the biden administration many times through letters,
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  • Through lawsuits saying,
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  • Stop this bias that you have against people of faith.
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  • Well now when the trump administration came to office,
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  • The president said, i want you to go through and find it.
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  • Find all this bias.
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  • You have all the documents doj.
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  • Lead this task force against the entire executive branch
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  • And root this out.
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  • And that's what we're seeing here.
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  • We had that first report a couple weeks back
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  • That was mainly about the weaponization of the face act.
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  • It got its own report
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  • Where they weren't even gonna look into violence
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  • Against people that are pro-life in this country until we,
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  • The aclj, sent the letter telling them to.
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  • Now this is the second report.
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  • This one is more comprehensive
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  • And we're gonna get into some
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  • Of the details in these 565 pages.
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  • But it is eradicating anti-christian bias
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  • Within the federal government.
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  • And what they have found is it was pervasive
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  • And systemic within the executive branch.
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  • - i'm already seeing your negative nancy comments saying,
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  • Oh, what are you gonna do about it?
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  • Nothing's gonna happen. you know, that's it.
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  • They're gonna put out this report, then that's it.
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  • You're not gonna hear.
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  • You know what?
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  • Give us a little time here, okay.
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  • And take some wins here folks.
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  • When stuff comes out and it proves you right,
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  • Understand we're gonna work with the law
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  • And we're gonna work with what we have
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  • To make sure people are held accountable.
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  • Give a break, give it some time, okay.
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  • Everything can't be so pessimistic.
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  • But you know what?
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  • When these things come out, these reports,
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  • When you actually have a department of justice
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  • Doing their job.
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  • You could take a little bit of pride in them
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  • And say, you know what,
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  • At least they went through and did this.
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  • It's a new day, at least from this situation.
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  • (light-hearted music)
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  • (light-hearted music)
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  • - you may have seen the headline.
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  • The doj report has confirmed the worst.
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  • And you may say, logan, what's the worst here?
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  • And the worst as directly involved
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  • With the work of the aclj.
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  • So much so recited we're part of this entire report.
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  • This page, this multi hundred page report
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  • With footnotes and everything.
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  • What you have 500 pages?
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  • - 565 pages when you include all the exhibits,
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  • Footnotes and things of that nature.
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  • - yeah. and it's all the findings
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  • Of this task force that went through,
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  • And it was during the biden administration
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  • How they were illegally targeting,
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  • At least we believe they're illegally targeting
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  • Christian organizations, christian groups.
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  • And we've talked about this for a number of years,
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  • But now again, there's a full report from
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  • The current department of justice.
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  • You should take this as a win.
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  • But it does confirm all of our suspicions
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  • That this was happening.
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  • - that's right.
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  • And when you see, as you mentioned
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  • In the first segment, people say, okay,
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  • There's a report, nothing will be done here.
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  • Let me introduce you to the aclj.
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  • This is the work we do.
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  • And when you get a report from the doj confirming
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  • What we have seen, what we have been advocating for,
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  • For our clients, not just speaking it out into the ether
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  • With our attorneys that work very hard daily
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  • To fight for the rights of these clients.
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  • When you have a doj report that is pursuant
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  • To a executive order from the president
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  • Of the united states, that becomes something you use later.
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  • It's a tool in your tool set when you go forward.
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  • Because it's not just that they're confirming
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  • That it was systematic and pervasive
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  • This anti-christian bias.
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  • The aclj's work in our clients, in our cases,
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  • Are referenced more than 35 times
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  • In this hundreds of pages report.
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  • It's not just our work, it's other organizations as well.
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  • But the bulk of what you see here,
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  • 35 different references to the work
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  • Of the aclj fighting for our clients.
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  • - [logan] how many of that again?
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  • - over 35.
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  • - 35, okay. that's the work.
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  • And we're talking about directly referencing
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  • The work of the aclj.
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  • When you were talking about this document that was released.
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  • This is what we've been doing on the daily.
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  • This is what a lot of our team has been focused on
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  • Because we know, as i said.
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  • Is it any sort of surprise when you have
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  • Street preachers getting arrested,
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  • All of these things that, bible clubs being shut down.
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  • Things that have not been a part
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  • Of the news cycle, have not been part of the culture
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  • For decades because of the original work of the aclj.
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  • Why?
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  • Because you had a department of justice,
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  • You had a administration
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  • Who was weaponizing themselves against christians
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  • And christian groups,
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  • And now we have the documentation to prove it.
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  • And again, you had probably a president
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  • Of the united states at the time who was unaware
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  • That some of this was going on,
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  • Because he had a big team of people
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  • Who were pulling on all the strings
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  • And they were working behind the scenes
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  • And were far, far leftists who were targeting these people.
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  • And it's really sad that it really was the case
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  • That a lot of those, what probably people told you
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  • Were conspiracy theories were true.
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  • But now you have a different,
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  • A different administration
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  • Who has put in this task force to take care of it.
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  • - that's right.
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  • And when you look at this, this is the department of justice
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  • And they were working with other agencies.
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  • It details in this report the findings
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  • Of 17 federal agencies
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  • That were a part of this task force.
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  • And it goes to show how the administration pushed
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  • A radical policy agenda
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  • Even when that infringed on the rights of christian beliefs
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  • And free exercise as well as the ways that they
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  • Went after certain cases as the department of justice
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  • And not as much on the other side.
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  • And it goes into it when you start to look at some
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  • Of the work that the aclj was fighting.
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  • Remember when we saw at the smithsonian
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  • During the march for life
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  • And also at the national archives,
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  • This pattern where they were targeting christians,
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  • Targeting pro-life individuals
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  • That were visiting these sites in dc.
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  • We got big wins from that.
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  • But that is even a part of this entire issue.
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  • It's showing that these weren't one-offs.
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  • This was a culture
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  • That was pervasive within the biden administration.
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  • And it wasn't just we wanna push our liberal policies.
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  • It was that there was an anti-christian bias
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  • That was real systemic and pervasive.
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  • It also shows there was a hospital worker in vermont
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  • That was forced to perform abortions against her faith.
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  • We filed an issue, a complaint
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  • With the hhs under the first trump administration 2018.
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  • It went so far as the department of justice
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  • Because of that complaint was filing
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  • A lawsuit against university of vermont medical center
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  • Because they were violating someone's faith.
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  • And then what did you see happen?
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  • As soon as the administration changed
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  • And it was a different department of justice,
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  • They abandoned that lawsuit
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  • And they even were taking information.
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  • - yeah. you know things are political
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  • And being run in a political way look on either side here
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  • When you start dropping lawsuits
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  • Because you're like, oh, now as a department
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  • Of justice it's gonna feel differently.
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  • - that's right.
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  • And just because someone was forced
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  • To violate their faith,
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  • They didn't like what this lawsuit was about.
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  • So they're like, we're not gonna spend our resources here.
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  • And what was one of the motivating factors?
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  • They got a letter from the law firm representing
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  • The university medical center that went after the aclj
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  • And said, look, their chief counsel,
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  • He happened to represent the president.
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  • So maybe don't listen to what his group has to say.
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  • And then other things like,
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  • Oh, even their statements on their website
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  • That they are a religious organization.
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  • That was their rationale.
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  • The law firm representing the medical center
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  • For the biden doj to drop the complaint
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  • And just let it go.
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  • All of these things show it isn't
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  • Because they know that they're on the right side of the law.
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  • It's because the biden administration
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  • Didn't like you if you were a christian.
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  • - right. we got a lot of calls coming in about this.
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  • I wanna take julie's call first on line one.
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  • Julie, go ahead.
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  • - [julie] hey, thank you for taking my call and first just
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  • Because i want to say
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  • Against the negative nancy's out there,
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  • I'm gonna be a joyous julie for all that you do
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  • Because i've called in dozens of times
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  • And i've said on occasion that we don't know half of
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  • What you guys are doing behind the scenes
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  • Until a big victory like this.
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  • And yes, it's the beginning,
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  • But how much discovery does it take to find out
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  • That 17 agencies,
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  • Let alone the dozens if not hundreds of agents that work
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  • For those 17 agencies are all participating
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  • In this discrimination?
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  • So well done you guys. well done.
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  • - thank you so much.
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  • And i wanna say everyone, i appreciate you calling in
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  • And so even frequently.
  • 00:10:53.154 --> 00:10:55.156
  • And look, i didn't mean to like go on a rant there just
  • 00:10:55.156 --> 00:10:57.691
  • Against people being negative.
  • 00:10:57.691 --> 00:10:59.193
  • I understand we live in a world that's pretty, pretty dark
  • 00:10:59.193 --> 00:11:01.796
  • And can get a little cloudy here and there,
  • 00:11:01.796 --> 00:11:03.364
  • And it's hard to take any wins where you see 'em.
  • 00:11:03.364 --> 00:11:06.033
  • But look, we got a team here,
  • 00:11:06.033 --> 00:11:07.568
  • We got an incredible team, media team and legal team.
  • 00:11:07.568 --> 00:11:10.871
  • We're working really hard for you.
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  • And sometimes you gotta celebrate those people,
  • 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:14.475
  • And you gotta celebrate when there are moments.
  • 00:11:14.475 --> 00:11:16.076
  • And look, look sure.
  • 00:11:16.076 --> 00:11:17.411
  • The victory in this is revealing corruption.
  • 00:11:17.411 --> 00:11:19.413
  • I understand that that is not necessarily always
  • 00:11:19.413 --> 00:11:21.515
  • The biggest victory to go look at all the corruption.
  • 00:11:21.515 --> 00:11:25.653
  • But you do have an aclj team that worked very hard on this
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  • And you see the fruits of their labor in this report.
  • 00:11:30.558 --> 00:11:34.962
  • So i do wanna always thank our legal team.
  • 00:11:34.962 --> 00:11:36.530
  • I always wanna thank the media team
  • 00:11:36.530 --> 00:11:37.698
  • That's working really hard every day,
  • 00:11:37.698 --> 00:11:39.967
  • And not just this one hour show that you hear
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  • Or you watch every day.
  • 00:11:42.570 --> 00:11:44.705
  • There's so much happening as julie said, behind the scenes.
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  • (light-hearted music)
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  • (light-hearted music)
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  • - if you remember just a couple weeks ago
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  • There was another doj report that talked about
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  • The different ways
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  • That the biden administration handled violations
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  • Of the face act and how they weaponized
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  • That law to go after people who are pro-life,
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  • And to shield people who are pro-abortion.
  • 00:12:08.622 --> 00:12:11.292
  • And what we saw is that when in the wake of woe, of woe,
  • 00:12:11.292 --> 00:12:14.995
  • In the wake of roe being overturned.
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  • When all this violence happened against pro-life centers,
  • 00:12:19.199 --> 00:12:24.071
  • They were calling abortion clinics and planned parenthood
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  • And all of these providers
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  • And saying, hey, don't worry,
  • 00:12:28.676 --> 00:12:30.377
  • Send us anything you got, we're gonna take care of y'all.
  • 00:12:30.377 --> 00:12:33.013
  • Meanwhile, it took us months later saying,
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  • Why are you doing nothing about people
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  • That are firebombing pro-life pregnancy resource centers?
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  • Where's the investigation?
  • 00:12:41.755 --> 00:12:43.390
  • It took the aclj sending that letter in jordan
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  • To get them to even think about it.
  • 00:12:46.794 --> 00:12:49.029
  • And then they did some google searches
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  • And said, who could we talk to?
  • 00:12:50.464 --> 00:12:52.466
  • This video showcases that.
  • 00:12:52.466 --> 00:12:55.402
  • And remember two weeks ago when this report came out,
  • 00:12:55.402 --> 00:12:58.739
  • People were fired from the doj
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  • Because of the actions that were found in this report.
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  • So this was a preliminary report
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  • That led up to the one we got today.
  • 00:13:07.448 --> 00:13:09.483
  • Very similar from the same task force,
  • 00:13:09.483 --> 00:13:11.819
  • But this shows kind of the work
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  • Of the aclj with that previous one.
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  • - yeah, i want you to see this video
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  • And look, it's a pretty cool host.
  • 00:13:16.390 --> 00:13:17.958
  • I think you're gonna like it. go ahead. here's the video.
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  • Is justice really blind?
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  • Is equal application of the law a reality?
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  • Or is it nothing more than legal lore masquerading
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  • As an american ideal?
  • 00:13:27.067 --> 00:13:29.003
  • In april, the department
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  • Of justice released a report detailing
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  • A disturbing weaponization of the law
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  • Against pro-life americans,
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  • And front and center in the effort
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  • To expose the abuse was
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  • The american center for law and justice.
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  • The report focuses on the biden administration
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  • In the months following the supreme court's decision
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  • To overturn roe versus wade.
  • 00:13:45.652 --> 00:13:47.388
  • When merrick garland's, doj closely coordinated
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  • With pro-abortion groups while at the same time
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  • Ignoring pro-life groups,
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  • And the legal lever they use
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  • To do it is known as the face act.
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  • The face act or the freedom of access
  • 00:13:59.199 --> 00:14:01.101
  • To clinic entrances act is a 1994 federal law,
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  • That promises to protect access to healthcare facilities,
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  • Including abortion clinics, hospitals,
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  • And pregnancy resource centers.
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  • The law even extends to places
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  • Of worship like churches or synagogues.
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  • In the summer of 2022,
  • 00:14:17.217 --> 00:14:18.952
  • There was a surge in violence
  • 00:14:18.952 --> 00:14:20.287
  • Outside pregnancy resource centers.
  • 00:14:20.287 --> 00:14:22.056
  • This happened across the country,
  • 00:14:22.056 --> 00:14:23.457
  • Where facilities were firebombed and vandalized.
  • 00:14:23.457 --> 00:14:26.393
  • Included in the dojs report is the letter the aclj sent
  • 00:14:26.393 --> 00:14:29.463
  • To the biden doj, asking them
  • 00:14:29.463 --> 00:14:32.166
  • To enforce the face act on behalf of the pro-life victims.
  • 00:14:32.166 --> 00:14:35.936
  • But the gears of justice were slow to turn.
  • 00:14:35.936 --> 00:14:38.639
  • Instead, the doj used google searches to find information
  • 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.408
  • And dispatched interns to look into our requests.
  • 00:14:41.408 --> 00:14:44.044
  • Meanwhile, that same doj carefully coordinated
  • 00:14:44.044 --> 00:14:47.081
  • With pro-abortion ngos to track the activities
  • 00:14:47.081 --> 00:14:49.850
  • Of pro-life activists.
  • 00:14:49.850 --> 00:14:51.351
  • This was in order to target them using the face act.
  • 00:14:51.351 --> 00:14:54.822
  • This egregious abuse of the law suggests
  • 00:14:54.822 --> 00:14:57.591
  • That justice is indeed not blind at all,
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  • But instead biased even to the point
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  • Of violating first amendment rights.
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  • This is what puts your faith under fire.
  • 00:15:05.933 --> 00:15:09.970
  • - i'm a side bar preacher
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  • And evangelist outside the northeast ohio women's center.
  • 00:15:11.505 --> 00:15:15.242
  • We share the gospel
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  • And we offer to minister
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  • To women as we have to raise our voice
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  • And use our voice to get them
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  • To hear us over generally kazoos whistles, cowbells, music,
  • 00:15:21.515 --> 00:15:26.153
  • Any sort of musical instrument you can hold with your hand,
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  • They probably use.
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  • Ma'am, we're all here for you. please don't do this.
  • 00:15:29.823 --> 00:15:33.594
  • - the aclj has worked behind the scenes for years
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  • To protect pro-life americans.
  • 00:15:36.964 --> 00:15:38.799
  • Even if the doj sometimes refused, like zachary
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  • And lindsey knotts who were unjustly prosecuted
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  • For peacefully and constitutionally protesting
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  • Outside an abortion clinic in ohio.
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  • - the sergeant on duty comes up
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  • And said, you're coming with us.
  • 00:15:51.845 --> 00:15:53.413
  • And i'm like, for what? i was confused.
  • 00:15:53.413 --> 00:15:55.682
  • And under threat of arrest, i went and followed him
  • 00:15:55.682 --> 00:15:58.118
  • 'cause i had no idea what was going on.
  • 00:15:58.118 --> 00:15:59.653
  • And then i was eventually cited for disorderly conduct.
  • 00:15:59.653 --> 00:16:02.923
  • - he said, whether or not you use amplified sound,
  • 00:16:02.923 --> 00:16:06.260
  • If you cause annoyance to anybody again,
  • 00:16:06.260 --> 00:16:09.696
  • Then you're going to be charged.
  • 00:16:09.696 --> 00:16:11.665
  • - or in georgia where jason cantrell, a street preacher
  • 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.102
  • Was criminally cited for sharing the gospel
  • 00:16:15.102 --> 00:16:17.204
  • Outside an abortion clinic even though he had a permit
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  • From the city to do so.
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  • - when the moms are coming in the driveway right here,
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  • We try to hand them information,
  • 00:16:25.379 --> 00:16:26.947
  • Which is a gospel track and pregnancy info.
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  • So it has information for a pregnancy center
  • 00:16:30.450 --> 00:16:32.519
  • Where they can go and get free ultrasound,
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  • Free pregnancy care, everything's free.
  • 00:16:34.721 --> 00:16:37.491
  • We were just out here preaching one day like we,
  • 00:16:37.491 --> 00:16:40.427
  • Like i've been doing for years.
  • 00:16:40.427 --> 00:16:42.563
  • And all of a sudden an officer came out
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  • And said, we got a complaint, we need you to turn it down.
  • 00:16:44.631 --> 00:16:46.833
  • And i said, well, multiple supervisors have been out here
  • 00:16:46.833 --> 00:16:49.403
  • Before and they said, my volume's fine.
  • 00:16:49.403 --> 00:16:51.772
  • - in massachusetts, we just filed a complaint on behalf
  • 00:16:51.772 --> 00:16:55.042
  • Of pro-life centers and doctors who are targeted
  • 00:16:55.042 --> 00:16:56.944
  • By a state-sponsored smear campaign.
  • 00:16:56.944 --> 00:16:59.613
  • Whether it's georgia, ohio, massachusetts,
  • 00:17:00.514 --> 00:17:03.116
  • The aclj is working tirelessly behind the scenes
  • 00:17:03.116 --> 00:17:05.819
  • And in courtrooms nationwide
  • 00:17:05.819 --> 00:17:07.621
  • Because it doesn't matter what political party is leading
  • 00:17:07.621 --> 00:17:09.823
  • The doj or how past administrations have weaponized the law.
  • 00:17:09.823 --> 00:17:13.760
  • It isn't about politics, it's about the principle
  • 00:17:13.760 --> 00:17:16.463
  • Of equal justice under the law.
  • 00:17:16.463 --> 00:17:19.166
  • The aclj won't stop protecting your constitutional rights
  • 00:17:19.166 --> 00:17:22.636
  • And in the process ensuring lady justice's
  • 00:17:22.636 --> 00:17:25.639
  • Blindfold doesn't slip.
  • 00:17:25.639 --> 00:17:27.774
  • So the law is equally applied once again.
  • 00:17:27.774 --> 00:17:33.447
  • And again that is just a small sample
  • 00:17:34.248 --> 00:17:36.650
  • Of the work of the aclj.
  • 00:17:36.650 --> 00:17:38.185
  • I want you to be a part of it today.
  • 00:17:38.185 --> 00:17:39.720
  • That being said, i do wanna take a couple quick calls.
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  • Let's start with jim, who's been hold for quite a while.
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  • Jim, i appreciate it, in kansas watching on youtube.
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  • Go ahead.
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  • - [jim] thank you for having me on
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  • And god bless you for all you do.
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  • Quick comment.
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  • I think that the people that complain
  • 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.403
  • About what's going on in our government
  • 00:17:56.403 --> 00:17:58.071
  • And with people like you is they don't do anything about it.
  • 00:17:58.071 --> 00:18:02.042
  • They're quick to complain.
  • 00:18:02.042 --> 00:18:03.844
  • But when it comes time to do anything,
  • 00:18:03.844 --> 00:18:06.480
  • You don't see these people around.
  • 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:08.649
  • What i didn't tell your screeners in november
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  • We have a big vote coming up for the people
  • 00:18:11.218 --> 00:18:15.555
  • To elect our judges, not the bar association.
  • 00:18:15.555 --> 00:18:20.093
  • And i expect a big fight for that
  • 00:18:20.093 --> 00:18:23.797
  • Because we have a lot of bipartisan help with that.
  • 00:18:23.797 --> 00:18:27.668
  • But it goes to federal level
  • 00:18:27.668 --> 00:18:29.136
  • Then we need all the help we can get.
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  • And i just wanna say that continue to fight the good fight
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  • Of faith gentlemen and good day and god bless.
  • 00:18:35.409 --> 00:18:37.878
  • - jim, i know that we really appreciate it
  • 00:18:37.878 --> 00:18:39.913
  • And i feel those prayers that you and a lot of our viewers
  • 00:18:39.913 --> 00:18:43.116
  • And listeners send to us here at the aclj.
  • 00:18:43.116 --> 00:18:46.119
  • And there are days where it's tough.
  • 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:47.688
  • There are days where the team is working
  • 00:18:47.688 --> 00:18:49.423
  • On some very heartbreaking gut wrenching content.
  • 00:18:49.423 --> 00:18:54.961
  • But we do have to celebrate
  • 00:18:55.562 --> 00:18:58.098
  • When there are moments not necessarily of joy
  • 00:18:58.098 --> 00:19:00.100
  • Because it's not like we're in joyous celebration
  • 00:19:00.100 --> 00:19:01.968
  • That there is corruption
  • 00:19:01.968 --> 00:19:03.837
  • That we knew was happening unveiled.
  • 00:19:03.837 --> 00:19:05.906
  • But the fact that we are able to now prove it
  • 00:19:05.906 --> 00:19:08.642
  • And now say now what can be done.
  • 00:19:08.642 --> 00:19:11.611
  • And you have a department of justice right now
  • 00:19:11.611 --> 00:19:13.046
  • That's not only saying now what can we done,
  • 00:19:13.046 --> 00:19:14.348
  • It's saying here's what we're going to do.
  • 00:19:14.348 --> 00:19:15.982
  • Here's how we are going to protect those of faith
  • 00:19:15.982 --> 00:19:18.552
  • As we move on and as we move forward
  • 00:19:18.552 --> 00:19:20.687
  • And hopefully that's the kinda change
  • 00:19:20.687 --> 00:19:23.023
  • That doesn't just happen
  • 00:19:23.023 --> 00:19:24.725
  • Hopefully, prayerfully within one administration.
  • 00:19:24.725 --> 00:19:28.595
  • That is something that can have a long lasting
  • 00:19:28.595 --> 00:19:31.365
  • American values changing results.
  • 00:19:31.365 --> 00:19:36.169
  • It's not unlike a supreme court case
  • 00:19:36.169 --> 00:19:38.305
  • Where it's a lot easier to win these fights
  • 00:19:38.305 --> 00:19:41.875
  • And then maintain than it is to keep fighting him.
  • 00:19:41.875 --> 00:19:45.479
  • I mean look, you see that over and over again.
  • 00:19:45.479 --> 00:19:47.681
  • But every 30 years or so it seems
  • 00:19:47.681 --> 00:19:49.082
  • Like we're gonna have to go back to court.
  • 00:19:49.082 --> 00:19:51.284
  • We're gonna have to re-litigate.
  • 00:19:51.284 --> 00:19:52.386
  • Your times are gonna change.
  • 00:19:52.386 --> 00:19:53.954
  • People are gonna forget, new generations are gonna come up,
  • 00:19:53.954 --> 00:19:55.489
  • But the aclj will be here as long as we are able.
  • 00:19:55.489 --> 00:19:58.759
  • - well, and when you look at this as well, this,
  • 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:01.561
  • The title of this report is aspirational.
  • 00:20:01.561 --> 00:20:04.331
  • It says the eradication of anti-christian bias within
  • 00:20:04.331 --> 00:20:07.534
  • The federal government.
  • 00:20:07.534 --> 00:20:09.035
  • Never gonna happen.
  • 00:20:09.035 --> 00:20:10.470
  • - [logan] yeah it's-- - it's always gonna remain.
  • 00:20:10.470 --> 00:20:11.905
  • You even see today a democrat senator, senator reed--
  • 00:20:11.905 --> 00:20:15.208
  • - [logan] you're a negative nancy. come on.
  • 00:20:15.208 --> 00:20:17.010
  • - no, i'm saying pete hegseth,
  • 00:20:17.010 --> 00:20:18.478
  • Is before senator armed service committee
  • 00:20:18.478 --> 00:20:20.881
  • And they decided to attack his faith.
  • 00:20:20.881 --> 00:20:22.749
  • Democrat senator said,
  • 00:20:22.749 --> 00:20:24.251
  • "you seem to have an intense interest in christianity,"
  • 00:20:24.251 --> 00:20:27.521
  • To the secretary of war.
  • 00:20:27.521 --> 00:20:29.089
  • And he said, "i am not ashamed of my faith in jesus christ.
  • 00:20:29.089 --> 00:20:32.426
  • And even though you may try
  • 00:20:32.426 --> 00:20:34.060
  • And shame me, you can go ahead and go for it."
  • 00:20:34.060 --> 00:20:36.129
  • We know there will always be a bias.
  • 00:20:36.129 --> 00:20:38.932
  • It is aspirational to eradicate it,
  • 00:20:38.932 --> 00:20:41.935
  • But that is also why the aclj will not go away.
  • 00:20:41.935 --> 00:20:45.038
  • We are here to continue fighting this
  • 00:20:45.038 --> 00:20:47.674
  • Because these things are major wins and we celebrate that
  • 00:20:47.674 --> 00:20:51.244
  • And we use this in our fights coming forward.
  • 00:20:51.244 --> 00:20:54.114
  • But we know that those fights will be ahead.
  • 00:20:54.114 --> 00:20:56.149
  • - all right, i wanna take ann in pennsylvania on line one.
  • 00:20:56.149 --> 00:20:58.318
  • Ann go ahead.
  • 00:20:58.318 --> 00:20:59.586
  • - [ann] oh god, thank you so much guys.
  • 00:20:59.586 --> 00:21:01.621
  • Listen, you guys are awesome.
  • 00:21:01.621 --> 00:21:03.356
  • I'm never gonna stop saying it.
  • 00:21:03.356 --> 00:21:05.292
  • All of the court cases
  • 00:21:05.292 --> 00:21:06.626
  • That you have taken to the top and have won
  • 00:21:06.626 --> 00:21:10.330
  • And now we're getting victories, we're seeing victories now
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  • And a lot of it has to do with the actions of the aclj.
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  • Now i wanna quickly say, okay,
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  • That justice is finally taking place for christians,
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  • To be able to express the christianity in the public sphere.
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  • I always have a problem saying that word.
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  • It takes time because libs, now we have to remember,
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  • That libs have used the courts for years
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  • To violate and discriminate against christians.
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  • This starting of the taking down
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  • Of the 10 commandments off the walls of our public schools
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  • And the teaching, put teaching in quotation mark.
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  • The teaching of the bible in the public schools,
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  • I believe was the beginning of the downfall
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  • And the adverse effects
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  • That had taken place upon christians.
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  • - yeah, you can see that.
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  • You can see that kind of history marks certain moments
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  • That certainly have huge impact.
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  • But i wanna go to martin in north carolina.
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  • Martin, go ahead.
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  • - [martin] thank you sir.
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  • First of all, this is gonna take a minute
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  • And it's gonna sound a little negative at first,
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  • But it's really not.
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  • Logan to what you had said earlier in the week.
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  • You didn't know if we could come back from where we're at.
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  • The answer to that really from the bible is,
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  • No god's word says things are gonna wax worse and worse.
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  • We are in the end times,
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  • But at the same time too,
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  • As part of the body of christ, we have to stand against.
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  • We just can't stand what's happening.
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  • When i teach, i tell people, first of all,
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  • You got to know what the truth
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  • Of the word of god says in its fullness.
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  • Then you need to know what the truth is
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  • That is being said out there, as y'all have said,
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  • And what's going on in today's program
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  • And everything else as well.
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  • So that you know that you're not following
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  • The enemy of our soul,
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  • 'cause he's behind all of this.
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  • If we do that, then we're know we're not following
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  • Because he said that we need to address these things
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  • Or we come complacent in this partakers
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  • Of that same sin and you are doing a good job.
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  • I'm fighting against it.
  • 00:23:16.289 --> 00:23:17.791
  • But all the members of the body, we can't just sit around,
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  • We have to get the word out there.
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  • We got to call out unrighteousness.
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  • - martin, i agree with you.
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  • And look, i think there can be debates on theologically
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  • Where we are in terms of the end times, not the end times.
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  • I'm not focused on that personally.
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  • I'm focused on what's happening.
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  • Like i understand that that's a big topic of conversation
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  • That you're gonna have a lot of different points of view.
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  • But i think you're right.
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  • We can't just stand idly by.
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  • We can't just wait and see what happens here.
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  • We do have to have an active team.
  • 00:23:42.649 --> 00:23:44.217
  • It's why this organization was founded nearly 40 years ago.
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  • It was founded because you had to have a legal organization
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  • And then we saw the need for the media side of this
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  • Because you had to be able to get the message out there,
  • 00:23:55.028 --> 00:23:56.496
  • And you had the early days of that, tbn
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  • And those kind of things, terrestrial radio.
  • 00:23:58.531 --> 00:24:00.834
  • And then all of a sudden that moved to satellite radio.
  • 00:24:00.834 --> 00:24:02.502
  • Satellite radio moved to being able to broadcast a podcast.
  • 00:24:02.502 --> 00:24:05.605
  • Then we were able to do live streaming.
  • 00:24:05.605 --> 00:24:07.107
  • And now look where we're at today.
  • 00:24:07.107 --> 00:24:09.075
  • We're able to get this message out worldwide
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  • In professional quality, television style broadcasting
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  • All around the world because people like you decided
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  • To support the work of the aclj.
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  • And not only that, you get to then see the fruits
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  • Of the labor here that our team put together.
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  • And look, things may not go back to how they ever were.
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  • And look, they may not be as good as you remember.
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  • Remember a lot of this started
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  • Back in the 80s for a reason.
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  • It wasn't 'cause everything was shiny
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  • And fun in the 80s.
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  • You had pro-life protestors having
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  • Their arms broken in the streets.
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  • You had people being arrested for their faith.
  • 00:24:39.572 --> 00:24:41.341
  • You had christians kids not being able
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  • To start bible clubs in their schools.
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  • All the origins of this didn't start
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  • As some willy-nilly fun thing.
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  • It may be able to paint a little bit of a better picture
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  • Because you think of the 80s as maybe your childhood,
  • 00:24:51.518 --> 00:24:54.587
  • But we had actually a lot of progress.
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  • And that's maybe why i get a little upset,
  • 00:24:57.123 --> 00:24:59.159
  • Because when there is progress still made,
  • 00:24:59.159 --> 00:25:01.428
  • Sometimes the immediate jump is to be this,
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  • Well, nothing's gonna get done.
  • 00:25:05.165 --> 00:25:07.500
  • What do you call it?
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  • You you have a phrase for it?
  • 00:25:08.468 --> 00:25:10.136
  • - the conservative nihilism.
  • 00:25:10.136 --> 00:25:11.538
  • - conservative nihilism that has overtaken it.
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  • As evangelicals, as christians.
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  • I feel like that's something we can't succumb to,
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  • As the caller said.
  • 00:25:19.979 --> 00:25:21.514
  • And look, you may disagree with his theology,
  • 00:25:22.449 --> 00:25:25.418
  • But theologically he also said,
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  • You can't just stand back and do nothing about it.
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  • Our team is engaged.
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  • We are peacefully doing this.
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  • We're not pushing any sort of violent rhetoric.
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  • Unlike a lot of people these days.
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  • We are there for you when you need it.
  • 00:25:39.666 --> 00:25:43.369
  • - we can then take this report when we send
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  • Our demand letters when their work is saying
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  • You can't have your bible visible.
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  • Well, that violates federal law and workplace protections.
  • 00:25:50.777 --> 00:25:54.380
  • Also, here's the dojs report showing
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  • How this is anti-christian bias.
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  • We can cite the department of justice
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  • And it gives even more tools for us
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  • To use when these violations are happening.
  • 00:26:04.491 --> 00:26:07.093
  • So this is a big win and it came out this morning.
  • 00:26:07.093 --> 00:26:10.897
  • We didn't know that this was going to,
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  • Until late last night that this was even being released.
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  • We got a little heads up, but that's it.
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  • And here we are being able to talk about this big win
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  • For everyone in the country.
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  • (light-hearted music)
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